👾┃showdown

[thorn narwhal]

@fierce light so regarding of tessa's curio,
1 - supposedly teammates damage increases the ultimate damage too right or is just self damage.
2 - does stacking her ultimate even work or is best to wait for one to finish at a time

[shrewd basin]

WHY DOES THE GAME HATE ME

60 fckn stones for one Fkn bell now I can target craft them

This game man

This any good?

[balmy coral]

It is good

[shrewd basin]

Is there a way to turn down the Particle effects cuz I feel like I’m only getting 20fps and can’t time the dragonslayer hit on spear correctly

It’s fine the first 6 rounds but after that it’s just laggy af

[burnt basin]

i need frined

play Tempered Inferno

[pearl glade]

I'd like to but... Already run out of fatigue

[amber terrace]

damm, i need counter rev replace luck

[safe umbra]

hey how works synergy in yin - yang? i dont get it and how to see what it gives?
to get synergy we just need to get 2 red awaken?

[hidden creek]

yes, 1 red yin and 1 red yang

it boost yours and your team luck

[plucky fog]

which awakening?

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Veranza leveled up!

[plucky fog]

nevermind, its nonstop ult

[north lynx]

There's one that's ok for it

Gives gold keys consistent enough

Personally tho outside of maybe some gold key peak runs, I don't think you do anything but inferno right now

Getting the perfect curio stats will decide leaderboard spots

[hallow yew]

how about mine
dmg to boss 12
elemental 30
charge dmg 9
skill damage 8

[limpid pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-look-the-rock-meme-the-rock-sus-meme-gif-26414001

24E luck buff?

[north lynx]

The highest damage output is pretty much the same. The mobs and bosses all have a set amount of hp, so it's just rng on health value bosses, and healing omens. The end damage value will always be the same, and high damage on 1 player is more of a sign of the other players not putting in equal damage than anything else. Time >>>> damage on a single player. If you wanted to go for highest damage you'd just have to have people sit in a corner whole you solo the instance to get 100% of the health value converted into damage.

And since some characters offer more value in things other than damage (kuromi buffs, wuchen grouping, yueshan single target) and zip always stays ahead due to razor swift and minions, high damage doesn't really mean much in context, the wider the gap the less the other players are doing, within reason of zip and roles.

[woeful monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-confused-look-confused-face-funny-funny-look-gif-4850532509577233362

[north lynx]

Idek if manticore and fire ominous have different max hp values. I think they do but

Who knows

If you get the healing omen you can probably farm to like 70mil, assuming you can somehow solo the instance

With time to spare

Ig tessa with curio should be mentioned as a damage outlier too

[north lynx]

Really good! Just missing attack.

[balmy coral]

Gotta love zip

[lone umbra]

is awekening the summoning 3 fox spirit?

[lone umbra]

i think they get different max hp... even manticore round 7 i feel it have diff hp

[north lynx]

Each round definitely scales up in hp, but I was moreso talking about the rng boss rounds, like round 4, round 8

Where different bosses can spawn in the eerie slots

[lone umbra]

i think hp mostly are same but hell scorch is never stopping guy to land a hit

[north lynx]

Hell scorch is like, the most likely to kill you, but also the best one to get

He's super easy to group

Manticore is pain

[lone umbra]

umm not sure

i find manticore easier than hell scorch

most easier is thunder ominious

[north lynx]

Stoneform just time sinks

Not much you can do about it

[hallow yew]

no ult charge

[lone umbra]

it takes time away but i find hitting hell scorch harder than manticore... hell scorch attacks are never stable

[north lynx]

This is true. He has the most jank ai.

[lone umbra]

pain in manticore is he do back to back 2 ult attacks one from ground and one raining thunder

[lone umbra]

yeh exactly... i prepare for next attack and he like i m changing my target.. bye bye

[lone umbra]

ohh it would be really good if 3 fox spirit one

[hallow yew]

if there is a buff skill damage will be 12🥲

[hallow yew]

i think 3fox spirite is better

[hallow yew]

but in tempered inferno

[lone umbra]

yeah 3 fox is better one can cause havoc

[hallow yew]

this one is better

[lone umbra]

i have 3 fox one giving ton of dmg

need to try the other one though

but stats are not that good and I am maxed fatigue

[lone umbra]

does it ignore the ult charge cooldown? like if you hit skill right after ult it instantly charges?

[plucky fog]

scorch too much swipe

[hallow yew]

if you have 100 moderation

there will be no CD

you can use 3-5 ult at same time

[chrome seal]

With inferno being introduced with 75 fatigue/match, 2400 is now definitely irrelevant. I'm maxing it within 3 days and lots of my friends are. Can it get increased pls

[lone umbra]

i have 100 mod.. gotta build this one

i m missing elemental accumulation on that

[lone umbra]

3 days???? i am already maxed yesterday

[balmy coral]

2.4k fatigue is not enough

Give us more

[balmy coral]

Consumed 2k just to raise my sense and get jades

Not enough for tampered anymore

[chrome seal]

Well
I was at 2.1 yesterday

Rly bad

[north lynx]

Eh, without tempered 2.4k takes allot of time

It's like 8 ruins games a day

[chrome seal]

Even without it I maxed by Monday noon every week

[north lynx]

That's like the majority of the week

I play other game modes and have a life idk

[chrome seal]

Still 2more days left

[north lynx]

I like being able to max fatigue and not waste all my time in naraka

[chrome seal]

Besides, how is that relevant if I'm playing inferno only

[balmy coral]

No not really just a day at most

[north lynx]

No shot

Ur not maxing fatigue without tempered in a day

Maybe when suffer no evil was around

[chrome seal]

Lol lil bro
First off I do have a life I just play pve a lot too
Play other games - I'm one of those ppl who play 1game their entire life
So just give me more fatigue since inferno taking this much

[balmy coral]

Tbh you'd be force to play tampered at one point

[north lynx]

Relax

I'm not saying you don't have a life

[balmy coral]

I'll be forced to play trios again 😭

[north lynx]

I'm saying I personally like my time not in showdown

[chrome seal]

I'm chill
Just saying your answer doesn't help much

[north lynx]

Ok. Ruins is about 8 mins, speed running to 6 mins. Maybe.

8 a day gets you capped fatigue by reset

[chrome seal]

Dude u don't get it
Idc about that
Am playing inferno only
To get a good curio
And the drops in it are very good and high

[north lynx]

Bare min that's over an hour of ruins. Just ruins. This assumes no gold keys, no dooms, no speedrun, no gold key grinding

[chrome seal]

Am talking to a wall xd

[balmy coral]

No I get his point

It just doesn't apply to us who play it for minimum 8 hrs

[chrome seal]

I literally play like 2-3h of inferno a day
That's it
And m already almost maxed in 2 days

U don't get the curio in other mods
And my curios aren't ideal yet
So what do I care for ruins or whichever else

[balmy coral]

I got like 32 keys rn

Can't use it cos no more fatigue

[north lynx]

Me when I am like rank 8 solos, rank 1 on my character, rank 2 and 3 on my char in yamas, 12 rare builds, being told I don't play enough

I'm capped fatigue too

[balmy coral]

We didn't

[chrome seal]

Well
Isn't that annoying

[north lynx]

No lol

[chrome seal]

They literally cocqueblock us from playing

[north lynx]

Because a few weeks ago it took quite a bit of playtime to cap

[chrome seal]

Ok it doesn't annoy it
But why just block ppl from playing their game

[chrome seal]

It did
But now it's irrelevant

[balmy coral]

Play ranked like how the game should be played that's it

Showdown is a side quest

[north lynx]

Ok but curios go away in like a month

[chrome seal]

Which I said in the very first msg to fugui

[balmy coral]

wait really??

No shit

[chrome seal]

Yeah

[north lynx]

Yeah, they'll be back in the later half of the next season but

[balmy coral]

I'm like I had to max my sense so didn't get to play tampered a lot

Ye I'm done

[chrome seal]

But it's good stats boost
And inferno gives better rewards than peak or niritti
And without requiring golden keys

[north lynx]

Curios are temporary. The yin yang bonus will stay, and your curio crafting levels stay

[north lynx]

Well peak with triple gold keys objectively gives more jades if you equalize fatigue (2 and half peak, or 5 peaks vs 2 inferno)

And ruins are crystal farms

[chrome seal]

Can't play peak solo is my argument

[north lynx]

True

[zinc viper]

IS IT GOOD ?

[balmy coral]

Yes got ghastbloom from tampered which was unexpected

[fickle linden]

it's pretty good

[north lynx]

It do be good

[fickle linden]

attack would've been nice on it

[chrome seal]

Besides
Enigma and ruins been there for a while
So they boring af
While inferno at least gives some fresh breath into it

[zinc viper]

I see Ill keep trying

[north lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-nothing-its-very-cool-bateman-american-psycho-gif-22681917

[chrome seal]

Yeah
Just unlucky with not getting the attack

[chrome seal]

Fire

[fickle linden]

also damage to bosses would've been nice on that, since that awakening is better for bossing than mobbing

[chrome seal]

See
You got it
I don't yet

That's why I need/want to farm inferno

But I cant

[zinc viper]

Oh there different Awaken effect

[fickle linden]

every curio has two possible ones

[north lynx]

I think fatigue increase for inferno time alone would be cool

But it being higher when normal time is probably too much

[fickle linden]

we got inferno at the very end of the season this time

next season we'll get it way sooner in the season

it'll be fine

and we will have lvl 4 crafting to start from next season too, which will make everything faster

[hidden creek]

rly?

i forgot how long current season is

is it 90 days?

[fickle linden]

you mean how many days left?

[hidden creek]

no the whole season duration

[balmy coral]

Can u buy the exhilarating elixir?

[fickle linden]

isn't it almost 6 months

[balmy coral]

That shit is good with boosting exp

[hidden creek]

with gold you always can

[balmy coral]

How much?

[fickle linden]

2.5 started in december

and ends in 40days

[hidden creek]

don't rmb

[north lynx]

With money

[balmy coral]

I see.

[north lynx]

It's the only p2w feature in showdown

[balmy coral]

It is good for farming

I had like 20 of it from 2 years no showdown now it's exhausted

[north lynx]

But it's only p2w cause of gold key limitations

Save them for trio peak gold key runs

[balmy coral]

I have a lot of gold key rn

I can't use cos fatigue so high not worth it cos rewards are limited

[north lynx]

Ideally you wanna get 2 other players with gold keys, pop an elixir, then do 3 runs of enigma peak with triple yin yang at 150%.

Best rewards for jades currently

[balmy coral]

Ye I can have 1 friend with that I think she hasn't spent hers

Will take note thanks

[north lynx]

Peak is hard! (Well not really if you know what to do have late game) but it's def end game content

So be careful if you do

[balmy coral]

Next week when reset starts

[north lynx]

I can't wait to use my curios in peak as well

[balmy coral]

Ikrr

[north lynx]

I wanna see what over 25k luck can do

[balmy coral]

I've never been so disappointed in showdown but fatigue

It's a good takeaway from ranked

[north lynx]

I've been playing ranked casually and showdown more comp lately

It somehow is allot more fair, ping and fps aren't absurd advantages in showdown

[balmy coral]

I just played ranked when I came back and before to. Then hop to other games upon reaching asura (guaranteed 10 chest)

[balmy coral]

Yess

[north lynx]

I'll do that on other servers too for extra chests 😅

[balmy coral]

I don't like the idea of ping griefing so ye

[north lynx]

Ye I'm the only one getting ping griefed on this netcode

Trading can't combo for hard to parry fan blues isn't a good trade

But I manage

[balmy coral]

It's like hating yourself atp

I become numb when I see the enemy and myself blinking

200 ms

[round glacier]

What would be the best build for tarka at the moment?

[fleet bear]

Hello, anyone want to guide or help me with Showdown?

[bold ice]

oh wait you're the guy that has a luck build?

[fierce light]

1. Yes it increases the Ultimate's damage, but is unrelated to the Curio.
2. Best to wait it out, cause sometimes it'll bug so the second ultimate has a much shorter duration. Besides, you don't have to hit marked targets to summon Fox Spirits.

[fierce light]

DMG to Bosses and Skill DMG Bonus are good, the rest are useless since Explosive pretty much guarantees an Elemental Burst and Tarka hardly uses Uncharged Attacks.

[fierce light]

• +2000 Luck for yourself.
• +1000 Luck for your teammates.

[fierce light]

Best would be:

• Attack
• DMG to Bosses
• Skill DMG Bonus
• Rage/DMG Dealt

Elemental +30% doesn't help her on Ice build, but it does for Poison. Weapon DMG Bonus is better than Charged DMG as well.

[fierce light]

It's more so that Inferno has the best Time/Fatigue ratio we've had yet. Only thing faster was Suffer No Demon.

Nirriti's Ruins Hard: 6-8 minutes per 45 fatigue.

• ~6.43 fatigue/minute
  Enigma Peak: 8-10 minutes per 30 fatigue.
• ~3.33 fatigue/minute
  Suffer No Demon: 2-3 minutes per 30 fatigue.
• ~12 fatigue/minute
  Tempered Inferno: 8-10 minutes per 75 fatigue.
• ~8.33 fatigue/minute

Nirriti's Ruins being likely to get worse on average if they keep adding more junk rings without getting rid of the old ones (Attack Restraint, Mighty Counter Resonance, Mighty Counter Inner Fire, etc). Big reason I made this post: https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1351984541497036931.

[fierce light]

You got Elemental Accumulation +30% which is really good, but you missed the other 2 universally good stats: Attack & DMG to Bosses. Other than that it's a pretty decent Curio. I'd focus on other ones.

[fierce light]

Gonna be beautiful for Poison.

[fierce light]

Ice Lotus build with his dedicated Curio + Withered Glory.

[balmy coral]

Nirriti is still the best to grind for beginners. If u have some elixir you'll be making the most out of 3 runs.

Even if fatigue hits

[fierce light]

You'd probably get less Fragments overall from using Elixir on Nirriti's.

More Crystals though.

[hollow herald]

How to use Chaos Extract?

[fierce light]

You enhance Curios with it

[tranquil palm]

the god damn omnius rock is getting on my nerves 😡 its getting personal between us...

[hidden creek]

rock is like the easiest boss

[thorn narwhal]

Easiest to annoy you*

We haven't seen him in a while, don't miss him even for a bit

[hidden creek]

i mean he doesn't have mixups, his moves are clear and easy to read, he's not that fast either

[shrewd basin]

_>

[thorn narwhal]

Nah i'd take any boss over him any day anytime, even his normal 1st form is annoying and can do consecutive following karate non stop attacks

[shrewd basin]

We talking about non transforming rock

Then yeah

[thorn narwhal]

Have we seen how his curio plays with max scorching build yet?

[tranquil palm]

well finally, just when i started complaining about it

[amber terrace]

I haven't seen any lotus since equipping this box.

[tranquil palm]

i was stuck here tbh

[thorn narwhal]

I still don't understand what releasing your lotus means, does it mean it will act as it expired and blossom blast will be triggered, altho don't think it's worth replacing lotus impact dmg for that

[tranquil palm]

maybe it gets easier when you have lots of kills over him

[hidden creek]

idk like his moves are so easy to read

prolly bcoz he was one of the boss in enigma domain before and i fought him so many times lol

[shrewd basin]

Ok then do it on an inconsistent 60fps

[hidden creek]

lol that's a different story

[shrewd basin]

welcome to my world XD

[hidden creek]

so what exactly does tarka curio awakening does?

[shrewd basin]

Nuke

[hidden creek]

i mean the red attribute

[shrewd basin]

5 stacks according to dark %21000 damage instance

[hidden creek]

the other one

[shrewd basin]

Useless I think

But summon dark he knows all

[hidden creek]

@fierce light

https://tenor.com/view/cat-spiritus-summon-vintage-fountain-pen-gif-22872604

[shrewd basin]

Nerd XD

[hidden creek]

from what i understand it make it so the explosion dmg scale with element damage bonus but it won't do element accumulate

but i'm not sure if that's what it is

[fierce light]

Blossom Blasts will occur quicker basically at the cost of less uptime on Lotus Impact.

There's still a hard cap of 4 Lotus per second though, so it's kinda pointless aside from using them before you go out of combat.

[fierce light]

It makes the Explosive effect considered an Elemental Burst, so you can activate Moderation with it. However, it treats you as if you're on +0 Element-Wielding, so you can't accumulate Elements normally and Elemental DMG is reduced to 1/7th of the value. Furthermore, it doesn't scale with Elemental DMG Bonuses. Basically this is only viable on a Thunder Scorch build with Moderation in it.

[lone umbra]

💀 not the bigger one with grabs... Can't predict the grabs... Not to mention on ping >85 ms

[hidden creek]

so it's useless then

[lone umbra]

I could only chain defuse with wuchen on that ping else all are rng

[hidden creek]

i can react to it lol

seeing his claws turn yello i just defuse/dodge

[lone umbra]

Ping diff maybe

[lone umbra]

What ping you get ?

[hidden creek]

40-45

[lone umbra]

Then it is reachable i guess

For me I miss the yellow claw frames most times

[hidden creek]

though idk why on trio i always experience desync

even with good ping

so my defuse/parry never works

😂

[lone umbra]

That is another story

Worst is hell scorch

Dude changjng target every attack

[fierce light]

Your teammate's ping can affect your latency as well.

So say you play with someone from SEA server on NA, while your from NA on 50ms. It'll be like playing on 110ms.

[hidden creek]

yeah that's the only explanation

doesn't help though

cuz my parries and defuses will still miss despite knowing that

😂

[shrewd basin]

Could it get any worse¿

[amber terrace]

how about 4 rare att

[fierce light]

You got Luck and Counter Recovery. I'd say that's pretty good.

[south tusk]

and my Tessa love purple

[viscid wraith]

Soooo... is summon extra fox better than rage recovery? Does it ignore the rage ban recovery for Tessa?

[hidden creek]

it must be, because the extra rage comes from the fox spirits and you can only summon fox spirits when V is active so

if it doesn't it makes no sense

4 foxes is better on single target, extra rage is better when there's lots of mobs ig

[balmy coral]

I'm finna cry

[fierce light]

Fox Rage has more Aegis DPS and consistent Health DPS, handy for general use.
4 Foxes is more bursty in its DPS, handy for when you want to burst certain targets down.

I'd keep one of both tbh as they both are pretty viable.

[fierce light]

Going for Ghastbloom?

[balmy coral]

Ye helping my friend get ghastbloom in manticore nightscream.

[balmy coral]

Any stage with more luck to get ghastbloom?

I think topaz is better

[fierce light]

Enigma Topaz can't drop it.

[fickle linden]

1. kill NS manticore
2. buy choice gift from showdown store
3. choose ghastbloom

that's how i would do it if i was starting out now

it's too painful to farm it if there is no DnS event where it's in rewards

[fierce light]

61 Total Legendary Souljades in-game right now.

• Enigma Peak and Nirriti's Ruins have 1/61 chance to drop Ghastbloom when you get a Legendary Souljade.
• Manticore Hunt has 1/14 chance to drop Ghastbloom when you get a Legendary Souljade.

[balmy coral]

wait u can?

[balmy coral]

manticore is trash

[balmy coral]

This is really helpful tysm guys u are awesome

[lone umbra]

woahh sub 7

[twin ledge]

Which characters

[lone umbra]

kurumi/zip/tessa

[balmy coral]

Guys quick can u give me a quick thunderset ?

@fierce light

[fickle linden]

every meta build is in dark's guide

[balmy coral]

Thanks

Found it

[north lynx]

@fierce light if you had to rank all the viable inferno characters, where you would place them?

[twin ledge]

ah ok

[twin ledge]

So who was who tho

[fierce light]

Wonder what the people who don't unlock Fiery Lotus Bell this season are going to have to do next season for farming Tempered Inferno.

[lone umbra]

from top to bottom - kurumu -> zip -> tessa.. I was tessa

[twin ledge]

Ah ok

So ziping was using grouping while kurumi and Tessa worried about doing dmg

[fickle linden]

use the random crafting, it's possible still from it right?

in next season

or do one of those special rerun events

[fierce light]

They'd have to do the rerun event

Random Craft only for the current Season's Curios.

[lone umbra]

kinda

[shrewd basin]

Bruh this fatigue cap really to low for this mode especially with elixirs

Basically 100 per run

Only 24 matches

[lone umbra]

yeah they should increase fatigue cap

[shrewd basin]

Or honestly make it a daily cap not a weekly lower it to 1500 and have 3 separate tiers per 500 spent

[north lynx]

I think elixirs are kinda waste here, unless u buy them often

[fickle linden]

save elixir for peak

so you don't have to use so many gold keys

[shrewd basin]

I just happen to have a few on hand

[fickle linden]

it's easy to reach 2400 fatigue in new mode anywayu

bruh 132 gold keys. gimme

[woven ingot]

Elixir on that mode is a waste.

Unless you got infinite money irl, and only 2-3 hours to play during your week.

[river stratus]

finally we can max fatigue fast

[shrewd basin]

Don’t have infinite money but yeah I can only play a couple hours on work days

[twin ledge]

Yea 2400 is def not enough with new mode

[twin ledge]

Yea but now it’s not enough

[river stratus]

more fatigue would mean more time needed to complete it, imo now 75 x stage is perfect

with 2400 cap

[twin ledge]

Legit last week didn’t use any elixers and maxed within 4 hours

Faster than I’ve ever done on the other event with elixers all the way through

[timid ivy]

I just typed a long message asking for help and it blocked it. Can we not put @ everyone or something?

[shrewd basin]

Correct

Only staff and mods have access to @ e

[timid ivy]

It wouldn't let me copy it either so now I have to remember everything I said 😭

[shrewd basin]

Screenshot it

[timid ivy]

I hit dismiss on the flag and it deleted the whole thing 😭 i dont use discord very often but I really need help...

[balmy coral]

Recasting my friend's jades got me this

And yet on my account I got scorching

[shrewd basin]

With what might I ask

We have a lot of knowledgeable people here

[twin ledge]

I would stop tbh ur giving ur friend ur luck

[balmy coral]

[timid ivy]

Improving in showdown. Give me a sec I'll retype what I remember saying

[shrewd basin]

Deconstruct it

[balmy coral]

That's evil HAHAHAHA

[twin ledge]

Lmao

[twin ledge]

GET UR LUCK BACK!!

[shrewd basin]

Just say you got scorching XD

[balmy coral]

I can't do any crime I'm streaming

[shrewd basin]

I’ll do it XD

[timid ivy]

So ive been playing showdown a lot more the last few months. But I still am failing to do as well as others. I watched a guy on YouTube fly thru one of the paragon stages. When I looked my attack was almost the same as his and my damage to boss was double and has gone up even more since I enhanced some things and with the curios. But I still fail to do as much damage as other people ive seen. Ive been in the top 10 for speed runs but I can't get anywhere near as quick as the people getting them in under 2 minutes. I'm not sure if my builds are off or not the right combo of souljades but its frustrating to keep building on things and nothing gets me even close to the level I want to be at

Sorry its so long but I really need help 😭

[twin ledge]

I won’t lie dmg to boss stat isn’t the best anymore

Legit attack is one best and if ur using any of the elements u want that dmg

And then it’s double rares on the rest so that’s pretty much why everyone is doing such fast times

[shrewd basin]

Are you max sense level and potential level, have appropriate rares on your build, have near max values on attributes all these can improve performance

[timid ivy]

Attack/charged attack, damage to boss, and damage to astral aegis is what most of my jades have. 4 of the 6 have 1 rare and almost all attributes are near max

[shrewd basin]

Get rid of charged attack and astral change those to rares if you can windfall or mod

[timid ivy]

Ive noticed every time I look at someone's jades they have double rares but I dont have enough red stones to get all that and ive only gotten 1 out of the 100s of recasts ive done. Didn't even know they were a thing until a few weeks ago

[shrewd basin]

It’s…… a process to get double rares

Wish it was easier

[fierce light]

It's a waste to use Elixirs in this tbh. One of the fastest times we can burn fatigue, no point trying to burn it faster.

[timid ivy]

Thought about just waiting until the new season to start from scratch but its still 40 days left that's a long wait

[twin ledge]

We have strays to get flux jades

We recast random jades till a rare appears and get rid of it

[shrewd basin]

In this instance then just farm and deconstruct jade for next season

[timid ivy]

I held on to multiple #1 spots in heralds trial so that was my main focus for a while but I'm trying to get more into showdown but... so disheartening to build up and still not be as good

[twin ledge]

Since I already have every max with the rares I want I legit able to get 4 to 3 flux weekly maybe more but haven’t been doing it lately tho

Cause been changing hp on my thunder burn into divine cause im sharing 3 of the jades on there for thunder lotus

[whole minnow]

Is this awaken skill any good? I’ve been trying to build around it but I can’t seem to get anything to work.

[timid ivy]

Speaking of i have been running poison build for a while but wanted to make a thunder and ice as well. But ive used multiple souljades and nothing gives me thunder lotuses. What jades should I be using

[shrewd basin]

Really only good on TSL

[shrewd basin]

You have to change your potential tree into thunder for that

Same for ice

[whole minnow]

Ah, gotcha. Thanks

[shrewd basin]

What jades

You’ll want thunder lotus Ghastbloom Great lotus counter thunderpull and I don’t remember the others

[timid ivy]

I just did these today so haven't maxed the sense level on them yet

I switched elemental lotus to thunderous lotus

[shrewd basin]

Once I build this out this is what I’ll run for TL

[twin ledge]

I would go for ice lotus tbh

either this or the 2nd one for ice doesnt matter tbh

[twin ledge]

But the rest of builds u can find in the pinned part zero posts everything even has a guide

And I don’t think that thunder build u have atm is gonna really do much with mighty lotus counter

[north lynx]

Thunder mastery is a jade for thunderbolts. Divine thunder and thunderbolts are 2 entirely seperate things that have no relation

[fierce light]

DMG to Bosses is a placeholder stat (except for Poison builds) atm on Souljades. DMG to Astral Aegis is even worse since there's few attacks that scale well with it. Elemental DMG (the element depending on your build) is the main thing you want as nothing else scales quite as high as it.

If you don't have any rares, then you'd want the following on your jades:

• Elemental DMG
• Attack
• DMG to Bosses
• Melee Weapon DMG

These are sorted in the order of their importance, but the order on the actual jade doesn't matter.

[fierce light]

Only build it could be viable for is a Thunder Scorch | Thunder Lotus Scorch build with [Moderation] attributes.

[twin ledge]

nah it use to be used of thunder burn so was decent with mobs like a seaosn ago

[twin ledge]

i dont remember if it needed bolt jades tho

[fierce light]

You need Mighty Lotus Counter. Without it, you'll have no method to generate Lotus and therefore no way to activate Ghastbloom.

[timid ivy]

I now have all of that except thunderproof

[timid ivy]

I have poison blast dmg bonus on 3 of my 6. Is that the emenetal dmg or is that a different attribute

[fierce light]

Yeah that's the Elemental DMG.

[timid ivy]

Feel like ive waisted so much pouring into all the damage to boss ones I did. But I'm gonna farm and deconstruct as much as possible

[north lynx]

We've all been there dw

[fierce light]

Elements make up around 1/3rd of your damage at base, the crazy scaling of the Elemental DMG attributes can bring that up even higher. Scaling even higher against multiple enemies, so it's especially important.

[timid ivy]

I'll be taking all this advice into account and checking out the pinned ones too. Tweak things now so next season I can really build properly. I appreciate yall really

[balmy coral]

Is frozen blast better than sub zero?

[twin ledge]

Huh

[thorn narwhal]

they are unrelated, its frostbound lotus that can replace subzero

[balmy coral]

Nvm

[balmy coral]

Wait really

[twin ledge]

Sub is actually better on certain levels and stages

[balmy coral]

Okee

[thorn narwhal]

yes they both purpose the same role providing self ice bite for tundra to be active

[shrewd basin]

Some one tell me how a bare fist slap does 2k to maticore XD

[thorn narwhal]

yeah they are both very close, haven't tried frostbout myself to see if there will be any much difference

[twin ledge]

Only 2.5% I think in dmg difference

[thorn narwhal]

people are sucking for each 1% of extra dmg you can squeeze out, so i can understand why they switched to it

[granite marsh]

Man the bell curio effect throws me off so much, most times I never notice the elemental burst and burn a skill

Also is it a big difference between 20% Ele build up compared to 30%?

[thorn narwhal]

yeah the bell effect is very hard to notice

[thorn narwhal]

probably on some characters there would be a slight difference, but dark has the numbers he can confirm

[fierce light]

Not really, your Lotus Impacts can probably make up the difference.

However, for attacks that already needed Lotus Impacts to make it up, it can be a bit awkward, like Feria's Skill for example.

[balmy coral]

My luck hasn't run out yet

[signal kite]

Damn

[granite marsh]

is this the comparison between the 20% and 30% accumulation?

[fierce light]

+0% vs +30%. If it mentions (+Lotus Impacts) on the row with Bonus Accumulation, then +20% may make it not work/have a longer delay.

[thorn narwhal]

hmm i think for tessa extra accumulation is not recommended at all

i have these and they didn't close the gap or shorten the rotation by something that is worth

[fickle linden]

you are right, i went to check the patch notes again and it didn't say anything about getting them with random crafting later on. i don't know where i pulled that from

[fierce light]

Yeah the chart above points that out.

[thorn narwhal]

yep thought it could improve with the stats above

bro, i wasn't even trying.. and when i try i barely get 30 million

[fierce light]

40 million+ is hard carry tbh

[shrewd basin]

Love that I’m doing 10x the damage as some of these randoms

They really should have a better restriction to do this like clear yamas up to paragon that way we know they atleast know how to play

[fierce light]

That was the one thing I missed about Yama's being solo-only. Can't be carried to your rank

[signal kite]

7/8 totally not seeing:3

U played Tessa with poison?

Everyone with high dps using her assuming so did you

[fierce light]

@past solstice 0:04 & 0:10
-# Elite mobs have the same elemental resistance as bosses.

[past solstice]

whole gameplay gonna be like that?

[thorn narwhal]

ice

[signal kite]

Tessa ice whoa

[thorn narwhal]

yea tessa is just broken apparently in that mode

[fierce light]

It's an alternative. Won't have to do any charging.

[thorn narwhal]

but don't ask me how i got it, because i don't know and next match i tried and barely got 28m but was with a better team, so maybe team and luck is a big factor xd

[past solstice]

hmm

[signal kite]

No worries i totally understand you,,, been there done that

[thorn narwhal]

[lucid ore]

That's a lot of DMG to only beat 7 rounds

[fickle linden]

there is that omen that heals bosses, or elites can't remember which way it went

anyway that's probably how the dmg numbers are so big with only 7 rounds done

[lucid ore]

I see

[fickle linden]

aegis break skills on boss heals elites or vice versa or something similar to that

and if dmg is low in team must've done it alot

[lucid ore]

I've been using kurumi, she's so good now. Though using her require a bit of timings to reset skills

Kinda weird design

Kurumi and zip can duo this mode

[fickle linden]

her new animation so cool

[lucid ore]

Any other good combo to duo?

[fickle linden]

[fierce light]

Probably Ziping and Tessa

[round glacier]

Wuchen poison is decent

With enough mobs dudes ultimate can be up all the time lol

Shame people dont know you can turn off ziping ultimate to preserve and get it up more quickly

[idle swan]

Ok thank you very much for the response and info!!! Cheers

[fierce light]

Think you get less duration overall from doing that due to the initial 40 cost.

[fierce light]

Yeah he just lacks any super high DPS options and since Aegis-Break Skills have little accumulation value, he takes a while to proc elements too.

[north lynx]

Wuchen always gets out damaged. But his grouping is the best, and grouping mobs with boss is super good

[round glacier]

I just use it to heal team or do that spinning attack lol

Pop it into spin attack and stop the skill

Get everyone to full health asap

Takes a short period till you can activate it again

[fierce light]

It gives you +100% and your team +20% Elemental DMG.

[round glacier]

Ow lol

On activation right or during the active period?

[north lynx]

During the entire active period

U should p much be ulting whenever possible, turning it off manually only when there's a few trash mobs left or in breaks

[round glacier]

My bad to the randoms lol

Could have gotten more dps

[north lynx]

If you can time it during your teammates big elemental attacks vs a boss that's the best, but generally just ulting when u can is fine.

[round glacier]

Aight gonna do that

[north lynx]

I'll sometimes turn it off at like 30% when I'm about to spin on mobs, since I'll get 100% out of it

And it'll be more overall

Turning on and off def has uses if you do it at correct tines

[round glacier]

Yeah i use it mostly when teammates lose s chunk of health

Ill change to also account for dps

[fierce light]

Yeah you get it back pretty fast in Tempered anyway due to the sheer amount of enemies you hit.

Main thing is making sure to keep her Skill active so your team won't be interrupted by mobs.

[heavy gulch]

Whats the best stage to farm soul jades?

[fierce light]

Enigma Domain.

[heavy gulch]

Does trios yield more rewards?

[fierce light]

In terms of quantity, no. Quality can be improved though with more Gold Keys being used.

and Yin-Yang synergy.

[heavy gulch]

i see

Anyone farming Soul jades ?

[balmy coral]

Fucing scammed

[fickle linden]

don't use flux jades before 1st rare is the right one

[fierce light]

Yikes why'd you go for a second while you have Scorching

[balmy coral]

Is it bad?

[fierce light]

Unlikely, cause of the current Curio mode. But can try in #🐲┃showdown-lfg

[fierce light]

Flux Jades are equivalent to 2 rares. You can fix a single rare by recasting it.

[balmy coral]

wait really?

[fierce light]

Could've recasted that first Scorching +2 until either a maxed attribute appeared or a different rare attribute appeared.

[balmy coral]

I see

[balmy coral]

Now all I have to do is recast it until mod comes out?

Or replace it as a whole

[thorn narwhal]

you can't get another rare if you accepted 2nd rare, rares only appear if there's only 0 or 1 rare in the souljade

[balmy coral]

Then that ghastbloom is doomed right?

Holy

[thorn narwhal]

yeah is recommended not to go for rares unless the jade sub stats are already good (max - close to max)

you can just turn that 2nd rare into a max sub stat, then recast the 1st rare till another rare that you want appears

or you can turn both of the rares into max stat and recast poison blast to a rare since its the lowest % and it will be a while to get a 2nd rare again

so you will have 3 max stats and 1 good rare

[fierce light]

I'd probably replace that and deconstruct it for the Flux Shards back, but only if you have another one you can work on already Nvm

[balmy coral]

I have another ghastbloom but I don't have any more resources to recast

[fierce light]

Or keep it and convert one of those [Scorching]'s into a max stat, then work on the other one into [Moderation].

Then you'll have two max stats.

[balmy coral]

I will have to wait til next week and put all effort into inferno

[fiery light]

Does this Shortcut to the Bosses Count as Multiple Zones for the Season Quest/Fire Forge?

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Darklys / [EU] leveled up!

[fierce light]

Just realized you have a maxed stat on it. So you just need one more then can focus on rares for it.

[fierce light]

I doubt it. It was added after the Season Challenges though so not sure.

[fiery light]

Thanks i will need to try it then 😦

[balmy coral]

You mean I need to max this? and then?

Recast it into another rare?

[fiery light]

Then with a Choice Rerole recast to another one

it will then be max level

(the new one)

[fierce light]

Don't do any Value Recasts. When you Attribute Recast off of a Rare Attribute, the resulting will have a random value.

[rich basin]

Hi! is there any place to learn more about showdown and how the jades and potential work etc? thanks!

[balmy coral]

I see thanks.

[balmy coral]

But the rare wouldn't be another scorching right?

[fiery light]

Yes

[balmy coral]

Okee I got it

[bronze wharf]

Windfall
Moderation
Scorching

[lyric roost]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dance-dancing-i-feel-good-cat-meme-gif-3021637689815239984

[heavy gulch]

How do you get frostbound lotus?

[fickle linden]

enigma domain

[heavy gulch]

ty

[steep wadi]

https://dark-zer0.github.io/Showdown/

[timid stirrup]

pretty sure manticore ns drops it also.

[hearty carbon]

can any character use any meta build or are there optimal builds for each character?

[fierce light]

Ice Lotus is usually best in most situations cause of its activation rate. Against groups of (tanky) enemies though Poison Lotus pulls ahead. Thunder Lotus is a bit iffy atm.

[hearty carbon]

bet, tyy

[woven musk]

does topaz give the same amount of jades when deafting 3 vs 5 bosses?

[fierce light]

No, should be slightly more although it's most efficient on fatigue to stop at 3.

[fierce light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIumcbFduuY

[amber terrace]

need moreeeeee

[sleek bronze]

lol already prepare for next SS souljade

[burnt basin]

wow so many

[woven musk]

ok ty

[lone umbra]

pls share some of those

[bold ice]

Bruh what the fuck

Was 2012 the last time you built a jade or what

[hidden creek]

normal af for a showdown player who's lucky and running 1 build

^ this is not even the highest amount of mats i've seen

[river stratus]

thats a lot of scorcings

[hidden creek]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-angry-angry-girl-angry-little-girl-get-out-gif-14317590

8 scorchings on plm is alr too much guys

[lone umbra]

If this was tradable

[lone umbra]

Wtf 8 scorching

[hidden creek]

[lone umbra]

i was lucky on plm on getting rares... but ilm is another story

5 times scorching back to back

[balmy coral]

This gives me nightmares

I deconstruct my scorching ghastbloom and recast another jade..

[hidden creek]

you didn't get scorching again? what kind of black magic is this?

[balmy coral]

Nope- I got like 3x moderation and 2 scorching recasting last night. First time getting windfall on a new jade

I'm totally zero now.

[zinc viper]

What are the stats I have to roll for this

[hidden creek]

that's pretty good already

though i think ppl want luck

[zinc viper]

I got one with luck but other stat not that interesthing, maybe I can use it when I grind jade

[lone umbra]

what is diff between Boss dmg reduction and DMG reduction?
is it like DMG reduction applies overall?

[hidden creek]

[lone umbra]

crazy bell

how many retries?

[hidden creek]

this is like the 5th-6th red bell i awakenend

[lone umbra]

nice.. i wanna craft good withered glory awakened 6 but all are mid

[bronze wharf]

Omen Air Smackdown

[fickle linden]

that was crazy

[icy sundial]

thought only i can see it, boss jumped from top rope

[balmy coral]

bro bypassed the matrix

[bronze wharf]

could be tessa ulti glitch

[balmy coral]

Hunted this shitty manticore nightscream last night like 20x and got 0 ghastbloom

Then the succession of failed rare attributes.. I hate this game

[balmy coral]

Ye literally

[bronze wharf]

nirriti can drop

[balmy coral]

Ye I got one from nirriti

and bought the other one from the store.

[balmy coral]

I deconstruct this cos of 2 scorching

[bronze wharf]

oh !

[balmy coral]

This was the last flux I had

[bronze wharf]

you have flux !

[icy sundial]

4 moderation 2 windfall is that good with this ? windfall is in elem lotus and successive

[fierce light]

Passive Rage Recovery, Counter Recovery, & Luck. The rest are negligible unless you're using Burn with Blazing Flame, then also Health.

[balmy coral]

my friend that I recasted last night got perfect ghastbloom with mod and windfall.

I'm so jelly

[fierce light]

Hoping I get this next reset

[balmy coral]

Same ! all 2.4k fatigue for tampered

[bronze wharf]

don't worry you will get it , i alsos build my moderation build since feria season and got that build in tessa season

[fierce light]

Yeah it's a start. Ice doesn't scale that well with anything other than Attack and Ice Blast DMG though you can use DMG to Bosses as a placeholder.

[icy sundial]

thats the stats i have atk, ice blast and dmg to bosses to all jades

[hidden creek]

i forgot which awakening is better

but this bell stat too good i prolly won't get a better one so i won't craft bell anymore ig

[fierce light]

That one is more universally helpful since you'll eventually start fighting 1-2 enemies anyway.

Ice would require you to space out your Ice Blasts as well to use the other Awakening, which may not always be feasible.

[hidden creek]

nice

so i got the end game bell

[fickle linden]

💪

eerie manticore had like 3% left when time ran out

[glacial fable]

I hate this gamble bruh i cant get a full legendary curio

[drifting lance]

🎉 | powerholzi leveled up!

[glacial fable]

[fierce light]

Yeah the worst when it passes at 25% with Blue Attributes

[fierce light]

That might actually make things harder tbh

We get a 15% buff just from being at the recommended sense

[grizzled hollow]

sorry to interrupt, what does "counter a divine thunder once" in the showdown quest mean?

[ashen sedge]

Hey so since i started playing Showdown for almost a year now i did notice that bosses kind of target me always instead of my other teammates. Is this normal ? My premadees can also confirm this fact that while they are fighting the boss and i come in its range he starts to target me and leaves them alone. Anybody else noticed this ?

[amber terrace]

new skill for tarka ji rework

[fierce light]

When hit by Omnious Aureate, Thunder-Wielding Omens or when you attack enemies with Thunderpull equipped/Thunder Blessing in Nirriti's Ruins you'll build up Thundershock. Once it fills up you can parry the lightning that comes down when you have Thunder Counter/Thunder Blessing.

[grizzled hollow]

I see, Thanks alot.

[fierce light]

Not sure how the targeting system works, but certain moves are only activated when the player is at a certain position from the boss, whether behind it or far away from it.

Beautiful adjustment to Kurumi's Curio coming, nice

So many times I've been interrupted right after casting Void Sunder, setting me back on accumulation

[hidden creek]

so, no more sense level next season?

[fierce light]

Looks like they're adding a newbie version of Tempered Inferno as well. The hard one will have a pre requisite.

[hidden creek]

no one gonna ask the question ''how to fast level up sense'' anymore

[fierce light]

I'm a bit mixed on that

It'll be beautiful for calculating things outside of Free Training, but it's going to make things harder, farm slower.

[hidden creek]

yeah dunno how they gonna do it

also

random queue literally turned into nightmare

as if it isn't bad already

[fierce light]

They could honestly add a gear rating system. They already do to an extent on Curios

Well still wouldn't help much cause they could have good stats on trash Souljades

[shrewd basin]

Thank god XD

[amber terrace]

tarka ji new avatar

[shrewd basin]

Also if I read this right Tarkas fireball is gonna be gold focus now?

[fierce light]

Dunno if that'll be in PvE, but yeah in PvP

Wow custom Rage UI

[hidden creek]

prolly nothing changed for pve tarka

[amber terrace]

they changed something on curio tarka ji

[zealous patrol]

They removed the original ults’ elbow attack

[zealous patrol]

Ngl looks like hadi

[hidden creek]

nah

it's still there

[zealous patrol]

It’s a knee attack now

👍

[hidden creek]

only when you achieved the blue flame status

else it's still elbow punch

[zealous patrol]

Oh so elbow punch still there

They didn’t show it in the vid

But he finally has a combo breaker

[amber terrace]

full rage blue flame, press shift then press right click

you will get combo

[zealous patrol]

【浴火重铸，炎神归来 | 全新季沧海实机演示-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/X15zpV8

[amber terrace]

like this

[zealous patrol]

I saw

But he finally has a combo breaker

[hidden creek]

yeah during V

[amber terrace]

lmao, where tf to add curio

[zealous patrol]

Don’t think you can

It should be auto brought in if they ever add it

We don’t even have sub stats in training ground rn

No good way to test damage

[amber terrace]

they changed curio on tarka ji

and can't test it

sad

new jade

ehm.... new Tome system

Katana = Kuzumi Curio

[fierce light]

Odd they removed it from test server. You can select curios in the live client.

[fierce light]

I didn't really understand what it was saying. So enemies that attack will explode?

[hidden creek]

i think it's any attack hit enemy with explosive status will detonate it

[amber terrace]

same

[hidden creek]

oh

so the fireball will also detonate it

so fireball spam

[shrewd basin]

Fire ball meta

Here we come

[fierce light]

Oh that's interesting. Makes it more viable with his Ultimate.

Still extremely niche for Thunder Scorch Mod builds

[hidden creek]

if the explosion dmg is still like +0 wielding and doesn't scale with elemental dmg bonuses then it's still

ehh

kinda shit no?

like what even is the base dmg of the explosion

is it even good

[fierce light]

I haven't been able to test for that since my damage kept varying some odd reason

But if it's the same as the base, then it's 2100% Attack. ~2.5x the DMG of Universe Slash

If it reapplied Explosive after detonating, then I could see it being viable

[tacit nest]

so as of rn in the game, is it better to keep building ice of optimize poison

[fickle linden]

both

[fierce light]

Poison to farm Tempered Inferno more effectively. Ice for most things else.

[tacit nest]

if we farm a bunch of chaos stones and extracts can we use em next season?

[fickle linden]

no, it says they will be removed in item description

[olive nacelle]

When does Tempered Inferno end?

[fickle linden]

when current showdown season ends so in ~40 days

[olive nacelle]

Thanks!

[tacit nest]

ooohhh so inferno isnt permanent?

damn

[balmy coral]

Yess

[amber terrace]

it will reset in new season

[fickle linden]

it's only open latter half of a season

[tacit nest]

Is this one fire or no

[fierce light]

Make sure to burn all your chaos stones before it ends. If not on getting a great Curio for Yama's, then getting everything Lv. 4.

Chaos Extract is super easy to get a lot of though.

[tacit nest]

ive seen

[fierce light]

Missing Luck, Passive Rage Recovery and Counter Recovery.

[tacit nest]

whats the perfect attributes for withered and lotus bell

[amber terrace]

skill dmg, atk, dmg melee, dmg boss

or Rage

[fickle linden]

luck for withered

[hidden creek]

lol where element accumulation

[fickle linden]

i dont want skill dmg

[amber terrace]

or Ele acc

[fierce light]

https://youtu.be/ZIumcbFduuY?si=-F1BmNp4HLLNQF1M

Fiery Lotus Bell

• Elemental Accumulation
• Attack
• DMG to Bosses

Withered Glory

• Counter Recovery
• Passive Rage Recovery
• Luck

[sleek bronze]

We gonna get Justina in 2 month right

I hope her weapon is Heng sword

[fierce light]

Confirmed to be Longsword iirc

[sleek bronze]

Oh

So hepta ? lmao

i want to buy new SS pass for my flux jade lol

[fierce light]

Not sure why she got pushed back, but they've done a decent job of not releasing underpowered characters for that season at least

[fleet aurora]

how do i get the ying yan bonus ?

[lone umbra]

get extreme curio of both yin and yang

no need to equip though

[fleet aurora]

oh okay thanks, im super unlucky so that is gonna be impossible

[fierce light]

50% chance at crafting level 4, it's not that bad

[amber terrace]

ehm ..... HOLD or DEAD

damm

not 3 foxes

[fierce light]

Still really good for non-Yama's content

[amber terrace]

wishing it's 3 fox

[lone umbra]

damn juicy curio

[lone umbra]

so 3 fox better for yama's due to dps burst?

[fierce light]

Yeah, it's basically 4 ults in one

And they have so much Aegis that it's no point trying to break it

[lone umbra]

tried that rage one curio yesterday... 3 fox still beat the timing for me but having infinite ult feels good

[amber terrace]

new hero

[lone umbra]

that looks broken even before release

[shrewd basin]

It’s basically lighting yueshan

[balmy coral]

Looks like a referrence to Susanoo from Onmyouji

[fierce light]

That looks pretty sick ngl

[granite marsh]

What in the command grab\

[woeful monolith]

I feel like Rage one is way better imo

[twin ledge]

Not for Yama

[woeful monolith]

Correct I was thinking inferno my bad

[twin ledge]

Sadly tho

Would be really convenient if it was better

[fierce light]

Noticed she gets a lot of rage from her Skill

She probably has the most balanced Curio options.

[vivid merlin]

Which one better for Tessa.

[amber terrace]

Exclusive

[south gale]

is it worth destroying?

[fickle linden]

don't use flux jade before you have the right 1st rare

you can't change it after you have 2 rares

if you have 2nd tundra might with decent stats, it could be best to destroy that one for 2 flux shards. just shame it has such a good attack and ice blast value

up to you if you wanna fix that one or start working new one with 2 flux shards

[south gale]

So is it worth me trying to change the bad attribute before going after another one? I didn't know the chances increased

[fickle linden]

yes you need to change it before going for another rare

[south gale]

Every time I changed it and got a rare one it was schorting again

three times...

[fickle linden]

yeah it's rng

some get scorching 8 times in a row

others get what they want first try

[south gale]

I thought it was impossible to come lol

[fickle linden]

1/3 chance to get scorching

[south gale]

three times...

lol

Thanks for the help

[fickle linden]

https://dark-zer0.github.io/Showdown/progression.html?option=4

dark zero has good info about recasting in his guide

[fickle linden]

shame i didn't get dmg to boss

[balmy coral]

That was literally me lol

[balmy coral]

Better to fix this cos the values are already maxed.

[distant tinsel]

I am absolutely terrible at the whole, ah, countering/defusing aspect of this game

so if anyone's willing to party with me for some Nirriti's Ruins Hard, I would really appreciate it

I'm a Ziping Yin, Kurumi, and Tessa player

[twin ledge]

weopon dmg might be better anyways

elements dont scale off dmg to boss its ur melee

so melee dmg on that bell is extremly good

[bronze wharf]

[balmy coral]

About the Doom Speedrun I just have to clear it 3x right?

[echo wasp]

Increases Elmental Burst Best?

[lone umbra]

Just need to do 3 weeks doom

[balmy coral]

So I need to wait for next week's doom?

I can't finish the Yama and enigma peak cos too low sense.

[lone umbra]

Yeah

[lone umbra]

What is your sense?

[balmy coral]

1106 atm

[lone umbra]

You can do yama's

[balmy coral]

Can't.

[lone umbra]

How is your build coming along?

[balmy coral]

I need 4 more sense

[lone umbra]

Ahh damn

[balmy coral]

Ngl horrendous.

[lone umbra]

I guess you can do in trios

[balmy coral]

I wasted a flux jade and now no resources at all

[lone umbra]

If avg sense matches

[lone umbra]

Building ice or poison?

[balmy coral]

Poison

I wasted a flux on a ghastbloom with 2 scorching. I deconstruct it and my new ghastbloom I recast

I don't have anymore fragment to fix the attributes

I just need to finish the BP so I can put one more slot and start working on the values and imbue another rare

[lone umbra]

Yeah I feel your pain

Assuming you maxed fatigue too

[balmy coral]

Yes. It's Okay thou.

I will finish all the seasonal quests from nirriti.

[vivid merlin]

Planning to have 4x wind fall on my poison build that has 80% moderation already.

Gets conflicted if I just use it for my ice build to have scorching. Any advice?

[woven musk]

is Ziping good with ice lotus?

[hidden creek]

zip is good with everything

[signal kite]

Waiting for justina UwU

I wonder what's her ult and skill gonna be

[fickle linden]

would be cool if her ult worked with kurumi ult like in pvp

[signal kite]

Wait whaa I don't play pvp much ,can u tell me what it does

[fickle linden]

freezes the whole kurumi ult area

[signal kite]

Dang

That's sick

[bronze wharf]

I Deconstruct my Ice Moderation Build and I got all scorching

[signal kite]

Bruh

Time for you to leave pve and start pvp journey

[amber terrace]

No, time to delete game

[fierce light]

Ah the removal of sense level is going to be more of an account level instead.

Won't have to level individual jades

[fickle linden]

Adjusted the Heroes Showcase order of PVEPersonal Profile: When the Heroes Sense Level is the same, the Heroes with the total score of Showcase magic weapon is higher. In subsequent versions, the Custom Showcase Heroes' Function will also be added.

[glacial fable]

[lyric roost]

https://tenor.com/view/yae-miko-kkpt-kaowpunn-dance-happy-gif-8534623529317108726

[balmy coral]

Imagine if Justina keeps the v1

She would be freezing everything in Tampered every dash

[balmy coral]

Pain

[fierce light]

Wonder how freeze would work on bosses

[bold ice]

probably just a debuff

less damage reduction or something

[fierce light]

Probably reduce a chunk of Aegis like Viper

[hidden creek]

most likely it will be v2

[woven musk]

you cooked yourself 💀

[amber terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-yes-gif-21840558

[amber terrace]

i think debuff boss on freeze area and buff atk on herself, V2

maybe

[woven musk]

when next season comes out, would lotus builds be irrelevant because we get new potential tree?

[balmy coral]

Please anyone nirriti Legend

[hidden creek]

might not be the top meta build anymore but deifinitely won't be too bad

[balmy coral]

Ye hopefully no-

I have no more resources to go for a new build.

[hidden creek]

it's likely new meta builds will still use some of current lotus jades

they always do this

[fierce light]

Thunder builds would be the least affected as they would simply charge faster. Ice and Poison would have the benefit of increased accumulation and the ability for chain reactions.

I doubt they would completely get rid of the -Root nodes though, at most they would combine them for room for other things. Honestly hope they expand the tree for more build options.

[woven musk]

hmm as I just got back to the game and there are around 5 weeks left of the season, im afraid of investing too much resources in lotus builds

[honest folio]

in which mode do we farm jades the best after we hit 1110? Enigma Peak or Nitriti?

[drifting lance]

🎉 | ArkhamsEragon leveled up!
ℹ | Level up messages can be disabled for the guild with owo level disabletext

[woven ingot]

Jades/fragments: enigma topaz 3 bosses.
Crystals: nirrit

[honest folio]

thx and the enigam peak is uselss?

[fierce light]

Don't think anyone is running that right now, you'll need a full team of decently geared people.

It's better than Topaz in drops though

[honest folio]

oh right there is no solo.... tbh the lack of solo or duo combined with the dead matchmaking makes this mode harder than it need to be

[fierce light]

They added an incentive to do Trios with the Yin-yang buff, but wish they would add a solo Enigma Peak.

[honest folio]

how is three bosses 10 Fatigue when it costs 30 to enter?

[hidden creek]

it doesn't cost 30 to enter

[balmy coral]

Tampered I'd say.

[honest folio]

nice game UI then XD

[balmy coral]

Wanna run nirriti Legend?

[honest folio]

iam only attribute level 21 _(

[balmy coral]

AHH damn.

[fickle linden]

full clear is 30 fatigue

[fierce light]

You can have 1 Fatigue left and still get the full rewards. That's just how much it'll consume when you fully clear it

[fickle linden]

happened to me this week

all part of my masterplan of course

[balmy coral]

I'm ready for next week reset.

[fierce light]

Yeah you can stop at wave 7 for one extra run

[balmy coral]

I'm thinking of buying the 10 elixir bundle next week.

Nice

[river stratus]

with elixr on enigma peak you save gold keys and time, on nirriti only time

[balmy coral]

The keys and elixir don't stack?

[river stratus]

1 key with elixir worth double

[balmy coral]

I'll make sure to maximize my poison build by next week and tampered the rest.

[fickle linden]

elixir is just double fatigue for 3 runs

it doesn't get you any extra luck, it just makes you have to play less

golden key gives you extra luck

[balmy coral]

Yess

I think the next update would change a lot of stuff

[fickle linden]

so you want to save your elixirs for peak

so you don't have to spend as many gold keys

[hidden creek]

https://tenor.com/view/aargh-anger-inside-out-2-angry-mad-gif-10662132630662078628

3 rares i got on this jade are all useless rares

WHY

[honest folio]

Item description not helping me... what is the difference?

[jaunty crater]

hi,is ice or poison lotus best for tempered inferno,or thunder lotus by any chance?

[fickle linden]

poison

[jaunty crater]

ty

[river stratus]

yellow are old material and blue new one

[lyric roost]

https://tenor.com/view/koksal-baba-gif-21362938

[timber vapor]

how much stronger is the ice build compared to poison? my poison has 2x windfall 2x moderation and some scorchings, ice wouldnt have any,
should i stay poison or go for ice? :) playing viper

[drifting lance]

🎉 | JRDN leveled up!

[balmy coral]

That too-

[balmy coral]

I'd say max your poison build.

Also, it's fun seeing how my poison build deals more dmg than my friend's ice build which has a higher attribute value than mine.

[bronze wharf]

elixir are useless as for me , wherever i go farm all drop rates are suck .

[balmy coral]

Good enough?

[bronze wharf]

4 moderation for 100% , the others are windfall

[balmy coral]

Yess already have 1 windfall for this build. That's luck I don't have.

Cries

[bronze wharf]

add with flux or recast ?

[balmy coral]

Recast only

I will recast that shit again

[bronze wharf]

Welcome to Scorching Sect

[timber vapor]

trash or usable?

[balmy coral]

If I get another scorching I will deconstruct that jade

[amber terrace]

ahhh, i need this

[fickle linden]

do you use ice or poison build?

[timber vapor]

poison atm

[fickle linden]

get fiery lotus bell, it's better than nut for you

[timber vapor]

ill try, kinda cursed with bells^^

[fierce light]

Good for Thunder Lotus builds.

[fierce light]

They're not there to boost drop rates, but rather burn fatigue faster. In Enigma though, it doubles the effectiveness of Rune Keys

[fierce light]

Poison > Thunder > Ice
in Tempered Inferno.

Poison

• can summon up to 10 Blossom Blasts per Poison Blast

• with the x1.4 damage from Venomous Lotus makes it hit really hard

• Toxin Blasts from 6 Toxified Stacks adds even more damage
• Fiery Lotus Bell activates so often that you can have chain reactions indefinitely as long as you're surrounded by enemies.

Thunder

• can hit stun all the mobs and has really good AoE
• doesn't rely on accumulating on enemies
• highest base scaling of the 3 elements

Ice

• can accumulate elements the fastest, but still severely reduced
• works best for heroes with Exclusive Curios due to reduced cooldown for Moderation

[misty bridge]

Which thunder build is?

[fierce light]

Thunder Lotus. Thunder Lotus Scorch could probably work too

[sleek bronze]

Im regret consume poison build for my Ice build when inferno come lol

[misty bridge]

Which jades do you use on thunder lotus?

[sleek bronze]

i have to choose one for all my rare attibute i need more fluxxxx

[fierce light]

Yeah big reason I don't consume builds unless they've been directly powercrept without hope of being buffed, like Spring's Thunder or Defuse Burn

[balmy coral]

Why do enigma bosses always go out of their designated area?

Especially, korvine

[fierce light]

They're in the pins

[misty bridge]

Oh sorry

[hidden creek]

https://tenor.com/view/argh-no-angry-gif-18759229

4 times useless rare on 1 jade