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fierce light
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Better than it being bad on the 2nd rare

hidden creek
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😭

sleek bronze
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I need more 4 windfall to finish my ice lotus

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Moderation come like 10 times

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Not even scorch

balmy coral
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Is it scorching? I got lucky of getting another mod.

hidden creek
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but i'm at 100% alr

balmy coral
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Oh nice

balmy coral
hidden creek
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lol no

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my poison build got 4 jades with 1 mod 1 windfall, then 1 jade with 1 windfall and 1 jade with 0 rare

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so i need 3 more windfall

balmy coral
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Yuup

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Now that's pain

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I see.

hidden creek
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but this dumbass venomous lotus gave me 3 times scorching and 1 time mod

balmy coral
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I got 2 mods 1 windfall now 1 scorching

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That scorching is on a single rare jade I will do it for last

balmy coral
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Praying I get windfall on my ghastbloom

hidden creek
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399 attk 29.9% dmg to boss

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😭

sleek bronze
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I work hard to get ghastbloom with 2 mod so i can change my ice bonus to poison so i can have 2 mod in both

hidden creek
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oh yeah ice

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should i just

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break my ice build for flux shards

balmy coral
sleek bronze
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Do itt lol

hidden creek
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😂

balmy coral
sleek bronze
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next SS we will have event to farm again

hidden creek
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fokin 24e refuse to increase poison element accumulation

sleek bronze
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So i can start do my poison again

timid stirrup
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My venomous gave 2 scorchings also. So waiting for mod on it. Need 2 mods on it to replace my miasma

balmy coral
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Wait if I get enough resources by next week I will just recast a random jade and deconstruct for flux shard if I get lucky.

hidden creek
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hmm

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i think i'll just break my tscorch

balmy coral
woven ingot
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The question being: if you were doing a tscorch build, would you have the same?

balmy coral
fickle linden
balmy coral
hidden creek
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nah that's my tscorch

balmy coral
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I see.

hidden creek
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i still have tscorch v2 and ilm

balmy coral
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Just recast a random jade and deconstruct if u get a rare

hidden creek
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lol no

balmy coral
balmy coral
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3 streak?

hidden creek
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3 imbues 3 useless rare

balmy coral
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Omg

hidden creek
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before that 4 rerolls 4 useless rare

balmy coral
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I would cry

sleek bronze
balmy coral
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So far I only lost 3x on scorching

hidden creek
hidden creek
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but eh i'm not a showdown dedicated player so whatever

woven ingot
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Lies

balmy coral
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Indeed

sleek bronze
balmy coral
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The tears were real

sleek bronze
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Give me like i can stack my F

hidden creek
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and with 50% chance of getting a red curio on craft, i get 1 red out of 8 crafts

sleek bronze
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So its out rn

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Lol

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Maybe cuz we kill that scorpion and rat everyday

balmy coral
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I got two pending imbue rares

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On my ghastbloom and venomous lotus

sleek bronze
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I hope you get what you want (NO)

hidden creek
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oh yeah i haven't got the flux from 600 matches achievement and from curio crafting milestone

balmy coral
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I love this different kind of grief away from ranked lol

sleek bronze
glacial fable
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Yo

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Whats behind that door ?

balmy coral
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Got this earlier after 5 recasts

glacial fable
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@fierce light

hidden creek
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i mostly play pvp

balmy coral
balmy coral
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But Yama abyss rewards are really good

hidden creek
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yama rewards are easy

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even easier now with trio yama

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i can literally afk and let my guildmates carry me lol

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and yeah i play showdown just for showdown seal season rewards and bp

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so i get skins

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never bothered to aim for leaderboard high ranking

sleek bronze
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Actually leaderboard in SEA is not that hard

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3 mod with 3 windfall can stay in TOP500

fierce light
hidden creek
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top 500 0 rare can achieve lol

sleek bronze
fierce light
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Ice wants all 8

sleek bronze
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Oh

fierce light
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Since majority of its damage is Ice due to the activation rate

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Poison has Toxin Blast (not Poison element) and longer accumulation to boost with DMG to Bosses.

fickle linden
timid stirrup
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I unfortunately have 8wf cuz it was before dark said 8 wasn't needed

fickle linden
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i got like 14 wf before i got 4 mod so i'm good on wfs ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

fierce light
glacial fable
fickle linden
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all good then since i only use poison for mobbing Valda_Thumbsup

glacial fable
fierce light
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So for Tempered 6 would probably be better, but for Peak, 8 would be if you're the mobber.

fierce light
glacial fable
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Ah ok

glacial fable
heavy gulch
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Whats the best way to get SJ fragments ? farm enigma and deconstruct?

fierce light
fierce light
# glacial fable Is it worth it or not?

Hard to say. I don't think it's worth staying there for an extended period at the least. There might be some value in sending your weakest teammate to clear it for the elixir buff though then come back.

round glacier
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Yall use that yellow and blue tree stuff?

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Yellow gathers mobs , no idea what the blue does

next zinc
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555

woven ingot
amber terrace
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has 3 area in there

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respawn when new round

glacial fable
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Does the "damage on boss " attribue also include the damage of poison blast ?

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And if i have my second rare on 1 jade can i reroll that with shards to get a different rare ? or do i have to spend a red crystal again?

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Last question
Does wf also increase mod

north lynx
glacial fable
twin ledge
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I’m actually surprised Tianhai can keep up in dmg wanted to try him lol

fierce light
fierce light
fierce light
thorn narwhal
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@fierce light what about this

fierce light
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Elements scale from it too, it's just that since it's additive, it has a smaller effect on it due to high elemental damage bonuses.

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You can test it in free training with the red node in the potential.

twin ledge
north lynx
fierce light
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Weapon DMG Bonus is fine on Bell since you usually do more of that than Skill DMG even with Moderation. Tarka and Tessa want Skill DMG Bonus on theirs instead though.

twin ledge
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It’s the bell that feria is really good tho

fierce light
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Yeah Feria probably the one exception, but she would want to replace Weapon DMG Bonus instead.

thorn narwhal
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i literally have a curse called 1 extra void

fierce light
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Hopefully the patch makes it a bit more bareable to use

balmy coral
cinder flame
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How can u not die when fighting bosses

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Like I can't block and sometimes can't dodge ;-;

thorn narwhal
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if only @fickle linden isn't stealing everyone's luck

thorn narwhal
cinder flame
thorn narwhal
cinder flame
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:0

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I'll need to try that

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Showdown is scary T^T

thorn narwhal
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the RNG in it is scarier Matari_Laugh
but yes it can be scary at the start

balmy coral
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If u can't defuse just dodge out.

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use ziping as a safety measure/tank for your team.

cinder flame
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Ooo yea u can ay showdown in a party :0

balmy coral
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Quite the bet defusing too.

cinder flame
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It's so satisfying to block aaaa

woeful monolith
north lynx
woeful monolith
untold marsh
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?

north lynx
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Having multiple options doesn't necessarily make it more skillful. More skillful just means it's harder to execute. In hydroflare you could just defuse everything and you'd literally never die. Also right now ice poisen and thunder scorch are all viable.

fierce light
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Right now at least, don't think Thunder Scorch is necessary

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Curios making elements competitive with Thunder Scorch in damage output.

twin ledge
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Depends on the stage tbh

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If it’s a boss with a lot of blues think tarka thunder burn will still be good

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Hoping we don’t need game been funny lately with my parry’s

fierce light
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I don't see us fighting Omnious Void again, so shouldn't be any burst phases to go through.

twin ledge
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Wonder which boss will be on 20 tho

heavy gulch
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whats the best way to gain potential exp?

lone umbra
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nirriti ruins

hallow yew
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and as i know from next season we do not have single souljade level

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but a season level

lone umbra
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i still dont understand that 😔

heavy gulch
hallow yew
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It means free to change ur build

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and maybe more new player try to play showdown mode

heavy gulch
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aighty

sleek bronze
drifting lanceBOT
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🎉 | icccq leveled up!

sleek bronze
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No need to farm lot of sense anymore

fickle linden
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souljades wont have levels anymore

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but yeah instead it's just one level your account has

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no need to level up every single jade anymore

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still need to roll rares into them tho ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

lucid ore
sleek bronze
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Our pain still not sense level lol

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rare attribute is our pain

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Scorch in poison and ice

chrome seal
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@hallow yew do u happen to know anything about the weapon souljades? Like staff jabbing etc, will those be discarded or smth?

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It would be nice if those could be added as a separate 7th jade where you can only put those kind of jades

honest folio
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is this saisonpass the end of Showdown 2,5?

fickle linden
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age of might is soon over ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

honest folio
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will the lotus stuff stay?

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or will i end up with a non build after the reset

hidden creek
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usually when a new season comes, previous season builds are still useable

lone umbra
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I just hope they dont make much changes to ilm and plm

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my plm is quite decent and ilm is decent... need 1 more mod and 1 more windfall

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then gonna max the attr

hidden creek
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i think they'll stick with the lotus path

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just new souljades and potentials so you still need to continue building

sleek bronze
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Lotus just come like 2 month i think theyll stick with that for sure

fierce light
fierce light
fierce light
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Yeah, she had one of the faster activation rates for elements

sleek bronze
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cool animation too

strong kiln
balmy coral
drifting lanceBOT
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🎉 | made up of dirty cash ❀ leveled up!

balmy coral
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Well fuck me

balmy coral
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I don't want it

timid stirrup
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shouldve kept it. then used shrouded jade to unlock 4th stat. then converted the scorching to a max stat or near max stat

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then u would have 2 stats near max and/or max and have a throw away stat to use next set of flux

balmy coral
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nah it's Okay.

fickle linden
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you should unlock 4th stat before starting to hunt rares

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you can get the first rare with shrouded jade

balmy coral
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will aim for single rare first to be safe

fickle linden
fierce light
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Yeah expand it first to see if the last attribute will have a low % or not

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Since you want to convert your lowest attributes to rares

quaint girder
balmy coral
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Can't wait for thursday.

fickle linden
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i wonder if paragon20 will be similar to 15-17

fierce light
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Feels like they're intentionally making it where elements are stronger (multiple enemies & mobs).

glacial fable
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So if i dont like my 2. Rare is there a way to choose what max stat i get instead of the rare?

balmy coral
balmy coral
fierce light
sleek bronze
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What weapon new boss will use lol

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Im save up my showdown coin for it

hidden creek
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feet

fickle linden
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i forgot if new boss had weapon in the picture

hidden creek
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she steps on you

fickle linden
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probably didn't

sleek bronze
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Yeah

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I can only guess

hidden creek
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my guess is on her p2 she turn into a giant white wolf

sleek bronze
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Hope she dont get steel form

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Lol

sleek bronze
fierce light
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They said they noted the feedback in regards to time wasting mechanics like iron form.

sleek bronze
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We already got fire stone water and ice boss

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What else?

hidden creek
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we got them all

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metal, wood, water, fire, earth

sleek bronze
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Thunder also

hidden creek
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well we got all 5 forms of omnius

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ice we got matron

fierce light
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Not fighting Omnious any longer

hidden creek
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yeah

sleek bronze
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Want to know what power new boss will have

hidden creek
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we're done with omnius

sleek bronze
hidden creek
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like temmy

sleek bronze
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Wind with fox thing

hidden creek
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she's a wolf

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not fox

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originally she was a herald's envoy

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from hidden clan

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she brought the mask to wolf king

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temulch's ancestor

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then somehow choose to stay even after wolf king army got defeated

sleek bronze
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Ohh thank

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Wind is good

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Maybe new jade about wind too

hidden creek
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yeah they even showed cyclones on the stage concept art

sleek bronze
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So she can use fan if it is wind

glacial fable
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Hopefully temulch gets a buff after that update 👀

hidden creek
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i think her weapon is a blade/dagger but welp

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she's the one who fought wuchen in his cultivation story

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and she use a blade there

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but we'll see

fierce light
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Curious how they'll spice up the next element

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Maybe really short cooldown and high accumulation, but low multipliers

hidden creek
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skyfire but wind

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nados everywhere

sleek bronze
fierce light
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Skill needs to lose the clunkiness

fickle linden
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ult is terrible too, i can't see anything inside it

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i did para17 with all heroes when trying new curios and temulch was the worst to play

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i hate the jump in F

sleek bronze
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But if rework him should do that to valda too

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Wonder what they will do with justina skill too

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Ult for sure V2 but F

fierce light
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Ultimate is kind of weird, but it gets passed the first half skill animation at least.

hidden creek
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lmfao so omnius is ded bcoz tarka ate him

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😂

glacial fable
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So is it just rng if i like my second rare atribute on a jade if i use a red crystal.
And if its not what i want i just have to spend another red crystal?

hidden creek
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well, yeah

fierce light
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2nd rares are the true hell

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Omg this is huge for Kurumi's Curio

hidden creek
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B17 tarka incoming

sleek bronze
fierce light
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Won't have to hold on to a Void Sunder for when the skill expires

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And you aren't punished for getting interrupted during a Void Sunder

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Probably can start running Poison on her comfortably.

sleek bronze
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Can void sunder everytime now

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Peak

steep wadi
lucid ore
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pog

steep wadi
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New update means fatigue is going to be reset

sleek bronze
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Nahhhh still same day as always

dapper nebula
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Maybe they'll fix the AI in inferno

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I love playing babysitter

lone umbra
dapper nebula
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Great hopefully mantiocore stops screwing around in his little corner

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Or his best friend in wave 6

fickle linden
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yeah after 2 weeks manticore being scaredycat it's starting to get on my nerves

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i dont even care about the goddamn iron skin anymore if manticore could just stop wasting time with that constant backing off

thorn narwhal
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Freaking finally frog_welcome

thorn narwhal
fierce light
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Once the last 6 hits start going, they can't be interrupted, even if Kurumi is staggered.

thorn narwhal
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Aaaa i thought that was related to the issue with extra void thingy when you finish and try to build slash mind it will just detuct the stacks back to 0

lone umbra
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I wonder why they reduced difficulty of inferno

fickle linden
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did they?

thorn narwhal
fierce light
fierce light
thorn narwhal
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would be a shame if they don't make extra prizes for nightscream again as nirriti for a reason to run it

fickle linden
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so the current inferno wil be the nightscream one?

fierce light
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Drop rates are probably going to be worse

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If they're identical then that's kinda dumb. Fatigue going to burn too quick

thorn narwhal
fickle linden
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if it's the same rewards and easy one takes like 3min to clear

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that's gonna be like hour of showdown per week

fierce light
thorn narwhal
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what was the cooldown again

fierce light
fierce light
thorn narwhal
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not really helping that much, that's still 15 secs off ability so mod is still needed

fickle linden
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i doubt fatigue will be reset

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it still says that weekly missions will reset wednesday instead of today/tomorrow

thorn narwhal
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most importantly no more forced pvp quests

fierce light
thorn narwhal
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you still kinda do or am i missing something

fickle linden
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they still didn't remove long wait time in inferno lobby atleast i don't see anything about that

fierce light
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You activate Kurumi's Skill, use a Void Sunder, it'll activate an Elemental Burst, which'll proc Moderation. So your next Skill will already be ready when the duration expires.

thorn narwhal
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no way that's right, so moderation will activate DURING the active skill time, that's gonna be great lol

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that's way better, so don't even need to wait and use a sunder without the 20% buff

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the only missing thing now is an i-frame or a gold focus window

fickle linden
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aren't they removing gold focus from game

fierce light
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Yeah should feel a lot less clunky now

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I didn't realize Kurumi's Skill buffed herself while linked as well till this Curio. But it probably didn't matter before since you couldn't attack.

lone umbra
fickle linden
thorn narwhal
fickle linden
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to make gold focus attacks parryable so making them useless?

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i thought they just remove them then

thorn narwhal
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oh its tonight not tomorrow

lone umbra
balmy coral
lone umbra
fickle linden
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about new leaks and updates

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everything is lost between million posts

balmy coral
lone umbra
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i think it is good change

hidden creek
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it's also not the same with regular parry

fierce light
hidden creek
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the person who got parried won't lose the weapon (ofc), got put in a gold focus status and there's also no parry counter attack

lone umbra
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it is countering kylin in his ult

hidden creek
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so it's just a way to temporary stop their momentum

balmy coral
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Parrying a kylin would be so satisfying

lone umbra
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he can be stopped from causing havoc

lone umbra
hidden creek
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yeah but got parried in V is not as severe as got parried with melee weaps

fickle linden
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oh so it's just nerf to kylin

hidden creek
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it's a whole new system

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for characters like kylin hadi zai etc

balmy coral
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Yes

lone umbra
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yess

balmy coral
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Valda's spear is not parry-able but it's fine.

lone umbra
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it is fne

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dodgable

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kylin is hella fast

hidden creek
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valda spear is not the same, it's an cc

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which you still need to do damages with weapon afterward

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which enemies can still interrupt you

balmy coral
hidden creek
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unlike kylin or hadi on V, you can't do nothing to help an teammate got hit by it

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cuz if you jump in you'll get hit too

balmy coral
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Dude has to aim

balmy coral
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Hadi on yang was annoying

fickle linden
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haven't seen one hadi since last patch

lone umbra
balmy coral
hidden creek
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still see him being used in trios but yeah, rarely

lone umbra
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i dont see him in trios hadi is done for good

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all i see is kylin and zais

balmy coral
fickle linden
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would love to see hadi in showdown

lucid ore
lone umbra
lucid ore
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ty

thorn narwhal
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and for some reason i can't reach that 186k number

fierce light
thorn narwhal
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i'm only missing the 1 attack stat, but don't think its gonna cause a 40k gap, so tempered could make more sense thought they were in yama

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also it's same hit or separate ?

twin ledge
thorn narwhal
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yeah it seems only possible there

fierce light
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Skill DMG Bonus, Attack, & DMG to Bosses should boost it

thorn narwhal
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oh didn't realize his ultimate gives 10% attack boost but his skill also gives 10% attack boost

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also is cool that you can trigger it using Elbow strike, much faster and will help maintain the ult much longer

fierce light
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Usually can get 2 maxed explosions off in one ult

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But yeah his fireballs apply a debuff making the enemies take x1.1 damage

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The ultimate I'm not sure if it's additive or multiplicative

thorn narwhal
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same question every time Matari_Laugh

balmy coral
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In ranked I'm counting frames/ping, in showdown we're counting dmg. The meth never stops lol

fierce light
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Frames still matter in Showdown, but mainly to find what move to spam lol

north lynx
fierce light
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Oh they meant their frame rate, gotcha

amber terrace
thorn narwhal
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oh so that's what tarka's reburn is for, i wonder if they get an insight early spoilers and stuff

lucid ore
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Just wondering, what's everyone's preferred language for voices. I.e when you spam Tessa ult in tempered inferno what do you want to or not to hear

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"and you thought I was just a pretty face" for the xmillions times

balmy coral
north lynx
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At best elixirs are kinda p2w

amber terrace
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same to take valda cui skin

north lynx
balmy coral
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I'd buy if I badly need thou

balmy coral
fierce light
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Have a feeling Elixirs are why they're refusing to rebalance fatigue costs

balmy coral
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Fatigue cost is def a scam. Look at enigma vs tampered fatigue cost.

amber terrace
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skin for takeda look like fool

north lynx
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Which is funny since the only optimal usage of elixirs is gold keys, everything else just is a time save

amber terrace
lucid ore
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first week of new season or events only time I ever complete fatigue

north lynx
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But now I regret not lol

balmy coral
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I will completely use up all fatigue until I finish poison build.

lucid ore
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I've started since pre-season 1

north lynx
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Thank god for luck builds allowing me to catchup in fragments

lucid ore
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sj was very hard to get good stats back then

north lynx
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I played in defuse meta but pretty casually.

amber terrace
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Old Fire become to new fire

lucid ore
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back in the day when temulch was like the best dps

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or matari

amber terrace
balmy coral
lucid ore
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Defuse suck back then lol

amber terrace
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btw that is good background profile

balmy coral
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update will start in 2 and half hours

north lynx
balmy coral
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Luck jades don't work on nirriti no?

north lynx
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They don't

fierce light
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I'm glad they added Luck to Yin Curios and they're mostly Defensive Attributes so you're not trading damage for it

lucid ore
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What amount of Luck do you need for it to matter

north lynx
lucid ore
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9k from peak + yin-yang + 2k? from curio and if you have lucks stuffs honestly don't feel any different

amber terrace
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damm, tarka so handsome

north lynx
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Idk there's some hidden rarity rng system for jades post game that luck increases. They don't show a single indicator on what it gives. I will say that I get triple the golds my teammates get when we compare though, so the number isn't arbitrary. I have friends with like triple windfall on blessed and lucky break who get crazy jades

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I do wish they showed the multiplier though

balmy coral
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and tight

north lynx
formal karma
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who is the best char for nirriti solo?

twin ledge
fierce light
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Passive Rage Recovery by default is ~0.3% per second. So +40% to that is hardly noticeable.

formal karma
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ty

fierce light
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But yeah you'll still have plenty room for a Luck attribute on a Yin Curio.

twin ledge
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Tarka will prob make u complete it faster while ziping is easy mode

fierce light
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This week from Tempered, I barely got any Catch-Up from the Yin-yang Bonus & +1500 Luck from Curio.

formal karma
# twin ledge Tarka and ziping

i tried ziping once and find it harder at bosses, i main yueshan and idk her rotation to deal damage, do i just spam golden spin thing

fierce light
lucid ore
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I like the fact that tempered is 75 fatigue

twin ledge
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Shouldn’t be hard if ur farming hard

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But u should be spamming that

lucid ore
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if you use elixir, it's like 225 per run. Can finish your week in like 11 run is so godly if you have limited time to play

formal karma
fierce light
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Elixir feels like a waste for Tempered. 2nd Fastest Fatigue burner we've had so far, only beat by Suffer No Demon. But still less Loading Screens overall.

formal karma
twin ledge
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Wait are u farming it?

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If ur farming jades and stuff do hard

fierce light
formal karma
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i just need to level up my sense level asap

balmy coral
twin ledge
lucid ore
#

Got lots of other games I can play releasing xD

formal karma
#

so i should just stick to hard, not nightscream until i max myself out probably

balmy coral
#

We counted the time to finish nirriti hard when I was grinding sense and it was like 6 mins or so. The loading screens were a nightmare.

fierce light
#

Unless you're buying Elixirs, then spend them on whatever.

twin ledge
lucid ore
#

This season bp is so long, I just noticed I'm like level 350

fierce light
#

Yeah Nirriti's eats up a lot of time between floors. The time it shows you is usually half the amount.

twin ledge
#

Nightscream is hard prob for everyone because of weird delay in there

balmy coral
formal karma
twin ledge
#

But once u get forge up u will notice it get easy

twin ledge
balmy coral
lucid ore
#

Ziping can easily solo yama and take no dmg now. It's actually crazy

formal karma
#

thanks for all your responses guys, it's a bit hard for me to find any decent info including that im not so good in english names of all the things in the game, and my country has no playerbase

twin ledge
lucid ore
twin ledge
formal karma
#

probably gonna try to make some kind of a google doc for other players after i find everything out and have a good amount of knowledge to make it good

twin ledge
#

So I can move on to something else

north lynx
#

Not a waste with gold keys since its a limited resource

lucid ore
twin ledge
#

If u do the math for peaks gold runs the drops are actually bad

balmy coral
#

Like 42 keys remain

twin ledge
#

I even have the thing where it says I speak Japanese

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So might actually change it back to English soon

north lynx
#

It's extra jades with gold keys, for 30 fatigue, which doubles with elixirs. Bad compared to what it's the single highest drops for jades, objectively. Nothing else beats it

twin ledge
#

Yea I know but all drops don’t add up for the fatigue used

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Just saying that’s why i try farming as fast as possible instead of for drops so do modes with highest fatigue use with elixers

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Plus already have max builds so no need for it

balmy coral
#

and the fact u have no choice but to used up 60% of your fatigue in tampered due to being limited ..

north lynx
#

Ye for you speed running makes sense

twin ledge
#

Well this week i actually didn’t use elixers or last week all the way through

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Will be next week tho

twin ledge
#

Finally they do something good for once tbh

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Crazy he hasn’t got one for so long

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I don’t count the silk one as a extreme because it’s ugly and no kill effect

fierce light
#

Tempered's drops seem identical to Nirriti's Ruins Hard+, so it's not much of a detriment.

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Especially if you were already low on Rune Keys and the fact that Luck doesn't take effect in Nirriti's Ruins.

turbid agate
#

Is the update today?

fierce light
formal karma
#

nirriti i mean

north lynx
north lynx
turbid agate
# fierce light

Ty dark. In confused tho, this isn't the weekly reset for showdown tho, right? That's on Wednesday as usual

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These different update days are super dumb.

fierce light
formal karma
#

thanks much

fierce light
balmy coral
#

How big the update u want to be ah

thorn narwhal
subtle bramble
#

don't the updates reinstall the entire game

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that said i don't remember how much space naraka takes up

thorn narwhal
#

they literally finally just fixed the absurd update size on steam today

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like after years finally

thorn narwhal
subtle bramble
#

imma leave this for after i wake up then Matari_Laugh with my internet speed i will probably fall asleep mid update

thorn narwhal
#

aren't you on steam ? it's fixed there

subtle bramble
#

oh nvm thought the initial screenshot was steam, my brain doesn't function past 2AM

thorn narwhal
#

haha relatable Kurumi_Helpmeout

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it's actually crazy how they kept this going for years, and people were defending them " you can't do anything about big updates it's unity engine blah blah,"
but here we go just proves that developers are just extremely lazy and don't want to fix or add QOL changes for everyone, but yeah sad they haven't fixed this on all platforms yet apparently they are still lazy.

subtle bramble
#

oh wait i just checked the timestamp for the maintenence and it seems we got around 3 and a half hours til it's done, i hope i don't wake up to a brand new 30GB patch to download

balmy coral
thorn narwhal
balmy coral
#

being said that .. after 22 mins

thorn narwhal
# balmy coral

yeah crazy update size, whole game replacement for just 3-5 gb of update worth of content

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hope it's fixed from now on on steam and soon xbox and other ones

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but at least your internet isn't terribly slow, that didn't take that much

fierce light
#

Wonder if Xbox throttles their download speed

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Cause my WuWa finished much faster with a similar update size

balmy coral
thorn narwhal
#

wait are you on xbox pc app, or xbox console

balmy coral
#

xbox pc

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This game is unplayable on console.

thorn narwhal
#

ohh that's odd, don't think i encountered it being slower on the app for pc version

turbid agate
#

Yeah. Xbox, both PC and console download speeds are always slow

thorn narwhal
#

all games or just specific ones ?

balmy coral
#

3 hrs .. I will go sleep

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I just finished my 10 hrs shift

thorn narwhal
#

yeah the maintenance timeout is becoming annoying with every patch

balmy coral
thorn narwhal
#

uhhh that's actually slower than xbox Kurumi_Scary

balmy coral
#

anyways, nini

thorn narwhal
#

16.75 MB Steam, 27 MB Xbox

#

night

turbid agate
#

Steam I get my full 600 mb and like 150 max on xbox

fierce light
thorn narwhal
amber terrace
#

steam = 5GB, xbox = 44GB

lucid ore
# balmy coral

Wait how is it so big, for it was only 5gb which finishes in like 5 mins

#

Oh Xbox

thorn narwhal
#

we been just talking about it guys

#

3h+ game still isn't online bruh

balmy coral
#

Tf they do- they separated tampered into normal and nightscream ..

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Same fatigue

fierce light
#

So newbies have a version they can queue for

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Instead of struggling for 12 minutes to do 5-7 waves

balmy coral
#

I think that's good just pissed off that it wasn't there when I started.

amber terrace
#

no one flex star skin?

balmy coral
amber terrace
#

why me

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not money

balmy coral
echo wasp
#

III. Curio Adjustments

  1. The first two stages of [Void Sunder] strikes no longer deduct [Slash Mind] , I use lost slash mind 1st
fleet aurora
#

how much the tempered inferno nightscrean is harder than the original ?

lone umbra
#

not worth it

amber terrace
lone umbra
#

I could show valda one

#

where 2nd star is red but not that good

elder goblet
#

Need help 9 stars in Doom mode
and Yama abyss platinum 2

balmy coral
#

I imagine how enigma peak scales

amber terrace
#

anyone try new effect curio tarka ji

fleet aurora
#

only fair that anyone can get curios... even if they a lil bad at the beggining but its better than nothing

fierce light
#

Same amount of Chaos Stones? What's the drop rate for Souljades too in-game?

lone umbra
#

normal made easier than what was before

sleek bronze
#

kurumi can void sunder all the time now

lucid ore
#

Any drop different between nightscream and normal?

ivory wharf
#

normal 8/8 at 150 is 8 stones; vs original/new nightscream 5/8 clear is 9 stones at 150

#

dunno about souljades

thorn narwhal
#

bruh now i need to unequip from the bottom too

thorn narwhal
#

ok this is now officially the fastest burning fatigue method, faster than suffer no demon can finish it in ~3 minutes.

  • element accumulation feels faster than even outside of inferno? so i guess its a typo mistake.
  • every boss can just get 1 shot.
  • you can't get tempered essence or extreme curios from the drops.
  • probably if you're really really tight on time and already have the extremes you want this is worth running.
slate swan
#

Fast game Feria_whoa

sleek bronze
#

What do you thing about Takar Curio change @fierce light

signal kite
wispy garnet
lone umbra
echo wasp
fickle linden
#

they added souljade choice gifts and chaos stones as rewards

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also elemental essence choice gifts

south tusk
woven ingot
#

They often do that when they make an event last longer. Or when they see there is too much currency gained compared to what is in the shop.

fickle linden
#

i dont know if they added week to event or what, but it ends 7th

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i thought it would end this week

woven ingot
south tusk
granite marsh
#

Drops are halved in the easy mode it seems, though you can clear it in 3~mins

balmy coral
fickle linden
#

after i've got every curio maxed might just farm easy mode then if fragment/fatigue isn't too bad

hidden creek
#

nah hardest to get is venomous/thunderous/frostbound lotus lol

#

you can't even select them with souljade of choice gift

fickle linden
#

and never will with 2.5 might choice gifts bebu_sadge

balmy coral
hidden creek
#

lucky ig lol

balmy coral
#

I slayed manticore like 20+x and got nothing.

#

I got ghastbloom in tampered iirc

#

Omg

#

My friend got 4x mod now while I keep getting scorching

wispy garnet
hidden creek
#

ns obviously

fierce light
balmy coral
hidden creek
#

nightscream

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which is just on release tempered inferno

subtle bramble
#

i thought it was gonna be more difficult but it seems they made the normal one easier

balmy coral
hidden creek
#

they made old normal nightscream

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and make new normal that is much easier

subtle bramble
#

good choice tbh, the old way was not beginner friendly

hidden creek
#

yeah

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new normal is for newbie

chrome seal
# hidden creek and make new normal that is much easier

How are the drops tho? Better than the harder one? Cause I see the jade drops percentage is lower at 3.75/11.25 instead of 5/15

Probably not the best idea to ask that now cause everyone's fatigue is already maxed out lol

hidden creek
#

it can't drop tempered essence

#

so it's literally just for people who couldn't finish wave 7 ns

chrome seal
hidden creek
#

uhh no i mean ns only drop essence (material to awaken your red curio) if you get pass wave 7, obviously full clear gives you more essences

#

but normal cannot drop essence even if you clear all 8 waves

#

so normal is just for newbies who couldn't get pass wave 7 ns
they gonna farm normal, craft some curio to increase their dmg

#

then when they can clear wave 7 ns they go ns

chrome seal
#

Alright so wave 8 beating in NS only gives more essence(the material for awakening) but other than that, the shards to summon curios is same on lvl7/8 you think?

granite marsh
#

Is it better to drop noxious or miasma for venemous lotus in Tempered Inferno?

hidden creek
#

miasma no doubt

hidden creek
#

anyway if you can 7 waves ns then there's no reason to run normal

chrome seal
#

Got it thx for that

balmy coral
#

I hope they add that u can buy flux with gold/once a month.

#

Or week

north lynx
#

Miasma was debatable even pre venomous

balmy coral
bronze wharf
#

the one i want for showdown character and the one i got

hidden creek
#

i got it Matari_Laugh

sleek bronze
#

Since Yinyang and Kuromi

balmy coral
hidden creek
#

yeah i'm running out of outfit slots

#

🥹

sleek bronze
#

Ohh so u main her??

bronze wharf
balmy coral
sleek bronze
#

Need her TT

bronze wharf
hidden creek
#

not really i just... buy alot of tessa outfits...

sleek bronze
balmy coral
bronze wharf
#

back halo drop is enough for me Pepe_Crying

balmy coral
#

I got like 3 zip skins in one day when cinnamon came out- more than motivaated to play zip

balmy coral
#

brocade has been an ass to me lol

amber terrace
#

lmao

#

new curio tarka ji so good

subtle bramble
hidden creek
#

🥹 can't help it

#

her outfits are all too pretty

bronze wharf
balmy coral
bronze wharf
fierce light
#

Didn't realize she was that big

hidden creek
#

she isn't lol

balmy coral
#

Look at cyra bp skin

hidden creek
#

or is she

amber terrace
fierce light
#

Welp, looks like I'm back to Xbox-only player. Laptop is bricked. May take longer for me to update the guides and stuff too in the meantime.

fickle linden
balmy coral
#

This is science

woven ingot
#

Dark is a cheating Xbox player. He got the X in his nameplate but that’s all 😂

amber terrace
balmy coral
glacial fable
#

Did they change manticore in inferno?

fierce light
#

They're giving Choice Gifts in that event, good time to get those missing Ghastblooms|Venomous Lotuses

fickle linden
#

it only has original 2.5 season souljades

#

venomous lotus came after

#

and whenever they add new jades to game, they will never be in those 2.5 choice gifts

fierce light
#

Oh, weird

#

Still a good time for Ghastblooms. Ima hold on to them personally.

fickle linden
#

yeah still good for ghastblooms and other standard jades if you need them in the future for a new build

bronze wharf
fierce light
#

Kurumi buff is nice.

amber terrace
#

wow

fickle linden
#

great now there is 3 manticores per run

woven ingot
#

And if someone sees a positive AI change I'd be curious to know what. So far I saw no difference, or things being worst than before.

thorn narwhal
# fierce light Kurumi buff is nice.

sadly the other one still not that good, i have no idea what was the point of denying any slash mind stacks til the 2 sunders are fully utilized it isn't like void sunder itself can generate stacks and they wanna prevent it? so no reason for it

drifting lanceBOT
#

🎉 | Mave leveled up!

fierce light
#

2x Void Sunders for 2x Swift Cuts actually does more DPS overall than 1x Void Sunder for 1x Swift Cut.

thorn narwhal
#

yes and you charge 2nd horizontal only once instead of twice, but there's also the element cooldown alignment with 1 swift cut

#

maybe it's more viable for a poison build or an ice without frozen blast

dapper nebula
#

isnt this suppose to be a fix patch

#

then you see manticore on wave 4

#

🤪

#

and i swear the iron skin lasts longer on wave 8

honest folio
#

what are the % on the Curio drops here? i never saw one drop sadly....

#

i rly need a red one but i cant seem to get it

fickle linden
#

no idea but they are low

#

i've spent 4800 fatigue and got 0 red curios as drops

honest folio
#

u crafted your red ones? with 1%?

icy sundial
#

red ones are 50% on level 4

fierce light
#

I've gotten 2 reds from the 1% craft

#

But yeah main way is to reach Crafting Lv. 4 for that 50% chance.

balmy coral
#

I never have crafted red yet nor opened the bell which I need the most.

#

Cri

fierce light
#

Haven't been running Tempered Inferno?

balmy coral
#

I will make up for it tomorrow

fierce light
#

Ah gotcha

#

Well there's a normal version now at least.

balmy coral
fierce light
#

Hoping for a Bell with Elemental Accumulation alongside getting the Flux Jade from 24/28 Season Progress.

north lynx
#

I'll probably try to get better yin curios and a better iron nut

#

Then max the rest

#

60 shards nice

#

I think normal gives less chaos stones

fierce light
#

Got a good bell?

north lynx
#

O yeah

#

You've seen my bell

fierce light
#

Oh nvm

#

I see it

#

Well still I'm going for a good 5-Hit one

#

Since that'll likely be the play for Yama's.

north lynx
#

Probably

honest folio
#

What would be the go to Curios for Zip?
Was planning Bell and Flower thing

honest folio
fickle linden
amber terrace
#

they added 3 items trade

#

btw good, not 4 rares

honest folio
#

@fierce light awesome video you made there about the Curios Valda_heart

woven ingot
#

Was it your voice Dark? Or a synthetised one reading the text you gave it?

quaint girder
#

I hope I have enough days to grind out the rest

fierce light
woven ingot
#

It's an excellent one. The tone is good for the way to talk. And the voice was very natural.

fierce light
#

I wish the pause between sentences was a little shorter, but yeah it does read pretty well.

heavy gulch
#

How do i increase my SJ level ?

fickle linden
balmy coral
#

Fuc ranked

#

The last circle fight is so damn annoying

#

Few hours here we come!

amber terrace
#

@fierce light do u have build for new tarka ji curio?

#

for this curio

fierce light
#

But for now, a Thunder Scorch build with 100% Moderation would be it's best.

amber terrace
fierce light
#

Before it used to set your Elemental Attack to 0. So you'd do 1/7th of the damage.

#

The new description doesn't mention that though, so they may have fixed that.

shrewd basin
#

Reset is about 3pm cst for me right?

balmy coral
#

I can't be bothered to convert hokph_4wow

shrewd basin
#

Me either I’m just gonna assume 3-5pm XD

balmy coral
#

XD

fickle linden
#

4 hours

fierce light
#

Reset time is pinned

fickle linden
#

because it shows wrong time for me

fierce light
#

Yes

fickle linden
#

doesn't work for some reason then hm

hidden creek
#

it works for me

shrewd basin
#

I was right 3pm 😜

fickle linden
cobalt torrent
#

it's 6 hours too early in pinned for me

#

should be

Standard Time

<t:1745607600:t>

Daylight Savings

<t:1745611200:t>

hidden creek
fickle linden
#

but we live in different timezones 😛

hidden creek
#

i'm gmt+7

fickle linden
#

you are just lucky that it's right for you i guess, it doesn't convert anything

hidden creek
#

i mean if so it must be wrong for dark too

#

but it's working for him? so idk

fierce light
cobalt torrent
#

well that one is put straight in code blocks as 3 pm and 4 pm

#

the one in pinned

fierce light
#

Ah gotcha

#

Dunno how that happened.

fickle linden
#

works well now like

fair wyvern
#

whos up and playing?

fickle linden
amber terrace
#

new tarka curio so good

sleek bronze
#

What is the best team to go in enigma trios now since curio come

fickle linden
#

tarka tessa bossing ziping mobbing maybe?

#

i mean curios just make peak even more easy so might just play what you enjoy

sleek bronze
#

Takar > Yue ?

#

I just wonder yue still good or not since he so noob in new mode lol

fickle linden
#

not like he got nerf

#

he is better than before curios

#

so he is good

shrewd basin
#

Tarka with poison go brrrr

#

Been messing around with double solidation

#

Seems decent

fierce light
#

Shouldn't need any extra accumulation if you have moderation and his Curio

shrewd basin
#

I just have 2 mod 2 wf

fiery light
#

With zipinying wha tis th einput for the spear spin like heli copter i cant get it right?

shrewd basin
#

Right click or horizontal

twin ledge
#

At this point

fiery light
#

what is perfect charge?

shrewd basin
#

2.0 charge on spear second tick

#

Or with zip just use you ability the press horizontal

fiery light
#

horizontal =shift?

shrewd basin
#

I’m console brother I don’t know your key layout Foxy_Cry

#

Right click

fiery light
#

i have default key layout xd

fierce light
#

You hold your charged attack until it pings a 2nd time. There's a short window where you can release after that where it'll do a straight dash attack. After that, just tap your Horizontal Attack button.

fiery light
#

okay thanks oyu two ^^

amber terrace
#

noice, lost skill dmg

bold ice
#

think they upped chaos stone droprate?

#

15 stones from ns inferno

amber terrace
#

no

#

it 150%

bold ice
#

oh yeah right

fierce light
#

Still no last Windfall after all this....

amber terrace
#

sad

balmy coral
#

So unlucky eh

fickle linden
#

game recognizes

#

you would be too powerful

queen ether
#

how far into enigma domain do you need to be to get venomous lotus

bold ice
amber terrace
bold ice
#

not for zippy

fickle linden
#

seriously what were they thinking for putting manticore in round 4 too

#

and its manticore 90% of time

shrewd basin
#

He’s in my shit list now

bold ice
#

its a social experiment atp

#

how many "dont play our game" signs are we willing to swallow

shrewd basin
#

Took me out of the fight for a full 20sec

#

Double grab

fickle linden
#

if they want to put manticore every round i dont care just fix his behaviour

shrewd basin
#

Couldn’t even dodge

fickle linden
#

2min just running backwards

uncut juniper
#

2 hour long cutscene just to die

shrewd basin
fierce light
#

These bells are rolling so bad

dapper nebula
#

why spend effort desigining levels with new bosses? just throw em all together and call it a day

tacit nest
#

One round

balmy coral
#

Lol

#

Here we go again

amber terrace
balmy coral
#

3 consecutive manticores

fickle linden
twin ledge
#

Ok manticores needs to be removed from temp if devs don’t want to fix it

fickle linden
#

not even remotely good curio

#

tried both bells and glories

twin ledge
#

Because I’m tired of it spamming meta or changing attacks mid attack animations

fickle linden
#

think im just gonna max iron nut and salvation box next

twin ledge
#

And then the first form of it doesn’t wanna stop spamming the jump attack and keeps going more far away from me

shrewd basin
#

Hell I’d take rock over maticore atm

fickle linden
#

and it's all he does for first 2minutes

balmy coral
balmy coral
#

Then when it goes down it will grab u