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limpid pecan
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so what is the conclusion in the end

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its better to do bunny hopping?

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by 4%

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?

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can u post simulation parameters

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?

balmy coral
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It's the average

fierce light
# limpid pecan so what is the conclusion in the end

I'm working on the full table, but basically Deconstruct First uses ~3.7% less Recasts on Average when working with Double Rares.

Parameters:

  • Average Non-Rare Attribute Value before Recasting = 60%.
    -# This is the average of the Non-Rare Attributes that aren't intended to be converted to Rare Attributes initially. Such as having 1 at 100% and 1 at 60%.
  • Average Recasts per Rare Attribute = 89.
  • Chance to Get Good Rare Attribute = 1/3.
    -# I generate a random number between 0-1 and if it's below 1/3, it counts as a success.
  • Average Recasts to Max a Non-Rare Attribute = 101.
    -# In my code, I use a dynamic function based on the CN graph from earlier instead of using the 101 average.
balmy coral
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~3.7% could save u like 400 mats/crystal wise

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If I'm correct

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Vice versa

amber terrace
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@balmy coral TI?

balmy coral
fair jungle
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@fierce light does ice do more dmg than poison?

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i mean ele blast

fierce light
# fair jungle i mean ele blast

All Elemental Blasts have a Base DMG Multiplier of 4.06 (at +6 Wielding).

  • Successive Ice Blast increases Ice Blasts to 6.85 (at +6 Wielding).
fickle linden
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i forgot what was the "main reward" from this last SND event?

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before this one it was the terrible souljade skin

balmy coral
fair jungle
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just checked in training and its true
was a lil confused bc i had 1 ice and 5 poison and the dmg went from ice 3,4k and poison 10k to 12k poison

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looked scuffed

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but i think some atk boost proc or smth happened after posion which made ice deal higher dmg

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still thank you!

river stratus
fickle linden
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and he is barely the only one. he is just the most blatant one..

balmy coral
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I surely checked the recent snd

amber terrace
fair jungle
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i think that doesnt boost first poison blast either

balmy coral
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Pls better peak next season

viscid wraith
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pls

fickle linden
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better nirriti, better peak

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ti is nice

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better than ti 1 and ti 2

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3 extra boss for topaz is cool

river stratus
fickle linden
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need better lfg, atleast own lfg system for ppl who use gold key vs purple key

balmy coral
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@amber terrace opening

balmy coral
fickle linden
balmy coral
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Ye ur fuced

fickle linden
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boring ahh mode and trash rewards 💩

fierce light
# limpid pecan is 90%

What about the other stat? My results at 80% should give similar results.

80% could be

  • 100% + 60%
  • 80% + 80%
  • 90% + 70%
    etc.
fierce light
soft pelican
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i wish we get something better than press parry for golden circle to fist for you

balmy coral
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@amber terrace TI?

fierce light
fierce light
limpid pecan
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average doesnt really do the justice though

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if u recast to max stats

amber terrace
limpid pecan
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its still pretty good value

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taking 70 to 90+

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but 90 to 100 is not that great

balmy coral
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catch up is still one of the biggest issue on showdown

amber terrace
fierce light
# limpid pecan i mean idk 90 and 50 maybe

Results

10:53:10 AM Info - Test Type: No Deconstruct

Number of Same Rares = 14
Average Non-Rare Attribute Value = 70%
Simulations = 1000000
Average Recasts = 5347.589308
10:53:11 AM Info - Test Type: Deconstruct First
Number of Same Rares = 14
Average Non-Rare Attribute Value = 70%
Simulations = 1000000
Average Left Over Flux Shards = 0.771845
Average Recasts = 4360.670565
10:54:00 AM Info - Test Type: Always Deconstruct
Number of Same Rares = 14
Average Non-Rare Attribute Value = 70%
Simulations = 1000000
Average Left Over Flux Shards = 29.476531
Average Recasts = 4311.610664
10:54:00 AM Info The most optimal strat with these parameters is Always Deconstruct with an average recasts count of 4311.610664.

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Here's the newly updated table. Took quite a while cause I did 1 million simulations each instead to reduce the standard error.

Conclusion

When aiming for a Jade with 2 or more Rare Attributes:

  • If you have an extra Jade of the same type with an average of 67.5% or higher between its 2 highest Non-Rare Attributes, you should Always Deconstruct when you fail to get the right Rare Attribute, otherwise, you should only deconstruct on First Rare Only, converting failures to maxed Non-Rare Attributes.
    When aiming for a Jade with only 1 Rare Attribute:
  • If you have an extra Jade of the same type with an average of 67.5% or higher between its 2 highest Non-Rare Attributes, you should Always Deconstruct when you fail to get the right Rare Attribute, otherwise convert it to a maxed Non-Rare Attribute.
balmy coral
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bosses hate me

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How tf that zip did mor dmg than me

amber terrace
viscid wraith
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our humble radiance flow: Matari_Pepe_Laugh

balmy coral
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Cos my build incomplete and he has radiance yhe

amber terrace
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he even newbie

balmy coral
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Im mvp all that matters

amber terrace
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cuz u playing wuchen

balmy coral
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I think I was using the wrong potential

amber terrace
balmy coral
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Yep I was now the dmg went up to 8 mil

amber terrace
fickle linden
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btw @fierce light ur avatar, why was it flashing when i was over NA that one time?

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i forgot to ask then

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was it just visual bug on my end

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because i tried that same avatar and mine didn't flash bebu_sadge

amber terrace
fickle linden
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it was matari or some other girl

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it was new avatar at the time

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could be same series as jinu's avatar

balmy coral
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I need to gacha

fierce light
fickle linden
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think it was one of these, but they are just images

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i think it was just visual bug

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i had other bugs that night aswell like the ready thing

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it just looked cool asf when it was flashing, wish we had that as a real avatar 😛

balmy coral
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Oh shi 5 days left

balmy coral
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@fierce light is the current yama the last one we'd get this season?

fierce light
balmy coral
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I see.

balmy coral
amber terrace
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ok

balmy coral
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will lock in tomorrow

amber terrace
balmy coral
rotund forge
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U get the top 3 badge if u get top 3 in the final Paragon or any of the one Paragon ?

rotund forge
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Tarka_Pepe_sideeye_what then why they keep leaderboard for previous ones too

amber terrace
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but u can get avt top 10 when u get in any stage

north pumice
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yoooo

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anyone up for showdown trio niritti nightscream

fickle linden
north pumice
fickle linden
north pumice
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sweet

valid roost
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Doesn't apply to just yang curios since people are still using past yin curios for different builds

marble kindle
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Verve Banner

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Iron Nut

valid roost
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New person who wants to play thunder lotus surge on Justina or such but has no access to Withering Glory, makes total sense doesn't it

marble kindle
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Thats literally me seeing the backfire builds

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I'm look cool! I'll try that

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wow this game is hard, It must be me

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then someone with backfire comes and they're like 100% hp

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How

valid roost
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Plus it's just denying people the experience to try the old mechanics for themselves since not everyone would play showdown to compete either

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It's like imagine if IDK, Genshin Impact or something blocked you from using any 1.0 or 2.0 artifacts because you joined last week but as a result couldn't farm any of those pieces

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Let alone the fact I've read people here saying they know others who gave up on characters because they didn't have access to a certain curio. Which is a bit much imo but it shows it's a net negative

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If it's not addressed at some point then we'll have a future season where new people can only use one good yin curio but all the other options they could have had are completely blocked from them just because

fierce light
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Yeah one Orb does more damage during its lifetime than 2 Void Sunders.

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Just less AoE.

fierce light
valid roost
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There's also the issue of verve banner

fierce light
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Yeah her Curio didn't age very well. None of the first generation of Curios really

valid roost
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There's no equivalent to it rn

fierce light
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Yeah Verve Banner is a big miss

valid roost
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I'm inclined to believe that they're never going to do a rerun event despite saying they would

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Let alone a rerun event still wouldn't solve matters since people down the road would miss that too

turbid agate
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I can see one coming this upcoming season, since it'll be a year since curios were first introduced

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But knowing 24e, they just don't care/forgot Tian_lurk

valid roost
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24E logic: make showdown avoid P2W for the most part, at worst it's a battle pass and revives
Also 24E: "what are old curios"

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Well not that old curios are automatically the best but still

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Here's to hoping something is said about it soon either way

fierce light
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They tried to make it P2W with the refresh crystals, back when that was the ranked mode

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I guess it didn't work out too well for them, cause they nearly scrapped it.

valid roost
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How far back was that? I hadn't heard of that being a thing

fierce light
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What Nirriti's Ruins · Legend is now, used to be the ranked mode, except you had to get lucky to even get your Souljades, alongside the Anima Rings that synergized with them. So 100s of resets were required just to get one decent run.

This was mainly because of the Omens that were in effect that reduced all types of damage by one by like 90%, so you were forced to build/spec into a single damage type (uncharged, charged, elemental, burn, etc) and would do little to no damage until you got anything that dealt that type of damage.

valid roost
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Ok that explains nearly everything about why Nirriti's is the way it is

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That sounds miserable

fierce light
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This was before Collection Bonuses were a thing as well, so many builds literally didn't work till you got certain Souljades (Thunderpull + Thunder Counter, Successive Ice Blast, Defuse · Flaming Blade + Defuse · Raging Flame, etc).

valid roost
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I mean it's true to its roguelite nature in that sense but then it shouldn't have had a rank tied to it in the first place being that inconsistent

marble kindle
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They weren't ranking for skill, they were trying to determined who is God's chosen

peak finch
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Hacker Report – extremecheats0

The hacker ranked #1 using extremely weak builds, characters below level 20, and some with no build at all. This is highly alarming and could corrupt the legitimate rankings of professional players, especially if this hack is used on the final day of the season (even from a different account), robbing competitive players of a fair standing.
exotic solstice
peak finch
river stratus
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times he got on solo are not impossible to efford with max build i guess, there a chance he just find a way to change the equipment showed off on leaderbord?

marble kindle
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His name is literlaly Extremecheat0?

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btw if I join TI and leave does the amount of fatigue scale with how long we've been in it?

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Asking for dodging purposes 🐒

fierce light
valid roost
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Probably 155 matches that aren't even finished, just to "appear" like a legitimate account when anyone who plays showdown knows it's impossible to get a build that fast on a fresh account

viscid wraith
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lowkey overthinking if I should go for scorching or keep the melee weapon dmg up for temmy TianHai_thinking

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update: I went for scorching Matari_Pepe_Laugh

valid roost
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I wish there was a feature to disable other players' effects because it's legit really difficult to see in trios abyss

valid roost
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Actually, disabling effects would benefit Tempered Inferno too because if everyone's running effects then that really drags performance down unless you have cream of the crop PC hardware

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This is what trios abyss feels like when Wuchen is in the team

merry narwhal
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I have to counter a whole second earlier on trios TI it’s crazy

balmy urchin
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Who was the last charactet added.

valid roost
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Zai in the middle of the current season

balmy urchin
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Wait so how many character do they add in 1 season? Im excited coz the new season is near

valid roost
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I think it's just 2 a season

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There's 9 whole characters they've yet to add

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As much as I want Lyam Liu in showdown it'll probably not be any time soon

balmy urchin
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Which character do you think it is?

valid roost
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If what everyone else says is to go by, Xunhuan Li (because collab character, they get priority treatment), and Shayol Wei later on

balmy urchin
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Hopefully Cyra

valid roost
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I managed to lower my time in solos paragon 19 to 1:08 as Matari but I'm really feeling the lack of two missing windfalls in my jades

valid roost
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Though they'd probably have to find a way to make it so flying characters can't just fly up to avoid damage entirely

turbid agate
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I see cyra added soon since she's popular

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Don't hold your breath on Takeda, he doesn't exist

valid roost
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Even when they accidentally showed Overwatch in the shop on global Takeda Genji was nowhere to be seen 💔

marble kindle
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They're still trying to rework Takeda lmao

viscid wraith
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who

kind escarp
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i mean her sap can kind of work like an AOE

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and the next soak will just insta kill them all

amber terrace
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@balmy coral now i see new face for zip

merry narwhal
cursive fable
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@balmy coral hi cutieee

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nice new pfp

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lol

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u got ur valda build finished?

rotund forge
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Balda

fierce light
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About ~2.6% more Attack over the Poison Surge build. Hard to say if it's stronger though when you include the loss of Toxin Blasts.

fierce light
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Pestilent Pool causes Toxin Blasts in the Poison Surge build, but yeah it would be missing that initial 15% till after the first Poison Surge

fierce light
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It's kinda unfortunate that Temulch's strong awakening heals him. He could've run Desperation with Nectar Goblet

marble kindle
neat owl
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Is showdown the only mode out now? What happened to the solo and trio matches? I haven't played in like a year and just reinstalled the game.

rotund forge
fickle linden
fickle linden
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few months and there are more modes than players

oak belfry
drifting lanceBOT
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fickle linden
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don't worry naraka's 24 hours monitoring anti cheat team is working hard and his months long cheating will be put to stop soon

valid roost
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Almost certainly wishful thinking but I'm hoping they leave Matari's curio alone for next season and don't nerf it. I would certainly hope they nerf Radiance flow to hell and back though

fickle linden
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i don't think they have ever nerfed curios directly

valid roost
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Wasn't Wordless Sutra nerfed?

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Like it used to do 100% extra on the extreme variant but now it's 80% instead

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I could be misremembering entirely

fierce light
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Dang, almost 80m

valid roost
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I must've gaslit myself then thinking it was 100% because all the other curios default to 50%/100%

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Btw I was wondering, I was looking at the detailed description for Matari's skill and it says her aegis skill is enhanced after using it, but it doesn't state in what way it's enhanced, unless I'm missing something? I'm trying to figure out how much of a difference it makes since I've seen people going full Windfall no moderation with Matari @fierce light

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I don't remember the exact name of the skill itself, tusk something

fierce light
valid roost
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What's the flash buff again?

fierce light
valid roost
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Thanks, the detailed description omits the base damage part for whatever reason

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I'm stuck with 100% moderation as is anyways but it should then for sure be better to have 4 Mods, 10 windfalls on Matari than a full 14 windfalls, 0 mods then

drifting lanceBOT
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copper geyser
fierce light
copper geyser
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what would be the stat priorities?

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the perfect curio would be Skill Damage, Attack, Boss Damage and Elemental Accumualtion?

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also the red stat has two variants, but I'm not sure whats the difference

valid roost
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The red stat on the curio is the "awakening" which is a 50/50 on which one you get. The one in the screenshot just means you summon two orbs instead of the default one orb

fierce light
fierce light
copper geyser
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well, I mostly care about TI, so accumulation rate was the main stat I was aiming for

fierce light
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In that case Elemental Accumulation Rate > Attack > DMG to Bosses > Skill DMG Bonus.

cerulean temple
amber terrace
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@balmy coral wanna TI?

mossy orbit
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Somebody help me to pass that one sweetie_catcry

mossy orbit
balmy coral
amber terrace
viscid wraith
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Mwu

amber terrace
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@balmy coral go?

balmy coral
mossy orbit
balmy coral
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ur EU unless u wanna go SEA we can't help u

mossy orbit
amber terrace
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@balmy coral u dead too much

balmy coral
amber terrace
balmy coral
mossy orbit
balmy coral
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Luan can help u

mossy orbit
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Huh Kurumi_question who’s luan Kurumi_question

balmy coral
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@amber terrace

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I gotta go buy lunch it's almost noon

amber terrace
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same

balmy coral
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me hungry

amber terrace
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me sleeping

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@balmy coral should i sell this to roll new skin

balmy coral
balmy coral
amber terrace
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bruh

balmy coral
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Go sleep

kind escarp
fierce light
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Oh no, they selling cheats?

kind escarp
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looks like it

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"bypasses anticheat"

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"detection - never "😭

valid roost
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I would say this should be reported to 24E asap but he's been going this long without being banned, and blatantly

kind escarp
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he's doing a favor by exposing the site... there r way more ppl there using these..need to report the site

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and a million sites

amber terrace
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get badge top 1 with 01s

fierce light
balmy coral
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We finna take Xbox leaderboard

rotund forge
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Make some 2 more alt id and get the top 3 on all server

fathom edge
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Is there a cheat for PS5 too? Asking for a friend bebu_hihi

fickle linden
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or any other cheater in leaderboards

signal kite
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||Like me ? ||

rotund forge
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Peas ant

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🫛 🐜

chilly kestrel
foggy fulcrum
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Is the elemental distribution ok like that on a cannon build? or is another element better on cannon mastery jade?

balmy coral
signal kite
signal kite
keen solstice
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hii guys anyone help me to get my build??

foggy fulcrum
fierce light
amber terrace
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@balmy coral i wake up, go TI?

amber terrace
balmy coral
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this morning

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7 am

amber terrace
balmy coral
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I'm done at work 7 am

fickle linden
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working hard everyday for gacha pulls bebu_cleanse

amber terrace
balmy coral
amber terrace
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no one buy my katana

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no money to pull

cursive fable
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@balmy coral hiii

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whos is your waifu

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@amber terrace jinu is playing 5 gachas games at once ithink

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😭 that means 5 five battles

amber terrace
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lol

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rich

cursive fable
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do most people stopped at 18

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i think the 18th reward is the most attractive one?

amber terrace
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trash banner, trash bubble chat, trash new moonbane

cursive fable
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ya tbh

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best bubble chat icon i think is the nunchunck one

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blue dragon way too cool

amber terrace
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alway fail get nunchuckk

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my life is bad luck

cursive fable
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seems like i need 300 more dollars

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for 13 more dances 😭 too expensive

amber terrace
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i still 0 time

cursive fable
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you have to spend the gold too inorder to initaite the dance

balmy coral
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I'm just waiting for wwm story update so I can get back to it so for now just gacha

amber terrace
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but no money

cursive fable
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@balmy coral heyy cutiee

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@amber terrace sameeee:c

balmy coral
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hii

cursive fable
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none of them are good tbh

keen solstice
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HII GUYS

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ANYONE ONLINE IN GAME?

fickle linden
cursive fable
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imo

amber terrace
cursive fable
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only these 3 treasures worth swiping

amber terrace
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lol

cursive fable
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yaaa:c

amber terrace
cursive fable
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thats the cyra one?

amber terrace
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yup

cerulean temple
cursive fable
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@cerulean temple 感谢大佬养服🥹

cursive fable
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naraka still have whales playing

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i thought most of them migrated to wwm ?

amber terrace
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yea

fickle linden
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not just whales TianHai_thinking

cerulean temple
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wwm is nice , but feels different

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anyone for some TI runs ?

amber terrace
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sea?

cerulean temple
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EU

amber terrace
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sad

viscid wraith
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😔

signal kite
cerulean temple
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anyone has the kylin build for TI ?

hidden creek
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you can run sub zero seal instead of renewed vigor
element surge must be imbued with thunder, the rest can be ice/poison

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banner is a must have though, if you don't have banner then run soul drawing in renewed vigor's slot

cerulean temple
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this doesnt work no ?

hidden creek
cerulean temple
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never used him so far

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but i wonder if it will do better than yueshan

hidden creek
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top 3 are kylin temulch wuchen

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i heard bomber feria is kinda crazy too
also good old yoto

marble kindle
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I saw a Feria play TI like it was Overwatch and we didn't get to do anything much, she nuked everything while spamming "Nerf This" on voice

hidden creek
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lol

fickle linden
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how much better is renewed vigor vs thunder chain

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dont even remember what renewed vigor does

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dont use sutra anymore could ditch thunder chain ig

amber terrace
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oh mai gaaaa

hidden creek
hidden creek
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basically just an attack increase jade, same with szs

fickle linden
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well able to do solo sub-4min so ig for TI purposes not worth starting to recast renewed vigor

hidden creek
hidden creek
fickle linden
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yeah i just wanna be able to do it fast

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cuz showdown sucks

polar light
fickle linden
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with 100+ ping you are ruining the excuse why i suck in this game bebu_tiredAF

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i can still blame my fps

polar light
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yeah bro unfortunately i cant do anything about my ping cuz i live in Dubai124

fierce light
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That plus Renewed Vigor buffs everything

fierce light
# polar light

Huh, maybe the hit detection for ranged weapons is linked to FPS instead of Ping..? That's pretty annoying.

polar light
fierce light
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Yeah Bow's Counterstrikes miss at point blank range for me sometimes, Musket is even worse

exotic solstice
cerulean temple
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i will keep this just in case

marble kindle
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Pistol meta when

cerulean temple
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next season

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i have a feeling

valid roost
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Pistol meta where it wouldn't require 500% deadeye build rate to get one deadeye going

thorn narwhal
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@fierce light how much is nectar bonus dmg? any competitive?

fierce light
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It's competitive with Backfire.

thorn narwhal
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better than rope or not

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that should be 22.5%~ dmg vs 15% from rope right?

fierce light
fierce light
marble kindle
valid roost
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Even in Nirriti it feels abysmal despite the damage

fierce light
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I guess they really didn't want a pistol meta again lol

hollow herald
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Is it easy to get lotus ding from showdown?

chilly kestrel
fathom edge
odd ridge
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can anyone help me with immovable nightscream?

amber terrace
odd ridge
amber terrace
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sad

fickle linden
odd ridge
fickle linden
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server?

odd ridge
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im on na

fickle linden
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okay

odd ridge
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i cant find you

fickle linden
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u can post ur ign

amber terrace
odd ridge
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xorevity

peak finch
fierce light
merry narwhal
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When any of you hit max fatigue, do you play Showdown still, or is it just more worth it to stop?

drifting lanceBOT
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merry narwhal
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I was thinking about doing Nittiri’s normal mode because I haven’t built up enough to do Nightscream allegedly

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But I’m maxed

fierce light
valid roost
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Only reason I can imagine wanting to keep playing is if you're playing with friends or helping new people, which is a given. Or if you're practicing to hyper optimize every little thing

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Or just get daily missions done and over with

cerulean temple
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Play ranked

valid roost
merry narwhal
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Ranked is what I usually end up doing lol was just wondering if some modes like Nitirri’s are worth the trade off of no rewards, since there’s other objectives to complete

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Like TI is only rewards

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But Nitirri’s can be long af too

hidden creek
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nothing is worth with no rewards

fiery light
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Ranking to get a better time 😁

hidden creek
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even when you spamming yama for that 1s improvement that's still some potential rewards

rotund forge
#

What's the tree nodes for wuchen poison

hidden creek
#

there's like 108 diff poison builds atm

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so which one you're asking about

valid roost
hidden creek
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i mean, like

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imagine enjoy playing showdown just for the sake of playing

valid roost
#

Some people just like the grind

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There wouldn't be games like Disgaea 1 where you grind for over 700 hours otherwise if you want to do everything

hidden creek
#

no no no the grind implies that you're playing for something other than just enjoying the gameplay itself

valid roost
#

I'm sure there are people that do just like to play for the sake of it

hidden creek
#

yeah

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crazy peeps

#

@fierce light I CALLED YOU OUT

viscid wraith
fierce light
#

I'm ngl, I've just barely been managing to max my fatigue the past 3 resets

hidden creek
rotund forge
#

Matari_Pepe_Laugh I never really do it mostly it's 600 cross

hidden creek
#

same

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😭

fierce light
#

Playing with a new build is fun, but it just takes too long

rotund forge
#

Matari_Pepe_Laugh they need to give out the legend jades more easily

hidden creek
frozen fog
#

I'm using thunder cannon build on tarka, what attributes am I looking for?

fierce light
frozen fog
#

without

fierce light
# frozen fog without

Then probably Attack, Divine Thunder DMG, & DMG to Bosses. The rest being Windfall.

frozen fog
#

Thanks

valid roost
fierce light
#

Wouldn't really recommend it for solo-bossing though

peak pelican
#

I wanted to build Tessa counter build anyone got any build for me is it worth doing it?

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New to showdown

mossy orbit
#

Somebody play showdown mode zzStarleHuh

fierce light
peak pelican
#

i will figure it out maybe

peak pelican
#

@fierce light Alright i kinda understand the Souljades now :3 Do i need the Scorching Attributes on every souljades or nah?
The Potential i don't know what's that you said i found Blazing flame in the prep thingy do i need to choose one of those three or all of them?
and the Counter Prowess 36/36, Dodge Prowess 12/36 i don't know also hehe

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I might've figure it out nvm check dm

fierce light
#

Blazing Flame, gives a DMG Bonus to burns based on your health, it's the capstone node on blue path

peak pelican
#

Just like the picture i send you exactly?

peak pelican
fierce light
#

+3 x4

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You can increase each one up to +3, if they don't roll that high

peak pelican
#

Ohhhh okii i understand everything now :33

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TYSMM!

fathom edge
#

Anyone able to help me with this quest please? EU

fair jungle
fickle linden
#

easy battle is only weekends

mossy orbit
fair jungle
#

also next is enigma

mossy orbit
#

If somebody playing, add me pls Kurumi_question pinkroses

rotund forge
#

If u can switch to SEA we can play

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Tianhai_KimchiDerp my EU ping make it laggy

mossy orbit
rotund forge
mossy orbit
rotund forge
kind escarp
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i mean id like to help..but im pretty pathetic in anything other than solo even in my own server

rotund forge
#

Matari_Pepe_Laugh if he was new and crying about ping I would have whopped his ass

kind escarp
misty bridge
kind escarp
fair jungle
#

do u have to reach a certain level before u unlock curios?

kind escarp
fair jungle
#

friend returned and they cant craft

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and i have no clue why

kind escarp
#

old ones?

fair jungle
#

no in general

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if they try to click on curio its locked

kind escarp
kind escarp
#

ohh

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well then yeah maybe...never saw this b4

fair jungle
#

ye me neither

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they can run first ti tho

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thats why im confused

kind escarp
fair jungle
#

i think we got it

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they turned fatigue off

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and didnt get crafting ressources

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kekw

kind escarp
fair jungle
#

still thanks for trying to help

viscid wraith
valid roost
#

Maybe the game also disables curios if they're below level 15 for the showdown season? Since the minimum to enter is level 15

merry narwhal
#

What is the Rage/DMG stat exactly?

marble kindle
#

The harder you hit the more rage you get

merry narwhal
#

Ohhhh okay that makes sense

#

Thank you, it was vague to me lol

fair jungle
#

but its bc they turned fatigue accumulation off xd

marble kindle
#

How long do we have for TI?

hidden creek
#

Til new season begins

marble kindle
#

okies

rotund forge
#

@chilly kestrel send me wuchen tree

chilly kestrel
#

uh but this week im using diff build. pretty sure the top 1 guy is using the usual tree

rotund forge
#

U aren't the top 1?

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Wait

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U aren't even there

chilly kestrel
rotund forge
chilly kestrel
#

idc abt trios Matari_Pepe_Laugh

rotund forge
chilly kestrel
rotund forge
chilly kestrel
rotund forge
#

If a hacker enters then it's different story

chilly kestrel
rotund forge
#

The situation randoms put me in

hidden creek
#

oh wow i just realized current season ends in 2 weeks

rapid matrix
#

Hey guys would like to ask.. are they a specific hero that is like meta for Showdown? or just play whatever you feels like it

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Because i had skin on Zai hahaha so i wanna play Zai

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But at the same time i saw Feria mechanic is like different from normal game mode where you blast your way to victory

rapid matrix
hidden creek
rapid matrix
#

oo

hidden creek
#

though currently we got curios so the meta gonna shift again after curios got disabled

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when new season begins

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which is in 2 weeks

rapid matrix
#

why specific yama? sorry i havent touch this Showdown mode yet

hidden creek
rapid matrix
#

Ohhhh

hidden creek
#

ur hero, ur gameplay, ur build

#

the best of the best competes for top spots

rapid matrix
#

seems like they all using Viper Ning lol

hidden creek
rapid matrix
#

or am i looking at hte wrong way

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oh wait nvm haha, i was in viper ning tab

hidden creek
#

oh wow everyone is running tscorch surge with radiance and goblet

#

lmfao

rapid matrix
#

jesus valda is 0.40

hidden creek
#

yeah

rapid matrix
hidden creek
#

but when new season begins valda gonna b trash again lmfao

rapid matrix
#

wow matari also 0.4

rapid matrix
hidden creek
#

w/o curio she's one of the most trash hero

#

with curio one of the best though lol

rapid matrix
#

ok let's say i always duo with a friend but i dont htink that duo exist in modes yet

#

mainly they focus in trio and solo...

#

Which hero *would be suitable for it?

hidden creek
#

you can disable party fill and play duo in trio

rapid matrix
#

you recommend i gues haha seems like you're wikipedia here

hidden creek
rapid matrix
#

or chatgpt xd

hidden creek
#

check out his site

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it's on pinned

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actually checkout all the posts on pinned

rapid matrix
#

oh god ok

#

in prepartion, the potential

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Below it, there's element

hidden creek
#

yeah you select an element and some of the potential nodes will changes according to the element you selected

rapid matrix
#

oo

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wow that s cool

kind escarp
rapid matrix
#

gosh alot using counter ._.

#

and i aint good at countering zzz

hidden creek
#

💀

#

can't stand musket dumb hitbox

#

but yeah

#

she's prolly still gud or at least decent with tscorch musket

stable stream
#

anyone can play showdown with me? or evolution?

rapid matrix
#

@hidden creek thx for the info imma bounce now

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cya

hidden creek
#

glhf

kind escarp
#

hope they wont nerf it so i can just use it for the whole 1st half this season too

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i mean next season

hidden creek
#

imma stick to my temmy bow

#

screw musket

kind escarp
stable stream
#

wait how you unlock more characters in showdown? i got only few

hidden creek
#

unlock them in pvp u got them in pve too

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but you'd need to level them up

stable stream
#

ah

#

what weapons you like to run in showdown?

hidden creek
#

you can't choose ur weapon

#

it's hero bound

chrome seal
#

New hero coming in 2weeks?

hidden creek
#

uhh maybe

kind escarp
#

i mean new one is def coming but nobody knows who

chrome seal
#

I really dislike the whipsword attacks animations durations so I wasn't satisfied by Zai at all

viscid wraith
#

I can imagine it being xunhuan

hidden creek
#

yeah zai release is a real flop

#

akos too

kind escarp
#

lol only played akos on release

hidden creek
#

fistblade mechanics is interesting at first but people quickly found out that it sucks in real scenarios

#

the issue with akos and zai is they can't make the most out of any builds

limpid pecan
#

i cant imagine what they were thinking with zai

#

at least let her trigger ice blast with one F or something like cmon

#

also this F loves to go somewhere completely not even close to where i am aiming

kind escarp
#

been using this on her...kind of fun not that strong tho...only usable on topaz

limpid pecan
#

if they add like 2 zeroes to skyfire dmg multiplier

#

maybe this build can take off

rotund forge
hidden creek
#

lol skyfire

#

🤣

rotund forge
#

She can't abuse the radiant ward

limpid pecan
#

the curio doesnt trigger?

kind escarp
#

skyfire barely does anything

rotund forge
limpid pecan
#

skyfire is basically "increase temperature of ur graphics card"

rotund forge
#

Tianhai_KimchiDerp and most of time enemy don't even attack

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Since they are flying in air with wuchen fan

#

Or kylin throwing em away

limpid pecan
#

i mean ye in inferno

kind escarp
#

most dmg just comes with radiance flow 😭

limpid pecan
#

its awful

kind escarp
hidden creek
#

i've always think defuse reliant builds are dumb

kind escarp
#

it kind of is except on bosses

limpid pecan
#

the defuse builds kinda need to have alterantive condition

#

like hit with aegis break martial skill or something

kind escarp
#

that would be too broken on lotus mark

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spam the skill the whole time

#

actually would be a good idea when the boss is down

hidden creek
#

it isn't about how strong or weak those builds are, it's about the way it works
defuse is a defensive mechanic, you want to do damages you attack, then when the boss throw an attack you defuse/parry/dodge it and get back to attacking to maximizing ur output, that's the thrill of showdown, the ability to perfect defuse/parry/dodge then immediately back to attacking, no gap in rotation is what seperate a good player from a bad one

rotund forge
hidden creek
#

while on defuse reliant builds you're just.. in defense mode all the times

#

which is fkin dumb

kind escarp
#

then have to mix some things a bit

#

to smth like this

fierce light
valid roost
#

I wonder if Valda's curio will still be cream of the crop next TI cycle or if they'll find a way to powercreep it

drifting lanceBOT
#

🎉 | Lichmassacre KOF leveled up!

fierce light
merry narwhal
#

What's an example of a defuse build? Is it just anything that specs in that part of the tree, or is is more a build that can't start its dmg on its own?

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B/c I play Justina, and have most of my stuff spec'd into defuse branch, but I can still activate the orbs with ice build up and use abilities without waiting to be attacked

limpid pecan
#

build where most of ur damage comes from activation of defuses

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like burn builds etc

fair jungle
fierce light
west crater
amber terrace
kind escarp
crimson pumice
drowsy crow
stable stream
#

where people queue for the showdown or is everyone just soloing

fierce light
#

But mostly people queue for Tempered Inferno.

stable stream
#

isnt fatigue reset daily or?

valid roost
#

No, weekly

#

It would turn showdown into a second full time job if it was reset daily

fierce light
stable stream
#

ah ok

fierce light
#

They could honestly rebalance Fatigue.

  • Give +350 Fatigue per Day, weekends give +525.
  • First 600 Fatigue per Week has 50% increased drops.
  • Fatigue caps at 3000.
  • Catch Up Points can be redeemed at every 600 Fatigue spent.
  • Nirriti's Ruins • Nightscream consumes 90 Fatigue.
  • Nirriti's Ruins • Legend consumes 135 Fatigue.
amber terrace
#

@balmy coral look like Boa Hancock in OP

marble kindle
amber terrace
#

tier 2 skin not have too

#

first look in my mind is Tang Monk has b**bs

kind escarp
#

would they change the map of niriti and enigma domain at the start of season as well Tianhai_Pepe_Hmm

#

hate deserts in general

marble kindle
#

Imbued Nitiri?

kind escarp
merry narwhal
#

Anyone around to help me with enigma peak? ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

fickle linden
#

for 3 games

novel shell
misty bridge
merry narwhal
balmy coral
marble kindle
#

oh boy its that time of the week again

fickle linden
chilly kestrel
misty bridge
marble kindle
viscid wraith
marble kindle
#

This Telemuch got mvp despite only doing 1/5 of our damage LOL

#

heal padding is real

fickle linden
misty bridge
marble kindle
chilly kestrel
still rivet
signal kite
viscid wraith
rotund forge
#

Tianhai_Pepe_Hmm porkhai

#

Oh wait

#

Porkmulch

kind escarp
fathom edge
warped falcon
stoic rapids
#

When this ss end guys

kind escarp
amber terrace
stoic rapids
#

So we’ll have new champ next weak?.?

fickle linden
kind escarp
#

yeah maybe in test server

fickle linden
#

game removed all souljades and curios from my viper ning

kind escarp
fathom edge
#

I was kind of hoping for this paragon 20 to be more challenging 🤷🏻‍♂️ idk

fair jungle
#

nothing is challengig w curios tbh

drifting lanceBOT
#

🎉 | da leveled up!

exotic solstice
#

w devs

fair jungle
#

he just built different

fathom edge
kind escarp
#

i mean usually last stage dont even have any omens but this one have some

fickle linden
#

last paragon is always new boss

#

so agnivat this time

#

omen is the healing reduction one

kind escarp
#

they added hellhole and some other one this time for some reason

fair jungle
#

100pc wr

#

simply the goat

fickle linden
#

naraka looking for cheaters

fair jungle
#

kekw

balmy coral
#

I lost hope on this game every time I come here @amber terrace

fierce light
kind escarp
#

yeah smth like this

exotic solstice
#

No one is giving a f

kind escarp
#

there's really no point banning the cheaters without fixing the root of the issue

fierce light
#

How long is this CN holiday?

fickle linden
#

for a company that claimed they banned 200,000 cheaters in a year they sure seem slow to ban cheaters, lol

fickle linden
kind escarp
#

it should be over now yeah

kind escarp
fierce light
#

Ah okay cause hearing a lot of 💩 going down in CN games lol

marble kindle
#

Did TI to quickly do the event and goddamn Agnivat got legs

marble kindle
chrome seal
marble kindle
#

I found out she has another one when she's in fire form

#

I got it but some monster jumped in front of the screen

#

I'm just dash spamming and then out of no where I get grabbed

merry narwhal
#

If I remember right, the Matron just steps on you lol

marble kindle
#

nah she strokes you

merry narwhal
#

Ohhhh okay two different animations is crazy

marble kindle
#

Her ice form is annoying tho in TI

#

"Drag the boss to the pool"

#

but it could be worse, they could of added the wolf boss and we watch everyone get wiped out

chrome seal
#

I mean they are quiet annoying too
But not as much as wolf and deer

marble kindle
#

Wolf woman wiping everyone out with large area/full map attacks

#

oh and then her fake outs

merry narwhal
#

Doesn’t help that some teammates like to run to the boss Matari_Pepe_Laugh

amber terrace
#

@balmy coral TI?

marble kindle
#

and I didn't know about it

#

I don't trust anyone playing Tianhai, I'm dodging if I see one lmao

kind escarp
#

to make it better i have giggle physics on Matari_Pepe_Laugh

marble kindle
#

oh thats a given

marble kindle
#

NOT THE CATS

chrome seal
#

Probably one of the best gifs I've seen in mah life

rotund forge
#

I wonder what u do when they scratch u

chilly kestrel
hollow herald
#

Tempered Inferno is no longer time-limited?

fierce light
hollow herald
fickle linden
hollow herald
fickle linden
#

it's always available for last 1/3 of season

#

last season was shorter so it was only month or something

fierce light
#

Was also one of the last short seasons we'll have.

balmy coral
signal kite
#

Any idea who's gonna be the next hero

#

Hadi ?

turbid agate
#

i would put money on Li, whetever his name is lol.

viscid wraith
#

same here Matari_Pepe_Laugh

rotund forge
fathom edge
shrewd basin
#

Ngl I wouldn’t mind Hadi he would need a showdown rework and he’d be another thunder scorch user

turbid agate
#

I would love it to be lannie, little hat trick on bosses bebu_hihi

kind escarp
#

but takeda Justina_cutie_question_confused

valid roost
#

As much as it'd be cool he's added to Showdown, current political tensions pretty much ensure that'll never happen but I won't say more than that due to server rules

limpid pecan
#

lmao what

#

he is already in game anyway

kind escarp
#

is there a bug or smth...my orbs dont attack anyone close

chilly kestrel
fickle linden
drowsy crow
merry narwhal
signal kite
fickle linden
#

@merry narwhal u still need help with peak?

merry narwhal
#

Ya, I'll be on later est

fickle linden
#

okie

amber terrace
#

@balmy coral TI?

urban imp
balmy coral
#

No wifi

peak finch
#

We got him banned, I hope this behavior doesn't happen again.

fickle linden
#

i mean all he has to do is make a new steam account, game is free too

#

not like he needs to farm curios or jades to get rank 1 again

hidden creek
peak finch
#

1 day

#

We still scared of last minute abusing 🙁

fickle linden
#

even if he does it again, he won't be the first cheater to get top 3 ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

#

wish their anticheat would do something instead of we having to report most blatant cheaters ever

#

but atleast they finally banned him

#

some progress

peak finch
#

I wish if they keep an eye on it and review the top 3 accounts in each hero before new season

fickle linden
#

that would be nice

#

but they didn't do that for last PVP season so i don't think they will do that for even less popular showdown mode

peak finch
#

At least we can still report before the server close

#

I believe they will do something

subtle bramble
#

i hope it's him Kurumi_cry

fickle linden
chrome seal
chrome seal
fickle linden
kind escarp
#

dk if he could change dmg values

#

if so...there r other stuffs that comes with that.. for an example infinite stamina or infinite skills

#

i saw a feria on a snd match with infinite aegis break

fickle linden
#

his whole name is just advertisement to sell his cheats

kind escarp
#

prob i said it here sometime ago

kind escarp
#

or to expose

fickle linden
#

could be yeah

kind escarp
#

devs need to fix anticheat so it will insta ban sm1 if they even try to tickle it

fickle linden
#

i wonder what their kernel-level anticheat even does

#

other than act as potential security, privacy and stability risk for every player lol

fickle linden
#

yeah all info straight to chinese gov

chrome seal
chrome seal
fierce light
chrome seal
chrome seal
kind escarp
#

anyways it aint that deep im jk obv ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

merry narwhal
warped falcon
fathom edge
fierce light
#

The emoji spam returns

valid roost
#

Fending for your life for check in bot points gets tough out there in the real world

marble kindle
#

I think this is one, I can't see how they can do it without Curios

#

oh wait this is Trios nevermind

#

damn, I keep thinking the first one is solos nevermind

fierce light
# marble kindle

Yeah that's pretty sus, that's like the Kylin build outside of Curios

#

Not even regular Thunder Scorch Surge

valid roost
#

It's completely sus but it's also the trios leaderboard so they probably got carried very hard... But still sus

shrewd mesa
#

LF ruin nightmare clear im under the level req for it