#đŸ‘Ÿâ”ƒshowdown

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cursive kestrel
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"for mobile" Tarka_Pepe_sideeye_what

plucky night
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When it first came out, i fucking hated that pvp went from "hey we have this cool weapon duel system, but we also have a fuck you button with gold focus and you kinda insta lose since your enemy sucks at melee but he has ult"

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If only naraka was always more melee focused, both pve and pvp

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i would spend all the money i don't have

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but hey the game is still cool as hell, that is why we play it (not sunk cost phallasy, right?)

north lynx
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Ye I actually enjoy the game

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My critisms of the game are out of love for it

signal kite
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Indeed we want the game to grow and be better we see potential

balmy coral
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basically this

signal kite
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Yea potential

limpid pecan
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cant wait to see what OP bs gold focus oneshot mechanic we get in nier event

signal kite
limpid pecan
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at least they should

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add agnivat

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as playable hero

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i'd main the f out of her

signal kite
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💀

limpid pecan
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biggest missed opportunity

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of naraka

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agnivat hero

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with mega cinematic

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for anniversary

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+200% players

balmy coral
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🛐

quaint girder
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that's what u are

limpid pecan
quaint girder
fierce light
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They were showing drops after 150%

dusty wharf
fierce light
quaint girder
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it's been painful grinding that

fierce light
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Yeah i just try to go as fast as I can to get it over with

dusty wharf
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whts avg for tht ?

fierce light
dusty wharf
balmy coral
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No, look at Sj per fatigue

dusty wharf
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ah

balmy coral
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It's only the rarity I assume

dusty wharf
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ti uses 75

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thats why the total is high

fierce light
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The chart doesn't account for Luck from Gold Keys, just the base rates.

dusty wharf
fierce light
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It's a direct calculation of the drop rates given in-game.

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They still haven't given any clarification on how Luck works other than it boosting average quality.

balmy coral
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Reset later. Guess no sleep for me yet

fierce light
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Wow, they have an app to show their total drops each week and season.

coral shard
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is there a download link for that app or is it CN execlusive?

balmy coral
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CN exclusive

rotund forge
fierce light
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There's no public API for Naraka Global.

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The app for global is very limited as well.

north lynx
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My runs are so optimized

wind light
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help how do i do this

north lynx
plucky night
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2 more nirriti runs and i am finally free

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for 3 hours

balmy coral
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Fatigue

plucky night
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ye

balmy coral
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Damnnn

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Imagine the pain

north lynx
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I'm maxed too

balmy coral
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Same xD

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It's never enough

soft pelican
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is ziping single target rotation still dragonslayer spam?

hidden creek
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more like nezha might spam

plucky night
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which one is which? i just do the spinny thing

hidden creek
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yeah spinny thing is nezha's might

plucky night
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the horizontal long spin

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didn't figure out till like a couple days ago that i can diffuse during it

hidden creek
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yeah she can

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she's also one of the few that can defuse continuously

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as long as previous defuse succeed

plucky night
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yeah thats why i enjoy her the most, its fun to boss with her

soft pelican
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i mean easiest hero in showdown prolly

plucky night
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she is very safe yeah, while still able to deal okay dmg

soft pelican
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its only "okay" if you compared it to the likes of kylin or justina

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its way better than a lot of stuff out there

plucky night
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i am usually in a party with justina, so i actually don't see many other characters to compare to, lol

fierce light
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Yeah she helps me get my first Legend clear pretty reliably.

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Outside of difficult clears, I just run Akos and speedrun through.

plucky night
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i just play every character at this point, leveling them up to 20

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can't handle playing the same over and over, brain shuts down

soft pelican
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top 500 justina in sea are all empyrean 2 sub 60s rn kekw

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shes not even that much effort to play really

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kylin takes more braincells

plucky night
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btw is kurumi ever useful compared to ziping?

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like no matter how much i play kurumi, i can't justify to myself playing her over ziping

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even though i like kurumi

hidden creek
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kurumi is just

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weird

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she was more focused on healing than doing damages

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then her curio make her output skyrocketted

plucky night
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but her healing also kinda sucks on her skill

fierce light
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Kurumi has more potent buffs, but they're more narrow in scale.

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Her DPS is notably lower though.

plucky night
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yeah its like a big dip in damage, like way too big

hidden creek
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but tbh

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current meta got no place for healer

plucky night
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feels like if you need a healer, that means you are already too weak

soft pelican
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if they make her 20% damage bonus perma somehow instead of bind to her ability maybe kekw

plucky night
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and healing won't solve it

hidden creek
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zip was chosen more because of her team element dmg and element accumulation boost on her kit

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not really because she can heals you

plucky night
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yeah

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it also feels nice that her skill and ult let you insta charge attack

soft pelican
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ziping is also no effort

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kurumi in pugs with no comms is basically useless

hidden creek
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on first season of curio kurumi was one of the best damage dealer though

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her curio just boost her output by so much

plucky night
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when i was figuring out builds, i found a big ass spreadsheet with curios and seen the kurumi one

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was real sad when i figured out that spreadsheet was old

hidden creek
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but now when more heroes gets added into showdown, and more curios too

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she falls out again

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now idk if there's a reason to pick kurumi

plucky night
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kurumi always feels like she gets screwed

hidden creek
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though iirc she can make use of the new poison mark build

plucky night
hidden creek
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like actually one of the best, if not the best, on that build

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but again

fierce light
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Ziping Skill can buff the entire team and she's rewarded for using it instead of punished (instant Dragonslayer). Kurumi's Skill does provide a better buff though being x1.2 damage amplification while linked and x1.4 damage amplification with Prayer vs Ziping's Skill giving +4% Attack & +6.2% Elemental Accumulation Rate to her teammates.

hidden creek
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idk if that build is strong enough to beat meta builds

plucky night
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yeah but Kurumi needs to go afk in damage sence to buff teammates(

hidden creek
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when curio comes it will change lol

fierce light
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So far I've managed 40s with Poison Seal build, only ~35% built iirc.

hidden creek
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she can attack during link

plucky night
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oh, maybe i will try her then

soft pelican
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is telmuch dps bad enough its always better to just run bow

hidden creek
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his kit is just ew

fierce light
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Greatsword is just terrible and his Skill has too long of an animation despite it's decent effects.

plucky night
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fav weapon and fav character still, i am okay to play suboptimally a little

hidden creek
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being a gs wielder also doesn't help

plucky night
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to at least make use of the money i spent on outfits

fickle linden
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it's not a little

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he is the worst

plucky night
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and at that point if you are playing bow temulch, its probably better to go tessa

hidden creek
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double bow

fickle linden
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picking non-bow temulch in showdown should get you automatically reported as griefing Temulch_fitcheck

fierce light
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If they added a 7th slot for weapon jades for Aerial Rend, Greatsword would be decent.

plucky night
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i wish we could have a little of customization for the type of attack the weapons have

fierce light
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As of now its DPS doesn't make up for it's clunkiness, unlike Polesword.

plucky night
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not just locked to whatever we had

fickle linden
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i remember using aerial rend with yoto back when i was leveling GS in topaz like 2 seasons ago YotoHime_YouStayThere

hidden creek
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at the end of the day, if you don't compete for top 1-3 yama you can play whatever tbh

shrewd basin
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Sniper Féria

hidden creek
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peak is even solo-able so who tf cares anymore lmfao

plucky night
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i mean once i get my full build done, clear some content, i will probably take a break (will do dailies, but no more fatigue grind)

soft pelican
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can someone explain how to play yueshan for me?

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im like struggling to get his rotation off then defuse and counter in time

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am i just messing up my dodge cancel

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i actually sort of struggle on him to clear empy 2 this week

plucky night
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i just try to get ult asap and not actually play him

hidden creek
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uhh on yueshan you just skill and vertical charge

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then ult

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then skill spam

soft pelican
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ok but if i play thunderscorch i have to do counter follow up too

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his counter animation is so long

fierce light
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Yueshan is just spam Torrent Flow 1st Stage and use his Skill whenever Elemental Burst is off-cooldown.
In Ultimate, you use Skill whenever it's ready, then do Charged Verticals in between.

soft pelican
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the windup is dirt slow too

hidden creek
soft pelican
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how can i even play thunderscorch on him then lol

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do i just wait for ult

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his ult form counter wind down is long too and idk how to cancel its animation

fierce light
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Just run Dodge Prowess so you can dodge cancel the Counterstrike into an Uncharged Melee.

soft pelican
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so i always have to do something to proc divine thunder again then counter it instead of just chain counter/ counterattack /counter

hidden creek
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don't think you wanna ult if you run tscorch

soft pelican
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damn that sucks lol

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my thunder scorch build is straight ghetto so i guess it doesnt matter

fierce light
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You'll have to treat it similar to Kylin in his Ult. You'll need 3 unequal Wieldings to activate Aquatic Prison at different times.

soft pelican
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but isnt kylin way less clunky bc every swing is a thunder proc

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so you can just follow up w a parry then counter

fierce light
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You can jump cancel Yueshan's Counterstrikes in Ult iirc.

soft pelican
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yueshan ult parry then counter then the counter damage goes out, thunder proc but hes still winding down his counter

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oh crap i didnt think of that lol

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didnt pvp enough

hidden creek
fierce light
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Hmm.

  • Defuse ‱ Thunder Charge, Thunderbind Spell, Element Surge, Thunder Charge, Thunder Counter, & Phantom Charge.

could work as the 3rd Generation Scorching build, but it's reliant on Aquatic Prison to function.

soft pelican
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defuse related = prolly broken on ziping

shrewd basin
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What’s optimal scorching on kylin?

fierce light
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If you're going for Scorching, you always want +12.

shrewd basin
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So atleast 4

fierce light
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x4 +3 yeah.

shrewd basin
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4 wf aswell yeah? Or mix some mod in?

fierce light
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For heroes with strong skills, some Moderation is okay. Shouldn't need more than 2 though when running 3 Wieldings.

soft pelican
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whats akos move

fierce light
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Start Charging Horizontal → Wild Sweep (Dodge) → Cloud Weaver → Start Charging Vertical → Wild Sweep (Dodge) → Aegis-break 3rd Stage.

soft pelican
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tx tx

thorn narwhal
north lynx
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I'm at like 156 keys rn

thorn narwhal
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even with doom 4000 luck bonus dangers was over 15+ runs for a key

north lynx
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I'm not sure if luck affects keys tbh

fierce light
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Ruins gave me a decent amount of keys this week, but don't think it was 38 for sure.

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Luck only affects Souljade Quality though.

civic tartan
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does anyone know if the devs messed with showdown nirriti or something

drifting lanceBOT
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civic tartan
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the creeps just extra tough

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running element build with gu with 23 stacks and the final boss survived through 2 bursts?

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the recent match showed a significant time needed for 1 match

civic tartan
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the dmg dealt easily double the previous matches

fierce light
civic tartan
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fire forge?

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sorry, i used vietnamese language and only changed to english so you guys can understand

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some comparision. this match was done in this season also

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trash build, significantly faster tiem to finish

limpid pecan
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maybe u didnt get boss with aegis down?

civic tartan
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with 23 stacks of elements?

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it literally melt the boss even with full aegis in 4 seconds

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it would seem this is the fire froge

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the recent match should have a better stats than the second match i posted

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which meant more damage, faster clearing time

fierce light
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Yeah, that increases your base stats, allowing you to clear faster.

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They did nerf Justina's Ultimate's Element scaling as well.

civic tartan
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but if you guys look at the dmg to health, the most recent match had double the dmg

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when comparing to the second match i posted

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i don't want to be an a-hole, but a 100% buff to the nirriti normal?

plucky night
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is it a solo run? i messed once by going trio

civic tartan
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gotta be a joke right

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yes, it was solo

fierce light
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Some runs can have rooms that spawn more enemies

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Or just have more elites in general.

plucky night
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could also be that the fatal finish isn't counting damage properly

civic tartan
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not sure

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but there is 1 thing i know for certain

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justine gu F can 1 shot elite in stage 1

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the recent match, however, it did not

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imma try a second game

plucky night
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did you get hydroflare blaze early on?

civic tartan
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no

plucky night
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i dunno then, need more data

civic tartan
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i can stream if you wanna watch, just don't expect audio though

plucky night
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nah, can't rn

balmy coral
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She's still good as ever only feel a lil lacking if u are unlucky with rings

fierce light
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Yeah still the only hero with an inherent ability that actually scales from an Element.

civic tartan
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yup, they did do something to nirriti

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creeps spawn from double to triple in some zones

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more elites, more hp, reduce dmg

fierce light
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Yeah probably would be better off running Hard atp

civic tartan
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first they messed with rift, now hidden changes to showdown. they sure know how to piss off their player uh

fierce light
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Common mobs tend to die too fast before Element even activates on Normal

balmy coral
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Damnn first run

civic tartan
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the only change i could find for this season

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nothing about nirriti buff

fierce light
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Rooms are pretty random

civic tartan
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guess imma go hard for now, not worth it on normal

exotic canopy
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lol wtf this guy got thundershock 2 on round 3

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how do u even do that

north lynx
balmy coral
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Luck basically

balmy coral
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bruuuh

dreamy flume
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Anyone trying to run new doom domain? the two bosses at once is pretty obnoxious solo

fierce light
# balmy coral

Would be so nice if you couldn't get the same rare from recasting

balmy coral
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Yuup

balmy coral
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150+ reroll no rare

fierce light
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Interesting

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I guess that's just their highest recorded one

cursive fable
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good rng today

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3/3 windfall

shrewd basin
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It’s triggering me that I’m 8 point from the legend stone and there nothing I can do for a week

shrewd basin
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The new flux crystal

fickle linden
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ahh

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well it's best to save it for later anyway i guess

calm kestrel
balmy coral
balmy coral
plain spire
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@fierce light Do you have the list of hero exclusive builds? Like valda,yoto builds etc.

plain spire
tribal bone
dusty wharf
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did u see the tea ?

rotund forge
restive wraith
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@fierce light Im following your guide since I was doing poison lotus, should I switch windfall (and poison blast obviously) to the recommended stats or 2 windfall is fine? also is ranged mean you need teammate since we cant defuse or there is some tech for that? ( I just comeback so I lack a lot of info big thank as alwaysKylin_hearty )

heavy shoal
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Does attack increase ranged dmg or is it only melee dmg

limpid pecan
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everything

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thats why its usually one of the best stats

rotund forge
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@chilly kestrel

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U playin

chilly kestrel
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nah but i can hop on

chilly kestrel
rotund forge
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Yea

chilly kestrel
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ok. launching game

rotund forge
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Give me too

chilly kestrel
rotund forge
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The gradient

chilly kestrel
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sent

hidden creek
# restive wraith <@394141981200351235> Im following your guide since I was doing poison lotus, sh...

i'd recommend keeping dual windfalls since it's rly hard to come by, also you probably won't even notice the dmg diff
and yeah you'd want someone to hold boss aggro for you if you run ranged builds, especially bow, cuz musket can fly, its parry counterattack is good while swarm can keep their charge progress after dodging, meanwhile on bow you don't want to do parry counterattack and after a dodge you'd have to recharge your attack from the beginning again

dusty wharf
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the last 3 gradients

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they look good

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mine is the 2nd last

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you can check

rotund forge
rotund forge
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Thich buti

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Is it what I think it is

chilly kestrel
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OH

rotund forge
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What

chilly kestrel
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ask em LMAO

lone umbra
restive wraith
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poison jades tho :/ I guess just go ice first

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I think I saw "dedicated build" earlier which use those 2 jades too but not sure where is it now hmmmm

hidden creek
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tbh it's up to you but i really think bow doesn't suits for solo

gleaming idol
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Ă­t there anyway to farm jade ?

hidden creek
hidden creek
gleaming idol
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im just farm to get the fragment

hidden creek
restive wraith
gleaming idol
restive wraith
hidden creek
hidden creek
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it's closed for now though

restive wraith
hidden creek
restive wraith
# hidden creek this one

oh the event one? like some previuos time limited event when we just spend all our fatigue in one day? xD

hidden creek
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nah

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that's suffer no demon

restive wraith
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:0

hidden creek
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TI is a new stage

restive wraith
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ah...

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I forgot so many things lmao

hidden creek
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that gives curio materials

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new equips

restive wraith
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ohhhh ty, it's also time limited?

hidden creek
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kinda

restive wraith
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I actually have no curio :c

hidden creek
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it only open late into the season

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then it close when new season comes

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and all of ur curios are disabled

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all of your curio materials also got deleted when new season comes

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to put it simple it's a dmg boost and also another layer of RNG to get the best curio you could if you want to compete for yama leaderboard spot

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those things are crazy, it could make a trash tier hero immediately shot up to SSS tier

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that's the story with valda and yoto last season

restive wraith
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I see! ty tabbie

hidden creek
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so the wisest tactic would be:

  • get a somewhat decent build to do needed stuffs during the season
  • save ur mats
  • wait for curio release
  • wait for ppl to cook up OP builds with curios
  • spend ur mats on those builds
  • finish whatever you couldn't before bcoz now ur dmg is crazy
  • compete yama
gleaming idol
# hidden creek

did they nerf the souljade quantity i only got 5 with fatigue

hidden creek
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not guarantee that you will get which amount of souljades

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if u're unlucky ur drop will still be trash no matter what you ran

gleaming idol
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ok thank for the explaining

signal bronze
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2

limpid pecan
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xd

hidden creek
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xd

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what can i say

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that's showdown right there

dusty wharf
signal kite
dusty wharf
clever zenith
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what is the meta now is it still same as previous season ?

dusty wharf
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ice surge and thunder scorch

clever zenith
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did anyone shared a full build

rotund forge
dusty wharf
clever zenith
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so somehow the same as previous season

dusty wharf
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but there are changes in those builds

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some sljs need to be replaced with new ones

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ask dark

clever zenith
balmy coral
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Set of builds from zero

restive wraith
restive wraith
# balmy coral

o.o I need those poison builds, I cant find em on site

balmy coral
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I'm not sure which poison build to go for u can ask zero

restive wraith
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if I want to reuse all my old poison lotus I get poison lotus surge is good đŸ€” but lets wait for him

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either way I farmed a lot these 2 weeks hope I hit those 2 new jades already

lone umbra
restive wraith
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help me then my brother

lone umbra
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If you want to build poison go for poison mark build

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Seems quite good

balmy coral
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I mean- there's a reason we hated that ziping curio last season

restive wraith
lone umbra
restive wraith
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I get 0 ice jade for the new build, Im soooo sad

lone umbra
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On par with ice surge Matari_Pepe_Laugh

balmy coral
restive wraith
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:0

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why so

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I looked at the table you posted it only want windfall x6

lone umbra
restive wraith
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am I missing something

lone umbra
restive wraith
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Im happy

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wait.... do I even need mod

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F....

balmy coral
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as per zero it needs 8 wfs 4 mods

lone umbra
balmy coral
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poison seal only needs 6

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thunder needs 8

restive wraith
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:0

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am I cooked

lone umbra
restive wraith
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also @lone umbra i will need your help with speedrun when It is playable :c I dont even have a duo

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duck is nowhere to be found (he said he will be back soon tho) and red (my other duo back then) arent playing showdown as much anymore

fierce light
balmy coral
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Ngl the last stage of Doom is quite a challenge I loved it

restive wraith
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oh the 2 bosses?

balmy coral
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Ye

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Had to use Justina to clear it

restive wraith
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I legit tried to solo it, get 2 stars and... random queue here we go -> 3

restive wraith
balmy coral
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I solo-ed I couldn't wait to Que

restive wraith
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I just use viper since I have the build designed for her

balmy coral
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I needed the crystal from BP

restive wraith
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one aegis break -> full heal

balmy coral
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Currently still good

restive wraith
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I leveling her rn, let see

balmy coral
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Ice surge is her build

restive wraith
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her ult feel weird to me tho, sometime the animation is so buggy

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they clearly stand in the ult but take no damage

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or my pc just trolling me

balmy coral
balmy coral
restive wraith
balmy coral
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Prolly there's an inch of error or smth

balmy coral
lone umbra
balmy coral
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and still now

lone umbra
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Until curio

balmy coral
restive wraith
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ah nice, that pretty good

lone umbra
balmy coral
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ummm that's a long time yk

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It's only October

lone umbra
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In Yama scorch and ice surge gonna rule and ranged

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So no point in investing in mark build

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Just had base setup

balmy coral
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mmmm

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I want to see it

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I'm 3 wfs away from thunder scorch

restive wraith
balmy coral
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@restive wraith if u wannw we can run later 1:30 am

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nirriti hard

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I won't run ns/legen

restive wraith
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why are you recommend me it lol

balmy coral
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It's always faster to have someone to party

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3 mins run '

restive wraith
balmy coral
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as long as u run it fast

restive wraith
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Im 1 hr behind rip I always sleep at 11pm :c

balmy coral
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welp next time.

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I'm asleep at daylight

restive wraith
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but yea I do hard a lot too, where is my ice jadeeeee

restive wraith
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back then I was all night try hard yama tho

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was fun

dusty wharf
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good thing they introduced the legend jade

dusty wharf
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now we can get the required rare also

restive wraith
rotund forge
balmy coral
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The after class alcohol

dusty wharf
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I got scorching 12 times in a row

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after that I left it

rotund forge
dusty wharf
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now they bring the legend jade

rotund forge
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i would have fed that souljade

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if 12 fumble

dusty wharf
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so I'm gonna try imbuing one more time

rotund forge
dusty wharf
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and if they give mod on that one

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I'm leaving dawg

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u playing rn ?

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@rotund forge

rotund forge
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No gotta go out now

dusty wharf
spiral kernel
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Akos build was cooked by cn already?

dusty wharf
#

mela ?

rotund forge
fierce light
dusty wharf
rotund forge
#

Only food

dusty wharf
rotund forge
dusty wharf
dusty wharf
#

silicon city bast**d

rotund forge
spiral kernel
#

Mmmm guys

dusty wharf
rotund forge
#

Traffic like ass

spiral kernel
#

We got akos build?

dusty wharf
dusty wharf
rotund forge
#

I don't even wanna go to the city

dusty wharf
#

@balmy coral whts the akos build ?

spiral kernel
dusty wharf
#

if he replies ask him

spiral kernel
#

@balmy coral can i have 1 serve of cooked akos build pls?

dusty wharf
#

bro

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don't mention again

#

he might be busy

balmy coral
rotund forge
#

It's there

dusty wharf
rotund forge
#

Some thunderbird spell

spiral kernel
dusty wharf
#

I tried that

rotund forge
spiral kernel
#

Its not tasty

rotund forge
#

It showed

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Poison

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Bro

dusty wharf
fierce light
rotund forge
#

But I think they put right build

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For akos

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Valda

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And ice builds

spiral kernel
#

So i want to finally eat what was cooked

balmy coral
spiral kernel
dusty wharf
#

when u wrote by any change I got confused

fierce light
#

We got Verve Banner for Surge and Wordless Sutra for Chain Crush last season.

#

All the General Curios for Lotus the season before.

dusty wharf
#

@spiral kernel ask these guyz

balmy coral
spiral kernel
#

@fierce light yo dark can i have 1 serving of akos build pls

fierce light
#

Oh, Dedicated Curios seem more intended to be standalone.

balmy coral
#

that makes sense

fierce light
spiral kernel
spiral kernel
#

Also potential plan?

rotund forge
#

And dodge

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Or counter

#

I think

fierce light
#

It's all on the site

spiral kernel
rotund forge
#

*blue tree

lone umbra
rotund forge
#

Yea last season thunder was green

spiral kernel
#

@lone umbra oh wait neel

rotund forge
#

Got confused

spiral kernel
#

U got the cn stuff u talked about?

#

Its been 1-2weeks

balmy coral
#

I mean- I wanna make sure Matari_Pepe_Laugh

fierce light
#

Yes, won't work otherwise.

balmy coral
#

got it

fierce light
#

Did a bit of testing of how much total dmg coefficient you need to charge Thundershock from Thunderpull instantly at different Wieldings and Thunderproof.

  • Mainly focused on 0-1 Wielding with and without Thunderproof.
  • Looks like Thunder Scorch can charge up its Thundershock ~36% faster than Thunder Scorch Surge.
  • So as long as you can pull off around 4 Scorchings per Surge, it should do more than regular Thunder Scorch.
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I could get a more precise margin, but for now that was my main concern.

cursive fable
#

@fierce light nice github page

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didnt know your a SWE! thats amazing

#

i saw the chinese guild recommends this build for posion arrow

#

5/6 of the jade is the same as your recommended set, the other one is the posion one instead of backfire

fierce light
#

Could work for the quicker fights, but I don't see it doing more than Backfire in the long run

#

Toxin Blast every 2 Poison Blasts instead of 3.

  • +4800% Attack every ~18s to ~12s.
  • +2.67% Attack/s to +4% Attack/s.

Void Destroyer does 1401% | 1914% Attack/s depending on if you skip the 1st stage of charge or not.

  • Backfire increases total Attack by roughly 8.6% at max build.

Total Increases
From Noxious Blast:

  • 19.14 + 2.67 = 21.81 to 19.14 + 4 = 23.14 equals a 6.09% increase.
    From Backfire:
  • 19.14 + 2.67 = 21.81 to 21.81 × 1.086 = 23.68 equals a 8.6% increase.
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I guess if you're solo though and get frequently interrupted, Noxious Blast would be better.

dusty wharf
north lynx
#

He does

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It's very good information too

balmy coral
#

Holy shi- 2 windfalls in under 50 rerolls. Then I got the unwanted scorching lol

fickle linden
#

whatcha buildin

balmy coral
#

I already got enough scorching just missing 3 wfs

fierce light
#

Interesting, Old Kylin build feels pretty good in this stage compared to Thunder Surge Scorch.

bronze wharf
violet basin
#

I just tried a full lotus build and I’m 99% sure somethings bugged

#

It’s taking waaaay too long to summon a lotus in astral 2, haven’t tried in enigma or anywhere else yet

#

It’s the potential tree not the mods cuz I get more damage with lotuses on but specced into chain crush tree

plain spire
#

Because of the potential tree where you need to summon a lotus first for the elemental accumulation 40% to work kinda sucks

fierce light
#

Yeah they nerfed Lotus builds so hard not only making it reliant on having a Lotus summoned, but also reduced it from 50% to 40% elemental accumulation bonus.

#

I'd only recommend Ice Lotus on Ziping and maybe Akos atm. That's if you already had one built as it's a waste to build it now.

violet basin
#

What about wu

fierce light
#

Wuchen's accumulation rate is especially bad cause of his reliance on his Aegis-break Skill for DPS. He'd like one of the new Poison builds.

violet basin
#

Hmmmmm

#

He’s really gone downhill, I remember when he dropped he was badass

fierce light
#

All they had to do was add a potential node that boosts the accumulation of Aegis-break Skills like they used to and he'd be great

violet basin
#

Very true

#

Well looks like it’s ranged build or nothing now

north lynx
#

Wuchen is either thunder scorch or swarm

fierce light
#

Yeah, Swarm is pretty decent though. Only 2nd behind Bow.

north lynx
#

Wuchens parry counterattack is really strong for the surgeless build, hitting the double scorching is very smooth

#

And as far as wuchen vs tianhai for swarm, you can ult with wu and it not interrupt your deadeye gameplan

#

So he's probably the goto swarmer

shrewd basin
#

Is it even worth atp to 3 boss enigma? Or full clear? Purpkey

north lynx
#

I mean

fierce light
#

Wonder if they'll add some Deadeye interaction for his Ult like they did for Feria and Valda

north lynx
#

Technically yes

north lynx
fierce light
#

3 Boss Clear the 2nd best option behind triple Gold Keys.

#

But Enigma Peak still going to be better for it, but Purple Keys are a plenty.

shrewd basin
#

I’m good on crystals need frags

north lynx
#

Ye you are now

#

But later in the season we always run out

violet basin
#

These gold bells are the dumbest shxt ever

#

How do u stop them from jumping and wasting 10 seconds

north lynx
#

If you stock up on crystals and just do peak when it comes out

#

You should never be down on them

#

Idk ig it depends on if you have an early build or not

shrewd basin
north lynx
#

If you don't, yeah you can do 3 key purp

shrewd basin
#

Currently 5s 4m 1w

north lynx
#

5s? Rookie numbers go for 8s

shrewd basin
#

Probably gonna change the mods when I can

north lynx
#

🗿

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Yeah if you need a build 3 keys is good for frags

#

I'm stocking up on crystals, except for doing forest peril tech

#

Figure peak will drain my crystals when it comes and i have like 4 viable builds

shrewd basin
#

Not loving that manti is back in boss rotation

fierce light
#

They love adding time wasting mechanics.

violet basin
#

Just got 1 min flat with wu hybrid of chain crush potential tree and lotus tree

#

I think that’s decent, idk what peoples times are clearing with swarm build tho

fierce light
#

Unless you're somehow activating Surge, you don't wanna go too deep into Red path. Lotus always wants the -Root node at the top of Green path, otherwise, it loses significant damage (if you have elemental damage attributes).

violet basin
#

Seep, chain, surge, pesti pool, ghastbloom and tox lotus

fierce light
#

Yeah, they made Chain Crush and Blossom Blast builds conflict with each other.

#

You can hybrid them with Mark though.

violet basin
#

Fack, might have to make the new build then

#

That’s just a lot of work

fierce light
#

1m does sound decent though

#

Would just have to replace Toxified Chain, or replace Toxified Lotus + Ghastbloom.

violet basin
#

Next 2 times here are 2:10 and 2:17

#

But they suck

north lynx
#

You can only sorta hybrid into element surge with lotus

#

Chain is p much a no go

north lynx
#

I just haven't bothered to take it yet

#

Early times don't matter

fierce light
#

Wow

#

Swarm is pretty bad for mobbing

shrewd basin
north lynx
#

You have to run Pestilent build, and you also kinda have to spread shots

shrewd basin
#

Bruh I tired of these ghost shots

north lynx
#

Dead eye move is very single target

shrewd basin
#

Crosshairs on mark and still miss

north lynx
#

Pretty sure it's an fps issue

shrewd basin
north lynx
#

There's documentation of shots firing faster the more fps you have, and high fps players don't have issues with landing shots like low ones do

shrewd basin
#

Doesn’t help the musket cross hair is off centered

fierce light
fierce light
#

Would explain why my shots felt a lot more reliable when I was on my gaming laptop.

north lynx
#

A work in progress fix video from naraka

#

But it kinda showcases the ranged speed thing

#

(This work in progress fix was a bust btw lol)

#

Mind you this is also not quite accurate as it doesnt exactly account for lows and fps instability

#

so its actually allot worse !

#

This also translates in showdown unfortunately. For the most part it doesn't matter but it'll be a deciding factor in yamas times

#

and ofc if you play ranged

#

you'll notice it

north lynx
#

(You'll also notice the 400 fps gamers ping is 4 compared to the 30 fps gamers 34, aint that a cool feature, that your fps directly lowers your in game ping/ms)

fierce light
#

Yeah, noticed it with the Yueshan runs last season

#

They were moving like they had a speed boost

#

For that reason I stopped bothering competing with PC times

north lynx
#

Its gets really ridiculous with the 400+ gamers

north lynx
#

Really only PlayStation is a competitively viable platform, which is really funny

fierce light
#

Yeah, Xbox leaderboard is my limit, but tbh there's not many trying on it.

#

Or they do try, but their builds aren't near complete.

dusty wharf
#

Did u guyz check the new discord quest

zealous patrol
#

Bro?

shrewd basin
#

Hacks

#

Clearly

#

Also for TS do I want 6x health?
Or just attack boss and divine?

fierce light
dusty wharf
#

and divine

#

health can be compensated

#

just need a ziping yin in the party

zealous patrol
#

bro....

dusty wharf
#

_ _

shrewd basin
#

Bro got bombarded

dusty wharf
#

why everyone reacting question mark

#

wht so complicated

zealous patrol
#

u know what TS is right

dusty wharf
#

I mistook it for TI

#

mb

zealous patrol
#

XD

shrewd basin
dusty wharf
zealous patrol
#

Thunder scorch

dusty wharf
#

I thought thunder surge

zealous patrol
#

4 scorching 8 windfall

#

Hp atk

#

can replace a few attack with parry heal

shrewd basin
#

Welp I have 5s 1w 4m XD

zealous patrol
#

I have 8 wf 4 s on mine

shrewd basin
#

Rng not my fren

zealous patrol
#

I got 2 defuse heal and 2 parry heal cause I scared

zealous patrol
#

😭

shrewd basin
dusty wharf
rotund forge
dusty wharf
#

discord quest

rotund forge
#

whats that

dusty wharf
#

for 12 days

rotund forge
#

Tianhai_Pepe_Hmm i dont see anything

dusty wharf
#

free n i t r o

#

for 12 days

exotic canopy
#

can u not say nitro

dusty wharf
#

try writing

#

also write free before it

#

cause only nitro ain't fishy

#

but adding free makes it fishy

#

for dc

viscid wraith
exotic canopy
dusty wharf
#

it's for everyone

#

u guyz can also get 12 days nitro

#

check the newest quest at quest home

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and do it

#

u get 5k orbs

#

go to orbs special and buy the 3 days nitro credit

#

it's 1400 mybe

heavy shoal
#

Im trying to recast this, i got it to the rare attribute (the one at the top) (it was pity timer), and now it says on the website i need to manually recast attribute, but do i click anything specific or just do it until it hits? Cause that roll seems very low, am i doing it wrong

drifting lanceBOT
#

🎉 | frezz. leveled up!

dusty wharf
#

u get the attributes and first rare from reroll

#

then 2nd rare from imbuing

heavy shoal
#

But i select

#

what i wannt?

#

Is there weights in the game

#

like are some attributes rarer than others

#

e.g. if the whole pool is 1000 weight, is ice blast dmg weighted like 2, while dmg to astral aegis is weighted 10 or is everything same chance?

#

also i cant see windfall on the list

#

does it go by another name

#

or am i blind

#

I got moderation from recasting, but its the wrong one, how do i change it to windfall?

heavy shoal
#

Manual

#

or auto

#

?

dusty wharf
#

select the ones u want

#

u get the attributes and first rare from recasting

#

and to get 2nd rare

#

u recast for rare attribute on another jade

#

get flux jade shard

#

once u have 2 of those

#

u imbue the 2nd rare

heavy shoal
#

But what if i only need 1 rare attribute

rotund forge
#

Then recast it again and try ur luck

heavy shoal
#

i assume windfall

rotund forge
heavy shoal
#

is rare

#

and rest is not?

rotund forge
#

No

#

All 3 are rare

#

But the right one u need

#

Is rarest

heavy shoal
#

huh

#

what is rare

#

is dmmg to bosses rare?

#

im the goatg

plain spire
#

Rare is RED attribute Windfall,Moderation, Scorching

heavy shoal
#

70 rerolls in total

#

3 of the things i want

#

since im only missing 1 thing

#

that is not rare

#

cant i just use auto recast and choose the one i need?

dusty wharf
plain spire
#

Recast another jade that's part of the jade set you're building at max recast (60 recast) you can choose your desired normal attributes. Recasting that will just be a waste of resources.

dusty wharf
#

this is the guide

#

if u don't understand something ask

heavy shoal
#

When u recast a jade

#

does the stat keep its % value, or is it random

#

cause i had a jade recast thrice into 2% (out of 10%) and 1% (out of 4%) and 1.25% (out of 5%)

hidden creek
#

recast from normal stats keep its value, recast from rare stats gives random stat and random value

heavy shoal
#

Ah ok

#

makes sense

heavy shoal
#

How do u get shrouded jade fast

rotund forge
bold ice
heavy shoal
#

im already lvl 89

bold ice
heavy shoal
#

i farmed so much

rotund forge
#

Lvl 100

bold ice
#

grind doesnt stop with lvl

lone umbra
calm kestrel
# heavy shoal cause i had a jade recast thrice into 2% (out of 10%) and 1% (out of 4%) and 1....

Recasting from a rare has a 50/50 chance to be random value or value of 70% or higher every cast.

To keep your high value from a rare you don’t want, hit the single recast, make sure it uses the random value, then auto recast with the specific stat you want. That won’t guarantee the stat, but it will guarantee the value being 70% or higher.

If it the auto recast lands on a stat you don’t want, but the value is high, rinse and repeat the process above; single recast to get rid of the random low value, and auto roll for the high value.

bold ice
#

ive gotten a rare from catchup 2 weeks ago i think

calm kestrel
#

@heavy shoal You can also use the steps I gave above to use your free pity to guarantee high value from a rare.

smoky light
#

Can anyone help with mama's abyss im stuck at gold 2

#

Yamas*

plain spire
smoky light
plain spire
#

what's your id?

smoky light
#

6288100020174

#

@plain spire

plain spire
#

You're not in SEA

#

you can jump in SEA / return login interface

smoky light
#

Ok switched

plain spire
#

a moment im in my alt account i'll switch to main

smoky light
#

Ok thanks a bunch

plain spire
plain spire
smoky light
#

Yeah

#

@plain spire average levels too low

#

No any way to level faster?

plain spire
#

lets try lobby

#

if it allow us

plain spire
smoky light
#

@plain spire I dm you so were not blowing up chat

sonic edge
#

I finally got to solar 2 on Justina

hidden creek
#

opop

fierce light
soft pelican
#

element surge seems like the kind of gem i want to reroll into something nice first bc i can change its element to fit about any build right?

fierce light
#

It's used in a lot of builds yeah, but I'd recommend making multiple instead.

fierce light
#

Got the elusive sub 3 minute run.

heavy shoal
north lynx
#

So if you have a battle zone clearing quest it doesn't count

fickle linden
#

i think he means do you get less cards going straight to boss than clearing levels normally

fierce light
north lynx
#

Oh

#

Yeah 2 rings it's not less. Just less codex and less coins

cobalt torrent
#

2 rings and a shop is available

smoky light
#

Anyone free to help me with some morus isle missions

dusty wharf
smoky light
#

@dusty wharf NA

dusty wharf
#

I don't see one person in SEA

smoky light
fickle linden
#

SEA have their own discord channels

dusty wharf
dusty wharf
#

flashy shit

dusty wharf
#

I can come rn if u want

smoky light
#

@dusty wharf thanks 1 sec switching now

dusty wharf
#

I forgot to eat dinner

#

I gtg or my mom will kill me

smoky light
#

@dusty wharf lol all good

dusty wharf
#

I will msg u when I'm back

smoky light
#

Bet

shrewd basin
dusty wharf
smoky light
dusty wharf
#

10583600040168

#

my id

balmy coral
shrewd basin
shrewd basin
dusty wharf
shrewd basin
#

Blessy has always had that curse

#

They were born with it

balmy coral
sonic edge
#

I hate these jade drop chance I’m tried of facing manticore

limpid pecan
fierce light
#

Really hope they're considering improving the existing content.

#

Kinda pointless to have all these missions, but only 2-3 are ran cause they're the only ones worth considering.

heavy shoal
#

Does anyone know how u optimally play Akos/Kylin/Matari in Showdown? I have a hard time grasping what exactly is there deal (e.g. i know how ziping works, u want elemental dmg on her and u can abuse multi defuses)

#

but these guys are mystery to me

north lynx
#

If stoneform wasn't rng

#

It wouldn't matter

limpid pecan
#

the miniultimate is cancer too

#

and the big one also

north lynx
#

Big ones fine

#

Something being hard isn't bad design choice

#

It's something that screws up speedruns to rng

#

Thats bad design

limpid pecan
#

o ye something like

north lynx
#

So stoneform

limpid pecan
#

it runs away

#

backwards

#

or doesnt wanna move

#

it was funny how in tempered inferno

#

u could kill mobs

#

and manticore would be just perma stuck

#

running away

#

last season they upgraded this

#

so every boss

#

runs away

#

instead of coming close

#

also we didnt even experience

#

full cringeness of manticore

#

because they added curios

#

imagine they didnt

#

like in deepwood

fierce light
# heavy shoal Does anyone know how u optimally play Akos/Kylin/Matari in Showdown? I have a ha...

Akos Hu

Outside of Ultimate

  • Standard Rotation:
    Hold Horizontal → Dodge → Release Horizontal → Hold Vertical → Dodge → Release Vertical

Move Names = Wild Sweep → Cloudweaver → Wild Sweep → Aegis-break Skill
Inside of Ultimate

  • Standard Rotation:
    Jump → Tap Vertical

Move Names = Tiger Leap → Aegis-break Skill
Notes

  • Defuse Prowess Tier 2 gives Akos a huge jump in DPS from his Aegis-break Skills.

Kylin Zhang

Outside of Ultimate

  • Standard Rotation:
    1st Stage Vertical

Move Name = Twin Slash

  • Mobbing Attack:
    2nd Stage Vertical

Move Name = Aurora Burst
Inside of Ultimate

  • No Thunder Surge Rotation:
    Charged Vertical/Horizontal

Move Name = Charged Qilin Slash

  • Thunder Surge Rotation:
    Parry Divine Thunder → Tap Vertical/Horizontal

Move Name = Parry → Wrath Slash
Notes

  • You can use his Skill whenever Elemental Burst is off cooldown for some quick accumulation.

Matari

Standard Rotation:
Skill → Tap Horizontal x2 → Dodge → Tap Horizontal x2 → Dodge → Tap Horizontal x2 → Dodge → Tap Horizontal x2

Move Names = Flash → Dancing Leaves x8
Notes

  • Ideally you use her Skill whenever her Flash buff expires, but if you're using a non-Ice build you'll have some down time. Dreadful Wail (Tap Vertical twice after a Dagger Dash) is your next best option of attack.
fierce light
#

Oh damn

north lynx
left fjord
#

1 Person free to help me finish the doom mode ? XD cant do the last one alone i can't handle 2 Boss sadly

sonic edge
#

Akos hu feels sooo clunky to me idk why it’s hard to combo with those fist blades unlike wuchen or viper Ning

left fjord
#

well nvm i found someone

fierce light
#

He has awkward end-lag on his attacks.

sonic edge
left fjord
#

I found someone to help me already XD so now i do Enigma domain

#

started to farm showdown like 2-3d ago

#

but i had limit even alone lol

whole rover
#

Best combo enters game watches match eats popcorn lure 6 teams to fight each other get another popcorn if you are able to get invisible do so and enjoy the show

#

Dis-moi pourquoi j'ai voyagé jusqu'à Paris, la ville de l'amour, juste pour la perdre. Je lui ai apporté une maison et une nouvelle voiture. Maintenant je suis tellement brisé.

north lynx
#

Well

#

Those were words

soft pelican
#

dementia hits hard

calm kestrel
fierce light
calm kestrel
fierce light