👾┃showdown

[cursive fable]

@hidden creek ya but in 2025

the avg wow players dont respect raid achievements anymore

[cursive kestrel]

can we hide dmg that do on monsters?

[cursive fable]

the swaetiest would be top M+ title

r1 glad

r1 shuffle

like these

[hidden creek]

idc bout wow

[cursive fable]

the thing is

showdown mode is like a sidesideside chick in naraka

[lone umbra]

https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1394610879999246416
check this out. i wrote this sometime back

[hidden creek]

it is

[cursive fable]

bdo pve is the main chick in bdo

and they still sturggle to make raiding viable in bdo

for example

[hidden creek]

i don't see how it's relevant to the topic

[cursive fable]

ya speaking of bdo

the game gotta be the most grindiest game lol

i can ever imagine

[cursive kestrel]

raid boss doesn't need to have 12 players party or something

6 is enough

[hidden creek]

what we're saying is naraka showdown got the potential/material for a very good mmo
not that you can just slap a mmo ontop of its current settings and you get a good mmo

[balmy coral]

Showdown is the go to after u are done with ranked which would normally take 2 years in pvp for transition

[cursive fable]

pvp in this game (outside of cn )is kinda meme

[balmy coral]

Not really

[cursive fable]

a 2500 cr player is like the same skill as 5500 player

[balmy coral]

It's just full of sweats now especially SEA

[cursive fable]

just the guy plays like 200-300 games more than you

oh at least on NA is the same case

[hidden creek]

i mean if you got to choose everyone wants to play in CN lmfao

[cursive kestrel]

sea is bloodthirsty as hell

[hidden creek]

but it's not like we have a choice

[cursive fable]

SEA shodown is sweats too

the top is almost on CN's level

like 1-2 second slower

[hidden creek]

always have been

[balmy coral]

Grind sweats

[hidden creek]

[balmy coral]

Not skill sweats

[hidden creek]

cuz they literally copies Cn

[cursive fable]

u gotta be skilled right

for top 3 SEA pc

[balmy coral]

Also, pvp is broken so can't really say much

Ppl can write a whole essay consisting 10k or more words bout how fuc it is

[cursive kestrel]

i haven't played much rank since cyra came out

[cursive fable]

its weird

i play pvp 100% in wow

and i play pve 90% of the time in naraka

[balmy coral]

Custom me I'm so weak now

[hidden creek]

i just 3rd party and run these days

[cursive kestrel]

i sometimes got parried by bots, what do u expect about me

[hidden creek]

it's fun

[balmy coral]

LMAO

bots are goat

If I get parried with 0 frame then ye

[cursive fable]

@balmy coral best 1v1 champ

[plain spire]

Hard bot is crazy must avoid those things.

[cursive fable]

atm is

1. lyam with flying knives

[cursive kestrel]

bots get smarter very very much since i first start this game

[cursive fable]

2. temur with staff

[balmy coral]

Nah I don't play ranked anymore

I'm rusty

[cursive fable]

3. viper with dagger

4.wuchen with fistblade is prob #4

[balmy coral]

Also, I stopped ranked cos I can't adapt to fistblade and flying knives

[cursive fable]

they are easy imo

im glad they intrdouced those 2

[balmy coral]

Not for me I love katana and dual blades

[cursive fable]

lol i hate old weapons

just spend 10hrs in training

train the combos with fist/flying

super fun

those 2 are def top 2 weapons

[cursive kestrel]

flying knives too much to deal for me, fistblade is fine

[cursive fable]

in solo

flying knvies still broken i think

[balmy coral]

I dunno

[cursive fable]

well im just waiting for darkzero daddy to carry me in trios

[hidden creek]

and to think they already nerfed it like 10 times

[cursive fable]

he owns the NA ladder lol

[balmy coral]

I def lose most 1v1 vs flying knives or fistblade

[cursive fable]

flying knives

[balmy coral]

I love the neutral game

[cursive fable]

has RNG infinite combo

[cursive kestrel]

ahhh when test server will be available for global

i wanna test akos

[hidden creek]

isn't it already is

[cursive kestrel]

restrict for region

[cursive fable]

are u guys on SEA

whats your guys ping on AS if so?

is it similar to SEAs ping?

[hidden creek]

it isn't

[cursive fable]

cuz i was checkign AS showdown time

so many SEA players on there

[hidden creek]

i think you can bypass it with gearup

[cursive kestrel]

[cursive fable]

oh glad

SEA Players cant compete on NA with that ms

200+ms is not playable in naraka lol

[lone umbra]

@cursive kestrel what do you think bruh?
@hidden creek you too.. i would like ur opinion too

[hidden creek]

oh i'd love ANYTHING NEW for showdown at this point
but i gave up on giving them feedback cuz they won't listen

[spiral kernel]

I already got some lore from news page

Showdown akos story is after tarka event and it stated that he climbs the mountian with both zai and valda toughter

[cursive kestrel]

it seems fine to me, but they always have problems of telling new players what to do

that's why u see new players queuing TI ns

[lone umbra]

that is why boss difficulty selection so new player can play without the need to grind other modes

[balmy coral]

This would be like a whole rework that devs can't decide on their own but has to be approved by the executives.

[cursive kestrel]

they can just improve enigma

[lone umbra]

yeah more like rift but focused towards showdown rather than pvp aspect

they have the base ready

[balmy coral]

It's not that easy for them ngl 24E is a whole ass company

It's like how rift comes to place

[balmy coral]

Ye and I'm positive that showdown is booming in CN too

[cursive kestrel]

their new potential, new bosses, new system are getting better but it's still boring if u gotta grind in nirriti and peak back and forth

they can make new map for enigma, they can improve it too

[lone umbra]

i dont mind peak grinding but nirriti ahh 🤮

[lone umbra]

new map might come i m hoping atleast on perdoria base

[cursive kestrel]

i think it takes too long, it used to be 18 or something? but still too long

[lone umbra]

peak runs?

[cursive kestrel]

no i mean nirriti when it was yama

[lone umbra]

ye i think

but old yama was interesting

hard and can buy jades too

[balmy coral]

Thou the new Legend flux is like trash but better than nothing.

[lone umbra]

wdym?

[strong kiln]

Nope, an update for test server yet unable to connect

[balmy coral]

@lone umbra can u help me rn trios with yoto?

[lone umbra]

it is only recommended to use on rares only.

[lone umbra]

sure. what target ?

[balmy coral]

yama 10

[strong kiln]

Need a Valda?

[lone umbra]

i meant time

[balmy coral]

no target

Im first at 2 mins

but Im not gonna gamble it like that

[strong kiln]

do you need a Valda

[balmy coral]

got one xD

was supposed to get John and Quaver

[strong kiln]

Understandable, have a nice day XD

[lone umbra]

was about to say, need valda xD

[balmy coral]

he got no valda

I only need to beat 1:28

[lone umbra]

damn i thought he has valda

[balmy coral]

John has tarka damnn he offline xD

[balmy coral]

wanna try with valda?

[strong kiln]

sure

But wait

logging in

[rotund forge]

Why is it trash

It's good enough for getting first rare early

or u can use them on waste jades to get first rare then deconstruct them

To get flux jade

[strong kiln]

@balmy coral I'm in

Sorry for the delay

my pc is dying opening Naraka

[balmy coral]

u need an existing rare to be able to use it.

[rotund forge]

☠️ wtf

[balmy coral]

So, you'd still need to grind nonetheless. It doesn't make it easier it just fix what took wrong in the process.

[rotund forge]

damn i thought u can select first rares now

Copege

[viscid wraith]

[rotund forge]

But if we roll right first rare

Then roll flux on second

And it go wrong

Can we use that

To correct it

atleast this much i hope

If not then fk it

[viscid wraith]

double windfall wont take forever to get then

[lone umbra]

yyes

[fickle linden]

i'm fine with it

fair enough

[strong kiln]

Good pace but that good pace causing Neel is V

[balmy coral]

Ye

[strong kiln]

ermmm

[lone umbra]

dced

[strong kiln]

Yeah, I se

[lone umbra]

wtf

[balmy coral]

AHH

I don't think

we can bypass that ult

[twin ledge]

Who yall using

[cursive fable]

@twin ledge hi

you still pushing solos yamas?

NA seems getting more compeititve T.T

[twin ledge]

I don’t do solo placements

I find no fun in it

[cursive fable]

how about badge

[twin ledge]

I use solo Yama for practice

[cursive fable]

ya its gruelinggg

[twin ledge]

I’ve only ever gone for trios badge

Last season was first season I ever went for solo but was griefed on day before last when I took day off

So won’t try for solo again

[cursive fable]

did alot of people push during the last day?

[twin ledge]

Nah I got targeted

[cursive fable]

what does that mean

like people didnt want you to get badge?

so they played on alts?

[twin ledge]

Nah some just don’t like me but won’t go into to much

[balmy coral]

Justina, valda, yoto

[twin ledge]

And nah they use friend accounts

[twin ledge]

Try Tessa over Justina

Her infinite ult curio I did some testing and it’s better than her stronger curio

[cursive fable]

'

the trios times are insane on NA

[twin ledge]

Top like 5 in cn got 30 seconds all 5

Seems 30 is capped for what trios can do

[cursive fable]

oh you can check CN server atm?

right now is like 30s right?

thats insane

on SEA ithink 32

[twin ledge]

Fastest in cn is 30 yep

[cursive fable]

did you ran with dark ?

[twin ledge]

And yea that’s me that’s 3rd

[cursive fable]

oh i sent you a friend request

insane

solo is making myheadache

im deciding between matari/yueshan

[twin ledge]

I gave up solo since chasm Yama

[balmy coral]

1 second haha

[twin ledge]

To much resetting and rng into solo

[cursive fable]

ya

[balmy coral]

I don't have tessa curio sadly

[strong kiln]

I like how we get the first phase so consistent lmao

[twin ledge]

Viper will work

[strong kiln]

always exactly 19 seconds

[cursive fable]

bro wuchen seems free

wuchen solo

[balmy coral]

Okee

[cursive fable]

no one has the correct jade on wuchen on NA

[twin ledge]

Barely anyone in na has right jades

[cursive fable]

ya

[strong kiln]

But yeah I know how to get that mtfk on second phase now

[cursive fable]

im trying to push yueshan

its gotten compeititve T.T

[twin ledge]

I ran out of crystals for my tarka build was gonna build the other one that’s stronger for him

But game trolling is giving us temp only 3 weeks left

[cursive fable]

ye

[twin ledge]

Build for tarka changed like 3 times during it

Could be wrong but in CN those yueshan times are like 20 seconds behind first

[cursive fable]

could you check top 1 yueshan time on CN?

if possible tyty senpai

[twin ledge]

In CN the trios yueshan too was actually surprisingly using his curio

[twin ledge]

U meant cn?

[cursive fable]

yaa

[twin ledge]

Ngl I don’t remember but putting the cn server into English is a pain

[cursive fable]

oh i understand chinese

[twin ledge]

But basically every character was in 1 minute for solo

[cursive fable]

ya

matari too ?

under 2?

[twin ledge]

And trios all characters were below 40

[twin ledge]

Yea

[cursive fable]

trios

so every shitty character

just pair up with yoto+valda right?

and get below 40?

[twin ledge]

What’s crazy that I seen that CN did 34 or 35 trios with wuchen lol

[cursive fable]

lol

[strong kiln]

i dced

[twin ledge]

Yea

[cursive fable]

whos the yoto/valda player on NA lol

[twin ledge]

Characters like wuchen they stack aegis dmg

2nd place valda is who I play with

[cursive fable]

the chinese?

[twin ledge]

Yea

[cursive fable]

ya its 柔情and merllinda

as for yoto

i think dark plays yoto?

[twin ledge]

He does but for my time I did with friend roguish

[cursive fable]

ya zippy?

your zippy is #1

[twin ledge]

Prob don’t wanna say that tbh

[cursive fable]

i think for solo for ziping

people cn break 1:30

if they have the correct jade

[twin ledge]

They got 1:22

[cursive fable]

need the toxic slash too lol

solo?

insane?

[twin ledge]

Solo zippy

[cursive fable]

thats like 30s faster than NA LUL

[twin ledge]

34 I think trios

[cursive fable]

your on cn client?

[twin ledge]

No I use gear up and a extra account to into cn

[cursive fable]

i see

[twin ledge]

Yea actually not to hard to get in

[cursive fable]

i wonder whats fastest yue on CN

highest so far is someone on SEA

1:52

[twin ledge]

For trios or solo

[strong kiln]

LET'S GO

[cursive fable]

solo

[strong kiln]

SUB 1

[balmy coral]

55 secs

[twin ledge]

Think solo was like 140 something

[cursive fable]

1:40

insanee

[twin ledge]

With viper?

[balmy coral]

Ye

[strong kiln]

The boss got stunned right as her going into her mid hp bar attack

[balmy coral]

Luan got first

[cursive fable]

@twin ledge matari 1:40 too?

@balmy coral grats

[strong kiln]

and it dropped into Yoto blades

[cursive fable]

@balmy coral thats sea?

[balmy coral]

xbox SEA

[twin ledge]

Matari could be faster

[cursive fable]

@twin ledge ya i cant find a video of matari:C

[twin ledge]

Prob won’t find any for matari

[cursive fable]

ya

its 太冷门

我估计冲冲迦南。。

[twin ledge]

Only characters ur gonna find are character like ziping, tarka and the 2 meta from what I seen

[cursive fable]

竞争感觉比岳山小

[strong kiln]

People are scary

[cursive fable]

@twin ledge i feel like

no one has the correct jade for valda/yoto on NA

[twin ledge]

Only reason players are getting fast time on ziping is because u can abuse some bug where they can skip the bosses ult completely in solo

[cursive fable]

even merllindas valda isnt max stat(her jade)

[twin ledge]

If it wasn’t for that bug the times wouldn’t be below 2

[lone umbra]

i did it with 53 sec with 3 fox curio didnt test with other though

[twin ledge]

U had yoto with aegis?

[cursive fable]

@twin ledge its my first season trying to push top 3

are most people generally done after today?

[lone umbra]

ye a bit

[twin ledge]

Yea I meant to add other curio is good if yoto doesn’t have my bad

[strong kiln]

My Valda isn't max stats yet and have some wrong sub stats

[twin ledge]

Nah

[lone umbra]

as of now i got yoto with aegis although not maxed but about 36% aegis dmg

[cursive fable]

like last couple days are the push days?

when does season/rank finalized?

[strong kiln]

@lone umbra @balmy coral Imma try maxxing my Valda so if you guys want to try out sometimes later, let me know

[cursive fable]

like before maintainence?

[balmy coral]

Tuesday

[twin ledge]

They gonna catch u off guard last day to make sure u don’t have enough time to get ur spot back

[balmy coral]

Before reset on Wednesday

[cursive fable]

@twin ledge for solo or trio?

solo i think its harder right?

it takes alot of times/rng/practice to make a good time

[twin ledge]

Ye that how it happened for me it’s why I don’t even care for any placements anymore

[cursive fable]

ya its a meme how sweaty last day can be lol

[twin ledge]

I’ve been playing ranked more lately

Cause I already see them doing it again

[cursive fable]

am i useless in trio for helping others

if i only have ice surge set

[twin ledge]

I play 60 ping and it’s constantly going into 70s so not much I can do with so little time

[cursive fable]

the most usable hero would be justina right?

[twin ledge]

Nah in CN they have Justina on range in trios

[cursive fable]

lol

[twin ledge]

Solo it’s surge

[cursive fable]

ya i mean for doing trio

if i only have ice surge set

what hero would i be useful on

[twin ledge]

Surge dmg is kinda butt now

[cursive fable]

like yueshan justina?

[twin ledge]

Curios are just to op

[lone umbra]

CN justina is surge?

[cursive fable]

ye

@lone umbra i think its bow

for top 10 solo

all bow

[twin ledge]

Tbh can’t remember

[lone umbra]

yeah i think it was bow

[twin ledge]

But I know it’s range for trios

[lone umbra]

it is range for solo too

[twin ledge]

Was just in it earlier

[lone umbra]

surge cant beat bow

[twin ledge]

I don’t think they bow on solo for her

[lone umbra]

but didnt check recently

[cursive fable]

jeeze

you guys all able to check cn?

haha

[twin ledge]

It can if they are abusing bug

U can skip bosses ult completely without breaking aegis

[lone umbra]

not me i cant get in xD

[twin ledge]

U need ice chain

[lone umbra]

there is bug?

[twin ledge]

Hold up let me find clip

[cursive fable]

@twin ledge going to sleep bro

[cursive fable]

i think you could just push solos, ur insane at it

[twin ledge]

There

[cursive fable]

whats fastest tarka on solo cn?

[twin ledge]

I’m sure Justina can do it to

I haven’t tested it yet

[twin ledge]

1:02

[cursive fable]

nA is 1:05?

damn

[twin ledge]

1:04

[cursive fable]

we getting into cn level

lol

wtf

alot of tarka mains on NA

lol

[twin ledge]

Cn top 6 are faster than rest of servers

[cursive fable]

ya

are you able to check yue?

[twin ledge]

I can in a few

[cursive fable]

CN top 6 basically within a sec

lol

i mean high chance every top 3 are the same time right

like 1: 04 for all of the top 3

prob determined by the decimal place

[twin ledge]

But I do remember it was somewhere near 1:40

[twin ledge]

1 second is a lot

[cursive fable]

ye

[twin ledge]

Rest of servers won’t beat it

[cursive fable]

dude wuchen would of been free

top 1

no one has the jade

its like 1min30s slower than SEA lol

[twin ledge]

CN servers are a lot more stable

Think 1 to 3 all have 1:02

[cursive fable]

ye

u can do it!

they must have perfect curios

u speak chinese ?

[twin ledge]

Nah

[cursive fable]

oh i thought u spoke based on your name

curio too rng lol

[twin ledge]

My name is Japanese

[cursive fable]

oh discord name

ya i was gonna type chinese but nvm

i guess tarka is just fun to play in showdown

[twin ledge]

Yea

[cursive fable]

making its compeititveness almost close to CN level

lol

[twin ledge]

Only way I can play with that ult

[cursive fable]

its weird cuz

[twin ledge]

Since they decided to get rid of it in PvP

[cursive fable]

everyone has ice surge set right?

[twin ledge]

His ult now in PvP isn’t fun for me

[cursive fable]

but why arent the ice surge hero ladder that competitive?

[twin ledge]

I want old ult back

[cursive fable]

isnt those heros the most accessible for everyone?

like heros meta build for solo yama is ice surge

[twin ledge]

Surge just gets out dmg the curios this season are very poorly made

And not adjusted

Just broken asf

[cursive fable]

ya it feels like

who has the most mats

gets top 3 lol

[twin ledge]

Lost to many mats last season

Had 15k fragments before last season started

Somehow lost most of that and no crystals left

[cursive fable]

...thats alot

15 stacks

[twin ledge]

When there was only solo Yama I didn’t build anything that season

I kept what I had the season before

[cursive fable]

which season was the only solo yama?

noob here haha

[twin ledge]

Since I don’t care for solo wasn’t gonna build meta

2 seasons ago I think

[cursive fable]

i was wondering

cuz

darkzero missing a badge

[twin ledge]

Season before last

[cursive fable]

1 season he only got 1 badge

[twin ledge]

Nah he has it

[cursive fable]

it must be that season right?

[twin ledge]

He has all of them

[cursive fable]

no it shows rank 1

ya i mean

theres a season

with only 1 bdge

1 badge

2.0?

i think

[twin ledge]

Thats the season only solo

Was no trios

[cursive fable]

i seee

[twin ledge]

Yea it was season before last season

[cursive fable]

i dont think anyone on CN

can has all badge lol

too compeititve/rng within the 1sec mark

[twin ledge]

Well seems to me most of the og players from like chasm and season before quit

I didn’t see any of them

[cursive fable]

top 30 on CN

might be harder than top 3 here?

NA*

[twin ledge]

They were always on top 3

But no where to be seen

I checked everywhere just couldn’t find them

[cursive fable]

OH yummy

your on cn server?

i checked douyin, people selling TOP 100 in cn lol

[twin ledge]

Let’s just say every character has all top 500 with last stage done

[cursive fable]

must be super hard to get

jeeze

if you get the last stage

its like top 10 on NA

lol

[twin ledge]

Top 500 ziping was 2:04

[cursive fable]

solos?

[twin ledge]

Trios

[cursive fable]

jeezee...

[twin ledge]

But ngl if I don’t see improvement to next new boss im prob done

[cursive fable]

u mean cn timers?

[twin ledge]

I’m tired of chasing bosses around and have them have have attacks that can’t be stopped and just waste to much time

[cursive fable]

ya dude i have a headache

[twin ledge]

Just don’t have fun like I did during old Yama when it was actually hard

[cursive fable]

grinding solo yamas

too much resetting

lol

[twin ledge]

Now I have to just chase the boss

[cursive fable]

if possible

[twin ledge]

Guess we players are the real boss at this point

[cursive fable]

could you check matari/yueshan solo timer forme ❤️

for cn

i really need it T.T

trying to push on both

[twin ledge]

Will have to give me a little not home just at this movement

[cursive fable]

oh tyty

[twin ledge]

And tbh I’ve seen this cringe range build coming next season that’s prob gonna make me call it

[cursive fable]

ya too much jade grind

imma just farm like 2000 frag 100 crystal

1000*

and wait for inferno lol

that should be enough for a jade set

and determine which char im pushing on

[twin ledge]

Idk where devs going with showdown but im just not liking it anymore in my opinion making things way to easy

[twin ledge]

And 2k won’t be enough to max half the build lol

[cursive fable]

lol

[twin ledge]

That’s what another issue is lol

[cursive fable]

its not even ice surge set

[twin ledge]

That cn?

Means they started taking it for real then

Cause times changed again

Yea it did change

Cause 4th place was first

Wait 3rd was my bad but guess he redid it

[cursive fable]

ya

its not even ice srueg set

lol

[twin ledge]

Which character is that

[cursive fable]

the 1:37 yue

yue

[twin ledge]

Ah

[cursive fable]

lightning set

lol

[twin ledge]

Yea first 3 times are new

[cursive fable]

fastest with ice is like 1:55

shit

NA highest is 2:08

i need to play perfect lol

[twin ledge]

Nah 3rd place had surge before

[cursive fable]

no room for mistakes

ya not anymore

[twin ledge]

They must of changed

[cursive fable]

all 1:37 is non surge

[twin ledge]

Cause they did have like 1:44 or somewhere close to it

[fickle linden]

wait until last 2 days

[twin ledge]

Tbh don’t think they can wait this season

Times are already close to cap

The curios and builds are just to broken this season

So they might start earlier

[cursive fable]

ya 1:37 is the gatekeeper

no one breaking that shit

[twin ledge]

Nah they can most likely be best

U said thunder?

[cursive fable]

ya

ya

i ask this streamear

he said the dude is a gatekeeper

[twin ledge]

Then yea that can be faster by seconds

Nah it’s gonna change watch

[cursive fable]

ya on CN

alot of people buying boost tho

so 1 person can boost like 20 peoples account

esp the ice surge /range build hero

not on yueshan tho, not many people have the thunder set

[twin ledge]

There is prob more than I would think so much more players on cn

Like one of the best players will go on a 2nd account with the mats to build it

Just give it a few days it will change prob

Ima check later I gotta see the jades

Might be max time possible

If it’s the build I think

[cursive fable]

ya

[cursive kestrel]

yoooo bro fr as tabbie said u need gearup for test server

[lone umbra]

i can’t even get in after using gearup

[cursive kestrel]

why tho? gotta change server into cn first!

[lone umbra]

done that still no

[cursive kestrel]

gotta try my tiger dudeeee

[lone umbra]

his pose is also like he is pouncing

[cursive kestrel]

his defuse pretty much like tessa

not bad

[fickle linden]

LMAO

naraka crashed in nirriti's lobby

restarted game and see this

[cursive kestrel]

he's fun but he is similar to kylin like if u don't know how to play it don't play

[lone umbra]

alr i m not gonna play him

never played him in ranked or even bot mode

[cursive kestrel]

mostly bcs it's fistblade tho

[lone umbra]

fistblades is fine i can handle tht

but tiger noooo

[cursive kestrel]

his ult can stun boss as u saw in the video but u can still scratch too

trying him with hydroflare i'd say i like it

[fierce light]

Yeah they gave his PvE ult

Even though it's bigger, it looks more simple tbh. You choose your element, then you go for for Burn, Lotus, Chain Crush or Seal path. Shouldn't be a need to branch into different paths for just the stats.

I don't have access to test server, so I can't really test anything.

[balmy coral]

Ye more straightforward

[fierce light]

I was hype when I first saw UE5's capabilities, but even since it came out, it just made games bigger hardware checks.

[balmy coral]

Same ngl now for any games I can't really expect so much anymore. Last game I expect to do well with unreal 5 is the witcher 4

[fierce light]

It's like having a 2nd job for most of them. But you pay them to work instead. NGS was the last one I touched, but stopped playing cause of the egregious drop rates.

[balmy coral]

rn I'm more excited to see the new boss than any of the updates and new meta.

as long as they don't bury my kylin

[cursive kestrel]

chain crush still available and looks good imo

[fierce light]

Would be nice if there was an extraction type mission for showdown. Enemies get progressively harder for bigger rewards. Something like Enigma Domain, but instead of time gating you, it skill gates. Something like a star level in GTA, where the more you loot and kill the stronger they get.

Could have certain areas on the map give more crystals, while others give more Souljades.

[fierce light]

Can't even make use of the new potential in Ruins. 😭 Wish they added more meta progression for it since it's so separate. No word on even new rings/collections/blessings.

[cursive kestrel]

u gotta unlock everything to see nirriti in test server bro i aint gonna do that

[balmy coral]

They really need to rework the ruins cos not like we have other choice than running it.

[fierce light]

That's what the new flux does, yeah. Finally getting a pity system for rares, but it's only 3 per season, 2 if you don't get battle pass. 😕

[cursive kestrel]

@fierce light what do u think about hydroflare build? i tried it and still doing fine not sure if it's decent enough

[balmy coral]

Chain on kylin is eh-

[fierce light]

4 Fox Curio does 6.66x more Health damage per ult than the infinite ult version. If you're going for Aegis DMG though you'd want the infinite ult.

[cursive kestrel]

then don't

[fierce light]

So it's up?

[cursive kestrel]

using gearup

if i didn't use it, it's still restricted from region

im trying to unlock nirriti to see if there's new rings

[fierce light]

There were people in CN still using Scorching build on Tarka before Curios came out. I could see one working where you run:

• Thunderpull
• Thunder Counter
• Thunderproof
• Draco Stride
  #👾┃showdown message
• Defuse: Stored Lightning
• Flash Step Capacitor

[fierce light]

When you get a chance, think you could test these? I'll explain how if you do.

[lone umbra]

might try that.. though that curio doesnt have good stats

[fierce light]

Iirc though they were just using Ranged Build with Aegis DMG

[cursive kestrel]

40

[rotund forge]

But in live version

Theyll give nothing

[lone umbra]

[lone umbra]

they will give 2

[fierce light]

They definitely wouldn't give 40 for live

[cursive kestrel]

so kind

[fierce light]

2 for free, 1 from pass

[cursive kestrel]

100 random legendary jades

[calm kestrel]

Test server email.

[fierce light]

40 isn't even enough to guarantee 2 builds. 💀

• 12 for 2 rares on each Souljade.
• Up to another 12 if you roll ones you don't want.

[cursive kestrel]

💀

thanks

[fierce light]

Ah can you show the localized (english) names of the jades

[calm kestrel]

I think those are the new ones that guarantee a rare when used on an existing rare.

[cursive kestrel]

wym? where does it drop?

[fierce light]

Probably in the Narakapedia

[fierce light]

Yeah, if you're really unlucky, you could have to spend up to 24 on a single build.

[cursive kestrel]

oh wait, understand it lemme finish rock dude

for a sec

[calm kestrel]

You’d only need to spend 6 per build I thought. Or am I not understanding the new flux jades.

You pick any rare on a jade and swap that rare with a rare you need, using the new Legend Flux. There’s no luck involved because you choose what rare you want.

Unless you referencing the stat itself may or may not be maxed out

[fierce light]

Creating a rare is random, but changing a rare gives a guarantee with the Legendary Flux Jades.

[balmy coral]

It's still a trashy pity only 3 the whole season.

[balmy coral]

It's like a candy being given to us by pennywise

[tribal bone]

Fr

[cursive kestrel]

this one seems to be defuse poison charge i can't read chinese

[calm kestrel]

I’m learning Mandarin, I got you.

That’s Poison Demon Seal. Not Defuse.

[cursive kestrel]

i directly click the video tutorial of this jade

[calm kestrel]

I was just reading the translation 😅.

“Consume elephant slots and apply magic seal to yourself and attacker.”

[tribal bone]

Damn, isnt that tuff to learn ?

😭

[tribal bone]

Elephant slots ?

[calm kestrel]

Yeah. I’ve been learning for almost a year

[calm kestrel]

Bro I have no idea what that means 😭😭

[hidden creek]

means defuse

[fierce light]

4 Elephants = Defuse.

Not sure why the translation does that.

[hidden creek]

well that's the literal translation lol

[tribal bone]

Sheesh
The dedication is real

GG

[fierce light]

What about the Purple Jades? I just need the one for Thunder

[tribal bone]

Oh wtf

[cursive kestrel]

mostly dodging or something

[fierce light]

Just wanted their names, ty

I got their descriptions already

[calm kestrel]

Frost Quake is the frostbite counter.

That’s the one I’m most curious about.

[calm kestrel]

Can I build it as frequent as divine thunder.

[hidden creek]

四象 (shixiang) is a concept in chinese ancient philosophy
象 in this context doesn't means elephants but 象 is also the word for elephant

that's why the translation

[cursive kestrel]

doesn't look like there's some new rings in nirriti

[lone umbra]

Bring back old nirriti/ yama

[cursive kestrel]

i think new anima rings will probably come with zai instead

[lone umbra]

I am looking forward for that zai

[calm kestrel]

End or mid season.

[lone umbra]

It would be mid season

Before their dev talk in December

[cursive kestrel]

so we gotta grind nirriti with no new rings first?

[lone umbra]

Bruh we gotta grind Nirriti

[cursive kestrel]

💔

[lone umbra]

It is so boring and alone in solo.. trios i don't mind the grind

[cursive kestrel]

i don't do solo nirriti

my luck alone never give me good drops

[fickle linden]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-cat-kitty-giggle-chuckle-gif-11715112707478851251

[lone umbra]

Also apply yin yang bonus in there as well

[cursive kestrel]

but we have new monster in nirriti i got to see that bell head dude

[lone umbra]

I avoid that but sometimes there's no queue

[fickle linden]

atleast it's fast in solos

don't gotta wait people choosing rings and stuff

two shotting bosses with justina

hopefully akos is as op at the start of new season lol

[lone umbra]

That is there but I can't run more than 2-3 run solo

[fickle linden]

getting afker in nirritis might be the worst thing in naraka

atleast in snd is over in 1min

[fierce light]

They even nerfed Justina Ult, so won't be able to melt bosses as fast.

[lone umbra]

But the drops

[lone umbra]

Akos maybe able to do just that

[fickle linden]

first weeks of new season gonna be

all new potentials and jades, but nowhere to use them

can't even run doom

[lone umbra]

For 2 weeks yeah

Can't do anything other than nirriti

[fierce light]

Before we used to have to try to grind the new mission to get the new jades, but now all the Seasonal Challenges and leveling up can be done efficiently in Nirriti's Ruins, so we're kinda forced to do that instead.

[fickle linden]

don't you get all new jades from BP chests? i got few of those in inventory but haven't ever opened them

or atleast some new jades from them

[tribal bone]

2 weeks of nirriti =

[cursive kestrel]

nothing new in nirriti, only new monsters and bosses

[fickle linden]

imagine they dont fix nirriti for consoles

[fierce light]

Not guaranteed to be the new ones.

[fickle linden]

and its long season so gonna run it alot

[fierce light]

Should be able to get that achievement to extreme now that needed a certain number of Legendaries.

[tribal bone]

Dont they have like a pre defined set of jade in them ?

[fickle linden]

no idea, i've never opened them

[tribal bone]

If its from this season
Itll have jades from this season

[fickle linden]

i just like to collect them to my inventory

lol

[fierce light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jlbgyh4Ep-g&feature=youtu.be

[tribal bone]

Im opposite
I open them asap

😭

[hidden creek]

[balmy coral]

so basically u step on a weed ahh movement

[cursive kestrel]

idk more like fart

[balmy coral]

Yaa lmao if u have a kylin use the jade of heng sword it gets higher

[cursive kestrel]

u gotta choose wisely to use

like dark said

[balmy coral]

You'd likely use this end-season when curio dedicated builds are up again

[fickle linden]

depends how many there are in showdown pass

[cursive kestrel]

pretty much the same amount of flux jade

[fickle linden]

maybe they are generous and put them for every 5 levels like those nirriti card refresh stones

[cursive kestrel]

it can also be used like flux jade but i don't think anyone would do that

[tribal bone]

Welp so these are rare like flux jade ?

What's the point of new jade, if its gonna be same as flux

💀

[hidden creek]

it's not the same

[fickle linden]

it's not same as flux. you can choose the rare you want

[tribal bone]

How do they differ ?

[tribal bone]

WHAT

🔥

Now that's W

[cursive kestrel]

if u already have rare and wanna change it

[hidden creek]

if you use it on a rare you got to choose what the outcome rare gonna be

[tribal bone]

What if i need another red on same jade ?

[fierce light]

It's an upgrade, but now it'll only be used for fixing a bad rare.

[balmy coral]

If an attribute is already rare then > u can pick another rare to turn it into

If an attribute is normal > works as flux

[hidden creek]

this
it's better, but not enough

[fierce light]

Going to have to grind to get that 2nd rare.

[balmy coral]

Ya

better use it for curio dedicated builds I guess.

[fickle linden]

cya in 5 months then

[balmy coral]

but next season is longer (?) hopefully no?

[fickle linden]

[balmy coral]

nah fuc early builds.

I'd use my current builds and just make a build when I like one

[fickle linden]

no need to build anything new until they open peak

[balmy coral]

My kylin could flush it

[cursive kestrel]

would love to try practicing new bosses

[fickle linden]

i'll want the best possible build for peak when it opens

got 100+ gold keys rn

gonna have 200 by the time it opens

gonna run it aloot next season

[balmy coral]

I got like 30

but my frags will go back to 1k again

so nirriti it is

[fickle linden]

they should do snd next season but instead of it dropping meta jades it should drop extra crystals for 2 weeks

[cursive kestrel]

I don't think we need to make new build

[north lynx]

You should only use the new legend flux when searching for a specfic rare, not when you build needs multiples. Like if searching for mod or windfall using it to avoid scorching is probably a misuse

But if you need scorching or windfall or mod only

It's perfect

I also would only use it on a 2nd rare slot

[balmy coral]

Yuup

u only get 3

[cursive kestrel]

New defuse jades gameplay look dumb

[north lynx]

Allot of gamers have been asking for defuse meta back

They say it's more skillful

I don't really agree tbh

But it is more skillful than current 1 shot

[hollow light]

Oh wow, Akos is getting some feet action. lucky

[wind light]

omg

i have to grind

new souljade again

f

[balmy coral]

I posted that too

he looks happy

I wanna switch

[fierce light]

Wish he was facing the other way

[hollow light]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-punch-ground-punching-ground-it-shouldve-been-me-it-shouldve-been-me-not-him-gif-18069003738146878767

[cursive kestrel]

I like how akos phantom dodging could defuse

[balmy coral]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-jumping-cat-excited-excited-dance-gif-14550165246591709940

[fickle linden]

don't get too carried away by feet discussion people in #🧨┃rift-traversal just got told off

[fierce light]

Why were they talking about it??

[north lynx]

Showdown chat was the last bastion away from the degenerative naraka people

[fickle linden]

idk i just saw the end drama

[balmy coral]

becos their feet is low quality

[north lynx]

And here we go, feet posting again

[plush grail]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[north lynx]

[hidden creek]

helikopter helikopter

[fierce light]

Omg

[plush grail]

New season stuff looks pretty fun

[fierce light]

The no cooldown is so broken for that

[plush grail]

I cannot wait

[fickle linden]

looks cool asf

[hidden creek]

[fierce light]

So the brand lasts at least 10s

It doesn't seem to generate much Thundershock though, that's disappointing.

I wonder, since they made you able to choose your element, did they add an accumulation bonus for Thunder? Also wonder if they made it equal for Poison and Ice.

I got a lot of things to test, that's for sure.

[plush grail]

https://tenor.com/view/taking-notes-noting-listening-writing-write-that-down-gif-1206669466397048571

[plush grail]

My guess is though Nirriti will still be life probably

[plush grail]

Huge we like those

[wind light]

thát what wee need

i dont need scroching anymore

200% moderation is too much

[plush grail]

I feel that

I kept rolling Moderation got it 7 times on the same jade

I gave up once Scorching rolled

I am convinced getting the last bit of windfalls is just next to chance 0.01%

[fickle linden]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-idk-man-skill-issue-idk-man-seems-like-a-gif-24725965

[plush grail]

https://tenor.com/view/kushima-kamome-wink-point-pointing-gif-737522152436870924

[gentle kraken]

guys

help me push with something?

i am shadow lvl 87 but too week

weak$$$

[fierce light]

Getting to Lv. 100 is the first priority.

Ruins does it easily, or you can just run Tempered Inferno Normal.

[plush grail]

make sure to also pop XP boosters for showdown

makes it feel more smooth

[dusty wharf]

aiyooooo

[dusty wharf]

shadow lvl ?

or showdown lvl

[gentle kraken]

that one

[fierce light]

This your last week to do so before it resets.

Your starting level next season will be based on the level you reached this season.

[fickle linden]

oh didnt know that

[balmy coral]

On my 10th scorching on my thunder counter

[fickle linden]

just like you start at lvl 20 or something minor?

[strong kiln]

Welp

according to the new trailer, it seems deadeyes are dodge focus

[rotund forge]

most stupid discussion

[cursive kestrel]

yep u gotta lv up againnn

[rotund forge]

And someone got offended by it

[balmy coral]

Btw been meaning to ask bout the level system. Is it still the same?

[gentle kraken]

is the season gonna reset?

does the lev resets too?

[dusty wharf]

who is tht someone

[cursive kestrel]

possibly some lvl carry to new season?

[rotund forge]

Idk I blocked him

[rotund forge]

But that guy has tendency to start argument with everyone

Just ignore his ass

Talking with him will give u brain dmg

[wind light]

who

[rotund forge]

Just find out in the rift channel

I don't remember his name

[cursive kestrel]

what was that

[rotund forge]

Tianhai buff?

[hidden creek]

enter deadeye mode
horizontal charge
wait 5 days
ig

[plush grail]

Swarm love next update I cannot wait to see the builds for it

[cursive kestrel]

i charged and fired then it went back to charge again

[balmy coral]

LMFAO

[cursive kestrel]

gotta wait 5 days lol

[rotund forge]

@tribal bone tf weren't we 19

[fierce light]

You don't lose your charge while dodging I saw somewhere.

[lone umbra]

Swarm turning into Rocket launcher in deadeye

[rotund forge]

Is draco stride needed for new season

[dusty wharf]

bro tf is dis behaviour

[hollow escarp]

showdown 4.0 look crazy

[dusty wharf]

it's gonna be crazy

might see sub 30 secs run for para 20 also

never know

[cursive kestrel]

akos also has charge martial focus

[hollow escarp]

i see the old fire tree

[fierce light]

Yeah fire having a whole tree dedicated to it and they buffed Blazing Flame, I think it's going to be quite strong again.

I guess enough people complained about having to keep switching builds.

[hollow escarp]

so glad i still keep them old jades

[lone umbra]

Seems old builds are balance to new ones

[fierce light]

Needed is a strong word, but it's pretty much core for any Hydroflare build aside from on Valda.

[lone umbra]

Lotus seems buffed too

Pretty much viable now

[fierce light]

Damn wish I could go in test server, so I wouldn't have to spend the first week testing so much.

And we thought this season had a lot of viable builds.

[cursive kestrel]

i tried copper ward build and it's pretty fine with akos

[lone umbra]

The new thunder build let us spam skill without cd

[cursive kestrel]

he can dash a lot

[fierce light]

I just want Poison to be viable outside of stat boosting. 😭

[lone umbra]

I saw some Poison swarm wuchen

[fierce light]

Is there something in the potential tree that boosts accumulation?
Thunder has nothing for now to boost it, aside from maybe Solidification.

[lone umbra]

Yeah in chain crush tree it is 40% boost

[fierce light]

Can't do any Martial Skills on Ranged unless they started counting Deadeye attacks.

Ah so they gave it the lowest amount, but Thunder Seal probably does a decent amount.

[strong kiln]

Yeah, but instead of charging again after dodge, you can hold your charge. Such wow

[fierce light]

Did you say Moba is for kids lol? They'd struggle with most of them as they will barely bother to learn how to build items.

[plush grail]

saying Moba is for kids is crazy man xD

[strong kiln]

It seems the test server is only available for CN right now?

Weird

[north lynx]

Grown adults can't play mobas

Idr the last time I've seen any kid play one

Br is like dependent on the gamestyle, fortnite yeah, but like apex and other shooter brs is a bit more adult taylored

[plush grail]

The showdown test server stuff is normally on CN server only from what i remember of

[north lynx]

Gacha being for kids is straight up illegal

[strong kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simspsons-abe-simpson-turn-to-dust-shocked-gif-16991408

[fierce light]

Yeah 1-100.

[fierce light]

Yes, based on where you were last season.

[fierce light]

Wish we got that EU legislation pushed here in the states.

[strong kiln]

From the trailer, it seems Swarm will not be as good as piston (watch as this aged horrible)

[cursive kestrel]

FOR FUN

[fierce light]

Wonder if they'll add jades mid-season again.

So far not seeing anything that'll change the dedicated builds for Curios.

[rotund forge]

that was some lucky shit bruh

[tribal bone]

we were 17

[dusty wharf]

peak ?

[tribal bone]

im past 600 fatigue

[dusty wharf]

dawg

[north lynx]

There's allot of lawsuits surrounding it that usually end in large settlements

[dusty wharf]

u did peak below 600 ?

[tribal bone]

yea first 600 was peak

[north lynx]

You are supposed to

[tribal bone]

was helping my irl friend

[dusty wharf]

forgot me ❤️

[tribal bone]

and a person from #🐲┃showdown-lfg

[tribal bone]

i always ping people

[fierce light]

Crystal amount doesn't appear to be affected by your Rewards %, so going for more Fragments usually best for first 600 Fatigue.

[tribal bone]

u all ignore it

😔

crazy

ngl i always ping u, ace and hades

[dusty wharf]

I came man

but ur party was full

[rotund forge]

i did tell no showdown until new season

[tribal bone]

dawg, i was inviting u for past 5mins. u were afk
which is why i looked for a random

😐

[tribal bone]

dawg why are u not farming frags for new builds?

[tribal bone]

force @rotund forge to play

[rotund forge]

I let my luck do the job

[tribal bone]

damn

[rotund forge]

the time he come is when I go to dinner

And when I come he go to sleep

[tribal bone]

https://tenor.com/view/what-nani-marmot-squirrel-turn-around-gif-15557594

[rotund forge]

[river stratus]

180 days season, most likely yes

[west crater]

Guys, can anyone who knows answer a question for me? Even though I've been playing Showdown for a long time, some information goes unnoticed. What's the relationship between elemental points (weilding) and elemental meters? For example, when I use 6 jades with Ice-weilding, I need to use two of Justina's skills to accumulate my Frostbite and activate my elemental surge. However, when I use 5 jades with Ice-wielding and 1 with Poison-wielding, I only need to use one skill. Can anyone explain why?

[fickle linden]

ngl akos with dual pistols kinda cool..

[calm kestrel]

I need that swarm for my monk. Staff is garbo.

[calm kestrel]

@fierce light did you explain on your Showdown Guide?

[dusty wharf]

when tf u coming

[dusty wharf]

good question

[cursive fable]

@fierce light lol when i thought about moba

def not dota2

dota2 is like hella tryhard game

@fierce light hi dark

was this damage distrtibution includedwith the new cuiro(wordless sutra)?

[calm kestrel]

Insanely toxic moba

[fierce light]

Your Wielding value increases your resistance for the corresponding accumulation type.

• Ice-Wielding = Frostbite
• Thunder-Wielding = Thundershock
• Poison-Wielding = Toxin

Depths Blast makes your Ice Blasts apply Frostbite to yourself. The more Wielding you have, the more resistant you are to it. Successive Ice Blast makes your Ice Blasts activate 3 times in a row.

• 6 Ice-Wielding = ~4-5 Ice Blasts to freeze yourself.
• 0-5 Ice-Wielding = 1-3 Ice Blasts to freeze yourself.

[fierce light]

Yes, without Wordless Sutra, it becomes about 52% of your base dmg.

[dusty wharf]

@rotund forge u coming ?

[cursive fable]

@fierce light thats insane tyty

do you know best stat for matari?

[rotund forge]

Nah bro I'm eating it'll take 20 min more

[cursive fable]

i wanna push on matari(seems fun)

like im floating in air 100% of the time lol

like best stat for matari on curio

[calm kestrel]

Want to drop this template 👀?