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sullen stirrup
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i jus got my first enimga domain solo 9/9 bosses

dusky sparrow
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Wish I could manage that

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Maybe I have the skill now? It's just the routing that I am confused on

sullen stirrup
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tbf i got it with like 10 secs left lol

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what server u on?

sullen stirrup
dusky sparrow
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Am still working on frost lotus set

sullen stirrup
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oof im on eu

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i never felt loutuses did much for me tbh

dusky sparrow
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I mean.

sullen stirrup
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idk tho ive seen other ppls look very cool

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still working on a skill surge one

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if im lvl 100 what lvl would i be next season?

tribal bone
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damn i just got a jade from SND with scorching

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: (

fierce light
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Can still recast to max. Your Ranged Weapon Dmg is only 70%.

tribal bone
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do i move to other jades or max this one?

balmy coral
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max it first since u already have high valued attributes

tribal bone
balmy coral
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Ye

tribal bone
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crazy how i got two scorching and then got windfall

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made me broke

sullen stirrup
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i rlly need 2 more moderations

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so sad

rotund forge
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same

viscid wraith
sullen stirrup
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any eu players on

woeful monolith
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This might be the best drop I have ever seen (outside of receiving a rare). You have 2 at 100% and 1 atleast 90% but attribues are solid lol.

fierce light
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It's a good thing it's not ice, otherwise that 90% would've been wasted

cursive fable
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bow build is a legit investment

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i doubt the jades would be replaced

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arent most of the jades in the bow build released seasons ago?

sullen stirrup
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yh im pretty sure

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if ur gonna upgrade backblast and desperation should be fazed out

bold ice
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the jades maybe wont change

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but potential will

fierce light
fickle linden
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atleast it was "cheap" to build

fierce light
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Ice build when it first released only had 2 core jades. Then Thunder released with 3 core jades.

fickle linden
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i wouldn't mind more good builds that don't require 12 rare stats

fierce light
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From there the number of core jades steadily increased. Ranged just released, so it doesn't have many core jades

bold ice
fierce light
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It doesn't have a busted attribute like Ice Blast DMG, so it's unlikely it'll ever need 12 rares.

balmy coral
fierce light
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Dang, the damage difference from having Soul-drawing instead of Enrage on Kylin is kinda nuts.

viscid wraith
elder hound
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am i understanding correctly that ppl that didnt play last season are unable to get yin yang synergy until inferno reopens

fierce light
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Can't awaken any Curios without Tempered Essence.

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So no.

elder hound
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tragic

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randomly queued into 2 ppl in SND that had the buff and was like "wtf is this"

fierce light
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Hoping it's reasonably possible to get it while still in 150% rewards.

balmy coral
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Got a free skin chest in showdown event

summer ridge
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After that loss

fierce light
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Good luck

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Just started Kylin's build, got 2 Scorchings

sullen stirrup
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i got a halberd skin so n the tessa one so my tessa look hard af now

sullen stirrup
fierce light
sullen stirrup
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i mean the other 2 are rlly good tbf does windfall increase stats past the max

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i got 2 and 2 moderations so my skill surge builds almost coming together

fierce light
sullen stirrup
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sickkkkk

turbid agate
sullen stirrup
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im watching ur vids rn lmao

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unless u jus took his name

north lynx
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The dps you get on it is only really matched by justina ice

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And if you are getting close to an infinite skill build that does damage and procs elements with an extremely fast casting channel

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That p good

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Yeah if you are watching showdown content

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Dark be the guy

sullen stirrup
north lynx
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He's a wealth of showdown knowledge, cool player

sullen stirrup
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where are all the showdown yters the all chinese or smth

north lynx
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Most naraka yters are Chinese tbh

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And they don't even use yt

fierce light
north lynx
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It's like bilibili or douyin

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People kinda gave up on watching naraka YouTube content and YouTube stopped feeling gains because of it

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The larger naraka YouTubers mostly quit

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And naraka has this really bad misinformation problem

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Due to how nothing in naraka is explained very well

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So it's kinda dead, regardless of the drop in players

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Was dead when we had rise in players too

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Naraka youtube anyway

fierce light
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Yeah majority of Naraka content is on BiliBili and Douyin

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They have daily uploads

sullen stirrup
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yh its a shame its hard to learn about the game if u want help it here or no where else

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just searched them thx guys

north lynx
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U do need to kinda know cn or to translate it well but

north lynx
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If u can bypass that barrier you get a wealth of knowledge

north lynx
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Yeah for navigating content on those websites

sullen stirrup
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yh ill look into it tomorrow its 4 am in britan

fierce light
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These three search terms I use for BiliBili:
Showdown
征神之路
Showdown - Test Server
征神之路测试服
Showdown - Yama's Abyss
征神之路十殿门

mild barn
cursive fable
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bow build is def need it lol

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everyone in peak is autolocking Ziping/Justina

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the third non range hero sucks ass compare to those 2

north lynx
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Bow in peak is great cause you can just sit on a perch and pew pew

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Teammates drop you repair kits

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Ez mode

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Rythem game tbh

fierce light
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I got my Bow build at like 99% power, putting it on hold to work on Kylin's.

valid schooner
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I went in SND using the trial Feria and her Musket. Holy shit, musket's hit detection is so atrocious, like, it's so bad to the point of making me laugh instead of being angry Matari_Laugh Thankfully I haven't wasted any resource on it.

shrewd basin
elder hound
fierce light
elder hound
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its an interesting decision to make it so that projectile shoot at an angle to the right due to the crosshair being centered and the character being on the left of it

fierce light
fierce light
hard storm
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remind me again, better to drop fragments from peak vs the SND right?

fierce light
hard storm
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gotcha, thank you

elder hound
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i wonder if its exacerbated by "deadeye mode" changing the zoom, but it like maintains the viewpoint of normal state

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so it just becomes completely inaccurate

fierce light
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Bow only has issues with its Counterstrike, but it's so bad anyways you often want to dodge cancel it

hard storm
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got scorching for rare and is feeling kinda

hard storm
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I should be cheering if i got windfall on desperation right lol?

fierce light
amber terrace
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Yes

dusky cosmos
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Does anyone have a video of Valda musket build in action?

serene lodge
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It's better to be max level to queue up on the yama abyss right?

meager hound
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Whats the best way to farm showdown levels?

amber terrace
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noice, time to test new hero

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handsome

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The Flash =)))))))))

balmy coral
amber terrace
balmy coral
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In ranked

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He has too many chase

amber terrace
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Rift mode has training

balmy coral
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a better yueshan and matari combined in ranked

amber terrace
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im testing

rotund forge
balmy coral
amber terrace
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dafuq, rift mode training even can't choice weapon

rotund forge
balmy coral
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Are they gonna base him on thunder scorch? Like Justina on Ice

rotund forge
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damn they really put ur ign on the whole screen so nobody leaks

rotund forge
balmy coral
balmy coral
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Not sure

amber terrace
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new emoji from rift

balmy coral
balmy coral
amber terrace
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look like showdown nothing change

balmy coral
amber terrace
balmy coral
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the trailer betrayed us Matari_Laugh

amber terrace
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oh, i forgot F4 to equip =))

balmy coral
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Well, at least he's hot

viscid wraith
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indeed ^

amber terrace
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OH, this mode return =))

balmy coral
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At naraka fest

amber terrace
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New Repu system

balmy coral
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It's time to play grounded 2 with 30 fps

amber terrace
balmy coral
amber terrace
amber terrace
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im not has 40 series card

balmy coral
amber terrace
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rich

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gimme card

vale inlet
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😂

amber terrace
balmy coral
thorn narwhal
thorn narwhal
amber terrace
thorn narwhal
# thorn narwhal 3 scorch on thunder counter, that specific jade do really like scorching a lot

Altho I would recommend holding off onto building it, I'm almost all the way in and I don't see it lasting in end game levels or even after inferno opens,
-One of the most risky builds out there.
-always leaves you on 1 hp and any hit instantly kills you even in ult you still die a lot.
-any boss with animation, mid-way ult like the trash manticore is a big no, and in general you're cooked once you need to charge your ult again.
-build up is insanely slow and onerous for just ~15secs "if" it all went correct.

vale inlet
vale inlet
boreal cosmos
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Can someone grab this granny

amber terrace
sullen stirrup
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ive been loving matari recently

tribal bone
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And why is that?

rotund forge
tribal bone
sullen stirrup
# tribal bone And why is that?

i only have 2 moderations and her f skill is still up amost of ther time and wither her ult it infinate and she fun to fly around a boss

fierce light
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I took off Enrage. I managed to clear Paragon 5 faster with Soul-Drawing instead. Went from 2:59 to 2:26. Pretty slow, but I barely have the Attributes I want yet.

sullen stirrup
fierce light
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Matari feels great at 100% mod and 30% Elemental Accumulation Rate from a Curio. Skill + 2 Aegis-Breaks will proc Ice Blast, so by the time your Flash buff runs out, your Ice Blast is ready again. Without the Curio, it's a bit tight as you have to land 3 Aegis-Breaks.

rotund forge
tribal bone
rotund forge
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6 more

tribal bone
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And did peak with two others today

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I did fairly good

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🤩

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We won

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Did paragon 5 aswell

rotund forge
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Other 2 had full build right

tribal bone
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Im in top 50 tessa

rotund forge
tribal bone
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Maybe 85

rotund forge
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I'm missing the most crucial part of my build

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2 moderation

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☠️

amber terrace
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i'm 0 now

balmy coral
amber terrace
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7 weeks but can't done that

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Bow build keep gimme Scorching or Mod

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Musket keep gimme Windfall or no rare

rotund forge
balmy coral
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should I build for kylin

amber terrace
tribal bone
amber terrace
balmy coral
amber terrace
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sure

fierce light
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Scorching Musket is for Valda

dusty wharf
dusty wharf
crimson cave
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6th one is deadeye rate instead

tribal bone
crimson cave
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6 attack*

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5 windfall

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deadeye is a bit better for mobbing i guess

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and attack is better bosses

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bit still for 30 deadeye you need headshots for it to outperform 10% deadeye

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imo not really worth going for

gusty ivy
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it is scorching any good? i keep getting it instead of windfall or moderation

fierce light
calm kestrel
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I think it’s preference also. I’m working on swapping my maxed Scorchings for Windfall for Tianhai giving me 12 Windfalls.
Windfall gives better damage imo since the Scorching proc has a CD and the damage tick is mediocre.

fierce light
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Scorching isn't consistent without Thunder Counter and it has a 15s duration. If you reapply it within that time frame, that extra damage is just deleted.

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So mainly recommended only for Hydroflare focused builds. Otherwise, you're doing horizontal investment.

fickle linden
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bruh the new hero looks so sick, get him into showdown asap ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

fierce light
hidden creek
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would be funny if his best builds are poison and ice

thorn narwhal
thorn narwhal
fierce light
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helps charge ult quicker

north lynx
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Feel like they tried to ease up the nerfs around it for it to still be worthless

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Worthless is harsh

fierce light
north lynx
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Worse than every other good build*

fierce light
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since she can apply up to 4 Scorchings in one Thunder Counter

north lynx
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Like the musket divine thunder build? I haven't seen the 4 scorching on her yet

amber terrace
north lynx
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Do u have a visual?

amber terrace
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yes

fierce light
north lynx
amber terrace
north lynx
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Gib valda musket video plz

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With 4 scorching procs

north lynx
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Really op

fierce light
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444 build

north lynx
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Health attack build?

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O 444

amber terrace
north lynx
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I can probably modify my current thunder scorch into this smoothly. I'm assuming just like the normal thunder attack build?

amber terrace
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ehm...

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maybe

fierce light
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Wdym by normal thunder attack?

north lynx
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Idk how to describe it, the old one

amber terrace
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parry>atk>dodge>parry>atk

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u mean that?

north lynx
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Oh it's a draco stride build

fierce light
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no

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You apply soak with Valda's ability

north lynx
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It isn't, ok ok

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Main damage is through burn tho right?

fierce light
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Yes

north lynx
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No copper ward?

amber terrace
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No

north lynx
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If u don't wanna leak, would u mind dming the build?

river stratus
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@north lynx

north lynx
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Ty ty

fierce light
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Oh nvm

amber terrace
north lynx
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That's easy to convert to, nice

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Hopefully I didn't disenchant my incin yet

amber terrace
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noiice

dusky sparrow
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My wife.
God 3 moderation on her frost surge set.
I am cry

north lynx
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Any reason we aren't running copper ward?

fierce light
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Blazing Flame was nerfed pretty heavily. Copper Ward only ends up being +15% Burn DMG.

amber terrace
hidden creek
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oh huh

amber terrace
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range weapon can't defuse

hidden creek
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they changed scorching?

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ranged attack can now proc it too?

north lynx
amber terrace
fierce light
thorn narwhal
north lynx
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Ye that's op, ty ty I've been waiting for a scorching build to surface

fierce light
amber terrace
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i even tried use flame musket bullet before that

fierce light
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Everything that could reapply Burn quickly before had low damage multipliers.

amber terrace
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nothing new in showdown next update

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boring

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just change something for herald/rift

fierce light
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Prepping for Inferno I guess

amber terrace
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2 weeks for TI

fierce light
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Wish they would adjust Ruins

fickle linden
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so many builds this season

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no resources to build them all

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and new season soon, who knows if they are any good anymore then

amber terrace
fierce light
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Hopefully they expand the Potential Tree next season

amber terrace
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hope they can merge 3 element to 1

fickle linden
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i'm just keeping all my old builds, one day i have all jades in the game maxed ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

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with wrong rares bebu_EcchjkCry

fierce light
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Kylin's build seems pretty future proof

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Valda's can get nerfed by removing Blazing Flame or nerfing it even more.

fickle linden
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i'm just playing kylin for 1 more heng level and then never touching him again bebu_Sweating

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he is not for me

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he looks fun in videos, but i'm just tryna chill

amber terrace
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CN player so crazy

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i'm confused why cn player can add music in this

thorn narwhal
fierce light
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Without Soul-drawing, it looks like the buff from the Ultimate stacks slower.

thorn narwhal
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i need to know the number of that chunk of health you lose tho, to figure out how much this build needs since game doesn't tell you the health you lose in numbers

fierce light
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It does tell you

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20% of your health per Ultimate attack

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Backfire deals 4% of your damage back to you

thorn narwhal
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yea but it seems consistent, and a bit messy even with 50k damage

fierce light
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Soul-drawing heals 12% of your damage dealt.

thorn narwhal
fierce light
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Which number?

thorn narwhal
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the exact amount you lose with a max buffed counter attack

fierce light
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Oh, yeah Backfire isn't said.

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I just remember calculating 4% of your damage some time ago

balmy coral
thorn narwhal
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yeah its hard to tell, and wether the buff affects it or not, it will even exceeds 2000 health chunk loss if it does

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if is true, figures why soul drawing is the only thing capable of compensating that

fierce light
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I still have to test if the damage bonus is additive or multiplicative

turbid agate
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Is the kylin thunder build you're making a big step up from the regular thunder surge that tianhai uses? @fierce light

fierce light
tribal bone
fierce light
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30%+ Deadeye is more so for Yama's Abyss.

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10% is fine for everything else.

tribal bone
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what about peak?

fierce light
hidden creek
fierce light
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I'm sticking with 43.9% for now

turbid agate
crimson cave
tribal bone
# fierce light

the fact that it goes from 3 body shot to 2 headshot is crazy 😭

tribal bone
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like just state what and how many

crimson cave
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i took it from here

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i just dont see a reason to push deadeye past the 3 shots activation

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im still min maxing it myself too

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rolling for last windfall through scorchings and moderations

north lynx
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The rest I have max stats on

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I'm forgoing building ice this season

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Sticking to deadeye bow, poisen for mobbing, poisen luck for farming, and converting this valda build

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Ice if you don't already have is so expensive

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  • SURELY after 2 dominant seasons they nerf it next season
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I probably won't build the kylin build either tbh

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That too is expensive

tribal bone
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coz it was 3 deadeye and 3 attack in build

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along with 6 windfall

north lynx
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I personally only do 1 deadeye on a windfall jade as well

fickle linden
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camps in this peak map are so terrible

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6 archers in 6 different roofs

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bushes tall as archers, inside courtyards hiding everyone

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wtf

tribal bone
north lynx
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Yeah the pathing is so garbage rn too

fickle linden
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there is one camp that has like 4 buildings, there is always 3 trash mobs stuck inside

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takes forever to find them

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losing like 2min per run just to find those annoying bastards

north lynx
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The camps group the mobs so awkwardly

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Def one of the worse maps

fickle linden
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last season i was chilling, always waiting bossers to kill the boss

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now i'm always behind

north lynx
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Idk why people complained about the last one

fickle linden
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last one was perfect

north lynx
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The last one had so many good spots

fickle linden
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so good for mobbers

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and 3 different spawn points, so it wasn't same route every single game

north lynx
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That one building on the bottom left corner was so good

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With the bridge and the river

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That whoke area was perfect

fickle linden
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you mean top right corner?

north lynx
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Ye

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I think?

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Idr the map now idk

fierce light
fickle linden
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if spawn was there you could go help with boss

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since the camps were so close and fast to clear

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had 70% in like 10sec

north lynx
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It def was right

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Yeah it was nice

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Bottom left was good too

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So many mobs just grouped up on that map

fickle linden
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everywhere was good except that one camp at top left corner Valda_heart

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it was so away from everything else, and had 3 levels to it

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so bad camp xdd

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i once went to check it out, never agian

thorn narwhal
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4th scorch into 5th wrong rare, there goes my whole stock of last season Kylin_bruh

north lynx
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Now it's like "we got 1 guy on this building, one guy on this one, 2 big mobs that are not close by, and a mob stuck behind the building that keeps running off"

thorn narwhal
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is that rare pity not coming

fierce light
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43.9% feels pretty good in Peak since you lose Deadeye so much

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Less reloads

north lynx
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It's too much for 1 char for me

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Ice is def more expensive but more coverage

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I don't really need either tho tbh deadeye bow gives me 3 options, poisen gives me 2, then valda gives me a special slot

drifting lanceBOT
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🎉 | Xilenced leveled up!

north lynx
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Valda burn seems insanely op

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Honestly this seasons build variety was what I was asking for a little while ago

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I'm happy it turned out like this

fickle linden
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love the build variety, my problem is how much commitment just maxing one build takes

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and if it's gonna be trash in 1 month, that hurts

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who knows what they do to potential tree, or what jades they add or nerf bebu_surrender_bye

fierce light
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Most likely nerf would be to Chain Crush

fickle linden
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someone said in here that snd gives out jades that have high substats, it's true then and not just luck?

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i didn't pay any attention to jades last week

fierce light
fickle linden
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ahh

north lynx
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I genuinely think it's bad for the game

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Cause it's like

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The game WANTS you to invest in builds early

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But then completely throws it on it's head last half of the season, not only by adding rng sub stats, but by adding effects that warp what end game builds look like

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If it was just substats with minor buffs cool

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But like what happens if the tarka build comes back

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What if like tianhai gets a crazy busted curio that allows his ult to like 3 tap an eerie boss

limpid pecan
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curios are awful design

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they are completely unbalanced in normal stages

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u are fully on mercy of RNG and have limited time to make good curio before end of season

north lynx
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Yupp!

limpid pecan
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it doesnt even open at season start

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temepered inferno is mindbogglingly boring and annoying to play

north lynx
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Yeah and ur forced to slam it

limpid pecan
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idk why they cant just spawn boss

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in same spawn as mobs

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or even

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we clear mobs first

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then boss stage

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instead we have to chase a single mob running to the furnace

north lynx
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Idrc about that, my issue is moreso in curios forcing you to only play that mode

fierce light
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They're probably going to have to redo the schedule for Inferno

limpid pecan
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well forcing to play certain mode

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is entire showdown in a nutshell

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most of time u grind nirriti

fierce light
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Or better yet, redo the rng system as a whole

north lynx
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Luck build buried tech and dangers is so good

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But even on like a 600 fatigue peak, buried and dangers 1800 run

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That's wayy better than being forced to do 2400 inferno only

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At least it's 75 fatigue or w.e it was

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But you basically get burnt out on showdown super early

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Then they cut u off from showdown

amber terrace
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wishing they can add app music to global as CN sv

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at DJ bar

serene pendant
amber terrace
serene pendant
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vs china its home turf and one country

fierce light
north lynx
fierce light
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Was happy when they added Blessings, but then they only made them available for some

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I don't think I managed to get one perfect Curio

fickle linden
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but there is no time

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all fatigue is needed for curio rng

north lynx
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I was very close but I had like charged instead of wep damage

fierce light
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You can't get Rune Keys from Inferno either

fickle linden
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i wish they would just let us use curios all the time

fierce light
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So you scuff your start next season

fickle linden
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nerf them if they are too op for start of the season

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but if they are so op, why even make them

north lynx
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I feel like the kuromi curio was needed for her

fickle linden
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yeah literally 0 motivation to play her without curio

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after you have tried her with curio

fierce light
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Yeah Poison her BiS right now, but the Curio will make ILC better

north lynx
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Does poisen even stack up to other builds, like outside of mobbing purposes

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Feels like a very clear gap

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Feels like if I put poisen on wuchen, best in slot for him, but then also put ice on tianhai, tianhai would do more

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Idk the numbers on it

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Even for mobbing like justina f

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Just clears so fast

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Which idk does that mean ice does more on wuchen than poisen, even tho he has the fast aegis break?

fierce light
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On the parse I did a while back, it's comparable after the buffs. But the issue is Poison losses a lot more DPS than Ice for any delays. Similar issue for Thunder.

north lynx
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Pls is still better in practice right

fierce light
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PLS likely better for mobbing

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Well it's hard to say, somehow it can get similar times

north lynx
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Yeah we were talking about it a while ago

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There's something weird there in practice that makes it do the same or better numbers

fierce light
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Actually probably because Toxin Surge wants to get Toxin Chains active as quick as possible

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But if you have to delay any martial skills during Toxin Surge, you'll lose out

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Wuchen is able to activate Toxin Seep twice with his Defuse Counterattack at least

north lynx
#

Are we considering a dodge cancel to get max hits on aegis break or just standing still and blue, aegis break

fierce light
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Dodge canceling can be kinda awkward since it does a dagger dash, which has longer end-lag.

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Instead, I turn 180° while charging, then turn back to release

north lynx
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Yeah it's like a 20 ms loss I think

fierce light
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90° works too, just do 180° if you want to maintain a position

north lynx
fierce light
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The full

north lynx
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Nice yeah that's def worth then

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That stupid step in he does is so annoying so it's cool there's a way to play around it

fierce light
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Yeah, i don't think it works as well with aim assist on though

north lynx
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Aim assist in showdown is so mid anyway but I'll forget to turn it back when I go pvp

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And it's a requirement there lol

fierce light
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It's helpful for landing narrow attacks

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I pretty much only turn it off for Wuchen. There's some scuffed attacks like Kylin's Counterstrike though that's annoying

fierce light
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Lol was wondering why it was taking me 2 minutes to kill the 1st phase of Manticore. Was playing on Trios.

thorn narwhal
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and they wonder why ppl are quitting

worldly moat
fickle linden
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so many thousands of fatigue for 1 rare stat

twin ledge
thorn narwhal
surreal saffron
drifting lanceBOT
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🎉 | Nova leveled up!

twin ledge
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I couldn’t get the mod to turn into windfall needed 1 more windfall on new ice build but game did not wanna give me it

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Crazy game

thorn narwhal
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being prisoned by 2nd rare stat is hellish nightmare

twin ledge
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There is no way of gaining that back

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After it happened I’ve actually stopped playing that much been plying other games a lot more

thorn narwhal
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yeah same, i have took a break but once kylin was added had to give it another try, guess this isn't lasting long either

twin ledge
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Tbh Kylin over Zai is actually insane in my opinion

thorn narwhal
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is not even like base build cost isn't expensive its already expensive 4k+ minimum they want you to make too many builds but you can barely finish a single 1 where's the fun if we can't even explore different kind of builds

twin ledge
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Showdown would of actually been fun again if they went ahead and brought her

twin ledge
thorn narwhal
twin ledge
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I’m not building all them

twin ledge
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Cause of how many players love Zai

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Would of been nice if they brought her with kylin tbh

thorn narwhal
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it's not like they even remake or edit the heroes or give them any new special abilities, they legit just copy what's already in pvp as it is bruh and it takes them months

twin ledge
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And I’m confused about it anyways

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I could sworn it was Akos coming next

thorn narwhal
twin ledge
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And come to find out it’s been switched again

thorn narwhal
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"naraka"

twin ledge
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They can’t make up there minds like always

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I was ready for Akos not kylin

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If they said kylin was actually coming wouldn’t have mind

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But Akos was def teased before

thorn narwhal
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they always alter their road plan, ever since yoto was released

fierce light
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Okay just tested, Kylin's DMG Bonus during his Ultimate is additive.

thorn narwhal
twin ledge
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Don’t even think she was even close to being meta off release

fierce light
thorn narwhal
thorn narwhal
twin ledge
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Ziping was the only good decision but a little later than I wanted she my favorite character

fierce light
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Would be surprised if they gave us another hero before or when Inferno releases.

thorn narwhal
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we used to call ziping overpowerd, but now looking at justina Kurumi_Helpmeout

twin ledge
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She nerfs Justina atm

thorn narwhal
fierce light
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Once Curios come back, Justina's probably going to be slightly off-meta.

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Unless she gets a busted dedicated Curio

twin ledge
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Well her skill not letting Justina freeze is kinda gonna make Justina worse for trios

thorn narwhal
twin ledge
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So don’t think she will be in trios meta

fierce light
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It's annoying that Kylin is going to want Rage/DMG on his Curio, but it's rated low so it's going to be the first to go off.

thorn narwhal
thorn narwhal
fierce light
fickle linden
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we had justina and kylin leaked well before they got added

twin ledge
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Akos was teased way back in pretty sure

fierce light
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Yeah, only thing I could think of Kylin for taking so long is cause his Ult can parry neutral attacks.

twin ledge
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When feria came out

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Idk about clips tho

turbid agate
#

Damn, all the heroes dope in my opinion, the only one that needs buffs/changes desperately is Temulch.

north lynx
fierce light
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His kit makes more sense with Bow tbh

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  • Protection from projectiles while he shoots from range.
  • Fast ult charge from Bow.
  • Skill provides a slight elemental dmg buff for the team.
summer ridge
turbid agate
round sonnet
drifting lanceBOT
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🎉 | alvahn leveled up!

fierce light
round sonnet
pearl fractal
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How to do dragonslayer with zipping yin, I can do it sometimes but I need help figuring it out to where I can continuously do it

north lynx
fierce light
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It's not a normal charged attack, it requires somewhat precise timing as otherwise, it'll skip back to the regular charged attack

rotund forge
serene lodge
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Is it better to queue up on bronze first instead of jumping on platinum?

lone umbra
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and then horizontal attack

rotund forge
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@tribal bone is it on 12 or 1130

tribal bone
rotund forge
rotund forge
tribal bone
signal kite
rotund forge
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But the rewards they gave me shit

tribal bone
dusty wharf
rotund forge
drifting lanceBOT
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🎉 | XxAce777xX leveled up!

dusty wharf
rotund forge
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@tribal bone add this guy to the guild

dusty wharf
#

heroes assemble ?

rotund forge
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Yea

tribal bone
dusty wharf
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we have a guild

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wht ur guild's lvl

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@tribal bone

tribal bone
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69

dusty wharf
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tell fr

tribal bone
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almost 17

dusty wharf
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I was in top 10 guild left it for coming to neel's guild

tribal bone
#

Trust 🤞

dusty wharf
#

u r in top 200 ?

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@tribal bone

tribal bone
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Never cared about it until now

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Will care about it from next season

dusty wharf
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Last season I was in top 100 chamber solo

tribal bone
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U didnt grow it

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Nor u did anything else

dusty wharf
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bruh

tribal bone
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I dont see why u keep acting big while replying with lmao

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Like damn

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Imagine

dusty wharf
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intellectual things

tribal bone
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Crazy

tribal bone
dusty wharf
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only 2-3 people spoke english in that

tribal bone
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Okay Lmao

dusty wharf
tribal bone
amber terrace
balmy coral
amber terrace
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no

balmy coral
amber terrace
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yes

balmy coral
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rich

amber terrace
balmy coral
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I want yoto extreme

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I didn't like her prev extreme

amber terrace
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same

balmy coral
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I don't feel like yoto is getting her own curio

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She's been out of the talk even in CN

amber terrace
balmy coral
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Back in inferno even with low element accumulation and my 50% mod. My F stayed up in the crowd

tribal badge
#

Please give all hero to showdown 😇😍

lone umbra
amber terrace
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imagine this is V skin for Akos Hu

covert olive
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is oogleh

amber terrace
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wow

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maybe they will sell V of Wuchen in last year

crimson cave
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I just figured i was playing bow wrong all the time

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if you start charging VD when the previous is not finished it apparently instacharges

hidden creek
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yea if you precharge it it skips one charge step

fierce light
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Yeah cuts down the time between VD's by a quarter

crimson cave
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problem with it is you run out of ammo way faster 💀💀💀

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definitely faster than 1 per 5 sec

crimson cave
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but doesn't work all the time

fierce light
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The active animation is still pretty long so it just ends up saving a little less than a second

crimson cave
#

i guess i was just waiting too long from the start

fierce light
#

Quite the DPS gain

elder hound
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gonna run out of fatigue before i get a single thunder shot this week

worldly moat
#

Guys for the Heroes Assemble, does your showdown lvl matter or only the lvl of the hero? Also if you have any tips that would be helpful, thank you in advance!

fierce light
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Changes the rarity of your weapon and armor

worldly moat
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I understand, so basically you need more people if you want a significant boost in power

hidden creek
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and having someone who's good at math to do the... math thing

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for money

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to spam the shop stuffs

fierce light
worldly moat
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😮 so we are definitely doing something wrong

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we even did the math thing last few times and still

fickle linden
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buy dice for extra money

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or other boosts

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unless you roll low Hadi_what

fierce light
#

Having a

  • Ziping
  • can use her Ultimate at a proper time can extend how long everyone stays on field.
  • can use Razor Swift for high Health DPS output.
  • Wuchen
  • can use his Aegis-Break and Defuse Counterattack for high AoE Aegis DPS.
  • can use his Ultimate to stagger bosses.
    other than that, you just cast all the summons when you die and go right back in.
fickle linden
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🏹

rotund forge
fierce light
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During his ult probably, but I don't see him being that great without it.

fickle linden
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felt really weak to me

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tried him in one round today

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but idk what his rotation even is so i just did bunch of random stuff

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ziping goated for her ult keeping everyone on the stage for overtime

rotund forge
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Matari_Laugh I use ziping but there was somebody else using it so didn't have a chance

fickle linden
#

everything dies so fast you always gotta fight to get enough participation for full rewards lol

rotund forge
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Ziping goated with the 3 bots tho

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Group em up

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Kill em instantly

fickle linden
#

wish we could use showdown builds in heroes assemble

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they could buff enemies to make it more even

rotund forge
#

Unfair for ppl who didn't play showdown

fierce light
obsidian pond
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hello im new at this mode, which character is best for solo play?

dusty wharf
#

whts AoE

obsidian pond
fierce light
dusty wharf
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why does aoe matter

fierce light
rotund forge
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Is aoe

fierce light
fickle linden
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there is also duo bosses in heroes assemble

fierce light
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He has the highest base multiplier on his Aegis-Break.

dusty wharf
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yeah after 8th lvl

dusty wharf
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with defuse and with aegis break skill

rotund forge
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Justina with ice build

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Wuchen I guess the highest in one shot

fierce light
#

Outside of Heroes Assemble, Aegis-Break is usually used for Health Damage

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Cause of potential converting the bonus Aegis DMG to Health DMG.

rotund forge
#

Viper ning and Tessa also do kinda much

fierce light
#

Justina on Skill Surge or Tessa/Temulch on Deadeye Bow will deal plenty Aegis DMG though.

dusty wharf
#

why not straight away do health dmg

rotund forge
#

Does very less

fierce light
#

Cause breaking boss's aegis in there is huge

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Everything does double damage while it's broken

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But in later stages in Showdown, you can't realistically break their Aegis before killing them due to the amount of damage bonuses and attack bonuses you can stack.

dusty wharf
#

that's the case for pros

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like if the ratio of ur power to the boss is way too high then it's most prob gonna die first before the aegis breaks

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but in higher lvls that not the case

fierce light
#

Still, you often don't want to prioritize Aegis DMG in Showdown, mainly comes as a consequence of high damage like from Justina or Bow users.

north lynx
# worldly moat Guys for the Heroes Assemble, does your showdown lvl matter or only the lvl of t...

Do damage. Wuchen is the highest output in damage. Tianhai does suprisenly well as well. Zip is a staple. Outside of that aegis breakers are good, viper, tessa. Justina and matari are good. You can use kuromi like a bootleg zip if zip is taken but she's def worse. When you are spectating use dice, heal, and ignis blaze. You can use the more expensive ones if you need to burn money, 100k is the cap and ideally you want to enter with as close to 0 as possible. If you have mid players you can drop ballistas for them to help them do stuff. Meteor rain is good vs mobs and bots, not so good vs bosses.

If you have enough people though you basically always win without strategy, the attack boost you get for multiple players is allot.

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Also defusing, gold focus, and aegis breaking vs the bots is usually preferred than spamming a blue at them. They will parry you, and it will be very annoying since you only have 1 wep.

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Understand delay, the more players around you the earlier you will have to parry and defuse boss attacks. If you have a nasa pc you can ignore this, but if not trios(team) delay will affect you

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I have yet to attempt deadeye in heroes assemble, it might change things, especially with repair kit drops and coordination.

worldly moat
worldly moat
#

I think I did way more dmg

hollow herald
#

Since when showdown lets you choose the same character as your teammates?

fickle linden
#

start of the season

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in some modes

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doesn't work in peak or yama's abyss or speedrun

north lynx
north lynx
#

Tbh I wish we could use it in peak that would open up availability

fickle linden
#

they basically added it only for doom levels and storymode

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idk why

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for peak it actually would've been useful

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doom and story stuff you can just solo so you never borrow stuff to anyone

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i agree with devs on not adding it to yama's tho

balmy coral
#

It wouldn't make any sense adding the borrow system to yama

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Yama is considered as showdown endgame

fickle linden
#

yeah, naraka likes to usually do the nonsensical thing so this is refreshing

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lol

balmy coral
#

It kinda helped thou

north lynx
#

Yeah def not yama

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But not peak? Come onnn

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Feel like that's where we needed it the most

fickle linden
#

i don't know if they said about inferno yet, but it would be useful in there too

north lynx
#

These modes that require trios def needed that feature

fierce light
hollow herald
fickle linden
#

does anyone know where to find those new showdown defuse tutorials?

#

i left few undone because i got too bored with them, would like to finish em now

fierce light
fickle linden
#

but the button is not there anymore that i used..

fickle linden
balmy coral
#

But maybe so we can avoid some risk of running it

fierce light
#

Probably in Normal Inferno

#

Nightscream Inferno was slightly harder than Peak to full clear, so it would make sense.

fickle linden
#

hard to find anyone with decent build running normal version

#

so you are stuck borrowing trash builds then

fierce light
#

Yeah kinda funny

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All the places where you can use it, you'll likely find someone with a trash build.

sullen stirrup
fierce light
#

There's a solo queue for it

fierce light
#

Wow Musket has bad hit detection even in Rift

fickle linden
#

kylin + dns was sucha good combo for heng sword leveling 🙏

sullen stirrup
#

out

#

is tht where you get yingyang mastery from

fierce light
#

Yes.

#

I strongly recommend Ziping for soloing it.

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Kylin might be good too if you have his Thunder build.

sullen stirrup
#

yh ziping is for wen i dont wanna use my brain

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you should make another tierlist

#

u one is pretty old now no?

fierce light
#

This one?

elder hound
# fierce light

based on justina being listed as ice | bow, im assuming | means or, which leaves me wondering, which feria musket is which in the tier list

fierce light
#

Regular Deadeye Musket

elder hound
#

i guess that lines up with something i recall u saying previous about normal deadeye being good, but thunder counter was just more consistent

fierce light
#

Yeah, Thunder Musket is like a tier lower than Sweaty Deadeye Musket

viscid wraith
north lynx
#

I'm assuming sweaty valda musket is burn

fierce light
elder hound
#

the irony being i cant find a single cn video of deadeye musket

#

they love thunder counter musket so much

fierce light
#

They had a lot in early Yama's, Thunder Musket much more reliable though

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Especially with the bugged hit boxes

elder hound
#

real

north lynx
#

I'm still a bit confused on what you mean by flying musket, like repair walking off skill?

elder hound
#

for yama 5 right now, trying to get a weakpoint shot on phase 1's tail is so horrendous

elder hound
north lynx
#

And just 100% headshots?

#

Really I didn't even know that was a thing

#

You get a different move if you are in the air?

elder hound
#

ya so u can double jump or double jump into F skill to get in the sky and shoot head/weakpoint and it does feria's normal f2

fierce light
#

Doesn't have to necessarily be 100% headshots, but at least consistently hitting a weak point.

elder hound
#

where u backflip into the gun stance

#

u can shoot really fast and it chain spams the animation

north lynx
#

That's pretty cool

elder hound
#

it moves u backwards in direction away from where u shot, so if u are above the boss, it will keep sending u higher

north lynx
#

So it's like an infinite f skill?

elder hound
#

as long as u keep hitting weakpoint

north lynx
#

Does it do the naraka air time auto fall

elder hound
#

i was about to mention that i dont know if it has a air stall limit like normal naraka because i havent seen some1 get enough shots in a row

fierce light
north lynx
#

Oh I could easily do that

#

Tbh I can repair walk to keep airtime too I think

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Or sheathed swap

#

Sweet new tech

#

I'll have to lab it

elder hound
#

i only started doing it myself against this yama paragon 5 boss, but its weakpoints are super annoying to hit from the sky

#

in phase 1

#

i still dont repair walk, but sheathe walking into it is very viable

#

yama matron fight with the gust zones had a really nice setup for air deadeyes

#

found it

fierce light
#

It likely becomes less effective the harder it is to break the boss's aegis

thorn narwhal
#

man another nerf to kylin, he can't make a use of Sheer Momentum

fierce light
#

Makes sense, it isn't considered a Counterstrike

#

Unless you get Mighty Gale Blast

thorn narwhal
#

what does mighty gale alter exactly

fierce light
#

Hard to say if it's beneficial to grab

#

But it makes it shoot 3 gale blasts in front of you

thorn narwhal
fierce light
#

It triggers on parry

plain spire
#

My luck in looking for the one Bebu_cleanse

hollow herald
#

I use 2 mouse buttons to counter, but in the training for ranged weapon counters, only the G key works. This is a bug, right?

thorn narwhal
fierce light
thorn narwhal
#

not a perfect run whatsoever

#

but this mf is finally dead

fierce light
#

Hoping I can make some good progress on his build next week

thorn narwhal
#

yeah let's just hope this all doesn't change when curios are here Matari_Laugh

sullen stirrup
fierce light
peak finch
#

The build i used and potential

dusky phoenix
#

Is there a mode that gives lots of souljades?

peak finch
#

Enigma

dusky phoenix
peak finch
#

Anytime

thorn narwhal
peak finch
#

Thank you

fast scarab
#

which showdown character is the best?

rotund forge
#

Ziping

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Tessa

fast scarab
#

alright like

peak finch
rotund forge
fierce light
#

Justina is the current strongest, but that's after high investment (100% Moderation).

Ziping is the strongest with low to middle investment (0-75% Moderation).

fast scarab
#

Oh I see

#

thank you for the advice

zealous patrol
#

is it still thunder damage + attack?

#

or is the damage more on the ult

fierce light
#

Thunder makes up a small portion of Kylin's damage. Unlikely.

zealous patrol
#

so

#

we go non charged damage bonus?

#

or boss damage

fierce light
#

DMG to Bosses.

#

His ultimate does Charged DMG on the first hit and the rest are Uncharged. So they both end up rather bad stats.

zealous patrol
#

welp

zealous patrol
#

i do need a good thunder charge and elemental surge

#

the rest of the jades should be fine

peak finch
#

The build i used is thunder scorching, it is not kylin build @zealous patrol

valid schooner
#

I really need some tips on dealing with the Manticore AoE lightning bolts.

zealous patrol
#

I have a thunder lotus scorch from before

#

That I converted into a thunder set

#

I got 2 scorching is on storm stride and I do have an incineration with 2 scorching

#

Thunder parry and pull I have double windfall

#

So I still need to farm the two new jades

crimson cave