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Wow. This is really good QoL
Weapon jades finally have their own slots. This is so nice finally.
I wonder if Cyan Fang and Sap will count as weapon modifications
The time gate on leveling kind of sucks
I'll have to prioritize my Ziping to be able to continue soloing content. Maaaan I wanted to have fun with my Matari
naaah zippy and justina max asap, can't go wrong with those 2
Cyan Fang is in the preview, not sure if sap is
see rest of heroes later
Ah yeah Zipping. Very comfy for Peak farming
Temulch ? 
Yeah, I'm probably going to max Zippy and next season I need to focus on getting double rares on her Lotus build
If you're doing Temmy you might as well do Tessa
Bow
eww, i played him last season with bow and im never touching him again 
Got it
God tier
i like temulch in BR alot more
SSS tier
I appreciate the enthusiasm for our wolf king
But he's worse than Tessa unfortunately if you're going bow build
Just wait for his curio then everyone will realize 
We'll see if he gets it before Naraka is shelved
Me hoping for Retro Bazaar
Retro Bazaar tickets haven't expired and they can't be disposed
So I'm praying that's a sign they'll bring back everything
temulch is still waiting for his extreme.. maybe then he will get curio after that 
Yeah will have to see who is getting Curios 2 patches after

give yueshan new curio 
Feria curio
She will summon 3 mech and all members can get into their mech and then they merge into megazord and instant win

Anything for Tianhai
?
He's probably getting a Curio
Ngl I know it would suck but I really want to make a Zai poison build
I like my aesthetic
just use the new purple jade skin to make ice build fit the outfit color 
u can, it doesn't have to work. Tell me it's aesthetic
ZAIIII

Really depends on how well she can spam her Aegis-break/Defuses
Rage/DMG +10%
We‘ll have to see how good it actually works in a real match and with good ping but basically she can spam her ult once she got it just defuse anything to reset soul status and instantly burn the enemies again for 100% rage recovery
Ah they actually gave someone infinite ult intentionally
Don’t know however how good her regular aegis break spam is it seems higher mid - lower high tier to me
Same setup could kinda work with ice and chain crush aswell, her F also resets on every defuse in ultimate
And the mastery jade gives 4 additional Effects (my 1st thoughts were either additional stats 2 regular + 2 windfall or some crazy shi like 4 Mods on the Mastery and Windfalls all other the other jades (if this is possible)
The closer she can spam Aegis-break every 1.5s, the better she'd be on Poison. There's also how flexible it is against interruptions.
Double rare builds just got even more expensive
You can have as many of a rare attribute you want, although the cost outweighs the benefit once you pass 2 on a Souljade.
I see
is there ever a point in going more than 4 moderation?
I’m 2/4 on my justina I’m curious if it’s additive or
how bad the diminishing returns would be to go for more than four
no
Thanks
Can't reduce something by more than 100%, so nope.
Are they limited or something? To get to lvl 25?
Weekly gated
Ahh. Ty
atleast they aren't RNG 
She has good defuse. Not sure about aegis break.. burn build would be BiS for her.. as she gets rage % back on burn dmg dealt in ult
Yeah idk how good her ult is compared to her base form either
Ik she'd want burn though
She can spam defuse in ult and get invincible for like 2 sec and spam her special charge attk which stack 6 burn debuff
Her defuse is fun.. kind of like tarka just charge and defuse no need to press anything to do defuse attack
Sorry, so when we will have Zai in showdown ? Thank you
Anyone tryna do paragon 6
should be next week, weekly update 26-27th
unless it gets delayed for some reason
they've had alot of delays past few days (first sect thing and just now they delayed alchemy for rift mode)
Thank you so much !
Bro that date already gone
It would be next reset 3/4 dec based on time zone
Upcoming patch would be on <t:1764820800:F>.
the winter made him forget the flow of time

Since they're raising the level cap, will excess souls have any way to be burnt after 20? I have more than double the amount needed to get any new character to level 20 immediately, collecting dust in my inventory
Cant find any match
You gonna have to use them to increase the lvl together with those breakthrough points 1 per lvl
oh wow, i don't know what i was thinking 
how can he do that
not just using expired curio, but in nirriti 
ah nvm long sword has red tomb thingy
been ages
i have 700 nirriti match and never see that thing once
its too rare, you need to get this
is that even possible to get anymore?
i haven't gotten useless rock in like 2 seasons
i mean i guess it's possible since the guy has it in the video but damn
it used to be way common?
same, 2 seasons
yes it definitely was more common earlier seasons
i used to get it all the time during 2.5 season to the point it was pissing me off 
there was also that gambit or something? currency secret, only ever saw it once but i guess they removed it now
yeah there was gambit, don't remember what itt did thought or if it was removed
haven't looked at nirriti collection in ages
so you cant max secret collection anymore ? i only missing the rock thing,divine army from the sky,Gambit,inferno hero
rock turns into inferno hero, divine army is the secret one from nighscream/legend cave, dont remember where to get gambit
if they are in collection page you can get them for sure
cant even get the rock once and atomize too
atomize just get bunch of hydro cards and you'll get it
alright
Yeah that's likely the reason they locked it behind another resource. You'll still use the souls to level.
there used to be info about all secret cards in pinned messages but it has been un-pinned i see
oh it's still there nvm im just blind
and it wasn't really info haha just all the secret cards (in 2024)
i didn't even realize until just now that i no longer get useless rock and gambit. they were both so common before 
just make sure you are using one of the weapons that has red tomb, long sword, dual blades, greatsword etc.
Have to be using Viper, Tarka, Temulch or Matari for it to appear.
i play fair amount of tarka because justina gets so boring 
I just use Akos. Going to rotate between him and Zai when she's out
i hate playing akos, i fail dodge charge so much

and i hate my outfit for him. and i don't like fistblades either



can someone help me?
i was playing enigma peak, my question is why i got no damage,while the other 2 player give so much damage ?
Do you have a near complete build or just random SJ you put together?
using this currently
Do you have Ice Blast DMG on every Souljade? Ice build scales heavily from its attributes.
yes..i do have at all SJ,average % between 19% until 23.7%
Which hero did you use? Attack is pretty important as well, [Moderation] 100% will allow you to use your Skill every 4s for Chill Spike.
ziping yin, i know i need to upgrade more on the [moderation]..it just i ran out SJ fragment.
How is 1 damage even possible
You using her Razor Swift attack? It does a lot of damage.
i did,but when i played in enigma domain,pple called me noob coz i got no damage..hahahaha
No idea honestly, the bossers usually would get more damage off than the mobber.
sounds like ur build is bad
get those stats up
and 100% mod
my ziping has same build and my souljade rating is 38k and it's not even 100% maxed, urs is 26k
It's obvious ain't it u don't have maxed build but the others have
well don't mind anyone and just play ig
coz if they care so much they should just do it 3 party
You got right potential?

Hmm the new Souljade slot is coming without any increase in drops. So now we gonna have a character and build specific Souljade we're going to have work on for each character.
new mode is gonna have increase in drops, no?
It just mentions they'll have the same drop rates or something
hmm, i thought i read that the new mode will have increase in drops, but maybe it was something else that was increased then or just bad translation
gonna lose maxed poison arrow jade and need more rares for every build i have after the update
It'll convert to a mastery jade, won't lose it
It'll be easier to hit those 4 rare thresholds with the extra slot, but that's more windfalls to stress over.

When Zai come?
4th I think
Ty
Dec 3 like in the post
December 4


i have no idea... should I get excited of zai coming to showdown or not? 
Level 25 will allow us to farm faster. Also weapon jades will be usable are the two main things I'm hype for.
if you want to use zai's skins

this is the way 


i just love that this is not a game that has female characters as majority

wwm?
Yep
ah i have yet to try it out 
I wasted a lot of time taking photos 
as one should when theres hot men 
There's plenty of them there 
Character creation top models be like some goofy ass chars
Yoda
SpongeBob

who did u make? 
Bet michael jackson 
yoda
show 
maybe u're the one with the michael jackson 
Bruh not having pc rn
later then lmao
If michael jackson is Chinese looking dude 

yoooooo
dude 
I'll change it
the game looks goofy af with this
dont 
Whats best build for yushan to Deal Hella DMG
gotta teleport back to season 2.5 for that
Oh lol 
Is that for gambit too
Gambit is just random
Hey, can someone explain to me how to use the build
For the current souljades on Kurumi ?
Which build are you talking bout?
There you go
To be honest that build doesn't work well with Kurumi
Felt like it 
If you read Element surge and Chill spike
Its make it where you proc your Ice (Elemental) Blast by using your skill with a 4 sec CD.
Considering hers is that tether even with breaking it you don't get it back quick with Moderation ( which this build you should have atleast 75% imo for it to work well)
I think only builds that would "work" with her decently are Scorch Surge or Ice Lotus.
Until Curios are back she isn't in the best spot currently for damage output, even though her ultimate/skill combined give I think 60% Attack increase and a decent heal within that radius.
So the previous build
If your 100% dead set are using her then yes but I would just say play Ziping on Ice lotus or Ice Surge and you will be 1000% better off and still be able to heal your team way better as well with there being no range to her ultimate.
Kurumi and Yoto are really only 2 characters right now that are kinda useless to play until Curios are here. Then they become top 5 characters to play, especially Yoto.
Even Feria and Yueshan have good enough skills were you could use Ice surge.
Well currently I am just playing solo since everyone is away or just not playing the game anymore 
Just trying to do Yama Abyss solo
Yeah, Ziping is better than Kurumi is nearly every way. Kurumi just has the stronger team buffs.
thanks
This build:
You can replace Incineration with Sap as well to be a lot more comfortable.
Oh wow they added 3 extra optional bosses to Enigma Topaz
Consumes 5 extra fatigue per one defeated. So you can spend 45 Fatigue in a run
I think that'll make it more efficient for Legendary Rune Keys than Enigma Peak
For the coming update?
Yes.
Ooo
Interesting
My DT Lotus Matari Clears fast, mebbe I should try greeding in Topaz next patch
Least you can slot your Abyssal Aura without nerfing your build now
what would be the best way to get fire forge level on nirriti? im level 8 but want to beat nightscream but its lv18 recommended
should i just always click the book icon when picking rings
Rings don’t have anything to do with your Forge level, its 1. Stages finished, 2. Bosses beaten and 3. Fatigue used
So just spam through Normal / Hard on Solo until it’s high enough
oh! okay tysm
so picking those books only increases that ring collection achievment's progress then?
I actually was going to do Assassin's Lunge
I like what they did with Matari update where they replace Yurong's Rage with Abyssal Aura.
I don't carry Abyssal anymore since it's basekit now
Except for the boomerang part, but honestly I don't mind not having the repeating attack
Yeah collection gives other bonuses.
It's funny, they're buffing it, but it's still going to be rather weak
Especially in comparison to her Aegis-break after Lv. 21
Wait, they're buffing the Abyssal Aura SJ?
Good i still have those jades for back in the days
Assassin's Lunge is getting a buff
Around 20% more base dmg/accumulation. Aegis-break is getting around the same increase at Lv. 21 (if the bonus is additive to Defuse Prowess).
That's amazing, I actually struggled with the default dodge attack on dagger, the fact I can use it interchangably with Aegis Break OR after a Flash empowered Aegis Break is super nice
I don't think Assassin's Lunge works from Dancing Leaves
You have to be grounded for it, which her Skill puts you airborne to use Dancing Leaves right away
I meant
Right now when I use Flash into Dancing Leaves I have just a tiny bit of accumulation left that forces me to use Dreadful Wail or Abyssal or the Dodge Followup
With this change and a thunder wielding lunge, I should be able to reliably proc
With my playstayle
Curious if the Aegis-break buff will make Fan-Wuchen viable.
His weapon jades oddly enough are a downgrade from his base attacks. Longer animations for slightly more damage which makes it take longer to spam his Aegis-break.
Can confirm, the bonus Aegis-break DMG is additive with Defuse Prowess. So it ends up being x3.85 damage total.

kinda late but she will come with whipsword and crossbow.

anyone wanna join for topaz enigma domain on sea? #🐲┃showdown-lfg message
i have literally never seen anyone in the game use them so i guess it makes sense they were underwhelming and got buffed
i tried poison defuse for matari one or two topaz games, but didn't have right stats in them so gave up on them pretty quick
SEA and CN top 1 Justina using skill spam build
Beating ice surge and scorch by very good margin
Thunder skill spam lotus version is best rn in yama
oh nice, i haven't checked leaderboards since launch of WWM
After paragon 5 those thunder build came into picture
Latest is that deer and huanyue
eww
Makes sense, but still requires the ability to rapidly do 180 turns consecutively and tracking the boss.
Lol how many charges will Akos get?
Would be nice if they made the mastery jades apply in Nirriti's Ruins.
yeah, QoL is happening to everything outside of Nirritis
they are insanely fast with low ping high fps
with new buff it is even more viable now
just 2 defuse marking is active if i saw correctly.. can retest tomorrow
Oh it's only 2? Thought it would be 3.
Matari build going to feel really good then.
I will check again
But feel like 2
guys i keep seeing stuff about getting specific heros to lvl 22 and lack of materials, are they resetting the hero levels to 0 even for players that have all the existing ones maxed already or did i misunderstand?
+1
no they are not resetting hero levels to 0
to get lvls 21,22,23,24,25 you need to breakthrough and that uses new material
you use old leveling material to get xp bar full, then use the new material to break the level
you can only get 1 new material per week (and from events)
so 1 level per week
Hmmm zai or kurumi to 25 first
justina and zippy 
thank u <3
oooh okie thanks for info
Lv. 21: Character-specific Buff
-# +10% Rage/DMG, +75% Martial Skill DMG, +40% Rage/s, +10% Burn DMG, etc
Lv. 22: Legendary Melee Weapon
-# ~14% increase in damage while carrying Melee Weapon.
Lv. 23: Legendary Ranged Weapon
-# ~14% increase in damage while carrying Ranged Weapon.
Lv. 24: Legendary Armor
-# +250 Armor
Lv. 25: Elemental Burst DMG Buff
-# +15% Elemental DMG for 16s after an Elemental Burst.
Lv. 22 is important since it increases that hero's damage by ~14% for all Melee attacks. Lv. 23 if you're using a Ranged build.
Every level past 20 consumes a time-gated resource, so generally not recommended to go to 25 until you've at least gotten all of your main heroes to 22 (or 23).
huh we're actually getting interesting updates this time around, paired with the move mastery souljade slot
Enigma Topaz getting a buff, so won't need a decked out team to farm outside of Ruins anymore
I'm curious if they're only rebalancing Assassin's Lunge. Some of the Weapon Jades are a bit underwhelming still, like Tarka's and Akos's.
when update?
in 2 day
<t:1764802800:F>




When have you needed a decked out team for Topaz? Topaz is pretty darn easy, its really the strategy that makes it difficult for people.
For Enigma Peak
im at 2400/2400 fatigue w/ 0% rewards rn,
best thing i can do rn is nirriti right? to level up that forge thing
or take a break lmao
are u bot
what
this
beep boop, am bot
Yeah you can still level your fire forge. The ones that don't require burning fatigue at least.
thanks

haven't touched showdown for 3 months now
damn its been that long since i left?
Maybe when u left september right
u could have farmed a bit every week since this season is catch up season
i would if it wasnt boring asf
nirriti sucked the fun out of game
Feel like this is worse, I was hoping for increase in the difficulty scale. Not really anything challenging for players with Complete builds outside of later paragons I guess.
Enigma Peak Normal ( should be the new one ) Hard ( Current) and we need a Nightscream for an actual challenge in my opinion.
Challenge seems to be put into Yama's now. Nirritis and Enigma have been converted to farming zones
Homogenization and whatever

ol
Yama's Abyss's difficulty is already ramping up.
Ah, you need 2 of the item to get to level 25.
Looks like they buffed the effect though, increases your Attack instead of Elemental Burst DMG.
Lv. 21 Buffs:
Buff souljade old
gotta make zai stronk
Ah nice, they made the Defuse burns less reliant on HydroFlare. Still not enough though since the Potential gives higher multipliers.
Skyfire was in volcano
Omg, they gave Akos the Aegis-break buff, he's going to be hitting crazy hard
Definitely getting him to 22 first.
We do get the level material from the event:
probably from all future showdown events
they will replace some real reward like treasure choices with this new material

Ruins got a small update 
Curious how much we'll get weekly. I'm hoping at least 2.

Can anyone help with paragon 4 on eu?
I can
perfect
But not now
I send
Kk
When are u able
I will be available at 6pm probably
Which boss was in paragon 4 btw?
What timezone are u
Cool
You should probably look for one more
Full lobby makes the boss have more health compared to solo
Hey, so what's the point of showdown mode? What should my goal be? Just playing Yama and Narriti? Or is there more?
top 1 rank in leaderboards 
😆 yeah right, thatll happen, sorry im a filthy casual...
This is super exciting.
I am actually hype for Ziping and Kurumi. Super supports here we come!
curios soon. and from new lvl more rage/dmg for kylin yay, gonna have one more jade for rage/dmg too
Nirriti's Ruins is just the primary grind right now. It's pretty new player friendly since it doesn't rely on gear. First goal should be to do all the seasonal challenges from there.
Yama's Abyss is the end-game when you're built enough you can try to compete on the leaderboards. Doom Speedrun also has a leaderboard, but since the rewards are weekly instead of seasonal/permanent, it's not taken as seriously.
Lol they got the least changed tbh. Ziping doesn't even have a favorable mastery jade atm.
Just throw Cyan Fang so you have an option after Razor Swift if you don't want to charge/loop again
I just like having the Ulti Basically on demand now.
Brute forcing has never been so easy
Curios you'll basically give team perma healing
Rage/s is pretty bad. Even with +60%, it just makes her ult passively charge in ~3.5 minutes instead of 5.3 minutes. You get a lot more rage from dealing damage.
Hmm good point, didn't realize Razor Swift goes right into Cyan Fang.
Feels pretty good actually. Not sure how damage calculators are but the animation is easier to work with and the healing is nice to have
I don't think you'd ever want to do the 1-2-3 combo, but can use it as an extender.
That's a good point
Extender for when Mod timing is just slightly off
Just getting the 1st two ticks of Razor Swift off makes it worth over every other option iirc.
that way you are constantly spinning to win, either using Razor Swift or coming out out Razor Swift with Cyan Fang's 3 spin.
Into another F then go
Wheeeeeeeeee
Am excited for this update.
My new fastest pre Lv. 25:
wow
this guy is apparently hacking still didn't get banned. is it ok to hack now?
alot of cheaters sadly
that guy is actually bringing awareness to the problem by being so blatant about it
good guy 
They have ignored cheat police + turned comments off from the posts so what do u expect lmfao
Just discussed this on feedback, and as you check reports and how those have been handled, it’s been pretty quiet
So this new slot is for those weilding jades?
oh great 90 fatigue
It's here alr?

server's up 
@fierce light isnt it you suggested something similar?
Also, weird time for these jades buff ngl
Not sure how long it takes them to register feedback, especially from English
About time
Im this close to dismantle them all
Skyfire changes are pointless as long as it still doesn't work with HydroFlare. Potential favors HydroFlare a lot more than Burn.

It doesnt? Weird, it works in nirriti right
Yeah, it's actually somewhat decent in there.
Valda Curio is definitely going to be meta
Zai maybe if she gets one, but I doubt it with her release so soon
valda and zai's blazing cyclone 
Thunder Scorch feels so good with Sap. 😌
New mission is surprisingly long
Oh 90 fatigue, no wonder.
6 minute run as a duo for 90 fatigue aint bad tho
Burn meta bcoz of zai.. can't say about curio though
I got 6 crystals.
That build is too rng
Likely bad for crystals again, but can burn fatigue quick
Sap will be a must? or depends on each hero
Not necessarily a must
But some heroes have significantly faster counterstrikes with Sap (Kylin, Kurumi, Feria, etc). Also they only hit once, so it's easy to chain thunder.
Why don't they buff crystal rates apart from nirriti
I can sneak "blessed" souljade in my bow build 
Yeah, very easy to make a Luck Bow build now
Diminishing Returns from all that Attack anyway
Get lucky break as well
Weird, I'm not regening ammo on Bow. You have to be in combat or something? Feels inconsistent.
yeah me too I wasn't regenerating ammos in the new mode
yeah no one will notice anyway 
I feel like tarka's sap is a little bit slower compared to the no-sap version
also don't forget to get the luck buff in the fairyland
Yeah, it's not a must on every character. Tarka and Tessa already have the fastest counterstrike in Showdown atm.
Where is it?
there are 6 ether doors in fairyland and this one give luck in survival and showdown
Ah, Zai's Ultimate doesn't consider the damage from Hydroflare.
Idk if it’s a bug but for the event you don’t have to compete the mission just defuse until ss then leave it still counts

You guys have build for Zai?
oh my god who is that cutie on ur pfp?
What’s the method on getting rare traits how do y’all have so many
kim taejoon from can't get enough of you 
he's too hot 
thank you 
fr fr. added to my to read list 
Her kit have burn but the is no souljade for it beside SkyFire
the Whipsword mastery also apply burn
🥲
🛐
I'd just wait for Curios before making any new builds tbh
lemme see ur wwm character dude 
Zai's Counterstrike range is insane and it's fast.
only 1 extra level per week and only 2 from the event? fun
Yeah 1 per week is a bit more restrictive than I was expecting
yea
5 week to full lv up
also these will have to go to justina first ofc and then zai 😢
yea it will not.. it purely on burn that is why those burn jades got buffed
atleast they should give us 2 per week
damn.. so I have to log in for 5 weeks? 
Honestly prefer her outside her ult
play 10 Game tbf
Gonna stick to my original strat, Akos to 22. Going to hold off till Curio previews after.

Here 
I don wanna lose my f2p card yet

You can't p2w in WWM so f2p tag don't matter so much
i lost it since I hit lvl50
and went straight for bp outfits 
actually this 
those outfits sell in shop are pretty decent
Kylin would be so busted in this mission if they didn't reset rage every 2 bosses.
I'm so tempted to buy it lol I like the outfit and hairstyle
saving up coupons till u reach 50% then go for it 
actually those npc-like outfits with 60 pearls are all looking good 
It goes in the mastery slot
@fierce light does sap good with kylin thunder build ? trading 50%+ damage (not in ult) for survivability and faster counterstrike
and if i confident in my skill what jade should i use to replace sap with
Sap is a Mastery Jade now
Doesn't take the slot of a regular jade
Shouldn't be a need to replace/change anything
for justina what do you guys think would be priority for the mastery jade of the ice build?
Horizontal Energy is her strongest option
so there no alternate Mastery jade that provide more damage or rage to replace its ?
- Vertical Energy hits weaker than Horizontal Energy.
- Cyan Fang requires you to 1-2-3, which isn't favorable on Justina.
- Sap is mainly decent if you're spamming parries, which you won't on Justina with Ice build. Longsword has a slightly longer animation with Sap as well.
thankl
where do you get horizontal energy from..? cant find it
i saw it in chasm undertow special reward list
thanks for already pushing this out so quickly
yeah damn
i think description updated.
not sure abt cap before
ahh yeah
Likely added it to account for higher stat cap
Total dmg inc is minimal due to diminishing return anyway
Does wielding matter on mastery jades?
Or better does the accumulation effect work just not the wieleing
finally the weapon jades came in use, even if subtle for some heroes
Wielding on mastery jade will change the jade effect but will not contribute anything to elem accumulation
i thought soul drawing would become obsolete, ffs i hate that kylin ult isn't a counter attack
Does it matter increasing the Mastery Jade stats ? Or it only take the effect
sub-stats. yes
sub stat boost would be good
Oki so it like a 7th jade
what is the best thing to use fatigue on rn?
for the most value to reroll as much as possible
enigma peak..?
Enigma Peak for first 600.. we get weekend reward 150% buff too. So might want to save some fatigue for that
i spam counter and some how it work
probably better hero for SS is hero that can do multiple defuses in a row

need SS for this 
can I ask what elemental arrows is for justina bow here? I can't find the souljade, I only see heartbreak arrows & fire arrows
What's that crystal
need it for every level past 20
currently u can get to lv 23 max
then next week maybe 24 or 25 on one character
heartbreak arrows
Ah, thanks
Then their must be sss rating also ?
you have to change the element wielding to change the element of the arrows
I think so 
wait so I won't want poison on it anymore? I thought anything in the new slot ignores element type
ohh main attribute
ty
just realized my horizontal energy on ice build was poison wielding lmaoo
we cooking now
why justina
aight
Crap people dont know you need to defuse lol
real
Zai you can just defuse repeatedly lol
Ziping has easiest defuse
Wuchen maybe aswell?
just tried triple justina, it sucks.
and people don't even wait when last boss is low to raise rating they just kill immedietely
aurora burst moment
let me see what build my friend used, i think its the one on the site

oof another mode where real ingame LFG would be nice then?
it kinda double sucks in naraka if people don't know what to do because not only do you lose your time but also fatigue (or gold keys/elixir in peak) 
i've noticed the same in rift and ranked, idk why they use tianhai
it's the most blatant cheaters too
flying in the air with tianhai
maybe there is some dirt cheap cheat just for tianhai to use that they buy
who are good characters to build now btw? I have justina as my main aegis break/aoe, what would be a solid second thing to work on
ziping yin
can't go wrong with her
what does ziping specialize in?
main things she does that justina doesnt*
rn i can only beat the ice enigma peak,
indeed, but at least it doesn't feel as bad as other modes, inferno low lvls / soloing boss or enigma no gold keys.
her main thing is that she shares same build as justina
😄
ooh
she can every content in the game
like justina
if someone picks justina you go ziping
she buffs team and heals while doing good damage
best hero for new players
if u want aegis break play viper ning in a month when she gets her curio back
oh i meant my
justina is already built
so what would be another thing I should start building that fills a different role
like single target high dps for bosses etc
i guess that's musket ts valda
i guess there's no lvl req?
Ss alot harder with little defuses
Yea just try to achieve once, no need to maintain ss
Wuchen has the easiest defuse and fastest
Nope there is not lvl required
You are not doing dmg from element i.e. thunder dmg... instead you are doing burn dmg by countering thunder
So 0 thunder wield means you build thundersock on yourself faster
Yeah.. if it wouldn't fill fast you can't counter thunder faster
So bossing would be delayed
That is fine
Potential is based on hydroflare and burn dmg
I don't think it would matter but not sure
All you have to do is all 3 of you stick in the counter for Scorch when he goes in the middle. Simple as that
Wait you dont have to finish the match with SS?
Nope
it reduces thundershock by 25%
and you still want to keep it even if you are able to counter
it is not
if you have 4 scorching then this jade is useless
it will not fill thundershock faster if you remove thunderproof
nope you can benefit from sap
Is there a way to get a 4th breakthrough aura? I’ve seen some ppl with yellow armor yet it seems like we can only obtain 3 atm
where have u seen ? in this weeks it isn't possible
if you are using thunder scorch build sap would be more useful than this jade
yes general sap
That would make sense thank you
how hard is the challenge mode in demonbane
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do you guys have any idea about how to build soul jade for Zai?
I made most of the list before the update, so didn't know the exact names
np! assumed it was a translation thing lmao
Thunder Scorch Surge is probably her best option.
Kylin has a bug at level 21 buff ?
What bug?
Hmm, maybe it's multiplicative
nothing changed, still only 11% increase per parry
did weekly quests reset again?
huh
i crafted curios and stuff yesterday after reset and they are all undone again
Yeah, probably for the new weekly material
Good to know, definitely going to hold off on leveling Kylin then.
Is there any other way to get breakthrough aura besides doing weekly quests and events?
Nope, it's a very limited resource, so should spend it wisely.
Personally going to wait till Curios come out to spend anymore, cause no idea how the meta is going to shift.
but i saw a friend who reached lvl 24
gonna wait to see curios before i build something for zai 
hm don't think that's possible
I played the same match with him
They had gold armor?
justina gu with that gold armor
yeah i had that golden armor too
Probably burrowed
im lvl 20
I still got Akos to 22 just to farm faster
Sad they nerfed him to 10% Rage/DMG instead of 75% Martial Skill DMG.
played the new challenger mode with some xbox player who had feria and he was doing hella dmg
Waiting for zai came around at wrong time as her normal build prefer burn jade but who knows curio build 
almost kept up in dmg with my justina idk if i played really bad or feria buff or he just too good player

yeah, i can feel that pain
oof
Feria has some nice Mastery Jades
okay that explains it a bit then
Sap makes her Counterstrike bareable for Thunder Scorch. Velocity Untold is great for spamming on Elemental Builds.
hm also does the SS rating actually give something in bonus rewards or u just need to for event missions?
so it's not too big deal if SS is not reached then
There is reward based on that?
Event quest wants you to reach it 10 times
Were doing defuses more?
in normal some genius always bursts him down before u can parry
i mean always.. - i played one normal game

There are genius in challenge mode in SEA
That's tough
What is there this week paragon 8?
Frog lady
It has buff but like extra Damage and stuff.
she no lady, she b word 

Ngl I’m liking that zai can chain defuse
It feels really good
Anyone got a build for her yet?
Probably Renewed Vigor, since you self-heal in Deadeye and Backfire damages you. This is actually an even bigger buff for Bow Deadeye.
I love the new changes

Cyan Fang on Ziping is super nice as an extender.
Assassin's Lunge makes my DT Lotus Matari have that last bit of accumulation after a Flash + Dancing Leave spam.
Sap on Kylin absolutely demolishes
Probably Sap on Kurumi as well...but for memes I'm surprised that Advanced Healing Crossbow wasn't added to theMastery Jades
It's an oddity
They made that a commemorative jade.
Unless they make it have some kind of bonus in deadeye, don't see a point in that one.
You can do more of a hybrid of the 2 bow builds now. Using Desperation in the new free slot.
I did some testing on Thundershock filling rate at different wieldings. It can take 30-40% longer to charge Thundershock with 0-1 Thunder-Wielding.
oh right desperation
The point is to send a message that you will Heal people to death
Alright, got the damage numbers of all the new stuff, aside from Zai's burns.
It looks like the new Uppercut Jades are quite nice for Elemental builds.
how did he get gold armor so early ?
Borrowed hero
Zai feels really nice
oh
I wish the double drops event started on reset instead of the next day.
for people who want to farm all 2400 fatigue it just wastes a day
for us slackers its whatever 
then you can't use double drops today
Can't get any drops at max fatigue lol
Ideally want to stay within 150% rewards as well
Damn I got 2:02 with Akos in Paragon 8. Definitely a powerhouse.
how to get SS rating on the new mode?
It seems pretty easy if you get three well equipped ppl
defuse and parry boss
Showdown Comprehensive Guide
Finished up the table for preferred Masteries.
-# For Temulch and Yoto Hime's Thunder Scorch builds, you can slot in Aerial Rend as well, if you prefer faster charging of Thundershock than faster Counterstrikes.
so for level 21-25 you need to get XP like usual then use the new item to upgrade once you hit the next ?
with the new event, all i i have to complete is get SS rating once per match ?
Can be hard to do if your team does too much damage or gets hit too much, but yeah that's it.
also with new masery souljade can i imbue rare attribute ?
Yup. Builds just got more powerful, but more expensive to make.
can we get ice dmg on that new souljade
oh yeah i checked
like a nornal souljade
I just checked, double Windwall + Ice Dmg + Attack works on new souljade
buff from 390 to 455% ice dmg total
sadly, new mode is only playable solo, can't maintain SS rank with random people
but with maxed out build it's not hard to beat it solo
nice
im gonna work on that new souljade
Kylin goes kinda hard in the new mission.
I'm not doing any recasting or leveling anyone else up past 20 till Curios come out.
how do you keep the SS rank? Is the ziping yin is defuse botting? 
bruhhhhh
breakthroughhh
need
like
5 souljade per character
i thought i need 1
Looks fun again
boss im tired of parrying
Yeah, you need 2 for 24 → 25
Should use them very carefully as we'll only get 1 per week.
theyyyyyy scammedddddd me
they want me focus on 1 character
i use ice element surge
can kylin use those ?
Use what?
Master jades are fun ad fk
Ice Surge? He can a bit better now with a Mastery Jade.
People are doing crazy damage with valda
ice surger yes
Valda got really comfortable with that +80% soak duration
Plus extra souljade slot for damage.
wow
how
man just 1 update and i really lost
Valda was already doing heavy damage with her dedicated build
This was last season.
@fierce light did you get to test which mastery is the best for justina?
Yeah, it's on the table
Horizontal Energy
She has one of the weaker ones. Not that she needs a strong one.
Iirc even viper scales higher on Tsurge
@fierce light sap is really the most optimal mastery on kylin no?
and kurumi
Vertical Energy hits weaker by about 6%. You can use it ofc if you prefer it.
Yeah the gains are huge, unless you're really good already at hitting Musket Counterstrikes.
Desperation (more damage, requires low health) | Shattered Edge (less damage, but always active with Bow).
ok

Viper can use:
- Horizontal Energy
- Vertical Energy
- Cyan Fang
- Sap
Horizontal/Vertical Energy allow her to proc Ice Blast in one Charged Attack.
Stage 2 Charged Attack → Skill
Cyan Fang allows you to proc it in one Uncharged Attack Chain and can be spammed repeatedly afterwards, but it can be quite unsafe.
Skill → Horizontal → Vertical → Cyan Fang
Sap is generally not recommended for Longsword since it makes the Counterstrike longer and deal slightly less damage.
What the best way to get flux Jade shards ??
Recast random jades you don't want till a rare appears then deconstruct them.
Thank you
Game keeps putting a red dot on my Legend Jades, I am not touching them
make scaling insanely good like DNA
They pretty much did aside from that catch up achievement.
I wonder if Temulch's Lv. 21 is a bug
I think it might be worth getting some Moderation for Bow build now
Btw can u destroy mastery jades?
i wanna recast rare on random jade and destroy it for legend jade shards 
I think so.
Or at least let us combine like 4 into a Legend Jade
Please try
Considering it takes 2 to imbue a 2nd rare, needing an extra 4 would equal 3 tries, which should be the average
Due to the ratio of gold jades to mastery it should be dismantled
i've got 2k+ shards, 5 flux jades and missing 1 rare from ice surge build. i have 0 interest to use any of my materials for that last WF
i know im gonna get scorching atleast 3 times
HOW??
It has been like a season ago
how what 
I thought everyone would have it maxed out now
got no reason to max it 
don't wanna use tons of materials for it
even without last WF it works 
Brooooo 
yeah it's my main build until inferno opens up again and i swap to kylin

So stupid
What's the team rating?
Lol just parry, it'll do the rest automatically
Does it build up every hit/parry
Parries, Defuses and Dodges build it up. Seems to decay over time though.
We need that in Nirriti's Ruins
One of the main things I loved about Illusive Realm
I think that was even part of my suggestion
I think it's cool playing proactively gets rewarded and it's a team buff
Enigma Domain is boosted this week.
LFG [NA] - Enigma Topaz • 3 Gold Keys
topaz? 
More efficient on Keys and Elixirs.
damn that's sick
Took forever to upload
Cool shi
Ah you can gift gold now?
Not sure, just says gift record and you can see who sent and received gifts.
Have to lvl up to 24 for gold range weapon 
Any one know if the damage increase is worth it?
yeah you can send 60k gold and get aura

if anyone wants that aura, dm me
i can take that gold np

Should be 23
I checked Wu Chen and Tianhai earlier. I swore it said 24.
Ah I forgot to account for the base attack we get from our Showdown Level. It looks like it's around a 5.4% increase.
so what combos do i use when "f" is on cooldown with justina?
don't even know how trio topaz works
isn't the % you get from mobbing different there than peak
They equalized them a while back
or that's just solo topaz thing?
when they f'd up the spawns.
Solo gets a bit more
You stop at 67-91% and kill 3-4 bosses in a row.
Is scorching capped at 12 or is that just something we all did cuz it was what everyone else did
I have 15 rn and I’m not sure if it’s good or bad
Yeah, the damage caps at 12.
You can recast it until a maxed non-rare attribute appears.
Well doesn't matter since I parted ways with my duos
you can even borrow heroes in topaz
so total noob can do it too
easy battle reward buff is for only 3 games too 👌





