👾┃showdown

[lone umbra]

u lose ice blast dmg

yea with chain crush it is ok

[exotic canopy]

oh yeah and she was who it was really for

i see

[lone umbra]

but now lotus got buff so maybe viable

[exotic canopy]

👀

[lone umbra]

but for bossing still ice surge

mobbing lotus would be good

[exotic canopy]

when i was in yamas i wanted full ice wield but skill surge stina was very good for TI

[exotic canopy]

ah so like last season

lotus/surge placement

yeah makes sense theyd have to give a pretty big lotus buff to change that

or a pretty big surge nerf. or both at once

[balmy coral]

got useles stone but no 2 bosses staage

got inferno too

damnit

[balmy coral]

Lotus got a bit of buff

thunder specifically cos poison is still not in the same level

they have been doing full poison build bad

[chilly helm]

is this good?

[lone umbra]

Might want to replace last 3 with new poison jades miasma boon, defuse poison charge, mushroom something

[chilly helm]

cant even find this jade names

[lone umbra]

This is in new chapter

Grind Nirriti Nightscream and you might get it

[chilly helm]

give me some hero for fast grinding + jades

if you can

[balmy coral]

buy showdown bp

u can get a set of new jades

[exotic canopy]

wow just realized u dont get flux jade anymore from battlepass/Yama/920 season points its the new jade. so if u kept old flux jades u get more guaranteed rares u want

good thinkg i kept two

[balmy coral]

Ye

gotta be wise spending it since it's a kind of pity system

[exotic canopy]

wonder if 30 curio levels from now on will also be a legend jade

[balmy coral]

which forces the norm of grinding for shards twice harder

[exotic canopy]

wdym

[chilly helm]

can some one help me

with jades etc?

in call

[balmy coral]

Legend flux is anew kind of flux

It's not a jade

[exotic canopy]

yes when i said jade i meant instead of Flux Jade its now a Legend Jade

but its definitley a better system right

since now it takes two flux max to guarantee the second rare u want

[chilly helm]

behave

[exotic canopy]

at least as far as the Legend Jades given to you go

[chilly helm]

is this good?

[exotic canopy]

which now i realize better isnt a huge deal u only get three a season lol 4 if TI crafting levels gives it but i guess 3 pity second rares isnt bad its better than weve had it

[chilly helm]

If nobody help me with build im not gonna start again showdown!

[exotic canopy]

someone needs to help you right away sir.

[bold ice]

It's better but still far from what we've been asking for for many months atp

[exotic canopy]

yea definitely seems that way

i dont think ill make a build until last 30 days tbh

[bold ice]

Just the usual stuff, naraka either getting changes nobody wanted, or in the general direction but the steps are too small and too late

[exotic canopy]

let my surge carry me until then

[bold ice]

It's probably the best since curios can flip the builds upside down

[exotic canopy]

people were making like 4 builds last season it was crazy

[exotic canopy]

yea for sure first tarka then valda/yoto/kylin

[bold ice]

Surge seems to be perfectly fine and as long as you're able to clear everything you don't need the top of the top

[exotic canopy]

tarka wasnt a curio thing but its the same idea of course

i wonder if surge will compete in yamas times

hope so

[bold ice]

You just need to shoot up the yama leaderboards if you consider that a goal, otherwise no need to be pushing for new builds

Which makes me happy I didn't full commit to bow build as I was able to get #1 justina with ice surge

[exotic canopy]

i do esp since im xbox so its wayyy wasier to be #1s on here than pc

be cool if surge keeps up the same and thats one less build to make

[balmy coral]

Can't really hehlp u

[bold ice]

Ideally every build can be competitive

[balmy coral]

not many here knows the new meta builds yett

[exotic canopy]

if u go poison build u probably only want to play wuchen i think

iirc

[bold ice]

Poison used to be good on ziping

[exotic canopy]

ice is better on like everyone but because wuchen spams aegis break he likes poison

[chilly helm]

NOBODY knows what is good

....

[exotic canopy]

yea poison is a waste of a build atp unless u truly know and dont care and only care to be good on like one or two characters

man i forgot they killed poison accumulation, even less reason to run poison for that

total waste i imagine investing right now

[exotic canopy]

thats not what he said

[cursive kestrel]

this is new season so it means new meta new jades, a lot of things people try figure it out what's the best

[exotic canopy]

surge / lotus is good but thats not to say its current meta and will be meta

not to say nothing is good

...

[bold ice]

Inb4 everyone ditches the idea of defuse build cause of the rng requirement and it turns out giga broken

[chilly helm]

i need someone to look at my jades

and tell me witch is okay...

since i never played showdown

[bold ice]

@chilly helm play nirriti ruins only

No need for jades there

Get as many as you can until good builds pop up

[cursive kestrel]

u don't even need to care or focus on jades rn

[chilly helm]

i cant make alone nightscream

[cursive kestrel]

people running nirriti

[bold ice]

Play hard

[chilly helm]

its enough?

[bold ice]

Yes

Play more hard = able to do nightscream for quests

[north lynx]

It's not that we don't know what's good

Its that curios ruin early game builds

Getting a good early build is next to pointless

You just need something that can do peak

So people don't want to recommend builds early on rn

[balmy coral]

and early yama stages are close to pointless.

No point for builds

[exotic canopy]

is valdas curio necessary for her build?

[plain spire]

the 444 doesn't need curios

[exotic canopy]

was valdas backfire build a 444?

[plain spire]

no

[exotic canopy]

are curios necessary for her OP Backfire build do u know

[plain spire]

yes that one need curio

[exotic canopy]

thank u

[subtle bramble]

so for those of us that don't have thunder scorch build, it's not worth investing rn right?

i see everyone's back to using that but I'm guessing it's until we know what to do with the new jades

[bold ice]

If you have a build that will let you freely clear doom and enigma you're fine

[exotic canopy]

yea i have a max frost surge and dont think im investing anything until last 30 days

[cursive kestrel]

i met afk people already wtf

[fierce light]

That's the Lotus build for Poison.

[vivid jacinth]

I like the lotus poison build on Tessa. Its been fun.

[north lynx]

Shhhh

[north lynx]

People forgor about this and I have a maxed one

[fierce light]

Here's the buffs to Lotus DMG we got this Season. Sadly, I think the nerfs to accumulation hurt Poison Lotus too much. Pretty much only decent against mobs.

[chrome seal]

Do you think you gonna be updating your guide page with new builds soon?

[fierce light]

Probably not til next week. I want to be more picky with the builds i list

[hidden creek]

so on akos, using wild sweep to dodge into attacks for the auto defuse is treated as a perfect dodge and a defuse at the same time, result in much higher defuse slots accumulation compare to normal defuse

[fierce light]

Just thought about it, if they're going to keep releasing 2 mission chapters, we won't run into them in Doom.

[fierce light]

Wow, so they made the new jades even more potent on him.

[hidden creek]

mhmm

new jades was made for him

you literally never want to normal defuse on him

but always use wild sweep defuse

imagine

bosses release a multi hits attack

[cursive fable]

anyone fordooms?

[hidden creek]

and he can use wild sweep defuse like 4 or 5 times in a row, literally in like 2 seconds

that will be a heck tons of defuse slots accumulated

now the dodge-spirit prowess looks tempting

technically speaking we can get both dodge and defuse tree 2nd perk

cuz they're at 24 points

and we got 48 points in total

though we won't be able to get the last node on any tree

[heavy gulch]

I’m down

[chilly helm]

Can u screenshot ur jades for akos

[hidden creek]

still experimenting

[fierce light]

If you're going for a Defuse-Spam build on Akos, probably would want the Dodge Prowess

[cursive fable]

@heavy gulch id?

[fierce light]

You'll just use your Ult to boost your stats

[cursive fable]

thunder scorch or ice surge?

[hidden creek]

i'm thinking something like this

but losing the final node seems big

[cursive fable]

comign suki?

last spot

[heavy gulch]

1810800150174

[fierce light]

Yeah not worth, think you'd want Savage Elemental Seal with Dodge Prowess.

On a Defuse Thunder build since some reason they made that one give full charge while Poison only applies 1 stack of Toxified.

[hidden creek]

so what's the interaction of that potential node vs thunder elemental surge state?

it said there that ''when self element is full, does an attack''

but isn't it surge state just disable that?

[fierce light]

Yeah it conflicts with Element Surge

Don't want to run that jade with it as it will make it activate less often.

[hidden creek]

yea

and if i take that purple tree final node then i won't be running thunder chain either

[fierce light]

Yeah, they designed them just right to where you wouldn't want to make them hybrid.

Kinda sad you can't hybrid Lotus and Chain Crush anymore

[twin ledge]

Bruh every single character in trios and solo in cn server has 7 seconds

Like legitimately all top 10 for each character is 7

Trios and solo is crazy

That means that ur able to kill the orb by using chains to build thunder pull and kill the orb before it even transforms is crazy

Wait my bad kurumi for solo has 6 seconds

[cursive fable]

@fierce light thanks

[fierce light]

Yw

[cursive fable]

theres only like 3 viable build now?

1. ice surge .2 thunder scorch 3 range bow?

[fierce light]

Too soon to say

Current stage favors Thunder Scorch too heavily.

[lone umbra]

There is many build variation this season

Defuse, ice surge, thunder scorch, bow , swarm,

[balmy coral]

It's too early- and no one time transition like when surge was new and lotus was put in the back of the burner.

Had no choice but it's a diff situation this time.

[fierce light]

I'm getting faster times on Ice Lotus than Ice Surge on Akos for example.

[balmy coral]

I still have my ghastbloom luckily

[balmy coral]

Having a post-season dilema is real

[fickle linden]

good news is you need none of them in nirritis

[balmy coral]

Fr

[calm kestrel]

@fierce light Does the counter gust strike scale off of any additional damage or is it a flat percentage?

[fierce light]

It does 688% of your Attack as Hit DMG. Scales from normal DMG Bonuses (DMG to Bosses, Desperation, etc).

[calm kestrel]

preciate it. it seems to have like a 3-4 sec cooldown as well. can't proc continuously with divine thunder lol.

[fierce light]

Yeah, works similarly in Nirriti's Ruins.

[calm kestrel]

makes sense.

[upbeat sable]

Where should i level up my showdown level? which round is best for collecting xp?

[calm kestrel]

Niriti Ruins.

[upbeat sable]

Thanks a ton ^^

fatigue on right

[calm kestrel]

Yes, play with fatigue on.

[upbeat sable]

does difficulty add xp?

Also if yes, is it worth to play highest difficulty till i die or go lower to finish all 15 waves?

Thanks for help

[gaunt meadow]

Can someone say which build is the more powerful than other builds for a wuchen

[fierce light]

XP is based on Fatigue Spent.
XP Gained = 2.2 × Fatigue Spent × Reward % × (1 + XP Booster)

[exotic canopy]

damn does wuchen even have a build rn aside from swarm

his main was toxin surge and that got bad nerfed

[upbeat sable]

Thanks i thought killed enemies were factor aswell, so it doesnt matter which fight and how many enemies and even if i finish or fail? Thank you

[calm kestrel]

Sorry, was in an Enigma. But what DarkZer0 said its based on fatigue. since all of ruins is 45 fatigue, it doesn't matter which you run for XP.

[calm kestrel]

Poison Seal might be viable with his chain defuse.

Or Ice.

[fierce light]

Toxin Mark, Swarm Surge, or even a Hybrid build should work.

Toxin Mark
||```

• Defuse · Poison Charge
• Pestilent Pool
• Infectious Touch
• Noxious Blast
• Miasma Boon
• Mushroom Summoning

__Swarm Surge__
||```
- Pestilent Pool
- Element Surge (Poison-Wielding)
- Miasma Drive
- Renewed Vigor
- Backfire
- Shattered Edge
```||
__Hybrid__
||```
- Pestilent Pool
- Element Surge (Poison-Wielding)
- Miasma Drive
- Defuse · Poison Charge
- Renewed Vigor
- Mushroom Summoning
```||

[dusty wharf]

play hard mode

[dusty wharf]

man you got a formula for that

[fierce light]

Ruins rounds up the XP, so it even gives slightly more.

[exotic canopy]

is there a good video showing how to use ranged for a bow

just did a legend nirriti with two friends and had the counter shot happen like 3 times i dont know what im doing wrong

[fickle linden]

wdym how to use

darkzero has videos of bow paragon runs from last season in his youtube channel

[cursive kestrel]

i hate doing hp below 10% in nirriti ahhh why i've been doing it many matches and never succeed like the luck never on my side either boss died too fast or i was dead

[fickle linden]

i just never do it lol, you get enough pts from other achievements

it's too much work for nothing to gain

[exotic canopy]

im guessing theres a reason why all the high damage shots are when you couter and get extra high dmg shots, and im missing what that requirement is

[lone umbra]

that just happend to me like i was just playing and kylin basically was 1 hit away some how i survived

[fierce light]

Counter shot? Parry for Ranged is set to my crouch button.

[cursive kestrel]

i just hate that it could be done very easily but the timing is shit

[fierce light]

There's a specialized training in-game that covers using it.

[exotic canopy]

but thank you i will see

[fierce light]

I just go for Thunder with Mighty Counter Exhaustion maxed.

Sends you right down to 1 HP whenever you Counterstrike.

[exotic canopy]

wow i didnt know any of this showdown practice was here

too bad none of them give a flux lol!

[fierce light]

Bow actually doesn't want to parry; its counterstrike is terrible.

Musket and Swarm love to parry though.

[exotic canopy]

oh yeah what i meant is void destroyer

now that im on the special practice and i see the names

maybe i was holding too late

boutta find out

oh thats what it was

[cursive kestrel]

i just went divinity guard with tarka, i was shooting fireballs waiting for hp to drop and boss died before i hit 10%

[exotic canopy]

and if ur on a controller u can feel the vibration when u need to let the arrow go

so thats why i did void destroyer like 3 times in a whole legend run lol

[fierce light]

Divinity Guard seems a lot more rare to get.

[hidden creek]

so @fierce light what ILM build looks like atm? also is there a reason to run it instead of ice surge?

[cursive kestrel]

[exotic canopy]

ILM? is that ice lotus 8wf 4 mod or another one

[calm kestrel]

@fierce light I think I might be on to something with monk. Still testing a few things, but I'll back brief you once I think the build is complete.

[fierce light]

Good work

[hidden creek]

so just replace chain with szs

[fierce light]

It looks like it'll be the stronger option for mobbing. Ice Surge kicks ahead though when you can get Chain Crush off against single-targets.

[hidden creek]

10% spinning lotus dmg is better than 15% attk on red tree?

[fierce light]

No, but not enough time to activate Surge.

[hidden creek]

so stage specific, i see

[fierce light]

I have to calculate how long Element Afterglow stays active as well

Since they didn't give a time some reason

[hidden creek]

yeah

was about to ask about that lol

what was it last season

like 15s?

[fierce light]

30s

[hidden creek]

hmm

it look like if i wanna play akos i have to rebind my keys

so i can fast charge his F easier

[fierce light]

Looks like it's 30s again

[hidden creek]

that's nice

so basically all the time

[exotic canopy]

can u still run skill surge with the new potential system?

[north lynx]

you can

[fierce light]

Accumulation is a little lower, so it may be awkward on heroes other than Justina.

But it should still work.

[sleek bronze]

https://youtu.be/k1wHlVGaJ-8?si=AW495iyh53z2FyGq

poison missile lmao

[fierce light]

I wonder how it'll perform in Tempered Inferno

[cursive kestrel]

blind

[fierce light]

Okay, I calculated the Elemental Accumulation Rate bonus of Aquatic Prison, it's 40% as well.

[stone niche]

So how does this new system work? I feel noob again

[hidden creek]

basically now builds are more separated

[fierce light]

The potential?

[stone niche]

Yeah 😅 what’s the spinning one good for?

like which would be good for the previous builds before?

[dusty wharf]

good question

[stone niche]

Did they mess up showdown

[lone umbra]

doesn't seem to be.. build possibility increase now

[fierce light]

Poison builds want Defuse Prowess for the most part.

Thunder builds want Counter Prowess.

Ice builds can make good use of Defuse or Dodge Prowess, whichever you're more comfortable with.

Ranged builds use Deadeye Prowess.

It's not overly complicated.

[frigid sail]

Is there any way to check which souljade that i don't have yet? thanks

[fierce light]

Narakapedia

Well that's only if you haven't gotten it from a Gift

[wind light]

old surge element still work good

this build

[fierce light]

Yeah

[wind light]

i soloed the doom path 9 stars

[fierce light]

Mainly when the bosses live long enough for the Chain Crush

[stone niche]

Which for ice build would it be good for say idk Justina and what her meta build was previously?

[fierce light]

If you Defuse more than you Dodge and/or like for your Aegis-break to do a lot of damage, then Defuse Prowess. Otherwise, Dodge Prowess.

[balmy coral]

What if they rework Doom and give us crystals instead.

Frags is so abundant. Once u run out of crystals, frags just flow like a river.

[lone umbra]

Give both

[balmy coral]

They're not that generous sadly

[bronze wharf]

that might work ? idk what am i doing

[lone umbra]

I think if you go first right node you can spam skill without cd

[bronze wharf]

i'll go with mod windfall

[lone umbra]

Yeah mod is needed

But go first right node to spam skill

[fickle linden]

akos extreme outfit is so ugly i hate this

[balmy coral]

true I have it too

[fierce light]

Yeah, Essence Binding Seal is more important than Immortal Glyph. Especially against a single boss.

[magic prairie]

Its so garbage bcs u cant toggle it

[stone niche]

This is the real extreme

[magic prairie]

Yeah this is the drip

[fickle linden]

im about to open the martial artist box for akos

can't stand this red abomination

[wind light]

you bought it ?

[fickle linden]

no i got it when it was on auction

i was gonna sell it but it's bugged in steam marketplace like floral dews

[wind light]

what bug is it

[fickle linden]

#1396777395582926899 message

[balmy coral]

Love how they spin

@fierce light what level did u end up with max fatigue?

[fierce light]

85, really close to 86

[balmy coral]

I see. I'm at 74 - 1537/2400

[wind light]

chill guys its already 3 days

[fierce light]

Maxed it early to test more things

[balmy coral]

thanks to nirriti I'm actually getting gold keys

[fierce light]

Ice Mark build gameplay

[crimson cave]

i never ever ran putnof crystal, always short on frags

[shrewd basin]

Frags are my nightmare aswell

[lone umbra]

How many did you get?

[strong kiln]

tbh, I can already see a problem with swarm in TI, swarm projectile will get stuck on corpse of enemy who has just died

So sometimes it just takes you 3 seconds to charge up and the tracking got stuck in some corpse and poof dmg gone

[fierce light]

Yeah noticed it's really close range as well.

At least ammo isn't a concern though

[balmy coral]

43 now

[misty bridge]

Should 24E change that ? i feel like swarm close range doesn't make much sense

[valid schooner]

I've noticed kinda same problem with Bow, the 1-stage Void Destroyer trick helps kill small mobs so quick, your next set of arrows would come out before they finish the dying animation and so the arrows would be stuck on the dying mobs instead. It's a pain in stages with bunch of weak enemies like TI or SND.

[balmy coral]

Even pistol should be played close range which is really stupid

[fierce light]

It's likely intended, to make use of the new Defuse Jades. It does have the ability to keep its charge when dodging.

[misty bridge]

But is only when deadeye is full, does swarm have defuse and i didn't know it?

[valid schooner]

@fierce light I've wanting to ask something, the last potential node Thunder Smash says it increase Counter damage, how does this work? Does it apply to all kind of Counter Strike or just Divine Thunder Counter?

[fierce light]

Yeah when it's not full, you pretty much want to fit in barely charged barrages while aiming for a Counterstrike whenever you can. It gives a lot of Deadeye charge. It doesn't have a Defuse, but the new jades work on Perfect Dodges. If anything they prefer Perfect Dodges more than Defuses.

[fierce light]

It doubles the damage of the Counterstrike from your weapon.

[misty bridge]

Perfect dodges means boss hits pass through you because of iframes from tap dodge right?

[fierce light]

Yes, your hero will flash white when it happens.

[lone umbra]

43 from nirriti? Or total you have?.. i am gonna kill myself if 43 from nirriti this week

[balmy coral]

Total.

[misty bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243

[balmy coral]

I'd rather not get much of it. I get low crystal

[lone umbra]

If you run full nirriti for 5 weeks plenty of crystal

[lone umbra]

Using Elixir strategy I reached 87

[fierce light]

Yup, only using those for Enigma Peak since I don't plan on buying any.

Had a loss in Nightscream Ruins as well cause teammate chose new boss when we were underleveled and wiped.

[valid schooner]

Thanks. I didn't expected such high multiplier, do you think it's worth putting a point in even if I don't have Thunder Chain?

[lone umbra]

I just wanted to try it out to see how it goes

[fierce light]

Yes, pretty much the recommended element if you're not running a specific Chain build.

[cursive kestrel]

i try to gaslight myself that im farming golden keys not lvl up

[fierce light]

Leveling up the best part since it's guaranteed progression

[shrewd basin]

If pistols had a faster DE charge and faster DE animation I have a feeling they’d be pretty viable for mob clearing since you can free aim the shots, I just wish the final hit had a stagger effect

[fierce light]

Yeah you need Dual Link and Elemental Rounds to be any decent.

Unfortunate that Dual Link doesn't help its Deadeye attack.

[cursive kestrel]

[dusk plover]

@north lynx just a heads up dude. 3 people on NA PlayStation got sub 1m valda solos (53 sec was quickest) and same for trios. Didn’t know you can micro on PlayStation

[shrewd basin]

Can’t wait to see what kinda epoch there cooking for crossbow and cannon

[balmy coral]

I really hope so.

I have not even deconstruct this week yet

[fierce light]

If Cannon isn't any good for mobbing, they selling.

Might be the new fastest Ruins farm

[shrewd basin]

Just imagine a cannon shot doing 64K damage

[balmy coral]

rich

[lone umbra]

Indeed rich

[shrewd basin]

Blessy I how you get scorching on you next rare

[cursive kestrel]

2 weeks of saving up

[balmy coral]

I have no clue but I might build a thunder scorch

For kylin

but u only need Lvl 12

[shrewd basin]

I mean tbf you probably have enough scorching for it

[cursive kestrel]

i just didn't use it at all for pass few weeks

[viscid wraith]

smart

[balmy coral]

Ye used to be enough

[lone umbra]

I got frags 1.7k and closing the gap for crystal

[cursive kestrel]

put elixir on work

but im not using it at all this week

[balmy coral]

I got like 320+ 1800/2400

[cursive kestrel]

[shrewd basin]

I deconstructed nearly 400 jades only got like sub 500 frags

[dusk plover]

Between this and attacking console players after they beat you in solo/duos in messages with excuses you losing a lot of credibility

[shrewd basin]

Bro leave it alone

[balmy coral]

Btw this morniing I was getting 7 crystals at 75% @lone umbra

I wonder if they fuc it up again with that 0-100 ratio

[lone umbra]

Nah i m running nirriti full 5 weeks

[dusk plover]

What’s to leave alone? This my first time saying anything lol

[balmy coral]

Same.

No need for peak even

[shrewd basin]

Nah I read the thread don’t bring it here

[lone umbra]

And if ice surge can clear peak then i don't even want to go for new build

[dusk plover]

Just letting him know it’s not micros unless you can micro on PlayStation

[cursive kestrel]

bro trying to drown himself in crystal piles

[balmy coral]

Should be

[lone umbra]

Maybe go for 80% build

But def not maxing it

[balmy coral]

It's easier than lacking crystal. Peak is always open mid- first half

[dusk plover]

It’s closed so I’m letting him know here. If PlayStation can be 5 seconds off it’s not micros lol

[fierce light]

Yeah right now this season is feeling like a catch-up season. First one we've had tbh.

[viscid wraith]

I'm building this that unli-dash justina is so cool

[cursive kestrel]

i still need 400+ frags to match my crystals

[balmy coral]

u are lacking frags cos recasting it's not 1:1

But when peak opens that would easily diminish

[fierce light]

We'll have to see if they add jades mid-season. Not seeing anything that would change Curio builds so far.

[cursive kestrel]

if u constantly run nirriti u wouldn't run out that fast

[fierce light]

Ruins gives so much Catch Up cause no Luck takes effect in it.

[balmy coral]

If drops says so

[fierce light]

Really hope they do something to it

[lone umbra]

That build is fun to play

[cursive kestrel]

any dumb build to play?

[lone umbra]

Just add yin yang bonus in it.. how hard can it be

[lone umbra]

Poison

[fierce light]

Tbh with the buff to Miasma Boon from 5s cooldown → 1.5s cooldown, you can get Toxin Blasts going off left and right.

[lone umbra]

Actually I could see poison become potential T0

[cursive kestrel]

i tried wuchen poison lotus for fun, used ult 3 times and still lose to ziping ice surge

[lone umbra]

Yeah

[fierce light]

Poison Lotus got nerfed the hardest

[cursive kestrel]

poor dude

[fierce light]

Gave it the smallest damage increase and nerfed its accumulation rate significantly.

[lone umbra]

I tested that build.. build seems promising

[fierce light]

Makes no sense.

[cursive kestrel]

they just hate poison now

[fierce light]

Pretty much Mark Poison the only really viable one, but that's single-target focused.

Unless you wait and let mobs attack you like back in the Skyfire days

[lone umbra]

Poison thunder seems to be good
3 new poison jades, tpull, tproof, infections touch.

This build don't rely on attack from mobs/boss

To full meter

[fierce light]

Ah kinda similar to Ziping Curio build

[lone umbra]

Yeah

Toxin blast goes fast with this

[lone umbra]

Did you try wuchen swarm?

[cursive kestrel]

only in nirriti, pretty fun

[lone umbra]

Yeah it hits hard and ult charges in like 1 deadeye

[cursive kestrel]

it feels a little weird that I didn't hear the rocket noise or something

[fierce light]

If only dodging Divine Thunder built the charge.

[cursive kestrel]

[fierce light]

Kurumi can't fully benefit from the build.

[lone umbra]

Yeah majorly who can chain defuse or have a tech to do that like Tessa/akos/kylin

[lone umbra]

You can give it a try build seems good

[fierce light]

Yup all the people who would already prefer a different build tho

Kurumi still being left out

I tried it in Free Training, it's okay on her

[lone umbra]

Kurumi is underground without her curio same with yoto

[fierce light]

Wait

Does it activate Savage Elemental Seal too?

[lone umbra]

Yeah

[fierce light]

Even with her Curio, she's not performing overly well

Cause of how long it takes to get it out

Okay this build is pretty good then even on Kurumi

[lone umbra]

When ur meter is full and defuse boss attk it activates

Full the meter with thunder and boss attk

Once u defuse attack it activates

And build is pretty cheap

As it doesn't depend on poison blast and skill

[fierce light]

Ah Thundershock filling doesn't activate it

Savage Element Seal

[lone umbra]

Ye it doesn't but as soon as you dodge/defuse boss attk it activates

thundershock just help to fill meter

[fierce light]

Yeah I thought the Thundershock filling would activate Savage Element Seal as well

But it only includes the element you chose

[lone umbra]

and one toxin blast quickly fill thundershock

so meter fills quite fast too

[gaunt goblet]

Is there a way to farm elemental essence ?

[fierce light]

Nope, it's a very slow resource

[gaunt goblet]

F

Got bored of playing with ice blast and wanted to change

[fierce light]

Other elements would usually use different jades in that case

[gaunt goblet]

Yeah but most of them have different or no element

[fierce light]

Ah

[gaunt goblet]

Yeah

Well I guess I'll just keep playing nirriti

For the next 2 or 3 years until I have enough essences

[fervent oxide]

Is there any build yet for Akos?

[fierce light]

He can use any build. Top contenders are probably Ice Surge, Thunder Surge Spell and Thunder Lotus Spell.

[viscid wraith]

gameplay's dumb and damage's dumb too

[lone umbra]

not if you hybrid it with thunderpull

[fierce light]

I got the Poison build to about 35% complete. Going to have to wait till a better stage to really test it though

If Kurumi could do at least 2 defuses from 1 Divine Thunder, it would be great.

[lone umbra]

which one ? with tpull?

[fierce light]

Yeah

Don't think ima do any crazy investment into it atm, but it looks fun.

[lone umbra]

i did it random stat on wuchen was able to clear 8 boss but last 2 manticore kept running away

[north lynx]

Just a heads up dude, no one said sub min was micro

That's rhetoric inserted

[fierce light]

Omnius Void wastes too much time underwater and transforming.

[north lynx]

That I def never said

Don't put words in my mouth

Are you outing yourself rn too lmao

[cursive kestrel]

boss transforming longer than when u beating them

[dusk plover]

You said he used it in for valda run and PlayStation was 7 seconds behind that run….. so yeah just skill issue not micros

[lone umbra]

i think 2 defuse should be possible

[dusk plover]

I mean I’m on PlayStation and got the 53 and pretty sure you can’t hack/micro on here lol

[north lynx]

Where is the if you are under 1 min you are microing? Matter of fact I never said anything about his time being why he microed at all

Like don't put words in my mouth cause I called out your pc booster

[dusk plover]

How he boost me in solos? lol

[north lynx]

Just what I heard

"I found a better booster"

Those are your words no?

[dusk plover]

Yeah because the same PlayStation people that can’t take my solo times ask you John and rougish to beat my trios times with 2 other chamber members lol

[north lynx]

Ye so ur outing yourself for personal feelings

[dusk plover]

Ask him and another and beat yours and Makavelis times that you spent last hour trying to beat mine, in one go

[cursive fable]

who was the 47s valda?

eu guy?

[north lynx]

Beating a time I didn't play is a very good achievement

Ur sic

[dusk plover]

Ain’t these yours? Plus you said he use micros on his runs both here and in the thread lol

[north lynx]

Lololol

Brother that's dms between me in merlinda

You know how weird it is you got those

You also are misreading, nothing in there is claiming under a min is micro

[dusk plover]

Yeah dude he claimed using micros. Just told him PlayStation on 60fps was less than/around 10sec off which is normal sometimes more, so if he was then so are PlayStation users

[north lynx]

Uh no that's not how it works

His time isn't what I'm basing it off of you just have 80 iq on a good day

[balmy coral]

@fickle linden waifu feet rig

[cursive fable]

who is the best chinese showdown player on NA?

[north lynx]

Ice probs

[dusk plover]

Why you saying latching onto under a min now? You said he ran micros to get better times easier yet PlayStation still stay around what the average difference usually is on it.

[north lynx]

You said there was a 7 second difference and you are missing the point

It's about sub optimal builds

While also me killing him in ranked/rift and seeing the micro jitter

[dusk plover]

So I said this to support the claim just saltiness

[north lynx]

Yeah but like I said

You aren't uh

Well you know

Inserting rhetoric

[dusk plover]

You’ve messaged that same rubberbanding/ping abuse crap to 2 of my chamber members aswell that killed you in br/customs so again losing credibility

[north lynx]

LOL

O yeah

When did I do that

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-gif-4169442390448293969

[dusk plover]

The ones you’re claiming though aren’t

[cursive fable]

may i ask whats up with people who played showdown for years

grind their fatigue themselve

[dusk plover]

memories, Nick soccer

[cursive fable]

but still need a booster last week for serious content

[north lynx]

Never in my life

Have I called those 2 anything

[cursive fable]

like isnt that the most fun part of showdown

[north lynx]

I respect those gamers

[dusk plover]

We laugh about it all the time lol

[north lynx]

You are just outright lying for memes

That's wild asf

Better post screens

[dusk plover]

Yeah for me atleast, and the rewarding after once you finish those builds

[cursive fable]

its like i see those bois

[north lynx]

Matter of fact tag them

[cursive fable]

with 20000 games in showdown

500 level in naraka

still need a booster for NA yamas

lol

[north lynx]

It's so wild how John will say outlandish stuff

Then he'll be proven right

He told me about you and I was like

Ye none of my buisness

You fr like that lolol

[dusk plover]

after you complain about ping abuse to them or in the room making excuse why you lose instead of just gg lol

[north lynx]

Never in my life have I called a ps5 a micoer

Or those 2 ping abusers

You are just lying lol

You think they'd support what you're yapping about tag em

[dusk plover]

You called me one since I got close to pc time with Valda with the same build you said was sub optimal

[dusk plover]

Never said you called them micros just complained about ping abuse/rubberbanding after fights each time they won

[north lynx]

Never said that either, you are just lying

[dusk plover]

I mean you already lost a lot of your credibility like John now with your emotions with showdown. That’s where you two are similar now. That’s all besides the point though. I was just letting you know PlayStation got close to those times with the same builds that you claimed were micro use that’s all.

[twin ledge]

Oh I have a figure like that too

Nice

[dusk plover]

Yeah I mean trios is really just about boosting anyways. Whoever got the best ones wins and there’s 1 lagging behind

[twin ledge]

Like fr keep my name out of it I’ve already said I’m done with the beef like fr just keep me out of this bruh

[north lynx]

Says the guy just making up nonsense to slander because he's mad I called his pc player a microer

Poor u

[balmy coral]

Yes I want more Elaina figuriness

[dusk plover]

I’ve got nothing to be mad about. I’m not crying or whining about not being able to get solo badges. Just funny I got called a microer unintentionally lol

[twin ledge]

Yea I’ve actually been thinking of getting a few more of them

[north lynx]

Well that makes 2 of us

Unfort about that reading difficulty

Passing 7th grade might help

I didn't call you a microer at all

[dusk plover]

Said unintentionally

[north lynx]

Where's the unintentional

[dusk plover]

It’s right there but you’re telling me I can’t read or passed 7th grade

[north lynx]

Ye and you aren't like

Proving me wrong lol

Kinda just saying "ye I can't read, not the brightest, but watch me lie about 7 things ina row cause I'm mad u call out my boosters"

I'm very proud of you

[spiral kernel]

Cn still havnt finish cooking akos build stew?

[dusk plover]

He isn’t even my booster 🤣 he helped me with 2 rounds after the same PlayStation people trying to do what you all complained about but can’t beat my solo times so they target my trios and we took it back in one go lol

[cursive kestrel]

maybe wait till they reach max potential points first

[twin ledge]

Every character in cn solo and trios did 7 seconds with thunder burn

[spiral kernel]

I am waiting mate

I just ask

[twin ledge]

My bad cn solo kurumi did 6 seconds the top 6 guys

[spiral kernel]

Of curisity

[twin ledge]

They have the thunder burn that was meta 2 season ago could be wrong

[spiral kernel]

There isnt anything wrong with asking is it?

[cursive kestrel]

he literally can be played in various builds idk

[north lynx]

Wowee "he isn't even my booster, I just used his cheats to get my times super high for 2 rounds, but look at my solo time!"

[dusk plover]

If after 7th grade you start complaining and whinnying about losing instead of just acknowledging it’s just a skill/build issue than I guess I am stuck here lol

[spiral kernel]

He ok in my build aswell

Actually hell

[north lynx]

Truly.

[spiral kernel]

I can solo everything

But i need to level up

What kills me is low level being currently

[cursive kestrel]

my noob ice surge is doing pretty well

[north lynx]

My favorite thing is my 1 game of solos and me never complaining about a badge, and only calling yang a cheater from interactions from pvp

[dusk plover]

Well when they grab 2 pc players to try to beat my time with 2 console players it’s quicker to do it in one round and 10 seconds faster so they can’t get it back??? Like that’s common knowledge?

[north lynx]

And you going off on a schitzo tangent

The voices aren't real

[north lynx]

See that's those voices

Idc what you do gamer. I lose a bit of respect when you que with cheaters, but I gotta believe you don't know or think so

[fierce light]

There's unlikely to be a BiS build for every situation for Akos, he's just so versatile. Ice builds are his best mobbing options though.

[viscid wraith]

^ this

[balmy coral]

Ye same ! I dunno where to put it thou. I don't have a sag bracket so cant put anything above the gpu

[dusk plover]

How long you been playing to not know there’s such thing as a match history or that you can see when people are qued/in match and how many if you have them on your list lol

[spiral kernel]

I am using ice

[north lynx]

You think I'm stalking you? You of all people

Brother I don't open a profile of known players

[cursive kestrel]

My biggest opponent is my own fps

[spiral kernel]

Actually i am soloing all i can. What is killing me is me being low level

[dusk plover]

Where did I even say that? 🤣🤣🤣

[north lynx]

I'm not opening your match history

[spiral kernel]

Like being 51 and doing stuff above me level by 20 atleast is the problem

[north lynx]

That's what that means lolol

[dusk plover]

You claimed me saying they grab 2 pc people to beat my times with console people is “voices in my head” then I said that about match history and lists lol like who really isn’t the one that can’t read here?

[fierce light]

Yeah, the first two weeks are about leveling. Although you can max your potential this week.

[cursive kestrel]

the lvl suppression is real gotta run nirriti like a hamster

[spiral kernel]

My potonial is already good

The lvl is prob

[north lynx]

Ye, and I said, I'm not looking at your match history. You done or we gonna go ina loop some more where you make up stuff and I call u dumb for it

[spiral kernel]

Brave u should change ur name to facts

[dusk plover]

Okay why would you be trying to look at mine? Where that even come up from that’s what I’m asking 😂

[north lynx]

I mean you do what you wanna do gamer

[cursive kestrel]

At lvl50 I struggle with rock dude but now 70+ they're all pretty ez

[north lynx]

You wanna peak into other showdown players match history to snipe or w.e you are doing there

You do that

[spiral kernel]

@north lynx guys take it to dms

[north lynx]

Ye I agree

[spiral kernel]

Not in server

[north lynx]

I done I done

[dusk plover]

He the one that denied it and brought it here lol

I went there first

[spiral kernel]

If u want to countine take it to dms

[cursive kestrel]

New boss new chap ns those monsters are like miniboss bcs of the lvl suppression

[spiral kernel]

I am advicing u so by any means we aint getting either of u a warning/ban

[dusk plover]

Not really hard to when they boast about it 3 seasons ago and still have people message me about taking times to this day

[fierce light]

Yeah, there's a 20% damage difference just being at the same level and 1 level below. Gets even more exaggerated from there.

[north lynx]

Ye I'm done no worries

[cursive kestrel]

Agree better lvl up before u go yama

[spiral kernel]

[cursive kestrel]

They can't one hit u anymore

[dusk plover]

It was nothing from the get go lol. Just put in a fact of if he was, PlayStation (me and 2 others) were too which isn’t the case

[twin ledge]

Nice

[cursive kestrel]

scorching do loves you bro

[north lynx]

Almost perfect, needs 3 more scorchings

[twin ledge]

Never seen anyone gain more scorching than u

[spiral kernel]

Mate. Idc. Dont know. Not my thing. Just trying to help that no one will get warning/ban. Pls dont reply for this. This thing is done. If u want dm each other.

[viscid wraith]

those suicidal squad with burning omen can still one shot me in nirriti

[balmy coral]

Always

this is the 11th

[cursive kestrel]

Not me running in hellhoe to do hp10% challenge

[dusk plover]

I mean it takes a lot more than that for a warning/ban but appreciate the concern.

[cursive kestrel]

I got windfall yesterday, call me goddess of windfall!!!

[twin ledge]

Ngl I got tired of it so what I did was use the purple counter attack ring to bring my hp down lol

Game just wouldn’t give me any of the omens I needed

[balmy coral]

Yes ma'am

[cursive kestrel]

Tbh I tried everything possible and there's always something happened either I died or suddenly boss died first

i just tryna forget it and don't wanna try that again

[twin ledge]

Kinda hard when boss 1 tapped so just had to use the counter strike ring

[cursive kestrel]

[twin ledge]

Ruins lag is wild too so I had to do it trios and back away to let team finish boss

Cause boss kept killing me last second everytime it was stupid

[cursive kestrel]

This

Like I got perfect amount of hp then i got one hit

[twin ledge]

I even had one game where my teammate accidentally hit poison and died lmao

[cursive kestrel]

[twin ledge]

Got it tho with parry ring and the red poison

I did it with valda

Right before I died to poison i ulted

Seems valda ult lets u live the poison

[cursive kestrel]

Even with divinity guard and tarka in ult but boss died before i hit below10%

Just don't do it at all

[fierce light]

Mighty Counter Exhaustion with Thunder Blessing the most reliable way for me.

As long as you don't have a Kurumi trying to heal bot

[twin ledge]

Yea what I had to use

Think I did that ring plus the red poison omen or whatever

[lone umbra]

they would have reached max potential

[dusk plover]

I have never had any with you, I just said a fact like 3 seasons ago and you’ve hung onto it I guess, but I will say pick one or the other. You can’t want to be in beef but also actively do the same (or help others do the same) thing you complain about that starts the beef at the same time with others. It’s probably why it’s still going but that’s my perspective given how the same people are still trying to do it to me with the targeting in trios last hour

[twin ledge]

Bruh

My guy I said stop putting my name in this I’ve already said I’m done with this just please stop na is already on verge of dying all this senseless beef and arguing isn’t helping this so let’s just chill

I ain’t say nothing this season bruh everyone keeps @ me replying to me when I’ve clearly said a thousand times to stop putting me into it I’m done with it

Just stop bruh

I don’t wanna hear it

[dusk plover]

I just said some advice on what might be the reason it’s still going since I’m dealing with the same (if though they failing) because people have seen it brought up and plus the whole cheating accusations . How is any of that not chill or beefing with you?

[twin ledge]

If u go and read what I said I asked to keep me out of it

[dusk plover]

Yes and my advice was either actually stay out and give it no more attention so they get bored or go fully into it and finish it. Going back and forth will just mess with your mental worse than just one or the other

[twin ledge]

Well I would stay out of it if people would stop adding my name into this

[dusk plover]

That’s all that I said and wanted to say

[dusk plover]

When they do you just ignore/dont give any reply’s for anyone to use. I’m pretty sure the whole cheating allegations is what started it this time and that was all you

[twin ledge]

I legit don’t want anything to with any of this anymore so just drop it just stop putting my name into it

Wild wanna cookie

[cursive kestrel]

As long as I don't have to build every build, im okay

bcs i won't

see arcane thunder come back after I deconstructed it to do ice surge

[lone umbra]

yeah if you go for every build u will be broke

[lone umbra]

it is useful if you want skill spam thunder

I m liking poison build

[dusk plover]

I’m just trying to help show you why it probably happened/started again this season. You will destroy your mental saying “I legit don’t want anything to do with any of this” but then start it up yourself

[cursive kestrel]

I love mod build

[twin ledge]

Cool

Ur having people that I thought was friends take screenshots of private messages that wasn’t even about u

Like Poni can hide the name all u want but already knew who was sending the images

[dusk plover]

That screenshot was from here in this channel…….

[lone umbra]

I just put jades and i m able to do this.. . poison meta
build is just born.. 14% completion

[twin ledge]

No it wasn’t

[dusk plover]

I saw and took it myself

[twin ledge]

I just found the actual messages

U did?

[dusk plover]

You put it in here too

[twin ledge]

Cause idc

[lone umbra]

then you would enjoy thunder spam skill build

[lapis folio]

funny

[cursive kestrel]

I'd like to try

[lone umbra]

idk the power of this build yet but it is so fun with full mod

[cursive kestrel]

Summon swarm build rn

[fierce light]

Did they mention you could replace Defuse Solidification when you get enough potential?

[dusk plover]

Bro I’m going to have so much fun once I work one out, don’t care if it’s competitive or not 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[lone umbra]

idk I haven't seen this build coming up in main server. but gonna find it

[cursive kestrel]

Im at lvl 78 and 1800fatigue

feels like forever

chasing 0% fatigue

[balmy coral]

wanna do nirriti?

[cursive kestrel]

u haven't ran out?

[balmy coral]

almost 2k

[cursive kestrel]

impossible

[balmy coral]

Ye I dunno why too I stopped cos I get bored

[rotund forge]

me at 400 fatigue

[lone umbra]

nirriti feels forever

[sleek bronze]

nirriti is pain ass hell

play nirriti like im on the way to bed

[balmy coral]

I'm at 2k now

[rotund forge]

they should keep inferno

Atleast it's not that boring

[balmy coral]

Ngl they could've kept inferno then removed the curios but lowered difficulty

But I understand they want to keep it exclusive but it just doesn't work this way. No games would do it this way

[lone umbra]

But the drops 💀

[rotund forge]

its perfect for busy ppl

Not much time spent in game and fatigue filled

[lone umbra]

Maxing the fatigue is possible if you are busy. Spend 2-3 hours in a day or have weekend grind if you working

[chilly kestrel]

thats asking too much from @rotund forge

best he can do is 30 mins of nirriti

[lone umbra]

What kind of busy is that

[cursive kestrel]

Busy being lazy

[balmy coral]

getting a windfall in my souldrawing costed me 320 crystals

I'ma cry

[chrome seal]

Ppl caring about 3sec difference in rank
How can u be sure that the Chinese couldn't have done it better either
Get a life

[balmy coral]

Btw I got 3 scorching and 1 mod in the process

[vale inlet]

Stop arguing over futile things

[balmy coral]

That- will never happen

[lone umbra]

Wish i had popcorn and coke with me at that time

[lone umbra]

So did they reduce the pity?

[balmy coral]

Probably so

Like windfall had like lower chance

I would've quit the game if I didn't get windfall at all

Cos that'd make my 14th windfall

[vale inlet]

Kindly tag me so I can give some timeouts then

[balmy coral]

Will take note since I don't approve of such behavior as well.

[lone umbra]

I don't even get what was the argument about

[balmy coral]

Just NA things

We're in SEA can't even figure out who is who too many ppl

[lone umbra]

so the beef was about ranking?

[balmy coral]

Ye basically

[lone umbra]

eh u right.. SEA it is not even possible.. no need to bother

[dusk plover]

Just people mad about not getting badges. Happens at the end of every season lol

[balmy coral]

It's about what ppl make out about the ranks and the drama that comes with it.

[balmy coral]

Ye .. we in SEA can't even bother with it

[dusk plover]

Well yeah, but ultimately just breaks down to people not getting one and lashing out

[balmy coral]

So?

That just proves my point.

The rank itself says everything so why bother with it and why bother what ppl say bout it.

[dusk plover]

Don’t ask me I’m not one of them lol

Just saying that’s the reason proving your point lol

[balmy coral]

Lol

This is the reason why drama happens make sure to learn

[dusk plover]

Well there’s going to be drama anytime competition and emotions (people not in control of) is involved lol

[fickle linden]

it's funny how it's only NA at the end of every season embarassing themselves publicly arguing

you dont see eu or sea players doing that

[dusk plover]

That’s just common knowledge

[dusk plover]

Exactly. I’ve seen eu a few times awhile back but mostly NA never anyone else besides us two though

They think it’s rough in NA/EU, they’d probably quit early everywhere else

[balmy coral]

Anyways, don't bring up the drama here.

Tysm

[dusk plover]

It’s new season doubt there will be any for awhile thank god lol

Longer one too

[dusk plover]

What were the fastest solo times in SEA overall if you remember? Just curious

[balmy coral]

OMFG

[dusk plover]

?

why you freak out over someone asking what times looked like in a server they aren’t in? I can see EU and look up CN but can’t in SEA or AS. If you don’t remember I can just ask someone else lol

[fathom edge]

You going on about this all day long. Chill mate and do something better.

[dusk plover]

?

I barely talk in here lol

Got accused of cheating as well as a friend in here so I straightened it out and gave advice to one of the people that lashes out each season why it probably still happens. Took what an hour to wrap up? Definitely not all day lol. Now I ask an unrelated question and get randoms lashing back for no reason? lol

[fathom edge]

And you know what you don’t cheat and you play on PS. Why even get involved in some drama if you know that is not true. Leave it and let them talk whatever they want.

@vale inlet @inner moss @balmy harness don’t know if this needs taking action 🤷🏻‍♂️

[dusk plover]

Like I said it was straightened out and finished easily because it was a dumb accusation. Now how in the world does that involve me asking a question about SEA servers or why you’re trying to bring up old drama that’s already been concluded almost 8 hours ago?

[fierce light]

Damn i went to sleep and wake up and this still being talked about 😅

[lone umbra]

[dusk plover]

Yes people gotta stop bringing up stuff that’s been down hours ago lol

[dusk plover]

Dog I literally asked what SEA solo times looked like just for pure curiosity and how close they were to CN and I get some SEA guys flipping out like the world is going to be destroyed because of it lol. No different from when I ask you what Xbox times are looking like every now and then 😂

[fierce light]

It's probably too niche.

[magic prairie]

Fever dream type of shi

[dusk plover]

I mean my bad didn’t think me asking what SEA times were like would implode them 😅

I got them though and impressed 😅

[lone umbra]

yea probably... but it can come up

CN cooking poison rn

[dusk plover]

Well poison base strongest from last season until people start testing stuff out

Still just the first week

[dusk plover]

Did you put the solidification there for the attack boost? If so it would be interesting to see if the demon mark would count backfire as damage to self and increase that attack or not

[lone umbra]

yea i think attack boost and element accumulation as well

[dusk plover]

That’s what I figured which is why I agree with dark that you can trade that out once max potential for that accumulation node.

Probably something better and like I said if it did count the backfire self damage that would be interesting to see the damage difference with it on

Does the last node of the demon mark help/buff the surge chain attack? If not and it does count the backfire damage, would probably replace the two with backfire and renew vigor

[lone umbra]

i found one where they are still using solidification with max potential..

build probably T1-T1.5 considering.. ice surge one below now as burn build T0 atm

@fierce light https://www.douyin.com/video/7550759759691975972?modeFrom=searchResult

[dusk plover]

That was in test server wasn’t it though?

[lone umbra]

the vid is from main i believe i dont see watermarks

in fights

i could be wrong though

[dusk plover]

Well they also didn’t have akos as a selectable character is why I said that lol

[lone umbra]

well nvm it is from test server

my bad

[dusk plover]

Little Things (stats and stuff) would be different from test server to main which is main thing I brought it up

[lone umbra]

but yea build could be niche so there are not cooking it yet

they are surely testing poison build though

[dusk plover]

I mean just from that video though definitely looks like something that could be really good. Just early still

[lone umbra]

and hydroflare and ice surge still top tier

[lone umbra]

yea exactly but in main server they might have nerfed it

[dusk plover]

If the nodes haven’t been nerfed yeah I think they would, especially hero specific ones

[lone umbra]

I saw one live streaming that build on main server but couldnt get jades

[dusk plover]

Honestly missed hydroflare so much 😭

[lone umbra]

i feel poison thunder seal going to be good

toxin blast procs faster

[dusk plover]

Well one thing I did like about this season is the lower amount of new jades and introduction to a bigger potential tree so you can really dig into builds from last/older season instead of just scrapping it all for a whole new set of stuff

[dusk plover]

Haven’t tried it yet. Just finished fatigue last night and going to look into new builds Sunday since i finally got all of them lol

Especially a swarm build lol. Don’t care if it’s not close to top tier. If it can do its job and is fun it will be my favorite lol

[lone umbra]

swarm feels powerful.. ulti charge fast in 1-2 deadeye charge

[cursive kestrel]

it's been 4 days and I haven't ran out of fatigue

[balmy coral]

I'm already 0 crystals

[cursive kestrel]

ur so hurry

[balmy coral]

Ye cos sub-zero won't work anymore without banner

I have no choice

[cursive kestrel]

im trying not to deconstruct anything

[fierce light]

Backfire never disables. Even if there's no health left to take, so it boosts everything.

[fierce light]

Yeah, it has the highest dmg coefficients for a non-ultimate attack.

[balmy coral]

I have pile up jades tbh can't be bothered now waiting for next reset to farm again.

[lone umbra]

💀

Bro save up no need to max build now

[lone umbra]

Why would you want to do that

What... we can't use animated emoji of same server without nitro?💀

[fierce light]

Yeah

[balmy coral]

I had no choice kylin doesn't work with sub zero anymore 😭

Everything he does depletes his HP and cancels his ult

[fierce light]

I'm down to like 200 Crystals and Fragments. Going to start stocking up now.

[lone umbra]

I controled myself this week. Got 550 crystals.

[fierce light]

Man it would be nice if they announced any plans to release jades mid-season. Or at least a clue of what they were planning for Curios

So far the dedicated builds don't look to be changing, if anything they got better cause of more buffs from potential from Surge

[balmy coral]

Truee

[lone umbra]

Just curious how many crystals we can get from all nirriti runs? 300-320?

Or more than that

[lone umbra]

I can focus on finishing it then 1 mod and 1 windfall is all i need

[fierce light]

Yoto Curio makes Defuse jades useless despite the 12% DMG Amp. At most I can see them improving Ziping's Curio for something like:

• Defuse - Poison Charge
• Mushroom Summoning
• Toxified Chain
• Thunderpull
• Successive Ice Blast
• Frostbite Chain

[mighty cave]

I want to upgrade my souljades

[fierce light]

Yeah if you average 5-8 per run, you'd get around 340.

[mighty cave]

I can't find the

[balmy coral]

@fierce light In any case would sub zero be better than backfire?

[fierce light]

They're equivalent unless you have some Burn. Then Backfire is always better.

[balmy coral]

I see got it. I will do some testing

[mighty cave]

Cn you help me with upgrading my soljade

[fierce light]

For Kylin though, Backfire is always better, no question.

[mighty cave]

[fierce light]

You can't upgrade them directly anymore, more so recast for better attributes

[mighty cave]

Oh is that it

But how do I upgrade them attri

[fierce light]

You go to recast on them and go to Recast Value to increase the % of the Attribute. Or Recast Attribute to change the attribute.

[mighty cave]

Oh thanks

[hidden creek]

got 6 wf on kylin 🥹 now i gotta pump those attributes to max

[thorn narwhal]

What were the numbers compared to the original lotus time 2 seasons ago

[shrewd basin]

lol the curse worked

[balmy coral]

I got 3 scorching today and 1 mod

before 1 windfall

Don't ahh me

[fierce light]

Hmm, there could be an Ice Lotus Surge Mark build

• Successive Ice Blast
• Frozen Blast

• Elemental Lotus
• Ghastbloom

• Elemental Surge (Ice-Wielding)

• Defuse · Frostbind

[thorn narwhal]

Hmm so not even close, specially with the lower accumulation

[thorn narwhal]

Btw they skipped season 3.5 for some reason and went ahead to 4.0

[fierce light]

Take advantage of Essence Binding Seal and Lotus Spirit Surge for extremely high Accumulation Rate against marked targets.

[hidden creek]

so now i got:

• maxed ice surge
• maxed ILM
• decent kylin dedicated build
• decent bow
  wonder if i should spend resources trying new builds or stock them and wait for curio

though the F spam build looks fun

and the swarm deadye too

lmfao i just realized i disassembled all of my scorching jades

[shrewd basin]

Akos western style gun slinger

[hidden creek]

if only pistol deadeye was somewhat decent

[dusk plover]

No im talking about the self damage you take from backfire stacking towards the demon mark stuff. If so put on renew and heal as you do damage then lose the health so you’re getting that buff of damage from renew and more demon mark damage from the self damage of backfire

If that is making sense

[lone umbra]

Ngl that F spam looks so fun. I am just waiting for CN to cook that

[hidden creek]

isn't it they finished cooking

either chain or lotus

[lone umbra]

They only cooked in test server. Haven't seen in main version

[hidden creek]

oh

[lone umbra]

Wonder if it is not that good

[hidden creek]

yeah then gotta see later on higher yama floor to see how it actually perform

[lone umbra]

💯

[fickle linden]

long wait, might aswell spend sum

[hidden creek]

yeah 6 months season

💀

oh but i wonder if this time they could release TI in the middle of the season

as they promised since the beginning

[fickle linden]

did they?

[hidden creek]

yeah

[fickle linden]

i never saw them promise it

can you link it

[hidden creek]

when TI first get added into the game

[fickle linden]

there was nothing about being released middle of season in the patchnotes when TI was added

[hidden creek]

there is

[fickle linden]

go read

i just read it last week

[hidden creek]

if it's not on global patchnote then it's on weixin post

[fickle linden]

it just says that TI opens during 2nd half of season

nothing that it open middle of season

[hidden creek]

2nd half isn't middle of the season?

[fickle linden]

during 2nd half

[drifting lance]

🎉 | TenKey leveled up!

[fickle linden]

doesn't mean start of 2nd half

people just misread it

and think it's supposed to start middle of season

it has never started in middle

[hidden creek]

lol then they might aswell just say late into the season

or when season about to ends

[fickle linden]

it possibly says that, i dont remember how they said it

but it never says middle i remember that

[hidden creek]

ok, but by that logic technically speaking it could be middle

[balmy coral]

Pistol is shit

Since it should be played closed up but matari ult works for it

[fickle linden]

logic and naraka mix like oil and water

but i remember reading the patch notes and it was pretty clear TI is released every season towards end of the season

[hidden creek]

previous season curio exist for like how long

1 month?

[fickle linden]

something like that

3 or 4 weeks i think

or 4-5

but yeah about month

[hidden creek]

🤔

then it's like

one third of a season?

eh but with curio rng anything can happens anyway

first TI i got like 3 perfect curios

previous season i got 0

[fickle linden]

yeah it's probably month 4/6 in long seasons and 2/3 in short ones then

i cant remember how long TI lasted for the 2.5 season

but it felt longer than last one

they sure love rng

[fierce light]

This what I'm working with:
-# I have some Poison stuff built too, but only considering Poison Mark and Yoto Dedicated build.

[hidden creek]

i'm not gonna touch poison again

[fickle linden]

i got maxed PLM, ILM, bow, kylin dedicated atm

[balmy coral]

Ice Surge and kylin rn

[fickle linden]

and few maxed swappable jades like venomous lotus, tundra whatever

gotta build few maxed jades like surge and stuff and i got pretty good coverage

i was about to retire kylin after curios but i just got heng extreme gotta keep playing him

[balmy coral]

I will main kylin on Peak until there's a proper pistol build

[fierce light]

I don't recall Demon Mark doing anything from taking damage.

[fickle linden]

ima go back to mobbing in peak, it's good map again this season

and im faster mobber than most ppl

[hidden creek]

feel like they're locked in to the ''if you want to compete for yama you must have a character dedicated build and curio''

first season was tarka

[dusk plover]

Whatever was the jade combination where the boss takes the damage you take. Not sure if it was solely the demon mark or not