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No.
It does give rank up
funnily
huh, im not keeping SS up and im parrying tshock 24/7 with kylin
Hack build or real?
That is valda build before curio CN using same on valda too.
Defuse gives way more.. i used wuchen tpull + tproof and chain defuse all thunder 
i think it is not hack he\she had play 15000 times
maybe it's good build for trios, i usually check solos for builds
build i linked was solo rank 1 too
didn't even check what trios use
That is standard musket deadeye build.. but valda scorching musket would be more powerful than this.. wait for 1/2 days more to get new ranking
trios i feel is not great to look at builds because some ppl just get carried there
by some OP players
or cheaters

True 💯
oh yeah i forgot i watch tios 
hehe
Valda safe build would be what @fickle linden shared.. lasts Enough after season as well
Best build for her even beats thunder scorch
And the buff valda receives after breakthrough aura
I'm surprised the top isn't with a Valda Scorching build
i wish they would have some other builds for these events to borrow than boring same ones everytime
like i would have loved to try valda or something this event
but instead it's justina and ziping again
it takes so much investment to build something i sure would love to try it in games few times before going for it
yeah we should can try more cuz one builds is kinda need lot of invest
the only way to borrow some more obscure builds is to have a friend who has it
https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1315707167302615103 or have the chance to test it in free training 
man tposing thru the sky is kinda lit
Ye rite
the "some resources" are just the 2 new materials in event rewards 
oh that's YEAR old
sheesh
Definitely gotta try that out XD.
if anyone is down we need a third for enigma peak thunder/poison on sea #🐲┃showdown-lfg message 🙏
The limited time event missions give less resources than an optimal grind usually would
atleast they usually give good jades for builds
but the best thing about them is that they are fast to do 
im ngl its also kinda fun too
Usually just whatever jades are newest
i get plenty of people to q up and tank for me while i do bowjobs
I'd rather them improve the core grind. Hopefully the rating system gets added to Ruins.
without the caveat of having to get ss for rewards sure
am i tripping or does hitting weakspot w range weapon pump the rank meter up too
lol you can trigger it twice.
when i first read i thought windball attack aka. skill dmg. 80% is huge
Never trust a 24E dev
Whatever they say they're
It stacks? Figured it just refreshed when you summoned them and again when you throw them.
ye it refreshes
probably 1 or 2 mods will be enough as you only want it every 10 secs
anybody can help me? how do you use these? if i go select I come to character screen but I cant use it when clicking upgrade
WWWW
that is for breaking through past level 20
so u need one for each level after 20
ah ok ty
You're not high enough level yet if it's not asking for it.
Reset can't come any closer
i knowwww
Got nothing to do
use it on topaz to maximize it use gold key if u have
will that give the reward?
Or the new mode if u already used the 3x rewards
Yeah, as long as you have 1 Fatigue free you can get full rewards
oh awesome
If u have elixir u can use it too for 2x reward
If u still have not done it 3 times this week ye
@fierce light what day does the double reward event reset
NA time
2400 fatigue done now lmaoo
would anyone be down to do paragon 4? am with my friend trying to beat it (sea server)
@balmy coral good gem

I don't play much ngl I just run around Kaifeng 
noice
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yea this

Care to share? I love Valda and the way she handles the Spear is amazing. But i love Ziping's Spearplay more and you wouldn't expect that from her. Played with Valda a few times and i love her flexibility. Especially her Defuse.
the build i shared uses musket, not spear

Oh that would be ok. Didn't do much on that regard so some suggestion would be welcome.
so is telmuch 21 actually strong or is it just ok
Too expensive to test and see lol
If it does in fact work properly though, then that's the same buff as Akos ult.
Oh I forgot Free Training sets you to Lv. 25.
can you test in free training if the kylin lvl 21 is bugged like someone said?
I gotta figure how ima list the masteries for each build.
I'll try in a bit
should I just recast that one windfall to another max non rare
Yup.
Thank youuu

Когда энергия обновляется в приключениях? новая неделя же вроде началась
Oh thanks for that. Will surely try it out at some point.
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What can i do with blue sj other than sj conversion? Would like to deconstruct them directly, but isn't possible it seems.
Currently, there's no way to deconstruct Blue Souljades directly.
Yeah sadly. I always hit the cap of 600 sj cause i have this habbit of keeping at least 1 of each sj and then also keep the ones that have the usual recommended stats like attack, dmg to boss, ele dam bonus etc.
Instead of focusing ones with the correct stats, you should focus the ones with stats >90%
Can be expensive to increase the % of a stat. While you can fix it to the correct one easily while going for rares.
Yeah very true. I gotta do some clean-up at some time anyway. Will heed that advice.
Good or skip ?
Skyfire is pretty bad, even with the buff
Very limited in what it can scale from
any recommend for different rune ?
i use it with the Mastery Whips
If you don't have a main set yet, I'd say wait a couple patches as the meta might shift
paragon 10 isnt even arrived yet🤣
lmfaoo
huh the new deadeye might (stacking 12/24/[36?] attack bonus for entering and leaving deadeye up to 15) + deadeye epiphany (66% less deadeye meter) in nirriti is kinda fun; you can stack an absurd amount of attack bonus
Not perfect but that’s what I got so far, depending on the bosses I’ll most likely go for 10 again
Ah so paragon 10 has been in past seasons?
Yes
Yeah it’s a weekly thing I think, every week we get another round of Abyss
cool
Pain
Oh didn't know that. I usually only do the ones that give me the usual rewards and be done with it. Sometimes randomly joining someone on the Paragons just for fun (or additional stress).
kk
Yeah it's pretty much the main competitive mode. It'll be a lot easier to reach when Curios come out as well.
they kinda made yama piss easy tho
i remember in deepwood season
u had to grind a bit
to even complete paragon 10
let alone get good time
How many breakthroughs do we get?
3 only?
If so how I get my armor gold if that’s not til lvl 24 somebody help me understand
You get 1 per week (24-25 cost 2 breaks)
Always depends on char and build, some are better than others and some builds defer per char aswell
i see
im using justina
4x moderation 2x windfall
still working on the rest
i just need to learn the boss movesets more too
Yeah mods at 4 already very good, now u want everything else with Ice Atk Boss dmg and windfalls all over the place
working on the temulch poison bow build for single target
so if i get any rare substats i can feed them into the justina build
Also get urself a horizontal Energy jade for additional ice build up
Then the usual ice build of course
unsure what substats to go for on the horizontal energy
just got ice damage on it rn
and attack
Use the same on it, I would say Atk, Ice dmg and Dmg against bosses + Windfall
And make sure to get timings right
Not spamming F, use it for chill spike, then 4 secs then F again
not spamming f?
ooh
didnt know about that
when aegis is down what is the best combo to go for?
ive just been charging horizontals
I either go Charged into Aegis break while Aegis is up or Charged into tap (Souljade effect for Justina) into another single hit into F
Yeah I think so
Well I think a lot of players can't even reach 8 right now. The main difference is that the older players didn't have to grind for a new set this season.
Paragon 6 had quite a difficulty spike.
Borrowing the trial heroes.

You use her Skill whenever Ice Blast is off-cooldown only.
Basically if you see this symbol, don't use it.
anyone want to do a couple of new mode for ss? EU
What are the subs to prioritise for scorching thunder build
Health > Atk > Dmg to Boss > Thunder Dmg (the last 2 stats are placeholder till you get scorch to 12 and rest of them windfall)
so hp and atk on all
@fierce light bro can you tell me the dmg difference / ProsCons between ThunderScorchSurge with only 1 thunder wield and if I would go for 6 wields ?
It takes about 15% more attacks/damage to charge your Thundershock at max Wielding vs 1 Wielding.
Now that heroes can get gold armor, it would be better to run sap+copper ward to increase scorching dmg?
Or just crazyness go without armor
Copper Ward got nerfed pretty hard (+60% Health to +40%) and the extra Souljade slot gives more diminishing returns from Health than Attack. Gold Armor doesn't make it more effective either, so there's less reason to use it now.
Sap works pretty well, though, for certain heroes it's a down grade, such as Tessa & Tarka Ji.
Alright so basically I’ll go with 1 or 2 if I use Blazing Cyclone ?
Your Wielding on your Mastery Jade won't affect the rate you build it.
Ouh that’s nice
Regarding this, is it that Akos was placed incorrectly in the patch notes, or is the game itself bugged?
I'll test it in a bit, but hoping it's just a typo in-game.
I confess I didn't test the damage increase when I leveled up to 21. So I can't say T-T
Yeah, i didn't either, but I know the base dmg it should do, so it's just dividing by that to see the new multiplier.
Can confirm they didn't boost the Aegis-break nor Defuse Counterattack DMG.
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It appears to be working correctly.
Zai's Skill has a slightly higher multiplier than Kylin's (1220% vs 1210%) and gives her 9% Rage. Kylin's gives 10% Rage instead. This is with Enrage equipped so no Rage/s influenced it.
OMG, the Skill DMG increase actually increases the DMG Coefficient of the Skill by 25%.
So that's x1.25 more:
- Health Damage
- Aegis Damage
- Elemental Accumulation
Just went through and tested all the heroes, here's the effects gained from Lv. 21:
excuse me , should I read it from left to right or the right to left ?
Oh I forgot to adjust the Tiers. But yes, left to right. The heroes' names are on the left and their details to the right of them.

oh sheesh man... Thanks again, darkZero
wuchen better get OP curio
Defuse curio we know it yki

the boss is getting deaf 
Is it just me or the dmg output is a bit low outside of Justina?
cuz any Akos's skill need Shift


Does it give 3 or 4 charges for defusing in Wild Sweep ?
Akos's does 900% when uncharged, up to 1200%. Justina's does 1200% or 1500% at Lv. 21+.
-# % = percent of Attack

is that different from 4x moderation ice surge..?
or do u go skill cd on everything
different build
thunder justina
o.o
thanks
4x mod is mandatory for this build

Can kylin use this
this build better or the ult build
For kylin ult build
I believe and thunder surge scorch
Kylin has raw attack so ult will more good
Is this build going to be strong with matari too?
So far only majorly seen on Justina and yueshan
Matari can benefit too but she can do more good on poison mark in theory.. don't know the actual numbers
I already maxed out poison mark on matari so I hope it’s not any better x.x
Are you using toxin seep?
Yes
cool
so will only the stats change till lvl 25 ?
Sorry if I'm being blind, anyone know where I can find yoto's curio build?
Couldn't find it with ctrl+f or the pins
Also, roughly how much of an upgrade is it over ice surge in terms of dmg%?
Thank you!
sap but thunder musket or musket something i dont remember the exact name is good as well. u get his ult extremely fast if u use that 
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but we gotta use musket right
it's hit chance is so bad
Somehow this event I reached 1000 fatigue
They should keep it permanent
Delete enigma

yea. but its really great to get ur ult fast. even without the mastery jade u should be using musket to get his ult faster when u’re in surge 
I just like that aurora burst
fair enough. i do too 
I am already empty of fatigue 
is it going to be like this from now on?
Wdym?
Ice Surge doesn't boost her Skill or Ult damage at all, it's mainly focused on Ice Blast DMG.
Different Wieldings = more Moderation procs.
Nope weekly reset in 2 days
Not sure if Musket is the fastest anymore compared to Sap. Especially when you implement dodge cancels to activate the counterstrike faster.
~48.4% more Rage per Counterstrike from Sap than Musket's.
ohhh. imma try this in the event 
thank you 
Like there is a lvl 21 buff similarly the lvl 25 will be in proportion to these stats or there might be change in tier
?
@rotund forge come b4 12 today bro 
lvl 21 buff are according to hero.. lvl 25 is attack increase when u trigger elemental burst
Cyan Fang Zai could be fun in Inferno just saying.
oh hell no the screen
with lotuses
I have gone blind officially . . .
k got it
Each level gives its own separate buff.
Lv. 21 gives character-specific buffs.
Lv. 22 raises melee weapon to legendary.
-# ~+5.4% DPS increase.
Lv. 23 raises ranged weapon to legendary.
-# ~+5.4% DPS increase.
Lv. 24 raises armor to legendary.
-# +200 Armor
Lv. 25 gives an Attack buff following any Elemental Burst.
-# +16% Attack
also rn there is only one breakthrough stone per week right ?
through the weekly quests
Yeah, wouldn't recommend going above Lv. 22 on anyone rn, aside from maybe Temulch/Tessa.
atm you can only have gold armor in new mode
no way to get lvl 24 hero yourself, you gotta borrow event hero

Went ahead and added the Thunder Lotus Mark build to the site since it's held itself quite well in the meta so far.
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Would poison mark work?
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It works, but seems more niche to solo boss play.
Only recommended for justina, viper yueshan they are BiS to use that
Wonder if I can shoehorn this onto my Matari lul
Yeah i put that in
small correction defuse solidification is purple jade instead of gold
Weird, not sure why it's showing the legendary when I set it to epic
Oh nvm I see why. It's being particular between • and ·
how does this compare to the ice build? on justina
not like i have enough materials to swap at this point though xD
Stronger than Ice Surge for bossing, weaker for mobbing.
imo it's 1000x more sensible to build the most versatile build as your first build than to go for niche builds that work on only for few heroes in certain situations
with those 2 you have alot of options, for both bossing and mobbing
in all gamemodes showdown has
That's also assuming you can do the 180 skills repeteadly on Justina
Yueshan should be easier since it hones automatically.
ah i see,
i play a ton of justina in the br mode
so spamming the skill does sound fun
definitely gonna hold off for now though
clueless
Anyone doing demonbane SS runs?
you can solo it or find team in #🐲┃showdown-lfg
is telmuch gonna be stronger than tessa by any significant margin for bowjobs
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You know probably everyone here did misread that right?
XD
will do 2 games in 35min if u want to join
Well it's +80% Attack on Temulch vs x1.08 DMG on Tessa.
You'd need +900% Attack for +80% Attack to equal x1.08 DMG, otherwise Temulch will always be better for Bow build. This is even more so when you have low attributes.
-# 80% ÷ (100% + 900%) = 8%
Hmmm thunder lotus on zai
It can work on anyone with a damaging skill, just best on heroes with quick ones
was wondering why you didn't have mark on site this long
is dual chain not a solid option anymore?
@fierce light the new design is really goot too, nicely done.
Seeing it outperform Ice Surge on Justina with Ice Blast DMG amplified this high up in the stages was plenty proof that it works well. Thanks also.
Dual Chain might see a return when Curios come back.

Where does Temmy get that boost?
max fatigue for once
gotta love new mode
seems to be very low catch up pts from new event 
i mean telephone mulcher needs to throw his q to get his 80% damage buff so its a slight downtime r
Skill → 10s uptime → Skill 2 → 10s uptime → Ult + Run Out → 10s uptime → Skill 2 → 10s uptime.
Each Volley would deal 40-80% more damage (depending on how much Attack you already have), so just 2 and you've already made up for the downtime. This versus the 8% increase from Tessa's Skill for only 8s and goes away when you get hit.
justina no longer needs this lol, and using her on lotus is better too.
pretty decent buff, it's shame they trolled on Feria and gave her rage.
Ice Surge should still be her stronger option for Ice builds, assuming you use her Skill every 4s.
Which build for Zai? Is it decided yet? I checked the website guide but couldn't see Zai in heros listed
no point building zai yet, curios in 3 weeks
She can use the same builds as Justina, except for Bow builds ofc.
zai F kinda annoying mobbing in enigma sometimes i hit it in middle of mobs thinking ill get them all and have no idea how long the range is and it misses every single mob 
Yeah, I end up having to target the ground under them instead.
Is there some kind of glitch on the Musket in Showdown? It quite often misses, even if i clearly aimed at the target. Even with auto-aim.
Talking mostly about the smaller enemies.
Yeah, it has hit registration issues.
It's like that since a long time though. Unfixable?
It's been a thing ever since they gave Musket Deadeye. Which was last season.
I'm glad we have Sap now so I don't even have to bother with Musket on Kylin.
Isn't she supposed to get a burning build?
I saved up 3k recast materials for that
Wanted to finally have a burn build xD
At Lv. 21 she gets a small bonus for them, but overall no big deal.
We might get a Curio for Burn this season
Im confused
So should I make burn build on her?
Tempered Inferno out in 3 weeks, best to just wait till then if you don't have one built
Hmm that's what I've been thinking if I should wait
Kinda losing patience tho
Wanna play her sooner but not on ice build
She has surprisingly good synergy with it, once you get used to her Skill
Thunder Scorch Surge will likely still be meta next season, but if they don't add a Curio I see it phasing out again when Tempered Inferno opens.
Just been slightly annoyed by constantly having to defuse the freeze
Justina can at least f in freeze
Aight
Gonna try this one
Hopefully curios won't shift it that much
Thanks man
Her Defuse let's her go into full charged Ground Crusher
Or gives you enhanced Skill + refresh in Ult
Oh yeah about that
What's the attack pattern to use on her?
Got ya
Skill + Vertical 1st Charge for quick Ice Blast with her Mastery Jade
I mean is charging 2.0 worth it over 2x1.0? And stuff
If your Skill is down some reason, Vertical 2nd Charge + Horizontal will proc it
Vertical 2nd Charge does nearly 3 times the damage, just risky with her long animations.
Perfect
Cheers
Hits almost as hard as a full Aurora Burst
What does cannot activate imbued elements mean?
On sap description

It's not considered in your overall Wielding value. Can't go above 6 Ice-Wielding for example.
Does this on thunder scorch surge actually suggest to do 3ice 1thunder and 2poison wieldings with ice main potential element?
I think the point is to get element burst for incineration?
But isn't 6 thunder wieldings better?
Yes, with Element Surge being Thunder-Wielding
More opportunities to activate Aquatic Prison for when your Draco Stride misses or you don't have enough stamina for it between parries.
Elemental damage is insignificant for the build, so 6 Thunder-Wielding would be more of a detriment due to the longer charge time and faster decay.
Thanks!
tht means more matches with catch up points right?

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lol this is interesting... say upgraded but haven't done anything
Mistranslation
psure it should be ''upgrade'' 
"Upgraded" should be just "Upgrade"
but on zai/jutina/zip other hero it says breakthough lol
I would assume TScorch or Chill spike
I think its cus you have to get the XP 20>21
"Upgraded" = character can still be leveled up to the Breakthrough point
Breakthrough = Needs Stone
shouldn't be tscorch since she wants to defuse not parry
but ig if tscorch is that better compare to other builds then it's just good on everyone
ahh got it
Zai has mechanics revolving around spamming F and burn
Ah right
Defuse Flaming Blade and such
how many of the breakthrough things will come after reset troday
But those are kind of weak
And Copper Ward got nerfed and it doesn't benefit from the Legendary upgrade
so this build again?
We would have 4 in total
Including the 2 event ones
Current tree requires Hydroflare or you sack your damage really bad
bcoz of her ult?
yes.. she can do back to back skyfire
but dmg multiplier is bad
even after buff
But Zai doesn't want to proc Hydroflare and just wants to amp her burn for Skyfire, but Skyfire is so bad
so dmg from hydroflare won't counts toward the rage gain after the ult wears offf?
Basically we need to wait for next season. I'm pretty sure they'll change the burn tree with Zai, Tarka, and Valda in mind, buff Copper and buff Skyfire
yes
Yes
Yes
holy
Yeah, is why you don't see her played competitively
zai is garbage then
Unfortunately
Current the jades and potential don't enable her ideal playstyle
maybe they are prepping for curio for skyfire lol
and her F doesnt seem to proc ice blast in one hit either
was gonna say the same
welp
It does not
wait for curio ig
need to hit 1st vertical charge using whipsword jade
after using F
I think there are some cooks who try the 3 element wielding with Skyfire and Defuse Flame Blade to pop burn
Zai's buildpath is kind of cursed rn
Almost as cursed as Matari's Surge/Mark build from CN, but unlike Zai, that build is competitively viable
It's pretty good
You can chain defuse even though it's that shtty auto defuse like Tarka and Tianhai
Also defuse into Flaming Cyclone is pretty dope, you get three spinning flame rings
lol
I liked it on Zai, on Tianhai it felt super clunky and locked you into that stupid fish flopping animation
maybe curio will do that
also bow is crazy now lmfao
Bow is super broken on Temmy
Now most leaderboard times sub 1:20 require a good Temmy plus support
Until Curios
temmy + justina thunder lotus mark is essential now before curio
lol
depends on hero
that's the thing i'm trying to avoid
one sap for everyone who run it
Don't run it on Tessa or Tarka
Huge nerf for them
duh
hmm
blazing cyclone is enhanced after a succesful defuse counterattack
so should we do 2nd stage blazing cyclone in this case?
whip cyanfang feels so good though
Zai sucks ass
Holy f her animations are so long
That's literally grieving her
Her Lv. 21 boosts all burn and she has some base burns in her kit that'll scale from the same things as TScorch. The burn from her Ultimate attack is stronger than Scorching if you apply all 6, but the time it takes to do so makes it about the same dps
Yeah all her charged attacks are over 2s, but she's one of the few characters with attacks having 1200%+ scaling. Her 2nd stage attacks dealing damage comparable to a full Aurora Burst.
It just enhances the burn and AoE it applies. The hit dmg stays the same.
i kinda wonder if its possible to just play hydroflare with her
and maybe the partial burn dmg here and there
will give enough rage?
to restore ult
You still get a decent amount of ult charge while running HydroFlare
Since her burns have such a short duration, they get a lot of it off before you can apply HydroFlare
which means....?
does her burn dmg charge more rage if u have higher stat bonuses to burn?
I did Demonbane Realm a few times with some randoms and in one run we reached SS rank at some point. Saw that there are challenges for it, so how do i reach SS? Counters and defuses?
She's perfectly fine using TScorch as she doesn't gain much of anything from constantly ulting atm
That I'd have to test
Yes, Counters, Defuses and Perfect Dodges.
i see
her curio def gonna make her ultilize her kit
if you run with random you can just ask them to focus on defuses at the beginning to get SS first
then play however you want
Good idea, but i can't write on PS5. Maybe i should try signalizing them in the preparation screen by constantly doing counter, defuse and dodges and hoping for them to have very good foresight.
That prolly won't work
Ppl usually just spam buttons while waiting for teammates in showdown match preparation
Including spam clicking defuse
So if you do that, it may simply not matter
I heard ppl connect keyboards to consoles
weekly reset in 5hrs if you are online then you can join me and my friend for few demonbane games
we'll get you few SS
or just get a premade team
Yeah it's still a plan i have. My poor controllers already suffering from the inbuilt stickdrift should be at least saved from the torture of me writing on it.
I havent been active for a while can someone pls tell me what this new jadespace is about?😁
It's close to reset and you can max your fatigue so quick in the mode so I doubt people are going for SS right now. You can just focus on building the rating yourself though while they do damage if you still need it
if you use thunder build defuse the thunder instead of parrying it. parrying gives almost no SS rank up, but defusing gives a nice amount
I might not be on then, but if i am, i'll keep it in mind. And i can do my part too. Doing decent play with my Ziping.
It's for Mastery Jades which alter specific weapon attacks in some way.
You still benefit from the attributes on them, so every build should use them
Sap is the only universal one.
Not recommended for everyone and pretty much useless for non-Thunder Counter builds tho
sap, cyan fang and horizontal energy or whatever it is that LS uses gets you pretty far
viper, justina, some TS builds and ziping done with those
that's the 3 mastery jades i recasted better asap
Still waiting for Curios to do any Recasting.
Wasting all those resources for one Windfall makes me not want to work on anything
you can't be that unlucky again
well, 3 times in a row. you were kinda very unlucky with your last WF in ice lotus build too
atleast bow builds in between there went better i imagine 
Hoping we don't have a triple burn meta for Curios or I'm screwed
Don't have enough mats to build one
TI should be open 2 months this season, get plenty of mats during that atleast
Yeah that's happened to me a few times, thankfully you can just jump back into the stream.
Am I getting stunned by other thunder? Or am I missing a mechanic? Cuz I’ve running Tessa poison bow but I’m getting the stagger animation from thunder?
It’s happened more than twice
ur teammate staggering you
Why is that a thing 
For me it happened right at the start of the last stream. I just fell down. Couldn't jump back immediately cause it was still too high. Had to walk for a bit. It was exhausting.
If they're standing over you it can stagger you, but you can parry it as well.
Welp I’ve learned something today
wht is tht ?
I can parry others thunder
you didn't knew tht ?
Nope
just annoyin to keep track of your teammate's thunder
well I got to know tht during nirriti runs
Fr I was like why tf am I getting staggered on posion
when i play kylin i try to keep away from other players a bit so i dont stagger them if i miss thunder parry
which build you us e?
well jus don't miss it

sometimes you just get hit from back in TI and cant parry it in time
Listen here you little 💩
forgot to add piece of
also forgot to remove crop watermark
i find it funny lol
like a bird
flying then lands on a branch
🤣
Those jades weren't Even there 2 season ago lol🤣 which build are you talking?
nono not exactly
my valda build last season or last to last season had poison ice and thunder all three
maybe saved in presets lemme check
How do curios work btw?
and how come the ones that exist are inactive rn
Is it only for tempered inferno?
they work in everywhere except in nirriti's ruins
but they are only active during end of the season, same as tempered inferno mode
you need to craft new curios every season, but you keep your crafting levels
Backfire and Desperation was a staple the first patch they added Souljades to Showdown.
Went away though when they added Elements.
Before I quit over a year ago I think meta was yueshan thunder counter with those two souljades
no idea when that was or how soon he got powercrept after that lmao
Thanks
So tempered inferno is the best place to farm for things to deconstruct? Is it a boss rush or
something else
It's the only place to farm Curios.
it's not place to farm jades to deconstruct
Oh damn
but it's the only place to farm curio materials
so it's must play end of the season
I see, so what makes kylin really good there?
saw dark mention planning to level him to 22 for it
Is it fine to just use justina? Only have the ice surge built as of now maybe another ice surge user could work better
it's fine to use justina you can only have 1 kylin in your party anyway
you have pretty much 24/7 ult in inferno with kylin and he does crazy high dmg
Oh wow lmfao
i wonder if kylin gets dedicated curio this time
i keep forgetting that he didn't get one last year because the general ones were so good on him
my friend uses kylin a lot, yeah that’s insane
how long will we have the curios before they go inactive again?
Verve Banner is almost as good as an exclusive Curio for him
Hopefully his exclusive Curio is a Yang Curio so he can still use it.
Tempered Inferno will open <t:1767070740:R>, on <t:1767070740:F>.
Season 4.0 Rimeflame will end <t:1773270000:R>, on <t:1773270000:F>.
I'll take it
What the different between normal and challenge demonbane realm? Whats better run to spend fatigue?
percentage and drop rewards are the same, but fatigue...
Fatigue and time to clear is longer/higher for Challenge.
So if i just want more jades to disbatch i can run normal, right?
Ty
first week of demonbane was better 
Fighting the 2nd phases this time
Dang 4 bosses you can't kill in 1st down
Mad lad got Wuchen Lv. 24.
anyone wanna farm event ss?
Stopping at 360 Fatigue for double drop event tommorow.
Thanks for the info 
You can stop at 450 if you're not going to use Elixir for it.
yeah that's why first week was better 

what substas do i want on my mastery? because moderation for example is already at 100%

Same as the others, Attack and Ice Blast DMG.
with windfall and moderation?? or just dmg to boss instead of mod?
Once you reach 4 Moderation, no point in getting more. So you can go 2 Windfalls or 1 Windfall + DMG to Bosses.
yeah my build for all heroes is 4 mod and 8 windfall as suggested in your guide. do i still go for windfall?
For mastery?
Just go 2 wf + element blast (if Ice surge) + attack
alr will do, thank you
also thanks @fierce light for all your guides etc <3
You're welcome.
Feels shii that the event was one time only
back to 600 fatigue per week next week
got to 2400 fatigue last week without even trying 
is topaz the most efficient to use fatigue on rn?
maybe wait for easy battle event tomorrow and look which game mode in showdown has omen 
Hmm game trying to make up for my bad luck ig
i rlly need some tips on how to complete this one
i was like "oh this one is close to be completed, time to farm some jades that i don't own"
and what i did - checked recommended sets of jades for characters, looked at the ones marked as "not owned", went to farm the level they drop at
so when i got the needed jade that i didn't own i went to check the achievement progress and it hasn't moved a bit even tho i got a new jade that i didn't have before
am i doing anything wrong? how do i get new jades for the achievement?
It's not completeable yet, we need more Legendary Jades to be added afaik
I've gotten every jade since Showdown introduced Souljades and haven't gotten it.
ohh that's how it is
welp i wasted some hours of my life then
ty for the answer tho
aight then i'm curious again why it didn't accept my new jade then
Everytime they've added new ones they removed some old ones
Ah nvm it is achievable now
Could've sworn we looked earlier this season and it wasn't.
does nirriti work for that? i have no clue how enigma works
tried to play it a couple times, got like 1 and a half jade
Nightscream Ruins can drop all jades
sad
what about enigma topaz?
or is peak better
ohh so for collection
peak
but for overall rerolling materials
topaz?
Enigma Peak has the highest rate of Epics and Legendaries. Enigma Topaz just more efficient on time/fatigue/keys/elixirs now.
so if i had infinite time, peak is still the way to go?
or with elixir and keys should i just be spamming topaz
If you happen to have a good team to clear it, a decent amount of elixirs to spare and the time for it yeah.
Has a 33.3% higher base rate of Legendaries and Epics than Enigma Topaz. The effect of Luck isn't known though.
You still get drops from it with Fatigue off?
Do they still scale with your reward %?
Ah okay
Guess I don't have to save fatigue for it then.
im curious how u guys use your fatigue
when using maxed builds
how do u make the most of it
should I still do ruins if ive maxed it out/reached lv24 forge?
alright ill try it out
thanks!
ahh
btw can anyone explain what does those mean when i play zai
It means you have a Defuse • Souljade on.
#🐲┃showdown-lfg message if anyone wants to enigma peak :>
i got it today

and what does it mean gameplay wise owo
The effect varies depending on which one you have on, but just means it's fully charged.
This achievement needs to be retranslated in general, since it's looking for "one of every type of legendary souljade," not "get 80 of any legendary souljades"
🎉 | Lichmassacre KOF leveled up!
I was stuck at 77 until the recent update
12 boss ?
how its this even possible with under 600 fatigue and a gold key
great first game of the day
same, i got so little drops for the last few enigmas, i stopped now
no point
nah maybe its just bad luck
everything is possible in naraka
if you're on SEA I can run peak with you
guys where is the best place to farm jade right now?
you still on ?
peak with gold key
can some one with bow build trash attribute solo peak?
yup
nope you need at least 2 people with max build
here my id 6494200110168
coming
oh hell nah
you have 3rd player ?
nope
then how will we run peak ?
with random
most of my match are with random and we still get pass all the boss
alright
crazy
you can find team in lfg
ingame one or discord ?
i mean you dont need all 2 with max build you just need 1 guy with max build to fight the boss the other 2 can just clear mob
discord
oh i see
Alright we play when I can find the third guy
bro can i join?
The other guy already off but I play right now if you willing to play with random
im okay with it just want to farm
OK give me a moment
thank
what server you on btw ?
SEA
did you send friend request ?

@outer gulch you still playing ?
yup, my friend had to go though
Alright give me a moment
no third guy those can we just match with random instead ?
@outer gulch my id: 6494200110168
yeah sure
is there a place to see what souljades are missing
preparation -> equip souljades -> souljade conversion -> click on this icon
to the right of convert
it brings u to a screen with what you haven't unlocked
thanks
Thanks from me too. I was just yesterday searching for that area and forgot where it was.
I think I unlocked all current ones so have to wait til new ones appear on an update?
^Guess so.
how do you do to play doom, i just cant find a queue, is there a day or hour where more ppl play?
not a lot of people play doom, you might want to lfg, the ones who do just go in w premade if they need group but most of us solo it
just borrow justina then solo it usually if you have nothing
i dont have good build to solo consistently, does the justina borrowed have a good build? idk how it works
Bow build sucks at mobbing, so no. The recent change to the % bosses give also made it harder to solo Peak.
Yeah they usually give her an ice build which she excels with.
Is maxing a character really worth is or are you fine with level 22?
Or just get those you play to 21
I'd strongly recommend against pushing anyone past 22 right now
Aside from maybe Temulch to 23 if you're focusing Bow build
for justina lotus mark build, is the mastery still horizontal energy?
Yeah, that's the go-to for elemental builds
if u have only one fav char just use it up
is zai good right now and is skyfire good to build?
top 5 imo, but i am biased tbh and jade dont know wouldt build anything for the next 2 weeks until curios are out
dark said skyfire is pretty bad
when wil curio patch release?
31
it's in pinned msgs
then what good
ice surge is fine for now if you have it already for every other hero in game pretty much, wait for curios before building anything new to her
Cryo zipping and no fear for Notting
something like that for now should be fine
just don't use horizontal energy 😛
i mean u can if u have it maxed already for justina
atleast u get high stats
hi all, does anyone know where i can get chaos stones for crafting curio? (other than the weekly check in)
tempered inferno opens in 3 weeks
that's the only place to farm curio materials
but im not yet at level 36 for the week T_T
1000 person wait to inferno's gate
i mean, i wont reach 36 by the end of the year
why wouldnt u use it for justina tho ?
i thought we were talking about zai
i've not tried i thought you could use maxed LS jade for stat boost for zai too
Waht Is ls?
longsword
i assume that if i use this build her ultimate is just add-on action then cuz counter is your main damage
you can if you play
i mean 36 what?
kinda, either parry or defuse since only 1 thunder drops u can defuse it and in ultimate ut enhanced charge is full again = more burn dmg = more rage conversion = infinite ultimate spam
last week top 1 rank in leaderboards for zai was ice surge build in EU
yea i guess since it wasnt pure boss lvl u couldnt spam that well
lets me ask you one thing is she suppose to be somekind of DOT character cuz with her burn ability and ULT recharge with burn stack then they put her in the game now with not so good jade suit her build and we have to wait till the next patch to see if anygood build for her?
the Thunderscroch Surge build i posted, u go with 12 scorch, each parry does hell ton of burn dmg, then u dodge and ur draco stride will do hydroflare dmg its pretty much all around burn, but ice is currentlz still the strongest
some for speed run ?
server ?
I'd say she's A-Tier.
Pros
- High damaging Skill that can't be interrupted and can be used while being hit.
- One of the few heroes with a Charged Attack having a DMG Multiplier above 1200%.
- Her Stage 2 Charged Attacks are the strongest in Showdown.
- Her Ultimate has access to 5s invulnerability.
- Has a quick and long-ranged Counterstrike.
- She can chain Defuses.
- Her Defuse can lead into a Stage 2 Charged Attack.
Cons - Her Charged Attack animations are generally longer than most heroes.
- Her Ultimate DPS is rather underwhelming.
- Her Skill hitbox can be somewhat unreliable.
- Her Stage 1 Charged Attacks are among the weakest in Showdown.
- She has the weakest Aegis-break Martial Skill in the game.
Skyfire
Despite the buffs, still rather bad to use since majority of the Burn Potential is focused on Hydroflare DMG rather than Burn DMG. Skyfire is also considered as Hit DMG, so it scales from the opposite things as Burn does aside from Attack.
As long as you're Crafting Lv. 1 in all of the Curios, you'll have access to them when Tempered Inferno opens up.

Double Drops is Ruins this week.
good
better than enigma
elixir + double drops gimme crystals
wish they would only have nirriti for double drops
no man give me peak
i got from 3 peak bonus runs whole lot of materials worth of full 2400 fatigue nirriti runs
@fierce light did you figure what's the duration for this, there's no icon for the boost to follow.
30s
i see, ty
you need 2 to go 24 to 25?? its already so bad how they drip feed these, gonna take forever to get multiple chars to 25
Yeah, have to choose wisely who you do
23 and 24 can be held off for most heroes.
my temmy is 24
zai is actually good in nirriti 
yeah i like her way more in nirriti than with my own builds 
Ah nice the xp carries over even if you don't breakthrough.
you can save those million alchemized souls then 
last week I already saw someone with lvl 24 they had gold armor are they cheating? or was it possible to get more than those 3 last week?
Likely just borrowed one of the Lv. 25 Heroes.
Akos, Justina and Ziping the options
haven't seen one akos in event mode
I had 2 Akos' in my team in the previous Demonbane Realm. They were really good. Joined them randomly, but they were a team i think, cause they were well coordinated.
He's really good for mobbing
Got 10m in less than 6 minutes
I wonder if they're gonna make an achievement out of having multiple level 25 characters considering the drip feeding of those breakthroughs
Yup. I went ahead and got him to 22 since ima farm with him
Still have to finish his dedicated build though
i got sap left to max

went for horizontal energy and cyan fang first and now i don't even play justina and ziping
im hoping they will announce next upcoming heroes for showdown same time as inferno opens 
gimme takeda, shayol and whoever
Ziping gets so much stats from her Skills that it won't make much a difference on her
Kurumi op !!
this week paragon is tanky with timer set to 6 min..
Yeah they're making it tight
temmy lvl 21 is required / max bow build
funny thing, i was tanking with justina lotus mark and boss become smart avoiding my defuses... and going for my 2 bow guys
that happpend 7 out of 10 run s
Smart AI
yea they need to tone that down... even bough was doing smart thing to hold check blue or hold his attack after my defuse is over
damn ai so smart even hackers can't beat it
or spinning around twice in a row 
still need?
Can anyone help me out on demonbane finishing SS rated games?
That means justina curio with 1000% ice blast dmg and no iceblast cooldown coming
A guy in CN did it for 1 min 6 secs
Justina thunder mark lotus
Lol she already has that with Thunder Mark

@fierce light should I build thunder mark lotus?
I can't play this game without a specific goal or I wait?
I'd say just wait a couple weeks for the Curio Previews
Not sure what the Curio for Mark will do or if Justina will get one that conflicts
Okay if u say so
Wait 3-4 weeks.. inferno is around and CN will cook something new
Yea SEA pc top 1 1:37 same lotus mark build
How long is the 2nd phase btw
It was crazy
Ends in March mid
I have 80% build complete but boss being too smart about my defuse.. always going my 2 range guys
I need that badge before season ends 
Also, tarka so funky with sap mastery lol
Not fitting animation takes way too long
Guys can we turn off the other skill effect? I'm having a hard time with bow effect and sound 🥲
Sadly no, there's a setting to reduce them, but not sure what exactly it does
this is in easy battle ?
yes
Someone kind enough to do the quest w me ? XD i cant do it im going crazy i've been at it for the past 20 mission
I stand corrected, it can solo peak, but I don't think so with trash attributes. https://youtu.be/xjwLVdKZwaU?si=hBYovISLh2MbE1IQ
Với update gần đây 04/12, thì bảng ngọc cung được hưởng lợi khá lớn là đã có thể lắp thêm 1 viên ngọc vào ô của ô ngọc vũ khí cung.
Trong video thì mình cũng sử dụng Ngọc Linh Lung (Cáo), được nâng tới cấp 24 và sẽ 25 ngày khi có thể :3
Cầm bộ cung solo có lẽ ngán nh...
and not average player 
lol actually nevermind
i didn't know you can kill em like that
The arrow clipping on the mobs was the best part lol
wonder if we are gonna get ranged curio this time
for the first time ever i have less than 2x frags to crystals 
this is what you get from slacking i guess
what build did u make?
nothing, ive just not played nirriti's enough 
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