👾┃showdown

[cursive fable]

loll

[hidden creek]

lol 😂

yeah ig it does

[cursive fable]

do you remember how many star-wolf king were there?

was it similar to nunchunks? like 40 per silk event?

[hidden creek]

yeah

40 each time, 2 times

for a total of 80

[cursive fable]

oh tyty : so only 80 star wolf king and 40 star nunnies exist so far LOL

on global server

so its like around 8 star nunnies on NA server loll

[hidden creek]

yeah

[icy sundial]

best jade for justina ?

[fierce light]

Wow that potential for ranged does heal a lot

Crazy it can proc with one part anyway

[hidden creek]

yep

was testing to see if i can still proc it in case i missed some shots

turn out i can

[hidden creek]

every 3s heals equal to 100% attack damage in number

with a finished build our attack easily reached 500 i think

[fierce light]

Going against the new boss with unbuilt bow build

[hidden creek]

so 500 hp every 3s

[fierce light]

You can shoot her during her Ultimate lol

[hidden creek]

lol

[fierce light]

Weaponry Kit Boon was definitely overkill though

[hidden creek]

mhmm

that red node is enough already

also we can restore weapon durability with succesful parries and dodges

though idk what make a dodge counted as succesful

[fierce light]

Still going to run Craftmanship cause that red node restores 2 ammo oftentimes with it

And yeah solo is definitely not needed

Tf

That first new stage is so easy with ranged

[hidden creek]

you just stay outside of the green circle and shoots stuffs?

[fierce light]

Yeah

[hidden creek]

😂 i gotta try it

[balmy coral]

Won't apply without a team no?

[fierce light]

Some of them are tricky to find though

Annoying how they hid them around

[amber terrace]

[fierce light]

Wait

You can parry those projectiles from the towers?!

[amber terrace]

yes

u can parry shot from tower

[fierce light]

I wish I knew that earlier

Yeah I'm taking Desperation off. It's hardly active cause I heal so much 😂

[balmy coral]

Capped your fatigue yet?

[cursive fable]

i capped pretty fast

was using the 2x pot non-stop lol

bought the bundle/pass

[amber terrace]

no

still 1k2

[fierce light]

Went ahead and spent 200 Fragments starting my Bow build

Pretty pitiful stats, but it's a start

[balmy coral]

It's not worth it thou

Only inferno could justify the use of elixir

[fierce light]

Wow bow is rough solo bossing

I got the new boss 3/4th health on 2nd phase though

[lone umbra]

Is this new lotus build?

[fierce light]

Yeah, one I'm personally using

It's better for mobbing and Non-Justina heroes.

[lone umbra]

For Justina, the new build?

so for bossing new ice build with Justina ? And this ice lotus for other heroes?

[fierce light]

Yes

[balmy coral]

For Justina you'd like stick to the new build and be aware to not dash too far from the boss to avoid the Chain from missing.

[lone umbra]

I guess I need to work to get one mod in new ice lotus and same for new ice build

[balmy coral]

You'd basically need 4 mods to maximize your F

[lone umbra]

finishIng new build is gonna take long. No resources crystal and sj fragments

[lone umbra]

That i know the mod is required FS

So far using my current ice lotus mod build

[balmy coral]

Surge is just too Op to miss out on Justina

[lone umbra]

Justina is fun ngl

[lone umbra]

Yep

[balmy coral]

Farming rn is too slow

[lone umbra]

Nirriti is pain

[balmy coral]

I'm forced to do topaz cos nirriti takes too much time

and too boring

[lone umbra]

You got crystals?

[balmy coral]

Yess fragments 0

I'm this close to dismantling my poison build for new ice build

[amber terrace]

[lone umbra]

I got 0 crystal and running out of fragments

[lone umbra]

I m gonna destroy my poison next week

[balmy coral]

Ye same

I really need 4 mods on Justina

Forget windfall I can scale with elemental surge

[lone umbra]

I got ice build as reserve

[balmy coral]

Just F uptime I can solo topaz

[lone umbra]

Yeah. What lvl are you rn?

[balmy coral]

69 rn

2k fatigue spent

[lone umbra]

Am at 65/66

1.6k fatigue

[balmy coral]

I don't have a team so prioritizing range build is technically unlikely to happen

[turbid agate]

Arcane stratos, bolt mastery, inceniration, enrage, sub-zero seal, and tundra might. what build is that?

saw someone running it

[balmy coral]

If they don't make any changes to Justina and ice build when Inferno opens would be much easier

[turbid agate]

w all three elements wielding

[lone umbra]

I don't have dedicated team as well. Most time i get partied with friends of friends. We can party up sometime

[balmy coral]

We can do topaz sometimes

I'd appreciate a team if I get Justina

[lone umbra]

You can go justina, I can go Tessa/zip

Wuchen is in bad state rn

[balmy coral]

[fierce light]

Could be harder. Since her skill alone won't be enough to proc Ice Blast anymore

[lone umbra]

I was playing Tessa whole last season and since the start of new season ditched her like a lab rat

[balmy coral]

I meant her F you'd have no fear of missing out of any mobs + clearing camps

Especially manticore won't be a problem anymore

Thou fr you'd be highly reliant on her F and ult

[lone umbra]

@fierce light how bad justina performs on new ice lotus you mentioned?

Coz i got 4 mod with new and old lotus build

[fierce light]

I'm curious if Tessa's Curio will work with Bow

[fierce light]

She's good on either one

Just her BiS is the new one with Chill Spike. Particularly against bosses, since it has a 4s cooldown

[lone umbra]

BiS?

[fierce light]

Best-in-Slot

[lone umbra]

So I think I got 4 mod in new build and miss 2 windfalls from subzero

Is it going to good dmg from old?

[fierce light]

Yeah, old had its base damage nerfed quite a bit

[balmy coral]

If that's the case would it still be good to do ice blast dmg on Justina?

[fierce light]

Yeah, her Ultimate scales from it

[balmy coral]

I see.

[cursive fable]

hi dark

[drifting lance]

🎉 | 萧瑟秋风今又是 leveled up!

[cursive fable]

does the new ice build sucks without mod?

i have so bad rng on mod, been getting like 7 windfalls in a row

its either windfall/scorching for me

[amber terrace]

no

[balmy coral]

On Justina yess since you'd want your F uptime the most.

If u build ice lotus chain not much

[fierce light]

Hey

[fierce light]

Chill Spike is a lot less effective without mod

[cursive fable]

ya :c mod is too important

lotus build absolutely sucks right now lol

we still have like 2-3 free rare crystals

0.5 from the event, 1 from pass, 1 from 920 seasonal

not bad

[amber terrace]

lol, i'm missing TI

so slow

[balmy coral]

Same lol

Just too good

7 mins run for 4 gold and some

[amber terrace]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/854349537056522251.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=01a_FrogeFurious

[fierce light]

Wish you could defuse with bow

[amber terrace]

yea

[summer ridge]

Man leveling up takes forever

I just want to be lvl 77 already

So I can cook

[cursive fable]

level 77 is this weeks cap?

[crimson cave]

i was capped at 73

but i didnt get any boosts from old jades

i saw people at like 79 i think

in leaderboards

i suppose you can be almost 90 if you had +15 from old sense level

or 80 at least

[raw magnet]

what is sould jade rating ?

[neat cave]

all i can do with blue jades is now conversion? or do i miss something

[tribal venture]

what to do with blue jades now

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Flavdz leveled up!

[crimson cave]

turn to purp 20 to 1

with a 10% of gold

wish you could deconstruct them for mats tho

[tribal venture]

[summer ridge]

I just use whatever jades have the flashy attacks hehe

[river stratus]

use tikets xp

[half whale]

so what is the new souljade combo this season?

[summer ridge]

It’s you

[summer ridge]

Finally lvl 50 what’s the max I can go to atm

[timid stirrup]

70s

[woven musk]

im at 1845/2400 fatigue and im lv 69 and almost half exp to 70

[bitter laurel]

how are the new potential trees looking like for each element that we are going??

[timid stirrup]

@fierce light is there a world where maybe a toxic lotus chain or toxic lotus surge is valid/effective?

[summer ridge]

Crazy how u get there so fast

[summer ridge]

Does it make a difference on Yama abyss by a lot

[summer ridge]

Yes

[woven musk]

you mean nitris?

[summer ridge]

Yama abyss

Nirriti is based off your fire forge

[woven musk]

oh, idk i finished yama at around 55 i think

zipin abuser

[summer ridge]

I’m using feira Shen

Bc mech cool

[woven musk]

hope in the future they'll allow us to choose weapons

[vale bloom]

did someone already get the chance to test how good the Poison build is?

[void yew]

I've completed all of Nirriti's quests except "By a Thread"

So what to do now...

2400

[fair shuttle]

how to reach 2400 so fast

[void yew]

In general, it usually takes about 3 hours in hell, so I had to complete all of Nirriti's quests :)

[fair shuttle]

damn

i was farming here

only 921

[void yew]

I decided to complete the stuffy Niriiti quests in the first week so as not to waste more Fatigue there.

[fair shuttle]

[fierce light]

79 is likely the cap. Not possible to be above 80 this week.

[fierce light]

Haven't gotten around to testing it yet, I'll probably do it today

[fierce light]

Your level is probably one of the biggest increases in your damage. At Lv. 77, my Hero Ability alone one shots the mobs in Solar 2.

[summer ridge]

I’m having fun with this build

Not the strongest but it’s definitely fun

Infinite ammo

[fierce light]

It's a good option for Wuchen, Kurumi & Matari (if mobbing). Hardly competes with Ice Builds on other heroes though

[vale bloom]

is it valid for yamas? i'm currently deciding with what build i should start. Mainly for wuchen

[summer ridge]

Water build C:

I don’t think I can leave my thunder build behind 😔

It’s too much fun

[fickle linden]

what's the jade that drops ice spike on enemies? i had it when i just started showdown

some basic jade

[summer ridge]

It’s gold jade

[fierce light]

Poison definetly is Wuchen's best option, although I still have to test Poison Lotus Chain (Pestilent Pool, Infectious Touch, Toxified Lotus, Ghastbloom, Element Surge, & Toxin Seep).

[summer ridge]

Forgot the name of it tho

[fickle linden]

i loved that jade when i was total noob

[fierce light]

Ice Fall

[summer ridge]

I told the devs dismantle ur favorite jades

[vale bloom]

do you do the tests for every hero?

[fickle linden]

i need it to become strongg

[summer ridge]

[fierce light]

Mainly the ones ik won't work with certain builds or when it's really close between builds.

[summer ridge]

What do you think of my musket build zero pretty flashy right

[vale bloom]

and should i just go for 8 windfall? because i cant see usage of moderation on wuchen

[summer ridge]

What does windfall even do

[vale bloom]

50% more sub-attributes on a souljade

[summer ridge]

It’s just a buff to your other stats

[vale bloom]

yes

[fickle linden]

think i got showdown level xp from heroes assemble?

not sure how much, but it got me level

[summer ridge]

I might need that as a noobie

[wheat lodge]

fast way for farm shodown levels?

[crimson cave]

ruins with exp boost and x2 elixir?

[fickle linden]

if you use elixir in nirriti ima slap you

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-gif-25783770

[timid stirrup]

Thankfully ur not slapping me cuz I don't have any elixirs @fickle linden

[fierce light]

Oh that's how 79 is possible

[fickle linden]

think so

anyone know which audio setting is for deadeye sound? it was really annoying in heroes assemble

[timid stirrup]

Somebody asked that a day or 2 ago. Nobody has found it yet

[crimson cave]

question

if you have like 5 fatigue left

and do a 75 thing

will you get full rewards

ir only 5 fat worth of it

[fickle linden]

yes

[restive cave]

what does that souljade stoneform mean i never understood it

[fierce light]

If you clash with a Focus Attack (blue attack), it'll do a block animation and if you continue holding down the attack button it'll do a full charged attack right after.

[crimson cave]

so leave 5 fat go for that 75 domain with elixir and you are good for extra free 145 fat hehe

[restive cave]

ohh I have seen that happen ty

[summer ridge]

I used 10 of them in nirriti sry

[fickle linden]

https://tenor.com/view/shock-shocked-shocked-cat-shocked-meme-shocked-face-gif-6329997493175349435

[summer ridge]

Fatigue is just rewards drops tho correct nothing to do with xp

I’ve been stacking 100% xp buff with a 50% xp buff

[quaint girder]

Hmm, what about Elemental Surge Poison? It gives a flat 20% Attack.

[hidden creek]

yeah can replace shattered edge on backfire build

[fierce light]

There's nothing that consumes 75 fatigue right now

But that is a trick you can do to expand your fatigue

[quaint girder]

Have to keep

Desperation is rarely on cause green tree overheals

So it's functionally a dead SJ

[hidden creek]

does it really overheal tho

in real bosses fights

[quaint girder]

Zero said he was basically full HP during fights so

And he was testing solo

Deadeye is meant to be a Trios build with a tank

[hidden creek]

if you continue shooting and don't miss i don't think ur hp gonna goes over 50%

[quaint girder]

So you most likely won't get damaged enough from external sources and Backfire doesn't get low enough apparently because Green tree auto heals

Hmm

Maybe Zero needs a Trios to test with

[hidden creek]

if you're on perma deadeye mode there's no way ur hp goes over 50% with backfire

[quaint girder]

@fierce light maybe you should get a Tianhai and Yueshan teammate to take permaaggro

So you can test and land every Deadeye to see HP drain

[hidden creek]

also

you can't turn off auto hp regen in training right

can't seems to find the option

[summer ridge]

Hi

[fierce light]

Particularly at 525 fatigue you can do 2 Enigma or 1 Ruins + 1 incomplete Ruins run. Then fit in a Tempered Inferno after.

[hidden creek]

[quaint girder]

It's not in Training, Zero said it was during story mode missions

Which makes me think we need additional testing

[hidden creek]

but 1: he's doing mobbing and 2: he's running it solo

which makes him the target

[quaint girder]

Exactly

[hidden creek]

which makes him need to dodge and run

[quaint girder]

That's why I said additional testing is needed

Need to get him a Frontline for the boss itself

And if he lands every Deadeye we can see if Desperation will remain permanently

[hidden creek]

anyway it doesn't really matters

because

desperation is just a dmg increase jade

[summer ridge]

Expert showdown players

[hidden creek]

if it's not good on certain stage we can always replace it with a diff dmg increase jade

[summer ridge]

I just hit them until they die

[hidden creek]

doesn't affect the synergy of the build at all

i guess it's just depend on hm dmg you could do so you can keep desperation up alot or not

[river stratus]

once curio get unlocked kurumi can heal you, no need green tree to activate renewed vigor

[hidden creek]

ah yeah not to mention if you got a zip in ur pt

lmfao

she pops her V then desperation is cooked

[river stratus]

yea

so is needed a build for solo and another one for trio

[hidden creek]

lol you should never run ranged build solo i think

[fierce light]

I thought there was an option for it but no. The healing did make it hard to upkeep Desperation

I can't believe I forgot about Element Surge - Poison though. 20% Attack right there

[hidden creek]

so

this?

[fierce light]

Ranged boon probably

[viscid wraith]

you're missing range boon

[fierce light]

Yeah that could work I'm using Craftmanship instead of Shattered Edge. I ran out of Fragments though so I'm on hold for putting on Element Surge.

[quaint girder]

You can still run it, just make sure your Kurumi tethers the tank instead.

[quaint girder]

Yep, I was trying to cook that toxin melee bow build but it's kinda impractical

[hidden creek]

also how about this potential plan

[quaint girder]

WAIT, MAYBE IT CAN BE A MOBBING BUILD

[fierce light]

You don't have to activate it for the 20% Attack

[hidden creek]

eh no you equips that just for the 20% attack

[quaint girder]

Honestly, you rarely have issues for Deadeye meter

[quaint girder]

I know that! But I meant for Afterglow/Fury

[hidden creek]

not worth it at all if you have to stay close to the mobs to get toxified

[fierce light]

I have 16.7% Deadeye Rate. It's just enough to build up Deadeye in 3 shots instead of 4.

[quaint girder]

Bro I know 💀

I meant to get the juicy Afterglow/Fury buffs from potential

[fierce light]

Ah gotcha

[quaint girder]

But they're just mobs anyway so it's not like they'll one shot you close

Could be a fun tech option for Enigma

For jungler

[hidden creek]

oh they definitely can, not to mention omens

specially when you're busing charging 2nd stage bow shot

the idea of a close range bow build is absurd 💀 just think about it make me don't wanna try it already

[fierce light]

I spent a couple hours soloing the new boss on Nightscream with Bow

Only managed to get it to half health phase 2

It is rough without a Defuse

[idle tree]

Why we even playing this demo beta version of game???

They adding shit that is not complete or only for certain heroes. Totally make no sense

[fierce light]

Not complete?

But yeah it is weird how they keep favoring certain heroes. Granted the recent patch brought more up to par with stronger abilities/ultimates.

[idle tree]

Yeah i had on zipping Last chance anima ring but i cant use it without bow or musket

or im dumb?

[fierce light]

You either kill an enemy or hit a Weakpoint within that time

I think you can even do a headshot, but Cannon users are out of luck for boss stages.

[hidden creek]

do we prio hitting weakpoints or headshot during deadeye?

[fierce light]

For Bow it doesn't matter much

Rather just hit as often as possible since Elemental Arrows have reduced multipliers

[hidden creek]

https://youtu.be/8-hLpxgz9KI

bruh why is he able to do the s1-s2 charge

thingy

lol

also he doesn't take green tree so no heal = 100% up time desperation

[void yew]

Is there anyone for Platinum 1 - next

[hidden creek]

@fierce light so is this random or what

i notice if my character hold the bow straight like this then next shot need to be charged to 2nd stage for Void Destroyer

[fierce light]

It's a timing thing

[hidden creek]

but if she hold it like this then next shot only need to charge to 1st stage for void destroyer

[hidden creek]

wdym timing thing?

all of those are void destroyer

but if my character hold the bow straight and i release on perfect 1st stage it won't be a void destroyer shot

[fierce light]

Yeah if you time the next charge just right it'll start at Stage 1 so you can go to the next Void Destroyer significantly faster

I think it's around the time of the 3rd flash you want to start charging again

[fierce light]

Thanks BTW could probably use this to frame count

[hidden creek]

OHHHHHHH

[hidden creek]

ok it's tthis

so i have to precharge it

that's why

[fierce light]

Yeah i managed to kill the new boss's 1st phase in like a minute from that

[hidden creek]

bro

it wasn't mentioned

anywhere

i wonder if it's a bug

[fierce light]

It's likely intended since the base bow kinda works that way

Although there's much more lax timing for base bow

Flying musket isn't mentioned either

[north lynx]

It's anti synergy to have desperation and renewed right?

I get healing good but ranged players are safe

[fierce light]

As long as you're not healing above 50% its fine

Desperation makes Backfire hurt more

[north lynx]

Wouldn't you be from potential?

O neat

So u just stay there

Ok so it is worth to run renewed

[fierce light]

Think it takes like 3 heal ticks to go over 50%

[north lynx]

Do you outheal backfire?

Also did we solve the strongest element for ranged yet?

[hidden creek]

if you keep hitting every shots and no one is healing you you'll out heal backfire

[north lynx]

Oh

[hidden creek]

element doesn't matters on bow

i think

[north lynx]

This is bad then for renewed no?

Would like desperation shield no heal work better? Play at 1 hp the whole time

But ur ranged so ur safe

[hidden creek]

hmm not really

cuz renewed increase ur attack whenever you receive a recovery effect

and with backfire you usually not at full hp

[north lynx]

I mean desperation > renewed tho no?

Wouldn't you rather always have that up

[hidden creek]

desperation is harder to keep

yeah

[north lynx]

So yeah we toss healing potential and renewed for max dps

It's leas safe but as a ranged player ur super safe regardless

[hidden creek]

yeah and be at 1hp all the time

[north lynx]

Ye ye

Thst should be fine I mean us scorching players were perfectly fine with running copper ward

And it was much more dangerous

[hidden creek]

i mean there's bosses's with random tracking throwing projectiles

[north lynx]

Ranged ur like safe

[hidden creek]

but if you can manage with 1 hp then sure

i still think it's risky tho

[north lynx]

Ye but so was copper ward

More dps = better time

[hidden creek]

difference is

on scorching copperward you can still defuse

but with ranged you either parry or dodge

[north lynx]

Crouch animation cancel wep swap defuse go back

[hidden creek]

lmfao

ok

[north lynx]

I mean it's like the same skill as thubderpull double scorching proc

Esp if that's the only thing you gotta worry about

[fierce light]

It can happen when soloing since you'll have to take time out to avoid the boss's attacks

But in Trios, I doubt it.

[north lynx]

Wait constant dps doesn't outheal?

[fierce light]

They all hit for the same damage, unless you mean Wielding. Probably Poison Wielding on Element Surge then. Unless you're using Tabbie's build, then Ice.

[hidden creek]

lmfao what did i just said

i meant to say

if you keep hitting everry shots and no one healing u

u won't outheal backfire

[north lynx]

Ohhh

[hidden creek]

LMAO

[north lynx]

Ok renewed is a w then

[hidden creek]

also desperation

but

if there's a kurumi linking you

or a zip in ur pt

tsk

[fierce light]

Void Destroyer does so much damage that often the first one you do will put you below 50%

[north lynx]

Kuromi can link to the tarka or justina

I feel like tessa is the goto bow user

[fierce light]

Yeah would be more effective since they would benefit from the damage reduction

[hidden creek]

i cooked up a bow build for justina but it does less dmg compare to this classic bow build lol

[fierce light]

Temulch can work on Bow, noticed it still charges your Ultimate really fast

[hidden creek]

also justina probably better off playing ice surge

[north lynx]

Justina has crazy ice stuff anyway probably better to abuse that stuff

Instead of going ranged

[hidden creek]

but fuuuuuuun

[north lynx]

Tru

[hidden creek]

🥹

[fierce light]

Yeah waste to play Bow build on her

[north lynx]

But tessa damage boost on f

[fierce light]

Temulch's ability does offer an extended dodge

[north lynx]

Kinda hot

[quaint girder]

Yeah

Ideal bow user rn is Tessa for max DPS

Safe bow user for learning is Justina

Temmy is kind of in a limbo, but we'll have to test

Dark, do you think with how fast bow charges Ulti for Temmy

He can be an ulti spammer instead that breaks aegis on high level Yama's?

Where his rotation isn't DPS, but having 100% uptime on Ulti and spamming sand balls at boss?

And Deadeye is just a means to keep Ulti Uptime?

Am cooking crazy ideas now to see what we can push

[fierce light]

Temulch is the defensive option:

• Skill provides extended iframes, avoiding nearly any attack, shreds Aegis and stuns mobs without Astral Aegis.
• • Also provides protection from projectiles.
• Ultimate protects the immediate area from projectiles.
• • Shreds Aegis of anything inside.

Tessa is the aggressive option:

• Skill hits harder than Temulch's and groups mobs.
• Ultimate rewards aggressive play with increased Aegis DMG. Also staggers enemies in the immediate area.

[quaint girder]

Hmm

Kind of want to see Aegis shred rate on a high level Yama's play with Temmy in a group with Deadeye

Vs Tessa Ulti

It may be worth pursuing a Deadeye Temmy build if he can break Aegis on high level Yama

[fierce light]

Would be hard to upkeep it unless you use Enrage, but you'll still lose Deadeye every ultimate. So you'd have to go really utility based with your attributes.

[quaint girder]

That's the point

[fierce light]

Temulch's ult was doing more to the new boss's Aegis when I was soloing it last night

[quaint girder]

We'd probs have to sack a bit of damage and take Blue tree

[fierce light]

I don't think it's worth sacking damage

[quaint girder]

Hmm

[fierce light]

Void Destroyer likely does more Aegis DMG anyway than his Skill spam.

[quaint girder]

Sad

Thought we can bring Temmy back from obscurity

It's obvious now, Deadeye is now just Tessa

[fierce light]

You just pop ult, then back up and spam Void Destroyer, using your Skill whenever you're in a bad position.

[quaint girder]

Yeah Temmy is just defensive/progging options like Justina

Use him to learn fights, then use Tessa for clear times

[north lynx]

Imagine if they actually made anything to do with Astral aegis viable in yamas lolol

[fierce light]

Can one of yall test if Tessa's Curio activates from Void Destroyer?

You likely won't use Temulch's ult in Yama's

Aside from countering Aureate's transformation to phase 2

[quaint girder]

Can we even test Curios now?

[fierce light]

I think so

In free training

[quaint girder]

I don't see the fox spirits smacking my mobs

I don't think you can use Curios right now even in training

Also you can't turn off auto heal either

[fierce light]

I thought I saw the tab for Curios in Free Training

Nvm then

[quaint girder]

I think Extra Fox Spirits are the way to go

[fierce light]

Yeah, no need for rage gain

[quaint girder]

Given the insane amount of rage gained per Void Destroyer

Oh man

[fierce light]

Hope we get a Curio for ranged

And something for Surge

[quaint girder]

Desperation Build + Fox Fire + Fox Spirit Curio

That's a lot of damage

[quaint girder]

Probably will given they gave support for Lotus with bell

[fierce light]

Iron Nut Lotus was so bad

[quaint girder]

Dang okay, yeah Tessa is the undisputed Queen of Bows

[quaint girder]

If Deadeye Curio is just as bad as Nut Lotus then Tessa will be the only viable Deadeye user

At least for bows

[fierce light]

Main issue though, you'd have to switch to melee to use her Curio most likely

It does say Charged Attacks in its description, but with how Quick Attack doesn't react to Bow, it could be excluded

[quaint girder]

Ahhh

Yeah I see it

It's only melee

Darn

Then Deadeye needs dedicated Curio support

Dang

Okay

[fierce light]

Yeah if it gets one it'll be fine

[quaint girder]

But I think we more or less solved Bow builds right?

[fierce light]

Void Destroyer has decent AoE with the Elemental Arrows

[quaint girder]

Desperation should still be fine since Void Sunder basically places you at 1 HP

[fierce light]

Yeah it's just finding the best buffs

[quaint girder]

Tessa as the Bow user, let me see who can buff without healing

Tarka's Fireballs amplify damage by 10%

Valda's Ulti increase damage to Aegis by 53%

[north lynx]

U think lotus's jump back into the meta if bell curios come back

[quaint girder]

Aside from those two Kurumi buffs attack but messes with Renewal

Zippy is just Elemental accumulation which is worthless on Desperation build

[fierce light]

I'm still sticking with Craftmanship, but aiming for:

• x6 Attack
• x6 DMG to Bosses
• x6 Ranged Weapon DMG
• x2 Deadeye Build Rate
• x3 No Depletion: Weapon Repair Kit
• x1 [Free Slot]

If I like the build enough, I could see me going for:

• x6 Attack
• x6 DMG to Bosses
• x6 Ranged Weapon DMG
• x2 Deadeye Build Rate
• x4 [Windfall]

11% Deadeye Build Rate puts you right over that threshold to need 3 shots instead of 4 to enter Deadeye.

[quaint girder]

@hidden creek I figured out why the 2nd Stage skip is very inconsistent

[summer ridge]

Finally reached lvl 60

[quaint girder]

Basically the ability to skip into 2nd Stage Bow Charge is dependent on Weakpoint/Headshot hit

[hidden creek]

uh no

you need to precharge it

during void destroyer animation

[quaint girder]

You have to stay aimed. You cannot lift your finger off of the aim.

[hidden creek]

then next shot can skip 1 stage charge

[quaint girder]

Ooo

Let me see

[hidden creek]

void destroyed got 3 shots, like when 2nd shot happening you hold lmb to precharge the next one already

if it success your character will hold the bow like this, notice how it looks slightly upward

not this (pointing straight forward)

[quaint girder]

Ahhh

I see I see

[hidden creek]

so yeah no dodge cancel allowed

💀

[quaint girder]

Self Freeze fucks you up too then darn

[hidden creek]

huh

self free frequency is still the same

cuz during surge state you won't freeze

[fierce light]

I just hate how it ups your sensitivity some reason

It feels really good to aim while it's charging normally

[hidden creek]

yeah

i don't like it at all

but ig there's no choice

cuz the dps diff is insane

[short meadow]

is there any requirement for " last chance " secret anima ring?

[signal kite]

Yeap !! the requirement is Luck .

[short meadow]

Ok

[fierce light]

No requirements, but running a Ranged build seems to increase the chance of it appearing.

[rotund forge]

how to increase lvl in showdown quickly

[north lynx]

Step 1: Unplug your mouse
Step 2: Spin it around your head like a lasso
Step 3: scream "YEEHAW!!"

This is how you get more xp in showdown.

[rotund forge]

[north lynx]

(Best way is to play nirriti ruins with a booster)

[rotund forge]

i see ppl been already lvl 70

[north lynx]

I'm currently lv 73, I could have been higher but I forgot to pop a booster throughout 150%

I think the max you can get this week is like 79

[north lynx]

Credit : @fierce light

[hidden creek]

the 75% drop hurts my soul

so i give up

next week i get to max potential anyway

[stone niche]

literally me rn

its so painful just getting to lvl 70 why ;-;

[fierce light]

Gotta put in the time, no rushing it

Leveling Sense is probably the best imo since it's consistent

[stone niche]

is the max lvl 80 or does it go higher than that

[hidden creek]

ha you said leveling sense instead of nirriti ruin

[fierce light]

So I went ahead and frame counted this, the charge time is nearly halved when you skip stage 0. The overall rate of fire (DPS) increasing by 36.6%.

[hidden creek]

i mean when you think about it, the season last for 3+ months and you only need like 2-3 weeks to get to max level even if you chillin

it's not that bad

[hidden creek]

https://tenor.com/view/a-lot-of-damage-gif-21579882

[timid stirrup]

I was expecting step 3 to b "jump off the chair"

[quaint girder]

It looks like it goes higher. Later Yama's stages show recommended Showdown levels to be higher than 80

[fierce light]

Alright think I got Bow covered now. Onto Musket

[quaint girder]

Yep

Musket time

[stone niche]

true but seeing i go from doing 1 run lvling twice to not even half a lvl is so sayddd ;--;

[stone niche]

ooh interesting i wonder what the lvl cap will be then

[stone niche]

do you have bow build in pinned by any chance?

[hidden creek]

at least 95

[fierce light]

Well tbf, before we'd go up 2-3 Sense Levels per run, but they would often push up the Sense Level range by at least 200 or more. Now its compounded.

[fierce light]

Aside from Elemental Arrows and Scattershot Enhance, you have a lot of options.

[quaint girder]

Testing Hybrid Thunder Builds

Thunder Charge completely negates Mighty Lotus Counter: Lotuses never spawn if you have this jade on

[quaint girder]

Give him the two that have been mostly settled on which is Desperation and Frost Surge

[fierce light]

Yeah, Thunder Charge and Chill Spike are hardly compatible with their Lotus variants

[quaint girder]

Yeah which kind of sucks they have a Red Herring on the trees

That buffs lotus damage

[crimson cave]

I think they said 200?

[fierce light]

Bow Builds

Build 1
-# Credits to Tabbie

• Scattershot Enhance
• Frost Arrows
• Element Surge (Ice-Wielding)
• Depth's Blast
• Successive Ice Blast
• Sub-Zero Seal
  Note:

+1-5 Ice-Wielding recommended

Build 2
-# Credits to JustNae

• Scattershot Enhance
• Toxic Arrows | Frost Arrows | Thunder Arrows
• Element Surge (Poison-Wielding)
• Renewed Vigor
• Backfire
• Desperation

[hidden creek]

do note that you want to take min 1 and max 5 ice wielding on my build tho

[fierce light]

Anyone wanna run the new mission on Nightscream for the quest

[hidden creek]

0 wielding make it unable to proc ice blast
6 wielding make it unable to proc ice blast with just 1 void destroyer

[hard storm]

dats op to run nightscream lol what level do you have to now be?

[fierce light]

75 or higher

[hard storm]

ooof good luck!

[hidden creek]

he cleared it at 69 lol

[hard storm]

(only 51 LOL)

[hidden creek]

i also did

[hard storm]

WOW, congrats!

[hidden creek]

new boss is not that hard once you get used to her moveset

[hard storm]

Massive AOE is like OMG WHERE TO DODGE MUST USE SKILL jk

[fierce light]

Solo allows you to enter it earlier

I think someone said they were able to go in at 64

[hard storm]

wooooah

[hidden creek]

when she's in the air you can just grapple her face continuously to avoid that whole map aoe

[hard storm]

Did not know that, learned something new today

[fierce light]

Lol the bow thing doesn't even need timing

[hidden creek]

ye

as long as you precharge it

my finger hurts tho

🥹

[hard storm]

Is it usable in Nightscream lol?

Just curious on what kind of builds you all find as fun?

[hidden creek]

to be fair when you reached end game contents you're pretty much forced to play meta build

[fierce light]

Lol the Stage 0 skip doesn't even require timing

You just hold it down at any point during the animation and it'll go to it

[stone niche]

thank you and to those for working out these builds ^^

[hidden creek]

erm

1-5 ice wielding recommended

not 6

@fierce light

[fierce light]

Fixed

Yeah you definitely run out of ammo on Trios

[hidden creek]

yeah gonna need field test

to see if craftmanship and no depletion attributes are needed

[fierce light]

Craftmanship helps, I can imagine it being much worse without it

@quaint girder can try what ever

[scenic moth]

What will this season's ice build be like?

[drifting lance]

🎉 | NhympeX leveled up!
| Extra rewards were added for missing levels
ℹ | Level up messages can be disabled for the guild with owo level disabletext

[hidden creek]

it's on pinned

[scenic moth]

Ah okey ı saw

Thank u

[north lynx]

How exactly are you getting into ele surge with poisen, is it just a potential merchant?

I see

It's flat attack

[fierce light]

You aren't, you're just using the free 20% Attack

[north lynx]

20%

Ye I reread it

[fierce light]

I added it to the pins

Bow ironically is probably harder to use on PC

[hidden creek]

well it was fun and all but

real talk tho

i don't think bow could be meta

idk about musket

but yea

[scenic moth]

Which build should we focus on this season? Which one is better?

What u think?

[north lynx]

Focus on ice

[scenic moth]

Still better?

[hidden creek]

yeah

dmg is good

effective on almost all char

[north lynx]

Yeah, they hard nerfed burn and lotus, but ice stuff is still strong. The new stuff is the strongest on ice

[scenic moth]

Then ı just need to change 2 souljade

Just need frostbite chain and elemantal surge

[north lynx]

Why

It seemed to do allot of damage esp of ur doing the trick

[scenic moth]

I think bow have good damage but

Ice is probably very effective

Maybe we need to try and see

[hidden creek]

dunno don't think its dps is that big

[fierce light]

I'm trying it in Trios rn, it's putting in work on the bosses

[north lynx]

I was gonna say

[fierce light]

Even on Temulch

[north lynx]

The numbers tabbie was doing was really high

Just have all your teammates give repair kits

[hidden creek]

🤔

we'll see

well

i'll just pour my resouces on ice surge first

not that i got that much materials lol

[north lynx]

You running any no depletion repair kit stats?

[fierce light]

I have 36% rn

[hidden creek]

with craftmanship?

[fierce light]

But I'm not having to reload more than a single time

Thanks to Craftmanship

So I'm probably going to replace those with Windfall

[hidden creek]

lmfao 65 + 36

[fierce light]

That's Weapon Repair Kit Boon

[hidden creek]

oh

[fierce light]

I took that out of my build

Going to replace Shattered Edge with Element Surge

[hidden creek]

give us trio enigma bow gameplay

[quaint girder]

Which SJ did you sack for Craftsmanship?

[fierce light]

Running __ __

• Toxic Arrows
• Scattershot Enhance
• Renewed Vigor
• Backfire
• Shattered Edge
• Craftmanship
  right now.

[quaint girder]

Got rid of the Toxic Surge I see

[fierce light]

I guess I could've put on Desperation

[quaint girder]

Is it worth the slight DPS loss?

Reset

[fierce light]

No, just the stats on the ones I have are worse than the 2% Attack gain

Next week ima switch Edge for Surge

[quaint girder]

Oko

[fierce light]

That attack is annoying.

Dunno how you're supposed to know if it's going to the edges or not

[north lynx]

Ok so you'll probably still need at least 24% wep repair, + the potential that gives 10% every 5 secs

Assuming your teammates give u their wep kits

In enigma jungler should grab repair kits and deliver when it's optimal to

[fierce light]

@quaint girder you can ult, I'm not running desperation

[north lynx]

So capped 12% on a double windfall jade or something

[quaint girder]

Gotcha

Even without Desperation

That DPS is insane

And actually

Even if I pop Ulti Zero

If I'm premade I'll just use it to spot heal the frontliners

But your DMG is so high you sack yourself to 1 HP and negate the Ziping Regen lol

[fierce light]

Honestly probably won't need to drop Repair Kits

I'm shooting full speed and barely having to reload

Don't think I reloaded that last run Naes actually

[quaint girder]

Xilenced, the damage is insane. We had a fully built Justina and Zippy and the damage from Tessa bow eclipses it

[fierce light]

It was going pretty fast till we started dying

[quaint girder]

And we were doing Windswept NS

[quaint girder]

So when the party fails then it gets messy

Bc Deadeye sniper has no Frontline

[north lynx]

Lol yeah you need reliable Frontline then

W

[quaint girder]

Yeah. And actually what crazy

Zippy V cannot out Regen the backfire self damage

[north lynx]

Did the ranged player in the back make trios desync more bearable?

[fierce light]

Join and see

[quaint girder]

Yeeee

[north lynx]

I'm afk rn unfortunately

[fierce light]

Ah gotcha

[quaint girder]

Rip

[fierce light]

When John gets on, can probably get a true test cause he outdamages my Justina with slightly worse stats

[quaint girder]

Zero I can stay on standby as a body, but I need to do some laundry

[quaint girder]

Oh shit can't wait

[fierce light]

Okay ima go in free training to check out musket

[quaint girder]

If Deadeye is actually viable and Trios comps becomes more like a raid comp that would be crazy

Ggs Zero

Ty for inviting for testing

[fierce light]

I think it's mainly the uptime

But yeah also hits hard

[quaint girder]

I'll send some proto Musket builds to you Zero for consideration

[timid stirrup]

no showdown xp from heroes assemble

[north lynx]

You think miasma drive might be viable with toxic arrows and the toxic accumulation potential?

25% attack for 18 secs no cd

[fierce light]

You'd also need Noxious Blast or Pestilent Pool for it to work

Most of the current jades we have on give +20% Attack on their own

I just realized

Musket's Elemental Jades are supportive

[quaint girder]

@fierce light You can lean into support with Elemental Jades to increase accumulation and Aegis Break shot to reduce Aegis faster

this might be the move for Valda who has insane Aegis break potential

however, that support build would be useless in high level Yama

Musket suppport might be better overall for enigma clearing

[north lynx]

Oh lol toxifed is not the normal poisen accumulation

How did I not know that

I thought toxifed lotus was just devs being dumb

[quaint girder]

yeah it's confusing, Toxified and Poison are separate accumulation

[north lynx]

Damn rip miasma

[quaint girder]

similar to how Bolts and DT are considered different

[fierce light]

Ohhh when you break the weakpoints, that's what staggers them

[quaint girder]

oooooo

But that weakpoint break goes on CD for a while

[fierce light]

Yeah

[quaint girder]

so I guess you cycle between weakpoint breaks then headshot dps

meaning support musket shouldn't take Scarlet Guanyin as they're aiming for breaks and support

while DPS musket should focus on DPS only with headshots

Tabbie's build probably won't work with Musket since we don't have Void Destroyer's insane accumulation with Frost Arrows and Scattershot enhance

[north lynx]

That 1.0 bow trick is OP

Yeah even not statted bow seems to do allot

[fierce light]

I don't think Support Musket is the play

Jeez, yeah you're punished kinda hard for missing a weak point

This might be the mouse and keyboard weapon of choice

[quaint girder]

yep, without multishot from Scatter and the 3 volleys from Void Destroyer

you MUST land the shot perfectly, Musket is the PC's 3PS/FPS players skilled wet dream

[north lynx]

Headshots still do more than weak points no?

[quaint girder]

yes

especially with Scarlet Guanyin

[north lynx]

Y go for weak point

Just headshot

Well ok if the boss doesn't have a cringe headshoy

[fierce light]

Easier to hit, especially from a distance

[north lynx]

Like toad

[quaint girder]

Weakpoint once hit enough, "break" and cause bosses to heavy stagger.

[fierce light]

Weaklpoint does 1.25x, headshot does 1.5x.

[north lynx]

Idk on pc I can aim well I think I go headshot

[quaint girder]

Additionally Weakpoint hits refresh Deadeye if you don't have a clear Headshot

[north lynx]

Yeah weak point is def viable

For situations

But headshot when applicable

[quaint girder]

Especially when boss pulls BS like sand tornados that block your LoS

[north lynx]

Oh I can infinite repair walk

[quaint girder]

But yeah, always be aiming for Headshots when possible to max out DPS

[north lynx]

I can dodge most showdown cringe stuff by literally growing wings lol

Esp with my ranged wep already out

[quaint girder]

Nice

Yeah then Deadeye was made for you

[north lynx]

Bow repair walk kinda weird

[quaint girder]

@fierce light I tried doing thunder, but it's a lil clunky

[north lynx]

But better than musket

[fierce light]

Yeah definitely not playing musket.

The charge up rate for Deadeye is painfully slow

If you lose it, you're pretty much screwed

[quaint girder]

Musket needs additional Deadeye Economy?

So actually needs Blue Tree plus Deadeye accumulation?

[north lynx]

Might invest into the ice trees ranged then

If ur musket

[quaint girder]

Yeah looks like Green and Blue

[north lynx]

Maybe deadeye accumulation stat too

[quaint girder]

Yeah I was thinking the same

[north lynx]

Do you go green blue?

Probably red blue no?

Repair for free better than healing? Like if ur ranged ur so safe right

[quaint girder]

For renewed and Desp

[fierce light]

I think you might even run out of ammo trying to charge Musket's Deadeye

[quaint girder]

Backfire

[north lynx]

Oh yeah

Right right renewed

[quaint girder]

But once you get into Deadeye you have Skyrender's infinite ammo loop

The issue is getting into Deadeye

Does this mean musket needs to sack WF for Deadeye accumulation rate?

[north lynx]

Eh

[fierce light]

That blue node on the potential tree is a lot more valuable for one

[quaint girder]

Yeah it felt like you should take that over red since it helps with staying in infinite ammo deadeye

[fierce light]

Oh yeah red is pointless true

So that covers the potential

17 shots to charge Deadeye. Aiming doesn't increase it faster.

14 headshots to charge Deadeye

[safe seal]

potential xp is same on hard and nightscream or it differs?

[fierce light]

Same, it's just based on the fatigue cost

[safe seal]

okee thank you

[quaint girder]

But the flip side is that if you rapidly flick the fire button and land the headshot every time by leading the target after every Skyrender Reload you output damage a lot faster

Because there's no Windup time and animation unlike Void Destroyer

I also noticed that holding aim and preinputting the fire shoots the shot without actually zooming down the sights and rewards the slow shot bonus

I feel like Musket is the CS:GO/Valorant player's choice when it comes to getting the shooter feel

[balmy coral]

@lone umbra I already dismantled my poison. Just ghastbloom and and element left

[fierce light]

Yeah high risk, high reward

So it does appear the elemental shot jades do help your deadeye charge slightly

[quaint girder]

The accumulation helps?

Hmm

Then we have to balance getting into Deadeye ASAP vs the damage you can put out

[fierce light]

Right now I'm just calculating the Deadeye amounts

[quaint girder]

Gotcha

[fierce light]

Think I'll go back and do it for Bow as well later

[quaint girder]

Zero do you already have the accumulation calculations for the elemental shots?

[fierce light]

Updating my spreadsheet to use more efficient tables

[fierce light]

I don't think I can calculate the bonus for the team solo

[fierce light]

I'll figure that out eventually

[quaint girder]

Damn

Okay I was saying

[fierce light]

I can calculate it for yourself though

[quaint girder]

It would be interesting to see it being a force multiplier. Imagine Ziping and Elemental Shot making you proc Toxin rapidly

Wait. That actually might

Oh shit, Toxic Shot actually accumulates toxin and not poison

Wait

Wait

Can Toxin Shot's accumulation be the gateway for Miasma Drive?!?!

[fair shuttle]

how to increase attribute bonus lvl?

[fierce light]

Toxin is the term for Poison Accumulation. Similar to Frostbite or Thundershock.

[fierce light]

Keep running Nirriti's Ruins. It'll go up the more runs you do.

[fair shuttle]

i did 10 runs and its still 7

[north lynx]

It isn't toxified. Toxified is what you need to apply, which can only be applied by Pestilent pools

Toxin and poisen are the same

Toxifed is not Toxin

Toxic shot does unfortunately not trigger miasma

[quaint girder]

Damn

Okay yeah then my build won't work

Thanks for the info

Lets see what else I can do

[north lynx]

I tried it earlier when I asked lol

Miasma was strictly better

25%

But 25% is not better than sacrificing 2 attack percentages for 1

[quaint girder]

Exactly

[lucid ore]

I'm MnK and I don't think musket is it. sometime you aim perfectly and it will still miss compare to bow

Don't think it's like csgo/val where you move and aim get affected either.

[north lynx]

Idk I think if ur a crazy shot musket might be good

[quaint girder]

Jesus, if you land Headshots on Aegis Break if you don't get any ghost bullets you deal a lot of damage.

With my Desp build it's. 43.5k Damage per shot. Let me see if I can aegis break and time it to land perfect shots to see the theoreticals

[fierce light]

Yeah it does have ghost hits, another reason I'm not going to bother making a Musket build

[north lynx]

That's more of a ping thing tbh

Idk the 1.0 trick on bow

Seems insane

[fierce light]

1.0?

[north lynx]

Like you just keep firing the martial skill over and over

[fierce light]

Oh it's easy

[north lynx]

Yupp!

But strong

[quaint girder]

Okay, yeah so 4 musket shots deal close to 200k damage on Aegis break

[fierce light]

Oh you meant idk like figuratively

[quaint girder]

Granted you don't have any ghost shots and your ping doesn't screw up the aim input before firing

[north lynx]

Yeah not literally

We sure elemental stuff isn't worth on bow? I feel like you trigger so much ele burst with the martial skill

Maybe it's just the poisen potential

[quaint girder]

You lose a lot of DPS if you have any ghost hits

Jesus it's actually pretty bad. Otherwise Musket would have been the skilled sniper weapon

So yeah the biggest mechanical cons I have with Musket is that ghost shots screw up an already difficult weapon to play AND Skyrender's animation slides you forward slightly towards the left

So over time it messes up your static turret gameplay loop

Otherwise on Aegis Break Headshot I hit 43.5k per hit and depending on Ping and FPS I can fit 4 or 5 of those shots.

[north lynx]

@quaint girder noxious blast also applies toxified

[quaint girder]

Additionally, getting into Deadeye is one of the most difficult things to do. They need to increase the base of entering Deadeye tremendously.

[north lynx]

And tbh

If you do the 1.0 trick

[quaint girder]

I tried a build variant of that. I'll try another

[north lynx]

You are procing 6 stacks really often

[quaint girder]

1.0 trick is spamming Martial Skill?

[north lynx]

Yeah. You use the 2.0, then pre hold, then you can do the martial skill at 1.0 everytime

Assuming you don't messup

[quaint girder]

Even with pool, you give up one slot for what could have been a damage souljade because you're taking pool

25% over two 20%s

[north lynx]

Yeah, 15%

Noxious blast is allot tho

Like allot

[quaint girder]

Hmmm

But does it scale off of poison blast damage on substats or is it just raw base damage thats just high

Cause of Noxious Blast scales with Poison Blast Damage then musket might go into an elemental build lmao

[barren mirage]

[north lynx]

Idk. I'd assume poisen

It's raw base is high

But idk if it scales

I'd assume so

Before chain crush it was the highest poisen burst tool

U stack it like 3-4x faster than a normal poisen build with this

[pearl fractal]

For showdown with the spear whats the combo to make it spin? Like with ziping where it just keeps spinning while walking

I keep doing it unintentionally but I want to know how to do it intentionally

[north lynx]

1.5 charge, h after dragonslayer. You can also do it after your skill and ult by pressing h. If you parry you also do it.

H = horizontal

[fierce light]

You have to release her charged attack at the right time and it'll do a Dragonslayer (straight forward jab attack). After that you can spin by repeatedly tapping Horizontal

[north lynx]

If it helps, dragon slayer is the 2nd shine when charging any blue

[pearl fractal]

Im trying to time it right thank you guys so much

[toxic valley]

i know poisons not the best this season but who would be good a good hero to play it with or does it not really matter

[autumn badger]

afaik the best are ppl with a fast chain spammable aegis break to dump stacks via infectious touch (at least for the old build, idk what new ranged shenanegans above ppl are cooking)

eg kurumi

[autumn badger]

idk if this is common knowledge but there is weird janky height over bore stuff going on with musket, where the projectile doesn't travel directly to xhair and instead goes across over distance, which could be fucking with your hits?

[cursive fable]

anyone for trio ruin?

hardest difficulty

[crimson cave]

server?

ah na i see, sorry im at sea

[fierce light]

Wuchen, Kurumi & Matari.

[fierce light]

That's probably it, noticed it when going for headshots up close

[autumn badger]

idk how pronounced it is at range / if it adapts to anticipated target at range - in the training range it shows a red dot hitmarker so you can try and get used to it

[summer ridge]

Going to be lvl 70 soon hehe

[fierce light]

Congrats

[carmine basin]

What happened to poison that makes it weaker this season?

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Téps leveled up!

[fierce light]

Lotus got nerfed by over half.

[autumn badger]

oof

[steep patio]

just watched a video of a guy doing engima in 4min lvl57

[fierce light]

Whoa

[civic hemlock]

can I see it 😄

[steep patio]

lvl58 4:21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5Zn6cFyHAg&t=32s

[quaint girder]

This is the highest hypothetical Musket Build I can come up with

[fierce light]

Nice he has my ice build listed in there

[quaint girder]

which consistently 45k Headshots on Aegis Break which you can fit 4-5 shots in FPS, Ping, and ghost shots depending

which is around a 180k to 225k burst

[mystic gale]

Hi I haven’t played Showdown in a while or much,can anyone help me understand?

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Glitch leveled up!
| Extra rewards were added for missing levels
ℹ | Level up messages can be disabled for the guild with owo level disabletext

[civic hemlock]

yes I found it

[fierce light]

Big buffs, probably helps it has quite a few different modifiers (Attack, DMG Bonus, Headshot Bonus).

Guanyin being a 1.267 multiplier on Headshots

[quaint girder]

Several Issues around Musket:

1.) Getting to Deadeye on Musket takes like 14 shots which is too long before a fight starts, especially with boss fights.
2.) Ghost Shot are shots fired that go nowhere. It could be the built in aim-assist function that automatically leads shots, but in its current state you currently have a good chance of "missing" shots that were centered on a target.
3.) Musket locks you down into place worse than Bow: If you move you lose your Skyrender buffed bullets. If you do hip shots, you lose your Slow Shot bonus damage.
4.) Musket's Skyrender reload animation slides you forward slightly towards your left, edging you closer to your target and skewing your positioning and aim in a bad way. Bow's Void Destroyer slides you back in a straight line from the recoil which is actually beneficial.
5.) Musket builds are extremely limited. Their exclusive Souljades are supportive in nature and are not made for this meta. Elemental Shots increase accumulation, but currently there's no "super soldier" meta that support this. Aegis Break shot will not be able to pierce the very strong Aegis of high Yama's bosses.

[raw magnet]

Hi , you can start with the pinned messages

[quaint girder]

I posted it in suggestions. Hopefully Fugui notices

[fierce light]

Yeah it really seems like Musket going to more so for Nirriti's Ruins. As far as the Deadeye Charge Rate, I am still trying to get more precise numbers but so far:

• Body Shot: 1/17 Deadeye Charge
• Headshot: 1/14 Deadeye Charge
• Counterstrike (Body Shot): 1/6 Deadeye Charge
• Counterstrike (Headshot): 1/5 Deadeye Charge

[quaint girder]

Wait

It's meant to be a counter weapon, but that's a really bad way to implement

Did they seriously shoehorn the damned thing into Thunder counter?

I'm testing

Still too slow

Even with Thunderproof and Shot to lower accumulation, it's not good

24E better not be thinking about hybrid builds because those legitimately suck

[fierce light]

They likely want you to run Thunder Surge

Oh wait

Thunder Charge requires a melee attack, or any weapon attack?

Oh snap

Now that I think about it, Thunder Smash doubles Counterstrike DMG. That would make the Musket's Counterstrike hit harder than Skyrender Shot.

[quaint girder]

Any weapon

[fierce light]

Yeah i could see musket sniping from a distance with Thunder Counters

[fierce light]

Could run Renewed Vigor as well instead of Backfire

[quaint girder]

won't get desperation

which should apply to the DT lightning bolt