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ready for next season then
Works like that in pvp too, especially with weird terrains
You end up getting questionavle freezes with v2
well prolly because of its hitbox is actually the ice fog not the ice trail on the ground

if thats the end of ur fatigue im so sorry
how u unlocked that?
just spend fatigue
to spen them where bro
Mech has been useless since they added her in lol. But yeah CN is saying Musket is viable.
anywhere
i do nirriti and enigma
how much need to spend
don't remember
~2.2 XP per Fatigue.
@hidden creek would that skin return ever again?
what skin?
justina
it's a battlepass skin so yeah it might return in the future
via retro bazaar or events similar to that
not current season
@fierce light bruh ice surge got a major issue
the ice thorn dmg are too high it 1shot the small mobs, not allowed ice blast to happens so i couldn't get my F back
It's kinda a problem with both. Lotus makes the mobs just low enough where they die from the skill itself
yeah but for lotuses you could kinda control it to a certain degree
this one when you use your skill the ice thorn are summoned and does damages immediately
even before the skill could hit
Fair, can hit it from up close though usually
Also, I notice Justina's ult could slow down frostbite
don't think it does
It does
When I was about to freeze up, just pop Justina ult and it'd stop the frostbite from freezing u
lol
that's because when you're casting the ult you're in gold focus
and being in gold focus make you immune to freeze
Oh that's why
Playing with Surge is so tricky sometimes u gotta weigh my chance of defusing the frostbite, avoiding it with ult or taking a hit from the boss.
Ultimate usually gives damage reduction
Ye but some bosses moveset won't let u get pass thru with her F
If you're about to take a hit though, usually good to just defuse anyway
Yes.
😂 yea
I'm recasting after I max fatigue, maybe I'll pass the threshold
yeah it also depends on luck
sometimes 1st phase even though he lost all his hp but the transition to 2nd phase somehow got delayed
Ye lmao
It feels so weird
Yup, I just re when that happens
Especially, with hell scorch cos it gotta throw all the projectiles before transition
like he's in the middle of an attack animation but we bursted him quick enough
but he can't cancel the attack
the attack is still hapenning but the animation stop playing
Oh 15s in Trios?
so we gotta wait til the whole attack was over, only then he'll get to 2nd phase
solo
bro literally 4/6 of my bow jades doesn't even have 3rd and 4th attribute cuz i ran out of shrouded jades
Lol
desperation remain active with kurumi healing?
Yeah if you're still low
ok
My last run with fatigue for the week I got it
lol
i thought you got it already
with how you emptied ur fatigue every week
i'm at 518 😂
Already found a problem area in Topas around celestra
hero borrow on doom no fill is showing wrong numers lol
Foggy area on the outskirts tanked my Frame rate down to probably 15fps
Ofc
nightscream and legend nirrit have same drop rate ?
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same drop rate, same drop pool
then it better to farm on nightscream ?
depends
if you still need soul jades from ns stages
then you could consider farming ns
if you only need jades to descontruct for fragments to upgrade then run hard
no one farm legend
The luck boost from Yin Yang was stopping me from it
thx
But since Nirriti's doesn't include it, I got plenty of all-blue runs 🥹
That aside, pretty decent progress. +2 Windfalls on my Bow build and got the last Windfall for my ILC build.
I wish I screenshotted my stats before
Oh wait, it might be in my video
Nice, it is
i can use some of your rescource xD
what resource lmao
i got 0 crystals 0 fragments 1 shrouded jade
🤣
581 one xD
damn 650 attack
- +83 Attack
- +43 Base Attack
- +2.39% Attack
- -0.1% Charged Attack DMG
- +14.2% Ranged Weapon DMG Bonus
- +4.8% DMG to Bosses
About to try it in Yama's
Holy
💀
Bro was changing phases when he landed

What is max percent of range resist?
it's on pinned
gg
I can't open the doc
been there
Meant to update that
wat a bug
lol
Locked up
60% dmg to boss on ranged bow is not worth right? compared to 45% dmg to boss + 45% ranged weapon dmg?
Yeah definitely not
Only need 1 row of rares for ranged thankfully
Gets worse the more you add
??????
Survival boon
it doesn't counts?
Just counts as 1
fuck
Feel bad for those without boosters, but newbies do need to learn the enemies
I have boosters
Really hope it's not the map for Peak
what does windfall actually do?
Ye I don't wanna waste too much time running around
I won't recast until I max my fatigue atp
Add additional stats basically doubling it
If Im right
Windfall
Increases the value of Attributes on the same Souljade by 30/40/50%.
Attack +4%
DMG to Bosses +5%
Poison Blast DMG +30%
[Windfall] +50%```
is equal to
Attack +6%
DMG to Bosses +7.5%
Poison Blast DMG +45%```
Which is the same as multiplying all the other the Attributes on the Souljade by 1.5.
-# Tags: Rare, Attribute, WF
where i can find depth blast souljade ?
i gone there but since i droped it and deconstruct it before the new guide it doesn't show me where xd
There should be rows of jades on the right
That have the map they drop from under it.
it's already better than before
plus there's nothing that requires level 100 to do rn anyway
where is that i can't find it
Finding Where Souljades Drop
- In the Showdown Lobby, go to the Preparation tab.
- Enter Equip Souljades.
- Go down to Souljade Conversion.
- To the right of the Convert button, there is a symbol; click on that.
There will be tabs you can go through that show what stage unlocks/drops each Souljade.
I'm not around my Xbox atm so can't clip it
ty ty
Oh def
I don't miss old sense leveling
But I want to max to 100 so I can Enigma farm with Wuchen to level swarm faster
Making a Poison build?
Probably with Wuchen
just spam gelid yushan man
Kinda a pain I never did any hero cultivation only weapons
bow was like the first one and it was in ranked matches
@amber terrace Do u still have gold keys?
yea
Wanna do topaz? In 1 hour
i'm capped
bruh
i could select special attribute before in auto recast this time i cant what happened?
Nu
I want to burn fatigue and get jades too
Next week might be the week of Enigma
if ur crystal to fragment ratio is too bad yeah
otherwise idk
enigma doesn't seems worth with neither gold key or brown key
and 30 fatigue per run gosh
nvm, got the answer alr 
Fair, just starting to dread Nirriti
@fierce lightQ: Poison Element Surge +20% attack doest need special effect to trigger?
im making this musket set, tried it in training and dmg 50k headshot no aegis
The stat buffs from it are always active.
i see thnx
Yeah that's the Deadsky build on the site. Not saying you copied it
where do you get scarlet guanyin? I can't find it in the drop page
narakapedia > commemorative souljades or whatever it's called > season 2.0
then you can exchange it for 2 fragments
oh you can just buy out the old undroppable jades?
wild - and wilder that it's not like, advertised in the game. Any other old ones I should pick up while I'm there?
Unlikely to be many you pull from there since they were underused. Scarlet Guanyin just a unique case since Musket got buffed.
none of the other weapon moves are particularily broken or relevant?
you got 2 gold keys in 1 run tf you mean
anyone can help me doom?
Nope
Yeah, id?
okay
You there?
-1 haha
does renewed vigor count the training ground's heal effect or does it have to proc off something else
It doesn't
ty
why does the musket build use thunder charge if you don't hjave surge to trigger it? or does surge just always trigger and you just have upgrades to it via surge jades
thanks
Wdym?
It does have Surge
oh I'm blind
Kinda funny I'm back to using my Backfire and Desperation I made back in one of the first seasons of Showdown.
that spring call rifle build seems to be putting up better numbers for me than backfire desperation while also being safer
iirc it was tabbie's suggestion?
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ok Frosbite surge pretty sick lol
is venomous lotus good?
Oh dang
Congrats
Not anymore
so ghastbloom better?
using gold keys?
Yes
Never knew that's possible
is ghastbloom good i have a poison one?
yea ghastbloom still usable in alternate new lotus chain build
u can check pins for various builds
so it's better than venomous lotus?
not sure about poison though
you'd run both - ghastbloom is payoff, venemous is a generator
You want to do her Skill into the 1st Stage Vertical.
You'll pop Ice Blast quicker and more often.
oh so i should replace toxified lotus?
Ima still hold strong for Peak, have a feeling its drops are going to be insane with Gold Keys and I'm low on them.
it's kind of last season's build so I don't have it off the top of my head, but iirc you run both? with ghast, the more you generate, the more it procs
so you just generate a million lotuses and ghastbloom turns any overflow into bonus dmg
iirc this was it?
Ty. Good to know.
you need someone with an easy to spam martial break to dump poison stacks via infectous touch
kurumi etc
is this build good as the new element surge freeze
it's last season's - worse, but it's still useable
the new ones are just that but with the new chain and surge jades
I have three of them but don't have pestilent and noxious I have bolt mastry is that good?
Hmm, I haven't tested a Poison Lotus Chain build.
poison in general is worse than ice, both last and current season, but if you have the jades it's not terrible
if you don't have pool you should drop touch, that's sort of a two jade combo
and you can probably slot in the chain and surge jades instead, compare it to the new ice lotus chain
oh
ehh it is not terrible but even mid ice build would surpass maxed poison build
I have surge one
yeah for sure just thinking like, if ppl are new and have most of the poison jades it's not terrible
so ice build better?
certainly better than basalt armor armored artist it reccommends
yep ice better in overall comparison
oh justina it is ice meta
yeah she cracked
It used to be specifically for Inferno but without the curious it's just stale
hm I didn't see it that often over ice, but that could just be the particles being brighter lol
I miss kurumi being able to have fun via curios
Poison only better on heroes who can't use Ice effectively, like Kurumi (without Curio) and Wuchen.
But because they suck on Ice, they're not very meta atm either.
Can u test ILC on zip too?
I literally only have these two builds.
I just noticed I accidentally fixed all my scorching problems to even better results.
I'm back where I badly need flux again
Ziping I already did:
So dps Chain is a bit better but overall dmg surge wins
No, that's just the damage per loop, but Surge has a longer loop cause of the 25s Frostbite Surge.
Ice Lotus Chain loops when Frostbite Chain hits.
Will u b testing a poison lotus chain build? Just in case poison wins in Inferno again

So, I'd still prefer Surge over chain for zip
Yeah, the more enemies there are, the more effective Poison Lotus builds become over Toxin Surge. I'll still try parsing against a single target.
No, Chain is better.
Pretty much can ignore the Total Damage, it's going to be higher since Chain's rotation is longer. Chain also assumes you're able to get her Ice Blasts off in a timely manner within the 25s window for Frostbite Surge.
Which often won't be the case in an active fight.
Yes, that actively applies on justina.
Yeah, Justina is a different story.
She's probably more concerned about filling the Ice Blast downtime, than the Ice Blast itself lol
I haven't done any frame counting on her yet though since it'll be tedious to manage the clips from my Xbox.
Ye can be done another day. Thanks
yeah i hve been struggling to remember that
Her rotation's pretty simple though.
Skill, Vertical, 1st Horizontal Charge, Aegis-Break
I like to do a little jump after the Aegis-Break to make sure the next Skill doesn't go off too early.
Same
nice what did you do?
Recasted a rare into another rare
Then got maxed attri from 2 scorching this morning
nice
I can focus on Ice lotus Chain for my zip now
full mod?
coz justina free mod
Ye Surge too good 
EXACTLY THIS
Justina taught me patience cos I can't just go wildin wasting her F/V
Haha yup, feels so bad when her skill is gone
Unless you cast her Ultimate, then the rotation feels good with the buffed Aegis-Break
Does the vertical after skill have a dash effect? cuz when I've done it she doesn't move from the ending spot
Yeah sometimes it'll gap close
So it's a random dash ok cool I must've never noticed
Would noxious blast, ghastbloom, toxified lotus, element surge, toxified chain, toxin seep make up poison lotus chain?
Ye sometimes I just stand there waiting to defuse or waiting for a parry to gain rage.
Cos vertical/horizontal charge are absolute shit.
Then use ult when the boss is nearly down/down already.
Never felt so satisfied
Also Level 99 now
Just lazy to grind at 1.4k fatigue.
Weekly borrow hero give you 3099 attack ! 
Something is messing up the numbers on this function.
Iirc someone posted here earlier too
are u fucking kidding me ? gold key and 3k yin yang luck
doing chapter give more reward than this
For me, when I play nirriti it's usual bad drops or catch up but when topaz I get a bounty
nirriti has better drop than this gold key run
try nirriti hard
I had to farm crystal at one point too cos it was catching up to frags
been farming nirriti hard only better drop than this shit
i ran out of both 
If u use elxiri the highest crystal I got today was 8 in one run
i get atleast 4/5 crystal per nirriti run
crystal is still 50 something but fragments are 0
I can help if u need one with gold keys
That's +4k luck
I will save up the gold key for peak runs. Just wanted to see the drops
I m deeply devastated
Scarlet Guanyin is this need a translation or Why dont I see this jade
Old jade from 2.0 that u might've trashed
Narakapedia/commemorative/season 2.0 deepwood
Hello
on what to i focus now since season was over and new started?
lm still on old build for ice?
are u sure ?
i didnt do full stat farming for old ice
so theres that
but when i swap tundra to surge it deal more damage
with the same stat
just atk ice blast and armor
they also sell surge bonus on the potential tree aswell
wheres that
atk bonus while you on surge or after
on what tree i dont get it 🙂
in the potential tree you have nodes for surge bonus
i think it's on the red and green tree

I thought flux recasting a rare would rule that rare out
So instead of 33% for what I need I'd have 50%
But apparently I'm being offered 30% windfall to replace my 50%
Ice lotus chain will b the build quickest to make if u built lotus last season
this is my potential now
It's also the build used by most heroes
got elemental surge mate
Swap tundra might with element surge
And frostbound lotus with frostbite chain
New nightscream chapter
Or nirriti Nightscream
Nirriti Nightscream better to spam though
Do nirriti Nightscream spam
I got new jades from that
bro i dint even unlock new one
i need to do from first one
oh nirriti
legend or nightscream to spam only?
nightscream
frosbite chaini is locked for me
no need to spam legend
what server you play? if SEA then i can play
eu
Nirriti nightscream can drop any of the new jade, even if you didn't clear the mission yet
After dying last week and maxing at lvl 62
I’m catching up quickly
maybe farming jade event coming soon
I’m doing Jade event rn
tired of Nirriti
We can do Nirriti together

Whoa whoa
Where OR HOW do we get these?????
Also @fierce light the nightscream wolf boss is down.
Had to do it with justina; was a slightly longer encounter than I wanted but melee justina, on a frost surge build (minus chain at that time) melee range is a suggestion lol
In nirriti using certain heroes Useless Rock will turn into Inferno Hero and will grant the ws
Anima selection
Mostly
Also depending on the fire forge attributes
Jades n potential don't work in nirriti
Fire forge max attribute lvl is 24
Atk +, health +, n I wanna say Armor +
has this happened to anyone else 
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what happened?
I have no clue, it's the second time it's happened, where the gravestones just don't have any textures. This room appeared again later in the same game of Nirriti's but the textures were fine
How can I quickly level up to lvl 100?
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Nirriti ruin
Just spam normal mode bc hard doesn’t give more xp just more reward drops for jades
And stuff

Group health while using mech
Whole team never dies
Are u using xp boost
From 0-599 fatigue you can get 3 levels per run
That’s wat I did
Once I reach 100 I can focus on soul jades
I like using thunder 
If you die
You lose a lot more fatigue
I died a lot
Only got to lvl 62 last week
Now that the reset is here I’m lvl 91 now
I’m almost caught up with everyone in level

I got to LVL 81 last time
I don't know, I upgraded last time to 81
Major buffs to Poison and Toxin
Not sure if it will be enough though
You'd need Pestilent Pool for it to work. Otherwise, just be summoning one Blossom Blast per Poison Blast.
i was at work during that time so i randomly listed what i could think of. i figured pestilent pool was needed but idk whaat to remove for it
maybe surge or seep
Element Surge powercreeps Tundra Might. It gives slightly more Frostbite accumulation and is always active. So you're not at low accumulation rate for your first rotation when using Frostbound Lotus.
Your first rare should always be without flux. You're wasting them otherwise.
In Nirriti's Ruins. It's just called Inferno Hero now though. Seems like only Viper, Tarka, Matari and Temulch can get them.
Did they nerf Bow ?
Sounds like either the Pistol Souljade or they meant Toxin Blast (effect that occurs when you reach 6 [Toxified] stacks)?
i think buff
Potential [Shocking and Escape] Now allows Ranged Weapons Successful Counter to connect Dodge to After them. The strikes are now available
Noxious Blast. Can't activate Toxin Surge without Pestilent Pool.
Oh nice, that makes Thunder Musket a bit better

@fierce light they remove effect on element musket
but increase coffe
to 3.5
Souljades [Thunder Shot]. [Ice Bomb]. [Toxic Bomb] increases the total coefficient of additional strikes caused by [Toxic Bomb] to 3.5, and removes "Buffs that increase the accumulation of Elements that Monster suffers."
Oh toxic bomb is for Musket then
So that's likely going to be the new core jade for it and allow Musket to build Deadeye faster
They should buff Thunder

They are
+15% Divine Thunder DMG on Element Surge & +20% Divine Thunder DMG on Element Afterglow.
I got two thunder builds C:
o thats kinda nice
I want 50% buff for me only

so 20 blues before would net on average 1.15 frags
Unless the new recast material drops at a rate of 2 or higher per blue jade, it'll be a worse rate
now they would be netting basically 1.66 frags per 20
They should buff this build for me


if new material drops more than 1
New Rate
1 / 24 = 4.167%
1 Blue Souljade = 1/24 of a Recast.
Old Rate
(1 / 20) × (0.9 × 1 + 0.1 × 4) × (1 / 2) = 3.25%
1 Blue Souljade = 1/30.7 of a Recast
then its even crazier
Why it like that
Even if you get a Purple Jade, it's worth more if it deconstructs to only 1.
Advanced timing of golden armor rune appearance for ring sword qi attack in [Huan Yue] first phase.
Adjusted [Huan Yue] AI for both phases, reduced frequency of some multi-hit moves, and activated moves better match attack distance.
How
what's they add?
but u take into account u need 2 frags
I need more mats for recast
for 1 reroll
Yeah idk why they made the telegraph so late for that tbh. Hits too hard for it to be so sudden.
Oh wait
o wait i actually made small error too
the rate of legendary is 10%
so old rate is 1.3 then
and new rate is 1.66
what rate?
I’m now in 7th place in Yama abyss
New Rate
1 / 24 = 4.167%
1 Blue Souljade = 1/24 of a Recast.
Old Rate
(1 / 20) × (0.9 × 1 + 0.1 × 4) × (1 / 2) = 3.25%
1 Blue Souljade = 1/30.7 of a Recast
+28.2% more Recast Value.
When you account for Catch Up, I wonder how close that puts us to the average when we get below average drops.
well its rather inconsequential impact on below average drops
since difference between average and below average is just a few jades being blue instead of purple/gold
- 7.1% more Fragments for
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- Nirriti's Ruins (Normal)
- 4.9% more Fragments for
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- Enigma Topaz
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- Chapter Missions (Hard)
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- Tempered Inferno (Normal)
- 3.6 - 3.7% more Fragments for
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- Enigma Peak
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- Nirriti's Ruins (Hard)
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- Nirriti's Ruins (Nightscream)
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- Nirriti's Ruins (Legend)
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- Chapter Missions (Nightscream)
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- Tempered Inferno (Nightscream)
Any tips for Immovable Nightscream? I can't pass the damn solo mission
It's not that bad, would've reached it casually doing what you'd normally do
- Don't build pendulums.
- They can knock mobs into other lanes and get them stuck in awkward places, making it much harder to kill them in bulk.
- Nether Bells are a good investment.
- You can shoot them with your Ranged Weapon and it'll stun everything in the surrounding area (except bosses).
- Only one altar needs to survive, don't spread yourself thin.
wait there are other altars?
also yeah second the bells - I did it with zping for the aoe grouping on spinny spear so mob packs were pretty easy
and once the bosses aggro you a little they stop wailing on the thing so that takes a lot of time pressure off
Want to hit 100 for ez Enigma farm for Swarm levels on Wuchen
After Swarm is done, then I am free to experiment
is swarm not a meme weapon in showdown?
The normal version only has one I think, but the others should have 3.
Right now it is. Until it gets it's Deadeye Skill.
Musket buff is looking promising. If it works anything like Bow, then the multiplier on Skyrender should improve and more Deadeye Rate.
There's only 1 altar though
But thx, I'll try that
I'm just grinding swarm for the weapon levels, free Tae is free Tae
I'm trying Spring's Call right now
So compared to my raw damage it loses out by 1k on fully buffed Headshots.
Spring's Call is like 48.5k while Desperation is like 49.5k
Also cannot perform Deadsky backflips due to nature of Counters.
However
I played around with elements and went with max Thunder Wielding and landing every DT under buff would be like 21k damage plus 28kCA headshot
Which is almost as much as a raw headshot
So Tabbie's build might be the actual DT build over Thunder Charge because you can build Attack, DMG Boss, and DT Damage and it will deal a lot of damage for both Elemental and Headshots
Doubly so if you go Windfall on that final slot over Ranged DMG
The builds are as follows:
Spring's Call:
- Spring's Call
- Thunderpull
- Thundercounter
- Ice Break
- Sub Zero Seal
- Scarlet/Guanyin
Potential Tree is the Red/Blue Tree Tabbie and Zero made for Bow
My Raw Damage:
- Desperation
- Renewed Vigor
- Backfire
- Shattered Edge
- Scarlet Guanyin
- Elemental Surge (Poison)
Build is Green/Blue Build.
I'm testing my raw build with the Bow Red/Blue Potential vs my Renewal Green Tree and which one comes out on top
Yep, Red/Blue Tree dropping Renewal still comes out on top
So @fierce light Deadsky should be:
- Element Surge Poison
- Bolt Mastery
- Desperation
- Shattered Edge
- Backfire
- Scarlet Guanyin
Potential is Red/Blue Tree
Substats are Attack, Ranged DMG, Damage to Boss, and Windfall
For reference my renewal got 49.5k and the Red/Blue tree got 52k even after dropping Renewal
So Renewal is complete dead and worthless, rest in peace my child, you walked so everyone else can run
I'm gonna be comparing Spring's Call to Thunder Charge and see which one performs better currently
Justina Frost Surge go brrr
for sets or "wielding" effect each char has its own or it does not matter which build u go?
Lmaooo
Probably going to replace Scarlet Guanyin with a Ranged Element Jade.
Element Surge?
Or like Toxic Shot
Ranged Element, yeah like Toxic Shot
It's very important, but more so dependant on the Souljades you're using rather than the hero (except Justina who always wants an Ice build).
If the Ranged Element Jades are at least a 26.7% DMG increase to Musket's base multipliers, then it'll be better in every case.
im trying to build tessa, yoto hime and justina
well honestly i have no idea what wielding does anyway xD
I recommend checking on the site as it lists what wielding each build wants.
Currently or when they buf
what are these tho?
Pretty sure that's the target attributes you want on the actual souljades
the 3 stats?
Yeah

I think you can use shrouded jades to imbue more attributes too
So essentially it's min-maxing
Yeah
I just tried it
You use souljades to add more attributes
When they buff, right now it's:
- 18.3% increase for Shoulder Shot.
- 9.6% increase for Aim (Shot)
- 3.85% increase for Skyrender Shot
Use the "Shrouded Jade"s to add more attributes too. So instead of legendary souljades having 3 attributes, they'll have 4
Oh u are not using Surge?
The total attributes you want among the 6 Souljades. With the placeholder being what you want till you can get rares.
Is the frostbite accumulation from sub zero better?
A variant of it because there's not enough time to activate Frostbite Chain.
Hmm
I wonder if it will compensate for the loss in Headshot Damage for Elemental Dmage
AHH truee
new gamemode that uses new anima cards 👀
In your build, you'd probably replace something else. But in the Springs Call it would be Guanyin
Cause you'll even generate more Thundershock from it.
In my raw damage build is the element modifier even worth it?
Because we don't have the insane coefficients as Void Destroyer
We'll have to see if it scales like it does on Bow after the change
Cause it'll be more Deadeye Rate at the least
Yeah, Spring's Call is much better than Thunder Surge until update hits
Because it can double dip into Raw Damage and Divine Thunder Damage
When the new multipliers hit live we can see how these play out
For now my Raw Damage, you can swap out Scarlet Guanyin for Elemental Shot for faster Deadeye, but it might account to a large loss in potential burst damage
Spring's Call and Thunder Charge will probably benefit hugely from the new multipliers in test server rn
Isn't Depths Blast better than Sub-zero Seal? During the elemental surge effect, your frostbite meter stops working, and because of that your jade stops working, or am I wrong?
Yeah, you can add up the Attack Bonuses & DMG Bonuses and see that Vigor is behind:
No Vigor
- Attack Bonus:
20% + 20% + 18% + 15% + 10%*2 + 4.5% = 97.5%
- DMG Bonus:
20% + 6% = 26%
With Vigor
- Attack Bonus:
20% + 20% + 20% + 18% + 10%*2 = 98%
- DMG Bonus:
20% + 2.4% = 22.4%
Dang
I'm using this Setup
I have both on lol
That build I used, I would only recommend for runs you complete in less than 24s.
I confused your frozen blast with the frostbite chain. Sorry... Oh, I see, thanks Dark Zero
Tundra Might I think would stop working during Element Surge
Yup, it stops working while Element Surge is going
What do get from the red flux jade
Anyone up from Doom?
Yeah but I think we solved our Musket as well
I used all my fatigue
Would run, in a trio atm though running Yama
So both Musket and Bow have viable builds. Musket waits for the potential and multiplier tweaks, but after we figure out that the builds are solid
Don't need fatigue for Doom
Infact it's better not to waste it
I always turn off fatigue for Doom lol
You running it for a while?
Probably, yeah
Darn
Bow is busted against Buried Giant
Maybe I'll try soloing with Deadeye
I'm level 100 anyway
With basic build and potentials setup
Trying to crack 14s
Don't even have to leave the spawn platform lol
The distance is pretty far though so you have to lead your shots.
Wait you don’t need fatigue for doom?
No
I use these in doom?
Wow that was silly
🪿
Nope, those are for enigma
That's Enigma Domain
You get soul jades in doom then
Yeah if you keep fatigue on
What do you get with it off
Nothing, aside the challenge completion rewards
Did you guys use fatigue on story missions?
when i 1st did them yes but afterwards only on missions that i needed certain jades from
We finished
If you still need it rq, bout to get a shower otherwise
Go shower bro, I managed to solo it
Lmao
He hit me with the back breaker combo 😔
Hi
Stopped trying to do nirriti ruins night scream and legend after I found out I only needed normal mode to lvl up
Can you freeze yourself with your own souljades?
Yes
I’m lvl 100 what now
How do you avoid it

You get a souljade that gives you immunity to your elemental drawbacks
What's it called
you can defuse before u get frozen or use ur skill
I don’t remember
I don’t use ice
I like thunder
Go to training
And you should be able to find it there
I know it’s a purple souljade that gives immunity
whats the best souljades to equip on matari? is it just the ones with the best rating or?
Jade that prevents freezing is Cinderfrost, but I wouldn't recommend relying on that. Sounds like nerfing yourself out of a lot of dmg
Would you guys recommend playing the game with a ' hybrid build ' like 3 souljades of freeze essence and then 3 of poison?
Unless you're a beginner and don't have Elemental Essence Gifts, then no
Don't mix different Elemental Wielding Jades except for very specific niche builds
Ice Fall, Sub-Zero Seal and Depth's Blast can all freeze you. If you don't want to be frozen, I strongly recommend the Ice Lotus Chain build in the pins.
Ice Lotus Chain in the pins.
Only for builds where Element DMG is not a priority. Such as Bow builds or some of the Musket builds.
CN using Thunderpull atk 20% + Scarlet Guanyin for current Yama
during skyrender shot stance immune to stagger
no tproof? interesting
Lmao
Ahh damn, I have a pure poison build and to spice things up I wanted to try this thing out but guess it would punish me hard in the nightscream mode 💔🥀
nirriti ruins doesn't use your build
not even tcounter
if you are talking about nighscream nirriti
Once the Deadeye bug is fixed though, unlikely to be viable.
yea
looks like an yama exclusive build
where you could stack up deadeye from previous run
MY ENTIRE LIFE WAS A LIE??
Also nah i included the morus isle as well
you use anima cards in nirriti ruins
Yup yup
showdown level and build doesn't matter there
Well about the build being irrelevant there is a new thing for me
That's a bug to be stagger immune?
Also is that our final yama's fight?
You select your Wielding at the start of Nirriti's Ruins. Puts you at +6 Wielding for that element. Outside of that you especially don't want to mix elements unless stated otherwise.
No, starting in Deadeye stance.
O.O HOW
...
Thunder buff when?
It maintains it when you do a Quick Restart.
I.
Eh.
Ew
Yeah fix pls.
XD am fine with deadeye being stagger immune if not abusable this way
But this is hilarious
Pls fix
Does the red jade flux give you a rare attribute?
It guarantees it. It's also the only way to get your 2nd Rare
it's not ''immune to stagger during deadeye''
it's immune to stagger during gold focus
Save Flux Jades and Flux Fragments ONLY for second rare rolls
which skyrender shot provide
Use normal jades to reroll until you get your first desired rare
Everyone was ignoring me on it
I got my first rare from randomly rerolling
Yep do that for all your jades in your build
It was a skill cool down
Then start using Flux for rolling your second rare
Moderation
Sometimes it may not be ideal for the build, you can just reroll until you get the Rare you desire

Yep sounds about right
Feria skill is pretty strong
I like it
I’ll leave it alone
Bc some jades tell me to use moderation
It’s my first rare tho 
Oh shit
Strongest in the game atm, only beat by Valda's if enemies walk into the bombs or Yoto Hime's if you get most of the spin and teleport attack off.
This changes everything
eh no it doesn't
Hmm
For ILC, is there optional preference for which souldjades the Moderation should be on? I am building it from scratch, and got moderation as first rare on literally all of them...
Could replace Shattered Edge and push the build harder
yeah by 2% more bonus attack for like 0.5% total dmg increase? lol
Build gonna be an extreme skill check atp
Windfall will definitely help my build
I'm pretty sure someone can pilot it
I have yet to max upgrade my stuff but I want my jade perks before I upgrade
get 100% mod then forget about it
Successive Ice Blast, Frozen Blast, & Element Surge are safe bets.
Likely to be staples of Ice builds for a while.
perfect 2 rares per jade is hard to get so you usually don't choose which jade mod/wf are on
About to test if it's Deadeye or Skyrender Shot
make you immune to DT stagger
Honestly, of the Musket builds, I'm enjoying Thunder Surge the most. Very noob/controller friendly, since even body shots can keep it going
If what they said about being able to dodge after a Parry is true as well, you'll have some mobility
but prolly you couldn't ditch guanyin on any musket build
so you always wants headshot
Yeah it's the Skyrender Shot, not Deadeye
So extreme skill check build
Why lotus over the other? I ask as I defuse the frost drop, or in the middle of the dreadful wail it drops randomly and still doesn't freeze me
because dreadful wail provides gold focus and during gold focus you're immune to freeze
I also have no video watching on her and DW spam
Sometimes the AE slashes, based on situations
Matari takes about 3s to activate Ice Blast, for a total of 7s per Ice Blast. So that limits her to 3 Ice Thorns per Frost Surge. Maybe it'll be better when Curios come back and we get Elemental Accumulation Rate
Where lotus cares 0
yea ILC is risk free
you never freeze yourself
you don't lose hp
you got good aoe damages
HowDO you use matari
Skill, Aegis-Break x8
I pretend guard doesn't exist and defuse everything, and DW/AE slash as needed
But mostly DW
AE more dps single target?
Only use DW when your Skill is on cooldown and your Flash buff is gone.

AE super applies element? That sounds like good news for the toxic surge build too
Usually happens on Poison builds or if you don't manage to land 3 Aegis-Breaks in time on Ice builds.
AE for her, we count each pait of slashes as 1, or every slash as an individual?
Skyrender is the buffed shot you get after a headshot during Deadeye right?
Sorta. Her Skill buffs her Aegis-Break's base multiplier by 4.5x. Combined with Aegis-Break Rage, it makes it one of the highest DPS attacks in the game.
Regardless of if you're airborne or not
What's the caveat?
Hi
The buff lasts 6s. Too short for Poison and reliant on Moderation.
I have been using her so wrong.......
Time to hyper carry my wife harder I guess ROFL
For reference:
Dreadful Wail
- Damage (at Lv. 100 in Free Training): 5,369
- Duration: 2.95s
- DPS: 1,820
Dancing Leaves
-# (buffed by Flash & Aegis-Break Rage)
- Damage (at Lv. 100 in Free Training): 8,553
- Duration: 1.48s
- DPS: 5,766
DL is the AE right?
Yes
I have been.
So.
So.
Bad
Why do we DW off the skill buff timer in that case?
(Is that supposed to be the down?)
Now I am questioning my usage of justina gu.....
Oh whoops hold on I didn't update my formula to the changes after 80
Skull spam.
Hold vertical charge, tap for ae, when skill is up hit, use skill to get out of self freeze, close to down, hit ult(both charges if applicable)
I.
Oh
(I use the HZ heal follow up as needed when I sloppily miss defuse)
Also do we hold Matari skill or just tap?
For reference:
Dreadful Wail
- Damage: 5,674
-# (at Lv. 100 in Free Training) - Duration: 2.95s
- DPS: 1,923
Dancing Leaves
-# (buffed by Flash & Aegis-Break Rage)
- Damage: 9,040
-# (at Lv. 100 in Free Training) - Duration: 1.48s
- DPS: 6,094
Dancing Leaves
-# (buffed by Aegis-Break Rage only)
Damage: 1,987
-# (at Lv. 100 in Free Training)
Duration: 1.48s
DPS: 1,340
Hold if they're far away, tap if they're up close.
Skull spam?
- use horizontal charge not vertical, it does more damages
- can ignore aegis break completely
- with 100% mod use your F as soon as ice blast comes off cd
- when ice chain is ready use uncharge melee attack to proc it
Skill*
Doesn't vertical have better element applications?
yea with 100% mod just horz and F spam
don't use your F when ice blast is still on cd though
also learn how to stop her dash midway
Oh, I use this rotation for Justina:
Skill, Vertical, 1st Horizontal Charge, Aegis-Break
I haven't done any frame counting for Justina, so I don't know the exact DPS, but they fit quite well in Ice Blast cooldown.
How do i?
Element Accumulation is usually based on an attack's base multiplier. Horizontal Charge has the higher base multiplier of the 2.
you take off ice chain for szs?
Tap vertical during the dash
For that stage, yeah
Doesn't last long enough for Chain to activate
I used ice fall till I got chains on gu
why
That can work, although Sub-Zero Seal would be a better placeholder.
I dodge to gauranteed the self freeze
wdym
Skill
Dodge
Self frozen
I faill to see where this is not understood?
but why do you want the self freeze lol
you only want it on this specific yama stage
Final result of rares received:
Moderation: 10
Scorching: 8
Windfall: 1

The freeze resets her skill
2 dodges and a skill will freeze you
got 100% mod your skill reset when you trigger ice blast anyway?
Had a lot of materials?
and you only want to self freeze so you get 1 more F in exchange of the boss might hit you during the freeze and waiting for ice blast to come off cd
3k fragments yea
outside of this specific yama stage why do you want to freeze yourself?
I was level 70 at the time and couldn't get chains
Pain.
They don't have chain yet
then use szs
+20% attack boost
Still running WW?
After this nitirri a 3rd would be great
Can anyone tell me, does scorching work for ice builds, it recommends windfall so im not sure?
useless
It's back to its pretty much useless state again
HOLY FUCK
I assume u at least had normal attributes maxed out from those scorchings u got.
That I did atleast 😄

Wanna join?
Yeah what server
NA
:c
Qued up now
Okay, just made a quick hotdog
After I get wife her clear, we can bring you up to it
yeah it would literally be like a two minute run, I just need someone to eat like four attacks in phase two
then I'm up for w/e if you still need a third, altho it sounds like you've got one
I am pub queuing waiting for him to join it XD so far he busy I think
hotdog
sent ty
We gonna help quad
Thanks for the offer tho!
Alrighty, was getting the grease before it dried
Dried grease annoying








