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Nothing haha
But it can be upgraded to Inferno hero to get their Curio abilities.
he was a bit inaccurate, the abilities in nirriti are just the red extreme jades, first introduced in capture the spirit well i believe
they are not even available for every hero
i mean its just rng
u need to pick useless rock then get lucky and get offered inferno hero later
Well, if it happens it happens
u also need to play tarka/viper/temulch/matari/kurumi
im not sure if yoto/justina can get it
Wait there is kurumi too?
I remember only 4
so uhh with shayol you pops V, throw shields, then use skill and defuse/parry to regen armor to throw more shields?
that's how her gameplay supposed to be?
Yeah in her ult
Without her dedicated build
https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSuV5AqwL/
You'd want to replace Soul Shiver with Basalt Armor when Curios are back.
Attributes
- x7 [Windfall], x6 Armor, x5 Attack, x5 DMG to Bosses, & x5 Rage/DMG

she is not the only heng sword user meh outside of ult 
you leave my boy alone 
though i'm wondering if you can run something like a hybrid tscorch on shay
tscorch with szs and the armor jade thingy
Kylin at least has some decent AoE without relying on his Skill. But also Musket to fast charge his ult
Wonder how Blazing Flame scales with Basalt Armor
is it worth it to run the jade that uhh convert 75% of ur additional hp to armor?
i guess not, every 1000 armor increase the shield throw dmg by only 3%
im not sure about the order of math
but in her ult she gets bonus 70% and another 30% from 21
so it would be 6 basically
at least
Atm no. With Curios though it should be worth
how do her ult/21/basalt armor interact?
Every 1000 Armor increases the Dmg Coefficient of her Ult's Skill by 3%
yeah but i mean they increase armor by percentage each
is every factor multiplicative fully?
or they add together
It goes something like this:
DMG Coefficient ×
ROUNDDOWN(Armor / 1000) × 3% ×
(1 + Attack%) ×
(1 + DMG Bonus)
i dont quite understand this part
(Armor / 1000 - Armor % 1000)
u mean % as modulo
?
and it doesnt really answer my question
if i have 2000 armor, then i take lvl 21 and ult and i also have basalt armor
what will be my end armor value?
So a build with +1400 Armor, +28% Attack, +35% DMG to Bosses would deal:
45.00 ×
(1 + ROUNDDOWN((3,220 + 1,400)/1000) × 3%) ×
(1 + 28%) ×
(1 + 35%)
=
45 × (1 + ROUNDDOWN(4620 / 1000) × 3%) × 1.28 × 1.35
45 × (1 + (4) × 3%) × 1.28 × 1.35
45 × 1.12 × 1.28 × 1.35
87.0912
Yeah modulo, it only considers every multiple of 1000
Changed it to just ROUNDDOWN cause the formula wasn't right
yep thats why i was confused
2000 Armor total with Basalt Armor? Or at base from Attributes?
it could easily go like minus thousands %
well imagine i have 2000 armor, doesnt matter what source
or it could be any other number
Base Armor at Showdown Level 100 is 2720 at Hero Level <24 and 3,220 at Hero Level 24+.
ok then 4k
for simple math
its not really important
im just wondering how 21 + ult + basalt will multiply the armor
basalt is 75% armor right?
Base Health is 2,720. Hero Level > 10 gives +20% Health total. So that gives you 3,264 Health with no other bonuses.
Basalt removes 75% of your Health and returns half of that as Armor
So 37.5% × 3,264 = 1,224 Armor
So just from being Hero Level 24 and Showdown Level 100, you'd have 4,444 Armor when equipping Basalt Armor.
Ah I forgot to include the double armor in my calcs
21 and ult are additive?
Yeah, but it's the only source of Armor%
So it goes x1.7 Armor in Ult at <21 and x2.0 Armor in Ult at 21+
ok so basically
everything else is flat armor value
and then at the end i slap x2 on top of it
and call it a day
so if i were to maximize value of basalt armor - i would want to stack hp % also?
like going something like
armor/hp/attack windfall
on everything
Yeah, Verve banner gives a lot of Rage/DMG already so could probably swap that for Health

Im trying to run a Tianhai Thunder Build.
Fairly new. So some of the concepts (Diffuse, Threefold, Demons Bane, etc) are foreign concepts to me. Im about to finish Hard Mode for showdown. Atm im NUKING bosses with the swarms deadeye.
Running Deadeye and the 3rd tree that does elemental stuff.
Currently have
ThunderPull, Thunder Counter, Skyforce, Boltshot, Backfire, Thunderproof, and Staff Onslaught.
Any recommendations and stuff?
Okay I fixed the calcs, it looks like
x7 [Windfall], x6 DMG to Bosses, x5 Attack, x5 Armor, & x5 Health
would be the most optimal set up with
Renewed Vigor, Pestilent Pool, Element Surge, Miasma Drive, Basalt Armor & Sub-Zero Seal during Curios for Shayol's dedicated build.
-# Use Soul Shiver instead of Basalt Armor in the meantime.
Her build with no Windfalls is about 7.6% weaker than the build with 7 Windfalls. So if you just want to play around with it without heavy investment, you can run that.
- Unless you're using Onslaught to charge up your Thundershock faster while your Deadeye is down, Swarm · Scorching Sting would be better as your Mastery Jade in terms of pure damage on the Swarm. It's a very slight increase though, so not necessary.
- Bolt Shot is kind of garbage. If you have Bolt Mastery, that would be a big improvement.
- Skyforce is kind of overkill when you include the heal from Deadeye Prowess. Something like Renewed Vigor, Craftmanship, Repair Roll or any general utility/damage boosting jade would help more.
There is an end-game build for the Swarm, but I don't think you have access to all the jades it needs till the later half of Nightscream.
Sadly I dont have bolt mastery, or scorching sting.
What would you swap skyforce for.
Depends on what you have really, either something that provides stats or helps with ammo management.
What would you say is best? The repair roll? I JUST unlocked nightscream.
Or maybe blessed?
Ngl I really want the flintlocks in showdown
🎉 | Fallen.Ashes leveled up!
The better pistol
Guess they didn't feel like adding another Deadeye
@fierce light I'm ready now!
Okay, loading in.
My bad game was giving me an error
I noticed Shayol restores Armor from Defuses/Counterstrikes even outside of her Ult
Wonder if that's a bug or they put a typo on that.


someone wanna go open chapter?
can
man nvm...i Don't think i will be able to clear niri legend sub 6mins
there goes my hair


Hey the reduce maximum deadeye is pretty lit with pistol
I could've done sub-6 if I didn't die. But also the constant lag and crashes every other run doesn't help.
Lv. 24 & 25 probably will help the run a lot too, but not sure I want to invest in Shayol that much
it takes me about 2 -3 minutes just to even connect in there 😭
and there's no point just participating if u can't do sub 6mins
cuz best rewards r only 1st and 2nd and there r a lot of sub 6mins already
@balmy coral nirriti ruin?
i'd give it a shot but
i already have police skin
and better hairstyle
sooo yeah
shiet, don't catch me
she's perfect
im dumping box choice gifts slowly
till extreme
i got like 50 more to go
oh ye..that hair looks good...all my hairs r kind of traditional ones
non of them fit the gym one
i mean regular purple ones r ok too ig
this is all xbox's fault for breaking the payment systems
what?
i mean if they didnt break the payment systems i wouldve bought a good one 
i missed both last bps cuz of this bs
and i might miss this showdown pass as well now
fugging hell
oh no
Morning! Need help 🙂
I have been grinding for quite some time but still at 10/13 secret nirriti cards. I have :
Spirit sap, divinity guard, last chance, sheer momentum, boltcall charm, atomizer, fatal finish, specter arisal, aqua chains, avarice
Which ones am I missing?
check pins
I like the one from last ying yang pool more
🎉 | Fabels leveled up!
reversal shayol one?
Ye I think so
The one where she was w Justina
Hmm
Might be the case too
I got it black so kinda hard to tell
then it could be that one
Ok thank you
Possible
i don't like most of her hairs tbh
I don't like HER
Hair is fine
I used to like her before the ult team shield buff actually
And tbf she's pretty fun in PvE rn
But after that buff
I hate her the most
well its kind of my 1st time using her ever so she's new to me
Ok I'm assuming you don't play PvP so I see what you mean
lol i hate her voice lines the most
yeah if i played pvp id just use tessa or yoto
it is the yinyang hair in fact
Yes try playing duo or trio against shayol
Got it
Was hard to tell cause of the color

Or rather the cap probably actually
whats funny i only wanted mask and hair from yinyang
i pulled 3 for gold and got both
stonks
yeah lol
ye the base hair is xd
best one for me is prob her yin yang one
hope new ying yang pool so best
or anything that doesn't make her look like a bad lesbian stereotype
there was that whitish one
pretty decent imo
im using it, it's pretty meh
compared to the rest...fine imo
someone wanna go open chapter?
meanwhile i'm using a purple rated skin
u only have holoroth ones left right?
i do want to do my dailies now idk
not sure cuz my game language are VN
it is the top left purple section on map
manticore,yushan etc one
yes it is
well i can join maybe later
3 chapter left
i bet its furry one and new 2 chps
sure then
i kind of fixed my connection so i might not disconnect as often like yesterday lol
i have like 1 hour left
okay gibe me like 5 mins..ill login


hi 
Anyone knows which jades are nedeed for shayol's dedicated build?
And potential tree?
Is it good enough to be meta or just works for new people in showdown?
hello
not sure if it is stronger than tscorch
i assume its the poison build u r talking about
Doesn't she have a shield ult build? Or im on copium

this is a shield ult build too
and there's that threefold mark one...not sure
Could Somone Recommend me 2, potentially 3 builds.
(For nightscream and up)
-
Tianhai Thunder Element Build. (Ideally both melee and swarm, but probably swarm due to insane dps)
-
Yueshan Ice/Rage Build
If its not Possible/viable then a Ice Build and a Rage Build. (This one is ideally just Melee/combos)
should mention im fairly new so some of the unique mechanics i dont understand yet
- Tianhai can use Thunder Scorch Surge. It doesn't care if you use Staff or Swarm (Swarm will be higher dps while Deadeye is active, Staff while it's not).
- Yueshan can use Ice Surge. When fully built, you can use your Skill every 4s to gain lots of Rage and deal decent damage.
The builds are listed on here.



I'm getting ever closer to getting sub 2 minutes in Nirriti Hard
What hero/build? I'm assuming it's tarka range?
Cannon ranged build, frankly doesn't matter if Tarka Ji or Yueshan
I guess Tarka Ji is a smidge better just in case you need to throw out a fireball to save time
Tarka prolly better cause he has 6 fireballs in ult
Ye
I don't even bother activating ult
That's a damage loss compared to just firing cannon and dash canceling between shots in downtime
How come no one played that since december
They didn't add anything new to the cannon build
But it's only now that I see ppl talking about that
Should be good for inferno too isn't it
Cannon clears mobs extremely easily, especially in Nirriti where all the areas are enclosed
and yeah it's definitely good in TI, just I don't think anyone actually has the resources to make a cannon build
Yes I get it
But why did no one talk about this before
Or am I delulu
Especially when the game doesn't really incentivize it
I think it's simply just there's no mob clearing content beyond TI
But it also works in enigmas too
It does, could be argued it messes with keeping bosses spawning in the same area when you kill so many enemies at once that it builds the meter too fast
But I don't have a cannon build to test or verify that
True that's another point
Against a boss, probably a good idea to use it. Multiplies your damage by 1.1, fireballs do another 1.1 for 10s.
I converted all my 600purple keys into golden
And now I can't play enigma beyond 150% rewards cause rewards are too sheet
And nirriti is boring
Huh, didn't realize that damage increase tbh, I always assumed it was a damage loss because of the activation time and you'd never want to throw the fireballs themselves
If it's enough damage it's probably not enough of a concern to matter if you kill mobs that fast
Yeah but walking around to other spots is basically wasting time
Not that much tbf but the point stands
Fireballs apply a debuff called vulnerable that makes the enemy take more damage from everything (including teammates). Ult just buffs yourself.

@fierce light very nice website
yeah can clear having just base stats
tried the new poison cannon build yesterday...i think it is kind of better
some one free
help me with doom full 9 star
Btw about tarka ult for deadeye
I realized it just now
Not sure if some of you guys know since there's a lot of ppl on this thread who don't play PvP but you can dash after the shooting animation and do next shot faster than waiting for animation to unlock cause that's what his ult does
So it's definitely worth using his ult
Fireball just 1 is probably enough tho to debuff the enemy
But ult also gives +10% attack
do u know how to do that dodge back/forward and it does a faster attack while in deadeye...i still am not sure how
wdym?
there's a special attack when u dodge back...it immediately attack front...and if u dodge forward it will immediately shoot behind
wow
well it is cool but everytime i did it...it was an accident...im not sure how to do it intentionally
that call perfect dodge
while u in deadeye, perfect dodge make u use cannon leap w/o heat consume btw
yes...ig it only triggers after u do a leap attack maybe
im not sure but it anima ring maybe
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maybe that's what duck man said
oh i see that explained in douyin video
in V slightly agility
that why
so just shoot once and dodge?
yup
okay...ill try later
u can call that cancel dodge
Yes
Exactly that
Ty
Cannon will shoot in the opposite direction that you dodge if you do it after aiming down sights or shooting.
If you want to do the leap dodge, you can activate it this way as well.
PvP badges?
yup

For reaching top 3 ?
All dashes in cannon deadeyes sense shots in the opposite direction. It’s not specific to a perfect dodge.
Perfect dodge specifically, launches you in the air.
was having trouble about the opposite shots thingy
Basically your cannon has to be "unsheathed" to do it's special dodges.
oh...so thats a thing too..was wondering y it doesnt work sometimes
16 minutes
tysm
@fierce light heyyy
damn it sucks that speedrun is locked during early season so we gotta do the 2nd doom lol
Is it not opening this week?
i tink yall uwu
next month i think
God I’m not even lvl 90 yet and I’m already sick of ruins
The crashes and lagginess is not helping

what is the best build now?
That fact that it’s happening to me in solos now really ticks me off

Hard to say. Each build has its own niche is specializes in:
- Ice Surge: still possibly the strongest mobbing build.
- Thunder Scorch Surge: very versatile build that any hero can use to output decent damage.
- Thunder Mark/Seal: very strong for solo bossing.
- Threefold Thunder: high burst damage build, good for taking out tanky enemies quick.
Since i unfortunately missed my own message - is there a way to auto-lock specific jades?
thank you
🎉 | Mouad! leveled up!
nope...have to do it manually
I kinda wished they had a scrap all of one jade except the ones I locked
So I can just lock it if it looks good and then garbage desposal everything else instead of double checking twice
Well they kind of have that
You just press the select all Epics/Legendaries toggle in the Mass Deconstruct screen and then it'll go for the ones you don't have locked
Bruh, they ended Yama's on another mob stage
We got so many bosses and they do this smh
welp
Ohh new Nirriti content? 
Nirriti update in big 26? NO fugging way 
btw 60 fatigues spent
bruhh
Viper

she can step on me haha
back off..me 1st
wowie
Inor in Showdown
Yesss
he would be so cool
Hate that fr💯
Just like shayol in pvp

Ah Inor Wan confirmed next interesting
Nice they're finally updating ruins, hopefully it fixes the performance too
They really need to enable key drops in Tempered Infenro]
Whoa
peak content
I hope this means they got rid of a lot of useless Anima Rings as well.
Maybe we need Viper rework
Cause if they just combined the good ones, it's going to make it even more annoying to get good builds
i thought it was just a new inner world thing
Well the Aegis-break buff is nice. Probably should just increase the DMG Coefficient of her Skill from 9 to 12, other than that though, she feels decent.
I hope not, it has limited runs cause of Phase Runes.
new ring
dual
Hmm

Can I say she's the weakest? What I'm thinking is a rework like Valda's that would make her stronger in using her skills.
@fierce light lol, 2 boss in stage at nirriti innerworld
Her Curio needs a rework, I wouldn't say she's the weakest though. Kurumi probably fits that better atm, even though she has the strongest buffs.
so inor might join next month..finally can use him
I don't thinnk so
You may wait until next ss
hmm..but we got 2 last time too tho
we usually get 2 heroes per season
no
nope it's not new 
This is a tradition; this season only lasts 3 months, so only one hero is released. The next season will be 6 months long...you know
Nice, all Ruins will consume 60 fatigue
Still wish they would increase the ones for the higher difficulties though
dual ring so good
Weird they put Inor Wan in the season details, instead of the Ruins Update.
daguq
Unless he is coming this season
hydroflare so strong
final boss dead in 1s
even don't show HP bar and dead
lol
Yeah it just needs Blazing Flame to be good.
but we got 2 last short season as well tho
every ring can trigger hydroflare
Noice
Did they get rid of any rings?
Also do Anima Ring saves go away after you use them?
it looks like u can use the ones u had in normal mode
ps? thats so random wtf
was expecting him to have knives
i was expecting heng
but whatever it is as long as it's not gs/ps
BUT IT IS PS
🤮
whats the ranged one
maybe save when u go nirriti same difficult
Polesword not as bad as Greatsword at least. Not reliant on Torrent Flow like Greatsword is on Aerial Rend.
so how does the anima save option work?
last match u play
ig it autosaves after playing in regular
and what u do with them after u save them?
it bring into innerworld at beginer
does innerworld have any special drops/higher drops

They both consume 60 fatigue. so wondering that too
i think drop rate increase
consistent crystal drops? 
yea
9 crystals/match
Well, Enigma Domain is still technically better cause it drops more Souljades per Fatigue.
hope its not a big april 1st joke
Just realized they have the Carved Crystal rate listed
oh you can craft previous seasons curio even if you missed it
Is it consistent now?
Inor Wan will be added to Showdown ugh. I wanted Cyra
From Random Craft?
I hope not, cause that'll make it a nightmare to level the new ones
sure
dunno, they just said there will be a way
also they're optimizing ''basic'' stages
so they're worth to play
Finally
They still didn't give Nightscream/Legend an increased fatigue cost or drop rate though, so still not really worth playing
Aside from Nightscream specific jades
I lack understanding, sir. may thou explain thy knowledge for this ignorant person
we got justina at start of the season and kylin a month later
if u think otherwise please enlighten me with a source
a "debate war" ahh moment but i afraid i can't stay with thee til the long last of moments, Let's leave it for another time.
lol lazy ass..okay wtv 

i think i can't post image 18+ pose in here

yes...u gonna get a hammer from mods

So schewpid
Gadamn inor getting the ps??
I hope he gets blistering edge built in at least
Knives are prolly reserved for xunhuan. Maybe he's to arrive next
Weapons aren't necessarily the most important thing, his playstyle revolves around transformation, right?
Hopefully
Well feeling bad outside of Ult can still give a bad feeling
Like Shayol for example
Polesword is a good weapon though imo. It's Vertical Charged Attacks hit quite hard
I actually like shayol and don't use her ult
Thunder scorch is very good cause 1charge attack+f charges the element already
For me it's her enhanced defuse. Idc about huanyue kinda bosses anymore thx to her
The chain block is really very nice
It makes her feel pretty meh in mobbing stages in Ruins
Yes there she is sheet indeed
So is viper
The Ult is satisfying, but she lacks a fast way to charge it like Yueshan for example.
wish she had the cannon
So are lots of heroes depending on build
True
Viper can make use of Ice Surge in Enigma and Hydroflare in Ruins
not dagger can already . I cant play that weapon
Ưell new hero, they will give him new mechanic. He's will have better gameplay while not on his ult
Her ult is still bad even tho not entirely useless
Yueshan is still pretty strong, can charge his attacks while running, which can help a lot in Enigma and in Ruins he has Cannon + his Ult which can semi-perma stun bosses with Thunder Blessing.
yeah...stun not working on bosses is just bs
Ok bro you got this
Fairly no chance for me to argue with you haha

Viper's Ult does need a slight buff, but it's pretty much usable in any build.
Ig Shayol could use Ice Surge for mobbing. Main issue with her really is just lack of AoE outside of Ult
Survival build should work well with ult in ruins tho no?
But Verve Banner should make her pretty usable in TI
Element > Lotus > Armor for Shayol pretty much in Ruins.
I hope they'll add stats recast for curios this season
I pretty much never got a perfect curio since TI ever began
Too many Curios at this point for this full rng system
I got lucky with Matari Curio last season, but wasn't till the last fatigue I got a Radiance Flow Curio with all the stats I want, not even perfect though
Would like to be able to run Enigma with Curios
It would be good to have a recast of the Curios, I got one that was "perfect" but the elemental accumulation was useless on my Akos...
Huhhhh
Are you meaning to say curios don't work in enigma?
They do
Yeah that's what we need
I just wasn't able to run it trying to get a perfect Radiance Flow
Ahh oki I see what u mean
Cause yeah curios work in enigma
Perfect ones for Thunder Scorch Surge.
Was lowkey hoping it would've been Xunhuan Li added next but I'll take whatever dudes get added at this point
They'll add whoever they want, a long time ago many of humanity believed the collaborator wouldn't join and 24E said NO.
The slap in the face for us was Yoto Hime. now we're not going to guess anymore, we're just waiting.
Man writing in this drama style is really tiring.

We need a female cannon wielder. I am tiree of these men cannon-ing Nirriti's!
Best we can do is pistols
Do they even like have anything special for ranged weapons, don't they all use the same moveset?
Like I feel like you should be able to choose your ranged weapon
there goes my hype for him
i hate polesword in showdown 🙁
i remember when yueshan was strongest hero in showdown i could never play him because polesword 🙁
Dev give inor ps have a reason
Like yueshan he play by ult not weapon
But yueshan in former deal less damage i think
Polesword still one of the stronger weapons in Showdown tbh
devs do alot of stuff without reason in naraka
i just hate how it feels
not smooth at all
Only Whipsword has stronger Charged Attacks.
So the problem isn't with the game, it's with you.
yeah that's why i said "there goes MY hype" and "I hate polesword"
It's not because the road is difficult to travel, but because we gradually forget why we started.
Wow, Shayol's build feels pretty busted in Enigma
Haven't even recasted anything yet
things start to change when u have deadeye on ofc
bow doing tweaking, musket literally flying, crossbow have some bs too..nobody cares about that...and cannon have one of the coolest moveset in deadeye
Ranged player is gey
bro took whole 5mins to type that shyt
Sr i sleep on a keyb
Have a nice dream sir, im goona hit the béd
why would i see dreams when u r the one sleeping 😭
I meant between heroes
Just feels like ranged weapons should be a choice
Exactly

But yeah its not like any of them except for Valda does anything particularly unique, so I don't see a reason to lock it
If they go crazy then they go crazy
Even then Valda isn't doing anything with the weapon except shooting it
Not summoning a ghost ship and calling a barrage
woah, congrats! all gold substats. too bad we can't use the effects atm T_T
that would be so cool tho 
if it was possible ill just use musket/cannon and maybe bow on everyone
rest is just trash
i dont really understand why they cant make the counterattack long range
for pistol and crossbow
yeah..i mean it looks kinda cool and all but it takes forever and so awkward to use
Anyone know the best souljades for justina gu with the new paramount souljades ?
🎉 | Uruma leveled up!
Why can't they just increase deadeye gain per bullet added in
Surely, it couldn't kill anyone to just make it scale per bullet in the pistol
Pistol Deadeye needs a rework of the whole thing
I think its literally for the fact it can't headshot and just adding more bullets just increases dmg alright
For a gun thats just center of mass, its really lacking in the whole dump and pump
Pump and dump
The rate of fire is also way too slow for PVE tbh, given how slow it takes to build up deadeye
- The Deadeye attack mechanic is buggy as it is affected by lag.
- Pistol does less damage in Deadeye the more of its dedicated jades you put on.
- The DPS of Pistol is all around bad, especially compared to other ranged weapons.
- The Counterstrike has trouble even registering in Free Training when you've landed the kick or not.
- It takes 15 fully charged shots (65 Ammo) or 32 uncharged shots (32 Ammo) to fully charge Deadeye with no Pistol jades.
It honestly feels like they made it bad intentionally.
im not sure about new jades...but ice surge is good on her
its just there for the aesthetics
They'll buff it by just giving us an IRL pistol skin like they did musket with the rifle skin
pistol,crossbow vs rest
well imo even musket is only good if u do the flying thing or play tscorch as valda
hitbox is pretty trash
New Paramount jades would likely be weaker than Ice Surge or Thunder Mark builds on her. Threefold is more focused on using your Martial Skills often, which she prefers using her Skill more
but the mechanic is applying burn with each counter , cuz it kind of have that slip force when u counter and its so good cuz her soak dont run out
Semi related but with the new anima rings in Nirriti like soaked on yin yang, I mean hopefully the yin yang rings are actually usable moving forward
They always feel like crap to use
yeah only used them when i wanted to complete the collection
Assuming you can even use it in the first place with a given play style you're going for, since ranged can't use it at all, and someone like Matari has to go out of her way to use it
Yin Yang is pretty good for trios
You shred Aegis even in Legend
And you group mobs
I play more solos than I do trios so that's probably why
ohh..now imagine the combo with hydroflare 💀
Solos yin yang feels marginally better at best to me
Let the devs give us more OP ways of cooking Nirriti so it's more fun
If they're willing to put heaven rings in the mode then clearly powercreep isn't a concern for that mode
So not having surge added by now is kinda weird
wait a minute...does hydroflare even benifit by having no armor
now that i think about it...it is kind of useless
maybe not...have to see ig
maybe it would be op...idk about yin yang anyway so can't tell
Okay thank you
C’mon polesword isn’t that bad. 
Well Burn doesn't benefit from broken Aegis. So it's kind of an iffy combination.
If anything, with the Defuse Burn ring, you want the boss to be active more.
i like it in pvp just not in showdown 
me either
What, I somewhat dislike it in pvp but in pve its fun
Builds do the hard work, weapons are just kinda there
yeah took me a minute to realize that but it might work if it gonna apply soak ig
i remember yinyang having some delayed attack
if it gonna apply soak it would be op
Well Hydroflare does have a Ring that makes Aegis decrease over time when Soaked
So maybe it'll be a strong combination there
But usually just want to spam charged attacks with Hydroflare, so it's kinda weird. Mixing it with Bolt probably would've been better.
i think bolt was mixed with lotus
but also i saw lotus with element rings...so maybe there r more than one combo for each class
Are those mixed cards and other nirriti news happening with this update or later?
Update is next week yes. But my question is if that's arriving next week or later during the season or maybe even just from next season
Lotus with Element makes a lot of sense
It's in the test server already so should be next week
they r in the test server so yeah next week
Ah oki
Inor is coming later tho ig
Probably when enigma peak opens?
Yeah, he's not in the test server, so at least 2 patches from now
Would be weird if they added him right before curios
there might actually be a combo with hydroflare + bolt then...looks like it's not limited to one combo
I wanted them to get rid of useless rings, wasn't expecting them to combine the good ones though.
Really hope they still got rid of the useless ones though cause that just means the RNG is going to give us more bad rings since there's less good ones to choose from.
Tfs this
it gonna give all the bad ones combined as a suicide ring
u don't know the meme?
Nah xd
just google..its pretty old
I think fbi and cia are gonna appear at my door if I google that
bro...its the hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby meme
in simple terms...one is so strong and other is not
one killed so many ppl and other didn't
Oki looks like it's just about comparing extremely unfair matchups
Ye got it xD
but u r not ready for the plot twist
Hit me
the one killed more ppl is not the bomb
So how should I build Shay?
I mean
Statistically that's possibly true
That makes sense
Darkzero already has the builds for her in the guide
Yeah I’ve seen them try to feel out people preferences
Her dedicated is one with upgrading armor and relying on ult
And any other universal like ice surge
Scorch surge
And new jades
I personally always wanted a burn thunder parry build so I went for that
Ice surge works best on Justina in my opinion so I use that only on her
I haven't tried shayols armor build but am not keen on it and people are saying it's bad too
I’m leaning towards the new jade build
For new jades build you gotta get used to the attack and movement patterns
I’m a dark souls enjoyer Lol
It's pretty complicated for me atm so am just playing thunder scorch
Need to play it more to get used to the patterns and work that build around to make it right
I wish they wouldn't end Yama's on so many mobbing stages
Got to use it in Enigma but someone was already bossing, so didn't get a good gauge on Threefold
Sigh I’m still around 20 runs till I max fire forge
We have guide?
Yeah check pins
Nvm i foui it
Aha troll I see
Ahh i though that will be share the danm build
My mistake
I punished myself by drinking first.
Cheers mate
Does the Aegis-Break accumulates element?
Then why Kurumi is is having problem building frost
I always use her Aegis break
Do not mimic me mate
1st of all why kurumi?
There is more than once char accumulates better than her
And if there must be her u can use the...
@chrome seal help me mate, jade soul can shoot yushan iilusion
I fogot name
What are you talking about
Sorry bro I don't understand
More hit your move does, the higher the probability of catching an element burst. So, my question is, why would you even use her Aegis Break which only has 2 hits, instead of a soul slash that has more than 7 hits?
Also, share your potential and soul jade builds with the sub-attributes showing. Let's see what's going on with you.
Oh right.... Instead of a Thunder build, why go Ice on Kurumi? That's the only build you got, the Ice build?
She lacks a damaging Skill to help build it fast.
For example, Kurumi's Horizontal Soul Slash has an accumulation value of 12.10. Tessa's/Yueshan's/Tarka's Skills all have an accumulation value of 12.00, at a base line (Justina & Tessa increase to 15.00 at Lv. 21+).
All enemies have a accumulation threshold based on their type. Passing this threshold is what causes an Elemental Burst:
-# Accumulation on enemies doesn't decay overtime.
- Small Mob (no Astral Aegis): 9.67
- Spawner-Type Mob (Warlocks/Wizards): 29.01
- Elite Mob (has an Astral Aegis): 39.90
- Boss: 39.90
Kurumi's Aegis-break after the recent buff has an accumulation value of 4.40.




@fierce light what dmg threefold scale from?
So whats valda eagis break attack to counts towards threefold?
Dragonslayer/heartstopper dont seem to register


Attack and DMG to Bosses
Dragonslayer/Heartstopper are charged attacks.
Aegis-break turns you golden.
Ah, not sure what bug this was, but cheaters should be handled better from now on
If this change does what I think it does... Kylin is going to be absolutely busted, but also won't want to run Scorching anymore.
The weekly fatique it is
Ah so it'll be on <t:1775001600:F>.
April fool
I found the pinned messages thanks for helping
chinese server?
No
so is it beta server?
will it be released soon?
i posted vid of it yesterday
after update, maybe
Ngl it’s about time he got something
it's ink one
oh yea, i forgot trash gem
Looks good
Ah that's why they buffed his Ult. 

Finnaly done with the nirriti grind now the wait for enigma peaks
Does someone know how you can give your lotus an elemental attribut?
... Damm
Thanks^^
this is just crazy lol
Final boss of Nirriti's Ruin
Cơ bản là Linh hư giới mới sẽ có chế độ: Thách thức, Ác mộng và Truyền kỳ. Các bạn sẽ cần đi trước ít nhất 1 lượt ở chế độ cũ để có thể lấy bản lưu linh quyết và mang bản lưu đó sang chế độ mới. Nếu bản lưu tốt thì có thể sử dụng vĩnh viễn, không th...
bosses melt like butter lol
I just worry if it's going to be a laggy mess with all those animations
They should've made the bolts stronger rather than summoning more
When Will this available in sea server?
noway they listened ( my copium time ) 
its gonna be worse than b4 prob
next week reset
Yeah! something good is cooking
Not blinding enough either, missing Radiance Flow to make playing with shades a requirement
It's not the true authentic Showdown experience if I'm not blinded by everyone else's affects in trios
Are you in US? We could team up I’m also slowly struggling with some missions

Yooo anybody tryna help me in showdown with the first level in domain? Just need 3 three stars.
what server u play mate
may i help if u r sea
yeah its NA
whats your nickname or ID
what does that mean?
do we play same game?
yeah
u have any idea of this
thanks really appreciate this
you think we need a third ? or we good
i added you so we can play in the future i really appreciate it been stuck for 2 days
ok
Woe
this is next just gotta level up 5 more times
i can help that too
just used over 2k frags for 5 wf
okay ima start it up
go no further
ayeee you were destroying everything i just wanna play the shay for now on
sure
can you send me your build ?
Peak Shay
I'm allergic to rich gamers
yeah your shay is insane looking
uhhh not that i know im a returning player so im not too sure on what else to do after you comeplete the story and domains. i think that’ll be all i really appreciate you coming through.
i see
What is the best element for Kurumi?
🎉 | Tamara leveled up!
u again?
for nirriti dat would be thunder 
me with poison 
smelly kurumi 
Wha is Nirritti Ruin Innerworld

a different way to grind the same thing over and over
hey at least is 60 fatigue per run ! 
only with u 
Basically an extended run. But with much better drop rates.
better to be fair
Build does feel really nice when I don’t get controller lock
I ulted on last 3boss and it would not let me perform any actions for a couple seconds
I’m almost half way done with rares every jade has the right attributes just not maxed out yet
Glad to hear it
I think on Shayol, when her Ult is up you just spam her Shield Throws and parry the Divine Thunder to regen armor.
Then back to the normal rotation.
Pretty much
Just so I’m clear on the marks
Gold is counter hit
Blue is defuse hit
Purple is ageis hit
Right?
Yes
Triple Blue hits 25% harder than Triple Purple. Triple Yellow should be avoided

Will the new nirritis ruins take longer to clear?
Cuz we do the hard one in 3 4 min for example , burns 45 fatigue
y u slapping urself u weirdo 

The old one will still be available. Both will consume 60 fatigue.
temmy likes it
if i wanna solo Kurumi nightscream solo whats the build go for Ruins
ranged and/or element 
Element (Thunder) + Lotus is the strongest
okie thanks for help
Bolt and Yin Yang are pretty decent still though
i dont think so. he’s hiding 
holy can someone tell me how to use the special defuse on shaolay , i wanna finish her practice
🎉 | Kirbrbrbr leveled up!
im 2 stupid to figure it out
Hold the button/ let it charge once she has her shield out throw the attack
Feels bad man
wtf
It would've one shot the boss too.
thx god , we can burn fatigue faster
he's yearning for it
thats just ur wish 
@balmy coral thats 3 rank 1 badge playrs

agnivat ice form always hug a wall like that.. so annoying...so u have to wait for her to return or u gonna miss everything
wait wdym
Oh soorryy iam in Asia
If the ping goes good we can try
did u see that green spear like thing falling and missing everything
well its the new jade set
oh.

oh yes btw... potential should be thunder
omg it does so much dmg
Who else feels good on ThreeFold?
yups
wuchen
Noice, carry me
Trash jade
Nah
Hell yah
It’s a fun playstyle to me
you are heavy 
Nooo

Yea but thunder mark funniest
yuh uh 
oh yes funny on 2B
Now on shayol
didn't try on her yet
still 945 fatigues, too lazy
im still below 600
noice
@amber terrace I quit showdown
NOOOO



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Yo what the
Max i got was 3 blessings to 12+ in a single game
Yeap i think it's possible if all party members give their coins to boost 1 single person
can u save these too for next round
Is it not possible to play that mode solo?
I mean without not filling party but actually solo mode
Solo nirriti yeap it's available
Oki. I just thought cause of your comment that new nirriti mode is trio mode only
New nirriti hasn't come yet
It's on test server
Ohh , I've No idea about the new one though
I thought that game he posted screenshot from regular match
The thing is
When I watched flamebane test video yesterday
He played that solo trios
So now I'm wondering
He always does so lol solo trios Enigma domain
no

We can i guess
Ima look now
wow niceee
wow nicee











