👾┃showdown

[lone umbra]

in TI bow is mid F

[cursive kestrel]

Like using bow in solo as the same

but in trios TI he'd be amazing

[fierce light]

Might get a Curio for Deadeye this time

[lone umbra]

wuchen should get some op curio

[cursive kestrel]

he's not dev's best boi anymore 💀

[plain spire]

Viper and Yueshan with their exclusive curio

[lone umbra]

maybe this season is meant for him

new defuse jades suits him and rocket launchers

@fierce light i saw some one recommending full poison defuse build for akos/wuchen/feria and it is top tier T0.5 on par with ice surge... dont know the playstyle but they were confident

[cursive kestrel]

seeing him defuse and go repeatedly backward is fun

[lone umbra]

don't forget to fart

[cursive kestrel]

I'd probably get bullied for farting

[lone umbra]

[fierce light]

Covers a lot of bases.

• Pestilent Pool to activate Seal in a reasonable amount of time.
• Defuse Solidification & Defuse Poison Charge to rapidly accumulate Poison.
• Mushroom Summoning and Miasma Boon to rapidly accumulate Toxified.
• Then Infectious Touch to make sure you don't Poison yourself to death alongside bursts of Toxified.

[cursive kestrel]

Probably go all for windfall?

[lone umbra]

yeah either 6 windfalls or 4 mod 4 windfall

[cursive kestrel]

relief.. I have 2mods in pestilent pool

[lone umbra]

just wondering how would thunder version and this version doo. as thunder version there high chance of keeping meter filled but this build has more bases covered

[lone umbra]

give me ur pestilent pool... my yoto build would finally get 4 mod

[cursive kestrel]

3s cooldown is acceptable

i didn't even notice when it's on cooldown

[dusty wharf]

not the same with 3 mods on ice

feels like infinity

those 3 secs

even maxed all attri

still can't get 4th mod

[lone umbra]

ye it is acceptable but i got thrown off top 10 by that 3s

[lone umbra]

maxed attr doesn't have to do anything with mod xD

[dusty wharf]

not relating

[lone umbra]

it is ur luck

[cursive kestrel]

It's normal to get scorching in every build unless it's thunderscorch

[dusty wharf]

jus saying that I got 11 rares last month dn

from tht till now

all I got is scorching

[cursive kestrel]

why gave me mod in thunderscorch

[lone umbra]

that happens... need to get over it.. i played the lotus season for 3 months without getting 4th mod

[dusty wharf]

how many time u imbued

approx

[lone umbra]

every week 1/2 rare

[lone umbra]

damn

[dusty wharf]

this is wht 4th week going on

I have rerolled 12 times

per week 3

[balmy coral]

give me all that I need it

[dusty wharf]

I even saved

[lone umbra]

I have mod on thunder counter

[dusty wharf]

feels like hell

[cursive kestrel]

I have scorching in my backfire

[cursive kestrel]

with thunderscorch they'll give u mod

[lone umbra]

I need to farm better defuse poison charge

got shit stats

[lone umbra]

turn into thunder mark build and spam F

[cursive kestrel]

I have no windfall in thunderscorch bro i give up

[lone umbra]

fk this season so many build. you get scorching go thuder scorch.. you get mod got thunder mark

[lone umbra]

i never build thunder scorch... don't trust myself countering thunders

[cursive kestrel]

I thought having scorcing would be ez in that build and then I got no scorching enough and no windfall so I just gave up

[lone umbra]

that is why i thinking to build poison.. it is low cost and if i dont get 4-5 windfall by 800-900 i m done with that...

and focus on curio build then

[cursive kestrel]

right that season I just made poison instead

Scorching rarely comes when u need it

[lone umbra]

Fr fr

[cursive kestrel]

Then u got scorching in ice build

💀

[lone umbra]

melt and freeze

[balmy coral]

cos u can now parry frostbite that's why u need scorching

[lone umbra]

@cursive kestrel @balmy coral matari farting in the air https://www.douyin.com/video/7553126576385477948?modeFrom=searchResult

[civic canyon]

Idk why i got almost 1 shot at full health/Armor when doing hard nafiiri or tf its called
LIKE, IM LEVEL 6 IS THAT NOT ENOUGH

And it was only 2nd miniboss too

[balmy coral]

She's cute but bro she stinks and it's deadly

So u can tap dodge that blast of her

[lone umbra]

@fierce light finally someone did thunder mark F spam https://www.douyin.com/video/7553072744456342811?modeFrom=searchResult

[plain spire]

Looks like his not using lotus potential tree?

[lone umbra]

it is not lotus build

[fierce light]

Death by a thousand cuts

I couldn't pull that off on Justina, but it did look fun on Yueshan.

[plain spire]

The original one is using the lotus potential tree and deals more dmg, this one looks like chain or something.

[autumn basin]

What jades are used for thunder scorch build ?

[fierce light]

Thunderpull, Thunder Counter, Thunderproof, Draco Stride, Incineration & Copper Ward.

[lone umbra]

i feel chain crush would do more dmg

but let me get jades real quick

[autumn basin]

Oh ok thanks!

[plain spire]

https://www.douyin.com/video/7550360814302137626?modeFrom=searchResult
imo the lotus build deals more since every thunder blast triggers ghastbloom unlike the chain

[fierce light]

Chain should do more as long as you're procing it within 8 Divine Thunders.

• Blossom Blast: 280% of Attack as Divine Thunder DMG.
• Chain Crush: 2345% of Attack as Divine Thunder DMG.
  2345 / 280 = 8.375

[dusty wharf]

well you need lvl 12 for hard one

[dusty wharf]

procing ?

[fierce light]

Activating.
1 Chain Crush does the damage of 8.375 Blossom Blasts (for Divine Thunder).

[lone umbra]

is it 8 or 5? i see in description 5

[spiral kernel]

What charcher u think aree coming to showdown after zai?

[cursive kestrel]

my eyes

[lone umbra]

what abt ur fps?

[cursive kestrel]

It's acceptable for other's f not justina

[lone umbra]

if it does this good dmg i m find it fun on justina... even if it is mid build

zooming through boss is fun

[cursive kestrel]

It's like ur playing 🏓 against urself

[lone umbra]

when you are alone to play ... go justina

[balmy coral]

what is Justina PC time in solar 2?

[lone umbra]

Solo 8 sec

[balmy coral]

Shit

not even close

[lone umbra]

What is urs?

[balmy coral]

19

kylin?

[lone umbra]

Better than mine

[balmy coral]

huuh

u have better build tthan mine

[lone umbra]

Don't remember

[balmy coral]

My Ice surge is so trash

[lone umbra]

I did when I was like 70 lvl never bothered again

[balmy coral]

Oh-

Ye

I don't even know how to play Justina anymore

[lone umbra]

Mine was 28 something

[balmy coral]

u did well

for being underleved

not maxed fatigue yet?

[lone umbra]

Maxed

I used Elixir strategy

Am at 87 lvl

[balmy coral]

3 levels above me. I wasted fatigue in enigma when I was level 50 smth

To test some stuff

[lone umbra]

Ahg

[lone umbra]

Testing drops?

[balmy coral]

Yes and how viable my kylin build is-

Like how bad it is without soul drawing.

[calm kestrel]

I think Takeda and Shayol are next.

[spiral kernel]

[civic canyon]

Ya all i kinda fumbled 💔

NOT FULLY BUT LIKE

Dawg

Well anyway i was just chillin and

On the couches during my free class

The friend if that wahmen i like sat down on the

SAME COUCH NOT THE ONE THAT WAS ENTIRELY EMPTY

Or the beanbags

🗣️

So when she walked by and said Hi BUT IN PLURAL AND IM DUMB SO LIKE

Only she answered

Tho i didnt greet teachers walking by either so maybe if she tells her that it wont be so bad

[balmy coral]

Did u get her number?

[civic canyon]

Nahh she didnt come to the free spot i met her at

But like next time i get the chance

Yknow when she isnt in rush

Ill ask for their insta

[balmy coral]

rate her /10

[civic canyon]

Idk if u read the lore from before but ye they do seem to like me

[civic canyon]

9,5

🗣️

[balmy coral]

Dang

go for it

[civic canyon]

Like have you seen her thighs

😭 🙏

Goddaymn

[balmy coral]

I need proof

[civic canyon]

Ye thats the plan

[balmy coral]

for educational purposes

[balmy coral]

u have a mission friend

[civic canyon]

Maybe ill send it in GC with me and evil

ALL THE COOL PEOPLE HANG OUT THERE

[civic canyon]

Yez

🗣️

[balmy coral]

[civic canyon]

They know my name tho but since i didnt introduce myself to them they are scared to call me by it i think

[balmy coral]

Damnn the confidence ..

prepare a party invite the hood and her.

u gotta show off

[civic canyon]

[civic canyon]

When i get her insta ill ask her out to go shopping cuz

I heard wahmen like that

And my shoes are fked up so it will be a good excuse

To go

🗣️

[balmy coral]

so u haven't experienced waiting outside for em shopping around 2 hours.

u in for a treat.

[civic canyon]

We dont have that happen here

[civic canyon]

I MEAN IF ITS WITH THEM

Ye i can go for like 4-5 hours

I think

[balmy coral]

Interesting ..

[civic canyon]

Ye idk

ITS WHAT ID LIKE TO DO

Tho

[balmy coral]

It's either shopping clothes or a beauty shop/salon

https://tenor.com/view/understandwoman-gif-8183148787347718768

[civic canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/kekwtf-gif-18599263

[civic canyon]

Yes exactly

So if i see thighs strap

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-smacking-credit-card-on-table-gif-21340324

[balmy coral]

Ayee let me in the goodies when u get

[civic canyon]

Also ye i just gotta know them more they seem chill since they invaded my personal space on the beanbags

[civic canyon]

Ye ill buy you one too

So we both have them

🫂

[civic canyon]

Like i was blushing when they were leaving

Idk why that happens 😭

[quaint girder]

Ooo that's spicy, yeh definitely want that if I counter all four DTs

[balmy coral]

[civic canyon]

Yes.

Well anyway

It better happen eventually cuz they seem really cool

And she is gf material 🗣️

[quaint girder]

Ah damn, maybe full counter isn't as worth it

[lone umbra]

@balmy coral i managed to do 17 sec... but can't get lesser now

[balmy coral]

grats !

[quaint girder]

@fierce light that bonus plus internal cooldowns may make it worth it to roll Stamina or Defuse instead

[lone umbra]

also we got very important reward today

fkin flux shard

[plain spire]

1 pc

[lone umbra]

use it welll

[plain spire]

Naraka dev to players: A beggar can't be choosy.

[balmy coral]

Oh yee

I will take it later and start with thunder scorch

https://youtube.com/shorts/WvqPwYFnHbk?si=wG0tvxcV2iYOu6Ec

will be suffering in nirriti until this gets released along wtih silver palace

[spiral kernel]

Does it got a release date yet?

[balmy coral]

Supposedly January or First Quarter next year

[spiral kernel]

Ok

[spiral kernel]

So then we wont have the holy trinity of hoyo but the holy qudra of hoyo

[balmy coral]

It's not from Hoyo

[spiral kernel]

Oh really? Cool

[balmy coral]

NetEase

[spiral kernel]

Its already hard for me to blanance the hoyo schecole

[spiral kernel]

So i will just balanced it with where winds meet, naraka and that. Because they all releate to netease at the end of day

Ohh

So we gonna have the holy net

[balmy coral]

There's Silver Palace, NTE

[spiral kernel]

Or the holy netease

Mmmm

[spiral kernel]

Is it gacha?

[rotund forge]

Where do we get second legend flux from

[balmy coral]

Supposedly

[spiral kernel]

Well.

I now got to check what it is

Too much money. And i see now more gaches

Idk what to do

Welp

[balmy coral]

BP, Yama

[tribal bone]

where do we get first jade from?

[rotund forge]

Seasonal quest

[rotund forge]

time to do yama i guess

[balmy coral]

Empyrean 2 so maybe next few resets

I'm not sure

[rotund forge]

[tribal bone]

which one?

screenshot

[rotund forge]

Not in game

Outside

[tribal bone]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-doakes-curious-suspicious-questioning-gif-14390669560130901665

[rotund forge]

show me if Im online

[rotund forge]

U do the weekly quest of showdown right

Next to it

Is seasonal

[lone umbra]

it is when u clear astral 3

long time for that

[tribal bone]

Oh, that quest is gonna take forever

The one in yama is easier to get

And the third one is behind the paid battle pass

[balmy coral]

Oh astral

[rotund forge]

buy a yoto skin with 1.8k gold

[tribal bone]

Fr

Ngl the new viper skin is W

[rotund forge]

The white gold?

Or red ome

[pearl fractal]

How to use viper curio? No luck

[balmy coral]

It's not usable rn

[pearl fractal]

Oh

[balmy coral]

What build do u have rn?

For viper

[fierce light]

It takes 5 to charge it, was just saying it does more than 5 Blossom Blasts worth of damage.

[lone umbra]

Ahh

[fickle linden]

no, buy chestss with 1.8k gold and get the good yoto outfit

[balmy coral]

15k gold no yoto

[quaint girder]

Is this without any investment in the Chain Crush tree?

[dusty wharf]

legend flux ?

[dusty wharf]

which chest ?

fission ?

[fierce light]

All assume you have max Attributes and Potential

Just doesn't account for:

• Level Suppression
• Attack boost from Dodge Prowess
• Skilled Attack Chant, if it's not a 4 Moderation build.

[quaint girder]

Is Skilled Attack Chant bad with mod?

[fierce light]

No, just without 4 mod, it won't be constantly active. So it's not included in the calculation for builds without it.

[lone umbra]

so by this theory thunder mark chain is viable but just have to maintain the seal all time

[fierce light]

Yes, it has a big drop in DPS without a mark

Probably why most of the videos showing it, cut it out when it's not active

[lone umbra]

boss has to be aggro for that

[quaint girder]

gotcha gotcha

[lone umbra]

so we can maintain defuse/dodge

but manticore

though poison thunder seems pretty good

[quaint girder]

If Chain Crush doesn't account for the buffs/debuffs, but still does better than stand-alone Thunder Lotus

That feels pretty bad

I was hoping to get away with a full Lotus Build on Matari

My current build was:

• Thunderpull
• Thunder Counter
• Thunderproof
• Mighty Lotus Counter
• Ghastbloom
• Thunderous Lotus

On the Lotus tree, I took the increased elemental damage node as well as elemental accumulation node. I was popping DT like it was nobody's business and had such an easy time weaving between F + Dancing Leaves and DT + CA

The biggest winners that made the build fun were Thunderproof, Thunderous Lotus and the Elemental Accumulation node, it was so easy to build DT to counter

If Chain Crush still deals more than this Lotus build I have, I'll have to swap Thunderous Lotus for Chain Crush

[fierce light]

Yeah, Thunder Lotus build got buffed the most with this patch, as it's not reliant on accumulation on enemies.

[quaint girder]

[fierce light]

But same could be said about Thunder Chain builds.

[quaint girder]

That's the issue

Can your spreadsheet calculate my hypotheticals?

[fierce light]

The +60% Elemental DMG from Lotus path isn't enough to close the gap from the 8.375:4 ratio between Blossom Blasts & Chain Crush.

[mild barn]

Best build for Zip, Justi and Rumi rn ?

[lone umbra]

i thought if poison thunder mark got 12 windfall it becomes on par with ice surge?

[lone umbra]

justina/zip - ice surge,
rumi i m not too sure but thunder scorch probably best

[mild barn]

Im using that, and red path for zip and justi :3 so im doing it well. But not sure if im using the correct marks for them in the new wheel.

[fierce light]

It is, with an aggressive enough boss.

• 2.33 Toxin Blasts on Poison-Thunder Seal is roughly equal to 1 Chain Crush on Ice Surge.

• Increases to 2.81 Toxin Blasts when you account for the extra Ice Blast that Chain Crush causes.
• It takes at least 16s to fully charge a Chain Crush, 20s for the first rotation.
  -# 4s per Ice Blast, 3 charges from Successive Ice Blast, 1 charge from Ice Thorns.

• Average Elemental DMG between the two would be:

• Poison-Thunder Seal: 49,669 per Poison Blast from Poison Blasts and Savage Elemental Seal.
• Ice Surge: 51,601 per Ice Blast from Successive Ice Blasts and Ice Thorns (assuming you summon 3 per Frost Surge).

[lone umbra]

this would be with 12 windfalls, right?

[fierce light]

12 windfalls and what other attributes?

[lone umbra]

attack and dmg to boss?

or we prefer poison blast?

[fierce light]

Swapping: x6 [Windfall], x6 Attack, x6 DMG to Bosses, x6 Poison Blast DMG → x12 [Windfall], x6 Attack, x6 DMG to Bosses would:

• Increase Toxin Blast damage slightly.

• Toxin Blast: 60,206 → 70,085 (+16.4%)

• Decrease Poison damage significantly.

• Poison Blast: 13,850 → 5,927 (-57.2%)
• Savage Elemental Seal: 35,819 → 15,331 (-57.2%)

Swapping: x6 [Windfall], x6 Attack, x6 DMG to Bosses, x6 Poison Blast DMG → x12 [Windfall], x6 Attack, x6 Poison Blast DMG would:

• Increase Poison damage slightly.

• Poison Blast: 13,850 → 16,267 (+17.45%)
• Savage Elemental Seal: 35,819 → 42,072 (+17.45%)

• Decrease Toxin Blast damage moderately.

• Toxin Blast: 60,206 → 45,637 (-24.19%)

6 Windfalls on Poison-Thunder Seal is quite well balanced.

[lone umbra]

yeah 6 windfall is quite good then

i might go for that as i have not much to build

[fierce light]

You'll be procing more Toxin Blasts than Poison Blasts since it doesn't have an inherent cooldown, so you want it to deal some more.

[lone umbra]

yea i already felt build power.. but it was just jade no recasting was made

14% stat build

[thorn narwhal]

I can already see viper and Justina mark builds being meta at the end, destroy boss aegis and keep chain crush to when it goes down

[north lynx]

Legend Flux Jades are aquired through reaching Paragon in Yamas, lv 80 in the advanced battlepass, and level 93 in the season achievments.

[north lynx]

Meta has to compete with late game curio stuff

so as far as late meta goes

it's really up in the air

[thorn narwhal]

The meta is gonna be destroying boss aegis too often, talking about individual characters not compared to valda

[north lynx]

The problem with that is like

[thorn narwhal]

Viper could break boss aegis 1 time already in last season but with the spam from now she would probably manage to do it 4 times

[north lynx]

the new boss has a phase

where breaking aegis doesnt seem possible

and that will be the final stage for sure

and like Yoto still the king of aegis break honestly

[north lynx]

I dont think this is worth if you are breaking aegis 4 times you are too slow

[thorn narwhal]

Yeah but Justina and viper spam probably comes in second place in terms of eating aegis dmg

[lone umbra]

king?

[fierce light]

With it being a longer season, we're likely to go well beyond Paragon 10. So breaking Aegis may prove difficult to do quickly.

[rotund forge]

damn birthday role happy birthday

The new flux

[tranquil beacon]

They did improve Nirriti...Vinemire summon is gone

I was running the ILC build. Now that Chain Crush has it's own potential tree, I guess I have to replace Frostbite Chain with different souljade. Something like Depths Blast better?

[brave spade]

So whats the new meta build?

[fierce light]

Depths Blast to increase your Ice Blast DMG more or Sub-Zero Seal/Backfire to increase your overall DMG more.

[fierce light]

Thunder Scorch

[brave spade]

What jades and skill tree do i use for that?

Do u have a picture

[tender osprey]

what are the souljades for that build?

[quaint girder]

I'll have to test comfy then

Thunderous Lotus make the accumulation so much easier

[fierce light]

Tarka's #3 Players Favorites in-game are the jades.
Potential you just go mostly Blue, skip Burning Aegis and grab Untouchable Talent + Skilled Attack Chant.

[quaint girder]

But if Chain Crush doesn't feel too bad with accumulation, then I'll revert back to that for my build

Also, between Defuse and Dodge for DT Lotus, I'm finding myself more in favor of dodge. F into Dancing Leaves, you're dodge cancelling into Aegis Break to build up DT so naturally you'd be getting some perfect dodges in there.

[fierce light]

Yeah, if you don't have Moderation, would probably want Dodge Prowess.

With Moderation though, her Aegis-break does plenty of damage in Defuse Prowess.

[quaint girder]

I have moderation

hmm

maybe I'll go Defuse Prowess and feel comfort play

Basically my build didn't change much

QoL increased with the elemental accumulation nodes plus the boss damage node in Lotus tree

[fierce light]

You go from 350% Attack to 1085% Attack per Aegis-break with Defuse Prowess. It doesn't increase the accumulation rate, just the damage though.

For reference, the new Thunder Counter does 385% Attack per counter.

[rotund forge]

I miss the tree guy

[fierce light]

Interesting, they got one for Matari in particular that allows her to make use of the infinite stamina from Dodge Prowess and Aegis-break damage from Defuse Prowess.

[lone umbra]

yes i posted that on earlier... air poison farts but only suits her

[fierce light]

Just realized also I was playing Kurumi Poison wrong

Miasma Boon doesn't activate from the Defuse Counterattack

My goodness it's significantly stronger knowing that

[quaint girder]

Nifty

[lone umbra]

i also didnt know that .. what activates it?

[fierce light]

Only Infectious Touch does with the Defuse Counterattack.

But if you use the Horizontal Finisher instead, it'll activate both, pretty much guaranteeing a Toxic Blast

Instead of having to do an Aegis-break afterward

Damn, that makes me really interested in the build now

[lone umbra]

same about wuchen ?

[fierce light]

Wuchen sadly can't use a Finisher from his Defuse. So you have to cancel it and use his Aegis-break. It looks like Defuse Counterattacks aren't worth using.

With Poison-Thunder Seal, after applying the Mark and activating Mushroom Summoning once, you pretty much have to do either:

• Finisher → Defuse at least 1 Thunder → Repeat
• Aegis-break → Defuse at least 1 Thunder → Cancel Defuse → Charged Attack → Repeat

[quaint girder]

Ah damn, would have been nice if accumulation actually scaled off of damage

[lone umbra]

i mainly learning to change defuse direction to not go far back

so I can do aegis-break quickly

[tender osprey]

Which souljades are for the Poison-Thunder Seal ?

[cursive kestrel]

i tried and forgot to equip thunderproof u could imagine what happened right?

[lone umbra]

[lone umbra]

did you use pestilent pool instead?

[cursive kestrel]

yep i was in hurry and realized later when i got strike on my head

[lone umbra]

[cursive kestrel]

man i looked dumb af

[fierce light]

Don't think you even have to spam defuse it, just defuse 1 thunder to activate Mushroom Summoning

[grizzled canopy]

what the jade in english?

[fierce light]

Defuse · Poison Charge, Miasma Boon, Pestilent Pool, Element Surge, Toxin Seep, & Mushroom Summoning.

[tender osprey]

Seems like Infectious Touch with Horizontial Finisher/Defuse Horizontial attack its better than Toxin Seep Defuse Counterattack

[fierce light]

That's a build for Matari where you'd want to be spamming your Aegis-breaks anyway.

Wouldn't recommend it for anyone else

[tender osprey]

Tried it on kurumi, swaping Toxin Seep to Infectious Touch, and while Mark is active defuse horizontial attack is insta poison blast you cant even see the stack

[fierce light]

Yeah others use a different version of the build

[crimson cave]

i only know how to spam dreadful wall

[amber terrace]

[quaint girder]

Dark I'm confused with Matari, help a dumb one out

How do you Defuse again while in Dancing Leaves?

[fierce light]

Tap Vertical

[quaint girder]

I got the timings for Defusing from the ground right before Dreadful Wail

[quaint girder]

Only Vertical once in Dancing Leaves?

[fierce light]

It's very ping reliant whether it registers

But yeah just tap Vertical

[quaint girder]

hmm

[fierce light]

I usually have better results dodging back first

[quaint girder]

I should practice it in Enigma once I finish Seasonal Quests

[quaint girder]

Might be worth it to run the 3rd Defuse boost

where you get more leeway for defusing

I meant for me ofc

Ah man

okay I think I know what I have to do for my build now

Chain Crush to replace Thunderous Lotus, take Defuse Tree, and max out my Windfalls

Elemental Accumulation is still important to keep Lotus Uptime

[fierce light]

For Thunder, it's parries that summon it

[quaint girder]

Oh rite

damn

hard choices

I'll figure something out

[fierce light]

Also you can't really use Chain Crush with Lotus anymore

One of them will have to be without an Element.

@dusty wharf happy birthday, was wondering why your color was like that.

[quaint girder]

Oh shoot

Wait

But you said the DPS on chain crush is still strong with Lotus

Is that without elemental alignment?

[signal kite]

[fierce light]

Don't recall saying that, you can use Surge with Lotus, but not Chain Crush.

[quaint girder]

ooooo

Surge

ah

nah

fark that

I really dislike how surge turns me into DT turret for like 15 seconds

[fierce light]

Yeah on Thunder, probably shouldn't use it

Poison Surge can be hybrid since it allows you to spam Toxified.

Ice Surge doesn't really care, just boosts accumulation

[quaint girder]

Then my Thunderous Lotus for DT should be good

unless I do a hybrid, which I'm not planning to do

[fierce light]

Your current build is likely the best option for pure lotus.

[quaint girder]

Alrighty, then I just need to test Defuse on my build, if I can get good at defusing that's actually a significant DPS boost

[fierce light]

There's the mark build of course though

Why do you want to defuse?

[quaint girder]

DPS boost?

I thought F into Dancing Leaves and chaining defuses would give high outputs

[fierce light]

Defuse has higher base damage/accumulation, but doesn't benefit from the Defuse Prowess multiplier.

[quaint girder]

I don't like Counter because the dodge is kind of meh and the Astral Gust has a lame internal cooldown

[quaint girder]

it doesn't?

Not even the damage boost from prowess?

[fierce light]

Only boosts Aegis-break

Not Defuse Counterattack

[quaint girder]

Ahhhhhh

hmm

it still might be worth using

because I run a 4x Mod 8x WF DT Lotus build

and I usually have F up and those Aegis Break attacks after Fs make a beefy amount of my accumulation + damage

so instead of defusing, maybe just dodge into more Aegis break until F buff expires

Last question Zero

For Matari specifically

between a 10% attack buff from the Stamina Prowess and the Aegis-Break 250% boost in attack, do you think the Aegis-Break will deal more damage since we're constantly having F up?

I was erring on the stamina buff because I'm a filthy casual, but I was also trying to push this build to at least Enigma Peak viability so maybing pushing out more of that Aegis Break damage would be key

[fierce light]

Aegis-break (with Flash buff and Defuse Prowess Tier 2):

• Base Damage = 350% Attack
• Health Damage = 1085% Attack
  Defuse Counterattack (with Flash Buff):
• Base Damage = 505% Attack
• Health Damage = 505% Attack

[fierce light]

Yeah, if you're using her with Mod, you'd want Defuse Prowess.

[quaint girder]

Interesting how Defuse Prowess rewards more Aegis Break attacks

but doesn't actually do much for defuse aside from making it easier to defuse and giving some healing from defuse

very misleading name

[fierce light]

Should've been Martial Art Skill

[quaint girder]

Should call it Martial Skill Prowess

yeah

we share the same brain cell

Okay I think my build is set, when I finish getting all the potential points I'll post if here for you

Definitely not Yamas competitive, but super fun for Enigma Peak farm

[fierce light]

Akos faces a similar issue

He heavily wants to run Defuse Prowess, but Dodge Prowess would allow him to spam Defuse.

[quaint girder]

Lmao, when new hero design conflicts with the Prowess and Potential design

Hybrids like Matari, Akos, and a lil bit of Wuchen really are hurt from the lack of hybrid options

[fierce light]

Likely a balancing act. Infinite Defuse Akos would be primarily taking advantage of multi-hitting attacks from bosses

While the other does more personal DPS.

Matari is just Skill issue

[quaint girder]

I'm actually interested in a DT Mark build for Matari

but I don't have the jades yet nor the full potential tree

so I'll have to see how it plays out

[rich surge]

Anyone know what is the last one and how to drop it?

[fierce light]

Yin Yang Boon maybe? Gotta see what else you have.

[rich surge]

yep it seems boon is the one im missing

how does it drop?

[fierce light]

It'll appear when you're around 9-11 of 12 of the Blessing

From the Green Scrolls.

[rich surge]

oh

alright, thanks man 😄

is there a guide out there for the secret ones?

These are the only ones I have

[exotic canopy]

Spirit Sap
Divinity Guard
Last Chance
Sheer Momentum
Boltcall Charm
Atomize
Fatal Finish
Specter Arisal
Aqua Chains
Avarice

These are the 10 secret i have, anyone know what the three im missing are

and how to get them

@rich surge for Atomize build Hydroflare and get the special attack in a green scroll near the end. Divinity Guard and Last Chance are random from green scrolls AFAIK.

im guessing i got Boltcall Charm from building 12 Thunder and getting a lucky green scroll

[fierce light]

1. ||[Thundercall Charm]|| Having a lot of Bolt Rings will make this appear.
2. ||[Atomize]|| Having a lot of Burn Rings will make this appear.
3. ||[Last Chance]|| Having a lot of Ranged Rings will make this appear.
4. ||[Useless Rock & Inferno Hero]|| Two will appear in succession when using Tarka Ji, Viper Ning, Temulch or Matari (not guaranteed).
5. ||[Divine Army from the Sky]|| This you get from an item on the ground in the secret room of the Lost Curse (only available in Nightscream and above). Have to get the Mountain Ghost to break a wall that sticks out in a corner.
6. ||[Gambit]|| This appears by pure chance, usually early on in the run.

All of them aside from number 5, you acquire from Green Scrolls.

[exotic canopy]

Useless Rock
Gambit
Divine Army from the Sky

seem to be what im missing. but theres an extreme? doesnt look like it counts to the total?

[dusty wharf]

u gotta complete nirriti related season quests

[rotund forge]

that korvine just cook our asss

[chrome seal]

What's the gambit effect?

[fierce light]

Gives you 2 random rings you have to accept after clearing a zone instead of a choice of 3.

[chrome seal]

Ohh right
The one that cuts you the choice forcing to get an individual one

[exotic canopy]

how do you get Useless Rock, Gambit, or Divine Army from the Sky?

[balmy coral]

LMAO

[balmy coral]

nah fuc this game.

[north lynx]

Divine army is the secret ring. You need to get lost path as a cursed chest, then have the mountain giant smash the wall. Useless rock appears on certain characters only, matari, tarka, viper, justina, temulch, yoto. Gambit is random, but rare

[exotic canopy]

wow i need to play those characters damn thank you

[fierce light]

You imbued the wrong attribute anyway, it looks like.

• DMG to Bosses: 3.4% (68%)
• Rage/DMG: 3.9% (55.7%)

[balmy coral]

It's for Thunderscorch

[fierce light]

Yeah

You always imbue the lowest % attribute

So you have less to work on when you do get the right rare.

[balmy coral]

Oh ye I did

[cursive fable]

@balmy coral time to use the apex crystal

[balmy coral]

nah fuc it

[cursive fable]

i mean we have 4 right

this season

just save up like 2

[fierce light]

3

Too early to be using them tbh

[balmy coral]

You'd rather use it at the end of the season

[fierce light]

Mainly on a jade with maxed attributes already.

[cursive fable]

is windfall not that important for thunder scorch build

anyone has a math test?

[fierce light]

Burn only scales from Attack and Health, everything else is pretty much a dead stat for it.

[cursive fable]

so a windfall is 7.5% health and 2% attack for thunderscorch?

what is the 3rd best attrtibute for thunderscorch? i think boss dmg?

boss dmg ded too?

[fierce light]

Yeah it would boost everything that's not Burn

but pretty minor

[cursive fable]

i see some people run a single 200 counter recovery on defuse

so 7 windfall works too i guess?

[fierce light]

That's likely from when they built it in a previous season

Where we didn't have healing as part of the potential

[cursive fable]

so having 8 mod is very important for thunder scorch?

i guess for ice surge sometimes having 5-6 mod with couple BOSS damage is still playable

[rotund forge]

confirm it

and legend it

[balmy coral]

No too early.

[rotund forge]

[cursive fable]

@balmy coral you farmign 2400 fati every week?

[balmy coral]

Ye

I don't think Im going for any build atm since I don't have flux anymore.

[cursive fable]

how many builds realisticlly are there?

ice surge/thunder scorch/bow?

i think thats it?

[rotund forge]

the new akos defuse

wuchen swarm

[balmy coral]

Lots

[fierce light]

Well mainly having the 4 Scorching. It does enough damage on its own, but if you want it to scale the most, those Windfalls are crucial.

DMG to Bosses still applies to Ice Blast DMG, so it's not a terrible placeholder.

[fierce light]

Poison Seal looks competitive with Ice Surge. For bossing at least.

[cursive fable]

@fierce light posion mark is the new defuse jade build?

[fierce light]

Yeah

[thorn narwhal]

so it seems @fickle linden was right there is some sort of bug causing thunder to insta charger? @fierce light

[wind light]

dead gmae

[fierce light]

Lol it's the day before reset and we had an early reset.

[hidden creek]

who even pub queue for nirriti hard anyway...

[cursive fable]

@fierce light 1 legend crystal feels like an equilvalent of 500 frag/250 stones

[fierce light]

That looks normal to me. Just don't have Element Surge/Thunder Charge on

[fierce light]

Flux Jade Shard:

• ~190 Fragments
• ~95 Crystals
  -# 95 Recasts is average amount per rare.
  Flux Jade:
• ~380 Fragments
• ~190 Crystals
  -# Worth 2 Flux Shards.
  Legendary Flux Jade:
• ~1140 Fragments
• ~570 Crystals
  -# Average 3 attempts to get the correct Rare Attribute.

[tender osprey]

what exactly is that

[fierce light]

Recasting materials.

[tender osprey]

for Flux jade i dont believe it , i recasted around 450 fragments and didnt got the 2nd rare attribute

[fierce light]

You can't get a 2nd rare through recasting

Have to imbue it

[tender osprey]

I did imbue for windfall 2h ago 4 times and i got scorch or mod

and im out of jades

[fierce light]

Oh, yeah it's a 1/3 chance, it can be pretty stingy

Legendary Flux Jade let's you choose the rare

[tender osprey]

yeah i need one of em

btw Dark whats ur record on yama's rn

with viper lets say

[fierce light]

35s iirc, trying out the new poison jades

[tender osprey]

22sec with viper thunder scorch, but there is a guy with 9 sec lmao

guess the windfalls im missing makes the diff

[fierce light]

I got 13s on Tarka.

Not sure how they're breaking the sub 10s mark as I'm killing the boss in 1 Scorching and the orb in 2.

[north lynx]

Not possible to recast for a 2nd rare.

Rip your fragments 💔

You can only get a 2nd rare by flux jades

Or 2 flux shards

[tender osprey]

yeah lesson learnt by the hard way but its ok

[north lynx]

Also noting the numbers quoted by dark are not the exact pity timer numbers, but an estimate. The pity timer number is likely higher but on average you will probably get one around there.

Wish they would just tell us

but they don't so we gotta go off large data pools and guess

[hidden creek]

isn't it the hard pity is 120 recasts

[cursive fable]

basically the set requires 8 windfall

so if your first jade isnt windfall

guess it will be D.Eed lol

[thorn narwhal]

he was saying on his kylin build so most likely had surge so not sure, its either thunder animation speed is random every time or is different because i seen it charge slower on other times

@north lynx still got fatigue for dangers?

[north lynx]

Unfort not I'm capped out

[north lynx]

Who knows

[fierce light]

They say it's 150

[hidden creek]

ic

[balmy coral]

Last week I got 3 rares on 350 recast so ye it really randoms.

[thorn narwhal]

they say? so you never reached it 151 to be precise tho

[north lynx]

Sometimes Ill get a rare on like 10 recasts

[fierce light]

I'll check the sheet again

[fierce light]

I rarely go above 2 guarantees before I get a rare

[hidden creek]

[balmy coral]

Once I got a rare on 110 recast and another after 5 recasts.

[north lynx]

Scorching into scorching

dont even need to tell me

[balmy coral]

what I'm not sure is how they set these pities and if it stacks up or varies for every jades.

[north lynx]

Its funny, Im rebuilding my valda burn musket build

I needed to roll mod or scorching

I got windfall

[balmy coral]

mod favors me lately

[north lynx]

the only one I legit needed not to roll

🙏

[hidden creek]

sounds familiar

[north lynx]

Im capped stats too so its like I cant even use it for anything

its just there

waiting on that legend jade ig

[hidden creek]

also they love to try to screw us by putting similar stats on eachother's value

like i got alot of ranged dmg reduction 4%

while its max is 10%

but melee dmg reduct is 4%

[north lynx]

Yeah I keep the sheet on hand cause I used to get fooled by aegis damage

charged and uncharged is like 8

[hidden creek]

yeah i do that to but the point is i'm 100% certain they appeared on those value because they were coded so

when u rerolling a rare for a high value stat

[north lynx]

Mopst of them I have memorized

but like odd ones

rage/s i have to look for

[hidden creek]

aegis dmg 4%, charged/uncharged aegis dmg 8%, but when you rolling and get charged/uncharged aegis dmg, the time that it appeared to be 4% is ALOT

[north lynx]

tru

[thorn narwhal]

they should let us stack pities/guarantees for later use
and they should add option to stop auto recast on a max value attribute

[north lynx]

This

Its not even bound to a jade

it seems to be bound to the stat rerolled

so if you decide to move to another stat for w.e reason it has its own pity

[exotic canopy]

do people actually queue this

[north lynx]

^^ not confirmed just from personal experience

[exotic canopy]

are legend flux jades craftable?

[north lynx]

no

you only can get the 3 per season

[hidden creek]

def should save them and wait for curio

[fierce light]

Can't seem to find the table where they're actively recording the rates of rares, but they still say 95 is the average amount on the document.

[cursive fable]

i wonder if there is a whitelist in this game

like people who spend more money gets better rng lol

[hidden creek]

nah

how ever i believe there's a ''luck'' stat bounded to each account though

some account is just luckier than others

[balmy coral]

@crimson cave rt looks awesome

[zinc viper]

I miss playing this game

[crimson cave]

best gaem

i need to delete naraka and to get lost in CO again

jesus it was so good

lune so good

i miss lune

lune >>>> anyone

have you finished main story (3d arc?)

[fierce light]

Looks like they're in the village

Forget what those things are called

[thorn narwhal]

[balmy coral]

Ye Gestral village.

I got maelle's weapon too

wish they'd add path trace Clair's world is beautiful

[quaint girder]

Why are you pubbing? Just clear solo it's braindead easy

[balmy coral]

Not yet.

[fierce light]

Gestral Village is towards the end of act 1 iirc

[balmy coral]

I'm not sure but I'm on Equie

Golgra is menace shit 1 hit me.

[lone umbra]

Is reset today?

[balmy coral]

Tomorrow. It's back to usual.

[fierce light]

Yeah even at max level she hits hard

[lone umbra]

Oki

[fierce light]

Well idk I fought her the first time on ng+

[lone umbra]

I got up early today thinking reset is today.. now I can chill

[lone umbra]

That is why I m going poison thunder mark build . Less rare requirment

Yesterday recasted to get windfall took 300 crystals. It first gave mod then scorching and then at hard pity windfall

[signal kite]

Wdym by hard pity it could have given you mod or scorching again , there no pity for rare or is there

[lone umbra]

Hard pity for getting rare

Not pity for windfall

[signal kite]

[lone umbra]

It took 150 crystals to get rare which is hard pity

I was just lucky that I got windfall that time

[balmy coral]

Same on my soul drawing it took 350 crystals

[plain spire]

Mobile only release hero ? https://www.tiktok.com/@0zebrac4/video/7553231866019548434?_r=1&_t=ZS-8zz8EQL41Iu

[lone umbra]

yes

[turbid agate]

wow, thats soo dumb lol

she looks really cool

[lone umbra]

we may get it later sometime

[plain spire]

Crazy she looks cool

[lone umbra]

not sure though

[hidden creek]

depends if CN is mad about it

[lone umbra]

that is why i said "may"

[hidden creek]

[civic canyon]

Wdym reset

[crimson cave]

@zinc viper at max lvl she dont have a chance to hit usually lol

[zinc viper]

Lol hi XD

[crimson cave]

lol sorry

hhh

lune from clair obscure i suppose

[zinc viper]

[crimson cave]

feet pics inc??

[lone umbra]

fatigue reset

[civic canyon]

What happens if i didnt spend it

Do i get a compensation

[fierce light]

I forgot I didn't fight her till NG+, so she probably was much easier than my first try

[lone umbra]

yea

some fragments

[cursive kestrel]

I got 2 rares this week in 200crystals, acceptable even if it's not that useful

[lone umbra]

that is acceptable but getting right rares is

[cursive kestrel]

thunderproof with mod?

waiting to be deconstructed

[lone umbra]

slap that tproof poison build

[crimson cave]

ng+ is much much easier than first game

[lone umbra]

why not roll again?

[crimson cave]

it started getring somewhat hard only past ng+5-6

[fierce light]

Well I skipped straight from Act 2 to Act 3 to NG+, not aware I was technically under geared.

And after they patched a lot of things out

[cursive kestrel]

I now have 1 flux with 5 shards

I don't wanna invest now tbh

Just lucky

[lone umbra]

[lone umbra]

makes sense

i just tried out my luck as well... i will see if i wanna build poison later around peak

[cursive kestrel]

I also wait for peak, make one new build doesn't sound bad btw

[lone umbra]

I m going for poison only bcoz it is cheap

[cursive kestrel]

make sense

[lone umbra]

rest i m saving up for inferno

[cursive kestrel]

I just misunderstood that I have 2mods in pestilent pool, actually I have 2windfalls noxious blast is the one I have 2mods

[lone umbra]

woah

you can try going full poison build instead of putting tpull + t proof. The plus side tpull+tproff is you can keep ur defuse meter fill most times

dont have to wait boss attacks for that

[cursive kestrel]

they force us to defuse too much that simple attacks do minimum to the meter

even defuse raging flame doesn't look like it takes forever to fill the meter

[lone umbra]

also other W is when poison mark is active defusing thunder does farts which helps to proc toxin blast faster

[cursive kestrel]

[lone umbra]

💯

[cursive kestrel]

[lone umbra]

perfect dodge fills meter the double the amound defuse fills

[cursive kestrel]

this is hit or miss

[lone umbra]

use at risk

[civic canyon]

So i dont have to farm and still get full value then right

[cursive kestrel]

mostly miss

[lone umbra]

i m not sure about full value

but it is like 10-15 jades

[civic canyon]

Also i finnaly beat narritis hard as solo with level 6

🗣️

[civic canyon]

So its better to just farm them then?

[lone umbra]

yep

[fickle linden]

levels dont matter in nirriti's

[lone umbra]

i think he meant fire forge?

[civic canyon]

My skill issue is high 💔

Idk how to play the gamemode

If i stack attack i get killed

If i build tank i can finish the difficulty but its still risky and takes long unless i get good animas

[rotund forge]

☠️ wtf is account error

@chilly kestrel

game tweaking

[chilly kestrel]

idk

[lone umbra]

@rotund forge afk?

[rotund forge]

the game is cooking me with account errors

[tribal bone]

nice nice

they want u to touch grass

[rotund forge]

bruh I have been touching it entire month and playing the game less

[tribal bone]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-doakes-curious-suspicious-questioning-gif-14390669560130901665

[soft pelican]

is there a niriti hero tier list

[tribal bone]

Justina >

And 1 ziping for NS and legend

[soft pelican]

man i kinda just wanna play yueshan but him being mid at everything sucks

[fickle linden]

he was too good for too long

[quaint girder]

Level 6 is too low. You should be farming normal until you finish some of your Quests and Fire Forge

Farming hard is easy around level 40

I'd recommend Zippy for easy farm

Showdown is all about farming when you first start

[lone umbra]

showdown lvl dont matter in nirriti iirc

just fireforge matters

and hero lvl

[quaint girder]

Oh rite

Either way, guy is too low to constantly challenge higher levels, it's an inefficient use of time

[amber terrace]

[lone umbra]

[north lynx]

ehh

I think he could farm hard

[north lynx]

Kylin is also comparable to justina tbh

[cursive kestrel]

a bit risky if there's toxin mushrooms

[chilly kestrel]

yolo

[civic canyon]

Wtf is that

[lone umbra]

Those mushroom are deadlier than boss in NS and legend

And that hell hole

[bold ice]

Niritti ruins exclusive progress path

Based on the rings you choose, you have to go as deep as possible into each ring type to up your stats

[cursive kestrel]

along with that red jellyfish 💀

that shit scarier than toxin mushrooms for me

[balmy coral]

Next reset nirriti run who wants to join?

[quaint girder]

Nirriti's Progression System. It's independent of your Showdown Level and Potential Tree. Showdown Level and Potential Tree have no effect when you're in Nirriti's Ruins. Nirriti's Ruins only uses Fire Forge to determine your strength when diving into the Ruins.

Fire Forge is upgraded through certain Season Quests and completing your Anima Ring Codex. The more your Fire Forge is filled out, the stronger you become in Nirriti's.

I strongly recommend just focusing on playing Nirriti's Normal and chasing after Fire Forge progression until you're about 10/20 then farm Hard for Souljades and Season Quest progression.

[balmy coral]

Hard is manageable at first try as long as u know which type of rings u have to pick.

[lone umbra]

Meanwhile we did legend when fire forge was lvl 10

[cursive kestrel]

as long as we don't meet new bosses yet, chill

[lone umbra]

That is scary

[lone umbra]

Yeah

Legend was something before justina/zip

[balmy coral]

I still have not done Legend. There's no need to do it.

I only needed the potential points from seasonal quests. I'll leave it for next time.

[lone umbra]

For that and seasonal quest

[quaint girder]

I won't say it's not managable, but in my opinion it seems woefully time ineffecient for progression.

[cursive kestrel]

play tarka canon and spam F

[quaint girder]

As someone who just started to get into Showdown, they'd want to max out Fire Forge, Showdown Level, and Season Quest progression ASAP.

[balmy coral]

Ye when u are starting but if u can bring someone it'd help a lot. Normal drops is just type shi

[quaint girder]

Along with hoarding all gems and souljades

[quaint girder]

Absolutely, if someone can carry in hard and do the lifting for your it gives you so much value for your fatigue

[strong kiln]

Also do luck in the curio apply to Nirith

[balmy coral]

Nope

[lone umbra]

Nope

[strong kiln]

understandable

[lone umbra]

Apply luck there too

[balmy coral]

Rework that shi for once

[lone umbra]

Want to get 9 crystals everyrun

[lone umbra]

Yeah.. luck + build buying option like old nirriti

To make grind atleast interesting

[strong kiln]

ngl, right now my Nirith run is swarm + holding M1

[north lynx]

Yin yang bonuses apply in nirriti

[quaint girder]

that's so old

[strong kiln]

thank you kind sirr

[lone umbra]

where does it say that?

[north lynx]

I'm losing my mind

I swear it did

[north lynx]

It may not, I no longer get the pop up

[lone umbra]

nah it was never

[north lynx]

@fierce light did yin yang curio work in ruins ever?

[north lynx]

You gotta be right

[tribal bone]

me when i see poison mushrooms on 15th wave: F i shouldve picked the bow rings

[balmy coral]

Iirc only Justice Chamber luck applies to nirriti

[fickle linden]

no

[lone umbra]

yes only that which is a very big number

[fickle linden]

600

yinyang bonus is much bigger

[rotund forge]

idk man it isn't guaranteed like justina and ziping combo

50/50 u win or die

But one ziping mandatory

U take anyone

[signal kite]

[fierce light]

Nope

[balmy coral]

u go thunder the positive on kylin is burning every boss with ult in seconds with thunder generally faster than Justina.

But if u were unlucky with Element rings then .. it makes things harder

[fierce light]

Probably something like this:

[fickle linden]

yoto had good 1 month

well she was F tier in nirriti during that time too but atleast good in other modes

[lone umbra]

💯

cant wait curio to come back

[lone umbra]

also you forgot valda

[balmy coral]

I'd play zip solo if mod rings were more frequent.

[lone umbra]

tessa that bad ?

[fierce light]

She lacks AoE outside of her Skill and Ultimate, Bow is pretty bad without Scattershot Enhance & Elemental Arrows, and Dual Halberds are rather average in DPS.

[subtle bramble]

is this pre deadeye?

[fierce light]

Can barely hit the flying enemies

[balmy coral]

Wuchen is fun in a team but solo he's too slow

[fierce light]

No.

[balmy coral]

Would be fun if they'd really let us use Elemental arrows in nirriti

Or add an element for range in general since pistol would benefit from it.

[fierce light]

Yeah Ruins is so behind in stuff it can add

and then we have bs rings like Mighty Counter Resonance, that literally would only provide a very slight benefit to parry chains.

[balmy coral]

A better nirriti feels like a good dream.

[fierce light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAG1GkNW7Yk

Thunder Mark Chain gameplay.

[quaint girder]

lmao actually just dodging and spamming DT with moderation

[north lynx]

Wow this seems horrible!

😐

[balmy coral]

I'm not sure what to feel bout the mark meta feels braindead

[fierce light]

Pretty meh for mobbing, but for bossing I can see it breaking Aegis pretty fast.

[north lynx]

Meta is a word

Idk if I'd use it but it do be a word

[balmy coral]

I hope it dies when curio comes out again

[fierce light]

It will cause of Yoto

[balmy coral]

and valda prolly? maybe

[fierce light]

Well there's still a slot

But Yoto stops there from being any attacks to dodge

I only really see Ziping using the new Mark jades for Curios

Not even sure what they could do for the General Curio for it. Maybe multiple marks for mobbing or faster charge?

[north lynx]

Mark looks...not very good

Idk

[fierce light]

She probably would still prefer Dual Chain with Sutra.

[lone umbra]

All those build are on par with ice surge

[balmy coral]

At least I don't have to deal with mark with kylin

[lone umbra]

He can choke choke choke choke

[balmy coral]

I actually hate how it stalls you in animation after using F

I had to stupidly tap dodge every time

[lone umbra]

The only second fun i find with this is justina Fs

[calm kestrel]

Looks fun. But the damage is lacklustre. I feel like it’s only really good for aegis shredding in trios.

[lone umbra]

Cut the boss

[balmy coral]

Ye those crazy dash jump chain

Can't do it

[lone umbra]

Can can... don't jump do lmb attack

[balmy coral]

will try

[lone umbra]

But getting mod

[balmy coral]

I actually wanna try it

but even Xbox has a sweaty Justina leaderboard

[fierce light]

Justina Skill deals 3x Aegis DMG, while the follow-up does 10x. So it could lead to some insane Aegis DPS.

[lone umbra]

Yeah

[fierce light]

Yeah I stopped playing Justina when Kylin came out. Too much for controller player me.

[lone umbra]

I wanna try it too.

[balmy coral]

Kylin is so fun just stupidly annoying without banner now

[fierce light]

I'm having fun on Kylin with Thunder Scorch Surge.

[lone umbra]

How does thunder mark compare to poison thunder?

[balmy coral]

I want more of his ult uptime

[fierce light]

Getting faster clear of the new mission only using ult towards the end some reason than I am on Akos.

[balmy coral]

actually let me check later if it's viable to do thunder mark

[fierce light]

A lot more Hero and Elemental DPS, but I think the Toxin Blasts make make it on-par.

Well

On Yueshan and probably Justina, Thunder Mark should be stronger.

[lone umbra]

Ye it does crazy blast

[balmy coral]

@lone umbra are u gonna run nirriti right after reset?

[fierce light]

Cause Yueshan is doing 3000% Attack per Skill in his Ultimate, while a Toxin Blast does 4800% Attack.

[lone umbra]

Not right after. I would be sleeping 😴

[balmy coral]

Oh

[lone umbra]

But in the morning

[balmy coral]

I'm not sure what time I'll be up. I will play Clair after work

[lone umbra]

I mostly will be full party with bunny and a friend.

[balmy coral]

Ye I run solo last week til nightmare

[lone umbra]

You can join with @chilly kestrel though

[balmy coral]

If my friend is not up

[drowsy crow]

[lone umbra]

[lone umbra]

I like justina gameplay. I might try that too. But mods

[exotic canopy]

this reminds me, should poison be better on Yueshan than ice? or is it more competitive than on other Heroes?

[fierce light]

No. Yueshan's Martial Skills are probably the worst in the game at the moment and he doesn't have access to Finisher attacks on Polesword. Ice also has a shorter cooldown due to Frozen Blast, allowing him to use Skill more often.

[exotic canopy]

lol i was onto nothing thank you

[fickle linden]

74k void coins in zone 1

https://tenor.com/view/money-gif-27551232

some light shopping for 1st boss

[dusty wharf]

ns ?

[cold needle]

i am trying to make a feria shen lightning build but i dont have the meter for divine lightning even tho all souldjades are thunder wielding including one element surge i think i might be missing something. can someone help me?

[fierce light]

Thunderpull, Defuse · Thunder Charge, and Phantom Charge are the only 3 jades that can build Thundershock on yourself (the meter for Divine Thunder builds).

[quaint girder]

TProof is another indirect one.

TProof reduces the maximum bar for DT on yourself making it easier to proc on yourself

[cold needle]

that move that makes the second charged vertical strike aegis marshal skill(nunchucks) be infused with lightning is also with those 3 only?

[quaint girder]

Thunderous Lotus as well

[fierce light]

Are you talking about Bolts? Those are separate from Divine Thunder.

[quaint girder]

Sounds like Bolts

[short meadow]

@lone umbra @drowsy crow

[quaint girder]

That's completely different

[cold needle]

no not bolts

i see yellow lightning with it

it was in a one of those try out charcters so i cant see it again

[fierce light]

Serpent's Whisper jade?

That only affects the 1st stage charge though

[short meadow]

Hey Dark. Whats up

[fierce light]

Hey

[cold needle]

im not sure tho

why does it say dealing damage adds to the meter then

[short meadow]

It's been a long time.

[cold needle]

this is the attack i am talking about

the effect i am trying to get adds yellow lightning to makes it faster and increases damage

[fierce light]

That's Dragon Roar.

[fierce light]

Yeah it has, welcome back.

[fierce light]

Enemies have a separate meter that's hidden. It causes them to explode in a burst of electricity when it fills for them.

[cursive fable]

hi dark

what you doign for first 600 fatigue

straigh up nitirri?

[fierce light]

Ruins all the way pretty much

[cold needle]

so what is it that adds yellow lightning effect to it?

[fierce light]

What jades do you have on?

[cold needle]

some thunder wielding related ones but i dont think that is relevant i am sure i dont have the one i am looking for

[fickle linden]

there's no reason to run anything else than nirriti

crystals more valuable than fragments

[cold needle]

i went to training so i can put any souljade compination and somehow i still cant find it

i tried a lot of combinations but i only get the bolts and divine thunder hits and counters hits

[fierce light]

Are you seeing a lightning effect on the attack itself? Or on the enemy? Cause you might just be seeing Thundershock accumulate on them from your Thunder-Wielding.

Dragon's Roar does enough accumulation to proc it in on mobs without aegis in one go.

[cold needle]

yellow lightning that courses through the arms outwards towards enemy's and also on the ground in a moderate area but that bit is a visual effect only

[fierce light]

You have an extreme Nunchuck skin?

[cold needle]

no thats not it

[fierce light]

Any way you can make a clip?

[cold needle]

no i only saw it when playing with one of those try out characters and of course no videos on youtube i found about it