👾┃showdown

[hidden creek]

then it's tarka valda yoto

previous season despite justina being the most op like

the whole season, and i was so sure she gonna be a must in yama trio competing

but when curio release

[fierce light]

Only thing I can think of is Kylin's passive in his Ultimate.

Demon Mark does damage when your Element Meter fills.

Akos looks like he'll be fun to mob with.

I'm still getting used to him with bossing. He's messing up my dodge cancel timing with his Wild Sweeps.

[hidden creek]

i'd still love a zip mobber though

global F and V

[balmy coral]

global F seems impossible since she already got a dedicated curio

[hidden creek]

the buff

bruh

[balmy coral]

which?

I didn't check her

[hidden creek]

increase damage and element accumulation for teammate

and provide shield

[balmy coral]

No I mean- it's not global

[hidden creek]

it's not? maybe i remember it wrong then, maybe just her V being global

[lone umbra]

this new poison seems viable it is poison thunder mark..

CN cooking up that one

[balmy coral]

Im dumb mb

[hidden creek]

that's a weird name

poison and thunder? hmm

why though

what's its perk

[lone umbra]

idk what to name

tpull and tproof fill defuse meter

and boss atk defuse activate seal

[hidden creek]

so they defuse the dthunder?

[lone umbra]

yes

[hidden creek]

i see

[lone umbra]

toxin blast occurs fast

[hidden creek]

yeah

[lone umbra]

my random stat build cleared in 52 sec yama on wuchen

[hidden creek]

can see it being cracked on akos

his wild sweep defuse is quick

[lone umbra]

ye he too

[hidden creek]

but again

this build rely too much on defuse

[lone umbra]

yeah

[hidden creek]

so the actual dps variation gonna be huge between theory and real fights

[lone umbra]

there is a varient on akos version i need to see it though

[lone umbra]

i did in topaz and yama

yama clear was 52/53 sec on wuchen

[fierce light]

Going to stock up on at least 1000 Crystals and Fragments before I work on it some more.

Should be enough time to see if it's competitively viable.

[lone umbra]

yea and that poison build require 6 windfall for cheap start

12 windfall if wanna go max

[fierce light]

Yeah, I don't see it doing much Poison Blast DMG in comparison to Hit DMG from Toxin Blasts, so probably
x6 Attack, x6 DMG to Bosses, x12 [Windfall]

[lone umbra]

Ye that

[fierce light]

Although, you could probably swap out Thunderproof for Pestilent Pool if you're really confident

That'll increase the Poison Blast DMG from Savage Elemental Seal.

[dusk plover]

It might of been a test server thing then. I remember seeing a jade or something where while you’re linked they take the damage you take or “would take”

[fierce light]

Thunderbind Spell increases the Divine Thunder DMG you take, which is 0 anyway.

[dusk plover]

I haven’t looked at all the demon mark nodes but wasn’t there something that shares the damage you take on whatever you’re marked to?

[fierce light]

Savage Elemental Seal deals damage to your marked target when your Element Meter fills.
Demonbane Mark multiplies the damage marked targets take by 1.12.

[lone umbra]

Yeah but then not sure if one toxin blast can fill thunder meter fully to proc it instantly. And you get stagger if missed

[fierce light]

Yeah it's iffy

[dusk plover]

Did they change it where the only damage they take is the elemental damage you would have taken or is it still all damage?

[fierce light]

Thunderproof does at least allow you to charge Thundershock 25% faster.

[fierce light]

I mean, aside from Toxin from Poison, the elements don't deal any damage to you.

[dusk plover]

Thunder if you don’t parry/defuse

[fierce light]

Savage Elemental Seal is it's own damage source. Hits slightly weaker than Chain Crush, but can activate more often

They removed the damage from Divine Thunder some time ago.

Just staggers now.

[dusk plover]

Oh yeah forgot about that

F me let me find the clip

Okay no I think I just miss understood it from the test server 😓

It was the defuse thunder thing doing the procs after it filled

Just was so quick in some of the things I saw and the translation made it seem like it was damage you take going towards/damaging them too

[fierce light]

Phantom Charge makes it fill up your own Thundershock, while Thunderbind Spell allows you to continously proc Divine Thunder on enemies.

[dusk plover]

Yeah I was seeing some wild thunder builds with the new stuff on enigma bosses

[fierce light]

Kinda like Tarka's Awakened Curio

[dusk plover]

Yep

Now that was wild when it came out lol

[gaunt meadow]

Can i take some advice which element build good match for wuchen

[rotund forge]

idk man these days I'm having addiction of touching grass

I feel bored infront of the computer

yea I don't even feel like playing

[fierce light]

Poison still.

[gaunt meadow]

poison and dodge build?

[fierce light]

Yes.

Defuse · Poison Charge, Miasma Boon, Mushroom Summoning, Infectious Touch, Thunderpull, & Thunderproof

[misty bridge]

Is swarm build good for wuchen/tianhai? or is it better to go for a melee build for them

[fierce light]

Swarm is also really good

[gaunt meadow]

mhm

[fierce light]

For Swarm:
Element Surge, Pestilent Pool, Miasma Drive, Renewed Vigor, Backfire, & Shattered Edge

Could replace Shattered Edge with Defuse · Poison Charge as well if you're dodging often.

[misty bridge]

Potentials are just the red ones? or which ones

[fierce light]

Yeah most of red, just skip Essence Burst, then go for Untouchable Talent in Green.

[lone umbra]

Ohh nice I would only have to work on 1 jade if i go for swarm build.. rest are from yoto build and got 5 windfall and 3 mod

Though need to recast attr to range dmg

[white dawn]

Is poison build back to life in this season?

[fierce light]

Just got 38s on it with Kurumi, although it's not the Thunderpull version.

~50% built

[lone umbra]

Try it with tpull .. my 14% build could do 53 sec on wuchen. You can def do better than mine

[white dawn]

[fierce light]

Thunderpull version only ~38% built, doesn't help Kurumi as much since it's just one extra defuse.

I'll try it on Wuchen though.

[white dawn]

Is there a list for meta builds for this season?

[fierce light]

Not yet, still in Theorycrafting stage.

[white dawn]

Then I'll stick with my PLM for longer.

[fierce light]

Poison Mark builds should definitely be better than PLM though.

[white dawn]

I just came back after a break and I have no resources left.

[thorn narwhal]

defuse being the only wait to apply demonbane mark is inconvenienti feel the mid season jades that will drop later will have new better ways to do that

[fierce light]

Dodges apply and charge it better

[thorn narwhal]

i mean it still depends on getting aggro, same thing

[fierce light]

Unless you're Akos, then Wild Sweeps are better than anything.

Yeah

Wish the mark at least lasted longer than 15s

Kinda like playing Skyfire all over again.

[white dawn]

What soul jades should be swapped and is it still the same windfall and moderation as attributes?

[fierce light]

Remove

• Toxified Lotus
• Ghastbloom
• Venomous Lotus (if on)
  Add
• Defuse · Poison Charge
• Miasma Boon
• Mushroom Summoning

[thorn narwhal]

how long does the mark remain tho it doesn't mention that

[fierce light]

Just 15s

[thorn narwhal]

hmm disappointing

[fierce light]

I think you can refresh the duration, but I'm not sure

Was expiring in Free Training despite spamming Defuses.

[white dawn]

Thank you!

I'll grind for them.

[dusty wharf]

mushroom ?

[misty bridge]

Skip toxic blow too?

[hidden creek]

yea u can

[fierce light]

Select Thunder Element and go for Thunder Smash.

Swarm benefits heavily from Counterstrikes

[hidden creek]

gosh

theoretically speaking akos gameplay could be VERY cool

specially with the new seal stuffs

but god it's hard to control

[misty bridge]

Oh so element surge thunder weild?

[fierce light]

Yeah, it's a struggle trying to learn the new boss while also learning Akos.

[fierce light]

No, Poison-Wielding

[misty bridge]

Wtf, so why thunder wielding?

[hidden creek]

he's like the first character that you don't really want to release ur charge attacks and don't even want to defuse the classic way

[fierce light]

Pestilent Pool activates Poison Surge, which activates Element Fury and Element Afterglow.

Thunder on the Potential changes Toxic Blow to Thunder Smash, which doubles the damage of Counterstrikes.

[hidden creek]

just hold then wild sweep

everything starts with that

[misty bridge]

Oh ok ok i understand now

Thank you

[fierce light]

Starting to get away from using Cloud Weaver so much. It's heavily backloaded, so if you have to cancel it, that you miss out on 65% of its damage if you have to cancel before the last hit.

[hidden creek]

yeah

like

poison seal akos still need to release his aegis break

but thunder seal

literally all you do are wild sweeping

[fierce light]

A quick Ice rotation would be Hold Skill → Wild Sweep → Skill 3rd Stage → Iron Hand (Charged Horizontal).

[hidden creek]

and spamming F

imagine

if his defuse send out an attack

like yoto

defuse flaming blade gonna be crazy on him

[fierce light]

Yeah Defuse Burn probably the one build he would feel a little awkward on.

[thorn narwhal]

hmm lucky break ends up with 800+ on 6x luck no windfalls, don't think is worth it

can't wait for cannon deadeye remake, will be the only fun build to mob while having luck hope they add it with zai soon

[fierce light]

Yeah you need at least 5001 Luck for it to be worth over Blessed.

[chilly helm]

is this ok?

or this?

[hidden creek]

this is thunder scorch build so you gonna need scorchings on them jades, also imbue them with ice not thunder
you mostly parry on this build so idk if you should run defuse raging flame

[hidden creek]

this is ice lotus build which is good with moderation, but i'd replace tundra might with elemental surge ice wielding

[fierce light]

Oh gosh, just tried the Poison-Thunder build on Akos. Felt terrible cause his Defuse Counterattack is so slow.

[fierce light]

That Ziping Yin build is the old Ice Lotus build. It still works, but can just replace Tundra Might with Element Surge (Ice-Wielding).

So far this what I got for new builds only:

Season 4.0 New Builds

Ice

Ice Mark

-# Parry the Freeze effect after every 2 Ice Blasts for a big burst of damage, especially on Ice Marked targets.

• Defuse · Frostbind, Successive Ice Blast, Frozen Blast, Depths Blast, Frost Quake, & Ice-Edge Seal

Thunder

Thunder Mark Chain

-# Focuses on Thunder Marks, spamming Skills, and Chain Crush.

• Defuse · Thunder Charge, Thunderbind Spell, Arcane Stratos, Defuse · Solidification, Element Surge · Thunder-Wielding, & Thunder Chain.

Thunder Mark Lotus

-# Focuses on Thunder Marks, spamming Skills, and Lotus.

• Defuse · Thunder Charge, Thunderbind Spell, Elemental Lotus, Ghastbloom, Arcane Stratos, & Defuse · Solidification.

Poison

Poison-Thunder Mark

-# Focuses on Poison Marks and Divine Thunder for fast activations of Toxin Blasts.

• Defuse · Poison Charge, Miasma Boon, Mushroom Summoning, Infectious Touch, Thunderpull, & Thunderproof.

Poison Mark

-# Focuses on Poison Marks and setting off Toxin Blasts from Elemental Bursts.

• Defuse · Poison Charge, Noxious Blast, Pestilent Pool, Infectious Touch, Miasma Boon, & Mushroom Summoning.

Ranged

Poison Surge Bow

-# Fights up close to activate Poison Surge for additional buffs and slight AoE.

• Toxic Arrows, Scattershot Enhance, Element Surge (Poison-Wielding), Pestilent Pool, Miasma Drive, Backfire | Renewed Vigor.

Poison Surge Swarm

-# Fights up close to activate Poison Surge for additional buffs and slight AoE.

• Element Surge (Poison-Wielding), Pestilent Pool, Miasma Drive, Backfire, Renewed Vigor & Shattered Edge.

[turbid agate]

Are these just new builds or how good are they? Especially the thunder ones, what characters are they good on?

[fierce light]

They're just new, how they compare to old is unknown

[chilly helm]

how to get this lvls?

[fierce light]

Do your Weekly Challenges and completing any Mission with Fatigue enabled.

[cursive fable]

@fierce light hi dark

you planning on saving the giga rare crystals?

[fierce light]

Depends on the situation at the end of the season

I still have the regular Flux Jades and Flux Shards

[thorn narwhal]

can't wait for devs to bait all players into building infinite skills spam builds for them to put eerie ent omen at last stages

[fierce light]

I'm glad they've been making the last stage only have Combat Drive tbh

But yeah Eerie Ent is cancerous, I hate that it's common in Enigma Peak · Poison

[thorn narwhal]

everytime im about to hit skill or ult, they turn red. "oh its that that time of the year again"

[chilly helm]

you tther?

[chilly helm]

jooin voice with me and create best things for some builds?

i will show u jades i got etc

[chilly helm]

u have time?

[fierce light]

One sec,

[fierce light]

Okay, ready

[chilly helm]

yes

[fierce light]

Just got 25s with Tianhai Swarm lol

[chilly helm]

im in voice

[fierce light]

Did you read what I said in chat?

[chilly helm]

what chat

i didnt see any chat man

[fierce light]

The VC chat

[chilly helm]

ah

i dont even know

[fierce light]

Oh I thought you read Copper Ward

[chilly helm]

i saw only this

copper

then nothing more

[fierce light]

Well do you have [Scorching] attributes?

[chilly helm]

this?

[fierce light]

Nope, on your current jades, do you have any with [Scorching]?

[chilly helm]

no

[fierce light]

Ah, then you're not going to be able to do much damage Burn damage

I'd say stick to that Ice Lotus build for now

[fierce light]

Thunder Scorch build is unusable without [Scorching] Attributes.

You want this Potential for Ice Lotus:

[chilly helm]

Yes but

What jades

I have on everything thunder

[fierce light]

These

[chilly helm]

This play on akos?

[fierce light]

Usable on anyone

[shrewd basin]

Ummmm is this an oversight? I thought blue jades weren’t a thing anymore?

Can’t remove them

[hidden creek]

convert them

[shrewd basin]

Thanks 🙏

[chilly helm]

any good jades for matari?

[fierce light]

You can use that build for anyone

Getting 4x [Moderation] attributes will allow you to use your Skill whenever Ice Blast happens.

[slow ridge]

Off topic but is the increase ice blast damage thing in the surge tree a bug? Like it not switching

[viscid wraith]

I think it's not a bug

[slow ridge]

I’m probably missing some context for why it would be intentional

[fierce light]

It's just a port of Volatile Freeze from last season. It only buffed Ice Blast DMG last time.

[chilly helm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-RoL3DD6L8&t=2s watch out

[lone umbra]

@fierce light did you try poison thunder mark on wuchen?

[fierce light]

Oh i forgot, was competing with another Xbox player with Kurumi Poison lol

I'll do it later when I get back

[lone umbra]

[exotic canopy]

who wants to be my borrow hero buddy so we farm those 12 fragments and popularity points every week

[fierce light]

I'd help, but normally have someone for that

[fierce light]

I tried it, think I prefer Swarm build on him lol

[lone umbra]

How was it not good at all?

[fierce light]

His defuse sends him too far back

Maybe more comfortable on Mouse with high sense

But felt weird on controller

[lone umbra]

Yeah have to be a quick to turn direction

I myself getting used to it on mouse

[fierce light]

Probably would prefer it on Ziping

[lone umbra]

Yeah zippin and feria too i guess it don't want to use her musket

[lone umbra]

Build is powerful enough, right? Not like old shit poison

[fierce light]

Yeah Poison Mark already felt pretty powerful

This Yama's boss is just bad for it

Well mainly cause all the transformations wasting time

[lone umbra]

Yeah

[fierce light]

Got 37s so far on Kurumi with half built Poison Mark

45s when I tried Poison-Thunder Mark on Wuchen, granted that one is only ~35% built

[lone umbra]

53s on wuchen 14% build stat ...target build was 6 wf version

[fierce light]

Probably could be faster if I switch to Dodge Prowess

Since the aegis is very weak rn

[lone umbra]

Very close to swarm timing in SEA server but they don't even use proper swarm jades

[fierce light]

I got 25s on Swarm

[lone umbra]

It is good swarm uses most of yoto jades

Utilising that will have 5 wf and 3 mod

[fierce light]

Good point, might spec into it more

Oh wait the mod

[lone umbra]

Yeah

[fierce light]

Well that's fine, more Skilled Attack Chant proc

[lone umbra]

I would only have 2 slot for non rare. Ranged should be preferred or dmg to boss?

[fierce light]

DMG to Boss

Cause of Toxin Blasts. Not that boss lives long enough for it currently.

https://youtu.be/DrgEvX58UdE

[lone umbra]

What would be ideal deadeye rate?

[fierce light]

I have 0

[lone umbra]

Ahh

I m planning long term so think between 10-20%?

[fierce light]

Hard to say if it has any thresholds

Fires so many bullets

[lone umbra]

I m recast and fix attrs from yoto build to dmg to boss from last paragon

Just have to work on shattered edge

[fierce light]

Hmm it might have a threshold. Full clip looks like it did around 40%. So possibly around 25%

[lone umbra]

great

But i m tempted to play poison and that thunder skill spam

If skill spam turn out to be good

[fierce light]

Might see it in next week's yama

[lone umbra]

Yeah

Maybe CN cooking on weekly basis based on yama

[fierce light]

Yeah this one favors Thunder Scorch way too much

That plus boss attacks slow and has a lot of 2-hit attack chains that aren't enough to fully charge Mark, unless you're Akos.

[restive wraith]

@lone umbra yo you still playing? how about duck? I can play again but our old guild is inactive now

[lone umbra]

Ye i m still playing. Duck is retired now. We created new guild

[balmy coral]

@lone umbra

Now I can play Clairr again

[restive wraith]

Oh I will miss him :c the best carry I ever seen, you mind letting me in? I will mostly play showdown tho, too noob for pvp lol

[lone umbra]

Yeah we don't mind the mode. As long as active

[lone umbra]

Are you in game?

[signal bronze]

[lone umbra]

[drowsy crow]

[balmy coral]

@amber terrace maxed fatigue yet?

[lone umbra]

Noice suffered enough

[drowsy crow]

Neel pls carry me 😉

[restive wraith]

Im downloading the game will @ you when Im done

[lone umbra]

💀

[drowsy crow]

hehe

[restive wraith]

hope my soul jade arent out of the meta yet lmao

[lone umbra]

[lone umbra]

Lotus is long gone bro

[restive wraith]

well shit

dark zero guide still here Imma follow

[lone umbra]

Yeah but mostly now nirriti only

New season just started

[restive wraith]

ohhh I have good timing then
well I think I missed anniversary

I only want tessa skin which I already got back then, Im chillin
new season -> new jade -> new meta so everyone is grinding right?

[lone umbra]

Yeah

[lone umbra]

there is yet to confirm which new build is meta. For now thunder scorching is back in meta.

And last season ice surge is still meta

[restive wraith]

rip my build hahaha

[dusty wharf]

yup

[restive wraith]

Im not even remember what was it xD poison lotus or something

been a while

[signal kite]

Can't wait for tianhai and temulch to break the game after ti launches with their specific curios

[cursive kestrel]

we need exclusive curio for wuchen too

[viscid wraith]

imagine they gave tianhai the yueshan treatment

[cursive kestrel]

I don't count that lotus one

[strong kiln]

There is currently swarm

Swarm just simply work lol

[chilly kestrel]

@balmy coral damn wheres my thanks?

[balmy coral]

Oh it was u?

[chilly kestrel]

yea

[balmy coral]

Have fun in nirriti

[chilly kestrel]

thank yew

[drifting lance]

🎉 | HM7 leveled up!
ℹ | Level up messages can be disabled for the guild with owo level disabletext

[novel shell]

Show me your kurumi stats 😛

[lone umbra]

Yeah apart from all deadeye build melee builds are in theory crafting

[north lynx]

Swarm or bow?

[north lynx]

I can

[dusk plover]

So happy thunderscorch back. Gotta actually do more inputs then ice surge/lotus lol

[obsidian pond]

anyone have any build guides?

[chilly helm]

this record i need

[amber terrace]

No

300 now

[chilly helm]

where i can get this things?

[calm kestrel]

They’re gone lad.

Have to wait until Tempered Inferno opens again in January.

[tribal bone]

@rotund forge @balmy coral @lone umbra
Do we have updates on new meta builds ?

[lone umbra]

not yet

[balmy coral]

No clue.

Don't build anything yet

[tribal bone]

noted

[tribal bone]

🙏 noted

nirriti grind is L

im not even playing the game

😭

[balmy coral]

I'm maxed out

[tribal bone]

HOW 💀

[lone umbra]

But gotta grind Nirriti if you want to lvl up

[tribal bone]

true

💔

[cursive kestrel]

finally 0%

[lone umbra]

This feels like an achievement, doesn't it?

[signal kite]

Ain't building anything until ti comes back

Meta shifts for some heroes so crazily

Then when ti comes back I'll able to build the NIGHTMARE cn builds for individual heros , boom boom breaks the Yama board everybody will invite to come play yama trios for carry

I love day dreaming

[cursive kestrel]

took me 5 days

[lone umbra]

Sounds like a good plan

[fickle linden]

curios are so stupid lol

first 4 month is waste of time, cant build anything sound

you need new build anyway for last 2 months

which wouldnt be problem if building full build wasn't sucha hassle

goddamn rng

[lone umbra]

If peak can be cleared with ice surge then there is no point to build new

[fickle linden]

like 4 months waiting just for TI to open again lol

[lone umbra]

Meta build gonna change fs when curio comes

[fickle linden]

if it can do it under 8min

[balmy coral]

Tbf what ppl do is grind one build on one account and switch every time but that's not playing that's an effcing job

[fickle linden]

i dont wanna do 8+ min peak runs

[fickle linden]

can't even burn more than 1200 fatigue on one character lol

so much work to play multiple ones

[lone umbra]

I feel it can do. Since there is not much nerf in it. And apart from scorching build there isn't much powerful build

[cursive kestrel]

I just play for fun now competition is depressing

[fickle linden]

maybe i just dont like showdown

i want everything done as fast as possible so i can play as little as i can

lol

[lone umbra]

Yeah SEA is quite impossible for top 3

[lone umbra]

I don't mind 10 min run

[fickle linden]

2.5 season avg peak run took 7-8min with ilm

last season i didnt even bother checking times it was terrible

mobber always behind bossers

[fierce light]

Poison Lotus got nerfed the hardest. No bonus accumulation when you don't have any Lotus. When you do, it's 40%, instead of the 70% it used to have.

[lone umbra]

Most of our runs were 8-9 mins

[fierce light]

You get 10 Chaos Stones every week. You can use those to do 2 crafts. If you haven't already, I strongly recommend doing random craft until everything is at least Level 1.

[fierce light]

Current Yama's favors Thunder Scorch too heavily

[cursive kestrel]

i had so much fun playing akos in nirriti

[fierce light]

A lot more satisfying than Justina imo

Probably can clear faster on average too

[balmy coral]

Justina is still a powerhouse especially in ns and Legend

[hidden creek]

if i got lucky with rings justina is still faster than akos

for me

[cursive kestrel]

i prefer fistblade and he's very versatile i like it

[hidden creek]

fistblade is fun

but the wild sweep auto defuse sometimes is annoying

[balmy coral]

Zai's weapon is knives bet

[hidden creek]

like when you just want to release cloud weaver
then you get hit
then he'll auto defuse

[spiral kernel]

Akos is literrly my fav in showdown currently

[spiral kernel]

Maybe chainblade

[balmy coral]

What

[spiral kernel]

Dont forget

It release next month

Before showdown zai

Si

So

[fierce light]

Yeah definitely, free Skill reset on freeze is nice, but requires lining up lots of enemies to be effective

Yeah with Zai release being late, we could get Chain Blade

[balmy coral]

Ye I love that I can just throw her ult and get a full reset every boss fight

[spiral kernel]

Yep

[hidden creek]

zai will be db

[cursive kestrel]

if u got to pick boss with no astral aegis then justina faster

[spiral kernel]

Tarka is with db

[hidden creek]

akos use fistblade because lore wise he gave his ps to yueshan

[hidden creek]

so?

[spiral kernel]

Thats right

[balmy coral]

Really hope not if it's more edgy then knives

[spiral kernel]

Feirece tiger extreme is akos originaly

And we know akos like fistblades because of the fist looking tiger blades

Said it fits to is hands like it was made for him

[spiral kernel]

She might be chainblade. I can say that it will make sense either db or chainblade

Chainblade as she used to using chain weapons

Db as well its zai weapon on art and all

[hidden creek]

those are 2 diff weapons

[spiral kernel]

Its a chainblade. Its a still chain weapon tabbie

Like her ult

[hidden creek]

it's not

[spiral kernel]

If not the chainblade

[spiral kernel]

We will se when it will be revlead

[hidden creek]

the next weapon is the weapon of matron

not zai's

[spiral kernel]

Its chainblade

Who said its zai?

[hidden creek]

you?

[hidden creek]

?

[spiral kernel]

Its a chain type

[hidden creek]

.

[spiral kernel]

Weapon

I meant

[hidden creek]

so?

[spiral kernel]

Her ult

[hidden creek]

they're still not the same weapon

[hidden creek]

her ult what?

[spiral kernel]

She uses chain type

[spiral kernel]

.

[hidden creek]

type? lmfao

[spiral kernel]

Chain weapons

Etc

Bro

[hidden creek]

by that logic sword and hengsword is the same type of weapon?

[spiral kernel]

Nopem one is single edge

[hidden creek]

yet in game hengsword is katana congeneric

[spiral kernel]

Because its single edge

[hidden creek]

why does it matters?

[spiral kernel]

Bro u dont know then weapons like me.

[hidden creek]

?

[spiral kernel]

Longsword

Is dual edge

Not single

[hidden creek]

so?

[spiral kernel]

Not same blade type

[hidden creek]

it's still a straight sharpen metal object

[fierce light]

I'd say it's pretty close. The 80% Attack from Akos Ult, the buffed Thunder Counter and nerfed Element scaling from Justina Ultimate makes them comparable, if not lean towards Akos favor.

• Justina Ult Ice Tick Dmg: 4.90x Attack
• Thunder Counter Tick Dmg: 3.85x Attack

[hidden creek]

yeah, and zai's ult and matron's sword is the same blade type?

[spiral kernel]

Long swords are good for slashing, stabing, and impact

[hidden creek]

LOL

[hidden creek]

hengsword does the same thing

[spiral kernel]

Katana and heng, litrrrly slashing

[hidden creek]

?

[spiral kernel]

Heng unlike katana

[fierce light]

Edgy?

[hidden creek]

who tell you you can't use a hengsword to stab and impact?

[spiral kernel]

Is also stabing

Yet no impaxt

[spiral kernel]

Typcal irl way of weapons?

[hidden creek]

yet in game they're eachother's congeneric so what are you saying now?

[balmy coral]

Weird weapon

[hidden creek]

no impact?

[spiral kernel]

Heng is an single edge which was made to also stab

Katana is a weapon used for slashing

Bro irl blades u make it like literrly impact

How the edge is

Important

[cursive kestrel]

💯

[balmy coral]

Thunder feels so good on him ngl

[spiral kernel]

Tabbie u know irl swords?

[hidden creek]

so you're saying katana can't be used to stab? gimme a katana and stick ur neck out

[cursive kestrel]

i'd pick akos bcs overall he's good for mobbing too

[hidden creek]

see if it stabs

LOL

[spiral kernel]

It wasnt made to stab

Like i said

It was made

[hidden creek]

who tell you that?

[spiral kernel]

In purpose of slashing

[spiral kernel]

Bro

Go wiki

[hidden creek]

wiki LMFAO

[spiral kernel]

Learn about weapon smiteing

Irl

[hidden creek]

here's ur wiki

what now?

[cursive kestrel]

akos hydroflare in nirriti is also good

[hidden creek]

you need it more than me

[spiral kernel]

Our katana is 2 handed

[spiral kernel]

Nahhh

[rocky oriole]

silly spelling error on Bolt Array in Nirriti

[hidden creek]

LMFAO

[spiral kernel]

Lmafo my ass bro

[hidden creek]

💀

[spiral kernel]

U see it in game

[hidden creek]

bro just take the l

[spiral kernel]

Nahhh

[hidden creek]

you don't know shit

[spiral kernel]

Ik

[hidden creek]

and ur logic make 0 sense

[spiral kernel]

U dont know shit

[hidden creek]

ur iq is like 50 and ur personality is of a child

[spiral kernel]

Nahhh

Tabbie

[lone umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-guy-relaxing-popcorm-popcorn-gif-26404903

[spiral kernel]

Do yourself a fav

And get life

Also

[hidden creek]

first you said kata isn't used to stab, then tell me wiki it, then when the wiki said that kata def can stab and was used to stab you come with the logic of in game kata is 2 handed and there's no stabbing move

LMFAO

if you're talking about in game and ignore irl aspect why even mentioning irl and wiki in the first place?

dumbass

[rocky oriole]

no need to fight over how a sword is used 💀

don't get so angry at each other dawgs

[misty bridge]

Both of you are right lol, why you argue?

[rocky oriole]

^

[spiral kernel]

I am not argue like him

Like i am actually laughing

At tabbie

[hidden creek]

i'm not argue either, i'm educating some dumbf

[rocky oriole]

ok but no need to be mean to each other??

[spiral kernel]

Nahh u dont

[misty bridge]

It's like saying a katana is not made for cutting onions, but you can do it anyways

[spiral kernel]

He mean

Always

So i dont even take it seroius

[rocky oriole]

doubling the hate is not the answer 😔

[hidden creek]

as if i'm taking you serious lmfao

[spiral kernel]

I was told by peps that he is mean

[signal kite]

Are you talking about me coz ur description does meet the criteria of it being me

[spiral kernel]

[signal kite]

[hidden creek]

i don't need anyone to tell me that you're a child though cuz only a child said something like ''in whale category i'm SS tier bcoz i whaled 1000 chests for akos extreme''

[spiral kernel]

Well i am not a child

Because u dont know me

And its discord

[hidden creek]

from what you spewed out i actually do

[cursive kestrel]

geez that fire form new boss really needs chain-defuse heroes

[spiral kernel]

Nahhh

[signal kite]

Whoa whoa chill out guys

[misty bridge]

[spiral kernel]

If u knew me then u would 100% u would be sure i am aint any sorta of a child

[cursive kestrel]

she swings and sways so much that i just do spamming defuse

[spiral kernel]

Discord i can here act like a child, speak like i child, i can act or speak as i like. Way? Because its discord

[spiral kernel]

I am chilled luczy

Its just tabbie thinking he is right all the time

[signal kite]

Same twin

[hidden creek]

i am

[spiral kernel]

Thats what a child think

[cursive kestrel]

this one is worse for me, 2fast

[spiral kernel]

So dont call me child

[hidden creek]

that's what a child would say

[spiral kernel]

Nahhh

[signal kite]

U guys call me a child who knows maybe I am a child u will never know u know

[spiral kernel]

Because adults knows when they are wrong and can also be wrong

[cursive kestrel]

in ns u can chill being hit but not in nirriti

[signal kite]

[cursive kestrel]

[hidden creek]

as if YOU ever admitted that you was wrong lmao

[spiral kernel]

I am

[hidden creek]

where

[spiral kernel]

Actually

Rift chanal

Lore lore chanal

Dissctuion

[hidden creek]

well because you don't have any clue on the subject you jumped in

[spiral kernel]

There were times i said sorry

[hidden creek]

obviously you gonna be wrong

[spiral kernel]

Nahhh

Actullay i do

[lone umbra]

Fast and furious

[spiral kernel]

But i also was wrong on some parts

[cursive kestrel]

this b is worse than yushan imo 😂

[lone umbra]

but she is predictable and throw blues..

My ping can't handle her though

I get executed by her X slash move

[lone umbra]

This b is fine

[cursive kestrel]

she is fine outside of nirriti

[cursive kestrel]

her blue form is ez but red one gotta grab chain defuse heroes

[balmy coral]

It's too fast to parry especially if u are in the middle of recovering frames.

[lone umbra]

news flash: new defuse jades are for her

[lone umbra]

Yeah agreed and other too

[spiral kernel]

1. So tabbie do yourself a fav stop thinking ur always right. Thats an advice.
   2.i from the start said that katana can be used to stab. But was made for slash and cutting more.
2. I dont got time to talk about stuff with a person that thinks he is always right. Cant talk with a person who thinks like that. Its a dead convertstion.
3. I am gonna take a sleep.
4. Dont call other childs without knowing them.
   6.thats the end. I wont reply on subject nor am i wanting to speak with u when u have that way of thinking. See ya when u grow up

[cursive kestrel]

she hit hard with that X slash fr

[fierce light]

I got distracted doing Kurumi Poison yesterday, gonna practice the new boss today

[cursive kestrel]

she releases blue a lot but in nirriti ping, nah u know better defuse than actually parry

[hidden creek]

1: as if i asked for your advice
2: go back and readh what you wrote again if your memory is that short
3: as if i want to talk to you 💀

[lone umbra]

Yeah she too is chain defuse

[spiral kernel]

I wont reply anymore. Ur litrrrly a kid

Bye

[cursive kestrel]

we all agreed to avoid her unless no one got to pick boss at all and boom she was there

gimme 10 water ents

rather than this b

[lone umbra]

[lone umbra]

We picked her quite a lot in NS runs

[signal kite]

My randoms love picking her and then boom we all die , everybody returns to lobby and guess what rematches with exact same randoms TOT they pick her again and cycle continues

[cursive kestrel]

bro fr she is never gonna got picked by my party in ns unless we're unlucky not get to pick

[cursive kestrel]

DEJAVU

[fierce light]

Yeah that's the reason I'm not Lv. 86 cause they decided to pick her while our fire forges were severely under leveled in Nightscream.

[cursive kestrel]

gimme mountain ghost pls

[balmy coral]

I'm 83

I wasted a bit of fatigue in Enigma for testing

[chilly kestrel]

twisted twins is worst than her for me

[cursive kestrel]

facts

[chilly kestrel]

im more than happy when i see omnius rock than twisted twins

[cursive kestrel]

i'll never pick huanyue first form and these twins

[signal kite]

I'm afraid what's coming in future, these boss moves are already going insane

Holy Christ

[balmy coral]

I call em time waster

[cursive kestrel]

without healer is really struggling

[hidden creek]

wait they're twins in the same body? i thought she got multiple personality disorder

[fierce light]

Had a surprising amount of runs with a Kurumi instead of Ziping

[cursive kestrel]

yep they separate in two bodies, red and blue, I saw it in holoroth ns

[hidden creek]

🤔 still could be like a technique or magic or some

i gotta dig around for her lores

[fierce light]

Her double focus attack after being parried kinda threw me off, but so far have managed to parry it everytime

[cursive kestrel]

I dodged around and randomly parry without using brain cells

[fierce light]

Yeah i gotta read the lore, cause she mentions that not even Omnius knows the power of something and the heroes seem to know who she is

[hidden creek]

she only got one name so i doubt that she's 2 person in 1 body

[lone umbra]

It happened in our first run of NS. We were like 5-6 on fire forge and that boss appeared on first boss stage without choosing. That hampered my run

But then we managed to do it

[cursive kestrel]

i ran to her when we had no healer

[lone umbra]

Yeah same we didn't have healer too

[cursive kestrel]

and we all gg

[cursive kestrel]

either i met silence hands or hellhoe

life was hard bro

[lone umbra]

Oh ye silence hits hard for justina

[rocky oriole]

What does the luck attribute do?

also, should I be using it if I'm trying to get a souljade drop?

[fierce light]

Increases the quality of Souljades by some unknown amount. Doesn't work in Ruins though.

[rocky oriole]

thanks!

hopefully this works enought 🙏

[cursive kestrel]

luck in this game is a myth

[rocky oriole]

gotta equip luck souljades before opening treasures

[stone niche]

https://tenor.com/view/lilnouns-nouns-lil-nouns-dao-noggles-gif-27131043

[wind holly]

Anyone down for showdown

[signal kite]

[balmy coral]

I think my highest was 2.2m Justina

but it's Justina could be more despite I had bad rings

[fierce light]

Wow, least you did the most damage though

They didn't go over 5 digits

[balmy coral]

tarka is so good in ruins too if u run thunder

[fierce light]

My highest was 2m on Akos in 4 mins

[balmy coral]

and bolt for that skill cd

[signal kite]

My fav perfect build for ruins is - Lotus 12+ rings (mainly 600+ speed boost ring ) with 4 thunder elemental rings

[fierce light]

Thunder + Lotus w/ Meditation Ring feels pretty good too.

[signal kite]

Any hero with this build will conquer the lobby

[hidden creek]

mine is the counter gust and counter attack that summons additional attack

hits hard like hell

[signal kite]

Have to agree that really hits hard infinite thunder counter

[balmy coral]

That steam shit from hydro feels good too

but even if I commit hydro rings I rarely get it

I'm not sure how much dmg it does

[fierce light]

Yeah, but it loves to give it on zone 12-14. Where you can barely use it for mobbing which it's great at

[balmy coral]

Which is actually disappointing -.-

[fierce light]

That's why I wish we had an option to extend a run.

[wind light]

WHAT IS THIS ( WRONG ANSWER ONLY )

[balmy coral]

That shit we deserve but never had

[autumn badger]

bad dragon's new color combination

[rocky oriole]

what I spent 30 minutes on the toilet working to unload

[heavy gulch]

season 4.5 boss leak

[rocky oriole]

:o

[wind light]

lmao bad dragon

[fickle linden]

i read this with side eye as "I got distracted doing Kurumi Pose yesterday"

i thought u were doing some douyin kurumi cosplayer poses infront of a mirror or something

[zinc path]

Anal bead

[limpid pecan]

hot take

agnivat should be playable hero

[sullen pawn]

that ice outfit would be a hit for sure

[limpid pecan]

ye she would be like

zai 2.0

mega skins 24/7

fun af ult

she could be like zai with switching forms between melee ranged

and some crazy move as ultimate

like the eye lasers

or the rolling balls

infinite money glitch

[sullen pawn]

okay maybe its better if you stop saying that type of shit, they're listening

[fierce light]

A stance switching hero would be great

was one of my favorite archetypes in Smite

[safe stone]

Alguna conta pra vende?

[cursive fable]

@fierce light hi dark

so mostly just 3 build this season?

1.ice, 2 bow 3. thunder scorch?

[fierce light]

I'd reckon Swarm is pretty viable too.

[rocky oriole]

is mark not viable? or just not tested yet

[fierce light]

Non-Burn Curio builds might incorporate Defuse · Poison Charge over Sub-Zero Seal for solo runs.

[fierce light]

It looks viable for solo bossing.

[river stratus]

defuse jade for ranged weapon

[river stratus]

[drifting lance]

🎉 | quaverr leveled up!

[north lynx]

Rank 1 chicken user

[rocky oriole]

discord compression 😭

wtf am I looking at 💀

[river stratus]

nah not discord , recorded at low res

[rocky oriole]

ah gotcha

[fierce light]

That's wild.

[rocky oriole]

bc of the 10 mb limit? or to save space on computer?

[fierce light]

I hope Crossbow Deadeye is good so I can use Yoto without Curios.

[river stratus]

save space i have a lot of clips

[river stratus]

yea

[viscid wraith]

[balmy coral]

Discord doesn't do that anymore iirc but they set a limit

You need nitro for bigger files

[rocky oriole]

Yee

[balmy coral]

bruuuh

[fierce light]

Moderation loves my Kylin build.

[balmy coral]

Same

and scorching

I just need 1 more wf and this Jade got 11232 scorching and mod already

Im done with it

[fierce light]

Pain

[civic canyon]

Im only playing showdown cuz Viper Ning Steps on me with some of her attacks

[cursive fable]

@civic canyon the new boss?

[lone umbra]

viper ning?

[civic canyon]

Yes the one from rift

She has a whip too

She is at the ice part of the map tho

[lone umbra]

i think that is not viper ning

[civic canyon]

Ye idk what she's called

But yknow who i mean 🗣️

[lone umbra]

yea

[north lynx]

You only get scorching

When u don't want it

That's the rule

[balmy coral]

[wispy nacelle]

Is anyone playing games at this time?

[civic canyon]

Wait so whats her name then

Heh

[wispy nacelle]

Is it Ji Yingying?

[cursive fable]

ya i got 2 mod on my thunder set too

with rare crystal

so i just DEed both jade

[lone umbra]

Matron of yushan

viper's mom.. if i m correct. right @hidden creek ?

[civic canyon]

I mean she does look better than Viper ning

[strong kiln]

If you are talking about the lady with the costume similar to Viper's in Lunar shop then yes... That's her mom

[civic canyon]

Yes thats her

I mean if there are more bosses that step on you as an attack tho lmk 🗣️

(except men)

[strong kiln]

The newest boss in showdown does

[strong kiln]

You can get WWE body drop by a dude if you want in showdown lol

[balmy coral]

Can't they fix this annoying shit where my settings get reset all the time enabling DLSS and ray tracing.

[balmy coral]

I'm boutta give up on mine too but I need it

[civic canyon]

Alr bet 🗣️

Thats perfect too

I mean it aint ass but ill take it ig

[civic canyon]

She can impale me too i think

[strong kiln]

He first summon 4 big strong dude to pin you down before drop his massive arse onto your face

[civic canyon]

In one of her attacks

[civic canyon]

Okay maybe not like that

[strong kiln]

Yes, there are grab attacks that impale you

[strong kiln]

There is Temmy grandma if you want to see her

[balmy coral]

The new boss stomps on u with her barefeet

[civic canyon]

Yes but like i need the Mother of Yushan to do it

[balmy coral]

Fair

[strong kiln]

Alright I let blessy take the wheel from here

[civic canyon]

Damn can u send her here

[civic canyon]

🫂

[balmy coral]

I'm boutta pop off

[civic canyon]

same

I mean yes

[strong kiln]

There is 2 downside

1. As a boss, she is f*cking annoying

2. On the second phase she turns into a furry

https://youtu.be/Tq3BEQkOrkw?si=J9cG-SHNVQZDhAar

[civic canyon]

Lemme check if its the right type of furry

Imma see the vid thx

[north lynx]

This is the true crime

[civic canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-smacking-credit-card-on-table-gif-21340324

Foxes are literaly my favorite animal so like

[strong kiln]

She is a wolf

Also did you type foxgirls and then change it into foxes

[civic canyon]

WELL ANYWAY

[civic canyon]

Close enough

I really like wolfs too

But like foxes are a LOT better

[hidden creek]

Uhh if u mean her name then it's aconita ning

[lone umbra]

No i mean the gelid yushan we fight the boss

[hidden creek]

Yeah matron of yushan or yushan's matron idk

[lone umbra]

matron of yushan

[long phoenix]

Anyway to farm enrage souljade?

[dusty wharf]

u can always farm nirriti or enigma

they drop all souljades

[civic canyon]

Tomato Tomato 💔

All the same

[rotund forge]

Tomato toemato

[dusty wharf]

now this is what I hate

people who have this kinda fetish

can't write feet before it

it's restricted

[rotund forge]

Feetmato?

[civic canyon]

Dawg some girl keeps glancing at me

Every few mins

💔

[rotund forge]

U glance back

[civic canyon]

Thats what i get for being in social settings

[civic canyon]

no.

[rotund forge]

And eyebrow her

[civic canyon]

Wtf

I cant talk to new ppl without blushing No

NO

This counts too btw

[dusty wharf]

what is she eye-bows you

[dusty wharf]

even though its chat ?

[rotund forge]

then wink

[civic canyon]

Ye cuz like i sat in the middle if stairs and she sat way that like

She was facing be basicly cuz she was Near a wall

[dusty wharf]

what is she tweaks

[civic canyon]

And i blushed

[rotund forge]

☠️

[civic canyon]

🫂

[dusty wharf]

kinda looks like one of those book scenes

[civic canyon]

Maybe she is doing somethings sus idk

[rotund forge]

Now she thinks u in love

[civic canyon]

Thats good

[dusty wharf]

love at first ....

[civic canyon]

But like

I cant talk to women

[civic canyon]

Nahh the thighs girl isnt here for some reason

💔

[rocky oriole]

Cooked 😔

[dusty wharf]

what if u think she in love

[civic canyon]

That one maybe

[dusty wharf]

thighs girl ?

[civic canyon]

I dont got her insta tho

[rotund forge]

then that's a delusion

[civic canyon]

The one i met earlier

They sat down next to me

On the bean bags

And invaded my personal space

[dusty wharf]

aye

[civic canyon]

So i like her

[dusty wharf]

aiyo wht

[civic canyon]

Heh

[north lynx]

Showdown chats cooked

[civic canyon]

I could go into detail or add you to our GC

Where i have all the lore

[dusty wharf]

sadly samething doesn't happen to @rotund forge

[rotund forge]

[civic canyon]

[dusty wharf]

funny man

appreciate it

needed the much showing humoar

[civic canyon]

Yeah damn why

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gif-22469622

[dusty wharf]

cause it ain't got any humour

[civic canyon]

What happened

Real

[dusty wharf]

fr ?

[dusty wharf]

I'm up

[civic canyon]

Wait no wrong chat

[civic canyon]

Ye

Fr

[rotund forge]

☠️

[civic canyon]

Ill think abt it gotta ask others yknow

[dusty wharf]

I'm up

[dusty wharf]

sure thing take ur time

[civic canyon]

Yes 🗣️

[dusty wharf]

dm if they agree on bringing a nonchalant guy

cause I'm that

[civic canyon]

WAIT I NEED TO KNOW

[dusty wharf]

unlike my guy @rotund forge here

[civic canyon]

Like if u had to rank by your preference

[rotund forge]

Non chalant is a myth

[dusty wharf]

what, who

[rotund forge]

[civic canyon]

Booba thighs and as, s what would u rank them

[civic canyon]

I kept getting caught by filter

💔

[rotund forge]

BTA

[dusty wharf]

eh ?

like in order of prefernce

[civic canyon]

All 3 yeah

Yes

1 being best

And so on

[dusty wharf]

I'm with this guy

cause hell yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[rotund forge]

[civic canyon]

BUT THIGHS HAVE MORE VOLUME

[dusty wharf]

I got high expectations

[civic canyon]

Its not even a question

💔

Dawg she KEEPS GLANCING HERE

HELP

[dusty wharf]

you are outside rn ?

[civic canyon]

Like place where we can chill

[rotund forge]

Go near her

[civic canyon]

Our school made it

Bean bags

Stairs

[rotund forge]

Let her have a closer look

U know

[civic canyon]

And bar chairs or sum and table

[civic canyon]

Whoah

[rotund forge]

Girls deserve to goon

Don't take that right

[dusty wharf]

but I went left

[civic canyon]

BUT IM ALREADY SO COMFY ON THE BEAN BAG SHE IS LIKE 1 METER TO LEFT EVEN BIT LESS

ITS FINE

Im so comfy here tho

[civic canyon]

Agreed

[rotund forge]

Get out of ur comfort zone

[civic canyon]

She is left to me tho

[civic canyon]

no

[rotund forge]

If u want some action

[civic canyon]

😭 🙏

[dusty wharf]

need the thrill in the life

[civic canyon]

She looked like she was getting up or making herseld more comfy and then she got second thoughts and stopped

THATS SO ME

Except the getting up part

[civic canyon]

Too shy

💔

Maybe next time

[rotund forge]

it's today

[dusty wharf]

dawg u are literally me

[rotund forge]

Not Tommorow

[civic canyon]

Tho i really wish there was the thighs girl from earlier

[dusty wharf]

but female

[rotund forge]

Or any other day

[civic canyon]

Imma be real

[civic canyon]

Ye since she had same free class its like every week this time

[dusty wharf]

guyz I'm ngl this kinda talk should be done private

[civic canyon]

Maybe eventually i will

[civic canyon]

WELL

Ye idk

[rotund forge]

3 of us getting banned

[civic canyon]

😭

[dusty wharf]

lets make a gc

[civic canyon]

Nahhh spizik didnt get banned for talking about 3some

[dusty wharf]

wht u do u sat

[civic canyon]

And when i reported it he DIDNT EVEN GET PUNISHED

CUZ IT HAPPENED MONTH AGO