👾┃showdown

[dusty wharf]

like literally

I solo cleared enigma domain

[fierce light]

Yeah sadly, too many don't know how to play it

[dusty wharf]

but in trios I refrained from mobbing

[fierce light]

Probably why they made it so easy.

[dusty wharf]

and we couldn't even kill the 7th boss

@rotund forge did you find 3rd ?

[fierce light]

Yeah, if the mobber doesn't force the boss to move, you can make use of the buffs you get when the enhancement level increases and the Demon Elixirs that the boss drops.

Allowing you to kill the next boss really quick

[fickle linden]

damn it's gonna be nice to mob without lotuses

amount of times lotus randomly popped off on some random archer and put the bar over 74%

[fierce light]

Chill Spike can be kinda annoying cause it kills the mob before you can proc Ice Blast.

[lone umbra]

It is up to mobber to keep an eye on bosser and farming.. not really required coordination just awareness

[dusty wharf]

well then their awareness is also low ig

the randoms I play with mob then all come to boss

and repeat it again and again

[fickle linden]

if bossers havent killed boss before im ready to spawn next boss i go afk lol

[fierce light]

Probably not even aware you can keep the boss spawn still

[fickle linden]

no way im running half the map to help them kill it

[fierce light]

Having to run wastes at least 30s each time it happens

Buffs will be nearly expired by the time you do reach the boss

[lone umbra]

There is nothing wrong with that if mobber is keeping up with spawn

[fickle linden]

bossers kinda lacking if they dont kill boss before 74%

[dusty wharf]

they can't keep up man

[fickle linden]

i mean random stuff happens with bosses like going out of bounds and spawning in middle again and again but still

[dusty wharf]

they waste time traversing from boss spawn to mobs

[fickle linden]

99% games i play bosser we have to wait mobber to spawn a new boss

[dusty wharf]

I say either keep mobbing or bossing

but they jus ignore it

[dusty wharf]

same

[fickle linden]

50% games i play mobber im done before bossers

[lone umbra]

Then u should be doing mobbing

[fickle linden]

thats why i always play mobber cuz others are way slower in it for some reason

[dusty wharf]

I tried tht

[lone umbra]

Then?

[fierce light]

Depends on the mobber tbh. Especially for the later waves when there's stally bosses like Omnius Bough and Void.

[dusty wharf]

they took too much time in killing bosses

we only defeated the 6th boss

[rotund forge]

Hades or tilt whoever is available

[lone umbra]

This could happen only at 6/7 if boss is huanyue or hell scorch

[rotund forge]

[dusty wharf]

bro tht guy isn't even lvl 100

man

[rotund forge]

I mean when we started we were same

[dusty wharf]

wdym ?

[fickle linden]

fair on last waves

but on first 5 levels

anyway if you want good fast runs you want to play as team

doesn't help if either mobber or bosser only is fast

it's a good feeling when you kill a camp and lack few % and bosser kills a camp next to boss to help you out

instead of having to run next camp

[dusty wharf]

yea

but that can only happen in teams

ain't happening in randoms

[fickle linden]

yeah no idea about randoms

never played peak without premade trio

and never will

i guess that's why peak is my fav mode in showdown, there are no randoms and you don't spam 5000 games of it every week

inferno and nirriti you get so burnt out

and no total randoms 🙂

[tranquil palm]

is there a way to skip agnivat ball mech unless youre playing something like tessa. i wonder if i could interrupt with akos ulti, but the problem is that usually i dont have the ulti timing for it

[fierce light]

Break her Aegis during the animation after she teleports or clash with the AoE attack she does with Kylin's Ultimate.

[tranquil palm]

yea but im akosing yamas 🙂 i think the ulti timing might be key, might try swapping one rage/dmg in to hit ulti sooner as my build isnt complete yet

[fierce light]

Well his ult would increase your health damage

Unless you're breaking Aegis too fast, you don't really need it

[tranquil palm]

im not breaking aegis before he goes into animation

[ember hamlet]

hi

[fierce light]

Then you'd probably want to go for more parries and defuse counterattacks

[tranquil palm]

yes i was revisiting my best run and it wasnt as good as i thought 😅👍

[dusty wharf]

still that's 15 games for 45 fati

[rocky oriole]

What's the fastest way to increase fatigue?

fatigue gain to time

[dusty wharf]

nirriti ?

rn

later TI

[rocky oriole]

gotcha o7

my nirriti levels are a bit low, so maybe takes longer for me rn 😔

is there a specific build that helps for speed?

[dusty wharf]

take kylin and elemental rings

thunder blessing

or justina and elemental rings

ice blessing

[rocky oriole]

o7

thanks!

[fierce light]

If you're really well geared, Enigma Topaz, but not recommended to spend your Rune Keys right now cause of Enigma Peak being better for drop rates.

So that leaves mainly Nirriti's Ruins • Hard. There's many viable builds, but the 3 strongest/fastest would probably be:

• Justina Gu - Ice Essence - Element Blessing
• Akos - Thunder Essence - Element + Lotus Blessing
• Tarka Ji - Ice Essence - Ranged + Element Blessing

[ember hamlet]

wow

[north lynx]

And you actually get to use the builds you made

[fickle linden]

elixir 👌

[dusty wharf]

[rotund forge]

Valda thunder also good

In nirriti

[dusty wharf]

how many you got ? @fickle linden

[fierce light]

Yeah I wish Ruins had some more customizable meta progression. Right now it's just play it and get stronger.

[fickle linden]

don't remember 25 or something

[dusty wharf]

tf

how

[fickle linden]

i barely used any last season

hated the peak map

[rotund forge]

[fickle linden]

and i play 90% less showdown than before anyway

im not even 600 fatigue this week yet

since they added whipsword event thing that you need to do pvp game for i only play 1 showdown game per day now

[rotund forge]

Grapple on 8 enemies

[dusty wharf]

bro the 5k dmg with whip one

not tht

dumb

[rotund forge]

What's that

Anything like that exist

Oh fk

I didn't select that shit

[quaint girder]

@fierce light would you be free to help me with Speedrun today? I didn't realize Speedrun unlocked this week

Or anyone else for that matter, just want to clear my Seasonal Quests

[tranquil palm]

i could but im an EU gamer...

[quaint girder]

You can just swap server

[tranquil palm]

well its not like ping affects my ranged tessa at all 🤭

ok IM NA now lets see 😈

[hardy wolf]

People play trios then run off and get killed by a gank and cry 🫠

It’s a team game lol

[tranquil palm]

x

[quaint girder]

My friend helped me clear

I am okay nao ty

[tranquil palm]

okok

[still rivet]

Anyone wanna run around 4 pm NA server 🤷🏽

[quaint girder]

Almost done with my Matari Thunder Lotus build

[rocky oriole]

:o

[quaint girder]

Just need to finish BP then I get the last Flux Jade to change my last scorching into WF

[fierce light]

Yeah, probably this evening again

[quaint girder]

Is oki, I got it already

[fierce light]

Nice

[balmy coral]

im still not doing showdown bp

nor the normal bp

I can't any more of these grinds more than the weekly fatigue

[quaint girder]

Rip

I am almost finished with this build so I'm hype

After 2 years I finally can have my 4mod 8wf Thunder Lotus Matari build

[balmy coral]

my bad I'm done with showdown bp but not seasonal grind for flux

[quaint girder]

Which is very fun

[balmy coral]

xD

congrats !

Jsut got done with thunderscorch too after a few sacrifices

[quaint girder]

Finished the Season Quest grind and Yama grind for Flux

[balmy coral]

Ye I just do the major ones cos It'd be anyway

[quaint girder]

Next season two Seasons I'll finish my Frost Lotus build on Zippy

Then I have my two favorite builds and I'll probably mess around with a build for Kurumi

Or the Poison build for Zippy's Curio

[balmy coral]

I'm surely gonna save for kurumi this time. I wasn't able to do it last season cos less time, it was tight.

There was no way I'd be able to build her dedicated build back then.

But since I'm done with thunder I will def make it

at worst case scenario, it'd take 3 resets to max it

[fickle linden]

buff thunder lotus

thunder coolest element

[scenic moth]

What is the best build for Tessa?

[balmy coral]

Poison bow

[balmy coral]

Poison lotus was the coolest

[ember hamlet]

hi

[fierce light]

Seems pretty weird for her since parrying forces you out of flying and it has the longer cooldown for mod

[hidden creek]

you don't reason with people who goes thunder lotus

[rocky oriole]

2 legendary keys and a shrouded jade :O
just after 600 fatigue

[quaint girder]

Is funnnn

[dim urchin]

Hi guys, does the nirriti collection a fire forge lvl stack or carry over to the next season?

[hidden creek]

not sure what ''nirriti collection a fire forge lvl stack'' suppose to means but it reset when new season comes

[fierce light]

Collection carries over, Fire Forge is reset.

[zealous patrol]

I have like every single curio

But I hadn’t gotten a single ziping one

😭

[fierce light]

Still Crafting Level 0?

That's wild

[zealous patrol]

Ye

Not a single one

I crafted 1 on my alt

And got it

But it never ever showed up on my main

[fierce light]

That's terrifying to hear that's possible

You still have time to unlock it at least

Funny enough even it prefers an Ice build. They can't get poison builds right 😭 .

[north lynx]

I didn't get sutra at 0 till last week

[fierce light]

It took me about 1400 fatigue to get everything to crafting level 1.

Didn't stop random crafting till everything was 1

[north lynx]

I didn't care for it I was just all inning valda curio to get perfect

Knew I'd have all season to get lv 1

Once I got perfect I grinded up to flux

Then didn't play inferno cuz y

Bad loottables

75 fatigue 1 crystal

[fierce light]

It was pretty decent on fragments

2nd to Enigma Peak

[hidden creek]

1 week til peak open
but we already know it gonna be a boring, easy first try clear because that's showdown

[north lynx]

Nah not even

It was just skewed like that because we had luck curio and yinyang

[balmy coral]

peak? boring? how

which map even

[hidden creek]

it's boring because it's uhh, boring

nothing new

and it's easy

too easy

for something that is considered ''end game content''

[north lynx]

They just stopped upping the difficulty

It would be very easy to add harder peak varients

Increase health values

Damage

[fierce light]

Yeah, better than ruins and not as tedious as chapter farming

Issue if they made it harder it would likely still be the same 30 fatigue, not making it worth for most players

Wasn't commonly farmed till recently

[balmy coral]

It

is not an end-game content thou I never considered it as one.

The difficulty u meant should be on Yama not a farmable content like peak no?

[hidden creek]

even if it isn't

the point is it's boring

[balmy coral]

if they won't up the fatigue consumption of peak I don't see any reason to up it's difficulty vice versa. It's pretty dumb otherwise

[hidden creek]

because it has been the same across multiple seasons

and you're saying it's a farming stage make it even more boring

[fierce light]

They promised new modes, hopefully we get something before Tempered Inferno.

Other than Suffer No Demon.

[hidden creek]

hah, look at legend nirriti, the dumbest thing that existed since the beginning

and 0 changes was made to it

[balmy coral]

I thought we were talking bout peak?

[hidden creek]

i did talked about peak?

[balmy coral]

smh

[balmy coral]

Hopefully so

[hidden creek]

?

you were saying that ''it would be dumb if they did this or that'' when the fact that legend nirriti exist is the dumbest thing ever and it's still there after multiple seasons, nothing changed

[balmy coral]

I get that but nirriti itself can't be compared it's a fuc up mode that everybody is aware of lol

[hidden creek]

why it can't be compared?

[balmy coral]

think of it

[hidden creek]

i don't see why you can call nirriti dumb but you can't say the same about peak lmfao

they're both boring to me

[balmy coral]

to me

ye

[hidden creek]

obviously

you don't think peak is boring ye sure enjoy it, to me it's boring asf

you don't think nirriti can be compared to peak ye sure you do you

[fierce light]

Ruins is severely outdated atp

Think this makes the 2nd season with no changes

[balmy coral]

Peak is not as bad as u think so- it's more bearable than nirriti where u constantly get back to 0 power-up every Que.

It's the best we can get to use the new builds.

[hidden creek]

meh you don't need to convince me, this week i didn't even reached 300 fatigue spent lmfao

this whole showdown is boring to me atp

[balmy coral]

Im not convincing u lol

[hidden creek]

so this not for me? ok my bad then

[limpid pecan]

i mean peak is for sure the most "interesting" mode in showdown to play but its kinda pain to play too

u cant play peak solo

[balmy coral]

I'm tryna reason it out on my case lol stop assuming

[limpid pecan]

and u need team of good players to farm it efficiently

[fierce light]

Crazy we haven't gotten a boss rush mode yet

[limpid pecan]

and even then its questionable if its time efficient in terms of drops

[hidden creek]

i mean you're replying to me in the first place when i said peak is boring, it's only natural to assume that you're talking to me

[limpid pecan]

i dont think many people grind out 2400 fatigue every week

[hidden creek]

but if it isn't what you're doing then sur e

now we get into the react throwing phase? 💀

[balmy coral]

That's easy to comeby in SEA at least.

most ppl already have groups to run it rather than looking for every week

[exotic canopy]

peak is very boring its even worse than nirriti imo because cant solo and finding teammates isnt always easy

worse in terms of fun factor farm obviously not

[rotund forge]

i would rather inferno than peak

[exotic canopy]

at least inferno has people solo queueing

[fierce light]

Good chance you won't full clear with a lot of randoms

[exotic canopy]

it works out well when u have one other and can carry a third guy

[fickle linden]

showdown was afterthought when there were only 2 main modes

now there is rift traversal too, gg

[north lynx]

I like peak

yall crazy

finding teammates easy asf too

Unless its later in the week close to reset but on reset day and the weekends its easy

[lusty prism]

Anyone playing nirriti’s now?

[fierce light]

Mainly finding teammates with Yin-Yang Synergy

Did my last 600 fatigue in DITD. Got 2 crystals every run, it's crazy consistent.

[lone umbra]

2 crystals everyrun is quite common indid my last 1500 fatigue there.. gold key dropped more often and 2 crystals everyrun

[fierce light]

Only got like 1 gold key, but decent amount of purple keys

[north lynx]

I've been doing 1800 of ditd

Very good with luck, it's been beating ruins

[fierce light]

I only got like 3 purple jades & 1 gold lol

Some reason Ruins been giving a lot more when below 150% rewards

[north lynx]

I'm going in with around 9k luck now so it's a bit different for me

[lone umbra]

i played like 6k luck when solo and 7k luck with duo pretty decent runs

[north lynx]

I need to get a trio

that would be so ideal

[lone umbra]

my luck jades are 4k and adding 2k yin yang

there are timing diff to get trio as some are busy

[north lynx]

No one on NA wants to grind Ditd haha

[lone umbra]

one more week of nirriti now

and then peak

[ember hamlet]

hi

[marble kindle]

Trying to get into the souljade rerolling thing. I got a rare onto one of my stones but I don't see the auto recast for another rare attribute. Does this mean I have to reroll from a guarentee and then guarentee it again for the one I want? I noticed some people have double windfall

[north lynx]

I'm excited

[north lynx]

Hi

I'll explain

[chilly kestrel]

pls make nirriti longer

[north lynx]

When you reroll a stat on a rareless jade, it has a chance to turn into a rare. The chance increases the more you reroll. You can reroll a rare into another rare, but most people favor max stat rng, as rerolling a rare can yield a max stat.

You cannot get a 2nd rare on a jade by rerolling. You can only get 2nd+ rares on jades by Legend Flux Jades, Flux Jades, and Flux Shards. Flux shards are made by disenchanting jades with rares.

Legend Flux jades can recast a current rare into a rare of your choice, but you only get 3 per season.

[marble kindle]

Oh I see that makes sense now

So with how Windfall works, I want to try to double up Moderations on the same jadestone so I can leave mroe room for windfall subs?

[brave vector]

[dim urchin]

Hi guys, do you recommend if i should roll my ice blast build first or my poison bow build first? I was thinking to finish my bow build first so i can farm faster in enigma peak

[north lynx]

Depends but for the most part it doesn't matter on 12 rare builds

It's moreso about jades that are multi purpose in builds, do you want mod or windfall on both or not

[lone umbra]

why would you want that? dont u need frags

[chilly kestrel]

so u can suffer

[north lynx]

Some builds you will want windfall on certain jades over others tho

[marble kindle]

ahh okay, then last question I have for now. How do I do this Curio stuff, like get the crafting mats

[north lynx]

Right now you can only get them through the weekly log in quest

Curios are locked till the end of the season, and are temporary. You always keep the crafting levels and it's extremely important to get them to at least lv 1

As previous season curios that are not lv 1 you can never get again

(Except maybe in special events)

[marble kindle]

damn I missed the awesome Kurumi one

[north lynx]

But you get 10 crafting mats through weekly quests rn so getting lv 1 easy enough

Yeah unfortunately

[rotund forge]

U playin now?

[north lynx]

Most likely there will be some event bringing old ones back

[lone umbra]

[north lynx]

They've teased it a few times and mentioned it

So you'll just have to be ready when it does

Assuming you still play

[marble kindle]

Yeah, I'm hoping for it. My friends and I went from pvp cannon fodder. To PvE hobos but we really want to get our hands on some of those curios. Like the Kurumi one would of made her infinitely better to play

we're on our 2nd year so we'll last surely

[north lynx]

Nice! Hope the game treats you well. Kurumi is very viable with her curio

Just being able to give attack buffs is strong

And the galaxy thing is strong too

[marble kindle]

Yeah, so hoping they bring some of those back. One of my friend wants the Fox one for Tessa since it looks cute she said

We're just grinding showdown levels so we can farm Hyanue? for Ice jades

[north lynx]

That one is good, but thankfully bow is one of the strongest builds so she doesn't need it to be viable

[marble kindle]

yeah she has it built but she really wants foxes

They all ditched Justina because of her longsword we don't have moderation yet LOL

[chilly kestrel]

nope. werking

[rotund forge]

[nocturne pagoda]

hi! what is up not having all jades with same type of element? any insights what is the tradeoff if sticking to one type instead of suggested mix? 🙂

[brave vector]

[ember hamlet]

xd

[exotic canopy]

can u not craft old curios unless their level one?

i still need my yueshans level one T-T

[ember hamlet]

i see

[dim urchin]

Hi guys how to i unlock this ?

[limpid pecan]

u need to get trash loot 200 times basically

xd

[dim urchin]

huh?

its say complete 200 matches tho, but i think i've played more than 200 matches

[ebon locust]

You need to play 200 showdown matches and not get anything good in order to get that achievement. I think it only works in hard or higher missions if u got Fatique Accumilation on

[tranquil palm]

well, for this build it doesnt seem to affect elemental accumulation how many thunders you have, and your mainsource of dmg is burn, so its just some extra to get different elementals proccing (its me clearsite btw 😉)

correct me if im wrong but thats how i see it just in my own experience

[exotic canopy]

play nirriti youl get catch up points aproximately 9/10 games

[balmy coral]

200 matches that say target not reached - u get catch up points instead of a full reward.

[dim urchin]

So this has to hit 200 ?

[dim urchin]

But I’ve been running nightscream tho still 108

[balmy coral]

Ye play 200 times/matches that says what I mentioned.

[ebon locust]

You basically need to get lucky that ur unlucky to get the catch-up points. You can run anything except Yamas bc you basically don't get any rewards there except completing the stage for the first time. I ran a quick boss mission over and over on Nightscream difficulty to get it done but it takes a while bc u need to be unlucky and get nothing. That doesn't happen often

[ember hamlet]

hi

[balmy coral]

Heya

[ember hamlet]

xd

[fierce light]

While it doesn't matter attributes wise as Windfalls are additive, you still want Moderation/Scorching on the jades that are used in most builds (such as Successive Ice Blast for Ice Builds & Thunder Counter for Scorching Builds) as you won't be punished as much if a non-core jade is replaced.

[fierce light]

Poison Bow is cheaper, but it's only helpful for bossing mainly. Ice Surge is very flexible in comparison.

[fierce light]

Seeing there's a red border, that means it's a burn build. Burn builds do not care about Elemental Damage, but rather with the new potential tree there's a node called Aquatic Prison. This node applies Soaked whenever an Elemental Burst occurs. Running 2-3 different Wieldings allows this to activate more often.

[quaint girder]

Depends on your economy and jade management. If you're casual, putting 2x mods/WF on two core souljades like Successive Ice Blast or Frozen Blast can help with costs as the jades can be used in other builds. Otherwise if you're midcore like Xilenced said, you can distribute it any way you want.

[brave vector]

[nocturne pagoda]

what is the max amount of scorching you can stack in jades? is 12 max and anything higher doesn't make any difference?

[soft pelican]

i wish they buff the xp gain from doing the higher lv showdown campaign

so theres like more option to farm xp

i would rather bowjob duel w our new boss for xp over spamming niriti if its xp gain wasnt piss poor

[fierce light]

Anything above 12 will do the damage of 12.

[native delta]

might be a little bit of a bot question but which character would you recommend building first?

[fierce light]

XP Gain is just based on Fatigue Cost, but they did a poor job balancing that in respect to time spent.

[fierce light]

One of the more expensive sets, but it's pretty much usable on anyone: Ice Surge

[native delta]

👍

[soft pelican]

bow might be more fun if starting fresh tho ngl

much easier to pilot

ur just gonna have to leech off people in ti

[fierce light]

Yeah, it's the 2nd most recommended set.

[native delta]

Yeah, literally just playing morus isle chapter 2 XD

[balmy coral]

@amber terrace

[shrewd basin]

How TF am I crashing in a solo ruins

This game is cheeks

[amber terrace]

not me

[amber terrace]

Same

Trash gem

[marble kindle]

Wait is Windfall for all my attributes or just the ones on the souljade its on?

[balmy coral]

someone using your acc?

wait nvm that's not u

both of ur accounts are offline

[amber terrace]

same name, not me

[balmy coral]

Ye

[fierce light]

Only the non-Rare Attributes on the same Souljade

[marble kindle]

ahh okay

[smoky light]

Whats the best place to farm souljades to deconstruct them for more rerolls

[balmy coral]

Rn none but next week peak will open to farm Jades exclusively

[marble kindle]

is there a difference between Flux Jade and Legend Jade?

[brave vector]

[quaint girder]

Yes

[north lynx]

A flux jade just adds a rare

[quaint girder]

Flux just adds a random rare.

Legend Flux allows you to choose your rare for an existing rare

[north lynx]

Legend can choose an existing rare to be whatever you want

[north lynx]

Has to be on an existing rare

[fierce light]

Flux Jade

• Converts any Attribute you choose into a random Rare Attribute when you Imbue it.
• Interchangeable with 2 Flux Jade Shards.

Legend Jade

• Converts a non-Rare Attribute you choose into a random Rare Attribute when you Imbue it.
• Converts a Rare Attribute you choose into your selected Rare Attribute when you Imbue it.

[limpid pecan]

BTW they changed descriptions

for flux jade

[fierce light]

Does it work?

[limpid pecan]

no clue

and im scared to try

if i try and it doesnt work

i just waste flux

[fierce light]

Probably a typo on their end cause there's no point in making a distinction otherwise.

[rotund forge]

time to try on a new build

[balmy coral]

They trippin

[fickle linden]

gettin close to max stack

these are nice tho

[amber terrace]

[ember hamlet]

hi

[marble kindle]

Theres Flux Shard, Flux Jade and Legend Jade. Flux and Legend Jade says the same thing but the Legend Jade tells you where you can get it.

oh I didn't see that posted above

well I guess its just wait for someone to try it

[gleaming idol]

any tips for Nirriti ruin legend ?
try its once the boss are like damage sponge

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Mask leveled up!

[quaint girder]

Grind Fire Forge to max stat

Spin2Win as Zippy

[cobalt torrent]

is there even a place where you can get flux jade other than hero badge shop for being unlucky 600 times? (it has the old description there if you try to buy it without having achievement score)

[fickle linden]

battlepass

curio progress reward

idk if they changed BP reward to the new jade

[cobalt torrent]

battlepass has legend, yama rewards legend, season challenge also rewards legend

[fickle linden]

curio progress reward then

[gleaming idol]

What element good for her

[fierce light]

They replaced a lot of the old sources with the Legend Jade.

So going to have to mainly deconstruct Souljades with Rare Attributes to get Flux Jade Shards to start applying those 2nd Rares.

[quaint girder]

Ice without Curio. Poison with Curio

Oh it's Nirritis

Yeah just ice

[fierce light]

Ice or Thunder.

• She starts with nice Accumulation Rate from her Skill, allowing Ice to be useful even when missing Elemental Confluence and prevents her from being Frozen.
• Razor Swift charges Thundershock quickly, especially when mobbing, allowing you go straight into another one after parrying.

[gleaming idol]

Thank

[fickle linden]

if you have trouble clearing you can go for survival rings

might take you longer to kill the boss but atleast you dont die

it's one of the seasonal quests anyway to do nirriti NS/legend with 12 survival rings

[alpine stone]

pick someone with bow/musket go ranged build and just win by perma staggering the boss

even if u can't do that u will still win just fine since u will be tanky and most likely also have the ring that heals during deadeye

[elder hound]

when u get aqua chains early on a valda musket run

big chilling

[peak finch]

Ok..

[gleaming idol]

its there a way to know if my next attack will deal chain crush damage or not ?

[fierce light]

A green icon will appear at the top-left showing that it is ready.

[signal kite]

Yea Count how many times you have landed an elemental dmg from the start of the match simple

[shrewd basin]

You can count?

[signal kite]

Manually

Each time you do elemental dmg count +1

Starting from 0 from the start of the match

[gleaming idol]

thank

[shrewd basin]

Nah

[fickle linden]

[signal kite]

Meanie he says thanks and you saying nah to him

[shrewd basin]

[gleaming idol]

here there icon btw if you wondering

[fierce light]

Technically not right either lol. Successive Ice Blast counts as +3, Ice Thorn counts as +1.

[signal kite]

Totally forgot that part

[balmy coral]

what a stupid weekly quest

[elder hound]

can some1 screenshot their ranged anima ring collection? the one online seems to be an old season and couldnt find it in pins/everything sheet

missing one but not sure what and testing different elements wasnt bearing fruit

[fickle linden]

i got that 2 weeks in a row

[balmy coral]

33/34 no clue what I'm missing

[fickle linden]

wdym

[balmy coral]

There is it

lol

[fickle linden]

not like getting it will give you anything

after i get all buffs from them idc anymore

[elder hound]

thanks much appreciated

i wasnt planning to go for it but its the only one im missing for 100% so might as well...

[balmy coral]

Idc in general lol

not even doing the legend

[fickle linden]

i just want the money and ult for bosses

and atk boosts

so pretty much everything

[balmy coral]

Yuup

[balmy coral]

Have u decided on a build yet?

[shrewd basin]

Just did a bot trio solo for event quest killed 41 almost 100k damage

[fickle linden]

i got maxed ice lotus, poison lotus/venomous lotus, old bow build, kylin dedicated build and 90% maxed ice surge now

i'm not building anything until they release zai

i mean everything is maxed except ice surge atm

dont think im gonna 100% max it anyway, it's good enough for peak now

what abtu

[balmy coral]

near-maxed Ice surge and thunderscorch surge.

Just maxing my scorch surge I already got all the rares I need.

[balmy coral]

maxing is more taxing atp

[fickle linden]

and no point for me personally since i dont farm yama's

i just need builds that will clear peak and inferno fast

[fierce light]

With all this I would even say you're in a good spot for Yama's.

[fickle linden]

yeah all that is lacking is my own skills, my ping and my FPS

[fierce light]

I just got a maxed Ice Surge, but my Bow, TScorch and Kylin build are all around 80-90% done.

[fickle linden]

do you have the new bow build?

with pestilent pool etc

[fierce light]

Both

[viscid wraith]

[elder hound]

im 91.43% done with ice surge now

[fickle linden]

<@&1268843709106229278>

[tiny coral]

Gone

[raw magnet]

i was going to ban that guy but carl bot beat me to it

AI taking over my job

[tiny coral]

carl bot LMFAO

[brave vector]

[inner moss]

Swarmed by a bunch of angry bees

[cursive kestrel]

oh another Thursday comes back already?

[lone umbra]

you have built enough city

[cursive kestrel]

I haven't logged in at all for a whole week

I built like 3-4 houses already

[balmy coral]

rich

[cursive kestrel]

I mean in game...

[balmy coral]

and here I thought u could have me there rent-free

[viscid wraith]

bruh swarm's so clunky

skill issue

[ember hamlet]

hi

[lone umbra]

hi

[cursive kestrel]

blaming yourself ❌ blaming the game ✅

[chilly kestrel]

can confirm, its the game’s fault

[lone umbra]

swarm is indeed clunky... it could even hit deadeye shot to a mob in paragon 1

[lone umbra]

when it is not?

[brave vector]

[sonic edge]

Damn I’m exactly 1min away from being second place for Yama’s Abyss for paragon 1

But why was paragon 1 easier than astral 3

😭

[rotund forge]

[dim urchin]

Hi guys can just double check, if dooms give rewards? If not can we untick the fatigue to run it? Dont wanna kinda waste fatigue there

[rotund forge]

ya

u can

[balmy coral]

Yes

[rotund forge]

latte chocopie

[dim urchin]

okay, thanks guys!

[chilly kestrel]

[ember hamlet]

hi

[rotund forge]

[rotund forge]

do u play this

[ember hamlet]

yes

level 100

[rotund forge]

damn

i thought u were rank master

[ember hamlet]

nono

i play all

3 mode all play

[rotund forge]

🗣️

carry me next week for enigma

[ember hamlet]

only rank no max

everyday play rank

so hard up the point

i like random , Because it is more fun this way, you don't know what tactics your teammates like, you can choose to attack all the time, hide all the time or sneak attack

xdddd

At present, I feel that showdown is getting harder and harder to play, and it is not fun. I think we can add a boss that appears every hour and everyone attacks the boss, and the team with the highest damage will get some rewards.

[lucid ore]

Another season of farming nirriti unfortunately rn

[ember hamlet]

yes

[sonic edge]

How do you have to made epic jades

[balmy coral]

Not really hard but tiresome.

It's a long season too.

We just need a few improvements for the daily grind. To at least alleviate the fatigue of showdown grind.

[magic prairie]

Hard? No. Boring? Yes

[fierce granite]

.

[ember hamlet]

event free 2

you can go

you play long time , evrything have

xdddd

[calm kestrel]

I’ve seen at least 3 different people post this picture…

https://tenor.com/view/doakes-stare-gif-6201328377551420443

[soft pelican]

every time i do enigma for funsies and i just get mvp bc i play poison bow so even if i do no damage my healing pad is insane

this game mvp system is cringe lol

[viscid wraith]

It keep hitting the ded mob

[calm kestrel]

Thought it was just me. Genuinely pissed me off 🫩😂

[fierce light]

Poison Bow has a high base dmg output, as long as you're going against the bosses, should be fine. Don't think it was very good in Tempered Inferno though relatively.

[soft pelican]

i know it has good damage to boss

im just saying even if i have 2x justina doing 8 mil damage and i do 3 mil im still gonna get mvp just bc imma have like 100k + healing

[fierce light]

Ah gotcha

[soft pelican]

its just uber stupid how mvp works sometimes lol

kylin usually gets it but bc he does good damage people never care about his healing pad but on telmuch it becomes painfully obvious im just padding lol

[balmy coral]

Not that MVP matters thou it doesn't reward u anything.

[soft pelican]

lots of things dont matter in this game

but mvp doesnt need to be devalued even more like that

[balmy coral]

It's just an unnecessary feature lol

[shrewd basin]

Ey bruh give me some frags

[ember hamlet]

xdd

[amber terrace]

combo, dual weapon

[ember hamlet]

i see

new combo

[amber terrace]

combo short weapon

[ember hamlet]

but

very hard use

[brave vector]

[rich surge]

Guys what do I do with these jades that have 1x scorching. I need windfall or moderation instead.

[brave vector]

[shrewd basin]

Reroll for a near max stat common or deconstruct for flux shard and try and reroll for the rare you need

[brave vector]

[rich surge]

Can I keep rerolling the scorch attribute until I get a new rare one on it or I have to swap to a common one and then keep rolling for a rare?

I dont want to deconstruct it because all other attributes on it are good

[quiet swallow]

Anybody in NA running Doom?

[shrewd basin]

@fierce light I don’t think you can reroll a rare after changing it iirr

[fierce light]

On Chill Spike and Frostbite Chain you can:

1. Attribute Recast [Scorching] until either:

1. a maxed non-Rare Attribute appears (most common).
2. a Rare Attribute appears that you want.

2. Deconstruct for 1 Flux Jade Shard each.

On Successive Ice Blast, you unfortunately put a second Rare Attribute on it while having one you didn't want. So that limits your options:

1. Attribute Recast a [Scorching] until a maxed non-Rare Attribute appears.

Then Attribute Recast the remaining [Scorching] until either:

1. a maxed non-Rare Attribute appears.
2. a Rare Attribute you want appears.

2. Deconstruct for 2 Flux Jade Shards.

[calm kestrel]

@fierce light Why do we get penalised for breaking Aegis "too fast?" Its such a stupid mechanic. I can't get sub 1:10 on Paragon 1 because my build deletes Aegis. I've only had that issue this season. Is it a new mechanic?]

[rich surge]

From what he says there it seems you can

[shrewd basin]

That’s why I @ him

[rich surge]

🙂

[fierce light]

They have really low Aegis scaling at the start of a season, but it starts to get ridiculous towards the end of the season once we're past Paragon 15-ish.

So unfortunately for now it favors Ice and Burn builds since they deal a disproportionate amount of Health DMG in comparison to Aegis DMG.

[balmy coral]

I'd deconstruct all that. The values are really low

[rich surge]

🙁

kill me

haha

[still rivet]

Anyone runnin showdown

[rich surge]

farming the jades and the fragments later will be a pain

[calm kestrel]

Okay that makes me feel a bit better. It was pissing me off cause I specifically have DMG to Aegis on my burn build, to compensate for the lack of Aegis DMG Burn does.

[fierce light]

Burn also doesn't benefit from a broken Aegis, other than the boss being inactive, since it goes through it.

[rich surge]

Can you tell an attribute has max value right away or you gotta go back to the enhance value tab to confirm?

[fierce light]

If you memorize them yeah. It doesn't tell you the max on the results screen unfortunately.

Table is in the pins.

[rich surge]

ah alright, thank youi

[rotund forge]

☠️ wtf bro

If I get scorching as the first rare

It goes to deconstruct

[fierce light]

Dang, must not be common to convert them to maxed attributes. Interesting.

[signal kite]

If not the one rare i want straight to deconstruct

[balmy coral]

Ngl atp building a jade with low values is just asking for shards.

[rotund forge]

if it's a lucky jade who get the rare correct it's fine

But if it gets scorching I'll just throw it

[balmy coral]

maxing values is as painful

[fierce light]

Yeah, that's why I convert bad rares to max lol

[balmy coral]

That's why I keep jades with maxed out values now.

[signal kite]

If the 1st rare is my desirable one then I let the jade stay other wise chop chop

[balmy coral]

In case I need them

[rotund forge]

But mostly it don't work for me

Like if I max the rare and then convert to something later

[tranquil palm]

im thinking of greeding this Moderation roll over 8th WF on Thunder Surge... but will i regret later... I mean it cant be that bad? 🥲

[rotund forge]

It goes to low value again

[fierce light]

You don't change the value of the rare

It's always a random value from it

Average amount of recasts they say is 24 iirc to get a maxed from it from cn

[balmy coral]

Ye but more forgiving

[rotund forge]

oo

[balmy coral]

Peak next week

running Nirriti will be more needed now

[rich surge]

Im fairly new to this

[lone umbra]

nirriti drops are so shit even at 150% i got 75 crystals... too much rng

[balmy coral]

Yuup same. Couldn't even max 1 non-rare and already at 1k fatigue

[lone umbra]

glad i m past 600 now i can farm ditd for consistent drops

[balmy coral]

I will have to still

[dim urchin]

Hi guys, another coupons to on for showdown pass to make it lvl quicker?

[lone umbra]

what?

[shrewd basin]

Xp vouchers

[shrewd basin]

If you have multiple it just stacks the amount of run you can do with the xp buff

[dim urchin]

im on XP voucher

but per round is still 266 tho

im using the 10x xp voucher

[shrewd basin]

That’s only 2x xp for 10 runs

All it does is cut the amount of runs you need to level

[dim urchin]

so the 5x showdown one isnt it for showdown lvl?

or works for battle pass as well

[shrewd basin]

The 5x,10x,20x just mean the amount of runs, it’s all just 100%xp your basically do 2 runs for the cost of 1

[dim urchin]

i know, but is there a voucher for showdown battle pass xp?

[shrewd basin]

If you looking for BP xp use these

[dim urchin]

ohhh

got it

thanks !

so its treasure bonus

[shrewd basin]

😉

Yeah

[dim urchin]

Thanks mate!!

[shrewd basin]

🤨 @fierce light get a better time I do not deserve first

[fierce light]

Oh I duo'd that with someone

[lone umbra]

i think this would not apply to showdown battle pass

[exotic canopy]

u do deserve first

[tulip tundra]

[brave vector]

[shrewd basin]

@north lynx sorry game crashed then I got invited to play bg3 maybe next time

[brave vector]

[elder hound]

solo DITD is the play after 600?

[plain spire]

Depends if you're farming for crystal and you won't get burn out by it since it's only 15 fatigue that's 40 game per 600 fatigue.

[elder hound]

guess DITD till burnt out cause that does sound like hell

[balmy coral]

Do it last 600

run nirriti til 1800 for this week

[ember hamlet]

hi

[elder hound]

home stretch

[brave vector]

[lone umbra]

only run nirriti if need frags '

else DITD > nirriti in terms of crystals

[fierce light]

DITD for 1800 fatigue would absolutely burn me out

[balmy coral]

I need both and nirriti is bearable cos of bunny

[drowsy crow]

[balmy coral]

Hii bunny

[drowsy crow]

Hehe...hi🐰

[balmy coral]

are u playing? I'm drying my hair I can't yet

[drowsy crow]

Yea will play soon after take a shower 🚿

[balmy coral]

Okee let me know

[ember hamlet]

good morning

[lone umbra]

good morning

[soft pelican]

what is ditd? diddys traumatizing d?

[fierce light]

Something like that

Dangers ||in the|| Deep

[shrewd basin]

Why spoiler tag that?

[soft pelican]

ok spamming that is definitely gonna be traumatizing

[drowsy crow]

Let's go

[balmy coral]

Okee

[ember hamlet]

xd

[rotund forge]

no daddy's in the diddy

[cursive kestrel]

I haven't even done doom

[lone umbra]

wow

[chilly kestrel]

im at 0/2400

[lone umbra]

and whose fault is that?

[chilly kestrel]

urs

[lone umbra]

not at all .. i asked u remember?

[lone umbra]

did u even do last week doom and speedrun?

[balmy coral]

1.4k here .. a bit slow

next reset I gotta grind early and finish before DNA gets released.

[cursive kestrel]

Me too me too

[chilly kestrel]

aint my fault i was busy when u asked ok

[brave vector]

[lone umbra]

Then how come it is my fault?

[chilly kestrel]

u asked when i was busy

[fickle linden]

they should buff rewards for when you don't use all fatigue

not sure how much it gives but im pretty sure i get few jades from it each week

[fierce light]

Yeah it gives a pretty pitiful amount

They could make it give Catch Up Points equal to slightly less than you can get from running missions on Normal and make Catch Up Points not expire. Not sure why they do anyway.

[ember hamlet]

hi

[rotund forge]

I see her playin now

[rich surge]

Guys which mode is the best for farming souljade fragments?

[fierce light]

Enigma Peak with 3x Legendary Rune Keys, opens next reset.

[rich surge]

I was afraid of this

and until it opens what to do?

[fierce light]

Stock up on Crystals

[dusty wharf]

whts ur id ?

I think I have played with you

[rich surge]

which crystals? and from where?

ahh Ig oyu mean carved crystals

[dusty wharf]

which else

[rich surge]

idk wouldnt be asking otherwise

[lone umbra]

[fierce light]

Nirriti's Ruins or Dangers in the Deep.

Personally I do my first 1800 Fatigue in Ruins, then last 600 in DitD. Usually while listening to some audio commentary or some show that doesn't require much attention to follow.

[quaint girder]

Hey @fierce light! Randomly wanted to say I appreciate you and how hard you work on the Showdown stuff.

That is all

[quaint girder]

Oh shit, we're already at Peak

Time flies. I've been too busy

I need more time in my life to burn my fatigue and finish fire forge. I want to play Domain with brown keys because Thunder Lotus Matari is super fun this season

[fierce light]

Hope it comes with some fatigue changes

[balmy coral]

Increase it by 50

[fickle linden]

wish there were some other rewards than just showdown recasting materials in showdown too

2 wonder box isn't enough to make me play it

i already have many builds, crystals and shards aren't interesting reward

i guess showdown BP xp but that thing is so easy to max there is no need to play more than few games a week

basically gamemode is not fun enough to just play, it needs rewards

[dim urchin]

Hi guys can you farm the flux jade? If i were to complete a build and get it from battle, it kinda gotta take years man..

[balmy coral]

u can do it by recasting a random jade until u get a flux shard (u need 2 shards to imbue a rare).

[quaint girder]

Basically what Jinu said. Once you finish getting your first rare on your core builds (Frost Surge, Scorching, Deadeye, and Curio-specific), everyone starts rolling on junk jades for Rares to convert into Flux Shards

@fierce light In your opinion what's considered core in Poison that's a stable investment

For example, Ice Builds always run Successive Ice Blast and Frozen Blast and Thunder Builds always run Thunderpull and Thunder Counter.

[brave vector]

[amber terrace]

[quaint girder]

I was thinking Miasma Drive and Pestilent Pool, but I'm not sure if that's correct or not.

[amber terrace]

next week go enigma peak

[fierce light]

Pestilent Pool and maybe Element Surge.

[lone umbra]

pestilent pool can be considered as core... miasma drive too but there is variations in recent poison build

maybe element surge too

[quaint girder]

Element Surge vs Miasma Drive

[fierce light]

Miasma Drive is a stat boost, so it can always be replaced

Aside from Curio builds

[quaint girder]

Ah

Is there any downside to having Surge for poison?

DT Surge is awful because you get locked in a DT Turret game basically

Ice Surge isn't very good if you're dependent on Frostbite self procs for Defusing or Countering

[lone umbra]

none that i know of

[quaint girder]

Gotcha so its a free stat buff. Poison meter at full isn't needed for anything?

Like a self explosion or a defuse condition like DT or Ice?

[lone umbra]

ye i believe.... just need pestilent pool to enter surge state

[fierce light]

I wouldn't really say Ice Surge is a downside since it's the strongest option at the moment.

Plus it gives accumulation for free

[quaint girder]

I agree, but I was just giving examples.

O, rite I forgot about that part for Ice Surge

[fierce light]

Poison Surge halves the effectiveness of Infectious Touch

[quaint girder]

Halves?

Valves?

ty for correction

Gotcha so Surge is only bad for Infection Touch builds.

hmm

[fierce light]

That's only considering Toxified applied from reaching max Toxin

[quaint girder]

thanks for educating me on Poison. I think then core would definitely be Pestilent Pool...

[quaint girder]

Ahhh

So max Toxin meter applied self-toxified

and any affects that require self toxified like Infectious will get rekt by Surge

hmm

[fierce light]

Mushroom Summoning applies it from dodges/defuses.

Regardless of your Toxin

[quaint girder]

Poison Lotus pops off of Toxified procs on enemies?

I can't remember the exact verbiage

[fierce light]

Yes

[quaint girder]

gotcha

hmm

So Lotus and Mark builds would benefit the most for landing as many toxified procs on enemies whereas all other poison builds prefer Surge's passive attack buff.

hmm

Okay then it's tough call for poison build in terms of what's considered "core" only Pestilent Pool is truly required for all builds.

[signal kite]

[quaint girder]

Thanks Zer0, trying to figure out how I'm going to map my poison builds

[dim urchin]

so after getting it you gotta deconstruct it ?

[balmy coral]

Yes, basically.

[dim urchin]

okay thanks !

[quaint girder]

Ziping will be definitely a dedicated Mark/Infectious Touch Build where she can proc poison nonstop

Mark removes Elemental Burst CD so that's a lot of Toxin

[balmy coral]

This is the assumed pity by CN however I once broke this by reaching 220+ recast to get 1 rare.

[hidden creek]

that's only for thunder

[quaint girder]

O thanks for correcting

Tabbi

can u do me a flavor, I am stuck at office being salaryman

can you screenshot the Toxic Mark Legendary Jade and the other Toxic Mark Epic jade that's not Mushroom

in English

[hidden creek]

there's no other epic toxic mark jade other than mushroom summoning

[quaint girder]

Defuse Poison Charge just marks enemies with mark on dodge and defuse right?

I wonder if potential tree has any CD reduction on Toxified proc on enemies

[hidden creek]

toxified has no cd wdym

poison elemental blast has cd, toxified effect and toxin blast doesn't

[lone umbra]

poison mark majorly gets its output from toxin blast not the poison element blast

[hidden creek]

kurumi poison mark seems nice

somehow her lmb after a defuse is counted as a finisher move lol

[quaint girder]

Is there a different animation for both?

[quaint girder]

Oh then if there's no CD

When Ziping Curio comes out again, Mark + Boon + Infectious Touch + Drive would be fun

[dim urchin]

is farming in nirriti better or enigma?

[quaint girder]

nonstop Toxified Explosions

[quaint girder]

Nirriti's for Carved Crystals, Enigma for Jade Fragments.

[dim urchin]

got it, thanks !

[quaint girder]

There's more nuance to it when you get situated, but that's the general rule to go by

[hidden creek]

boon only active with aegis break and finisher move

while zipping favor spinning

[quaint girder]

Wouldn't you defuse into Aegis Break?

[hidden creek]

defuse counterattack is not the same with aegis break

they're 2 different moves

[quaint girder]

Ooooo

good catch

so Boon isn't as good on her

hmm

[hidden creek]

which is why it's good on kurumi

[quaint girder]

Probably Mark + Mushroom + Infectious + Drive + Pool then right?

[hidden creek]

because running mark you'd want to continue defusing

and if you input horizontal after a defuse on kurumi she did a blue attack

which is counted as a ''finisher move'' which active boon

[quaint girder]

ooo

interesting Kurumi tech

I had a gut feeling Poison was the way to go on Kuwumba

but I couldn't figure it out

But for Zippy Curio

was thinking Mark, Mushroom, Infectious, Drive, and Pool

[brave vector]

[quaint girder]

tabbi can u screencap Defuse Poison Drive?

[hidden creek]

this jade?

[chilly kestrel]

why u snitching

[quaint girder]

yis

[quaint girder]

okay this is good

still viable on Zippy

So remove Boon

Her mark build with Curio will look like

• Defuse Poison Charge
• Mushroom Summoning
• Miasma Drive
• Pestilent Pool
• Infectious Touch
• [Still Deciding]

hmm

[hidden creek]

kurumi can proc toxin blast this fast

actually should be even faster cuz idek how to perfect this build rotation

lol

[quaint girder]

vid freezes as soon as you're about to clash with boss

lmao

love my browser

[lone umbra]

are u using defuse solidification?

[quaint girder]

now it loaded

dang this is really fast

[hidden creek]

ye

[quaint girder]

what does defuse solidifcation do again?

[hidden creek]

it doesn't matter in this build lol

i'm on my alt

[lone umbra]

poison mark would need miasma boon badly...

[hidden creek]

so it's just there

[lone umbra]

it give attack boost and element acc

[hidden creek]

increase attk and element accumulation rate for awhile after a succesful defuse

[quaint girder]

Zippy wouldn't be proc'ing Miasma Boon that much because she's not using a finisher, she's spinning to win OR using Defuse CA which don't pop the boon.

[quaint girder]

But the elemental accumulation for poison is not the same accumulation for toxin right?

[hidden creek]

yeah

that's why

it doesn't matter that much

still

[dusty wharf]

who dawg ?

[quaint girder]

hmm

[hidden creek]

poison blast caused the poison pool to spawn

so honestly idk

[quaint girder]

yeah working on toxin builds are weird because you have to track both poison and toxin

hmmm

[drowsy crow]

🤭

[quaint girder]

Then Solidification may be needed to pop the poison pool quickly to stack as much toxified as possible

[chilly kestrel]

[quaint girder]

hmm

[dusty wharf]

[lone umbra]

i am not too sure about this builds rotation as well... just gotta maintain mark

[quaint girder]

Then my Zippy build needs something to help accelerate the Poison Blast proc because Pool is necessary for building a lot of Toxin on both yourself and the boss

[hidden creek]

more like you can't get the best of both world
you want to proc pblast for the pool but you also don't want to focus on procing pblast alone because there's more ways to cause toxified now

and toxin blast is ur main source of damage

this is NOT an actual build btw

[quaint girder]

I wonder if it's worth dropping Pestilent Pool for something else or if Pestilent pool is necessary

[hidden creek]

the real actual build ppl run tpull and tproof

[quaint girder]

Every poison build to date used and needed pestilent pool

[hidden creek]

but it figured it would be too much of a hassle

so i just remove those two

[quaint girder]

I'm with you, I'm lore purist and hate how Tpull Tcounter bleeds into every builds

I like my pure element builds even if they're not as optimal

[hidden creek]

nah you don't counter dthunder in this build you defuse them

[quaint girder]

still

[fierce light]

I don't think so, but it depends what the general Curio for Mark does. Dual Chain Crush is really strong, especially with Sutra.

[hidden creek]

that's the dumb part

[quaint girder]

Fair, but I like all the purple

purple clouds everywhere

[hidden creek]

wait they actually cooked up a dual chain build?

how it looks like?

[quaint girder]

yeah last season on zippy she went dual chain

with Curio and Sutra

[hidden creek]

https://tenor.com/view/it-was-my-idea-kyle-broflovski-cartman-south-park-douche-and-turd-gif-22284248

[quaint girder]

lul

I hated it because it reminded me of Tscorch

an abomination and amalgamation of number maxing

[lone umbra]

that was cooked on zip curio

[hidden creek]

i cooked up a dual chains build way before that 🥹

but dark did the calculation and the result was not good

[lone umbra]

dmg output is quite similar it is just tpull and tproof lets meter filled

[quaint girder]

Her mark build with Curio will look like

• Defuse Poison Charge
• Mushroom Summoning
• Miasma Drive
• Infectious Touch
• Pestilent Pool [Replace maybe]
• [Still Deciding]

I'm still cooking to make a pure poison build

Pestilent Pool is big when it pops to create toxified stats on self and boss, but the conditional to get it to pop is rough

oh wait

I'm Zippy

F with moderation should make it near instant

dur

With Solidification it should be instant with Zippy F right?

[hidden creek]

zip doesn't looks good on poison mark ngl

the thing is

[quaint girder]

I'm going to push for it with her Curio. I feel like I can make it work with Infectious Touch

[hidden creek]

with mark you want to run boon

[quaint girder]

4 Mod and 8 WF

[hidden creek]

and with boon you want to do aegis break/finisher move

while zip rotation doesn't favors those 2 moves

[quaint girder]

I know, that's why we dropped Boon and we're swapping for something else.

[fierce light]

• Successive Ice Blast
• Frozen Blast
• Element Surge
• Thunderpull
• Toxified Chain
• Frostbite Chain

[hidden creek]

then it might ended up worse than just going for poison chain

[quaint girder]

This was the most cursed shit I've ever seen.

[quaint girder]

Well, I'm seeing it from a support angle

If I can mark enemies with Vuln

and run with two dedicate bow users

should be able to melt the boss

oh btw, do mark vulns stack from different players?

and do vulns amplify damage from entire team?

[fierce light]

Chain Crush with Sutra had a higher base dmg than Scorching Lv. 12 and the highest multiplier of Ice Blast

[quaint girder]

I don't disagree with the numbers

[hidden creek]

as cursed as mine?

[quaint girder]

the build is mathmatically elegant, just aesthetically messy

[hidden creek]

elem surge poison?

[quaint girder]

Anyway questions:

1.) Do multiple Vuln marks from the mark potential tree stack or do they override each other?

[fierce light]

Ice, for the accumulation

[hidden creek]

huh

tf is this synergy

so sib, fb, elem surge is for ice blast

then tpull for what

[fierce light]

You spam Razor Swift for Ice Blasts to charge Frostbite Chain, Defuse to apply Toxified to charge Toxified Chain. So you'd just play like normal, just defusing the Divine Thunder.

[hidden creek]

ohh forgot the curio

actually never got the chance to try my dual chains build with banner

meh

[fierce light]

Don't think Banner would help much

[hidden creek]

sutra i mean

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[fierce light]

Oh, you could probably go Tri-Chain then, replacing Thunderproof.

[hidden creek]

gosh

nah it won't work cuz the zip dual chains wants you to defuse dthunder while my dual chains wants to parry the dthunder

[fierce light]

Oh, right

[quaint girder]

@fierce light Do you know if multiple marks with vuln potential tree stack or do they override each other?

[fierce light]

Pretty sure they're incompatible

Yeah, their descriptions mention it