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It's the average
I'm working on the full table, but basically Deconstruct First uses ~3.7% less Recasts on Average when working with Double Rares.
Parameters:
- Average Non-Rare Attribute Value before Recasting = 60%.
-# This is the average of the Non-Rare Attributes that aren't intended to be converted to Rare Attributes initially. Such as having 1 at 100% and 1 at 60%. - Average Recasts per Rare Attribute = 89.
- Chance to Get Good Rare Attribute = 1/3.
-# I generate a random number between 0-1 and if it's below 1/3, it counts as a success. - Average Recasts to Max a Non-Rare Attribute = 101.
-# In my code, I use a dynamic function based on the CN graph from earlier instead of using the 101 average.
try also
if one stat
is 90%
@balmy coral TI?
20 mins
All Elemental Blasts have a Base DMG Multiplier of 4.06 (at +6 Wielding).
- Successive Ice Blast increases Ice Blasts to 6.85 (at +6 Wielding).
i forgot what was the "main reward" from this last SND event?
before this one it was the terrible souljade skin
Elixir only what else
just checked in training and its true
was a lil confused bc i had 1 ice and 5 poison and the dmg went from ice 3,4k and poison 10k to 12k poison
looked scuffed
but i think some atk boost proc or smth happened after posion which made ice deal higher dmg
still thank you!
prob atk boost from hero level 25
and he is barely the only one. he is just the most blatant one..
I surely checked the recent snd

ye this and miasma 25atk boost
i think that doesnt boost first poison blast either
Pls better peak next season
pls
better nirriti, better peak
ti is nice
better than ti 1 and ti 2
3 extra boss for topaz is cool
also hero lev 1-20 have 3+3+3+3% atk buffs
need better lfg, atleast own lfg system for ppl who use gold key vs purple key
@amber terrace opening
nirriti? whhat's nirriti?
*prolly the devs
i got 5 crystals from nirriti today with 150% rewards+elixir+easy battle 
Ye ur fuced
boring ahh mode and trash rewards 💩
What about the other stat? My results at 80% should give similar results.
80% could be
- 100% + 60%
- 80% + 80%
- 90% + 70%
etc.
The damage of the Elemental Bursts scales proportionately with your Wielding (excluding Mastery Jade).
Element Multiplier = (1 + [Wielding]) / 7
- +1 Wielding would deal 2/7ths of the damage.
- +6 Wielding does 7/7ths of the damage.
To be more exact, an Elemental Burst has a Base DMG Multiplier of 0.58, and increases by +0.58 for every Wielding you have (excluding Mastery Jade).
i wish we get something better than press parry for golden circle to fist for you
@amber terrace TI?
and accu rate no?
Accumulation Rate just affects how fast you can activate it
i mean idk 90 and 50 maybe
Okay, that would be 70% average, I'll do that.
Yea

Results
10:53:10 AM Info - Test Type: No Deconstruct
Number of Same Rares = 14
Average Non-Rare Attribute Value = 70%
Simulations = 1000000
Average Recasts = 5347.589308
10:53:11 AM Info - Test Type: Deconstruct First
Number of Same Rares = 14
Average Non-Rare Attribute Value = 70%
Simulations = 1000000
Average Left Over Flux Shards = 0.771845
Average Recasts = 4360.670565
10:54:00 AM Info - Test Type: Always Deconstruct
Number of Same Rares = 14
Average Non-Rare Attribute Value = 70%
Simulations = 1000000
Average Left Over Flux Shards = 29.476531
Average Recasts = 4311.610664
10:54:00 AM Info The most optimal strat with these parameters is Always Deconstruct with an average recasts count of 4311.610664.
Here's the newly updated table. Took quite a while cause I did 1 million simulations each instead to reduce the standard error.
Conclusion
When aiming for a Jade with 2 or more Rare Attributes:
- If you have an extra Jade of the same type with an average of 67.5% or higher between its 2 highest Non-Rare Attributes, you should Always Deconstruct when you fail to get the right Rare Attribute, otherwise, you should only deconstruct on First Rare Only, converting failures to maxed Non-Rare Attributes.
When aiming for a Jade with only 1 Rare Attribute: - If you have an extra Jade of the same type with an average of 67.5% or higher between its 2 highest Non-Rare Attributes, you should Always Deconstruct when you fail to get the right Rare Attribute, otherwise convert it to a maxed Non-Rare Attribute.
our humble radiance flow: 
Im mvp all that matters
cuz u playing wuchen
I think I was using the wrong potential

Yep I was now the dmg went up to 8 mil
???
btw @fierce light ur avatar, why was it flashing when i was over NA that one time?
i forgot to ask then
was it just visual bug on my end
because i tried that same avatar and mine didn't flash 

u mean this?
no
it was matari or some other girl
it was new avatar at the time
could be same series as jinu's avatar
I need to gacha
No idea tbh. Idk what avatar I'm even using 😂
you need jesus, stop gacha 
think it was one of these, but they are just images
i think it was just visual bug
i had other bugs that night aswell like the ready thing
it just looked cool asf when it was flashing, wish we had that as a real avatar 😛
yea
@fierce light is the current yama the last one we'd get this season?
20 is likely the last stage
I see.
me go sleep now so sleepy
ok
will lock in tomorrow
bruh

U get the top 3 badge if u get top 3 in the final Paragon or any of the one Paragon ?
final Paragon
mean P20
for fun
but u can get avt top 10 when u get in any stage
need to clear it for achievement or to farm?
achievements i need to do the legend one to farm once and do achievement second time and third time
i can do it with you once or twice
sweet
Doesn't apply to just yang curios since people are still using past yin curios for different builds
New person who wants to play thunder lotus surge on Justina or such but has no access to Withering Glory, makes total sense doesn't it
Thats literally me seeing the backfire builds
I'm look cool! I'll try that
wow this game is hard, It must be me
then someone with backfire comes and they're like 100% hp

How
Plus it's just denying people the experience to try the old mechanics for themselves since not everyone would play showdown to compete either
It's like imagine if IDK, Genshin Impact or something blocked you from using any 1.0 or 2.0 artifacts because you joined last week but as a result couldn't farm any of those pieces
Let alone the fact I've read people here saying they know others who gave up on characters because they didn't have access to a certain curio. Which is a bit much imo but it shows it's a net negative
If it's not addressed at some point then we'll have a future season where new people can only use one good yin curio but all the other options they could have had are completely blocked from them just because
Yeah one Orb does more damage during its lifetime than 2 Void Sunders.
Just less AoE.
Nectar Goblet with Backfire should give an equivalent, if not better dmg bonus for that build tbh.
BUT MY DMC COSPLAY

There's also the issue of verve banner
Yeah her Curio didn't age very well. None of the first generation of Curios really
There's no equivalent to it rn
Yeah Verve Banner is a big miss
I'm inclined to believe that they're never going to do a rerun event despite saying they would
Let alone a rerun event still wouldn't solve matters since people down the road would miss that too
I can see one coming this upcoming season, since it'll be a year since curios were first introduced
But knowing 24e, they just don't care/forgot 
24E logic: make showdown avoid P2W for the most part, at worst it's a battle pass and revives
Also 24E: "what are old curios"
Well not that old curios are automatically the best but still
Here's to hoping something is said about it soon either way
They tried to make it P2W with the refresh crystals, back when that was the ranked mode
I guess it didn't work out too well for them, cause they nearly scrapped it.
How far back was that? I hadn't heard of that being a thing
What Nirriti's Ruins · Legend is now, used to be the ranked mode, except you had to get lucky to even get your Souljades, alongside the Anima Rings that synergized with them. So 100s of resets were required just to get one decent run.
This was mainly because of the Omens that were in effect that reduced all types of damage by one by like 90%, so you were forced to build/spec into a single damage type (uncharged, charged, elemental, burn, etc) and would do little to no damage until you got anything that dealt that type of damage.
Ok that explains nearly everything about why Nirriti's is the way it is
That sounds miserable
This was before Collection Bonuses were a thing as well, so many builds literally didn't work till you got certain Souljades (Thunderpull + Thunder Counter, Successive Ice Blast, Defuse · Flaming Blade + Defuse · Raging Flame, etc).
I mean it's true to its roguelite nature in that sense but then it shouldn't have had a rank tied to it in the first place being that inconsistent
They weren't ranking for skill, they were trying to determined who is God's chosen

Hi everyone,
Please report the hacker using the video and text below:
https://www.tiktok.com/@graywolf1st/video/7609090401336577281
Hacker Report – extremecheats0
The hacker ranked #1 using extremely weak builds, characters below level 20, and some with no build at all. This is highly alarming and could corrupt the legitimate rankings of professional players, especially if this hack is used on the final day of the season (even from a different account), robbing competitive players of a fair standing.
We did bro, no one cares, moders are on holiday
Game companies respond much faster when an issue goes public. If the hacker uses the cheat on the final day of the season, legitimate pro players lose their standings permanently. Public exposure before that happens is the best way to prevent it.
times he got on solo are not impossible to efford with max build i guess, there a chance he just find a way to change the equipment showed off on leaderbord?
Feria level 3
His name is literlaly Extremecheat0?
btw if I join TI and leave does the amount of fatigue scale with how long we've been in it?
Asking for dodging purposes 🐒
He's only played 155 matches of Showdown. I doubt that
Probably 155 matches that aren't even finished, just to "appear" like a legitimate account when anyone who plays showdown knows it's impossible to get a build that fast on a fresh account
lowkey overthinking if I should go for scorching or keep the melee weapon dmg up for temmy 
update: I went for scorching 
I wish there was a feature to disable other players' effects because it's legit really difficult to see in trios abyss
Actually, disabling effects would benefit Tempered Inferno too because if everyone's running effects then that really drags performance down unless you have cream of the crop PC hardware
This is what trios abyss feels like when Wuchen is in the team
I have to counter a whole second earlier on trios TI it’s crazy
Who was the last charactet added.
Zai in the middle of the current season
Wait so how many character do they add in 1 season? Im excited coz the new season is near
I think it's just 2 a season
There's 9 whole characters they've yet to add
As much as I want Lyam Liu in showdown it'll probably not be any time soon
Which character do you think it is?
If what everyone else says is to go by, Xunhuan Li (because collab character, they get priority treatment), and Shayol Wei later on
Hopefully Cyra
I managed to lower my time in solos paragon 19 to 1:08 as Matari but I'm really feeling the lack of two missing windfalls in my jades
That would be fun, and she'd be way easier to balance too unlike PVP, could theoretically make a third healer too
Though they'd probably have to find a way to make it so flying characters can't just fly up to avoid damage entirely
I see cyra added soon since she's popular
Don't hold your breath on Takeda, he doesn't exist
Even when they accidentally showed Overwatch in the shop on global Takeda Genji was nowhere to be seen 💔
They're still trying to rework Takeda lmao
💀 wow that's a lot
i mean her sap can kind of work like an AOE
and the next soak will just insta kill them all
@balmy coral now i see new face for zip
I would be interested to see what they do for Shayol if they add her. Her and Cyra could be fun
Balda
About ~2.6% more Attack over the Poison Surge build. Hard to say if it's stronger though when you include the loss of Toxin Blasts.
Pestilent Pool causes Toxin Blasts in the Poison Surge build, but yeah it would be missing that initial 15% till after the first Poison Surge
It's kinda unfortunate that Temulch's strong awakening heals him. He could've run Desperation with Nectar Goblet
The beat up faces always gets me
Is showdown the only mode out now? What happened to the solo and trio matches? I haven't played in like a year and just reinstalled the game.
Solo and trio infested with hackers
there is million modes out now
anyone help this game is gonna end soon cause of cheats wth he achieved rank number 1 on temulch EU without any jades his name is extremecheats lol
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don't worry naraka's 24 hours monitoring anti cheat team is working hard and his months long cheating will be put to stop soon
any second now
Almost certainly wishful thinking but I'm hoping they leave Matari's curio alone for next season and don't nerf it. I would certainly hope they nerf Radiance flow to hell and back though
i don't think they have ever nerfed curios directly
Wasn't Wordless Sutra nerfed?
Like it used to do 100% extra on the extreme variant but now it's 80% instead
I could be misremembering entirely
Dang, almost 80m
Nah, it was always 80%.
I must've gaslit myself then thinking it was 100% because all the other curios default to 50%/100%
Btw I was wondering, I was looking at the detailed description for Matari's skill and it says her aegis skill is enhanced after using it, but it doesn't state in what way it's enhanced, unless I'm missing something? I'm trying to figure out how much of a difference it makes since I've seen people going full Windfall no moderation with Matari @fierce light
I don't remember the exact name of the skill itself, tusk something
I tested it some time ago, it just reapplies the Flash buff without having to use your Skill.
What's the flash buff again?
Increases Base DMG of Martial Skills by ~+355%, +10% Elemental Accumulation & +5% Elemental DMG for 6s.
Thanks, the detailed description omits the base damage part for whatever reason
I'm stuck with 100% moderation as is anyways but it should then for sure be better to have 4 Mods, 10 windfalls on Matari than a full 14 windfalls, 0 mods then
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is this good on Ice Surge Justina? https://i.imgur.com/c3HUl1N.png
Yeah although DMG to Bosses >> Weapon DMG Bonus for her, especially with that Curio.
what would be the stat priorities?
the perfect curio would be Skill Damage, Attack, Boss Damage and Elemental Accumualtion?
also the red stat has two variants, but I'm not sure whats the difference
The red stat on the curio is the "awakening" which is a 50/50 on which one you get. The one in the screenshot just means you summon two orbs instead of the default one orb
Attack > DMG to Bosses > Skill DMG Bonus > Elemental Accumulation Rate/Weapon DMG Bonus.
Shouldn't really need Elemental Accumulation Rate on Justina Ice Surge though outside of Tempered Inferno.
You'd want the double Orb Summon Awakening since you won't be able to upkeep 3+ Orbs that easily with Ice Surge.
well, I mostly care about TI, so accumulation rate was the main stat I was aiming for
In that case Elemental Accumulation Rate > Attack > DMG to Bosses > Skill DMG Bonus.
Dont tell me thats his main and they didnt ban him ?
@balmy coral wanna TI?
sea?
Huh 
Jwu
Lwu
Mwu
@balmy coral go?
Hol on

ur EU unless u wanna go SEA we can't help u
I’m NA but I’m playing in EU
@balmy coral u dead too much
boss always killing me
but boss alway focus me
no me
Done, but my pin is something high, we can try 
Luan can help u
same
me hungry
Rich yess
no work?
I got work Sunday
bruh
Go sleep
googled his name...it's a whole site 💀
Oh no, they selling cheats?
I would say this should be reported to 24E asap but he's been going this long without being banned, and blatantly
he's doing a favor by exposing the site... there r way more ppl there using these..need to report the site
and a million sites
yes, wanna buy?
get badge top 1 with 01s

Definitely not
I'm buying watch me top 1 now
Make some 2 more alt id and get the top 3 on all server
leave a spot for me too
yeah it's been reported they just aren't banning him 
or any other cheater in leaderboards
some who lurk in here #👾┃showdown
carry me pls. thanks 
Is the elemental distribution ok like that on a cannon build? or is another element better on cannon mastery jade?
sorry for not censoring w*rk btw. It's racist against us pheasants.

Damn dual blade skin lucky bith

hii guys anyone help me to get my build??
Am I tho?
I had to open 764 boxes to get it
I mean tbf I got Cyra at 100, which was nice but I was only opening for the dualies really
💀 holy ,sorry gang wasn't familiar with your game!
huge respect!!! 🛐
Yeah it doesn't matter much. Although Poison-Wielding on the mastery jade makes Cannon hit the hardest.
@balmy coral i wake up, go TI?
noice
I'm at work now
this morning
7 am
pm now
working hard everyday for gacha pulls 
nice that time im sleep
Ye my waifu needs sustenance
@balmy coral hiii
whos is your waifu
@amber terrace jinu is playing 5 gachas games at once ithink
😭 that means 5 five battles
yes
trash banner, trash bubble chat, trash new moonbane
ya tbh
best bubble chat icon i think is the nunchunck one
blue dragon way too cool
i still 0 time
you have to spend the gold too inorder to initaite the dance
not that many
I'm just waiting for wwm story update so I can get back to it so for now just gacha
i know
but no money
hii
most stop at 0
why?
only these 3 treasures worth swiping
yaaa:c
thats the cyra one?
yup
we stop there 
@cerulean temple 感谢大佬养服🥹
yea
not just whales 
sea?
EU
sad
😔

anyone has the kylin build for TI ?
you can run sub zero seal instead of renewed vigor
element surge must be imbued with thunder, the rest can be ice/poison
banner is a must have though, if you don't have banner then run soul drawing in renewed vigor's slot
this doesnt work no ?
this is also fine, though draco stride effect is minimal
yueshan is sht in TI
top 3 are kylin temulch wuchen
i heard bomber feria is kinda crazy too
also good old yoto
I saw a Feria play TI like it was Overwatch and we didn't get to do anything much, she nuked everything while spamming "Nerf This" on voice
lol
how much better is renewed vigor vs thunder chain
dont even remember what renewed vigor does
dont use sutra anymore could ditch thunder chain ig
oh mai gaaaa
if u run thunder chain you gonna have to imbue all of your soul jades with thunder, also taking divine thunder dmg instead of dmg to boss
i'm pretty sure that tscorch kylin beats thunder chain kylin, dunno by hm though
increase ur attack when u gets healed
basically just an attack increase jade, same with szs
yeah ive got all imbued thunder since last season's TI. i think i got mix of boss to dmg and divine thunder dmg
well able to do solo sub-4min so ig for TI purposes not worth starting to recast renewed vigor
last season we don't have the node that causes soak status when elemental blast happens
kylin in TI is so braindead you can clear with a set of jades with literally 0 right attributes, just need the correct set of jades
with 100+ ping you are ruining the excuse why i suck in this game 
i can still blame my fps
yeah bro unfortunately i cant do anything about my ping cuz i live in Dubai
Hard to say exactly, but a single Light Orb does 28% more damage than a max Divine Thunder DMG Thunder Chain (x7 Divine Thunder DMG, x14 Windfalls).
That plus Renewed Vigor buffs everything
Huh, maybe the hit detection for ranged weapons is linked to FPS instead of Ping..? That's pretty annoying.
im having 400 to 500 fps at yama but still its lagging sometimes cuz server latency with +100ms
Yeah Bow's Counterstrikes miss at point blank range for me sometimes, Musket is even worse
EU GOD
Pistol meta when
Pistol meta where it wouldn't require 500% deadeye build rate to get one deadeye going
@fierce light how much is nectar bonus dmg? any competitive?
+0.25% DMG Bonus per 1% of Max Health loss.
It's competitive with Backfire.
It becomes better than Robe whenever you're at <40% of your Max Health.
With Backfire and no healing, you'll be at 18.75% DMG Bonus.
It feels baller when you get it up but my god the build rate that could of been fixed if they made each bullet build deadeye
Even in Nirriti it feels abysmal despite the damage
I guess they really didn't want a pistol meta again lol
Is it easy to get lotus ding from showdown?
i’ve only gotten it once despite maxing my fatigue every week since it launched 
Didn’t get one in showdown so far 🥲
can anyone help me with immovable nightscream?
10 kites?
i only have 7
sad
i can
ok whats your username so i can add you
im on na
okay
i cant find you
u can post ur ign

xorevity
Haha nice. I got 1:37 using a similar build on my Lv. 20 Tarka.
When any of you hit max fatigue, do you play Showdown still, or is it just more worth it to stop?
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I was thinking about doing Nittiri’s normal mode because I haven’t built up enough to do Nightscream allegedly
But I’m maxed
Usually stop or run Yama's Abyss. Just to not burn out
Only reason I can imagine wanting to keep playing is if you're playing with friends or helping new people, which is a given. Or if you're practicing to hyper optimize every little thing
Or just get daily missions done and over with
Yeah but this is talking specifically about after your fatigue maxed, which was in reply to this
Ranked is what I usually end up doing lol was just wondering if some modes like Nitirri’s are worth the trade off of no rewards, since there’s other objectives to complete
Like TI is only rewards
But Nitirri’s can be long af too
nothing is worth with no rewards
Ranking to get a better time 😁
even when you spamming yama for that 1s improvement that's still some potential rewards
What's the tree nodes for wuchen poison
Yeah Yama's has value in simply trying to go as fast as possible or testing things out on a character. But otherwise no real merit to keep playing, unless it's free training or I guess if you're specifically practicing to play Matari
Some people just like the grind
There wouldn't be games like Disgaea 1 where you grind for over 700 hours otherwise if you want to do everything
no no no the grind implies that you're playing for something other than just enjoying the gameplay itself
I'm sure there are people that do just like to play for the sake of it

I'm ngl, I've just barely been managing to max my fatigue the past 3 resets

I never really do it mostly it's 600 cross
Playing with a new build is fun, but it just takes too long
they need to give out the legend jades more easily
yeah not fun enough for the grind to be worth it
I'm using thunder cannon build on tarka, what attributes am I looking for?
With Scorching, or without?
without
Then probably Attack, Divine Thunder DMG, & DMG to Bosses. The rest being Windfall.
It doesn't require any deadeye build rate?
No, it gets quite a lot from Counterstrikes and hitting multiple enemies
Wouldn't really recommend it for solo-bossing though
I wanted to build Tessa counter build anyone got any build for me is it worth doing it?
New to showdown
Somebody play showdown mode 
She can use Thunder Scorch Surge, but that build doesn't really activate till you can get [Scorching] Attributes, which are rare.
Souljades
- Thunderpull, Thunder Counter, Element Surge, Thunder Charge, Draco Stride, & Incineration
Potential - Blazing Flame, Aquatic Prison, & Element Afterglow
- Counter Prowess 36/36, Dodge Prowess 12/36
damnnn tysm tho not really understanding much xD
i will figure it out maybe
@fierce light Alright i kinda understand the Souljades now :3 Do i need the Scorching Attributes on every souljades or nah?
The Potential i don't know what's that you said i found Blazing flame in the prep thingy do i need to choose one of those three or all of them?
and the Counter Prowess 36/36, Dodge Prowess 12/36 i don't know also hehe



I might've figure it out nvm check dm

Scorching caps out at +12, so you only need 4
Blazing Flame, gives a DMG Bonus to burns based on your health, it's the capstone node on blue path
Just like the picture i send you exactly?
on 4 pieces?
What server
Anyone able to help me with this quest please? EU
if u havent done weekly easy battle yet it is fairly easy w 22 rerolls
gotta wait next weekend
easy battle is only weekends
EU
If somebody playing, add me pls

My ping over there is too high 
hmm u are new player to showdown?
No
whats partida rapida
Conquista

Oo ok
i mean id like to help..but im pretty pathetic in anything other than solo even in my own server
well he don't need help he isn't new
if he was new and crying about ping I would have whopped his ass
well yeah same 
mere presence can be helpful 
Partida rapida means quick match, but she wants help in showdown i think
oh okay..it sounded funny thats why i asked
do u have to reach a certain level before u unlock curios?
hmm...dont think so....why did u ask that
old ones?
hmm...not sure then
maybe click on it and see if anything shows
i think we got it
they turned fatigue off
and didnt get crafting ressources
kekw
👁️👄👁️
still thanks for trying to help
im not sure if I understand it right but you can't get resources if you turned off fatigue consumption 
Maybe the game also disables curios if they're below level 15 for the showdown season? Since the minimum to enter is level 15
What is the Rage/DMG stat exactly?
The harder you hit the more rage you get
ye was thinking that aswell bc u can enter as premades trio w lv 10 and they were 12 i think
but its bc they turned fatigue accumulation off xd
How long do we have for TI?
Til new season begins
@chilly kestrel send me wuchen tree
just look at yamas leaderboard 
uh but this week im using diff build. pretty sure the top 1 guy is using the usual tree
solos 
Oo
idc abt trios 
on final Paragon help me with it
i can help clear only 
but last time u gave top 1
cause its not last paragon yet. so people dc abt rank 
well let's just try
If a hacker enters then it's different story
when are u gonna buy hacks 
the bro didn't send any link
Someone disconnect at starting

Then I got disconnected at ending 8/8
poor kylin somehow cleared it
Hey guys would like to ask.. are they a specific hero that is like meta for Showdown? or just play whatever you feels like it
Because i had skin on Zai hahaha so i wanna play Zai
But at the same time i saw Feria mechanic is like different from normal game mode where you blast your way to victory
there are
heavily even
which are?
just check yama abyss solo leaderboard and see diff heroes's fastest timing
oo
though currently we got curios so the meta gonna shift again after curios got disabled
when new season begins
which is in 2 weeks
why specific yama? sorry i havent touch this Showdown mode yet
basically it's a ''test ur limit'' stage
Ohhhh
seems like they all using Viper Ning lol
jesus valda is 0.40
yeah
not sure what that is but ok
but when new season begins valda gonna b trash again lmfao
wow matari also 0.4
was she always been that trash?
ok let's say i always duo with a friend but i dont htink that duo exist in modes yet
mainly they focus in trio and solo...
Which hero *would be suitable for it?
you can disable party fill and play duo in trio
you recommend i gues haha seems like you're wikipedia here
tbh it's the builds that matters
or chatgpt xd
nah i'm not even play showdown seriously
@fierce light is the all knowing here
check out his site
it's on pinned
actually checkout all the posts on pinned
yeah you select an element and some of the potential nodes will changes according to the element you selected
are they gonna nerf her musket build 
actually i forgot about that build
💀
can't stand musket dumb hitbox
but yeah
she's prolly still gud or at least decent with tscorch musket
anyone can play showdown with me? or evolution?
glhf
oh yeah there's that bs
hope they wont nerf it so i can just use it for the whole 1st half this season too
i mean next season

wait how you unlock more characters in showdown? i got only few
New hero coming in 2weeks?
uhh maybe
i mean new one is def coming but nobody knows who
Whoever
I'm just wondering if that's happening at all
I really dislike the whipsword attacks animations durations so I wasn't satisfied by Zai at all
now i feel like it wont happen at all lol
lol only played akos on release
fistblade mechanics is interesting at first but people quickly found out that it sucks in real scenarios
the issue with akos and zai is they can't make the most out of any builds
i cant imagine what they were thinking with zai
at least let her trigger ice blast with one F or something like cmon
also this F loves to go somewhere completely not even close to where i am aiming
been using this on her...kind of fun not that strong tho...only usable on topaz
the defuse ain't even working
She can't abuse the radiant ward
the curio doesnt trigger?
skyfire barely does anything
No the defuse is hard to trigger
skyfire is basically "increase temperature of ur graphics card"
and most of time enemy don't even attack
Since they are flying in air with wuchen fan
Or kylin throwing em away
i mean ye in inferno
most dmg just comes with radiance flow 😭
its awful
all of them had to stop attacking me when the only time i wanted to test lotus mark build...standing there like idiots lol
i've always think defuse reliant builds are dumb
it kind of is except on bosses
the defuse builds kinda need to have alterantive condition
like hit with aegis break martial skill or something
that would be too broken on lotus mark
spam the skill the whole time
actually would be a good idea when the boss is down
This
it isn't about how strong or weak those builds are, it's about the way it works
defuse is a defensive mechanic, you want to do damages you attack, then when the boss throw an attack you defuse/parry/dodge it and get back to attacking to maximizing ur output, that's the thrill of showdown, the ability to perfect defuse/parry/dodge then immediately back to attacking, no gap in rotation is what seperate a good player from a bad one
only kylin can do defuse better than the ones who rely on defuse
while on defuse reliant builds you're just.. in defense mode all the times
which is fkin dumb
She still has one of the strongest builds with Scorching Musket.
I wonder if Valda's curio will still be cream of the crop next TI cycle or if they'll find a way to powercreep it
🎉 | Lichmassacre KOF leveled up!
Yeah, as they are now, they're heavily boss focused, assuming you don't have someone constantly hit stunning them as well. Granted Thunder Mark has been showing promise with and without Curios.
What's an example of a defuse build? Is it just anything that specs in that part of the tree, or is is more a build that can't start its dmg on its own?
B/c I play Justina, and have most of my stuff spec'd into defuse branch, but I can still activate the orbs with ice build up and use abilities without waiting to be attacked
build where most of ur damage comes from activation of defuses
like burn builds etc
infinite f thunder build
u have to trigger demonbane mark to be able to spam ur f ability
Defuse · Prowess doesn't necessarily need a Defuse build to work. Especially at Tier 2, it makes your Aegis-breaks hit pretty hard.
Tiger Punch dealing 120k damage 



where people queue for the showdown or is everyone just soloing
They're likely waiting for fatigue reset right now.
But mostly people queue for Tempered Inferno.
isnt fatigue reset daily or?
It resets every week today at <t:1772049600:t> .
ah ok
They could honestly rebalance Fatigue.
- Give +350 Fatigue per Day, weekends give +525.
- First 600 Fatigue per Week has 50% increased drops.
- Fatigue caps at 3000.
- Catch Up Points can be redeemed at every 600 Fatigue spent.
- Nirriti's Ruins • Nightscream consumes 90 Fatigue.
- Nirriti's Ruins • Legend consumes 135 Fatigue.
We can actually wear clothes and not have the eyepatch 
yea
tier 2 skin not have too
first look in my mind is Tang Monk has b**bs

would they change the map of niriti and enigma domain at the start of season as well 
hate deserts in general
yup
we have new babycry

Anyone around to help me with enigma peak? 
i can help you tomorrow when easy battle is live
for 3 games

What time is good?
Cuute
sometime after reset so in like 20hrs or something




This Telemuch got mvp despite only doing 1/5 of our damage LOL
heal padding is real










When this ss end guys
in 2 weeks or smth i think
14 days
So we’ll have new champ next weak?.?
no
yeah maybe in test server

I was kind of hoping for this paragon 20 to be more challenging 🤷🏻♂️ idk
nothing is challengig w curios tbh
🎉 | da leveled up!
how is that not challenging? our eu guy who has been cheating for 2 months doing best timing than cn server
w devs
he just built different
He’s a pro come on 😂
I was expecting to be more harder. But yea that’s right what you saying
i mean usually last stage dont even have any omens but this one have some
last paragon is always new boss
so agnivat this time
omen is the healing reduction one
they added hellhole and some other one this time for some reason
he is also pretty good in pvp 
kekw
I lost hope on this game every time I come here @amber terrace
Probably should make a mega feedback thread of all the cheaters
I did, lot of my friends did with all the proof
No one is giving a f
there's really no point banning the cheaters without fixing the root of the issue
How long is this CN holiday?
for a company that claimed they banned 200,000 cheaters in a year they sure seem slow to ban cheaters, lol
think it ended yesterday
it should be over now yeah
if 80k - 90k ppl in this record is real, that explains why the no of players dropped so soon 
Ah okay cause hearing a lot of 💩 going down in CN games lol
Yup

It's increased perception effect cause of proportions since she's big and tall
You do got a point tho
I found out she has another one when she's in fire form
I got it but some monster jumped in front of the screen
I'm just dash spamming and then out of no where I get grabbed
If I remember right, the Matron just steps on you lol
Ohhhh okay two different animations is crazy

Her ice form is annoying tho in TI




"Drag the boss to the pool"
but it could be worse, they could of added the wolf boss and we watch everyone get wiped out
I hated that so much last season
Agnivat and mom are not as annoying as the wolf woman and deer witch
I mean they are quiet annoying too
But not as much as wolf and deer
Wolf woman wiping everyone out with large area/full map attacks

oh and then her fake outs
Yeah that forms annoying, and the second phase of Matron can be a pain because she always bounces back too
Doesn’t help that some teammates like to run to the boss 
@balmy coral TI?
I had a loss that was the Matron double backflipping into the furnance
and I didn't know about it
I don't trust anyone playing Tianhai, I'm dodging if I see one lmao
oh thats a given
NOT THE CATS
Ahahahhahahahhah
Probably one of the best gifs I've seen in mah life
Punishment just for licking
I wonder what u do when they scratch u

Tempered Inferno is no longer time-limited?
It closes when the season ends.
It was also like that before.
what do you mean
I thought last time, it was only available for a very short period
it's always available for last 1/3 of season
last season was shorter so it was only month or something
They released it late last season, so we had a shorter window to play it
Was also one of the last short seasons we'll have.
I have no internet. Will get transferred today since I moved out
i would put money on Li, whetever his name is lol.
same here 
Baddie
Lannie 😂
Ngl I wouldn’t mind Hadi he would need a showdown rework and he’d be another thunder scorch user
I would love it to be lannie, little hat trick on bosses 
but takeda 
As much as it'd be cool he's added to Showdown, current political tensions pretty much ensure that'll never happen but I won't say more than that due to server rules




@merry narwhal u still need help with peak?
Ya, I'll be on later est
okie
@balmy coral TI?

No wifi
We got him banned, I hope this behavior doesn't happen again.
i mean all he has to do is make a new steam account, game is free too
not like he needs to farm curios or jades to get rank 1 again
took you how long though?
even if he does it again, he won't be the first cheater to get top 3 
wish their anticheat would do something instead of we having to report most blatant cheaters ever
but atleast they finally banned him
some progress
I wish if they keep an eye on it and review the top 3 accounts in each hero before new season
that would be nice
but they didn't do that for last PVP season so i don't think they will do that for even less popular showdown mode
At least we can still report before the server close
I believe they will do something
no
Oh he's a cheater fr?? I met that guy a few times in my games
Is that to my comment? I mean I get it his nickname is extremecheats
But if I write my nickname as MichaelJackson or EP.stein it doesn't necessarily mean I'm one right
idk bro
ru
he was getting impossible fast times with no jades and curios i wonder if he was really cheating
dk if he could change dmg values
if so...there r other stuffs that comes with that.. for an example infinite stamina or infinite skills
i saw a feria on a snd match with infinite aegis break
if you google his name you can find what he uses
his whole name is just advertisement to sell his cheats
yeah extremecheats is just a site name
prob i said it here sometime ago
yeah lol
or to expose
could be yeah
devs need to fix anticheat so it will insta ban sm1 if they even try to tickle it
i wonder what their kernel-level anticheat even does
other than act as potential security, privacy and stability risk for every player lol
spyware 
yeah all info straight to chinese gov
Yeah none of us is ded since years and it's me indeed
I'm not sure if I met him in PvE, I think rather PvP but I don't remember how he was doing. It wasn't very often
Thank goodness
Ohhhh that makes sense
There are several players with nicknames fixnaraka too
protesters
anyways it aint that deep im jk obv 
lol 



The emoji spam returns
Fending for your life for check in bot points gets tough out there in the real world

I think this is one, I can't see how they can do it without Curios
oh wait this is Trios nevermind
damn, I keep thinking the first one is solos nevermind
Yeah that's pretty sus, that's like the Kylin build outside of Curios
Not even regular Thunder Scorch Surge
It's completely sus but it's also the trios leaderboard so they probably got carried very hard... But still sus
LF ruin nightmare clear im under the level req for it
Oh Trios, nvm then



then why they keep leaderboard for previous ones too








