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half halo
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to some extent it is fun but against spammy bosses collecting these marks in right order and with time limited main effect is a pure torture, just like it was with demonbane

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and im not even bad at the game

fierce light
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Yes

fierce light
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Top DPS would be to get 3 Threefold's off, but it's not realistic in most scenarios, you'll only get 1 off per Black Tortoise's Aid.

signal kite
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So this time less rare attributes giving much more value big W

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But what about my previous 12WF 4Mod justina build

hidden creek
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weird jades

shrewd basin
lone umbra
hidden creek
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i mean the effects are... interesting, but spending 1 slot for the jade?

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ew

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also i'm lazy af so who can tell me what to pick now on ice surge justina and hydroflare kylin?

signal kite
hollow herald
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I haven't played showdown for a while. Since when do they have golden armor?

hidden creek
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since the patch that increase max hero level to 25

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which is like months ago

fierce light
# hidden creek bruh

Tempered Force is useless, but Forsaken Force should be good for Kylin when Curios come out.

fierce light
signal kite
fickle linden
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or whatever the chain jade was called

hidden creek
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nah replace szs/renewed vigor i think

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hydro kylin doesn't run the chain jade anyway

fickle linden
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never played hydro kylin im just gonna play the same ol kylin in TI i've played last 2 seasons

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think i didn't get renewed vigor for it last season, just used thunder chain both seasons

rotund forge
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Now heng sword rampage good or musket

dark dust
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@fierce light whats the best element for wuchen?

long ore
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any speedrun

wind light
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@fierce light any info for crit rate/dmg attributs

wind light
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so does anyone test about it, is it OP or needed for builds

fierce light
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Yeah, pretty much discussed it all up here.

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Site is updated too

wind light
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we change that ?

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my build rn

wind light
fierce light
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Only Burn build wants Attack now

wind light
fierce light
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Or if you have no rares, then it's a good 4th slot.

wind light
kind escarp
wind light
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crit rate or dmg

fierce light
fierce light
fickle linden
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@fierce light u got 2wf in blessed & lucky break+

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or just left them with 1

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seems expensive

fierce light
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Not using those jades

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Just went with a full Ice Surge build with Luck Attributes + Ice Blast DMG

fickle linden
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for luck build? just using old ice build with luck stat?

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i see

open pelican
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anyone carry me

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pls

fickle linden
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did peak open today? i haven't done the "new" story missions yet so it's permalocked for me lol

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doesn't say date or anything

sinful grail
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Yea it's open now

fickle linden
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snd not too bad rewards

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i like that it gives out coins too

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cuz i cant be bothered to play topaz more than once per week

thorn narwhal
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you got every drop, just a rare missing Matari_Pepe_Laugh

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crits feel so unreliable feels like its barely any better

fickle linden
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more rng to yama's leaderboards yay

limpid pecan
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and u have some big attack like chain crush or something

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that will refuse to crit

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XD

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also crit will feel rly bad on weaker monsters

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either doing poo poo dmg

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or overkilling like crazy

thorn narwhal
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It's urgent we get a Multi-Queue + a proper Party Up system, the game is already dead but now what can anyone pick.
there's Peak poison - ice - thunder
there's Topaz
there's Nirriti old + Nirriti Inner new 3 stages
there's Doom 3 stages + Speedrun
there's Suffer no demon event
not even mentioning people that are still stuck at Chapter missions + Yama
and soon Inferno
and goodluck finding people for easy battle runs or coordinate fatigue.

fickle linden
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yeah real LFG system is what the mode needs more than new builds, jades or heroes

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half the modes in showdown are unplayable with current LFG

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you don't know if someone has decent build, yin yang bonus or uses gold keys

limpid pecan
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there are like 10000 trillion queues in showdown

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i wonder if they even work in CN XD

thorn narwhal
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naraka is the only game that releases a new game mode that dies in 2 days

thorn narwhal
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inner and pvp brutality or whatever it was called

limpid pecan
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u mean a while ago?

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or we got it this patch?

thorn narwhal
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no was a while ago, rn there's that Evolution which im assuming is dead too

limpid pecan
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i mean they are bleeding players like crazy

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idk whats up

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they are stubborn on failed ideas

thorn narwhal
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its not that hard to deliver those basic QOL features that everyone wants and people will stay, but they are hella slow with that, every 5 patches or so we get a small QOL

limpid pecan
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newest QOL feature is

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5% chance to waste justina dash

balmy coral
zinc viper
# limpid pecan

Let create a character that can dodge everysingle attack of the game including Ultimate OH and give im infinite amount of Coomba stomp that can be use as combo engage as well!!! People will like it

balmy urchin
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I like the adjustment that they made to Shayol. She's better now

limpid pecan
fierce light
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Less end-lag in her Ultimate

fierce light
dapper gale
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lucky day got this from one of those random souljade stones

shrewd basin
fierce light
cursive fable
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14 windfall kylin will be oneshotting bosses in inferno

fierce light
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Yeah Poison Threefold feels nice

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I'm ngl crits made builds a lot more simple

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Lol I have Poison and Thunder Threefold done now

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Just have to max the attributes.

shrewd basin
fierce light
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Threefold Jades and Element Surge, Pestilent Pool, & Miasma Drive

vivid lark
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what does windfall do? I feel like the description doesn't actually explain the effect

fierce light
wind light
viscid wraith
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threefold jades and poison surge I think

wind light
viscid wraith
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thats the thunder version

wind light
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but i have to build again

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shiet

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still using ice surge

fierce light
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Thunder version was evaporating bosses in Peak

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I'll add the Poison one to the site soon

shrewd basin
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@fierce light should I keep my 9wf or drop two in favor of crit

wind light
shrewd basin
wind light
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i just read that

fierce light
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Same as Threefold Thunder

fierce light
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These jades will be rather universal after the switch

wind light
shrewd basin
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I run a 3/3 on mine

wind light
shrewd basin
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Yes

fierce light
fierce light
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Other than that the Wielding doesn't matter since you're not running Moderation.

wind light
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hope its better

fierce light
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Was actually out damaging a bow build

wind light
wind light
fierce light
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For bossing though, you often don't have time to do the full Thunder Counter, so 0 Wielding can be better.

wind light
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for

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how to use threefold

fierce light
wind light
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im clueless about the mark

cursive fable
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@fierce light hi zero

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crit/crit damage should outweight attack/boss damage in 100% of the situation right

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for ice chain/thunder lotus/thunder chain build?

fierce light
# wind light im clueless about the mark
  • Counterstrikes give Heaven Mark.
  • Defuse Counterattacks give Earth Mark.
  • Aegis-break Martial Skills give Mortal Mark.

When you have 3 of the same Mark or 3 different Marks, your next Melee Attack will activate a Threefold effect.

wind light
shrewd basin
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This was before the change

cursive fable
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@fierce light i feel liek viper does more dmg than justina/tessa now

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lol

wind light
shrewd basin
wind light
wind light
shrewd basin
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Does wus defuse hit for more than one mark @fierce light

fierce light
fierce light
shrewd basin
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Damn

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Tbh tho he would be busted af if it did

fierce light
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It's risky cause it has limited range and his defuse sends him pretty far back

fierce light
cursive fable
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oh i found it

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the justina crit/crit damage/ice blast/windfall is around 20% stronger than attack/iceblast/double windfall

fierce light
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Yeah i did the math earlier

cursive fable
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for ice surge justina?

fierce light
cursive fable
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tyty so much

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the highest damage should still be 4 mod 6 windfall right?

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although this chinese author said 4 mod 3 windfall

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but for the 4 mod 6 windfall, 4 mod has to be on the same jade

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i think 4 mod 6 windfall for sure outdamage this

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but its just so much more expensive to build

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4 mod 6 windfall:
270 Iceblast damage

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27% crit

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225% crit damage

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oh nvm you already wrote it haha

wind light
cursive fable
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i keep missing your notes haha

wind light
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but

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im not gonna do it

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waste many resourse

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bleh

cursive fable
wind light
turbid agate
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is there any point to running one poison wielding on ice surge anymore? just remembered i never changed it lool @fierce light

viscid wraith
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me too I never changed it lol

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I kept it for damage control

fickle linden
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the amount of console players in NA is crazy

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95% ppl in snd lfg are console players

fierce light
fickle linden
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time for console players to carry me for once

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my luck build does 💩 dmg

wind light
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my goodness

hollow herald
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Feel like Suffer No Demon is shorter than before

fickle linden
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it's always short

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best mode in showdown

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wish it was permanent i might be able to spend all fatigue every week with it

dark dust
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Is wuchen still the strongest?

misty bridge
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Was he?

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I thought he was just annoying to play with

hollow herald
rotund forge
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Justina strongest for now

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Matari_Pepe_Laugh even kylin struggling with ult charge

dark dust
warped bluff
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why would you nerf character instead of buffing weaker ones? PepeHands

fierce light
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Kylin was a bit overtuned tho tbf

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The new jade and Crit would've made him even more busted, so they had to bring him down a notch.

lone umbra
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@fierce light what is recommended attrs now with crit rate and crit dmg. in ice surge ?

lone umbra
fierce light
# lone umbra <@394141981200351235> what is recommended attrs now with crit rate and crit dmg....

BiS (27 Total Attribute Value)

  • 4x [Moderation]
    -# All 4 on one jade.
  • 6x [Windfall]
    -# 1 on each jade without [Moderation].
  • 6x Ice Blast DMG
  • 6x Crit Rate
  • 6x Crit Damage

Most Cost Effective (26.5 Total Attribute Value)

  • 4x [Moderation]
    -# 2 on 2 jades.
  • 5x [Windfall]
    -# 1 on each jade without [Moderation]
  • 7x Ice Blast DMG
  • 6x Crit Rate
  • 6x Crit Damage

Budget BiS (25.5 Total Attribute Value)

  • 4x [Moderation]
    -# 1 on 4 jades.
  • 3x [Windfall]
    -# 1 on each jade without [Moderation]
  • 7x Ice Blast DMG
  • 7x Crit Rate
  • 7x Crit Damage
twilit thistle
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hi

lone umbra
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damn... that means i have way too many extra wfs Bebu_angry_byWayayron

fierce light
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If you don't have any Windfalls with your Moderations, you'll be pretty well off sizing down

lone umbra
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i mean i had perfect 4 mod 4 wf on 4 jades and 6 double wfs

fierce light
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I mean like this
N R N R N R
N R N R N R
W F Mod W F
Mod Mod Mod
-# N R = non-rare attribute, W F = [Windfall], Mod = [Moderation]

Removing the Windfalls would put you slightly below the cost effective option.

cursive fable
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@fierce light that list should apply for thunder build too?

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like 27 total 26.5 25.5 , the bis/budget bis

fierce light
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Yeah

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All builds that want 2 different rares and can work with Crit.

cursive fable
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i guess its not a player reduce workload

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back then we needed 4 mod 10 windfall

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now although its 4 mod 6 windfall for absolute bis

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but the 4 mod has to be on the same jade

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makes the cost the same as 4 mod 10 wf

fierce light
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Still a good deal cheaper

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4 Mod, 10 WF had a Recast Cost of 21.
4 Mod, 6 WF, just has a Recast Cost of 13.

hidden creek
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so in short just replace attack with crit and crit dmg?

fierce light
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Yes

hidden creek
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do we prio capping crit first

cursive fable
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@fierce light matari gonna delete boss when shes curio out

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@hidden creek crit dmg more important

hidden creek
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does crit dmg got a cap?

cursive fable
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no

hidden creek
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imagine u put all into crit dmg and got like multiple crits in a row with just the base crit stat

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yama race gonna be even crazier

fierce light
hidden creek
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💀

lone umbra
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my mind exploded too

fierce light
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Basically once your Crit Rate reaches around 20-23%, go for Crit DMG after every Crit Rate

hidden creek
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oge

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also how about hydroflare kylin?

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i mean we gonna need to change to crit/cdmg later when curio is out but for now?

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probably still need rage/dmg right

fierce light
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Yeah

viscid wraith
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we prioritize getting capped crit rate right

hidden creek
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literally just talked about it

viscid wraith
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oh im dumdum Matari_Pepe_Laugh

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thank you bebu_Cheer

fresh field
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They nerfed Kylin, but they don't seem to care about the outdated champions.

fierce light
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To see your DPS gain from additional Crit Rate:
3% × Crit_DMG / (1 + Crit_Rate × Crit_DMG)
To see your DPS gain from additional Crit DMG:
Crit_Rate × 25% / (1 + Crit_Rate × Crit_DMG)

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Tbf Kylin isn't overly helpful rn, as everything is too squishy atm.

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Well maybe in Peak

hidden creek
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so uhh i got 1 attack left on a double wf jade, now it can be changed to crit or crit dmg, what do i pick?

cursive fable
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@hidden creek crit dmg

fierce light
fresh field
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455% element is crazy

cursive fable
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thats not the optimal build

hidden creek
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well i just change all attack into crit and cdmg for some dps increase, i don't really care about min maxing it

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can't be bothered

cursive fable
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best ice surge would be 32% crit , 375% crit damage, 365% ice blast DMG bonus

fresh field
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I have 1 question?
Does the íce blast got crit? Like it blast 3 time so that got a change to crit or only crit on a wp atk

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Sr i dont know wtf i said

fresh field
fierce light
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Yeah, just not DoT's it seems

hidden creek
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i guess this is it

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🤣

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my attack is so low lmfao

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time for some snd

signal kite
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They should tune some heroes like inor can have max crit rate in his ult and then in his jade we can only focus more on atk and crit dmg

lone umbra
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ewww inor

viscid wraith
fresh field
signal kite
hidden creek
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is inner world nirriti bugged or something

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sometimes in enter boss stage but my rage doesn't increase to 100%

kind escarp
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its never at 100% for me Justina_Upset

limpid pecan
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that gives u full rage

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also in innerworld u probably dont generate much rage

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as lotus kills everything

hidden creek
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wdym the buff doesn't works

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it's fire forge

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if it doesn't works then other stuffs in there shouldn't too

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but they are

fickle linden
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bugged or something

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it just doesn't work in inner

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never have

limpid pecan
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yep

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u think they played even 1 game on innerworld for testing purposes to find this out?

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silly

signal kite
versed barn
limpid pecan
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there are so many things u can find out on literally first game played

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in things they add to the game

versed barn
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yeah

limpid pecan
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like in rift if u do stele of elders

versed barn
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tbh i lost hope a long time ago

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and i give up

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this game wont make any progress, no future. We can just play until the end

limpid pecan
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u need to wait 30sec to drop relic

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and then

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someone can steal it

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it took them weeks

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to change it

rotund forge
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For the 4 mod

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On one jade

teal adder
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Whats the best use of fatigue? where should I try to "waste" it all?

versed barn
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then use potion

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other is like whatever

teal adder
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Does the nirritis difficulty matter? should I prioritize Legend always? and could the current event be better, Suffer no Demon?

hidden creek
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amount of possible souljade and crystal drop are the same between all difficulties, the difference is only the souljade that can drop

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hard nirriti only drop souljades that can drop on other hard stages, nightmare and legend nirriti can drop all souljades

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generally speaking suffer no demon's only perk is you got to spend your fatigue faster compare to running nirriti/enigma

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but the drop is overall worse i think, considering you run nirriti for crystal and enigma for jades and inner world nirriti key, and you can use gold enigma key (increase luck) to boost your drop

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but SND is fine for a farming stage

fickle linden
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i think normal and hard are not the same amount

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for nirriti

hidden creek
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maybe

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can't rmb last time i run a normal run

fickle linden
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probably few weeks ago

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cuz u cant do hard in new season without doing normal first

kind escarp
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well snd now have consistent crystals drop too...so 4 for 30,6 for 45 same as niriti ow

limpid pecan
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normal is half droprate

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so just run hard

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(spoiler alert: hard is not hard at all)

lone umbra
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Yes crystal drop rate is fixed now in nirriti and snd.

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Just souldjades need to go enigma

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And if you have coins then nirriti inner. It is a joke with rings preset

chrome seal
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If you are not satisfied by it
Then either make another build
Or just play regular nirriti

kind escarp
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bruh it crashed twice now Valda_Insomnia

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farmed coins just so it can crash and waste them

signal kite
versed crescent
limpid pecan
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so far i mostly used shayol pistol

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to hit mobs

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it triggers bolts

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then lotus goes crazy

versed crescent
lone umbra
versed crescent
limpid pecan
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idk it was fun first 3 times or so

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but now its really boring

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u spend 90% of run buying rings or waiting for loading screen

versed barn
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i thought it ll be hard af and i get finally some challenge in this game

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but well no

limpid pecan
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the difficulty level doesnt even matter

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everything jsut dies

versed barn
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one thunder counter = destruction chain

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at least is easier to farm materials

limpid pecan
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easier to farm materials so later they delete potential for the build we use

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XD

fierce light
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Yeah, Akos is pretty broken in Innerworld. Use his Roar on 3 or more enemies and he gets an instant Thunder Counter

limpid pecan
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guys u doing it wrong

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u just shoot pistol

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on any mob

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it will trigger bolts

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then bolts trigger lotus

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all dies

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xd

chrome seal
chrome seal
versed crescent
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I dunno why he spaming the set with swarm, more output but less dmg. I prefer to parry thunder for spaming lotus kinda higher dmg I think

kind escarp
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swarm counterstrike is kind of good ig

fierce light
limpid pecan
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u can probably use crossbow or swarm too

fierce light
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Dope.

limpid pecan
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should be good enough

fierce light
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I'll do that after the roar, since Thunder Counter gets the element buffs going.

amber terrace
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Yo

crimson pumice
chilly kestrel
signal kite
viscid wraith
kind escarp
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Oy

rotund forge
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Omlandah done kill my waif and stole my kid

valid roost
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The hidden villain arc of the Naraka server we'd never seen coming. Next we'll learn the plot twist that Omlandah is the next story boss of season 6

fierce light
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I've gotten so used to interrupting what I'm doing to do a Crouched Horizontal for Threefold

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Wow it feels so much smoother being able to just keep attacking.

tame flume
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This is cool.

fierce light
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Never been in there before

spice reef
fierce light
limpid pecan
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just dash light attack to trigger chain crush

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dash again

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ult twice

viscid wraith
shrewd basin
limpid pecan
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u can even hit 2 bosses with same chaincrush

fierce light
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I love how the damage carries over

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In solo Topaz, 3 Bosses just die instantly

limpid pecan
turbid agate
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in the Thunder Seal build, do you lose on a lot of damage if you don't put all moderations in one jade?

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and what's it's main difference compared to the Thunder Mark Chain build? which is stronger?

fierce light
turbid agate
fierce light
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Chain would be slightly more effective for mobbing, while Seal is better for bossing

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Especially against mobile bosses since Seal can't miss.

turbid agate
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cool, thank you!

tame flume
spice reef
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I'm just new to showdown don't really understand I'll copy a build but not doing the same damage

amber terrace
cursive fable
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@fierce light is there an estiamte on how much drops we get a week for the 2400 fatigue

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by doing peak/inner world/topaz

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i feel like i got 800 frags+400 stones out of my 2400 fatigue

fierce light
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Hard to say

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Don't have any concrete numbers on how many crystals Topaz/Peak drops.

signal kite
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Imagine if next curio set comes up with crit related attributes

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Like for justina after each element burst her crit dmg goes up by 100%

safe coyote
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for the forsaken force souljade does damage by moves mean everything except for elemental damage ?

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or move is indicating skills only

signal kite
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Or during her ult max crit rate

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Curio supremacy Wuchen_maid_byCrimsonrain

hidden creek
safe coyote
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ty for clarification

hidden creek
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@fierce light so uhh should i change anything?

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like not in term of maximizing the build but just roll this normal attribute to a diff one for the overall stats to be more... balanced

cursive fable
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@hidden creek seems like a good distribution

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30.5 325 350

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ideally surge should be 2 wf/1wf with 0 mod

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so you can easily swap element surge to other build

hidden creek
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oh i got a diff element surge with wf

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oh well

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back to being lazy again

cursive fable
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ya really no need to do much

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i dont think ice is meta right now

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the meta build seems like

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I. 7 WF Threefold Posion
II. 10 WF Bow(Simmed highest at 3x double windfall, 4x single windfall at 30% boss DMG breakpoint)
III. 14 WF Kylin

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IV. 4 Mod 6 WF justina Ice

hidden creek
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crit and crit dmg doesn't affect burn DOT but does it affect hydroflare final dmg?

signal kite
signal kite
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Ohh ok ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

torn hatch
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Which map do you recommend for fast leveling?

plain spire
cyan lodge
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How much is the max critical dmg % ?
Is it 10%?

crimson pumice
sullen turret
# cyan lodge How much is the max critical dmg % ? Is it 10%?

You can press 'Alt' key on your keyboard to show the Max stat values of Jades. (for lazy folks, its max 3% crit rate & 25 % crit dmg, you could have used search function here i bet ppl mentioned it a couple of times, or use your ing storage filters.)

whole pebble
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@fierce light sorry to bother you, im trying to copy your build via profile. but I can't seem to see your potential path used. can you share it with me?

whole pebble
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but i think it was on her matari

tough topaz
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Thank u

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Zai for have thunderbold build

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İ would be very pleased

fierce light
fierce light
trail rose
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i see

grizzled canopy
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does swap element dmg + dmg to crit + crit chance better?

amber terrace
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Yo

rotund forge
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What jades does shayol need

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And the subs

shrewd basin
rotund forge
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Scorch went out of the thing?

turbid agate
fierce light
chrome seal
rotund forge
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Matari_Pepe_Laugh man with this new stats it's a headache

turbid agate
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Yeah check dark’s website, has everything

rotund forge
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Why shiet changes when I get settled

fierce light
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Very few builds need 14 rares anymore. Non-elemental builds can share universal jades with single rares.

chrome seal
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What's the third stat now to have with crits? Element blast?

fierce light
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Whatever dmg bonus you had before

chrome seal
# fierce light Whatever dmg bonus you had before

I had attack
But you said attack is now excessive and suggested to do DMG to boss instead
But I want it to be more neutral so that I'd have more DMG on mobs too for TI
So element blast is good too and gets crits as well right?

fierce light
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Attack ≠ DMG Bonus. It's a bonus on Attack which scales separately.

Every build used to run Attack + a Primary DMG Bonus, aside from Ranged which used 2. So this is either Ice Blast DMG, Divine Thunder DMG, DMG to Bosses, Ranged Weapon DMG, etc.

misty bridge
signal kite
fierce light
misty bridge
fierce light
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Elemental DMG Bonus > Crit Rate >= Crit DMG > General DMG Bonus > Attack

amber terrace
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i love crit

viscid wraith
lofty hemlock
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Anyone around?

tight lion
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yeah

tacit hornet
drifting lanceBOT
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🎉 | Crona leveled up!
| Level up messages can be disabled for the guild with owo level disabletext

fierce light
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Lol they combined her build with Threefold Mark. Interesting.

amber terrace
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Yo

hidden creek
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still can't see sht though

tribal venture
fierce light
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Disturbed, for sure

hidden creek
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my playlist is on random and this song pops when i'm on viper doing IW nirriti

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😭

rotund forge
turbid agate
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Threefold is actually really fun to play, makes you actually think lol. Plus, it nukes bosses Matari_Pepe_Laugh

rotund forge
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Matari_Pepe_Laugh but the burn build needs 2

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Bruh

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I have to keep 2 separate jades for this now

chilly kestrel
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just use wtv u have bebu_hihi

rotund forge
chilly kestrel
rotund forge
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Wuchen_maid_byCrimsonrain 1 whole season of grunting reduced to ash

chilly kestrel
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just keep the two windfall Wuchen_maid_byCrimsonrain

rotund forge
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And then next season they be like we introduce crit dmg and crit rate as waste stats

signal kite
chilly kestrel
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who cares what they gonna introduce nxt season Matari_Pepe_Laugh

tribal venture
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do we have shayol build already?

hidden creek
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@fierce light so if i change my hydro kylin (scorching, attack, boss dmg) into ult focus kylin (crit, cdmg, attack/double wf), hm dps increase i gonna get?

tribal venture
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used her on suffer no demon
shes kinda janky to use

hidden creek
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i don't play 3folds so idk how good it is lel

tribal venture
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damn

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that looks fun and effortless

crimson pumice
amber terrace
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my shield throw nearly 500k, in video 75k

tribal venture
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can you share your build?

amber terrace
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x3 wf, x1 armor/ x2 wf, x1 armor, x1 crit dmg / x1 wf, x1 armor, x1 crit rate, x1 crit dmg

tribal venture
amber terrace
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you can stop crit rate 15-20% and replace atk or dmg boss

rotund forge
turbid agate
amber terrace
hidden creek
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depends if it's true random distribution or pseudo random distribution

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most game uses pseudo random system

turbid agate
hidden creek
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so you can always calculate the diminishing returns

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and know when to get what

turbid agate
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My crit rate is at like 28-29% Matari_Pepe_Laugh bebu_hihi

rotund forge
hidden creek
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15% base is enough alr

amber terrace
rotund forge
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Wuchen_maid_byCrimsonrain then stop have crit rate and replace it with atk?

turbid agate
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So Dark lied to us w his website and logic Bebu_angry_byWayayron

rotund forge
turbid agate
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Jk jk

rotund forge
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The crit rate fallacy

turbid agate
rotund forge
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Time to invest in atk

tribal venture
hidden creek
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well that's the thing, he probably tested it and came to the conclusion that it is pseudo random distribution, then comes the math

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which means if you got let's say a 50% crit, if ur first attack didn't crit, the second one will

turbid agate
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I just spent all my resources investing in crits today

rotund forge
hidden creek
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though it's still hard to say, because we don't have a stable source of main damage

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and idk if they're calculated seperately

turbid agate
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Build hits hard so okMatari_Pepe_Laugh

hidden creek
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like let's say u got 33% crit, ur normal attack crit but then ur ice blast and ur chain crush didnt, and their crit rate are not calculated seperately

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then you're fooked

tribal venture
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i ran out of the blue crystal thingy

turbid agate
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The pain

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I had 2.6k and ran through all of them Bebu_angry_byWayayron

tribal venture
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that shi goes so fast

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🥲

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you press one button and it all gone while you werent looking

rotund forge
hidden creek
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Tessa_duhummy same, well at least crystal drop rate is better now

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and we got iw nirriti

rotund forge
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Snd giving only 6 crystals but how u guys getting 8

hidden creek
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i don't even pay attention to it

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just brainless clearing

tribal venture
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true

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i just spam f on justina for snd

turbid agate
tribal venture
rotund forge
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Tarka_Pepe_sideeye_what rn kylin pepega and wuchen struggling like hell

tribal venture
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kylin love inferno more than justina

rotund forge
amber terrace
tribal venture
turbid agate
amber terrace
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build like this

turbid agate
rotund forge
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Need like 14 legend jades just for that

turbid agate
#

Armor and three windfalls?

rotund forge
amber terrace
turbid agate
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Damn

amber terrace
turbid agate
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I just made a jade w 4 moderations for mark build

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Felt completely sacrilegious

tribal venture
lone umbra
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Threefold build is BiS for him

rotund forge
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Bebu_angry_byWayayron my poison build died in snd

amber terrace
turbid agate
amber terrace
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now wuchen full luck with threefold is good

rotund forge
turbid agate
amber terrace
turbid agate
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Oh

signal kite
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I'm not gonna use a single resource rn , waiting for curios to come meta shifts crazy that time meanwhile my 12 wf previous justina build can keep up easily Viper_cake

lone umbra
tribal venture
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surge justina is that good

signal kite
lone umbra
rotund forge
tribal venture
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only lose to kylin because of the same dash mechanic

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in inferno that is

rotund forge
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Otherwise he keep finding battery to charge his ult

tribal venture
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oh man i've been so terrorized by flying monk in ranked now he also came in showdonw

signal kite
lone umbra
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Woah .

turbid agate
lone umbra
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I built threefold and shayol dedicated build

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Her dedicated build is damn fun

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Yes those 3

rotund forge
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Who's next for showdown

lone umbra
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InorBebu_angry_byWayayron

signal kite
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I want some crazy mechanics in inor ult

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Thunder god hero huh let's see how thunderous he is

turbid agate
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We need Lannie in showdownLannie_fishy

tribal venture
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imagine

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thunder lord

lone umbra
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Cyra

signal kite
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Whatever

tribal venture
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but his main build is poison

signal kite
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Bruh

hidden creek
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well remember the time when scorching out damages everything and even justina run it?

tribal venture
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i dont think justina is there for thunderscorch shenigan

signal kite
tribal venture
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or theres a new scorch build that i didnt know

lone umbra
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Scorching modified build

rotund forge
lone umbra
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And no one remember valda scorching build

tribal venture
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i remember valda scorch in inferno

lone umbra
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Without inferno as well

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She has best scorching set

tribal venture
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so scorch so op they had to nerf it twice

lone umbra
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They buffed it a bit last season

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Don't know if it got nerfed

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This season

amber terrace
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Yo

hidden creek
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iirc they didn't directly buffed it but it became op because it's the build that synergy with radiance the best

signal kite
#

What if we had a rare that gives starting rage up to 100%

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What if we could form a team of some of our heroes and each hero provides diff stat boost according to their ability like tarka in team means +10 % atk kurumi +200 health type shii , and after death we could rely using beeds to one of those hero's that we have selected in team instead of using the same hero

molten night
hidden creek
signal kite
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Bruh why lol I mean they can launch something like that in any next season Wuchen_maid_byCrimsonrain

hidden creek
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i mean it serves no purpose at all, like ok it make runs easier but then what? we're already oblirating everything with curios

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and if you're talking about yama race then when everyone got 100% rage at the start then what's the difference with everyone 0%?

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not to mention making a perfect build will be even harder

signal kite
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Faster run more chaos Wuchen_maid_byCrimsonrain

molten night
signal kite
hidden creek
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so you just grab 3x highest damage dealers

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there's no need for tanker or healer

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just burst the boss down, defuse parry and dodge everything

amber terrace
hidden creek
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which is why i was recommending raid settings for naraka showdown

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like yknow, proper raid settings like in MMOs

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unskipable mechanics which will force you to solve it with teamwork

signal kite
signal kite
hidden creek
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the potential is huge, heck we could even do a party of 6

amber terrace
hidden creek
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but they just won't listen

signal kite
hidden creek
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we lack players because what they did to the game is BAD

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not because the game itself doesn't have the potential to literally be the BIGGEST game out there

signal kite
amber terrace
chrome seal
valid patio
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help me showdown rank?

amber terrace
#

yay, get new keng keng tmr

tribal venture
#

make parts destroyable for other bosses iinstead of just from that water lizard
we could've destroyed stone monk arms

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oh that one hammer guy also have a backpack that can be destroyed

hidden creek
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yeah, and more aoe fullscreen attack
more mechanics that you can only pass by solving it with teamwork, not just defuse and parry

tribal venture
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or just bruteforce

hidden creek
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and less res, and time attack

tribal venture
hidden creek
fair jungle
#

i need to go goalazo

hollow herald
#

What would give you material for level breakthrough?

hidden creek
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weekly quest

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and event

rapid widget
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looking for 1 for showdown

cerulean temple
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who wants to do some SND , everyone is so slow omg , even while choosing heroes

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i waste 20-30 sec waiting for that

hidden creek
cerulean temple
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yuh but i need to do it under 1 min 10 sec

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or something like that , fast fast

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xD

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i notice , people take forever to load into the map also

kind escarp
hidden creek
hidden creek
cerulean temple
barren kestrel
#

Hey good morning everyone anyone up from NA server to do some showdown paragon 2

fierce light
#

Stacking pure armor on Shayol would be inefficient. You'd want to at least pair it with DMG to Bosses if you're not going for Crit stats.

Every 500 Armor (at Hero Level >20) or 589 Armor (at Hero Level <21), the shield throws damage would increase by +3%.

So 3 WF + Armor would be

  • 200 × 2.5 × 7 / 500 × 0.03 = 7 × 0.03 = 0.21
    a +21% increase.

You start with 3,220 Armor at Hero Level 24, so that's an initial +18% increase on shield throws. Altogether that's a 39% increase for a 1.39 total DMG multiplier.

  • (3,220 + 3,500) / 500 × 0.03 = 6,720 / 500 × 0.03 = 13 × 0.03 = 0.39

Now if you went 2 WF + Armor + DMG to Bosses, you'd have

  • Shield Throw Bonus: (3, 220 + 200 × 2 × 7) / 500 × 0.03 = 6,020 / 500 × 0.03 = 12 × 0.03 = 0.36
  • DMG to Bosses: 0.05 × 7 × 2 = 0.70
  • Total DMG Multiplier: (1 + 0.36) × (1 + 0.70) = 2.312
    a total DMG multiplier of 2.312, a massive increase from 1.39.
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My calculations as far as Crit goes assumes you hit around your average Crit Rate. You could always Crit fish for a faster run with more focus on Crit DMG, but generally speaking, the more hits you have to do, the less feasible that would be. Not only would your Crits have to align, but also the boss RNG.

small parcel
#

hi guys I'm new did anyone have kylin zhang build ❤️

fresh field
#

Wait i remember you once say every 1000armor = +3% shield thows, i always belived that, now i have 6300, ult ative is 12600~, and now you say it 500

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Tobe honest that not so bad, i just missunderstood and tell people wrong information

radiant carbon
cerulean temple
radiant carbon
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I know I’m implying I don’t understand how it takes so long 😅

chrome seal
amber terrace
chrome seal
fresh field
#

Có vẻ như con chatGPT cũng ko đáng tin lắm

signal kite
amber terrace
rotund forge
#

Wuchen_maid_byCrimsonrain build sometin like shayol

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Or ice justina

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Build kylin when inferno comes

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Bebu_angry_byWayayron but if u still wanna go ahead then go to pins and find darkzero guide

rotund forge
fierce light
dire jay
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Có ai farm k

limpid pecan
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@fierce light how are the multipliers of new jades?

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are they additive or multi?

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can we make playable build with them?

amber terrace
limpid pecan
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and if so what would be other 4 jades

fierce light
amber terrace
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bruh, why not 3x wf

fierce light
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So they don't drag down their team (as much) haha

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Just realized with this you don't have Soul Shiver. I guess with max Armor you wouldn't need it, but it'll be rough building back up till Curios come.

amber terrace
amber terrace
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with F restore you 5

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can replace shoul shiver with sub-zero if you has heal

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heng sword - aerial dash will OP if just need 1 defuse

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3 defuse so long

cerulean temple
#

how much armor does basalt armor give ?

fierce light
cerulean temple
#

is it better to run that with sub zero seal instead of soul shiver ?

amber terrace
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sub-zero no need

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to give u 20% atk

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but with sub-zero u will lost if <50% HP

cerulean temple
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I dont think so tho

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U got 100% still

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Might be 250 hp instead of 1000

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But still full health

fierce light
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Soul Shiver needs Sub-Zero Seal to function

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You replace Soul Shiver with Basalt Armor once Curios are back.

amber terrace
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oops i wrong with other jades

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mistake by renewed vigor

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lol

signal kite
#

got quite a few of diz Takeda_SipTea

signal kite
#

wish trade was a thing

cerulean temple
#

So ( Dual Spirit Marks / Four Spirits Converge / Threefold Gathering / Element Surge / Soul Shiver / Sub-Zero Seal ) is the meta build for shayol ?

#

and general sap ?

fickle linden
fierce light
#

That's sad

cerulean temple
#

lets go enigma peak anyone ?

signal kite
#

Ohh yea I have to clear new peak , totally forgot about it and didn't touch it at all

cerulean temple
#

lets go ?

signal kite
signal kite
cerulean temple
robust plover
#

soo can someone explain to me what the white tiger and draco buff do? i really cant tell

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nvm i think i know

fierce light
dark dust
#

@fierce light can you send link to showdown builds?

misty bridge
plain spire
#

my scorching jade Matari_Pepe_Laugh

fierce light
#

Wow, I don't think it's worth 4 Rares on one jade for Scorching builds.

plain spire
#

I just put it there since it's one of the core jade for scorching build. And i have so much flux from wrong rare rolls. 😅 If i don't get the right rare roll i deconstruct it to not waste my resources, i find it a better resource management than rerolling rares to max stats. imo

fierce light
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It's technically the flex jade for Scorching builds. It got replaced with Backfire when Curios rolled out to make use of the low health dmg bonus

topaz hound
safe coyote
#

if I want to max this beyblade build, should I focus on attack/melee damage/boss damage ?

fierce light
amber terrace
#

yea, finally i has new keng keng effect

viscid wraith
subtle wharf
fair jungle
drifting lanceBOT
#

🎉 | da leveled up!

ember sapphire
#

What is the best souljade and potential set for Ziping Yin?

#

i use this randomly Tianhai_KimchiDerp

fickle linden
#

this new souljade skin so much better than first one

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but still souljade skins trash idea

fierce light
quaint girder
#

I'm looking at the new crit builds

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wow they really threw a wrench at old builds.

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At this point you might as well sack to salvage some Flux Fragments then reroll that 4 mod jade for each element

limpid pecan
#

idk about this

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do u really want almost half ur justina dashes to f up ur cooldown

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when farming weak mobs

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if u playing ice build u prob just farming enigma

quaint girder
#

I am using Ice Zippy

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just braindead spin2win

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I miss lotus

hidden creek
#

ok i def gonna get the 14 wf kylin build before curio became available again

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now at 10

willow mason
#

Think they'll redesign the old one?

chrome seal
quaint girder
#

Lotus, blooms auto target nearby enemies

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Can catch hidden enemies or enemies that fall off a cliffside so you don't have to go down and hit them.

fierce light
#

Probably could still get away with it. 2 Blossom Blasts should proc Ice Blast on small mobs.

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Other than that, it'll serve to boost your accumulation rate.

kind escarp
#

lol just got one of these for the 1st time 💀

lofty hemlock
#

Hi, would anyone give me a hand with some Conquest levels I'm still on Hard, thanks

signal kite
limpid pecan
#

any content except yama leaderboard

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her ult with chain crush do sufficient burst dmg

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to kill bosses

signal kite
#

Then y not yama ToT

limpid pecan
#

and even if u dont kill them outright, u can safely spam dash

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i mean in yama u will probably get outperformed by other builds

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like last season top justina spots were taken by thunder mark build with radiance flow

signal kite
#

Yeap that thing was terrifying T^T

fierce light
#

She's still lacking a Curio for it in Trios. Demon Mark becomes less reliable with more players

signal kite
#

This season she'll get her own Justina_doctorhelp

ivory wharf
#

are the droprates for snd different between normal/hard outside of the 30/45 fatigue difference (50% more)?
thinking of spamming out normals instead of hard

chrome seal
viscid wraith
chilly kestrel
amber terrace
#

Yo

amber terrace
#

lol, jianghu wine on mobile

covert olive
#

Excuse me, can someone slap a Wuchen build for this season on me

valid roost
#

Builds can be found on the website found in the pins, and filtered to show only Wuchen builds

viscid wraith
#

his BIS right now is threefold

covert olive
lofty hemlock
#

Anyone for Holoroth or Morus?

zinc viper
fickle linden
tribal scroll
#

anyone can help in doom domain to get a star ?

tribal scroll
versed barn
#

what your server?

#

cuz i am on EU

tribal scroll
#

ae bro

versed barn
#

well , you can come EU so i do all your doom without lags

tribal scroll
versed barn
#

as you wish

tribal scroll
#

anyone ?

kind escarp
chilly kestrel
crimson pumice
drifting lanceBOT
#

🎉 | YuuLeh leveled up!

chilly kestrel
#

right before eos

safe coyote
#

dang i thought my luck is shiet until this show up

kind escarp
rotund forge
signal kite
covert olive
#

i totally didnt watch the build properly 💀 so i was stacking poison blast and stuff....gotta go remove it for the x7 crit rate, crit dmg and boss dmg

chrome seal
fickle linden
rotund forge
fiery light
#

How are you suposed to get this boss ther?

chrome agate
fiery light
chrome agate
fiery light
#

if there werent enough reasons to dislike that map ^^

kind escarp
#

oh yes...i remember always getting lost in that map when i was new

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still hate the grey part of it

valid roost
#

I got jumpscared by the game remembering these exist and dropping one in showdown

#

Actually more horrifying than the boogeyman at this rate

kind escarp
#

i was like wtf is this

valid roost
#

Note to self, I did nothing different other than listen to David Bowie's Heathen as I grinded SND for the remaining fatigue, and the track Afraid was up next, the same time I got jumpscared

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Is the game self aware?