🔱┃weapons-combat

[final escarp]

had to cut it into two videos

[solar maple]

Uh is it normal for you not to clash a polesword horizontal?

I hit it with a katana vertical attack

Both normal attacks… they didn’t blue armor either

but for some reason it kept hitting me instead of clashing

[flat onyx]

How is your grapple so high

[merry burrow]

Oh so it isnt uppercut then grapple as im dropping?

Oo

[compact island]

It depends on the FPS, the higher it is the fastest you move/cancel so you get bigger juggles

[compact island]

are you running above 80fps?

[merry burrow]

yes

i run at 170

[compact island]

Then you should get it no problem, just make sure you buffer your inputs

Is Lunar[Agile] useful for something?

like how much more damage can you get with that dodge follow up instead of a normal counterstrike

[ancient tendon]

Yo guys what are the input for rmb dualblade to lmb katana that the bot still in mini stun bc i can only do lmb but i saw videos people just using rmb on dualblade

[undone anchor]

It's a crouch swap 👍

Just need to be precise since the vertical hit on dB/DH has a low stagger

[ancient tendon]

Is it work on bot as well or just on real player ?

[undone anchor]

both

on bots it has to be precise, on players you got more "time" depending on the ms difference

[final escarp]

it's just normal height of an uppercut

[final escarp]

yup, you try to cancel the animation or it takes too long for the combo to work

[flat onyx]

Feel like mine is lower

[undone anchor]

where is the clip? we can maybe try and see the problem togheter 👍

[outer chasm]

Does anyone have any videos or clear explanations for the infinite katana and grappling hook combo? I can't figure it out, everyone I meet in the game can magically do it and it seems like I stay in the air forever, but when I try, the enemy immediately falls to the ground or flies too low

[stray mason]

I believe that it was patched long ago and can no longer be done

[outer chasm]

so those who continue to do it are cheaters? I meet at least 2 per game c-c

[stray mason]

There are other kinds of methods to do it, but it is not infinite like it used to be

But as i remember it can no longer be done anymore

[outer chasm]

yes I mean the current ones, the ones available now, I can't make them that's why I was asking how

[stray mason]

Just like any other katana/grapple combo

Just learning timmings

[outer chasm]

ehhh, I don't know how to do it 😂

[stray mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hreP7HhPH4M

[outer chasm]

oh so it can't be done twice?

I mean the ones I see don't let you touch the ground at least twice that combo

[stray mason]

It can be done, but not infinite as you mentioned, that infinite was patched

[outer chasm]

ok it's better if the infinite one can't be done anymore, I was interested in the double one

thanks for that video by the way 🙏

[stray mason]

[wary escarp]

You also need a lot of FPS and good ping so...

[outer chasm]

yes, in fact .. I'm a "returned" player.. and I understood why I had abandoned naraka, sometimes I forget. I only find players with Japanese names who attack at the speed of light, while they do 3 attacks I maybe do 1, and nothing I think I'll give up again 😂 👍

[wary escarp]

That sounds a bit too much tbh, the only way I achieve that different is either having very low fps or dealing with cheater

[outer chasm]

probably the second one, my fps are quite good actually but in every single player game I get to the final and punctually in the final I find the player with the super fast Japanese name who kills me with two attacks, in short I don't expect to win but neither to have the same end in all the games, it's frustrating... then I don't understand why always from the Japanese or from the players with the Japanese name xDD

[undone anchor]

Heavenstep with katana got patched out of the game 👍👍

[final escarp]

@outer chasm I think the only infinites that are still possible all rely on abilities like Tarka ult or are ToD with Takeda or Lyam ult

[flat onyx]

Justina v1

It’s also Tod I think

[final escarp]

yes

I just wanted to name some examples, Yoto can also ToD with her F I think

I think Valda can also tod

[flat onyx]

Yoto can? Wow didn’t know that

[final escarp]

she can repeatedly throw you into her spinning blade but it's pretty hard. I've only seen it in videos, never in person

https://youtu.be/XdilfnDoYKM?si=8CwYxtzB6DZ1iQU2

old video but I think sb told me around Christmas it's still possible

[undone anchor]

In short nearly all heroes can Tod if they have a skill or ult that provides stagger or juggle extensions 👍

But with weapons alone and no heroes skills to support and extend the combo, it's not possible at the moment to perform a Tod

[final escarp]

exactly

[outer chasm]

yes I understood that, I'm sorry that in addition to removing the eternal katana function they can't completely eliminate cheaters or at least limit the extreme attack speed that many have, the game would be more feasible for everyone, but it's okay anyway, thanks for the reply ^^

[undone anchor]

extreme attack speed?

cheaters number are relatively low i would say 🤔

but then again it's not my expertise nor my camp of competence 👍 ; devs are doing what they can in order to control those issues, as you can see in #1316954009785077860 , where they weekly upload some of the work they are doing in order to give us a better gaming experience

the game is indeed very technical, and not exactly beginner friendly, i can definitely agree on that, but once you get things going it will be much more fun 👍 (katana heavenstep got removed because in recent times starting infinites was insanely easy, so it was disrupting the overall gaming experience for a lot of people 👍 i personally thing it was a good thing)

that aside, if you have any questions on combos and such, feel free to ping me, ill help as i can

[outer chasm]

I think I'm unlucky then x-x
Actually I used to play a few years ago, I always managed to get into the ranked games.. in the last year I struggled a lot, I think the game has gone too far, but what's strange to me is that really.. it's absurd.. in the ranked games players with Japanese names always win o-O my last 10 games have been like this, what's happening? xD

anyway thank you for your availability, I will try to learn something but if I can't attack so quickly I doubt it will be of any use :)

[undone anchor]

there was an update on the netcode , that modified juggles 👍

fps are now more important than ever

and also, that attack speed u keep mentioning it's usually just apparent and connected to timing 👍 , i'm sure you will get it no problem 👍

[outer chasm]

let's hope so, I will continue to do some tests, but in reality a week ago I didn't have these problems, these problems have come in these last few days.. I would be sorry to abandon Naraka again in the end, because I always liked it

[undone anchor]

if i may ask, what are your average ms and fps?

[outer chasm]

59-60 fps, ms idk 🧐

[undone anchor]

60 fps is a bit low to play comfortably🤔

u playing on lowest settings?

[outer chasm]

I had set max frame rate 60 for settings, medium high graphics game

however the game doesn't give me any lag problems, in fact it's quite fluid

[meager trail]

you would never want to cap your fps in naraka

[outer chasm]

I put 120 now to see if the situation changes

[meager trail]

just leave it uncapped

unless you're experiencing screentearing

[outer chasm]

ok I'll play a game to try thank u ^^

[viscid kelp]

It's joever

age of bots is imminent

[outer chasm]

I just finished a game, it's true it's faster with unlimited fps.. however it ended like the other games

as you can see I'm not lying, I always find the player with the Japanese name in the final who does absurd things, always XD

Japanese, Chinese, korean I don't know, but that's it

[meager trail]

yeah fair matchmaking is non-exist in naraka due to the lack of player

just gotta deal with it that's all we could do for now

[meager trail]

https://tenor.com/view/sxv-wtf-gif-23560064

[undone anchor]

Chinese 👍👍, but don't worry about it; it's not that Chinese name = strong 👍👍👍 there are just a lot

And yeah, FPS affects slightly your attack animation; best recommendation would be to always keep them uncapped

With 120 FPS the whole combo world is open for you

[outer chasm]

again, they are insane

yes it's faster if I don't find these monsters it's ok, but lately I always find them 😭

well I think I give up on this way of playing, I don't think there is any other way

[undone anchor]

What way?

[outer chasm]

give up to the Chinese player xD I find out they are Chinese always after they kill me, so far 3 games today and 3 games won by them, they are insane (I was being ironic)

[undone anchor]

Noted

In case, feel free to send a clip of you playing, so maybe we can try and work togheter to help you improve 👍

[outer chasm]

we just won a game (usually we play in 2), but maybe they were all bots.. it was 20 players crowded in one spot XD but yes if it happens to me ,thank you for your availability ^^

[undone anchor]

Sure 👍👍, always happy to help when I can

[outer chasm]

yay ^^ thank u! just one question, I'm playing ranked.. are bots there too right? now I'm platinum

I mean...are there more bots than players?

[naive plaza]

Once you’re above gold you’ll find more players in your lobby but plat can be touch or go. They try to populate the lobbies with easier bots so new players don’t feel as discouraged fighting high ranked players

[rotund solstice]

How big of a damage boost is blue to purple?

If im very comfortable on polesword, would it be worth to use like purple nunchucks i find instead eventhough i dont really use that weapon?

[flat onyx]

God, I was not tripping

I told you guys

I saw this happen in game

Now I better learn some Tod combos to be safe

[meager trail]

HAHAHAHA

[undone anchor]

I got Ur back, what hero?

[undone anchor]

Depends on the weapon 🤔

If you want specific numbers best way to see them is equipping the weapon of the rarity u need and hit the bot, then compare

[meager trail]

20%

[flat onyx]

Well I don’t think Akos has any

[undone anchor]

He does have them 🤔

Extends with f2 🤔👍

[flat onyx]

Oh real?

[undone anchor]

Maybe not 100% Tod, but for sure close to it 🤔

[flat onyx]

Well guess I don’t need to try out new heroes

[undone anchor]

Not an Akos player myself, but I got some friends that maybe can help 👍

[flat onyx]

But Lyam also seems cool

[undone anchor]

He does have a ton

He is my second main 👍😂

[flat onyx]

Would be lovely

[undone anchor]

👍👍

I'll ask as soon as I get home then 👍

[flat onyx]

im cooked

i died

[torpid trellis]

so is it normal that a katana horizontal sets up a 2x dual halberds vertical or is the game shitting itself and i got scammed out of being able to dodge after i got hit with the katana and once with halberds?

[flat onyx]

second thing prob

[unreal ferry]

why

oh

[compact island]

he hacking man, that didnt happen

[compact island]

each tier is +20% on base, base being grey, so from blue to purple is a lil bit less than 17% boost(16.666666666666666666666666~%tobemoreprecise)

if you really cannot do anything with the other weapon you might keep your blue, imo

[compact island]

can you give me some guidance on that aspect with Tessa and Lyam

I believe Tessa is not a combo char, but I saw very sick stuff with Lyam, no idea which stuff is still possible and which isnt. since those were old videos, and since I cannot know the FPS of the person in the video I just cannot be sure of anything I see

[undone anchor]

So, Tessa is indeed not a combo character, you can do some soft true or untrue followups on the ult, but they don't really count towards a Tod combi

Combo*

Lyam on the other hand is made to combo overall; his f2 is a complete rest of the stagger meter and a soft combo breaker; you would usually not play it, but if you are looking for Tod combos specifically I would highly recommend it (even if it's overall worse than the combo breaker)

As for the ult, both of them can be abused to Tod someone

Those with v1 are relatively easy; start a combo, ult when they are in the air, catch them with the f and cancel that with a light attack as soon as you teleport; the stagger meter will be fully reset after the stasys, so you can combo from the start, rinse and repeat

Only thing to keep in mind is when you can hit them again with the ult for the followup, since the stasys has a cool down

V2 is a bit more complex, but all of the video you can find on Lyam are post netcode update, since he got released after; this means that those combo are still feasible

Only ones you should consider dead are ones that grapple on katana after a slide uppercut, or fan infinites 👍

I can send you tomorrow a few video ideas of what you can easily do on Lyam on 100 fps all the way down to 75-85 (75 is hard to confirm, but still feasible) ; it's now time for me to head to sleep 😂😴, gn!

(sry for the super long messages)

[compact island]

Nah, man sorry for keeping you awake, Ill wait till you wake up, have a good night

[undone anchor]

No worries, I saw Ur message right before going to sleep 😂😂😂, I just finished writing my last work for the semester 😂😂

[rotund solstice]

Do you guys know any good polesword combos? I know lmb then J.rmb is one that gets used but are there ones that are a bit better? Possibly even bow/musket comboable

I play ziping yin in 3s and like to run polesword since it just seems good as I’m usually supporting my teammates or cleaving, but sometimes I get in 1v1 and find myself having to get too many catches or feeling like a lack of combo

Could be personal skill/knowledge problem, could be a loadout problem not sure where to focus my efforts for improving in this regard

[compact island]

I am still not very experienced, but as far as I know polesword only has 1-2 stuff

is more of a neutral heavy weapon

poke them to death

[wary escarp]

Not really, 20% is the number using white weapon as base

so from blue to purple is like 16%-ish

[wary escarp]

Well, if you are more comfortable with Polesword, use it or not is up to your reference. You can keep using your comfort weapon to be safe, but at the same time you can try out other weapons to get better at them too. My recommendation is to learn the basic of every weapon, know how to use most of them and having at least one comfort weapon to fall back in.

[wary escarp]

Polesword is not a combo weapon so unless combine with abilities, you cannot really combo with it unless you hit very specific attack. On the matter of combine with abilities, most of them are not worth it compare to other weapon unless you are playing as Tarka.

[wary escarp]

No

With purple GS + 4 attack sj (aerial rend included) + max despacito + food only deal barely enough damage to kill, not straight up kill

[compact island]

someone did a setup that did kill back when he asked

he said it was very unlikely to get it, but it was possible

[wary escarp]

Oh cool, I was not noticed

[flat onyx]

cant do double uppercut

i eitehr dont uppper or very late

[undone anchor]

try aiming a bith further away

[flat onyx]

how much further we talking?

like spear grapple far?

[undone anchor]

this far 👍

try adjusting based on your needs 👍

it's not universal in my experience, it has some leniency

also i reckon that you are a bit slow on the uppercut animation 👍

[flat onyx]

SHit it worked

thx

still inconsistent though

[undone anchor]

it will take a bit of time

[flat onyx]

Yerterday I was getting a Tessa to very low hp

I was full and I lost neutral once

And the downhill jump spam killed me

…

[compact island]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-i-have-the-high-ground-gif-4939538

[undone anchor]

here are some of the examples i was referring to yesterday 👍

[undone anchor]

yeah, power of high fps 😆

[compact island]

The power of the high ground, you mean

[undone anchor]

😆

[compact island]

does this work without the high ground?

or do I have to go the slope

can I download this?

[undone anchor]

it works on flat ground

[compact island]

oh yes I can

[undone anchor]

i just needed more space than there was in the training room 😆

those two are basic tod u can do with lyam 👍

[compact island]

Thanks, Ill try em tomorrow see how it goes

the double grapple, I have been trying to do, but the camera behaves pretty weird for me

[undone anchor]

sure 👍

[compact island]

like it goes 180

[undone anchor]

double uppercut?

[compact island]

I think is because im in a controller

no, double uppercut I can do

but double grapple the second one, camera goes crazy

[undone anchor]

u mean on LS then

it's not needed; u can also do a standard double uppercut into aH for the juggles

[compact island]

so I would do the skill after 1 aH

[undone anchor]

yep

or 2 if you can, since it's more consistent

but the second one is fps dependant; as long as the person does not reach the ground it's fine

[compact island]

yeah with 120, I can only do 1 before enemy touching ground

I can hit the second one before enemy dodges

but is already in the ground

[undone anchor]

do only one then 👍

[hushed rivet]

does anyone have any weapons guides for beginners, all the guides ive seen use too complex combos and dont explain terminology

[flat onyx]

@sly ore

Check him out

He has good guides

[hushed rivet]

thankk youu

[rotund solstice]

besides slide jump horizontal for greatsword/polesword, what other mobility options are there i should be using? focus dashing with like fan for example is super smooth but i dont know if there is a way to focus dash with those weapons or just generally how to increase my movement capabilities while using it (polesword more specifically)

[meager trail]

well you can always focus dashing with ps

and actually on fan you wanna do normal attack dashing not focus dashing

it's further

[rotund solstice]

ah yeah, fans dash then vertical is crazy good

[meager trail]

yeah, fistblade v dash, ls h dash, fan/dagger can use either h or v dash, the rest are focus dashing

[jade gull]

Weird question is there a difference between stagger and stun in weapon terms?

[meager trail]

there is, people just misused the term ''stun''

technically speaking there are no weapon attack that stun the target

[jade gull]

Staff¿

Kinda

[meager trail]

nah they're all stagger

some special souljades like will form hook got their unique ''suppress'' effect

but other than that they're all stagger

stun must be something like viper v

where you will standing still at one place doesn't matters what happens, and are unable to do anything even using skills that are labelled ''can be use under attack''

[final escarp]

wdym with fan focus dashing? 0.9 horizontal?

[rotund solstice]

on keyboard
rmb > shift > rmb > shift > rmb

seems insane on fan for movement, could be something better for it though idk

[echo gyro]

Best and worst weapons?

[rotund solstice]

Hypothetical scenario question for fun for you all:

You are a naraka team captain, you are in some special event where you get to pick everything for your team

It’s time to pick for your position 3/support player, in an ideal world that is totally your preference, what character is your support player on and what weapon loadout do you want them to have? They will be proficient with anything you pick and the loot is guarenteed

TL;DR if you could pick your support players hero and loadout in an ideal world for your team, what you pickin?

[wary escarp]

I don't have a best weapons since all of them are viable, but worst probably Greatsword

[compact island]

why?

since their H dash atks got equalized

why is GS still worse?

never got that

[wary escarp]

Low mobility, really slow animation that sometimes can get punished if opponent dodge, most of its attack cannot be cancel or change direction which causing an whiff attack being a death sentence.

[compact island]

Ohh, did not know it had more delay than PS

[wary escarp]

Most of its focus can be countered easily if whiff, while PS has a privilege of just change the direction of it attack forcefully while maintain a decent mobility with running blue focus

[compact island]

should have more damage then, not equal

[wary escarp]

Well, most of its focus deal more damage than PS

[compact island]

but their normals is same right? and still more delay

[cinder thorn]

polesword just has better mixup potential i find it a lot harder to fight compared to gs

[echo gyro]

Oh

[charred cobalt]

spear is good weapon( not to slow animation like greatsword) have mid range attack n repeat crowbow for secondary weapon also have 30 graphook for run 😁

[undone anchor]

spear is pretty strong, yeah 👍

[rain yew]

learning grapple combo first before 211 really mess up my learning of 211

[undone anchor]

how so 🤔

211 is a mid-advanced combo, but at the same time, inputs are really different from the easy grapple combo 🤔

[rain yew]

my brain is so used of grapple combo, it cannot easily learn 211

like after uppercut my brain is inputting both grapple and sheath

and if my brain wont input grapple, it'll forgot shift because the combo my brain is so used don't have shift

[undone anchor]

that's an issue in any moment when learning 211

the dash is the hard part

[rain yew]

i've been learning for a few days now(6 days to be exact) and my brain still can't do it correctly

[sly ore]

sounds like you need a support in your life

or someone to support XD

[rotund solstice]

Hehe the opposite, I’m the support main, but trying to get ideas from more experienced players on their preferences and expectations for people in that role when it comes to more advanced play, wanting to streamline my learning efforts is all

Like no reason for me to go around and spend a bunch of time learning Liam ToDs when I’m not really gonna play him or solos lol extreme example sure but I know some weapons are more suited to that role and character pool

This is my first season, I’m about to get out of plat and the skill gap is real. Feels like apex where the learning curve is so steep but the expected skill level at certain ranks is quite high compared to other games

I am doing really well I think, but I notice if I’m wanting to improve more I need to focus my practice

[austere pewter]

Hello Guys,
Could you please help me?
I am trying to find the combo for polesword, which sumon the horse! I would like to use it too. On pc!
I will be very thankful!

[flat onyx]

It’s a souljade

Overcomer

[final escarp]

I'm not a pro player but more or less also a support main - from what I know either feria with bow/musket + fanor ziping with dagger/fan + crossbow. Both with jades like advanced heal, group heal, any supportive jades and the rest jades that help with dealing dmg while staying safe, so slow shot for musket or the toxic bolts for crossbow

[rotund solstice]

ah okay, dagger ziping seems a little odd, could you tell me more about it? dont know much about the weapon and its niches other than its fast af for running/movement

[final escarp]

fan and dagger are pretty similiar in a sense that they have fast scalerushes and both are not so risky at neutral. A support shouldn't aim to win neutral but rather just not lose it, so not to get caught in a combo. Fan is better with a little more distance while dagger wants to get close and then out again.

both are great, fan is probably better bc it has better focus atks for teamfights but with jades like the better quickdash vertical dagger is also one of the best

Generally Ziping is the most mobile support while Feria likes to stay in the air with some distance and aim her F

Cyra and Kurumi are also great supports, I just don't rly like either of them that much personally

[rotund solstice]

ok, ive seen fan as a pretty common denominator so ill def put practice into that
also could you elaborate further on ziping being the most mobile? i thought she was the least lol the other supports (feria, cyra, kurumi, wuchen) all have mobility options and ziping has none? i only ask for more clarification since i play ziping the most by far at the moment and wonder if im doing anything wrong lol
how do you stay alive as the support? as im fighting these better teams, i notice im being targeted first and dogpiled with every ult possible in teamfights lol

[rotund solstice]

i appreciate your input and discussion btw 🙂

[final escarp]

• feria you got the mech that kind of makes you stationary usually not feria herself as she is not riding it but she usually is not compatible with rly mobile teams
• kurumi has her circle that requieres her team to stay inside it to heal them unlike ziping
• wuchen can be mobile but he isn't a healer so...different roles as support anyway
• cyra idk much about honestly but Ziping rly has zero limiting factors and her F gives her a free dash with gold focus which makes her a little more mobile

Like look at Zai Matari and a supporter (not the most meta team atm anymore but a good example). They want to hard engage with Zai's comets and chase the enemies. None of the other supports can do as much as Ziping while running after the enemies

[sly ore]

cyra is not a support

[rotund solstice]

if cyra isnt a support, what makes Feria a support? just the silence and mech being like a psuedo get out of jail free card for teammates on low hp?

on the topic of support, are we talking actual 'support' or we talking role 3 in general?

i suppose this topic would be better suited in the character-guides section

[charred cobalt]

some people like greatsword but they have slow animation but high damage, but before u attack enemy u will got attack first 😤

[charred cobalt]

yah i aggre with u my main is cyra she have good stun skill n good ultimate range , also have good skin n white armpit 🤤

i need bikini on this game 😤

[wise coral]

Hey
Is greatsword good weapon to focus for pvp end game or I should change my training ?

[compact island]

Vang, just said, is probably the worst weapon at the moment

[wise coral]

Ok sadly then I should learn something Else :/

[compact island]

You can hardly stick to one weapon anyways, also if you are just starting, it does not really matter, just pick the one you like most

but yeah try differnt weapons, Id say pick at least 2~3 to fool around at least

[wise coral]

Yeah I like to play greatsword for the moment and dual for mobility when target is moving so let’s see

Ty

[compact island]

https://tenor.com/view/sherlock-benedict-cumberbatch-hat-tip-greetings-smile-gif-4268618

[wise coral]

Playing yoto hime but thinking to go Zai I don’t know I’m thinking with skins not with gameplay 😂

[compact island]

eau?

[charred cobalt]

btter spear or another mid range melee weapon , greatsword only for finishing when enemy on air

for duel im always lose 😤

even im use epic greatsword

need this weapon on naraka 👍👀

[wise coral]

Zai sry my phone did sh it

[wise coral]

Yeah the think I understood is that people are unarming me too easy when I’m charging something on greatsword . To easy to anticipate no ?

[compact island]

zai is kinda dumb atm, her ult is too strong, you ll get wins with it, but try also to learn your weapons and do not rely on pressing ult to win all the time

so you can actually learn the game

[wise coral]

Yeah that’s the goal of course , but I’m looking for the skins I wana plya first

It’s all about skins not skills

[compact island]

haha

thats fine

I also go for looks mostly, not exactly skins but similar case

[wise coral]

I think I’m gonna go for maybe weapons that allow good movement like dual sword i like it

Look like this game need good mobility

[compact island]

GS have very good mobility, is just very unsafe

maybe try polesword?

very similar to greatsword but less unsafe

[undone anchor]

Learning the idea of holding checking might do wonders to help with that 🤔👍

[rotund solstice]

i hate fighting zai..but i also main ziping atm soo yeah

literally she presses ult and i die, fights feel so unwinable vs her if she has ult, at least around the solar level

[compact island]

haha, yeah Im also support in duos, and I always just die to wild zai popping ult

In solos right now is all about the justinas, tho

[rotund solstice]

yeah, she just has too easy of a time skipping neutral

[wise coral]

Polesword is like the mushindo

Not the spear

[flat onyx]

Best trios weapon

[wise coral]

Yeah ok @compact island , but gs skin way better 😂 , I will try this one then ty

[wary escarp]

From what I know, Cyra healing is no longer the main focus, she just ditching out damage which makes she is more of dps type. While V2 Feria can provided teammates with a safe option to get out of combat to heal by dropping her beacon on teammate that is in danger and let them jump in.

[wary escarp]

Mobility wise, fistblades, fan and dagger are the most mobility focus in this game. However getting good at this game is know how to move effectively with every weapon.

Also not recommending fistblades, fan or dagger as your beginning weapon. They are not hard once you know how to use them. The problem is they have something other weapons don't and you will pick up bad habit using them if you start with them.

[compact island]

Hey, man. Talk for yourself, when I go duos, I go full magical girl Kurumi, pulling this bad boy right here

[wise coral]

Oh sjit i did not saw that

How get it ? Just money ?

[compact island]

Gold, I got it on sale a couple of events ago

not sure what is the default price

[wise coral]

Ok ty

[sly ore]

Feria backlines, cyra frontlines

Id encourage to familiarize yourself with the existing theory before crafting your own

I understand that may be hard to do for a new player since many things aren't well documented, but you can hang out on streams or generally ask more questions and listen

Treating cyra as a support is a little out there considering she's often paired with kurumi (CN) or Feria (EU), who are way more supporty than cyra could ever be

[rotund solstice]

Thats why i was asking for clarification, so that i could understand why one is considered and the other is not, i had previously read or seen somewhere about cyra being that support position/role. it made sense at the time because she technically does make hp bars go up, so hearing Feria was a support was confusing since she isnt a 'healer', same with wuchen, his f1 heals shields and has a team-wide utility v2, so that made sense as well, but feria didnt really make sense in the same way as the others

[sly ore]

Wuchen doesn't run v2 in trios though

Not if he's in a support role

Need his v1 for a reset

[sly ore]

About Feria, I've got a Feria video on my channel with executions, this can give you an idea of how backlining and ranged support works

But you probably watched it already

She basically skywalks, f3s, drops mech and blue falls or scalerushes all the time

[undone anchor]

Cyra has never had her focus on healing 👍👍; and yep, as you said she is currently used as a main dps

[wise coral]

Do u have screen of ur skins with this weapons Im seeing what’s best skin to choose the one I ll play and then put like 50€ to get it 😄

[compact island]

Not sure I get what you mean

You want the skins I use for each weapon?

[wise coral]

No no im looking the good outfit on the good character than goes well with this weapon

[compact island]

oh for the character, yeah for that I use one that is no longer available

forgot the name, Ill let you know once I get in

is not very magical girlish, if that is what you expect, is more Miko like

[wise coral]

Yeah I need something like that , but yeah good skins are note longer available for what I want …

Like summers outfit for Tarka étc

[compact island]

Ame no uzume, and the new event actually give you a chance to get it

[wise coral]

Just woke up il connecting rn

[compact island]

retro bazaar

[wise coral]

Ok bro ty I’m gonna check what we have , hope To find a girly street girl skin haha

[compact island]

street girl? like prostitute?

https://tenor.com/view/tom-delonge-blink182-wtf-meme-what-the-heck-first-date-gif-25383351

I thought you were looking for cute stuff

[wise coral]

Haha yeah 😂

How I can do fast token , the one u have 90 000 I don’t know the name in English

@compact island

I have the season pass is there an other way to grind faster ?

[compact island]

Season pass is the fastest way as far as I know

there are others way to get silk in the store, like you can buy a box with Tae, once

and the guild thing too

[wise coral]

Ok i should join guild then too

Ty

[compact island]

rotational events always have some silk too

[wise coral]

I wana buy the Ji 98 000 red skin

[compact island]

once you complete the battle pass you will have enough for sure

[wise coral]

Ok ok ty I’m gonna try to invest time lol games takes time hehe

I can lvl up pass with pve or it’s only in battle royal

[compact island]

PVE is a different battle pass

but yes some task do pass over

like do certain damage or defeats with certain weapons

[wise coral]

Ok i ll stick on pvp I don’t like pve so no matter

Just the things I don’t get is , passive a useful in battle royal or we don’t care ?

[compact island]

some task are easier in PVE tho, then again you do not have to "Grind" it if you do not want to, just doing the dailies will get you overboard by the time is over

[compact island]

?

[wise coral]

You know when u lvl up u have passiv point that up ur rage , stamina étc

[compact island]

ah yes those are useful

there is a video pinged here that explains them

[wise coral]

Oh ok i should check some videos build then

Coz I just lvl d up all the rage branch first lol

[compact island]

is not here is in characters I think

[wise coral]

Ok i ll check all this ty

[compact island]

yeah rage is the IDK what im doing so Im putting this here

is good

rage is one of the most important one for most things

[wise coral]

Any one have a good video on how to infinite combo on katana plz ? With controller the one I found doesn’t work

[undone anchor]

only with katana and no abilities?

if you are talking about heavenstep it got patched out

there are no weapons currently that can do an infinite without the support of skills from heroes

aside LS, but it requires an insane amount of fps and precision, so not worth overall

[wise coral]

Yeah ok i see

Thank you

[undone anchor]

npnp

[viscid kelp]

Interesting character

[compact island]

https://tenor.com/view/steam-uninstal-halo-game-app-gif-25775026

[flat onyx]

Looks like it’s time to uninstall

[wise coral]

Do u think she s able to do some thing like this in duos/trios ?

[flat onyx]

No

Too much chaos and easy to interrupt

[undone anchor]

https://youtu.be/v8yu9iFeO-Y?si=-9ROgrIxpLsgVEZo&t=231

u might like this one 😆

[undone anchor]

nah, meta is prolly going to be v1 overall

v2 is good for combos, but can get dodged and interrupted pretty easily by other people

for solos it's a force to be reckoned with tho

[viscid kelp]

I've never watched any video on this game or any character of it tbh

I just play and figure it out on my own

I'm too lazy to learn from vids

[undone anchor]

same usually 😆

i just saw it when a friend of mine linked it 😆

there are some things i wish i never saw 😆

i found out you can do a nice slide uppercuts setup with the ult tho; posted it earlier this morning the lannie discussion channel 👍

she's got nice potential

[wise coral]

Ha yeah I see I thought same
Now I’m training tarka with gs/polesword i like it so much but tarka hard to master but I love the fact that I have to train a lot

[undone anchor]

enjoy!

[neat hound]

aint no way u finally got high fps

[viscid kelp]

Yes indeed

I am finally unchained

[undone anchor]

Be ready everyone, soon we'll see "takao" as top 1 player in all servers and in all modes 🤔, this is going to get dangerous really fast

[thick umbra]

i dont mind the infinites but her having purple focus on top of invis + free stam dodge is stupid

we have like 5 characters in meta that already TOD you already so a 3k tod has no difference from 5k tod tbh

[undone anchor]

5k on golden weapon means that it can be done on a blue one aswell

plus shes not that easy as it might seem 🤔

[neat hound]

maybe use combo breaker

running around w/o a combo breaker is crazy work to me

[undone anchor]

Always been doing that; it's risky, but I'm accustomed to it

Bad move overall tho, yeah 🤔😂

[jade gull]

Leave me and my flying carpet smash alone

[dim hill]

That new girl looks so fun

I recently got smacked out of my Valda Cui Ult by her Ult and laughed pretty hard. Up until she whooped me

[inland coyote]

Hi all looking for someone that an explain me movement,combat mechanichs,heros and help me improve!

[flat onyx]

@sly ore

Watch his videos

He’s super

[ionic bluff]

guys

been a while

im back to the game

no one will remember me bc i change names a lot but i need a lil input/help

because im really inconsistent on the longsword carousel combo and floating with katana

is there anything particular i have to look out for?

[undone anchor]

First of all, how many FPS are you playing on?

[ionic bluff]

120

[neat hound]

prime tj level threat

[undone anchor]

strict timing then

[ionic bluff]

alrighty

[undone anchor]

and try playing around with positiuon aswell

would need to see a clip to help you more in detail, but for sure those are things to consider

[ionic bluff]

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/jy4h9AdEbzllp3pbD?invite=cr-MSxDbUIsMTQ5NzU3NTAs

inconsistent

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/jy4hv9JlWeeVOWGA1?invite=cr-MSxLTk4sMTQ5NzU3NTAs

[wary escarp]

My pc will never be able to reach this amount of fps

Anyway, good luck

[undone anchor]

This one you are late with the horizontal

Can be performed earlier

[undone anchor]

Here you got good grapple the first one, second one bad bump, third one, bad grapple positioning

[ionic bluff]

thanks for help :D

[undone anchor]

Np

Did it work?

[timber geyser]

https://youtu.be/j9-1KN6qN4o?si=diBKCl3hvu9rYood&t=129

[onyx loom]

🎉 | frezz. leveled up!
ℹ | Level up messages can be disabled for the guild with owo level disabletext

[timber geyser]

Can anybody tell me what im doing wrong?

besides the crouch cancel

unless the crouch cancel makes it work.

[meager trail]

you can't hit this on combo bot combat mode

[timber geyser]

but u can in real game?

[meager trail]

yeah

real ppl can't dodge out of this

same with db rmb follow up after vertical blue

[ionic bluff]

yea im getting more consistent thx

but i dont understand how to follow up the carousel with a grapple

[undone anchor]

It's really precise; id say that under 200 FPS it's either frame perfect or not doable

[ionic bluff]

[smoky crest]

like I need a 200hz display or just 200fps

[undone anchor]

200 in game fps

And precise inputs

[smoky crest]

i do have a wooting so I guess that means I have to get good. granted the wireless mouse probably doesn't help

[ionic bluff]

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/jyBUIK31YOyCCDhkK?invite=cr-MSxRWnAsMTQ5NzU3NTAs

i tried

first hour of trying this combo

[brave wave]

Hi yalls, does anyone know how to dodge and charge the fistblade with controller?

[compact island]

Is the same with every input device, hold atk then dodge and release

[wary escarp]

Tap dodge to be specific

[undone anchor]

Well done!

[merry burrow]

are there any combos with cyra?

[undone anchor]

Yes, but inconsistent

They are mostly a flex

F2 can restand if timed correctly

[ionic bluff]

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/jyX5eN66P4NNhFQNU?invite=cr-MSxGRGcsMTQ5NzU3NTAs

this is soft true right

also how do people gunswap so fast

like from 1 to 2 to 1 in an instant

[meager trail]

more like completely untrue from the part that you hit the target on the ground with a rmb then follow with ur F

[ionic bluff]

[meager trail]

crouch swap

or dash swap

[ionic bluff]

ill look into that

[meager trail]

crouch is better though cuz it consume no stamina

[compact island]

https://tenor.com/view/excuse-me-blank-stare-really-seriously-eye-roll-gif-17902358

[meager trail]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lick-conk-conky-kitty-gif-18021368

[sly ore]

i'll never understand yoto mains greeding for combos XD

it's like the most rare species that should be extinct since 2022

[undone anchor]

The combos look cool 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️

[rain yew]

did something change about stamina? I feel like i am usig more stamina per dodges

or i'm not restoring stamina like before?

[undone anchor]

Compared to when?

[rain yew]

compared to last month i last played, not really playing that much

[undone anchor]

Nop, no changes there

Maybe you changed your glyphs?

[rain yew]

still the same glyph

[undone anchor]

Then there should be no changes

[rain yew]

or maybe i'm just too nuub? not playing for more than 2 weeks decayed my skills so much

[undone anchor]

Yeah, that's definitely a thing that happens

I got the same problem when I swap for a few weeks on a game that allows for constant dodging 🤔😂

[neat hound]

i came back on naraka after a month or so of rivals and i became so ass

so i just uninstalled naraka

[undone anchor]

Welcome back

[undone anchor]

.... Where the commitment....

[neat hound]

im dedicated to rivals now

i wont be back until i get my clank blades

[undone anchor]

Fair

[ionic bluff]

exactly

[ionic bluff]

git yoinked btw

[dim abyss]

https://youtu.be/_BEUf7AWJFA

this is how u swap

[rotund solstice]

I kinda get it from watching but not really, I don’t understand the language

Any way you could translate the important bit?

I understand you can cancel the swap animation from jumping or crouching, is that what is going on here?

Some of the side by side demonstrations it’s hard to tell outright what one is what and the timings

[dim abyss]

turn on subtitles lol

it's translated

@rotund solstice

[rotund solstice]

Oh dang, I’ll do that then

Yup subtitles did the trick thanks

[sly ore]

Not again

[ionic bluff]

aye thanks

is there a general chat?

because there is a guy that just uploaded a vid about naraka

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpHq_hGf2HA

he gave it the rating ''uninstalling''

[dim abyss]

#💬┃general-chat

ranton the goat

[ionic bluff]

thx

[undone anchor]

#💬┃general-chat

[mild void]

Could anyone explain how to properly do staff uppercut-dash left-swap into GS/PS attack?
I just can't dash while am in the air for some reason or even if I manage to dash and swap weapon, I then can't manage to hit the opponent with GS/PS

[undone anchor]

you need to preinput the swap weapon during the uppercut (timing is somewhat precise, but also forgiving)

right when you swap, you can dash

[mild void]

Right, so I get to swap before dashing you mean?

Reported
Scam website steaRm

[wispy flax]

https://youtu.be/lcq1SwbXAX4?si=dXGMVkzzdp83EH02
Maybe that can help u

[undone anchor]

yep

after a jump, air attack or swap animation done in the air, you can still do a dash

[mild void]

Ohh yeh Treygo my fav
Thanks a lot guys. I have so many naraka vids saved on youtube and cause I progressed a lot since the time I was saving those, am just being lazy to rewatch all of it for finding exactly what I need

[wise coral]

is it even okay to use grapple glyphs for grapple combos lol

[meager trail]

grapple speed doesn't make grapple combo easier

[wise coral]

yeah, just tried that out

btw did they remove heaven step

or am i rusty

[meager trail]

yeah

[wise coral]

welp

wish i knew before you said that

spent around an hour trying to get it done

[undone anchor]

Yes, they did

Also infinite on fan is not there anymore

There are a lot of cool things tho still

[wise coral]

damn, any way to combo out kylian f2 then?

[undone anchor]

i got ur back

2 sec

[wise coral]

ty

[undone anchor]

https://youtu.be/XbeNyTEvq1Q?si=wRCuBrShdluqRLjs

here you go, i made a playlist with all kylin combos i could find

there are some more, but these are a nice starting point i guess 👍

[wise coral]

tysm

[undone anchor]

yw

[wary escarp]

Note on to this, for dagger and fan swapping, during quick dash, you can input crouch to stop it at any point, which will help you with weapon swap

[cunning raft]

[ionic bluff]

helo

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/jAAnFL74bZ581I0Rs?invite=cr-MSxpNlUsMTQ5NzU3NTAs

can someone tell me how i fix my off positioning

[undone anchor]

dash back instead of sideways

[viscid kelp]

Just don't use vertical

Vertical always hits a bit further forward, horizontal hits closer to your body

[ionic bluff]

alr thanks :D

[ionic bluff]

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/jADePJ4cLtMAWZAVa?invite=cr-MSw1YXEsMTQ5NzU3NTAs

bot moment or skill issue

[viscid kelp]

Hitting this on bot is quite hard yes

[crisp fox]

took me awhile to realise thats a katana

😭

[compact island]

It's clearly a ladle

[cyan falcon]

is it possible to confirm a blue in this?

its 2049 damage but a blue would be a nice addition.

[undone anchor]

Yes it is possible, careful that the start is untrue

U can do a normal uppercut after ACCA or ADA, but not a slide, too slow

[cyan falcon]

hm its a habit at this point.

[undone anchor]

U can do a single horizontal if you want a slide 👍👍👍

U got this 👍

[undone anchor]

As for improving the combo itself, after the f, u can still do a few sheathe slide uppercuts after each f, just in case

And technically I can end, after the last f, with a "godstep" instead of doing an air horizontal if you want the focus attack

But it's inconsistent overall, so it's up to you

End of the day, nice combo execution, well done 👍👍

[cyan falcon]

a wha?

Dooo not make my foxbrain work.

A god step huh

Ty tho

[undone anchor]

https://youtu.be/QGDvwPqbl3k?si=Fobfd-PW_1uj4j8b

Something like this, basically it's a carousel with katana

This is a really old clip, so don't trust it to much because it is from before the netcode update. It's a good reference tho

[cyan falcon]

Oo OHH

yea i know how to do that

[undone anchor]

(first part with the jump horizontal is not needed for the combo)

[undone anchor]

👍

[cyan falcon]

Ill try it later then

Ty

[undone anchor]

Ty for sharing instead 👍👍, always good to see people sharing their works

[cyan falcon]

Someones also suggesting 211 but really theres not a good controller guide

[undone anchor]

You doing all that on a controller!?!?!?

[cyan falcon]

Yis

[undone anchor]

You have now officially become my new favourite person. 😱

[cyan falcon]

[undone anchor]

Don't know anyone doing combos on a controller

[cyan falcon]

Well it has its drawbacks, i cant really aim too well yet

So the bow restand stuff is out of the question rn

I still practice them daily tho

One day i guess

[undone anchor]

Yep, and that's also why I'm so impressed

I wouldn't be able to, like at all

[cyan falcon]

Ahh i see ! Lol! Well eh. Dont be too impressed! Just a lil fox trying to learn

[undone anchor]

Good job so far!

[wise coral]

Any one on console ps5 and able to learn me katana combo coz I’m stuck by playin gs/ps and I want to learn combo infi kata

Im playing also takeda so I can extend with ult

[undone anchor]

There is no infinite for katana alone in naraka

And combo choices are limited in console

[wise coral]

What’s best options for me to play then

I know well actually I’m trying to mastering gs and polesword

Both combinaison works very well

Im using takeda cc also to get into big hit with gs

[forest oracle]

guys

does anybody know why parry with left and right click dont work for me

only quick counter works

[meager trail]

turn this on

[forest oracle]

thanks 🙂

[vernal mulch]

should i try and stick to one weapon I like and get really good at it or do I have to learn all weapons

idk where to put my focus on

[undone anchor]

U need to know basics for all weapons; ground work is the same for all of them, so it shouldn't be too hard once you get the basics down 🤔👍

(clearly there are differences in weapons,.. but the baseline way to fight is the same, hold checking, spacing,...)

As for basic combos , knowing a few for each weapon can be really helpful

Consider that since all drop rates are random, you are never 100% sure on what you are going to find in a match👍🤔

[wary escarp]

Recommend to have 2 or 3 weapons you comfort with but also know how to just pick up and use every weapon

When you dealing your opponent, you dealing with their tools, including both characters and weapons they have, so knowing what they capable of is really important.

[wise coral]

Is damage difference on Colors of the weapons , or it’s only durability

[undone anchor]

Dmg aswell

[wise coral]

Ok i wasn’t sure about this

Gs/polesword is good for takeda is it matching good with the ult or better to fast weapons ?

[undone anchor]

Takeda Is somewhat of a combo character, I'd avoid polesword and great sword on most characters tbf

Polesword can still do good, but great sword is generally meh 🤔

Then again some people are crazy good with it 🤷🏻‍♂️

[jade gull]

PSGS Neutral goes crazy once your good with them XD had a game last night I became a menace got Stromstride and max jug and atk ada most were dead before they knew what hit ‘em XD

[wary escarp]

Tarka laughing in the corner

[undone anchor]

He is indeed🤔😂😂

[ionic bluff]

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/jBqD82hhMvNND2XNu?invite=cr-MSw5OXAsMTQ5NzU3NTAs

see how i stayed calm?

when i hit that for the first time ever?

[undone anchor]

woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

well done!!!!!!

[ionic bluff]

thxx

[vast crown]

Any advice on getting good with fistblades?

Its the only weapon im not to good with.

[undone anchor]

work on your neutral 🤔

play around with the timing of release of your focus form, abuse the dashes

try to not repeat always the same pattern

u do that and you are chill

fistblades are some of the hardest weapons to guard efficently

[vast crown]

Thank you bro, Are you good with them? their kinda awkward for me lol

[undone anchor]

i would not describe myself as good in general, but i can defend my own with fistblades, yeah

spent my time practicing them and testing around

(i'm average as a player, good has to be good)

[vast crown]

yeah they seem really good in 1v1s but I dont like using them in duos or trios because they have like no AOE attacks, Compared to katana,fan. heng sword etc

[undone anchor]

they are good in pretty much all scenarios, except when you want to hit someone in the air 👍

1v1 is best, as for any weapon generally

but fistblades can pose a threat in 2v2, 1v2, 3v3 etc

it all comes down to your understanding of neutral and recognizing when you can release

[vast crown]

Yeah definetly not good for air atttacks lmao, but I guess it all comes down to the wielder and not the weapon.

[undone anchor]

difference is that, in 1v1 you look for combos, in all the other scenarios, you are looking for openings to release safely

put pressure on them, force them to parry or feel the need to parry, then punish accordingly

that's the general plan at least

[vast crown]

Yeah I'd say I'm decent at hold-checking but sometimes I do get impatient with parries.

[undone anchor]

it's mostly a matter of learning to wait or put pressure 👍

and also of getting the timing for the dashes; the fistblades dashes are what makes them so op

[merry burrow]

combusted while watching that btw

[wary escarp]

A small yet some what effective mix for fistblades is just simply between hold -> tap or hold dodge

A gameplan I have with fistblades is to play a bit defensive at the beginning with tap dodge, hold horizontal into tap dodge away from opponent into release on the opposite direction and change the purple focus direction back to them. Repeat a couple time and the get an urge to parry you after a dash, after which you can use hold dodge to guarantee a combo.

Tho this is just me, you have to try things out to know

[vast crown]

Thank you for this, Its the weapon I'm least comfortable with so any advice helps.

[eternal salmon]

anyone have some tips for longsword

[wise coral]

Would you recommand to play katana or long sword on takeda for some combo with ult ?

[onyx loom]

🎉 | Gojo_Saatoru leveled up!

[flat onyx]

Katana is prob easier

[wise coral]

Hmm ok ty bro I’ll try some game with tomorrow when I’m home

[vast crown]

I'd say katana, You can get more damage with the uppercut,ULT, than katana combo IMO.

[undone anchor]

U can do touch of death combo with both TBF, both are good combo weapons

[eternal salmon]

what's the best ranged weapon

[crude current]

ur mom generally musket, bow, and pistol. crossbow and cannon are decent for 3rd partying

[eternal salmon]

thanks

[elfin oar]

Can you give the best combo for akus hu

[undone anchor]

Bow 🤔

[undone anchor]

Best combo? Now that's hard, which weapon?

[flat onyx]

Should I go learn 211 on weapons

I’ve been running around doing only basic grapple and some character specific stuff

[meager trail]

defo worth it

[undone anchor]

it's definitely worth

[timber geyser]

Am i slow or is this not true combo on bot, but true in real gmae?

[flat onyx]

Is it me or is it a photo

[timber geyser]

no it works

for me atleast

[undone anchor]

slow

but second jump attack is somewhat fps dependant, so not always good

[timber geyser]

but

i hjave 300 fps

[wicked socket]

This is a real combo you just messed up did them too slow

[cinder thorn]

slow then

[meager trail]

don't think you could hit that jlmb x2 on combo bot

[compact island]

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/jy4h9AdEbzllp3pbD?invite=cr-MSxDbUIsMTQ5NzU3NTAs

is there a secret input in the middle of all this? I got it once, but after that my vertical after the hook keeps pushing the enemy very far away

[undone anchor]

nop, it's just really precise and tight

the enemy direction is also a matter in this specific combo (where they are looking / the direction they are facing)

[compact island]

oh, I did not know that was a factor

so that explains why sometimes I get it without doing anything different

so they have to be looking at me?

I guess that explains why the second time he pushed him too far

[undone anchor]

it depends

many factors

( finally managed after hours of trying and trying, so happy bout this!!!! )

[compact island]

why it failed the second time beside being back turned?

[undone anchor]

tbf i couldnt completely tell you; i'm not proficient enough in the carousel to know every exact position; what i can tell you, is that depending on where the enemy is facing, the timings are different

mostly for holding w

and the position you have to have compared the the enemy

that is because, from what i tested, one shoulder has a wider hitbox in the air

[compact island]

I see so hurtbox probably inclined to non dominant hand

could you get banned for reading ram while playing

with the likes of cheat engine

?

would be nice tu turn on hitboxes and find more data

[undone anchor]

not sure about that

ideally, using third party software is usually dangerous

but i couldnt tell you, since i never tryed

[compact island]

yeah sounds risky

maybe Ill try it with a fake account

or do they IP ban you?

[undone anchor]

i would not be able to tell you

i would imagine by account? 🤔

but then again, you can always try and plead your cause to the devs if you got banned but not because of cheats 🤔

sometimes it works

i wouldnt recommend it tho

too risky

[compact island]

yeah, nothing guarantees the unbanning, also game is very old, so there must be a reason no one has done it

[undone anchor]

Not sure bout that 🤔

There is a whole community that works actively on combos and how they work 🤔

[compact island]

by a lot of trial an error, Im talking about hard numbers, real data, you can strip that by reading memory

I see no videos showing hurt/hitboxes for example

nor framedata for anything

just aproximations

good guesses at much

[timber geyser]

What part, cause im literally queueing inputs, besides the 2nd j.h.

[onyx loom]

🎉 | frezz. leveled up!

[dark depot]

this is what u wanna achieve right?

[undone anchor]

yep 👍

[undone anchor]

do you knw if placing the camera horizontally like that actually improves your chances to get carousel 🤔 ?

been a hwile i've been wondering about it

[dark depot]

• For the aiming point -> Use the left ellbow of the opp.
• Hold any direction (Left or right) before the hit
• After the hit immediately you press forward and input ur carousel

[undone anchor]

now those are some things i was missing

was trying to figure it out on my own 😆

had just noticed that if you go from the enemy left shoulder, the hitbox is larger

[dark depot]

exactly

the chance of hitting the followup is way higher

[undone anchor]

noted, ty!

[dark depot]

no worries

[undone anchor]

been a while i had been stuck on carousel for the MOHS progression 😆

[dark depot]

[undone anchor]

now my chances of advancing are higher 😆

[dark depot]

the secret ad is crazy

[undone anchor]

got ur back homie

[storm heron]

Is it possible to do a combo like this in a real situation? I usually train using that green dodge and the tianhai dodges and a lot of things we see on the internet are not possible to do due to several dodge frames

[wicked socket]

What is MOHS

[undone anchor]

Don't use green dodge; it's not enabled in games

Only present In quick match and showdown, but even there it's not used

[undone anchor]

A combo community you could say

[storm heron]

I'll stick with the green dodge then. I play more quick match than ranked, for some reason on the SA node after a certain rank the matches start to have around 300 ping... T-T

[undone anchor]

Combos don't work if you use green dodge

Not a good way to train them

I wouldn't recommend it

Cuz green focus gets you out of true combos

[storm heron]

I try to do combos close to 2300 dmg, without activating the green dodge. 2300 dmg is purple armor + 100% HP. And many weapons there reach close to 1800 very easily. For me it's enough since I mostly play quick match. I'll look for some other combos without this green dodge

[undone anchor]

Yeah, but combos based on juggles won't work with green dodge, and if you want to go after the classic grapple combo, it's there that you need to look into

👍

[storm heron]

About this, can I keep this, or is it something that sounds "fake" and would never happen in a match?

[undone anchor]

Which part?

As shown there, without disengage, it's exactly how it is in a real game 👍

[meager trail]

in rank games

[undone anchor]

Disengage is green focus, which is not implemented, as said before

(for ranked)

[undone anchor]

With this setting, the bot will dodge out of any untrue combos, but will be able to get combined if it's actually a combo (if it makes more sense written like this)

[storm heron]

Yes, that's exactly the point. So here would be a good thing to keep, right? because if he dodges, it's an indication that either I'm mistiming some input or because it's simply out of date and it's no longer possible to perform that combo

Just like an infinite combo I tried to do with Nunchaku, it simply isn't possible to do anymore T-T

[light blade]

hi sorry im not sure if this is the right place to ask but i cant seem to land the grapple combo can someone tell me what im doing wrong?

rip cant send links

[meager trail]

that's not how green focus works
green focus bar fills up when you get staggered, when it's full you can do the backflip and this backflip is usable under attack, literally a combo breaker
meaning they totally can escape a true combo, like tarka or takeda infinite or matari multiple Fs combo

no need for the combo to be untrue

[undone anchor]

Sure, as for the links and videos you need to reach LV 1

[undone anchor]

Pretty sure I wrote "out of true combos" or smth similar 🤔

You wouldn't need green focus to get out of untrue things

That was the whole point of the message 🤔

[meager trail]

your message that i replied says ''with this setting, the bot will dodge out of any untrue combos''

[light blade]

ill just chat abit here n there till i hit lvl 1

[undone anchor]

Yep, always keep the one without disengage on 👍

[undone anchor]

Referring to the "without disengage one he selected in the image

[storm heron]

At least without this green focus, I can do other 2300 damage combo routes with other characters I like, thanks bro

[meager trail]

it doesn't matters?
with or without that setting the bot still could dodge out of untrue

[undone anchor]

I recommend doing it in #💬┃general-chat 👍👍, but if you got any questions about combos and such, this is the perfect place

[undone anchor]

That was the point? With disengage it also gets out of true combos, as mentioned above

[meager trail]

in short: if you want to see how it is in qm, use the one with green focus, if you want to see how it is in ranked, use the one without

simple as that

[undone anchor]

Which is exactly what we said above 👍👍👍, but Ty for shortening it 👍

[light blade]

does that combo work with dual blades

[undone anchor]

Yes

[light blade]

is is lmb or rmb focus

[undone anchor]

It works with dual blades, halberds, katana, Heng sword, long sword

[undone anchor]

Rmb , always

Aside katana where also horizontal works, and spear

(works also with spear, forgot to add)

With fan is also possible, but you need to get an uppercut in first, and that part is pretty hard since you can't do a horizontal nor vertical to guarantee it

(need to use the windwall and space it correctly, but it's a pain)

[flat onyx]

I thought spear was lmb only? I can’t hit the focus with vertical

[undone anchor]

you can see some pros doing it in nbpl, it's mostly a insanely low ping and high fps thing; don't consider it 👍

[flat onyx]

I can grapple with lmb anyways

Same damage ~

Btw Just realised how much damage 211 nunchucks and staff do

Still can’t hit them though

Maybe it’s because my sheath is on 3

[undone anchor]

got a clip?

[flat onyx]

Ehhh maybe I’ll post it later

[undone anchor]

👍

[light blade]

just tried spear and yeah can only land lmb but inconsistent af lul

[undone anchor]

spear is really tight

timing

[light blade]

i landed it once and never again LUL

[undone anchor]

it will be more consistent on players, dw

[light blade]

man i should stop ive been whacking this bot for an hour straight

[undone anchor]

😆

i feel you 😆

spent 4+ h straight there yesterday to hit a combo 😆

[viscid kelp]

Reading RAM and otherwise trying to hook into the game process are bannable and monitored by the anticheat

You can try to get away with it, but it's risky

Frame data you won't find because even if there was any, it's unreliable due to how the game behaves with FPS
Hitboxes would be useful, since there is a lot of merit to knowing the float animations from different angles, weapon attack reach etc, but nothing of the sort has really been made available in a legitimate way as far as I know

[white tundra]

so is this true and correct except for the last hit?

[undone anchor]

Yep 👍

Well executed

U can grapple a bit further away also, but it's a detail

[viscid kelp]

Oh yeah btw you're slow
You can jump earlier than you did there

[compact island]

yes what is the FPS needed for the full thing to happen?

[compact island]

Yeah figured, do you know if the ban is IP ban or account ban?

also while I get your point with the FPS flux, having real numbers will answer some question I do not think is totally useless

[undone anchor]

on 150 feasible, 200 easier, anything above that is also super op

u need precision omre than anything

[compact island]

so it should not exist, haha

does it kill a purple armor with a golden weapon?

also I just noticed he does not grapple the first time

goes from launcher to V

I was doing grapple, did not went for full thing, stopped at the first blue atk

[undone anchor]

everything that does 3k dmg or more does kill someone with a golden armor

also, this combo can be done, although difficult, till someone is dead, you can just repeat, as long as they dont use combo breakers or u mess up

it's also pretty unfeasible in a real game, ill add

needs exactly flat terrain and a lot of things

but insanely cool

[compact island]

yeah but the first round seems doable anywhere and that is good damage around 1500

[undone anchor]

the first carousel?

or you mean the first grapple reset?

[compact island]

the first grapple

even if you do not grappel the first blue give you more damage than the double launcher one

[undone anchor]

can do it like this

[compact island]

that seems solid, anywher? I just could not get it constantly, Ill try again with the tips he gave out

[undone anchor]

1500 dmg still, way easier

[compact island]

after the grapple sometimes I get enemy too far away

actually scrath that

MOST of the time

I get the enemy too far away

haha

Im not sure what am I doing different when the enemy does not fly far away

also my camara goes crazy sometimes

Do you know how can I disable that auto tracking from camera?

I did not even do the lock on thing, and still goes nuts when I cross up

[undone anchor]

i reckon u cant

[compact island]

[rotund solstice]

what are the inputs for this?
lmb > c.lmb > q > rmb > rmb > rmb?

[undone anchor]

Rmb > c.rmb> q > rmb > lmb > lmb (hold w during lmb, but timing might vary)

[rotund solstice]

sweet, i think ill give that some practice, i usually do the rmb > c.rmb > q > rmb 1.0 and its ok but ive been looking for a small step above that haha so ty!

[eternal salmon]

is the longsword infinite still doable

i tried a few times didn't work out for me

[light blade]

is there a trick to get the guy to fly up instead of away?

[compact island]

when I get it to land in front as you here, my camera go 180 and mess me up, why your camera stays?

[crude current]

my char does like a little 360 spin when i try to do it

[compact island]

yeah that happens to me too, haha

she get lost

[crude current]

fr

[compact island]

[crude current]

wondering what she got going on up in her head

like u good girl?

[compact island]

probably some mischief

[minor remnant]

i wanna share some combo or gameplay in the video clips

but why is it all jiggle

lol

[compact island]

that guy does not represent us

[undone anchor]

you need to be level 1 at minimum in the server, it usually takes a few messages (10 to 15) to get the role 👍

[undone anchor]

wait, u got enemy tracking on?

with the camera i mean

cuz there is auto aim on the closest enemy for melee fighting, that one always better to keep, since it's what makes combos reliable, but camera tracking you can disable

[undone anchor]

the one with the grapple extension? (carousel)

if that one yeah, you see a clip of it right above, lyrics posted it

[compact island]

do you remember the name of the setting, not on game right now

[undone anchor]

i reckon that if you press "§" it disables 🤔

(it's the button usually under the "esc" one

[compact island]

a you mean the blue dot lock on thing?

[undone anchor]

no idea

it might differ from keyboard to keyboard

but if you check the settings for the keys you should see it in there 👍

[compact island]

no but in game a blue dot that appear on enemy and follows him

otherwise I have no idea what you are talking about

but what I am getting is that is not a setting?

[meager trail]

it's target lock

and no, no one uses that, unless you're fighting a kurumi who's hidding behind her umbrella

[undone anchor]

ty! i was missing the exact name

[undone anchor]

yep, the key i am mentioning serves to disable it 👍 $

[compact island]

yeah thats not it

Im not using that

and still does crazy 180/360 turn

[meager trail]

yes

same here

i can never do that combo

because either the 1st rmb knock enemy too far

or my character do a weird turn

[compact island]

that is exactly what happens to me, I have gotten it like 4 times out of 100

[undone anchor]

never had that turn happen tbf 🤔

[compact island]

and I do not see what I did different those 4 times

[meager trail]

it's not exactly a ''turn'' but more like the melee aim assist got confused for a second

so the character does the weird wiggly animation

[compact island]

Hey @meager trail you know what it can be?

[meager trail]

idk, after multiple tries and the fail rate is too high i just resorted into double uppercut

[compact island]

Have you tried changing your PP?

[meager trail]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lick-conk-conky-kitty-gif-18021368

[undone anchor]

as said before, carousel is dependant on more factors than just timing, but also direction you are facing, distance, enemy direction,...

that is why it's different

depending on where the enemy is compared to you and their position, timings and inputs may slightly vary

[meager trail]

i'll show you

https://tenor.com/view/nagatoro-noodletoro-noodle-arms-ijiranaide-nagatoro-san-don't-toy-with-me-miss-nagatoro-gif-5700553319668700329

[minor remnant]

yep seen that

[compact island]

he went nuts

haha

[minor remnant]

yep

got muted after trying sending shorts

guess i will watches these combo you guys sharing

because i cannot do that in my 60fps laptop lmao

[compact island]

I am not sure if my character does that crazy stuttering too, but the camera does it for sure, maybe that does not let me see Kurumi going crazy

[meager trail]

on this clip of your, your character doesn't do the wiggle, result in the rmb hit early enough for you to connect the lmb after that, able to juggle the bot in the air for the last blue

[compact island]

also got to mention in his video he is even more deep in enemy side, and still no camera/character going nuts

tabbie video is not as deep in, and still go nuts

so yeah IDK if it is a setting or what is happening

[minor remnant]

also

cant send video too?

or need 15 chat too

[compact island]

you need to level up for any sharing action

[minor remnant]

i see

welp

[compact island]

go general chat to spam, people are eternally yapping in there, It help me to level when I was starting, long time I muted the chat tho, but Im sure the yapping continues

[minor remnant]

oof done

the guy doing taijutsu cant see the combo success or not lol

[compact island]

you are doing H after grappel

is V

VHH

VHV works too but is less damage

[minor remnant]

isnt he move too after the V?