📖┃lore-discussion

[bleak kernel]

It will be interesting to have another character that will be mainly from one element of Showdown, just like Justina is Ice.

[lyric idol]

Might be add fast there like kylin

[obsidian frigate]

After Inor we get Li Xunhuan

[lyric idol]

Who?

[crystal delta]

damn 2 Li's in a row

[bleak kernel]

Kylin was lately announced to join Showdown, so it wasn't fast and wasn't a surprise.
The announcement shows that the next 3 characters for Showdown are Kylin, Akos and Zai.

[bleak kernel]

The crossover character.

[lyric idol]

We gettimg li xunhuan?

[obsidian frigate]

yes

[bleak kernel]

You mean that he will be a character in the game later, GhostEyes? Or do you write only about Tarka's clothes?

[obsidian frigate]

As a character itself.

[crystal delta]

damn 2 males in a row? they will have to release at least 3 females with extremes in a row to make up for the loss

or make extreme star female skins

[bleak kernel]

I mean, there were 2 females in a row, so 2 males in a row now would just make it even. 🤷‍♀️
Ziping just got her extreme hair.

[obsidian frigate]

yes we had Kylin and Lyam then we had Cyra and Lannie

[crystal delta]

yeah theres a pattern

i hope inor Li gets extreme in fission chest still

[obsidian frigate]

what Tarka's clothes...like crossover outfit we got ?

[bleak kernel]

Yes, is it from the same universe or are those different universes?

[obsidian frigate]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiaoli_Feidao

[bleak kernel]

In this new crossover event there is Xingyun Li and Siyuan Li at least. I don't know if this Xuanhuan Li is from the same universe as this character or not.

The current crossover character (Tarka's outfit) uses Naraka's mask of immortality in the cinematic, so maybe it's somehow related.

[obsidian frigate]

Tarka one is different

[bleak kernel]

Ok, then we have Li characters from 3 different universes. 😄

In a short time. 🙂

But Xingyun Li / Siyuan Li is only through an outfit, of course.

[burnt zenith]

Where is she?

@bleak kernel

[clear sedge]

Do you think they will still use elements for powers of future heros ?

[bleak kernel]

Where is who?

[burnt zenith]

YOU

[bleak kernel]

HERE, as you can see. 😄

Here and there, in many places at the same time.

[burnt zenith]

I am the role sensei of the server So I am here to see what the situation is

So

You said you wanted SIFU

[bleak kernel]

I wrote I would prefer Sifu as the first role since it seems it changes the looks of the nickname.

[burnt zenith]

So, in order to have sifu as the main one, you will have to give up on the roles before that

[clear sedge]

i would like to see a hero with wind powers

we've seen fire, water, ice and now thunder

[obsidian frigate]

Temulch

[clear sedge]

trueee

[burnt zenith]

Then I'd have to add NO-XP, to have the rank one go poof

[clear sedge]

but more sand than windyy

[burnt zenith]

SAME

[bleak kernel]

Is that how it works? But then sifu will go lower again after I reach the Santa rank again?
Or all ranks/roles that can surpass sifu have to be blocked?

[bleak kernel]

We have Temulch. 😄

[obsidian frigate]

what kind of powers

[bleak kernel]

Matari and Temulch are basically air / wind / desert / steppe.

Or Hadi. 🤔

But maybe we will get more characters like that.

[burnt zenith]

I can remove the achievements

and the ranks can just not be added

There ya go

[burnt zenith]

I was imagining something more ummm

well, different

[obsidian frigate]

if you can bend wind how will you use it on fight.

[burnt zenith]

Choke people mid air

crowd control

[obsidian frigate]

why dont you explode their lungs

[bleak kernel]

That's quite drastic and sadistic for this kind of a fantasy game. 😄

[burnt zenith]

Kylin grabs people by th eneck to choke them.

[bleak kernel]

Well... he's a modern crossover character... 😄

I have a nice nickname now, I can boast. 😄

[burnt zenith]

It kind of matches the pfp too

[burnt zenith]

Yeah, but...DETAILS.

[bleak kernel]

He doesn't have much in common with the story of Naraka so far, so I don't recognize him fully as one of characters. 😄

He appears in the cinematics, though, so who knows. Maybe we will get something interesting after Qilin's Return in the Snow ends. 🤔

[bleak kernel]

It does match my profile picture if that's what you mean. Even more the background color. 😁
I can even change my avatar, so it will match it even more. 🤔

[burnt zenith]

Yeah, I was talking about your profile picture ❤️

[burnt zenith]

What kind of powers would you like to see?

I think a cloning one could be interesting, but maybe a little too much

[bleak kernel]

I'm not very creative to be honest, so I won't come up with my own ideas. 🙂
I think all characters we have so far have interesting abilities. And it seems Inor will be interesting too.
I think it's unfair that Tarka isn't fire resistant, like Justina is resistant to ice. 😄 Fire shouldn't hurt him.

It will be fun if we will have at least one character for every element of nature.

I also support one of the feedbacks that it would be nice to see male healing characters, not mainly or exclusively females in this role.
At least Wuchen is a support, but... not quite the healer.

[burnt zenith]

I agree. I wish Valda was also able to counter him somehow since she’s water

I know she used to, but I might be wrong

[burnt zenith]

THIISS!!!

Yeah, I would or count Wuchen as a healer. He does heal a little but not enough

A nice male doctor would be nice. Maybe some sort of mage

[bleak kernel]

Yes, in theory they should be able to counter themselves. 🤔 But I guess they are made more for cooperation as a pair in Naraka, since water and fire trigger hot steam and it's treated separately from Ice, Poison and Thunder normal elements in Showdown.

Well, it works in Survival modes too, I think.

[bleak kernel]

Maybe we could get another, male onmyoji. We would have 4 characters from Helioth, 2 males and 2 females. That's what I wrote in the feedback back then too.

Tianhai could heal allies after catching them in Vajra state, but he doesn't have this version of his ultimate anymore. I wouldn't count it as a typical healer either.

[lyric idol]

The element we miss is earth

[bleak kernel]

Chinese elements are Wood, Fire, Earth (as Soil), Metal (Gold) and Water.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_(wuxing)
Hmm, I don't know if we can match one of the existing characters to Earth or not. Lyam is more Metal.

If Yellow Dragon and Qiling are Earth then Shan Yue (Yueshan) and Kylin.

[lyric idol]

Akos is metal by white tiger

Ik the guaridams n element

[lyric idol]

I am an expert in 5 phases actually

Read alot of it

[bleak kernel]

I see.

I think White Tiger is related more to the 4 holy beasts than the element, but it can be both.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Holy_Beasts

[lyric idol]

In the phases baihu is metal

[bleak kernel]

About 4 divine beasts, they represent 4 directions from China. The Yellow Emperor is above them all as the 5th, so to speak. But you probably know this.

Shayol is the turtle, Shan is the dragon, Akos is the tiger.

[lyric idol]

Yellow dragon is center

[lyric idol]

Freia is phinilx

Ohhh

We got 2 couples

XD

[bleak kernel]

Yes, Feria is phoenix - South. Azure Dragon / Shan is the East.

[lyric idol]

Bro

[bleak kernel]

Sis 🙂

[true plover]

🎉 | Faruviel leveled up!

[lyric idol]

Sis

[bleak kernel]

Haha, I've leveled up.

[lyric idol]

Its shyrol, shen , feria, akos

We got 2 couples

[bleak kernel]

Yes, you're right. Though the Shayol - Shan couple isn't official yet.

[lyric idol]

Yes

Lmao

[bleak kernel]

Feria and Akos are official, though. They were even probably sleeping with each other.

[lyric idol]

[lyric idol]

Tarka and valda sis on the ship

Valda chambers Xd

[bleak kernel]

Yes, Tarka and Valda had a physical relationship probably too.
But they have the most on-and-off relationship.

[lyric idol]

Sis its a 28 man n a 31 woman

No way

It didint happen

[bleak kernel]

I'm not sure about Temulch and Matari. 🙂 Matari is probably older than him and she's using techniques of a seductress to help herself in her real work. It evidently works on Temulch too. But Temulch is quite pure and shy in romance matters. Temulch is 29.
Some people have a high libido in their teen years, some are virgins even after 40. 🤷‍♀️

[lyric idol]

Nahh

She devored him

100% sure

Anyways i gtg to sleep its 0400 here

[bleak kernel]

Haha, well, maybe. Maybe she even used him in his sleep. 😄 But their romance seems surprisingly pure. Even for Matari, I think.

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-gif-13618934271232962036

[lyric idol]

Sis we will countie this when i wake up

See ya all

[bleak kernel]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wufang_Shangdi

[lyric idol]

Yours?

[lyric idol]

Also

No fire emotes/rections this seasson pls

⚡ We Use This

This season

[burnt zenith]

Nono, we need a new one. tianhai’s ult wasn’t really that good tbh. I’m not sure how the healing would happen, but I’d love a male healer

[bleak kernel]

Yes, that healing was awkward - probably why they deleted it, but I remember he had it. Now he can only heal himself.

[bleak kernel]

I did these screenshots in-game, but I don't have all these clothes. I'm only demonstrating the clothes and backgrounds associated with the 4 gods in the 4 directions. 🙂 There's no background for the 5th Yellow Emperor in the center... or it's in a different place than the rest of them in Lunar Pavilion, maybe it was somewhere in the past.

[bleak kernel]

Do you not like Tarka? 😄

[lyric idol]

I also like inor

And its inor season

[bleak kernel]

For some, Tarka is the highlight of each season. On the other hand, there's even a Chamber of TarkaHaters. 😄

I like using all emoticons, depends on the text and occasion, not the season. 🙂 I hope you don't mind. 😄

[devout pike]

Hmmm I hated tarkaji last season too

Lannie is the best:)))

[agile surge]

New hero is the boy in Wuchen chapter 4?

[bleak kernel]

No, the boy who is saved by Wuchen is Hadi's old master and he's already dead. Hadi's family lead to his death.

[bleak kernel]

Lannie and Tarka have similar personalities. 🙂

[lyric idol]

Both alcohlists

XD

N lannie is zai friend right?

[bleak kernel]

Being an alcoholic is an addiction, not a personality. 😄
Lannie doesn't drink, does she? At least, I don't remember her drinking right now.

[lyric idol]

I heard she drink her worrys

There was a disscciom in the channal of diss about it

[bleak kernel]

There was about Tarka drinking his worries, not Lannie.

[lyric idol]

Lannie

We laughed that he might trade all booze to get both zai and valda

And that what he did in event

We said

N we also spoke aboht lannie

[bleak kernel]

So where were we discussing about Lannie drinking? 🙂

[lyric idol]

When now or before?

If before

Its in disscution channal

/AREA

[bleak kernel]

Maybe you confused somewhere the text about Tarka with the text about Lannie. I certainly didn't write so far on the channel that Lannie drinks, because I don't remember reading that she drinks.

[obsidian frigate]

Drinking is one of her hobby.

[lyric idol]

Her

[obsidian frigate]

Likes*

[lyric idol]

Here

[bleak kernel]

Then maybe you were discussing it with GhostEyes, I guess. 🙂

[lyric idol]

Ghost u just appared like ghost

I almost died in game

[obsidian frigate]

[bleak kernel]

@obsidian frigate

[obsidian frigate]

Yes

[quasi lily]

Thanks! Sent a DM

[quasi lily]

Thank you too, by the way

I don’t monitor this chat, I’m really grateful for your help

[obsidian frigate]

there was a lot of msg... i have to catch up i guess...

[bleak kernel]

It's another tribe (probably) than the tribe that transformed to human Yushan tribe after all.
It's Thunder Panther (Leopard 雷豹) tribe from Grasslands, it's written in another place in Inor's chronicles. I looked at it again and remembered your question. Inor's mother was actually a shaman of her Grasslands tribe, not a witch. On other items, like the bow that tabbie posted, there's also a term in translation sorceress or sorcerer. But shaman is the best word for it.
Inor's father was clearly a passionate traveler when he was young. He (the father) was from the Li (李 Plum) family from Icuria.
Lao Wan (Old Wan 萬老), Inor's adoptive father.

Also seems like Grasslands is translated alternatively as Canis, beside Grasslands. 🤔 In Chinese it's one, the same name - Grasslands.
Interchangeable use of Canis would mean... Grey Wolf is the most important tribe after all. Even if not anymore... maybe it still is superficially, in name (in the English version at least), because it was in the past in the time of the Grey Wolf king. 🤔
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canis

[lyric idol]

Thx sis. Anyway now i am going back to sleep. Just woke up to drink water and checked discord. Nice suprise

[bleak kernel]

Chinese signs are really blurry, no matter how long I stare at them, but this version probably makes the most sense, along with what we know from the Inor's events so far.

[agile surge]

Thanks for clearing that, i just read it again and saw the name was Omid. I mistook because Wan is called a " half breed" too.

Is he from big clan in "Infinity Kingdom"?

[near dust]

Hello

[bleak kernel]

You mean where Inor is called half breed?
His real last name is actually Li (李 Plum). Wan is his adoptive father's last name.
I mean... he can be considered a mix of two human breeds if Grasslands people are considered a different race of humans from Icurians, his parents relationship was probably a misalliance, but I think it isn't very important in his story.
His parents left him with a foster parent because they wanted to travel as much as they wanted and that's difficult with a small child.
And in what way Omid was half breed? 🤔 I would have to read Wuchen's story again, but I don't remember Omid having parents from two different countries?
Wuchen is the only one, who is a hybrid of two different species of humanoids, but that's much more than being a half breed. Heralds aren't humans.

[bleak kernel]

What do you mean by "Infinity Kingdom"?

If you mean Icuria, it's an empire, not a kingdom.
Icuria Empire's original name Wuji Empire can mean The Promise Empire.
Icuria has 5 biggest families among nobility. Ji and Liu families are 2 of 5. I am not sure about the other 3. Maybe Li is one of them, maybe they're lesser nobility.

[lyric idol]

Think li is

[bleak kernel]

One of the biggest 5? Like I wrote, maybe. Even if they aren't, they're still Icurian nobility. 🙂

I wonder if the Shen (Feria's) family could be one of the 5, but I don't think so, because Feria's grandfather considers a possible marriage between Feria and Shan Yue (Yueshan) as a marriage up, so maybe the Yue family is one of the 5, but the Shen family is not.

By the way, I saw it yesterday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_azLBoKZa0
Haha, I didn't see it earlier. It's a funny advertising. 🙂

[agile surge]

I was not sure about the name ,i only read lore in Vietnamese since i noticed Matari has different lore in English version. I checked again , it is Icuria, thanks for enlightened me again. Sorry about my English, i am not so good at

[bleak kernel]

It's alright. I saw some people calling Icuria Eternia before, so I thought you may mean Icuria.

I think it was the earlier translation name. Or from a translation in different language.

[lyric idol]

Sad thing it will never happen

For grandfather

But happy akos and feria

[bleak kernel]

Haha, sad only for the grandfather, I guess. 😄 Feria and Shan don't match at all. I think Feria considers Shan a good buddy, though.

[lyric idol]

Shan is if i am currect bff of akos

[agile surge]

I think 5 great clans stands for 5 elementals : Fire as Ji, Water as Cui, Steel as Liu , Ground as Yue and just Wood ( maybe the Emperor's bloodline?)

[sick stone]

actually you was correct 🙂 wuji empire name meaning is indeed infinity empire/kingdom

[bleak kernel]

I also thought about that, but Cui may have been stripped of their nobility.

[agile surge]

I think Vietnamese translation is closer to Chinese cause we have similar culture

[bleak kernel]

Yes, probably yes.

[sick stone]

there's 4 of 5 big families mentioned in lyam's cultivation story: ji (fire), liu (metal), wu (water) and huang (earth)

wood is missing

[bleak kernel]

Then there you have it, Hyper Drake.

[lyric idol]

Wood is lightning

[sick stone]

yue family's earth and transformation power was teached by tianhai

[agile surge]

Who are Wu and Huang ? I didnt reach all Liam lore yet

[sick stone]

to yueshan's grandfather

[bleak kernel]

Yes, it's in Showdown story.

[bleak kernel]

We don't have a playable character from those families yet. Those last names only appear in stories.

[lyric idol]

Li most be lightning

Aka wood

Wood being used as lightning in east games

[agile surge]

No , lightning is an elemental in Japan not China. They wont mess that up

[sick stone]

nhà họ ngô và nhà họ hoàng, hiện giờ trong game chỉ nhắc đến vậy thôi chứ k biết cụ thể, 5 đại gia tộc này đều có nguồn gốc từ những luyện khí sĩ trở về từ tụ quật châu
mẹ của lưu luyện là tiểu thư nhà họ ngô, mẹ của quý thương hải lại là tiểu thư nhà họ lưu

[bleak kernel]

Well, we would have all 5 if tabbie remembers that the other 4 are mentioned in Lyam's story.

[lyric idol]

China is wood

Wo long fallen dynisty

China lightning is wood phase

Not like japan

[sick stone]

wood is wood, lightning is lightning 🙂

[lyric idol]

Tabbie

In china games

They use wood phase as lightning

[sick stone]

bro you're not even

sight

ok

[lyric idol]

The game that had colob

[sick stone]

i'm just too tired for this

[agile surge]

Any information about the Emperor's bloodline? We don't even know their surname,do we?

[sick stone]

we do

[lyric idol]

With naraka

Wo long

Fallen

Which is china based

And using 5 phases

Wood is doing lightning dmg

Besides also summning woods to heal

[bleak kernel]

We do, their last name is Shen - Sun Archer (from Yi, who shot Sunwing and founded Icuria Empire as it's first emperor).

Not the same Shen as Feria's family.

You can read stories about places from the Chinese website, there are info about that there.

[sick stone]

họ của hoàng tộc là họ Thân, sau khi Nghệ (vua đầu tiên của vô cực đế quốc) băng hà, em trai nghệ là Dực lên ngôi, đổi họ thành Thân với hàm ý ''nhất tiễn quán nhật'' nhằm tưởng nhớ công lao của Nghệ bắn rơi Kim Ô, chữ Thân trong tiếng trung là 申, nhìn giống như mũi tên xuyên qua chữ Nhật 日

[agile surge]

Nghe khét thật

So who is current Emperor? Since both Ning and Gu's fathers were prince

[sick stone]

the emperor is just.. the emperor

lol

he doesn't show up much

[bleak kernel]

We don't know what is the current Emperor's first name or a personal title. We only know the imperial last name Shen - Sun Archer.

We only know about first names / personal titles of 1st, 7th and 8th imperial princes.
1st prince's (I assume the former crown prince was the first prince) first name was Virion. Maybe he was Lord Wei? He was the master of the East Palace.
7th prince's personal title is Lord Chu.
8th prince's personal title is Lord Qi.

There will be also at least 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th prince. 🙂 We don't know their first names, roles or titles too.

[bleak kernel]

I think Feria, Akos and Shan can be considered true friends, although there were ups and downs between Akos and Shan. They had serious argues and differences. Shan has a much more rigid personality and approach to the army than Akos. Akos, in turn, is very impetuous and spontaneous.

[agile surge]

In my experience of watching TV show, Lord is for the Emperor's brother, so one of them has taken the crown after 1st prince incident

[sick stone]

not in this one

[bleak kernel]

Imperial princes can have titles like King of this, Lord of that, etc. It's the name of their territory, their mansion or their role probably. As it usually is in historical dramas and novels. 🙂
Emperor's siblings of course also have their titles and roles in the court, but we know only about Emperor's sons and granddaughters so far.
I'm guessing that Lord Qi is the current crown prince of Icuria (in the end he probably usurped his brother, the previous one, for this reason) or the position of the crown prince remains vacant and the Emperor hesitates between Lord Chu and Lord Qi.

[sick stone]

lord chu and lord qi are crown prince's brothers

the emperor is their father

and he's still the emperor

he know about everything
he's the one who supported 8th prince's attack on crown prince

they also know that justina is still alive and even know where she's at

but decided to spare her

justina was hinted that she'll probably take the throne one day though

[bleak kernel]

Dealyn made a ground for it, but we will see if Justina herself will want it and do it.

I think it would be interesting if Shayol took over the empire, in marriage with Shan.

[agile surge]

Nghe như nuôi cổ ấy nhỉ. Bắt anh em hãm hại lẫn nhau

[sick stone]

nuôi cổ thì trong game này cũng có

con qdd bị cấy cổ đấy

còn vụ hoàng đế thì hên xui, có thể vì thế lực của thái tử lớn quá nên ông vua sợ bị lật nên mới hỗ trợ bát hoàng tử làm loạn, đốt phủ thái tử, sau lại đưa cho tề vương quyền kiểm soát chính pháp ti và đưa sở vương quyền kiểm soát vô thường ti

[agile surge]

I have seen this in what if channel. Kinda cool

[sick stone]

chia quyền ra cho mấy thằng hoàng tử tự đánh nhau ổng sống trong yên bình

[agile surge]

Mâý cha trong này toàn cuồng trường sinh, huống gì hoàng đế. Chắc câu giờ ,đợi thời đi tìm lại mặt nạ

[sick stone]

mặt nạ thằng tề vương cầm r, sau arc ác chiến trong tuyết

[bleak kernel]

Shayol might be the lost Justina's younger sister. If she turns out to be the lost younger sister, then in theory Justina can gave inheritance rights away to her if she will want to. But it may also mean they can fight with each other in the future over the power in the empire. That would be worse.

[sick stone]

tề vương đang muốn hồi sinh vợ nó, vấn đề là k biết vợ nó là ai

[agile surge]

They have suspicious ingame lines, i think that is kinda obvious they are sisters

[agile surge]

Tề là Thất hay Bát gia hả bạn

[sick stone]

bát

[agile surge]

Bát là bố của Ninh nhỉ

[sick stone]

đr

[bleak kernel]

There is a strong suggestion, although maybe weaker in English. We'll know for sure when the topic will be breached in the game.

[agile surge]

Thế chủ mẫu là vợ bé à

[sick stone]

ko phải vợ

nchung là ăn nằm với nhau r có con

chứ k tính là vợ dc

sau bát hoàng tử lại bỏ chạy với cố phi tuyết

r 25 năm qua r

giờ tới arc ác chiến trong tuyết, ninh vô sương chết r thì bát hoàng tử mới xuất hiện

đi cùng với ngọc linh lung + vô trần

lấy đi mặt nạ, nói là muốn hồi sinh vợ mình

nhưng ng vợ này nếu nói là ninh vô sương thì k hợp lý, cố phi tuyết càng ko hợp lý

giả thuyết to gan hơn là bát gia thực chất là tắc linh đế chuyển sinh =)) tắc linh đế chính là cái ông vua tìm kiếm thuật trường sinh mà cho xây map long ẩn động thiên, r phái nhiều luyện khí sĩ tới tụ quật châu phối hợp với ẩn tộc thông giáo nghiên cứu hồi sinh phù tang thần thụ, nhưng k làm dc mà lại tạo ra quỷ đằng gây đại họa biến tụ quật châu thành ra như bây giờ

và ng vợ mà ổng muốn hs là ngọc thái chân, chị gái ngọc linh lung, xác đang bị trấn dưới trận pháp trong map long ẩn động thiên

hiện giờ map long ẩn động thiên mở ra cũng chính vì bát hoàng tử cho khai quật, đồng thời cầm mặt nạ tới map này tìm cách hồi sinh ''ái thê''

[agile surge]

Cái này mới mà nghe hợp lý quá

[sick stone]

thật ra cũng k hẳn, nchung có nhiều chi tiết có thể giải nghĩa theo nhiều cách
trong cốt truyện tu hành tướng thiên hải, arc ác chiến trong tuyết có nói bát hoàng tử có diện mạo ''trông có phần giống với viêm vũ đế'', nhưng nếu nói viêm vũ đế có diện mạo giống tắc linh đế (tổ tiên) cũng hợp lý mà nói giống với hoàng đế/hoàng tử hiện tại (hậu duệ) thì cũng hợp lý
hay là nói bát gia cầm mặt nạ tới long ẩn động thiên vì bát gia chính là tắc linh đế chuyển sinh thì quá hợp lý, nhưng nếu nói hắn tới long ẩn động thiên vì hắn đọc được ghi chép về hành trình cầu trường sinh của tắc linh đế và muốn dựa vào đó để hồi sinh người chết thì cũng hợp lý

[mystic palm]

https://tenor.com/view/jpj-frightnight-vampire-getback-stayaway-gif-26434143

[burnt zenith]

Lmao

[obsidian frigate]

Character Bio : Takeda Nobutada

[lyric idol]

@obsidian frigate remember ur promise about who is next

[quasi lily]

[bleak kernel]

@main sky
Feria and Akos landed together on Morus, it seems, if you read Showdown stories. It's actually weird that Akos will be added only now.

In the last Showdown story of Viper... the other person is probably Justina? 🤔 But Justina doesn't have a story in that place yet and she joined Showdown only recently in this season. More stories will be added to current places or the continuation will be in stories of new, next places.
New characters tend to join in the order in which they want to present the course of events to us.

[wary bobcat]

Shayol is in Showdown too

According to the Cultivation stories at least

Meanwhile Takeda completely forgotten

[lyric idol]

Got sepertead

[strong lance]

Inor Wan note: Anyway, I'm a tough guy—as long as Cyra is warm, that's all that matters.

[obsidian frigate]

Bro is in Love

[burnt zenith]

[lyric idol]

Leak?

Leak??????

[obsidian frigate]

so Cynor

[lyric idol]

Leakk???

@obsidian frigate ???

[obsidian frigate]

its in game bro, the event

[lyric idol]

Ohhh

Event lokk

Look

Ok

@bleak kernel sis we got confirmed

Inor is in love with cyra

Nice finding in work break

Which ended

See ya all later

[burnt zenith]

He cares about her and wants to protect her

[strong lance]

It is also unclear whether this is a romantic relationship or simply consideration for the employer.

But Inor really understands and sympathizes with Cyra.

[obsidian frigate]

Will he write the same if it was Takeda sitting there. *Inor Wan note: Anyway, I'm a tough guy—as long as Takeda is warm, that's all that matters. *

@strong lance @burnt zenith cares and wants to protect huh!

[burnt zenith]

LMFAO

BROMANCE

[obsidian frigate]

Cyra beamed like 15 guys into non existence ..i think Inor should be the one who need protection.

[hot canyon]

there are big reasons to date cyra i guess

[burnt zenith]

She’s a sweetheart

[hot canyon]

very OP and always in the meta

[strong lance]

if it is Krumi

[obsidian frigate]

[strong lance]

So Inor dropped her into the Rift.

Then found another Cyra in a parallel universe.

[obsidian frigate]

Cyra definitely gonna give him 1 star rating and a bad review.

[strong lance]

The old Cyra was too fierce, so replaced with a new one.

[obsidian frigate]

the one he got is even crazier. 😂

he travelled all around world and universe then finally thought Cyra was the one.

[strong lance]

Inor Wan note: ~~Anyway, I'm a tough guy—but Takeda is also a tough guy,as long as myself is warm, that's all that matters. ~~

[obsidian frigate]

No love

[burnt zenith]

[crystal delta]

aren't tarka and takeda the bromance ones?

[obsidian frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/shhh-shush-silence-nose-gif-17895433

Valda must be close by

[crystal delta]

oh

i mean... totally, inor and takeda are bromancers

tarka is 100% given to valda

[obsidian frigate]

I agree

[crystal delta]

tianhai wuchen buddy cop story when

[crystal delta]

it doesn't matter, the die has been cast. the fandom shall decide their fate. (romance novel stories incoming)

[obsidian frigate]

I already have the perfect name for them #Cynor

[lyric idol]

Ghost u like the ship?

[bleak kernel]

Yes, Shayol's already there too. She talked with Tianhai on Morus and is chasing after Shan. But we don't know when she will join Showdown.

[bleak kernel]

Fugui translated just one neutral sentence from the picture.
Maybe Inor is just gallant towards women. 🙃

[bleak kernel]

It doesn't really sound that good. 😅 😂
Maybe Inra? Eh, no, also weird. 😄 I am not a fan of mashing couples names into one name. 😄

[bleak kernel]

Tianhai and Wuchen are more like enemies so far.

[obsidian frigate]

WDYM Cynor is the best XD

[bleak kernel]

It sounds like a name for their son, at best. 😄

[obsidian frigate]

Just joking though i do not support any couple.

[bleak kernel]

You're a villainous valentine and don't want any of them to be together? 😄

[bleak kernel]

@lyric idol ->

[obsidian frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/sts-saving-throw-show-tempting-fate-gina-devivo-i-just-want-love-gif-13867645

[bleak kernel]

Jealous? Don't worry, sooner or later someone will find you too. And turn your life upside down. Or if not, at least you won't have problems related to a relationship. That's always a lot of problems less in life. 😄

Think of Inor, searching for one woman with such difficulty. And even if he finds her and they get together, what then? She'll be bothering him with Sunwing every day from morning till night. Imagine that. He'll be jealous over Sunwing.

[crystal delta]

frienemies

[bleak kernel]

There's nothing currently that would make them friendly towards each other. But maybe they'll end up as frienemies. 🙂 Or not.
They don't cooperate with each other. They have different plans and goals.

I'm wondering, though, if Tianhai isn't somehow related to Wuchen's unknown Herald father. Or maybe he is him himself. But that would need a complicated story, how they both could not know.

[obsidian frigate]

also imagine a dude who is traveling all the world and universe and he fall for one girl...

I love her in every universe - Inor Wan

[obsidian frigate]

A guy never draw this and write that in his personal journal unless in love.

@bleak kernel i think Inor need the branch to travel through the space i think it acts like a key or source of power he is able to control his travel.

[lyric idol]

Tarka and valda, akos and feira n inor and cyra is love, is life

[bleak kernel]

There are some people of both genders like that. One of many types. 🤷‍♀️
Seems like his father was like that, so that wouldn't be strange for him to be like that too.
I'm that type too.

[bleak kernel]

He wrote about meeting Kurumi too. He wasn't escorting her, though, so he has spent a lot less time with her than with Cyra.

[bleak kernel]

Aegis tree definitely has something to do with the rifts. I think the golden-purple hourglass may be an artifact related to travelling through the rifts.

[obsidian frigate]

that look like something Cyra gave him.

[bleak kernel]

What about Matari and Temulch? 🙂

[obsidian frigate]

nah its not that...

[lyric idol]

Ohhh thats godly

[bleak kernel]

The hourglass? I think he rather has it from the Rift Dealer.

[lyric idol]

Not life xd

[obsidian frigate]

the color of that hourglass resamples Moonbane and sunwing.

[bleak kernel]

Yes, because it's apparently Yin-Yang hourglass.

Yin in Naraka universe is purple, not black.

[obsidian frigate]

and when it was gold he was alone and looking for a way to find the Cyra and when its pruple he had the Other Cyra with him.

[bleak kernel]

When purple is up then he's probably in the opposite universe. Maybe Moonbane had an advantage there.

While in the universe we know Sunwing had advantage and 9 bodies. But was shot down by human Yi.

Maybe there's also a 3rd neutral universe in between those two. If there are only 3 alternative universes.

[obsidian frigate]

He doesn’t interfere with anything until he sees the branch appear a phenomenon that seems to only occur when the usual dynamics are reversed. Like Justina and Viper, or Shayol and Yueshan it’s when opposites collide that this anomaly reveals itself.

It seems he can't leave the universe he's in without the branch he has to wait for it to appear. But when it does, he knows exactly where to be to.

[bleak kernel]

There are twigs in our universe too. Not only in rift traversal, but in survival mode on normal maps too.
We will surely soon get answers to the riddles related to this grown Aegis tree in one of the realities and it's twigs that are scattered in alternate realities. For now, we can speculate everything, but we don't really know.

[bleak kernel]

@crystal delta Another fun fact I can add - Cyra's actual name is Sheila, not Cyra.
It's an Irish name, not a Greek name, that is in turn from old Roman / Latin name. It means heavenly. They could decide on that just because she's stylized with an image of a saintess, without other reasons.
Latin was the most known language around the whole "civilized" world in it's time. The Roman Empire, with it's territory alone, extended a little into Africa and a little into Asia during it's greatest extent. Greek was also widely known. Someone doesn't have to be Greek at all to have a name from old Greek. 🙂 In my country there are a lot of old names used for centuries from Latin or Greek. My husband has a name from Greek, although it's our, polonized version. I have a name from Latin. 😄 They're still present around the world, not only around Europe. Latin and Greek are used in international science and history.

Justina is another Latin / Roman name in English Naraka. In the original version it's a completely different name in her case. It doesn't even have similar meaning.

[crystal delta]

Sheila doesn't say much to me, that's probably a translation issue. Also Cyra makes more sense because it means "Lord" or "light" in Greek and Persian. Also I don't wanna post screenshots cause I believe it's painfully obvious, but Cyra references ancient Greek style as much as one can. And yes, Justina does have a Roman name, but nothing in her looks or lore implies being Roman, she's just named that way. Cyra on the other hand is literally a Greek temple priestess and looks like a "european" more than any other character

[bleak kernel]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheila

[crystal delta]

the official name is Cyra, asians are known to pronounce our "L" as "R" and the opposite.

[bleak kernel]

The official name is Sheila. Names in the English version are different and some choices are weird, to be honest.

[crystal delta]

please, it's not.

[bleak kernel]

The Chinese version is the official, original version. You can check it in Chinese version. I'm telling you, because I do the translations and I saw that, so I can share it.

[crystal delta]

it still doesn't matter

[bleak kernel]

Eh, think what you want about her name. 🙂
I'm sure you know Romans copied a lot of things from Greeks, not only their gods. They were copying from every culture they took over.

[crystal delta]

no one in their right mind would look at this and not immediately say "ancient greece"

Romans were Greeks, let's not start this talk, this is a game lore thread

[bleak kernel]

Romans weren't only Greeks. I think it could offense some real Greeks to tell them that Romans were them. 🙂

Greeks were among them, but Romans took over many other cultures and religions.

[crystal delta]

Please, you are wrong. I am a Greek and I have literally studied these and even worked in a war museum for some time.

Rome originated from greek tribes, western sources wouldn't help you with that for the most part and that's still irrelevant.

Point is, if you look at this and don't immediately understand it's fantasy greek, it's your problem, the game can literally not make it more obvious

[crystal delta]

it's an offense to call modern greeks NON-romans but k

[bleak kernel]

If you worked in a museum, I'm honestly surprised you'd want to equate Rome with Greece.
In my country, ancient Rome and Greece are viewed completely differently. My country isn't a western one.

[crystal delta]

Well, I don't see how a country that is not even Greece would know more about my people than my own, but ok.

I wouldn't go around claiming to know more about your culture than you

[bleak kernel]

But we're talking about Rome.

Rome's influence was reaching here too, so we're in this topic on almost equal grounds.

[crystal delta]

Nope, you started bringing in other cultures when I'm telling you that Cyra is the most obvious Greek token character in this game

[crystal delta]

no my friend we aren't

can you stop talking about real life lore now?

already way off topic

[bleak kernel]

Here it isn't off-topic, because it's a channel to discuss lore / plot of the game and it's inspired by real life, so it's natural to discuss it.
But yes, we don't need to discuss this further if you don't want to.
To be clear, I'm not saying that Cyra bears no resemblance to Greeks and your culture, but I also don't think Cyra is 100% exclusively Greek and her name Sheila definitely isn't Greek. Her backstory and her country also isn't Greek. I think it isn't objective if you want to associate her 100% with Greece only because that's your opinion as a Greek.
But it's alright by me, there's no point in arguing about it longer if that's your view on the topic.

[obsidian frigate]

I can say that the Athena crown Cyra wear is worn by Greek goddess so that also means she is Greek right.

[bleak kernel]

Romans also used laurel wreaths, so that's controversial element here. Romans were calling Athena Minerva.

[crystal delta]

I have no need for a character to represent my culture in a Chinese martial arts game, but since she's in, I just find it weird that someone would no acknowledge her obvious influence

[obsidian frigate]

Statue of Theia. Greek goddess of light...dosent she resemble Cyra and the cup she is holding also look like her treasure chest.

[lyric idol]

Guys

Its a game

Names be names

Doesnet mean shait

She looks like greek

Her name is shelia

Dosent mean a shait

If she based on greek it doesnt matter what her name is

Name is always a goureentee

[obsidian frigate]

its is not about name its who she resemble.

[lyric idol]

Ohhh greek

[lyric idol]

So what the fight?

[bleak kernel]

As I wrote on the channel about Inor, I personally think every character in Naraka is a mix of references to different real-life races, cultures and countries. Not 1:1 to any particular one, it's similar in most fantasy on purpose.
Naraka generally takes place in Asia and Asia is big. There were also European slaves in Asia. I don't exclude that Cyra may have been a child slave from Naraka's equivalent of Europe or something like that. Since she's an orphan.

[lyric idol]

Ohhh

Its possiablity

[bleak kernel]

She also resembles some Egyptian deities, for quick example. And Egypt had a worship of light / sun, since we're speaking about it. 🙂

[lyric idol]

Ik

But

And i say but

Her crown

Resemale greek

[bleak kernel]

Roman too

[lyric idol]

Thats the giveaway

[obsidian frigate]

Why dont you agree that she is Greek. @bleak kernel 😅

[lyric idol]

Also

[bleak kernel]

I'm repeating constantly that's she can be between many cultures and I think it's alright.

[lyric idol]

She can be roman

They share resembels

[bleak kernel]

Why do you think I have to agree, GhostEyes?

[lyric idol]

And its naraka

Give me something that litrrly spot her as greek for sure or roman for sure

Then i can say yeah

[bleak kernel]

It's fine that I see it differently than a Greek sees it. It's alright. I wrote that we don't have to discuss it anymore if Thanatos doesn't want it.

[obsidian frigate]

becasue everything about her seems greek but you say she is roman

It comes off more like gaslighting than actual theorizing.

[lyric idol]

Ghost

[bleak kernel]

What do you see yourself in her that must be Greek and can't be Roman? Beside what Thanatos wrote?
I wrote that her name is Irish, earlier from Latin, so Roman, not Greek.

[lyric idol]

Because of the literrly close similtey of greek n roman u cant be sure

Mate

Until u give a thing which proves as closure

[obsidian frigate]

I just showed you a statue of Theia that looks like Cyra

she had the crown and cup XD

also wings

[lyric idol]

1 its a version

N i think its a egyet version

She wear an egypetion crown

Mate

[bleak kernel]

And I wrote that it can also be a reference to Egypt. Also Egypt under Roman Empire's influence. 😄
She's Greek, Roman or Egyptian then?

So we can discuss it for many hours like that.

[obsidian frigate]

Athena Goddess Crown

[lyric idol]

Hell no way thats an greek crown

[lyric idol]

Ghosr

I am middle eastren in origin

[bleak kernel]

Romans have the same goddess. It's originally Greek goddess, but Romans took over all Greek gods and gods of other cultures too. You understand it, GhostEyes?

[lyric idol]

Thats aint no way a greek crown

Half eu n half middle east by blood

N that aint no godamn way an greek of heck even a roman crown

[bleak kernel]

I can't read Thanatos' mind, but I have a feeling Thanatos was referring to a column type. Especially if Thanatos worked at a museum.

[crystal delta]

Please don't start either, Cyra is as Greek as it guess, lay it to rest it's done

[hidden haven]

[bleak kernel]

If we're speaking about Cyra's crowns and areolas, it can be reference also to Jews or Christians. So next cultures to the mix. 😄 Although Christianity started mostly in Rome and Greece between Jewish migrants, so it's all connected.
English translations mention popes and bishops in Lunazra, although they could translate it differently. Some people think Cyra looks like a catholic nun. 🤷‍♀️

Halos around heads were a thing in Asian and African cultures too.

[lyric idol]

I wont start but 1. This is lore discussiom

[obsidian frigate]

So am i wrong to think she is Greek and she actually is Roman ? @bleak kernel

[bleak kernel]

You aren't wrong to think anything that makes sense to you, GhostEyes.
Thanatos also has a right see only Greek in her if sees only Greek in her, that's natural subjectively if Thanatos's a Greek.
I mean that we don't have to have the same opinion about everything and it's completely alright. 🙂

I personally think she has references to more than just exclusively Greece. And exclusively Greece doesn't match her country and her story.

Greece and Rome are similar, so it's a topic for a long discussion. And people from every country will see it differently.
Romans have the whole Greece pantheon of gods and many elements of their culture, but also elements from other cultures and countries they had under them.

[obsidian frigate]

I mean i dont want to think more about it, i always thought she was Greek and Roman was never even in my head until now. So was asking she more Greek inspired or Roman.

or both

[bleak kernel]

We don't have an area in Naraka yet that would be an equivalent of Europe, so we can't tell if she's more Greek or Roman or 50/50. Or neither Greek or Roman, maybe she just had Greek or Roman inspired limited-time outfits / season (Aurora season) and that's all there is to it.

If she is an orphan from another country than Lunazra and we will get to know from which country, then we can speculate more on this subject.

Sheila is a name originally from Latin, so Roman, but this doesn't determine anything in 100%, because there were also a lot of Greeks in Rome.

[obsidian frigate]

dont Lunazra people have longer life than normal people so wouldn't she know if she is a Lunazra

[bleak kernel]

I also wrote earlier that Latin was generally popular around the whole Europe and world, Greek too. So it's another reason that it doesn't have to determine where she's from. I have a Latin name, my husband has a Greek name, while we're from Poland for many generations.
They were just international languages in the past.

[bleak kernel]

No, they don't. Unless you read somewhere that they have? 🤔

If you think about Matari, she's from Holoroth. Holorothians are a mix of Lunazran, Icurian, Grasslands and other merchants.

But I'm personally not sure yet if Matari is a reincarnation, a descendant or the daughter of Aquila herself, who just lives for a very long time for some reason.

[obsidian frigate]

she has an outfit with that name.

[bleak kernel]

Yes, but every successor to the original daughter of Aquila is the next / current daughter of Aquila.

[obsidian frigate]

i dont know its description thought

[bleak kernel]

The new winter outfit from Rift Traversal has an interesting description. Makes me think that Matari may be a reincarnation and a descendant of the original / first daughter of Aquila at the same time. But I'm not sure.

Maybe Temulch is also a reincarnation of the Grey Wolf king? 🤔

The bad karma between them would make them lovers despite obstacles in this life? That would be creative, dramatic and romantic. 😄

So, what do you think about this possibility, @obsidian frigate? 🙂

[obsidian frigate]

past life enemies lovers in this life....

[bleak kernel]

Yes, something like that. But I'm not excluding other possibilities too.

The most mysterious detail known to us at the moment is about Lord Qi, I think, not Matari.
tabbie was also writing about it in Vietnamese.

[obsidian frigate]

Lord Qi I have nothing good to say about him.

except maybe he is treating Shayol well for what ever reason.

and is letting Justina do what ever she wants even though he knows where she is and all. Also didnt he beat up Viper ? from whom did Justina save Viper.

[bleak kernel]

I was writing about this with tabbie on this channel a while ago.
One of the descriptions of Perdoria has a strange enigmatic reference to Lord Qi at the very end.
He has, or had, the mask in his possession and wants to resurrect wife with it... but who exactly? And what does that mean? That he's the reincarnation of Jiling or Yaqizi and wants to resurrect Taizhen Yu? Or maybe he wants to resurrect Aconita Ning? Or he had another wife?
And what is he suddenly doing in Perdoria, if he should be in Centralis?
The previous crown prince should have been around there at the time, not Lord Qi. Or they met around there, perhaps.

[bleak kernel]

It's Emperor who lets Justina be so far (because of the changed horoscope by Daelyn, so he thinks she isn't a threat to him and the imperial throne). Lord Qi seems to not be higher than him in power so far, so he can't openly oppose him yet.

[sick stone]

ofc he gonna treat shayol well, so she would stand on his side or at least became a valuable hostage if crown prince manage to come back

in the end it's all wuchen and tessa's work

those 2 was in literally every big events that happened in 100 years recently

[bleak kernel]

Well, yes, Wuchen is the biggest and main schemer.
Tessa sometimes helps him, sometimes teases him and makes problems for him. Basically, she does whatever she pleases.

[sick stone]

she do got her mission of resurrecting sunwing, given by her mother
wuchen are forced to help her bcoz nuxin still holding a part of his soul

and now that omnius was defeated, nuxin are free

she walked icuria

tessa about to get some scolding

[obsidian frigate]

When did Wuchen and Tessa stop aging

[bleak kernel]

@obsidian frigate @lyric idol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atenism
I wanted to add one link to the previous discussion. I couldn't find it earlier. You probably won't see it if I add it to older messages.

[bleak kernel]

Probably when they have reached biological maturity.
I mean, they probably do age, but it isn't visible. Heralds are like a species that is immortal by old age, but can die by other reasons.

[sick stone]

tessa is about 98 yrs old, wuchen is likely 300+

monk is like 500+

monk does looks older than wuchen

so probably it's just like

they don't stop aging, they just age very slowly, like 500 years old with them is like 30 in human age

[bleak kernel]

Didn't Wuchen and Tessa meet on Kama when they were both very young?

[obsidian frigate]

A Curse then ?

[sick stone]

eh no

it's just their biology

[bleak kernel]

No, not a curse. It's a species that don't die by old age.

They aren't humans.

They are just humanoids. Like elves in other fantasy universes.

[sick stone]

they don't even die if their physical body got destroyed but their soul still remain

[bleak kernel]

For example there are meduses in real world like that. They don't die of old age either.

I remember Nuxin mentions that Tessa run away from Kama to Morus by age of 8 or 9. Wuchen is then tortured by Omnius, because he let her escape.

[sick stone]

that is correct

tessa escaped when she was 8

[bleak kernel]

Wuchen was only a teen by then, wasn't he?

[sick stone]

by then wuchen is already a warden

[bleak kernel]

Well, I don't know how long he lived by that time. I don't remember if it's stated in the comic.

[sick stone]

just can't rely on their appearance to tell their age

for example on the comic tessa does looks like a 8 yrs old girl and she's indeed 8 at that time
but wuchen looks like he's 15 but he certaintly isn't

[bleak kernel]

It's true, we don't know how fast or slowly their age visually. Even more in half-human, half-Herald case of Wuchen. Maybe Wuchen isn't even immortal like Heralds, but just very, very long-lived.

[sick stone]

also wuchen is a halfbreed

[bleak kernel]

That's what I just wrote above. 😄

[obsidian frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-yoda-drink-drinking-star-wars-the-mandalorian-gif-17050688110509314272

[sick stone]

now that i think of it

nuxin is responsible for literally everything happens in the past 100 years

[bleak kernel]

Maybe even much longer in the past.

Maybe the birth of Wuchen itself was one of Nuxin's plans.

[obsidian frigate]

Wuchen is working for the bad side but not evil because he is plotting something else ?

[sick stone]

well to be fair wuchen kinda want to flip this world over

it's literally on his dialogue

[bleak kernel]

Wuchen is working for his side, which he thinks is the best.
He's working behind backs of all his allies and enemies.

All his allies aren't his true allies and all his enemies aren't his true enemies either. It's complicated, I guess.

He has a completely different goal than Tianhai. So they aren't friends, even though they are both Omnius' enemies in truth.

[sick stone]

interesting thing is he and even tessa could take the mask any moment but they didn't do that

instead focusing on nuxin' plan of ressurecting sunwing

[obsidian frigate]

I wonder what the reversal story of Wuchen and Tessa would be. Or will there be any significance to the current Naraka Lore with this Inor's ability.

[sick stone]

idk if they can be even considered canon

from what i see inor doesn't have the power of opening rifts

the power comes from something else

[bleak kernel]

"天通元君
玉玲瓏不喜歡別人對她指手畫腳,她不喜歡隱族的計劃、不喜歡母親的安排、不喜歡無塵的提醒。
玉玲瓏只喜歡做一種事:她認為有趣的事。
“自然而然,才與天通”。"

That's Tessa's first cultivation text.

[sick stone]

i know, but nevertheless she's still doing the works of resurrecting sunwing

she did follows her mother's plan to a certain degree, not ditching it all

and now with nuxin being free

sht about to get real

tessa is like ''fineee i'll do the job but let me have fun while doing it''

[bleak kernel]

I also think Inor may not have any ability related to rifts on his own, he might be just using the rifts like all other characters can too - in Rift Traversal.

[sick stone]

inor's father ability is more interesting to me

[bleak kernel]

And according to the videos, rifts in space-time are happening because of some disruptions of Yin and Yang. Aegis tree is also naturally related to that. Probably ressurection of one of Sunwing's bodies done by Wuchen and Tessa has something to do with it.

Wuchen wants Chaos, but I don't know what is later in his plan.

[bleak kernel]

That he could repair the bow?

[sick stone]

Li family, haven't mentioned before anywhere in the lore, but coincidentally the same last name with the hidden clan person who helped founded Helioth
his father is capable of manipulating qi, so not just an ordinary human
his qi repaired the bow, the bow was made from wood, you can even say that the wood is still living, not a dead branch cuz there's flowers bloom from it

and you know what is wood that is lacking?

the last of the big 5 icuria families

[bleak kernel]

Yes, we were talking about it here not long ago.

@lyric idol also thinks Thunder and Wood might be connected, as an element. It can turn out to be true.

[sick stone]

lol no that's just nonsense

[bleak kernel]

We will see.

[sick stone]

i don't want to argue on this because anyone who says thunder could replace wood on chinese wuxing system just don't know wtf they're talking about

the lacks of base knowledge is just too huge i can't even start

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuxing_(Chinese_philosophy)

[bleak kernel]

It isn't about replacing. It's about that Wood in Naraka can be somehow connected to Thunder. It doesn't mean that Thunder will replace Wood.

[sick stone]

nah bro they literally said thunder = wood

🤣

[bleak kernel]

We have also Ice and Poison as elements in Showdown, sis. 🙂
I guess you would connect Ice with Water (although Water is in Showdown separately from Ice), but with what you would connect Poison?

[sick stone]

if you're going by that then we already got an element that connect to thunder: metal

the metal version of omnius literally summon thunder bolts and strike you with it

[bleak kernel]

I guess it should be metal, but maybe there's a reason in Naraka that we don't know yet, which makes Wood somehow connected to Thunder or Lightnings/Bolts.

Maybe through Aegis tree, but I won't speculate now what it can be and why.

[sick stone]

even if it connects then what? it doesn't matters at all when it comes to the context of big 5 families follows the wuxing system

[crystal delta]

Agree let's keep it game lore

[sick stone]

and we got 4 out of 5, the last one must be wood not anything else, not connecting nor relating or anything

and it's certain that inor thunderous power was inherited from his mother, the great sorcerer of thunder panther tribe, his father came to her tribe seeking the art of summoning thunder

[bleak kernel]

It's certainly interesting that the family has the same name Plum as the Herald that was in Helioth.

[sick stone]

tbh it's a pretty common last name

but eh

[bleak kernel]

Maybe Inor's father also had some abilities, but different ones and he wanted to know / be able to do more with Thunder / Bolts.
It would make sense in such a situation that he would look for a master in this field in another country, so that he can learn more. Learn what he couldn't in Icuria if he reached the limit of what he could learn in Icuria, because other countries may know something more or something different.

[bleak kernel]

Maybe it's a coincidence or maybe not. Even if it's the same Chinese sign, I'm not sure if it was that Herald's first name, second name or last name.
Maybe something about it will be in Inor's Cultivation Stories.

[lyric idol]

Mate dont enter words i didnt wrote or said if u dont understand english well

I said

Wood phase is being used in chinesse games as both wood n lightning stuff

Wo lony fallen dynessty is using wood phase as wood growing healing area n lightning attacks n alsk lightning scale with wood phase

N guess what? Its chinesse game history time

N also made by asian/chinesse company

[lyric idol]

N most important thing literly i didnt said it.

@bleak kernel

[bleak kernel]

I didn't wrote that thunder = wood too. Or that thunder replaces wood. I wrote that those two might be connected, for a reason which we don't know yet.

[sick stone]

the fuck is a ''wood phase''?

[lyric idol]

5 chinesse phases?

Metal

Earth

Fire

Water

Air

Mate

[sick stone]

and wtf does it has anything to do with thunder?

[lyric idol]

I swear to good god i cant speak with u because u dont understand anything i write

[sick stone]

so don't

[lyric idol]

I will write here

If i want

Tabbie

[sick stone]

sure

[lyric idol]

Faruviel u know tabbie can u tell him what i theory n said?

[bleak kernel]

Ok, ok, I have a different topic for you two.
Akos has such a story that he was found as a small child, under care and breastfed by a tigress.
This is an obvious reference to Romulus, Remus and female wolf, a legend associated with the founding of Rome. Although I don't doubt that in Asia someone somewhere once probably came up with a similar idea of a myth or a legend.
In addition, Akos grew up to be the leader of his province in Icuria, even refused to obey the empire and gathered his own army, so maybe this would finally lead to the foundation of a separate principality or kingdom.
I would even say that maybe he's Korean? Was Akos not a reference to Korea to some extent? Old Korea was known for hunting for tigers and Akos was found in the province of Arbott, in which tigers hunting happens often. 🤔

[lyric idol]

He doesnt like veg

Korean actually possible

They like them meat

But he also like very much lamb

Which i dont know how

Its middle eastren most fav meat to use

I know it because i grew until 10 in middle east because i am a half middle eastren n half eu

[bleak kernel]

It's probably a habit that stayed with him after his adopted mother, the tigress. 😄

[lyric idol]

See about his fav food

Which doesnt make any sense

For korean

[bleak kernel]

You're surprised that his favourite food are lamb dishes?

[lyric idol]

Nahh i knew it

Just say

Lamb is middle east most used in tradional and most fav meat

[bleak kernel]

Remember again that every character can be a mix of different countries. 🙂

[lyric idol]

Ik

Shealia most likely egypt n grace/roman

[bleak kernel]

So just because I say he may be a reference to Korea, it doesn't mean it can't be a reference to any other country where people eat a lot of lamb.

I think it can also be a metaphor. That he just likes weak and defenseless "victims".

[lyric idol]

Explain sis

By victims

[bleak kernel]

Akos thought at the beginning that Feria was just cute, a short fun and nothing else. Weak and defenseless, something like that. He might have been looking at women in that way. But Feria made him change his mind. He started to treat her seriously after some time.

[lyric idol]

In a m

Give me 5

[bleak kernel]

5 what? 5 women? 😄

[lyric idol]

Lol

Minutes

[lyric idol]

Better if my gf wont see it

[bleak kernel]

I can delete it if you're that scared. 😄 I'm not rushing you to answer if that's what you meant.

[lyric idol]

Sje aiint here

Said it for the mood

She wont see it if she open discord on pc by accident

[bleak kernel]

Who knows, who knows...

It can also be related to Akos fighting style and thinking too. He may be treating his opponents like weak lambs against him, a top predator.

But at least once he has already suffered consequences of not thinking sufficiently through his strategies and being too impetuous.

[lyric idol]

Not releated

He just likeblamv

[bleak kernel]

Maybe he just likes lamb. Maybe his mother tigress liked to bring him lambs. 😄
Also any one of us can like something that is more popular in different areas, not in ours. 🙂

[lyric idol]

Welp lamb is one of my third fav stuff

Thats because i am half middle eastren n also grow there 10 years of my life

[bleak kernel]

I'm 100% Slavic.
Had tried some Hindu dishes, but my husband likes them more than me. 🙂
My sister's husband is Hindu, so I had additional reasons and opportunities to try. But some Asian cusines are popular in Poland anyway.

[lyric idol]

I like ramen

Tonkatsu

[bleak kernel]

Yes, some Japanese foods are nice too. 🙂 But we're doing off-topic at this rate here. 😄

[lyric idol]

Lmao

[bleak kernel]

I guess tabbie doesn't want to share tabbie's opinion about possible Arbott relation to Korea, so I'll just leave it here for now.

[sick stone]

i mean to me it's just meaningless discussing about character's source of inspiration, since naraka devs themselves said that they took references from literally everywhere anywhere
back when we don't have this much information about Lunarza, people even suspected that it isn't a country/kingdom but more of a group of people that is under the same moon-worshiping religion, Islam-ish?
now we know that Lunarza kingdom literally has the shape of a crescent moon, and they worship light and darkness and immortal birds
but if you want to hear my opinion then no i don't think akos got anything related to korea or any countries aside from china
also i'm pretty sure the ''breastfed by a tigress'' is not literal but more of a metaphor, though i do know about stories of human raised by wild animals

[bleak kernel]

The female wolf legend of Rome is probably also not literal, it's just a legend.
It's simply interesting to find similarities and references, it's fun in any story and game. 🙂

[sick stone]

also there's many inconsistencies among official concepts

like how some of hidden clan ppl seems to be immortal

even if their physical body gets destroyed, their soul can still persist

and then can even resurrect later

but some of them just straight up die on the spot when their body took fatal damages

some of them leaves behind body, some of them turned into golden dusts fly away in the wind

like wtf

[bleak kernel]

Maybe it depends on their sect and other details. We will see what we will get more about them with time.

...Well, well, we have a big spectacle about Kylin on Fairyland Penglai. I just saw it now.

[sick stone]

not interested in DMBJ so eh

[strong tundra]

Hey @bleak kernel , some of the character cultivation stories folders are empty, at least on my end. Are you planning to update them soon?

[bleak kernel]

I'm updating them slowly. Which ones would you want earlier? 🙂

If your answer is: all, it's okay too. 😄

[strong tundra]

Thanks, you could do as you planned but I would request Matari's for earliest

If its not too much work

[bleak kernel]

I don't have a specific plan and a schedule. 🙂 First, I made the same characters that GhostEyes transferred to visual cards, but in GhostEyes' case it goes even more slowly than in my case, so I'm ahead anyway.

I can do Matari soon. Those descriptions of characters aren't very long. Correcting translations of cultivation stories takes much more time.

[strong tundra]

Sure I understand, you do your thing 😃

[bleak kernel]

So I can post Matari's original cultivation stories next too. Probably without corrections first.

I saw on the old google drive that they're significantly different from English ones. Like most of them anyway.

It's best to read original version too. 🙂

It's great that you're interested. I hope you already read all stories of places. Matari is related to Holoroth the most.

[strong tundra]

Yeah I believe chinese versions have slightly more content but reading both versions gives a holistic view

[bleak kernel]

Just remember that there are wrong informations in English versions.

Though some of them are interesting in their own way too.

[strong tundra]

Hmm I have read like for half the cast but english versions but I want to reread all cultivations including the chinese versions.

I just got an idea that Matari might be a reference to the infamous dutch exotic dancer Matahari and I thouht I should reread her stories

[bleak kernel]

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1OoydsClKbhfQ6MgHVPHyumXKHmBv_85U
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1TkVKjIk75jzny_m8Y7_3mYdEN2by79QF
The last ones I posted are Zai stories, because two people were asking about Zai. I wasn't correcting them much so far, just a warning.

[bleak kernel]

Oh, really? There was an exotic dutch dancer by that name?

You see, it's fun that we have people from all countries around Europe and world here. Everyone will know something different and some fun facts can be gathered from that. 😄

Ah... wait, I know about who you're writing about.

[strong tundra]

Oh yes, lots of similarities in personality even thier trades so I thought there must be a reference

[bleak kernel]

It confused me that in English this name is written differently than in my language. 🙂
I remember now who you may mean.

[strong tundra]

I think its more Mata Hari

[bleak kernel]

Yes, yes

I can write it on the google drive. It's a good idea.

[strong tundra]

Alright, if you think it'll be important.

[bleak kernel]

It's a great association. I am surprised that I haven't thought about it myself before.

[strong tundra]

Thats power of community I guess but you and a lot in here contribute a lot so no pressure. 😃

[bleak kernel]

Don't worry, I don't pressure you or myself. I'm just complimenting a good idea. 🙂

[lyric idol]

@obsidian frigate ma man

@obsidian frigate ghosty man of word

[burnt zenith]

It would be illegal not to have Valda after this

[obsidian frigate]

very much on it

[bleak kernel]

Wait, why Kurumi is Krumi on Tarka's card, GhostEyes? 😄 I haven't noticed it before.

Is it a new nickname for her? Krum, krum? 😄

[obsidian frigate]

Its an easter egg , only those who read will notice and point it. so i know who all read it.

[bleak kernel]

I don't know if it's an easter egg. Fugui also wrote Krumi the day before on the channel.

[lyric idol]

@obsidian frigate ts tommrow?

[lyric idol]

Also sis where sk kurumi?

[obsidian frigate]

we plot it together.

[bleak kernel]

?

[lyric idol]

On taraka

Card

Kurumi?

@obsidian frigate and ghost is ts tommrow?

[bleak kernel]

Yes, read the card. It's the sentence about Tarka getting friendly with Nobutada and Kurumi after Tarka vs. Nobutada fight.

[obsidian frigate]

see @bleak kernel now you know who didnt read

[lyric idol]

Ohh ik it

There is an accceory

[obsidian frigate]

and he specifically asked for Tarka XD

[lyric idol]

Me? Sure

[bleak kernel]

What did you need it for, Spizik, if you don't read it? 😄

[lyric idol]

I read

I actually

I missed it

So i asked for points

To look

[bleak kernel]

Seems like GhostEyes made this trap for you.

[lyric idol]

Nahhj

[obsidian frigate]

[lyric idol]

He help me finds points i missed

U cant trap me

[bleak kernel]

Don't worry, GhostEyes is missing some things lately too. You're both going blind, maybe. 😄

[lyric idol]

Xd yes

Like this

Ghost when is ts?

[obsidian frigate]

yo we both are to be blamed ..you proof read it before i post this

[lyric idol]

@obsidian frigate ghost when is ts? I wanna my inor leaks

[obsidian frigate]

tomorrow

[lyric idol]

Ok

[bleak kernel]

I admit I didn't read this card all that carefully before you posted it. 🙂
You're doing everything your way anyway and how Fugui wants you to, so I don't even know if there's any point in me remarking what I would change. 😛

[bleak kernel]

What is ts now?

[lyric idol]

Tesrt

Server

[bleak kernel]

hmm

[bleak kernel]

Descriptions of Matari and Temulch on the google drive were updated and supplemented during the night.

[sick stone]

@obsidian frigate the letter spacing is weird if not bad, if you're open to feedback

[obsidian frigate]

Tarkas story was too short so i tried to fill the space a bit , which turned out to be like this 😅

[sick stone]

yeah i know

[obsidian frigate]

I could do it again since @bleak kernel also found the Kurumi was missing a U

[sick stone]

you can include some more details like tarka used the greatsword he borrowed from icuria royal

or how tarka sensed a dark force inside takeda

and after the fight he admited that if takeda has used that he would've lose

to make the text longer

just saying, not telling you what to do

it's your project anyway

[bleak kernel]

I guess GhostEyes deleted it, because the Chinese team didn't want it... for some reasons.

At least it was like that before.

[obsidian frigate]

ya...i asked if it could be another like with the latest lore of Tarka where he is reborn and all but i think that was too much

[sick stone]

weird

but ok

[bleak kernel]

It's weird to me too.

[sick stone]

also

it looks like the event channel is more like for people who have literally 0 clues about the subject

so yknow

they get to come up with their own theories

so

what you and i has posted there kinda ruined the point of the event

ig?
anyway

i think we shouldn't ''correct'' ppl there

just my two cents

[bleak kernel]

It's not written anywhere whether they'll reward players for digging for knowledge or for theorizing against what we already know.
I think you should get the first prize, because you deserved it.

I think that maybe some players can come up with more interesting theories if they know what we already know.

[sick stone]

yea that's a good point

doubt that anyone could come up with anything that actually makes sense aside from what i already know though cuz

i've been digging for the past few days

and i actually held back on what i wrote on that event channel to give other ppl a chance lol

i also think this event came kinda too late

current in game inor related events and the cinematic trailer reveal too much about him alr

[bleak kernel]

Yes, it could be earlier. Now we know already quite a bit if we only look for clues.

Others can write about the same or similar theory, but in their different way and get more emoticons. So it isn't like others don't have a chance against you or I.

[sick stone]

would be better if it came earlier

like his mother is a sorcerer from thunder panther tribe? who could've guessed

like

[bleak kernel]

His mother, you mean? 🙂

[sick stone]

if it wasn't mentioned in game

and someone could pulled that from the trailer

when they saw he kinda turned into a panther

when he activate his lightning power

[bleak kernel]

I think GhostEyes and other moderators actually want to get other players interested in the plot of the game this way and the lore channel of Discord.

Besides, I mentioned that Inor can be compared to American Flash, etc. This has potential, if someone would want to write about it on the Inor's event channel. I'm not such a big fan of American comics myself, but I can see how Flash can have similarities to what Inor can be. There are alternate universes in Flash's plot too.
Inor can be compared to both Hermes and Zeus too, like it was written not only by me. Flash was made on Hermes image too.

[obsidian frigate]

Character Bio : Tarka Ji

[bleak kernel]

Or to thunder / lightning or speed / air gods and deities of other cultures and religions. We as Slavs have Perun for example.
We have the name "Piorun" for lightning, which is a relic of this. It can also be a curse or a part of a curse, especially in Silesia. 😄

[obsidian frigate]

i dont get the name Inor though... its origin

[sick stone]

don't think much about it

[bleak kernel]

I don't really get why they choose half of English version names for characters. 😄

[sick stone]

most of the time the name of a chinese character and its english version has nothing to do with eachother

[bleak kernel]

Yes, but some English names are also made-up names, meaning nothing and it's hard to guess why it's that and not something else. 🤔

It would be better to choose real, existing names with an actual meaning. And possibly close to the original meaning too.

[sick stone]

well that's exactly my point

maybe at 24e they just be like ''guys i think this name sounds cool'' and the rest was like ''yea yea it sounds nice, take it''

lol

[bleak kernel]

In case of some names, it looks like it.

[obsidian frigate]

sometimes they give names that match the character then there are some with none.

[bleak kernel]

Shayol should be Justina, honestly. At least it would fit her character and story.
Why Shayol is Shayol? I don't know.

[obsidian frigate]

Shayol, Justina, Zai they could have had better name

[bleak kernel]

Zai is fine, I think. There is a real name Zai and it somewhat fits her.

[obsidian frigate]

Shayol that name has no meaning...when i search they show wheel of time but not directly translate to name meaning.

[sick stone]

what name would you give shayol

if you're in charge

i'd go with turtle but you gotta be better than that

[bleak kernel]

Shayol is a made-up name for places in some books, for example Wheel of Time, but also other.
It can be from a Jewish word, but it isn't very similar, so it isn't sure.

[silk sky]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[obsidian frigate]

My name 🥰

[silk sky]

GhostEyes?

[sick stone]

tbh idk why shayol can't just be weiqing when we got yueshan and wuchen

[bleak kernel]

That word is related to Jewish hell or something like that, though, so maybe they were making the choice with that in mind.

[silk sky]

Yueshan is a name of a town in China

[bleak kernel]

I don't know either why some characters keep their Chinese names and some don't. Daelyn / Feixue even have both / two names. 😄

[sick stone]

i know why
the translators are underpaid

lol

[bleak kernel]

They probably are, but it can't be the only reason. 😄

[silk sky]

True... Then there is Kurumi, also known as Hutao in mandarin Chinese and Walnut in German xD

[bleak kernel]

How you understand Shayol's original name in Chinese then?

I mean her name's Chinese sign meaning.

As a turtle?

[sick stone]

wei is just a last name w/o much meaning
qing is light, as in, opposite of heavy

[obsidian frigate]

I think Shani goes well for Shayol

[silk sky]

I think otherwise

It sounds too goofy

[bleak kernel]

Well, I already wrote that Shayol should be Justina.

So you should ask me what name should Justina has instead of Justina. 😄

Something with Ice or being graceful, I think.

Hmm, which name was that...

[obsidian frigate]

she didnt show any sign of her power when she was born and was also named by her father so i guess it will be unrelated to her powers

same for shayol

[silk sky]

[obsidian frigate]

they both should have matching name

like summer and winter...both seasons

[bleak kernel]

You don't get it, GhostEyes. Justina originally HAS a name related to snow / ice and being graceful. I guess it was Daelyn's choice.

[sick stone]

well shayol is not her real name, wei isn't her real last name either

[obsidian frigate]

so we are yet to find her real name

[sick stone]

yeah

also

consider everyone who roots from yushan

has a name related to coldness

it's likely shayol real name also follows the same pattern

oh aside from viper lmfao

[obsidian frigate]

what is Justina's CN name

[sick stone]

gu qing han, ''a relaxing/rejuvenation feeling of coldness''

[bleak kernel]

Kurumi is a very good choice. It's an authentic Japanese first name and it means Walnut.

So it doesn't fit the discussion, because we are talking about bad and strange choices. The opposite situation in comparison to Nobutada or Kurumi.

[sick stone]

probably 24e think if a chinese name when written in pinyin is too hard to read/pronounce for global audience they'll give them an english name

[obsidian frigate]

Hu Tao is a nice name for Kurumi

[sick stone]

we got ziping, we got tianhai, yueshan, wuchen

but shen miao is somehow not fitting to keep as it is so

feria shen

[bleak kernel]

It's the Chinese reading of this Japanese name, you know.

It's the same name. With the same meaning. 🙂
She's Japanese, so she has her first and last name Kurumi Tsuchimikado in Japanese reading (not in Chinese reading Hutao Tuyumen), the same with Nobutada Takeda (not Xinzhong Wutian as in Chinese reading).
Just like we have every language version of European names in Europe.

[obsidian frigate]

she got all her name good

Cyra is also a nice name.

[bleak kernel]

Sheila is a nice choice. It suits her, being "heavenly". She's the divine healer, after all. Cyra and Sheila are close enough.

[sick stone]

now a question
do you think the event of inor losing cyra to a rift gate and he brought back a different cyra from a different universe can be considered canon?

[obsidian frigate]

hmm I need to know does Inor travel through all the universe and know everyone in there too. or does it happen like something out of his control . since he cant find a way back to the Cyra he lost so far and also pulled someone else . So the universe he goes to are not his choice maybe

[bleak kernel]

I guess we have to assume that everything that happens in all cinematics is "cannonical". 🤷‍♀️

But to understand it better, we have to read what is and will be written about it inside the game.

[sick stone]

yeah this i agree, it looks like he just relied on his super speed to go through alternate universes, do what he need to do then come back before the rift sealed

[obsidian frigate]

earlier i posted the shayol thing, it may not be cannon but in that it kinda like she found out that Lord Qi was lying to her and she is out there trying to find answers. its like the future of our Shayol.

So this Inor can practically tell our Shayol the truth about her.

[sick stone]

it doesn't works like that lmao

[obsidian frigate]

ya...i just thought about it

[sick stone]

we don't need inor to tell her anyway

cuz it looks like yueshan knows

[sick stone]

yeah but like, what happened to the dark cyra

after that

cuz in game we know that inor's escort mission succeed

he even came to morus with our cyra

[obsidian frigate]

so he has two Cyra now XD

[sick stone]

imagine

he pulled dark cyra

then he also pulled our cyra back

but then dark cyra refuse to go back to her universe

what he gonna do

shove her head into the rift gate? lmfao

[obsidian frigate]

Inor be like i forgot how to travel again so i guess you both are stuck with me

I dont think he know from where he got the other Cyra , there should be some element that will track back to their universe

[sick stone]

also what exactly causes the rift gates to open again?

fluctuation of yin and yang and some aegis branches something something?

[obsidian frigate]

this looks like a pocket universe of his...from where he jumps to another

[sick stone]

what's the shadows

this looks like the flash's uhh, realm-thingy

forgot the name

[obsidian frigate]

exactly...i think its all him.

or the possibilities of his...like Neo in matrix

[sick stone]

ah speedforce or something

[obsidian frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/eyebrow-hmm-gif-25634245

[bleak kernel]

I wrote earlier that in my opinion, the golden-purple (Yang-Yin) hourglass may be an artifact related to travelling through these rifts in space-time. And if we assume that there are only three alternative realities, or that they are divided into three categories or two, then the hourglass probably shows which reality or category Inor is currently in.

When he's in purple Cyra's Holoroth, the hourglass is purple on top.
When he's in gold Cyra's Holoroth, the hourglass is gold on top.

There might be a third one between those two options that is like a neutral one or a middle one.

[sick stone]

it's an item on rift traversal mode but the description doesn't helps

[bleak kernel]

Yes, I know. I saw it there too.

I think Inor might have it from the Rift Dealer. Maybe it's related to his work, not only his mission with Cyra.

[obsidian frigate]

ya this thing cant be about Cyra alone.

[bleak kernel]

I'm not saying it's about Cyra alone.

I think he's working all the time, beside looking for Cyra. And dealing with rifts may be related to his work.

And I think that Cyra maybe reached Vesper Coven on her own after all. Maybe he lost her just before Vesper Coven or in Vesper Coven area. And they meet some time later again. Cyra item's description about Inor teaching her to fight with a polesword may be a later time than Inor's cinematic.

[obsidian frigate]

In the travel journal we got the stories are all from our Naraka universe there is nothing about other world. So he never interact with anyone in his rift travel. or they only showed us the ones from our universe.

[bleak kernel]

Maybe rifts started to appear after all those stories. Or some stories may be from alternate reality, we can't really be sure.

[sick stone]

that's exactly why i suspect the rift travel stuffs is not canon lol

[bleak kernel]

They can be, we just don't know the order of events yet, so we don't know what was when.

When and where he lost her and when and where he already found her again.

[obsidian frigate]

then we only saw three universe that he travelled to.

[bleak kernel]

And the story related to the other Cyra, we don't it yet too.

[bleak kernel]

It's possible that those are only 3 alternate realities of the same universe. Or there are more. 🤷‍♀️

[obsidian frigate]

assuming the viper and justina was from the same as Shayol and Yueshan.

if not then there is 4

[bleak kernel]

The opposite Shayol, Shan, Viper and Justina are most probably from the same reality.

[sick stone]

in the trailer it looks like he only went after the aegis branch though

like eh u guys do whatever i'll just take this stick and go

[bleak kernel]

The grown aegis tree is the key to this mystery.

It seems like it grows in Holoroth, though. 🤔

It doesn't look either like Perdoria or Morus.

I think it may be the 3rd, neutral / middle Holoroth and reality. Where this tree is and Cyra is dancing.

[obsidian frigate]

He doesn’t interfere with anything until he sees the branch appear — a phenomenon that seems to only occur when the usual dynamics are reversed. Like Justina and Viper, or Shayol and Yueshan — it’s when opposites collide that this anomaly reveals itself.

[sick stone]

this too

where tf does that tree came from

our tree was dead thousand years ago

[bleak kernel]

It can be in the middle reality, for some reason related to this reality.

And branches / twigs can go to other 2 realities through the rifts.

I think the gold reality, reality known to us so far, is the one where Sunwing had / has an advantage over Moonbane.
The other purple reality is where Moonbane had / has advantage over Sunwing.
The middle reality would be ideal 50/50.

[sick stone]

or wuchen and tessa did something again

welp

[bleak kernel]

The Aegis tree in the middle / ideal reality maybe grows in Holoroth and other places too and tries to intervene in other two realities that stray too much to one side.

[obsidian frigate]

Why was she dancing though. Did she summon Inor wan doing that ? like a ritual or something.

[sick stone]

bro

she is crazy

😂

don't question her action

[bleak kernel]

No 😄

Sister Mirith commissioned Inor to escort Cyra. She paid for it for Cyra to be safe outside of Lunazra.

[obsidian frigate]

no iwas talking about what we saw in trailer

did she guid Inor to the universe she was in

[bleak kernel]

I think it was a happy dance of Cyra, because they come across grown Aegis tree and Cyra thought it's beautiful.

[obsidian frigate]

XD yes totally something she would do.

[bleak kernel]

I think they maybe got into the middle reality together somehow and she was happy about the aegis tree they saw. And Inor saw her dancing. Maybe he thought she was beautiful too, while she was happy about the tree.

[sick stone]

i mean she murdered a bunch of ppl while laughing her ass off...

why are you even wondering why is she dancing...

[obsidian frigate]

so why leave that place.

[bleak kernel]

Cyra is a crazy devout in both gold and purple realities, but she's still young, so she can become wiser later.

[bleak kernel]

Maybe that's when right after they accidently went into two other realities and Inor lost Cyra.

[obsidian frigate]

maybe it was simply Inor's imagination or dream

[bleak kernel]

It could happen one after the other.