📖┃lore-discussion

[obsidian frigate]

dreams can be wired

[bleak kernel]

Or it can be Cyra's dream. Many possibilities. Maybe they share dreams. 🤔

I won't be surprised if Inor lost Cyra on the way to Icuria and found her back before they reached Vesper Coven.

Rifts could start to appear when they were somewhere around Holoroth or Tatan desert. And it could first take them to the middle reality and then Cyra to the purple reality and Inor back to gold reality.

Inor could first find the original Cyra from purple reality, but then she came back to her reality and gold Cyra came back to her reality.
There are probably some problems / consequences if someone is in the wrong reality for longer, so perhaps she had to go back sooner or later.
And they could continue the travel to Vesper Coven in the gold reality.

[obsidian frigate]

this multi universe can be a marketing idea to bring rift mode and Mobile skin with reversal series 😅

[crystal delta]

hey @obsidian frigate can we hope for any leaks of fission chest any number of days ahead of official reveal?

[obsidian frigate]

a plan to bring cybercity map as well.

[bleak kernel]

I mean, it can be the same universe, just alternative realities of the same universe. Both ideas are slightly different.

[obsidian frigate]

we get the trailer for it like 24 hours before...i hope we get something soon than that

[charred ice]

We will likely get a few bits a few days before but main teasers always 24-48 hrs

[silk sky]

Yeah that's exactly what I meant. They have heroes like Takeda and Kurumi that actually make a lot of sense but somehow have others that make 0 sense

[bleak kernel]

I'm posting it here too, because the event channel will be gone soon, when the event will end.

[sick stone]

i don't get the ''only responsible for transportation and do not handle other business'' though

[bleak kernel]

I get it, Fugui meant that escorts weren't normally taking care of killing people like typical mercenaries. They were killing only when they had to, but safe escorting of what they were supposed to escort was more important than killing. Their main goal wasn't to kill, but to escort.

[sick stone]

cuz those guys are bodyguards too
like even when you can carry the goods yourself but you fear you might get rob in the way you hire these guys

to protect you on the road until you reached your destination safe and sounds

[bleak kernel]

Nowadays, transport convoys operate in the same way as in the past. They have weapons and can use them if necessary. Especially since they are sometimes under attack and must defend themselves and the goods or people they transport.
For example, escorts who transport jewelry or cash to ATMs and ATMs or exchange offices, etc.

It's simply a last resort for them, not one of their main and frequent activities.

[bleak kernel]

So as Fugui clearly explained, Inor's profession is to be an armed escort.
This organization can be called an escorts guild, as suggested by Spizik.
Inor Wan works in the same organization as his adoptive father old Wan.
I guess apparently it's the best or one of the best such organizations on the continent or at least in Icuria and nearby.

[sick stone]

inor himself was called the icuria no1 biaoshi

[sick stone]

i know

[bleak kernel]

I didn't write it to you specifically. 🙂 But to others, to summarize it.

[sick stone]

there's a very good manhua called biao ren - 镖人

or Blades of the Guardians

in english

[bleak kernel]

Is it a manhua about escorts?

[sick stone]

not really
the main character is a biaoshi/biaoren but it's deeper than that

[obsidian frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/time-gif-2433047733785542080

[sick stone]

yeah exactly lol

[obsidian frigate]

Transporter was a modern day Inor Wan live action movie.

[sick stone]

i use it in my video about inor wan too

if he's bald and speak english you might confuse him with someone else

😂

[bleak kernel]

Honestly, I think that Inor's work as an escort is mostly more mundane, average and boring. Except for exceptional situations. 🙂

At least he can travel a lot. That's a nice side of this kind of work.

[obsidian frigate]

at someone else expense too.

[sick stone]

well in this era if you're an escort you're expected to get into some fked up shits

like when he took the job of escorting cyra to morus and back he gotta do everything to protect her

[bleak kernel]

He probably gets in fights from time to time, but not every time. It really isn't very different now for people doing this kind of a job.

Cyra is probably the most extreme adventure he had in his work. 😄

I don't know if he's happy about such a complicated adventure, though. 😄

[sick stone]

well idk, if travelling across a world filled with fantasy stuffs is boring to you i don't have anything more to say

[bleak kernel]

It's a fantasy world for us, but it's just a normal world for them. 🙂

[sick stone]

so?

we're the one following their stories anyway?

even for people who lives in that world, his kind of work couldn't be considered a normal, regular job

[bleak kernel]

Yes, we're reading that, but we aren't there. I'm not saying it's boring to me, I'm not there anyway. I'm saying that from their perspective and objectively, his work probably isn't that exciting most of the time, like an action movie.

Why not a normal job? There were people doing this kind of a job in every century, in every country around the world in the real world too.

I think his work in this world is as normal as Feria family's work.

[sick stone]

and those are normal people? just ordinary, regular people can be an escort? carry weapons and is expected to get into fights that might cost their lives?

lmao

anyway

i'm not even trying to change your mind

if you think it's that boring average sure

[bleak kernel]

Professionals, like in any profession. 🙂 Yes, generally normal people. There isn't anything not normal about them.
People joined each profession either after the family or connections and potential / talent.
First, of course, everyone has to be trained, and if it goes well, students go higher and gain an increasingly higher ranks in their profession.
It's the same with a blacksmith, armist or shoemaker, etc.

[sick stone]

suuuure

carry weapons, taking missions protecting people, travelled across a world filled with stuffs that can rip you in half in a fraction of a second is the same with staying in a workshop making shoes kekw

[bleak kernel]

Do you think it was easy to, for example, be a blacksmith? Nothing of that sort. Not just anyone from the street could become one even if he wanted to. Now these professions have come out of use, but being really good required many years of hard work and constant self-improvement, being in a good guild too, having connections, knowing masters of the profession that can teach you better.

[sick stone]

yeah keep yapping, i don't see any logic in your argument the moment you compare his job in this setting vs a shoes maker anyway

and i'm not even gonna try to change your mind, as i already said if you think his job is as regular, ordinary as a blacksmith/shoes maker sure you do you

[bleak kernel]

Feria family's profession is making weapons, firearms too, as you know very well.
Yes, I don't think their work and his work are out of the ordinary for an ancient or medieval setting, for example. I rather think it's sad that you seem to have such a low image of blacksmiths or even shoemakers professions. The masters of these professions would in no way stand lower in the social hierarchy than the family of Feria or Inor.

I don't need to write more, so don't worry.

[obsidian frigate]

Feria is the Ironman ( Ironwoman ) of Naraka.

Hadi is Falcon

Shayol Captain America

[sick stone]

now i'm ''having such a low image of blacksmiths or even shoemakers professions'' huh? 😂 point to where i said getting to ANY job professional level is easy?
the difference is shoes maker and blacksmith don't RISK THEIR LIVES for their job 🙂 you're (a word that if i write it down i gonna get banned because it's offensive) so you couldn't tell the difference

[bleak kernel]

The name Falcon is already tied to Matari. 🙂

[obsidian frigate]

i thought she was Crow

[bleak kernel]

Temulch called her a crow, but it seems to me that it was supposed to be a magpie.
At least in my country there are such stereotypes and superstitions that magpies are fast, agile, very clever and love trinkets: all features of Matari.

Aquila is either a falcon or an eagle, it's translated both ways.

[bleak kernel]

I had metallurgists in my family. I was working in and was in contact with people from many different professions. Beside that, for example, my husband works in a mining industry currently. He was also in various professions in the past.
If you think that people don't risk their lives in other professions, craftsmen professions like blacksmiths too, even nowadays and even more so in the past, you know little. Paradoxically, they're exposed to harm and danger more often than people working in armed convoys. It isn't always as simple and obvious as it may seem, which profession is more dangerous and which is less dangerous to health and life.

That's really the last thing I want to write about it if your reply is to only want to insult me with curses that would grant you a ban. It's really unhealthy to discuss like that, I mean it. It isn't healthy for you, it isn't healthy for me.

[sick stone]

yeah ask your metallurgists if their job is as dangerous and risky as and the job of an escort in naraka world's settings, see what they says 🙂
also for the last time, i don't care what your background, i don't even believe in it so all of it are meaningless to me, if in the context of this specific game settings you say the job of inor wan and any regular, ordinary jobs like farmer, painter, shoes maker, blacksmith etc... is on the same level in term of life-risking then there's 0 reason for me to continue this discussion because i simply disagree with it and nothing you say gonna change my mind, i'm not gonna try to change yours either

stop quoting me, i don't want to hear what you think

[obsidian frigate]

Echoes from Another Realm : Chapter I: The Silent Qilin

[mystic palm]

https://tenor.com/view/ha-ha-ha-woman-gif-25360609

[burnt zenith]

Next time I see something like this you will get banned without a warning.

Mind that damn attitude.

[sick stone]

[obsidian frigate]

Echoes from Another Realm: Chapter II : The Last Kylin

[agile surge]

Are those lore mixed with Naraka? I have read DMBJ but the story is very blurry and many plot holes. I guess the author did that on purpose so it can fit any collaboration

[true plover]

🎉 | Hyper_Drake leveled up!

[clever girder]

@obsidian frigate

[obsidian frigate]

Thank you

[bleak kernel]

So it's true, Cyra has clairvoyant abilities and has seen alternative versions of her life in dreams / visions.

[bleak kernel]

Kylin appears in cinematics, now we have this event about him with the gate, so maybe.

[bleak kernel]

What's more, exactly three versions of Cyra. It fits into three alternate realities theory.

[strong tundra]

Hmm, this adds a lot of context and now Cyra’s original trailer makes a lot more sense.

[bleak kernel]

It's what I suspected from the beginning, based on both Cyra cinematics, even just the first one.
Ravens and crows are symbols of clairvoyance and secret knowledge. And she wakes from a dream or a vision at the end of both.
In general, her cinematics have a quite a bit of symbolism and clues, they're interesting.

[bleak kernel]

By the way, Matari's Culativation stories:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1B8b62UiELc0tldQlTkSWoLMxLT5GHVym

I don't know if you saw my private message.

[strong tundra]

Oh thanks a lot

[bleak kernel]

Matari and Temulch's descriptions are updated too. I wrote it before on the channel, but it probably drowned among other messages.

[strong tundra]

Oh just seen it. For some reason I always forget to check the Dms, thanks for letting me know

[bleak kernel]

I had Cyra's stories earlier, so I can put them on the google drive too.

I wasn't correcting them at all yet, though, I think.

[strong tundra]

Well that would be a blast considering Inor is soon coming and their stories are somehow connected

[bleak kernel]

Yes, they are connected, but we know it mainly from Inor's cinematics and his new in-game events. There isn't much about their connection in Cyra's stories. We only know from her last culativation story that Inor was commissioned by Mirith to get her out from Lunazra and take her where she wants to go (Vesper Coven), but they're on the beginning of their journey at that point. Maybe Cyra will get more Cultivation stories in the future.
Cyra isn't yet in Showdown nor does she appear in anyone else's Showdown stories.
There are some interesting snippets about them on various Cyra items. I posted this on the event channel about guessing about Inor, in addition to what tabbie first posted.

[strong tundra]

Yeah, we might get more about Cyra on Inor's cultivation stories maybe. Keeping fingers crossed

[bleak kernel]

Pin the second one, GhostEyes.

[bleak kernel]

There are very slim chances that we won't. 😄

Maybe even alternative Cyras will be present in his Cultivation stories. We will see.

[strong tundra]

Im curious though, do you think that Cyra maybe has channeling powers, like maybe she channeled Dark Cyras personality and powers to fry all those people in the room or maybe it was just self defence

[bleak kernel]

As I've written before, my theory is that there are either three alternate realities within the same universe, or three types of alternate realities.
I believe the purple-golden hourglass artifact could be a clue.
One reality could be dominated by Yin - Moonbane, the color purple in Naraka. The other could be dominated by Sunwing - Yang, the color golden. And the third world could be neutral / between the other two.
In this neutral world, the Aegis tree is maybe growing in the Tatan desert or in Holoroth, perhaps in many places, and this reality may be the most balanced.
The Aegis tree could be trying to restore balance in the other two realities tilting too far in one direction, which is leading to disaster.
What Wuchen and Tessa did probably also plays a role in all this and in appearances of rifts in space-time.

I don't think Cyra is able to influence herself in alternate realities. She probably can see it, experience it with all senses, but not take over and change something.
In other words, each Cyra has visions / dreams about each of the three Cyras, but none of them influences any of them. 😄

[strong tundra]

Makes sense as both Wuchen and Tessa tend to lean towards walking the fence with their mannerisms

[bleak kernel]

I mean, Wuchen and Tessa succeeded in reviving one of Sunwing's bodies in the reality known to us, which is the gold - Sunwing's reality.

And rifts are what happened not long after.

[strong tundra]

Ah so their actions of playing God caused up all realities to mix up of a sort

[bleak kernel]

Did you read the legend of the beginning of Naraka's world?

If you didn't, main info about Sunwing and Moonbane is there.

If you did, we can wonder what actually Wuchen is planning, because what he's doing seems crazy. But he knows more than we do, as a master of divination.

[strong tundra]

So about Cyra I was thinking maybe Dark Cyra doesnt have those clairvoyant capabilities as she mentions to Inor in the trailer that she would like to see the 'good' Cyra.

[bleak kernel]

I understand it this way that Purple Cyra says that she has seen Gold Cyra, but would like to see - meet her in person.
Everything indicates that she also saw her in a vision. She wouldn't know about her otherwise. Both Cyras have seen each other, but indirectly.
What the White Reaper posted indicates that they have seen even one more, third Cyra.

[strong tundra]

I did when I just got on to the game but its been a while

[strong tundra]

Oh! I think I need to rewatch it

[bleak kernel]

Stories about places are on the google drive in the same folder as descriptions of characters.
It's best to read them first, they are all connected.

[bleak kernel]

Another issue is that the original Chinese version is the most valuable; English interpretations vary, some are outright very wrong. Unfortunately, we can't rely on them, so it's best to know Chinese and watch Chinese versions if you do know the language.

But even in the English version, the purple Cyra said something she shouldn't normally know, I think. Inor didn't tell her.

@strong tundra

->

[strong tundra]

Its a lot but will get up to speed.

[strong tundra]

What did she say?

[bleak kernel]

Cyra's cultivation stories
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1jcD_2jvkTwK0tDOlfFTDbomRH2latR0c

[strong tundra]

I curious as to how this balanced reality version of Cyra is, maybe something close to Wuchen and Tessa

[bleak kernel]

If we assume the third Cyra is the Dark Moonlight, then she's tougher, because she had to learn to survive without anyone's help and can take care of herself. Probably she isn't a devout of any side in this reality, neither Sunwing nor Moonbane. So she's a proper priestess of her religion, cherishing still both light and darkness or she didn't became a priestess at all.
Or Dark Moonlight is Purple Cyra and Thorns of Pain is the third Cyra. 🤔 The third one would be very unfortunate and sacrificial then in this case. It would seem that she may have been harming herself in hopes of getting Sunwing's attention, but Sunwing never showed any interest in her. But maybe it's Purple Cyra's story.

I would never call Tessa balanced. 😄 She's terribly cruel. Maybe Tessa has a more neutral version in the supposed "neutral" reality too.
Wuchen is far from a saint too. Wuchen is too eager to take risks in reality known to us and too focused on himself and his vision. He's scheming behind everyone.

[clever girder]

Yea I feel like Cyra can somehow see into diff realities. Right now we have Sunwing Cyra, then Mobile would be Moonbane Cyra and a more like neutral Cyra who eventually never went into any kinda cult sounds interesting, especially if she had to survive on her own, maybe that’s the Cyra Inor met, since I can’t remember our Cyra getting lost between the worlds in the current lore

[bleak kernel]

It could happen between her last cultivation story and later descriptions of items.
I had written earlier that maybe rifts started to happen, when Gold Cyra was travelling with Inor through Tatan or Holoroth and they were first taken to the middle reality where the tree could be in that place and then were separated into Gold and Purple realities. And Inor could finally find Cyra and bring her back to the right reality again even before they got to Vesper Coven. Or maybe it happened after they got to Vesper Coven or in Vesper Coven.
I think Inor's cultivation stories will have answers to that.
I think his adventures with Cyra will be one of the main topics in his cultivation stories.

[clever girder]

I will see if I have any cultivations for him by tomorrow ready

[bleak kernel]

Do you have access to his Cultivation stories on this test server? I guess it's a test server.
Don't worry, though. He will be in the regular version of the game after Wednesday, so it's soon enough. 🙂 You don't have to make it quicker.

[strong tundra]

So from what I am gathering from these short stories is that there are 4 versions, including the Cyra Inor is looking for and who knows maybe more other versions

[bleak kernel]

https://youtu.be/LHJZTxKM6W0?feature=shared&t=245
(in English) "That light... does it burn brighter than I do? When you find her in the rift, I would like to see her for myself..."

[bleak kernel]

No, there might be just 3 versions.

Which one do you take for the 4th one?

Feathered Point must be the Sunwing's / Gold Cyra. The one from the reality known to us.

[strong tundra]

Well in all stories it starts by saying Cyra envisioned another version of herself. That makes it 3 versions plus her which makes 4 hmm

[bleak kernel]

Gold Cyra envisioned the Dark Cyra and the third Cyra.

And Dark Cyra envisioned Gold Cyra and the third Cyra.

And the third Cyra envisioned the Dark / Purple Cyra and the Gold Cyra.

It fits, there is no need for a 4th Cyra. 🙂

Feathered Point is the Gold Cyra known to us for sure.

I am only not sure about the other two, which one is the Purple Cyra and which one is the third Cyra.
Both versions I wrote, I can see them happening.

[strong tundra]

Makes sense, parallel realities

[bleak kernel]

Yes, that's why I wrote those may be 3 realities of the same universe.
The Moonbane on top reality is the opposite one to Sunwing on top's one.

[strong tundra]

So thorns of pain is more likely to be balanced Cyra

wait scratch that

[bleak kernel]

Maybe, I am not sure. I think it can be both ways. Purple can be either Thorns and went mad because of it or she can be Moonlight.

And the third one may be thorns if purple is moonlight or moonlight if purple is thorns.

Purple Cyra is only on mobile version of Naraka so far, so I don't know if there are her alternative versions of cultivation stories there or not. Or maybe they have descriptions of items with stories that we don't have. We don't know much about her on PC version and in English.

[strong tundra]

Yeah I think its her thorns of pain is balanced version

[bleak kernel]

I think chances are 50/50. 🙂 Cyra could become Moonbane's devout from both Moonlight and Thorns beginning.

We will see if we will get conclusion on PC soon which is which.

I also take into consideration that there might be only 2 opposite realities and both Thorns and Moonlight can be about Purple Cyra.
But I'm leaning more into theory about 3 realities or 3 types of realities.

[strong tundra]

So I think, Feathered point is our Cyra, Dark Moonlight is Dark Cyra and Thorns of pain is the balanced version.

[strong tundra]

Could be, your theory isn't too far fetched.

[clever girder]

Yea I think so not sure tho if it’s Chinese or English version tho, but I only did the first cultivation stage yet so I would only have chapter 1 anyways

[mortal smelt]

What is the lore behind Justina and Viper?

[bleak kernel]

What would you want to know? Beyond what is in posts pinned to the channel. 🙂

[mortal smelt]

Everything

[bleak kernel]

I don't know everything either and it's too broad question, you know. We can debate on a specific topic about them.
Did you read Viper's and Justina's cards made by GhostEyes and also what is so far on the google drive from the Chinese website? It's best to start with that.
Has any of their items descriptions piqued your interest and you wanted to talk about it?

[mortal smelt]

The interaction between the two

[bleak kernel]

But did you read the cards? 🙂

[mortal smelt]

I don't quite remember them but I do know that there is a commotion and she called her a viper a traitor

https://youtu.be/LHJZTxKM6W0?si=ft5YoagxRvjWkmKl

I also wonder when her skin is coming out as well

[bleak kernel]

Well, I mean, you can read their cards again right now if you don't remember them? 🤔 Those descriptions of characters from the Chinese website are short, even shortened more by GhostEyes and Fugui.
I can answer your questions if you don't understand something from their cards or would want to discuss certain details from them.
Cultivation stories happen more or less around the same time as what is written on characters' cards in most cases.
It's much better to read cultivation stories from Chinese or at least Japanese language versions, especially for oldest characters in the game.
I have some cultivation stories translated in the folder for only them on the google drive, but not all of them yet.
After what is written on cards, we don't know that much about what is happening with Justina, until she appears in her Showdown stories, but she doesn't have many stories in Showdown so far.
Items are the source of the info about what happens during other time than cultivation and showdown stories. In items case too usually Chinese version is better. Some of them aren't available to see anymore if you didn't buy them in the past.

[bleak kernel]

Inor is a man.

Fission treasure will come after the next maintenance, like Inor too.

[mortal smelt]

No no Justina

[bleak kernel]

Justina's outfit from the video? I don't know. Maybe someone wrote about it on beware-spoilers channels.

[mortal smelt]

Yah

[mortal smelt]

Okie

[bleak kernel]

From what I have seen on Fission's video on game-news channel, there's only Viper's outfit from the alternative reality in this treasure. But maybe Justina's outfit just isn't shown in the video. Or will be later in something else. I don't know.

Viper is probably Sunwing's chosen in the alternative reality, instead of Moonbane's chosen, that's the extent of what we can assume from only how it looks like.
It probably will have some info in the description, so we may be able to learn something from it when it will be in the game from tomorrow.

[mortal smelt]

I hope so cause the skin is really nice

[obsidian frigate]

She has her eyes covered so why every god wants to share the power through her eyes XD

[mortal smelt]

Ooh

Interesting

[bleak kernel]

Since this is an alternate reality, perhaps in this reality Yushan believed in Sunwing or Sunwing's followers are blindfolded, instead of Moonbane's followers. Or perhaps she first served Moonbane and then switched to Sunwing.
I could come up with other options, but these are probably the most obvious and plausible. 😄

[bleak kernel]

I think this outfit will definitely appear sometime somewhere in the game, since the other outfits from this video are showing up. Generally, outfits from every cinematic appear in the game sooner or later, if they aren't already in the game.

[obsidian frigate]

I think we wont get much from the alternative reality, and it certainly wont effect our Universe in anyways too... I was so hyped about it... till i hear something from Inor about it.. Both Cyra seems too have remember it like a dream. I dont know if their memory of the alternative reality they visit fades away once they are back in their original one.

[bleak kernel]

I think we definitely won't delve too far or for too long into the alternative reality and I wasn't counting on it. 🙂
There must be some mechanism, physics, invented by the author, which will ensure that the same person shouldn't be in the wrong reality.

It would become too chaotic and complicated if the game started paying equal attention to the reality we already know and at least one new one.

[obsidian frigate]

It was an Ad and a way to connect the mobile with PC and add some of their own creation that wont fit with current lore XD

[bleak kernel]

Hmm, and? It's normal for a game to advertise itself? You're writing about it as if there's some problem with it. 🤔 Is it bad that they combine the two in the story? It's rather a good thing. I don't think it doesn't fit.

Moreover, they must have planned it since first Cyra's cinematic.

Or even earlier, I don't know how far ahead they plan with the story.

[obsidian frigate]

I wouldn't normally care much, but jumping through realities and universes isn’t something casual. If this is all just for the sake of an outfit series, I would’ve honestly preferred they just used Cyra’s mobile outfit (description) instead. They didn’t need to go as far as introducing a guy who can leap between realities — someone powerful enough to throw another person into a different one. That basically means he can bring in or remove anyone at will. Who could realistically beat someone with an ability like that?

What do you think of someone with such powers? This implies that the Aegis Tree is connected across all universes, as its branches seem to play a major role in enabling interdimensional travel.

it is also aware of everything happening everywhere

So this Tree appears to be something more divine than even the two gods of Naraka a higher power must have placed it across all universes, suggesting it has a single origin and that every universe is governed by one overarching force.

[bleak kernel]

But the video clearly states that he didn't put her there, but rather that they were separated against their will and then he just searches for her, out of sense of responsibility. We don't know enough about what happenes in-between those events or after. It probably is in his cultivation stories and I'm sure it should be enough to close the topic about him travelling through the rifts.
Rifts in space-time can honestly be put in any fantastical story, it's common and doesn't change much.
I was skeptical that Inor has any personal abilities related to rifts in space-time, so I won't be surprised if he indeed doesn't have such abilities.
That was your interpretation of the video and it's fine because everyone will have a different interpretation, but if you got too excited about it, it isn't really the author's fault, GhostEyes. 🙂
All new clothes come with descriptions to the game. Sometimes they're snippets of stories from other books, games or universes and sometimes they're from this universe. It's nothing bad or different from the norm.

We know from the very beginning that Aegis tree is the divine tree, tree of life, axis mundi, from the time of the creation of the world of Naraka. And it stands above both Sunwing and Moonbane, was bigger than both of them. It isn't news.
Chaos was first, then the seed in the center which is Aegis and only then Sunwing and Moonbane, which are two halves of Chaos born from the Seed. Aegis is the only thing that can protect life against both Sunwing and Moonbane, their devastating fights. Heralds are as helpless as humans against two gods. They survived earlier only thanks to the Aegis tree, but because of humans the tree is damaged in Sunwing's reality since Yi's time.
It isn't strange at all if it's the same tree in all realities of the same universe. It's maybe a complex idea, but it isn't like it doesn't make sense.

[obsidian frigate]

Even if he doesn't put her there, he was able to travel through different universes in search of her, so that means he has some control over this jump from realities. That's not background lore; that is something to be explored more.

[bleak kernel]

But all characters can travel through the rifts in rifts traversal. It's exactly what Inor is doing.

Inor only have this advantage over all other characters that he's very fast, so he can go through portals faster. In the story, of course, because I don't think he will run faster than others when we will be controlling him.

[obsidian frigate]

Then what is stopping all these clan Kings and demons from uniting from all realities?

[bleak kernel]

Travelling through rifts is very dangerous. Not everyone would want to risk their life. Author or authors probably also came up with other reasons no one can stay there for too long, that's why we have time limit in the other Holoroth.
You also have to know or predict where are open portals and when they will be closing. Probably not many people are knowledge about that, looking from a story perspective. We know in the game, because we have info on the map. But looking from the story perspective, I don't know from where our characters know that. Probably from the 3 NPC characters of Rift Traversal?
And how often would they be able to go through different rifts. We're going only through one rift to the same place every time so far.

It's easier for Inor to go through portals if he knows where they are and for how long, and go back before they close since he's that fast. But I think even he takes a risk.

[obsidian frigate]

The rift mode is not the entire plot, is it... If so, then in every ranked mode, one gets the immortality mask

[bleak kernel]

Maybe some kind of an artifact is needed to go through the rift or go back unscathed. And those artifacts may be very rare. Maybe they also lose their usability after some time.

[bleak kernel]

What we are playing in Survival mode, mainly Ranked mode and bot mode, is the clash between all heroes of the current century on Morus or Perdoria or in Holoroth. It's supposed to happen in the story sooner or later. We just play a lot of what-ifs scenerios. In the story it will happen only once.
Rift traversal probably also happens in the story only once. We can repeat it over and over since it's a game.

[obsidian frigate]

but in Rift you are there to collect pots and tables from another reality ..bro really XD

[bleak kernel]

This is a unique opportunity for treasure hunters to steal treasures from another time or reality. This is precisely what the letters we received in the mail were about.

[obsidian frigate]

Yes, so modes are basically 'what if' scenarios. The rift-opening is meant more to support gameplay limitations than reflect actual lore. It allows characters to travel to other realities, share what they’ve learned, or even bring weapons and divine artifacts back, meaning duplicates of the same item can exist in one universe.

which can easily win a war.

[bleak kernel]

Yes, in the story it happened or will happen only once. Yes, people can get exactly ONE duplicate of everything from the other time / reality.

So there can be two Jiling's red swords in one reality if someone brought the other one, but not more.

If it was a time after Jiling and the sword was already existing.

[obsidian frigate]

Yeah, so won’t this rift concept change the entire lore in a way? It’s a big deal that’s why I’m disappointed they chose not to add it to the actual lore and just limited it to cosmetics.

They had the spice but didnt use it

[bleak kernel]

It won't turn the world upside down if there will be two identical items in one universe.

I don't think it can work with the mask (or other things related to Sunwing and Moobane's bodies / essences), because the mask from the reality known to us is a part of Moonbane. I don't know if it would be the same or different in a different reality (maybe nothing like the mask even exist in other realities), but probably the mask couldn't be taken to other reality for this reason. Like it's an inseparable part of it's original reality. I doubt it's going through the portal, so to speak. 😄

Beside all that, I think rifts/portals to rift traversal are actually portals to older Holoroth from the same reality, not Holoroth from other reality. So in such case we could have problems with paradoxes of changing the past and time-loops, but not with one duplicate of every treasure being possible.

[obsidian frigate]

What if the rogue Shayol met our Shayol in the rift? She’d probably say, 'Girl, you better watch out, your so called adoptive father is a freak who tried to kill your real parents and is keeping you hostage without you even realizing it'.

it would be hilarious 😂

[bleak kernel]

If we're talking about Rift Traversal, even if this Holoroth is from the other reality, Shayol can't meet a different Shayol, because she wasn't born yet at that time.

Only Tianhai could meet himself, I guess.

[obsidian frigate]

What about Wuchen and Tessa

[bleak kernel]

I don't think they were born at that time yet too, but we can't be sure about that in either way until it's confirmed.

Holoroth in Rift Traversal is either from the same reality or different reality, but surely seems to be from the past.

[obsidian frigate]

The rift is not used properly...they just made a loot mode out of it without adding anything to the lore. 🥺

[bleak kernel]

I repeat again that what we are doing hundreds and thousands of times, in the story probably only happens once. 🙃
They're adding Inor, his items, his stories and the whole series of items from an opposite reality. It's much more than anything. 🙂 We'll see what we'll get.
The period during which rifts were appearing may have been very short, story-wise. Perhaps the situation was remedied and it ended. 🤷‍♀️ No more rifts.
It's possible that people working as escorts, beside treasure hunters and adventurers, had potentially one of the best possible knowledge in this or were able to adapt the fastest, due to their normal work / job. Inor was also able to search a much larger area in a very short time due to his personal speed, something unattainable for others.

[obsidian frigate]

Echoes from Another Realm: Chapter IV : Three Days of Silence

[bleak kernel]

On the side note, I imagine you're mostly sad that there probably won't be much about Shayol the bandit, GhostEyes, but don't be sad too long. 🙂

[obsidian frigate]

true...the wait just got longer

[bleak kernel]

🤔

The version of going from Moonbane to Sunwing then. 😄

[bleak kernel]

Turns out Dark / Purple Cyra is both Thorns of Pain and Dark Moonlight.

"Eclipse Radiance
Costume: Sheila Exclusive
The closer Sheila gets to Dusk Valley, the more she senses the surging, latent power of the Light and her sleep becomes increasingly restless, plagued by strange dreams.
In her dreams, she always wears purple. Though her features remain unchanged, her eyes are dark and dangerous.
However, that other self still believes in the Light! 🤔 🤔 🤔
No matter how her appearance or actions change, as long as her heart is devoted to the Phoenix, as long as she is willing to give her all for His return to the world, as long as she remains the one He has chosen—that must be her! Sheila has no doubt about this.
Perhaps... she comes from another world."

Maybe the gold Cyra is misunderstanding what she saw in her dreams / visions. 😄

[obsidian frigate]

Aww sounds like this is what Viper wanted all along. In some universe viper is happy

Also her mom is alive

so sweet

[bleak kernel]

I think it's rather that Justina and Viper changed places.

Justina is in Viper's situation and Viper is in Justina's situation. Viper is said to wear "royal" clothes. And Sunwing is related to their story this time for some reason. 🤔

Aconita probably ran away from Yushan instead of Daelyn then.

I wonder if the crown prince is more of a good guy or a bad guy in this reality in that case. And lord Qi. 😄

[obsidian frigate]

we still have Shayol in Rogue mode ..that dude is bad in every universe

[bleak kernel]

Shayol could become a rogue for other reasons than lord Qi alone. 🙂

Maybe he didn't have anything to do with her in this reality.

If the crown prince was a bad father, he could leave her with bandits.

Dealyn probably lost herself due to being the Matron in this reality, so she wouldn't care anymore.

[bleak kernel]

"Spear of Radiance
In a dream, Sheila saw another version of herself piercing the blasphemer's chest with a spear, offering him as a sacrifice to the Phoenix.
That scarlet spear bore a striking resemblance to her usual Spear of Radiance."

More about dark / purple Cyra.
It don't get it why she's dark / purple if she's also serving Sunwing. In old Embers tribe's way, which is more extreme than gold Cyra's way.
Is Sunwing Yin god in this reality, not Yang god? 🤔 And Moonbane is Yang, not Yin?

[strong tundra]

Hmm, so maybe all the 3 headgears are reference to the Dark Cyra. Feathered Point, Dark Moonlight and Thorns of pain.

[bleak kernel]

No, no. Feathered Point must be gold Cyra's. Only Dark Moonlight and Thorns of pain are parts of the same outfit.

[strong tundra]

Why do you say so?

[bleak kernel]

Thorns is an accessory for head and moonlight is for face, in the same outfit with the purple clothes.

Feathered point is also for head and it's a part of a different outfit.

Purple Cyra also has her own version of face, the last element. And her own hair, but hairstyles sadly don't have descriptions.

[strong tundra]

Okay, so only two realities in this case. What about the silver hair, Is it Dark Cyras?

[bleak kernel]

All 5 elements you see on this screenshot are parts of this purple Cyra's outfit.

[bleak kernel]

It doesn't rule out the third reality yet. We just confirmed now that those two items we talked about earlier were both about purple Cyra.

Maybe there will be descriptions about a third reality. I will look for them. 🙂

The third reality may also be empty, devoid of life or something like that. 🤔 If it exists.

[strong tundra]

I mean so far I’ve seen Shayol, Yueshan, Viper, Justina and Cyra in alternate versions of reality with no third options, so I think sticking to the two realities is where Naraka are with their storytelling. 😀

[bleak kernel]

Inor in the video is somewhere where some kind of shadows exist.

And the Aegis tree from the video isn't in Holoroth both in reality known to us and in the alternate reality too, it seems.

[strong tundra]

Hmm I wondered what those shadows were, I just assumed it was his ability.

[bleak kernel]

Hmm, I don't think so. His abilities are related to thunder and speed. Not to necromancy or ghosts.
I don't know yet what other explanation can be there for it and the grown Aegis tree in the desert.
I haven't come across such shadows in Rift Traversal or anywhere else.

[strong tundra]

So theres a possibility the aegis tree is in this supposedly third reality and Wuchen and Tessa know something about it.

[bleak kernel]

Since I'm modifying this theory anyway, I'd say that the neutral reality might be devoid of life or be some kind of purgatory and the aegis tree grows everywhere there. And it interferes / tries to keep balance in the other two realities. Because the tree must essentially be common to all realities.

Since it's axis mundi, the tree of life above Yin and Yang and so on.

Well, I don't know. We will see what more is there to discover with this new update. 🙂

[obsidian frigate]

We saw the dark Cyra in Mobile world, in that only Cyra is different everyone else is same . Assuming this Cyra is from there.

[bleak kernel]

Maybe it was a short moment when dark / purple Cyra was in the reality known to us.
We know from Inor's cinematic that she was, we don't know for how long.

tabbie wrote something about Akos having differences on mobile too, I think. 🤔 Or that at least he was in Showdown there since earlier, while we still don't have him in Showdown for now. But we will have him soon.

[strong tundra]

Perhaps a side effect of him crossing realities one too many times, hmm?

[bleak kernel]

Maybe it leaves shadows, I don't know.
Those shadows didn't look like his shadows, though.

[strong tundra]

Maybe theres a clue in Inor’s cultivation I’ll look also look out for it.

[bleak kernel]

Then we will be looking out for it together. 🙂 It's merrier in a group, as some say.

Kylin's Tao Gate might be an answer to crossover characters or at least Kylin. 😄 Instead of rifts.

[obsidian frigate]

Kylin just open a door and enter other world.

mean while Inor

https://tenor.com/view/back-to-the-future-dolorean-gif-23021825

[bleak kernel]

It don't think it works like this in this universe, but reference to the movie is funny, on point. 🙂

[clever girder]

Well I think Inor doesn’t know how his own Travel skills works it seems like he’s just jumping into random dimensions searching for someone but can’t find her, either he doesn’t know where she is or he doesn’t know how to aim into specific dimensions

[obsidian frigate]

Dusk Valley... whats the name of that place in our global version

[lyric idol]

I ship

[lyric idol]

@bleak kernel yo can we add lore weapon ownership?

For example inor is the owner of stormbringer

@obsidian frigate

[obsidian frigate]

not up to us 😅 , and im not sure if there are weapons made by characters in game. Like Tarka made a Great sword or Lyam which he probably should have made some but not heard of any to my knowledge.

[lyric idol]

Not made. Owned

[obsidian frigate]

well most stories tell who has the weapon so its kinda owned by them right.

[lyric idol]

U see inor use stormbringer both in hero coluctviton n in promos

[bleak kernel]

It's Vesper Coven. Sorceress Ten, descendants of the Embers tribe.
You didn't read stories of places I translated, GhostEyes. It shows, again and again.

[obsidian frigate]

yes , i was too lazy earlier to go back and check, and though you were online

[bleak kernel]

You were too lazy to read it ever since I have send it to you before doing the google drive, weren't you? 😄

[bleak kernel]

We can write which character owns which weapon or weapons.

Stormbringer does seem to belong to Inor.

The description of each item is usually a giveaway whom is belongs to.

[lyric idol]

Best exmaple inor owns/uses all the time in promos stormbringer

[bleak kernel]

Inor
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_cUF82ZLWQF9qqBhhWlpnxFPget_N7M_wm4M3fLXh-8/edit?tab=t.0

[quasi lily]

you probably have it already but i got you the clean map

[lyric idol]

Need to request to access

[quasi lily]

what weapon is this?

[lyric idol]

Its on private with request to access sis

Cyra extreme/debut chest

[quasi lily]

i dont see it?

[lyric idol]

Because chest is gone

Once chest is gone

U can preivew it in chests

[quasi lily]

aurora treasure?

[lyric idol]

But not in weapons

[lyric idol]

Ye

[quasi lily]

its not there i just checked

[bleak kernel]

Thanks, but I wanted a map without anything. Just the background image. But it seems it can't be given to us. 🤷‍♀️
That's the closest I could get to it:
I wanted all the names and places confirmed, but I'm ignored so far.

[bleak kernel]

You can see the thunder heng sword in the right collection. In Collections.

[lyric idol]

Ohh its in lanatran

Was releasing in lannie lantren

[bleak kernel]

Collections of items can be seen any time in Collections. Do you know where it is?

[lyric idol]

Yes

[quasi lily]

this?

[true plover]

🎉 | Optimal Daklen leveled up!

[lyric idol]

Ohh u meanr him

[lyric idol]

Yes

Go to sets

[bleak kernel]

Yes, go to Sets.

[lyric idol]

Sis doc of inor is close

Is it intended?

[bleak kernel]

You were faster than me. A true bolt. 🙂

[lyric idol]

Welp i am like lightning irl. Waiting for lightning charcther for so long

[quasi lily]

waiting for takeda rework for so long too

[lyric idol]

Got u a treat

[bleak kernel]

Oh, sorry. I forgot to move it. Now it should be alright.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_cUF82ZLWQF9qqBhhWlpnxFPget_N7M_wm4M3fLXh-8/edit?tab=t.0

[quasi lily]

they'll rework inor's ult faster than design a takeda outfit

[quasi lily]

?

[quasi lily]

i have 3 takeda outfits bruv

waiting till i get stag armor

[bleak kernel]

He looks... interesting. 😄 Like a character from some anime.

[lyric idol]

Look at drip

[lyric idol]

Cyra's man

[quasi lily]

i want his legendary hairstyle from fission treasure tbh

its so cool

[bleak kernel]

It looks nice on him.

[quasi lily]

paid gradients on each hairstyle

i currently run this

[bleak kernel]

By the way, I saw somewhere in the morning another version for Tatan desert - Titan sands. 🤦‍♀️

[quasi lily]

tbh this hairstyle looks like he hadn't had a shower in idk how long and was stranded in a desert for months

i dont like it

its seriously funny how katana skin raikou fits inor so well

[lyric idol]

In his lore/promo/chapters u see him use stormbringer

[lyric idol]

Stormbringer

[quasi lily]

i get it. that wasnt my point

[lyric idol]

Yeah he looks nice with raikou

[bleak kernel]

Yes, Raikou is Thunderous too, but Inor is from Icuria (City of Tang next to Holoroth), not Helioth. So he will use heng sword, not katana. That's why.

[bleak kernel]

Is it working now, without asking for access, @lyric idol @quasi lily? It should.

[bleak kernel]

My 4 looks of Takeda. 🙂

[bleak kernel]

@strong tundra Seems like Inor is seeing power / Qi of others as Shadows when he's in his divine thunder Qi form. 🤔

[strong tundra]

Oh, that's interesting. I wonder if it's everyone around him or those who are a threat

From the cultivation story, it seems like Inor is being protected by Sunwings' qi . While in his tempest qi, all threats to him are akin to Moonbanes qi, evident in the enemies taking the form of shadows and serpents etc.

[bleak kernel]

Hmm, it's possible, interesting theory. Though Cyra gave him Sunwing's tear only after he finished escorting her to Vesper Coven.

[bleak kernel]

However, I think it's Divine Thunder Qi, true / pure Thunder / Bolts Qi, referred to here as Tempest and the technique for using it, which his parents developed together. Inor is literally and metaphorically the fruit of this. Perhaps they discovered the technique of the Heralds or a similar technique.
There was something in the game already named Tempest if I think about it... Was it one of Omnius avatars? Something else? I don't remember now. 🤔
It seems that at least one of the high priests in Lunazra wasn't a human, but a Herald, a spy for one of the Elders of Heralds, Gaine.
In that case, Heralds have control over both Lunazra and Icuria, probably Helioth as well.
I guess Inor's parents where killed by Heralds or their agents among humans.

I will know more when I compare Chinese version of Cultivation stories with the translated, English ones.

[strong tundra]

Exactly. Makes me wonder of Inors parents connection to the heralds. Cant point the tempest item out now but yes the high priest seems like a herald or atleast one associated with them.

[bleak kernel]

He is a Herald, moreover one of their Elders.

Manticore from Showdown is his kitty pet. 🙂

I mean Gaine.

About the spy, it's written at least in English in a way that the high priest is probably a Herald too. But just a pawn in comparison to Gaine.

[strong tundra]

Oh yes , thats true.

[bleak kernel]

I will check how it's written in Chinese, when I get Inor's stories myself.

I don't have them for now, so we have only English versions thanks to Reverse Carry. 🙂

It's of course much better than nothing.

[strong tundra]

So Gaine is waiting for Wuchen and Tessa to do their plotting.

[strong tundra]

Sure, happy researching and please keep us posted if you find anything.

[bleak kernel]

I think Wuchen is a bit too full of himself and thinks that the Heralds don't know what he's doing and plotting behind their backs, he thinks that he can outwit them, but at least the Elders among Heralds probably know, if not everything then enough.
Gaine clearly has his own thoughts about what might happen and what to expect when Wuchen and Tessa meet Cyra. And I think he was hoping that they would kill Cyra and Inor, so he wouldn't have to lift a finger himself.

[bleak kernel]

Oh, right... His agent must be a Herald, because he was killed (or rather defeated in a way that should kill him) but didn't die. So he isn't human.

Gaine somehow teleported him, in a way known only to Heralds, probably.

He also knew too much about Qi for a human.

[strong tundra]

Its more of a cat and mouse game as we know both Wuchen and Tessa never like being Pawns

[bleak kernel]

He was the only one to see Inor's Thunder Qi and he connected it right away with his parents.

[bleak kernel]

Oh, yes. They both hate being pawns. Wuchen additionally hates all Heralds.

It's just his flaw that he tends to be overconfident.

[strong tundra]

Definitely herald or atleast half herald.

[strong tundra]

Haha Wuchen is one overconfident guy, thats for sure but with his knowledge acquired, you wouldnt fault him.

[bleak kernel]

Birthing a half-herald is written to be very difficult, practically impossible. And even if it happens, they should die quickly in their early childhood. Which should makes us think how Wuchen survived and who could be his father. He's obviously a very rare case.

Maybe he's the only living half-herald hybrid. It's very possible. I wouldn't expect more of them if it's so difficult.

[bleak kernel]

Yes, I think it's because of his human half that he becomes overconfident with too much knowledge. 🙂

Every character has flaws and it's a good thing in any story.

Perhaps Wuchen is also infertile, just as a tiger and a lion hybrid is infertile, for example.
Heralds and humans are probably much further away from each other in genetics than tigers and lions.
So a half-Herald is very very unlikely and a quarter-Herald may be completely impossible. 😄

[strong tundra]

Hmm, you make a good point. Also more reason for Wuchen to be overconfident

[strong tundra]

Perhaps he is, but this would have to be confirmed by the writers of the lore. Maybe we will get an answer in The Way of Contrarians comic.

[bleak kernel]

Yes, best chances to learn more about Wuchen in these categories will be probably from the comic / manhua.

On items it's much more often what humans know about him.

If Wuchen ever gets seriously involved with Tessa, then this topic would probably be discussed. But honestly I doubt that will happen during the course of the game.

[strong tundra]

Chances are low just based on their chaotic natures alone but hey, never say never 😁

Who knows maybe even Wuchen ends up with Shayol and Tessa ends up with Yueshan 🤣

Based on current reality of course.

[bleak kernel]

Wuchen is attracted to Tessa as a man to a woman, but he can't stand it and hates it. But he doesn't hate her. He has mixed feelings towards her, I guess.

He also has a bit of an inferiority complex towards her, while Tessa, in turn, has a bit of a superiority complex towards him.
He is half human, so to her and all other Heralds, he is chaotic and impure. 😄
However, she likes to keep him company anyway, teasing him and so on, although she doesn't take it too seriously, probably.

In Emotes, Twice the Bliss Tender Bond is actually a dance between Wuchen and Tessa. It was added on Valentines day.

Shan Yue (Yueshan) hates Tessa and isn't attracted to her at all.
He's attracted to Shayol, they are childhood best friends and a good match in terms of their personalities, but I don't know if they will end up together. They weren't officially together as a pair so far. The same with Wuchen and Tessa.

[strong tundra]

Yes, Tessa and Wuchen are more like playmates at this point who like to poke each other with attraction if that makes sense, since they have been doing this game for the longest time, I think its 600 years or so. Yueshan absolutely hates Tessa but thats exactly what draws Tessa to him. Wuchen and Shayol not much to say but same case of opposites and attraction.

[bleak kernel]

No, it seems they aren't that old. And Tessa is at least a bit younger than Wuchen. I don't know how old Wuchen can be, but he has at least several dozen of years and Tianhai must be older than him.
But newest clothes of Tianhai from the new update makes me think that maybe even Tianhai also isn't that old as I thought he might be. He has at least around 300 years, but maybe not much more.

[bleak kernel]

But beside that, yes. They have a looot of time for their relations. Wuchen is either immortal like Heralds or gets old very slowly and will live for a very long time.

[strong tundra]

I think in Tessas cultivation theres a reference to their ages or atleast how long theyve been scheming. I will confirm later but I have to go now.

[bleak kernel]

Tessa was 8, when she run away from Kama and Wuchen was tortured for it. He at least looked like a teen by then.
But we don't know which year was that for humans.
Wuchen saw Omid when Omid was a small boy and now Omid is dead, was an old man before his death. So Wuchen is at least as old as one average human lifetime.

Have a good night. 🌜

[obsidian frigate]

Who is that Priest anyway...seem like he was going easy on Inor...just testing what he could do and returned to ask should he just kill him..

[limber scarab]

Hi peoples, what is the lore of naraka about, idk why my brain wont get it

I mean I'm a Lord of the rings fan, but im wondering if this is about some mythological topic or things

[lyric idol]

What i missed?

[obsidian frigate]

please check the pins, there are lore materials you can start with.

[agile surge]

So Cyra and Inor tried to get to Sunwing's rest. The 1st prince had already started a war(?) there.
In latest showdown lore in Morus Isles, after Wuchen beat his master, Sunwing flew to Holoroth.
And in Holoroth, Ning killed her mother but lost the mask to 8th prince who wants using it to revive his "wife" (not Ning nor Gu's mother)

Im very lost with this timeline, can anyone help me sort this?

[lyric idol]

@bleak kernel sis is best at lore

[lyric idol]

Akos n inor are bros. Read in lore

[bleak kernel]

Finish reading all stories about places first to make it clearer and see a bigger, wider picture of everything through time:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1mPAjVJAzLGPDzUzYdzPlUWxQhyFoQFuB

No, Sunwing's Rest is an English name for a place on Morus Isle. Cyra and Inor haven't reached Morus yet.
Cyra wanted to get to Dusk (Twilight) Valley, which is Vesper Coven in international version, because she read about this place in old books in temple's libraries in Lunazra. She wanted to meet other humans worshipping exclusively Sunwing. It's where Embers human tribe settled after they were chased away by Yi from his territory around the time he founded Icuria.
Vesper Coven borders with Perdoria, Perdoria can be entered from the outside there through the Twilight Pass.
Perdoria is a karst cave inside Hidden Dragon Mountains in Icuria, between Ardora province and Thunder Cove province.
Wuchen and Tessa were in disagreement over what should be done with the former crown prince of Icuria. Wuchen would rather to get rid of him. Tessa helps him to gather loyalists, allies and stage a rebellion in the south of the continent against the 8th imperial prince lord Qi (who rebelled against him and tried to kill him first) and the emperor (so he's against the entire Icuria Empire), probably around Vesper Coven where she spent a lot of time, posing as a deity fox and a messenger of Sunwing to Embers' "Sorceress Ten".
After Cyra was successfully escorted to Vesper Coven, her next destination was Morus for some reason. Wuchen likely told her to go to Morus. Inor goes with her again, hoping to decipher a mystery from his father's travels records and helping her learn how to defend herself.

Wuchen and Tessa revived one of Sunwing's bodies (Sunwing had 9 bodies during his last physical incarnation before getting shot by Yi), but we don't know what Wuchen is actually planning. Tessa basically does whatever she pleases and is fun to her at the moment.
In Yushan Mountains, Viper and Tianhai were present. And Justina too, but Viper didn't want to put her to a lot of risks. The Matron was present and killed there, Viper's mother Aconita. But it must have happened earlier than events on Morus, especially the Sunwing body's revival.
Viper wasn't interested in the mask. Tianhai wanted to take it and seal it, because it's his main goal in life and his promise to the Flame Emperor (his friend) and himself. But Wuchen with Tessa snatched it from him, giving it to someone else and fleeing the scene.
It would make sense if that person was the former crown prince Virion, so probably the 1st imperial prince. But maybe it was lord Qi if he got to Perdoria, had a mask at that time and wanted to revive someone (Aconita, Viper's mother? Taizhen, Tessa's sister? Is he a reincarnation of Jiling emperor?). But why, though? And did the two of them meet - Virion and lord Qi - if they both were around Perdoria? It's strange. 🤔

[bleak kernel]

Well... maybe they became "bros"... they somewhat made up after first insulting each other and trying to kill each other. 😄

Akos knows the Thunder Panther tribe.

[lyric idol]

Inor hold off boars for akos to escape akos said he will make up for him

[bleak kernel]

Like I wrote earlier, probably a Herald spy / pawn in the hands of Gaine. Maybe there are more Heralds among high priests in Lunazra. Heralds have they agents both in Icuria, Lunazra and probably Helioth too.
He wasn't going easy on Inor, but still Inor managed to defeat him... But he didn't die, so he can't be human. He also knows to much to be human.

[bleak kernel]

Well, Akos tends to keep his promises, so maybe there will be a chance to make it up to Inor. 🙂

[obsidian frigate]

I want him as a playable character. Bring in the anti-hero characters

[bleak kernel]

You haven't answered yet, @lyric idol .

[lyric idol]

Ih

Ig

[bleak kernel]

Does it mean it works? 😄

[lyric idol]

In gamw

[bleak kernel]

Reply when you won't be busy in the game.

[lyric idol]

[bleak kernel]

Well, Wuchen, Tessa, Zai or Viper are kind of anti-heros enough. 😄
Cyra can be a devout maniac, as we see... Akos and Feria are unruly and reckless. Valda, Tarka or Matari or Lannie are partially like bandits at times.
But who knows who next characters will be.
Although I think Gaine is too powerful and his pawn too insignificant to became a playable character.

Even if they add Rin, she is "bad" enough.

[bleak kernel]

https://naraka.wiki/map
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AbKqeCLHowcrtXFWEuQg-IeCmZIjmnvnqIGtYXALUdU/edit?tab=t.0

[lyric idol]

Yes

Worked yesterday after u fixed

[agile surge]

Thanks, i messed up with the names Dusk Valley and Sunwing's rest ( which is Forest Valley in my language)

[bleak kernel]

I guessed it may have been the case. That's why I wrote to clarify that Sunwing's Rest is on Morus.
It's called Sunwing's Rest in English because one of Sunwing's bodies - or rather what is left from it - is there too.

[crimson badge]

Chapter 5 ?

[burnt zenith]

I’m waiting

[crimson badge]

😭 when it gona relese

[burnt zenith]

I don’t know

I’m also waiting on updates

[crimson badge]

🫂 us bro us

[bleak kernel]

Mae govannen. This is also fantasy. The main difference is that Tolkien's universe is based on mythologies of Great Britain and surrounding areas, while Naraka's is based on mythologies of China and surrounding areas.

[bleak kernel]

I'm waiting for translations of next chapters of the manhua too. Chinese versions are hard to get to, even to just look at them.

[limber scarab]

I hope it's based on mythologie of China tho ! but gotta take a much serious look about it before anything ahah
a Lord of the Rings fan, nice to meet you

[bleak kernel]

It's pretty obvious that it is. 🙂
Read stories about places from the Chinese website to get a good start. I have them on google drive.
Most important things and GhostEyes' cards are pinned to this channel.

[mossy salmon]

is there a doc or spreadsheet of all of naraka's lore together?

[crimson badge]

Ohhh 🫀 😭

[agile surge]

Umm, I finished with Inor' s cultivation . Still dont get anything in his trailer

[sick stone]

what is it that you don't get?

[agile surge]

Multiverse stuff

[sick stone]

multiverse stuffs has nothing to do with inor

[agile surge]

Why Cyra was lost and how is Inor able to find her across multiverse

Does any Contrary skin explain this?

[sick stone]

well the rift gates seems to be randomly appears

and cyra fell through one of them

inor lost her during the process

now he's trying to find her by going into different rift gates

[obsidian frigate]

Character Bio : Valda Cui

[lyric idol]

@obsidian frigate next is ⚡ ?

[agile surge]

If Naraka were an anime, Tarka must be the main character. Genius fire user, seeking for his long lost sister, makes friends with many heroes on his way

While Lyam would be an envy cousin who always be after Tarka no matter how hard he tried

[lyric idol]

And valda being love intrest/main femele charcther

[tawdry saddle]

then i must be the villain with how much i focus tarka in fights

tryna end his entire bloodline

[vast arch]

LMAO

[vast arch]

who is tarka's sister?

[obsidian frigate]

Zai

[vast arch]

WHAT

[obsidian frigate]

did you know Shayol is Justina's Sister ?

[vast arch]

What a min
Does that mean shayol is a princess too ?

Coz Viper Refers to Justina as princess

[obsidian frigate]

Yes

[agile surge]

Viper and Justina are cousins too, you know?

[vast arch]

I dont

💀

[dapper wharf]

Is lannie a martial artist, one of her lines in the hero menu is 'in magic tricks and martial arts speed everything'

[obsidian frigate]

Character Bio : Inor Wan

[lyric idol]

Get paypal ready by lantrens re run n u got a gurrentee shayrol

[burnt zenith]

[obsidian frigate]

we have no Inor Emote

[burnt zenith]

When we get better ones

[obsidian frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/fighting-stance-po-kung-fu-panda-4-try-me-you-wanna-fight-gif-4596534491769696639

[burnt zenith]

From the game

[clever girder]

Do we have Zai Bio ? Can’t find it

[obsidian frigate]

not yet

[clever girder]

Do I have to wait long or is it soon™️ ?

[lyric idol]

Morning

[lyric idol]

I think soon. Inor was made sooner as i bribed ghost

[clever girder]

Aright so we bribe him again and get Zai next gotcha

[lyric idol]

XD

[obsidian frigate]

You got it...next will be Zai

[agile surge]

Every heroes were on the wrecked ship at the beginning , weren't they? Just Cyra and Inor havent confirmed yet.

Morus Isles arc in showdown seems like have ended with Omnius defeated amd Tarka takes his remaining power. Is there any information about what happened to the mask after that? And how Matron of Yushan got it?

[clever girder]

Didn’t matron of Yushan got killed by viper / Justina not sure but I think someone Ended her in Showdown

[agile surge]

Yes she died but before that she was corrupted by the mask and The First Maiden.

[idle lark]

There's a new one i got yesterday in twitch drop

[burnt zenith]

[burnt zenith]

Take a screenshot in game and send it to me

[idle lark]

Remind me when I'm streaming later please. I'm at work

[burnt zenith]

[stark sentinel]

hows everyone doing

[agile surge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O9GG2x90I4&t=97s

i dont know is this a repost but i have just found this on youtube

[lyric idol]

Repost

As its saying new charcther

[agile surge]

so Lannie has joined Annica after burned down her cult by accident?

[sick stone]

no

lannie is a spy working for lord chu
annica is also under lord chu's command

[agile surge]

really? i thought she is just a petty theft and lazy ass

where can i read those information?

[sick stone]

nah, hoàng triều vô cực có 3 tổ chức giám thiên ti (kiểu FBI CIA đội điều tra đặc biệt), chính pháp ti (cảnh sát cơ động) với vô thường ti (tổ chức sát thủ), tề vương nắm chính pháp ti, sở vương nắm giám thiên ti với vô thường ti
lannie mệnh vận đặc thù (gặp thiên tai mà ko chết) nên dc chấp pháp giả của chính pháp ti nhặt về, sau đào tạo thành gián điệp cho xâm nhập điều tra cốc thần giáo

nma lannie nó đúng là vừa lười vừa chả quan tâm cái gì, tại số nó thế nên cứ dính vào mấy vụ kiểu đó thôi

[agile surge]

mà cốc thần giáo này tự nhiên mọc ra từ đợt shayol? cốc thần có phải kim ô ko?

[sick stone]

ko phải, nó là trò của con cáo

chả có thần linh nào ở đây cả

[agile surge]

như tiểu thuyết mạng thì là đoạt hương hoả cướp đường của Kim Ô đấy. Nhưng mà scale sức mạnh naraka hơi thấp nên chắc con cáo chỉ chơi cho vui nhỉ

[sick stone]

chả liên quan

lịch sử hình thành ban đầu của cốc thần giáo là từ 300 năm trước ở trường sinh trại, có trận bão tuyết lớn, người ở đó gần như sắp chết đói thì có vô số chim quạ chim khách mang theo ngũ cốc rải xuống cứu người, vu sư ở đó cho rằng đây vừa là cứu trợ vừa là thử thách của thần linh, cốc thần giáo ra đời từ đó

thờ chim quạ aka ''cốc thần'' (thần của ngũ cốc)

có thể là do nữ tân (mẹ ngọc linh lung) làm, để xây dựng thế lực của riêng mình bên ngoài ẩn tộc
vì con cáo 8 tuổi nó mới chạy khỏi đảo ngục, mà hiện tại nó mới khoảng 98 tuổi thôi
còn vu sư ở trại trường sinh kia chính là hoàn nguyệt

sau khi ngọc linh lung đào thoát thì tiếp tục dựa vào đó mà phát triển thế lực của mình ở vô cực đế quốc

hiện thân giả làm thần linh, cốc thần giáo k thờ quạ nữa mà chuyển qua thờ cáo

còn con cáo thì bản thân nó đang theo kế hoạch phục sinh kim ô, và cũng giải phóng dc vài phần hồn phách kim ô r, còn nó có xài dc sức mạnh của kim ô k thì k thấy đề cập

[agile surge]

khổ thân cyra đi đến hoàng hôn cốc vẫn là dị giáo

[sick stone]

nchung cốc thần giáo chỉ là thế lực do nữ tân giả thần giả quỷ tạo nên thôi, xây dựng tôn giáo để chiếm đoạt lòng tin của dân thường sau này dễ bề tạo phản, đối đầu với vô cực

thông giáo có năng lực điều khiển động vật nên mới làm dc trò này

[agile surge]

tam giáo ẩn tộcgồm những gì thế bạn?

[sick stone]

gồm giác giáo, nguyên giáo, thông giáo
Giác giáo ý là thức tỉnh, phương thức tu luyện là thông qua vận dụng âm dương nhị khí cường hóa tự thân.
Nguyên giáo ý là bản nguyên, dùng âm dương nhị khí của bản thân mà kiểm soát mọi khí trên thế gian.
Thông giáo có ý là thông hiểu, bọn hắn cho rằng hồn vì dương, phách vì âm, vạn vật đều là như thế. Thông giáo am hiểu thông linh chi thuật, có thể cùng vạn vật câu thông, thậm chí thu nạp hồn phách, biến hoá để cho bản thân sử dụng.

giác giáo tiêu biểu trong game thì là thiên hải, bí thuật giác giáo chính là thúc đẩy chân khí âm dương mà hóa khổng lồ
nguyên giáo thì có con boss vạn tượng, thông qua âm dương nhị khí mà nghịch luyện ngũ hành chân khí, bởi vậy mới có 5 con vạn tượng phân thân mang 5 nguyên tố kim mộc thủy hỏa thổ
thông giáo thì ngọc linh lung, quá rõ ràng rồi, phong ấn linh hồn hồ ly vào cơ thể mà sử dụng, là năng lực liên quan đến động vật của nhánh Đồ Sơn, hay là Đồ Sơn thị tộc, ngoài ra còn có Tương Liễu thị, tộc trưởng trước đây là Bát Kỳ Tử từng hóa thành Bát Kỳ đại xà, năng lực của thị tộc liên quan đến rắn, cũng là động vật

[agile surge]

vậy đạo tông vô trần với phật tông thiên hải là lựa chọn cá nhân chứ không phải giáo lý ẩn tộc à

[sick stone]

cái đấy thật ra ko liên quan lắm, chỉ là tạo hình thôi

chứ k phải giác giáo nào cũng là đệ tử phật môn cạo đầu

vô trần cũng chẳng phải đạo tông gì, nguyên là con lai giữa ẩn tộc và nhân loại, sau lại theo học nữ tân thông giáo rồi lại đầu quân cho vạn tượng nguyên giáo

về cơ bản tam giáo chung một gốc, chỉ là phương pháp tu luyện khác nhau, với mỗi cá nhân lại chọn đi hướng riêng biệt nữa

[agile surge]

trước tưởng 1 phật 1 đạo 1 ngự thú :))

[sick stone]

thật ra có thể cũng k sai, vì tới hiện tại thì chưa có nhân vật khác để mà biết xem có phải giác giáo = phật, nguyên giáo = đạo sĩ ko

còn thông giáo thì năng lực của họ phức tạp hơn là ngự thú sư

năng lực là điều khiển, thậm chí rút hồn của động vật mà sử dụng chứ k phải huấn luyện pet

[agile surge]

cốt truyện xa nhất đến giờ là đến sự kiện gì thế bạn? lore game thời gian lộn xộn quá

[sick stone]

sự kiện lớn gần nhất thì chắc là tề vương lấy đi mặt nạ mở ra long ẩn động thiên

nhằm tìm cách hồi sinh ái thê

[agile surge]

skin đỏ của lửa cũng chỉ ở đoạn đắm tàu trên đảo thôi nhỉ

[sick stone]

khả năng là vậy

vì lửa chưa từng rời khỏi tụ quật châu

nên vẫn là nối tiếp cốt truyện cũ, sự kiện cũ thôi

vạn tượng bị hạ, thông giáo bị giam trên ngục đảo cũng dc tự do

nữ tân rời ngục đảo tới hoàng hôn cốc

[agile surge]

vậy là diệt thần là tụ quật -> hoả la còn phần ác chiến trong tuyết là gần nhất?

[sick stone]

theo tôi thấy thì là vậy

người gần nhất đang cầm mặt nạ bất hủ là tề vương, mà tề vương lấy mặt nạ từ chỗ ninh vô sương, mà mặt nạ của ninh vô sương là do vô trần đưa cho, vô trần thì lại đoạt được mặt nạ từ tay vạn tượng

[lyric idol]

@bleak kernel yo sis new login event....

[scarlet hazel]

Can anyone tell the answer to question from event

[split pewter]

Quiz? D

[scarlet hazel]

Alright

[simple python]

can you help lore experts?

[obsidian frigate]

D

@simple python

[simple python]

ok thank you i thought its song

almost no reward xD

[scarlet hazel]

Quiz answer today for camel?

[split pewter]

A

[scarlet hazel]

[autumn pumice]

Do I sell all of this ?

[stone tartan]

why you hoard all of those to begin with ?

[autumn pumice]

Not really into the gamemode, just grinding for the Matari crown.

[stone tartan]

right well you might at well sell them hoarding them mean nothing well beside for flex else those are just waste of space

[obsidian frigate]

should be asking this in #🧨┃rift-traversal

[autumn pumice]

Thank you, I was looking and could not find it.

[scarlet hazel]

Quiz ?

[strong tundra]

8

[simple python]

can someone tell me the Icuria Empire and Helioth factions and the neutral characters what is the lore behind them and who is in what factions

[bleak kernel]

I'm not sure myself how to interpret this idea for the Discord event, both in the first edition and now.

Helioth has 3 most influential families and 4th one as the ruling one - Yoshimitsu. Kurumi is from one of the 3 - Tsuchimikado.
Icuria has 9 provinces and 5 most important noble families / clans - representing 5 Chinese elements.

Kurumi and Nobutada are from Helioth (early Japan). I would say Yoto-hime too, obviously, so I wouldn't count her as neutral. Kurumi cares not only about her homeland, but about Icuria too, she's fascinated by it.
Zai, Lannie, Shayol, Lyam, Inor can be seen as being on Icuria's side, I guess. Whether because of their real loyalties, circumstances or current situations, etc.
(Well, Inor works as an Icurian escort and his biological father was from Icurian nobility, although his mother was from Grasslands and his adoptive father was technically from City of Tang - under Icuria's influence, but a part of Holoroth.)
Justina, Feria, Akos, Valda, Tarka, Shan (Yueshan) are rebels to the current imperial authorities of Icuria, although rebels of different kinds and importance, so even though they are all from Icuria, it's hard to say whether they would definitely side with the current Icuria in every situation. Although they aren't against the whole empire and their homelands, just against the current emperor or 8th prince Qi for example.
Viper (Yushan), Matari (Holoroth), Temulch (Canis / Grasslands), Cyra (from Lunazra, interested only in Embers tribe and later Morus isle), Hadi (likes Icuria, but he's from Lunazra and currently in Holoroth) should probably be considered neutral in the context of Icuria vs Helioth.
I don't know with Tianhai, Wuchen, Tessa. They are heralds (half-herald in Wuchen case, but we don't know if his mother was from Icuria). Tianhai as an envoy was working in Icuria, but also in other places. Wuchen and Tessa, and other Heralds, are meddling in Icuria with humans and in politics, but also in other places. 🤷‍♀️

Ziping is from a Chinese Ghost Story, so I would count her to Icuria, since she's Chinese.
Kylin... Qilins or similar creatures are present in Japanese folklore sometimes too, but it's rather Chinese than Shinto and he - Kylin is also obviously Chinese like Ziping, so I think he suits Icuria more than Helioth.

[bleak kernel]

It's from Naraka Mobile. Zai was a new character on mobile back then or she had a new rework, I don't know.

[lyric idol]

@bleak kernel yo sis welcome back

[bleak kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-hi-there-cat-wave-cat-cat-hi-gif-18340632167687937789

[bleak kernel]

Yes, I saw that. Otherwise, I wouldn't leave emotes there. 🙂

Tarka is lovey-dovey, but Valda seems tired or annoyed that day. 😄

[lyric idol]

Welp we are getting are tarka x valda comeback soon i think

[bleak kernel]

They're constantly on and off about their relationship. That's the type.

Like Rachel and Ross in Friends.

[simple python]

It's all so messy but thanks sm

[bleak kernel]

Like in real life. Loyalties and factions in politics and between countries aren't that simple. 🙂

[bleak kernel]

By the way, I don't know if it's tabbie's influence, but I saw that Sakura (Cherry) Grove has been changed to Peach Grove.

[strong lance]

Kylin,Yoto hime and Ziping not come from all from another dimension .They don't belong to any faction.

We did some stories about Kylin in the original world in the previous Kylin event.

[scarlet hazel]

Yoto hime is from onmoyougi right

[lyric idol]

Yo i just saw that sis. But something dosent sit with me right. As far as ik inor gave akos plans of his enemies to help him. So what is right or wrong?

[strong lance]

There is a saying that Yoto Hime was summoned by Kurumi from another world

[strong lance]

yes

[burnt zenith]

Nono, the heart emote switches between them

[lyric idol]

Nahh u can see the hearts with them to eachother

[burnt zenith]

That’s what I’m saying. The heart emote went form him to her

As in it’s mutual 😂

[lyric idol]

Yess

They are still in love

[obsidian frigate]

Character Bio : Zai Ji

[simple python]

Yall why is shayol a thief

[obsidian frigate]

[noble finch]

This season is all about the anti versions of heros, like an alternate reality.
Since Shayol traditionally brings criminals to justice, her anti theme is of a criminal or thief.

[sick stone]

well not exactly
yueshan went from a general to a golden keeper so he's still working for icuria in both realities

this skin line is more of a ''what if'' skin line

[bleak kernel]

We don't know much about that alternate reality so far, if that's what you're asking.
We don't know why Shayol ended up among bandits in Icuria there.
Only what was in the cinematic about Inor and rifts, and from descriptions of new items from that alternate reality.

You'll find info about that alternative version of her in descriptions of that clothing and accessories when they will be inside the game.
You can try reading the original Chinese version of descriptions too.

[bleak kernel]

There is a saying? You mean rumors?
Then this is yet another reason that Yoto-hime should be considered Helioth's, not neutral - if she's Kurumi's shikigami or at least was summoned by Kurumi in Helioth.
Yoto has a Japanese name, a Japanese honorific and Japanese style looks. And she's a shikigami from an onmyoji game.
Even including Yoto, there are only three Japanese playable characters in the entire game so far. So that's barely enough for a team in Trios match. Without her there are only two characters surely on Helioth side, so only enough for a Solo or Duo.
Poor conditions for a faction war when there aren't even three people on one of the two sides of a conflict, rivalry. 🤷‍♀️

[simple python]

Yes thats what i also thought

[bleak kernel]

You've read Inor's cultivation stories, Spizik. This situation is only described there, I think. I don't know if there's anything different in Chinese versions, I don't have that unlocked yet. I haven't been playing that much in last few weeks.

I don't know what exactly you're wondering about.
The situation was that Inor was escorting a woman from the Crag (Rock) Bear tribe back to her home / tribe in Grasslands, after she stole important military / administrative documents from Icuria (but Inor - and we - only find out about her being a thief when they are already close to the border, besides it's none of his business and he's normally not interested in his clients' problems and matters).
Akos is particularly hateful towards this tribe because they are the worst enemy of the residents of the CloudSparrow province in Icuria, which borders the Grasslands and likely directly borders that tribe's territories in Grasslands, as they the ones who most frequently raid CloudSparrow.
It's easy for Akos to call Inor traitor to Icuria in such situation, when Inor was helping that woman escape. He isn't completely wrong.
The difference between Inor and Akos is that the former separates his work, duties from his private life, loyalty, opinions, feelings, and the latter doesn't or can't.
Inor is very conscientious about his principles of being an international escort and impartiality, so he saw his mission through to completion. Did what he was paid to do, despite anything and everything.
However, since Akos revealed the truth about the client to Inor and it turned out that Akos wasn't lying, Inor sided with Akos and Icuria after the mission was completed. Inor probably considers himself to be Icuria's citizen.
Especially since, morally and objectively, this tribe is worse than the inhabitants of CloudSparrow, so Inor probably had no moral objection to spoiling their plans after completing his assignment. From that moment on he operated privately, as a civilian.

If you want to better understand Inor, consider the work of a lawyer in courts. If lawyer's client is a murderer, a sadist, a rapist, all of it doesn't and can't matter to a lawyer. The lawyer must do everything to get the minimum sentence possible for the client and ideally the client will be acquitted. Lawyer's personal thoughts, feelings and morality are irrelevant in this work and during the work.
Akos officially held a position in the Icurian army. He initially was refusing for a long time to join, because he knew what consequences it has and he wouldn't be free to do whatever he wants and however he wants. Was somewhat forced to join by circumstances in CloudSparrow. And after being officially in the military for a while, he rebelled and is now the leader of the rebellious section of the Icurian army, probably mainly locals.
The story with Inor could have taken place at any time in the past, perhaps before Akos agreed to join the imperial army, but he already had his own local units of warriors with which he fought bandits and Crag Bears in CloudSparrow. Perhaps while he was officially in the army and Shan Yue (Yueshan) was also there in CloudSparrow at that time. Or perhaps after he went back to operating on his own and rebelled against imperial command.
He would probably like CloudSparrow to be a more autonomous region in Icuria, just as for example Hongkong was autonomous to some extent in China.
He cares first and foremost about CloudSparrow province, not that much about the whole empire of Icuria. And it seems he hates being subordinated.

[lyric idol]

@bleak kernel faru ur the lore masteress. U need to have that role. 100%

[bleak kernel]

Haha. I already have fancy "Sifu" (master, teacher) role from the sifu event. It's more than enough.
By the way, it's "mistress" in English. It's rather unfortunate that the word for a female master in English is the same as the word for the head female of a household (housewife) and an outside-of-marriage lover of a husband, but someone came up with this idea and decided to do so in this language. 🤣
In Polish it's "mistrzyni" as opposed to male or neutral "mistrz".

By the way 2, I saw an article today about Khara Khoto. I thought maybe it was one of the inspirations for Plumed Castle / Holoroth in Naraka. 🤔 There isn't much on English wikipedia, but it's still interesting to read.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khara-Khoto
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhongyuan Zhongzhou - Centralis in Naraka (central province of Icuria)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Barbarians

[clever girder]

Sooo, if I understand the Reversal lore right, Shayol is something like an outlaw, previously was some kind of Golden Keeper or something similar, but now is more like a Robin Hood style character.

[sick stone]

yeah

[full minnow]

Is there some sort of defacto game lore, character relationships map, etc? (Ping me if you answer please, thanks)

[clever girder]

@full minnow so Lore itself is collected by Outfits and Accessories, Playing the game and doing quests and playing showdown, the map is only thing we have, Inor and Cyra would be kind of out of the map, however they both belong together. Anything else regarding Lore is in I think 4 categories.

1. Actual Outfit Lore (f.Ex Zai being the White Reaper found out in her debut outfit)

2. Bonus Outfit Lore (f.ex Zai being the Black Reaper, found out in her Halloween skin)

3. Level Up Lore (as the name says, by doing the level up quest you unlock pieces of lore)

4. Showdown Lore (this is mostly lore of the „current“ time since showdown plays at a more current time than the Battle Royale)

[clever girder]

And I think Lyam Liu is somehow related to Tarka (maybe a cousin or something like that) or atleast both are of the more prestigious families Liu and Ji

[full minnow]

Neat-o

Is there some place one could read it all in one big thing? Like wiki and such

[sick stone]

tarka mom is lyam's aunt

[clever girder]

Our beloved @obsidian frigate makes everyone’s lore into single pics, that’s the best you could read about different chars right now, don’t think there is a big like pdf to read all at once.

[full minnow]

[lyric idol]

We need this updated

@bleak kernel yo sis who made this so he can update it?

[bleak kernel]

Well, there's my google drive if it's still in the pinned posts on this channel.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1XnfRkuvcQA-vqTyHKH_95G8r5wbaL855
@full minnow Look at the descriptions from the Chinese website folder first.

[bleak kernel]

You mean this illustration of connections between characters? I think I saw it only on the old google drive that was made private some time after I started mine.
From what I talked about with GhostEyes at the very beginning, he wanted to update it or done his own version after he will be done with cards.

[bleak kernel]

They're indeed cousins. Lyam Liu's mother is from Ji family and Tarka&Zai Ji's mother is from Liu family.

[bleak kernel]

Matari is from Holoroth, not from Lunazra. Though she met Temulch in Lunazra, but he's from Canis / Grasslands.
What do you mean Inor and Cyra would be out of the map? 🤔 Or that they belong together? 😄
If you think about that we only play on Morus, Perdoria and Holoroth maps in Survival mode so far, then most characters aren't from any of those 3 places.
Zai is a White Reaper (Annica), not a Black Reaper. A mentioned Black Reaper is a different person, from a different unit of Annicas.
All items with descriptions are connected to the whole plot of the game, beside items that have descriptions from different universes / stories / history outside of the Naraka game, it's always written at the end of the description.
This alternate reality series is in the same universe as the main plot, but it's an alternate time-space of the same universe.
Cultivation stories have the most info, but some English versions are wrong or even very wrong, so original version translated from Chinese or Japanese have to be read to know and understand things. Especially with older characters.
It's true Showdown is more current that Cultivation stories, because Showdown was introduced to the game later. The chronology in Showdown is more or less the same as order in which new elements of Showdown were being added.
Descriptions of places, that are available on the Chinese website, are on my google drive.

[lyric idol]

What is the meaning of my future couple out of map?

@clever girder explain

[clever girder]

With Inor and Cyra I meant that, right now, I believe they aren’t a part of either big Faction (not part of the empire Icuria, nor the Helioth faction) and with belong together I meant they would have a connection like f.ex Takeda and Kurumi, somehow they belong together lore wise as Inor is kind of searching for her in rift mode (?)

Ah ok I understood the „Dark Wings“ Lore Like Zai being talked too, and Lord Chu talked to the black reaper in that lore piece

[bleak kernel]

Cyra is from Lunazra, she was the divine healer there. She was the only survivor of the ceremony / attack and was later convicted of heresy because she started worshipping only Sunwing and became obsessed with that god.
Inor's father was from one of the 5 biggest nobility families of Icuria. His mother was shaman from Grasslands tribe - Thunder panther / leopard. He's the most famous Icurian escort, from Icurian company, from City of Tang which is under Icuria's influence in Holoroth.

Mirith payed Inor to escort Cyra from Lunazra to save her. He escorted her to Embers tribe place - Dusk Valley / Vesper Coven.

[clever girder]

Alright, then they would fit in the current map we got.

[bleak kernel]

One of the items says that after an unspecified time, Inor set off on another journey with Cyra, this time to Morus.
It's likely Wuchen or Tessa sent them there. Wuchen, Tessa and Tianhai "affiliation" would be to Morus or Kama island. Or even another place of Heralds.
This time it may be more like a private rather than professional journey, Inor is even teaching Cyra how to fight with a polesword, although Cyra may have had some funds with her and paid Inor again.
Inor wants to get to Morus because his father, a passionate traveler, left mysterious clues about the Morus isle.
From Inor's stories, we know that the Heralds knew his parents and likely killed them; they were clearly a problem.

[lyric idol]

Current story ending of inor

They set to morus

[bleak kernel]

It's on items from previous seasons, before Inor was even announced as a next character.

[lyric idol]

Ohh yes

[bleak kernel]

Inor's Cultivation stories end before they even get to Vesper Coven. So we don't know when and where Cyra could get lost in a rift. Maybe it was much later.

[lyric idol]

Well know inor reward of saving her will be a kiss

[bleak kernel]

She gave him Sunwing's tear Inor's accessory as a reward, but for getting her safely to Vesper Coven. Maybe it was after the rift, maybe before.

[lyric idol]

Well we all can kinda see in converstion in that she got a crash on him

[bleak kernel]

If you mean the map from Inor's event that I posted above, there isn't Morus there. It's probably to the south or east or south-east from the continent and Helioth islands. Beside that, all places from the plot are there. But we have Morus map with details from Survival mode, so in this sense we have everything.

[lyric idol]

As he already got payed for the job of it

And he said she dont have to give him gifts

Then she smiled

And said

Then its not a gift

Its an extra reward from me

At this point

It was knewed

She has crash

On inor

[bleak kernel]

She crashed with a crush hard on Inor, you say? 😄

[lyric idol]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-anime-yes-yes-yes-yeah-its-a-yes-gif-17161748

[clever girder]

I‘m talking about this map here

[lyric idol]

Welp anyways i got to countine my work

[bleak kernel]

I wouldn't call it a map, but ok.
If you mean this illustrations of connections, all characters after Tessa are missing. Not only Cyra and Inor. 🙂
It must be from the time when Tessa was the newest character.

[lyric idol]

Later all

[clever girder]

Yea I just translated it from my language and didn’t bothered about the name at all, and yea most new ones are missing, Lyam would be connected to Tarka and Zai via Family, Kylin is Crossover, Cyra and Inor connected to each other, don’t know what to do with Lannie. And Shayol is in the illustration

[bleak kernel]

Poor Hadi, you keep forgeting about him. 😄

Hadi is from Lunazra too, like Cyra.

[clever girder]

Yea I don’t know where to put him he’s from the dessert right ?

[true plover]

🎉 | The White Reaper ⁹ ⁹ ⁹ leveled up!

[bleak kernel]

He's from Lunazra. A noble from Red Dove city, to be specific.
It's another country. To the west from Icuria. It has the shape of the crescent moon on the Inor's event map, which is quite funny.
The Tatan desert is between Icuria, Grasslands / Canis and Lunazra. Holoroth's Plumed Castle / city was build on the oasis on the desert, on merchants routes between those three countries.

Well, Grasslands / Canis is more of a wild land / steppes where various tribes have their territories and live than a country like Icuria, Lunazra and Helioth, to be honest.
Icuria is an empire. Helioth is considered to be a kingdom by Icuria (like early Japan was viewed from China's perspective).
Lunazra is a country of developed city-states that are associated together in guilds and have one, common religious authorities / administration. Their biggest / capital city is Divine / Sunwing's city, where the headquarters of their light & darkness temple are in the palace. One of Sunwing's bodies landed somewhere around there.

Hadi is connected to Wuchen through his master / teacher Omid, who was spared by Wuchen while he was a child.

Hadi is also friends with Lyam or Feria.

He travalled a lot and ended up as an advisor for Haffe prince, in Mehtaab, which is under Lunazran influence in Holoroth. He wants to discourage them from war plans against Icuria in a clever way.

[bleak kernel]

Lannie is also under 7th imperial prince Lord Chu, like Annicas. But she isn't an Annica. She is a spy, a double agent, con artist, does a completely different work.
I don't remember now if her parents were originally from Icuria, but she lives in Icuria since she was an orphaned child. Her parents were killed by meteors.
Kylin is from another universe and story - Time Raiders of something like that - but he's somewhat connected to the game's plot, looking at his latest events and stories, and him appearing in cinematics about Naraka's plot / universe. Ziping isn't appearing in them, though she should also have some kind of a role.

Rin Kisaragi with ? in the illustration is from a shinobi / ninja family / clan from Helioth. She was Takamori Kusaka's fiance. Takamori was Nobutada Takeda's best friend, although Takamori was from nobility / samurai family and Nobutada was from peasants or disgraced family with removed nobility (his grandfather). Nobutada killed Takamori on Takamori's wish, because he was too weak mentally and wanted to pass Furen on Nobutada, but Rin didn't know anything about it or enough. Or she's quite evil. She wants to kill Nobutada, officially in revenge for killing Takamori right before their wedding.

Lyam knows Shayol and Feria too.

He's taking care of his family's businesses in Fortuna and Centralis.

Shayol is the leader of Golden Keepers, who are under Lord Qi. Lives and works generally in Centralis, but was on missions in other provinces too.
She has orders to chase after Shan to Morus isle, that's what happens at Showdown's time.
She and Shan Yue are childhood best friends, they apparently had crushes on each other.
Shayol might be Justina's lost younger sister, but it isn't confirmed yet.

Her work colleague / partner in Golden Keepers is Zhi Tang from City of Tang's Tang family. He may be later introduced as a playable character.
Her adoptive father is 8th imperial prince Lord Qi, who rebelled against the former 1st imperial prince Crown Prince Virion, burned his mansion and Daelyn with Justina had to run away and live on the run for years because of him.

[lyric idol]

Takeda is former disgraced noble because of his gramps. U can read it in extreme outfit.
As far as i know from stories takamori just was about to become a demon by being overtaken by furen so he had nobutada kill him by trick in dual

[bleak kernel]

If you read to the end, you will see I mentioned that with his grandfather. 🙂
His family was probably stripped of nobility at his grandfather's times, so in his parents and his times they are just peasants. But Nobutada wanted to be a samurai and trained in a dojo, despite most other children making fun of him and harassing him. Only Takamori was on his side. The main bully was from Araki family. His father general Araki decapitated head of Chidori family and took over their castle and their island in Helioth. He gave away Galaxus katana, which belonged to Chidori family, to Rin.

[lyric idol]

Was a friendly match but at the end he tricked takeda to kill him by misstep to fatal

Rin i dont know anything about her

[bleak kernel]

Read the original versions if you haven't yet.
Furen is what was left of Orochi in the sacred spear that Kusaka family was guarding and Tessa stole from them. Takamori sacrificed himself to consume Furen into himself, but he was too weak and it wasn't a solution good enough for long enough. He believed Nobutada is stronger and will deal better with it.

[lyric idol]

Can u share it?

As i have english

[bleak kernel]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1XnfRkuvcQA-vqTyHKH_95G8r5wbaL855
The link to my google drive is in pinned posts. Don't make me link it again and again, everyone. 😛
I already linked it today earlier.

It's in cultivation stories of Naraka's characters, Nobutada Takeda's folder.

[bleak kernel]

If you want to read more about Takamori and Rin, it's also in 4th Tessa's cultivation story.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ETcGYcYZno9T3_Fh4OPDAOF4_hm5cdIa

[lyric idol]

Forgive me

Here have a kurami

[bleak kernel]

You'll be forgiven if you read all cultivation stories in original. Not all of them are on my google drive yet, but some of them are. Kurumi's too.

[lyric idol]

Will do later

[bleak kernel]

Do it in your free time. 🙂 It's enough if you read just those that I posted, it's always something.

I'm going, have a good day. 🌞

[bleak kernel]

Did you get what you wanted from what we were posting yesterday, MiRo?

[lyric idol]

Morning sis

[full minnow]

Some stuff yes. I wish there was a full on "lorebook" I could sink my teeth in, but this one is neat as it goes

[bleak kernel]

Someone was making https://naraka.wiki for some time in the past. But it's clearly an unfinished and abandoned project. And not that much about the game's plot is there.
The previous google drive was also an abandoned project, it seems and then public access was revoked.
There's still my google drive, for now.
And there is also Leiko's google drive, where there is a short Naraka encyclopedia and the manhua / comic chapters translated so far.
Everything is in the pinned posts on this channel.
If you'd want to read locations and characters descriptions from the Chinese website of Naraka, they're on my google drive, with links to Chinese website. There are no official English versions of them, nor is it inside game, so this is unfortunately the only source for that.
GhostEyes is doing pretty visual character descriptions cards for this channel in English, though some of those descriptions are truncated in this visual version.
Cultivation stories of characters and sometimes descriptions of items, especially older items, are also worth reading in the Chinese or Japanese versions. I don't know what the situation is in other languages; I haven't checked. The English translations are poor and untruthful in some cases, it's the most common in case of older characters and items.

[burnt zenith]

NARAKA: BLADEPOINT SAGA – The Way of Contraries - CHAPTER 5 OUT

Journey back in time with Wuchen in the prologue of NARAKA: BLADEPOINT comic, The Way of Contraries, and discover the hidden past of the Herald's Secret Envoy.

📖 CHAPTER 1 – Read here
📖 CHAPTER 2 – Read here
📖 CHAPTER 3 – Read here
📖 CHAPTER 4 – Read here
📖 CHAPTER 5 – Read here
-# More chapters are on the way, so stay tuned as The Way of Contraries continues to unfold the hidden depths of the Naraka universe.

For lore discussions, head to https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1266668682877206569

[hot canyon]

naraka wiki is not abandoned, just the wiki with pages

pantheon is used for tournaments and updated

maps are updated

[lyric idol]

@bleak kernel sis i cant wait. 2 weeks until akos reunite with feria

@bleak kernel i know i think for sure we gonna get more tarka chapter and of course zai chapter as the tarka event is the must recent point

[quiet brook]

hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

[mild seal]

[lyric idol]

@bleak kernel yo sis i am gonna do akos on showdown on release. If i switch text languge does it gives the right lore so i can send u to translate it to right lore?

[lyric idol]

@obsidian frigate @sick stone @bleak kernel yo guys i can confirm that akos is going up the mountan with none other then both valda and zai toughter. Which means its after tarka story event. YAYY ⚡ 🔥

[clever sonnet]

how do i get into the lore

[burnt zenith]

Check pinned messages 🥰

[sudden tangle]

[lyric idol]

@obsidian frigate @sick stone @burnt zenith @bleak kernel less then 24 hours for more lore of akos, and possiblty of the ji x chui lore family. Yay

[burnt zenith]

[lyric idol]

@burnt zenith @obsidian frigate @bleak kernel @sick stone we also get more inor lore with a new event. We are getting to much love this update

[agile surge]

so new event explains the inor wan hero trailer

[true plover]

🎉 | Hyper_Drake leveled up!

[agile surge]

i thought he could break reality with lightning speed at first cause of that

[agile surge]

Most important things in the new lore are:

• Akos 's parents might be from Grasslands
• Zai finally admitted Tarka as brother but then he must join her to destroy House Ji ( i think he would gladly do that anyway)

[lyric idol]

Akos orginis are from grasslands.
Zai also found the flower to save tarka. We now know that valda is over hills for tarka. The wedding will be either in the next 2 chapters or 4

[obsidian frigate]

WEDDING YOU SAY

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-aap-shocked-what-shookt-gif-14367869

[lyric idol]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-anime-yes-yes-yes-yeah-its-a-yes-gif-17161748

[burnt zenith]

I need this lore

It’s my baby Valda

[lyric idol]

English or cn?

[burnt zenith]

English

[lyric idol]

Give me 5 min

@burnt zenith i dm u photos from ps5 via capture

[burnt zenith]

Thank you very much

[lyric idol]

All done

[sweet grotto]

https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1417937928264618156

[agile surge]

Lol "over hil". i didnt know English also uses that for a slang

So Zai must be the mid season hero? There is no more collab hero to be filled in

[candid wing]

Ok who has the lore on the new showdown boss

[lyric idol]

@agile surge zai will be mid hero

[lyric idol]

I used the slang as ik from my languge and also ik it can be be a slang in english aswell

[obsidian frigate]

the new boss was once a human named Hakuji, a gifted martial artist from a poor family who was repeatedly caught stealing to buy medicine for his sick father. After his father's death, Hakuji's resentment turned to violence, but he was found and trained by a master named Kaiso. He fell in love with Kaiso's daughter, Kuyuki, but they were both murdered by a rival dojo, leading a grief-stricken and enraged Hakuji to brutally kill the rival dojo members. Witnessing this massacre, Muzan Kibutsuji offered Hakuji immortality, turning him into the demon. He lost his memories but retained a deep-seated hatred for weak people, driven by a subconscious desire for strength.

[dense token]

i can fix her

[obsidian frigate]

should fix her asap

[lyric idol]

@obsidian frigate @burnt zenith @bleak kernel yo guys. Akos and feria story point current end is akos is sitting at campfire with her and she sleep on his shoulder. We know its new boss fight. This is peak ship. Imagine the cuteness of feria sleeping on his shoulder

[lean bear]

[hidden haven]

[median tulip]

[twilit lily]

Where do you find all this info about the lore?

[lyric idol]

Where? Showdown

[signal pike]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[agile surge]

They must think naraka= a hell in Hinduism so the game is a place where dead warriors fight. Though they could have died few times and respawn like you can see in gameplay, the story isnt about hell at all

[signal pike]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[wary bobcat]

Lore Nerds

I have a question

I was under the impression that Annica assassins were kept in check by being sent in pairs

if one has even a moment of hesitation, the other kills to make sure there's no risk of betrayal or rogue

However, someone said the rank of Reaper is an exception and they operate alone. Can someone confirm and send me a source?

[cerulean tapir]

There is technical a white reaper and black reaper, so they might operate separately on missions and assignments, but they might balance eachother out. The black reaper has only been mentioned in lore though

[sick stone]

it might be the case but also doesn't necessary to be so, there was nothing in the lore that really mentioned anything about white and black reapers relationship so better don't assume anything
they were named after rl Chinese myths Heibai Wuchang, you can read more about them on google

in Chinese myths, Heibai Wuchang are heralds of the underworld, working for Yanwang - Lord of the Underworld to take/guide spirit of a dead person to the afterlife, they don't kill ppl

in game, the head of Annica also call himself Yanwang (current Yanwang is Lord Chu, after the emperor gave him the full authority to Annica)

all and all, Heibai Wuchang was portraited as deities that when you saw them coming for you, you know your time has come to an end

there's a saying in Chinese: "閻王叫你三更死，誰敢留人到五更'' - roughly translate to ''Yanwang said you must die at geng 3, who dare to keep you alive til geng 5?''
(ancient China use a 12 ''geng'' (更) time system/clock, with 1 ''geng'' is roughly equal to 2 hours, geng 3 is 23pm to 1am)

that's why if you use Chinese voice ingame when Zai pops her ult she'll say ''三更几到'' - ''geng 3 has come'' aka ''time for you to die''

[signal pike]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[median tulip]

[shrewd arch]

flavor bits from the last event

In Vesper Coven, the crimson sunset bathed Viper's body as if it were aflame. You just witnessed Viper using the power of Sunwing to burn away the last remnants of Moonbane's corruption within her. "The power of Moonbane has vanished. From now on, Yushan can no longer peer into this world through me," Viper said, forcing a smile. She was now extremely weak.

The biting wind howled at the peak of Yushan, each breath feeling as though it would freeze in your lungs. You steeled yourself and glance at Justina. Days ago, you had accompanied her to seek the remnants of Moonbane’s power left in Yushan after the last world’s destruction. She has been meditating here to assimilate that energy—each breath a torment, as if pierced by ten thousand arrows. A thread of blood trickled from the corner of her mouth. Yet, recalling her mother’s possessed body and her father’s imprisonment, a blaze of vengeance surged within her. “It’s not enough!” Justina screamed through clenched teeth. Her eyes, now clouded by vengeance, glinted wildly as forced absorption of Moonbane’s power drove her to madness.

Viper took the Healing Berries from you and expressed her gratitude. She firmly believes she can save Justina just as she saved herself, but the path ahead must be walked alone. You still need to find a way back to your own world. You promise to witness her final battle with Justina, then head toward Plumed Castle. (Viper will appear as your ally in your ending.)

---

A sandstorm engulfs Plumed Castle. You shield your face from the relentless wind and press forward. Suddenly, two shadowy figures dart past. Through the swirling sand, you glimpse a fierce clash ahead. As you strain to see, a dagger grazes your cheek—then a blue blur sweeps you onto a rooftop.

Staring at the face before you, both familiar and foreign, you realize it’s Matari. Clad in azure robes, her beauty now radiates an unfamiliar regal grace, like a princess. Panting, she says, “That was close. You nearly got hurt by that madwoman. I need to catch my breath… Stranger, will you lend me aid?”

She just saved your life.

Justina's blade halted a hair's breadth from your brow. Recognizing you, she wrestled fury into calm, whispering gratitude. Though yearning to aid your return home, she needs time to assimilate Moonbane's Power. You vow to witness her climactic duel with Viper. "Seek clues at Plumed Castle," she urges before your departure. (Justina joins your ending as an ally.)

---

A sandstorm whips through Plumed Castle. Grit stings your eyes as shadowy dueling figures emerge through the haze. Before you can focus, a golden lightning-wreathed spear detonates at your feet! The blast hurls you backward—your vision fades as a violet silhouette bearing perfume cushions your fall.

You awaken to a face both enchanting and unnerving: Cyra, now radiating perilous allure. Her scent clashes with the sly curve of her lips. "Sweet stranger," she purrs, "you broke my fall... Now, I have a small task… could you help?" Though your aching body protests (she’d used you as a landing pillow), her honeyed tone leaves no refusal.

[cerulean tapir]

Valda's father was a part of the old emperor's loyal followers and I think she's trying to help Justina, his heir take the throne. Zai works for her uncle, who wants her out of the picture and Valda also has ties with Tarka

[signal pike]

One message removed from a suspended account.

One message removed from a suspended account.

[lyric idol]

@signal pike but as recent showdown lure zai stopped hunting valda

[signal pike]

One message removed from a suspended account.

One message removed from a suspended account.

One message removed from a suspended account.

[lyric idol]

Last chapter in new update

@signal pike hard diff. U need to use valda

[lyric idol]

Its after the tarka event. Zai isnt the same zai.

Read

And learn yourself mate. Aint gonna spoil u if u so interestet

[agile surge]

Is this in English version? Zai is a customized assassin against House Ji so i think Valda is not her job at least. Just normal fighting , not hunting

[agile surge]

Justina 's father is not the emperor, just crown prince. I didnt know Justina wanted to get the throne, where can i read it?

[cerulean tapir]

My bad, he was the heir and supposed to be until he was killed by his brother. And it was in one of the events lore for when she got a battlepass with them. Justina hasn't claimed to want it, but Valda and the other's are on her side instead of that of the current emperor.

[sick stone]

more like it's the path that Daelyn prepared for her and wanted her to go for it

[sick stone]

(former) crown prince is still alive

[cerulean tapir]

Lol where is he? I thought Valda's father fled because he was assassinated?

[sick stone]

he was missing

now he started a rebel

with tessa and wuchen aiding him, but those two are more like using him for their own purpose

which yueshan got sent to take care of

but crown prince managed to convince yueshan

to help him

so yueshan boarded to morus with tessa and wuchen

[agile surge]

Driven crazy for a while i think. Now he gets sanity back and doing something in Twilight Valley

[sick stone]

shayol was sent after yueshan also because of this

[agile surge]

Man i want to see Takeda in showdown so bad. The part of him and Rin on Morus Island is still missing

[agile surge]

Dealyn là ai thế bác :))

[sick stone]

cố phi tuyết

cố thanh hàn sinh ra mang mệnh đế vương, cố phi tuyết biết điều này và cũng muốn con mình 1 ngày nào đó sẽ trở thành vô cực nữ đế nên đã ra lệnh cho chủ sự giám thiên ti làm giả ngày sinh của nàng để che giấu, chính vì điều này nên hoàng đế vô cực mới ko đuổi cùng diệt tận cố thanh hàn mặc dù thừa biết nó đang ở đâu, 2 mẹ con nhà này từ lúc mới từ nguyệt luân về lại vô cực là hoàng tộc đã biết rồi

đọc ở bộ đồ với trang sức đầu của cố thanh hàn rương cực quang

[agile surge]

À mà diệt thần mới thì lửa với nước bị tele từ tụ quật đến côn lôn ngay sau khi Vạn Tượng bị đánh bại? Chị ba cũng bảo mới lên đảo nửa tháng, thế thì hơi dồn dập nhỉ

[sick stone]

cái đó tôi lười quá chưa đọc nữa :)) lửa hình như chưa lên hay sao mà, vẫn còn ở lại đảo để hấp thu năng lực của vạn tượng thì phải

[agile surge]

Chap 6 đánh con boss cây ấy rồi rơi xuống trận pháp. Chap mới thì bảo là bị tele đến Côn Lôn luôn. Lửa chưa luyện hoá được chân khí nên Nước phải đi hái dược cho

[sick stone]

oh

[agile surge]

Mà Doanh Doanh nhận anh nữa :)) . Mỗi tội là bắt phải đi cùng nó diệt Quý gia

[sick stone]

mà đợi con qdd vào diệt thần r đọc cả thể

[sick stone]

đằng nào thì quý gia cũng có còn cái gì đâu

cha mẹ 2 đứa chết hết r

trưởng tộc quý gia thì con qdd nó cũng xẻo luôn r

nma con qdd trong người vẫn có tử cổ thì chưa thoát dc vô thường ti đâu

[agile surge]

Đợi giữa mùa diệt thần thì phải hết cả mùa sinh tồn lần sau

Lâu ác

[sick stone]

oài nó cũng ra mấy cái xàm xàm thôi chứ cũng chả có sự kiện lớn gì đâu

[agile surge]

Biết đâu lửa up được lên chân hoả đốt hết luôn :))

[sick stone]

như mùa diệt thần vừa rồi tự dưng đâu ra con hoàn nguyệt xong chết cũng chả thay đổi gì mấy

xong mùa này tự dưng đâu ra 1 con đông quân

cũng chả thấy thay đổi gì mấy

kiểu cứ thêm chi tiết đâu đâu chứ diễn biến cốt truyện thấy ko có nhiều

[agile surge]

Khi nào game đóng cửa đẩy phát chúc long kim ô hồi sinh nổ map :)))

Vương triều với chả ẩn tộc :))

[sick stone]

:)) team kim ô đang xịn hơn r

team chúc long có mỗi con ning mà con ning kiểu nó cũng éo care lắm

team kim ô thì nữ tân (mẹ cáo), cáo, vô trần, cyra tùm lum

[agile surge]

Mà kim ô hồi sinh cũng là diệt thế mà nhỉ

Lú vl chả biết lũ ẩn tộc muốn gì

[agile surge]

Rồi ninh vô sương cầm mặt nạ cũng không buff cho thần rồi bị đập chết luôn

Chả hiểu làm gì

[sick stone]

chuẩn, nma kiểu bọn nó đều nghĩ rằng mình có khả năng sử dụng thần lực như 1 món vũ khí

thống trị thiên hạ

nchung cái câu chuyện nó vẫn là về lòng tham quyền lực thôi :))

từ đầu đã vậy rồi

[marble spoke]

For a moment i thought I am in wrong server

[burnt zenith]

Same

[median tulip]

[tawny niche]

а все

[agile surge]

Sorry for disturbing you guys. there were some problems i wanted to ask but my English is not that good. Just happen there is a lore master that speaks same language as me

[strong tundra]

Anyone have a link to where I can read more about the herald sects?

[strong tundra]

Nvm got it in the one the posted links https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SiduXUFcUk-d9HwaTAapls2A4Rn5Ighz8VMTRHUdD8g/edit?usp=drivesdk

[strong tundra]

Not much, even when we add the Way of Contraries comics. So if someone has additional info, please let me know

[dull valley]

[tawdry saddle]

e

[candid wing]

[burnt zenith]

[cursive badge]

Question for the lore community:

How should I continue my understanding of the lore when there is so much locked behind past events? I read the cultivation stories, Wuchen's comic and skin description. I am working on also unlocking all showdown stories, but not sure where to go from there since there have been a lot of events with lore.

[tawdry saddle]

check pins

[rich lintel]

Yo im bored tell me why my Viper Ning cant canonically win the whole server in lore potential XD she has the best moveset beat her with lore lol

I dont know much of her lore btw im just that bored

[hot canyon]

matari can end her entire career

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1175184894381531247.png?size=160&name=MatariLaugh

[rich lintel]

with that vibe she might if china lets lesbians happen XD

actually i cant deny it matari actually counters me a lot in gameplay

her ultimate even negates viper ning's ultimate she phases through it or something lol

[agile surge]

Ning is just an avatar(?) of Moonbane while Icuria Royal was the one who killed the gods

Heralds are stronger than human by a lot too

[rich lintel]

ahhh the more ya know

[uneven cloak]

.

[candid arch]

any good lore videos or series to watch about the entire lore and history of the game?

need something while i'm in queue.

[uneven cloak]

.

[uneven cloak]

.

[uneven cloak]

[azure pumice]

.

[uneven cloak]

hihi

[uneven cloak]

anyone

[obsidian frigate]

hello

[cerulean tapir]

Not many unfortunately:( i wish they had a wiki or something with the lore because theres so much that's really interesting and piecing it together is one of my favorite things about the game

[candid arch]

damn i was really hoping for a Byf destiny lore video equivalent

would be a great video series for someone to make.

[cerulean tapir]

You may be able to find some, but most of the lore discussions I've done have been on here. If I had the editing skills, I'd totally be down 🤣 I love naraka lore, wish it was more prevalent

[uneven cloak]

hihi

[uneven cloak]

anyone

[obsidian frigate]

whats up

[uneven cloak]

is ok

xdd

[agile surge]

The story of naraka is deep indeed, but most of it are side stories.

[true plover]

🎉 | Hyper_Drake leveled up!

[agile surge]

If we take the shipwreck as day 1 in the story, there are only few events come after it

• Defeat Omnius
• Get teleported to Yushan
• Defeat The Matron
• 8th Lord comes and gets the mask, about to unseal the 3rd survival map( i forget its English name sorry)

24 seems like do not want to push thing too far

[lyric idol]

Tarka gets omnius power into him u forgot

Valda current story point is getting back with zai with the cure for tarka dying from the infuse

[lyric idol]

We also know that matari and justina are keeping tarka safe and justina using her ice power to cool tarka off until cure. Knowing matari and tem, tem is mostly likely nearby

Akos and feria current end point is them reuiniting and feria fell asleep at akos shoulder at bonfire/campfire

Idk others as i didnt saw any other new info of others

Hope that helps u all

@candid arch must lore of some current heros is event or showdown charcther chapters

For exmaple inor current point and all is last event

Tarka, valda, zai, akos, feria, matari and justina is showdown. Knowing tem he must likely with matari or nearby.

As tem was with matari and justina the season before chapters. And tem and matari is like a package

[uneven cloak]

hihi

[small idol]

Are there any good Videos on the games lore?

[agile surge]

Oh , yeah, that's an important part . Although Tarka has not tied with any faction or join any cabal, I always feel him as the protagonist of this game

He now finds his sister, i wonder what will happen next

[agile surge]

Temulch, Matari and Justina all have royal bloodlines . And from 3 different factions lol

Now they are getting an alliance. "The Exiled Trio" that must be if they name it lmao

[lyric idol]

There is 2 things

[lyric idol]

Zai wants tarka to destory ji family

[lyric idol]

Zai also give valda info and by that she sort of betray the antica. The faction justina and valda and matari belong to(dont remember which prince) is being attacked hard as hell. From that point i think tarka will go with zai and valda matari tem and justina will go to the prince. Akos and feria idk and also yueshen. Must likely we get shayol afrer zai. shayol is after yueshen. since then we will get more yueshen at this point.

And must likely tarka and valda before separte will offically get back toguther and not on and off thing

Tem and matari are package. They are always toughter

@obsidian frigate

This are all literrly the most common sense future story theory

@obsidian frigate ghost i am rn 100% sure shayol has to be after zai

For both akos feria and yueshan story to countine

[obsidian frigate]

I dont think Shayol is after Zai, she went to Morus in search of Yueshan.

[lyric idol]

I said shayol is after zai as release

[obsidian frigate]

most likely Takeda

[lyric idol]

Maybe

[lyric idol]

One of them

Thats for sure

[uneven cloak]

hihi

[lyric idol]

Also takeda rework

[agile surge]

o wish takeda would be in showdown so i can do katana soul jade quest easier

[tawdry saddle]

there is kurumi

with katana

[agile surge]

i have no more soul slash quest, only thunderstorm left

[tawdry saddle]

pvp it is then

[obsidian frigate]

we have Valda and Zipping with spear so Takeda too might have a katana.

[tawdry saddle]

and he must have thunderstorm then and swift cut

since valda and zip cover the different jades

[uneven cloak]

hi

[uneven cloak]

good morning

[unkempt cypress]

So is there a video with all the lore combined?

[sick stone]

there's hardly even an english video about a single character lore not to mention ''all lore combined'' lol

[cerulean tapir]

So Li says he's from Icuria, is there any possibility of him also being a Herald?

[sick stone]

unlikely

his mother is a witch from grassland's thunder panther tribe

[cerulean tapir]

Ooo that's really cool

[sick stone]

his father seems to be a regular human

but he got some sort of power too, something to do with wood - the last element of the Wuxing system

but doesn't looks herald-y

together they develope a technique that pushed the thunder power to the limit

and it looks like this technique is some kind of a big deal cuz they are feared and eventually got killed because of it

inor inherited this power/technique

Li family might be the last of the Icuria big 5 families, descendants of people who worked for Jiling Emperor in the search for immortality, those people went to Morus Isle, survived and came back to Icuria and formed families that later was known as big 5, they follows the ancient Chinese wuxing system (they believe that everything was made from 5 basic elements which are metal - wood - water - fire - earth)

so far 4 of them was mentioned in lore

• fire - Ji
• metal - Liu
• earth - Huang (Yueshan's grandfather learned the earth element technique from this family, combine with the transformation technique that Tianhai taught him, result in his own technique of transforming into a rock/clay soldier)
• water - Wu (Valda's mother learned the water element technique from this family)
• wood: haven't appeared yet

and we do know that Inor's father got some sort of wood element power, he was able to repair, or more like ''resurrect'' the Thunder Panther tribe's ''totem'' weapon: this bow

[cerulean tapir]

That would explain the nature motif he has going on for him

I wonder why they didn't add more of that into his kit. I've been waiting for a wood user who uses nature like Ziping for a while

[sick stone]

hmm he inherited the powers from both of his parents so i'd say his power is more of thunder than wood

it was mentioned in his cultivation story that the technique was created by using wood element as a ''base'' to support the thunderous power

to make the thunderous power reached a new height, or maybe we could even call it an entirely new power/technique

but main point is the thunder thingy being the focused aspect

that's why he's a pikachu not a bulbasaur

wait a second, are you talking about Inor (which real family name is Li not Wan) or the upcoming hero Li Xunhuan?

if you mean Li Xunhuan then he's a collab character, technically speaking he isn't canon so his lore will probably has nothing to do with Naraka lore

[agile surge]

How did he messed up"Li from Icuria " and "Li from China" XD

So human can choose how their Qi grow? But herald stucks with YinYang

[sick stone]

kiểu linh căn hệ gì thì tu hệ đó thôi, nói chung chỗ này cũng ko dc đề cập rõ ràng nên t cũng ko rõ
mấy cái năng lực của loài người có chung 1 gốc từ luyện khí thuật, luyện khí thuật lại có nguồn gốc từ vọng khí thuật của ẩn tộc
năm xưa Nghệ được ẩn tộc triệu tập lên tụ quật châu và dạy cho vọng khí thuật để xài được mặt nạ bất hủ, Nghệ sau khi bắn rơi kim ô thì trở về thành lập vô cực đế quốc xong chế ra luyện khí thuật (phiên bản cùi hơn của vọng khí thuật nhưng có ưu điểm là dễ tu luyện hơn cho người thường dễ luyện)

còn vụ âm dương với ngũ hành thì con boss vạn tượng kế hoạch của nó là luyện âm dương nhị khí thành ngũ hành chân khí, xong lại nghịch luyện ngũ hành chân khí thành hỗn độn chân khí đấy, nma bị tẩu hỏa nhập ma

[agile surge]

Tôi không nghĩ là Cố Thanh Hàn với Ngụy Khinh tu đúng thiên phú đâu. 1 cái trời sinh mệnh cách đế vương thì dùng băng hơi sai. Chắc do hoàn cảnh thôi. Còn Ngụy Khinh thì quả xác rùa đen tự nhiên có chả hợp motif gì :))

[sick stone]

cố thanh hàn là trường hợp khác

[agile surge]

Thấy ghi "để thoát khỏi trói buộc của âm dương nhị khí"

[sick stone]

con băng nó là thân thể thuần âm

kiểu cực âm chi thể

cái nó tu luyện là băng tâm quyết

là hợp lý r

còn huyền vũ hành thủy, cũng thuộc âm

cố thanh hàn k phải có năng lực về băng, mà là vì nó luyện băng tâm quyết nên mới có, nên cái này tính là kỹ năng hơn là năng lực, mặc dù nó là cực âm chi thể nhưng ko luyện băng tâm quyết thì cũng ko thể tự nhiên mà tạo ra băng dc, ninh hồng dạ cũng là cực âm chi thể đấy mà nó k luyện băng tâm quyết mà luyện côn lôn quyết nên k xài băng mà xài độc
ngụy khinh bản thân cũng k có năng lực gì mà là do dc ban thưởng giáp và khiên huyền vũ, mang lên người thì mới huy động được năng lực của huyền vũ, bỏ giáp bỏ khiên ra là nhót

[cerulean tapir]

Omg I didn't know he was a crossover 😭😭😭

[cerulean tapir]

It says it right there on the picture for the bow lore. "Li, a traveler from Icuria"

[agile surge]

That is Inor's father last name, not the new hero. It happens

[cerulean tapir]

Ahhh that's a shame. I liked the look of the new hero

I liked Inor until I saw how his personality felt like Akos

[agile surge]

Tôi tưởng tượng nó như cái cây kỹ năng ấy. Thiên phú thì không đổi được còn tu luyện cái gì thì tự chọn. Băng có thuần âm à? Thấy trong skin đảo ngược thì có ghi nhưng lore chính thì ở đâu thế bác?

[sick stone]

thì đúng r nma có thiên phú cái gì thì luyện cái đó chứ ai đi luyện cái khác với thiên phú làm gì

[agile surge]

Both have grasslands origin and raised as Icurian. Or the writers are just lazy

[agile surge]

Thì bị tha hương truy sát. Cố Phi Tuyết thì rành mỗi môn đấy :))

Kiếm cái long thuật đế thuật đi phục quốc chả ngầu vl :))