👾┃showdown

[cursive fable]

i think 30% ele, 12% att 12% boss 24% weapon?

[cursive kestrel]

hope every potential is balanced

[calm kestrel]

Its defo not going to be 😅😂

[fierce light]

DMG to Bosses, Attack, Weapon DMG Bonus, & Elemental Accumulation Rate

[cursive fable]

oh perfect

thats the one i have lol!

do you know how much dps increase the 24% weapon dmg bonus is for matari?

[fierce light]

It's in the Naraka PvE sheet, under Stat Reader and DMG Parser tabs.

[cursive fable]

assuming ice surge set with wordless sutra

i need to push on matari lol

[dusty wharf]

dawg

eat fast

[tribal bone]

@cursive fable did u complete your 150%??

[cursive fable]

@tribal bone ya

[tribal bone]

oh

[cursive fable]

i capped fatigue in 4hrs

lol

was quick running with dark

[dusty wharf]

you on na ?

[cursive fable]

ya

[tribal bone]

guys, which mode drops more gold keys??

[fickle linden]

game recognizes that i playing kylin only since tempered inferno

[dusty wharf]

ahhh 💔

[cursive fable]

@fickle linden grats

[fickle linden]

just in time for new season

to never play kylin again

[tribal bone]

game gave me pistol 🤡

[dusty wharf]

game gave me L

[tribal bone]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1409227950548717599/1414705458677022811/image0.gif

[dusty wharf]

[fickle linden]

i like it

but yeah ranged skins always kinda suck to get

[tribal bone]

i got canon, greatsword and pistol from chests

ob my 100th pull on each

🤡

whats best mode to farm gold keys ?

[cobalt whale]

paragon 10 trios 31s

[fierce light]

Around 5.7% from Weapon DMG +24%

[cursive fable]

ty!

thats huge!

[fierce light]

Same places for Crystals. DitD and Ruins

[cursive fable]

@fierce light if i got a skill damage 24% instead of weapon dmg 24% on matari

that could mean like 8% less damage imo

matari doenst even use her skill to damage

[dusty wharf]

noone coming

[fickle linden]

woah

[dusty wharf]

tf did I do ?

[tribal bone]

??

[dusty wharf]

check the chats

[tribal bone]

oh

why did he get offended

[dusty wharf]

idk he got angry or smthing

[tribal bone]

😭

DM him

[fierce light]

Yeah about 0.58% increase in DPS.

[dusty wharf]

which mode u playin ?

[tribal bone]

im up for anything

[dusty wharf]

invite

[cursive fable]

@fierce light wait

24% skill is like 0.58% increase?

ohh

24% weapon for matar iss 5.8

thats like missing 5% dps

[fierce light]

Yeah Skill DMG only makes up about 6.61% of her Base DMG.

[cursive fable]

thats nuts

[tribal bone]

me when i play with kylin 🤩

LMAO

[dusty wharf]

only by using skill multiple times I increased the dmg by 10m than avg

[cursive fable]

@fierce light sometimes having 1 bad attribute on yang curio

could fuck up top 3 chances entirely lol

[tribal bone]

damn

[fierce light]

Yeah, feels like they made it this way to make it harder to take over the leaderboards.

But doesn't matter when it's already hard enough to make dedicated builds.

[dusty wharf]

avg match when after putting freeze effect the kylin kills them

and I can't get my skill back up

[cobalt whale]

[cursive fable]

@fierce light this is CN yueshan timer

making SEAs yueshan time looks like a joke

the 1:37 needs lightning exclusvie build

i dont think anyone has it on global server lol

[dusty wharf]

if we want to use last season's curio what is the best

[calm kestrel]

How’re you able to see CN leaderboards from NA?

[cursive fable]

oh i was watching a chinese stream

[hidden creek]

wdym what's the best

[cursive fable]

i told him to check it for me lol

[calm kestrel]

Ahhh

[calm kestrel]

What streamer?

[fierce light]

Yeah, I stopped bothering checking CN cause not only are they stock full of resources some reason, they have stable low ping, much higher tick rate on their servers and generally good devices to run it on (in comparison to console).

[cursive fable]

just some randoms one on bilbili with 1 viewer

@fierce light ye

like for some heros

top 1 na time couldnt even make it to top 30 CN

[hidden creek]

generally speaking in this game top 1 in anything in global is nothing compare to cn

so what's new

[calm kestrel]

I feel like CN has a lot more guaranteed resources for sure.

[fierce light]

I've seen a few of their moves and things they do in half a second would take me at least 1.5s to do.

[calm kestrel]

That’s insane.

Optimised servers.

[west crater]

Thank you Dark Zero. If one day someone here is blessed in those events of winning 50 chests, the first will be you.

[fierce light]

Like some of their techs in Speedrun Immovable were absolutely insane.

[cursive fable]

ya darkzero is the saving grace

for global showdown

@fierce light i will try push matari

my curio is the best for it

@fierce light if one more check plz

how much dmg increase is 12% boss damage for matari ice surge ?

lol rank 1 NA matari got 12% non-boss damage on his curio

[fierce light]

+4.84% DPS increase.

[cursive fable]

oh

thats not too insignificant

having it will prob make his speed faster by like 10sec

@fierce light i almost forgot

but realized

12% non boss damage exist on curio

lol

what a rng meme

[rotund forge]

Still there?

[fierce light]

Yeah they could've at least balanced the %'s based on how specific a dmg bonus is rather than whatever they did.

[fickle linden]

non boss dmg, uncharged dmg both op

i want them both

blue if possible

[dusty wharf]

come fast

[rotund forge]

Onning

[cursive fable]

even rage/dmg done

is like a non relevant stat for most heros

doenst directly boost dps

[fierce light]

Would be good for Tessa, Tarka and Yueshan. Anyone Ult reliant really. But there's a lot of diminishing returns from Verve Banner.

[cursive fable]

@fierce light i feel like matari is really easy to play

just press f

AND shift +left click non stop

lol

as yueshan, sometimes i struggle (esp in ult form) whether to charge right click or normal uncharge swings

[thorn narwhal]

bro who asked for this

so that's another nerf to surge, which means kylin jades get a nerf too

[lone umbra]

It is still there in current season

[fierce light]

No duration?

Just when Element Surge is inactive or any time after it has ended?

Depending on which, it'll technically be a buff, aside from those focusing on Divine Thunder DMG.

[lone umbra]

I don't think it would be without duration

[thorn narwhal]

bro i legit didn't notice, as the description of element fury is almost the same

i thought it was in-surge all this time lmao

[hidden creek]

to be fair nothing changed no?

[thorn narwhal]

not sure but they probably gonna put more details into description when it goes live,

[hidden creek]

in 30s you'll get into and get out of surge again

[fierce light]

I'll have to see the stat bonuses for the Seal section, but it looks like dedicated Curio builds haven't changed.

Yeah it's just inactive for the first 20-30s or so of a run.

[thorn narwhal]

they seem to be pushing seal and burn this season

[cursive fable]

@fierce light rank 1 cn matari lol

his curio has uncharged attack 3%

insane

still #1 for solo matari

[fierce light]

Majority of her damage, outside of Element is Uncharged DMG so it's not that terrible.

[thorn narwhal]

not sure how hard could it be to just edit current flux/shards to let you select rare instead of adding new item and make it more confusing

[hidden creek]

bruh they do that on purpose

they want us to play more

[thorn narwhal]

and 2 selection per season is nowhere near enough, but guess we are stuck with that now

[thorn narwhal]

like the daily grind we do now wasn't enough lol, they want more

[hidden creek]

yeah like 4 more seasons then they'll probably replace old flux with new flux

[zinc path]

need a New thunder meta ice is dumb boring ;/

i have 2.5k ish Fragments saved up

[fickle linden]

can i interest you in one kylin zhang?

[fierce light]

Thunder Seal stuff seems interesting.

[north lynx]

Doing ditd while working from home is a life hack

[tribal bone]

its boring asf tho

💔

[north lynx]

Ye but if I'm working from home it's already > doing nothing

Really nice way to fill down time

Instead of 2 min pauses

So much better than hardcore grinding ditd non stop for 8 hours

[cursive fable]

@north lynx hi bby

still pushing yamas?

[north lynx]

Yeah I will be

Just touching up my build

[hollow helm]

hi

[twin ledge]

@lone umbra I recheck in cn

Justina is using ice surge for trios

They just have all ice dmg and dmg to aegis for all jades

[last hatch]

Any one wanna play Yama paragon 9

[thorn narwhal]

having curios gone, and going back to this is gonna be so depressing

[maiden sierra]

So that new boss has some interesting grabs

[viscid wraith]

[thorn narwhal]

there's still more, they really force us into this mode too much, why not all tasks take the same time to finish

[twin ledge]

Ok tried not saying it but if players are not good enough for temp they need to go to a lower level and get out the nightscream and griefing players that are actually good enough for it

[fierce light]

Battle Zones can be done without fatigue, think they made the others go faster cause they need fatigue.

[twin ledge]

Devs need to start adding stuff to let them not be able to do nightscream this is stupid how I drop basically 60 mil and still only kill 7 bosses almost 5 one dies 5 times while other died 2 didn’t even get hit till end when they decided let’s move mobs away from middle

Thought for once randoms would be different for once but nah

That was different breed of bad randoms

[thorn narwhal]

well ye, still waste of time to even just run it without fatigue, that's it for me i didn't wanna play it at start of the season but it is a lot now considereing how people are actually fatigued from nirriti

[thorn narwhal]

the same problems that will never change,

• unbearable randoms who can't finish normal inferno are there in nightscream
• RNG still a factor
• no gold keys or enough crystals to help balance things

at least i'm grateful for kylin being there the only reason that's keeping my sanity in check with those randoms that he can carry a lot more than any other character.

[fierce light]

Definitely, but it does give something else to focus on while you grind Nirriti's anyway.

[twin ledge]

Problem is they prob try it out the first time and they end up being carried by someone and so they think so if that happens maybe they can keep doing it

They keep doing it they gonna find out how petty I can be

I’ll leave it right when we spawn in idc anymore

Carrying is fine and all but if they are playing it like that without asking someone to help them is just weird

This is what I think is happening

They think maybe it’s fine to let someone that actually cares for the materials to carry them with builds that don’t even work whatsoever

The ziping had legitimately potential with green, red and blue in potential

It was weird never seen it before

And playing solo is just make u lose luck cause we don’t get luck bonus from teammates so it’s kinda just griefing

[thorn narwhal]

it's kinda awful that even after when we carry them all the way, you still find them 5 matches later or even days later still didn't activate luck bonus

but ye sometimes i just have enough and give up, leave, die or afk

[twin ledge]

Ngl I blocked some of them so I know to not Que

When they do

[thorn narwhal]

they should make it a requirement for them to be able to access inferno trio nightscream they have to complete solo nightscream first, not just finishing "normal difficulty" or at the very least get to wave 7/8.

[thorn narwhal]

wish there was an avoid teammates feature like many other games, but not many here would seem to care about it

[twin ledge]

Yea well keeps happening ima be so petty randoms ain’t gonna to even wanna random Que anymore

I swear I will ima get in game fully and straight up leave first round bet they won’t do trios again

Cause it’s out of hand randoms shouldn’t be in nightscream if they can’t do more than 100k

Cause that game just upset me so much prob worse randoms I’ve seen in it

Didn’t even make sense

[fierce light]

Gonna be really sad if a bunch of players that played at least the last few weeks don't have yin-yang synergy next week

PSA

The last day to get Yin-Yang Synergy Bonus is <t:1758063540:R>!

How to Acquire

• Get 1 extreme Yang and 1 extreme Yin Curio and awaken them.
  What it Does
• Provide +3000 Luck for yourself and +1000 Luck for your teammates until the next Tempered Inferno opens.
  -# Luck increases the quality of Souljades you get from all missions except Nirriti's Ruins.

[balmy coral]

[woven shell]

who is this number 4?

https://tenor.com/view/spam-gif-3643884685273536140

@twin ledge

[signal kite]

That's ニクス

[tribal bone]

I agree

[signal kite]

[tribal bone]

Is that Nitasu ?

Damn I stopped learning Japanese for two months and im already forgetting about Hiragana

Shame

[lapis folio]

funny boy~ funny boy~

[cursive kestrel]

[viscid wraith]

[crimson cave]

thats why i prefer korean - its impossible to forget just like english

[tribal bone]

Sheesh, Korean is difficult?

[crimson cave]

grammar is a bit tricky, closer to Japanese, pronunciation is super easy also imo its the most sweet sounding language ever, writing system is the most modern in the world that makes it the easiest compared to pther systems in asia. vocabulary and slang can be tricky tho it shares a lot of vocab with chinese and japanese, so if you are studying all 3 its relatively easy to catch up

funny tho chinese is the easiest grammar wise, but hardest in terms of pronunciation (god damn those tones) and writing (tho i found the latter not being as bad as I imagined it to be once you start seeing logic)

[tribal bone]

Fr

I hate Japanese and Chinese for thise complicated kanjis

[hidden creek]

b a r s

[cursive kestrel]

woah october?

[tribal bone]

Man, i cant wait ngl

[balmy coral]

So it is replacing flux???

Whyy

Flux is so hard to get already

[cursive kestrel]

yesss

[balmy coral]

WTF

Are they insane???

[tribal bone]

They r

[cursive kestrel]

hm

[hidden creek]

Why?

[cursive kestrel]

possibly zai would come around that time

[balmy coral]

bro a week of grind if lucky only gets u 2 flux shards

[hidden creek]

And?

[cursive kestrel]

i thought they would give us both, but they just replace it

[balmy coral]

If we get less flux then that means building some builds that need 2 rares get insanely hard

[hidden creek]

Wdym you get flux less

[balmy coral]

Astral 2 gets u normal flux

[hidden creek]

I dont see how it's less than current

[cobalt torrent]

but it's the same tho, it just let's you roll rare mod to a desired rare mod as additional upside

[cursive kestrel]

actually they just replace flux , this legend jade can be used like flux

it's just the same

[hidden creek]

Well, yeah?

[balmy coral]

I meant that u can use it as normal flux but u wouldn't do it to save some trouble with double rare jades

[cursive kestrel]

they didn't give us more

[hidden creek]

That's on you lol

[balmy coral]

Lol

[hidden creek]

Technically you can always consider it as "nothing changed"

[balmy coral]

Wouldn't that make the new flux system useless?

[cursive kestrel]

absolutely

[hidden creek]

So it's just not true when you say "we get less flux with this change"

[balmy coral]

Lol

[cursive kestrel]

they just force u to use it with second rare

[balmy coral]

Well stupid as ever

[cursive kestrel]

that's it

[balmy coral]

That's not how it should work as fair implementation

[hidden creek]

Lol indeed, "lol"

[balmy coral]

Funny

[cursive kestrel]

bro like nothing changed

[balmy coral]

Well whatever I guess

[hidden creek]

Not as funny as you're talking like they nerfed the amount of flux given via achievements which is simply not true, "lol"

[balmy coral]

I meant that why replace the current system when u implement a new one which naturally won't help players.

[north lynx]

It's just you get 3 choice rares per season

[hidden creek]

Except it does?

[balmy coral]

I'm not sure if u get it since u don't thrive for specific builds

[hidden creek]

How do you know i dont?

[cursive kestrel]

people use flux to get second rare, then u gamble, if u didn't get what u want, u use this legend jade

well at least, u can choose

[balmy coral]

Ye I thought they'd keep the current system

I get it

[north lynx]

Is it not the same current system?

[hidden creek]

It is but lil bit better

[balmy coral]

I meant thats Legend flux the new one

[north lynx]

What's different outside of 3 flux jades being special

[plain spire]

The new flux we can pick our desired rare?

[cursive kestrel]

different if u keep rolling between scorching and mod when u need windfall

[north lynx]

Yeah

[balmy coral]

Only if u use it on an existing rare

[hidden creek]

Only if you use it on a rare

[plain spire]

Sounds good to me

[hidden creek]

Yeah better than nothing

[balmy coral]

I thought it was an additional system not a complete overhaul

[north lynx]

Triple windfall lucky break incoming

[tribal bone]

I think its upgrade
Like for example imagine u got a jade with two rares where the second one rolls into scorching, u can use new flux and choose what rare u want
Unlike current flux which is random

[balmy coral]

I was wrong then

[north lynx]

[hidden creek]

Not good enough but better than nothing

[balmy coral]

I get that bro pretty basic

[tribal bone]

No cap, i think its upgrade even if we dont get more of it 💀

[balmy coral]

I'd hate to agree with that

[tribal bone]

Coz i dont want 7 scorching on my last ice jade

💀

[tribal bone]

Basically 💯

[north lynx]

18 windfall build incoming on my luck build

[balmy coral]

Ppl do that already I posted like 3 times ppl has it

[cursive kestrel]

they would probably replace flux in showdown pass with this one

[hidden creek]

Leecher

[north lynx]

Ye I don't tho I only have it on blessed

[balmy coral]

Built diff fr

[tribal bone]

💀

[hidden creek]

Yeah confirmed flux in bp is new flux

[balmy coral]

This is so stupid

[tribal bone]

Guys

What will happen to the flux i got in my inventory?

[cursive kestrel]

so where we will we get flux from if they replace it like this?

[tribal bone]

Will i lose them ?

[balmy coral]

You'd be forced to grind and use resources on a random jade to get shards for that 2nd rare

[cursive kestrel]

it's still there

[hidden creek]

If you dont want to do that stick to old system like we only have 1 type of flux lol

[north lynx]

#1266666196552519742 is good to express discontent with the new system. I've heard you don't need to use it on a base rare though

[balmy coral]

They will never listen so I'll just leave it

[tribal bone]

W
I don't wanna lose my saved flux

[north lynx]

But you can get it changed early honestly, there's several game changes I've suggested that are now in the game

[hidden creek]

Like?

[north lynx]

Turning tempest kick, faster fistblade scale rushes, muting in game emotes

[cursive kestrel]

i just noticed

[north lynx]

Those are the 3 off the top but there's been more that I've suggested that have been listened to

[hidden creek]

U sure that's from you?

[north lynx]

Yeah no one else suggested it

[hidden creek]

Cuz as i see it they never listened to global

[north lynx]

That's just a rumor honestly, because they ignore the major issues we all want

[hidden creek]

Including cn? Doubt

[north lynx]

Like servers and fps

[tribal bone]

Nah I think new system is better if they give us same amount of flux

My personal opinion

[north lynx]

As far as I'm aware from looking at their feedback surveys translated. I can't know for sure but these are niche asks that were fixed relatively quickly after I asked

[cursive kestrel]

flux is replaced by this one and we can't get them anymore, maybe it'd be just like that old recast stone

[north lynx]

And I have seen some of darks showdown suggestions listened to

It can't hurt to ask

Issue is like

I make tons of suggestions and they only listen to a fraction lol

[cursive kestrel]

gotta keep flux like old teasure

[fickle linden]

i think it's just that people in china have asked for the same things and they've implemented them becasue of that

it just happened to be same thing you gave feedback on

[north lynx]

Ye but that's a very niche ask

[tribal bone]

Well current flux is rare too
U dont get them easily

[fickle linden]

i mean they take naraka way more serious in china, they ask niche things in there

[north lynx]

The surveys are public though and those aren't mentioned

[fickle linden]

if they listened feedback they would answer like in #1266668874125021225 when complain is heard, and when people are banned

[cursive kestrel]

we can get flux shard but flux jade we only get it like this legend jade, it's actually replaced

[north lynx]

I have also tagged fugei and he's answered with fixes very fast

I think people just want to belive they don't listen cause the gamer thing is to think devs don't care honestly, + the China bias, but I have gotten better direct feedback listens here than any other game

Even if I think their anti cheat is a joke

Even if I think fps and ms interactions are mind wrenching garbage

That irritates me to the core on how p2w it makes the game

Minor asks almost always get fixed

[amber terrace]

[north lynx]

Tbh if they didn't listen to feedback, champion fight would still be 16, so it's a double edge sword.

That was definitely a feedback driven request lol

And I hate that

[cursive fable]

@north lynx i think this game is a meme

competitive wise

[north lynx]

But I mean it's good they listen

[cursive fable]

even mike said he wants to quit pro

its not a serious game imo, most people play it for the graphic /skins etc

[north lynx]

Depends on the region and the situation. The game at a high level is fun if it's equalized. Competitive is fun if you - teaming, cheaters, region exclusive scrimming to create country vs country rivalry, lack of esports payouts on time

However if none of that is in play, comp is great

Last year I watched a ton of comp nbpl games and I enjoyed it, it was very peak

[cursive fable]

the thing is in this game, most players are like big noobs compare to the top CN pros

like no joke

the top NA players are like Plat Vs challenger

i just feel like the skill gap between the 0.1% vs0.01% is too huge

no way for NA players to improve

since like 90% of the lobbys are bots and causuals

[north lynx]

That's a bit of a misconception, because we only have 5 top players

At all

[balmy coral]

If u think u better off to play in ranked

It's more fun

[north lynx]

And comp isn't ranked

Comp isn't even iw

Comp is just scrims and tournaments

[cursive fable]

@north lynx the top 1 NA player struggles to get a point tho in EWC

cuz NAsoloq is too meme

[north lynx]

Tryhard did very well in global for many years

[balmy coral]

Did u see the recent drama in the scrims?

[north lynx]

Which there's so many

[cursive fable]

i dont think thats the case in any other games

[balmy coral]

They can't even set the rules for it

[balmy coral]

Yu

The family meta they'd say

[north lynx]

If you've seen tryhards solo record I think you'd be shocked on how well he's done global. He was considered to be responsible for the old hadi meta

[cursive kestrel]

hope they increase rare attr rate

[north lynx]

Now we all know Mike's the goat

[viscid wraith]

[cursive fable]

is the 15% damagebonus

similar to boss damage

its not 15% more dps right?

that would be crazy

[balmy coral]

It's just a surprise how ppl play in CN and yet it's not Okay on global without downward rules or so

[cursive fable]

this game is a competitive meme in CN tho

its popularity is all female cosplayer cosplaying showing case their feet in bibili

lol

like i swear

all CN female cosplayers cosplay any hero in this game

[north lynx]

The issue from what I heard from hypernova when he was talking to me about it is moreso the us vs them mentality over there, cn player refuse to scrim with global players when they are over there, and Global have almost no time to practice on cn servers where the game feels insanely better.

[cursive fable]

@north lynx naraka is actually the #3 played game in CN

last month

kinda insane

[north lynx]

Ye very popular

[cursive fable]

ya but most people play for the cooming aspect

im not exeraggerating

since yellow site banned in CN

[north lynx]

That's why @balmy coral plays so I'm sure it's probably true

[cursive fable]

and alot of the skins here are over the boaderline

[north lynx]

Ain't that right?

[cursive fable]

have u noticed

[north lynx]

[cursive fable]

all the skins we got recently are barefoot

[lone umbra]

[balmy coral]

[cursive fable]

even the new showdown boss has like the feet attack execution

im telling you, this game competitive aspect is a meme

[cursive kestrel]

bro i hate barefeet

[lone umbra]

[balmy coral]

Take your tongue out

[north lynx]

I don't think the feet agenda is why the game isn't comp

And I think the game can be comp

If it's lan

And same pcs

[cursive kestrel]

i look at it and feel like i gotta go wash em

[cursive fable]

comp means competitive?

[north lynx]

Yeah

[cursive fable]

@north lynx have u noticed

[balmy coral]

before u lick it? Ofc

[cursive fable]

the ladder for immortal/showdown on CN

[lone umbra]

Or u can put shoes

[fickle linden]

chinese players dont wanna scrim with global players because it doesnt help them anyway, they are beyond them in skill level and when its close to tournament you dont have time to troll around

[cursive fable]

is like couple good palyers boosting 10x other peoples account

[north lynx]

They say that then tryhard nukes them for a season

[cursive fable]

like CNs immoratl war ladder is mostly boosted lol

[cursive kestrel]

most of outfits looking so damn good but barefeet? It turned meh for me immediately

[north lynx]

Idk it's def not that it's just they don't want to leak playstyles with people who don't already know

[cursive kestrel]

why people wanna run on dirt barefeet and even climb building with that

[north lynx]

The skill level gap is over exaggerated

[cursive fable]

like for top cn players vs avg joes?

1v1 wise, prob a bit exaggerated

but in a open tourney format like that?

[north lynx]

I generally think most naraka players are lower iq so I think vs average Joe's they are gods

I think most people are lower iq*

In general

[cursive fable]

like naraka players?

[north lynx]

Yeah

[cursive fable]

compare to which game?

[north lynx]

The average naraka player is very bad so it's hard to say

[cursive fable]

ye

i showed alot of top NA players this combo

no one can do it lol

[lone umbra]

Yeah, right? Atleast give sandles/ flip flops

[cursive fable]

maybe its a hotfix

[north lynx]

Like beyond ping and fps, they just don't use their brains

[cursive fable]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1qnejzkEHW/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

immortal cant do it

and hes like top 3 NA

[north lynx]

...immortal is a microer

Lol

[cursive fable]

maybe its hotfixed

i mean he did well in the scrim tourney right?

ya obvious nova/tryhard are top 2

[north lynx]

Yeah...because he's been cheating in scrims lol

[cursive fable]

nova is the goat tho

[north lynx]

Weaponswapper plays like 3 times a month and gapped him while he was cheating in the same tournament

[fickle linden]

i dont know, we have seen how global players do vs chinese in tournaments

[cursive fable]

im shocked how OP nova is

[fickle linden]

frozt is best example as he has been in china for some time now

[cursive fable]

he was playign rift like past months lol

@fickle linden frozt is like top 5 CN level

[fickle linden]

yeah he is very good, but there is clear difference between him and best players

[north lynx]

Tryhard had the hadi spree as well idk why that gets downplayed.

Created a whole meta

[cursive fable]

@fickle linden like who?

[north lynx]

Recency bias ig

[cursive fable]

theres only like 2 people better him tbh

he was the solo kill king recently

frozt = solo kill king

in the ewc

[lone umbra]

I got my matari star a perfect but she barefoot.. that skin needs a simple sandal not heels. Not a fan of sound of heels

[cursive fable]

i think he ranked #5 overall

[north lynx]

Na produced the best global solos players outside of cn which is kinda wild since our server is mega dead

If it was equalized competition would be crazy I think

[cursive fable]

@north lynx ya

wait

[north lynx]

But cn will always be 1

[cursive fable]

do we have better solo pros than SEA/TW/EU?

outside of frozt

[north lynx]

Better records for sure

[cursive fable]

our top 5 playes are better than the other regions?

[north lynx]

It's just 3, frost, tryhard, nova

No one else makes it

[cursive fable]

ya

@north lynx i was playing a bit last season right

nova was playing soloq

i think #3 on ladder or #4

looks like a noob to him

he might die to them once in a while

but i was watching his stream

its just so easy how nova owns like the top 10 player soloq ladder

it feels like nova has a kd 6-7 :1 against them

thats why i say the skill gap is huge

its like playing basketball

nova has a score of 21:4 vs the other top ranked players in soloq

[north lynx]

Wasn't I rank 4 last season

[cursive fable]

since tryahrd isnt playing

nah

not u

[north lynx]

Ay wait a min

[cursive fable]

even numza

i feel liek nova 6:7 -1 him

like just by eye streaming

[north lynx]

Yeah he probably is

[cursive fable]

ya

[north lynx]

I respect nova for sure

[cursive fable]

i think nova has around 2-3; 1

against immortal

like last season when they were both playing

they were farming everyone in the lobby

[north lynx]

And immortal is cheating so that just shows

[cursive fable]

and basically they only die to each other

[north lynx]

You watch casper download the cheats to prove immortal was cheating

Wild stream

https://m.twitch.tv/videos/2558266442

[cursive fable]

@north lynx are u still grinding yama solo?

i almost have a heartattack

its more boring than grinding pvp combo on a dummy lol

[north lynx]

Nah not really. It's boring

I just wanna secure a time somewhere

[cursive fable]

its my 1st season tryign to push

[north lynx]

Then call it

[cursive fable]

trio is not possible

peopel can take ur rank easily last second

solo yama, at least it takes some effort

were you pushing last season?

was there alot of rank/spots overtaken like at the last day?

lol ,if thats the case, then i would prob just call it, would be such a huge wasteof time

[north lynx]

Sorta

Some times are hard to top

Beating 32 seconds is difficult

[cursive fable]

like trio yama is less secure right?

compare to solo yama?

[north lynx]

Other way around

Solo Yama has the last min grinders usually

[cursive fable]

shit

like the last day before ending?

[north lynx]

Yeah

[cursive fable]

for top 3 right?

top 10 solo is a meme

[fickle linden]

there is no reward for top 10

only top 3

[cursive fable]

there is an icon

for top10

[fickle linden]

if u are rank 4 it's same rewards as rank 99

no

it's top 10 at any time during season

not end of season

if you are rank 5 temulch during 4th week of season u get the avatar

[cursive fable]

i dont. have the avater yet

is it delivered at the end of season?

[fickle linden]

yes

[cursive fable]

lol

[balmy coral]

You only thrive for unrival and that's it before

[fickle linden]

there is 0 point to farm yama if you cant get top 3

[balmy coral]

That's what I did for 2 years

[cursive fable]

top 3 is so grindy

no one is secure lol

[balmy coral]

12k points before seems non stop grind or getting your acc boosted

Now we have more ranks stuff

Dunno if it was to cover stuff up or encourage ppl to play more ranked

[fickle linden]

too many leaderboards

since they added rift traversal too

[cursive fable]

ye

[fickle linden]

i just do my few daily games and occasionally play some showdown atp

gonna wait and see what state naraka is in month or two

motivation low

atleast next week there is new showdown stuff

[cursive fable]

pushing top 3 is so time grinding

lol

[balmy coral]

Time to bet some money on this

[cursive fable]

reuqires too much effort

[fickle linden]

wtf is that

never seen those teams

[balmy coral]

Dota 2 The International

[fickle linden]

🥀

[balmy coral]

It happens once a year and will win some money

but I only bet money on the grand finals

[tribal bone]

Damn

We got a gambler here

[fierce light]

Yeah they said it'll replace some, the hero badge store will still be 1 Flux

[fierce light]

They removed those from appearing on Souljades, but if you have some really old ones they'll still be there.

[amber terrace]

https://www.douyin.com/video/7549356383280745788?modeFrom=searchResult

@fierce light unlimited F

[fierce light]

It's additive, yeah. Not x1.15 dmg.

[fierce light]

Thunder Seal must build a lot of accumulation, cause I'm not seeing how a Skill is enough alone.

[stiff jolt]

I am pre season 1 player at Showdown. I wanted to do a comeback, where am I now idk what these new things are can someone enlighten me a lil

And where can i find builds for characters?

[tribal bone]

Checked pinned msg

4th pinned msg

[stiff jolt]

what is the strongest element? fire?

[balmy coral]

[tribal bone]

Wait for new season

Its almost here

[stiff jolt]

what is it this season?

damn game changed a lot

[amber terrace]

[fierce light]

For now I'd say try to get Yin-Yang Synergy by running Tempered Inferno. You'll need to craft an extreme Yin and Yang Curio and fully enhance them to get it. It'll give you a Luck bonus lasting till next Tempered Inferno for yourself and your future teammates.

The players favorites in-game are usually pretty reliable in terms of recommended builds.

[stiff jolt]

alr

[cursive kestrel]

probably i shouldn't have high hope for them to be that generous

[lone umbra]

That and a 40% accumulation potential

[midnight trellis]

im around level 80 showdown and i play solo, where do i grind jade fast for recasting?

[fierce light]

40% is not nearly enough, as Ice has +125% (with Element Surge & Frost Douse), but that's not enough to proc with just Skill for most heroes.

[fierce light]

Enigma Domain.

[lone umbra]

I did that just yesterday

[midnight trellis]

Topaz Enigma? Where else if i ran out of key

[lone umbra]

Maybe that arcane thunder jade too

[tribal bone]

if u wanna farm nirriti, let me know

we r doing it rn

[midnight trellis]

thanks man, im playing other game rn

[fierce light]

Justina can proc Ice Blast with just Skill, cause her Skill has double accumulation for Ice.
-# 12 × 2 × 2.25 > 40
Yueshan in his Ultimate can cause it has a high multiplier at base.
-# 30 × 2.25 > 40
Feria can with 30% Elemental Accumulation Rate on her Curio.
-# 15 × 2.7 > 40

[fierce light]

But Tianhai being able to spam with 40%, even with Arcane Thunder shouldn't be enough.
-# (9 + 4.5) * 1.4 < 40

So Thunder Seal has to be applying significant accumulation.

[balmy coral]

@lone umbra

52 hours completed

[lone umbra]

Yeah seems like that

[lone umbra]

Nice

[balmy coral]

took long cos a bit of casual side quests and no skipped cut scenes

[steep patio]

so i assume we are going back to a fire defuse next season

[hidden creek]

dunno, i saw some clips of characters spamming their ability and it looks op

so maybe there's more than 1 meta build

[tribal bone]

when is new season playable?

[hidden creek]

when current season ends

[steep patio]

3-4 days

i want another fire meta season

that was fun

[ripe galleon]

is there any guide for farming the soul jades for showdown
i use kylin zhang

my current set ^

[hidden creek]

specific stages
nirriti nightscream and enigma peak (drops all souljades)

[ripe galleon]

ok

so its based on luck

also, is there any way to not get frozen

[turbid agate]

Use your skill/ult at the right time or defuse the freeze

[ripe galleon]

defuse as in ?

how

any button , or i shall idle my character to reduce the bar ..

[turbid agate]

When u see the ice symbol above your character warning u that you are about to be frozen, you can defuse it

[calm kestrel]

Go through the Showdown tutorial…it teaches you all the mechanics like defusing.

[ripe galleon]

aight

also this , any recommendations

[calm kestrel]

Builds depend on the hero you’re playing.

[ripe galleon]

for kylin what to use

im following player recommendations no 3 , and i dont have first 2 jades

[fickle linden]

read the guide in pinned messages

[calm kestrel]

In this channel, there are pinned messages. One of them is a Showdown Guide.

[ripe galleon]

ah ok ay

[lone umbra]

yeah There's so many build variation, burn, skill spamming, old lotus and surge build seems viable if they don't nerf it when releasing in main version

[ripe galleon]

i tried browsing guides, it says the content is not available

i just want to know about me not getting frozen when using ice build,

i know how to defuse attacks tho

holding right click then left click

[lone umbra]

Seems season revolve around potential tree too as some of were buffed and all possible options

[fickle linden]

thats how

[ripe galleon]

ooooooooooooooooh

ok ok

lemme practice

[hidden creek]

or you can use your skill/ult which gives gold focus which makes you immune to freeze too

[ripe galleon]

omg i finally did it

thanks alot

[dusty wharf]

wow

[plush grail]

I need the new season man I wanna play around with Swarm builds LOL

[hidden creek]

ranged is boring

[fierce light]

HydroFlare is certainly going to be the strongest it's ever been with all its new multipliers in the potential. Don't think Skyfire will be meta though as many of the new multipliers don't apply to Burn and Skyfire itself has a low multiplier.

[fierce light]

The pins tells when the maintenance begins

[hidden creek]

shiet so tpull tcounter 444 meta again?

[fierce light]

You can find where all Souljades drop and their effects here. The link is in the pins for future reference.

[fierce light]

Yeah, it was already somewhat on Tarka and Valda pre-Curios.

[cursive fable]

hi dark

is it more like 5% dps increase?

this effect

[hidden creek]

fugg i hate copperward 😭

[fierce light]

You'd need 200% DMG Bonus already for it to be just a 5% increase

[cursive fable]

emmm, im a bit confused

[fierce light]

It would be more around 8-10% increase

[cursive fable]

thats still huge T.T

does the 15% stack addictive with like

weapon damage +boss damage+ice damage?

[fierce light]

Diminishing Returns = 1 / (1 + % you have already)

So at 100% DMG Bonus, you're at 50% Diminishing Returns, meaning your next increase will be 50% as valuable.
+15% would be +7.5% total increase.

• (100% + 100% + 15%) ÷ (100% + 100%) = 1.075
• 15% × 1 / (1 + 100%) = 0.075

[fierce light]

Yes

[cursive fable]

emmmi dont know how much DMG bonus im at?

395+24+12?

[fierce light]

Just add together everything that applies to that damage type. Ice Surge caps at 420% Ice Blast DMG when including Volatile Freeze.

[balmy coral]

Huanyue is so cringe now

Still attacking when it's supposed to transform, doing the same moveset 5 times..

I couldn't go any faster I need that 1 windfall and 3 element burst awakening

[hollow helm]

hello me and my firend need somone to help us in nirriti ruins

hello

#👾┃showdown

hello ??

@scenic wyvern

[fierce light]

Yeah they can make bosses interrupt their attacks to do their ultimate, but not to transform. Weird.

[fierce light]

Probably should try in #🐲┃showdown-lfg

[hollow helm]

ghosts there

[cursive fable]

showdown is so grindy haha

dark

i messed up my matari floating oof

[hollow helm]

me 2

[cursive fable]

i need to work on my defuse

[hollow helm]

can u help us

[cursive fable]

since matari never press right click

its better to defuse on matari

press left click first then right click

[hollow helm]

yes like i do

im using vald alot

[balmy coral]

It's so rng on solo so stupid

[cursive fable]

how do i chain defuse on matari?

is it pressing C after left+right click?

like multiple defusing

[hollow helm]

yes

[fierce light]

Yeah you can Defuse and do an Aerial Dodge to start her aerial attacks quickly instead of doing the Charged Horizontal.

[hollow helm]

anyone here can help me ?

[fierce light]

Tap Vertical right after.

[hollow helm]

2625600010166

[cursive fable]

is matari one of the hardest hero to play?

for yama solo?

[fierce light]

Better to dodge instead of defuse on Matari though since it does less Health DMG to Defuse.

Aegis-break

• 21.70 × Attack
  Defuse Counterattack
• 10.10 × Attack

[cursive fable]

dodge means shift?

ya its harder to dodge imo due to the animtion locl haha

i think dodging breaks her floating attack stance?

[fierce light]

Don't hold it, tap it, you can air dash as much as you want as long as you have stamina

The potential that's coming up will restore all your stamina on successful dodges.

[cursive fable]

i try pvping after spamming showdown

my pvp feels like a noob

hard to main both pvp/pve at once in this game

the pve is so skill required here

[fierce light]

I play on Controller, so don't know the Keyboard buttons.

[cursive fable]

hi dark

if i use my matari F to avoid the incoming self freeze

is it a good idea? or am i losing dps by doing so?

i hate defusing every self freeze, the defuse window on matari is extremely small

[fierce light]

Mainly want to be careful using it while Ice Blast is on cooldown. It does the same amount of accumulation as 2 Aegis-breaks buffed by her Skill.

[cursive fable]

yaaa

i can keep charging the F

until i see ice blast is off cd

if i do that , then its okay right?

[fierce light]

She's very ping reliant unfortunately for defusing

[cursive fable]

ye

[fierce light]

If it lets you that long, sure.

[north lynx]

@cursive fable laughing in geforce now

[cursive fable]

@north lynx is gfn a meme or is it good?

[drifting lance]

🎉 | 时来天地皆同力 leveled up!

[north lynx]

Are u scamming ping

To 30?

[fierce light]

I hear it's good, for remote play

[north lynx]

For that purpose it's amazing

[cursive fable]

like 40

ish

[north lynx]

If you are just playing closest to your region it's worse because input delay

[cursive fable]

i live in california

play on NA

[north lynx]

But if you select the Midwest server

You'll get 30 ping

[cursive fable]

is it good for my location?

[north lynx]

Choose Midwest

You'll thank me later

[cursive fable]

on gfn right?

[north lynx]

Ye

[cursive fable]

will it reduce input delay too?

i have the ultimate membership for it

do you remmeber which version of gfn u used last time?

[north lynx]

Not really will be about the same, but the ping being low will be absurd

Ultimate

[cursive fable]

ya the other 2 are shitty

lol

so base on my current location(california)

best spot for me is midwest?

let me try

[north lynx]

It's moreso you are scamming 30 ms

Which is the NA golden ping bracket

No one can untrue you

[cursive fable]

how about for showdown

it is helpful if i change it to midwest too

im currently at 46ms~

on GFN

[north lynx]

I think so I will probs re get it tonight

It'll be like 32 ms

Once u switch

[cursive fable]

arizona?

[north lynx]

O wow there's more servers

[cursive fable]

ty senpai

[north lynx]

I'll have to test for u

[cursive fable]

dude i was on the

balanced mode

lol

was i playing on 60fps

the entire time?

[north lynx]

LOL

[cursive fable]

i dont really know either, cuz for ingame naraka setting i choose uncap fps

wtf

i think texas is midwest?

let me try

@north lynx the performance tier is garbage tbh

its more close to the free tier than ultimate tier

[north lynx]

I'm getting it rn I'll help find it

We didn't have states when I used it

Just regions

[cursive fable]

ya regions is on bottom

my default is northern CA

you live in CA too?

[north lynx]

NV

Close tho

[cursive fable]

ya i live in sf

so we close

u choose texas?

lol i need a map

texas seems too far away

i think arizona or oregon better for us?

@north lynx bro ty for the help omg

360 fps>60 fps lol

[north lynx]

Np

I'm checking some servers for u rn

Illinois is 25 ping

I'll check input delay

A bit of input delay

Not too bad tho

I'll check arizona

Arizona should be the best balance

But if it's over 40 ms

Yeah it is

But idk it's trading input delay for lower server ping

In allot of situations I'd rather have lower server ping

[cursive fable]

ya

for showdown, pign doesnt matter that much right

esp solo yama

[north lynx]

Texas is it

[cursive fable]

i would rather have lower input delay?

or lower ms?

[north lynx]

It does people downplay it

But you get clean defuses

Faster recovery

Snappier parries

[cursive fable]

for ms right

how about input delay

if the input delay is a bit higher

i think it might be detrimental for shodown?

[north lynx]

Not if you know the boss tbh

[cursive fable]

let me try texas

guild raid

@north lynx your using compeititve mode on gfn too right?

lol

the default was balance mode, i didnt even realized it lol

was on that mode for 3 months lol

since i started play naraka

@north lynx oh shit

ya i can feel the higher input delay

but its 50ms to 30ms now

[viscid wraith]

[signal kite]

[cursive kestrel]

wish they have log-in event with free legend jade

[viscid wraith]

🌚

[lone umbra]

That would be too generous of them

[cursive kestrel]

they used to do it so i could hope

[lone umbra]

Yeah i remember that too

[cursive kestrel]

even i don't think they will again...

[lone umbra]

Yeah it was mostly one time Event

We may get event that give 1 flux shard

As current season started it did like that

[cursive kestrel]

better give us flux jade, why shard

finding the other one so you can use probably mean the same

[lone umbra]

How is ur akos boi doing in test server?

[cursive kestrel]

fr i had fun playing hydroflare

[lone umbra]

Did you try skill spam build?

[cursive kestrel]

gotta do some mod on those jade set first

but his F is so good

fr i just hate ice that's all

[lone umbra]

Skill spam uses thunder

[cursive kestrel]

doesn't know if it's worthy to do

[lone umbra]

I hate that sound effects ngl

[lone umbra]

Seems pretty good to me

I tried with Justina

[cursive kestrel]

yeah if ur not dealing with boss face to face

timing is a bit annoying

[lone umbra]

Heh? You need to deal with boss

[cursive kestrel]

and im never gonna equip thunderproof

[lone umbra]

There is no thynderproof required

No thunder counter too

Just F and F

[cursive kestrel]

u did mod100 on them already?

[lone umbra]

Yeah

[cursive kestrel]

i can't seem to see their dmg different properly in training

[lone umbra]

4 mod and you are good to do with that build

I did in topaz

[cursive kestrel]

im just having fun with hydroflare

begging please don't force me to play anything else

[lone umbra]

But my ping was over 200 sometimes so couldn't feel the goodness of the build

[cursive kestrel]

[lone umbra]

Using draco stride?

[cursive kestrel]

yep

[spiral kernel]

So guys hows akos overall?

[cursive kestrel]

raging flame with thunder

[lone umbra]

There is 2/2/2 weilding which allows us to do hydroflare without draco stride

[cursive kestrel]

i saw this and i decided not to deconstruct my scorching thunder build

not yet

[spiral kernel]

@cursive kestrel @lone umbra fells hows akos?

[lone umbra]

I haven't tried him yet

[spiral kernel]

What his skill? V2?

And what is ult v1 or v2?

[lone umbra]

His F is surely F2

But V idk

[spiral kernel]

I also think

From trailer

But what is v i wonder ik its aint tower fot sure

[lone umbra]

@cursive kestrel can give more details though

[spiral kernel]

And thx god for that

@cursive kestrel yo mate can u give ur mate akos info?

[cursive kestrel]

V2

his ult does a good amount of dmg too and can stunt boss like tianhai punch

tho i have no idea about new jade set and potential would be very effective but maybe good for new bosses

in training it's quite slow to boost dmg

[cursive kestrel]

I'm waiting for dark to test those new defuse jade first

[lone umbra]

[cursive kestrel]

it looks stupid ngl

especially that fart mushroom jade

[lone umbra]

That looks dumb yeah

But thunder one probably powerful

Swarm deadeye though

[cursive kestrel]

bro i'd love letting my friend tank boss and imma shooting rocket from a far

https://tenor.com/view/rocket-launch-launching-fly-nasa-gif-10035197

[lone umbra]

Yeah that swarm seems powerful

[cursive kestrel]

pistol seems pretty fun too

maybe it's time for matari pistol

[lone umbra]

With tomb raider skin

[cursive kestrel]

Fk her dagger

[lone umbra]

There is so many build variation and more than 1 meta build

Season gonna be fun ngl

If only we have more resources

[cursive kestrel]

gotta choose wisely to all in for some meta build

and the rest imma playing something dumb

[lone umbra]

Yeah

[cursive kestrel]

since I don't think I can compete yama so imma do 80% like usual

[lone umbra]

Why do you think that?

[cursive kestrel]

nah top3 is always impossible so it's not worth to put that much effort

[lone umbra]

Ye but top 10 is possible

[cursive kestrel]

this is not hard ngl, in early season

[spiral kernel]

@cursive kestrel thx mate. Bless u.

[balmy coral]

@amber terrace how's it going? anything fun in test server?

[lone umbra]

Yeah in early season it is not hard. On solos it isn't

But trios is

[gleaming idol]

its there a way to farm carved Crystal ?

[lone umbra]

Nirrti ruins

[gleaming idol]

ok thank

[cursive kestrel]

i wanna try new bosses but lazy to unlock it ahhh

[tribal bone]

are u planning to farm nirriti?

[gleaming idol]

no just asking for a friend i already have like 600 of them

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Mask leveled up!