👾┃showdown

[cinder aurora]

Oh yes! thank you very much!

[quaint girder]

I don't think it will since it specified melee attacks if I'm not mistaken.

They will. As long as you get the crafting level for her Curio at level 1 at least, you can craft it during the next season

Basically you only miss out on Curios if you don't get the crafting level to at least level 1.

The reason is that Random Curio Crafting will remove the old Season's Curios with new Curios from the random crafting pool. ONLY

BUT if you unlocked Focused Crafting for a Curio you can just craft it again next season.

[fierce light]

It just mentions "Charged Attacks".

[hidden creek]

150% drop

75% drop

[fierce light]

RNG for ya

[hidden creek]

120+ rolls and 0 rare appears

this week is the worst

rngod abandoned me

[fierce light]

I got one in 3 rolls since the last rare, but of course it was on a jade I was just trying to get the basic attributes

[hidden creek]

ye

and then when you finally got a rare

and you think new rare won't pops that early

so you went to fix some jade by rolling the max attribute

guess what

rare pops in like 5 rolls from previous rare

[balmy coral]

[fierce light]

Yup, because of that I've only been using my guarantees to fix attributes

[peak finch]

Hi guys, is there any build that uses Element Rush? I feel like this souljade has a good potential this season.

[fierce light]

No, it's a downgrade from Quick Attack & Bolt Mastery for most builds.

Maybe if it gave 20% or more Attack it would be worth, but we already have plenty good ones in the +15%-18% range.

[fierce light]

75% Rewards lol

[fierce light]

https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1386166800437215283

[leaden mural]

@fierce light what’s the bow build? Was going to make a Justina ice one but seeing what’s out there currently 🤔

[leaden mural]

I see I see. Is poison the most/only really good and viable build for bow or could you do the same for Ice? 🤔

[fierce light]

All the arrow types hit for the same damage. The change to Element Surge though (+25% Poison Blast DMG), makes Poison the strongest.

[leaden mural]

Do you think this would be anything worth trying to build and run?

Successive, Frozen, Element Surge, Depths, Frost Arrows, Shattered Edge build into scorching and windfall?

On Justina specifically atleast

[fierce light]

Well that would be more of a hybrid build. It could probably work for Justina, but Scorching in particular doesn't work for Ranged Attacks.

Scorching without Thunderpull + Counter is usually bad anyway.

[leaden mural]

Ahhh okay. I didn’t know that as I only loosely dabble in SD

[fierce light]

With that build, it would boost the damage of Justina's Ultimate and she can charge it pretty fast with Bow. Hard to say if it would be competitive with the regular Frost Surge build.

I'd advise against any hero specific builds though until Curios come out

[leaden mural]

Hmm okay, I’ll keep that in mind. I can always lvl up the main ice jades and then when curios come out, go from there

[fierce light]

Yeah cause Tarka's dedicated build last season with his Curio was game breaking.

[leaden mural]

Was that the infinite fireball ult thing or something else?

[fierce light]

Yeah

[leaden mural]

I barely touched the curio stuff at the time but the new ranged stuff seemed cool haha. I wonder if they’ll bring out more ranged specific stuff then for curios or added jades

[fierce light]

Might get some new jades mid-season again.

Curios are likely to be focused on Surge and Deadeye. Aside from the hero-specific ones.

[quaint girder]

Unfortunately, there's no lore accurate Ice Bow Build that works well with Justina aside from Tabbie's build.

Bow currently doesn't rely on elemental damage. It relies on its raw DMG multipliers on Void Destroyer, Scattershot Enhance, and Elemental Arrows.

So you really want Desperation/Backfire because Backfire lets you drain health into Desperation and Desperation's 20% DMG buff applies to ALL damage

The Poison build unfortunately is a byproduct of Elemental Surge Toxin giving a flat 20% attack buff. We didn't give a damn about the poison element, but since we're running toxin surge we might as well max out the damage anyway

If Elemental Surge for the other elements gave the flat 20% then maybe other builds may work

But unfortunately Both Ice Surge and Thunder Surge only give 15% if I recall correctly

[leaden mural]

Damnnn that’s sad. Thought maybe I had something that might work well. So for now you just want to go raw dmg to have maximum efficiency otherwise you’re missing out then

[quaint girder]

Lastly, like Zero said, they buffed Poison Blast Damage on Poison Surge and buffed Elemental Fury on Potential

Giving you a lot of poison damage now

[quaint girder]

Yep spot on

[leaden mural]

Man if only my poison build from last season still worked into this build with my windfalls and moderation 😭 If you’re going all damage do you want just windfalls then on the bow build?

[quaint girder]

Yes but it's cheaper. Only 6x Windfall. One Windfall per SJ

Build looks like:

• 6x Attack
• 6x Ranged Attack
• 6x DMG to Boss
• 6x Windfall

With the buffs to stat recasting, it's actually one of the cheapest builds out there

Issue is that it relies heavily on skill. Three Deadeye users can erase a boss quicker than any other comp, but if the boss uses a bad attack pattern or one of the bow users messes up the run is ruined

Personally, I think the best team is Tessa Deadeye, Tianhai Infinite Stun, and Ziping for Accumulation and spot healing.

[leaden mural]

Yikes 😳 Okay so question about deadeye, do you have to hit the red circles weak points to process/keep it up or do you go for the head? Or does it matter at all? 🤔

Also what was the recasting changes? I noticed they added the smaller souljade fragments so I assume that makes it viable to get more rolls

[fierce light]

Musket is reliant on hitting weakpoints/heads to keep up Deadeye (the recent buff to Elemental Shots helps it though), but Bow mainly wants to just land shots from Void Destroyer. Which is the attack it does when you perfectly release the charge.

[fierce light]

Recasting system was reworked a few seasons ago. You can select individual attributes to reroll instead of having to do the entire jade everytime with another jade.

This the 3rd week and I'm already at 4 Windfalls with all the correct non-rare attributes. Just looking for one more Windfall and I'll start maxing the Attribute values.

[quaint girder]

I wish I had this luck. I just get scorching

[wraith field]

any one want play showdown EU

[drifting lance]

🎉 | لعبة المبنقين leveled up!
| Extra rewards were added for missing levels

[wraith field]

[fierce light]

Probably try #🐲┃showdown-lfg

[wraith field]

ty

[steep nexus]

same problem always get scorching haha i need windfall

[grizzled canopy]

yeah i mean they should give more reward or faster way to burn fatigue it take a lot to do like 1k8 lol

[river stratus]

imo 2400 take alredy too much time every week

[lucid ore]

I haven't done more than 2k since tempered inferno even with using a good amount of elixir

actually, I think my average is like 800 a week over the last few season beside the weeks with Tempered or event. Not that I'm competitive or anything so it didn't matter how much I grind I guess

[misty hound]

My god, I got 10 rare attributes since the season started and I got 8 scorching and 1 of the others two. My luck is terrible

What level of Nirritis is best to farm carved crystals?

[limpid pecan]

insane drop

at 100% reward

[sleek bronze]

lmao

[wanton kite]

Anyone help?
server: SEA
sense level: 1
showdown level: 4

[river stratus]

to get max fatigue usually take to me 2 or 3 days but still i wish it take less

[balmy coral]

Grinding after 1.4k fatigue feels so unmotivating.

Drops are so bad

[crimson cave]

doing anything with current drops is demotivating

is fun when there are challenges/quests

once they gone

pfff

no fun

[fierce light]

Yeah, instead of the catch up system, they should've increased the base drop rate.

Should not be possible to get all blues from a run.

[fierce light]

All the same, just run hard, it's the most time efficient.

Wish they would increase the fatigue cost of Nirriti's Ruins Nightscream and Legend.
Also, change the current Anima Rings and Blessings.

As listed in my feedback mega thread.

[hidden creek]

the whole fatigue and drop system need an overhaul

[amber terrace]

@balmy coral did u capped?

[north pumice]

Hola

I have a question mates why till now the new souljades I didn't like how they work but till now I only got 4 of them 2 epid and the first 2 legend the top one's

[fierce light]

On all missions except Normal difficulty, Blue Souljades are converted automatically to Small Souljade Fragments. 24 of them will allow you to do a Recast, so they are worth 1/12th of a Souljade Fragment.

[fierce light]

@quaint girder you making a Thunder build?

[quaint girder]

For Melee or for Ranged?

[fierce light]

Just saw you had one displayed, looks melee

[north pumice]

Glad I working on the lotus one's don't need the new one's

[peak finch]

you might check this bug, it is happening repeatedly.

[fierce light]

Yeah, bad spawn

Usually can get them with your skill though

[dusky sparrow]

@fierce light
Do we suspect that MAYBE on matari thunder surge will become viable in TI? Given the heavy aoe nature of it

I dunno if the projectile parries cleave crowds

I still wish they would find a way to keep older jades relevant, such as yushan shade

And bolt

[fierce light]

I wouldn't make one for such a niche case, especially before we see what the Curios are.

The projectile from Thunder Counter does cleave though.

[dusky sparrow]

That's fair.
I seriously.
Seriously hope they make thunder feel better because on melee it is dog po o p

[fierce light]

Hopefully they fix the ghost hits on Musket before then. Could run a Ranged Thunder Surge build then.

[dusky sparrow]

Would really love to see bolt or the yushan shade be meme-worthy by the very least

[peak finch]

Once I killed it with justina ultimate

[dusky sparrow]

YEAH
AND I HAVE BAD LUCK.
casually only gets 3 live hots out of a durability of 24 in nirriti

[amber terrace]

[fierce light]

Yushan Jade pretty much was a meme to use on Support Kurumi, but her Curio makes it unnecessary.

Bolts were mainly used as a placeholder on some heroes since it in a way increased the damage multipliers of their attacks. Like Feria and Wuchen in place of their Melee Element Jades.

[dusky sparrow]

Bolt on matari in nirritiri makes me giggle because of dread wail

[fierce light]

Main thing is that majority of the current builds need all 6 Souljade Slots and even the ones that don't, would scale better from an Attack Boosting Souljade due to their vertical scaling nature.

I think even in Nirriti's Ruins Bolt needs a buff.

[quaint girder]

I'm cooking with Matari for fun

Thunder Surge and Thunder Charge Builds are kinda weird. Only Tianhai really benefits. Basically if you go charge you're basically relying on CA/DT as your primary source of damage

And if for any reason the boss makes you whiff either part you just don't exist

[dusky sparrow]

They too slow atm.
And i hate it.
Tian Hai can do the needed burst so long as you f>parry>parry>parry which losing the window to dps gain from missing a parry for another f just sounds..... obtuse

Because the original loop was f>parry>riposte repeat

[quaint girder]

Yeah, Tianhai needs to be perfect and keep landing infinite stagger with that Vertical CA cancel double attack

For Thunder Charge

Honestly the best DT build RN is TLotus with Chain

Since Chain doesn't need surge to work apparently

Rares are probably 12 WF, but I like 4 mod on high accumulation characters like Matari and Yueshan

[dusky sparrow]

Yueshan feels more fun this season

[quaint girder]

Scorching could work, but you'd have to probably get HP and that potential for burn

[quaint girder]

I haven't tried him yet

But I'm still cooking

Been mostly trying to get my 4 mod on my Frost Chain/Chill Spike build for Justina

I know ILS has more DPS but I like how in Enigma the Lotuses don't randomly fuck up the boss timings

With Chill Spike

[dusky sparrow]

Mean time I am working on the bow build.
Tho
I should really just pool supplies till TI, see what's busted or do my own tests

[quaint girder]

But Justina with 4 mod on Chill Spike can definitely get 3 back to back dashes when she's not in Surge

[quaint girder]

Bow is pretty much solved unless you're going for an elemental sidegrade

It's Poison Surge Backfire/Desperation

Other Bow builds have difficulty getting close to the damage that it has

[dusky sparrow]

I am slowly assembling it

[quaint girder]

DT is awful on bow unfortunately. Countering DT is a massive DPS loss since you're not using Void Destroyer which has like a ridiculous 30x multiplier with Scattershot Enhance and Elemental Arrows

[dusky sparrow]

I just have a dedicated 3 to speed farm my fatigue in 2 days.

[quaint girder]

You doing this build?

[dusky sparrow]

the poison bow that @fierce light used in lobby with me and made me go. "WELP. I am useless"

[quaint girder]

This is the current build

[hidden creek]

it's not a ''poison bow''

[quaint girder]

I'm cooking Thunder rn, this is what I'm looking at

[quaint girder]

Technically not

Because you're right

We don't rely on elemental damage

[hidden creek]

calling it poison bow build is misleading

[quaint girder]

However, with Elemental Fury's boost plus Surge's new Poison Blast makes the poison deal a decent chunk of additional damage

[quaint girder]

You're right

[hidden creek]

lol we tested this build

but with ice not thunder

[quaint girder]

How did Ice work out?

[hidden creek]

weak

[quaint girder]

Sedge

[hidden creek]

lose to ILC

[plush grail]

can anyone help me here? I am still missing one Survival anima ring and have zero clue where or how to get it

[quaint girder]

Everything loses to ILC tbh

[dusky sparrow]

Bow is the primary
Poison is just. Kinda there from what I am seeing mid use. Thanks for that build BTW, it's nuts

[hidden creek]

survival boon
pick survival rings but don't let it reach 12, usually you stop at 9 for a chance for boon to appears

[plush grail]

ahh I see thanks

[dusky sparrow]

9 is the happy number

Get 9 and just sit on it, choose everything else

Is how I got them

The boons

[hidden creek]

more like everything lose to ice

the last time classic tpull spingcall was relevant was like what, 3 or 4seasons ago?

then the jades combo get used on scorching build, which is not a thunder build

then it's shit again

poison has always been shit since release

[dusky sparrow]

People are finally shaving run times down with ILC? or latest yama floors finally live long enough for it to pop off?

[hidden creek]

lastest yama floor is a mobs stage with the omen that make them immune to dmg when their aegis is up

[fierce light]

I went back and did the math on ILC's vs FS's Ice DMG. This time accounting for the stats that each build get at max build. It looks like FS is better in every situation right now for single targets.

Ice Interval

• time between Ice Blasts on average.
  FS
• Frost Surge
  ILC
• Ice Lotus Chain
  Diff %
• the percentage that FS is better or worse than ILC in Ice DPS.

Yeah it's saying that ILC has better Ice DPS for Ice Blast intervals longer than 5.5s (the case for most heroes other than Justina), but the increased Attack values would push FS ahead from non-Ice DMG.

[hidden creek]

idk if curio gonna change anything

but tbh

thunder and poison doesn't looks good

it's like they purposely make those 2 bad compare to ice

[fierce light]

Poison will be a little better from Elemental Accumulation Rate. We'll have to see how they interact with Surge state.

[quaint girder]

I think the crux of the issue is jade crowding

And Successive Ice Blast

[fierce light]

They likely did make the meta Ice (again), since they usually make the new hero synergistic on release.

[dusky sparrow]

Long and short, if I have skill issues somewhat and have longer fight. Surge better?

[hidden creek]

yeah but ice was at the top for like all the time

even during scorching meta

viper still run mod ice

[quaint girder]

Successive Ice Blast is kind of nutty gives us 3 elemental procs which pops Moderation and other things reliant on elemental procs. Frozen Blast just makes it easier to constantly pop it due to the CDR it gives to Ice Accumulation on Enemies

[hidden creek]

and before that ice is still on par with classic tpull

ice was never irrelevant

[quaint girder]

While DT we technically have 4 DT procs off of Thunder Accumulation, we have to counter which basically a self stun vs Successive you can still move

Additionally we have to sacrifice two slots: TPull and TCounter to get the rough equivalent of Successive Ice Blast

[hidden creek]

even tproof is a must now

[quaint girder]

Not even for the stagger resistance, it's just for the lowered threshold to pop DT on yourself

[hidden creek]

yes

[quaint girder]

So that leaves us with 3 slots already taken for DT

[dusky sparrow]

On chain/surge????

[fierce light]

Any Ice Blast interval longer than 8.33s drops off quite a bit for Frost Surge. So it is definitely less fault friendly.

[dusky sparrow]

I didn't need proof in my tests

[quaint girder]

Vs Ice's rough equivalent of 2 jades

[fierce light]

Yeah when they buffed so many heroes' Skills, likely to keep Moderation from being so irrelevant, it also buffed Ice the most.

[quaint girder]

DT has a bad inventory economy. We have to use 3 slots immediately for TPull, TCounter, and TProof for a self stun version of the two slot Ice Version of Successive Ice Blast and Frozen Blast without the self stun

[fierce light]

Yeah 25% faster charge is nice

[hidden creek]

funny shit is they made self-freeze defuseable by default
but on thunder you need 1 jade to counter it and 1 jade to not get staggered by it

like, bro

what even is this discrimination

[fierce light]

We need a Legendary version of Thunderproof, kinda like how Ice got Element Surge for Tundra Might.

[quaint girder]

So basically, they'd need to either do one of two things:

• Make TCounter innate like Ice Defuae
• Give TProof the ability to automatically reflect DT without the counter animation

[hidden creek]

i'm convinced that they're more than capable of ''fixing'' thunder and poison but THEY DON'T WANT TO

that's the thing

it's not that they ''couldn't''

[dusky sparrow]

This doesn't surprise me
A team on a project they don't actually have a passion for is too common in games like these

[fierce light]

Crazy that Toxin Blast still needs 6 stacks to activate

Poison is the worst scaling in Nirriti's Ruins cause only Poison Blast scales from Element DMG Bonuses

[hidden creek]

idk the reason behind it
but there's no way they couldn't see that thunder and poison is underperforming

and the recent buffs? changes nothing

imagine buffing poison blast dmg

by 15% lmfao

ontop of how much, 300%?

what the fuck is that 15% gonna do?

going from 300 to 315%?

[dusky sparrow]

Needs end of the equation 15% multiplicative to be relevant

[fierce light]

Poison been treated as a meme since it released by CN.

[dusky sparrow]

Instead of additive 15

[limpid pecan]

at this point i rather have them not touch balance anymore

i dont wanna refarm new build

every 2 weeks

[fierce light]

I've been keeping every jade I work on so far

So I'm not screwed much by meta shifts

[hidden creek]

everyone go ice, everyone get mods, everyone use characters with a skill that does good dmg

[fierce light]

But still would like Poison to be relevant for at least 1 season.

[dusky sparrow]

I must be bad at the game cause with poison wuchen I do better than surge justina.
(Inb4 I only have 1 mod and 2 windfalls on her set and his in total)

[fierce light]

Hmm

[hidden creek]

and they recommending thunder and poison to beginners

lmao

[fierce light]

Poison Lotus Surge might be meta though when Bell comes back. But literally only for Wuchen lol

And that's if they don't give him a Curio that wants him to use Ice

[dusky sparrow]

Yay. I invested heavily in the poison lotus last season for carrying my wifey in ti

(Always wanted a reason to main the fan boy, guess I have one)

[hidden creek]

to be fair

the safest option is to wait for curio

[fierce light]

Really hard to know without knowing what Curios are coming

[hidden creek]

cuz that thing changes everything

[fierce light]

And if they'll add mid-season jades again like Frostbound Lotus, Venomous Lotus & Thunderous Lotus

Funny enough even Frostbound Lotus got a buff since we don't have to use Tundra Might anymore

[hidden creek]

funny how last season if you want to compete for trio yama your team must have a tarka

with a build no one saw it coming

[fierce light]

[hidden creek]

just because of the curio

[fierce light]

I think new bow is competitive with that at least

[hidden creek]

inb4 ranged curios which make musket op af

💀

[fierce light]

Safest bet:

• Make an ILC and/or FS build.

Next option:

• Make a Bow build.

[hidden creek]

double the fire rate during deadeye? 💀

[fierce light]

Musket just needs it's ghost hits fixed and it'll be in a decent spot

High skill, high reward build

[dusky sparrow]

I am spread between ILC and bow atm

[hidden creek]

swarm curio that makes it empty its whole barrel in 2 seconds

💀

[dusky sparrow]

That would be too hilarious

That or remove the charge up and JUST unload it

[hidden creek]

tbh i think ILC or even old ILM is comfortable on peak

[fierce light]

I could imagine Swarm's Deadeye just being a mini-nuke.

[hidden creek]

so what's left is just yama

[dusky sparrow]

Add some of the ranged nirritiri as actual jades.
And fix so that per projectile landed there is a probability of repair, as opposed to needing to constantly short volley on swarm because only first shot procs "75%chance to repair"

[fierce light]

Crossbow turns it into a high DPS burst rifle

[dusky sparrow]

ILM?

sorry I only.
Maybe REALLY got into it last season

[fierce light]

Pistol pulls out a second one during Deadeye

[hidden creek]

ice lotus mod, last season meta build

[dusky sparrow]

I don't remember the full loadout

[hidden creek]

https://tenor.com/view/die-reaper-spinning-rotate-overwatch-gif-17444526

[fierce light]

• Successive Ice Blast
• Frozen Blast
• Elemental Lotus
• Ghastbloom
• Sub-Zero Seal | Frostbound Lotus
• Tundra Might

[dusky sparrow]

I could replace TM with surge and do better ya?

[hidden creek]

well currently just go for ILC

i'm just saying

that old ILM build is still capable of clearing peak imo

[dusky sparrow]

Peak?

[hidden creek]

so if you got a maxed ILM from previous season

can just run that

and wait for curio

[fierce light]

Tbh I do like the direction they took with Toxin Surge though. Repeated hits stack Toxins. But I think it should be uncharged attacks instead of only martial skills.

[dusky sparrow]

I never maxed it.
Only got the right jades lol

[hidden creek]

better just make every attacks generate toxified stacks

[dusky sparrow]

That would be great

[hidden creek]

cap them per 1second 2 seconds or something idc but just make all of them stacks it

[dusky sparrow]

Or at least 1 BLOODY element with 0 gimmicks

Inb4 I just make old backfire/desperation/surge combo

With the life steal up to 45% life hade

Jade

[fierce light]

No reason to really build ILM now if you don't already have it. ILC is its big brother.

I like that ranged builds brought back Backfire and Desperation, but I could see them eventually being replaced as they add more Deadeye focused jades.

Speaking of, we didn't get a single one, so it's likely to be what we get mid-season.

[hidden creek]

technically speaking backfire + desperation combo can be replaced by any jades that increase your attack

it's just that we don't have other jades/jade combos that does better

[fierce light]

Shattered Edge is likely to go first.

[hidden creek]

imo backfire desperation is kind of no brain lol

like

[fierce light]

Then probably Element Surge cause Desperation's DMG Bonus is hard to replace.

[hidden creek]

their synergy is just to each other

[dusky sparrow]

We do have the %+ on repair/use, no?

[hidden creek]

and then you shove it into a build

and that's it

[hidden creek]

in term of attack increase for 2 jades

can't get any 2 jades that synergize with each other and increase ur dmg by 40%

[dusky sparrow]

I just remembered seeing them back in the day, with the repair on defuse and use on something

[fierce light]

Defuse Aegis-Break

[dusky sparrow]

It seemed like the most convoluted idea ever

[fierce light]

But we already get that on Parries

I still have no idea how Ranged Blessing II works.

[hidden creek]

welp for bow we got 3 core jades that can't be replaced

so the other 3 we just go for whatever increase total output the most

[fierce light]

3?

[hidden creek]

3 or 2

oh yeah 2

[dusky sparrow]

Renewed vigor, desperation, and backfire?

[hidden creek]

nah

element arrow and scattered shot enhance

[fierce light]

Scattershot Enhance and Elemental Arrows the only 2 that're core.

Till we get more vertically scaling jades

Toxic Arrows only BiS right now cause of Element Surge

[hidden creek]

that's the main idea behind my bow build lol
i want to make a build that got more jade synergy

rather than just shove backfire and desperation onto it

but eh

[fierce light]

Yeah stacking stat bonuses seems to be the go to for builds without synergistic jades

[quaint girder]

Desperation cannot. It's a multiplicative bonus to ALL sources of damage. It's Damage+ not Attack+

That's why it's so strong. Unless they improve Elemental Damage on Ranged or straight up give us a DMG+ Jade for ranged only, Desperation will be difficult to replace

[fierce light]

Yeah Element Surge likely to go before Desperation.

[quaint girder]

Because the ATK+ can be easily replaced and the Poison Blast+ is a nice to have since we're building into Red Tree already, but doesn't constitute the majority of ranged DPS

[fierce light]

Toxic Shot makes Poison Blast activate in one shot without even aiming.

[quaint girder]

Lul

[fierce light]

It's handy on the current Yama's stage a little

Musket so buggy though jeez

[young ingot]

Hi, which essence do you recommend for fast clear in Nirriti?

[fierce light]

Ice for Justina, Thunder for everyone else.

[balmy coral]

No, 1.4k fatigue

[amber terrace]

lmao

[balmy coral]

I get catch up points 2/3 of my runs

[amber terrace]

noice

[balmy coral]

I might do some runs but normal key topaz

It's the same

[amber terrace]

i'm go nirriti only

[fierce light]

@hidden creek @quaint girder Lol they're using Thunder Musket with Thunder Chain. They're using the Chain Crush to recharge their Thundershock when Thunder Surge ends.

[remote rampart]

I need help getting the "Win 9 stars in the Doom mode" mission. I can't find a match.

[heavy gulch]

😁 anyone need help showdown

[remote rampart]

@heavy gulch I do, for Doom mode.

[fierce light]

What server are you on

[remote rampart]

I'm in the US @fierce light

2308300150164

thats my ID

[fierce light]

Okay

Msging you in a sec

[dusky sparrow]

Got your full 3? (I need to spend fatigue bad, am only at 210 spent)

I may as a fren invites for nitirris

[remote rampart]

I just joined with @fierce light

so far just us 2

[fierce light]

Just doing doom if you need that

[dusky sparrow]

Dark could DAMN NEAR fully carry you, if not hyper carry

The man is a BEAST

[remote rampart]

Thats good news! I think I only meet the first tier level requirement... im kind of newish.

[fierce light]

Just realized Doom brings your level down to 5 levels above the recommended.

[fierce light]

Sorry, my dad called, had to play with one hand for a second

[remote rampart]

@fierce light its all good!

@fierce light it says im still 7/9

I think its cuz that second one only got 1 star

[fierce light]

Ohh

We can redo that

[remote rampart]

@fierce light sounds good. would you also be able to help me get Yama's Abyss - Platinum 2?

[fierce light]

Depends how far it let's you go

[dusky sparrow]

Need a 3rd?

[fierce light]

We already started

On Platinum 2 now

[remote rampart]

@fierce light thats as far as itll let me go

[fierce light]

Yueshan pretty nasty on Frost Surge.

Yup

[remote rampart]

how do you get so strong?

[fierce light]

First you wanna get your Level up.

[remote rampart]

whats the best way to level up?

[fierce light]

Then you wanna work on one of the builds from here. Preferably one of the Ice ones or the Bow ones.

[fierce light]

You get 2.2 XP per 1 Fatigue you spend.

Nirriti's Ruins is a good bet though when starting out.

Lots of challenges to complete there that give you extra Potential Points.

[remote rampart]

okay gotchya. thank you for your help

[fierce light]

No problem.

[quaint girder]

Oh that's really neat. Basically close to 100% uptime on the buff

I guess DT may be comparable to our Raw Damage build then

[fierce light]

Doesn't look like they struggled much to get the next Thunder Counter if they missed their parry/counterstrike as well.

I think it takes into account your total damage bonus for 10x weapon attack thing.

With enough DMG bonus, you can set it off earlier with weaker attacks.

[zealous perch]

How you complete the “Fearsome Shot” challenge for 6k damage 1 shot??

[valid schooner]

Regarding the bow build, why don't you take the Element Fury from the Poison path? It says it increases attack by 12% while active, it sounds like a great addition for this bow build.

[fierce light]

Easiest is probably on Musket (Feria/Valda). Grab a bunch of the ranged rings and some that boost hit dmg.

[fierce light]

Element Surge doesn't activate on the Bow build, so it wouldn't do anything.

[frosty canyon]

how do i spend my catch-up points to turn them into souljades?

[fierce light]

You have to spend at least 600 fatigue. Then you can just click on it in the Weekly Challenge menu.

[frosty canyon]

ah okay ty

[quaint girder]

You need to poison yourself to be able to pop surge. The current poison build has no way of doing that without doing some weird Pestilent Pool build. I tried making a melee Musket poison build but it ended up being clunky and the damage wasn't comparable to the current iteration we have

[quaint girder]

Meaning this build is definitely dependent more on Elemental Damage than raw damage

Literally become a turret but one of DT instead of bullets

[fierce light]

Not necessarily, as Elemental DMG isn't considered for the Thunder Charge threshold afaik. You can also move around a bit since Incorporeal now applies to Ranged Weapons (ability to dodge after a Parry and still Counterstrike). I'll probably have to parse it, but it's looking like a no-Windfall build.

• x6 Attack
• x6 DMG to Bosses
• x6 Ranged Weapon DMG
• x6 Divine Thunder DMG

[quaint girder]

What I meant are the DT bolts you counter with Chain

Those are your primary source of damage it seems as opposed to raw headshots

[fierce light]

Hmm well just glancing at it:

x1 Thunder Charge Counter = 3.5x Attack
x1 Musket Counterstrike = 13.2x Attack (w/ Thunder Smash)

You'd need +391% Divine Thunder DMG to do the same amount as the boosted Counterstrike.

But there's still Thunder Chain that deals 21.42x Attack.

[elder goblet]

I haven't found any players in this level
Is anyone interested in playing with me?

[valid schooner]

@fierce light @quaint girder thanks for the answers guys, so elements don't matter at all if I want to do bow/musket only? Or can we somehow still squeeze out some elemental damage?

[crimson cave]

usually easy to find right after reset

[hidden creek]

that's not the point of what i'm saying

[elder goblet]

But now I can't find it haha

[dusk plover]

@fierce light did they screw with rewards again? This is at 100% no potion….. not even any catch up points

[balmy coral]

That's already a good drop

[fierce light]

2 Gold Jades = 8 Fragments
Average = 4.2 Fragments

So you're well above the catch up line.

[rocky lynx]

Heyo ! I have a question please ! I’m currently searchin the fastest way to reach the lvl 100 of this season ? 🙂 (i’m lvl 51). Thank you !

[fierce light]

The absolute fastest would probably be Nirriti's Ruins Normal. Takes about 3 minutes and consumes 45 Fatigue. You get ~2.2 XP per 1 Fatigue consumed, so that would be:

• 150 XP per 3 minutes at 150% Rewards.
• 100 XP per 3 minutes at 100% Rewards.
• 75 XP per 3 minutes at 75% Rewards.

The drops are pretty abysmal there, so I would recommend Nirriti's Ruins Hard instead if you plan on playing Showdown for the long term.

[rocky lynx]

Okkkay ! tysm for all the details

[limpid pecan]

tbh with justina ice build

nirriti hard is 3minutes too

xd

[fierce light]

Solo at least, I'm getting around 4-5 minute runs on Hard cause of the mob spread.

But yeah on Trios, managed to get 2-3 minutes even on Nightscream.

[limpid pecan]

im doing 3min solo with justina

almost every run

and duo trios some like under 4min

sometimes 3 min too

3 justinas probably has to end game instantly xd

[fierce light]

One of those things where controller has a disadvantage ig.

[limpid pecan]

i guess

key to fast clears is proper angles on F and V

so u hit very many mobs

some stages u can clear in like 3-5sec

[rocky lynx]

btw, is there recommended builds on the server please ? (concerning the perks). Cause I know which Qi I wanna play but idk for the perks. Thanks !

[fierce light]

Yeah, they're in the 📌 pins and on the guide site.

[rocky lynx]

Tysm !

[quaint girder]

Yes basically

[fierce light]

The Wielding type that Element Surge has matters, but other than that, not so much. Still would recommend Toxic Arrows | Toxic Shot since Element Surge will boost the damage of Poison Blasts slightly.

[proud sandal]

i need help with last boss of huanyna

she is one shotting me

any guide about her?

[fierce light]

She still has that one badly telegraphed AoE attack that can easily wipe a team.

Unless I'm still missing something.

[proud sandal]

she has so many aoe spell that killing me 😄

[fierce light]

Yeah i did manage a 3:13, but that was a combination of good spawns and lucky rings

Fastest was 2:46 on Nightscream Trios

[tranquil beacon]

What's the secret? 😮 I can only get 3-4 minutes if I get the skip to boss twice, which happens not that often

[limpid pecan]

justina and pick elemental rings with ice element

ur ult will melt boss before it moves out

on boss press F into double ult

and its done

[tranquil beacon]

Yea that's what I also been doing, boss fights are the quickest. All the other levels take time added up together

[limpid pecan]

take time to aim ur ult and F

to hit maximum mobs

[limpid pecan]

example build

basically just take elemental>money>lotus>ranged

and u bing chilling

[bronze bobcat]

Hi, how exactly the build "frost surge" in pinned comments work? Should i defuse the freezing thing?

[amber terrace]

[fierce light]

It requires [Moderation] +100% to be effective.

• Your first Ice Blast will build a large amount of Frostbite on yourself.
• Your second Ice Blast (if at more than 30% Frostbite) will attempt to freeze you.

• It's important to Defuse this if you're on anyone but Justina.
• Justina can use her Skill to exit the freeze, but best to wait till Ice Blast is ready again.

• For 25s after reaching max Frostbite, your Skills will summon Ice Thorns (once every 4s), dealing massive bursts of damage.

[bronze bobcat]

Thank you ❤️ So basically in other words when the thingy is above my justina use F? Or im totally wrong xD

[fierce light]

It depends. Use your F only against an enemy Ice Blast is ready on, so it'll activate [Moderation].

[bronze bobcat]

Thanks again

[fierce light]

So it looks like CN found the pity system for rares.

• Hard Pity: 151 Recasts
• Soft Pity: 95 Recasts

[limpid pecan]

btw i kinda wonder

would justina F have enough accumulation to get by without elemental surge?

or she will miss elemental accumulation for triggering boss blasts

[round sonnet]

another musket trick shot for a musket build

[fierce light]

With a Curio that has at least 15.5% Elemental Accumulation Rate, yeah.

[limpid pecan]

maybe thats a play for end of season

u can dump ele surge

and get something else

idk what tho

[fierce light]

With the likelihood that Surge is getting a Curio, that's unlikely.

[fierce light]

I'm confused, those are just Shoulder Shots. Slightly faster with the animation cancel, but Skyrender Shots hit almost 5 times as hard as Shoulder Shots.

[round sonnet]

I'm not quite sure about that either it feels like the damage hits harder when you're scoped in skyrender shot stance

[fierce light]

Yeah

• Shoulder Shot: 2.95x Attack
• Skyrender Shot: 14.00x Attack

Probably could get 3 Shoulder Shots off in that time, but good luck against a moving target.

Hopefully they do fix Musket's hitbox issues.

Actually, I guess that could be good with Elemental Bullet jades.

[balmy coral]

So at least 200 frags for 1 rare at soft pity ..

[fierce light]

Yeah

Can expect at least 1.5 guarantees

[river stratus]

@fierce light have you alredy parse a maxed bow?

[fierce light]

I still have to frame count the regular charged attacks, but it already has the advantage of uptime in Trios at least.

I switched over to Linux on my laptop so having to find alternatives

[lone umbra]

wowza drop at 75 % > 150 %

[balmy coral]

Release inferno for God sake

[fierce light]

Nah they should take their time, I want every hero to have a Curio this time.

[fickle linden]

i thought they would only release 2-3 new hero curios each season

[hidden creek]

inb4 only heroes that haven't got a dedicated curio gets one

[balmy coral]

I miss kurumi curio so badly

I'm dying

[fierce light]

I assume it's cause they gave us the Curio System earlier than planned

[fierce light]

Yeah she's feels bad without it.

[fierce light]

I doubt they would give Tessa, Kurumi and Tarka another one. Their old ones are plenty strong.

Tarka's might be nerfed though

[hidden creek]

idk i think they deserve it
like the first wave of curio is just for, yknow, testing purpose

but yeah

it's likely that tarka tessa kurumi won't get a new one

[fierce light]

I hope Tessa's works with Bow

Didn't think to test it, cause thought I wouldn't enjoy ranged

[hidden creek]

can't remember if it works with ranged or not

i think it does

but i'm not sure

but with how much rage bow build generate

you gonna need to spend alot of time casting your V lmao

[bright skiff]

Anyone to help me level up my showdown level ?

[hidden creek]

then charging for void destroyer again from stage 0

[hidden creek]

showdown level is like the last thing you gonna need help with
just run nirriti normal/hard

[fierce light]

It's pretty worth it, with the 4 fox version at least.

I'll have to go back and test when it's out, but pretty sure it was hitting harder than 4x the damage

[hidden creek]

i think after the rage ban duration was over you need like 2 void destroyers to gain 60% rage again lmfao

[fierce light]

Yup, going to be crazy

Would give her some more AoE as well

[fierce light]

But also, it'll apply to multiple Void Destroyers, if it does activate from Bow.

If not, just going to run whatever ranged Curio they add

[hidden creek]

we're not sure there'll be ranged curios
i mean, the whole deadeye system is not completed yet, we're still on the testing phase

with bow and musket

[bright skiff]

Solo?

[fierce light]

If not, I don't see any Curios working properly with ranged builds.

Probably just use them as stat sticks them.

Yang

• Attack
• DMG to Bosses
• Weapon DMG Bonus
• [Free Slot]
  Yin
• Luck
• [Free Slot]
• [Free Slot]
• [Free Slot]

[limpid pecan]

curios are dumb tbh

and the mega random nature in the ending of the season

feels nice to be screwed over for leaderboard run just becaue dumb curio rolls trash stats

[quaint girder]

Pin this, or add it to your website. Very useful.

[fierce light]

Here's to hoping they improve the system this time. There's too many Curios to go between.

[quaint girder]

meaning 302 frags for people with really bad luck

[fierce light]

Yeah, highest I've gone I think was ~260 Fragments.

[hidden creek]

i went through 2x 60 rolls and i'm 30 rolls away from the next 60

sooo i'm at 150 already

[limpid pecan]

i noticed also

sometimes if i have dry spell

[hidden creek]

0 rare

[limpid pecan]

long time

i get 2 very close together

after the dry spell

also justina is too strong for enigma solo

💀

cant even F small mobs in first half of game

as the dash insta kill them

without triggering ice blast

[hidden creek]

that's an issue

[fierce light]

Yeah feel that a lot in Doom

[hidden creek]

well for justina sub 3 mins enigma is totally possible

[fierce light]

John says he got 2:16, haven't seen a screenshot though.

[limpid pecan]

speaking of which

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1173036867881545768.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=IveGonePastThePointOfInsanity

i think on celestra map

she can go rly fast

[hidden creek]

you just stack up bosses and two Vs on them lol

and chain crush

[fierce light]

Crazy they gave it the scaling of Successive Ice Blast per tick.

[limpid pecan]

u can even hit 2 bosses with the same chain crush

[hidden creek]

and if that dumb venimere or whatever his name is don't spawn

[fierce light]

Omnious Bough with that slow fall yeah

[hidden creek]

yeah that one too but i mean the tree dude
sometime he aggro'ed the main boss early and make them jumped away from your V

[fierce light]

Going to feel awkward in Tempered Inferno

[fierce light]

Oh you mean that

[quaint girder]

So on incredibly unlucky account, a fresh set of 6x rares (one per SJ on a build) will cost 1812 souljade frags.

[hidden creek]

6x wrong rares

[quaint girder]

6x scorching on an ice build that needs 4 mod

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOO

[hidden creek]

i wish i recorded my reroll process which gave me 8x scorchings in a row on one fucking poison jade

[quaint girder]

JESUS

[hidden creek]

that vid deserve a pin on this channel

[quaint girder]

there needs to be a pity system for rares too :V

[fierce light]

Scorching good for this current Yama's at least

[hidden creek]

lol no

my guildmate did 9s on ice surge justina

[fierce light]

Honestly. Frustrated me so much spending 2 months missing 1 Windfall.

[hidden creek]

what if

they gives us pity for rares

and make it easier to get the rares you want

like you could even choose the rare to be what you want

but

they erase our souljades when new season comes?

[quaint girder]

monkey paw curling intensifies

[tawdry idol]

guys

whats the best way

to increase showdown lvl

[hidden creek]

i mean plenty of games does this
new season equipments will be better than old season
so you always have to farm for them

[tawdry idol]

i am on level 70

[quaint girder]

Spam Nirritis

And use Showdown XP Boost Items

That's literally it. Nirritis Hard is ideal because it's the fastest without sacrificing Souljade drop rate

[tawdry idol]

thank you

[quaint girder]

In other fun news, I'm only 132 doodoobrown keys away from hitting 0. Those keys are worthless, but I'm saving my Golds for Peak farming

[hidden creek]

or they could allow us to keep our sj while bring back souljade sense level
but this time souljade sense level is tied to the season and you can't upgrade them
so end game set of sj from previous season will be equal to new season meta sj set that doesn't have any rare

and is weaker than new season set of sj with right rares

[quaint girder]

Makes ranked more fair/competitive, but will definitely burnout casual/midcore players.

[hidden creek]

this way they still get people to farm for new season souljades while keeping the old jades relevant for a while
and the frustration of not getting a right rare is not as severe as current

[fierce light]

Not worth that trade off. Already takes long enough to make a build, that would just limit our build options severely for a bit more convenience.

[fierce light]

Wow, must've been farming a lot of Enigma

[hidden creek]

well i mean if they make right rares easily to get ofc

[fierce light]

I have like 700

[hidden creek]

or a pity system, or both

not with current rate of rares lmfao

[quaint girder]

I have, I know the rates are worse than Nirritis but I cannot stand farming that place anymore.

[fierce light]

It would have to let you choose when you get a rare at the current rates.

[hidden creek]

yeah even that

like

[fierce light]

More Fragments at least

[quaint girder]

yeah that's like at least 2 months of Enigma if you just use your fatigue for Brown Keys

[quaint girder]

yeah, that's my hope, I burn through frags faster than crystals

[hidden creek]

peak is next reset is it

[plush grail]

9th of july for peak

[hidden creek]

ew

[plush grail]

too far away tbh

[fierce light]

Yeah comes on an update

Gotta add the new Eerie boss mechanics

[hidden creek]

eerie huanyue gonna be 💀

[plush grail]

Nah Im good she can stay 1million miles away from me

[quaint girder]

yep, the brown keys I have will only last 2 weeks tops.

but that's enough filler time for Peak to drop

then I'm going to town with Gold Keys

I think this Season I can reasonably finish a DT build for Matari finally

[plush grail]

the brown keys? oh those

I forget they exist

[quaint girder]

Burnt down 250 to 130

[plush grail]

Huge

[fierce light]

I'm waiting for Curios to come back to use her again. Felt great being able to proc Ice Blast in 2 Aegis-Breaks

[quaint girder]

Still trying to figure out how to do DT on her where I can just clear

Not even for ideal times, just have fun but still be able to clear

Current build I have on display on my profile is the best I can do this season

Had to drop wielding which made me sad but at this point, wielding is not worth it until they add a weapon jade only slot

[fierce light]

Yeah even CN is expecting there to be a magic weapon (Curio) for Element Surge.

[fierce light]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV15XKvzxEjf/?vd_source=e436bcf4333345077b464ebf0fc7cf19
They're recommending to play DT like this:

• Parry 4 Thunder
• If Thunder Chain is ready, use your Counterstrike.
• If Thunder Chain is not ready, dodge and delay your Counterstrike.

Hmm the old effect of Musket's Elemental Bullets were that they increased the Elemental DMG taken by what you hit by 7% for the whole team.

[quaint girder]

Force multiplier. Was a weird gimmicky support build

[hidden creek]

in the clip they delayed the counterstrike even when thunder chain is ready tho lol

[fierce light]

Yeah depends on how fast the heroes Counterstrike is

[hidden creek]

yep

ps gs doesn't need it

other weapons does

[fierce light]

Interesting

[hidden creek]

or maybe running thunder essence make the cd longer?

tpull/counter/proof/chain, what's the last 2?

[wanton kite]

SEA: Nirriti's Ruins
ID: 10995700090168

[fierce light]

CN Fatigue Plan

0 - 600

• Topaz (Legendary Rune Key)
• Topaz (3-Boss Rune Key)
  601 - 1200
• Dangers in the Deep
  1201 - 1800
• Topaz (3-Boss Rune Key)
• Forest Peril (5 Chests)
  1801 - 2400
• Dangers in the Deep

-# Tags: Chinese, Farm, Grind, Missions

[hidden creek]

1200 fatigue for DITD?

https://tenor.com/view/throw-up-dry-heave-vomit-gross-eww-gif-23254758

[fierce light]

I guess that keeps you even on Rune Keys, but yeah that's a lot

They estimate it'll take 9 hours, but CN be fast, idk.

Jesus the amount of data they gathered

Not sure what Zhuo means

[quaint girder]

dang

I guess if you're hardcore and have basically are close to 0 rune keys

I can imagine running out. Topaz runs are basically 80 rune keys for one full week of nonstop grinding

As a casual who stocks up, I'm sitting on 260 Gold Keys, meaning in less than a month I'd run out

So yeah DITD runs make sense here if you're maximizing jades

[hidden creek]

crystal

[quaint girder]

Peak is still best when hunting rares it seems, but not as time efficient.

But that's all you're doing anyway when you're at Tabbie's/Dark's level

[fierce light]

Here's the full spreadsheet: https://docs.qq.com/smartsheet/DRGhsVlZVY3NDckFS?tab=tWPKof&nlc=1&viewId=v9Xxxz
Kinda rough translating this stuff since some of the names are changed when they're localized.

[plush grail]

why DitD though?

[fierce light]

Only chapter mission that can drop 2 keys.

[hidden creek]

you're telling me that they actually gathered the data from 3700+ peak runs?

[plush grail]

damn

[hidden creek]

💀

[plush grail]

https://tenor.com/view/mane-im-dead-gif-6502286207230651503

are these both keys or just doodoo one

[fierce light]

They have 519,438 fatigue's worth of data.

No way I can do ts.

Going to leave that up to them.

[hidden creek]

so they actually can tell if drop rate went worse

compare to like last week/last month?

[plush grail]

This honestly sounds like insanity to me KEKW

[hidden creek]

no shadow nerfs gonna slide under these guys eyes

[plush grail]

yeah Holy hell this guys knows all clearly

better start calling this guy The Professor

[hidden creek]

yea no, no way i gonna try to understand these

first 600 for peak and rest for nirriti or whatever idc

that's it for me

[fierce light]

Yeah they track the date each data point was entered 💀

DITD shouldn't be as bad with Justina being a thing at least

[plush grail]

even a rough translate is hard to understand

[hidden creek]

we should be thankful

since the devs only listen to CN players

and there's someone who's doing all of this

[plush grail]

just used my phone to throw it in English and I cant understand it still

[hidden creek]

they actually got the data to back it up

when they bring the issues up

[fierce light]

I'm still trying to figure out what some of these mission names stand for. The only mission ik of that has 5 chests is Forest Peril, but they have two listed.

Some reason all of the data in regards to the effect of Luck is listed as an error.

[hidden creek]

i think i can translate them but i'm too lazy for that

[wanton kite]

SEA, AS LFP Nirriti's Ruins
ID: 10995700090168

[lone umbra]

Do it for the sweet community

[hidden creek]

the site doesn't even load fast enough for me lmfao

and there's no way i gonna scan these text from a pic to then attempt to translate it

[lone umbra]

Lmao

[lone umbra]

Nah bruh just kidding it is too much to understand

[fierce light]

I've been using DeepL, ChatGPT, Deepseek, and Google Translate. Similar words, but still different results.

I'm surprised by the lack of OCR Translators tbh.

[hidden creek]

can you copy the word

[fierce light]

Which one?

The mission types?

[hidden creek]

whatever you're trying to translate

[fierce light]

Here's the written text part:

•选图建议
|数据来源：函 征神周报
1. 常规方案（包含周任务收益：20琢玉晶+45白菜）
预估收益：274琢玉晶+524白菜，预估时间：8.9小时。总重铸262次
第一档黄玉金票
第二档静水流深
第三档黃玉3boss
第四档静水流深
2. 幸运套方案（包含周任务收益：20琢玉晶+35白菜）
预计收益：270琢玉晶+513白菜，预估时间：8.5小时。总重铸256次
第一档黄玉3boss
第二档静水流深
第三档木一5宝箱
第四档静水流深
3. 材料失衡（只刷琢玉晶或白菜）
参考田 征神周报-爆率可视化的“各档位暴率图”，根据某一种材料来安排选图
4. 疲劳刷不满（不考虑疲劳消耗，只关注同时间获取更多的收益）
参考田 征神周报-爆率可视化的”效率视角爆率"，根据缺少材料来安排选图
5.玉没凑齐需要刷玉：查看 魂玉百科的“掉落关卡”去刷对应的图

Crazy, I can have this many tabs open on my cheap laptop thanks to Linux and have no lag/stutters. Windows 11 is so 💩

[hidden creek]

looks like it's a comparison between normal setup and luck setup

琢玉晶 = crystal
白菜 = sj fragment

黄玉 = topaz

金票 = gold key

静水流深 = DITD

[fierce light]

Do you know what the mission it's talking about on the bottom-right blue one?

第三档木一5宝箱 <- This one

[hidden creek]

it's this one

[fierce light]

Okay so it is Forest Peril.

Sounds even more frustrating to run than DITD tbh.

[hidden creek]

but i'm kinda confuse about the 5宝箱 part

like you gotta open all 5 chests or what

you get more materials that way?

[fierce light]

Likely the most Souljades from a Chapter Mission.

[heavy gulch]

anyone showdown need help

[hidden creek]

🤔 i didn't know that

[fierce light]

Other one's have 3-4 Chests.

[hidden creek]

lmfao i always disable my fatigue consumption on doom/speedrun

so i don't even know you get sj from those chests

[fierce light]

Iirc they're guaranteed to drop at least one.

[hidden creek]

ahhh

makes sense now

but

the thing is

they said 木一

木 (wood) alone referring to the stage already

[hidden creek]

so 一 (one)

[fierce light]

Curious if they're not defeating the boss?

[hidden creek]

does it means that you only open 5 chests then leave?

[fierce light]

I should probably watch the full video.

[hidden creek]

that's what i'm thinking also

[fierce light]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1DrN8zeErK/?spm_id_from=333.1387.homepage.video_card.click&vd_source=e436bcf4333345077b464ebf0fc7cf19

[fierce light]

Nice stockpile.

[fierce light]

Probably better to ask in #🐲┃showdown-lfg

[hidden creek]

木一 probably means ''forest peril 1st stage''

so no boss

to save your fatigue

[fierce light]

Makes sense

Wow they're still running Desert Tribulations.

6 hours for 600 fatigue?! Oh hell nah

[hidden creek]

💀

[plush grail]

why does that name sound familiar

oh

I mean at least its not Immovable

I dont like that mission HAHA

[fierce light]

Yeah Immovable's drops are too inconsistent anyway

[hidden creek]

next time forest peril appear on doom imma try farming that

[lone umbra]

6 hours 💀

[plush grail]

I assume for that one what you just go in open chests then leave or something perhaps?

or like do you die until fail

[lone umbra]

It just went last week i guess

[hidden creek]

yeah i think so

[fierce light]

• 琢玉品/600疲劳（平均值）
• 白菜/600疲劳（平均值）
• 白菜/幸运套600疲劳（平均值）
—综合收益分（平均值）

Do you know what the 1st 2 mean?

[hidden creek]

cuz last week i rmb shooting the 4heads with bow

[fierce light]

I'm assuming the second is Carved Crystals, but it's translating to Cabbage lmao

[plush grail]

lmfao

[hidden creek]

it's sj fragments

crystal is 琢玉晶, or 琢 for short

[fierce light]

They mentioned a Luck set increasing something by 30%.

Not sure how much Luck is in a "Luck set" though.

[hidden creek]

yeah they just said luck set

[fierce light]

Guess that confirms it only affects Souljade Quality.

[hidden creek]

is it safe to assume it includes 2 luck jades and 500 luck + at least one wf on each jade?

[hidden creek]

the word indeed means cabbage ig it's like a madeup term

like in our language we sometimes call sj fragments bamboo leaves

cuz yknow, it looks like bamboo leaves 😂

[plush grail]

I never thought of that LMAO

[fierce light]

Crazy amount of Luck you can decide to go for tbh. No idea.

Hmm

So they have:

• Wood One
• Wood One Card Fatigue
• Miraculous Wood One

They must all be Forest Peril, but I'm confused on what this Miraculous word is all about.

Since they include the Lucky Set in the other 2 types.

[plush grail]

maybe Elixirs ?

[hidden creek]

''miraculous wood one'' probably means doom

[plush grail]

oh that too

[fierce light]

Ohhh

Okay that makes sense. No longer confused now.

No wonder they have such limited data for it.

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV12moFYFEJJ/?vd_source=e436bcf4333345077b464ebf0fc7cf19
So Forest Peril consumes 9 fatigue when leaving before boss. 15 fatigue normally.

[hidden creek]

there we go

so that's the tactic huh

[fierce light]

If you leave before boss though, then no chance of Crystal or Key.

[hidden creek]

that's why they still include DITD in the rotation

and usually fragments is the issue not crystals

hmm but isn't it DITD also got 4 chests?

[fierce light]

They don't include any Nirriti's Ruins, so I could see Crystals becoming an issue.
Nevermind, DITD does have a decent rate.

I'll have to look at the chart

[fierce light]

Yeah, 4 chests.

[hidden creek]

🤔

oh well

[fierce light]

Oh dang, DITD has a better rate than Nirriti's Ruins for Crystals. Worse for Fragments.

[hidden creek]

lol

but it gonna take alot longer tho

[fierce light]

Definitely.

[hidden creek]

and people are already complaining about nirriti not consuming fatigue fast enoughh

😂

CN players are built different huh

[fierce light]

I'll only worry about it when I get low on Legendary Rune Keys again.

Going to be all Tempered Inferno again when that comes out.

[hidden creek]

ye

[plush grail]

CN players are true gamers

I could never sit there every time drain my fatigue each week

i would go crazy

[amber terrace]

[amber terrace]

imagine they grind to 30k-40k pts asura in ranked

[plush grail]

https://tenor.com/view/hoodwinked-hoodwinked-too-slap-gif-23733043

[fickle linden]

https://tenor.com/view/musediet-spongebob-crazy-laugh-gif-14337867720066930731

[balmy coral]

I'm on 4.9k and so done already

Just waiting for the chests

[balmy coral]

Indeed.

[fickle linden]

im still 4k haven't played ranked in atleast a month

there is still 2 weeks left for this season?

i have 10 more chests in ignis for guaranteed legendary drop so might have to grind last 500 pts

unless some event gives me 3

[amber terrace]

i'm lazy to play, so still 3k5

[fickle linden]

if there were no rewards i would never play ranked in this game

[balmy coral]

I stopped months ago when I started showdown

[balmy coral]

The new updates got me done bad 0 motivation

[balmy coral]

Same

[fickle linden]

hopefully they cook something interesting in anniversary update

[balmy coral]

I'm the type to grind right after reset so ye since lobby is quite busy after reset

[fickle linden]

and add more servers (0.00000001% chance)

[amber terrace]

yea

[fickle linden]

i haven't played PVP at all until today since they added every daily to be possible to do in showdown

noticed today that the 7 sword thing is still in the game from that kids show collab 👀

[balmy coral]

I don't like the last circle

and since my duo wont likely play next season I might give up at all.

[fickle linden]

yeah i swapped from duo to solo when my friend quit the game

and it's way less fun 💀

[balmy coral]

I just get mad at solo whether the situation and get bored af

Even thou I'm better at solo

[balmy coral]

It's exhausting af

[balmy coral]

I'll be on palworld then go back to showdown this weekend

[amber terrace]

bruh, i don't play palworrld

[balmy coral]

It's time to play.

[amber terrace]

[fierce light]

@river stratus I did the parse:

• Includes a reload at Void Destroyer number 34, and 16 extra Void Destroyers after the reload.
• Assumes you have ~8.4% Deadeye build rate to activate it in 3 Stage 2 Charged Attacks.

[amber terrace]

[quaint girder]

Lmao

Bow is still broken

[river stratus]

nice thx!

now i'm wondering if justina can do more or less

[fierce light]

I got her stuff in, can do it in a bit

[rotund forge]

anyone can help with windswept wasteland and doon 12*

[river stratus]

away from pc rn, tomorrow i can tho

[fierce light]

Okay I did Justina 's:

Important to note, although she has a lower theoretical maximum than Matari and Ziping, it's much easier to attain it. Less than 10% of her total damage output is from her Melee Attacks.

[quaint girder]

Justina go nyoooom

I can do 3 Shadowswipes with 100% mod in a row after I accumulate Frostbite

[limpid pecan]

also she gets mega value from ult accessory

works on both F and V

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1175185005815803946.png?size=160&name=TessaGasm

[fierce light]

Yeah that's also without including her Ultimate and the buff she gets from it

[limpid pecan]

she gets buff from ultimate?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1173036867881545768.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=IveGonePastThePointOfInsanity

every day i learn something crazy about justina

[fierce light]

Her Aegis-Break and her Defuse Counterattack hit 2.73x harder during her Ultimate.

[balmy coral]

There should be a discount this month for it

I'm 600 gold short it's too expensive at full price

[quaint girder]

Yeah, that Ulti accessory looks amazing with my Winter Rose outfit

[balmy coral]

Justina's Post ult clarity face

[crimson cave]

you can get 50% off in lunar

[balmy coral]

It's not included there.

I have that one already.

[crimson cave]

ah ok

[summer ridge]

Ahhh I haven’t been on naraka

Catch up time

I only used 30 fatigue

[round sonnet]

#👾┃showdown message

[balmy coral]

Now that I think bout it bow build is not expensive

I'm just hesitant on Frost Surge build

[fierce light]

I got decently lucky on the Windfalls for Bow build, just need one more and I'm ready to start maxing attributes. This reset will be my 3rd week working on it

I would recommend Toxic Shot over Quick Attack. Deadeye management is a nightmare otherwise.

[limpid pecan]

somehow i was able to get my frostbite chain and elemental surge

with all windfall/moderation

not a single scorching dud

kinda crazy

now im considering chill spike + depths blast

for justina

[fierce light]

Reset is <t:1750881600:R>, good luck.

[limpid pecan]

is it even better than lotus+chain crush?

feel like lotus does some good dmg

and its good for farming too

it kills archers on roof etc

[fierce light]

Against single-targets, yeah

[limpid pecan]

a tad annoying it spawns bosses sometimes too early

[fierce light]

ILC is better for mobbing/multi-targets though

Where you can activate consecutive Ice Blasts faster than 4s.

[balmy coral]

Justina mainly yess

Other heroes it depends

[amber terrace]

[carmine basin]

Does potential tree take effect in Ruins?

[hidden creek]

no

[quaint girder]

Burned through all my Fatigue before reset on Brown Keys. Super please I got 100% mod on FS build on Justina

she goes nyoooom

3 dashes back to back on a boss, thats a lot of damage

[limpid pecan]

at this point she needs a racing outfit

[quaint girder]

nyooooooooooooooooom

[limpid pecan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1181207355304722502.webp?size=48&name=JustinaCyberpunk

[fierce light]

Just realized they didn't make Overlord & Focus Slide Commemorative Jades.

[fierce light]

3?

[quaint girder]

I don't know the timings, but basically when you use your first dash when you're about to fill your Frostbite meter, Ice Blasts procs, refreshing your F as you Frostbite starts. Dash immediately again. After the dash you should freeze then you can dash one more time

[hidden creek]

it doesn't do that much dmg tbh

[fierce light]

Interesting, I'll add that to the parse, although, you'll still likely want to delay the 3rd dash.

[limpid pecan]

but you go nyooooooooooooooooooooooooooom

[hidden creek]

well that's true

[fierce light]

Her Skill hits decently hard

Around the damage of Successive Ice Blast with 75% Ice Blast DMG.

[hidden creek]

1st F proc ice blast so you get your F back, also you're about to enter surge state
2nd short F to does damages and stops before you enter surge state so you're not immune to freeze
3rd F from justina own kit, she get her F back if she gets frozen

[fierce light]

Getting frozen felt kinda useless before with Moderation, but it makes it useful

[hidden creek]

lol you don't know about this tech?

i thought everyone knows already, this is what justina players uses to fast clear the yama stage with ominus bough being the boss

[fierce light]

I knew the Chain Crush tech, but didn't think of this one

Sounds useful in Ruins as well

[lone umbra]

what yo mean by short F?

[hidden creek]

dash through target then AA

or hold

or jump

to stop it midway

[lone umbra]

ahh

i thought something different

[hidden creek]

if you let the dash travelled max distance, surge state may comes when you're still on your F

and it makes you immune to freeze

so you won't get your F back

[quaint girder]

Only on bosses doe, on mobs its kind of useless because mod basically gives you infinite dashes with each proc of successive ice blast on a different mob

this tech is boss/single-target specific

[lone umbra]

ahh so you dont want to wait for ice blast CD just F again on short distance and freeze yourself to get f back, right?

[hidden creek]

yee

you proc ice blast with 1st F already
so when you F 2nd time ice blast is still on cd
so you want that self freeze to get your F back

an in order to do that you must not be in gold focus state

then get frozen, wait abit for ice blast cd then F again

[lone umbra]

yeah got it

[fierce light]

I got 17s with Justina on that Omnious Bough one. Didn't stress getting faster though since I was managing 13s with half-built Bow.

[hidden creek]

you kinda trade a moment of vunerability (getting frozen and wating for ice blast comes off cd) for 1 more F

[lone umbra]

was kinda doing that only

[quaint girder]

I just F immediately bc I felt like a racecar

[fierce light]

Well against mobs, I was just spamming dashes anyway.

[hidden creek]

too fast you lose your F tho lol

[limpid pecan]

consider also

[hidden creek]

if it doesn't proc ice blast cuz ice blast is still on cd

[limpid pecan]

u can do extra short F

[quaint girder]

19 second cooldown kinda sucks u rite

but nyooooooooooooooooooooooooooommmm

[limpid pecan]

when u activate chain crush

[fierce light]

Yeah, i knew that tech already

[quaint girder]

Are those still a thing? They're not faded?

[hidden creek]

mostly useful in yama for that 1 sec cut ig

other than that ehh

[fierce light]

They're still in the common drop pool unfortunately

[quaint girder]

o i c

[fierce light]

Dang, now I got to frame count the time it takes to be frozen lol

[hidden creek]

justina F sometimes cause fps drops for me so f that sht

🤣

won't risk losing my F cd

[fierce light]

Well guess it doesn't matter, you're going to have to wait till Ice Blast is off cooldown to do anything else anyway

[hidden creek]

ye i mean if you can consistently pulling it off then sure but remember that one mistake gonna make ur F on cd

then you have to proc ice blast with just weapon attacks

to get your F back

that's dps lost

[limpid pecan]

just go nyooooooooooooooooom

[hidden creek]

also i swear they make bough doing his floating move to avoid ur skill

🤣

like sometimes the moment i pressed my F he does it

[quaint girder]

just aim ur V vertically, super straight V right there