👾┃showdown

[fierce light]

Your account just levels from playing.

3/2/1 is ideal as you want them to proc at different times.

Aquatic Prison applies Soak when an Elemental Burst occurs, which makes Scorching pretty useful even in his ultimate.

You recast them as you would before. The rating just gives an idea of how high the %'s are on that Souljade.

[river canopy]

anyone else getting account error 211 out of the sudden? threw me out in the middle of a game ...

[normal galleon]

this is like my 7th moderation on the same build

why game

wants to make me change from the old build no matter what I swear

[fierce light]

Lotus and Chain Crush don't really work well together with the new potential tree.

[rotund forge]

☠️

[sonic edge]

Yall is Yushan good?

[tardy rune]

а все

[calm kestrel]

The jade?

[sonic edge]

The hero

[fierce light]

He's decent. Relatively strong charged attacks and a high damaging skill. Ultimate gives a sizable boost to his DPS as well, especially with Moderation

[north lynx]

The defuse thing looks fun on him

not very good compared to t scorch but

[fierce light]

Could be competitive in solo, since it shreds Aegis and can do double damage while boss's it's broken.

[fierce light]

Just realized with Defuse Prowess Tier 2, Akos's Martial Skill during his Ult hits harder than Yueshan's Skill in his Ult.

[turbid agate]

I like Akos but he feels weird lol. I feel like he was made to play w thunder build

I used him with a thunder lotus build in enigma and it actually did damage and was super fun to play.

Idk how good it would be once fully set up and what not

[sonic edge]

Can anyone help me with ominous descent nightscream

I rlly hate this boss

[grim girder]

What's the frost build this season?

[viscid wraith]

it's still frost surge/skill surge

[grim girder]

What potential branch is better, Lotus or Surge?

[balmy coral]

It depends on your build not which one is better

[viscid wraith]

Depends, if you're using Ice lotus chain (ILC) go for lotus. Surge when you're using surge-related jades

[lone umbra]

ice lotus chain is not that recommended

either ice lotus or ice surge

no mix and match

[heavy shoal]

is elemental accumulation based on dmg dealt, or based on instances of dmg dealt or something different? (by the 2nd one i mean, if u do a loit of multi hits, does it stack it faster than big dmg with blue/gold focus attacks)

[hidden creek]

each attack got their own element accumulation value

that can't be affected by anything else but element accumulation rate

so increase your output won't make elemental blasts happens earlier

[heavy shoal]

but is it tested if light attacks or blue releases are the fastest?

[hidden creek]

blue is higher ofc

[heavy shoal]

yes sure its for sure higher accumulation

but its also slower

im asking how do u proc it the fastest

[hidden creek]

still faster compare to doing lights

[heavy shoal]

ok

thanks

[hidden creek]

depends on hero and build

[heavy shoal]

well idk anything aobut showdown

all i was told

[hidden creek]

cuz skills also got high element accumulation rate

[heavy shoal]

is spam niriti

and then the recommended builds

inm the client

[hidden creek]

well check out pinned posts

and @fierce light 's site

also on pinned

[heavy shoal]

in here?

[hidden creek]

yeah this channel

pinned posts

[heavy shoal]

ah i looked at the site shortly

just fconfusing

[hidden creek]

well you'll get used to it

after awhile

ig

[heavy shoal]

but what is it used for

[hidden creek]

if you got questions just ask here

[hidden creek]

what is used for?

[heavy shoal]

Yes

showdown build tracker

u need to put in jades right to get stats?

[hidden creek]

that's the quick calculation

the site i'm referring to

is this one

https://dark-zer0.github.io/Showdown/

[heavy shoal]

ah

ok

havent seen that

is it linked?=

ah its a small link is ee

I dont see this on the title screen

is it removed

What is moderation

Also the builds on the websites are they updated (I see they use the old trees)

((potential))

[balmy coral]

These are the new builds along with parse and attributes.

u can ask dark later for which potential to go to for a certain build u want to pursue.

[balmy coral]

For every Element burst it resets your skill at a certain %

[heavy shoal]

so partial of the cooldown is refunded?

also element burst is when ur element gets filled with acumulation correct?

[balmy coral]

Yes

[heavy shoal]

where is this on the website?

[balmy coral]

Essentially, u want 4 mods maxed at 25% for a total of 100%

[heavy shoal]

also is there a way to get curios? I see its from termpered inferno, but that is disabled until next year

[balmy coral]

Yes, u can check pins for a certain timeframe. Changes may vary

[heavy shoal]

What is skill surge and compared to element surge?

[heavy shoal]

where is this

[balmy coral]

Skill surge is Ice surge but with one jade with Poison element in it.

[heavy shoal]

Ok

but on the bow build in that msg u send

"bow miasma"

it doesxnt say

[balmy coral]

I don't use bow can't help u with that

[heavy shoal]

No

but

ont he list

it doesnst say

whjat wielding u should have

[river stratus]

element surge on poison wielding is must

other jades can be different wieding

[heavy shoal]

But if the bulk of the dmg is from the poison blast

wouldnt it be the best

to be

6 poison wield?=

[river stratus]

no your main dmg is not poison blast

you do rought dmg with this, also the toxic explosion scale with dmg to boss

[finite gull]

@fierce light-sensei I am missing 0,1% ice blast dmg got 8x windfall and 30% on all jades have you seen this before? 394,9%

[north lynx]

Ice does more

Only really need 1 to 2 poisen welding

It's almost always doesn't really matter tho tbh

[heavy shoal]

Ok

but what do u do on preparationt hen

does that also no matter?=

I assumed u go for everything thats relevant to element surge

[round glacier]

For swarm do you use full poison wielding and poison potential?

[river stratus]

on potential you want more ranged weapon dmg as possible and the atk buff from surge state

[balmy coral]

u can insert dead eye too

but make sure it's at least maxed out

[amber terrace]

i need this on PC

[fierce light]

It's based on the DMG Coefficient of the attack.

• Viper's Stage 1 Horizontal and her Skill have a damage coefficient of 4.84 and 9.00 respectively.
• It'll take roughly double the amount of Stage 1 Horizontals to activate an Elemental Burst than her Skill.

Different enemy types have different Element Thresholds as well.

• Mob without Aegis = 9.67
• Spawn-type Mobs (Warlocks) = 29.01
• Mob with Aegis = 39.90
• Bosses = 39.90

Once the total dmg coefficient exceeds that threshold, it will cause an Elemental Burst. Elemental Accumulation Rate multiplies on top of that DMG Coefficient. So Essence Accumulation for example in the potential would multiply by 1.4, allowing Viper's Skill to one hit Burst mobs without Aegis.
-# 9.00 × 1.4 = 12.60 > 9.67

[fierce light]

Uncharged attacks generally have lower DMG Coefficients (except Matari's Aegis-break with Flash buff) than charged attacks.

[fierce light]

The build tracker is for tracking your recasting progression, by seeing how close to your goal you are.

[fierce light]

It's on the mission select screen.

[fierce light]

For Bow's Poison Surge build, you go 1/1/4, Ice-Wielding/Thunder-Wielding/Poison-Wielding. Make sure Element Surge is Poison-Wielding.

[fierce light]

Yeah it's an annoying bug. One of your Ice Blasts was really close to 100% max that it shows as 30%, despite it not being. Can't do anything about it either.

[fierce light]

Swarm can go full Poison or 1/1/4 as well. Elemental DMG makes up a small portion of Ranged Build's damage. Main thing is being able to activate Pestilent Pool in a reasonable amount of time.

[round glacier]

It activates pretty quick

Gonna go 4-1-1

[balmy coral]

Mobile?

[soft pelican]

is there a recommended generic build like ice last season?

[round glacier]

Last season build still doing well i believe

Should wait till they are done testing before committing to a new build

[soft pelican]

whats the fastest way to farm showdown level? niriti spam?

[fierce light]

Ice Surge still the recommended generic build.

Ice Lotus got its accumulation nerfed and Ice Seal relies too heavily on Mark to do meaningful damage.

[soft pelican]

damn kinda hoping to see thunder being the new element or sth

i mean i guess i can just play thunder counter

[fierce light]

@novel shell confirmed this works:

1. Find the jade that is giving ~29.9% Ice Blast DMG by unequipping them one by one.
2. Convert that Ice Blast DMG to Luck or Armor.
3. Use Recast Value to increase it to max.
4. Convert it back into Ice Blast DMG.

[fierce light]

Thunder Scorch builds are the current strongest, but mainly for bossing. Thunder Mark builds look promising, but more so for solo bossing.

[amber terrace]

yes

[balmy coral]

rip

[lone umbra]

Thunder mark looks so promising. But if there was only way to activate mark faster
Justina F shreds aegis. Lot of fun Playing that

[exotic canopy]

whos this for super cute

[fierce light]

3 dodges isn't that terrible, but it can be in Trios when you don't have aggro.

[rich surge]

what kind of builds are these dudes running

[magic prairie]

Click the icon on right to see

[north lynx]

Probably the musket scorch

Valda has a char specific build for it

It gets invalidated because her curio is >>>>

But for early season it's great

Mine was 19 secs, and I'm missing a scorching and a mod

[fierce light]

Scorching build. I got 17s on Tessa with it.

Just go in, use your Skill for Skilled Attack Chant, boss throws a blue, you parry it and apply Scorching. That's 1st phase dead.

2nd phase doesn't throw as many blues, but your Thundershock should be full enough by then to reapply it from that.

[quaint girder]

Can I get help to clear Doom?

On NA?

[river stratus]

i can help

[quaint girder]

Thnx

ID is 1867400000164

[fierce light]

Dang you always ask the second I step away lol

[fierce light]

Lol they brought back Blue Moon with the new Poison build. https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1yUnozBE9W/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click&vd_source=e436bcf4333345077b464ebf0fc7cf19

[viscid wraith]

waow blue moon

[amber terrace]

Wow, long time

[fierce light]

It looks like it's still slightly too fast for the cooldown of Miasma Boon

Still good for the bonus accumulation though.

[lone umbra]

Ye if boss is not aggro then only it is terrible... And in trios ping it is risky move

[heavy shoal]

and what exactly is the benefit of 1 1 4

[heavy shoal]

where

clicking eye icon gives this instead

[hidden creek]

sense/enhancement level was removed
now it's just showdown level

with level 100 being the max

[heavy shoal]

so i need

lvl 100

to get best jades?

or does lvl not matter

ui just need to reroll them

[hidden creek]

level increase your stats

you get jades from spending fatigue

you spend fatigue by clearing stages that consume fatigue

''best jades'' drops from harder stages

[gaunt meadow]

Can someone share temulch build bow or higher dps build

[hidden creek]

it's on recommended tab, in game

[gaunt meadow]

A lot of ppl use bow build cause higher dps right

[hidden creek]

for temulch atm bow build is the highest dps build

[gaunt meadow]

Thx for the explain mate

[signal kite]

[north lynx]

If we ignore thunder scorch being universally op on everyone

[hidden creek]

doubt that it can out dps bow on temulch

since his F is dumb

[lone umbra]

hero itself is dump without bow

[sonic edge]

Does this game allow like a taxi for harder stages to get jades

[hidden creek]

absolutely no problem with it

[north lynx]

0 issues, getting carried today, carry someone else the next day when you got gear

It's much more efficient to do that tbh

[balmy coral]

Getting that carry is the issue.

Now that I notice. Nirriti is becoming bearable as long as I don't get stuck in the loading screen like before.

[sonic edge]

My sever so dead I waited for a whole hour and a half to do that shitty night scream boss and still no one 😭😭

[lusty bramble]

Whats viper and yoto best souljades builds in showdown

[hidden creek]

viper probably run ice surge
as for yoto, without curio she's one of the weakest hero, not worth to use

[sonic edge]

Wuchen feels nice but I’m running toxin but the accumulation feels slower than on Kylin I think that’s his name

Same jades

[hidden creek]

wuchen skill doesn't do damages or element accumulation, kylin's does

so ofc kylin can proc elemental blast faster than wuchen

[sonic edge]

I like kylin but his L2 feels rlly clunky to be honest

[balmy coral]

For yoto she had a dedicated build with her curio. Might worth an investment again when 2nd phase comes out.

Currently, like tabbie said she's useless.

[north lynx]

Wuchen is very good with t scorch and swarm

His dodges and parry counter attack are very easy with t scorch

You don't have to use thunder charge with him

[fierce light]

You'll deal slightly more Elemental damage as each Wielding gives +1/7th, the 1st Wielding gives +2/7ths.

[fierce light]

Oh you're trying to look for the sense cap? That's no longer a thing it's just Showdown Level which is account wide.

[fierce light]

Tbh, if you don't get a parry start, Bow should be able to Out DPS Thunder Scorch.

• Scorching Lv. 12 doing 5400% Attack
• Void Destroyer doing 4625% Attack

You can get a much higher DMG Bonus than Burn can since

• 15% Health only equals +4.5% Burn DMG Bonus.
• Bow can get +5% DMG to Bosses & +5% Ranged Weapon DMG.

Even when accounting for the 1.4 multiplier from Potential Tree, it becomes around +6.3% Burn DMG Bonus per jade vs +10% DMG Bonus for Bow.

[fierce light]

No one public queues chapter missions as there's too many of them and most just run Nirriti's Ruins Nightscream for the new jades.

[fierce light]

Viper should be pretty good on a Thunder Scorch build. The initial hit on her Counterstrike is pretty quick, allowing her to use either one comfortably.
Thunder Scorch (original)
-# Good for quick fights, where no more than 3 Scorchings are needed.

• Thunderpull, Thunder Counter, Thunderproof, Draco Stride, Incineration, & Copper Ward.
  Thunder Scorch Surge
  -# Good for long fights where you can benefit from repeating applications of Scorching.
• Thunderpull, Thunder Counter, Element Surge, Thunder Charge, Draco Stride & Incineration.

Yoto should be good on Thunder Scorch builds as well, but her Counterstrike is a little on the slow side and her overall attacks are clunky, which can make both builds feel uncomfortable.

[sonic edge]

Oooh I always get a stage 10 and then die to the boss

I’ve been farming hard mode to get the enchantment level up

[fierce light]

Yeah it can be a little rough with a small collection and low level Fire Forge.

[sonic edge]

It’s a shame no one runs chapters tho I quite like them well some off them

I hate the defence missions tho

[round glacier]

Who best to clear new boss on NS?

[viscid wraith]

Depends on your build imo. Though as usual, you can bruteforce Agnivat with Ziping Yin.

[round glacier]

Never mind ziping goated lol

First try lmao

[viscid wraith]

Congrats lol

[round glacier]

Tnx whahha

Better fight then thar stupid lion whatever thing

[civic canyon]

Damn i cant find the boss

That steps on me

I think she is called Mother of Yushan or something

[sonic edge]

What’s NS

[chilly kestrel]

nightscream

[sonic edge]

Oh

[plucky night]

Can some1 explain how to do the low hp challenge in Nirriti? I was at 10%, cleared a couple stages but it doesn't count at all.

[rotund forge]

U completed all the fatigue?

[chilly kestrel]

nope. im at 1980 or something

[rotund forge]

Bro what

I'm still at 598

when u even played

[chilly kestrel]

bro

[chilly kestrel]

one time i played from noon till night with diff people

[rotund forge]

how u even play till that many hrs

[chilly kestrel]

dont worry abt it

[rotund forge]

I barely do 1 hr

[chilly kestrel]

u were busy rifting that day

[chilly kestrel]

wanna play tomorrow?

[rotund forge]

Alright

[rotund forge]

idk some random peeps invite me just when I login

From where do they even invite

[chilly kestrel]

block their ass

[rotund forge]

No they not even in my list

[chilly kestrel]

fr. i have people sending me friend requests when im not even online. like huh? who are u guys

[chilly kestrel]

doxxed

[rotund forge]

well I just join em thinking poor guys let's play with em

[chilly kestrel]

as long as u enjoy urself

[rotund forge]

they are better than random rift ppl tho

They don't leave ur ass

Even though they noobs

[chilly kestrel]

one of the reasons i hate rift. everyone is just in their own world

[rotund forge]

Random teamup means someone goes somewhere

And gets attacked

I go to rescue them

But instead of fighting with me

They run away

bruh

Fkin betrayers

[chilly kestrel]

at least they wait for u to rescue em. most just didnt even wait then dc

[rotund forge]

oh I don't mean the revive

They keep fighting and running

But once team comes they should fight along

[plucky night]

can some1 explain the conditions to do the low hp Nirriti challenge. Cleared a couple fights with low hp, finished the run, didn't count. Do i need to not have extra lives? or like kill the final boss on low hp.

[rotund forge]

But nah

[rotund forge]

dunno

Use kylin

[chilly kestrel]

oh. f that

[rotund forge]

Or something

He go low hp on ult

[rotund forge]

Kill last boss with low hp

[fierce light]

I don't recall Matron of Yushan stepping on you, but she's in Gelid Yushan, in Holoroth.

[fierce light]

Either

• Use Kylin and use his Ultimate near the end of a fight
• Grab Mighty Counter Exhaustion with Thunder Blessing.
• Get lucky with Divinity Guard.

[plucky night]

do i just need to finish the fight at low hp?

[fierce light]

Yes

[plucky night]

oh, ok

armor doesn't count then

i can be full armor no hp

[fierce light]

Yeah

[plucky night]

tyty

did it, thanks again

[civic canyon]

Yes that one and in the winter part

🗣️

And yes i can confirm she DOES step on me

She is the one with whips

(yes please)

[hollow herald]

Akos training is really difficult - the one with the shift

[west crater]

Guys, I have a question. When I use the jade enrage in my build, I lose my passive rage and the only way is just by attacking, the Enrage grants me 45% Rage/DMG. From the moment I put Rage/DMG attribute in some jades, let's suppose I have 25%, they add together with this 45% (totaling Rage/DMG +70%, making the calculation base Rage/DMG x ​1.70) or they multiply the result of this 45% ( (base rage/DMG x 1.45) x 1.25). I'm trying to make a build for Akos where I get a lot of atk percentage and can use the ultimate skill very quickly and use Ripper claw with maximum strength.

The primary objective is to see if it's feasible to get a cloud weaver + Ripping claws fill about 25% Rage without losing too many boss damage and atk% stats.

[river stratus]

do keep in mind when curio comes out again we have banner, that one give you a lot of rage/dmg

[fierce light]

Passive Rage Recovery

• Base Rate is 0.3% of Max Rage per second.
• Takes ~5 minutes and 33 seconds to fully charge Rage without attacking.

Rage/DMG

• Base Rate is 0.533..% × Base DMG Coefficient of attack.
• Akos's Cloud Weaver attack has a Base DMG Coefficient of 10.42.

• 0.533..% × 10.42 ≈ 5.56%

• • So at base, Cloud Weaver should restore 5.56% of his Max Rage.

In order to get it to restore 25% Rage, you would need ~349.9% Rage/DMG.

Afaik, the Enrage Souljade is additive. You can see it in your Combat Attributes list.

[fickle linden]

they need to do something for nirriti

my god is it boring

[west crater]

HMMMM... Just to see if I understand correctly then... If I have about 60% rage/DMG it would be added here:

0.533..%<<<< × 10.42 ≈ 5.56%
resulting in:
1.133..% × 10.42 ≈ 11.8%

[fierce light]

It would be:

• 0.533..% = 400 ÷ 75,000
• (400 ÷ 75000) × (1 + Rage/DMG Bonus) × DMG Coefficient.
• (400 ÷ 75000) × 160% × 10.42 = (400 ÷ 75000) × 16.672 = 6,668.8 ÷ 75,000 ≈ 8.89%

[west crater]

Okay, now I get it, I'll always multiply Rage/Dmg by my Dmg coefficient and then multiply the base Rage. You're THE GUY, Dark Zero! I hope you drop 3 jades with red attribute in the next match.

[fierce light]

You're welcome.

[void yew]

Increased Skill Recovery Speed to 78%

And 420% damage with Ice

[fierce light]

78%? How?
Even with 12 Windfalls, that's 72%.

[signal kite]

Play with diff heroes and diff build and take it as a challenge to do most dmg and faster runs and you will enjoy all the matches more or less , that's what I do coz nirriti suks as hell

[dusty wharf]

good idea

[fierce light]

I just try and aim for that elusive sub 3 minute run.

Or give up and listen to some audio commentary on something if it starts off bad.

[fickle linden]

it just puts me to sleep

i cannot do more than 2 runs in row

like literally i will fall asleep on my chair

atleast inferno kept me awake

[north lynx]

That is

A w role

Gimme

Where u get that

[rotund forge]

Gotta be muscular

[honest quest]

can someone explain to me why do defence missions have to exist?

[fierce light]

Thankfully they moved on from them

[fickle linden]

can't wait for them to add escort missions

[fickle linden]

some event

https://tenor.com/view/cat-yin-yang-duality-of-soul-gif-1515729029489026142

2 flux shards from 6 games i've played in 2 days

less you play, better the rewards confirmed!

[rotund forge]

that's why I don't go over 600 fatigue

[fierce light]

Probably can finish a build as long as you do first 600 fatigue every week.

[viscid wraith]

maybe in other universe (reversal flow)

[hidden creek]

https://tenor.com/view/head-ache-gif-2945227568839210912

[fierce light]

They gave hit detection issues to Pistol of all weapons..?

I mean the way it works is a bit weird, but it can't even headshot or hit weak points, so why did they need to change how it detects hits?

[hidden creek]

idk about that but this uhh cannon mob hitbox was always weird, or like its actual hitbox is so smol

but like if you missed it with musket then it's still somewhat understandable

but pistol bullet hitbox was like

huge

but still

that happens

it's just dumb design

[fierce light]

Yeah it shoots a blast of 5 bullets, kinda like a shotgun

But the damage numbers display the sum of the damage

If you look at a clip really slow though, you'll see it add up 5 bullets

[hidden creek]

yeah what's more funny is the crosshair turned red, indicate that it's inside the target's hitbox, and i will do damages if i shoot at that moment
but then it still missed

[balmy coral]

There should be like 5 small hitboxes for pistol so like- each hit has its hit detection so missing completely out of 5 bullets is out of the question.

Imo

[fierce light]

Yeah you can aim to the side of those green ghosts and still hit them with pistol, so it makes no sense

[hidden creek]

just another naraka moment ig

[civic canyon]

@balmy harness Fix it plz >_<

[fierce light]

Musket needs fixing more so

Pistol still gonna be garbage 💀

[balmy coral]

bad numbers

[hidden creek]

https://tenor.com/view/reaper-gif-12366483

they need to add this move

for pistol to be good

[cursive kestrel]

I just hate when bullets seem to disappear to nowhere even u aim directly to boss

[lone umbra]

i got none

[bold ice]

I had it happen a lot during mob stages with musket

Which is a shame cause clearing niritti with musket valda is actually very fun

[cursive kestrel]

hitbox is weird af acceptable one is crossbow

[bold ice]

It's not even hitbox I don't think

It's like the bullets never even leave the weapon

Not hitting is one thing, but you can't even see the projectile

[cursive kestrel]

I heard the sound of shooting but no dmg was done

[bold ice]

Yeah the sound is there and you lose durability

But the bullet isn't going anywhere

[cursive kestrel]

sometimes I think it's about terrains and it's weird that u aimed far away targets but the bullets hit around ur toes 💀

like invisible object in the way

[sonic edge]

Can anyone help me with immovable mission on nightscream

[lone umbra]

naraka x harry potter

[balmy coral]

@sonic edge ID?

[cursive kestrel]

It happened too often so I give up playing range

[sonic edge]

195700040178

[balmy coral]

Ok

[lone umbra]

The only range build I m gonna use is swarm

[cursive kestrel]

I just hate when I have to be that close to boss

[lone umbra]

Can't wait for peak now..

Bored of nirriti grind

And topaz drops are worthless

[cursive kestrel]

I'm at 1400 fatigue.. I'm so unproductive

[lone umbra]

💀 last day tomorrow..

[rotund forge]

I'm at 598 bro

[chilly kestrel]

u on?

[rotund forge]

☠️ nope I'm outside

Maybe in an hour

[chilly kestrel]

we'll see if im still alive by then

[rotund forge]

u always are

[chilly kestrel]

thats what u think

[cursive kestrel]

damn this feels like forever

[wooden phoenix]

Tianhai is dumbledore

[lone umbra]

me waiting for reset is like forever

[lone umbra]

[cursive kestrel]

im in pvp mode this week

[lone umbra]

Wtf

[lone umbra]

Reaching UA?

[cursive kestrel]

I haven't played rank for 2 seasons so I don't think I'm productive enough to reach ua

[lone umbra]

I dropped pvp for like 1.5 month after reaching UA. It was tiring

[balmy coral]

Is the free gold free to spend on anything?

[plucky night]

is nirriti NS the most productive thing to do once you did everything?

[balmy coral]

Not NS run Hard

They both have the same drops

You only hunt for Jades in NS

[plucky night]

jade hunting feels like despair as well

ty for info tho

[balmy coral]

Buy BP u will get a lot of Jade boxes that u can choose

We get free gold that's enough for it

[plucky night]

yeah, i am currently considering using free gold to buy bp, not sure if allows it tho

[balmy coral]

Ye that was my plan too until I had to buy it

[plucky night]

i am considering buying the regular bp, and then using that gold to buy the pve bp

[balmy coral]

Pretty nice ye if u get all the levels already

[plucky night]

didn't manage to get this bp to max levels, started playing again like 3-4 weeks ago

just waiting for the next one, it should be in time before gold expires

[balmy coral]

mmmm it's your decision then I won't justify it

Showdown BP just becomes a necessity playing this mode

It's stupid

[plucky night]

i am guessing you can't really do the rare stat rerolls without the extra mats?

[balmy coral]

You need both mats and crystals for first rare reroll ye

Crystals is the most scarce alongside flux

When Enigma peak opens u will get enough mats

But u still need the BP to get some gold keys to make it worth

[plucky night]

i see, thanks a lot

[quaint girder]

@fierce light How effective are Pure Lotus builds now compared to Surge and Mark builds?

They feel very good to me in Enigma Domain and Doom, but I'm not sure how well they would fare in Peak or high level Yamas

[lone umbra]

it is not at all on par with surge and mark

[quaint girder]

Darn

I'm guessing Mark/Surge are better at ST and Lotus is better at AoE

[lone umbra]

surge/scorch/range gonna rule yama

[lone umbra]

yep

[quaint girder]

Scorch is better than Mark?

[lone umbra]

yea

scorch is best rn

[quaint girder]

that's a shock, I thought they nerfed Scorch to oblivion

[lone umbra]

the recent potential change brought it back

[quaint girder]

Surprised it came back not just viable, but the best ST build competing with Surge.

man, I guess I'll have to build a mark or surge build for Yamas then

I couldn't clear Paragon 9 and 10 last season because my build wasn't strong enough to brute force with Zippy (I also neglected Showdown bc was farming Rift).

[lone umbra]

mark requires aggro boss so yama's probably dont prefer that imo

[quaint girder]

ah right because mark only applies during defuse and dodge

[lone umbra]

yea

[quaint girder]

Welp, that kinda sucks

I love the aesthetic of Lotus, but sad it's not high level viable

[lone umbra]

poison mark seems quite good

[hidden creek]

more like the only viable mark build

[lone umbra]

thunder mark is good too but heavy investment

while poison requires 6 windfall and you are at optimal output with ice surge

[quaint girder]

I have a Pure DT Lotus 4x mod and building 8x WF

so close to finishing one build lmaooo

after 3 seasons

[fierce light]

Pure Lotus builds are decent for mobbing. For anything single target though they fall behind cause of the lower initial accumulation and base damage.

[fierce light]

They added a section for Burn on the potential. Normally it would only have Blazing Flame buffing it.

Thunder build with mod was probably one of the weirder options since it had no bonus accumulation till now

[quaint girder]

I'm a weirdo

[balmy coral]

I'm loving scorching more than before now

[restive wraith]

sneak in top 100 somehow lmao

I need to farm those new jades, top 1 is 23 secs holy

[fierce light]

Poison Lotus probably the worst option right now for Poison.

[restive wraith]

I trying to get those new jade, probably going ice like ur guide's recommendation

I back for like a week, I dont even get all the needed jade yet sadly ):

[balmy coral]

That's actually a win since dedicated builds want poison jades on it.

If u farm rn 2nd phase will make it easier

Assuming they're maxed out

[fierce light]

Yeah they got Pestilent Pool and Miasma Drive already, just need Element Surge and the others.

[tawdry idol]

gang is it worth swapping my ice build with poison build just for the love of game 🗣️ 🔥

[fierce light]

I wouldn't deconstruct it, but you can start on a Poison build.

Season looks long enough to finish a build and have some left for Curio builds.

[north lynx]

I'm just all inning my luck build this season tbh lolol

Won't stop till triple windfall on all 6

Gonna go back to lotus on it

[limpid pecan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1173036867881545768.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=IveGonePastThePointOfInsanity

u going with blessed and lucky break too?

[fierce light]

Probably could do it with Swarm tbh

• Pestilent Pool, Element Surge, Miasma Drive, Backfire, Lucky Break & Blessing.

[lone umbra]

Shouldn't that be necessary jades?

[north lynx]

Ye, I have double windfall on each

[limpid pecan]

crazy

i wonder how much it can influence drops

[north lynx]

It allows for certain farming methods you can't really do without it

Like buried giant cancel

Or forest peril

[balmy coral]

DITD

[north lynx]

It also makes ditd really good

[balmy coral]

Not in inferno thou

It's most likely fixed

[north lynx]

Ye in inferno you need dps

[lone umbra]

What about peak?

[north lynx]

In peak too ofc but

If I'm bossing ill probs do a normal build

[lone umbra]

Yeah mostly zip farming

@north lynx can you share what exactly luck jades are you using?

I m thinking half investment there

For next season

[dusty wharf]

wht is the potential tree for thunder build

[fierce light]

From the looks of it, the effectiveness of Luck increases the lower your Reward % is.

But they don't really describe how much Luck they run in their lucky sets.

[balmy coral]

Interesting

[north lynx]

I would assume itz just the bare min 500 luck per jade + blessed and lucky

[fierce light]

Tree depends on the type of build, rather than the element.

• Running Lotus-type damage? Green path.
• Running Chain Crush and/or Surge? Red path.
• Running Mark? Purple path.

[north lynx]

You really only need 4-5k luck

But the more the better

Just need enough to skew the rare+ drops from chests and hearts into over 40% so it beats out ruins

Unfortunately it's all anecdotal

Since 0 information is given about luck

Other than fugei saying it affects the rarity

[fierce light]

Yeah it says in-game that Luck affects the rarity of Souljades.

Doesn't seem to be involved in the quantity at all.

[north lynx]

Quantity in 15 is just by number of chests opened

[lone umbra]

I do think it would be either 12 wf or 18 wf

[north lynx]

Which means technically trios ditd is better than solos

But I like solos, 1 min less is huge

[lone umbra]

Trios is no doubt to be good. 4-5k by default

[north lynx]

Yeah especially if you are using yin yang

[lone umbra]

Yeah

[fierce light]

Pretty crazy that Yin-Yang Bonus gives us nearly 2 Gold Keys of Luck if the full team has it.

[north lynx]

Trios also gets an extra box

[lone umbra]

Yeah

[fierce light]

Unfortunate that people who were even playing last season probably didn't get it cause they didn't do a few Tempered Infernos..

[north lynx]

I got 2 crystals from the new mob run the other day, anyone else get that as well?

It doesn't seem worth to grind

But it got me thinking on how they could make it so

[fierce light]

New mission is always scaled up, so going to be slower.

[lone umbra]

Twisted twins ?

[north lynx]

Yeah

[lone umbra]

It is longer

[north lynx]

Much longer, + annoying boss

[lone umbra]

Yeah.. DITD is best

Even at 100% I would prefer DITD. Nirriti was giving 4-5 crystals in avg which was shit compared to DITD

[restive wraith]

Im noting this down, didnt think my jades still usable o.o big!!!

[fierce light]

Mainly cause the stat bonuses

[restive wraith]

I forgot which one is my moderation/ windfall, hope those 2 are

I have 3 jade with only 1 rare there

[restive wraith]

I will looking to it tomorrow ty sir not sure what the new meta jade look like

[north lynx]

Even when it give 9, it never averages out

[timid stirrup]

what is the bet poison build rn?

[north lynx]

The only bonus to Ruins is if you don't have luck the yield for fragments is better

And tricking final 2399 fatigue

I'll do it on 150% too cause the rewards for ditd is mid

At 150

[lone umbra]

Yeah i usually do nirriti until 1500-1600

Then i switch to DITD

Fragments is better in nirriti

[limpid pecan]

to be honest i would rather watch dried paint dry than run 15 fatigue mission for 600+ fatigue

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1173036867881545768.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=IveGonePastThePointOfInsanity

[north lynx]

See, but after start of season ruins

It's kinda nice to switch

• I get the option of buried and forest peril

[balmy coral]

make nirriti/NS/Legend Consume more fatigue.

[north lynx]

Need an eerie ruins with high rewards and 100 fatigue cost

[balmy coral]

Ye 100 no matter the difficulty would be acceptable

[lone umbra]

Make yin yang bonus apply to nirriti

[fierce light]

Lol Poison Seal is so bad for mobbing

[north lynx]

It's also nice to do while I'm working

[fierce light]

The radius is so large and it targets a random mob when reapplying mark that it can apply to a mob not even in your vision.

[north lynx]

Is lotus better than chain crush now?

[fierce light]

No

[north lynx]

Like all the lotus buffs

Seem nuts no?

[fierce light]

Chain Crush got buffed too

Lotus got nerfed since they made the accumulation conditional.

[north lynx]

But you get so much attack

[vale inlet]

Kindly tag the moderators if you see non pg discussions and not let the chat "get cooked".

[north lynx]

Wait that sounds familiar

[fierce light]

You get more Elemental DMG than Attack

But also it's stat bonuses, other than Elemental DMG have short durations (10s).

[north lynx]

Hm

Raw 15% attack is all u get from surge

Then there's the 20% ele damage

[vale inlet]

@dusty wharf and@rotund forge Let me clarify something - this server is pg13, so discussions like you guys had above are against the rules. Next time me or any of the mods see a discussion like that, you will get banned. Kindly refer to the server #📜┃rules . I am not the only one to scan ther server, true, however things will be missed sometimes. That does not mean those type of discussions are or should be encouraged.

[fierce light]

• +30% Attack from Element Afterglow and Element Fury.
• +20% Ice Blast DMG from Essence Burst.
• +60% Ice Blast DMG from Depths Blast
  VS Lotus with
• +10% Attack from Aroma Aura.
• +30% Ice Blast DMG from Primordial Empowerment.
• +30% Ice Blast DMG from Ice Root.
• +12% DMG to Bosses from Lotus Execution.
• +20% Hit DMG from Sub-Zero Seal.
  Everything else they share bonus wise.

[lone umbra]

Now i m curious what was that ?

[drowsy crow]

🤔 im curious too

[north lynx]

30% attack is kinda not true tho right

Because it's 15 while it's active

And 15 when it ends

[fierce light]

The 15 when it ends stays active for 30s

[north lynx]

Ah yeah that is very viable

I wonder if there's a way to duel tree

From my luck build

Like if I forgo lotus impact 10%

Causes that's garbage who cares right

[fierce light]

Could run Depths Blast instead of Sub-Zero Seal to activate Surge quicker.

[north lynx]

O I removed sub and the other one

Rolled a windfall on a ghastbloom

I prefer the blooms for mobbing especially

[fierce light]

Yeah for mobbing, Lotus build is probably stronger

[north lynx]

I'll probably temporarily switch a stat on Pestilent Pool to luck, then re change it back later

[lone umbra]

What jades do you use for luck build?

[fierce light]

Much more lax internal cooldown than Surge's Chill Spike (4s on Ice Thorn vs 4/s for Lotus).

[north lynx]

Current is ghastbloom, toxifed lotus, blessed, lucky break, element surge, Pestilent pool

But before I readded lotus I had sub zero and tundras

I think I had defuse solid as a placeholder just cause it had windfall and luck

Cuz really it didn't matter ditd is easy

[fierce light]

Oh, you can already go partial into Surge tree then

There's no avoiding Poison Root though.

[north lynx]

Yeah I figure the dmg to boss lotus and impact won't be relevant for mobbing

Impact is a bit of a joke anyway

Maybe if it was like ruins where you could get 600x speed

[fierce light]

Yeah pretty goofy that they nerfed the multiplier on it

[calm kestrel]

bump

[balmy coral]

I'm pretty sure no one uses a dedicated poison build.

[rotund forge]

☠️ I guess it was about vipers mom and new boss

but that's like 2 weeks ago or something

[north lynx]

The best poisen build is miasma drive, Pestilent Pool, element surge

Then 3 jades

[fierce light]

Different heroes have different versions of Poison they prefer.

[timid stirrup]

thats an interesting concept

so other 3 depends on mark/lotus/chain crush i presume

[timid stirrup]

my bad. i checked ur site the other day and it was yet to b updated. i c that its updated now so i'll refer to that

[fierce light]

There's Matari's:

• Pestilent Pool, Element Surge, Toxin Seep, Defuse • Poison Charge, Mushroom Summoning & Miasma Boon.
  Swarm Users:
• Pestilent Pool, Element Surge, Miasma Drive, Renewed Vigor, Backfire & Shattered Edge.
  Bow Users:
• Scattershot Enhance, Toxic Arrows, Pestilent Pool, Element Surge, Miasma Drive, & Backfire.
  General Seal Build:
• Pestilent Pool, Infectious Touch, Defuse • Poison Charge, Mushroom Summoning, Miasma Boon & Defuse • Solidification.

[lone umbra]

This season those 3 jades are bit skewed. Depending on heroes

[lone umbra]

General poison seems to be very good

[lone umbra]

There is also tproof + tpull version

[dusty wharf]

really ?

I don't think it was that one

[rotund forge]

dunno I have done much gooning

Which one then

[dusty wharf]

even I don't remember

[rotund forge]

[dusty wharf]

fr I don't remember saying anything violating the pg13 rating

[rotund forge]

if it was vipers mom and agnivat there are others too

Who violated

[dusty wharf]

ask leiko

[rotund forge]

catch them too

[dusty wharf]

nvm don't talk abt these things in server

create gc

@rotund forge you in-game rn ?

[rotund forge]

Nope

[dusty wharf]

then ?

eating ?

[rotund forge]

Sleeping

Tommorow gotta wake up early

[balmy coral]

nah uh u tweaking

[dusty wharf]

dag

[balmy coral]

[rotund forge]

(don't give yourself out)

[rotund forge]

U playing nirriti?

I'll come for 30 min if yea

[dusty wharf]

come fast

call third also

if someone there

[rotund forge]

Who's third

[dusty wharf]

anyone

[rotund forge]

@chilly kestrel

U alive

[fierce light]

Interesting, this video (https://v.douyin.com/GC-VEQrz31U/) rates Thunder Surge Scorch, Poison Surge Bow and Ice Surge Justina to be the top 3 builds.

[rotund forge]

@tribal bone

[dusty wharf]

surge builds are definitely good

ice and thurder scorch maybe

dk abt poison bow

[fierce light]

Looks like they're moving back to 30.5%+ Deadeye Rate again for the quick start.

[rotund forge]

Dude u in ranked

[signal kite]

When am i getting that broom 🧹 spear skin btw

[rotund forge]

poor guy got caught only for a broom

[distant cypress]

Find out here -> #❔┃faq message nvm. this is wrong basically reporting through third party (such as discord) will not get you the skin at all

[signal kite]

Aww man T^T so I have to report from naraka feedback ingame feature?

Ok checking faq

Aww man

Tooo much stuffs it's like not possible to get it T^T

Never reporting again lost my interest

[distant cypress]

yeah I updated faq somehow forgot it to mention there as well

[distant cypress]

I'm on the hunt for that skin since almost release I gave up as well

[signal kite]

[dusty wharf]

yeah

[rotund forge]

I got kidnapped

[lone umbra]

Ye thunder surge scorch and thunder scorch , poison bow, ice surge justina top tier picks

[dusty wharf]

You play then I gtg

[rotund forge]

gn

[dusty wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/good-night-dawg-cnft-gn-cnft-gn-dawg-gn-dawg-cnft-the-art-bank-gif-27211423

[tribal bone]

?

[north lynx]

Which is ridiculous

Since this is the only reporting method that gets immediate action

Or noticeable action

They say in game reporting works but I haven't met a soul in global in the past 2 years who's gotten a report taken seriously in game

[turbid agate]

Isn't that the one that used to increase ice blast damage? they changed it

[vale inlet]

[north lynx]

Yeah updated text now matches

it was bugged previously, only in translation though

the effect matched its current text

[fierce light]

It was buffing all elemental damage before?

Could've sworn it wasn't.

[north lynx]

It was, just wasnt saying it was

[fierce light]

Slight buff to Thunder Surge and Poison Surge builds ig.

Actually doesn't change anything for the hybrid builds.

You'd still want Element Afterglow instead of Essence Burst

[chilly kestrel]

bro

[sonic edge]

If I buy the premium showdown pass do I get the 20 levels if I’m already at level 20 cuz I’m 26 rn

[fickle linden]

don't buy it

https://tenor.com/view/waste-of-money-if-you-ask-me-morgan-freeman-waste-of-money-if-you-ask-me-its-a-waste-gif-26236769

[sonic edge]

So I don’t get the extra 20 levels?

That sucks

[fickle linden]

you probably get them but why pay for them?

just play a bit and you get 20 levels

you have 6 months to get battlepass done..

no need to rush it with money

[sonic edge]

Oh 6 months

Nvm 😭

[fickle linden]

yeah it just started and the season will last 6 months

[sonic edge]

I thought I had 9 days

[fickle linden]

no, that's PVP battlepass

[sonic edge]

Ight bet nvm then I’ll get the base one

[fickle linden]

that ends in 9 days

[sonic edge]

sweet I got worried for nothing lol

[soft pelican]

how do people deal with nirriti burnout lol grinding this crap is obnoxious

[fickle linden]

i deal with it by playing 2 nirriti games a day for dailies/events and not one more

can't be bothered to burn more than 600 fatigue per week

it's a loooong season you can take a month off easily and not stress about it

[soft pelican]

ngl i guess im only fried bc this period is like the only time i can see myself in top 100 if i grind kekw

[fierce light]

• Find some good content to watch in the background.
• Grinding with friends usually helps as you can try to out damage them.
• Aim for as fast as you can clear, but if you get bad rings, just take it casual.

Top 100 that competitive on PC?

Usually just have to do the last stage to get that lol

[shrewd basin]

Go nuts with ranged try and 1 shot a boss

[soft pelican]

top 100 in sea pc at least is somewhat effort on popular heroes

also bc my souljade kinda sucks

[dusty wharf]

then top 3 will be sub 10 second runs

[shrewd basin]

[cursive kestrel]

no peak no ambition

[lone umbra]

Experiment builds

New ambition

[cursive kestrel]

once hit lvl100 and i got tired immediately

[lone umbra]

You don't need crystals so you can chill

I will enjoy new thunder mark with 4 mod now gonna enjoy justina dashes

[plain spire]

lucky

[lone umbra]

Nice!!

[soft pelican]

is there any point spamming niriti above hard? they all seem to give the same showdown xp

[lone umbra]

Xp are same just jade drops are different

Some jades only drop in Nightscream

But if you got all jades and leveling up then spamming hard is best and fastest

[lone umbra]

Fits well with Justina

[signal kite]

I have only pulled extreme at the 100th pity by so far playing narka and when I see people lucky as you are I can't genuinely help myself from saying

https://tenor.com/view/kys-keep-yourself-safe-low-tier-god-gif-24664025

[balmy coral]

anyone ever had this before?

[hidden creek]

first time you saw a 200% bp xp boost?

[balmy coral]

I'm not really sure.

[limpid pecan]

i dont know if we had specifically 5x boost

but i seen some 200% ones before

[balmy coral]

Ye it's weird

[rotund forge]

But doesn't apply to keys

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Ten Ver Ruoir leveled up!

[dusty wharf]

bro

@rotund forge type wcf all

[woeful monolith]

If your struggling with Nirritti Nightscream or Legend || Low FireForge or in General ||
**3 **Man **Wuchen **Go for 4 Element(Ice or Poison) 4 Range (Best starting setup IMO)
Fan attacks Stagger the mobs, Skill negate's **1 **fatal strike or ~~heal ~~at end of round by shooting straight down
You can get your Deadeye meter close to Red as possible (pre boss round) it will carry into Boss Stage
**Wuchen's **alternate Ult's & spam Swarm Salvo Missle's (After 2 *Salvo *shots your Ult is back, no joke) Rinse Repeat
Mobs can't do anything getting tossed around and boss is almost perma staggered from Ultimate if done right.

I might of yapped bit more than needed but someone who actually is still trying to complete those stages, it can make it so easy it honestly feels like cheating.

[rotund forge]

2cf all

wcf all

[drifting lance]

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[brazen ferry]

[rotund forge]

[dusty wharf]

wht r u showing ?

sweaty af

[rotund forge]

drops still good even after 600 fatigue

[dusty wharf]

wdym good

only 1 legend slj is there

[rotund forge]

other times it dont eeven give that

[dusty wharf]

you playing rn ?

[rotund forge]

yea

[dusty wharf]

I'm coming

[rotund forge]

join

[dusty wharf]

Like why am I getting matchmaked into a FD ranked lobby ?

[cursive kestrel]

this week my drop rate is 💩

[dusty wharf]

I'm solar

[rotund forge]

no players

[lone umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-homer-bart-lisa-join-us-gif-17846376318791889140

[lone umbra]

Bro the drop is good at 100.. in nirriti you don't expect much of sj and getting 1 gold sj and gold key along with 3-4 purple is considered good drop

[dusty wharf]

ok then Ig

at 150 ?

[cursive kestrel]

u know I have enough crystals so this week still give me crystals

like 5 crystals 1 purple jades

[lone umbra]

It didn't even give me crystals

[lone umbra]

Go topaz?

[lone umbra]

I wouldn't say drop is that bad at 150. But not good for sure

[balmy coral]

I just realized that I had one of the mod of my Ice surge in Chain.

Can't replace it with sub zero

rip

[amber garden]

Hello everyone, I want to ask if Solo Trios Nitris Ruins Legend is different with solo ?

[plain spire]

solo mode = solo difficulty low hp boss
trios mode = trios difficulty high hp boss

[amber garden]

oh thanks, i wonder because I just saw a video on tiktok there was a solo legend trios so I would like to ask if it was different or not

[cursive kestrel]

still 💩 drop

[plucky night]

the brain rot from nirriti is setting in real nice now enigma can't come back fast enough

[balmy coral]

agreed

[north lynx]

That's why the luck build is freeing

Multiple modes to grind

[plucky night]

at this point even with luck build i would grind nirriti, since i want to be done with using stamina. Also nirriti is love, nirriti is life

[limpid pecan]

doesnt luck build only come into play if u are already maxing 2400 fatigue every week?

[north lynx]

Ye

[limpid pecan]

💀

[north lynx]

Actually, not really

It's a global boost regardless

Comes into play for peak

And anything passed 150%

[limpid pecan]

ye but if u play luck build u will clear slower

[north lynx]

It depends, for ditd and buried It's the same

40 secs vs 30, 1 min ditd

[balmy coral]

Ngl atp I have no choice but to max too

[plucky night]

is the luck build just pretty much the 2 luck souljades? with extra stats for luck on other 4?

[north lynx]

Yeah, and windfalls

Lots o windfalls

Mod is solid too tbh

Zip f in ditd is valuable

[plucky night]

am i demented enough 2 reroll the extra stats on my 2 double windfall souljades to luck, hmm

[north lynx]

I mean just roll em back later

[balmy coral]

I will grind for two months enough for the 2nd phase before wwm comes out

[north lynx]

@limpid pecan you also gotta remember sfnd

[limpid pecan]

the heck is this

[north lynx]

Sfnd is a staple now, and the best method for grinding even without luck

Suffer no demon

But luck triples rewards

At least in fragments

[limpid pecan]

tbh im kinda done with showdown i cba anymore

its so boring

[north lynx]

Fair

[limpid pecan]

i'd rather uninstall naraka than grind 15 fatigue mission till 2400

[north lynx]

Eh it's the same time as ruins

Usually less tbh

[plucky night]

i am having fun for now, since i didn't play showdown for a while. The last time a played showdown was when you only could play it on weekends and it would be locked during the week lol

[limpid pecan]

its besides the point, its just loading screens 24/7

[hidden creek]

same
now i just play for the season reward then not gonna touch it again

[north lynx]

Ye

[limpid pecan]

like half of showdown gameplay

is loading screens

settlement screen

[balmy coral]

Can't wait for this.

[limpid pecan]

queuing up

clearing out storage

[north lynx]

Suffer no demon is peak showdown

Idek why

It shouldn't be

[limpid pecan]

it would be peak if it was 20 min mission

without loading screens all time

[plucky night]

what is exactly suffer no demon? kinda lost on it

[north lynx]

An event that comes around once a season

[limpid pecan]

mob density is fun

[north lynx]

It's a mode that costs 45 fatigue, very quick, great rewards

[limpid pecan]

its not fun to chase solo archers on roofs of different buildings

[balmy coral]

At least I don't even have to walk miles and miles and worry that my team can't finish the run.

[limpid pecan]

showdown is designed to keep fun as minimal as possible

take enigma

the only fun map is celestra

all others suck ass completely

[north lynx]

Sorta. I just think they need to equalize rewards

[north lynx]

Nah

We hate that map fr

[limpid pecan]

wdym

[plucky night]

i kinda see it, now that i am techically able to play showdown as much as i want, it does seem less fun. back when it was literally locked untill weekends, and i would be hyped to play on friday night

[limpid pecan]

has best layout

good connections

good density

[north lynx]

Too many mobs on buildings

[balmy coral]

Not the best to play solo ngl

[balmy coral]

Oh ye I hate those

[plucky night]

i play all the party content with a buddy, and is kinda fun to do trios as duo

kinda nice challenge

[north lynx]

Mobs on buildings means you gotta awkward climb, + the water map had better mob dense spots if you pathed well. I personally prefer the mines > all

[limpid pecan]

well if u play solo

nothing beats celestra

[balmy coral]

Ye Enigman peak is gonna be a bit of challenge and fun

[north lynx]

Yeah solo celestia is good

But for peak

[limpid pecan]

and even trio is good

[north lynx]

Not so much

[limpid pecan]

that big house on west side

is packed with so many mobs

[north lynx]

Ye but water stage has like 4 of those spots

[limpid pecan]

in general enigma needs mechanism

to spawn boss

by player choice

its so tiring having to juggle %

and then depending on meta builds grief u

like lotus decides to kill archer on building

and ruins entire pathing

[balmy coral]

Tbh it's not that hard to control boss spawn as long as the mobber knows it

[north lynx]

I fw the twisted twins stage, I wish they made it grindable

Has aura, like a dark souls map

[limpid pecan]

its just a pure annoyance

serves no purpose

than to waste time

[north lynx]

I think it adds depth

[limpid pecan]

they could just put activatable boss stone

on each boss arena

[north lynx]

I like mobbing not being clear cut tbh

[limpid pecan]

switch on/off

[cursive kestrel]

pick runes to summon bosses sounds better btw

[balmy coral]

I used to mob with Justina cos bow just kisses all the bosses to death

[north lynx]

I'd like mobbing more if there was like bonuses you could activate by clearing special areas

Like cd resets

[limpid pecan]

its just one giant waste of time

they could also do

just 3 bosses or so

instead of 9

[north lynx]

Justina f is so nice for peak

And ult

[balmy coral]

Yes

[north lynx]

Very solid mobber

[balmy coral]

Way too fast

[limpid pecan]

justina just has one problem

at least last season

[north lynx]

It's like between her and zip

[limpid pecan]

she would kill small mobs

without triggering ice blast

which is another bs mechanic

[north lynx]

Ye but she just ran bow to supplement

Not a bad idea

[limpid pecan]

the point is showdown in every stage just tries to stop u from having fun

its either overload of loading screens

[north lynx]

Doomer talk !

[limpid pecan]

or annoying mechanics

like boss doesnt wanna come to mob pit in inferno

[north lynx]

It do be boring tho so I can't like

Really refute it

[limpid pecan]

or nirriti u go through loading screen every stage

and cant continue run

after 15

so even if u get a fun build

[north lynx]

Really I just think we need more modes to be worth playing

[limpid pecan]

sorry bro

back to square one

imagine they did robust nirriti progression system

with many more challenges and powerful bonuses to unlock

nah, cant have that

just grind until u get bonus attack

[balmy coral]

made a feedback bout that since good rings are just wasted every run

[limpid pecan]

woooow

and bonus hp

crazy

and bonus armor

😱

then next season

the content is

u farm these "exciting" stats

all over again

[balmy coral]

A more interactive map would be nice.

24E is cooking for next wuchen skin so let em

[limpid pecan]

and loot is so boring and soulless

u just grind crafting mats

that give miniscule increase in stats

[north lynx]

I like playing end game builds tbh

[limpid pecan]

or miniscule chance to obtain rare attribute

then be on mercy of rng

to not get scorching on a mod build

[north lynx]

A 1v1 pvp showdown arena would be kinda crazy

[limpid pecan]

tbh imagine showdown

with rift map

and economy

that would go hard

[plucky night]

my main enjoyment is kinda mastering the bosses tbh. but at the same time you are aiming for your build to ignore the boss fight as much as possible lol

[balmy coral]

I can see more drama coming up from that

[north lynx]

I highkey was doing my best not to mention the drama, as to why late game showdown sucks

This entire convo

[balmy coral]

It already is but it's showdown

[limpid pecan]

curio rng is also sucks

[balmy coral]

Ye

[limpid pecan]

they are also unbalanced

they destroy entire game

for last month of season

[balmy coral]

It ruined last season cos of minimal time.

[limpid pecan]

also

weapon attacks are basically cosmetic

90%+ dmg is done with elements or other effects like chain crush

potential plan is like fully pointless

its just like prerequisite for ur jades working at all

so when new season starts u literally have a dead build

until u level up potential

jades are like cars without wheels

and engine

look nice, cant drive anywhere

it also gives them easy way to ruin builds on a whim

they dont like build? just delete bonuses from potential

build dead

instantly

[signal kite]

They can improve so much to make the game better yet all their efforts are going to create new costumes

[fickle linden]

...for mobile...

[plucky night]

That is my main gripe with Naraka as a whole. I always felt like this game could be amazing, but it seems that the choices were always meh