🔱┃weapons-combat

[compact island]

damn

[undone anchor]

Yeah

Also one of the reason you don't fight zai in ult: constant golden focus

[compact island]

okay so I pretty much Im just watching

for him to get tired of swing the thing

haha

[undone anchor]

Yes

[compact island]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-sir-gif-26219318

[undone anchor]

Or, you use abilities that cancel that

[compact island]

hoping he does not die

[undone anchor]

Like Lyam f2 pull, any knock back abilities,...

Those can interrupt

Not many attacks can clash with it tho

Mostly only golden jades attacks

[compact island]

yeah that I am aware, but CD too long, cannot count on em everytime

[undone anchor]

Spear twirl is relatively easy to dodge 🤔👍

[compact island]

not when side poked while you are fighting

[rotund coral]

Just don't get hit👍

Advice from someone that's still in gold.

[compact island]

https://tenor.com/view/prude-losers-patrick-taking-notes-clara-office-gif-17146068581059259150

[undone anchor]

Best advice 👍😂

[rotund coral]

I know.

[meager trail]

zooming yin

[undone anchor]

!?!?

[meager trail]

[flat onyx]

how do people do the uppercut after the first grapple

do they buffer the crouch before?

[undone anchor]

It's precise inputs

If you buffer the crouch it will make you fast fall

Need to input the uppercut command as soon as you bump the person

Before the bump it will do a fast fall

[sly ore]

It's just F dodge followed by multiple repair dodges

[undone anchor]

yeah, but it0s hella fast

[sly ore]

Could be a macro made for this clip

[undone anchor]

maybe

[slow salmon]

How do u go back like that

Is it just shift s

Or s + shift

[native glacier]

i once chased ziping for 10 mins with my duo.... no wonder

it was kurumi and ziping duo

they would run and hide in a corner

40 grappling hook in a bag

she healed just enough each time that we got her

[flat onyx]

why did lyam liu get a nerf

valda still has 3 spears and a shit ton of hp

[compact island]

talking about valda HP, do we have an exact number? cuz it does seems like a lot

[meager trail]

pre nerf lyam was too strong, now he's average
pre buff valda is too weak, now she's strong

[naive plaza]

Valdas HP is strong but I feel like it’s moreso about timing her out vs burning her extra HP bar. Just put her in a double uppercut combo and waste her time, she might even lose out on 1 of her spears if you juggle her enough since the timing on throwing those is quite tight

[meager trail]

yeah exactly

when she pops her V she can't use her F combo breaker

so your goal is to stall the fight long enough for her V to run out, or at least limits its usage

not trying to break her shield

[flat onyx]

I am very late on naraka news

And I don’t read patch notes

I unlocked Akos, Kylin, Lyam

All after big nerfs

The only meta that I found early

Was Valda and cyra

[meager trail]

i play trios so i don't care much about meta, but i keep myself updated

plus if your goal is chilling at 5k, any heroes works, some are better than others but none are really unplayable

[compact island]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but does my opponent ping affects me? like if they are on the high side does it affect my parry time?

let say I have 40ms and they have 120ms

[slow salmon]

Yes

Makes it easier for u cuz his thing is delayed so u have slightly longer to parry

[compact island]

thats not affecting me, is affecting them

so the game does nothing to try and compensate for the ping

[slow salmon]

All it does is give you more time to react

[meager trail]

https://streamable.com/lq798y
well this does happens in training room vs 0 ping bot

it's more like the bigger the ping gap is, weirder interactions happens

[compact island]

damn the sound did happen but the spark never appeared

and sometimes you just ignored his attack and parried anyways

so I am guessing it does affect

game is doing something

cuz I swear I am pressing the parry and is not working, I hear the sound and everything

but I just saw the sound is not linked to the spark

I guess I need to record the stuff no other way to find out what happens

also if you are hit in the back

let say

I am running

someone hit me with the basic staff combo

is it possible for me to parry if I got hit in the back?

[meager trail]

yeah it never does, sound play first, spark comes after

and only the spark counted for a succesful parry, the sound means nothing

but with higher ping gap, the interaction becomes weirder

[meager trail]

yes, parry now works in all direction

but for the game to confirm that it's a valid parry, that's another story

[compact island]

Its getting annoying, like 40 ping is not much I should be able to press on reaction

[meager trail]

even this could happens

so yeah i have no idea how they works now

[compact island]

hahahaha

it throws a die

[meager trail]

i didn't even finish the parry animation

red spark nowhere to be seen

yet i parried anyway

🤷‍♂️

[compact island]

not even turned red

[meager trail]

if it's a dash parry then it make sense

cuz dash parry ignore the delay

between your input and the red spark

but this isn't

[compact island]

I did not even know that was a thing

[meager trail]

this is a dash parry

as you can see the parry take effect immediately

[compact island]

I see well the clip you posted before looked like it was that

[meager trail]

except it isn't

it's a jump parry

but it shouldn't works the same

yet it did

[compact island]

it did look like you dash backward not jump

[meager trail]

i can't be dashing backward because i'm in the air

it's just the melee aim assist that pulled my character to that position

[compact island]

so to make this dash parry, you press parry in the middle of a dodge or you have to be running for it to work?

[meager trail]

just hold dodge and parry

tbh at this point just rely more on dodges, less on parries and when you do parry, pray that it works

cuz rn it's like, it didn't work i don't know why, it worked i also don't know why

[compact island]

🫤

I really like the game, but the more and more I learn...

I have dropped stuff for less

haha

naraka needs some rivalry

the fact that is the only game like this out there is making them cocky

and not giving a damn

[meager trail]

yeah
they released this game on global without making it works properly on ping range that is considered ''normal'' for a global server

the game works perfectly fine on CN where everyone ping is like 10 to 25

[compact island]

even if that was a thing the fps link to animation is a very obvious and dumb issue, its not only ONE thing

the ping stuff I understand

the other coding basics mistakes

I truly don't

and as I said is not only one

[meager trail]

yeah they have no intent making this game works for low spec pc

the difference between 200 and 300 fps is not that much but 60 to 100 or 100 to 150 is huge

[compact island]

if it was like okay only works on the players near the node but it ACTUALLY works

then okay fine

but is not the case

[meager trail]

welp we have been talking about this since forever

countless feedbacks was made

[compact island]

I am pretty near the node and still have this kind of issues

as I said 40 ms is pretty decent

[meager trail]

for any online global server game yes but not naraka

but we're just not their main target audience

[compact island]

I know and as I said, if ping was the only issue I can understand

but even in CN the core issues persist

right now I am not at a point where I can say I am awesome but lost cuz game threw a coin and it was not tails

but sooner or later that will be the case

and I will for sure drop the game by then

which is sad, cuz games should get better the more you learn

not the other way around

[meager trail]

yea i mostly play showdown these days too
tired of pvp bs

[compact island]

well not like I got anywhere to go, let see what virtua fighter bring to the table first, hope is not another "safe out of jail option fest" like all the current ones

[compact island]

I played it a bit finish all the main quest stuff, but not really fond of slash slash dodgedodge games get bored of it pretty fast

but it is pretty good game mode being is not the focus

probably better done than the pvp at this poin haha

sadness

[leaden belfry]

Can someone explain to me the mechanic where people grapple onto you mid-combo and then stagger you to extend their combo? When is the correct time to grapple someone to extend, is it when you've knocked them on the floor?

[compact island]

check the pin videos on this channel

is weapon dependant, some weapons can after launcher others can't

you need to run your game over 80fps to be able to perform them

[leaden belfry]

oh damn

so i should lower my settings hahaha

[compact island]

at 60 you just cannot make them in a consistent way and some are just not possible

I wasted hours there

is dumb but that is how it is

[leaden belfry]

Is it possible to see your FPS in game?

[compact island]

no, but if you are using steam you can use the tool it has

[meager trail]

ping too
55 and up you can't do air grapple combo

[leaden belfry]

actually?

[meager trail]

you can use nvidia overlay, steam overlay, or msi afterburner

[leaden belfry]

yeah i think i'll use steam overlay

is 100 ping competitive? i live in Australia and mainly find matches on SEA servers

[compact island]

tabbie is a pro player on 100 ping

he will tell you how good it is

[meager trail]

😂 what

[leaden belfry]

okay great so that shouldn't mattter too much

i just have to parry slightly early

[meager trail]

100 ping is bad

[compact island]

oh about the parry you are just in luck

he posted a couple of videos related

couple of hours ago

[compact island]

here

[meager trail]

i'd say with current state of sea server, 100 ping is ''playable''

[compact island]

3 of em

[meager trail]

but most of the time you're on disavantage

[leaden belfry]

wow

what the hell is that LMAO

[meager trail]

for combos ehh, with 100 ping prolly just basic grapple combo is available

[leaden belfry]

so with 100 ping against a 20-50 ping opponent, i'm parrying very slightly early?

and they have to parry slightly late

[meager trail]

100 ping against 20 ping you may aswell turn off the game alr

[leaden belfry]

fr?

[meager trail]

yeah

[leaden belfry]

damn

[meager trail]

unless ur opponent sucks and sucks hard

else no way you gonna win against them

[leaden belfry]

so is my best shot at enjoying the game to play trios and just take unfair fights?

because since I live in Australia, i usually have 100 ping unless I get a rare OCE match

[meager trail]

• it's always important to enjoy the game you play
• there's nothing such as an ''unfair fight'', remember: trios is 3 vs all, not 3 vs 3

[leaden belfry]

so I should just play trios and take advantageous fights?

[compact island]

you gotta consider that not many players have 20 ping

[leaden belfry]

ic

[meager trail]

tbf from what i've seen, most sea player play on the 40-60 ping range

100 might be abit too high but it's manageable

[leaden belfry]

whats your ping usually like?

[meager trail]

45 on a good day, with gearup booster

[leaden belfry]

i see so like 60 average

[meager trail]

normally around 60-70 though

i had never got 40

🥹

[leaden belfry]

i only get 25 when i'm playing a match on OCE servers

usually the game tries to find a match on OCE first and then 3-4 minutes later starts looking on SEA

[meager trail]

if gearup booster working for you it should lower your ping from 100 to like

70-80

[leaden belfry]

wtf is gearup booster

oh its a software

[leaden belfry]

gearup took it from 96 to like 88-89

the physical distance is probably way too much

[meager trail]

yeah

[wary escarp]

100ms vs 0 ping bot is still at least predictable tbh

Compare to 100ms facing another 100ms

Sometimes it feels like you just gambling when it comes to parry and blue focus

[compact island]

IDK the amount of results he got was all around the place, haha

[undone anchor]

Also for dodges 🤔😂

[bright dune]

does it work really

i thought it was snake oil

[meager trail]

it does

[bright dune]

i have 60-70 ping would love to have it lower

[meager trail]

based on my testing on 55 ping and up, air grapple combo stops working

so i test with and without gearup

no gearup my ping is 60, i can't do the combo

with gearup my ping down to 50 and the combo is available again

so yeah the ping reduct does work

[bright dune]

does anyone know location of the games server for eu?

[undone anchor]

Frankfurt I think

[sly ore]

Yes, I'm very close to the server room (5-10 ms)

[sly ore]

This sounds really strange, at 60 ping grapple combo should work and be even easier than lower ping

I can do longsword carousel at 60 ping

[meager trail]

ground grapple is still working at 100 ping, air grapple however stops working at 55 ping and above

your character will do a ''roll landing'' animation when you bumped into target

lead to the blue hold being late

ls carousel is ofc working because there's no air grapple in that combo

[sly ore]

roll grapple only happens for me when i hold W

but maybe it's different on that ping when grappling the enemy

[meager trail]

it is

tested multiple time and it's exactly the 55 ping threshold, well maybe not exactly 55 but like 54-57 something

w/o gearup i got 55-57 ping, can't do target grapple
run gearup, 50 ping, it's available again

so i'm convinced that once the game detected that you're above a certain ping threshold, it will just do something to disable certain moves

[pine dawn]

Hey, I'm a relatively new player. Do you have any guides on how to master combos perfectly? And what are the best settings in the game? (I'm talking, for example, about automatic grappling, etc.). I play Tarka Ji 😄

[undone anchor]

#❔┃faq + pinned comments in this channel 👍

[pine dawn]

Ohh, thanks a lot!

[undone anchor]

np

[slow salmon]

Whats the best thing to do after you clash

[undone anchor]

reset back to the hold checking part of the confrontation

a clash is a reset pretty much

[slow salmon]

Reset back to blue?

Also instead of doing combos I panic and start spamming lmb

[undone anchor]

yep

[undone anchor]

this comes with experience

just keep forcing yourself to try and dash back and reset

[lusty cosmos]

just means you aren't comfortable with your combos yet. go into free training for a few minutes each day and practice combos. Start with the beginner ones, when you are comfortable with those, move on to more and more advanced ones.

[paper birch]

After a clash - you can hold check as they’ll do the same most often than not. If you have a staff/bigger weapon you technically have advantage if you’ve read them (some people in lower elo’s don’t parry and at higher elo’s once you get timing right they you can parry bait) but at the end of the day it’s still timing.

Every player is different so it’s rather rough.

If you run valda - or other characters with skills that aren’t usable while under attack (valda’d F1 or tarka’s fireball, viper’s silence, hadi’s arm grab) you can play aggressively for your combos

But if you aren’t comfortable with combos default to hold checks until you are

That’s why body pillow and heavy stick are still popular though. Stoneform

[wintry bear]

How to block attacks better than noob?

[undone anchor]

wym?

[wintry bear]

When i try to block attack i cant and i feel like im doing it wrong I press G when i see blue shadow on ppl

[undone anchor]

you cannot react parry in this game

u need to predict it most of the times

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vMIlhsdQuE&t=83s

this might help comprehend parries a bit more and help improving also 🙂

[wintry bear]

Ohh, now i see

i need to jump more

[wintry bear]

Thank you for the good info, have a nice day

[undone anchor]

u2!

[cloud skiff]

How do I survive the long sword infinite combo and avoid getting parried?

[jade gull]

Easy answer gotta use combo breaker and don’t throw blue harder answer it’s learning better neutral to not get staggered into combo

[cloud skiff]

By combo breaker do you mean my skill?

[jade gull]

Yes a skill that’s usable under attack

[cloud skiff]

Are there any other combo breakers that I should be aware of?

Often I rely upon specific soul jades for the advantage

[jade gull]

I wouldn’t really rely on Jades because most of them can be parried, I would work on a better neutral understanding and how to armor up aka hold blue but don’t throw it so you won’t get staggered by light attacks

CB is just a skill usable under attack

Some skills have near frame 1 start ups with blue-gold focus and they can act as soft CBs

[slow salmon]

I wish I knew to start every fight by bluing

[cinder thorn]

reaction parrying slow attacks like spear vertical and soulbreak or the fan jade version is viable on low ping imo

[meager trail]

idk man

at 45 ping i can't even react parry a 123

dunno how low u're talking about

[cinder thorn]

i think most 123s are harder to react when people can delay their release so you aren't just reacting to blue or a pretty exaggerated animation like spear vertical

[meager trail]

that's not the point

''react parry'' is ''parry after you saw the blue released''

so it doesn't matters if they delay the 3rd attack

well technically speaking react parry is certaintly possible, but only with dash parry though

quick parry just won't work

[cinder thorn]

variation leading up to the release just makes reaction parries harder

soulbreak is very predictable ignoring that players can deadangle it which isn't possible to react to

[meager trail]

it's not about easy or hard to react to

it just don't work

[cinder thorn]

if i had like 6ms and more than 80fps i think i could for most

like against bots you can just reaction parry 123s without issue

[meager trail]

that's against bot

it works different

[cinder thorn]

it just works as if you don't have any latency to them no?

[meager trail]

the percentage of ppl playing on 6ms on global is like 1% or something, prolly less

the thing is

there's attacks that are designed to be react-parry-able, yes that's true

but when ping are included, it fucks everything up

so if you try to react parry in this game, on current conditions, 99.99% of the time you will fail

[cinder thorn]

i agree with everything other than dagger it's like 50/50 probably

[meager trail]

well also need to consider distance to target too

[meager trail]

dagger and fan soulbreak is a different story

because they're 2 very specific moves

after a dagger dash if they move and glow blue you KNOW that the attack is coming

unlike any other blue hold

[cinder thorn]

yeah thats what i was saying

[meager trail]

but again, only possible if the distance is far enough

if you're too close to your opponent it won't work

[cinder thorn]

dagger soulbreak doesn't really matter

its pretty delayed even at point blank you just kind of swing around the player first

maybe fan is different but i don't ever see that attack

[meager trail]

but again, you're able to react parry those attacks because you react to the blue glow NOT the attack animation

while if you trying to do that against other blues it won't work, because the moment you saw the attack coming (not the blue pop, that means nothing) it's already too late to parry

like against dagger user, when you clash with them, stay still, if they glows blue, parry, it works ofc, because it's the only possible move to make that blue glow

while on other weapons other moves their blue glows means nothing, never a sign of a guarantee attack coming out

[compact island]

damn so it is nearly a fact that even at 40 ms, you cannot react parry?

this explains a lot of my latest hair pullers

🫤

[amber mortar]

am i dumb, or is the combos list (F2) and weapon ability list (F3) not always accurate, sometimes even missing smth?
tried few weapons, one (i think longsword) doesnt even do its listed combos, and another (dual swords) didnt mention a 3rd (extended) combo in either lists

[meager trail]

you can, with dash parry

for example someone throw a 1-2 at you, you know that they could either throw a 3 or not
but if you just standing still waiting for them to throw a 3 to react parry then it won't work, remember that you have to ACTUALLY SAW the attack animation NOT the blue glows (cuz they could do 1-2 into blue hold) to call it a react parry, if you parry based on the blue glow it's still a predict parry
so the best way is to do a hold dodge, if they throw a 3 (attack animation appeared) it won't hit you cuz you're in dodge iframes, and you can parry during these iframes and this parry will works immediately w/o the need of the red spark to appear

[meager trail]

i have no idea what F2 F3 you're talking about

these?

[amber mortar]

on PC, in freetraining
F2 opens the Narakapedia and F3 shows the abilities for whatever weapon you have equipped

[amber mortar]

yes

[meager trail]

oh yeah this is lacking

[amber mortar]

either im just bad at the game, or the longsword "combo" isnt really a combo, but rather the good ol common attack combo, and then smth you cant activate or whatever

[meager trail]

better just check in here

[amber mortar]

ability list? does it show the same as checking the weapon's abilities ingame?

[meager trail]

i guess

i mean it shows the weapon available moves

[amber mortar]

yea its an ability list

[meager trail]

and yeah none of these are actually ''combos'' by naraka standard

[amber mortar]

while its BETTER, its not always fully accurate

[meager trail]

what isn't accurate?

from what i see nothing is wrong

[amber mortar]

well, more like there are sometimes another way to activate a combo

like with dual halberds, and another one with dual blades

[meager trail]

they're lacking yeah

[amber mortar]

dual halberds can also activate Hooked Wings (horizontal) after performing Cloudbreaker (horizontal) then Benthic Dragon (vertical), though in ability list, its only stated you can activate by starting with Decimator (vertical)

[meager trail]

uh huh

[undone anchor]

Low ping and high FPS yeah 🤔👍, also some dodge parries. Can be done on reaction like for katana and halberds if you got enough "pc stats" 👍

I'd still consider reaction parries to be less viable tho; most of the times a well done dodge works the best

[undone anchor]

That list only shows the most basic combos everyone can do without any particular training

More complex ones, that require swaps or grappling hooks are not listed

That's why this server exists in part; to help discover and train them if needed and if the person is interested

The game not really being beginner friendly already, they didn't list a lot of things because, especially at the beginning, there is already a ton of things to learn and do

More infos would've simply confused and scared new players more

And also combos are not really what you want to work at the beginning; if you cannot start them being able to combo isn't really useful🤔👍👍

(as for the weapon abilities / moves you can do, some are imprecise, yeah; mostly for the same reason. If you want to make smth exhaustive it will turn out to be too much text and a lot of things are things that you discover easily by playing

)

As for more complex mechanics, like the fact that slide uppercuts on dual blades and halberds, after the enemy is already in the air, sends them straight up, while a normal uppercut would send them flying forward, are simply too niche to be written

But if you are interested don't hesitate asking about anything, we are always glad to help when we can

((sry, it turned out to be quite a long series of messages 🤔😅😅😅))

[daring kayak]

would love any advice to what i could have done better here (yes im aware i panic used my f 😔, also ignore the music 💔 )

[sly ore]

1. listen to better music
2. when tarka ults, run away or go into mech. it's possible to win neutral against a tarka in ult, but it is extremely difficult and not worth the risk
3. don't parry against tarka, he can cancel any blue midway. parrying will cause you to animation lock yourself and die
4. study how dunking plays, he is on mobile hotspot and he only plays tarka and mostly on greatsword, beating him is like a minigame of its own

[daring kayak]

alr thanks!

[sly ore]

5. use the knockback of his ult startup to build distance and tapdodge away right after, spacing buys you time vs his ult
6. feria not recommended in solos for new players, the mech is not that useful in places with cover or houses. if you want to play a stalling character that gets a reset, try ziping, cyra, valda, hadi or shayol. feria can be a niche pick in pro-level solos, but only worth it if you specialize in stalling characters and/or extremely consistent mech dropdown combo extensions

7. be conscious about how you turn the camera while you F1, and space immediately after to stall for your next F

[meager trail]

basically... everything you did was wrong

• you didn't have a plan at the beginning so you run around like headless chicked, result in a climb into an air rmb attack, you're lucky he didn't catch you there but u got a clash
• after clashed you again don't have a plan but straight up jumped to his face, result in a neutral lose, panic parry, panic F
• you aimed the dragon roar directly at his face, you're lucky he didn't dodge parry it
• you didn't respect the tarka ult. When he ult and you don't have your F you should've ult right away, when you realize you should've ulted it's already too late

[viscid kelp]

ngl

just

don't fight Dunking in Tarka ult

[meager trail]

yea respect the tarka ult

he could do crazy stuffs with it

even if you parried him he can still get out

[viscid kelp]

Depends on weapon and release but yes

Though in general Dunking's Tarka is just really fucking good
I wouldn't even want to fight that despite knowledge about him and Tarka

[meager trail]

yeah but i mean even if you don't know who's that tarka you'd still need to respect his ult

mike gameplay, everytime a tarka pops their ult he run

everytime

[viscid kelp]

By the way, as for more general (and serious) advice, I recommend you keep terrain more in mind

A lot of weapon attack hitboxes in this game don't hit downwards well, so having the high ground in melee fights is actually a disadvantage most of the time. When someone allows you to pick your fighting ground by giving a fair 1v1 like you two had, aim for even terrain or for terrain where you're on low ground
Being backed against a wall/cliff is also usually bad, because it limits your ability for spacing (for example backwards dodges can be cut short). It's why you had that awkward downwards slam and why your F barely gave you distance

[amber mortar]

that makes more sense

aint too good of an idea to practice all combos immediatly, cuz theres a lot to memorise for each weapon
also cuz you get bored from too much practice (like i tend to)

[undone anchor]

Yep

Also if you see an awfully long text, your brain will less likely engage to read it

We usually want short and concise instructions when we looking for smth

[slow salmon]

You aren't bluing enough, from what I've learned shift back a bit and parry bait more and try and blue first and based off their reaction of ur blue go off that

And what everyone else's is saying take back the fight after his ult is done hear ult just dip for minute or 2

[wise coral]

I am here to tell you that you can listen to whatever you want and who doesn't like it can go eat an onion. Don't apologize for music, son Have a wonderful day and hang in there because it gets better as you will learn the game. Make sure to also check pins for some extra info

[compact island]

do I dodge hold away or forward?

[dim abyss]

if you want combos

check pins

[undone anchor]

It depends on the situation 🤔👍. To gain distance the generally safe option is to tap dodge backwards, but against things like longsword, sideways is better if they are releasing a focus attack (vertical)

Very situation dependant

[meager trail]

usually backward

and remember it must be a hold dodge

[compact island]

Well thats gonna tkae time then, but we were takling about dash parry not actually doging

yeah need to get use to do that, could not play today ping was awfully high idk why

[iron root]

are there any console players here that can give advice on combos? for some reason the heng sword H,CV,JH wont ever work. the timing after upercut is always wrong or weird no mater what i try

[undone anchor]

you mean doing a jump horizontal after an uppercut?

try to instantly do a jump the sec u touch the ground

also, u can fit in the first one when you do the uppercut, just press the attack button while in the middle of the uppercut

[compact island]

remember he is probably capped at 60fps

[dim abyss]

post video

[dim abyss]

doesnt matter

[undone anchor]

Doesn't matter here 👍

Plus people can use controllers while playing on computer as well 👍👍

[wanton venture]

ppl have already explained what you can improve so I'm just here to say you have good taste (unrelated to the channel but pls mods don't come at me it's just gonna be this msg lol)

[daring kayak]

i really need some tips on how to win neutral the amount of times i lose neutral, use my combo breaker and instantly lose neutral again is astounding 😔

[sly ore]

practice makes perfect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEnjEpzzfps

[torn sandal]

Does weapon grade have any significance other than it's endurance?..

[compact island]

its +20% atk on base each tier

[wary escarp]

using white weapon as base damage

to be exact, they increase your attack power base on the tier of weapon

This means holding a higher tier weapon also increase your abilities damage

[wary escarp]

Yes

[cyan falcon]

I can do this now

[wary escarp]

Nicely done

[meager trail]

at 70 ping even predict parry don't work anymore

also why does their attack already damaged me when the animation isn't even half way?

but when i try it myself in free training it's not the same?

[flat onyx]

The parry is so annoying at 60+ ping

[viscid kelp]

Because free training has 0 desync and can never be compared to actual PvP in terms of how animations and hitbox activation times overlap

[meager trail]

right
so in actual matches even animations cannot be trusted

[viscid kelp]

Well, you just gotta account for them being active sooner than you might think

It's weird too, because when I tested it, I felt like this game just has a high base level of desync
Ofc it got worse at higher ping, but 60ms vs 60ms wasn't a lot worse than 20ms vs 20ms

Almost like the server itself is just a bit slow

In terms of hitbox activation/desync I should specify
20ms vs 20ms is ofc a different universe compared to 60ms vs 60ms gameplay wise

[meager trail]

yeah i really don't know anymore

it wasn't this bad before

[cinder thorn]

that's pretty normal for high ping

[meager trail]

it really isn't

[cinder thorn]

animations should always be delayed compared to hitboxes as ping increases

like sometimes I have to dodge into attacks before they visually end to punish eu players its really ass

[undone anchor]

well done!

[cyan falcon]

Thank you! And thank you

I had seen people do it and i was like, I wanna do that!

Oop meant to tag you! @undone anchor

[undone anchor]

😆

no problem

[undone anchor]

you can make it even better with minimal effort if you want 👍

you can do a double uppercut a second time and ult when at the apex

then you can just rinse and repeat until they are dead

🙂

[cyan falcon]

i will try it i never thought about that.

[undone anchor]

it's pretty useful, it works for a bunch of heroes too 👍

namely justina, takeda, tarka, lyam

and technically kylin too, but not worth

[cyan falcon]

Another thing ive been looking into is i think whats known as full dragon? Doubel dragon? Combos ?

[undone anchor]

raw dragon?

it's exactly this 👍

[cyan falcon]

Oh yis yis

I tried something with Kylin and yea i agree xD

Totally not worth cuz of how his ult works.

[undone anchor]

kylin has a lot of cool combos with f2 tho 👍

so it's still overall worth imo

[cyan falcon]

ive only ever tried the triple confirm. But i think it doesnt work anymore right?

[undone anchor]

triple confirm?

u mean 3 focus?

(here a few examples of combos u can do with kylin specifically)

and here the possible extension with lyam i was talking about (which means plus the raw dragon part of it)

[wanton venture]

my every day pain

[wanton venture]

just not too soon or else it won't count either gotta find the sweet spot in between

[undone anchor]

dodge = safe

[viscid kelp]

Tap dodge gets caught by hold dodge rmb
Hold dodge gets caught by jlmb

Tl;dr, nothing is ever 100% safe

However given that Tabbie didn't even redflash, it seems like he simply cannot parry that follow up, which means ping just robs him of one option

[undone anchor]

fair

but at least dodge does not fail you like parries on a pure statistical level 😆 🤔

[cerulean nest]

How did the ‘raw dragon’ combo name come to be , I always wondered

[undone anchor]

good question; my guess is that it's because of how the justina dash looks 🤔

and also, adding dragon to smth makes it 100 times cooler, let's be honest 🤔 😆

[cerulean nest]

100%

[flat onyx]

every chinese cultivation author ever

[compact island]

That skin of lyam is pretty neat is the one from the last battle pass right?

[cyan falcon]

Was afk sorry yea the triple confirm with his ult. One charged slash and two normals and the after image hits

[cyan falcon]

I actually dont remember.. i know its not from This battle pass tho yea.

Im sorry

Ill look at your clips tho eranicks

[undone anchor]

Sounds pretty untrue 🤔; usually after a focus attack nothing can be chained, if not extended with some abilities

[cyan falcon]

Ive done _ Most_ of thats in some of these clips ill have to try the last one and the third one.

[cyan falcon]

I know u used to be able to do a double confirm but didnt they slow his slashes down ?

[undone anchor]

???

What you can do is a katana horizontal into vertical, into focus attack if you have enough FPS 🤔

[cyan falcon]

Lemme see if i can find what i mean

[undone anchor]

Maybe u are talking about that?

[cyan falcon]

Oh no no no

[undone anchor]

👍

[cyan falcon]

Its all ult

[undone anchor]

On Lyam? 🤔

Ahhh, with the ball ult u mean?

[cyan falcon]

I may have confused you but im delirious LOL sorry. And nope Kylins Ult

F2 charged clashes

[undone anchor]

Amazed that u did the first one 🤔👍👍, thought I was the only one doing that one so far 😂😂

[undone anchor]

Can't do that anymore, no 👍

They patched it out

U could do a charged dash into a 180° one that confirmed the charged followup

It's still feasible, but since the dash is noticeably slower, it won't connect unless the enemy messes up or u got a ping advantage

Imo it's better to just go v1 on Kylin ATM; for solos and duos for sure, unless u got a healer with you

[cyan falcon]

Yea i was up basically all night and i just started experimenting.

Eventually once i saw the potential i was like hmm maybe i can do the little carousel combo from this

[undone anchor]

Advantages of V2 are not good compared to health loss / dmg ATM, they nerfed it too much

[cyan falcon]

Yea usually what i do when and if i play him.

[undone anchor]

Ahhhh, another mad soul like me 😂😂😂😂

I also have been experimenting with him nonstop ever since the release 😂

Same with lyam

Bit sad about my FPS limitations, but found ways to make most things work

😂

[cyan falcon]

Yes! I like to just play and experiment i used to do the same thing when i played black desert and lahn. i used lahns entire kit.

The only issue with this game is tho, Ill experiment but then i wont always retain everything

But with this katan situation im practicing that ALOT so i can retain it then ill go back to LS

[undone anchor]

Have you experienced yet with katana / Heng swaps? Or katana /sheathe combos

[cyan falcon]

I dont think i can do them

[undone anchor]

U could find them pretty interesting with kylin, or in general

[cyan falcon]

Im a controller player

[undone anchor]

If you can do that slide uppercut after the grapple bump it s more than fine 🤔

[cyan falcon]

Im still having issues trying to master the 211 thing.

Hm

Ill try it then?

[undone anchor]

I delayed learning that 🤔😂😂

[cyan falcon]

A chinese friend of mine says its something else now

Let me see

[undone anchor]

I'm not at my computer yet, since I was on the verge of falling asleep, lemme see if I got a clip of it at hand 🤔👍

[cyan falcon]

985 combo?

Thats what he said is the new 211

And okay

[undone anchor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1194046114048000161/1281377810669240382/katana_heng_swap_triple_uppercut_HS.mp4?ex=677ef994&is=677da814&hm=5ebf71ee94218848a9d938f54e3748230807e5e7ed752445d24e4880beed9655&

This is what I meant for the swap

[cyan falcon]

OHH i think thats what he was telling me to do

[undone anchor]

Just input the swap during the uppercut animation; it will swap as soon as it can, then just input a slide uppercut, rinse and repeat till you can

[undone anchor]

I got some friends with crazy fps that can make It into a tod

[cyan falcon]

Yea my laptop only pushes about 200~245

[undone anchor]

This is slightly different 🤔

[cyan falcon]

[undone anchor]

This is crazy fps 🤔😂😂

My laptop is at max at 110 😂😂

[cyan falcon]

O

WELL THEN

[undone anchor]

And it sounds like it's about to explode 😂

[cyan falcon]

MAYBE I CAN DO IT

[undone anchor]

Definitely can

[cyan falcon]

HEHEHEH

[undone anchor]

At 200+ FPS all combos are aviable

Except the dual halberds heavenstep, but we don't talk about that

That being said, it's really time for me to sleep 🤔😅😂; have a nice day/ night (?)

I'll be back in about 7-8h eventually 😂

[cyan falcon]

i dont really keep up with everything like im supposed to . I didnt even know it could.

Yea! Its night for me 7pm goodnight! I need to sleep too cuz at this point ive been away more than 24 hours

Thanks for the chat and clips. Ill try when i have time

Be back in three months i guess 😂

[neat hound]

[cloud badge]

Any good katana combos on conssole?

[undone anchor]

console does not really have combos, due to fps restrictions 😅

[lusty cosmos]

You can still do some basic grapple combos and stuff

[flat onyx]

can the greatsword oneshot you?

[lusty cosmos]

It can depending on rarity, jades, etc

[flat onyx]

purple greatsword

vs purple armour full health

he had aerial rend

or smth like that

and i just saw him one shot literally

[lusty cosmos]

There are also a lot of buffs you can have. Full attack jades, full stacked juggernaut, desperation, food buff, and if the oponent doesn't have damage resist they will just melt

[delicate creek]

d

[wary escarp]

But oneshot is... uhhhh... I don't think it is possible

Not home rn so testing will have to wait

[undone anchor]

With golden polesword and earthshaker it's feasible

[wary escarp]

Well, since Aero mentioned Aerial rend and not earthshaker, I assume they died from vertical focus and not horizontal

[undone anchor]

Fait

In that case not possible to get full os by a GS

[final escarp]

This is unrealistically optimized but a purple gs can in theory os a purple armor with aerial rend alone

[compact island]

https://tenor.com/view/theresachange-dumband-dumber-jim-carrey-yes-telling-me-gif-4933650

[merry burrow]

Oh recently ive saw on a yt video that some weapons require a horizontal attack or vertical attack to make an upper cut true, is that right?

[meager trail]

yeah some weapons horizontal/vertical will stagger your opponent long enough to confirm an uppercut

[merry burrow]

is there a vid or list for them?

[meager trail]

horizontal: fistblade, katana, hengsword, spear, staff, nunchuck, dual blades, dual halberds
vertical: long sword

[merry burrow]

thanks

[undone anchor]

Consider horizontal for all weapons, vertical for long sword.
Fan, dagger, GS, PS can't secure an uppercut

[rose jacinth]

Which Weapon would you recommend for someone who started new with naraka?

[final escarp]

If you want to learn, katana

If you want to win easy matches early on fistblades or staff

[meager trail]

aside from fistblade and ps/gs, anything is fine

[cyan falcon]

Imagine getting 3rd partied by this

Might have to uninstall ngl

[merry burrow]

what is a ps

[undone anchor]

polesword

[solar maple]

Does every other weapon blue focus get priority over fist blades blue focus or is my ping/fps just bad?

every time I use blue focus with fistblades I do not clash with other blue focus instead I just get hit

and knocked out of mine

Mostly with dualblades and fans

[flat onyx]

Probably ping

But if it’s after a dodge

Like the fist blade hold dodge, then the blue is a bit delayed

So you probably got hit in the “loading” frame

[solar maple]

WTF

[solar maple]

Do you have any clues on how long that last

cus if that’s so ima start parrying or dodging.

cus I’ll hold yo the second charge and it’s still delayed

[storm void]

Is the Witcher event still going?

[compact island]

no, but store still there

[undone anchor]

Quite the opposite; either you are having a ping problem, or you are not clashing correctly 🤔👍

Fistblades focus, horizontal one at least, is nearly instant

[earnest moon]

171k in game but 5min qq

[solar maple]

Any advice on how to get better at chasing

I have really solid neutral to a point I can use kurumi in rank

but I tend to get our ran. Cus I don’t have any combos to speak of since I can’t do the finishing blow well…

They just run until they get a new armor and or ult

Then come back to kill me

Normally this will take about 5-8 min. Of them losing almost all their health running getting new armor coming back rinse and repeat. until eventually I mess up and they ult combo me to death

[lusty cosmos]

It mostly comes down to movement and map knowledge. Knowing where best to use grapple vs scale rush, times where you can predict where they are going to cut them off, or simply sticking on them and stopping them from getting away.

Btw using lockon can help with keeping track of people disengaging, and don't forget jump horizontal is a great way to chase people because it magnetized to people

But it will mostly be about grappling them at the right moment to get the stagger

Also this is where skill with ranged weapons comes up a lot because many chases can be ended with 1 or 2 shots to finish low health targets

[solar maple]

That’s fair. But my aim is so garbage I came to Naraka to finally be useful

[solar maple]

Ah yeah I never practiced grappling or scale rushing

I guess it’s about that time

[lusty cosmos]

Those are crucial in improving your movement game. Both for chasing and disengaging

[solar maple]

IM SORRYYY im a bloodbath main so Ive never really bothered

People usually stay till they die or get chased by the whole lobby when low health lmfao

Makes it kinda easy

[lusty cosmos]

[merry burrow]

does anyone know the rank gap for gold?

like what ranks can i get placed with?

cause im gold 2 Im decent at the game but this mf like he's a parry demon he's 2000 achievement points he has a chinese name

3 games 1st person i fought is a DEMON

ABSOLUTE demon

[meager trail]

you can party with someone who's at max 2 big rank diff (for example if you're gold you can party with bronze or astral), but you can get matches with whatever

[merry burrow]

I lowkey wanna rank up but every time i get 4 kills

i always end like 20 something cause there are so many sweats in my lobby

[meager trail]

yeah rank matchmaking in naraka is non-existent

[merry burrow]

I think this is why most people are asura in duos or Trios

Solo is litteral hell

LET ME TELL you, I DIED to a bot...

Mf started with a m1 m1 uppercut GRAPPLED ME and kept repeating that

[meager trail]

yeah that happens sometime, you faced a bot that dodged everything and spamming light attacks so fast you can't even get out
but you'll learn how to deal with them eventually, just keep playing

[compact island]

Im just learning how to deal with this myself, It took many bot mode hard mode matches, but short answer that I got so far, is never take the first action, let them swing first and try to punish, right the now bot weapon I just cannot deal with are the dual ones

I just do not know how to punish that damn vertical strike spam cancel VV VV VV VV

I just run when I face a bot with dual weapon on a ranked match, haha

they can hardly catch you

also if you find a bush, get in, no matter if they saw you already

they will stop atacking you once you are in

[meager trail]

they still does

i literally just watched it on stream yesterday

[compact island]

probably randomly threw an atk

[meager trail]

yeah random or not it doesn't matters if it hits you

[compact island]

but 99% of the times I tried, they just do nothinig

it matter if the rate of success is way higher

[meager trail]

ytd i watched a streamer, he was doing the challenge of ''only get items from morus blessing and play with it''

so he was running around w/o armor and weapon
then a gs bot spawn, he slapped it but after awhile the gs starting to do too much damages, so he ran and hide in a bush

the bot stopped attacking but keep circling around the bush for awhile, AND THEN it attack the bush

[compact island]

yeah It happened to me one time

I do not know what made the difference that one time

have not happened again

[meager trail]

anyway i'm just saying that they could do that, but yea it's true that it's easy to escape from a bot once you break line of sight

[compact island]

but as I said I think is like less than 1 out of 10 for me now

[meager trail]

what's the most annoying about the bot is their 3rd party

you're fighting someone and suddenly a bot appear out of nowhere blocking your escape path

or fked up your combo

[compact island]

@meager trail any advice on how to deal with DH/DS bots?

[meager trail]

one light attack and your opponent was able to escape, and when you're busy fighting that bot they came back with full health

steal the soulbloom

then kill you

[compact island]

yeah that sucks

have worked on my advantage too tho

[meager trail]

general advice is just to take them serious, they're literally running the hack that the devs allowed them to use

don't think like ''oh it's just a dumb bot i can take it easily''

it won't be

[compact island]

I just do not know what to do vs de VV VV VV

[meager trail]

dodge, break line of sight, heal up then fight them again, or just shoot them from a distance

[compact island]

Hahahhaha

OTHER THAN THAT

[meager trail]

if ur ping and fps isn't that good, trying to face them head-on might end up badly

and yeah those db dh bot attack spamming is stupid

[compact island]

I mean the other weapons I am getting kinda good at punishing them, but duals, it just seems impossible to me right now

[meager trail]

got a bot that dodged ALL of my tessa V

pointblank range

and keep hitting me with dh v and jump h

[compact island]

its crazy, you try to blue the hold theirs

you try to dodge and they just keep spamming that crap

[meager trail]

i think it still got the vid

you gonna love this

granted i was much more of a noob back then but still

[compact island]

it gets stuck at second 52 for some reason

but yeah it sometimes feel they have no delay

[meager trail]

yeah prolly render issue

[compact island]

they just decide to dodge whenever

[merry burrow]

wait Neutral cant hit blue only red right?

[compact island]

being middle of atk or end of a dodge

[meager trail]

yeah if they want to you literally won't be able to touch them

you can only hit them it they allowed you to

[compact island]

that is one of the reasons I was arguing Tessa just does not feel in the same boat as the other "easy" pick chars, the others can just ult and get most stuff away from them

Tessa they just dodge your stuff

cannot even deal with bots easily

not saying she is on the harder side, but she is also not couple with the likes of cyra and zai

I just press ult with those and Im safe

no matter what

[meager trail]

the reason people say tessa is beginner friendly because her kit is really straight forward

but to use her effectively it's not an easy task

[compact island]

you can hit blue you do damage, you just won't stagger them, which most of the time will result on you taking the hit

[compact island]

yeah I can understand that, also in teams is different since is very hard to dodge in the middle of crowd atks

but still I just do not feel she is on the same boat as the others

I feel even ziping as it is right now is just way easier to handle

you do not have to do anything she survives alone

[meager trail]

well yeah tessa is best when you could take advantage via ult for a combo, but for newbie at best they could do out of an ult is a 2nd charge attack

compare to that why not just pick zai and gold focus through everything and release everything

[compact island]

yeah and auto kill bots

which are some of the biggest threats for us new players

haha

you have no idea how many times I lost to bots

thats why I went to do bot mode for couple of weeks

[meager trail]

been there bud

[merry burrow]

imma stick to show down

getting better at parrying and dodging cause of showdown

[compact island]

It is a completely different game

tbh

you won't learn much in there

for PvP

[meager trail]

showdown mechanic wiill fk you up once you come back to pvp though

cuz in showdown if you play alone you can react parry everything

[compact island]

bot mode will help you way more

[meager trail]

but in pvp it will always be too late

[compact island]

just make sure you pick hard mode

or if you like showdown better well that is another story

[merry burrow]

i want to create a room for only me and myfriend is that possible?

[meager trail]

yeah

custom room

[merry burrow]

Ok

can he be in my oarty

or does he have to join outside

[compact island]

he has to be out

I think you cannot create room when in party

just make a password for it if you want no one else to join

[merry burrow]

ok

[bronze drum]

hi is it neccesary to swap weapon to veritcal charge on the air?

like after scale rush

[compact island]

no

[bronze drum]

what is the timing after a shift then?

[compact island]

just dodge sideways

[bronze drum]

does it not work for forward?

[compact island]

nope

[bronze drum]

ohw tyyy so much

was wondering why it never work for me

[compact island]

they are different rolls

https://tenor.com/view/sherlock-benedict-cumberbatch-hat-tip-greetings-smile-gif-4268618

[flat onyx]

It doesn’t get better, I’m telling you

I got to solar 1 and I’ve always got top players

Like whyyy

[flat onyx]

Agree hard

[flat onyx]

Scalerush them, even high elo bots are dumb to scalerush

[meager trail]

forward also works

you just need to input the hold earlier compare to sideway/backward dodge

[merry burrow]

Wtf did i just watch

the precision

what was that twerk you did midair?

[meager trail]

wdym twerk 😂

[merry burrow]

after the scale rush you jerked yourself a few times then fell down

[meager trail]

lol

it's just midair blue hold

[merry burrow]

at 0:01

[meager trail]

that's just dagger scale rush animation

the kicks

[flat onyx]

Same with fan

[merry burrow]

ohhh

[compact island]

Isnt this diagonal forward?

[compact island]

I see, I think I have never tried that

Ill check tomorrow

[meager trail]

wdym diagonal forward

[meager trail]

i have no idea what's those 2 arrows suppose to be

[compact island]

directions!! come on

I understand that directly forward is not possible, I saw it in a video somewhere

[meager trail]

anyway it's a forward dodge with W hold not A/S hold and camera turn

[compact island]

but pressing any direction other than 12 o clock will work

I was thinking more of a W+D

[meager trail]

is this 12 oclock enough?

[compact island]

I have been lied to!

once again

https://tenor.com/view/ok-gif-3541715392052943031

or you hacking

tabbie is a hacker!

https://tenor.com/view/witch-montypython-holygrail-shesawitch-gif-18421113243521844256

[meager trail]

yeah for the forward dodge you must input the hold earlier (almost the same time with the dodge) compare to sideway or backward dodge
people use the same timing and it didn't works so they assumed it's not possible

[meager trail]

i wish

😂

so i can curse ppl i hate

[compact island]

https://tenor.com/view/hate-angry-mad-pissed-palpatine-gif-10705178

[undone anchor]

I tryed understanding what you were talking about, but I'm still confused, what is the issue here? 🤔🤔

[compact island]

tabbie is a witch, and Im preparing the bonfire

[compact island]

also what advice can you give on DB/DH bots? the spam is insane

[undone anchor]

What happened?

[undone anchor]

Hold focus, wait for them to do a light attack, release in their face mid animation

[compact island]

I got it, no worries

[compact island]

yeah, I tried that, and the freaking just clash it

[undone anchor]

Otherwise dodge back (tap dodge( when u think a focus is coming and after this just jump parry holding w

[undone anchor]

Then I are not releasing a blue focus against a light attack

U are*

[compact island]

they know if I cancel or not, they are bots, that thing works with humans

[undone anchor]

(transversally dodging is possible btw, also for scalerushes)

[compact island]

they are not guessing

[undone anchor]

That's not how it works

They follow patterns

[compact island]

if I charge they blue

[undone anchor]

And adapt to your inputs

[undone anchor]

Dodge

[compact island]

I charge and dodge?

[undone anchor]

Consider that they release always at 1.0; dodge when they could release first, if they do, punish, otherwise reset back to step 1

It's a basic hold check

It works really well, especially against weapons that have such long focus animations

U can practice in in the training tool also btw 👍🤔

[compact island]

so I charge and instead of release when they do the stabby

I dodge

and you are saying they will be punishable after that

right?

[undone anchor]

If they do a focus attack, it takes around 1.5 sec to end I reckon?

U can just jump and parry that one and u will be teleported in it and parry

[compact island]

they never focus If I do not normal atk

[meager trail]

it better be lit else i'm not coming

[compact island]

they will go stabby stabby to dead

[undone anchor]

If they go stabby, release

Who said u have to release exactly at 1.0? 🤔

[compact island]

https://tenor.com/view/its-gonna-be-amazing-bill-burr-saturday-night-live-its-going-to-be-good-its-gonna-be-great-gif-18837510

[undone anchor]

Treat them as any player, just , instead of releasing at random, try to release when they are doing smth else

I'm imagining that you are not playing against unrivaled Asura bots, meaning that there is a looooot of room to release generally

[compact island]

I do not know, I do fight asura players in my queue every now and then

so I do not know if bots are that high too

im empyrian

by name

plat by skill

haha

ranking system does not work

keeps telling me lies

but everytime I try to release they know screw me up

they just wont stabby

and clash or parry

but Im gonna try dodge and see what they do now

I just been trying to punish by tanking

and dodging away

[meager trail]

then watch them catch u at the end of ur dodge iframes

[compact island]

yeah

that happen if I dodge

[meager trail]

and light attack spam u

and rubberbanding you 3 times in a row

[compact island]

never tried tanking then dodging tho, maybe something change, Ill try tomorrow

[merry burrow]

time to get dogged on by a unrivaled asura bot

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[flat onyx]

does the katana souljade true combo?

i was spamming spamming after the first hit, but it didnt even flash red

[undone anchor]

Yes it does

If you have both

[flat onyx]

Ah

Should I try to just push into astral this season in solo?

Or next season?

Because I feel like I’m still not ready for the even higher Asura lobbies

[flat onyx]

At solar 1, I don’t know if I should get to empyrean and further

[cinder thorn]

in my experience ranked doesn't really change past plat where you aren't going against 90% bots

[compact island]

when I realize you can just rank to whatever if your objective is ranking, I started to just pick up fights instead of being safe, is working way better for me, Im stuck in rank, but thats how it should be IMO, I should not be empyrean

yet I am

I lose most fights I pick at that rank

probably 25% win rate atm in that rank

so I definitely should not be in there

and I keep getting points, haha

[sly ore]

rating is definitely a complete joke

the tl;dr is that up until season 2, it was insanely hard to even get solar

if you placed top3, you would lose like -2 / -3 regardless of how many kills you got

as top2 you would get some rating with 5 or more kills

and on top1 you get like 5-15 points in hard lobbies depending on your kill count

everyone else just loses like -10 or more per game

you had to be insanely consistent to have high rating

everybody cried about it, people felt like they were great at the game and should have higher rating, even though they weren't

then the developers changed rating completely

now you gain rating as long as you play the game

it's almost impossible to play a lot and not reach unrivaled asura

you'd have to struggle with complete basics pretty much

just pretend rating doesn't exist

same goes for hero rating, hero rating just reflects how much duos you play

duo rating is the most inflated out of all, so a mediocre player who spams duo games on the same character will easily have higher hero score than people who play other game modes, even if they are very good at that character

if you want a measure of how good someone is, i'd say look at average damage for frontline, average heal for support and KDR for both

and if someone got to a really high rating without playing much, that might also be a sign of skill (you can see the game count next to the rating, lower is better)

[grim jacinth]

hm

so uhh i got a combat question how do i ... do combos and things since even just a 3 hit combo it can easily be comboed on the third hit so im not sure how im supposed to do any damage or kill anyone at a decent level

[compact island]

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-it-gif-18812641

[compact island]

check pin messages

also make sure you are running higher than 80 FPS

[flat onyx]

I always drop into hotzones

Some time around gold, I started asking around here

And after your tips i got to platinum and now to solar

In the beginning I always tried to play safe and loot

Then find fights

But because I also play trios, where we always had problems with the early game, I started just dropping into hotzones to try and get used to fighting in crowds and with no equipment

Wouldn’t call myself skilled

[compact island]

Id recommend you jump into immortal war if you can, you get some reality slaps in there

haha

[flat onyx]

I still struggle against dagger and fan( I myself have no idea how to utilise them except for holding blue)

[compact island]

no random gold armor jumpin early game

[flat onyx]

I wish? I have no luck in this game

I drop into the hotzones in trios

We are still straight up 1 gray weapons and then we get jumped by guys in gold and purple

Like huh???

Did you guys pay real money for a new glyph tree with full luck?

[flat onyx]

How does immortal war work though

Same as normal ranked?

[compact island]

I am not completely sure myself, I have been jumping there since past week, is time gated tho, like right now is closed

but what I can tell you is that you get only low tier equipment at the start

so its more of a "Fair" fight

no excuses

haha

you get trampled tho

people that jump in there are veterans

Im like 100 hours in

and I can barely defend myself most of the time

also you cannot rank up just by surviving you have to get kills to get gear and points

so Id say is way better to level up your skills than normal ranked

[compact island]

it just happens when you know where the juice is, you get to be that guy once in a while too, not really fond of it myself but yeah

[flat onyx]

I’ll try it out

[compact island]

it opens for I think 3 hours daily around 8 PM central

id say rank in immortal war is way more real, like in the whole week I just gained I have just been +16 at much

its just very hard

go back to +5

just running around that, not like normal ranked where you keep going up no matter what

I only run solos, thos, I cannot speak for the group modes

Like I hated trios, when I tried cuz it feels like a mindless juggle fest

duos is okay with friends

but never tried duos immortal war

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@wary escarp

[wary escarp]

I assume you facing problem in which you using 1-2-3 chain and got parried. 1-2-3 chain (keep pressing button until blue attack) is not a combo and it is really predictable.
On the matter of actually combo someone, check pins, you should be able to find some combo.
On the matter how to actually fight, same for pins comment but you also need to practice at the same time to get the hang of fighting for neutral

[wary escarp]

Yes?

[compact island]

nothing just saw you typing

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[wary escarp]

alright

[faint flame]

Colombia

[compact island]

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[naive plaza]

I’ll give you a rundown of the main differences between IW and normal ranked. First off, there are no bots. Everyone in the lobby is a real human player. The circle is smaller as well, since there aren’t as many players. So a lot more of the map will be unavailable to you. Loot is lower tier, finding a purple item outside of winning Yang or Capturing a spirit well is rare. Spirit wells also behave differently, and have buffs (white tiger, mystic, etc). Spirit wells in IW have a dome around them that prevents ranged shots, so if you want to fight someone for a well you need to be within that dome, you can’t just bully them away from far off. Capturing a spirit well in IW also refreshes your ultimate charge, and drops high tier loot that only you can pick up. Since you captured the well the loot is yours, but once you pickup something (armor or weapon) if you drop it onto the ground again it’s fair game. Anyone can grab it. As mentioned above IW is time gated, it opens for a few hours each day. There is only solos and trios. Duos does not exist in immortal war. Rift dealers in IW will have purple armour, a selection of souljades (including gold ones like phoenix blast, aurora burst, etc) that you can purchase throughout the game and prices are higher than normal ranked but you get more dark tide coins in IW for kills than you do in normal ranked.

IW is essentially the esports mode of Naraka, it’s the game mode used for NBPL & other tournaments.

[tough owl]

well, just like me and my team lol 😂 5mins in the game and we only get white or blue weapons and armor, but the team with fancy oufit has already have golden weapon 🌚

but hey, there are trait and buff luck scroll if i dont misinterpret it

[grim jacinth]

im trying to do a basic katana combo like in the pin but i cant seem to juggle with the grapple or have it come out as fast even if i do it right away he alreeady on the ground when it comes out

[flat onyx]

Oh it is predictable, the funny thing is people can still hit it if the ping diff is enough, the party spam doesn’t help 😦

[flat onyx]

I run full luck to get a discount in rift

And my friend also has some luck

So like huh

Game is scamming us

[wary escarp]

Yeah, it is a problem when it come to ping and fps, but I don't really want new players repeat the mistake of spamming 1-2-3

[wary escarp]

Could you kindly provided us with a video of you perform it, it will much easier for us to help you with it

[meager trail]

actually just let them do it because even on 50 ping you can't react parry to it anyway

[compact island]

why is that athena bald

[onyx loom]

🎉 | Loyalight leveled up!

[compact island]

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[flat onyx]

Same with 40 ping, but it’s more 50/50

I swear people live under an antenna tower or smth

[compact island]

I have been doing it with dash parry and it has been working so far, I am around 40ms

but yeah parry alone it just does not work no matter how hard I mash

[flat onyx]

This works, but usually they alt release the blue

So if it’s halberds, I can usually just jump parry, because the hitbox is so big

[flat onyx]

Do you have a clip for every situation in game?

Do you guys record every game?

[meager trail]

idk if it's ping or fps or netcode or whatever tf it is, but when i first started this game i was told to never use a 123 because they're react parry-able, and they are, but now? unless you mashing ur parry button when getting hit by that 2 else you won't be able to parry the 3rd blue hit

even waiting for the very first glow of blue to click parry it's still too late

[meager trail]

no just clips of me getting fked by the game

[flat onyx]

Average luck of my opponents against me in the first 30 seconds

[final escarp]

Is the follow up of the dual blades focus vertical true?

[meager trail]

it's untrue

[final escarp]

ty

[tough owl]

too bad 😢

[undone anchor]

Dodge back (hold) and parry; it's a faster animation

Activates nearly twice as fast

[undone anchor]

Can be, depends

[meager trail]

just got rubberbanded 2 times before this clip so i'm not even trying to do that anymore

[final escarp]

on what?

[undone anchor]

Fos, how you doing it

With a weird 180 with the camera u can make It true

It all depends on how high up the enemy is

[final escarp]

you mean high in the air during the first focus atk?

@undone anchor

[undone anchor]

Ye

[final escarp]

does it depend on how high you uppercut them or how high they are during the focus?

[undone anchor]

After the focus

[final escarp]

okay

[gentle goblet]

what’s the timing on grapple combos. I tried my best to replicate after getting hit by it. But after my uppercut my grapple seems slow to hit. It just hits low to the ground rather up high

[final escarp]

there are two kinds of how you can grapple - either the floor where the circle of the enemy will land or the enemy themselve

both are possible for focus atk

[gentle goblet]

sorry, i mean the floor grapple

[final escarp]

then the timing is uppercut; grapple so fast that your uppercut animation gets canceled and your character barely gets in the air; hold blue focus; wait for the bumb where you collide with the enemy; release blue focus

I can send a video in about an hour, am in a match rn

[gentle goblet]

Okay cool, much appreciated

[final escarp]

which weapom do you want?

[gentle goblet]

dagger/katana

[final escarp]

dagger has no grapple combo