👾┃showdown

[hidden creek]

also

aslo

[fierce light]

You'd have to do 80x multiplier worth of damage

[hidden creek]

thunder charge doesn't increase divine thunder dmg at all

which means

each counter u can only deal 1x instance of divine thunder dmg

while without it

1 counter when thunder bar full = 4 instances of divine thunder

which scales with divine thunder dmg stat on our sj

[fierce light]

Yeah

I think you'd want some Dmg to Bosses on Thunder Surge

[hidden creek]

i think i'll shit on thunder surge

[fierce light]

Counterstrikes make up a good portion of the damage

[hidden creek]

🤮

i'd rather get those 4x parries

with 4x divine thunders

and a much more free gameplay

[fierce light]

~22-24x Multiplier for Counterstrikes with Thunder Smash

[hidden creek]

if i want to go thunder

[fierce light]

But yeah it is sounding like a downgrade overall

Think it was mainly intended for Musket that can safely do it from a distance.

[hidden creek]

yeah

melee thunder is cooked

[fierce light]

Well and Tianhai, who's ultimate was changed for it perfectly

[hidden creek]

hey maybe my build isn't trolling

not taking thunder root

make the spinning lotuses stacks thunderbar super quick

but it lacks dmg boost tho

i wonder if thunder smash dmg is that good

to make up for it

[fierce light]

Yeah Lotus Impacts with Thunderous Lotus and without Thunder Root generate a crap ton of charge

[hidden creek]

yeah

so we get divine thunder often

[fierce light]

Was fun the brief period I tried Thunder Lotus Scorch

[hidden creek]

thus getting thunder smash often

thus dealing more divine thunder dmg and counterattack dmg

[fierce light]

Lotus Counter seems overkill though

[hidden creek]

yeah i realize

but

i'm also trying to make a well rounded rotation

so

hmm

[fierce light]

Well idk how fast it charges with 6 Thunder Wielding

[hidden creek]

the kurumi clip i posted is with 6 thunder wielding

2x 2nd stage charge attacks

= full thunder bar

[fierce light]

That was the build?

Seemed like it was spinning slow

[hidden creek]

that one was with thunderproof instead of lotus counter i think

[wind light]

its all about reading skill ❤️‍🔥

[fierce light]

Oh okay. Crazy even with all that, it takes more effort to charge than Poison

[hidden creek]

somehow

with kurumi

the thunder chain doesn't stack my thunder bar

but on feria it does

🤔

[fierce light]

It has an internal cooldown

If that's what's happening

[hidden creek]

huh

so prolly bcoz nunnie counter attack is slower than katana

and that delay gives it just enough time for the cd to be over

[fierce light]

I think it hit right before the cooldown ended on this one

[hidden creek]

yeah

[fierce light]

Don't think it's as long as 6s

[hidden creek]

yeah bcoz feria counterattack is slower so the cd was over

so the thunder chain attack is counted for the dmg that stacks thunder bar

[fierce light]

Oh that's a pretty good amount of charge

[hidden creek]

also
isn't it on real cases when our divine thunder dmg stats is high, the bar will charge much quicker?

bcoz tpull effect is ''dealing dmg build ur thunderbar''

[quaint girder]

Looks like Thunder Surge is made for two heroes only with your findings:

• Tianhai Perma Stun Infinite Ulti. It's because every time he Counter Attacks he adds 3 seconds to his Ulti. With Thunder Charge, he basically gets to counter and smack the boss and Perma stagger them.
• Deadeye Musket: We talked about this before

[hidden creek]

so higher the dmg, faster the bar gets filled no?

[quaint girder]

Chain is probably only viable on Infinite Ulti Tianhai then

[hidden creek]

bad news: thunder surge might be worse on musket compare to classic thunder pull spring call

🤣

[fierce light]

No, it's based on the base multiplier of attacks. Reason why Aegis-Breaks charge it slowly despite doing more than Charged Attacks oftentimes.

[quaint girder]

Eyy lmaooo

[hidden creek]

oh ok

[quaint girder]

Spring's Call is the one where you reduce Frostbite externally and then get a massive buff right?

[hidden creek]

yeah

• tpull: 20%
• spring call: 55%
• subzero: 20%
  for a total of 95% attack increase

[quaint girder]

Need TCounter on that right?

TPull, TCounter, Subzero, Spring,

Hmm

I'm thinking either Backfire + Desperation which gives 20% ATK and 20% DMG up

[tribal venture]

new ice build doesnt need scorch right?
also can we only get 1 rare substat from rolling? and the 2nd needed to be imbued?

[quaint girder]

Or actually Elemental Surge Thunder and Thunder Charge

Because Surge will give Afterglow+Fury with 24% ATK

And Thundersmash multiplier is 8.5x about

Issue is you'd be sacking DT damage

[fierce light]

#👾┃showdown message

Scorching isn't needed for any meta builds at the moment.

[quaint girder]

But at this point, Tabbie's Spring Call is better to compare to my all in Poison build

Since Spring's Call TPull was there to enable scorching. In this case, it's to permanently increase attack by 55% by forcing TPull procs with Thunder Charge

Ah

Shit

That won't work

You'd need Ice Break to reduce Frostbite

[quaint girder]

Yeah you'd need Ice Break and TCounter so you're already at 5 slots which is not good

Since two slots are non damage slots.

[steep nexus]

did you update the build for the site guide sir

[fierce light]

Poison build?

[hidden creek]

the total attack increase is still higher than backfire build

[quaint girder]

Technically just backfire Desperation

[quaint girder]

The issue is uptime, Spring's Call doesn't have an 100% uptime

So you'd get massive spikes in burst, but it may not be consistent

[fierce light]

10s is decently long

[hidden creek]

it does

[fierce light]

It's active during the crucial parts at least

[quaint girder]

Hmm

[hidden creek]

by not using thunder wielding

during deadeye

after you parry (got spring call buff)

you only need 3 headshots/weakpoint shots

to fill the thunderbar again

[fierce light]

Interesting

[quaint girder]

My build has 20% 20% 20% 18% ATK boost so 78%

It also has a 20% damage modifier plus headshot modifier increase by like 40%

[fierce light]

Running it with Ice-Wielding would decrease the speed of Sub-Zero Seal

[quaint girder]

So poison?

Lmao

[fierce light]

No, you'd want to slow it

[fierce light]

What's your Poison build again

[quaint girder]

Tabbie, this is my big booster. Desperation's DMG up and Scarlet Guanyin's headshot multiplier are probably multiplicative

[quaint girder]

Dark's TSurge Build relies on both the Thunder Smash CA AND the DT damage especially with DT DMG substats it can take advantage of

[quaint girder]

Not truly poison. Surge is required to be poison to get the free 20 attack

[hidden creek]

i can even give up on tproof for another 35% attack boost, or that guanyin jade

but i can only shoot 1 CA each dthunder counter

[quaint girder]

Can it outdo or at least be competitive with Desperation in my build or the raw DT damage from Zero's build

Cause that would be an amazing avenue to have 3 viable Musket builds close to each other but with nuanced play styles

[hidden creek]

who knows, it could

[quaint girder]

Should test.

Kind of hard to test in training

[fierce light]

I gotcha.

[quaint girder]

Since Dark's TSurge Build needs the DT DMG substats on all the jades at 30%

[fierce light]

I think I'll have to frame count the duration of the single parries

[quaint girder]

To amp up that Thunder Charge bolt that comes after every TSmash Slow Skyrender Shot CA

[quaint girder]

For what reason?

[fierce light]

I have the duration of regular Thunder Counter

[cursive fable]

we need HUWEI in showdown

tiger lore would be dope

[fierce light]

I could find out the interval of Counterstrikes

[quaint girder]

Akos Hu would be dope

[fierce light]

Musket's attacks might be harder to account for since there's aiming you'd do in battle

[fierce light]

They teased him some time ago

Maybe he'll be next

[steep nexus]

@fierce light what is best tip for high luck build for farming for newbies tandem with blessing souljade and lucky break for upcoming

[hidden creek]

bruh i hate this ''moving forward after each shot'' on musket so much

[quaint girder]

It's pretty fucking hard to aim, between Slow Shot, ghost bullets, and being a singular shot as opposed to multishot or AoE

[quaint girder]

https://tenor.com/view/exactly-kylo-ren-exactly-kylo-ren-kylo-ren-gif-13523291

[hidden creek]

he gets added onto showdown on mobile alr

they got akos we got justina

[quaint girder]

tabbie

The devs showed the alpha preview

Kylin was on the roster for PC after Justina

[hidden creek]

fuck he gonna do, shaved them hair?

[quaint girder]

They may pull a red herring like they did with Akos/Tessa where Wuchen came out first

Then Yoto was the surprise before Tessa

This time they actually might add Akos

[hidden creek]

bro

fuck this musket

won't be me who play it

[balmy coral]

Choke korvin

[hidden creek]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-nene-toodles-gif-12842234769758299567

[quaint girder]

ghost shots, sliding forward or both?

[hidden creek]

all of them

[quaint girder]

Lmaooo

[hidden creek]

also it's hard af to aim

[quaint girder]

It really is

The burst can potentially be stronger than Void Destroyer

Especially I tested with my raw damage build

[hidden creek]

the bullet hitbox is so tiny

compare to bow

[quaint girder]

45k per shot on headshot if you don't get ghost shotted you can fit 4-5 in there for like up to 225k bursts

During Aegis Break

[hidden creek]

nah man fuck this shit

https://tenor.com/view/im-out-we-out-peace-out-disappear-gif-15464202

[quaint girder]

It's technically hitscan so it's precise, but with the ghost shot bugs it's worse than Bow in terms of accuracy

MKB have it better than controller, but Musket still doesn't feel good

[fierce light]

I wouldn't recommend newbies make one. At best I'd say wait till Tempered Inferno opens back up and get the luck bonus from there alongside on your Yin Curio.

[fierce light]

I kinda dislike how Bow sends you back as it makes it hard to pop an Ultimate really quick and back off. But I can imagine moving forward being more tedious.

[hidden creek]

but you can move when charging bow

[quaint girder]

When I said when you do Musket you literally become an immobile turret

[plain spire]

The musket not hitting the enemy even though the crosshair is dead center is a bug?

[quaint girder]

I meant it

[hidden creek]

also this is why bow build justina is gud

[fierce light]

I can barely aim Bow, not going to bother with Musket personally either

[quaint girder]

I agree I'm a controller player as well

[hidden creek]

at this point i don't care how much dmg musket does

it feels tedious to play

[quaint girder]

We'll craft the builds and depend on mouse and keyboard pilots who want to try that sniper gameplay

[fierce light]

Saving Musket purely for Nirriti's

[quaint girder]

Probably some Valorant's players wet dream

[quaint girder]

I might try enigma with it

[hidden creek]

ngl when they teased deadeye system i was expected something like rapid shooting with lots of movement

[quaint girder]

It's one of the few places I can pick a perch and become the American Sniper™

[hidden creek]

like diablo kinda shit

[fierce light]

I do wanna try an Enigma run with Bow

[hidden creek]

but this, wtf

[fierce light]

Probably after I pass 80 though

[hidden creek]

bow does looks op

flamebane did an enigma run

with bow jades that got literally 0 stats on them

[steep nexus]

thank you for this. what is the meta build suggestion if i used to ice lotus build before what souljade

[hidden creek]

it's also a solo run

im excited for a trio with someone else holding the boss for me and with a maxed stats bow build

inb4 everyone fighting for that ranged slot cuz bow is broken

[fierce light]

I'd say make an Ice Lotus Chain build: #👾┃showdown message
Cheap to set up from a pre-existing Ice build, easy to use and extremely competitive.

[hidden creek]

lmao

[fierce light]

As long as they don't take Justina, I'm fine being the tank.

[hidden creek]

🤣 hey let me use my justina bow build

[fierce light]

Tessa feels kinda made for it tbh

Skill buffs her damage, but also provides protection from a single hit.

Ultimate you can pop on a down and run away and it'll pop when they get up

If her Curio works with Bow, it's going to be insane

[hidden creek]

suck that they make weapon locked on character on showdown

[fierce light]

I swapped out Renewed Vigor on my Bow build btw. Traded the Green Node for the Blue one, +6% DMG to Bosses & +4.5% Attack.

Helps prevent any issues losing Deadeye from invulnerability phases or Ultimates

[hidden creek]

yeah i posted that potential plan ytd

i'm also using that

this one

[fierce light]

Yup

[hidden creek]

there's still spare points tho 😂 it irk me so bad

such a shame when the bow build i cooked got 0 spare points but its dmg is not that good

[fierce light]

Are you lvl 78?

I'm putting the remainder in the Rage/DMG

[hidden creek]

i mean not like you got other choices anyway....

also

to be fair

we can still totally take that green tree heal during deadeye

not losing that much damages

and you could heal by just not attacking

[bitter laurel]

Thanks for the guides so far
I saw the deadeye rate for musket u guys posted, is there one for bow??

[fierce light]

It's not really that,mainly cause I was losing Deadeye in certain situations.

[bitter laurel]

Or does it work out to be the same??

[fierce light]

That's the big damage loss, even though I have enough dead eye rate to enter it in 3 shots.

[hidden creek]

yeah i was thinking that from the start when u guys says it's easy to stay in deadeye mode

[fierce light]

10-15% seems to be just right. 20% will be really comfortable.

[hidden creek]

like ''when you couldn't attack then every second extending for that deadeye mode is worth it''

[bitter laurel]

Will work towards that
Thanks darkzero

[fierce light]

Yeah those periods where boss went immune/doing a large AoE it came in clutch.

[hidden creek]

with a zero deadeye bar you need 4x 2nd stage charged shots to enter deadeye mode w/o any deadeye build rate?

[bitter laurel]

Does counterattack with bow reduce that number?? I was surprised when u guys said it only took 6 counter headshots to hit deadeye with musket

[hidden creek]

nah bow counterattack sucks

[bitter laurel]

Ah, ok
So just focus on 2nd charge

[steep nexus]

what is the potential for ice lotus and frostbite

[fierce light]

Yes, it's just short. I estimate 2nd stage to give you ~30% per shot.

+6.7% doesn't bring it down to 3 shots either

I'll have to test 10%

[fierce light]

Mostly the Blue path. Both grab Frost Douse & Ice Shatter, but ILC wants Ice Root.

After that you can go after the Rage/DMG stats.

[hidden creek]

weird because i just need 3 shots...

[fierce light]

That confirms headshots give more then even for Bow

Hmm 8.4% Deadeye Rate brought it down to 3 body shots

[hidden creek]

oh you mean body shots

but i mean does it matters tho? like you hit 3x 2nd charged shots then just 1 non-charged shot and u got deadeye already

i think deadeye build rate is just not needed

[shut ether]

when does show down fatigue reset?

[hidden creek]

you can always check in game

[fierce light]

It saves you an extra arrow. Probably minor, but you're not regening arrows while out of Deadeye.

[hidden creek]

🤔 fair

[fierce light]

Good to know that you only really need 10% Deadeye at the most

[shut ether]

cheers, wasnt aware there was a timer in showdown quests. Good to know

[sleek bronze]

What is the fastest way to level up showdown level? Nerriti?

[fierce light]

Just one attribute slot

[sleek bronze]

Need to get back to naraka from elden ring lmao

[hidden creek]

quicker fatigue spend = faster level up

nirriti is just the most well-rounded stage to run

leveling showdown level and farming at the same time

[sleek bronze]

oke thank uou tabbie

[shut ether]

can you power up the soul jade levels?

[fierce light]

No need to, it does it automatically for your account

[fervent oxide]

Looking for carry (SEA)
I'm currently Level.40.

Thank you!
Please no troll, if you are new stop asking for my ID. My profile picture is from squid game, not me.

[lone umbra]

avg lvl has to match the recommended lvl... not sure if it is gonna match

[fervent oxide]

The first stage need Lvl.30 right? It's possible for me right?

[lone umbra]

that we can

if you another player >70 lvl we can do all

[fervent oxide]

Yes one player is Level 71, Let's go? It's Bunny

[lone umbra]

yeah we can

[fervent oxide]

Okay

[lone umbra]

who tf thought of designing Huanyue ?

[fervent oxide]

What is that mean..

Altair me finish

[lone umbra]

new boss

fkn annoying

so much wider AOE attacks and very less window to dodge those

[fervent oxide]

Need Feria Shen Build

I only have one for my Justina, help how to get this?

[tribal venture]

you guys still doing doom runs?

can i join?

[lone umbra]

manticore nightscream

[fervent oxide]

okay bro

[fervent oxide]

me full already

[cursive fable]

hi shayol

v1 for tiger hero is a meme in solo/duos?

should i always take v2

[crimson cave]

imagine referring to yuri as "from squid game" im so dead 😭😭

[fervent oxide]

LMAOOO

[crimson cave]

my girl deserves better fr 💀💀💀

[fervent oxide]

Yin-Yang Mastery how to get this? And the logo / effect

[summer ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-gif-4656385985544318455

[fervent oxide]

HELP -1

Help

[timid stirrup]

yin-yang synergy is from having an awakened yin curio n yang curio equipped.

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Flip leveled up!

[fervent oxide]

Wow thank you for your information, it will available in august yeah

okay thanks yeah

now carry me nigthscream viper mom please

[timid stirrup]

it grants the user 2k luck and the rest of the party 1k luck

[crimson cave]

i needt help with cultivation ns

😭

[rotund forge]

niritti night mode anyon

[tawdry idol]

Guys

How do I use that

Deadeye thing

After the bar is filled, is there any like specific button to unleash the attack

[amber terrace]

u can read in Upgrade Hero

[strong kiln]

Wait... we can purchase flux jade in here now?

[subtle bramble]

been there for a while now but it takes a long time and a lot of bad luck with drops for it to unlock

[strong kiln]

understandable

[timid stirrup]

its also a 1 time purchase

[pearl karma]

what is the fastest way to burn fatigue / increase showdown level right now? i am still at @1k fatigue level 51 rn

[river stratus]

nirriti + ticket exp

[hybrid canyon]

Can't wait tempered inferno so tired of niritti

[tacit quail]

Anyone able to help me get some lvls in showdown have no idea what I'm doing try nightmare niritti and kinda difficult solo

[pearl karma]

Ticket exp as in the exlir one? It is so rxpensiveee

[tranquil beacon]

No, the one that increases your showdown exp by 50%

[fierce light]

You probably have to grind on Hard a bit longer to level up your Fire Forge. Also prioritize filling your collection as it'll give different bonuses.

[north lynx]

And filling your anima ring collection will transfer to the next season.

[fierce light]

Finding Where Souljades Drop

1. In the Showdown Lobby, go to the Preparation tab.

• Enter Equip Souljades.
• Go down to Souljade Conversion.
• To the right of the Convert button, there is a symbol; click on that.

There will be tabs you can go through that show what stage unlocks/drops each Souljade.

[proud sandal]

anyone doing second doom stars?

[fierce light]

I can help

[proud sandal]

it would be great

how can i get you invite?

[fair shuttle]

anyone doom? eu

[fierce light]

Sorry, I'm DarKZer0 in-game.
Do note, the 0 is a zero.

[fierce light]

Can get you in too

[fair shuttle]

i m playing in eu server

[fierce light]

Yeah

[proud sandal]

it doesnt find

[fierce light]

What's yours?

[proud sandal]

6028700100166

[fierce light]

Oh that's why

Have to search DarKZer0[NA]

[fair shuttle]

is that u?

[proud sandal]

oh i forget that NA tag

[fair shuttle]

what char do u guys play

[fierce light]

Yes

[fierce light]

I didn't know they included it in the search, but I guess that makes sense in case of duplicates.

[fair shuttle]

i didnt even know u could play w someone from another server

[signal kite]

What kind of black magic is this

[fair shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/arnav-ipkknd-tantrik-black-magic-arnav-singh-raizada-gif-19445315

[shrewd basin]

Dark I knew you were a witch

[fierce light]

Bruh, why does my cursor keep disappearing.

[shrewd basin]

In game one or mouse?

Cuz I’ve had the bug before on console a couple season back

[fierce light]

In-game on console

[shrewd basin]

I thing a reset usually fixes it

[timid stirrup]

is enigma 3 boss worth doing to got the potential bonus or should i just wait til i max fatigue n then do enigma?

[hidden creek]

i mean you can just turn off fatigue consumption and enter then exit

[timid stirrup]

thats a damn good point

[lone umbra]

i did that maxing fatigue

ez pz

[rotund forge]

anyone nirrti ns grind

[timid stirrup]

what rares should my friend shoot for on Tianhai T.Surge?

[hidden creek]

windfall all the way to pump that divine thunder dmg

[timid stirrup]

hes thinking some form of mod/wf but i always associated thunder with scorching but reading that burn got nerfed im not so sure im right

would he not benefit from mod in ult form?

[hidden creek]

even in ult form he'll be doing parry and parry counterattack continuously

[timid stirrup]

i dont really play tianhai much in showdown only a few times but back when we didnt ult

[hidden creek]

but tbh

it's really not worth it

going for tsurge

unless ur friend want to play nothing but tianhai

which is a... questionable decision

[tribal venture]

[timid stirrup]

ur thinking ilc for variety

[hidden creek]

yeah

one build fits all

[timid stirrup]

thats what i was thinking

he has an ilm build from last season but hes liking thunder now n i wanna steer him in the right direction

[hidden creek]

can tell him to go training and try tsurge gameplay

[timid stirrup]

maybe i'll have him make both n not use fluxes on t.surge

[hidden creek]

psure it'll make him stay away from it lmfao

[timid stirrup]

lol

[wise topaz]

Hi, what's the best way to lvl up showdown level atm?

[rotund forge]

nirti

[wise topaz]

thanks

[rotund forge]

use the xp bonus ticket

50%

[fierce light]

Tianhai's Ultimate doesn't need Moderation. The Skill is already on a 4s cooldown which is faster than the 6s cooldown for Divine Thunder. Plus the Skill alone won't be enough to activate Divine Thunder (the elemental burst).

[quaint girder]

That Varja F is insane

boss stagger on a 4S CD.

With Thunder Charge, you're basically doing CA > DT Counter > CA >DT Counter endlessly to stagger boss and maintain unlimited ulti

No need for mod, just pump up Divine DMG and Attack Substats and go full Windfall.

hardest part is just getting Tianhai into ulti.

[north lynx]

Tianhai valda justina comps

[timid stirrup]

nice i'll give him that info

thanx

[fierce light]

Why Valda?

[timid stirrup]

my guess is F skill but i wouldve thought Tessa is just as good if not better

[fierce light]

Not that's she's bad now, just wondering what he's cooking

[fierce light]

This the potential you want to go with your Bow build?

[hidden creek]

no lol

backfire build

[fierce light]

Also @quaint girder & tabbie lmk if yall come up with names for yall builds.

[hidden creek]

surge build need diff potential

[fierce light]

I figured

[fierce light]

Updating the site rn

[hidden creek]

just call it ice bow lol

😂

[quaint girder]

Direct Headshot Musket

not at home so can't pull potential

But it's flexible, need Green, but can flex into either Red or Blue depending onf preference.

Subattributes:

6x Attack
6x Ranged Damage
6x Damage to Boss
6x Flex [Deadeye Build Rate/Windfall]

Did you need me to post DT Thundersmash Musket or do you already have that one @fierce light?

I'll have to test Tabbie's Spring's call musket against mine. Since both builds don't rely on element I'll just have to see how burst phases work during armor break.

For Thundersmash Musket, cannot test in training. We'd need to manually test/calculate the increased damage from DT DMG+ from substats to see if it can outdo Spring's Call and Backfire musket with substats

which is a lot more complicated.

I'm in the office today so won't be able to test for another 5 hours or so

the main thing to test is how much Desperation will increase burst since that's multiplicative.

[hidden creek]

also i think it's worth to note that on my ice bow build, SZS is just there for the 20% dmg boost and you can replace it with craftmanship (for utility) or shattered edge (2% less attack increase but you won't freeze yourself) etc...
you don't need SZS ice bar increase effect because with ice element surge and +1 ice wielding, one void destroyer is enough to fill the ice bar already
also this is the same for every bow builds that you don't need frost arrows specifically, it can be toxic arrows/thunder arrows

[quaint girder]

Literally the state of ranged in Naraka RN:

[amber terrace]

[fierce light]

I have it

[fierce light]

Yeah, still a pretty good jade

[hidden creek]

bro

i just find out

equipping enrage make ur rage bar increase so fast to the point u'll get perma ult

[fierce light]

Lol

[hidden creek]

thanks to the absurd dmg of void destroyer, scattered shot enhance and element arrows

actually nvm

even w/o enrage ur rage still increase so quick

holyshit

[amber terrace]

[fair shuttle]

ppl were saying 70s max

how to reach there

[timid stirrup]

did u atart at 15 and were u using boosters from the beginning?

[fair shuttle]

at 15 or something yea

what boosters?

[timid stirrup]

xp boosters

[fair shuttle]

...

no

didnt use them

[timid stirrup]

theres ur answewr

[fair shuttle]

ty

[timid stirrup]

i started at 15 and im 1741/2400 and im at 68

[fair shuttle]

for letting me know that i am an idiot

[timid stirrup]

they were formerly called potential bonus

[balmy coral]

nirriti

I'm at maxed fatigue level 74 and the highest I saw was 76

Dunno if others got higher than this

[fair shuttle]

i remember 79

[balmy coral]

maybe could

I had so many unfinished topaz runs so I could not maximize my exp gain

[hidden creek]

next week we all get to 100 anyway

[timid stirrup]

i see 95 so far as listed recommended. not sure max will b 100

wait nvm. recommended does not mean max

[hidden creek]

ns inferno recommended level goes all the way to 100

so i'm assuming 100 is the max

[timid stirrup]

damn i didnt look at inferno

[neat cave]

oof 2 months till its opening

[hidden creek]

curio is for ppl who started late catching up and for ppl who wants to compete for leaderboard top spots

[river stratus]

also last boss on topaz is lev 100

[north lynx]

I think that old thunder build with musket thing is a bit over tuned, and she's the best musket char.

[balmy coral]

The reason why I can't beat it solo

[north lynx]

I can

U can too

[balmy coral]

Just 20 levels down and I'm getting 1 hit

[north lynx]

I have faith

[balmy coral]

[fair shuttle]

if health bar moves, it can be killed

[balmy coral]

Ye Justina Surge is broken for a reason

[river stratus]

well recasting thunder jades for ranged i think is not bad idea, can be usefull for some other builds in future

just need to swap maxed stat on others

[north lynx]

I think I only have 1 scorching 5 windfalls on my core thunder stuff

So it's not too bad of a transition

Turn health into dmge to boss or ranged wep damage

Whichever is better

[river stratus]

yea

[north lynx]

I'll have to like remake ice break and spring call since I long got rid of those but

Really an ok headstart

My 3 other scorchings were on the lotus stuff thankfully

And copper ward

[quaint girder]

Is it because her current rework with the Aegis Break mechanics and Water Marks OR did she have something that Feria didn't?

[north lynx]

A bit of both, but mainly because her F is long range in comparison

So you don't have to position weird next to the boss to f

[quaint girder]

Ah, yeah Feria's you have to be in melee range.

[north lynx]

Can be very far away

[quaint girder]

Wait.

[north lynx]

And it full builds thunder accum

[quaint girder]

What if Feria Pestilent Pool + Toxic Surge is actually best for her Musket build BECAUSE she needs to be near the boss to F

Proc her own Toxified and get Fury/Afterglow

that would actually be silly

[north lynx]

Maybe but you'd have to test the damage numbers to see if it even out dps's the old thunder build. And realistically her ult is worse, so vs boss ult situations valda will do more

[cursive fable]

does viper v2 not silence when its channeling?

[north lynx]

Not in showdown

[cursive fable]

oh in pvp

[river stratus]

mmmh this will be viable for mobs?

[cursive fable]

the toolkit seems confusing

[quaint girder]

agreed, Feria Ulti is a bad DPS loss, you use it to save yourself and heal on progs or botched runs.

[north lynx]

The initial charge has a windup time that doesn't instantly apply the silence

[quaint girder]

Potentially for Tempered Inferno if they don't rework how everyone stands in the pool and AoEs

[north lynx]

You can easily ult in that time period or skill

But after the windup it silence during and sometime after the ult

[quaint girder]

Would be a meme to jungle, you're better off with an actual melee. HOWEVER, Jungle Poison Musket Jungler Feria can AoE clear, but its so galaxy brained and unintuitive I'd rather eat staples then actually try it.

[cursive fable]

so many lannies in solo q

[north lynx]

There's a solo q !?@

[cursive fable]

oh ranked solo

[north lynx]

I'm getting skipped!

[cursive fable]

i meant XD

[hidden creek]

lol just give up on poison musket

[north lynx]

Ik

But I've been in solo que for an hour and a half

I'm getting skipped!

[hidden creek]

it's not worth it no matter how you look at it

[north lynx]

Is scattershot backfire still the best bow build? Or does old thunder out dps

[quaint girder]

NEVER

[hidden creek]

bow CA is shit so

[balmy coral]

soloQ

[quaint girder]

IF IT CAN BE VIABLE IT WILL BE A GLORIOUS MEME

[quaint girder]

Scattershot Backfire is still best

[north lynx]

Are you 100%

Numbers tested

[quaint girder]

you can swap out Renewed and tech in Craftsmanship

[north lynx]

Uh no

[quaint girder]

Let me see what Zer0 posted before.

[north lynx]

Less damage = bad

[cursive fable]

anyone know how much healing reduction on viper f2 is?

ingame toolkit doesnt show:c

[hidden creek]

the thing is on musket you want the parry and the CA, but on bow you don't want them

cuz you want to get void destroyers asap

[north lynx]

Craftsmanship is a bridge item when you don't have bis jades

[quaint girder]

@north lynx

If you want to all in DPS

put in Renewed Vigor over Craftsmanship and make sure you take Frost Arrows over Toxic Arrows

[north lynx]

Why

[quaint girder]

Frost has a slightly higher coefficient

[north lynx]

Toxic has better potential accum

[quaint girder]

than the other two elements

[north lynx]

You do more dps because you proc poisen much more

There is no potential for ice accum anymore

And you are most likely going up that tree anyway

[quaint girder]

So the raw damage is higher, and backfire builds don't really use elemental damage. The damage comes out similarly, Ice being very slightly better than the other two.

[cursive fable]

they been giving out alot of fatigue elixir potion lol

[quaint girder]

Personally, I like Toxin since I can just do 6+ poison wielding.

[north lynx]

That's just untrue when you factor in the poisen potential accum

[cursive fable]

when to use them? the 2x fatigue burn pot

[quaint girder]

Since Elemental Surge MUST be poison anyway to get that 20% attack boost

[north lynx]

It's objectively better

Hydros bound procs on every bow shot on scattershot

Ice doing more damage per ele burst is irrelevant when poisen procs 3to4 x more

[cursive fable]

btw, do you guys have your parry key on "G(system default keybind)

i feel like G is that good

[north lynx]

Side mouse button for me

You'd have to go all the way to frost douse to get the same value

That is wayy too deep into ice

And you need deadeye aim

And deadeye healing

[cursive fable]

@north lynx macro key on the mouse?

[north lynx]

Just the naraka option for side button

[quaint girder]

Then the build will be:

• Backfire
• Desperation
• Elemental Surge (Toxin)
• Shattered Edge
• Scattershot Enhanced
• Toxic Arrows

6x Poison-Element Imbue on Jades
Substats:

• 6x Attack
• 6x DMG to Boss
• 6x Ranged Damage OR Windfall depending on your budget.
• 6x Weapon Repair Kit Boon OR Windfall depending on your budget.

[hidden creek]

what are u guys even talking about lol

[quaint girder]

Tree will be Red and Green tree heading towards the Deadeye potentials.

[hidden creek]

one void destroyer proc ANY elements

[north lynx]

Yes

[hidden creek]

doesn't matter it's toxic or thunder or frost arrows being equipped

[north lynx]

Yes

[hidden creek]

and element dmg is irrelevant because you don't run element dmg on soul jades

[quaint girder]

Frost's Damage Coefficients are very slightly higher from Dark's calculations.

[north lynx]

Minor damage differences matter

[hidden creek]

no it doesn't lmfao

[north lynx]

Esp when you are time maxxing for yamas

[quaint girder]

Does poison have a lower toxified threshold or a low element burst CD?

[hidden creek]

also the thing is you will proc element in just 1 void destroyer

[north lynx]

Yes

[hidden creek]

so the proc frequency is the same

between all 3

so why does it matters

[quaint girder]

Because if if toxin has a lower ceiling then tabbie is right, it doesn't matter because Void procs every element anyway

[hidden creek]

you can't proc poison more often than ice or thunder anyway

[north lynx]

Ok

[quaint girder]

but if Poison has a lower element burst CD then Xilenced is right.

[hidden creek]

it isn't

elemental burst cd are the same between all elements

[quaint girder]

then yeah, then it doesn't really matter

[north lynx]

Then it does matter

It would be ice if that's the case

[quaint girder]

if you really want to eak out that extra bit of damage just go frost arrows due to the higher damage coefficient

as for wielding jades, Elemental Surge must be poison otherwise you will not get the 20% attack boost

the rest can be whatever, you don't lean into elemental burst damage anyway

[white dawn]

[north lynx]

Well whatever does the most

Is what you want

So ice

But then why run ice arrows

If void always procs

[quaint girder]

The base damage multiplier is higher.

Not elemental

[north lynx]

Why

[quaint girder]

Base

[north lynx]

It doesn't have any stats on it or boosts

[quaint girder]

No idea, we tested and found it had a higher coefficient.

let me see if I can find the sheet.

[north lynx]

Seems like a miscalculation there isn't a single damage boost to the jade

It just gives extra elemental accum

So it's worthless if void always procs

[quaint girder]

O u rite, they're all the same @north lynx

[hidden creek]

eh no wielding jades are known to increase the dmg coefficient of the attack not just boosting its element accumulation, even though it doesn't says so on the jade description

[quaint girder]

they're all the same in this report, I'm tripping

I must have been thinking about an earlier report

[hidden creek]

so you always need to test it first

[quaint girder]

in that case

just go poison Xilenced

Toxic Arrows + 6 Poison Wielding.

[quaint girder]

@north lynx build is exactly the same

Windfall is preference/wealth based if you can afford it.

The only issue is ammo economy and reloading.

[north lynx]

Shouldn't be an issue grab teammates repair kits

[quaint girder]

If you use Deadeye correctly to skip 1st stage charge, you fire at a rate of 3 durability per 1 regen from red.

[north lynx]

6 + potential + void trick you'll be fine on ammo

[quaint girder]

You'll be spending a lot of time reloading

[north lynx]

You really don't tbh

[quaint girder]

void trick = that skywalking tech?

[north lynx]

No

It's doing a 2.0 to start then hitting the 1.0 stance

To trigger void on 1.0

[quaint girder]

ofc, there should only be one Deadeye per comp so you just hoard all the kits or drop them around the map so you can just quickly pick up as you dodge the boss in Yamas

[north lynx]

Instead of 2nd

[quaint girder]

Is this the one where you preinput while the Void animation is playing out

where you turn the 2.0 into a 1.0?

[north lynx]

Yeah

[quaint girder]

Because Red tree only replenishes ammo at a fixed time tick (something like 5 seconds for 1 durability)

[north lynx]

Yes but void costs 1 durability

And has an animation time

Realistically if you do it right you won't run out of ammo for a while

At least I wasn't

I had to reload once on the deadeye buildup

Then 1 more

[quaint girder]

hmmm

I believe you

[north lynx]

The void animation is just longer than you'd think + skill and ult rotations

5 secs isn't that long

[quaint girder]

I intuitively felt it was some sort of skill issue, but then again I always reload in the first Deadeye rotation since we burn a lot of ammo getting into Deadeye in the first place

Also I missed some shots and did normal quick release due to controller inputs being inaccurate for me

so yeah, I can see someone with skill and not making ANY mistakes not having enough ammo economy issues

[hidden creek]

you need 3 headshots/4 body shots to enter deadeye

[north lynx]

First deadeye is 2.0, then like 1 second of deadeye animation (approx) then 1.0. That's 4 seconds to start give or take. Then after it's 3 seconds. Cycle in ults and skills and realistically you won't run out of ammo. Void keeps you in deadeye perpetually

Especially on like tess where you want to get that attack boost

Especially if you have like any mod

[hidden creek]

sad that you need to come close to the boss to use ur ult

then you have to charge void from s0 again

[north lynx]

Yeah. You can max range it but it's still mid range and awk

Valda musket is def the best for never being near the boss ever

And just pew pewing

[hidden creek]

musket move you forward after each shot so it's also kinda dumb

but yea she's still the best with it lol

[quaint girder]

I hate this so much

[quaint girder]

forgot about the F weaves

If you're weaving F and V and pop every Void without botching a shot

the regen is more than enough

yeah, then you can pull off the maximum theoreticals on Deadeye Bow

[quaint girder]

@north lynx This will be your build then. You just all out the damage.

[hidden creek]

get rid of renewed vigor for toxin surge

and run red tree for attack and dmg to boss nodes

[quaint girder]

O rite

[north lynx]

Does void actually proc surge?

[hidden creek]

nah surge is just there for the 20% attk boost

[north lynx]

O nm

[hidden creek]

on this build

[north lynx]

Yeah yeah thinking of seep

[quaint girder]

yeah

wait

no

[north lynx]

It doesn't ik

[quaint girder]

get rid of shattered for Elemental Surge

you get 2% more Attack

[hidden creek]

nah man

you don't run green tree anymore

so vigor useless

[quaint girder]

Renewed is basically on 24/7

[quaint girder]

but Zero ran Blue because he had issues maintaining Deadeye

Xilenced says he has none

so he can just go for unlimited power

[hidden creek]

that's the thing

running red tree gives more attk and dmg to boss

lol

u lose 2% from sj but u gain more from potentials

[quaint girder]

But you just run Red with Green

[hidden creek]

red and blue

[hidden creek]

.

[quaint girder]

ah, but does it make up for the 22% attack lost?

[fickle linden]

what's howling plains

[hidden creek]

wdym 22%

[north lynx]

I think hes right get rid of renewed q

[fierce light]

Gotcha

[quaint girder]

-20% Renewed Vigor and -2% from Shattered

[hidden creek]

wot

[quaint girder]

How much do the Red Nodes give in stats

[cursive fable]

how long does it take for u guys to burn 2400 fatigues

[fierce light]

Don't think the silence would do anything anyway

[quaint girder]

I see the 3 red nodes you take instead of the green tree

[quaint girder]

2 days if hardcore

probably like 4 days if midcore

never if casual

[cursive fable]

ya esp without tempered inferno

[quaint girder]

what are the stat in those stat nodes on red that replace Renewed?

[hidden creek]

• from:
  Scattershot Enhance,
  Toxic Arrows | Frost Arrows | Thunder Arrows,
  Element Surge (Poison-Wielding)
  Renewed Vigor
  Backfire
  Desperation
• to:
  Scattershot Enhance,
  Toxic Arrows | Frost Arrows | Thunder Arrows,
  Element Surge (Poison-Wielding)
  Backfire
  Desperation
  Shattered Edge

so shattered edge instead of vigor

-2% attack on sj

[fierce light]

Bow has a ridiculously bad Counterstrike tbh. It barely restores any Deadeye either so it's almost a net loss.

[quaint girder]

ooooo

[hidden creek]

but +4.5% attk and 5% dmg to boss from red tree potential

[quaint girder]

wait

ahh

I see it

you only lose 2% with shattered, but it becomes a net positive with the 2.5% attack bonus (lose 2% to shattered) and 5% to damage to boss

yeah then that's the move

remove green tree, just go full red/blue like tabbie posted

and no Craftsmanship/Weapon Kits

just raw unlimited power.

[hidden creek]

i mean if it got too bad then can always ditch shattered edge for craftmanship

[cursive fable]

what is the safest build for now?

[hidden creek]

but it looks like we don't need to

[cursive fable]

ice surge build(melee)?

[hidden creek]

ice lotus chain

it's on pinned

risk-free build

good aoe

everyone can use

[frozen fog]

https://tenor.com/view/cavemanspongebob-caveman-spongebob-react-whatreact-gif-20206670

there's builds here

nice

[quaint girder]

Bow is solveddddddd

Just Deadeye Musket now and then everyone can go back the melee element crafting again

[hidden creek]

bro u gotta try the classic spring thunder build for musket

i think it could really out damage thunder surge musket

but musket got so many issues i don't even want to play with it so bye lmfao

[quaint girder]

I will

I'm going to make sure Musket is solved. And whoever wants to become a sliding turret can live their dreams

[fierce light]

They all have the same coefficient

Had me scared for a second there. Thought they gimped Poison again for no reason.

[hidden creek]

god damn bow build gives SO MUCH rage

[dusky sparrow]

Nirritiri ruins.
How do I get all the secret anima rings to show up? What combo ring types do I build?

[hidden creek]

these

take like 9 rings of the same category then don't take more of that category

chance for boon rings to show up

stage difficulty doesn't matters

[bold ice]

whats the ILC potential plan?

[fierce light]

1 minute of continous shooting with Craftmanship

40s of continous shooting without Craftmanship

50% more uptime, lot more than I was expecting, but it makes sense.

[cursive fable]

@fierce light hi dark

i saw a video just now

the person clearing topaz with justina in 3min

lol

[fierce light]

Nice! Going to be even faster when we get to level 100.

[cursive fable]

its prob the most efficient char

i saw your recommend build on lce lotus chain

does the dmg really sucks compare to ice surge?

i mean to be fair

both sets use 4 exact same jades

[hidden creek]

no one says its dmg sucks compare to ice surge

[cursive fable]

i was checking the bilbili comment(chinese youtube)

people keep saying it sucks(the ratio got nerfed)

alot of people are mad missed cuz they gotta rework on jades

[fierce light]

Ice Lotus Chain pulls ahead the more enemies there are to space out Ice Blasts within 4s (the cooldown of Chill Spike).

It's actually better on any hero that's not Justina.

[hidden creek]

haven't seen Dark's but pretty sure it looks like this

last points into green/blue surge nodes

[cursive fable]

@fierce light for single target too?(outside of justina)

[fierce light]

https://dark-zer0.github.io/Showdown/img/builds/trees/3.0/ILC.png

[fierce light]

Yes

[cursive fable]

oh fk

i just disenchanted elemental lotus

[fierce light]

Cause other heroes take 6s+ to activate Ice Blast

[cursive fable]

loll

[hidden creek]

the fuuuu

why

😂

y u give up on 25% ice blast dmg and 12% attack for rage regen

[quaint girder]

@north lynx what do you think?

[fierce light]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1300937734466310272/1364380518145327284/image.png?ex=684966a0&is=68481520&hm=66357a7fb701e9a93d3cb16c27a58b02a07950b1b8dde364ce9b14cc91cd6c10&

I made this chart a little while back for Curios. But basically Justina is the only hero that can activate it right at 4s, even on bosses.

So she can fit in 6 Ice Thorns (the attack Chill Spike summons) in one Frostbite Surge with 1s of leeway.

[cursive fable]

bro ty for the dedication

i prob wont even play justina

[hidden creek]

good, now test the rotation with F and V included

[cursive fable]

cuz i have no good extreme skins on her lol

[fierce light]

While other heroes can at most fit 3.

[fierce light]

The uptime would be even more exaggerated

[bold ice]

i love how everyone hated the manticore AOEs and stall attacks

[fierce light]

Since Craftmanship in general gives more Ammo/s

[bold ice]

so we're given a new boss with more AOE and stall attacks

[fierce light]

New boss isn't that bad since they don't last that long

It has the usual ultimate attack

[bold ice]

that much is true but its still AOE/stall

[cursive fable]

this is the only souljade i have that is good

[bold ice]

really shouldnt be that hard to look up community-favorite bosses from souls or something and look whats done right

[cursive fable]

im glad elemental surge is used in both lotus/surge build

[normal socket]

this wrath of the spirits boss is driving me insane, did they give him a new attack or what

[dusky sparrow]

Do we exactly how that functions? Or is it rng pseudo science?

[hidden creek]

it's essentially is a ring that increase whatever number of rings left you're needing for lv2 blessing

[dusky sparrow]

Ah

[hidden creek]

most ppl says it poped when you got like around 9 rings of the same category, but i once got it at like 3 rings of the same category

straight up from 3 to 12

[dusky sparrow]

So we have 13 different secrets but only like 10 categories

How does that math????

[hidden creek]

ranged category got new rings too

ontop of the boon ring

[cursive fable]

right now its so hard to tell which jades will stay Best till the end of season

should i just invest my rare crystals on Successive ice blast?

frozen blast

elemental surge

those 3 seems like a safer choice that is kinda used in every build

[dusky sparrow]

There are 10 categories of rings.
For some of them do I just do a bunch of 4 ofs?

[hidden creek]

just pick the category that you haven't collected everything but don't stack them to 12

and the new rings will pop up

it's just that

[fierce light]

Successive Ice Blast is unlikely to be replaced. Frozen Blast becomes more valuable with Curios since we can boost our accumulation rate even further with them.

Element Surge powercreeps Tundra Might so that's unlikely to go as well

[dusky sparrow]

So uh. I am just gonna list what I have. You tell me what to take to proc.

Ranged is DEFINITELY not there and will be needed.
Spirit sap, divinity guard, last chance, sheer momentum, atomize, fatal finish, spectral arisal, and avarice

[fierce light]

Okay I did the math, Shattered Edge, at max build, ends up being 5.6% stronger than Craftmanship.

[balmy coral]

We're basically waiting for Justina curiou

[hidden creek]

oh you mean secret rings
you're lacking:

• inferno hero: pick viper/temulch/tarka/matari/yoto/justina and get useless rock ring (which is another secret ring) then keep playing, high chance inferno hero will pops, i don't remember if you must run ns/legend for this or not
• divine army from the sky: https://youtu.be/kRkeLt0mMa0, note that this one you must run nightscream/legend
• bolt charm: usually pops when you got lv2 bolt blessing
• aqua chains: seems to be randomly pops

[hidden creek]

🤔 actually affordable dps lost for more utility

[dusky sparrow]

2 weekly quests more to be completed for cursed chest.
Am gonna go die in a corner now

[balmy coral]

I don't even know what to run next reset.

[hidden creek]

pretty much just nirriti til peak open lol

[balmy coral]

nirriti is only bearable when u solo

[hidden creek]

i never run trio nirriti

[balmy coral]

waiting for them to enter the gate vs instant gate clearance

[fierce light]

You don't activate Elemental Surge in Ice Lotus Chain.

[rocky oriole]

Does justina ult increase frostbite on a boss? it feels kind of underwhelming if it doesn't

[fierce light]

Likely has a reduced amount since it scales from Ice Blast DMG.

[rocky oriole]

ohhh ok

also am I tripping or does howling plains not exist

[balmy coral]

Iirc was it the windswept wasteland

[rocky oriole]

oo thanks!

[dusky sparrow]

@fierce light do we have an "optimal" poison jade set yet theory crafted?

[hidden creek]

oh yeah wtf

i was running depth's blast instead of frozen blast lol

[fierce light]

Toxin Surge looks to be the strongest option.

[autumn badger]

yeah they renamed it, if you click the "jump to" button it'll take you to windswept

[dusky sparrow]

What 6 jades are we running?
Ele lotus, ghastbloom, pest pool, infected touch, ele surge?

[north lynx]

About what

You don't need craftsmanship. He's not cycling skills or ults and he's only getting 20 seconds less time. The damage you get from a better jade far outweighs any downtime anyway, yamas will be some 1 min 30 time anyway, with a boss form switch where you can reload, you are not going to to need extra uptime

[hidden creek]

check the pin

[north lynx]

When's the last time competitive yamas ever went over 2 mins in trios with maxed builds

[fierce light]

I did the math, even at 2 minutes and at max build, Craftmanship (CMS) loses against Shattered Edge (SE). I think it'll be helpful for Enigma and stuff where you have to go from area to area. But we'll have to see.

[heavy gulch]

hi

[fierce light]

Funny enough, Repair Roll ends up being a larger increase than Craftmanship. 😭

[fierce light]

Heya

[lucid ore]

Fastest way with least effort to burn through fatigue right now? got like 1200 fatigue left before rest

[fierce light]

Nirriti's Ruins Normal

[lucid ore]

Thanks

Time to bring out tarka cannon

[balmy coral]

play Justina much faster

[lucid ore]

but more effort.. welp my wrist kinda hurting so trying to move it as little as possible

[autumn badger]

rifle time

[fierce light]

Lol the Thunder build is honestly not easy to even use in Tianhai's Ultimate since it blocks majority of the bolt.

[summer nymph]

anyone know the name of 2 that i missing here ?

[hidden creek]

divine army from the sky & inferno hero

[summer nymph]

any trick to get them ? xD

[hidden creek]

here

[summer nymph]

i pick viper and got uselss rock but it doesnt unlock inferno hero ?

[hidden creek]

useless rock is just a prerequisite

you must get it in order for inferno hero to pops up on the same run, but there's no guarantee inferno hero will appear even if you got useless rock

[summer nymph]

so i have to keep playing viper ?

divinie army from the sky only trios or can get it in solo ?

[hidden creek]

can get in solo

[tribal wave]

Does anyone know what are good attributes to put on souljades?

[hidden creek]

read everything on this channel pinned posts

[fierce light]

Solo'd it with Bow

[tribal wave]

@hidden creek okay thanks but where do I go to, to ask how to get essences like thunder, Ice, and poison?

[hidden creek]

just play showdown

it drops on stages

[fierce light]

Weekly quests give you those, very slowly

[hidden creek]

you also get them via weeklies and events

and showdown battlepass

[tribal wave]

Ah, okay. Thank you

[quaint girder]

Awesome find Dark!

So Craftsmanship/Repair Roll can be seen as budget/training wheels for newbies or people learning to Deadeye and then they transition into a full on build

[quaint girder]

Deadeye Bow definitely going to be a part of the meta this Season

[fierce light]

Kinda wishing I would wait before I do this kinda math to invest lol

Ngl I'm almost running out ammo in Yama's since I took it off though. Even with the runs being under 20s and starting off with Deadeye.

[hidden creek]

so if you have waited you'd go for bow build first?

[fierce light]

No, I just wouldn't have bothered with Craftmanship

[hidden creek]

oh

[fierce light]

Still happy with my ice build

Just missing one Windfall on both.

[hidden creek]

i shouldn't dismantle my double windfall ghastbloom but eh

😂

[fierce light]

?

Not making an ILC build?

[hidden creek]

i dissed that jade for ice surge

but eh

[fierce light]

Oh you already did it

[hidden creek]

i should still be able to finish ice surge, ice lotus and bow build during this season

[fierce light]

You making your build or the other one?

[hidden creek]

not decided yet, my build doesn't looks that good dmg wise

i mostly worried about getting 1shot but looks like bow gameplay is really safe

hey maybe when curio hit there'll be one that gives massive buff to surge state

and my bow build could take best of both world

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[fierce light]

Well it's not very futureproof either, cause they'll probably remove those attack buffs from the Potential

[hidden creek]

yeah
it feels good when i could come up with a build with good souljades synergy and make the most use of potential plan but

it's not the highest dmg build so in the end it's just not good enough

[fierce light]

Wish they gave ranged weapons a Defuse as well

That would help against the self freeze on it

[hidden creek]

on justina and temulch it's not an issue, cuz justina aren't afraid of self-freeze and temmy F cd is quick

on tessa prolly gonna need 1 mod lol

or cycling between F and V to avoid the self freeze, which is totally doable since bow build gives so many rage so you basically always got enough rage for ult

[fierce light]

I think ima go for x6 Attack, x6 DMG to Bosses, x6 Ranged DMG, x1 Moderation & x5 Windfall

The Deadeye Rate I can get around with a headshot. The first shot is pretty much free as the boss doesn't move

[hidden creek]

at worst situation can always swap defuse the freeze but ig it's too much of a hassle

if only the build does more dmg then it'd be worth it, but nope it does lower dmg than backfire build

[fierce light]

I can hardly defuse the freeze so I'm a bit adverse to it

I thought I figured it out, but the timing isn't consistent

[hidden creek]

is it weird that i find new self freeze defuse easier than old one? lol

like you can just defuse when the blue light pops

[fierce light]

I don't know what's going on

I could probably make clips of me doing it at different timings and it failing

[hidden creek]

actually some ppl has been complaining recently

about the move timing being inconsistent

https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1380791626883924199

oh you were there

[fierce light]

Oh that was cause my Xbox was overheating

Had to reposition it

[lucid ore]

They removed Honed cartridge and finale shot from range blessing.. sadge

[fierce light]

They seem a lot more universal at least

Well I'm still sure how that Blessing II works

[quaint girder]

I wish I could have tested Musket tonight

Wife and I had to do a lot of errands so only had time for dailies now I'm about to fall asleep

[fierce light]

https://youtu.be/iyk3A0jq3cU?si=JJ-d-qdJntnF77Ta

[tribal venture]

guys, do frostbite surge build still need ice blast dmg or just swap it to boss dmg stat?

[fierce light]

Yes, Chill Spike and Frostbite Chain are considered Ice Blast DMG

[tribal venture]

for now i'm still running thunderscorch until i get some mods on the ice set and i struggled on the last stage in doom

[tribal venture]

okay thank you

[fierce light]

Yeah Thunder Scorch took quite a hit to its damage.

[summer ridge]

My fatigue resets soon hahahaha

[signal kite]

Our*

[summer ridge]

No I won’t reset yours until 1 month from now

[hard storm]

WOAH, that is such an amazing video 😮 congrats on the damage output with Tessa's bow

It takes time building ice set souljades right?

[rotund forge]

doom domain anybody

[rotund forge]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-a-minute-who-are-you-wait-a-minute-who-are-you-wait-a-minute-meme-gif-6530377969626129604

u are the guide guy

[signal kite]

Lol

[plain spire]

scarttershot enhance is core bow build?

[quaint girder]

Scattershot Enhance + Elemental Arrows

The build is already done

I think Zero added it onto his site

[fierce light]

Yeah, i had about a month's worth of materials. Got fairly lucky on the rares too, only got 2 wrong ones.

[fierce light]

Still need it?

[rotund forge]

ya

im lvl 50

[hard storm]

super congrats xD I wanted to try working on the ice build but haha no mats, got scorch roll hahaaa rip

[fierce light]

Scattershot Enhance and Elemental Arrows have a weird interaction that makes Bow's damage skyrocket. Unfortunately, that makes it rather weak in Nirriti's Ruins, but it's strong outside of it.

[fierce light]

What server

[rotund forge]

what roll should ice geet

[rotund forge]

i joined ur server

[balmy coral]

A week's worth of fragments can do a some progress

[rotund forge]

id?

[fierce light]

I had an ice build already though, so I only had to set up half of it

Just missing 1 Windfall now

[hard storm]

DarkZer0 has it pinned on the board, best guide ever

[rotund forge]

3069600100168

[fierce light]

I'm loading up.
DarkZer0

[hard storm]

I have poison build lol (it's gonna take a while to get rolls and percent attributes xD)

Good luck on your Doom run

[fierce light]

It's kinda rough without Craftmanship if you can't get Deadeye going in 3 shots.

[tribal venture]

if reroll a low atk stat is there a chance for it to roll higher if i got atk again? or am i stuck with that stat unless i recast the value

[hard storm]

such lucky stats xD nice

[amber terrace]

No

[fierce light]

0.8% is the smallest roll you can get, probably should've turned that into the rare attribute tbh.

Stats maintain their same percentage of max when rerolled, in that case 20% of max is the smallest.

[tribal venture]

dang it

[fierce light]

It's easy to raise them up when they're that low though

[signal kite]

XD

Learning it the hard way

[tribal venture]

hopefully we got another suffer demon event soon so i can farm bunch of fodders

[signal kite]

HopeFully

[tribal venture]

yeah both the atk and iceblast is very sadge roll