👾┃showdown

[limpid pecan]

biggest pro tip

spam obliterate hammers on wave 7

and yushan bladestorm is best single target dmg

and the laser for 20k is the biggest piece of dogshit i've seen

[fierce light]

The laser increases damage dealt from all sources for 20s iirc

So you want to use that first

[tough dagger]

Anyone know the fastest way to gain showdown levels?

[quaint girder]

Nirriti's + Showdown EXP Boosters

[crimson cave]

elixir if you want to do it FAST

[quaint girder]

Elixir probs not worth it though unless you're swimming in cash

[crimson cave]

prolly not but if ur gotta go fast..

i had like 20 spare ones so i used a few to get to 100 asap and end with the grind

nothing to waste it on rn tho

with domains speedruns and inferno unavailable

[fierce light]

Waste to use Elixirs just to gain levels

Something that can be done passively just doing the seasonal challenges.

[crimson cave]

on the other hand aint it all the same in the end? you either use it to save time here or there

i can see that it potentially save you 3 extra golden keys per elixir

but thats it?

or am i missing something

[quaint girder]

That's pretty much it. Basically you're min-maxing your Gold Key efficiency to get a full stack of rares by end of season.

Getting Rares Setup helps you setup for later seasons

[fierce light]

Rather use it during the dry periods or for Peak to double the value of Gold Rune Keys.

[turbid agate]

Yeah I learned lol. I was just trying to see if if was viable to make a mixbuild like ice lotus chain for thunder but nope. Thunder surge is very boring. Think I'm going to make a thunder lotus build. Is it super bad compared to ice or just somewhat behind?

[hidden creek]

i mean it's totally functionable but

it's just not good

cuz it take you too long to fill ur thunderbar

[fierce light]

Ice just has a lot of advantages right now, even as an Ice-Thunder build. Even for the new Chain Crush, Ice does over 50% more than Thunder's.

Thunder Lotus also got nerfed the hardest with the removal of Epiphany and nerfs to Lotus-based damage.

[hidden creek]

am wating for Dark to test this build but this is still an ice lotus build lol, just spawning lotuses with parries instead of ice blasts

with less lotus spawning but more chain crush

compare to ILC

as for thunder lotus builds they doesn't looks good, all of them

except maybe thunder lotus surge with scorching (?), though i doubt that it's worth it nvm thunder surge scorching doesn't run lotus

[fierce light]

Likely not, since if the negative burn dmg is multiplicative, it would be the same as having no scaling lol

I mean 54x base scaling per Scorching is still nice.

[hidden creek]

you can also run this build with thunder wielding and take thunder potential

less lotus spawning but you gain access to divine thunder dmg

[amber terrace]

[balmy coral]

I can't win on Justina since everyone on the board has complete builds.

[timid stirrup]

r they using bow builds or frost surge?

[balmy coral]

Frost surge

[thorny sage]

would there be anyone down to help on doom challenges ?

mainly on burried giant n culmination

[timid stirrup]

oh idk y i thought that was justina. tessa should b using ilc or bow. but w/e thats still a solid time

[balmy coral]

Frost surge is Justina focused build.

It only works on her.

[crimson cave]

even tho i got carried im still sad its not #1 tho its the same time :c

[fierce light]

Wow they did it at lv. 92, should be possible to do 20s probably.

[fierce light]

Should be easy to beat with Bow

[crimson cave]

anything is possible when you get carried by bow builds

[balmy coral]

Yess I will focus on it next reset

[crimson cave]

same

gotta build a bow

still need 2 souljades

[fierce light]

I just used Frost Surge since I wanted to see how fast is possible

17s vs 13s on Bow

[river stratus]

so we can say bow dps are higher than frost surge dps if you shot without interrupiton?

[fierce light]

Yeah, once you get past the initial downtime

For the next couple stages though, Frost Surge might perform better

[timid stirrup]

will those times still b like that after the deadeye bug fix

[river stratus]

no

slower for sure

[fierce light]

Think it needs at least 30s to equalize

If you have at least 8% Deadeye Rate, it should take 3x Stage 2 Shots to activate Deadeye. Think that takes around 10s.

[river stratus]

ok👌🏻

[twin ledge]

We did it in 15 or 14

[fierce light]

Oh didn't realize that was Trios

[twin ledge]

Yea

Don’t think 21 could be much faster in solo tho

Maybe around 1 or 2 seconds

Matari doesn’t trigger ice with 2 hits now without curio

[fierce light]

Yeah that 3rd hit makes it take much longer

Frost Surge going to be better with Curios

[rotund forge]

anyone doom domain

[amber terrace]

Good, i'll kick out u

[balmy coral]

Take Justina's first place not my Tessa board

[tawny silo]

d

[amber ferry]

Maybe a noob question idk but is there an effective way to grind showdown level or is it just a case of kinda do whatever

[plain spire]

Nitiri + use 50% showdown xp buff from item

[amber ferry]

just any difficulty?

[plain spire]

yes, faster run normal but meh drop, fast run hard max drop rate

[amber ferry]

Thank you thank you appreciate the quick response!

[amber terrace]

[round glacier]

Whats scarlet guayin new name?

Cant find it ti save my life

[tranquil beacon]

It's still called that. But you get it by going to the Narakapedia and then to the Commemorative tab. There you can claim it for like 2 jade fragments

[amber terrace]

I request dev/game need has action afk player in nirriti ruin or showdown mode

That made this game so trash and boring

[lone umbra]

They punish the players by reducing reputation, right?

But I guess it is not enough

[fierce light]

Yeah, leading to a ban eventually

[crimson cave]

i think they reduce rep if they leave

if they staying doing nothing idk

i had 1 afker in domain trios reported him

idk if that helps

[fierce light]

There used to be a strat where one person would clear it while the other 2 afk and all 3 take turns. But when they first implemented the punishment system it was pretty harsh.

[tranquil beacon]

You also get reduced rep. I was doing duo nirriti with gf, but she had to go afk for a bit. I alt tabbed. After a while we were both kicked from the game and got reputation dmg 😄

[crimson cave]

well you got kicked

thats why I guess

[fierce light]

Kinda weird it does it if the whole team afk's

They should probably implement a pause feature

[amber terrace]

damm, before that i met 10-15 afk player in nirriti ruin

then TI release, that help me so much

[lone umbra]

I guess I got lucky with randoms in nirriti...
Are you running the Nightscream or hard mode?

[amber terrace]

for fast so i run hard

[lone umbra]

I am max fatigue otherwise I would have jumped in
But let's play on reset?

I am almost done with Nightscream quests

[amber terrace]

yea

[dusky sparrow]

Is tomorrow reset? Or the day after?

[timid stirrup]

2moro

[signal kite]

New emojis

[tame smelt]

??

got 12 lotus rings in a single run twice

but its still not ticked off

[chrome seal]

U sure u got it in NS/Legend difficulty mode?

[tame smelt]

ofc

[timid stirrup]

was 1 of them lotus boon?

[chrome seal]

Hmm that's weird

[tame smelt]

in both runs

in this one i got 13 inc boon

12 w/o

[chrome seal]

It doesn't work with that?
I didn't know

[timid stirrup]

lotus boon only counts as 1

so even tho it says 12/12 technically its only 10/12

u should still grab more lotus anima after getting boon just to be safe

[fierce light]

Yeah the quest isn't looking for Blessing II, but rather 12 rings

[fickle linden]

this wild vinemire is trolling more than randoms in inferno

[fierce light]

Yeah gotta watch out for that initial charge

[balmy coral]

Vinemire was actually annoying so annoying

If u really need to get close up to the boss he will shove u up

[rotund forge]

anyone doom

[autumn badger]

has the world of showdown meta changed in the last week or are we settling into ice chain/lotus/surge and bow cheese

[fierce light]

Hasn't even been a patch since the new season started yet, so no

[hidden creek]

upcoming poison and thunder buff doesn't looks so good either

from what i see it thunder is only good on perma ult monk

other than that eh
even the tsurge musket build shouldn't be called thunder musket, it's a DT parry build

[steep nexus]

rank placement any1

[balmy coral]

@shrewd basin bish

[shrewd basin]

lol you can thank our firends

Cuz that’s wasn’t me

[shrewd basin]

Also get fked XD

[balmy coral]

xD

bow build Op

[shrewd basin]

🤷‍♂️ guess I have a bow build now XD

Divine sky something only obtained in NS

[fickle linden]

did they remove gambit from game?

[fickle linden]

divine army from the sky

[shrewd basin]

What he said

[hidden creek]

no specific character requirement

https://youtu.be/E7qn4m780Ek?t=109

but you need to follow these steps

not just playing the game

[fierce light]

One of the hardest to get

[hidden creek]

bit annoying cuz it require you to run ns yeah

[crimson cave]

ii got beaten up from.my 3d place in trios too 😭😭😭

[drifting nimbus]

where's the best place to farm elemental surge and chil spike? just unlock them

[fierce light]

Element Surge can drop from Hard. Chill Spike from Nightscream. If you want the specific jades you can focus their chapter missions. Otherwise can farm the respective difficulty in Nirriti's Ruins.

[fierce light]

Just tried Toxin Surge on Kurumi & Wuchen in Yama's, it actually feels pretty decent.

The Toxin Blasts and Toxin Chains help with the accumulation

[timid stirrup]

no luck on a toxic lotus chain build huh?

[hidden creek]

well it was always decent
the question always was ''is it good enough to compete with ice''

and the answer is likely not

specially when infectious touch became useless

[timid stirrup]

but infectious touch is in the toxin surge build

[hidden creek]

idk why it's there

lol

once you entered surge state you can't build poison on yourself anymore
so there's no toxified stack to transfer aside from the one you got before surge state, so the jade only contribute 2 toxified stacks per ~20 seconds

well it's not entirely useless ig

but less effective

[fierce light]

Between the long cooldown on Poison Blast and the need to spam Aegis-Breaks, you will at most miss one Infectious Touch window.

[hidden creek]

wdym miss one window

[fierce light]

It'll be more windows when up against multiple targets

I'll try it with Lotus later when my little nephew is asleep

[hidden creek]

so you gonna advise people going for poison just for mobbing while ILC exist?

[fierce light]

No, just a good option for Wuchen & Kurumi

[hidden creek]

doubt it could even compete with ILC

[fierce light]

Kurumi likely going to ILC when her Curio is out

ILC worse for them at the moment

[hidden creek]

infectious touch = 2 stacks of toxified every 30 seconds against single target with aegis
it's just useless

and i don't mention mobbing because you can just run ILC build which shares 4 jades with ice surge build

no matter how you look at it, investing in a poison build is the worst decision at the moment

[fierce light]

The main thing is the ratio to Poison Blasts. In that rotation, you got Infectious Touch off for every Poison Blast.

You don't accumulate much element when you're spamming Aegis-Breaks.

[hidden creek]

what's the difference when you can't build poison on yourself during poison surge?

even if you proc poison blast earlier, pool happens earlier but you don't get toxified then what is the use of infectious touch?

[fierce light]

Against multiple enemies, Infectious Touch will have less value, but against single-targets like that situation, it pretty much has the same value.

• Extra +2 Toxified Stacks per Poison Blast (cooldown of 15s).

[fierce light]

Ah you actually did get a Poison Blast off from Chain Crush during Toxin Surge. So Infectious Touch was about 50% effective.

[hidden creek]

are we even talking about the same jade?

[plain spire]

anyone tried this bow build 2 charge shot makes toxin explosion, it's good on training don't know in real gameplay

[hidden creek]

how do you even get infectious touch to works when you don't even get toxified for 2 stacks of toxified every 15s?

[fierce light]

Yeah.

1. Poison Blast activates Noxious Blast & Pestilent Pool.
   -# Noxious Blast +1 [Toxified]
   -# Pestilent Pool +1 × 2 [Toxified]
2. Pestilent Pool let's you activate Infectious Touch 50% of the time against a single target.
   -# Infectious Touch +2 [Toxified]

Infectious Touch becomes less effective the more targets there are due to it having a 15s cooldown from Toxin Surge.

Basically not worth considering if you're planning on mobbing

[hidden creek]

then how does it gives you 2 toxified stacks every 15s?

[fierce light]

This rotation has 3 Poison Blasts.

1. 0:07

• 0:14
• 0:28

The 1st and 3rd Poison Blast benefited from Infectious Touch, the 4th Poison Blast likely wouldn't.

[hidden creek]

yeah, and the rotation lasts for 30s

so it took 30s from the 1st time infectious touch active to the 2nd time it active

so +2 toxified stacks every 30 seconds, correct?

[fierce light]

Yeah, I'm basing it off the number of Poison Blasts, rather than time. Noxious Blast & Pestilent Pool both are dependant on the number of Poison Blasts as well.

Noxious Blast

• 1 × 3 [Toxified] in that 30s
  Pestilent Pool
• 2 × 3 [Toxified] in that 30s
  Infectious Touch
• 2 × 1 [Toxified] in that 30s
• 2 × 2 [Toxified] in ~32s

[balmy coral]

That took a while lol

https://youtu.be/RbKCJ3caqD0?si=8QVU2ZW1DiRfMjBG

[hidden creek]

the 2x2 toxified from infectious touch is only for the first rotation when poison blast is not on cd on target
you start from when you get out of surge it gonna take longer since poison blast is still on cd

anyway
my point is [poison element surge] reduce the usage of infectious touch
bcoz without element surge, infectious touch is active everytime you proc poison blast
but with element surge if you proc poison blast during surge you can't active infectious touch

and you have to wait for poison blast to cd to start stacking for the next poison blast for the pool to then active infectious touch again

and that's bad synergy

[fierce light]

Yeah Element Surge does actively reduce Infectious Touch's effectiveness.

[hidden creek]

yep

poison build doesn't even provide that good of dps in the first place

[fierce light]

Yeah we'll have to see what they cook for the curios

Right now it's just a better option for Kurumi and Wuchen, but going to be just Wuchen once Kurumi's dedicated Curio comes back.

Sorta like how Thunder Surge mainly good for Tianhai only right now

[hidden creek]

if only they make toxified chain also proc poison blast regardless of poison blast cd like how frostbite chain does

[fierce light]

Aegis damage going to be useless in the later stages and it already does plenty of Aegis DMG

[hidden creek]

yeah they gave toxin huge aegis break power compare to ice or thunder

but it's useless if at the same time they keep giving end game stages bosses unbreakable aegis bar

that's why i said toxin builds are noob trap

[summer ridge]

I am Aegis

[hidden creek]

they gets you excited when you saw early stages bosses aegis bar explode

[summer ridge]

My fatigue refills tmr and I’m max level

I get more gems now

[hidden creek]

to depression when you found out you can't even break them later

it's been 2 seasons and it's still the same

[fierce light]

Hmm

[hidden creek]

before anyone tell me ''bUt iT's thE bEst in infErnO~'', ice do fine as hell in inferno, in fact it's not even that far behind poison
so there's literally 0 reason to go for poison

[fierce light]

Maybe the Showdown Level rework adjusted how Aegis scales

[hidden creek]

also

they announced that when TI open there'll be dedicated curio for every characters

[fierce light]

But yeah Poison is reliant on the general Curios to work properly, while Ice is usually synergistic with the dedicated & general Curios.

[fierce light]

Was wondering if they were saying it would be one for all heroes this time or not

[hidden creek]

i didn't do the translation myself so i don't really know what's the wording they used

but they definitely said there will be more character dedicated curios along with new universal curios

[fierce light]

Okay I tried Kurumi and Wuchen with Poison Lotus Surge instead, I managed a faster time.

Removed:

• Noxious Blast
• Infectious Touch
  Added:
• Toxified Lotus
• Ghastbloom
  Kept:
• Pestilent Pool
• Element Surge
• Toxin Seep
• Toxified Chain

Wuchen especially felt it more since it's easier to spam his Aegis-Breaks

[hidden creek]

aha

[fierce light]

This current Yama's boss is pretty terrible for testing though.

[amber terrace]

reset tomorrow

[bold ice]

Wonder if the universal ones will be any good in comparison to hero-specific

[hidden creek]

hard to tell

[bold ice]

Considering a minute ago we had hero-specific curios obviously stronger than the universal ones

Cause even if you wanted to have the take of "let me use this universal one until I get a good hero-specific" it will be a waste of mats

And you'll probably get a good hero done before you randomly drop a universal

[hidden creek]

they're not that hard to make

and you'd want to max the crafting level on all of them anyway

[bold ice]

Yeah so it's just a material sink to get the rewards

[lone umbra]

not on iron lotus bombs

[hidden creek]

you'll never know if one day it became meta

[lone umbra]

[lone umbra]

it may be

[balmy coral]

How fast did it take to kill the boss?

[amber terrace]

use hack

[balmy coral]

[rotund forge]

anyone doing doom?

[fierce light]

46s on Wuchen. With no investment into the new poison jades.

[void yew]

[fierce light]

Good ol Defuse meta.

[amber terrace]

Flame meta before scorching

[fickle linden]

i take back everything bad i ever said about inferno

gimme that 75 fatigue cost

just remove autolocking curios and im fine

[crimson cave]

will you carry me through astral after reset

[amber terrace]

[summer ridge]

Is thunder getting buffed

Does inferno give lots of jades

[sleek bronze]

i think both thunder and poison get buff

[summer ridge]

Great my favorite element getting buff

[quaint girder]

Big Buffs too. Thunder Surge increases DT damage by another 15% and they removed the burn penalty making Scorchin viable again. Thunder Chain procs every 5 DT hits as opposed to 6. @fierce light correct me if I'm wrong, but the DT hits include for Chain includes both the countered lightning AND the DT elemental accumulation proc on an enemy. This means after one rotation of a DT hit on an enmy plus 4 normal DT counters without Surge, you can pop chain.

So massive buffs for people who want to run non-Surge as well as Surge Builds.

[fierce light]

Souljade Quantity
-# (per Fatigue)
Enigma Domain > Nirriti's Ruins = Tempered Inferno > Chapter Missions

Fragments Rate
Enigma Peak > Enigma Topaz > Tempered Inferno > Nirriti's Ruins > Chapter Missions

Fatigue Burn Speed
Tempered Inferno > Nirriti's Ruins (Hard/Normal) > Enigma Topaz > Enigma Peak

Carved Crystal Rate
Nirriti's Ruins > Everything Else

[balmy coral]

nnot me u have to ask tabbie

[balmy coral]

nice

[fierce light]

Oh they did? Thought I remember seeing the Burn reduction on Element Surge still.

Haven't heard anything on reducing the charges for Thunder Chain either, but that'll make Tabbie's Thunder Chain builds more viable.

[crimson cave]

you have friends with BOW builds

i have ughhh

nothing

[fierce light]

Ah the patch notes are up

https://www.narakathegame.com/m/news/update/20250609/33459_1239239.html

[summer ridge]

Just tell me which missions is the best over all

[summer ridge]

I got scorching blaze on one of my souls jades will it be useful

[fierce light]

They're all good for different things. When Tempered Inferno is open though you should be primarily running that to get your Curios online.

[balmy coral]

u are fucced

[summer ridge]

I use Féria

None of the of the curios match for her

Besides all hero’s

[fierce light]

Ah it sounds like they aren't allowing us to deconstruct rare Souljades to Fragments directly.

[hidden creek]

isn't it they just gonna remove rare souljades

[summer ridge]

No

They removed you

[fierce light]

Yeah, we don't know what Curios we're getting this season, but you'll always want them for the Yin-yang bonus for one.

[hidden creek]

removed ''some'' rare souljades wtf

[crimson cave]

why not all of them?

[hidden creek]

tf they means ''some'' of them

[hidden creek]

yea lol

[fierce light]

They're still helpful as placeholders while you're leveling early on

[crimson cave]

whats was the point of blue jades anyway

[fierce light]

But I hope they do allow us to deconstruct them directly

[crimson cave]

i think you have enough free purp jades at start?

from random gifts etc

you only need like 6

[hidden creek]

yea isn't it they gives you like a beginner set

or at least 3-4 jades

[balmy coral]

Imagine bringing it back

[fierce light]

Yeah, but not all of them are helpful and oftentimes can't beat a free maxed Attack stat.

[crimson cave]

idk, its also that it doesn't really mean much when you just starting? like you doing normal story showdown where you are absolutely fine being absolutely naked

and after a few chapters you get enough purps golds etc

I can agree that even grey jades are better than nothing in survival, but in showdown idk

[hidden creek]

they never bother to explain shit but they thought about keeping blue jades for starters?

bruh

i don't even know that elemental blast got a cd after one year of showdown

💀

[crimson cave]

thats the biggest fuck around and find out game istg

[hidden creek]

yea like would be nice if they like, introduce to starters the synergy between tpull and tcounter

[fierce light]

Of course, it'll just be helpful for speedrunning the start ig. Run Attack Souljades in the empty slots. Instead of useless jades like Basalt Armor, Gunpowder, Lotus Recovery, etc.

[hidden creek]

so newbs be like ''oooh that's the thing you should aim for when making a build, synergy''

[balmy coral]

Huan ye fixed and that annoying Deer projectile got fixed too

[crimson cave]

i was like the fuxk is divine thunder what it means to counter that

[hidden creek]

literally me

😂

[crimson cave]

we all been there

[balmy coral]

got a feeling they'd open Inferno much earlier I hope so

[fierce light]

2 extra crafts per week

Hopefully it does open earlier if they're adding a lot

Going to be a nightmare trying to get good ones for multiple heroes

[balmy coral]

Ye since the crafting rng was basically trash

with additional curious leveling it up would be tedious.

[hidden creek]

eh no

that's just for you to leveling up crafting level

when TI open they all gonna gets removed

so no you can't hoard them and wait for new curios

[balmy coral]

removed? existing curious?

No, I meant the chaos stones.

[hidden creek]

even that

all curios, all curio related materials

[balmy coral]

Did they say that?

[hidden creek]

yeah they did

[balmy coral]

where?

[crimson cave]

curiosity is banned here

[hidden creek]

patch note

[balmy coral]

show

[hidden creek]

they already said so at the start

[hidden creek]

go look for it yourself lol

[balmy coral]

all I read was the curious getting locked up lol

[hidden creek]

read more

[balmy coral]

I'm not looking for something I dunno even about

[fierce light]

Yeah Curio Crafting materials are going away when it reopens

[hidden creek]

lmfao isn't it because you don't know about it so you should look for it?

[fierce light]

Only starting advantage people can get is the crafting level for old Curios.

[balmy coral]

wasted energy lol

[balmy coral]

Okee

[balmy coral]

So, basically, get weekly chaos stone to partially level up the crafting .. that's it?

[hidden creek]

funny how you don't know shit but when someone who know tell you you don't believe and refuse to go look for it yourself

[dusky sparrow]

With the features for curios being added. Does this mean curios are back? And with thunder chain buffs, are divine thunder builds mak8ng a comeback?

[fierce light]

Starting out, you'd probably want to go for Fiery Lotus Bell & Withered Glory to get yin-yang early. Then go for random crafting till everything is at least Lv. 1.

[balmy coral]

I just need someone to verify it here lol

no need to take it too far

[hidden creek]

and i did, and what did you do?

[hidden creek]

take it too far? look at your attitude

[balmy coral]

thanks !

[balmy coral]

??

[fierce light]

They aren't back, you can just increase the crafting levels of the current ones till it reopens.

[balmy coral]

I just said I don't need to go too far and look for it lol

[hidden creek]

and when dark said the same only then you shut it?

[balmy coral]

I just need someone to verify it here lol

[dusky sparrow]

Ah. This sounds.
Wonky. But for those of us prepping, it keeps it relevant i guess.

Side note.
Divine thunder meta returning?

[crimson cave]

bow meta

ice meta

[dusky sparrow]

Currently yes.
I am curious to see what the shot jade changes will do

[crimson cave]

and i keep playing poison cuz i dont know anything else

[dusky sparrow]

That was me at the start before I got my chains

[crimson cave]

i think its an ok build to start when you are farming for jades for better builds

and the gameplay is more novice friendly

and im pretty new to the game still like 25 login days give me a break

[fierce light]

Unlikely, additive buffs won't really help it, it needs a faster charge time

Poison does have higher base dmg, just worse scaling cause Toxin Blast isn't considered Poison Blast DMG.

[hidden creek]

feels like they didn't even tried

to balance between elements

there's so many way that you can change for thunder/poison to keep their gameplay identity and at the same time could compete with ice

rather than just stats buff

but they just do stats buff, and it still doesn't change shit

at this point i'm convinced they did it on purpose

[fierce light]

They could've made Toxin Seep work off uncharged attacks and keep it's 1s cooldown.

[flat compass]

Idk I think poison is pretty good too it’s not just ice

Lots of people use poison

Thunder is shit

[hidden creek]

lots?

[fierce light]

Could've made Thunder Charge increase the charge rate of Thunderpull as well.

[flat compass]

But not poison

Yeah

[hidden creek]

you mean newbies? lmfao

[flat compass]

No I don’t

[crimson cave]

because its easy to play, bit its not competitive atm

[fierce light]

If you're using Poison right now on anyone but Kurumi/Wuchen/Bow then you're kinda trolling.

[flat compass]

Ik people on leaderboards who use poison

[fierce light]

ILC is the easiest build there has even been

[hidden creek]

who

[flat compass]

For one me

[dusky sparrow]

So in other words.
No meaningful meta changes.
sad ixi noises

[hidden creek]

what's ur ranking?

last season?

[fierce light]

I'll still have to do some testing on these new Thunder builds.

[flat compass]

Last season was 50 for all hero’s I played

But I don’t do poison for all of them

[fierce light]

But the regular Thunder Surge build isn't looking very viable outside of Musket at the most.

[flat compass]

It does depend on the character

[hidden creek]

50 🤣🤣🤣

[dusky sparrow]

I mean
Viper has a flexible aegis spam in her kit so poison has some application on paper.
on paper
Maybe not necessarily execution

[hidden creek]

come back when you're in top 3 with poison

then you can talk about it being good

[fierce light]

Yeah she can play hit and run. Her poor accumulation rate makes her terrible for Frost Surge.

But still likely ILC is better for her.

[hidden creek]

as ANYONE who compete for top 10 yama, from the moment poison gets added into the game
see what's their opinion on poison at end game stages

[dusky sparrow]

If there is ANYTHING I can do to help, let me know.
Dm me with exact instructions if needed and I will follow them to a T.

(Math is my thing and so is build testing)

[flat compass]

Lmk too I love helping when I can!

[hidden creek]

thunder seeing it gets used everywhere except on thunder builds:

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-so-gif-18681605

even with tmr patch changes

melee tsurge is still trash

actually now that mighty lotus counter + thunder chain looks appealing

[fierce light]

For current Yama's, meta is looking like:

• Viper Ning : ILC
• Feria Shen : Frost Surge (Sub-Zero variant)
• Tianhai : ILC
• Temulch : Bow
• Tarka Ji : Frost Surge (Sub-Zero variant)
• Kurumi : Toxin Surge
• Valda Cui : ILC | Musket (sweaty)
• Yueshan : Frost Surge (Sub-Zero variant)
• Matari : Frost Surge (Sub-Zero variant)
• Wuchen : Toxin Surge
• Yoto Hime : Frost Surge (Sub-Zero variant)
• Tessa : Frost Surge (Sub-Zero variant)
• Ziping Ying : Frost Surge (Sub-Zero variant)
• Justina Gu : Frost Surge (Sub-Zero variant)

[fierce light]

I'm just waiting on my little nephew to go back to his dad's so I can focus

[crimson cave]

whats is sub zero variant

[fierce light]

Replace Frostbite Chain with Sub-Zero Seal.

Don't recommend it if you don't have high stats though

[crimson cave]

ah i thought it was MK reference

[hidden creek]

lol

[hidden creek]

why szs over chain tho?

it's better?

[fierce light]

The runs are too fast to activate Chain

Or Chain is overkill

[hidden creek]

peak open next week right

[fierce light]

Speedrun

I think Peak is later, unless they pushed it forward

[hidden creek]

oh

[crimson cave]

speedrun is tomorrow, no?

[hidden creek]

tmr is reset day so new week

[crimson cave]

to me reset day is today tho lmao

[fierce light]

They have to make the Eerie variants of the new boss so usually takes longer

[balmy coral]

My sub zero this week to complete my Yama surge

[hidden creek]

yeah in like 5 hours or something

[crimson cave]

yuppp

[balmy coral]

I just need one windfall for it

I might ditch bow build atp until next month if I get so unlucky

[hidden creek]

on my builds? 🥹

yay

[fierce light]

I just need one more Windfall for my Frost Surge build and it's done

But I'm working on Bow since it only needs 1 rare per jade

[balmy coral]

My problem is shrouded jades

I don't have anymore

[hidden creek]

though i noticed chain crush is easily missed sometimes

wish they just make it proc on target

[fierce light]

Yeah, so painful when that happens

[hidden creek]

like elemental blast

[dusky sparrow]

They are a "choose from all jades of that season" resource now

[balmy coral]

Since Inferno is locked its rate drop is low

[fierce light]

Pretty much less dps than the old Lotus Mod builds when that happens

[hidden creek]

rip

[fierce light]

I get about 2 Shrouded Jades per week

Plus the 2 from the weekly

[balmy coral]

I got only 1 drop + the weekly

Most of my jades rn are only 3 slotted

[hidden creek]

honestly considering making an alt to test out diff build idea

[dusky sparrow]

tilts head
We are not thinking the same thing
Can someone redefine shrouded jade for me?
I thought it was the ancient ones that no longer function and are a choice SJ

[balmy coral]

It gives additional slot to your jade

[hidden creek]

shrouded jade is the square thingy you use to open additional attribute on your jade

[dusky sparrow]

AAAAAA
green cubes
Got it

I only got 2

And i exhausted my fatique

Unless I mis c I unted

Miscounted

[balmy coral]

When inferno was open u wouldn't have a problem with it but I was stupid enough to waste it all

[fierce light]

The ones you Imbue a Souljade with to get more Attribute slots.

I think it's slower than the old way, but it doesn't cost any jades at least

[hidden creek]

you only ran out of those at the beginning of the season anyway

once the meta settled they got 0 usage

[balmy coral]

With too many possible builds rn it's scarce

Plus battlepass doesn't give enough

[hidden creek]

inb4 it's monk tsurge and 2 bows everywhere

[fierce light]

Probably going to finish my Bow build, finish my Frost Surge build, then work on the new Poison Jades.

[balmy coral]

Ye and 4 hours til reset

[dusky sparrow]

I just realized the training room allows me to test base lines of things without investment

[fierce light]

It'll be relatively easy to make the Bow and Poison since they only need single rares.

[balmy coral]

and Oh this reset I guess we're getting the first flux from seasonal

@amber terrace will grind nirriti?

[amber terrace]

yes

i need crystal

[balmy coral]

AAWHH Okee

[fierce light]

Gonna wait till after the patch for the small Fragments

Will be testing the reworked element shots for Musket as well

[dusky sparrow]

I hate the training arena.
You cannot accurately test any ele surges builds that are NOT frost because the ele surge is forever pinned to frost e.e

Least IN the training room

Can anyone help me report that?

Yay!

I can see potential for thunder chain

Had to go test it.
Sadly with 0 investment it's a slow start tho. Using matari

[river stratus]

you can change

go on elemental jades

on top you can chose the element and description on ele surge jade change

[dusky sparrow]

It doesn't
All three of them just give the frost description

In teaining

Training*

[river stratus]

send a screenshot im away from pc

its just hidden

nvm i found one

[balmy coral]

Wait if that what u meant then ye

[dusky sparrow]

Oh
So for thunder I think i see the intended loop
Build to thunderbolt
Parry-riposte
Triggers it again
Repeat

[dusky sparrow]

God it feels so bad to use tho

[dusky sparrow]

Poor thunder needs help
So badly.
It's drowning.
I CANNOT get any form of consistency with it at ALL

[turbid agate]

What's the over/under that the update gets delayed on Xbox ? 💀

[quaint girder]

Those are Faded Jades

[quaint girder]

Yeah that Surge/Chain build is basically for Tianhai and Musket.

But Tianhai sucks with that because there's another Frost Surge he builds to double animation cancel to have infinite ultimate

So yeah Thunder is in a really bad place here

[balmy coral]

Free chest

[amber terrace]

[fierce light]

Thunder, Poison & Musket Buffs

Thunder
-# from x12 [Windfall], x6 Attack, x6 Divine Thunder DMG.

• +2% Attack (Element Surge)

• ~1.02% DPS increase

• +15% Divine Thunder DMG (Element Surge)

+20% Divine Thunder DMG (Element Afterglow)

• ~7% Divine Thunder DPS increase

• 6 > 5 Divine Thunder DMG charges to activate Chain Crush (Thunder Chain)

• 20% faster activation

Poison
-# from x6 [Windfall], x6 Attack, x6 DMG to Bosses, & x6 Poison Blast DMG.

• +15% Poison Blast DMG (Element Fury)

+25% Poison Blast DMG (Element Surge)

• ~10.8% Poison Blast DPS increase

Musket
-# without including the base shot's damage.

• Ice Bomb : 0.49 → 3.50

• ~+614.29% DMG increase

• Thunder Shot : 0.56 → 3.50

• +525% DMG increase

• Toxic Shot : 0.57 → 3.50

• ~+514% DMG increase

[quaint girder]

Jesus on that Frost Shot increase

Is Scarlet Guanyin's modifer better or worse than Shattered Edge's?

30% (or whatever) bonus on Headshot vs flat 18% ATK?

basically replacing one of those

[fierce light]

What're you running atm?

Scarlet Guanyin ends up being 26.7% more headshot dmg. No diminishing returns.

[quaint girder]

New Maximum Deadsky Build:

• Element Surge Poison
• Thunderpull
• Desperation
• Shattered Edge
• Backfire
• Scarlet Guanyin

Potentials is Red/Blue bow setup on Zer0's site.

This is my current build for extremely sweaty Musket

52-3k headshots in training lol

So new build will be:

New Maximum Deadsky Build:

• Element Surge Poison
• Frost Shot/Ice Bomb (whatever the name is)
• Thunderpull
• Desperation
• Backfire
• Scarlet Guanyin

Potentials is Red/Blue bow setup on Zer0's site.

This is the absolute pinnacle of Damage you can push, but extremely punishing if you cannot airwalk/skyrender immune the self stagger

Extreme Sweaty

[fierce light]

Shattered Edge is a 7.74% DPS increase at max build.
-# x6 [Windfall], x6 Attack, x6 DMG to Bosses, x6 Ranged Weapon DMG.

[quaint girder]

vs. Scarlet on maxed build?

[fickle linden]

if i start the game xx:59 before reset and finish it after reset
, does it use old or new fatigue?

[quaint girder]

New

[fierce light]

On Headshot

• 17.56% DPS increase for Scarlet Guanyin.
  On Body Shot | Weakpoint Shot
• 7.74% DPS increase for Shattered Edge.

[quaint girder]

yep

[quaint girder]

then this is the new maxmimum overdrive sweaty build

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[fierce light]

Personally going to run it without Thunderpull. Only a 0.867% difference.

If I do make the build.

[quaint girder]

If it's only an 0.8% difference now, Shattered and Quick Attack are kinda meh then

Might be better to put in utility unironically

[fierce light]

It will only be a 0.8% difference between Shattered Edge and Thunderpull I mean

[quaint girder]

oohhhh

i see lol

If you update the site you should setup the build like:

• Element Surge Poison
• Frost Shot/Ice Bomb (whatever the name is)
• Desperation
• Backfire
• Scarlet Guanyin
• [Flex]

Flex usually is Shattered Edge for more consistent and forgiving damage, but if you really want to max out damage and are confident in landing every headshot and dodging ever stagger use Thunderpull for a 0.8% damage increase.

Xilenced would try piloting this build lol

[fierce light]

Feel like it would be pretty bad for trying to fly

[quaint girder]

If he actually pulls it off and shaves like 2 seconds off of like the top solo records for Feria/Valda then I'll be impressed

[fierce light]

Which seems to do more dps than grounded Skyrender Shots due to the fire rate

Poison Shot/Arrows is likely the go to after the changes. Poison Blast going to have a bit of scaling from Element Surge

Right now it doesn't matter

[quaint girder]

Really? Enough to ignore the literal 100% DPS increase over poison from Ice shot?

At least for Musket

[fierce light]

130.5% Attack (Bonus) with Shattered Edge.
132.5% Attack (Bonus) with Thunderpull.

[fickle linden]

not true actually

it used old fatigue

[fierce light]

That's without including the base shot's dmg and they all will have the same final multiplier

[fickle linden]

i'm at 0 fatigue and reset happened during finishing the run

[quaint girder]

o i c

[amber terrace]

@balmy coral go nirriti hard?

[young ingot]

Are the new bosses limited time? The windscourge event ends today so im wondering if the bosses are going to go too

[cursive fable]

this game feels unplay with 0 mod:T.T

[drifting lance]

🎉 | 萧瑟秋风今又是 leveled up!

[fierce light]

One skill does about 2 charged attacks worth of accumulation, so yeah

[fierce light]

Bosses don't go away

[cursive fable]

the ice surge build

without any mod feels so shit

unlucky rng

[fierce light]

Frost Surge isn't worth using without Moderation

Probably better off using Toxin Surge or ILC.

[cursive fable]

ya too bad i DEed my ILC jade

t.t

how logn does it take for u guys to solo topaz

[chrome seal]

Is it just me or the showdown BP description is confusing?
Is the difference between 1360vs1960 gold ones is just 20 extra lvls advancement or also extra stuff for the more expensive one?

[fierce light]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1300937734466310272/1383646553214025778/getit.png?ex=68542a05&is=6852d885&hm=e86aee85f36b1bbef31ecaa8ced990a00efa3a7bba55ecb9c7dbb6512160ca88&
@cursive fable Friend of mine's time.

[fierce light]

Yeah, it just let's you skip 20 levels

[chrome seal]

Got it thanks

[young ingot]

Any tips on clearing Huanyue in NS? She destroys me in 2nd phase. Specially with the AOE attacks

[grand pier]

how do I level up faster? Idk if I'm a fan of this new showdown system lol

[lucid ore]

nirriti rn, I think it's actually a lot less grind than before

[grand pier]

oh damn my fire forge is back to 2

[lucid ore]

it's like ~3k? fatigue spread over 2 weeks if you never go to 75% rewards with the +50% bonus

[timid stirrup]

i'd have to agree here. cuz having to upgrade several jades to max sense if doing more than 1 build is a lot worse than just having to upgrade sense lvl as it is now

[grand pier]

I get you it's just that now that I did it, all the effort was quite literally pointless now

[lucid ore]

Trio! but if you're just solo then bow is good without a lot of sj investment. Otherwise I'd use ziping for melee if you don't have all the moderation etc

[timid stirrup]

not necessarily. sense wouldve been raised either way

[lucid ore]

yeah before you can't max out sense on the first week just like now also

the last 10 level were taking a good amount of grinds

[timid stirrup]

hell before if you wanted to switch builds you had to raise sense a 2nd time for the 2nd build

[cursive fable]

wow im at 8 windfall 0 mod :c

hi dark

do you just spam hard nitirui ruin?

instead ofnightscream ruin

i feel like hard drop is the same

[summer ridge]

Time to play showdown

I just want soul jades to dismantle

What going on wat am I missing out on

[grand pier]

I like showdown but this new update destroyed the game with matchmaking. I literally cannot find a single match in ranked at all, so all I play now is showdown

so to increase my firs forge all I do is pick up every codex?

[fierce light]

Showdown Levels

Level Stats

• Max level caps at 100.
• Every level gives +1 Attack, +5 Health & +5 Armor.
• • Every level after 80 gives +1 Attack, +5 Health & +5 Armor.
• Every 2 levels, up to level 80, gives +1 Potential Point.

XP Stats

• 2.2 Showdown XP is granted for every 1 Fatigue spent.
• • This rounds up to 100 Showdown XP for Nirriti's Ruins' 45 Fatigue cost.
• Showdown XP scales with your Reward %.
• Showdown Boosters multiplies the XP gained by 1.5.

Stage Levels

• Each stage has a recommended level.
• Being below the recommended will make you take increased damage and deal reduced damage.
• Being above the recommended level will make you deal increased damage and take reduced damage.

-# Tags: Sense, Account, Leveling, Experience.

@grand pier

[fierce light]

They're going to make her telegraphs a little better after the patch. Other than that you can practice doing dodges only to learn

[lucid ore]

that and just from doing it, kill x boss/clear x map etc will give stats. Go through it once at ns will give you the 100% rage at boss stage and that will speed your clear up by a bit cuz you can just use ult at 3/8/13 and ult boss

[fierce light]

You only run Nightscream if you want the new jades or to clear seasonal challenges. Otherwise, run Hard as they have the same drop rate.

[cursive fable]

ya, and i think topaz is not worth running it

too slow and not rewarding effort wise

basically just do hard nitriuii to clear out fatigue as for now?

im avging 4-5min per run solo for hard nitirui

[fierce light]

Yeah just try to complete as many challenges as you can and collect any rings you haven't before to fill your collection.

[lucid ore]

is this including the loading time etc? or just in-game timer?

I set a timer outside and tried and my time in-game was like 3 mins or so but outside it's like 6 mins

[fierce light]

Pretty much add 1-3 minutes to your finish time to see how long it actually took you. Depending on if you're speedrunning through or taking it casual.

[lucid ore]

I need tempered inferno back bad

[fierce light]

Enigma Topaz probably worth running if you have a strong build

[balmy coral]

Jwu

Is the game up?

[balmy coral]

We all do

[crimson cave]

i feel like ns spam is better than hard spam for ruins

in trios ns already feels like a cheese

and i think queues are almost instant for ns

[fierce light]

Yeah you can still run it, there's just no incentive to past the Seasonal Challenges and new jades.

[flat compass]

is the update up

[heavy gulch]

In 2-3 hours

[flat compass]

O ok

[fierce light]

You can download the update now, but the servers will take a bit to come back up.

[fierce light]

The new Level Suppression doesn't seem far from last seasons'.

[fickle linden]

so in the end they never added any achievements for inferno like they had in test servers

[balmy coral]

most likely no, but well too early for that.

[lone umbra]

the crafting material which i understand is chaos stones will be removed along with curios but will the material we get when smelting the curio stay?

[plain spire]

Nitiri drop

No more rare jades?

[fierce light]

Ah so it does replace them all.

[cursive kestrel]

[plain spire]

you need 24/24 to use it XD

[balmy coral]

They didn't remove the rares

[plain spire]

yeah it becomes an eyesore now

[balmy coral]

souveinirs I guess

[plain spire]

should have the option to deconstruct

[timid stirrup]

wait that is more than it costs to convert them

at least with converting theres a chance for rare attribute or a legendary jade

[crimson cave]

you done doom already?

anyone wanna join for doom 12 stars (sea)

[balmy coral]

since when there was a boss here lol

[crimson cave]

its time to swim swim

(in esquie voice)

[balmy coral]

I am

[crimson cave]

damn, wheres the boss tho

sank?

[crimson cave]

how about come join for doom domain 0-12 stars

[plain spire]

i already finish it, you need help ?

[lucid ore]

new nirriti drops looking good

[crimson cave]

we onnthe last 2 missions

maybe for the speedrun one so we have 3d

[fierce light]

These new mini fragments are pretty handy

Can see how many non-rares you got

[fierce light]

It's a better ratio than before on average.

[cursive fable]

hi dark

hurts

lol

you know what +3 means without needing to know the languanage:c

but at least i got 1 mod on another jade

[fierce light]

Yeah i didn't get the last Windfall on my ice Surge

[cursive fable]

should i DE this?

or nah

cuz if i DE it ,its gonna be 1 full rare crystal

but the ice blast damage is 30% already, attack is 4%

would feel bad doing so

2 justina 1 ziping is fastest comp?

i think 1 zipign is good for the heals

[fierce light]

Probably should've declined it, if all 3 of those were maxed non-rares

[balmy coral]

u still get rare jades on these boxes

[cursive fable]

feel bad

esp 2nd rare is scorch

[quaint girder]

Anyone up for Doom?

[crimson cave]

just killed the wolf girl

she sucks ngl

[river stratus]

im down for speedrun

[quaint girder]

Sweet

[quaint girder]

1867400000164

[surreal saffron]

you guys full?

[quaint girder]

Nope need one more

[surreal saffron]

181100010164

[lone umbra]

not a bad drop

[hidden creek]

oh god

[lone umbra]

no catchup?

[hidden creek]

yes ketchup

terrible drops tho

[lone umbra]

wait they call rewards =buff in your language?

[hidden creek]

this? yeah

150% buff means you get 150% rewards

[lone umbra]

yeah

[lone umbra]

is it correct translation though?

[hidden creek]

isn't it how fatigue works?

🤔

[lone umbra]

no i mean is reward = buff in ur language?

[hidden creek]

no it isn't

[lone umbra]

what a translator

[balmy coral]

Lol

[plain spire]

150% nirriti ruins

[balmy coral]

Drop rate is even more fuc up than yesterday it seems

[crimson cave]

toxic arrows or fire arrows for bow build?

[plain spire]

poison for bow

[hidden creek]

toxic/frost/thunder, not burn

[fierce light]

Fire Arrows are the one type you don't want

[crimson cave]

okay

thanks

[hidden creek]

you can go with whatever between poison/frost/thunder

[crimson cave]

frost is okay but toxin are the bedt overall?

[hidden creek]

no? they're all the same

[crimson cave]

ok

what about element wielding?

doesnt matter?

[hidden creek]

doesn't really matters but if you want to squeeze out every dps then ig 2 of each

[crimson cave]

thats what i thought

thank you

[hidden creek]

according to this chart made by dark

[crimson cave]

for stats i look for
attack
ranged damage
damage do bosses
rares: windfall?

[hidden creek]

yeah

[crimson cave]

[fierce light]

So it looks like the elemental shots give double the Deadeye Charge of the base shots. @quaint girder

So with them it takes 8 body shots/ 7 headshots, instead of 17 body shots/14 headshots.

[hidden creek]

what's the trick for 2399 fatigue i forgot

🥹

[lone umbra]

xD

you loose one match nirriti i guess?

[fierce light]

Just slide in a chapter mission or Enigma Domain at some point

[hidden creek]

oh

🤔 should i do some enigma farming this week tho

nirriti drops looks ew

[lone umbra]

that is even more ewww

unless you wanna waste gold keys

[balmy coral]

Enigma drop looks fine but I was using gold key and elixir

4 gold jades every run

Without elixir I get 2 gold jade and some purple

[hidden creek]

brown key

not bad for 30 fatigue ig

[lone umbra]

not bad

[hidden creek]

compare to nirriti

[lone umbra]

last week it was trash

complete trash

1 crystal and 1 purple

[cursive fable]

nitirii is fastest fatigue burn

[lone umbra]

until inferno comes

[cursive fable]

ye

[hidden creek]

it's the beginning of the season

you cap your fatigue every week anyway

[river stratus]

save for enigma peak gold keys

elixir too

[plain spire]

i tried tracking arrow and when i aim way above the boss head it hits headshot

[drifting lance]

🎉 | ƒisher[SEA] leveled up!

[balmy coral]

It's not even complete lol

[hidden creek]

is the tracking feature worth it for a slot on bow build is the question

how tf did this chain crush missed

[lone umbra]

boss saw it coming he dodged

but yeah it is weird

[hidden creek]

i think the chain crush position will appear on the exact position that the uncharged melee attack which triggered it hits

so i hit the boss's leg with my melee attack

and chain crush appear at that exact position after a short delay

but the aoe is smol af and the boss kinda moved abit from when it got hits with my melee

so chain crush missed

[lone umbra]

yeah looked like it

the chain crush happend at the location of uncharged hit

[balmy coral]

Lol

[lone umbra]

and boss moved

[balmy coral]

Ye thats why u should dash too far

How come y'all having so bad drops on nirriti

[lone umbra]

should or shouldnt?

[hidden creek]

doesn't have anything to do with it

[balmy coral]

Shouldn't

My bad

[hidden creek]

which is dumb
they should make it tracks the boss position in real time
instead of blindly follows the melee attack coordinate

[lone umbra]

true there is delay and AOE is small

[balmy coral]

Chain crush has a limited radius is what I understand from it.

Happens to me often on Justina

[hidden creek]

the thing is it took the melee hit coordinate to spawn chain crush

instead of tracking the boss coordinate to spawn it

[lone umbra]

agree where is melee assist

[hidden creek]

like lotus for example

doesn't matters where you hit the boss

the lotus spawn will track current boss position

[lone umbra]

even if location tracking of melee attack AOE should be bigger

[hidden creek]

which could still make it miss if the boss travelled a long distance in a short period of time, but it's better than this

[balmy coral]

Most likely this

[hidden creek]

i know

rly can't afford missing chain crush cuz it does too much damages

[balmy coral]

Now that's a drop

[lone umbra]

using elixir?

[balmy coral]

Nope

[lone umbra]

that is great drop

[balmy coral]

150% rewards only

[lone umbra]

juicy drop

[cursive fable]

finally got a decent one

my rare crystal didnt end up being scorch lol

[balmy coral]

Got me 2 windfalls today, good drops what a nice day.

[crimson cave]

understandable have a nice day

[lone umbra]

Me wasted one flux jade to get scorching

Got 5 mod on ILC build
Now wanna replace it with windfall and my ILC will be done

[balmy coral]

I'm not gonna continue my ILC for now. I will save frags

I will get another flux from yama next week so in case I fuc that up I could fix it

[lone umbra]

Ur ice surge got full ?

[lone umbra]

Same.. today I got one from seasonal quests and wasted

Now I gonna save up remaining 2

[balmy coral]

Please put a discount in this

[balmy coral]

Full Ice surge

I'm missing 3 windfalls and 1 mod

[lone umbra]

ohh

[balmy coral]

I can't do any upgrade without flux now

[lone umbra]

same.. although i m done with rare in ice surge but in ILC got 5 mod and 7 windfall so wanna fix

or i will go for bow build

but need to get good with that build

[balmy coral]

I'm skeptical

That's why I wanna save up if ever it'd be easy to build one

[crimson cave]

ya lets run sd

[hidden creek]

same lmao

but my ILC which shares 4 jades with ice surge only got 75% mod atm

so i'm fine with my ice surge being 125% mod

[balmy coral]

Literally got 6 windfalls if it was for my surge sub zero build but I'm losing a mod

I hope to get 1 more mod

[hidden creek]

2% attack and 15% ice is not that big of a deal anyway if you don't compete for top 3 yama

[balmy coral]

Current Yama stage sux

[lone umbra]

i mean i m fine too that's why i m saving rest 2 flux jade for other build

[balmy coral]

Still have this 3 slotted jade ..

[lone umbra]

that is myth in SEA server someone will always throw you out

[balmy coral]

[hidden creek]

yeah lmfao we got showdown dedicated chambers that will do everything to shave 1 more second on their yama run

it's sweaty af 😂

[lone umbra]

i just going to try for top 10 for 1 week for the achievement and then forget abt it

[lone umbra]

Exactly

[balmy coral]

Just one more please.

[crimson cave]

you can get it in sd pass

[balmy coral]

I need 10 levels to get 1 it's not possible.

[crimson cave]

bros waiting

[balmy coral]

Lol

How come

Did u buy levels?

[crimson cave]

nope

maybe i bought advanced pass tho

[balmy coral]

AHHH advanced makes sense

[hidden creek]

normal af
i didn't even use bp xp booster i'm already at 60

with 2000 fatigue left

[crimson cave]

come play showdown with me

[balmy coral]

Are u from SEA?

[lone umbra]

yeah am around 54/55 but today haven’t played much only 225 fatigue spent

[balmy coral]

I'm gonna watch a movie so maybe tonight

[crimson cave]

im crunk...

core

lol

[balmy coral]

managed to spend 560 now. The drops earlier were so good

[balmy coral]

Later tonight

maybe will let u know

[crimson cave]

kk

[balmy coral]

I got like 400 fragments

Already

[hidden creek]

tf is this delay

[lone umbra]

arrow took a rain check

[hidden creek]

😭

[balmy coral]

Ye this patch is broken.

[hidden creek]

balls of steel omnius

[balmy coral]

Got a defuse that passed thru the boss, late random parries.

[crimson cave]

not bad too

[hidden creek]

[balmy coral]

Ye same drops

It's either 100 or zero

[crimson cave]

yeah lol

[balmy coral]

They probably messed up the drop rates again

Not surprised

[balmy coral]

u were using elixir no?

800 xp is twice what u could possibly get

[cursive fable]

hi @balmy coral

[balmy coral]

Hello

[cursive fable]

im 2 mod 6 wf now

[balmy coral]

Good job

[cursive fable]

on the new surge set 😄

should i just chill now loll

[balmy coral]

4 more rares and u are complete

[cursive fable]

dont wanna do 2400 fatigue every week

hopefully this set last me a while lol

[balmy coral]

u can still grind til 2k fatigue

Then save up the frags until u get another flux

So u can fix it if u make get a bad rare

[cursive fable]

i h

[balmy coral]

Or get a new build

[cursive fable]

should i Disenchant this

[balmy coral]

No

[cursive fable]

kk just use rare crystal on scorching?

[balmy coral]

I'd recast that scorching into Dmg to boss attribute

[cursive fable]

ye

it was max attribute lol

[balmy coral]

Value doesn't matter it'd be near maxed

[balmy coral]

You shouldn't have accepted that

[cursive fable]

ya i was hesisting to disenchant

since it would give me 2 fluxes

[balmy coral]

Don't getting one windfall is already expensive

• max

I'd say just leave it

[cursive fable]

ye how many Mod/wf do you have atm?

[balmy coral]

For Ice surge u need 4

[cursive fable]

i feel like 8 WF isnt as that important

[balmy coral]

3 is acceptable but u need 4

[cursive fable]

ya u can walk away with less than 8 WF

ya but 3-4 mod is absolutely needed

[balmy coral]

You will get another flux next week on Yama astral 3

[cursive fable]

3 mod is sufficient on justina?

[balmy coral]

You have one more chance to fix it

[cursive fable]

ya lets say

if i roll this into scorch

[balmy coral]

I'd say manageable but

[cursive fable]

should i just Disencahnt it

[balmy coral]

Ppl would disagree

[balmy coral]

Recast charge

It's the lowest value

[cursive fable]

ya

i mean after i recast charged dmg to Scorch(unlucky situation)

should i just disenchant it for flux

and build a brand new frostite chain

[balmy coral]

Depends on u

But I'd keep it

All my attribute values are only 3%

[cursive fable]

this game is really RNG lol

if the flux jade (2nd rare) ends up being non-scorch

you can obtain 4 mod 8 wf super fast

but if you keep getting scorch, then shit will take like months

[crimson cave]

tbia pass should be longer

[balmy coral]

That happened to me last season

Literally building Ice surge was 100% better than poison so no regret destroying it

[cursive fable]

ya surge is gonna be bis for tempered inferno too

its all about killing the boss fast enough lol

[crimson cave]

what are the jades for ice surge?

[balmy coral]

Tampered inferno was fun

Y'all would enjoy it drops wise and game-wise

It's fast and addictive

[cursive fable]

ya i mean doesnt the game gets boring

[balmy coral]

Pins

[cursive fable]

after our setup is finished?

like 4 mod 8 wf

[balmy coral]

Also, u don't need a complete build to contribute

Cos curios were Op

[cursive fable]

ya

is this alot of gold keys?

i never use them loll

[balmy coral]

I have 60

[cursive fable]

hard to find groups, i just solo ruins mostly

[balmy coral]

rn

When peak opens it'd be easier to find a party there

Just wait til next month

[crimson cave]

im at 110

[balmy coral]

Then one month after Inferno will open

[crimson cave]

lets grind lets grind

[balmy coral]

Drinking

[crimson cave]

found it thx

[crimson cave]

hhh