👾┃showdown

[hidden creek]

so many flaws, so many issues, so many questionable decisions

the game got a superb base settings for both pvp and pve

yet wtf are they even doing

[subtle bramble]

releasing skins and new unfinished modes i guess

[dusty wharf]

ngl they are definitely tweaking

[hidden creek]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-facepalm-raxalxshivar-anano-ananofacepalm-gif-10834657026215408264

[dusty wharf]

like I am

[subtle bramble]

the game aspect of the game is being forgotten which is... yikes

everything is just cosmetics

and i say that as someone that likes the cosmetics

[hidden creek]

i read this in david attenborough voice because the devs are literally bonobos

[lone umbra]

Exactly.. the game has insanely good mechanics but executives don't know how to execute them properly 😔

[fickle linden]

anniversary boosted their player numbers, we gotta wait a few months

once numbers are halved again they'll do another Q&A with chinese players

well maybe just one more month and they are back to pre-anniversary numbers

[tribal bone]

https://tenor.com/view/knife-cat-cat-knife-cat-knife-cat-angry-gif-9404759922388476738

me deciding if i should keep playing or uninstall

[fickle linden]

nice 👍

[tribal bone]

My curio in nutshell

I get a good curio
Then get bad Awakening

I get a bad curio
And then get the correct Awakening

[cursive fable]

range set doesnt feel that expensive

[fierce light]

Tbh don't think ranged cares about any of the Yin Attributes. Just want that Awakening.

[brave spade]

Do we know what heros will be added to showdown next?

[cursive fable]

@fierce light i should of worked on tessa set....

top 3 range feels much easier....

not too many ppl built range set still

[fierce light]

Yeah, Temulch is probably a free top 3 for a lot of servers

[cursive fable]

ya

temluch/tessa basically the only 2 ranged hero?

like for solo yama

[sullen pawn]

why isnt 5ice+1poison meta anymore?

what changed to make 6 ice better again

[heavy gulch]

Lf doom speedrun NA

[north lynx]

Technically justina is better than both as ranged

[bold ice]

some guy did 1:31 on paragon 10 with justina 6x ice

[hidden creek]

on sea current no1 justina is bow

1:22

[bold ice]

yikers

i dont even know how this guy did it

[cursive fable]

i should have just worked on range set

lolll

def need some frag/stone saved up fk

[bold ice]

yeah no point in wasting them now

[hidden creek]

huanyue is so heavily mech gambling though

[bold ice]

maybe, but the half hp phase 2 move sucks

cant proc chain crush

[fierce light]

Yeah Musket requires too many headshots to be viable, while Valda and Justina have strong melee builds.

[limpid pecan]

wdym mech gambling

[twin ledge]

Yea in cn was like 1:10 I can’t remember

Prob will go check again tonight

@fierce light what was the Justina solo again I think I showed u but can’t remember if it was Justina

[fierce light]

Can't remember

[twin ledge]

I know it was fast asf tho and was range build

[north lynx]

Probably mechanics gambling

[gaunt meadow]

Can anyone help me for a wuchen build

[cursive fable]

@twin ledge its possible to download/access cn server?

[north lynx]

Yeah

Gear up gives you a way

Just select cn in the server list and then you can join

[cursive fable]

oh the cn server in our client

has leaderboard for both steam cn+netease cn?

i think both cn client are merged into 1 single leaderboard?

[north lynx]

It does yeah

[cursive fable]

i know star skins for the two cn client are different quantity and distributed seperartely

[north lynx]

Steam, epic, and netease client are all 1 leaderboard

Microsoft gamepass pc and Xbox share their leaderboards

Then ps5 has their own

This is true even in cn

The difference is cn has its own game instance, when you log into cn through a VPN it's like you are starting a new game

[twin ledge]

There is a certain way to get in it

[twin ledge]

U don’t need a to use vpn

Just gear up and a new account will do

Oh my bad

I actually didn’t read what u said before nvm

[fierce light]

I'd say wait for now or go for one of the recommended builds in-game. We're on the cusp of a new season though so the jades that could work for him now might be nerfed/replaced next patch.

[cursive fable]

@fierce light

i might just push yueshan

doing way better than my zping time

[fierce light]

Yeah not being able to defuse many attacks hurts for her

[cursive fable]

ya

zipign fastest its like 2min too

my ziping time is 4min loll

charged attack 9% useless for yueshan?

[fierce light]

Not useless, as outside of his Ult you want to spam Charged Attacks, but Uncharged DMG is better for inside the Ult.

[cursive fable]

ya i think uncharge damage is prob better

like during yueshan ult, do i just f , left click uncharge?

[fierce light]

With Sutra,
Skill → Charged Vertical repeat.

[cursive fable]

what would be the 4th best attribute for yueshan?

the 3 best one are pretty obious

[twin ledge]

U can make it faster by putting toxic chain and ice chain

U need her curio tho

Can replace ice spike for toxic chain

[cursive fable]

whats the fastest on cn?

[twin ledge]

All ice essence and tho

1:22

[cursive fable]

wtf

yueshan solo?

[twin ledge]

Oh ziping

[fierce light]

On Curio?

[cursive fable]

thats insaneee

@fierce light ya

1:22 on ziping is still crazy

on NA no one can break in 2min yet

[twin ledge]

Ngl didn’t check yueshan but I think was like 140 or 210

[fierce light]

Attack, DMG to Bosses, Weapon DMG Bonus and Skill DMG Bonus for Yueshan

[cursive fable]

2:10?

[fierce light]

All his Attacks in his Ultimate are considered Weapon and Skill

[cursive fable]

@fierce light no need for 30% ele acc rate?

[twin ledge]

Idk I don’t care at all for yueshan I only checked characters that I use

[cursive fable]

@fierce light im missing a ton of damage right?

[twin ledge]

Yueshan u want that

[cursive fable]

the 24% weapon dmg bonus is hugee

[fierce light]

His rotation doesn't change from Torrent Flow → Skill outside of Ultimate

[cursive fable]

oh weird

[fierce light]

At 6 Ice-Wielding

[cursive fable]

i dont need 30% acc rate?

i thought its needed for every hero

T.T timer is so rng based...

need good rng on sutra

[fierce light]

Damn my controller is getting stick drift cause my nephew dropped it.

Guess ima try out a Hall Effect controller.

[cursive fable]

@fierce light i checked the top 10 yueshan on SEA server

SEA(the most compeittive server out of the 4)

all of them had 30% elemental accumlatin rate on curio

@fierce light nooo, need a new controller

season ending next week!

[fierce light]

It's still good for other heroes. But not many options for Yueshan to improve his rotation for Ice Blasts

[cursive fable]

they could improve their timer more?

[fierce light]

Polesword being as clunky as it is.

[cursive fable]

liek the top 10 yueshan palyers

if they change the elemental 30% to like weapon dmg 24%?

[fierce light]

Yeah

[cursive fable]

thats insane

@fierce light for yin curio

liek the stats/quality doesnt even matter

as long as the correct awakening, and 7.5 rage per dmg taken

other states can be blue/purple/orange (Doesnt matter)

so i should save all my curio fragments for yang?

ya i just try playign on eu

250 ms feels impossible to play lol

its like -40% damage for me (feels like it)

[fierce light]

Yeah pretty much.

[cursive fable]

ya i made a rookie mistake..

spending too much fragments on yin curio...

[fierce light]

Majority of Yin Attributes are defensive in nature, so won't help you get faster times.

Valda would want Health mainly.

[north lynx]

Lol wait which one are u

[cursive fable]

3

i have much room to improve

[north lynx]

You can do it

[cursive fable]

@north lynx i wish i had saved frag/stones for range build

seems freee

and urr right about justian too

top 10 on cn all bow build over surge build

[north lynx]

I just all inned valda once I found out she's absurd

I'm still not done now that copper ward was discovered to be better

[cursive fable]

its my first time trying to push this rank

its kinda hard to push on multiple heros right?

[north lynx]

Ye kinda

[cursive fable]

like we should just focus one, especially for solos

ya

[north lynx]

Unless the builds are the same

Like a bow user has 3 options

[fierce light]

Likely because of how long boss flies

[cursive fable]

cuz i realized yueshan dont want 30% elemental curio acc rate

on the curio

which every other hero wants

@north lynx are u still allin wuchening?

alling wuchen

[north lynx]

Nah lol

I just have a side build for wu

[cursive fable]

ya wu's time takes too long

[north lynx]

There's no way I get a placement

I'm 2nd rn but with some God awful time

[cursive fable]

do you think the top 1 time will change alot by like next sunday?

[north lynx]

Maybe

[cursive fable]

i mean , most of these top 3 players have their curio perfected already

[fierce light]

I made this chart some time back, but I think it still pretty much applies. Instead of Lotus Impacts though, the extra 5% accumulation from Element Surge usually makes up for it.

[cursive fable]

@north lynx maybe not for sea server right?

NA def got more room to improve on timing

[north lynx]

Yeah

My valda is 40 secs rn

Needs work

[cursive fable]

ya @north lynx i feel like its kinda hard for the top sea players to improve by alot

like even if its next week

their yoto is 42sec,

40s?

highest vald solo on sea is 48s

i feel like trio hard to push

do you run with dark?

[north lynx]

Sometimes, mine with dark was 43

[cursive kestrel]

whyyy akos best boi

[lone umbra]

nah he is annoying

[viscid wraith]

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Wallace leveled up!

[cursive kestrel]

better than inor imo

[rotund forge]

atleast he don't run away like rat bruh

I hate the rat worse just keep endless running

[lone umbra]

in a way i hate most of male heroes... annoying F.. hadi/akos/kylin they run and inor also annoying

[balmy coral]

I prefer to fight inor since his F won't let me keep so much distance from him.

unless he ults I just give up

[cursive kestrel]

they made male characters harder to play than female ones

why

[balmy coral]

umm no not really they're just straight boring

Like kylin u just slash and u can't do actual combos when he ults.

[cursive kestrel]

i like their design but male heroes requires more skills to play than female

[balmy coral]

meanwhile viper, u get to silence and do 100-0 anybody

[lone umbra]

like his slashes aren't enough

[cursive kestrel]

none of them are easy even wuchen or kylin

[balmy coral]

Ye, there's just no fun

[lone umbra]

on my ping it is nearly impossible to dodge akos jumps and kylin slashes

[balmy coral]

my friend ded I can't do custom

this is dead in SEA but ppl in NA/EU is not wtf

[cursive kestrel]

back when people still play casual..

[lone umbra]

yeh they make male heroes braindead... you ult you kil...l no combo or anything just button smash and you win

[cursive kestrel]

i stopped playing grc because two vietnamese party queuing together to bully people with monk comp

[lone umbra]

I never played that mode

[balmy coral]

nice stats can't wait to build it

[cursive kestrel]

i played that in first week and enough, this is shit

worst than capture spirit well

[lone umbra]

capturn spirit well is fun

[cursive kestrel]

yass I played like 1400+ matches even more than rank

[cursive kestrel]

im happy i got windfall on ths jade

[balmy coral]

Ye

Doom anyone?

[lone umbra]

ur doom pending?

[balmy coral]

Ye I have not done it yet

can't get any crystals from it so I have 0 interest

[cursive kestrel]

me with 6000+ showdown...

[balmy coral]

and current doom is annoying

requires to move too much

[lone umbra]

[lone umbra]

i dont consume fatigue on it at all

[balmy coral]

Ye \

same

[fickle linden]

i didnt for the first week of inferno, but once i got decent curios im using fatigue on everything again

i dont think im able to burn all 2400 fatigue this week anyway, already bored to death and im only sitting around 1200 fatigue

[balmy coral]

no point in burning all fatigue unless u are running for yama

[lone umbra]

i can play and do dailes

[balmy coral]

Okee

[fickle linden]

yeh i have no need to craft curios anymore so 0 motivation

same as rift, i got all relics so 0 motivation to play it

[cursive kestrel]

I haven't played rank for 2 seasons

[fickle linden]

they need to put better rewards for every gamemode, idgaf about titles or badges

[balmy coral]

I was 4900 last season then stopped

have not played solos this season

[fickle linden]

asura rank in pvp should give like 30 chests atleast maybe id have motivation to play pvp

permanent avatar border or something

season rewards are sucha joke in naraka

[cursive kestrel]

I dropped to platinum for not playing rank for 2 seasons

they require too much time for climbing rank, im too lazy

[fickle linden]

too much time and it doesnt feel rewarding

playerbase so small cant even flex on people

no one watches other peoples badges anyway

[cursive kestrel]

I only care about avenging people who stickered me

[fickle linden]

funniest thing is that like 30% of time climbing you spend in looking for games

and you can only find ranked games during certain hours

there is talk about russian server/node, that would make eu ques even longer if russians leave eu server

[balmy coral]

I miss when old times when customs here happen everyday

[lone umbra]

not the case in SEA though but yeah EU/NA is

[balmy coral]

They're not even getting a node of their own.

That's not happening

[fickle linden]

let me dream

russian node next to finnish border so i get good ping

[lone umbra]

i played every season to reach 5k for avatar then i take my leave

[balmy coral]

If I can play duos again I might rank cos still a month left

[cursive kestrel]

i think sea, even faster to get a lobby, either u meet very skilled people or you meet newbies

nothing in between

[balmy coral]

SEA lobby is aight

majorities know their shit thats why it's fun

I just hate weapon swappers they're eveerywhere

[cursive kestrel]

i can't even do a grapple combo properly with my fps and ping weapon swap too

i parry with gambling

[balmy coral]

[cursive kestrel]

if u got killed by me then u need to improve urself

[lone umbra]

[lone umbra]

what ur fps and ping?

[cursive kestrel]

40-80 with 50-60ms

[lone umbra]

ping is fine though

[cursive kestrel]

worst in actual fight

[balmy coral]

60 ms is fine anything higher is nah uh

[lone umbra]

me play at 85-95 ms imagine the parry gamble

[balmy coral]

I don't think 24E would even bother with this atp it's been years

[cursive fable]

@balmy coral i tried playing showdown earlier at 250 ms

loll

basically impossible to play

[cursive kestrel]

the problem is you catching the blue and parry, the character animation delay so much even with 50-60ms yeah my fps is the real issue

[north lynx]

wow so global servers will get annoyed again?!?!

amazing

[north lynx]

You can still do good on this if you really wanted it

[cursive kestrel]

i sometimes miss one thunder surge on kylin but not with the 4 thunder

[lone umbra]

i always miss 4 thunder

[cursive kestrel]

if there's several people in my screen, my fps freezeeeee

[north lynx]

same here

[fickle linden]

it would be cool for pvp esports game to be fair to all players

[cursive kestrel]

3-4 is enough, more than that i don't see shit

[north lynx]

I just played golden roc on like sub 30 fps lol

had to stop cause it stopped being fun lol

but I was still top of the board

[lone umbra]

upgrade the pc

[cursive kestrel]

capture used to have more people but in the past few months, they just created custom room to play

[north lynx]

that it would

NA has a dedicated wells community, itll never die over here

40-60 people all quing at the same times for it

[cursive kestrel]

easiest but cost quite a lot with me having debts

[cursive kestrel]

try my noob valda with this 1060ti i did 1.40 last night, she's op bro

[north lynx]

With naraka you get into the trap of like "if Im gonna upgrade, its gotta be the best possible."

[lone umbra]

woa

[lone umbra]

carry me top 10

[cursive kestrel]

i mean solo

[lone umbra]

i got trash curio of her

[cursive kestrel]

i rolled boss rng a lot

till i got one that release blue first

[lone umbra]

i just used yoto

phase 1 go ez

and phase 2 i cant break her aegis before ult so i need to wait for it go get over

[cursive kestrel]

i tried several times with yoto too, saved ult when boss on the ceiling

[cursive fable]

even showdown feels like fps/ms reliant

[north lynx]

yeah

[cursive kestrel]

6666

💀

✝️

[north lynx]

ranked demon

[crimson cave]

i absolutely hate how this game is so much rng dependant in yama

aside from the fact that boss mechanics make zero sense

[crimson cave]

i struggle with phase 1 on paragon 10, if i make it to p2 its usually easy and quick there

but competing for top can make one go mental

so much rng

esp when you are bowing 😭

[balmy coral]

knives is a stupiud weaoin

[tribal bone]

faxts

[balmy coral]

@lone umbra

[tribal bone]

💀

damn

[lone umbra]

wtf

[tribal bone]

never thought mod can be like this

[lone umbra]

why imbue now bro

[balmy coral]

remind me not to peek on other ppl's jades

[crimson cave]

you can always look at mines

they suck

[crimson cave]

i love knives tf you mean stupid

[tribal bone]

just asking, but if i move mod from jade two to jade one
wont there be three non rare on my jade two with windfall?

[lone umbra]

i m using yoto phase 1 is basically no attack by boss just straight to p2

[tribal bone]

wont that windfall boost three nonrare instead of two?

[crimson cave]

we need double bow and yoto and try trios

[lone umbra]

that doesnt work too

[crimson cave]

im so unstoppable when i dont have to tank

i think bow has the biggest damage output when boss lets you free cast

[lone umbra]

i am able to get boss aegis at 35% but her ult cant break that aegis

[lone umbra]

nah yota and valda exist

valda has literally highest dmg output

and it applies direct to health

[crimson cave]

whats valda fastest time rn?

[lone umbra]

for trios it is 33 sec and solo i think 44 sec something

[crimson cave]

damn that leet, bow solo is around 1.20 atm

but bow solo is harder since you are not tanky at all

[tribal bone]

FACTS

[crimson cave]

i for now manage to update my times to keep myself in top 10 for tessa and temulch in solo

but i get burned out in like 15 of trying to solo

i wish the game had proper raids

they could introduce like proper tank builds for that...

[lone umbra]

wym?

[crimson cave]

like tanks that meed to tank (hold agro, position boss away from group while doing less damage and being better o survivability + their skills be more defensive like maybe shayol)

but i guess i see everything as an rpg

[cursive kestrel]

if i had no ult when she's on ceiling, i'll be dead

[fickle linden]

yeah i was disappointed when i started showdown, i thought trio team would have 1 tank, 1 dps and 1 healer

but it's just 3 dps

[tribal bone]

well it aint rpg game

the character that cant deal much damage is ignored

and no one bothers to build it

[cursive kestrel]

tbh just let me know who holds boss agro

that would be really helpful

[tribal bone]

if there is someone using ranged build

its usually them

[cursive kestrel]

crossbow yoto

[tribal bone]

every time i use bow build

[lone umbra]

hmm how though?

[tribal bone]

all boss are after me

[tribal bone]

from experience

yama , TI everywhere

if im using bow, im always targeted

[cursive kestrel]

if the highest dps hold agro then maybe

[tribal bone]

well this happens once i build the deadeye rate to max

before that they ignore me

[cursive kestrel]

make some tiny text showing who holds boss agro would be really helpful

[lone umbra]

specially in case of fire dude

[cursive kestrel]

when ur teammates defuse all 3 but he blue to nowhere? lol

in case of void dude diving underground in TI

[twin ledge]

old yama was pretty much this

when one player does dps while kurumi heals and buffs and the other pretty much distracted boss

[tribal bone]

@north lynx wanna play DITD now?

[twin ledge]

when thunder was meta

well ice did over take it for the last stage tho

fun times

[north lynx]

I'm capped now unfortunately

[tribal bone]

oh cool cool

dont type "im capped now"

coz i thought its "im clapped now"

💀

say you're out of fatigue

[north lynx]

I'm capped on fatigue

[normal galleon]

are there souljades that I cant get anymore?

someone said there should be 79

[fickle linden]

yes

[normal galleon]

thats

cringe

how do you get those badges

you have to be top 3 with a character clearing pagaron 10?

[fickle linden]

i mean it reads right there in the picture

[normal galleon]

yeah but there are lots of leaderboards thats why I ASK

sry caps

like only counts up to 3rd place ?

and you can get the badges clearing with any character?

[hidden creek]

yes and yes

[normal galleon]

I understand thank your letting me know

can I get top 3 with 35k score build? 🥲

if I get helped

[fickle linden]

score means nothing

and no

you need all 3 players to contribute

[hidden creek]

tbh it depends on your server ig

[normal galleon]

then what's the secret like, isnt the difference from 30 to 39k to get max rolls and rare substats?

[hidden creek]

but if you don't have a finished meta build

[fickle linden]

maybe if you play on console

[hidden creek]

likely 0 chance

[fickle linden]

even in NA PC no

[rotund forge]

It just give a badge right

[normal galleon]

what if I play with 2 other players that are top 3

[rotund forge]

Nothing else

[hidden creek]

you get top 3

trios is team time

[normal galleon]

yeah but it looks cool on profile I guess

[fickle linden]

yeah

[rotund forge]

☠️ alright no need to sweat over it i guess

[fickle linden]

when is the last time you checked someones badges

[cursive kestrel]

nobody cares about ur badge tbh

[normal galleon]

2 minute ago

[fickle linden]

so no need

[cursive kestrel]

[normal galleon]

so I can send the screnshoot to ask for infromation

[balmy coral]

Ye both pve and ranked with high ms sux

[fickle linden]

i mean if you play on console might aswell get the badge

or if you are top player that can just get top3 time fast

but i dont think it's worth grinding for

for average player

[rotund forge]

Anyways some chinese player will dethrone that some other day on the end of showdown

[hidden creek]

with like 1800 reruns or so

[fickle linden]

many top players in eu haven't even cleared paragon10 yet

[hidden creek]

[fickle linden]

that are always top3 in previous seasons

ppl are gonna drop alot ranks next week

[normal galleon]

I swear dodging is harder in this game than elden ring dlc

I have enough dmg to clear solo paragon 10 but I cant dodge

[rotund forge]

Coz u have defuse

☠️

[normal galleon]

defuse is for weak

[cursive kestrel]

i don't think u have to dodge any huanyue attack

[rotund forge]

Huanyue u just run away

No dodge

[hidden creek]

facetank everything

[north lynx]

What's your guys best server times

[cursive kestrel]

lol and she jump on your head and do that fang strike

[north lynx]

Like the servers best trios time

[fickle linden]

eu best trio team havent played yamas yet

so best trios time is tbd

[normal galleon]

idk like 40 sec

[north lynx]

Only 40?

[normal galleon]

for now

[hidden creek]

SEA is 0:33 with tarka, valda and yoto

[cursive kestrel]

sea pc is too competitive to compete with them

[north lynx]

Ours is like 35

[cursive kestrel]

u got no chance bro

[hidden creek]

trios top 1 def gonna be this comp though

[north lynx]

Mine is 40

And my copper ward doesn't even have a rare on it

I'm def grabbing a spot this season

[fickle linden]

i forgot what time cn had with tarka valda kurumi

or was it yoto valda kurumi

[north lynx]

Kinda rng honestly

[hidden creek]

well, yeah

that's why they're doing like 1800 reruns

[north lynx]

It's like did u pull good curio and have enough mats to scrap together these weird builds

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Xilenced leveled up!

[north lynx]

Then u gotta fight boss rng

[hidden creek]

on sea we got chambers that are showdown dedicated

and the competition is

ppl being toxic to each other

ego > all

[north lynx]

Ego in naraka is weird idk

[hidden creek]

so the top 1 position was heavily contested over all seasons

[north lynx]

Esp when fps is a deciding factor in allot of things

[balmy coral]

That applies heavily to ranked.

[plain spire]

Can't compete for top 1 bow, i can't find the cheesing strategy best record is 1.20 mine is 1.40

[balmy coral]

and since every ms has its own weird interactions. Ppl would complain fighting a 60 ms when they have 15 vice versa

[north lynx]

Probably fps related

Fps affects projectile speed unfortunately

[plain spire]

When huanyue is in the air my arrows doesn't display dmg T_T

[balmy coral]

and since this game is buggy as hell

Did they fix the language switch bug yet?

[plain spire]

I think it's fix

[balmy coral]

I see.

I'm speculating 24E next boss will be an Elden ring copy with super delayed attacks.

[north lynx]

Except now my voice changes to english whenever I login

👎

[plain spire]

SEA server kinda still unstable for me since update. Im playing TI in Asia server. I keep disconnecting in SEA during TI run.

[balmy coral]

Ye that happens quite often.

[normal galleon]

do you get more drops on peak than topaz? cause I cant play peak solo

[balmy coral]

Ye for frags.

With gold keys

[normal galleon]

so If I play solo topaz with gold keys how much would I lose

casue I cant find anyone on EU server to play with

[plain spire]

600 fatigue on 150% drop rate on peak can get 350-500 souljade fragments alone if lucky.

[normal galleon]

well Im on 100% drop

[lone umbra]

dont waste gold keys on 100%

[balmy coral]

Come SEA I can do like 3 runs with normal keys

[normal galleon]

yeah makes total sense to save gold keys and elixir for the firstr 600 of the reset

[normal galleon]

but we need 1 more person

[lone umbra]

that is 2400 nirriti runs iirc

[chilly kestrel]

yes

[chilly kestrel]

u gonna waste urs when u carry me right

[lone umbra]

[signal kite]

[balmy coral]

Red dead is just making me depressed.

The story is getting sadder the longer u play it

[rotund forge]

Tragedy ending

Both rdr and rdr2

[north lynx]

I don't wanna goto work !

[rotund forge]

well should take govt job and retire

[balmy coral]

I'm free of work for 2 weeks now

[crimson cave]

anyone here to run yama trios with meee

[tribal bone]

What build u got ?

[fierce light]

Tbh if you're not burning all your fatigue trying to run the slow stuff, mine as well burn it in Inferno.

[soft pelican]

between monk and yueshan whos better rn?

[crimson cave]

one of the best bowers here

well top 10 yama always in solos

[tribal bone]

So tessa bow ?

[crimson cave]

usually temulch now

[tribal bone]

Oh damn

I use tessa bow

I suck 💀

Cant do much in solo

[crimson cave]

we need to find some good yoto or valda

and can try

[tribal bone]

I mean i do have other builds
But they are not strong enough

[tribal bone]

Neel got a good yoto build

[crimson cave]

@lone umbra yoto us in yama?

[tribal bone]

Im missing one windfall on my bow build

[crimson cave]

i thinj he was yaming whole night already

[tribal bone]

I burnt like 700 Crystals in for last windfall

No luck so far

[crimson cave]

in solos bow not that much about stats than it is about gameplay

[fierce light]

It becomes significantly inefficient to go past 2 rares on a single jade.

[tribal bone]

Guess i suck at gameplay too 💔

[crimson cave]

its ok i do too

comes with practice

[lone umbra]

what are we targeting?

[tribal bone]

Noted

[lone umbra]

just clear or some other?

[crimson cave]

top 10

[tribal bone]

Top 10

[crimson cave]

or top 20

i am a good bower you know that

[tribal bone]

[lone umbra]

no valda = no top 10

[crimson cave]

i bow before lannie every day

[lone umbra]

lets try though

[tribal bone]

💔

[lone umbra]

need valda badly

[crimson cave]

lemme log

[tribal bone]

Unfortunately im broke on crystals
Or I would've built valda

[crimson cave]

log in

[tribal bone]

[tribal bone]

nah nah , i meant rather than having 1 windfall and 1 mod on one jade, 2 mod on other jade

i can do 1 windfall on jade one and 3 mod on jade two

ofc 3 windfall on single jade is gonna be a bad idea

[dusty wharf]

I have justina

for sea

[fierce light]

Valda can deal 152.09 Attack/s with her Awakened Curio.

Bow, on the otherhand, deals up to 19.14 Attack/s.

[dusty wharf]

@tribal bone u running para 9 ?

[tribal bone]

how much will valda do without any rares?

better than bow?

[crimson cave]

you say valda 10x bow?

[tribal bone]

playing para10 rn

[dusty wharf]

got a spot ?

[tribal bone]

💀

@crimson cave we should retry

i missed my shots

[tribal bone]

after this sure

[fierce light]

Still a similar situation. You're trading

• -1x Attribute #2
• +1.5x Attribute #3

[fickle linden]

i'm trying but i'm burnt out already

in hindsight im fine with this 1 month inferno hahaah

but yeah 75 fatigue per run is nice, no way im doing nirriti or ditd

[tribal bone]

TI drops tho 🚮

[fierce light]

Bow can get a higher dmg bonus overall,but for a more direct comparison Valda is doing:

• 63×Attack per hit of Nezha's Might as Burn DMG.

-# 48×Attack from Extreme Sea Leveler + 15×Attack each Fireball.

• 40.46×Attack per Nezha's Might as Hit DMG.

-# 10.46×Attack from Nezha's Might + 5×Attack from each Fireball.

Meanwhile, Bow does:

• 46.25×Attack per Void Destroyer.

[dusty wharf]

valda build also requires 12 rares ?

[tribal bone]

how does she perform without rares?

[fierce light]

Burn only cares about 2 non-rare attributes, so the rest would be kind of wasted.

[fickle linden]

showdown drops in general tho

[fierce light]

But you could go DMG to Bosses & Melee Weapon DMG to boost the Hit DMG a bit

[fickle linden]

burning fatigue feels like im not wasting it even if drops in TI are not that good

[fierce light]

Mainly having 4 Moderation is important

You'll out dmg Bow with just that

[tribal bone]

damn, is there a video that explains how to play new valda build?

[crimson cave]

@tribal bone when you countdown throw a F

at 4 seconds

then pre charge

same when she switches to wolf

[tribal bone]

alr alr

[crimson cave]

while you cant damage her you can send an f

[tribal bone]

pre charge didnt nothing

[crimson cave]

it will damage later + u get damage up

[tribal bone]

so i did it after she changed

[tribal bone]

but it wont work when she is evolving yea?

use mic fr

ill follow along

[crimson cave]

it will

no mic

just 2 times

countdown and swap phase

a bit earlier on cd

[fierce light]

This is Valda doing Skill → Dragonslayer → Nezha's Might once (with no Windfalls) vs Tessa doing 3 Void Destroyers + Bead activating (on max build).

[tribal bone]

Facts

[crimson cave]

you got it somewhat right
you need to time it the way so you have time to double charge your bow before boss appears

for switch phase ad soon as she starts turning you repair - f - void destroyer so you wont accidentally lose deadeye

[crimson cave]

do you know if temulch ult does more aegis damage than a void shot?

[fierce light]

If the boss stays in it long enough, yeah.

The activation alone might do more

[crimson cave]

hmmmI thought its only impact only

[north lynx]

Valda is bad, no one should play her

[fierce light]

It does damage over time and suction effect

[north lynx]

[crimson cave]

can you carry my temulch in paragon 10

im not satisfied with top 4 😭

[crimson cave]

i see

[fierce light]

Would be crazy if they gave Temulch his extreme attack as his Curio

Would be the best mobber

[north lynx]

I don't think I can land a defuse on 200 ping

[crimson cave]

its just that if you break your void shots cycle its a lot of time to charge them back

[north lynx]

Ik I only need to land like 1 or 2 but

[crimson cave]

esp with time to jusmp to boss and land and ult

maybe like 1 ult is 2-3 void shots time wise

so im tryna math it

[fierce light]

If Aegis DMG is a concern, then you definetly want to ult. It does less health damage in comparison though.

[bold ice]

anyone has any ideas when its best to use justina ult on paragon 10?

[crimson cave]

i was told the boss ults at 50% health so you need to brrak his AA before that mark

for wolf girl phase 2 in p10

[crimson cave]

wdym with extreme attack

[crimson cave]

damn i cant play even at 120 🥲🥲🥲

[fierce light]

Annihilation Render, his equivalent to Viper's Moonbane's Wrath.

[fierce light]

Yeah, a lot of the CN players sacrificed their Health DMG for more Aegis DMG.

[rotund forge]

[crimson cave]

never seen it hh

[tribal bone]

Is that 137 for valda build with only 4 mod ?

[tribal bone]

I did repair - deadeye - f - ult - deadeye

But i did learn a lot ngl

[crimson cave]

no sense in deadeye while she aint taking damage

f should be next since you don't want tonlose time on prechargin again

[fierce light]

• 6x Attack
• 6x Health
• 6x DMG to Bosses
• 2x Melee Weapon DMG
• 4x [Moderation]

[crimson cave]

if she already damagable and you didnt have time to precharge you should be fine ulting straight ahead and then back to pew pew

should have just enough time

[crimson cave]

ye more than enough

[rotund forge]

yo damn we have heroes assemble

[rotund forge]

rip yoto skin bruv

34 pulls

[fierce light]

Wonder if that chest had a higher rate than others.

[dusty wharf]

atleast u got smthing

I ain't got anything

[cursive kestrel]

i want that tianhai skin

[balmy coral]

Fuc u

I hate u

too

[dusty wharf]

same here I hate him with my ❤️

[tribal bone]

Oh noted
The fact that just 4 mod and correct rare and she is already doing more damage than bow 💀
Altho I got a question, is this only good until curios last ?

[tribal bone]

Damn
Lucky MF, i opened 50 Chests so far
No red

[fierce light]

She has a Scorching Musket build, but that uses entirely different jades than the one for her Curio and also requires 4 Scorching.

[tribal bone]

Musket build, nah

Is her other build good without curios ?

Coz curios got like 10 days after which they wont exist

[fierce light]

Other build?

[crimson cave]

but its not in game as of now or?

also i suppose theres no need to chase curios since they all gonna be removed again?

[fierce light]

It's in Nirriti's Ruins

[tribal bone]

The one u talked about before

137.7 Damage

[tribal bone]

This

[fierce light]

After you get a perfect Curio for the hero(es) you plan on competing with, you can do whatever you want.

[tribal bone]

But will the build be good after curios are gone ?

[rotund forge]

☠️ yea lot of ppl got it early

[rotund forge]

only 3 ppl in heroes

[fierce light]

Yeah that's the Curio build with no Windfalls. Still the same jades (Element Surge, Pestilent Pool, Miasma Drive, Incineration, Renewed Vigor, & Copper Ward).

Scorching Musket build uses different jades, as you need to parry Thunder for it to even be viable.

[rotund forge]

did u get yoto

[tribal bone]

I gotta change time
Im not home at this time

[fierce light]

No way to apply a strong Burn reliably, so no

[rotund forge]

☠️ why u set it at this time then

[crimson cave]

bow should be fine tho without curios

unless they mess it up somehow

[tribal bone]

So there is no point for me to build her curio build coz thats gonna waste resources

[balmy coral]

Yes

and most legendary

[fierce light]

Kinda, you'll be set when Curios come back.

[fickle linden]

kylin dedicated and bow build most future proof no?

[tribal bone]

I did set it at 8pm
But people keep tweaking the timing without asking

[crimson cave]

you can do it for the next season of you want, but its no guarantee it would be meta again

[fierce light]

Kylin build the least likely to change, although the 6th jade (Soul-drawing) will always change when Curios come out.

[balmy coral]

Ye cos kylin has 2 dedicated builds

[tribal bone]

Well ill just save and wait for new season : )

[crimson cave]

i think justina is more or less good pre curios phase too

[fierce light]

They could remove Blazing Flame, making the Health attributes useless for Valda's build.

Strong chance they're going to nerf Chain Crush as well

[crimson cave]

changin a non rare atr to wahtever else is no that biggie tho

[fierce light]

Yeah, but you'd also have to replace Copper Ward.

[crimson cave]

better than making scorching fotm and then killing it completely

just for instance

[fierce light]

Valda's Scorching Musket still one of the strongest non-Curio builds.

Mainly cause of how many she can do in one quick succession.

[rotund forge]

bruh again a yueshan collab

[crimson cave]

im pretty happy with my bow, and next season i can work on something else while having a future proof all rounder build for tough encounters

[lone umbra]

That build will still be first to use even chain crush nerf

[tribal bone]

Damn so thats the strongest build
Well ill build it if its strongest in new season

[tribal bone]

🔥

👑

[fierce light]

It's also a 4/4/4 build, so getting the rares won't be so painful unless you happen to get a lot of one.
-# 4/4/4 being a build needing 4x Scorching, 4x Moderation & 4x Windfall.

Although if they remove Blazing Flame, it might become a 4/4/10 build lol. Really hope they consider expanding the Potential Tree instead.
-# Being a build needing 4x Scorching, 4x Moderation, & 10x Windfall.

[tribal bone]

Noobie question
What does 4/4/4 mean?

[fickle linden]

4 mod 4 wf 4 scorch

[tribal bone]

4 of each ??

Cooked

[rotund forge]

[tribal bone]

4/4/10 ??

[rotund forge]

imagine they introduce another raree

then again fked

u playin rift nowadays?

i played today saw hackers

bruh

[tribal bone]

Nope

I did play 1 match today and yesterday

Both matches
I got cooked, why? Coz my mf teammates left

Like bruh
U guys were getting cooked
I came to help you, and u left me ?

Bruh

[dusty wharf]

which curios are a must have ?

[tribal bone]

Banner, bead and sutra

But depends on the hero tbh

[dusty wharf]

@fierce light what's the awakening for bead

desired awakening *

[lone umbra]

3 element burst

[north lynx]

The cheater police is filled with hackers from sea

For rift

They just cheat with a teammate and then drop them the goods

Sick anti cheat team fr

[plush grail]

anyone wanna help me kill all 8 enigma Peak bosses its the only season challenge I have left to do

I tried to solo it but Huanyue hates me lol

[dusty wharf]

server ?

[plush grail]

NA

[dusty wharf]

sry I'm on sea

[plush grail]

all good no worries

[north lynx]

Maybe

If ur on later

@plush grail

[plush grail]

sounds goods I will be on all day

Will probably be on SW when it goes live later tonight but I will be on

[cursive fable]

@north lynx hi

the fastest combo on NA is the tarka +yoto+valda right?

[thorn narwhal]

Most likely indirectly, with each season and new builds enemies get tougher by nature which will make older builds feel weaker overtime.

[signal kite]

Darwin's theory of evolution 🧬 type shii

[north lynx]

Ye

[cursive fable]

btw

the yin curio, i forgot the name in english

basically the awakening effect

while not elemental surge sucks ass right?

[fierce light]

Bow build has a chance to get more dedicated Souljades. Right now it only has 2.

Ice build started with only a couple as well, but now we have full 6 set.

[north lynx]

It depends. It's a permanent activation for renewed vigor

But the other one is probably better yeah

Doesn't really matter tho tbh

[cursive fable]

the 8% execute effect is good for yamas solo push?

like it wont execute the boss first phase

but it just might execute the 2nd phase(wolf)

[north lynx]

It is if you can slot a chain crush user

But that kinda hard

[cursive fable]

basically other heros top 3 in trio

is carried by the yoto/valda core?

[north lynx]

Pretty much, and it's difficult to beat tarka

Ranged can but eh

Rumi can too because buffs

[fierce light]

Yeah, you could activate it around 20% health and it'll still execute since it's separated to multiple hits.

[cursive fable]

@fierce light for solos?

ya i need that

my curio doesnt have the 8% exeucte effect

trashhhh

@north lynx @fierce light do you guys know what % hp

the wolf boss jumps to the the sky/roof lol

i think its 40?

[fierce light]

50%

[north lynx]

50%

[cursive fable]

oh some video show 40

maybe he just outdpsed some hp?

[fierce light]

If he's staggered at the right time it can activate slightly later

[cursive fable]

ya

[north lynx]

You can hurt it down allot with dps before it activates

It has a windup too

[cursive fable]

theres no hero can bypass that mech right?

[north lynx]

Aegis break beforehand is the tech

[fierce light]

No, they patched that out some time ago

Only way is breaking Aegis now.

[cursive fable]

the top yueshans

save their ult for the roof phase lol

like they just skydive that phase lmao

[fierce light]

Weird time to ult, unless he can reach her up there?

[cursive fable]

ya

with f

like feels like pvp mode lmao

people pillar u during yueshan ult

and u gotta skydive them

@north lynx

the #1 solo time for valda/yoto is insane

its around sea/cn level lol

for those 2 heros's solo

[north lynx]

It's kinda sus tbh lol

But ya

It's nuts

[cursive fable]

bro

i feel like

alot of the hero#1

will just be the same player

lol

[fierce light]

There's a lot of unskippable time in this fight, so times are going to be rather close.

[cursive fable]

@fierce light

like phase 1 transform into p2 right

and p2 on roof?

[fierce light]

Yeah

So much so, that they gain time by specing into more Aegis dMG

[desert compass]

Enigma Peak need help 🥹

[woven shell]

johnny boy how is yama doing for you?

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-excited-groove-moves-gif-16779278

peak yama

[soft pelican]

when im not in yueshan ult what combo should i do? vertical charge + aegis break spam?

[fierce light]

If you have 0% Moderation:

• Spam Torrent Flow.
• Use Skill whenever ready.

If you have 15-75% Moderation:

• Spam Torrent Flow.
• Use Skill when ready and Elemental Burst isn't on cooldown.

If you have 80-100% Moderation:

• Use Torrent Flow -> Skill -> Torrent Flow and repeat with slight delay.
  • Make sure your first Torrent Flow during every rotation lands while Elemental Burst is off cooldown.

-# Torrent Flow = 1st Stage Vertical Charge.

[soft pelican]

tx

if i have low moderation should i just play lotus build instead of generic ice build?

[cursive fable]

@fierce light torrent flow is 1st stage right click blue?

[soft pelican]

wait i dont chain into aegis break after torrent flow ever?

[fierce light]

Regular Ice Surge will still work, but Chill Spike has less value the less Moderation you have

[fierce light]

Yueshan's Aegis-break is pretty bad DPS wise, even with Aegis-break Rage. Doesn't help it has a long animation lock too, making it generally unsafe.

[soft pelican]

kk tx

[cursive fable]

@fierce light has yueshan top 3 been free or competitive?-

[fierce light]

Idk about pc

But it looked pretty free last I checked on xbox

Don't think that many even cleared 10

[cursive fable]

i need to update my yueshan curio next week

@fierce light does my accumlation toward chain crush reset if i press my yueshan ult before it procs?

like does yueshan and yueshan ult form has seperate track towards the big bursty chain crush?

i saw the yueshan player got 2 chaincrush , he only ulted once during the boss's first phase

[fierce light]

No, they're shared. Only thing that resets are your self-accumulation meters (Frostbite, Thundershock and Toxin).

[cursive fable]

frostbite resets the accumlation towards chain crush?

i thought chain crush is procced when your ice blast procs 15 times and then use an uncharged attack

[fierce light]

Chain Crush isn't Frostbite

It's not reset

[cursive fable]

oh ya

chain crush accumlation is shared with yueshan/his ult form?

[fierce light]

Frostbite is the blue bar that makes you freeze when full

[fierce light]

Yes, it keeps the charge

[cursive fable]

i always wonder if i should wait for the chain crush procs first

and then press my ult

guess no need for this haha

[fierce light]

It just resets the bars at the bottom left

[cursive fable]

i need my yueshan top 3

gonna finish all fatigue on reset

loll

then just spam on yueshan lol

thanks for the info!

[soft pelican]

if i need to aoe clear on yueshan do i still spam vertical charge 1

assuming out of ult ofc

[viscid wraith]

Yes

smacc them

[cursive fable]

dont play yueshan in tempered

go ziping

[soft pelican]

im just talking generic aoe not ti

some bosses have add phase too

[valid schooner]

The Rock dude ruined my mood so badly, I don't even want to play anymore.

[tribal venture]

[plush grail]

[amber terrace]

wait next test for new season showdown

[lone umbra]

[lone umbra]

when?

today or tomorrow?

[amber terrace]

friday

[lone umbra]

only 4 day to test?

wednesday is new update

[amber terrace]

?

17/9 new season

1 week

[lone umbra]

yes 17/9 is new season

if we get friday test server then 4 day to test

[amber terrace]

1 week

[signal kite]

[tribal venture]

[subtle bramble]

do promo vids for new hero and new boss usually get released before test server release or after?

[hidden creek]

before

[hollow escarp]

So we know who next in showdown this weekend

[cursive kestrel]

I think we might have akos when at the half of the new season comes

[hollow escarp]

Or zai

[cursive kestrel]

doesn't feel like he will come this near new update at all

[lone umbra]

Zaiiii

[cursive kestrel]

I hate her long ass charging

[lone umbra]

It is good

[lone umbra]

I can finally use zai skins

[cursive kestrel]

understand bro i don't play her at all

like never touch it

I rather play monk

[lone umbra]

Yeah i hate her in pvp but might like her in showdown

[lone umbra]

Me meanwhile goes for matari

[cursive kestrel]

when she's running in her ult looks slippery

like she would stumble anytime

[lone umbra]

Didn't noticed that now that you say yeah she does look like that

[cursive kestrel]

I feel that with her under attack F too slippery

[viscid wraith]

[cursive kestrel]

[lone umbra]

[hidden creek]

💀

[cursive kestrel]

this is me when i craft banner

[balmy coral]

@amber terrace TI later?

[amber terrace]

After reset

[balmy coral]

Is it wednesday or back on thursday?

[amber terrace]

Today is tuesday

2 days

[balmy coral]

Ok

[fierce light]

This game and it's lack of pity

[hidden creek]

i was screaming

HOW

MANY

MORE

[fierce light]

Next week's reset is going to be early

[hidden creek]

GOLD

?

[balmy coral]

Oh that makes sense.

[soft pelican]

if i cant do ti on nightscream on my own yet is it fine to just spam ghetto ti

[amber terrace]

lol =))

[dusty wharf]

lvls above para 10 are avalaible ?

[amber terrace]

no

[dusty wharf]

then what is in that screenshot

[rotund forge]

What's this now

[amber terrace]

error gem

[dusty wharf]

wait if u guyz are saying that new season will start at 17/9

will the jades also reset or only curio

or nothing

[hidden creek]

jades never reset

curios always gone when new season comes

[dusty wharf]

oh yea mb

I mean to say new jades will be introduced ?

[hidden creek]

most likely

[crimson cave]

maybe it will be like 3.5

with TI still present

[fierce light]

Yeah every season brings new jades from the new missions.

They usually have some synergy with the new potential tree.

[dusty wharf]

so new meta builds are also expected

[fierce light]

Yes, last season was Lotus, but it got heavily nerfed.

[lone umbra]

believe new build will be around surge ? chill spike most likely to be removed