👾┃showdown

[cursive fable]

@balmy corali can't imagine spending all 2400 fatigues in peak

that would be 80 runs lol/ 40 runs with fatigue potion

[hidden creek]

usually people just spend first 600 fatigue on peak with gold key

[lone umbra]

Peak is supposed to be played for first 600 imo

[balmy coral]

Forgot to mention

[hidden creek]

after that it's whatever

[lone umbra]

This

[cursive fable]

oh true

you get around 3x the mats in peak right?

[balmy coral]

Grinding is painful until inferno opens

[cursive fable]

compare to doing nitirui ruin

[hidden creek]

nah mostly because of the gold key luck

so you stack 3 of them you got 9k luck whole pt

then with the 150% drop buff

[lone umbra]

Yeah 6k luck with 3 gold key and yin yang synergy

[hidden creek]

from first 600 fatigue

[balmy coral]

Does 2k luck

[hidden creek]

it's also the most worth to use elixir on

[cursive fable]

how many leafs can you get from the first 600 fatigue

like 400 leafs?

[balmy coral]

From yin yang luck stack with it?

[hidden creek]

still depends on ur luck lol

[lone umbra]

About 400-450 i guess

[hidden creek]

9k peak could gives you like 12 gold jades per run

[cursive fable]

ya bro

[hidden creek]

or it could be 0 gold

lmfao

[cursive fable]

thats nuts

i think people average 400-450 leafs

400-450 leafs is like 2400 fatigues in nitiruii ruin

[lone umbra]

Peak is best for farming frags

[balmy coral]

What were your drops so far?

[hidden creek]

old farming method was:

• first 600: gold key peak party, if you got elixir pops it
• next 1200: nirriti, or topaz
• last 600: danger in the deeps to farm gold keys

idk if it changed, i think it's still the same

[amber terrace]

@balmy coral nirriti ruin hard?

[balmy coral]

Drinking

Maybe later

[lone umbra]

I usually got 400-450 frags gold key runs

[amber terrace]

ok

[balmy coral]

Nice

[amber terrace]

2k4 all in Nirriti ruin hard =))

[cursive fable]

ya its fast

[balmy coral]

You're a maso

[cursive fable]

i finished in 2400 fatigue in 4 hours

with fatigue potions

[balmy coral]

I WANT INFERNO BACK PLS

[amber terrace]

wtf how

use exilir?

[cursive fable]

ye

[balmy coral]

💀 did u buy the two set of elixir?

That's 20 elixir

[cursive fable]

ya i bought both elixir potion package

[balmy coral]

[crimson cave]

crazy

[cursive fable]

im almost done with the build tho,

[balmy coral]

That's 2.4k gold

[cursive fable]

ya

[amber terrace]

u'r rich

[balmy coral]

Well I get that

[balmy coral]

You're not one to talk

[cursive fable]

nah im poor

but i cant stand up farming like 4 more hrs

[amber terrace]

lmao why

[crimson cave]

after 2 elix packs yeah go broke

[balmy coral]

500k collections + star

[amber terrace]

bruuh

[balmy coral]

[cursive fable]

tempered infero would be insane

1 elixir = 450 fatigue lol

[balmy coral]

We're used to that after years of experience

[balmy coral]

When inferno opens u get to spend 2.4k fatigue in one day even without elixir

[cursive fable]

i think tempered inferno frag wise

its similar to nitirui ruin

but much faster/easier

[balmy coral]

No it's better somehow

[cursive fable]

tempered inferno is brainless too

basically just stand in the middle and afk lol

[balmy coral]

It needs 75 fatigue per run so u get a decent jades if u are lucky

[cursive fable]

ya

do you guys burn 2400 fatigue every week?

[balmy coral]

Yah

[cursive fable]

i feel like if your RNG isnt that terrible

u can get 6/6 best jade in couple weeks

then the setup will remain best for like the next half year

[balmy coral]

mmmm

[full idol]

whats the fastest way to increase showdown level

[amber terrace]

@balmy coral i'm gonna eating, tag me when go

[balmy coral]

Okee

[cursive fable]

@balmy coral i feel like

after tempered inferno releases

people will spend all 2400 fatigue in inferno

lol

[amber terrace]

Go nirriti ruin

[balmy coral]

Yes absolutely like last season

[amber terrace]

That sure

[cursive fable]

no one would care about the extra min-maxing frags from peak

[amber terrace]

For curio in last month

[full idol]

ok thanks

also how do i even upgrade jades

[balmy coral]

If u have a team it's a good option but curious were peak last season

[full idol]

i swear this used to be a thing

and now i cant find the place

[balmy coral]

and I assumed most had complete build already

[amber terrace]

They remove lvl jade

[full idol]

bruh

what

[amber terrace]

Instead lvl season

[cursive fable]

@amber terrace what star do you have

[amber terrace]

What star

U mean skin?

[cursive fable]

@balmy coral i feel like im just gonna get burnt out before inferno

@amber terrace ye

[amber terrace]

All star

But sell all

[balmy coral]

Lmao no

[cursive fable]

like if i have 4 mod 8 WF

[amber terrace]

Only katana now

[full idol]

then whats the numbers on the jades for

[amber terrace]

4 star 3 red

[cursive fable]

like if i have 4 mod 8 wf 30% ice 4% attack on all my 6 ice jades

[amber terrace]

That is rate jade score

[cursive fable]

am i farming more frags just for next season?

[full idol]

does it affect anything

[cursive fable]

@amber terrace niceee

[balmy coral]

Most of em did

[cursive fable]

kurumi main in pve?

[amber terrace]

Recast it

[full idol]

uh

ok

[cursive fable]

@balmy coral ya i feel like if i have everything farmed up for next season

doesnt that take all the fun away

lol

[amber terrace]

Yea i like play kurumi

[balmy coral]

The good thing is that every season a new meta gets introduced

It's like ranked

[full idol]

wait which is recast

the left or right

😭

[cursive fable]

@balmy coral successive iceblast/frozen blast was last seasons best too

[full idol]

nvm ill switch language

[cursive fable]

so 2/6 jades were the same

[amber terrace]

I play ice build since mama ning release

[cursive fable]

viper ning?

[amber terrace]

Yushan

Boss

[cursive fable]

oh yaaa

i forgot haha thats the lore

everyone wants star-longsword lolll

since justina is played 100% of the time now in pve

[amber terrace]

Star longsword not good skin for me

Ugly

Same star staff

[cursive fable]

ya ,pvp wise , katana/longsword/greatsword/spear all garbage weapon

only staff/nunchunk are good pvp meta weapons

[amber terrace]

Katana still good in pvp

Shift dash atk still make bit stun

Staff/spear i use jump + right click

[amber terrace]

[cursive fable]

iwas checking the staff for NBPL solo -finals

lol people hate greatsword

it does less damage than fist in tourneis

[amber terrace]

Ya but I'm play trios

[hidden creek]

the purpose for gs to exist is for you to turn it into ps

[amber terrace]

Stun is good for teammates

[cursive fable]

@hidden creek ya i wonder why is polesword so much better

mainly you can walk while charging Right click?

[hidden creek]

nah its whole move set is better

still hard af to use though

[crimson cave]

overcomer has a fun animation

[balmy coral]

I only used polesword in ranked matches. It's 100% better used against players than pve

[drifting lance]

🎉 | AlexInLights leveled up!

[balmy coral]

Basically, bait and switch

[hidden creek]

none of the pros actually prio ps before the kelie accident happens

[amber terrace]

@balmy coral go?

[hidden creek]

dude single handedly force the whole lobby to go for ps

[balmy coral]

Drinking still

[amber terrace]

you're drinking so long

[balmy coral]

Ps is fun in ranked

[amber terrace]

what do u drink

[balmy coral]

[balmy coral]

beer rn just to get the high

[amber terrace]

[balmy coral]

I want whiskey but no motorbike to go out

[crimson cave]

what country ur in

[balmy coral]

A country where food is cheap but PC parts are expensive asf

[crimson cave]

thats any sea country

exept sin

[balmy coral]

I want to go to Singapore

[crimson cave]

i just came back from there last month

i hate it tbh

auper expensive with nothing to do

only go cuz its close and they got concerts

[balmy coral]

But Food

Variety of Food

[crimson cave]

idk im in bangkok...

[balmy coral]

I'm slender I can't eat too much

But I love food

[crimson cave]

we have like all the food in the world

and its cheap

[balmy coral]

Just that

[amber terrace]

oh u wanna go to me

[balmy coral]

I hate indian foods

[amber terrace]

haha

[balmy coral]

Too flavorful too many spice

[crimson cave]

my fav is korean

then chinese

[balmy coral]

You're in Sg?? Damnnn

[amber terrace]

sg

[balmy coral]

I can't eat spicy foods anymore

[crimson cave]

they have non spicy too

i got tired of spicy stuff in thailand too

[balmy coral]

I loved kimchi

EVERYDAY

[crimson cave]

thats the one I always hated LMAO

[balmy coral]

But then my stomach is weak

[crimson cave]

but i don't like veggies

meateater mostly

[balmy coral]

BRO WTF

I love vegetable salad

[crimson cave]

i can eat some

but most of them like never

caesar yes give it to me

[balmy coral]

Yess

Caesar salad always a win

[lone umbra]

why bro?

[crimson cave]

broccoli please keep that stuff away

[crimson cave]

HAHAHA

[balmy coral]

I had biryani

[amber terrace]

they use hand on all

[balmy coral]

My mouth was burning

[crimson cave]

what about Mexican

[balmy coral]

I haven't had except tacos

[crimson cave]

first time i been to Mexico ingot lost and there were that gang of locals making street Mexican food and they had me try all of it

[lone umbra]

understandable but food is good though

[crimson cave]

they also didn't speak English

it was fun

[balmy coral]

Don't get me wrong just that I haven't had any indian foods before except biryani and some flavorful foods from them

I'd love to try

[crimson cave]

i love taco bell at 4 am

shit save lives

[balmy coral]

I work at night

So late night snacks are always a win

[crimson cave]

I work when i feel like working (mostly never)

work sucks

[balmy coral]

I have indian and Pakistani friends

They always talk bout foods

[lone umbra]

nah.. all good i m from india too

[crimson cave]

i think chinese are the most food obsessed friends i have

[balmy coral]

I'm a workaholic

It's in blood and disciplined bout work

[crimson cave]

im like an absolute anti work hhh

i worked for maybe 5 months once

figured its not for me

[amber terrace]

lmao

[balmy coral]

[amber terrace]

i like choco taco

[crimson cave]

heresy

[amber terrace]

nirriti ruin hard

so good

[balmy coral]

Just that don't give me pineapple pizza

We fite

[crimson cave]

what

i mean fine

ill take whole

pineapple woth meat is basically best meal ever

[balmy coral]

[crimson cave]

we used to make pineapple chicken curry with my ex wife all the time

[balmy coral]

Too sweet wtf

[crimson cave]

and pineapple shawarma

so good

[balmy coral]

No pineapple in any dish please

[crimson cave]

i think theres chinese dishes with pineapples too

[balmy coral]

I love pineapples but separately

Only pineapples with chillies

Peak

[amber terrace]

just gonna speedrun

and dead so much =))

[lone umbra]

speed run is ez than nightscream

[amber terrace]

no

cuz u at lvl 100

[lone umbra]

r u not at 100?

[amber terrace]

i mean u hard at ns cuz no at 100

[balmy coral]

Speedrun got harder

[lone umbra]

hmm

did a 3 min run with 1st try

and ns was taking more

today only

[balmy coral]

I will not touch ns ever

I'm done with seasonal quests

Vinemere is cancer

In ns

At least in solo

[balmy coral]

You will live

[balmy coral]

Oh I love sushi so much

Fresh fish meat tastes diff

Tuna and salmon

[amber terrace]

im dead too

[balmy coral]

[crimson cave]

sushi4life for sure

and with tuna...

[balmy coral]

It's when u feel paying 20$ for a sushi doesn't feel bad

[crimson cave]

empanadas with tuna

[balmy coral]

Not cook tuna

[crimson cave]

i had the best tune empanadas in rapa nui

god that was soooo good

[balmy coral]

bro

I will kill u

[crimson cave]

come

[balmy coral]

Food is my bane

[crimson cave]

i don't wanna live anyway

[balmy coral]

Ramen + sushi is peak

I had these cold noodles too

Peak

Expensive but worth it

[crimson cave]

anyways

i believe in 711 food supremacy

but it depends on the country

[balmy coral]

Omaygawd

You're so correct

7/11 foods rocks in my country

Cheap ass

[subtle bramble]

so... how do we get rid of leftover blue souljades now? can't convert because I got a few less than 20

[balmy coral]

You still get some from blue boxes

But convert when u get enough

It's not completely gone

[crimson cave]

i think its only good in japan and thailand

[balmy coral]

bro in my country they offer local frozen foods

I'm thankful

[crimson cave]

well same here

injust microwave

[balmy coral]

Cos u can't tell my cravings

[crimson cave]

what is cooking anyway

[balmy coral]

Once heated it's edible

I complain cos they often don't accept wired transfer

I don't use cash

Cash is the most painful to get for me

3rd world country problem

So some nights I don't eat cos I can't pay using my bank

But I have a cook at home

Now so I don't worry bout it

[crimson cave]

I hate that

in bkk u can only pay card if its 200+

[crimson cave]

u in Philippines?

[balmy coral]

Secret

[crimson cave]

lmao

[balmy coral]

But I prefer wire transfer over cash

Cash is dumb

[crimson cave]

cash is outdated

so are qr codes

just lemme tap the damn phone

[elfin jungle]

I used Exhilarating Elixir; it's taken three times the fatigue, but when I finish, my fatigue increases from 0 to 90, not 135. I try again, and it's always x2, not x3. Is this a problem?

[crimson cave]

im like 99% sure im right but idc tho

[bold ice]

wdym its taken three times the fatigue?

[balmy coral]

If u catch me on spotify u would know

[bold ice]

it doubles fatigue use and drops, but it's active for 3 matches

[balmy coral]

Don't use it

[crimson cave]

yeah u listen to lots of filipino music

[balmy coral]

I-

[elfin jungle]

ah my mistake haha

thought x3

[bold ice]

yeah no, its just for 3 matches

and stuffs doubled

[balmy coral]

to be fair

Filipino music

The wolrd listens to it

[crimson cave]

i only know bini

[balmy coral]

Dinoela

my fav

[crimson cave]

i mean i know more but i dont listen

i come to Philippines quite often for concerts

and i absolutely hate manila

[balmy coral]

Philippines is a good country

[crimson cave]

most of my local friends hate it too tho

[balmy coral]

I'm from Philipppines

[crimson cave]

I loved north of luzon

[balmy coral]

If you know beaches

[crimson cave]

sagada, vigan

etc

[balmy coral]

and some hotspot

[balmy coral]

Oh my God

[crimson cave]

yeah u got some best surf spots ngl

[crimson cave]

whatt

[balmy coral]

Vigan is peak

[crimson cave]

took those in vigan

[balmy coral]

Bro wtf

[crimson cave]

and i remeber the night sky in san juan, top 3 night skies ive seen

ingot a pic too hold on

[balmy coral]

Vigan is peak for beaches and culture

We were once colonized by old spanish

but we respected it

[balmy coral]

That's what all u see rn

[crimson cave]

i know i know

vigan is one of the little places that preserved the old architecture

[balmy coral]

Philippines culture were so kept don't hate Spanish ppl

We were thanklful for the culture they shared

We suffered

but history weighs better for us

That's why PH is a nuetral country

We don't want war

We're just salty

[crimson cave]

good times

[balmy coral]

Yizz

For once

Like for me

I dont care what country u were from I'm curious what your culture is

when u visit

Palawan

beautiful places

[crimson cave]

its on the list, but i havent been there yet

im more of mountain person

i climbed 6088 meters peak

dont @ me

[balmy coral]

ngl everyone welcome in my country if u are curious what u can witness

we have more to offer

but even for us it's expensive

I had a trip last mont but I spent $200 for it

[crimson cave]

ive visited 6 times in past 2 years

[crimson cave]

damn how many gold is that

24000 gold

[balmy coral]

I wanted a PC

but I can go solo trip

I'm the type to not go cheap

when u go out expenses are nothing

[crimson cave]

i only travel solo

cuz no one is that crazy to go with me

[balmy coral]

aww man same

I had a friend but she has a bf

[fierce light]

Dang this Yama's stage sucks

They're supposed to throw more blues when they have Impassable, but they're hardly throwing them

[amber terrace]

wow, buy kill notice in chamber

[balmy coral]

Currently yess

I will wait for next week astral 3 hoping it's soley a boss and beat it

[crimson cave]

yssss

[crimson cave]

they updated the store yuppp

[balmy coral]

u get 4 chests from chamber too

• reset 3 chests u can buy with silk

[amber terrace]

yea

[balmy coral]

Their rng sux

[bold ice]

this is 100% drop rewards from niritti nightscream now

0 catchup

[balmy coral]

but u get more chests so why not

[bold ice]

this is concerning

[balmy coral]

It's bad

but it's the best

until peak or inferno opens

[hidden creek]

yeah they definitely fked up something with the drop this patch

[bold ice]

like you need SO MANY small fragments to recast

[balmy coral]

Didn't u guys had even worse drops before

Expect em to fuc a thing or two

[bold ice]

well you know

when everyone complains about drops

i dont expect them to make it even worse

[hidden creek]

getting worse drop is one thing, AVERAGE drop being shittier is another thing

[crimson cave]

well you need 24?
for conversion you needed 20 blue jades for purp and then 2 purp for recast

so its still better

cuz before you needed 40 blues for 1 recast

with a chance of getting gold tho

[balmy coral]

Ye I expect no less from em

that's why I said 0 to 100 drops

[lone umbra]

tried 2 runs of enigma tabbie with gold keys got 43 frags at 150%
they def did something

[balmy coral]

Catch up points is stupid as fuck

This should be reworked in a form of compensation

[bold ice]

yeah i dont understand why they just didnt make drops better on average

like it seems so odd to come up with a whole new mechanic to solve an issue that just needs a % adjustment

[balmy coral]

they fuc it up again

I'm sure of that

Imagine a catch up on your 150% reward

[fierce light]

It's a better average than it was before.

[crimson cave]

anyone else thinks that showdown pass should be longer than 80 levels?

[hidden creek]

showdown pass value is shit compare to pvp pass value

they don't even return the gold

the rewards getting shitter and shitter

[balmy coral]

Lol

[hidden creek]

showdown always have been a side mode

[balmy coral]

showdown is passive passive profite why would they return it

[fierce light]

Before
20 Rare Souljades = 90% chance of Epic | 10% chance of Legendary

• 1/20 × (0.9 × 1 + 0.1 × 4) = 0.065
• 1 Rare Souljade = 0.065 Fragments (on average)

After
24 Rare Souljades = 1 Recast = 2 Fragments

• 1/24 × 2 = 0.083
• 1 Rare Souljade = 0.083 Fragments

[bold ice]

bro

like, even if this system is better

why does it have to feel worse

[crimson cave]

u got the cube

[bold ice]

i have over 100 of them

[crimson cave]

uh

[balmy coral]

I assume in this new system of nirriti

[bold ice]

its not a mat thats useful all the time like the fragments are

[balmy coral]

Gold keys and shrouded jades take a huge percentage of drops if given

[crimson cave]

ok it's just me that still needs the cubes then hddd

[fierce light]

Rewards screen isn't cluttered with rare Souljades anymore, so you can see what you're actually getting.

[balmy coral]

I gues it's obvious how drop works this update.

[fierce light]

Larger the blue number, worse your drops were.

Going to be handy for Tempered

[amber terrace]

@balmy coral go?

[balmy coral]

Okee

[amber terrace]

id

[balmy coral]

742200010173

[amber terrace]

ready

[balmy coral]

Lmao

[balmy coral]

Yuup

[amber terrace]

u take all my luck

[balmy coral]

0 to 100

wtf

the codex bugg

I couldn't open it

[amber terrace]

yea

sometime i can't open green roll

[amber terrace]

75%

@balmy coral playing at 25% scale =))

[summer ridge]

Lots of jades to be dismantled there

Actually nvm

You got absolutely nothing from that

[balmy coral]

Catch cup points ye

[summer ridge]

[subtle bramble]

i just got my first souljade with a rare to drop on an enigma run which I quit early because I had the wrong potential build equipped

welp that's one flux shard ig

[balmy coral]

LMAOOO @amber terrace I got 100% mod

no more poison @lone umbra 100% mod ice surge

[lone umbra]

Nice

Now you will see justina full potential

[balmy coral]

3 windfalls left

[amber terrace]

nice

[balmy coral]

I go sleep for now

[crimson cave]

yes sleep

[lone umbra]

Is it still possible to get Rare(blue) souljades?

[hidden creek]

yeah, weeklies

[lone umbra]

Alright

Coz i played 1 normal gelid yueshan and got blue jades😅

Was wondering why 🤣

[hidden creek]

lol

🤣

[fierce light]

They didn't disable them for normal difficulty

[young ingot]

I got thunder chain in Nirriti NS, so my guess is i can also get frost chain even if i haven't cleared Huanyue NS, is that right?

Im fairly new and i tought the only way to obtain it was Huanyue

[fierce light]

Yes. I got all the new jades before doing the new missions on Nightscream from Nirriti's Ruins Nightscream.

[young ingot]

Thx man, your guides are amazing btw

[bronze wharf]

Ayeeee WTF XD

[fickle linden]

new shards don't stack with old ones i wanna cry

[fierce light]

Oh snap you can parry other people's Thunder Counters

Can kinda do that in Showdown, but you have to stand right on top of them.

[bronze wharf]

i'm staggering by both of them XD

[signal kite]

1 counter is all it takes to wipe ur whole team 😭🙏

Got my ass beaten up same way

[tranquil cairn]

he mates quick question. What is your way of farming for reroll shards

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Koppy leveled up!

[fierce light]

Nirriti's Ruins (Hard)

Enigma Domain

[amber terrace]

lmao

[tranquil cairn]

thx that helps a lot

[limpid pecan]

just one clarification

this is only true for gold key

or if u do enigma peak

if u do normal key enigma

its worse than nirriti hard

and u dont get much crystals

[dusky sparrow]

My fiance and I rebel and farm NS because it's not actually that stressfull

[flat compass]

Hey so

They changed the new blue jade thing right?

[amber terrace]

noo

[fierce light]

The increased Souljades, omen luck and yin-yang synergy being active makes it better for Fragments even with a regular rune key. By how much isn't known, cause they don't tell us how Luck works.

[tranquil cairn]

i have 140 gold keys ore something like that so its fine

[limpid pecan]

hmm

in that case it must be just a tiny bit better

although i didnt try much with yinyang mastery buff

[flat compass]

I thought now instead of conversion it gives you blue shards

[amber terrace]

yea

[fierce light]

Averages out to be even for Fragments without Luck.

Full team of Yin-Yang Synergy is a little over half 3x Gold Key's Luck.

[dusky sparrow]

So what's our best jade farm then? Enigma to floor x?

Or full clear?(wifey and I can only manage to 6/7 duo)

Also worth noting only i have the yin yang mastery as she didn't get it last TI

[fierce light]

Early clear if you want to farm Fragments hard, but it'll eat up your Rune Key supply.

Regular full clear otherwise.

[dusky sparrow]

I have 114 gold keys and 90 some odd normals.
Need to find a third lmao

[wind light]

whats new with the blue fragments

[fierce light]

Less inventory clutter and they're worth slightly more for Recasting

[fierce light]

Justina is so busted in Nirriti's Ruins. 💀

[cursive fable]

hidark

should i use rare crystal on attack +4%

so if i get another scorch, i just straight up Disenchant for 3 fluxes

if its mod/windfall, then i just keep it, and just roll the existing scorch into attack 4%

[fierce light]

No, you have 2 maxed non-rare attributes and 1 rare you want. That's a lot of progress you'd set yourself back on just from getting the wrong rare.

As it is now, I'd start focusing on other jades that are the furthest from:

1. 2 maxed non-rare attributes.
2. 2 rare attributes you want.

[pearl karma]

why my drops like this...

[fickle linden]

new update

[grizzled canopy]

so your go with team and 3 legend key better than solo with legend key or the same?

[fierce light]

Better. Much higher luck from triple keys and yin-yang synergy.

[grizzled canopy]

so how does luck work i mean is good to build luck jade and let 2 orther farm?

[hidden creek]

yin yang synergy gives 2k personal luck and 1k team luck
so if 3 person all got yin yang synergy and all use gold keys then each person got (3x3)+2+(1x3) = 14k luck?

[fierce light]

Luck isn't shared in that way afaik. It's more of a selfish thing if you make a full build of it since you'll be trading off damage.

[fierce light]

Yeah looks right.

Peak should be going crazy this season. Omen Luck will boost it further too.

[hidden creek]

[fierce light]

I only got catch up from TI like 0-3 times a week once we got Yin-Yang Synergy going.

[hidden creek]

drops after patch looks real fked tho

idk if it's just my imagination

[fierce light]

Idk why they didn't make it apply to Nirriti's Ruins

[grizzled canopy]

idk why showdown dont hv dou just trios and solo, but trios have better farm than solo so just sad when you just want play solo like offline game lol

[fierce light]

Nirriti's Ruins doesn't care much if you're in Trios or not. Although you can clear it faster with a trio.

[lone umbra]

@fierce light what would be max ice blast % in frost surge build ?

[fierce light]

395%

[sleek swan]

i notice that for musket users, after firing some shots, they have this like 3 lightning/yellow shots going out simultaneously. anyone know what is that and how to trigger that?

[hidden creek]

that's thunderpull soul jade

[balmy coral]

Palworld June 25th, grounded 2 next month, naraka showdown + ranked reset

I'm fuc

Stellar blade too

might have to pause showdown by next month

[lone umbra]

alright. i m at 360. it is gonna be pain to max

[sleek swan]

i don't think so. i'm seeing it in niriti ruins as well. its not the divine thunder

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Foulplay leveled up!
| Extra rewards were added for missing levels
ℹ | Level up messages can be disabled for the guild with owo level disabletext

[grizzled canopy]

in niriti you just need to pick element thunder then when the element full it happen

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Sơn Tặc Mượn Tác Phẩm leveled up!
ℹ | Level up messages can be disabled for the guild with owo level disabletext

[hidden creek]

nirriti also have divine thunder counter

[sleek swan]

but the shots are horizontol

[hidden creek]

?

[sleek swan]

counter using musket?

[hidden creek]

yeah?

[grizzled canopy]

yes now musket and bow can counter bro

[sleek swan]

the 3 shots fires out from the character towards the bosses horizontally

[grizzled canopy]

you can use musket and bow counter monster blue forcus

[sleek swan]

as in i saw the feria/valda shooting from far on the bosses. then every few seconds those 3 yellow shots just fires out to the bosses from where they stand

[grizzled canopy]

the 3 shot you said that when you counter the thunder it shot the thunder toward

[hidden creek]

is it this one or not?

[sleek swan]

ya you counter it but does it has shots firing to the boss?

maybe i'm missing something here

[hidden creek]

wdym does it has shots firing or not

these?

[sleek swan]

yaya

those

[hidden creek]

bruh

[sleek swan]

how to trigger that?

[hidden creek]

that's divine thunder counter

[sleek swan]

counter using musket?

[hidden creek]

you counter divine thunder it shots the thunder bolts forward

[sleek swan]

just press G when the divine counter is full?

[hidden creek]

when you saw divine thunder coming down press parry

[sleek swan]

parry with the musket right?

[hidden creek]

with anything that you can do parry

[grizzled canopy]

bro you can parry with melee it still happen

[hidden creek]

musket, bow, all melee weapons

[sleek swan]

let me try

[grizzled canopy]

when the thunder strike you you can parry it to shot it toward

[hidden creek]

if you have thunder counter souljade equipped outside of nirriti, or level 1 thunder elemental blessing in nirriti

[sleek swan]

hmm when i parry nothing comes out

as in i don't see those shots firing out

[hidden creek]

parrying divine thunder?

[sleek swan]

ya

[hidden creek]

vid?

[grizzled canopy]

if you test in free room you need thunder counter jade equip

[sleek swan]

oh

ok i think i get it

thanks

haha

noob me. lmao

[hidden creek]

without that jade you can't even parry divine thunder

so the parry didn't happens

[sleek swan]

no wonder

[hidden creek]

so you can't redicrect the divine thunder bolts toward the target

[sleek swan]

so in niriti, i need elemental right

at least 4 of it

[grizzled canopy]

yeah if in niriti you dont need jade

[sleek swan]

to be able to counter the divine thunder

[hidden creek]

lv1 thunder element blessing

[sleek swan]

got it

[hidden creek]

you need to pick thunder essence

[sleek swan]

ok that explains it

thanks guys

[odd raptor]

Curio system! Is that works or not?

I saw Curio before but also was removed or idk. I'm nub for this. Pls explain me about it

[fickle linden]

it says expired in the picture you posted

[amber terrace]

@balmy coral lol, this boss bite me 3 times in 5s

[balmy coral]

[hidden creek]

https://tenor.com/view/vicious-whiplash-viralhog-fast-playing-with-toy-dog-gif-17281268

[amber terrace]

jade + anima ring

[balmy coral]

Interesting.

Now I will have some motivation to play nirriti

[south tusk]

Old Yama comeback?

[amber terrace]

yea

[south tusk]

Yeee Double RNG comeback

[amber terrace]

@balmy coral go nirriti ruin hard?

[chrome seal]

Huh? Is that some spoiler or what's up with it?

[fierce light]

It's inactive right now, but you can use your weekly Chaos Stones to increase your crafting levels before it resets in a couple months.

[fierce light]

Hopefully they make a Souljade shop so you can choose it instead of random 2. Too many of our current jades rely on others.

[amber terrace]

same on old yama

[frosty fern]

Anyone down to help with Showdown Nightscream ?

[fierce light]

Finally got the stylings right on the mobile site. It was bothering my OCD for the longest.

[odd raptor]

Thank you bro! 😀 👌

[stable bone]

Any tips to clear immovable nightscream solo ?

[hidden creek]

#👾┃showdown message

[idle tree]

wtf is this loot in new season? devs are trolling us?

[fierce light]

No, just instead of the rewards screen being filled with Blue Souljades, they're stacked into mini fragments.

[idle tree]

So i cant get anymore a souljade from conversation?

[fierce light]

Nope, but they're more valuable for recasts now

[idle tree]

we could get golden souljades and rare attributes for 20 blue souljades and now we need 24 fragments without possibility to get anything like how the hell is it more valuable xD I dont get it

i cant even imagine how look loot on 100% and 75% reward if on 150% is so bad and it feels basically like scam xD
For real those changes are weird and idk who likes them. It feels like fatigue is not enough to get anything and even if they wanna incresse I dont wanna play this mode so much to get triple times in a row wrong rare attribute over and over again.

https://tenor.com/view/naraka-cartoon-kurumi-slap-kurumi-naraka-naraka-bladepoint-kurumi-gif-6157032744191549360

[dawn wave]

Can i get some tips to level up mi showdown lvl? im trying to max out

[timid stirrup]

10% chance to get legendary jade. U need 40 blue jades to make 2 epic jades for 1 recast. Now u only need 24 blue jades to have 1 recsst

[fierce light]

Just play any mission you want, you get Showdown XP at a rate of 2.2 per 1 fatigue.

[idle tree]

Ok I feel better now, thanks Flip and DarkZer0.

https://tenor.com/view/naraka-bladepoint-naraka-cartoon-takeda-nobutada-takeda-naraka-takeda-gif-15163743728911347602

[digital sparrow]

So windfall substat, what does it do?
I thought it just gives you a chance for an extra slot on your souljade.

[fierce light]

Managed this on my ILC build on the Shipwreck map.

[timid stirrup]

Nice

My ilc is 75%mod n my fs is 50%. I can't seem 2 get mod

[wind light]

im using it with 100% mods

kinda good

240% ice dmg

3 explosive with ziping trigger alot

[fierce light]

Yeah it's not doing too well in these recent Yama's due to bad match ups.

As long as there's no Impassable or enemies that die too quick though it'll pick up.

[lofty mountain]

does this work for anyone?

[fickle linden]

wdym work?

everyone who started the game way back is missing last one i think

atleast i saw people not too happy in here for being stuck at 79/80

[fierce light]

If they add more jades mid-season again, we should be able to get it

[lofty mountain]

ohh new jades

makes sense now

[fierce light]

Got around to testing Justina's Ultimate:

Justina's Ultimate

Base DMG Multiplier

• 2.00 per tick.
• 9 ticks total.
• 18.00 for full ultimate.
  -# For reference, Tessa's Skill has a 12.00 Base DMG multiplier.
  Damage Spread
• 50% is Skill/Ultimate DMG
  -# I need Curios to confirm this.
• 50% is Ice Blast DMG
  Damage Scaling
• Generic DMG Bonuses scale normally (DMG to Bosses, DMG Bonus, etc).
• For every +1 Ice-Wielding you have, the Base DMG Multiplier of the Ice Blast DMG portion of the ultimate increases by one.

• At +6 Ice-Wielding, a tick of Justina's Ultimate will have a Base DMG Multiplier of 1 + (1 + 6) = 8.00. Meaning it will deal 4x the damage than usual.
• • The full Ultimate would have a multiplier of 72.00, the same damage that Kurumi's Extreme Curio does!

• Ice Blast DMG only applies to the 50% of the Ultimate that is considered Ice Blast DMG.
  -# Ice Blast DMG +30% being equal to DMG to Bosses +15% at 0 Ice-Wielding.

• At +6 Ice-Wielding, Ice Blast DMG becomes 3.5x as effective.
  -# Ice Blast DMG +30% would be equal to DMG to Bosses +105% at +6 Ice-Wielding!

TL-DR: If you're planning to use Justina's Ultimate, you should aim for as much Ice-Wielding and Ice Blast DMG as possible.

-# Tags: Justina, Ult, Rage, Ice, Scaling

[limpid pecan]

and if justina has maxed out build with typical stats?

what would be multiplier?

like 8 windfall 4 mod

[wooden whale]

recasting a rare attribute, does it reroll into another rare attribute?

[shrewd basin]

Not unless you use a flux jade/shard

[wooden whale]

aha, so normal rerolling means losing the red attribute

[timid stirrup]

if its the only rare on the jade it can rr into a rare but at a very low percent

most ppl will rr the unwanted rare into a max stat or near max stat. and then rr on a different stat

[wooden whale]

if you reroll a stat which is maxed, the new stat will remain maxed?

[timid stirrup]

yes

most ppl will use pity on the max stat and select the stat they need

[wooden whale]

cool, didnt know that either, thanks

[steel oxide]

Fam, why can't I use Sayol Wei or Cyra in Showdown? Or am I tripping?

[balmy coral]

Ye if u only have 1 rare in that jade.

[timid stirrup]

they havent been released for showdown yet

[steel oxide]

Seems kinda wack. What's so difficult about just letting you use any character you want on a pve mode?

[fierce light]

1x Skill DMG + 30.45x Ice Blast DMG per tick for ILC.

• 283.05x total (9 ticks).
  -# Tarka's 5-Stack explosive has a 210x Base DMG Multiplier for reference.

1x Skill DMG + 34.65x Ice Blast DMG per tick for Frost Surge.

• 320.85x total (9 ticks).

[fierce light]

• When rolling into or out of a rare attribute, the value is randomized (random/max).
• The value is preserved otherwise (current/max).

[wooden whale]

wdym otherwise?

...if i dont reroll that attribute? 🤨

[balmy coral]

He meant if u reroll a non-maxed attribute the value u get every recast is randomized.

[wooden whale]

oh i see

[balmy coral]

You can find an image of attributes list with maxed value in the pins

[wooden whale]

is there another channel with guides/explanations in this discord? cant seem to find any

[balmy coral]

There's a website u can find in the pins

[wooden whale]

yt guides are rather old and outdated

alright, thanks

[fierce light]

Attribute Recasting Values

Case 1:
Non-Rare Attribute
-> Rare Attribute

• Value is randomized.
  -# random % × new_max

Case 2:
Rare Attribute -> Non-Rare Attribute

• Value is randomized.
  -# random % × new_max

Case 3:
Rare Attribute -> Rare Attribute

• Value is randomized.
  -# random % × new_max

Case 4:
Non-Rare Attribute -> Non-Rare Attribute

• Value is kept.
  -# (current_value / current_max) × new_max

[balmy coral]

I feel like they should do smth bout these attributes too. Maxing a rare is less expensive than maxing a non-rare

The ratio is way too off

[fierce light]

Main reason I don't get mad about getting the wrong rare as much. Can just recast them into a maxed non-rare.

[timid stirrup]

i only get mad at wrong rare cuz im low on resources or i already have maxed non-rare stats

[fierce light]

Yeah that's when I start getting mad

Like when all I needed was 1 Windfall on my Ice Lotus build last season for 2 months

[timid stirrup]

especially when its the same wrong rare 3x and i already have 2 maxed stats and a 90+% stat on the jade

[fickle linden]

https://tenor.com/view/skillissue-skill-issue-gif-22125481

[balmy coral]

Or happens when I get two rares I need by luck

been luckyy on rares so far last week I got 3 scorching but I fixed it all even got windfall.

2 mods and 1 windfall this week solely and so I'm able to save up

my poison was a nightmare compared to this.

[fickle linden]

meanwhile i'm still playing icelotus and poisonlotus

gonna hold until we see new curios no matter what!

also i got rekt in speedrun because i have no idea what moves the new boss has

because in nirriti she dies in 2sec every run thanks to justina

never even seen her stuff before that she did lol

[balmy coral]

same lol

I solo it cos it was pure chaos when I play on trios

[fierce light]

It won't hurt to at least set up an Element Surge. Looks like it's replacing Tundra Might for good.

It's a sizable buff if you're running Frostbound Lotus as well, since your rotations without Lotus won't have scuffed accumulation.

[fierce light]

Dang this going to be a slow week to burn fatigue. Everyone wants to run the slow stuff lol

[balmy coral]

Ye 1.3k fatigue burned and I'm already done.

[fierce light]

Hate that they made Nirriti's Ruins slower solo by spreading the mobs so much

[stable bone]

thanks ^^

[balmy coral]

Ye especially new maps

[digital sparrow]

What does windfall do?

Someone explain plz

[balmy coral]

Adds a sub attribute to a jade

[digital sparrow]

That’s it, no boost to damage outside of an extra substat?

[balmy coral]

It only increases the substat by a percentage value

[fierce light]

#👾┃showdown message

[balmy coral]

There we go

[digital sparrow]

Ah, thank you!

[grizzled canopy]

lol i build toxin so im fk

[fierce light]

Yeah Toxin only good for Kurumi and Wuchen atm anyway

[balmy coral]

Destroy it build surge

Jk

[formal elm]

SEA showdown doom domains anyone?

[signal kite]

[grizzled canopy]

they cant balance 3 element lmao

[signal kite]

Son tac muon tac pham

[fierce light]

Ice just a bit overtuned right now with so many heroes having high damaging skills. Some reason they also gave it the strongest Chain Crush of the 3 by far.

[lone umbra]

Atm any ice build will surpass the poison

Now with freeze being defusable, zip's F protection and justina's special F

[balmy coral]

Things will change when curios are available again. Can't wait

[signal kite]

Literally locked in ahh 😭

[hidden creek]

bro

how?

[balmy coral]

Lmao

[hidden creek]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

this game i swear

[austere kraken]

any guide what potential to i go for ice now/

?

[hidden creek]

it's on pin

[austere kraken]

on pin is for old season

i asking for this new one

since potential tree is different

[hidden creek]

it's new 🙂

have you ever bothered to check it?

[balmy coral]

2 more flux

[chrome seal]

I had the same

[hidden creek]

game is shitting itself

[fickle linden]

well since my tundra might only has windfalls i might just do that

[fierce light]

Lol even has an image of the new boss

[fickle linden]

8 carved crystals, 5 legendary jades and few epic ones

last week i got nothing but epics from nirriti

[crimson cave]

x150?

and elixir?

[fickle linden]

150% reward yes, elixir no

[crimson cave]

noice

[fickle linden]

i don't use elixir anywhere else than peak

[fierce light]

With Tempered Inferno not dropping Rune Keys and being open half a season, Legendary Rune Keys are even more valuable.

[crimson cave]

i still have like 100+

[fierce light]

100 only enough for 5 weeks of Enigma Peak if you only run it at 150% rewards.

[crimson cave]

you get another 100 in those 5 weeks tho

at least until inferno drops

nirriti have a high drop rate

and the fast fatigue burner atm

[fierce light]

Eh I get like at most 10 a week running strictly Nirriti's

Going to be less when you're running Peak for first 600

It drops a lot of regular rune keys

[hidden creek]

100 gold keys in 5 weeks? lmfao you're dreaming

[river stratus]

confused with keys on battlepass?

[balmy coral]

At most u can get some extra on events and 2 in showdown store.

[fickle linden]

yeah definitely not worth using elixir on anything else than to save keys

unless you like spending your money on elixirs and run them 24/7

[lone umbra]

Is there higher chance of getting gold key from dangers in the deep?

[hidden creek]

yeah

cuz 2 bosses

so you got a chance to get 2x gold keys

per 1 clear

even better if it's doom DITD cuz u got luck buff from omens too

[fierce light]

Chance for 2 per run, so could end up with 6 in the same amount of Fatigue as Nirriti's.

Probably going to start running that when peak comes out this time

Could be annoying though if the mobs are too weak to survive Justina's Skill.

[fickle linden]

you still need carved crystals from nirriti or does DITD give alot of them?

[hidden creek]

lol no DITD just for gold keys

[lone umbra]

Ahh that sounds good for farming keys

[hidden creek]

if you want crystals/fragment better off go nirriti or peak

[lone umbra]

Nirriti is so boring to farm crystal

[hidden creek]

it's tedious though

farming DITD

[lone umbra]

Also Nightscream or any mode?

[hidden creek]

NS ofc

[lone umbra]

But I feel better than nirriti

[hidden creek]

if there's doom then run that

[hidden creek]

if you say so

i do like 10 runs in a row and i wanna puke

💀

[lone umbra]

Of DITD?

[hidden creek]

yea

[lone umbra]

That is case for me in nirriti

[hidden creek]

oke

[fickle linden]

anything in showdown 10 runs in a row makes me puke these days

[hidden creek]

i mean if you can stand farming that stage then good for you ig

[fickle linden]

im at 170 fatigue this week

[lone umbra]

Not sure if I can stand that stage too

[fickle linden]

can't find motivation to play

[hidden creek]

same

got excited thinking the builds i made could be good

turn out it isn't

lost motivation to play

https://tenor.com/view/bored-and-boring-gif-gif-25239913

[lone umbra]

I m just playing for maxing the build other than that just waiting for new ranked season

[hidden creek]

i basically got ILC and frost surge maxed

don't really feel like making a bow build

so there's nothing to look forward to for me atm

[lone umbra]

I m at 90% of maxed

[hidden creek]

ig if you're yama rank contender then there's motivation

but i'm not

[fickle linden]

i'm not interested in new builds yet cuz there is nowhere to really use em

[lone umbra]

But ehh it is okay I don't wanna compete too

[fickle linden]

it's just anima cards in nirriti

and i run that 99% time other than doom and few yama games per week

[hidden creek]

but 3 min topaz feels nice

[fickle linden]

maybe one weekly topaz for mission

[lone umbra]

I m just maxing for my what do you call to have everything perfect 😔

[fickle linden]

did you guys scrap the old lotus builds

[fierce light]

150% Rewards - Enigma Peak
100% Rewards - Nirriti's Ruins (Hard)
75% Rewards - DITD

[fickle linden]

i haven't done 75% rewards for some time now, it's hard enough to get 1800 fatigue done but good to know

[balmy coral]

I have been running Doom on regular keys and been getting decent crystals.

[fickle linden]

you mean topaz?

[balmy coral]

Oh topaz ye my bad

[fierce light]

Tempted to work on a Toxin Surge build after I max Bow build and get the last Windfall on Frost Surge

But depends how much time I have left till Tempered Inferno opens.

[fickle linden]

i'm not familiar with topaz, i find it boring. if i had to do peak solo i wouldn't probably run it much either. i find it alot more fun to play with others

i guess some people run topaz trios now with luck bonus i cant be bothered to max gains when i got almost 3k shards in inventory

[balmy coral]

I find it easier to run solo, no loading screens. bosses HP are scaled by yours alone.

[fickle linden]

yeah i have no idea how topaz is scaled in trios, nevr tried it

[balmy coral]

nirriti is fucing tiring especially trash anima rings

[fickle linden]

only done solo

mm, atleast justina is so OP rn even with trash rings it clears nirriti fast

[balmy coral]

Ye she's broken

[balmy coral]

Should I make a bow build? I'm effing hesitant since I literally 0 shrouded jades now

[fickle linden]

isn't bow build just for yama's?

[fierce light]

Unfortunately they made Nirriti's slower to run solo with the increased mob spawns and spread.

[fickle linden]

or is it actually viable in somwehere else

[fierce light]

Getting 5 minute runs on Solo when I get 3 minute runs on Trios.

[balmy coral]

Yama only/peak

[fierce light]

Any boss mission really

[balmy coral]

I'd solo Inferno if I see someone run bow there

[fickle linden]

i already do

[balmy coral]

I'm prepairing for Inferno now cos literally 0 motivation now

[fickle linden]

can't believe i'm missing inferno

i thought i hated it most

i was so negative in here

now i want it back, lol

[fierce light]

It does have some AoE and it charges your Ultimate really fast, so I could see it being viable in Tempered Inferno.

Tempered Inferno was pretty good. 2nd to only Suffer No Demon in fatigue burn.

Almost so fast that I wish they extended fatigue while it's open.

[fickle linden]

slow down there buddy! let's not get carried away!

if they fixed few things about it, it would be great

but right now, and forever best thing about it will be high fatigue cost

[balmy coral]

Ye fatigue I feel bad whenever I have some left since I always thought it wasn't enough before.

The fucing irony

[fickle linden]

whole fatigue system is so stupid

it's either too much or not enough fatigue per week

[fierce light]

Still beats it being weekends only during certain time frames.

[fickle linden]

you could only play showdown on weekends, like during 9pm to 11pm?

like they have certain time frames for immortal war

in PVP

[balmy coral]

I'd want to see.

Also, is it true that everyone is getting their respective curio?

[fierce light]

I think it could be better if they made it reset daily, adding 600 per day, up to 2400. So you can stock up for 4 days if need be. Kinda like most gacha games.

Could be higher cap than 2400 as well.

[fierce light]

It was like 3PM to 3AM

So we'd have to play on AS/EU server while NA was down

If you weren't home to play on the weekend, then you just missed out

[oblique monolith]

How to get faster time in showdown anyone know?

I mean Yama

[fierce light]

The way it translates it sounds that way, but Chinese to English translation is usually pretty ambiguous

[balmy coral]

Ye I see.

[strong kiln]

Bruh

We can get rare stats for jade while farming now?

[balmy coral]

very rare

[timid stirrup]

Nice! Free Flux shard

[fierce light]

1. Look at the builds of the top 3, usually are the best for that mission if you're not sure on what to run.
2. Aim for high attribute values, if not maxed ones.
3. Figure out the best strat for the stage.

• For stages with only bosses, it usually comes down to resetting after a certain amount of mistakes or when the boss spams unfavorable moves (ex: Manticore's lightning breath).

[balmy coral]

I got one recently too and had to deconstruct my last poison jade for one last mod

[strong kiln]

I haven't farm for Ice build yet and it is chill spike with windfall

[fierce light]

I'm really curious if Tessa's Curio activates from Bow. If so, she'll definetly be viable.

[fierce light]

Always possible, just extremely rare

[balmy coral]

Lucky

keep it

[strong kiln]

Sure

Aiming for ice bow build but forgor what it use tho

[balmy coral]

Ngl I feel like they'd make a curio being Surge/bow specific.

[fierce light]

Yeah that'll probably be the general ones

[balmy coral]

but I want em to keep kurumi I enjoyed sunder void so much

[fierce light]

Something related to Deadeye and Element Surge

[strong kiln]

That one is actually really fun to use since it change her gameplay a lot

[fierce light]

Kurumi would definetly want to run ILC with her dedicated Curio when it comes out. For now though, she's best on Toxin Surge.

Or you could replace Chill Spike with Sub-Zero Seal on Frost Surge for her.

[balmy coral]

Ye I literally have 2 builds rn Surge and ILC

[balmy coral]

So happy I got windfall on my sub zero

I wasted like 200 frags on it last week and got nothing.

[fierce light]

Think you would be better off just running ILC with her Curio, but we'll have to see if we get a Yin Curio that boosts Surge

[balmy coral]

Hoping so since I have completed mods now

[fierce light]

If we get one that extends the duration of Surge, then Frost Surge will be BiS for everyone, but Wuchen.

[cinder aurora]

Hello,
When i try to play showdown it says "there is unclaimed soul jades in the temporary inventary. Please clean up the temporary inventary first before starting the game".
I already fed a hundred blue rarity souljades, trying to do this, because i thought the inventary was full, but it still didn't fix the issue.
How does one access (and empty?) the temporary inventary?
Thank you very much

[distant cypress]

Go to your inventory. In the top right next to the highest slot of your inventory there should be a small box with them in it. If its the same as with the normal inventory (not 100%sure)