#👾┃showdown
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which can be difficult with bosses like Korvine or Manticore
So not as broken as I initially thought
Its just base numbers have increase so she just deals assloads of nonelemental damage right?
Yoto full ultimate does about half the damage of Tarka's 5 stack explosion.
-# 10500% Attack Scaling.
Actually, what about Tianhai/Justina/Zippy?
And her skill too
Yoto still bad
wow its really hard to find the green scorll
Use Tianhai to perma stun in Varja, Justina gets to freely use her ulti fully for the duration
Yoto's Skill can hit harder than Feria's if you teleport when it's close to expiring.
Ziping just pops elementally as much as possible.
I think I'd rather have yoto ult than tianhai
Or maybe Kuwumba with that fat 55% damage increase on Justina
Tianhai can permastun the boss with new Thunder build
Does Yoto Ulti Stun?
It do
The issue is that Yoto and Justina ultis will desync
since Justina can ulti at 50%
So half of Justina's Ultis won't be able to guaruntee all ticks
So the major question
How we feeling about the defuse that raises elemental accumulation by 40%?
Solidification?
Thats my concern with pushing out maximum theoreticals as Justina, she needs someone to permanently stun the boss so she maximizes her ticks
I mean I like it on wuchen but that's about it
Wow Thunder Smash doubles the damage of your Counterstrikes.
wait...VARJA TIANHAI CAN HULK SMASH FOREVER?
Since every counter increases his ulti duration?
Sorta, it's pretty tight
Bro if you get accumulation build that instantly refills during his ulti he can perma stun
You can get a really long duration though
bro that's insane, a skilled Tianhai can actually permastun for Justina
Element surge
Is that gonna lean into new meta? Or just a meme
and if you throw Ziping spamming F both will keep popping accumulation up the arse
It's like the core jade of the new builds and potential lol
How we feeling about the purple that adds MORE % damage on top of the pile
eh, Subzero Seal outdoes it in Ice
not sure about Thunder or Poison though
I have only tried it in poison.
Feels fairly solid on zipin
Think we can cook a semi perma build with Tianhai
if Tianhai and Ziping pair up, monk might actually be goated with Thunder Smash
I mean the current ice lotus with the bell curio (with tick down to 5 awakening) you pretty much perma stun all during his ult by himself if done right
Well last season ice lotus I should say now
Yeah i dont miss this. 150% rewards BTW.
True, but you don't get the extension on the Ultimate
First recast of the new season feels nice 😄
The point is to keep his ulti up for as long as possible while stunning
Using DT build to keep countering to increase ulti uptime
There’s a jade that extends ults now??
No its baked into his ulti
His ulti got extended to 20 seconds and every time he counters he gets 3 seconds added
Yeah he needs to go Thunder for this to work
In addition
Thunder Smash increases counter attack damage by like double or something ridiculous
pair him up with Zippy, he can theoretically be nigh unstoppable
Bro imagine they did that for yueshan 😵
which is why I was theorycrafting so hard, he can enable Justina to guaruntee full ticks on her ulti
would be too strong
Oh for sure
Yueshan's counter stab, his F, and his base damage on his normal swings deal alot as is
New definition of super soldier
adding that in would shift meta to Yueshan super soldier
Lore accurate 🤣
Tianhai's buffs make him a strong tank and CC bot, but his damage output is kinda meh
Even with Thunder Smash
which apparently doubles counter damage
So you're hulk smashing as Tianhai and basically boss doesn't get to play the game
You would get Zippy to keep elemental uptime and then ideally Justina whose ulti scales off of Ice Blast Damage
Yeah new boss doesn’t deserve to play honestly
lul
But the point was Justina scales quite hard off of Ice Blast Damage on her Ulti
Her ulti is spammable since it's a 50% ulti
but issue is that it's a line rectangle AoE that bosses jump out of
If Tianhai can hulk smash them and perma stun for Justina, she has the potential to output a lot of damage
ngl i forgot how bad it can be
i got +630 catch up too 
I actually want this. So I can get that Flux Jade
already got it 
They buffed Tianhai's skill to do damage as well
Iirc it also boosts counterstrike damage
oh dang
So Tianhai goes kinda crazy with Thunder build
actually hulk smash
i forgot to check before i quit, is any of the new meta runes rewards in nirriti hard or in NS?
gotta get my Thunderbuild up for that man
You mean Secret Anima Rings?
noo i mean chill spike, element surge etc
i keep calling jades runes even after all this time

No idea, supposedly they drop from hard according to @amber terrace

which showdown do you guys do for leveling up showdown lvl?
Nirritis 100%
for tessa what element build is recommended?
Meta is in flux now so no specific builds.
But safest universally is Ice
Successive Ice Blast,
Frozen Blast,
Depths Blast,
Element Surge,
Chill Spike,
Frostbite Chain
thanks
Anyone knows if you can get the new souljades from nirriti if you haven't cleared the nightscream mode yet?
Yeah, you always can from there.
Do we know which difficulty gives what?
Thanks 
corresponding to the stages difficulty
so ns nirriti drops everything
Should be able to tell by looking at the special drops in holoroth
The chain ones are limited to Nightscream afaik
read in skill
less that's like 20%
10% is a little less than half of the HP in that picture
thanks bro
gotcha, I guess I either spam Nirritis or clear Nightscream and use a choice jade
Do we know which builds are the best or still not yet
not yet
how much time does it usually take ?
30 days
To get Souljades, is ns nirrit required or is normal fine?
Noice
They drop based on the difficulty. So if a Souljade you want drops only in Nightscream, you'll have to do Nightscream
Thank ya
Why tf would they make an AoE attack that one taps undefusable..?
If you're meant to break the Aegis fast enough, that's going to be hell in Yama's
we really need a counter for the ''chain'' souljades
so we know when to use aegis break
Lol just got the 10% achievement by accident
Mighty counter exhaustion works well for it
the one that increase ur counteratttack dmg but cost ur hp?
also ur pinned build
poison lotus surge
no infectious touch?
🤔
don't u think we gonna kill ourselves
w/o that jade
It's kinda nerfed by Element Surge
But yeah you can run that in place of Miasma Drive
yeah obvi but like
since we gotta take the potential that toxified reduce armor first now
eventually we gonna ended up at 1 hp
True
with no counter/defuse recovery or pot glug glug
I made that one back when I thought element surge prevented you from being poisoned
ah fuck my pestilent pool, noxious blast and infectious touch gave 75% mod lmfao
Rolling in Riches is a Green Codex Scroll possibility. You're tethered to a Tessa Ulti and need to collect coins and tap the Tessa Ulti not to die
ahhhhhhhhh that one
man i never read it
just press and go
Basically get the maximum score then hope it rolls into an upgrade for a Souljade you have
that's not the achievement requirement
Tessa ult version was removed
anyway just fill the bar
Yep
Now you're a ball
That gold focus defuse proof attack is ass
You have to perfect iFrame dodge into another dodge or defuse
Or grapple high to dodge like Manticore's spin attack
"skilled play"
maybe Moka is skilled enough to do that technique consistently and take the top leaderboards
@fierce light do we use lmb or rmb charge on justina
Doesn't Vertical always do more damage?
oh imagine
Horizontal being easier to land and dealing more damage
Is it the same for PvP?
i mean horizontal is wider but vertical can hit enemy on the ground
so eh
but H does more dmg so on bosses just H ig
interesting
that's kind of crazy
Verts are harder to hit, but deal less damage
only perk is that it hits enemies who are knocked down
wut r u planning, cat?
i am sry, what to do now with excess souljades? just convert them all into materials?
we gon go like this
and green tree is kinda useless
but we could go like this
take blazing flame
increase burn dmg from scorching, for soaked we got frost douse so hydroflare is there
but we're not gonna get hp on sj and thus making burn dmg smol
can't afford losing ice blast dmg and attk
not worth it ig
Probably better to go green and counter heal
Poison armor is useless and the uptime on the buff is better for green
wasnt inferno stuff supposed to be wiped?
When Tempered reopens, yes
When Tempered Inferno reopens, the items will disappear from inventory.
so when element surge ends we got an attack boost for 30s
then we quickly build up element to enter surge state again and this buff is still there
element surge last for 25s so theoretically speaking to maintain green tree attk boost we need to re-enter element surge state in 5s after it ran out
Oh wait I forgot the duration is different for different elements
while red tree boost is whole duration of element surge state
but yeah that poison armor is useless
hmm actually
not really
on poison omen stages it might be useful
I was thinking in mind of them being 15s
its so hard to get 4 mod
when we need to replace 4 jades
i keep getting windfalls on my 1st rare rolls
does yueshan need 4 mods? are there any hero that uses ice build without windfall?
is ice still the best? or is it kinda up in the air atm
he does need 4 mods
wdym ice build w/o windfall?
looks like so yeah
Ideally you want your skill to be ready every 4 seconds for Ice Thorns
Poison might not be that bad as I was thinking
Still more single target focused
it's just funny how a penalty actually become a buff for one character
😂
justina be like: ''you guys defuse the freeze?''
Element Surge stats by Element:
whats the jade i should replace sub-zero seal with?
chill spike depth blast or frostbite chain
i cant replace elemental lotus/ghastbloom yet cuz i have mod on those 2 jades
Forget about Lotus jades
actually... he might be onto somethingg here
ya i know but like i said i have good stats on lotus/bloom
Or use your full lotus jade first until u complete this build
That's what I do if I'm gonna run topaz anytime soon
but if ya gonna run nirriti ns it won't matter.
The stack is single target? not accumulated stack?
Yeah

to get the chain and spike jade need do ns
I have to test that out
Toxin Blast still has a decent radius though, you're guaranteed to proc it in one Poison Blast now
fastest way to level currently guys?
Run anything
Poison blast is still hard to proc on a single target no?
If leveling is your utmost priority, then Nirriti's Ruins Normal
Yes, but the extra attacks help
Is it beneficial to replace the lotus jades with the 2 new jades of poison build?
With element surge
I can't test since finding these jades is like whoring for luck
Do you deconstruct your old jades or no?
I do all I don't need
So for example from poison if im switching to ice i should just batch all of them?
Keep your poison, deconstruct excess jades/all u don't need assuming u have a vision of what build u need to work on.
Alright, thank you
I'll have to do the math on them
I will wait til u do.
I'm still trying to justify my poison build shit was expensive
@amber terrace give me frags
Cant wait to have 4367 blue soul jades only to get 3 golds from conversion
Strangely I got 2 mods today
smth I don't come often
meanwhile i can't even get the souljades let alone the rares i need 
Nirriti dropping straight up garbage
gonna need to wait for better stats to start working on these 2 🥹

I wasn't that unlucky
but I'd grab that Frostbite Chain
i got this tho
peak
they really need to change how flux jades work with how rare they are
like let us choose the attribute when imbuing or at least choose the one we don't want
if not then make flux bit less rare
bruh you haven't seen nothing yet
that was before patch
now this is his build
💀
i'm waiting few weeks before i start to craft new build
i wanna see next patch notes first
not gonna need build in nirriti anyways

elemental surge should be no brainer tho
I hate that elixir is of no use rn
Since peak is closed and Inferno is unavailable
it's pretty useless in inferno too
not like you got too many of those lying around anyway
Faster to burn fatigue thou
75 fatigue per run is fast without it too
and you dont save any gold keys in inferno if you use it
Iirc I got like 12 gold jades in one run in Inferno + elixir
mm gold keys are more expensive
Can't run peak with randoms
i don't think anyone does peak with randoms
Could solo tapas 🤷♂️ worse drops but more fatigue
Oh speaking of topaz there's that annoying boss with one shot trick

What the hell is this LOUD Bell rinign when i play With some People my ears are dieying
Don’t for get surprise veinmer
how do i turn this loud "Ring" off
So whats the max level u can get now?
80 i think
Huh im already 50
well higher lv more exp needed
60-75
so still need to wait more for this badge to become red
Yeah they're removing jades as they add them
I'm barely getting any golds from Nightscream man.
what gold jades got removed?
Yuup sounds bout right.
I only got 1 decent drop over 500 fatigue in ns
Ah they didn't remove any golds this time
I'm at 1100, barely anything
This is a much slower grind than Tempered for sure.
Still wish they increased the fatigue cost of the higher ones.
did they increase rewards?
Nope
Ye I miss Inferno already
ranged Justina was fun
Deadeye is weird on console

Having fun running Justina-Ice at least in Ruins
But I can see that getting old, so going to run some Topaz eventually
Probably after I get all the new gold jades.
does anyone has a good build for Justina? 🙄
It's in the pins
You'd usually run anything u have until u get the jades for the build u want..
Check the pins for new jade builds
If u buy the BP u can get 3 starting set of jades.
Otherwise, you'd need to farm them.
wtf ! 
well if you breaks all parts of hundun he take massive damage
valda might got fatal finish too
how long will SHOWDOWN stay in beta version ?
@fierce light what is the new meta and builds this patch?
Suspected builds are in the pins.
What about potential tree is it same or there are changes there too?
My highest damage yet
Green for Thunder, Red for Poison, Blue for Ice, Bow symbols for Ranged.
Is this a good tree build to use for zipping and justina
#👾┃showdown message
What's our fastest showdown level farm atm?
@fierce light hey, how do you level up fast
for showdown level
im at level 30, and i started at 15
Xp rates are pretty much the same for every mission
no he don't have a fatal card i'm just surprise that range cards 
Also can we agree that this ( in-game information ) was incorrect?? and maybe will be incorrect also at the end of this season ??
Last week the information was " The Yama's Abyss Leaderboard will be settled on 2025-06-05 22:00." AND last week was the final week of the season. SO PLEASE DEV TEAM don't keep wrong information inside the game, each season is way to long time to have a mistake like this ruin the peoples effort to get the best leaderboard before 22:00 when the information is wrong and the leaderboard actually get settled when server goes offline for update at 2025-06-06 01:00.
From the test server:
or is just me that dont understand english
that's 2 different ranking reward
Anyone wanna play showdown with me
first one is weekly
so should i just spam nitri ruins hard or what
second one is seasonal
yea u got a 3rd orrr
It's just a matter of what drop pools and time you want to spend.
I just wanna level it up tbh
we can duo f it
Then you could just run Normal then
I’m low lvl tho
If speed is your priority
On jades
gotcha gotcha
its ok u just queue whatever u wanna do
Coming from ranked I thought ping would be at least bearable in pve but it was as worse as possible.
its actually better to have less ping and fps in pve lol
I meant having high ping
Since pve hitboxes are absoluten worse
and no
wot
...
yes
wait u meant fps lol
he said fps lol
i said fps yes
yeah i saw
did u play Inferno? with tarka and tessa?
just wtf do you mean ''in pve having less fps is better''?\
Even in pve if u have fps below 60 it's painful especially in inferno
theres a clip to prove it to you
That would sunk an all time low once tarka and tessa start ulting
lemme find it rq
Lol it's like it's giving me the new golds in order
if u break all parts they just die no?
never seen it happen tbh
why for some reason in the new update when I go against a boss in nittri ruins there is some dinging noise that is extremely loud and i have no clue how to get rid of it my audio settings are like extremly low already the only fix is to play without audio but its not what i want does anyone else have this issue ?
Lmao it's literally giving me the new jades in order from top to bottom in the Narakapedia
Seems weird, probably related to the Deadeye system
Okay it legit just gave me the new jades in order. I wonder if that's planned or something
There's no way
They do?
I got so much dup jades that the new jade were so rare ..
Probably dead eye
its bulleys
deadeye
new feature
cant turn off via sfx
how does it calculate for the mvp lol
Sense Level? This one you just play to level lol
It would consume Blue Jades to upgrade them usually.
But you can convert those to Gold/Purples now instead.
Any Jade recommendation for Justina yet ?
Yeah the new ice build feels really good to play
Single target and multi target.
Just a bit frustrating they made it so hard to defuse the Ice.
50 point for friendly rent
Can't wait to complete mine
I got lucky with the Moderations again, but these Windfalls looking elusive already.
hihi, i have just started showdown because of justina, was wondering if anyone had a good build for her?
Which is the new ice build then?
It's the one in the pins.
Ice Surge, in the pins. It'll be hard to acquire them as a new player, but you can farm Nirriti's Ruins Nightscream for it. That's what I did.
thank you, i think i have a few. i would try to use the auto allocate but it didn't show me these, interesting
hii I've been using the Ice/Lotus + Poison/Build lotus until now, is Ice Surge the way to go now? (using Tessa, Ziping, Kurumi and Justina)
If you have really good stats on your Lotus build you can use it for now. But the later Yama's stages are likely going to be people using the new one.
alright, then to be on the safe side I'll build the new jades by the side, thank youu 
finally, last windfall
Why they ulting on Feria lol
what rare stats do we need?
mod 100 and wind fall?
@fierce light give us the required stats pls
It's the same as the old build
All of it is considered Ice Blast DMG still, so no need for DMG to Bosses. It's still a good placeholder though.
ele blast, attack, wind fall wind fall?
Yeah
enigma topaz trash drop too
x4 [Moderation], x8 [Windfall], x6 Attack, & x6 Ice Blast DMG.
wao
Wow Justina is insane for mobbing.
Just position yourself where at least 2 mobs are in front of you then use her Skill.
Or you use her Ultimate if they're tankier mobs.
Just ran through Miasma Drive so easily
That's the only stage I haven't done yet
But I got all the new ones from Nightscream Nirriti's.
oh they drop there without unlocking?
hm best way to level probs Nirriti's huh
I see a purple. U r lucky. I got 1 crystal nd blue jades
is there a way to disable the deadeye souhnd effect ?
Wow Enigma Topaz ramps up in difficulty quick. Made it to the last boss on Trios, but wow. They really need to fix the defuse window on Freeze as well.
Don't make sense I can defuse Boss attacks just fine, but it's harder to do the self-freeze.
it is different
Dark do you think you NEED to defuse on justina? I feel like it's a benefit to get frozen on her - it resets F and u can F out of the freeze
Is there some other negative effect from the freeze apart from getting frozen lol 😄
If you have Moderation, it's overkill to get frozen
It forces you to use your Skill while Ice Blast is on cooldown, which is bad for the rotation.
both and nirriti
yes
I can't even get lucky with Frostbite chain
All trash
1k fatigue I got like 10 gold jades


I didn't get the new jades till 1400+ fatigue
I got all ice new jades in about 10 runs of NS less than 1k Fatigue
also some poison jades
only 3 jades are remaining now
1 poison and 2 thunder
🛐
Thunderchain doesn't count Lotus Damage as DT damage
Only DT countered bolts count as damage
It's mind boggling how they shoved Lotus into each tree, but Lotus is anti-synergistic to a lot of builds since it takes up space
I'm playing the new Thunderchain in enigma
It's feels very meh
It's DT, counter, DT counter, and keep that chain up as long as possible
And the punishment for missing one DT in the chain feels pretty bad
Because the way Element Surge for Thunder works you need Thunder Charge because you wouldn't be accumulating any DT anyway and it's the only way to pop off Divine Thunders during Surge to pop off your Chain
I think you can even consider removing Thunderproof because although it gets you going faster, the lower accumulation ceiling is worthless when Surge starts
And there's only one DT so the stagger isn't as bad
Honestly, Element Rush might be viable in Thunderbuilds to replace Thunderproof
This may be the way
I thought you could defuse the ice and not get frozen as Justina or they end up changing that?
What are required potentials for Ice build?
Justina's F cooldown resets when Frozen then she can F out of a freeze state
Oh okay so just like everyone else
Why they show videos of her defusing the ice from getting frozen though
Bolt Mastery is better than Element Rush
True
But I still stand that Thunderproof's lower accumulation ceiling isn't needed if playing high accumulation F characters like Yueshan or Matari
Oh wait I read that wrong. She can use her skill to unfreeze?
Yes
Yes, her Skill's cooldown is reset when she freezes and she can use it to break out of the freeze.
Well that’s better than nothing atleast
But yeah Thunder is a bit cooked here still
Lotuses gave Thunder a lot of control back to the player
Thunder now takes skill to manage, basically you don't want to pop surge during hard attack patterns from the boss
But you have to time it so surge goes off as soon as aegis is down then you must land every surge counter and hope Thunderchain pops as well
A lot of times this is very difficult
Definitely a skill issue on my part, but I just don't like how DT is less accessible again
Should take about 2 Charged Attacks to get the Thunder Charge going again if you have to forgo a Thunder Counter.
There's also that Incorporeal that's supposed to allow you to dodge after a parry and do the Counterstrike.
Where was that again? I remember seeing that but I forgot what gives that ability
Thunder potential tree, looks like a counter. Also gives counter heals
Thanks I'll take a look tomorrow when I wake up to see
Cleared, Lv. 69
Nice
Am cooking the DT build. Rares are probably back to full WF
Because the DT Counter game doesn't allow for you to take advantage of refreshed cooldowns
@fierce light
Idk if I can do that on trios tbh lmao
I know about 85% of her moveset, but less time to react.
tbh i hardly played against her
i just need completion
i have choose choice jades
if we can find someone high level we could do it
if your down
i need prob 1 more game to for 72]
What build you using dark?
They should be on
everyone else is like low 60s or not close
@fierce light hi bro
Yeah sounds about right
What would you recommend dropping out of poison for elemental surge?
Whatever is your 6th slot jade (Miasma Drive, Venomous Lotus, Solidification, etc).
Probably venemous
you have no one?
Dang gab was just on
Missing 2 Windfalls now
Probably one of the hardest bosses yet, although she doesn't have any annoying mechanics like Iron Skin on Manticore or going underwater like Omnius Void. She makes you have to avoid attacks in different ways, whether it's running from her, jumping over them, running between her attacks or Defuse-dodge canceling.
how did u play it lvl69?
yeah he just texted me
he said hes playing after this btw
which other hero has really good synergy with ice surge build? Ning and tarka?
Any hero with a strong spammable ability, which makes up most of the cast now.
Exceptions being Kurumi and Wuchen off the top of my head
Oh now it wants to let me defuse the ice
So her one move at 1:22 is there any indication whether the save zone is at the end or right on her?
I’m still using old lotus at 65 and that’s the one move that keeps getting me because it’s pretty much a 1 shot
Usually it's the spot furthest from her, but if she does a leap before it, I believe that's when it'll be in the middle.
Okay I’ll look for that and see if that’s it
That was the only case I remember it reaching the edges.
Also did they actually make her parriable attack gold??
I saw you get a parry off a gold charge
And in br gold charges are mean they can’t be parried or stunned out of so why would they do that here?
I just know that means you can't defuse them.
hey guys
lm liitle confused from end of season should not i get 20 trove boxes choice from abyss if i clean all stages?
I’ve literally been sitting here dodging because you’re not suppose to be able to defuse or parry it 😭
I don't remember parrying anything gold though.
Is scorching surge possibly viable? That multi parry thunder surge looking kinda juicy ngl
Like elemental surge and thunder charge instead of incin and copper(or thunderous lotus and mlc)
Could be, but I recall it saying something about reducing burn damage.
I only have a poisen one
I don't wanna waste ele changers on it without being sure,
Ik it says this in beta
But idk if they added the burn text
One of the other Thunder jades said it
It's very inconsistent.
Of course I use two flux on the new ice jade and get double scorching 🙃🙃🙃
What are you doing after your dash or is that a jade thing?
Tapping Vertical will do a follow-up attack. Does mostly Aegis-DMG.
Hmmm I tried that and horizontal and didn’t do anything
Are you dodging or something right after before doing that input?
The timing is a bit tight
Yeah she seems glitchy still to me
You have to tap it while your dashing
actually lev 65 can reach 6/9 boss if someone kills mobs for me
max dmg i got 80k
aegis down of course
Her move set is so fing wild
Like who thought it was a good idea to give her 3 different gold charge attacks and two of them you can’t dodge every single one unless you’re near the wall to grapple 🙃
Not looking forward to here eerie set
Can you stack afterglow and fury in potential?
I'm confused what you mean
You didn’t get any of them in your run pretty sure
There’s two in her first phase one in her second that I know of
If you get hit once you’re just screwed
Sometimes she'll lift her sword up slowly. If she turns golden you gotta get ready to jump, kinda like that attack on Eerie Aureate in Tempered Inferno.
10 windfall 2 mod
First phase the gold charges sword she has two moves. 1 is 2 walls like pulses she throws out that you can jump over. Other is several vertical Claw like marks where if you don’t get back quick enough you’re going to get hit by a few and can’t jump over. Second phase is the sand wall and summons wolfs which you can jump over and timed correctly miss everything but if you get hit once you’re getting hit by the rest of them.
Atleast if you’re on 60fps idk about pc
Oh the claw marks gotcha
Usually happens following her tornado leap.
So try not to build much distance for it to happen
She does that one up close too
Still trying to figure out the animated differences on the moves so I know whether I need to run back or get ready to jump
So far I’ve noticed this boss isn’t really console friendly and I’m really not excited to see how it is in trios with trio timing
But haven’t been nitpicked yet to see the subtle difference on moves. Probably be a lot easier after that, but definitely a step up which I’m happy about
Her mixups seem more rapid
I still don't get how these new levels scale up. It's so weird compared to before
Yeah I think they changed the Sense Suppression formula as well
U sure? I don't see it on chain or charge text (I'd just use charge and elemental surge
So I can't calculate any actual damage.
I remember seeing it in free training
I'll look
Ye I so I can't particularly identify how far I could go based on dmg and sense like before.
These new levels I feel so detached from it hard to actually solo
Yeah which is why I say she’s not really console friendly and not looking forward to her eerie set
Okay her moveset is definitely different in trios wtf
I can't find it in the thunder jade
And I can't really test cuz free training sucks
Elemental surge is locked to ice there lol
- no rare testing
Have to go to the Elemental Tab
If its anywhere it's new text on elemental surge for thunder
Oh ok I see now
Yeah it is on thunder element Surge
New text
Man how lame imagine if we kept beta text
So it looks like Yoto's Ability is still pretty bad practically
It can hit hard, but it doesn't often work out and can be difficult to manage Moderation with.
20% off burn damage makes it not worth ever right
Cause tls gets double back instantly
Depends if it's a x0.8 multiplier or just 20% off the top.
can i just disenchant the 2 lotus jades
loll dont think it will ever come back to meta soon
Probably. Might be ok on poisen if bell curios come back but for ice you almost certain can
Wouldn't do that till you have at least a decent pair of the new jades.
Just keep it cos a time will come u will need it
Ugh trying to find new rings sucks
No not really. Just focus on one type of rings every run
Ow wait its just the boon lol
I easily maxed out bolt and lotus rings every run
Anyone know the new secret ring?
Last chance
Last Chance
It appears often when running a ranged build.
It’s a skull and crossbones
Crap
How can I get "Moderation" does it work with normal rerolls?
You can get all rares every recast but limited by one
yes
Mmmm, translation? xD "Limited by one"
You can only recast 1 rare every jade.
Recasting a 2nd rare to a jade doesn't work u need flux jade or 2 flux shards.
^
They should modify how recasting a rare too it's scuffed
At least when using a flux
so say I want to put Moderation on a gem all I need to do is go to Souljade Bonus -> Recast screen and select 1 of the attributes and select recast attribute
and pray to rngesus
Recasting a rare is 💯 random
i already spent 100 souljade fragments and havent gotten a single moderation or anything
Sometimes it takes 100 recast and u don't get any 
Tip: u should always recast the lowest valued attribute.
Based on percentage
and shrouded jade adds a 4th attribute slot to gems, right
should I do that first or it doesnt matter
Basically, if you don't see Rare Attribute at the top left when Auto Recasting, then a Rare can't appear through normal Recasts.
Oh this too 
7 hours and 72 games later i got the ice build ;))
how to get flux jade shards or do I need to deconstruct gems with rare attributes
I don’t need to recast
Just missing 1 Windfall and my ice build is done
wait a minute, Element Surge Ice Blasts -> Tarka Ji ultimate fireballs w/ Chill Spikes works?
lets seee on the training ground
Nirriti is just Yama abyss
Yes, but mind the 4s cooldown.
They all give the same ratio, based on fatigue spent
Nirriti's Ruins is the most efficient for boosters though since it has the highest fatigue cost.
does the difficulty matter?
or just spam the easiest difficulty
is Justina Gu Hepta Detach on training bugged? it does like 0 dmg
This is not for dmg, but it heals you
oh it heals you?? o-o
Try it 🙂
any update for ranged build?
yeah i saw, it's decent, could be better but it could be worse 😄
lmb is not her aegis break
rmb is
yeah the healing amount I mean
Guys should not we get from abyss 20x trove box choice if u clean all stages ?
insteand of 20 i got only 10 is that on end season?
What fire forge level did you guys get to for completing nightscream nirriti 18 or lower?
It depends on your luck with anima rings and bosses. I crushed nighscream with only 10/18, got lucky with Element rings and ez bosses.
only Attribute bonus counts, yours is 9/24
by grinding quests like beat 200 battle zones in Nirriti and so on
don't pay too much attention to those requirements like 18 or 24 attribute bonuses
it all comes down to which rings and which bosses do you roll
I can easily beat Omnius Hellscorch without any attribute bonuses even on Legend
while I struggle with Korvine on Nightscream no matter what attributes I have
alright yeah thanks currently sitting at 10/24 and tempted to try it, glad im not the only one who despises korvine
Keep in mind that 1) wild Winemire event which triggers almost every boss fight really helps you 2) on Nightscream bosses still don't have that much hp, if you have enough Element rings, you can do more than half their HP with a single Justina's ult once their Astral Aegis is down
@balmy coral wanna go Nirriti Ruins?
I noticed that your F is almost always available, each time you use it, it triggers Ice blast and goes off cooldown. How do you manage frost accumulation so precisely?
also, how to do the combo F into the immediate projectile like you did on 1:33?
Element surge perhaps
It auto accumulates upon hit
If u have 100% mod that could work
Korvin is the kylin of pve
@fierce light how are you liking justina?
how do I know what souljades to put on which hero
the auto allocate puts staff souljade on justina
I never liked this souljade and crafting equiping stuff in games
haha
Finally completed Ice build
for wuchen change chill spike with element rush or not ice blast build on him?


So, im here for some advice
Justina new ice is crazy
if someone is new to showdown, what element should we teach them?
@fierce light Does the ice build have some kind of back fire?
No
Maybe because u have made up dirty cash ,, now it's your consequences 😔
element? as in?
ice, poison, thunder etc
doesn't really matters tbh
@fierce light were you able to get calculations on new melee ice build vs ILM DMG numbers yet?
Tho must be maybe even impossible for now cause of having to upgrade the stats and potentials to check that?
I'd say since it's the safest element on meta
Just wondering if I should switch to it
Cause I've saved around 2.5k recast materials
But not sure if it's worth it
any new meta
@balmy coral nirrit ruins?
bow thunder
can you show me
show what
the bow thunder build
Difficulty just affects the drop pool. Normal has a lower drop rate of Gold & Purple jades though.
Justina's Skill has double the frost accumulation, so with the boosts from Ice build (Element Surge + Frost Douse), it is enough to proc Ice Blast with just her ability.
Tapping Vertical shortly after using her Skill will do a follow-up attack for decent Aegis DMG.
Very fun, her abilities more than make up for her lackluster weapon.
Let's go
Aww I only have 30 mins left sorry next time
Either look at the recommended -> player favorites, or look at the leaderboard for that hero and see what builds people are running.
Got work
ok
Wuchen would probably be better off with Thunder or Poison.
Pins and check the Ice build
what about ziping or tessa?
That just sounds like you were fighting something higher level than you.
Ya Topaz boss 
is the poison build going to be something like this?
nice
what about the new ice surge build? more fun than old lotus builds?
jesus 32
For them:
- Ice
- Thunder
- Poison (not recommended)
Uh
Yes. You spam your Aegis-Break to keep applying Toxified to enemies for massive explosions.
might just stay with poison again this season
Wait that's the outdated chart
No rotation tests yet, but here's how the different Ice Blast attacks compare:
-# Coefficient being the multiplier on Attack in damage.
Pretty much if you're not spamming your Skill every 4s or so, Ice loses a lot of DPS.
ayo... I never think I will say this but... range is kinda fun
do you have potential for ice/thunder/poison build?
I have yet to test this with the new stack
I got the jades but no more resources ..
Ice build is too good to let go
Probably a good idea. It should be good enough and you have rares on some already
Even better with justina bonus damage
I just want to see the ranged builds that come out
@fierce light do you think switch my elements to poisen on tls would be a decent idea? I'm considering it now that ice provides no value and going thunder messes with accum.
The builds probably dead but it'll last me till I get a new one
It has synergy with soaked in poisen tree and extra accumulation
any new build bro
Well if you have Draco Stride, it shouldn't really matter as long as it's not Thunder-Wielding. You'll still want to go on the Green Path though since it has some nice perks for Thunder Counter.
In the pins, yeah
Ye ye, ofc i have almost everything in green besides ranged and surge stuff. Mines max stated 8 wf 4 scorch, but since before ice was preferred and now provides no value I think switching to poisen is the play
Yk until I put it aside for a fresh build
Ice still has that on heal thing
Feel like extra toxic accum/dmge to boss/soaked beats that
and Element surge was crazy.
Ah that, yeah that'll work. Won't be much of an increase in dmg though.
I can't send photos.
I want to join the event
I want to join
showdown fatigue burn
...
would you recommend ice or thunder
Depends on the hero
Skill issue
Nah but just type a bunch and you can
You need server lvs for pictures
Tianhai, Wuchen & Kurumi prefer Thunder. The rest prefer Ice, but Ice needs higher investment (4x Moderation) to be ideal.
finally i did it
Good stuff!
llvl65
tty<3
In live servers, it reduces burn damage significantly. They explicitly added the text. Tested it and it's pretty bad.
Yeah ik we figured it out
Looks like the level cap this week is 77
any information for the new secret anima ring?
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Last Chance
- Let's you cheat death for 20s, reviving you if you kill an enemy or hit their weakspot while in Deadeye.
- It appears fairly often when running ranged builds.
oh thank you, and what about the new anima ring for each build like elentent, loctus? are they require somebuild to see?
They're just the Boon rings. They count as 3 rings towards the Blessing, but don't do anything else.
Usually will get them while you're at 9/12 of a Blessing
thunder musket on nirriti is fun
oh ok thank you so much :3
I just realized, Frostbite Chain activates Ice Blast even when it's on cooldown. I thought it worked like Bell where it would set it off when it gets off cooldown.
oh so those boom is coming from the codex
They drop lots of em
As long as you have fatigue
hell nah, i didnt get a single on last seaon and thj
the season before
That’s bc I told the devs not to give you any
You were getting greedy
understandable but pls refrain from doing so in the future
You can tell them to send them to dark so he can do more testing


Yes testing purposes
I got a couple this week ngl
Your welcome
I missed fiera shen showdown pass lowkey upset abt that

Not that I missed it it’s that I didnt try for it and the season ended before I was like let me get it
its over
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Why change max att ice?
Y are u recasting a max stat
It wasn’t icing
Brother 🤦♂️

i though it trick to get windfall
Well u tried
-_-

Unfortunately you didn't know the real trick, 100% scorching chance guaranteed
The best and most useful rare
The Jade tricked u
You gotta ask for scorching it’s gives you 3 in a row then you get win or mod
you seem to know
Back to grinding levels painfully until I’m level 80
Lv cap this week is like 77
can give me a hint XD
This season
This update
So 2 days ago
🐿️ anyone want to grind xp with me
I got boosters
Your lvl will carry into the next season
U can’t get xp once ur fatigue is gone?
Nope
What lvl are you rn
65
But I feel you @north lynx I’ve play two game and I already want to play something else










