👾┃showdown

[amber terrace]

[fierce light]

You can multiply Fireball Crit by 17.5

[amber terrace]

so, how many dmg bonus while exists V for this awk?

[fierce light]

Sounds like it just makes it scale from the Attribute

[amber terrace]

[fierce light]

Should hit pretty hard if it counts Defuse Prowess

[hidden creek]

do you even want to use aegis break though

[fierce light]

They made the follow up after her Skill count as it

So it's probably worth doing that

Granted you have enough Ice Blast DMG. Not sure how hard the Curio itself hits though.

Seems helpful for people who don't have enough Mod.

COPIUM

[hidden creek]

so it's only worth it on ice build

[viscid wraith]

wonder if thunder mark is still her bis soul jade setup

[hidden creek]

wait does the skill surge build take ice blast dmg?

[fierce light]

Yeah, need a high Ice Blast DMG bonus to make it worth

Thunder Mark Lotus, doesn't

[hidden creek]

welp

[amber terrace]

huh? why this shayol wei use Health instead Armor?

[fierce light]

Basalt Armor converts it to Armor

[amber terrace]

but armor attr give more armor than health

this with 15% health

this with 200 armor

[fierce light]

Yeah, i did the math on it a while back

Forgot how much exactly it gave

But should be less than a regular Armor attribute

[amber terrace]

8189 armor with x3 wf, x1 arrmor

[hidden creek]

armor is flat value, HP is percentage value so maybe at a certain point stacking HP bring better stat?

or that shayol just don't know how2math (just like me)

[viscid wraith]

[hidden creek]

tf is this sticker LMAO

me gusta

[viscid wraith]

It was the winning emoji in the last discord event LMAOO

[hidden creek]

well deserved

[viscid wraith]

u can almost do the monk unli F skill from last season

[amber terrace]

hmm

[fierce light]

It's pretty much a flat value too, since it stacks additively and there's no source of flat HP bonus

Max Health is at 2720, so 15% would be 408. Basalt Armor takes 37.5% of that to convert to Armor. So

• 153 Armor from 15% Health.
  -# 408 × 0.375 = 153

[hidden creek]

[twilit thistle]

Does anyone want to do showdown Doom Speed run? 5 min to 10 min games

msg me

[rotund forge]

Starege

[balmy coral]

Is burn still the same on valda since it doesn't CRIT

[fierce light]

Yeah

[balmy coral]

Damnn I'm expecting threefold curio will completely destroy it

Dps wise

[fierce light]

CN apparently using the Flag General Curio more so

I'll have to calc what the lightning hits for, but it might be a bit of a pain to test since Free Training on gives 5% Crit Rate

[balmy coral]

There are curios already?

[fierce light]

In the test server

[balmy coral]

I remember @cursive fable said the season got extended

[balmy coral]

Dang I have to go back

[balmy coral]

So like bolts?

Or thundershock

[fierce light]

Similar to bolts

[balmy coral]

Dang that sounds fun

[fierce light]

They activate from Crits rather than particular hits though.

[azure juniper]

do anyone have some meta build for Tessa in the showdown please?

[wind light]

@fierce light why in top i see backfire in the threefold build

[fierce light]

Thunder Mark Lotus

[fierce light]

Not much lives long enough to benefit from Pestilent Pool atm

[wind light]

understood sir

[tardy swan]

Each character is tied to the weapon ?

[fierce light]

Yes.

[fierce light]

I'll change it to Backfire on the site as I've been using it too

[wind light]

man if im using backfire i need to build its again

btw i see people still use sap over cyan fang

in the threefold build

[fierce light]

That one doesn't make much of a difference

Some Counterstrikes are slower with sap, others are faster

[wind light]

my unfinished build threefold make 500k dmg in enigma peak, boss aegis when its off, full 3 marks

insane

of course im using poison

[fierce light]

You'll be able to use those jades with a future Curio build

The poison ones at least

Will have to see how the Threefold Curio holds up compared to the others coming out

[wind light]

are you using threefold thunder or poison which one is your main

[fierce light]

Poison on Wuchen & Matari

Thunder on Kurumi & Shayol

Shayol has her own version, that'll change with Curios

[wind light]

kurumi with threefold, interesting

i assume the aegis move is faster

[fierce light]

It's probably the weakest option

But still effective.

[chrome agate]

@fierce light armor is bonkas with curio

[west crater]

If it's about Akos' ultimate, no, you lose access to the enhanced martial skill needed to unlock the cage and the tiger's hits.

And his awakenings involve making the tiger strike happen during the scale rush of the central pillar, and when you land the defuse, 4 tigers appear instead of 1, similar to Tessa's awakening.

[rain narwhal]

holy

[fierce light]

Oh 4 might have some potential

Especially if it ends up scaling more than 4x like Tessa's

[fierce light]

Yup, unkillable for sure and her Ultimate should be pretty busted too

Unfortunate thing is that it takes the spot of Verve Banner

[chrome agate]

That’s for sure but I think it can make some good combos for Shayol, and I’m not sure if Zais will be better than last seasons Curio for parries and defuses dmg looks quite decent but it’s not constantly dmg over time

[fierce light]

I could see:

• Soul Shiver, Sub-Zero Seal, Pestilent Pool, Element Surge, Miasma Drive & Basalt Armor

Working, but I'll have to get into the specifics for her attributes.

Armor seems like a no-brainer, but there could be a better balance between Crit, DMG to Bosses & Armor.

[chrome agate]

I‘m not sure about her ultimate, does the dmg scale from armor or is armor just the stat that decides how often you can use the shield? For the testing I went with an fully unfinished build stat wise, just sap jade with Armor maxed and 2 windfalls + Red curio which gives 1500 armor on its own and that was enough for basically infinite shield hits so maybe we can mostly go for crits and boss dmg

[fierce light]

It scales by 3% per 500 Armor (before ult). The new Curio adds 0.6% of something per 100 Armor (not sure if it's a damage or attack bonus cause of translation).

That 3% is additive with itself, but multiplicative with everything. So having 3220 Armor outside of Ult would make her Shield Throw hit 18% harder, plus the 38.4% of the other stat the Curio adds.

[fathom edge]

https://youtu.be/DhrnkwQLSfU?is=ULBvUcakzOAYs6Tc

what the helly

[balmy coral]

While u have higher CRIT chance from jades that could cover if u max if

[ember karma]

@balmy coral

Hey

New to the game

Im gonna try to get up all the way to the nightscream difficulty on these showdown stages

But what character would really be able to kill those monsters

[fierce light]

Ziping Yin is probably the easiest hero atm

Just requires timing her charged attack to do Dragonslayer (thrust attack) into Razor Swift (spinning attack).

[ember karma]

Wouldnt be anyone like Tarka Ji whos maxed out in strength and mobility?

[fickle linden]

survivability >> everything for new players

and zipin has heal

[fierce light]

Tarka's DPS isn't particularly impressive without a full build early on.

Especially in comparison to Ziping's DPS from Razor Swift

[ember karma]

👍🏻

Gtk

I was using items that gave me my armor back

And lwkey i was getting a bit worried id run out of that later on in the later games

[fierce light]

Every match starts you with some. Some maps give more than others, but can also get them through Stronghold Chests from certain maps.

[ember karma]

Ah I see

Well I suppose you could always run out pretty fast

[fickle linden]

or get hit by boss while you use them

and die

[kind escarp]

idk try justina maybe then

don't need to heal if u don't get hit

actually u could use tarka with his poison cannon set

pretty good even without much stats

[agile coral]

LF doom domain 2nd 3rd stage help pls

[ember karma]

Does she have ultra instinct moves or somethin lol

[kind escarp]

kind of ig but that's not what i meant...if ur running out of healing stuff just don't get hit...valid for everyone

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-9403556598434283568

[fair hollow]

LF 1 for plat 2 yama's abyss

[ember karma]

So either Justina or Ziping is a valid choice

[kind escarp]

i mean what exactly is ur goal

anyone can be a dps with the right build

[ember karma]

Well okay heres the thing.

I originally came in here asking

If Yoto Hime was the best for pve

And someone replied to my message saying no

[kind escarp]

why did u ask that

[ember karma]

So i figured someone else was better

Cause Im only really wanting to do pve

So i need a character thatd most likely be easier if youre just doing showdown

[kind escarp]

yes im asking...why did u ask if yoto is good...do u have a reason

[ember karma]

Well i searched chat gpt 😅

[kind escarp]

easiest is prolly justina and zipping or shayol

[kind escarp]

bruh...

[ember karma]

And they said she was one of the top best

[kind escarp]

she's kind of hard to use cuz gs

[kind escarp]

i mean yoto can be strong when used with curios...otherwise pretty meh i think

[ember karma]

I mainly used takeda

In pvp

I think hed be almost useless in pve

[kind escarp]

ill give a pve yt channel...watch his vids and take some ideas...he add builds at the end of vids too

[kind escarp]

he's not in pve yet

https://youtube.com/@flamebane2604?si=vhQgAJNCXzrPXC8b

[ember karma]

Oh right

[kind escarp]

u can see how diff heros r played in Showdown and then decide what u wanna make

also there's a site in pins too , it has builds for diff heroes as well

[ember karma]

I'm trying to make sure I dont waste my 600 gold

Always feels like i have a curse that imma choose the wrong guy

Lwkey Yueshan looks pretty fun

[wind light]

wth is this build

[amber terrace]

lol wan wan V skin

[thorn narwhal]

@fierce light any idea why Noxious is suddenly good? the explosion really makes up the damage?

[fierce light]

That build is kind of all over the place lol

[thorn narwhal]

CN still prefer Thunder dmg too

[thorn narwhal]

i just never seen anyone using Noxious before lol

[fierce light]

Yeah that's weird. They even have the mobile tool that tells them their damage spread.

[hidden creek]

who tf run this

[fierce light]

Ah I guess they went for all the Ranged DMG nodes

[thorn narwhal]

all leaderboard

[fierce light]

Noxious would make Toxin Blast proc in two Poison Blasts

[thorn narwhal]

i guess that really makes things make more sense, but we don't have that

[hidden creek]

idk which leaderboard this is but on SEA top 3 tessa yama doesn't run that jade

[thorn narwhal]

CN, it was odd seeing it that's why i'm asking

[hidden creek]

hmm
attack diminishing returns is that huge already?

oh unless the faster toxin blast proc is just enough to skip some mech on current yama stage

[fierce light]

Shouldn't be running Attack anymore

[thorn narwhal]

could be

[hidden creek]

still it make no sense running noxious blast instead of desperation, unless the setup is specialized for current yama stage

[thorn narwhal]

on the topic of things making no sense, last season kurumi build made my brain lag hard

[amber terrace]

Yo

[amber terrace]

booom boom with crit

[thorn narwhal]

yea i know kurumi's main purpose was to boost her teammates damage, thing is if i remember correctly she was on crossbow the whole time didn't even summon orbs

hmm that looks like it, i guess that's faster than regular way

that's really cool

yea valda damage is insane specially while tethered

wait, kurumi can use crossbow while tethered?
or nvm

ah make sense

i see now ye, thanks for explaining

[amber terrace]

[fickle orbit]

Woow youre speaking terms and languages i don't understand i wonder when I'll get good at this game both pve and pvp

[fierce light]

@thorn narwhal It's due to the omen

It multiplies damage dealt by Divine Thunder by 1.3.

[amber terrace]

nice try

[fierce light]

They might be fishing for Crits with Toxin Blast as well

[fickle orbit]

Huh wat nice try bro

[amber terrace]

that mean if you know what they said so u was good

[fickle orbit]

I don't know wat they said though

[amber terrace]

can't wait x5 fist tarka ji with crit

[amber terrace]

yea

[fickle orbit]

Anyone down to help me out

[viscid wraith]

u're offline lmao

[amber terrace]

still wait they make multi weapon for hero

[cinder girder]

game dead?

[calm kestrel]

Top Tessa NA doesn't run it either.

[fickle linden]

pretty much yeah

[fierce light]

It's a bit rough for new players

[viscid wraith]

my temulch from temu could never

I mean

u can't spell temulch without temu

[fierce light]

Cannon build fun
-# I haven't put any investment to it so far.

[amber terrace]

hited by thunder, not fun anymore

[fierce light]

Yeah that omen is so anti-fun

[fickle orbit]

Anyone available

Big bros and sisters

[fickle orbit]

Bro i need this build

Anyone available please

[signal kite]

https://tenor.com/view/infinitesocialcredi-socialcredit-evolution-meme-social-credit-meme-gif-24881293

[kind escarp]

wtf...just get 100 hero coins with 12k tae or smth i don't remember💀

[drifting lance]

🎉 | OMLANDAH leveled up!

[kind escarp]

what build

[ember karma]

How long would that take

A couple days of playing?😀

Im good bro

[kind escarp]

i mean ig wtv makes u happy

[chrome agate]

Some just don’t want to learn there’s better ways of spending

[signal kite]

Maybe he doesn't have tae

[kind escarp]

should get some from those events

i mean those 160 tae things

or ig u could pick fancy stuff like a fluffy bunny tail which is really helpful

[signal kite]

Relax foid, he's definition of a real whale 🐋

🐳

[kind escarp]

aw shyth...forgive this peasant for breathing the same water as you

[cerulean temple]

Did valda build change? With this new curios and crit rate / dmg

Burn dmg wont be able to crit anyways correct?

[signal kite]

Correct

[thorn narwhal]

Yeah omen helps but they still had it in previous stages, we will have to wait tho and see what they settle on once curios are here.

[thorn narwhal]

CN built different

[thorn narwhal]

Top tarka/yueshan had it, surprised to see it performing as good on single target

[signal kite]

Guess max crit rate with 475% crit dmg doing pretty good with backfire and forsaken

[versed barn]

its not max but it hitting crazy hard

[signal kite]

We are on the same boat twin

[limpid pecan]

maybe u have buggy stat on one jade

remove jades 1 by 1 until u figure which one has .9%

[signal kite]

Yeap shii with me 2

And not with 1 jade it was with 3 jades lol I just corrected it

But i think he's already at max 41%, double wfs with crit on 6 jades provides 36+base 5 = 41% so u can go on dmg to boss and crit dmg with double wfs in the last jade for perfect 500 crit dmg and little more dmg against boss

Oh lol it's his crit dmg that is not max lol .9 just noticed i thought crit rate unlike me

[fierce light]

Yeah, Kylin gets plenty of damage bonus, so you can max Crit. You do lose out from using Forsaken Force instead of Soul-Drawing before Verve Banner is back though.

[wicked pulsar]

it hella fun , it my main

[wind light]

did you edit the poison threefold build in your website

[fierce light]

Yeah since it was performing better with Backfire

[wind light]

ah

[fierce light]

Likely will use Goblet when Curios come out as well

Which gives extra DMG when at low health

[wind light]

other people used forsaken force too

i don't remember which jade replaced by forsaken

[fierce light]

It's only worth on Wuchen atm.

[wind light]

desperation ?

[wind light]

ah

[fierce light]

Element Surge otherwise

[wind light]

i think they replaced desperation with forsaken

[fierce light]

I'll have to do the math but yeah, ATK would probably be worth more at that point

[signal kite]

What about wuchen with his windball curio and verb banner !! can he go forsaken force, tempered force , element surge poison , backfire , renewed vigor and desperation

Trying to get all the atk bonus for his weapon dmg

With all potential points untouched

[wind light]

wuchen with his curio go br br br

[ember karma]

So i was recommended either ziping, justina, or shayol for serious showdown stuff

But Yueshan looks cool

Im ngl

He looks like a character thatd be hard to land hits in pvp but pve would work well wouldnt it?

[thorn narwhal]

why do they give wuchen everything
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNRt1em4X/

the most brain dead curio that will ever be in the game

💀

[fresh field]

someone go inner world?

[kind escarp]

lol wtfff 💀 💀

didn't expect it to work like that

[ember karma]

@kind escarp

Hi

[kind escarp]

hi

[ember karma]

Is Yueshan bad

[kind escarp]

hmm...im not sure but i use him a lot with a certain build

[ember karma]

I saw someone put him in c tier ;-;

[kind escarp]

yeah pretty meh

[ember karma]

For someone that has a skin that turns him into that one mech from that video game..thats insane

Im glad I didnt get him cause i really considered it at one point

[kind escarp]

well i mean outside the ult pretty awkward to use cuz ps

[ember karma]

Ik there's also a guy that can turn into a 4 armed monster too but i heard hes not good solo

Or is he 👽

[kind escarp]

tianhai... he can be good

[ember karma]

Hmmm

He does seem cool

[kind escarp]

u can try tarka if u want

he's cool with the cannon

[ember karma]

Tarka Ji?

[kind escarp]

yeah

[ember karma]

Whats his ult

[signal kite]

If this isn't a bug and is intentionally made ggs

[kind escarp]

https://youtu.be/f1JUFWcQkp0?si=8otxZzDeuAM4bAyr

infinite rage + enhanced mobility stuff

need to switch to crit attributes instead attack ones ig....maybe crit rate and crit dmg instead ranged dmg and attack

not sure about that

[ember karma]

Reminds me of warframe of how fast u kill stuff

[kind escarp]

try him in free training and see if u like him

[fierce light]

Yeah as soon as they added Threefold I had that thought

[fierce light]

It's not, his Curio worked with Toxin Seep last season

[signal kite]

cooked

Wuchen meta

[fierce light]

When they added Forsaken Force, that made me upgrade him to 25

Back to being a Wuchen main

[viscid wraith]

[amber terrace]

Yo

[cursive fable]

@amber terrace hii

[amber terrace]

Hii

[amber terrace]

Sure

[wind light]

i was trying to get crit dmg

like come on

[amber terrace]

dafug

[hidden creek]

what does this has anything to do with ''trying to get cdmg''?

you imbued a jade with 2 rares already

then you even do value recast on the new rare?

what for?

[wind light]

i imbued the third one, i was expecting it will be scorching or moderation

but i got windfall instead

[hidden creek]

if your plan was to imbue to get a rare then roll that rare into a max then why is it matter which rare you got?

you gonna roll it away anyway?

[wind light]

so i dont need to keep the 3rd windfall

[amber terrace]

lol, you use shard to get another attribute to max?

[wind light]

i mean windfall is good

[hidden creek]

not really, exceeded stats is bad

[wind light]

yeah the yellow shards

[amber terrace]

lol how tf rich player do

[wind light]

not red one bruh

[amber terrace]

if me i use recast value

lol

[wind light]

i think recast value might be consume ppurple shards a lot

[amber terrace]

[wind light]

aam i doing wrong

[amber terrace]

maybe, idk

[wind light]

then how its right teach me

im new

[amber terrace]

im new too

[wind light]

is this sarcasm

[amber terrace]

actually no

[wind light]

okay, even my stats was too low

or it should be from mid range

understood

thanks alot, you helped the community better, we really appriciate

reroll the trash red stats with 60 times right ?

[amber terrace]

[amber terrace]

no, reroll rare attribute you don't want to max stat then roll another rare

[wind light]

can normal reroll do that, or the special one ( special = you can choose 1 stat after 60 times )

wow i just know that

so if i have a trash rare

just reroll

until a stat i need with max number

man im so bad

i use auto

how i am to know when its max to stop

then i have to do manual

[amber terrace]

sure

[wind light]

this is the way

got it bro

thanks guys

love it ❤️

[wind light]

@cerulean temple

this one

so now

should i replace the windfall

i think i should keep 2wf

im using threefold build

poison and thunder

yes sir

bookmakred

btw after i get one max atrribute

with normal reroll

i keep it

then normal reroll that into the crit dmg i need

or use the pity

aH

i understand everythihng

trash rare > normall reroll until max attribute > use roll on another souljade 60 times > use pity to get the max attribute you need

got it

[amber terrace]

why atk first

3,2% not low

[wind light]

you mean dmg to boss , 2% is low

[amber terrace]

it nearly maxed

[wind light]

brahhhhhhhhhhh

with 3.2* attack i recast value

ahhaha

take it ?

[amber terrace]

you can take it

[wind light]

done

im stupid

man i always use pity

on

rare

....

nah in the past

i choosed 4,8%

dont worry

i mean

ah i didnt do that i was testing my other souljade

yes roll that luck into rare

so rn, i do pity on the maxed attributes ? my backfire jade

i think i should recast value

4.8 to 5 is easy

thats the only way ?

yes my goal maybe get rare on that backfire ( change 125 luck into rare )

will do now

just tried normal reroll

i take this

done

you mean recast value ?

ok

got it

love it

yes

it doesnt waste my shard alot

omg

before i know this, i always use pity on my rare

....

im out of shard rn

managed roll maxed normal attribute

awesome

appriciate all the explanation

[raw sinew]

sea + 2 EP 9k

[viscid wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/sweaty-nervous-dog-gif-10253137

[agile coral]

Doom Domain 2 more stage please help SEA

[bold folio]

Which one

[agile coral]

2nd and 3rd

[agile coral]

can you help me broo

[bold folio]

If you can wait bro

I play st 9/10pm

[agile coral]

ill chat later bro. can i add you discord?

[signal kite]

#🧨┃rift-traversal

[elfin flame]

Ops my bad

[viscid wraith]

that's rift traversal bro but after u kill wanyan wu, u can assassinate him

[elfin flame]

Ah that one

Too long

[ember karma]

Tianhi

Is he good in showdown?

I heard from a 2026 tier list guy that that guy is unfortunately a D tier 💀💀

Bc people can easily run or bait his ult out

But if people dont run from u in showdown you can just wreck everything right

[kind escarp]

bro ru fr

[signal kite]

The thing is all heroes are good with this and that build ,, now some have crazy skills where some have crazy ult that can be used to deal dmg but there always will be meta build and heroes that can shine more with that build according to their kit ,,, so yeah tianhai is D tier

[ember karma]

At least thats what i heard

[kind escarp]

its a tier list for pvp, dont compare those 2

[ember karma]

In high level games

[kind escarp]

who's gonna run from u in pve bro

[signal kite]

Boss

[ember karma]

You didnt get what i meant

[kind escarp]

those mfs r aggro af they would chase us talking about running away

[ember karma]

I was asking if he was good in high level showdown. Ik no one will run from me in showdown lol

[kind escarp]

ok ok... lmao jk

[ember karma]

Lwkey i might just get Inor Wan instead

I saw a #1 ranked player using him 9 months ago

[kind escarp]

he wont be here till sep

[ember karma]

Oml

[kind escarp]

😐

u what

[ember karma]

What?

[signal kite]

His ult doesn't do much lol but that his swarm can do pretty good dmg to single target

[ember karma]

I noticed he has insane mobility so id assume he does enough damage

[signal kite]

Mobility != Dmg

[ember karma]

I want someone who can turn into a monster 🤣😂

So it's either him or the 4 armed monster monk

[kind escarp]

[ember karma]

The 4 armed guy seems like he can take more damage in high level showdown

[signal kite]

Wait for inor wan to come , he surely gonna meet ur expectations

[ember karma]

Is he actually gonna be coming next in showdown

[signal kite]

Yeap

[kind escarp]

ye sep

wont u get tianhai unlocked default...ion remember

[ember karma]

Oh im stupid

Youre right

[kind escarp]

[ember karma]

How much tae do i need for a new character

[kind escarp]

12k

save those 160 tae stuff from events

need like 75 i think

[ember karma]

How do you use tae to get a new character tho

[kind escarp]

1min

couldnt play in like 2 or 3 days now

[ember karma]

How do you guys know Inor will be next to come

[signal kite]

This comes automatically, when you have played a certain amount of showdown matches you will be able to do too

[kind escarp]

game crashed while loading

[amber terrace]

3 months later in note patch

[signal kite]

whoaa cool

[ember karma]

Ah i see

[amber terrace]

[ember karma]

I cant wait that long

Why does it take them so long

[kind escarp]

i mean they just added shayol

[amber terrace]

cuz they make Standardization

[kind escarp]

get thse from random rift events or anywhere

[signal kite]

I wish yueshan ult could last 4 more sec its 16 sec that would make it 20s and demon bane mark also could last for 20 secs T^T this guy is cracked man he's already melting bosses in that very little time

[amber terrace]

sed

[signal kite]

they should rework his curio and make it give him stay longer in his ult

also this thing should make demon bane mark to last longer

[kind escarp]

hmm...the mark stay long till his ult finish tho

or am i just laggy

[signal kite]

ur laggy lol he can do 2 more skills if mark atlest stays his ult duration

[kind escarp]

hmm have to check ion remember

[amber terrace]

@fierce light wow good

[signal kite]

Yes it was discussed early lol wuchen meta incoming

[fierce light]

Mark only lasts for 15s

[signal kite]

And starting ult consumes 1 sec lol

[fierce light]

One of his Awakenings does that, but it requires doing basics instead of skill spam.

[signal kite]

Ohh that suks

[fierce light]

Yeah it's going to be insane for Tempered Inferno

Probably not even going to touch my Kylin

[amber terrace]

lol, who is best hero in TI?

yes, Wuchen

[fickle linden]

what jades is that

[amber terrace]

threefold

[fierce light]

Backfire, Desperation, Forsaken Force, Threefold Gathering, Four Spirits Converge, & Dual Spirit Marks.

[fickle linden]

poison ?

i got maxed backfire and desperation but my kylin alrdy uses them hm

[signal kite]

Can he get benefits from tempered force using that regular atk ? Is it considered as melee atks ?

[fickle linden]

or maybe one of them was from old ranged build cant remember

[fierce light]

Yeah it's Melee

Forsaken Force already saturates it though.

Plus you want to spend at least 30 potential points on Threefold

[signal kite]

Yeap T^T sad

They should rework his curio aggr T^T

[fickle linden]

new nirriti fatigue is pretty nice, instead of 600 something fatigue i'm now able to spend almost 1200 per week

[signal kite]

Just use exhilarating elixirs what are you saving them up for

[fickle linden]

i forgot they exist

[signal kite]

See

[fickle linden]

don't need materials thought i guess i'm saving them for when i need materials

[signal kite]

Bros saving untill game become dead lol

[fickle linden]

3k frags, 2.5k carved crystals, 3 legend jades and 3 flux shards in bank

[fickle linden]

alrdy ded

https://giphy.com/gifs/FugzOfficial-dead-cracking-up-bury-1H9CZCRLOjRf0Di4Qm

[signal kite]

Can I have some crystals

[fickle linden]

nirriti gives them alot now

[amber terrace]

wuchen curio + forsaken

[fickle linden]

guess i could even play peak now

[amber terrace]

[signal kite]

still not enough to out class diz bad boys see how many i have respected to crystals

[fickle linden]

there is 4 carved crystals in gift shop for 45 fragnant jade each

go buy

lol what a joke "deal"

[fierce light]

Ah actually Element Surge would be better than Desperation for that Wuchen build.

[signal kite]

Yeap worst possible deal T^T

Element surge poison 20% atk bonus permanent, unlike desparation u have to be below 50% health for the same

[fickle linden]

wish we could upgrade souljade storage size aswell, i've got 500+ legendary jades and i dont wanna go thru them to check which ones to keep

just let me pile them forever

after every game i need to destroy epic ones and claim stuff from the overhaul thing 💩

[hidden creek]

iirc @fierce light said desperation dmg bonus is on a different multiply

[signal kite]

20% more dmg is not same as 20% atk boost sheesh

[kind escarp]

oh...so basically same time

[signal kite]

[signal kite]

Bro's saving up for Naraka 2

Whyyy whyyy why ToT

https://tenor.com/view/son-im-crine-son-im-crine-gif-5176045023480767429

[fickle linden]

loot from 1 week of showdown in china

[amber terrace]

[signal kite]

Ahhh hell nah

[kind escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-when-fans-walk-in-when-the-when-the-fans-walk-in-gif-24843144

brother i have like 600 wtf

[fierce light]

It's more so cause your Damage bonus becomes more saturated than your Attack.

Since we're not running Attack attributes anymore, Attack jades become more valuable.

[signal kite]

Gotcha

[fathom edge]

Can I borrow some?

[amber terrace]

yup if gem has that system

[signal kite]

They should let us buying and selling ngl 2 stacks of each 600 gold

[fickle linden]

let me sell my materials in steam marketplace for $

[ember sapphire]

HOLY MOLY

https://tenor.com/view/anya-forger-gif-6455563716676221950

[bold folio]

Anyone want to enigma now?

Sea server

[signal kite]

2 more slashes aghhhrrr

[kind escarp]

damm

[rotund forge]

Starege

[kind escarp]

ig im prolly missing 1 or 2 slashes and then it just end right on time cuz delays and stuff

[signal kite]

ts fun ngl

This with that new banner curio

[kind escarp]

[viscid wraith]

I think u can spin more faster if u jump then cast skill

or maybe thats my placebo lmao

[signal kite]

Kiss?

[cerulean temple]

Wrong chat

[signal kite]

Aww it's ok

[kind escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/bleach-aizen-ichigo-gif-14268770895337848756

[cerulean temple]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-handshake-fake-tease-feint-gif-4376603321991465533

[kind escarp]

[amber terrace]

Yo

[idle perch]

Do people ever run doom speedruns? I can get the first 3 stages 3 stars but the last stage… my char is lvl 25 it’s a struggle. Currently paragon 5

[fathom edge]

Most people solo that. But, it also depends on your build

What server are you? Maybe I can help you

[idle perch]

I have a max Valdi Cui. But.. I have never crafted a souljade. Maybe I need to optimize my build if people are successfully soloing it

[fathom edge]

Check DarkZero website (it is in the pinned), that will help you a lot.

If you can come to EU server I can do speedrun for you

[idle perch]

I’m NA. Thanks for the advice. I think I need to change my souljade elemental attributes, maybe grind for a stronger mastery musket charm.

Is there anyway to view the top Valdi Cui players in Showdown and copy their builds? I’m #8 or #9 rn but I’m 100% clueless on what I’m optimizing for

also the souljade guides are confusing..gonna need to look at this again in the morning. Ty for all the help

[kind escarp]

what build ru using

the souljade set and potential

[amber terrace]

You can copy from yama's leaderboard

[exotic solstice]

Gotta be scorching 12 build

[rotund forge]

Nirriti inner hard vs legend is same drops right?

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Mort leveled up!

[fierce light]

You can copy directly from the leaderboard. Also there's recommended jades in-game with a player's favorite section that includes the most popular build for that character.

[amber terrace]

Yo

[idle tree]

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNRtStm8w/

there is no way wuchen with his curio after triggering it once the rest doin itself

xD

https://tenor.com/view/naraka-bladepoint-kurumi-naraka-naraka-cartoon-gif-15374000548799678869

[signal kite]

[fierce light]

Yup, same way it worked with Toxin Seep/Infectious Touch

[idle tree]

like right now? or you mean after patch?

[fierce light]

Last season

It was able to stack Toxified itself

[idle tree]

aaaah yeah ., i understand now

this is a bit overkill in my opinion

[fierce light]

Considering it does 1.5 times the damage of a Toxin Blast, yeah it's a pretty sizable buff.

It does have the caveat of disabling access to Black Tortoise's Aid

[idle tree]

do you already know how it is gonna be looking matari with curio and crit build? @fierce light

[thorn narwhal]

who needs Tortoise's aid when it's outright broken lol, there's no way they let it pass doesn't make sense to trigger more than once.

[fierce light]

Matari will likely still use her old build from last season

With the new Crit attributes.

Feathers
(21 x 2) × 2 = 84
-# 2 Aegis-breaks + 1 Defuse
vs
Vermillion Bird Scorch
40 + 35.2 = 75.2
-# 8 Aegis-breaks

When the RNG lines up, it's quite insane.

[idle tree]

https://tenor.com/view/naraka-bladepoint-kurumi-naraka-naraka-cartoon-gif-1437921636586236891

[amber terrace]

wow

[signal kite]

wow

[viscid wraith]

wow

[torn iris]

hi

[shrewd mesa]

can someone send me the tessa bow build by chance

[fierce light]

Scattershot Enhance, Backfire, Desperation, Pestilent Pool, Miasma Drive, Element Surge · Poison-Wielding.

[shrewd mesa]

ty very much

[minor anchor]

is crit new meta?

[shrewd mesa]

i think so

i see alot of people only run crit crit dmg dmg to bosses and windfall

[minor anchor]

hmm i see

[viscid wraith]

it made builds cheaper

[signal kite]

Don't care

[viscid wraith]

wtf 💀

[signal kite]

Yea 4 wfs on each game break meta

[viscid wraith]

buffing hopes and dreams

[shrewd mesa]

☠️

[signal kite]

Actually having no basic attributes in a jade makes the game register the jade having all the possible properties of attributes and 4 wfs buffs twice the value , this is the real end game

https://tenor.com/view/baby-sukuna-gif-4941167034052703615

[fickle orbit]

What is the fastest way to upgrade showdown levele

[fickle orbit]

What is this evil dance

[fierce light]

Yeah, it scales way better than anything else atm

[fierce light]

Nirriti's Ruins

[kind escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/go-for-it-homelander-antony-starr-the-boys-push-gif-17866579

[vale inlet]

#😎┃game-news message

[bold folio]

Inor wan is coming

[kind escarp]

omg yes

[signal kite]

Erm what's that

[kind escarp]

that boss rush event where u have to do some defuses and get SSS,AAA,CCC and stuff and u fly to the next boss

[signal kite]

Ohh sheesh yeah totally forgot about this thing's existence

Damn

[kind escarp]

this sounds interesting as well

[signal kite]

They should always keep this or that event running man to keep things interesting rather than giving us everything at once for a short time and then ggs nothing new in next 2 months just raw nirriti and peak grind

Dumbo devs

[kind escarp]

hope u can stack like 5 bosses

[kind escarp]

well there's more better permanent stuff coming so don't need niriti maybe

[amber terrace]

Wow trash mode

[kind escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/anya-forger-anya-spy-x-family-gif-17200077238442027522

[ember sapphire]

https://klipy.com/gifs/demon-slayer-hashira-training-arc-1--k01KRZYXB74B9Z32HS4TBQG75KB

[fierce light]

Weird, dunno why they'd add that when everyone is going to be doing Tempered Inferno

Glad to hear they're planning to take showdown serious. Interesting we're getting a mode that requires 3 builds too.

[signal kite]

That's the point I was saying ToT so curios gonna come on June 17th ?

[fierce light]

Pretty sure we're still getting Tempered Inferno on reset

Just they'll add more for us to grind later

[thorn narwhal]

I'm not sure wether to be excited or not for the update

When they say first half and second half that's the next season?

[fierce light]

Yeah

[signal kite]

10 days of May then June July August then in sept 3 inor gonna come 🫴

[thorn narwhal]

4 months for inor and 6+ for other updates

[versed barn]

yeah that was predictable

tbh i feel unmotivated to play showdown

boring af

[thorn narwhal]

We all gonna be 50 by the time this happens

[versed barn]

0 progress in this mode

[kind escarp]

i mean ti gonna be here for months anyway

[fierce light]

Yeah, but like the very first week of TI, everyone going to be trying to at least get their starting Curios.

Sad to hear there hasn't been any adjustments to the rng of them

[kind escarp]

hmm are they adding that event on next rest as well

[kind escarp]

maybe 2nd half for this season is on sep

[thorn narwhal]

I'm pretty sure they never check how dead showdown is in non-cn regions, more game modes = more dead, at least we used to find a queue every now n then in nirriti but once innerworld was released I didn't get a single queue in past weeks.

If they won't rework the main structure of the whole showdown and give us proper party finding and multi queue nothing is reviving this game

[kind escarp]

ooh ok

[kind escarp]

nvm its 17th june

[fierce light]

I don't think you'd want to public queue for the new end-game modes

But yeah we do need a better system for making friends in Showdown

[kind escarp]

those r permanent right?

so don't have to niriti and peak anymore

and they adding some stuff to craft old curios as well so don't hsve to worry if i miss anything

[fierce light]

They'll likely have a delayed opening

[kind escarp]

they add all the stuff at once and once they gone nothing else is there except niriti

[signal kite]

That's what i said lol

Devs cooking straight up poison

[kind escarp]

well i thought those new ones would be permanent

[signal kite]

Let's wait and see that's what we can do and been doing and will be doing

https://tenor.com/view/son-giftok-tom-tucker-family-guy-im-crine-gif-47048448267690577

[kind escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/aizen-drinking-sip-drink-bleach-gif-6204028

[fierce light]

Yup, Tempered Inferno coming next reset

Korvine and the Charioteer might be a bit annoying to fight with all that movement they be doing.

Old Curios you missed can now be unlocked.

[kind escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/oiia-cat-gif-14934872872258635476

[kind escarp]

korvine da whole time :

ooh shyth....didn't know there was a new cut scene for culmination lvl

wuchen got da mask

[rain narwhal]

soo…. is inferno coming tomorrow or in june

im confused by the notice

[kind escarp]

tmr

[fierce light]

Just getting even more new curios later in the same season

[kind escarp]

hope the stuff we grind now would be valid for then ....would be lame if they reset

[fierce light]

Doubt they would reset curios in the same season

[lapis vale]

guys

I just returned to the game after a long time

how's showdown now?

[kind escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-barnacles-funny-gif-gif-14509494416451968887

[signal kite]

At its worst case rn

[signal kite]

@lapis vale they starting from 0

[kind escarp]

they r killing it 🤌

[fierce light]

Bruh wtf if you break Aureate's back right after it's Ultimate he does it again

[kind escarp]

whole stage is annoying to me..tried with yueshan and it was a pain

[fickle linden]

https://giphy.com/gifs/joke-skeleton-kostra-WBSTdAk7W2Dng0vXa7

[amber terrace]

Yo

[rotund forge]

@versed barn can we see a performance video

[versed barn]

?

sorry but idk why you pinged me rn

[kind escarp]

[fierce light]

Worse than a build with random attributes 💀

[kind escarp]

bro trying to buff his pc

[versed barn]

?xD?

https://klipy.com/gifs/ping-command-1--k01KS0JEA37Z1YMWWZJVY1V4SN3

[kind escarp]

1wf = 100fps

[versed barn]

xDDD

maybe in other dimmension when somebody move accidentaly a chair

[kind escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-strange-benedict-cumberbatch-spider-man-no-way-home-gif-22865532

[amber terrace]

go enigma peak meet idio player

just know farming no one kill boss

shayol wei go farm

matari go farm

then i go farm too

then boss matari just run around

lol

[kind escarp]

who did u use

[amber terrace]

2 monkey

?

[kind escarp]

what

[amber terrace]

yea i see 2 monkey

[balmy urchin]

So we new showdown players will not be able to forge previous curios even for a timed event.

[amber terrace]

yes, can't craft old curios ver

but i think they will make event to everyone can craft old in time

[kind escarp]

[kind escarp]

did u read the patch note

[balmy urchin]

Wait I did not see that!!!!

I was reading the patch notes. I might have missed that

Omg thanks!

[fierce light]

I wonder what's the requirements for it to drop

and if it has a use beyond unlocking old curios

[balmy urchin]

I actually ready the update notice instead of the patch notes. My bad

Oh I am grinding

[kind escarp]

[kind escarp]

what if u could use them to unlock current ones as well and make them lvl 1

no more bs rng

[fierce light]

I'd probably use it on the Threefold Curio then until I can craft Wuchen's.

[amber terrace]

why 5/21 open TI

[signal kite]

Because after the weekly reset

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-mighty-omega-gif-22253898

[turbid agate]

Wait so is inferno coming today or no?

No new characters till September

[versed barn]

https://klipy.com/gifs/kekw-dow--k01KS0SE1QJ7G326WJP4N84CCQR

[turbid agate]

[kind escarp]

[kind escarp]

after reset

[turbid agate]

So tomorrow right?

[kind escarp]

yes

[fierce light]

Not till reset at the usual time

[turbid agate]

I was hopping today, damn

[warped falcon]

Oh does this mean Yamas abyss will be more challenging now

[fierce light]

It's a separate end-game mode

[amber terrace]

[warped falcon]

Oh ok but what will happen to Yamas

Is this new mode gonna replace it or?

[cerulean temple]

Nothing will happen to yamas

[shrewd mesa]

i cant wait for this update

[signal kite]

Yeap really can't wait 1 more day

[fierce light]

It's not till later this season, but yeah we'll have more end-game other than just Yama's.

[lyric roost]

https://www.tiktok.com/@kerimswr/video/7641711690660285714

[fickle linden]

so will fatigue reset after maintenance or does it reset tomorrow?

or both

[plain spire]

tommorow fatigue reset

[fierce light]

Showdown update technically isn't till tomorrow for us

Rest of the game gets their update today

[viscid wraith]

[amber terrace]

Yo

[stoic rapids]

Inor wan doesnt in sd yet???

[amber terrace]

next ss

[vale inlet]

#😎┃game-news message

[amber terrace]

[loud citrus]

oh.. thought i could play it now

[stoic rapids]

So longggggggg :(()

[frank drift]

Yea they lied about the time its available ingame, it shouldve been unlocked 6h ago according to the time they put ingame.

They also said it wouldnt be released before fatigue reset - yet they make it launch 1h before fatigue reset so which is it xd

To believe what they say or what they post ingame, that is the new question

[fickle linden]

nice they added wallhack to nirriti in newest patch

looks like it's in the air

[fathom edge]

WTH 🤦🏻‍♂️

[ivory wharf]

they delete the floor/ceiling there accidently?

[fickle linden]

somekinda bug it didn't happen in every game

[kind escarp]

wtf is that bru

ig its better than my floating boss weapons

some mysterious spear float towards u and bonk u inda head

[idle perch]

Hi guys, I’m newer (started 2026) and I hit a wall on Doom Speedrun. Cannot get 3 stars, barely 1.

I beat paragon 5 but have no idea about crafting. I’m playing lvl 25 Valdi Cui. Any advice would be appreciated

[steep wadi]

go to valda yama solo leaderboards click on the three lines on right see what jades and attributes and potential plan they are running click apply to copy same jades and potential and see whats best for you

[ember sapphire]

valda say hi

[steep wadi]

also read this is pretty comprehensive guide https://dark-zer0.github.io/Showdown/

[fierce light]

That happened to me before

[fierce light]

It looks like you have part of her Scorching Musket build set up. Unfortunately, it's not very effective without a lot of rare attributes, so it's not the most beginner friendly build.

Curios are around the corner, so I wouldn't invest into anything right this second. They're known for rapidly changing the builds used.

[signal kite]

Hii

[kind escarp]

if orbs curio could crit... could i switch some attack ones to them

planning on using her with orbs...already switched hp to boss dmg

[fierce light]

They most likely can. You don't really want attack anymore anyway, unless you're missing Windfalls.

[worldly gyro]

What time exactly Tempered Inferno available to play?it show may 21st at 3 am oclock yet 15 hours has passed but the mode still unlock

[signal kite]

8 hrs from now

[fierce light]

It unlocks when fatigue resets, <t:1779307200:R>.

[worldly gyro]

sorry i missread the date i thought it's today

[fierce light]

The original date listed was yesterday, but they pushed it back

[worldly gyro]

ah figured

[kind escarp]

okie

[bronze knoll]

will u update the builds today with the curios darkzero or will it take a while?

[fierce light]

Can't make any promises as I have to get them to test them out

[bronze knoll]

ye thats the answer i expected so prolly take a bit

[fickle linden]

[lapis vale]

wtf

[west crater]

Did you at least get to test the Curios in practice mode?

[fierce light]

Was clearing fatigue, but yeah I can

Doesn't cover the awakenings though

[lapis vale]

Can anyone tell me how to look which places I can find these in?

[lapis vale]

okay so what exactly dym by they starting from 0?

[fierce light]

Here.

[west crater]

I tested the Akos one, and man, what a disappointment...
I noticed serious mechanical problems and I hope some Awakening will solve these problems.

[lapis vale]

they don't have Souljade level thing anymore???

[lapis vale]

oh thankssss

you're so nicee

always been

[west crater]

nop

[lapis vale]

😭😭

@signal kite you play on SEA?

[amber terrace]

Yo

[lapis vale]

hellooo

[signal kite]

Yeap

[lapis vale]

who do you main?

[signal kite]

Main in showdown ? I mostly use kylin zang and justina but now also using werid Yueshan ,, after curios I'll start using wuchen

[fierce light]

Omfg they did Akos's Curio so dirty

It removes the 80% Attack he would normally gain

[signal kite]

💀

[fierce light]

I was doing the numbers and I was like

https://tenor.com/view/ruckus-this-cant-be-no-this-cant-be-sad-read-letter-gif-14293155805878050145

[amber terrace]

wow

[fierce light]

I've never seen something with a dmg multiplier below 0.1, but it was just that they removed the 80% Attack

[limpid pecan]

zenda small arrows

have less than 0.1

[fierce light]

It even neuters his Skill...

https://tenor.com/view/bubble-says-''discusting'-gif-11858832203285581617

[fierce light]

I mean in Showdown, since they're usually higher than in PvP.

The tiger strike can even miss pretty often, although it has a respectable multiplier of 72.00

[west crater]

Not only that, I stayed there for a few hours and I found it really awful that the tiger always came from the "wall" of the cage where you have your back turned. I made a drawing in Paint. The Akos is the red arrow, the Mob/boss is in pink, and the yellow arrow is the tiger's attack.

There were several times when the tiger simply couldn't reach the target, just because it was too far from the wall.

[fierce light]

Yeah, I guess Radiance Flow is his Curio atp

[west crater]

Wouldn't Bolt be a good option when using critical strike builds?

[fierce light]

The fact that it hits harder than his Curio, doesn't require his Ultimate nor being in the radius of a flag. 🤣

[fierce light]

I haven't gotten around to testing it yet

Saved it for last since it seemed the most tedious

[lapis vale]

oop, niceee

[fierce light]

Okay, here's all I've found on the new Curios:

[signal kite]

is this ok for wuchen to do this much dmg from 1 charge atk ?

[fierce light]

Well that confirms it can crit

[signal kite]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-rdj-juggtok-giftok-tonystark-facials-gif-3958302751287261929

[amber terrace]

YOOOOOOOOO

3hrs later

[lapis vale]

what is iiit

[round glacier]

Zai seems strong with curio

[fierce light]

Justina's Curio is kind of a nerf too on Ice builds. At least without any awakenings.

[round glacier]

Zai worth it?

[fierce light]

Yeah hers is pretty strong

[round glacier]

Good cause i maxed her out lol

Wuchen will be next

Hope i can figure a build out for kurumi curio

[amber terrace]

i see awk bonus ice blast dmg

[amber terrace]

i get wuchen first

[signal kite]

Wuchen with 3 fold and his curio is broken ToT

[amber terrace]

[kind escarp]

nice very nice

does orbs crit tho

wait actually...is orbs stronger than bolt one

[signal kite]

Which orb ?

[kind escarp]

counter orbs one

last season

[signal kite]

They can crit

[kind escarp]

nice

[signal kite]

But is stronger than new banner donno

[kind escarp]

[signal kite]

Wuchen curio

And y don't we have rare attributes in training mode in fact y don't we yet have any attributes in training mode

[kind escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/whatif-matrix-make-gif-723526056553365657

[fierce light]

Just use the Threefold Curio or Banner Curio on her till they do the balance patch

[fierce light]

Against a single target, yes.

[kind escarp]

hmm okay then

imma use kurumi in ti with lotus mark and valda in yama with orbs

and she will aura farm da whole time

[fierce light]

Bolts don't generate Rage either, so Radiance Flow will likely still be BiS for Kylin even in TI.

[amber terrace]

[kind escarp]

oh

[fierce light]

Radiance Flow

• 1 Orb: deals 15.6/s.
• 2 Orbs: deal 31.2/s.
• 4 Orbs: deal 62.4/s.
  Five Thunder Banner
• 1 Thunder Mark: deals 8.0/s.
• 2 Thunder Marks: deal 16.0/s

[signal kite]

https://tenor.com/view/hydrogen-bomb-vs-baby-gif-16389939655051520745

[fierce light]

If the awakenings for Five Thunder Banner work how I think, one increases the DPS of Thunder Mark by 50% while the other doubles the duration (damage) per Thunder Mark.

Both should be pretty viable, although the DPS one will likely be the go to for Yama's.

[signal kite]

Hydrogen bomb vs hydrogen bomb

[shrewd mesa]

reset in in 8 mins right

or is it 4 est

[round glacier]

Balance patch? When?

[fierce light]

Later this season

[round glacier]

Guess no notes yet?

[fierce light]

They only mentioned they're going to adjust all previous Curios in the later patch that brings more Curios

[round glacier]

Sounds intresting

[amber terrace]

40 mins later

[signal kite]

already bored with this season's curios cya next season

[thorn narwhal]

anyone notice a difference? feels exactly the same