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[icy sundial]

bring back manticore, we fought this guy for 100 sec still has that much hp

[fierce light]

Manticore is the worst imo

Boss went Iron Skin like 4 times in a row one time

[icy sundial]

this guy kept dashing

[tranquil beacon]

Hard mode. Nightscream doesn't give extra rewards afaik

[tame flume]

Hey guys, how do i use the Chaos Extract to level up Curios?

Never mind. Found it.

[fickle linden]

failed awakening removed good stat and put charged damage there

[sleek bronze]

TESSA is wayyy too OP right now with her CURIO

[fierce light]

You probably don't even have to stress accumulation on Tessa

[signal kite]

Ok so how is this working

[fierce light]

Bug from the test server.

[signal kite]

Aww shet i thought I could use that iron nut lotus for that lol

[sleek bronze]

The triple tail one from extreme curio for tessa maybe does more dam than yueshan ult lol

[signal kite]

tarka also not bad ,, and im using this curio set ,, all runs with tarka + ice mod lotus 🪷

[fierce light]

Yeah. Yueshan's Skill in his Ultimate does 3000%. 4x Fox Spirits would be 3600%.

[sleek bronze]

So tessa ziping and what ? Takar or Yueshan

[sleek bronze]

Thank i will try that

[fierce light]

Idk enough about Tarka's Curio (the element one at least), but there's Kurumi as well

[sleek bronze]

Thankkk im almost run out fatigue hope i can get some Kurumi extreme Curio bofore it is run out

Then next week im gonna get curio for takar

[signal kite]

Ppl uses Tessa + zip and I then go with tarka with that build I shared :3

[turbid agate]

so how does upgrading the curios work?

spend chaos stone to upgrade them and eventually be able to craft and upgrade?

[fierce light]

Crafting is separate from Enhancing them. Craft determines the rarity, Enhancing gives more attributes.

[turbid agate]

how do u enhance?

[fierce light]

Similar to Souljades. Click on them then click Enhance

[turbid agate]

how should i be spding chaos stones?

just craft random ones?

[fierce light]

Yeah have to start with crafting random till you get one to Lv. 1, then you can craft it directly

[turbid agate]

ty dark!

for yin, which ones to go for?

salvation box or withered?

[fierce light]

Withered for Ice/Poison. Box for Thunder.

[turbid agate]

sorry for all the questions, but what about yang?

im assuming their exclsusive one for tarka, tessa, and kurumi, what about the rest?

[fierce light]

Bell for Ice/Poison, Nut for Thunder.

[signal kite]

For quite quite quite quite a while , spam spam spam

[fierce light]

I think the stacking one would be really good in his ult. Throw 5 fireballs, then use a Universe Slash for a massive nuke

21,000% DMG.

[signal kite]

Massive

[fickle linden]

with this you would kill beast orb in one turn easy

[fierce light]

I'll have to see this damage in-game. I might go for it instead of Kurumi's next week

[fickle linden]

in every 2 boss yama's it's helpful, i just nuked water ent from 40% health to 0

not that ent was problem but you can down the 1st boss fast and focus on 1v1 if you want

would be cool if i could play tarka. and had something else than ice build 😄

[fierce light]

It should be fine to use the stacking one on Ice build.

The elemental one, probably not.

[sleek bronze]

What should i go with extreme awaken Fiery Lotus Bell the increase elemental burst or the trigger in 5 times one

[fierce light]

I'd say keep one of each. Trigger 5 times is better against 1-2 targets, elemental burst for groups.

[sleek bronze]

Ohh okeee thankkks a lott

[fierce light]

Here's my sub-7 minute run: https://youtu.be/lYlEHmv6AP0?si=3wJ-drqSU6oc0TBL

[fickle linden]

thanks

[fierce light]

I'll probably try next week for the Sub-6 Minute again

[fickle linden]

aww damn, i forgot 50% of my moderation comes from miasma drive in my plm..

[timid stirrup]

i believe my miasma is the same way

[fierce light]

Miasma can work, especially if well built

[fickle linden]

just sucks, cuz i crafted this and forgot if i use it, i will only have 50% moderation

well. im sure i have use for it one day

[fierce light]

Yup, main reason I recommend putting it on the core Souljades

[shrewd basin]

So for the first double fight is the strat nuke 1 then fight the other?

[fierce light]

Position yourself so both bosses are in front of you. Iron Tianfei likes to back up a lot after spawning some reason without attacking, so you can wham on him

Some of Mountain Ghost's attacks can hit you through him, so be careful of that though

[shrewd basin]

So target Tianfei and kite ghost

[fierce light]

Yup

This is only for Solo though, in Trios both bosses will be active.

[turbid agate]

whats the point of teleporting to the other ares in the new game mode?

[fierce light]

Lol I did a random craft, got Tessa's Extreme Curio and got the Awakening I was missing

[balmy coral]

Is it possible to get invited to do a manticore hunt Hard even thou my sense hasn't reach 1k yet?

Or get invited to tampered Inferno by chance

[fierce light]

Way too early for Tempered Inferno, but it might let you in Manticore Hunt

[balmy coral]

I see thanks! I need inferno for the event.

[fierce light]

It might restrict you cause of your sense iirc

[balmy coral]

Ye seems so

Reaching 1k sense- event would be over before I could even do that

[fierce light]

Should be possible

Forget what I reached the week that the Sense floor/cap was raised

But it was over 1k

[steep patio]

Dark where did u get the shadow and thunder elixir?

[fierce light]

It gives it to you on the last 2 levels of the Forge iirc

You can get it faster if someone goes to the grotto, but I don't think it's worth.

[steep patio]

Yeah yeah ik but where do you find it

[fierce light]

It'll be at the top of your inventory

or if you use M&K I believe it shows up at the bottom-right

[steep patio]

It’s in everyone’s inventory or just 1 person?

[fickle linden]

still not enough damage to finish last round in solo but getting closer..

wish i had extreme bell

[tribal venture]

damn most of the curios are lotus related

[balmy coral]

I will try. I'm done with ranked anyway.

[fierce light]

Poison + Bell is insane

[ivory wharf]

so grind for inferno is:

1. grind for stones to divine craft random curio until one becomes lvl 1
2. target craft that curio until max lvl so that evreything else has 50% chance extreme
3. craft good curios you want so you can actually get past wave 5 solo

[fickle linden]

what does your bell look like?

[fickle linden]

i don't think 2. is true

it's only 50% chance extreme for target crafting the one you have lvl 4

[ivory wharf]

so guess #1 gets extended a bit then

[fierce light]

1. Random Craft is enabled by default, Targeted Crafts are locked to Lv. 1+ of their respective Curios.
2. Chance of Epic, Legendary or Extreme Curio does not change in Random Crafts.
3. Targeted Crafts have varying rates depending on their level.

For the most part if your Lotus build is set up enough you should be able to make it to Wave 7. Clearing Wave 8 consistently will probably require some Curios though.

[fickle linden]

oh nvm, i saw your bell in the sub 7min video. im dumb

[fierce light]

Oh I thought I answered

[plain garnet]

@fierce light What do you think is the strongest element right now after the latest update? I'm torn between trying the Ice build or switching to Poison, but since you're more experienced in this game mode, I wanted to know your opinion on the current meta.

[thorn narwhal]

so regarding of tarka's nuke, does it benefit from using any scorch/burn build or unaffected and same as on element,
does the nuke lasts for the whole universal slash, aka all hit enemies will be dead or just the first enemy it hits.

[twin ledge]

Ice is still stronger it’s just that poison ziping is broken in new mode just cause how it’s works in there

[fierce light]

They're strong at different things.
Ice

• Great at doing quick bursts of damage. Shortest Elemental cooldown.
• Does the least damage per burst.
  Poison
• Great at sustained area damage.
• Multiplicative with the number of enemies (up to 4), lowest single-target DMG.
  Thunder
• Highest scaling Element. Preforms well with or without potential.
• Lowest Elemental Accumulation, can take a while to charge up and requires you to parry.

[hollow herald]

If the monsters don't attack the Chaos Furnace, it still gradually dies anyway?

[shrewd basin]

Yes

[plain spire]

New mode isn't fun...

[fierce light]

Anyone run it with a built Thunder build yet?

Don't think it would be affected much by the reduced Elemental Accumulation.

[turbid agate]

any1 wana play the new mode? trying to get all 8 waves done, been super close

[amber terrace]

i saw someone play thunder build in new mode

and it has video on dy

https://www.douyin.com/search/永劫无间征神之路?modal_id=7494260133598334262&type=general

[fickle linden]

finally

once i get extreme bell i can start shave some time off 💪 😭

[fierce light]

Not bad

[fierce light]

Yeah just was wondering how the damage compares

[amber terrace]

[fickle linden]

could it be omens?

[timid stirrup]

congrats bro

did u use bell also?

would plm + bell b good for tessa if no awakened tessa curio?

[fickle linden]

yep

[fickle linden]

non-awakened tessa felt terrible compared to ziping for me

but not sure about poison + bell on her

[timid stirrup]

i used plm + bell on her when toxic pool omen was active and it worked well. but my bell is not as good and was in trios

[fierce light]

I got it down consistently when I was farming it, but seems harder now. I doubt I got lucky with the omens that many times in a row.

[twin ledge]

im gonna be testing thunder next week

ran out of mats this week tryng to change some hp into divine

[rigid belfry]

Hello, what is "Horizontal, Vertical Finishers"?

[hidden creek]

3rd attack of a 123 attack sequence

[rigid belfry]

Ty

[fierce light]

Wow beautiful gold curio

[queen ether]

anyone able to run some doom mode rn?

[hollow escarp]

whithered glory and fiery bell seems to be good combo?

can you not upgrade the curio options?

[steep patio]

yama anyone, na

[queen ether]

🥲

[queen ether]

what rank?

[steep patio]

16

[queen ether]

lol, no

[steep patio]

._.

[queen ether]

not even plat yet

[steep patio]

ehhh you'll be fine 😉

[queen ether]

aight, bet

im always dfown to die trying lol

[glacial fable]

What is the best awakened stat for fiery lotus bell ?

[hidden creek]

• element accumulation rate
• attack
• dmg to boss
  yang curios in general

[steep patio]

hes talking about the red ability

not those

[hidden creek]

oh

[sleek bronze]

Here the ans.

[rigid belfry]

But just gold ^^

[sleek bronze]

Like Dark said

[astral widget]

Who want Play inferno?

[sullen pawn]

what are ppl takes on this new mode and the added curio system?

[round glacier]

To much of a grind with not enough fatigue

But a good addition though the curio

Especially the specific ones

[fierce light]

Very quick to burn fatigue now, if you're decently built. Glad to have an end game grind that's not as soul crushing as trying to get the right rare attributes.

[thorn narwhal]

it technically is just as random rng as the rares, you need the exact 4 attributes on the curio with all being gold which rng in rng in rng

is annoying that you can't change attributes at all? and the curio is just thrown to trash i suppose

[thorn narwhal]

ah plus the awakening, that is another 50% chance rng

[fierce light]

It's mainly 3 attributes out of 9 possible options. The options for the 4th are pretty negligible. That's only for the Yang Curios as well, the Yin Curios would probably just want Luck and maybe some healing (unless you're running Burn/Blazing Flame, then you'd want Health).

[thorn narwhal]

yeah, i'm pretty sure they will add more soon, they kinda filled it with junk that doesn't make sense, like why there's a non-boss dmg reduction and a boss dmg reduction.

[fierce light]

Wanted it to be the opposite of Yang i guess

Not sure why they have lower possible values than plain DMG Reduction.

[thorn narwhal]

some are scaled crazy

omg i thought you could get 2 element accumulation attributes aka 60%

tho having 48%+ health would have been insane

[hidden creek]

salvation box awakened 21% melee dmg resist, then there's the 12% melee dmg resist attribute too 33% melee dmg resist + 9% boss dmg resist + 9% mob dmg resist

[fierce light]

Added the chart to the pins

[lyric roost]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-butt-spank-spanking-slap-butt-gif-5769175

[fierce light]

Honestly pretty nice for Thunder since it's the most vulnerable and wants to be up close.

Just unfortunate they added a trap Awakening for Box.

[thorn narwhal]

there's counter recovery but not defuse, and health but no element dmg, more and more buffs to thunder scorch

[fierce light]

Elements are buffed by the effects themself

[thorn narwhal]

in the yin no element buffs i think ?

[fierce light]

Cup increases Blossom Blast DMG | Lotus Impact Life Steal

[thorn narwhal]

also both tarka's and kurumi's curio awakenings are a little underwhelming, only tessa is standing out

[thorn narwhal]

ah yes the curio, i was meaning just attributes there

[fierce light]

Box multiplies Lotus Impact DPS by
(4 + additional Lotus) / 4

Yeah they didn't get attributes since the Curio effects buff them

[thorn narwhal]

yea that would make it fair then

[hidden creek]

tbf no one really tested the tarka curio no?

[fierce light]

Tarka's Elemental Curio would probably be useless for Thunder Scorch

[thorn narwhal]

the only benefit i see is that you can apply the burn effect while on cooldown with your fireball and then have universal slash charged up and ready the second cooldown is off, instant element blast there

ult stacking is kinda too long road

[fierce light]

Paired with Ziping for the interruption shield, probably could do a lot of damage with it

Especially since his Ultimate can stay up during entire waves

[thorn narwhal]

yeah one used it and the spam was crazy his damage was on bar with zipping

[hidden creek]

meanwhile valda and temmy

is crying

[thorn narwhal]

[fierce light]

Yeah they both would've loved a Curio

Ah least Kurumi got one

[thorn narwhal]

honestly i still feel kurumi needs some more adjustments

like if you can instantly use swift cut out of defuse like some other heroes have charged attacks after defuse counterattack

[fierce light]

Yeah that's the main reason I prefer the quick charge Awakening

Crazy I still have Lv. 0 & 0 xp for Tarka's Curio.

I might just spam random craft next reset. If anything reaches Lv. 3 I'll manually craft.

[thorn narwhal]

@fierce light it's officially quick swift cut is better, extra void sunder feels too much hassle,
1- it feels buggy it kinda disappears early having double voids so no idea if all the damage applies
2- it takes a little long to activate the second void, and boss would have already changed their place they move a lot
3- swift cut often misses the weird hitbox of the bosses which results in more swift cut charges to activate
4- it just tends to miss a lot and kinda harder to maintain
5-mostly bad timing along with element cooldowns.
quick charge matches with ice cooldown, unless you are running a longer cooldown, [poison, no frozen blast ice] 2 void could be a little more viable then.

[thorn narwhal]

same, tarka seems very rare

[fierce light]

I have his Gold from a drop

About it

[fierce light]

Yeah they made the hit box for Swift Cut a bit too short

[lusty prism]

I think I played with you last night but you disconnected

[thorn narwhal]

Yes internet has been acting lately, I left your duo a message

[lusty prism]

Yea we was getting off around then

[short meadow]

How Do i get more dmg in new mode 😭 I haven’t played for a week and Now i Don't know anything about new mode

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-sad-sadge-working-on-the-fields-working-hard-gif-11731024323895172836

[fierce light]

It just came out last Thursday

[timid stirrup]

by last thursday he means 2 days ago

[signal kite]

Lol

[shrewd basin]

I’ve already near max my fatigue and I haven’t even gotten past round 5 don’t know what I’m doing wrong 😑 this constant tick down is annoying af

[north lynx]

I maxed fatigue yesterday

U can do up to r7 solo!

I know u can

[north lynx]

Are you letting minions past the barrier

[shrewd basin]

No, it’s the tick down that’s getting me

Not enough DPS I guess

I have a mid ice build

3 wf 4mod

[fickle linden]

do you have poison build?

[north lynx]

Idk I'm able to solo it with the most mid luck poisen build with only 2 windfalls

[shrewd basin]

Nothing with rare mods

[fickle linden]

my poison build has only 2 mod and it outdps my perfectly maxed ice build

[fickle linden]

yep, poison just way better than ice

don't need no moderation, just pick zippy and spin with charged attack

[north lynx]

Facts lmao

[fickle linden]

think i'm gonna max my poison build tho, it's gonna be sick in peak when mobbing

[north lynx]

It's very good for that

[shrewd basin]

Next week imma need a carry TvT

Help a brother out

[heavy gulch]

awww I cant send a pic of my build 😭

I wanted to show it off like a toddler with macaroni art

[fickle linden]

level up your crafting

[short meadow]

Hmmm still donno anything

[fickle linden]

target craft bells until you get decent extreme one

that will help with dps 😛

[heavy gulch]

anyone free to run speedrun with me? can send my build if ya'll are picky(its alrightish), I am just unsure of how easy it would be to solo that level or if theres like extra stuff with speedrun(I just want the achievement 😭 )

[fierce light]

Yeah getting a good Extreme Bell is top priority since it helps every character.

Then it's between getting an Extreme Cup for the Luck bonus or Hero Exclusive Curios.

[north lynx]

I can if we find a third as well

Idc for times either I just want the weekly reward

[fierce light]

Tempered Inferno Drop Information

[fierce light]

I'll help

[heavy gulch]

\o/

[north lynx]

W

[heavy gulch]

I'm eepyMorgZzz

[fierce light]

It looks like Wave 4 is a good stopping point for Curio Progression, if you can't clear Wave 7.

[fickle linden]

are these @ 100% rewards

or 150?

if it's 100% then it would be exactly same jades/fatigue as nirriti hard

[fierce light]

Yes, 100%

[fickle linden]

so no nirriti for 2nd half of season ❤️

but also.. no golden keys

[fierce light]

And yeah it's identical with Nirriti's Ruins for Jades, just can't drop Keys and likely less Carved Crystals.

[north lynx]

@fierce light TLS seems insane in new mode btw

[fierce light]

I don't understand why my Naraka FPS is so inconsistent

[north lynx]

You group the mobs around the boss and you get divine thunder like every sec

I was crashing fpswise a bit too

[fierce light]

Nice! Surprised more people aren't using Thunder with the reduced accumulation

[shrewd basin]

I have most almost lvl 1

[woven ingot]

Send free 5K fragments/crystals my way and I will try it ^^

[fierce light]

Regular Thunder Scorch should be decent as well if you're using a character with AoE attacks.

Just won't benefit from any of the Universal Curios

[north lynx]

24% health does go crazy tho

I think regular thunderscorch would be great if I could pull a 400 counter recovery on curio.

I'm getting rid of them on base jades and going all dps

Since defensive curios will always have defensive stats

Ideally health, rage, counter triggers reco, and luck

Or I can just play perfectly and never get hit and stop being a noob

[fierce light]

Yeah perfect Yin Curio for Elemental builds would probably be:

• Passive Rage Recovery +40%
• Counter triggers recovery +400
• Luck +1500
• DMG Reduction +12%

Replacing DMG Reduction with Health +24% for Burn builds.

[south tusk]

i got 2 with trash sub XD and i confuse with this awaken too @@

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Yoshiメジ leveled up!

[south tusk]

which one better ? Zero

[fierce light]

Hmm by the wording it sounds like the left could give you life steal for everything. But i doubt it. Still more healing, so you don't have to stress Counter Triggers Recovery.

Left Curio increases your Life Steal by 10%.
Right Curio increases your Blossom Blast damage by 5%.

[turbid agate]

Are you able to change the attribute on a curio like a jade? I haven't seen the option.

[fickle linden]

i've got the left one, it actually heals pretty nicely

[south tusk]

understood big thank Zero

[fickle linden]

especially in new mode you get full HP fast as hell because million mobs around you

[turbid agate]

Wack

[fickle linden]

but i guess it's mostly just the lotus impact restoring

[south tusk]

gotcha

[fierce light]

Can you test and see if it's only Lotus Impact's that are boosted by that one?

Sounds like it could be lifesteal for all

[granite marsh]

Dam I take longer waiting out the timer on round 5 than getting there

[lusty prism]

Needed that Elemental Accumulation

[amber terrace]

atk, dmg boss, element accu, dmg skill

best choice

[whole venture]

what is best way to upgrade sense level

[fierce light]

Nirriti's Ruins until you're strong enough to clear first 3 bosses in Enigma Topaz, then run that.

[north lynx]

It makes all the difference

[fierce light]

Shouldn't be that important for Tessa. Combo will still be Charged Vertical + Skill. It could help in Tempered Inferno though.

[north lynx]

In inferno it's pretty important because mod stops proccing all the time without it

Cuz of the global nerfs

But outside of inferno yeah its redundant

[fierce light]

I just spam her Skill during her Ultimate. But yeah outside of her Ultimate she's pretty lacking

Rage/DMG Dealt probably going to be helpful for her

[lyric roost]

https://tenor.com/view/chibiusa-sad-lonely-gif-15027483

[turbid agate]

is this awakening any good?

sounds kinda bad?

[fierce light]

I haven't gotten it to test, but I think it could be good on a Thunder build

Extremely bad for Poison since none of the Jades will work cause of it and bad for Ice cause Successive Ice Blast can't activate.

[turbid agate]

ty dark, rip i only use ice lol

[woeful monolith]

40 mill tessa?

[fierce light]

I'd still keep it

[turbid agate]

ok

[magic prairie]

Can always go higher

[covert olive]

Friend! ❤️

Don't look at my baby dps okay

[magic prairie]

At least you dont sit w 3m when 2 other sweat to clear lmao

[covert olive]

xD playing chars i dont use man, im trying. it went up to 19mil in the run we just did

sense lvl aint even maxed

[magic prairie]

Yeah i also play chara i normally dont but as long as it clears idc lmao. U doin well

[signal kite]

Tessa with poison lotus ?

[fierce light]

ImJustAGirl representing the meme 💀

[signal kite]

Haha

For kUwUmi any build ?

[twin ledge]

Wym like what build for her curio

Oh wait u might be talking about something else

[fierce light]

Yang Curio: Awakened Mirror

• Curio Attributes: Attack, DMG to Boss, Weapon DMG Bonus, & Charged DMG.
  Yin Curio: Glory
• Curio Attributes: Counter triggers recovery, Luck, Passive Rage Recovery, & DMG Reduction.

Souljade Build: Ice Lotus

• Souljade Attributes: x6 Attack, x6 Ice Blast DMG, x8 [Windfall], x4 [Moderation].

[signal kite]

Some jade and potential build that can complement her mirror 🪞 curio well

[twin ledge]

Ah then that

[signal kite]

Using ice I felt I'm getting too much frozen

[fierce light]

Have to defuse the freeze effect.

Shouldn't freeze you that much anyway unless you're running Depths Blast some reason.

[twin ledge]

Then these it’s what I have but sadly that blue stat was gold but when I awakened it game got rid of it for blue

Wait not skill tho

[signal kite]

Totally forgot about that lol

[signal kite]

[twin ledge]

Yea missing just dmg to boss

[stone niche]

I don’t mean to sound stupid but is there like a strat to the new mode? I haven’t been able to really read into it and all the details so I’m kinda just throwing myself at it when I have time to play and see but even when I’m running around like a headless chicken just killing everything I still somehow doing highest dmg ;—; this is my best run so far

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Hugzz leveled up!

[stone niche]

Or am I just getting unlucky with my matchups - or is it something like where you’d rather have a set team to run gold keys with kinda thing? (Basically not random queueing)

[shrewd basin]

Pretty much just need good teammates and good DPS, I’ve been stuck round 5 for the most part

[fierce light]

Poison Lotus + Fiery Lotus Bell or Thunder Lotus + Iron Nut Lotus make some strong builds you can use to clear it. There's not really a strategy, more so just kill the mobs and bosses. It comes down to having enough DPS in the end. I do strongly recommend having a Ziping Ying though as she has amazing grouping potential and can compete in DPS with Exclusive Curio holders.

[fierce light]

@magic prairie Dang I only managed to get to 40m so far.

[shrewd basin]

Quit show boating XD

[timid stirrup]

i think u missed a 0

[signal kite]

I thought that's 8m there got scared for sec

[stone niche]

Would ziping also be on poison lotus too? And what curio would she have?

[stone niche]

It’s my highest and only had run that’s hit that round 😂😭

[hollow escarp]

first double rare

[fierce light]

Fiery Lotus Bell + Withered Glory

[stone niche]

Thank you 🙏🏼

What stats do you try to get with those?

[fierce light]

Yang Curio:

• Attack, DMG to Bosses, & Elemental Accumulation
  Yin Curio:
• Luck, Counter triggers Recovery, & Passive Rage Recovery

Beyond those, it doesn't make much of a difference.

[shrewd basin]

Ok so seriously how do you get past the double boss or more specifically how to prevent them from healing each other

[fierce light]

They can heal each other..?

[shrewd basin]

It sure seems like it

After breaking there aegis

[fierce light]

Oh I think that's an omen

[fickle linden]

i think it's for all, but i meant the nice amount of healing is more from just the lotus impact doing it's work instead of awakening

ill try to check today

2.5k shards gone and didn't get my poison build maxed

[hollow escarp]

Oh so they heal each other

I thought they were just weirdly spongy

[timid stirrup]

is there a trick to round 8?

[shrewd basin]

Suffer

[timid stirrup]

every time i get close in a trio the flower/timer just drains extra faster

or we get wrecked

[fickle linden]

i've not played trio but it's not different from others in solo

[fierce light]

Having a good Fiery Lotus Bell helps a lot in there. Aside from on heroes with dedicated Curios.

[fickle linden]

i just pull boss into trash mobs and AOE as much possible and then finish boss 1v1 after trash mobs all die

just like every round

i dont use flagpole/lotus anymore like when i started, instead just stay spawn whole fight

i just pray that last boss is hellscorch or aureate instead of manticore lol

[north lynx]

Best strat esp on poisen or burns

Multiple pools and tons of ele accumulation

[zinc viper]

I just stay at spawn, kill enemy and let Ghastbloom finish the boss for me

That how I solo 8 lol

I need good Omen tho, sometimes it not enough

[strong kiln]

I have no idea how to do this

[magic prairie]

Just sit on mob spawn so its blasts all over the shop lmao

[magic prairie]

Ye

[magic prairie]

On my friends defence, me and Cat did this mode duo before she joined so she had no curio and barely a build to join 🤣 but yes name checks out

[leaden relic]

Maybe we lend you ImJustAGirl and you’re gonna top the 45m 😂

[strong kiln]

How do you solo 8 tho?

[zinc viper]

I got Poison Blast boost omen so Zippjng vacuum all enemy and Ghastbloom constantly pop and boss die by it, sometime I have to finish it but I mannage like that, It not garanteed, I garanteed wave 7 tho

[fickle linden]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYlEHmv6AP0

dark has video how he does it under 7min

[strong kiln]

I see

[round glacier]

Pick build based on boss omen is best chance

[strong kiln]

I have only 1 build that is poison

[hidden creek]

keep reset it until you got poison omen

[strong kiln]

Since the last time I touch showdown is 2.5 update I think

[hidden creek]

if you run solo

[strong kiln]

What if I run with team?

[round glacier]

Pick your strongest build

[strong kiln]

Actually I just ask, I don't have friends to play showdown with

[round glacier]

Someone needs to run ziping though

[strong kiln]

This is the one I assume

[round glacier]

Surprisingly short queues

[strong kiln]

I LOST WAVE 8 BECAUSE I DEAL NOT ENOUGH DAMAGE TO KILL A TRASH MOB

@zinc viper mann

[zinc viper]

Just try again and reward for wave 7 sound good enough for me

[strong kiln]

Or I could actually grind and level up my potential

[zinc viper]

Well if your potential and jade are not optimize yet it good way to level I guess

[balmy coral]

Any good matari jade build?

[strong kiln]

I mostly have problem with wave 5

[zinc viper]

Is it the 2 boss ?

[strong kiln]

Yeah

The 2 boss without mob

[pale rose]

Where is the prize list located on showdown when you complete yama's abyss on platinum 2 stage

[fickle linden]

one is always docile, so try to have them close to each other so you can damage both

[fierce light]

Should be on the top left when choosing a floor

[bold ice]

putting manticore into the inferno is the single worst decision they made this season

infinite stalling

[fickle linden]

petition: remove iron skin from the game

[bold ice]

its like they dont want to make a good boss

[fickle linden]

idk how to link it but dark has post in feedback about it

[bold ice]

yeah i saw it

but atp they kinda threw themselves into a corner they cant get out of

just artificially pumping up the difficulty

[fierce light]

https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1345214096089288786

[bold ice]

its just time stall, jump away, "fuck you" aoe attack

janky hitbox on a oneshot attack

[fierce light]

I could've had a sub-5 minute clear, but then it spawned and wasted 3 minutes

[north lynx]

Ranged attacks should work on stoneform, idk why they made it so only ult skills and lotus/elements hit him. That seems like allot, but it really isn't. Also wuchen ult breaks manticore stoneform in other modes, or it did pre patch, but it doesn't work in inferno?

There's also an annoying visual glitch that gives him permanent stoneform. It isn't real but throws off the pace when it tricks you into thinking it is.

[hollow escarp]

this works perfectly, thanks for the tips

tho at some points mob do die out eventually and its back to 1v1

much better than me focusing boss b4 and get constantly ganked

[north lynx]

I wish they just made bosses have unique ways to fight them that doesn't include rng immunity with no counter play, like waiting for immunity to expire or for him them to launch a blue for a slight reduction on stoneform.

[north lynx]

Yeah grouping mobs with the boss at spawn is the best strat.

Even when it goes into a 1v1 you probably did decent damage.

[hollow escarp]

yea and most importantly no ganks

[fierce light]

Yeah i think that's what makes Poison the strongest in Tempered Inferno.

Can summon 10 Blossom Blasts per Poison Blast

[signal kite]

Using all my resources to build both poison and lightning set

Thunder coz I like it 🪷

[fickle linden]

one day... and 20 000 shards later.. we shall have all meta builds at our disposal

[fierce light]

Happy I made the set, although I didn't invest into Venomous Lotus till recently.

Ah also Toxin Blast procing so often

[fickle linden]

yep super happy i didn't deconstruct my poison build when i swapped to ice

having both will be super nice

ice build for bossing and yama's, poison build for mobbing in peak and inferno

just need thunderscorch for yama's now 😛

[fickle linden]

my plm with miasma drive has 100% mod and with venomous lotus 50% mod, venomous wins easily in new inferno for me

[fierce light]

Yeah you don't really need 100% mod in there

[fickle linden]

still want 100% mod for peak thought

[fierce light]

https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1363522290788077739

[pale rose]

I mean prize list when you get to choose between 3 flaming ash weapons for free

[fickle linden]

it's a chest that you can find in your inventory

[pale rose]

I didn't take it yet from the prize list

[fickle linden]

hm i dont get what you mean, what list?

[pale rose]

Its like a list for completing stuff for showdown

Get 9* from doom, clear platinum 2 stage on Yama's abyss etc

[fickle linden]

oh this?

quests?

[pale rose]

Nu-uh, completing platinum 2 you get this weapon chest

[fickle linden]

i remember the chest, you could choose between 3 showdown weapon skins or 100 showdown coins

i think you claimed it from seasonal quests?

[north lynx]

There was an option under season challenges yeah

[viscid wraith]

It was the "main quest" thingy. You need to clear every task there before you get the weapon chest iirc

[amber terrace]

imagine they sell this V for wuchen

[fierce light]

Lol I tried Wuchen on Stage 15 yesterday, it was a joke for him

1:40 iirc

[hidden creek]

why the mobs keep ignoring me and went for the chaos furnace even i'm camping at the spawn point?

[river stratus]

fox spirits are considered skill dmg or melee dmg?

[hidden creek]

psure it's couldn't be melee dmg

not sure if it scale with skill dmg either

[burnt bone]

which curio good for zip?

[fierce light]

If you don't hit them at least once, they'll wonder off sometimes

[hidden creek]

that's so stupid

[fierce light]

Main reason I swap to ranged and pop the boss when it spawns

[fierce light]

I'll have to test it later, most likely is Skill DMG though.

[river stratus]

ok

[fierce light]

Fiery Lotus Bell + Withered Glory

[astral widget]

need 2 good players for inferno challenge

or paragon trio

[flat pier]

need this xD

[flat pier]

which curio for kuru, tessa and viper? Which sj set should i use for each hero and each curio set pleasE?

thank you zero 😄

also for wuchen please?

spent all my resources.. no shard, no jade left to recast but omg.. finally.. phew

[fierce light]

Poison/Ice
Yang:

• Exclusive Curio | Fiery Lotus Bell
  Yin:
• Withered Glory

Divine Thunder
Yang:

• Exclusive Curio | Iron Nut Lotus
  Yin:
• Salvation Box

[flat pier]

thank you.. btw, any changes to ice set? or the one you already pinned is good?

[amber terrace]

which awaken yin best?

[fierce light]

Souljades still the same, just Venomous Lotus got a buff to where it beats Miasma Drive in every situation.

[fierce light]

Depends on the element

Thunder build has really high Lotus Impact damage and Salvation Box amplifies that.
Poison build has the highest Blossom Blast DMG, which Withered Glory boosts.
Ice build can use either or, but it'll take a while to reach 6-7 Lotus on it.

[cobalt torrent]

what are horizontal/vertical finishers exactly?

[fierce light]

The 3rd attack in an Uncharged Combo.

[burnt bone]

[timid stirrup]

this is the same situation for me. and im working on my venomous lotus now

[fierce light]

I only got one rare attribute this week, kinda crazy

Hopefully with the boosted luck it'll be better next reset

[turbid agate]

I got super lucky this week. Got to jades w rares on the same day. From farming the new mode

[zenith tangle]

Anyone down for showdown?

Nvm I hopped off

[ocean bobcat]

anyone for nirriti ?? normal mode iam new

[twin ledge]

I love ur mavuika profile picture

[north lynx]

You tested out defuse solidification at all for poisen?

[ocean bobcat]

ty it's from web event

[twin ledge]

Ok I thought I remember seeing it from somewhere

[fierce light]

No, but I reckon Fiery Lotus Bell makes it unnecessary

[fair shuttle]

lemme know too

idk how

[tame flume]

@fair shuttle
Yeah it's actually easier than you think. Go to Showdown Preparation. Click on Curio, click on Equip Curio. There click on one of the Curios, and a wheel pops up. Here choose Enhance. There it is.

[fierce light]

@river stratus Might be a bit hard to test actually, I'll have to get two of the same pieces.

[fair shuttle]

lmao thx

i probably saw it multiple times but didnt even bother reading

[fair shuttle]

also another question, i should smelt everything other than the ones i use?

[fierce light]

I'd say keep one of your best of each (including one of each awakening) Curio. There's still time where they might adjust some of them so they might become good.

You'll have plenty of resources for Enhancing, the main thing is having enough to Craft them.

[fair shuttle]

which one to use

[fair shuttle]

yea i had like 10 of the same stuff

[fierce light]

I'd say left since it has Elemental Accumulation Rate +30%

Right probably would do more damage though, so it depends on how comfortable you are with your Skill Cooldown.

[fair shuttle]

thx

[balmy coral]

what stage is best to raise your sense level to 1k?

I'm currently grinding nittri

[fierce light]

Nirriti's Ruins till you're strong enough to clear first 3 bosses of Enigma Topaz, then run that until you can beat all 9 bosses.

[balmy coral]

Then I'm doing it right. At 860 sense level rn

Do u have a specific Jade build for matari?

[fierce light]

She performs best on Ice Lotus Mod due to it's shorter cooldown allowing her to keep her Skill buff pretty much permanently active with [Moderation].

Ice Lotus Mod
Souljades

• Successive Ice Blast, Frozen Blast, Elemental Lotus, Ghastbloom, Sub-Zero Seal | Frostbound Lotus, & Tundra Might.
  Target Souljade Attributes
• x6 Attack, x6 Ice Blast DMG, x4 [Moderation], & x8 [Windfall].

Matari Curios
Yang = Fiery Lotus Bell
Yin = Withered Glory
Target Curio Attributes

• Yang: Elemental Accumulation Rate, Attack, DMG to Bosses, & Weapon DMG Bonus.
• Yin: Luck, Counter triggers recovery, & Passive Rage Recovery.

[balmy coral]

Tysm

[tacit nest]

can someone update me on new update

what to do first, been moving for like a month

[fierce light]

Welcome back. Poison got a buff from Curios, the new equipment they added.

1. Farm Tempered Inferno to get Chaos Stones in order to Craft Curios.
2. You'll have to start with Random Crafts as you need to have a Crafting Level of at least Lv. 1 in order to do a Targeted Craft.
3. You get Crafting XP everytime you Craft a Curio, whether from Random Crafts or Targeted Crafts.

I'd recommend aiming for an Extreme Fiery Bell Lotus and Withered Glory to start things off.

If you're going to solo it, here's a video of how I do it with Ziping: https://youtu.be/lYlEHmv6AP0?si=3wJ-drqSU6oc0TBL

[tacit nest]

are those two the most pwerful??

for poison or ice?

and thank u

[fierce light]

Yeah they use the same curios

Only Thunder has a different set

[tacit nest]

how does one obtain an extreme one

[hollow escarp]

does fatigue affect the curio fragment you get?

[fierce light]

Like this?

[fierce light]

• 1% chance from Random Crafts.
• Very low chance as a drop from Tempered Inferno.
• 20% Chance from Targeted Craft at Craft Lv. 3.
• 50% Chance from Targeted Craft at Craft Lv. 4.

[hollow escarp]

what does that chaos stone/fatigue means?

[fierce light]

# of Chaos Stones per 1 Fatigue.

[hollow escarp]

oh

no i mean its like the % number

say im at 100% now for this week, does that mean at wave 7 i get 8?

or is 8 the 150% number

[fierce light]

Yes, you'll get 8

This chart is at 100% Rewards.

[hollow escarp]

oooh

[fierce light]

75% rewards would give you 6.

[hollow escarp]

ty ty

[tacit nest]

so those two that you mentioned dark are the best rn?

[fierce light]

The best for the most heroes and builds

[glossy dragon]

Whats the best hero for showdown ?

[fierce light]

If you're going Thunder, then you'd want Iron Nut Lotus + Salvation Box instead. If that hero has an exclusive Curio, then you want those instead.

[fierce light]

Ziping

[tacit nest]

whats curio tempened essence

[fierce light]

You use it for Awakening Curios (can only be done on Extreme ones).

[thorn narwhal]

how do they kill the orb.. is there a trick to that

[fierce light]

Need extremely high damage

Make sure your ults are ready and your using meta heroes

[thorn narwhal]

we do but no matter what, we still don't get it
tho we haven't gotten the good curios yet but i recall it was possible without?

[tacit nest]

how do we unlock those ones again??

[thorn narwhal]

1% chance so luck, or if you level up a specific curio to lvl 3-4

[tacit nest]

what are best to start with if u aint got any good ones

[thorn narwhal]

you're forced to random craft at the start, and if you get lvl 1 on a good curio that you want you can start leveling it

[steep patio]

does anyone have a video of them using tempered essence?

[fierce light]

To awaken an extreme?

[hallow yew]

This week on wednesday we have a event about Tempered inferno mode

[zealous patrol]

great

[hallow yew]

Keep an eye on your fatigue levels.

[zealous patrol]

i hit 2.4k on like friday though

😭

waiting for reset

i didn't spend all of it on inferno sadly

only got 2 trash reds

[timid stirrup]

wednesday fatigue will reset

[fierce light]

Yeah i burned my fatigue the first day lol

First time in a while I pulled an all nighter

[steep patio]

same

[fierce light]

They did put quite the gap between Legendary Curios and Awakened ones. Glad I managed to get the Bell I wanted though right before I ran out

[timid stirrup]

this is the bell i was able to make right before capping fatigue. what is the other awakened stat?

i need an awakened yin now so i can have the luck bonus

[zealous patrol]

Isn’t it Thursday

[zealous patrol]

Hand it over

[amber terrace]

which one is better on bell?

[fierce light]

5 hits to trigger.

• Better against 1-2 enemies.
  +100% Elemental Burst.
• Better against 3+ enemies.

[fierce light]

Next reset is on <t:1745438400:F>.

[amber terrace]

ehm... i forget % scale from quality curio

ex extreme 900%

can u note it?

[fierce light]

• Epic = 100%
• Legendary = 200%
• Extreme = 300%

[amber terrace]

all curio?

[fierce light]

Epic → Legendary = x2
Epic → Extreme = x3
Legendary → Extreme = x1.5

[fierce light]

Yeah their base multipliers are increased that way.

[zealous patrol]

thursday for me

i basically capped fatigue in 2 days

[zealous patrol]

i got 2, 1 crafted and 1 dropped

and they are the same one

and both got the same 5th attribute

and all the subs are equally shit

[glossy dragon]

Is nirritis normal really the only way to level ur sense up this shit is killing me

[zealous patrol]

at the start of the patch like 700 - 1120 i did the domain

enigma

normal keys

cause i had a few

alr had a set of usable jades so i can do it solo

and when i was like sense 0 - 700 its also enigma or normal levels

cause niriti wasn't a thing

[glossy dragon]

Ah yea im leveling up a new acc and im barely sense 760-770

[zealous patrol]

then you prob dont have the keys needed for enigma runs

but if you do and you have teammates that can clear it fast/ can do it your self

it would be faster than niriti

[glossy dragon]

Yes sadly not i have like 4-5 of esch keys

Somehow i was able to get to plat 1 on yamas abyss so i got a couple

[zealous patrol]

ye thats not enough

[zealous patrol]

we got a couple hundred

to do it

[glossy dragon]

Holy shit 😭

[zealous patrol]

took like 70 or 80 keys for me i think

700-1100

honestly forgot

[glossy dragon]

Ok than thanks ! Guess ill just keep doing nirritis

[zealous patrol]

too long ago

[zealous patrol]

gl

remember your weekly domains

they give a few levels

and are very fast

[hollow escarp]

Also rmb to spend the weekly 1 medal to buy the lvl orb thingy in showdown store

You get it back

Those stack overtime for new hero

[tranquil palm]

the omnius rock dude in nightscream whats the secret to him? he just keeps resetting

[fickle linden]

rock has 4 phases

kill all

[amber terrace]

5 stacks fire so good

[distant rapids]

How to get the yellow-green box that gives souljade extra attribute?

[tranquil beacon]

There is a weekly quest where you get 2 of them as reward. But other than that it's just a RNG drop. You'll get a lot of them over time

[distant rapids]

Thank you!

[balmy coral]

Does fatigue affect the exp u get?

I noticed that exceeding 2k fatigue I get 100 less exp now

[bold ice]

why on earth is 1219 the max

its so unsettling

[fierce light]

I wanna see the number. 😆 21,000% Attack scaling is crazy.

[woven ingot]

I never paid attention to it, but fatigue modifying the rewards, it could be that exp / BP exp / weapon exp could be treated as a "reward".
I don't think weapon xp changes with fatigue as I never noticed it changing. But could be that account exp changes.

[fierce light]

Potential/Battlepass XP? Yes

[balmy coral]

BP yes

[magic prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/brittany-broski-broski-report-broski-nation-youtube-meme-gif-5069420546992577672

[balmy coral]

I see. Thanks Im tryna grind showdown BP

[magic prairie]

Did u give up pvp?

[balmy coral]

Ye too sweaty and already asura. Learning showdown rn for a change of pace.

[magic prairie]

Bruh sweaty wth

U get pops?

[balmy coral]

SEA PC lobby is smth else.

I have the normal and showdown BP to grind and I can do both in showdown.

[amber terrace]

what number?

[fierce light]

Damage number

[amber terrace]

u mean this?

[astral widget]

who want play inferno?

[tacit nest]

anyone wanna help w paragon 14&15

i alr got 16 with a group

[fierce light]

Yes, nice!

[tacit nest]

is iron nut lotus good for ice?

[zealous patrol]

I’m still using thunder and ice lotus for inferno

Should I start working on a poison set?

[amber terrace]

yes

[tacit nest]

whats better in the game rn ice or poison?

[thorn narwhal]

Is that 169k on the same hit or different

[fierce light]

Poison is the strongest in Tempered Inferno. Can't beat 10 Venomous Blossom Blasts per Poison Blast.

[fierce light]

No. Only Thunder atm.

[thorn narwhal]

Did you confirm it's counting each tick or not for the bell

Also what was the max toxic blast dmg?

[fierce light]

Same hit. It's Tarka's nuke.

[fierce light]

It's only counting each individual Blossom Blast.

[thorn narwhal]

Now that's interesting

[fierce light]

390% (with 8 Windfalls),
450% (with 12 Windfalls).

[thorn narwhal]

Wonder if it's worth investing in any curio attribute buffers now instead of element

[fierce light]

Hmm?

[thorn narwhal]

No I meant the blast in-game number of 6 toxin

[thorn narwhal]

Aka skill dmg, melee charged, etc invest in those if they buff the curio nuke

[tacit nest]

tempered?

with the fiery bell and withered?

[fierce light]

Oh idk the hardest it can hit in-game, however, I do have their attack scalings:

• Tarka's Explosion (5 Stacks): 21,000%.
• Toxin Blast (6 Stacks): 4,800%

[fierce light]

Yeah the 4th stat you'd want is Skill DMG Bonus for Tarka and Tessa's Curio. Behind Attack, DMG to Bosses & Elemental Accumulation Rate. Otherwise, you go for Weapon DMG Bonus.

[fierce light]

Yes

[thorn narwhal]

Ah okay

[thorn narwhal]

Thought so, thx

It's really annoying we still don't have attributes testing in training, to see how element accumulation affects each hero's rotation, maybe combined with skill dmg bonus feria can proc element with just her skill now!

[river canopy]

,3320

[fleet aurora]

who do i use shadow elixir i can understand i press and nothing happen

[hidden creek]

who?
what?

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lick-conk-conky-kitty-gif-18021368

[fierce light]

It's just short of being able to on Ice build, but the ticks from Lotus Impacts should set it off.

Sort of like how it works for Tessa with Skill + Vertical 1st Charge

Actually yeah, +30% Elemental Accumulation puts Feria's Skill at ~39.15 Elemental Accumulation on Ice build.

Tessa’s Skill + Vertical 1st Charge sits at ~39.02 without the 30%.

[thorn narwhal]

So it's actually doable, I assume thats even without the 24% skill dmg bonus, can't wait to get a curio that has both legendaries next fatigue reset and test how it plays with each hero

[fierce light]

I could probably just math it out since I have the values on the spreadsheet.

[thorn narwhal]

Would be helpful, we appreciate you doing the math yeah as always

[covert olive]

Can someone please share a thunder and ice build? new to showdown

Oh i see pings

[fierce light]

Rotation Effects of +30% Elemental Accumulation (Part 1)

Viper Ning
Ice Blast:

• From: Skill → Horizontal 1st Charge → Horizontal 1st Charge

• ~3.85s

• To: Skill → Horizontal 2nd Charge

• ~2.95s

Poison Blast:

• From: Skill → Horizontal 2nd Charge → Horizontal 2nd Charge (+Lotus Impacts)

• ~5.08s

• To: Skill → Horizontal 2nd Charge → Horizontal 1st Charge

• ~4.47s

Feria Shen
Ice Blast:

• From: Skill → Vertical 1st Charge

• ~2.63s

• To: Skill (+Lotus Impacts)

• ~1.33s

Poison Blast:

• From: Skill → Vertical 1st Charge → Vertical 1st Charge

• ~3.93s

• To: Skill → Vertical 1st Charge (+Lotus Impacts)

• ~2.63s

Tianhai
Ice Blast

• From: Vertical 1st Charge → Vertical 1st Charge → Aegis-Break Martial Skill

• ~5.1s

• To: Vertical 1st Charge → Vertical 1st Charge

• ~4.2s

Poison Blast

• From: Vertical 1st Charge → Vertical 1st Charge → Vertical 1st Charge

• ~6.3s

• To: Vertical 1st Charge → Vertical 1st Charge → Vertical 1st Charge [2-Hit Cancel]

• ~5.9s

[brave pagoda]

new to showdown and just unlocked enigma only at 900 sense. Can some1 explain the objective? LIke should I only aim to battle the bosses and not focus on enhancement progress for all the little mobs chest

[fierce light]

Rotation Effects of +30% Elemental Accumulation (Part 2)

Temulch & Yoto Hime
Ice Blast:

• From: Vertical 2nd Charge → Vertical 2nd Charge

• ~5.3s

• To: Vertical 1st Charge → Vertical 1st Charge

• ~4.26s

Poison Blast:

• From: Vertical 1st Charge → Vertical 1st Charge → Vertical 1st Charge

• ~6.4s

• To: Vertical 2nd Charge → Vertical 2nd Charge

• ~5.3s

Tarka Ji
Ice Blast:

• From: Skill → Vertical 2nd Charge

• ~3.47s

• To: Skill → Vertical 1st Charge

• ~2.62s

Poison Blast:

• From: Skill → Vertical 2nd Charge → Vertical 1st Charge

• ~5.08s

• • OR Skill → Vertical 2nd Charge → Explosion

• ~3.47s

• To: Skill → Vertical 2nd Charge

• ~3.47s

Kurumi
Ice Blast:

• From: Horizontal 2nd Charge → Horiztonal 1st Charge → Aegis-Break Martial Skill

• ~4.58s

• To: Horizontal 2nd Charge → Uncharged Horizontal

• ~3.93s

Poison Blast:

• From: Horizontal 2nd Charge → Horizontal 2nd Charge

• ~4.86s

• To: Horizontal 2nd Charge → Horizontal 2nd Charge

• ~4.86s

[tranquil beacon]

Objective is to kill all 9 bosses. To get the boss to spawn you need to kill mobs until the percentage reaches 100%. Killing the boss also contributes to the percentage.

To prevent running around the map all the time, the strategy is to kill mobs until the first boss spawns and then another 70%. Then go kill the boss. Because killing the boss also gives % a new boss will spawn at the same place immediately. Rinse and repeat until all bosses are down 🙂

Can't remember if the 70% is correct, it's been a while since I done enigma, but it's around there.

[timid stirrup]

if doing it solo and its topaz u can go as high as 80-85%. 70% will guarantee that 3 bosses will spawn 1 after the other after each death

[fierce light]

91% iirc will make 4 bosses spawn in a row for Solo Topaz. But yeah avoid going past 74% while boss is still alive for Trios. 30-40s are wasted from having to travel each time it moves.

[thorn narwhal]

That's awesome you just made it even better having each hero's best rotation, will for sure need that on site

Altho for kurumi I use horizontal 2nd charge > vertical 1st charge > martial skill. idk if that saves much

[fierce light]

I'll do the later half later, but it'll be on the spreadsheet for now

[fierce light]

Technically that is quicker (~0.3s), it is certainly a good option

[brave pagoda]

tysm

[woeful monolith]

Just a little 65 Million Cannon smack

[fierce light]

Rotation Effects of +30% Elemental Accumulation (Part 3)

Valda Cui
Ice Blast:

• From: Dragonslayer → Ne Zha's Might (+Lotus Impacts)

• ~4.1s

• To: Dragonslayer → Ne Zha's Might

• ~4.1s

Poison Blast:

• From: Dragonslayer → Ne Zha's Might → Chain Sweeping

• ~5.9s

• To: Dragonslayer → Ne Zha's Might → Uncharged Horizontal

• ~5.3s

Yueshan
Ice Blast:

• From: Skill → Vertical 1st Charge

• ~2.25s

• To: Skill → Uncharged Vertical (+Lotus Impacts)

• ~1.77s

Poison Blast:

• From: Skill → Vertical 1st Charge → Vertical 1st Charge

• ~3.77s

• To: Skill → Vertical 1st Charge → Uncharged Horizontal

• ~3.17s

Matari
Ice Blast:

• From: Skill → Aegis-Break Martial Skill × 3

• ~3.08s

• To: Skill → Aegis-Break Martial Skill × 2 (+Lotus Impacts)

• ~2.23s

Poison Blast:

• From: Skill → Aegis-Break Martial Skill × 5

• ~4.57s

• To: Skill → Aegis-Break Martial Skill × 4

• ~3.72s

Wuchen
Ice Blast:

• From: Horizontal Charged Attack × 3 → Aegis-Break Martial Skill × 2

• ~6.07s

• To: Horizontal Charged Attack × 2 → Aegis-Break Martial Skill × 2

• ~4.6s

Poison Blast:

• From: Horizontal Charged Attack × 3 → Aegis-Break Martial Skill × 3

• ~6.9s

• To: Horizontal Charged Attack × 3 → Aegis-Break Martial Skill × 2

• ~6.07s

Tessa
Ice Blast:

• From: Skill → Vertical 1st Charge (+Lotus Impacts)

• ~2.28s

• To: Skill → Vertical 1st Charge

• ~2.28s

Poison Blast:

• From: Skill → Vertical 2nd Charge → Uncharged Horizontal

• ~4.25s

• To: Skill → Vertical 2nd Charge

• ~3.05s

Ziping Ying
Ice Blast:

• From: Dragonslayer → Razor Swift

• ~1.93s

• To: Dragonslayer → Razor Swift

• ~1.93s

Poison Blast:

• From: Dragonslayer → Razor Swift

• ~2.48s

• To: Dragonslayer → Razor Swift

• ~2.48s

[fickle linden]

valda not making out the bottom with this one

[fierce light]

Probably should make this into a table to so it's easier to read at a glance.

[thorn narwhal]

Valda

wouldn't zipping be closer to ~1.50s, as it needs less hits with razor swift

[fierce light]

Yeah it takes the first 2 hits after dragonslayer to activate it

Dragonslayer does have a bit of end-lag though, even when accounting for the instant one after a skill there's a delay

[thorn narwhal]

true, feels laggy and buggy sometimes

[fierce light]

Here's the chart:

• (+Lotus Impacts) meaning it will proc if Lotus are active.

[thorn narwhal]

wonderful !!

feria is gonna be crazy again, specially that her skill never gets interrupted

[fierce light]

About to test the Feria one rn. Feria's does indeed work.

[thorn narwhal]

maybe Yeushan is next on the list, but with 24% bonus, to be Skill (+Lotus Impact)

[fierce light]

Oh wait

Yeah Yueshan's Ice + Bonus is supposed to have (+Lotus Impact) on it.

If Feria's works though, his definitely should. They have about the same amount of Accumulation left for Lotus to fill.

[dapper nebula]

I'm getting dps checked in the new inferno map

Is there something I'm missing? Or is it just gear gap

Usually wave 5 if I don't have like 200 seconds on the timer it's a wipe

[fickle linden]

hard to say without knowing your gear

it's end game content, you want end game build for it

[woven ingot]

I don’t get how yo read those. You use skill + charged as usual to get a proc. Then you go for skill plus something. But as you used your skill with the boss under elemental cd now your skill won’t get back and you re doomed

So what are those rotations about? I m clearly missing something.

Or is it that you hope each time an add will be around to do an elemental proc?

[fierce light]

Yeah Tempered Inferno is even more end-game than Enigma Peak. So if you can't clear that comfortably, then it's going to be pretty hard to clear Tempered Inferno

[fierce light]

Those aren't the full loop rotations, just the elemental accumulation rotation. They don't work in Tempered Inferno though.

[dapper nebula]

Is it worth farming early on? The curios seem busted

Stats for reference, only 20% moderation

[fierce light]

You can't awaken any Curios until you can beat the 7th wave. That's when most of them become really powerful.

[dapper nebula]

Oh so not worth till I can clear wave 7 reliablely

[thorn narwhal]

i mean just for the attack and other attributes bonuses it is definately worth it

[fierce light]

Pretty much, cause you can't get the Yin-Yang bonus either without Awakening. Aside from a bug.

[fickle linden]

it's still worth so you can level up your crafting

[dapper nebula]

cuz it still drops jades. But is it a big difference vs enigma peak?

[thorn narwhal]

it scales well to the fatigue you consume so if you clear 4-5 rounds that's same fatigue as nirriti and somewhat same reward

is not hard to get the bare minimum, even clearing just 3 rounds would work

[fickle linden]

peak with gold key is like 2x jades/fatigue of nirriti right?

well anyway first thing first get your sense to 1120

Peak gold keys @ 100% rewards 0.533 jades/fatigue
Nirriti hard @ 100% rewards 0.267 jades/fatigue
Inferno 4 waves @ 100% rewards 0.237 jades/fatigue

according to dark's spreadsheet

[dapper nebula]

thanks

[raven flame]

Best way to quickly raise sense? I don't even care if it takes gold. I'm stuck around 745

[fair shuttle]

Anyone wanna carry me in enigma peak and new event stuff

[fierce light]

Unlock Nirriti's Ruins, run that until you're at like ~900 Sense, then run Enigma Topaz.

[languid kite]

need carry on doom domain

[dapper nebula]

oh wow doing 3 bosses gives 60% of the rewards for enigma

[zealous patrol]

i hadn't done enigma topaz in so long

started farming topaz at around level 400-500 sense i think

then 700-1100 was also topaz

[fickle linden]

topaz is weird. no reason to full clear it, and 3bossing it takes forever to burn all your fatigue

[zealous patrol]

after that niriti released

[zealous patrol]

yes thats how i did it

for the first bit

then full runs after sense higher

[fierce light]

When you're new to the game you won't have that many keys to burn on 3-Bossing

[fickle linden]

i hope they rework fatigue costs for old modes next season

75 fatigue for inferno is nice

[zealous patrol]

ofc

i hope farming normal levels become viable one day

[zealous patrol]

still can't solo clear without a poison set though

i only have a ice blast set and a TLS which i converted to thunder lotus

just turned all the hp into thunder damage

still got 2 scorching though

[fickle linden]

didn't ice build get new lotus jade recently too? similar to venomous lotus?

can't remember it's name or what it does

[zealous patrol]

yes

[fickle linden]

i wonder if it's any use in inferno

[zealous patrol]

i forgot

it just gives like 20% attack i thought

[timid stirrup]

is plm better than ilm in tempered inferno when no poison blast dmg bonus omen is involved?

[fierce light]

Frostbound Lotus, it's just an alternative to Sub-Zero Seal.

[zealous patrol]

better than the 15%

[fickle linden]

meh

[fierce light]

As long as you're properly grouping enemies, yes.

[timid stirrup]

i switch 2 my plm when the poison bonus omen is up. when ice bonus is up i switch 2 ilm

[fickle linden]

i do better with plm whatever the omens are

dont even look at them when i play

just plm everyday

[zealous patrol]

i feel like the tarka curio does no damage 😭

[timid stirrup]

does plm beat ilm when the ice bonus omen is up?

[fierce light]

3 Blossom Blasts per Ice Blast, vs 10 Venomous Blossom Blasts per Poison Blast

No competition

[fickle linden]

poison just better (oh how i waited to say that line )

[fierce light]

Combined with Extreme Bell and it's going to do crazy chain reactions.

[zealous patrol]

farming a poison set still

[timid stirrup]

ive been waiting for that 2 b true as well

[zealous patrol]

not looking great

got my 8th scorching in a row

😭

and im out of mats

and out of fatigue

[fierce light]

Reason why I'm glad to have secondary progression, cause that rare grind is soul crushing.

[timid stirrup]

does this also include other modes and not just tempered inferno?

[zealous patrol]

niriti doesn't need jades

abyss is abyss

depends on skill

im still at abyss 14

hadn't done it yet

[fickle linden]

can't wait to try plm in peak mobbing once i get all my curio stuff sorted and can do 150% fatigue in peak again

[fickle linden]

for the first time since long time actually waiting for fatigue refresh

[zealous patrol]

same

i would be at the pc 25 hours perday grinding fatigue if there is no cap

[fickle linden]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-eric-gamer-energy-drink-drinking-gif-6645301

[zealous patrol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786025543698087967/1363450880833093642/IMG_1043.gif

if i dont have poison set yet

do yall recommend i run a 0 mod 100 posion damage set

or should i stay with thunder or ice lotus

[fierce light]

Yeah, Mod isn't as important there unless you're using Kurumi.

[fickle linden]

try it

even mediocre plm should do better than maxed ilm

if anyone has video of them doing inferno with thunder lotus build i would like to see

[twin ledge]

I actually tried it with me missing a little over 100 divine and was keeping up with ice

[fierce light]

Don't forget, Fugui gave a hint about something on reset.

[fickle linden]

already did, but thanks for reminding 😅

i will probably forget this reminder also!

[thorn narwhal]

is either this or this

[hearty carbon]

just switched from playing tarka to zping, this feels like cheating 😭😭😭

[zealous patrol]

Tarkas is even less important

The sheer number of enemies here

Tarka ult will like never end

[fierce light]

Yeah true

[zealous patrol]

so my playstyle for TL so far is just tarka

1 fire ball triggers the thunder

then wait 1 second and repeat

[fierce light]

If Moderation worked from Thunderpull, I think Thunder builds would be so much more viable

[zealous patrol]

tarka doesn't require mod at all

in the ult

you can just infinitely spam fireballs with 0 mod

and i think everyone else use the ice set

[fierce light]

Yeah ik, I just mean it would be viable on more heroes than just him and Ziping atm

[amber terrace]

this is fatal anima?

[woeful monolith]

Im not sure I understand?

[amber terrace]

i mean that dmg from this

[woeful monolith]

Oh, I dont believe so. Earlier in the match like Round 6 I hit a Cannon shot on a group of mobs and it did similar damage but to each one of them. So my entire screen had numbers across it. I wasn't recording so I started and it did it again on the boss fight.

[amber terrace]

below 10% it will 1 hit

[woven musk]

hi sorry to ask, i just came back to the game after ~1 year of break, whats the fastest way to level up sense level?

im 840 atm

[lone umbra]

nirriti ruin hard/normal mode

[hidden creek]

i'm right here, why the fuck is there still a mob ignored me and went straight for the soul furnace?

what the fuck is wrong with this mode mobs aggro?

[woven musk]

is there a drop amount difference between hard and normal? thx

[lone umbra]

mobs are smart.. you fight my boss i fight yours

[hidden creek]

that one single mob slip cost me so much time

[lone umbra]

I see you got tessa curio

[hidden creek]

it's a gold 😭

i got 0 usable red

funny that i get 3 reds from random crafting with 1% chance
but 10 crafts on level 3 with 20% chance for red gave me nothing

[hollow escarp]

Should i span till i get fiery bell red first or just random

Got fiery to lvl 2 almost 3 alr

[hidden creek]

get red bell and glory asap

[lone umbra]

i never did solo though can't get past eerie one boss

[hidden creek]

same, i can't get pass last stage but i'm not dedicated to showdown so it's like, whatever

[lone umbra]

same not dedicated to showdown it is just fun

[balmy coral]

Tomorrow is fatigue reset right

I can't get anymore exp to get showdown coins from the pass.

[hollow escarp]

ok ish?

no accumulation tho

[hidden creek]

no element accumulation = bad

[viscid wraith]

^

[hollow escarp]

im so close to those 40 jade disks

[bronze wharf]

their boss

[safe umbra]

This moderation reducie skill cooldown is so broken, i Wonder why they dont fix it 🤣

[hidden creek]

mod became meta with the introduce of lotus soul jades

and some character changes

before that literally only viper run mod

[fierce light]

Yeah that's why I try to fight at the front edge of the spawn to catch any stragglers. I also keep an eye out and snipe them with ranged before they pass the barrier.

[fierce light]

No Attack, no Elemental Accumulation & low DMG to Bosses. Pretty bad, but don't delete it ofc till you get a better one of that Awakening.

[fierce light]

They intentionally buffed other heroes' skills so Moderation was viable on more than just Viper Ning. Before it was more of a grief to get it.

[fierce light]

https://youtu.be/_G97Ip5uyYc?si=9HvzwKpX8Cn2774V

They cleared it solo with Wuchen using it in place of Noxious Blast.

[hidden creek]

can only ditch noxious blast if you get the poison omen

[fierce light]

Pestilent Pool would still activate without it.

[hidden creek]

wait a minute

isn't it we can also ditch pestilent pool when we got poison omen?

[fierce light]

Don't think you'd want to do that as it would cut down your Blossom Blasts & Toxin Blasts quite a bit

[hidden creek]

why

[fickle linden]

the timer before inferno game starts after you choose character is way too long

hopefully they remove it next patch

[hidden creek]

oh

poison omen gives you the poison pool but don't gives these effects?

i thought the effects is the poison pool effects not the jade? as in, if we can make poison pool we gets the effects, doesn't matter where the poison pool comes from?

[bold ice]

does anyone else consider this to be an absolute stingy joke of a redeem?

[hidden creek]

always have been lmao

[fickle linden]

yeah just go for tae or something

[hidden creek]

but these event shop usually allows you to get everything

if you don't miss any dailies

[fickle linden]

would like to see elixirs and rebirth stones as rewards for showdown events more than shards/random epic and legendary jades

and more than 2 golden keys

[hidden creek]

elixir as reward is super rare

[bold ice]

yeah wouldnt that be nice to actually get something useful

[woven ingot]

They always had troubles with maths, that one yellow jade is worth 4 purple ones. And that they are worth respectively 4 and 1 fragment.

[fierce light]

Oh I don't know if the Poison Pool affects enemies from the Omen.

[fierce light]

Slightly more value than getting the random Epic Gifts

[woven ingot]

And they love to « sell » fragments in events for a lot. And like 4-5 of them only. Do they have any idea what we do with 5 fragments? Nothing absolutely nothing. Need at least 100 to get anything done. Like literally anything 😂

[woven ingot]

I agree. 30 long and very boring seconds for … well no reason ^^´

[fickle linden]

not even 6 fragments so you can recast 3 times, but 5 so you can only do 2 and are left with 1 shard in your inventory

🧠

and yeah not like you can do much with 2-3 recasts 😅

[twin ledge]

lol that’s actually funny I ran out of fragments and I had changed my thunder proof stat from hp to divine to test thunder lotus and that redeem legit helped me change it back to hp so I can my thunder burn on stage 16

For once it was helpful

Do wish they made it a little cheaper or gave more

Like each time u buy maybe 10 fragments each or 5

[bold ice]

its a damn event

and we're already very limited with fatigue

[fickle linden]

curios, inferno mode and new showdown event seems to have made atleast some players return to showdown and some new players to try it

alot of people asking fastest way to level sense since the new patch

[north lynx]

I knew it I knew it was goated. That orderline makes allot of sense

Focusing on more bloom procs

I love the massive noxious blast proc but

With venomous being insane just procing it as much as possible seems correct

My thunder lotus scorch is at 9 scorching so it isn't viable, copper ward scorch is at 12 but I've been low framey this past week and it's making me miss double parries that I don't in yamas

So I think I'll grind with that varient seems strong

[fierce light]

Do keep in mind, for single targets you're trading 20% of Toxified Stacks and 25% of the Blossom Blasts when you take out Noxious Blast. Even when going against 2 targets, when Bell activates:

1) +2 Lotus from Noxious Blast
2) +4 Lotus from Pestilent Pool
3) +1-2 Lotus from Infectious Touch

2 + 4 + 1 = 7
2 + 4 + 2 = 8```
- If you're able to get Infectious Touch off twice, then you can activate Extreme Bell. Bell's 5-Hit variant will ofc activate regardless of Noxious Blast, **but** you're still trading 25%-28.5% of the Blossom Blasts.

There's still the +20% Attack, but at max build, it ends up being around a 10% DPS increase. Depends on if the attack you get from the Essence Furnace is additive or not as well.

[flat smelt]

i have a question, have someone know buff effect from curio set ?

[fierce light]

The Yin-Yang Harmony effect?

• +2000 Luck for yourself.
• +1000 Luck for your teammates.
• Does not apply in Nirriti's Ruins.

[flat smelt]

anything else?

and how to get the effect ?

[fierce light]

From having an Awakened Extreme Curio of Yang and Yin.

Awakened meaning fully enhanced.

Okay so I tested it, Tempered Inferno reduces your base Elemental Accumulation by 43%. Meaning you'll need to apply 75.4% more Elemental Accumulation to activate an Elemental Burst. Close to double the amount of damage to apply it.

[flat smelt]

Where can I find this information?

[fierce light]

They don't really explain how it works in-game.

[thorn narwhal]

i have been holding onto this for a while, maybe this one round will be the one to give me a good extreme

[woven ingot]

Meaning with a +30% accumulation on your Curio you're still 13% late?

[fierce light]

Nope, even worse since it affects your base amount. For example on Poison it has x1.7 with Hydro's Bound. The reduction brings that down to x0.969 (slightly worse than having not having Hydro's Bound in a different mission). +30% would bring that up to 1.14, which is still pretty bad.

Even with Defuse Solidification active, you'd accumulate element slower than outside the mission.

TL-DR:

Poison: x1.7 -> x0.969
Poison (+30%): x2 -> x1.14
Ice: x2.175 -> x1.24
Ice (+30%): x2.61 -> x1.488

[fierce light]

Manticore AI is so dumb

Top of the food chain, but scared to get close

[amber terrace]

yea

[cinder stirrup]

which one is better to use ?

i have no idea whats blossom blasts xd

[woven ingot]

You're making a point here. Half of the time Manticore doesn't want to engage personaly and will just spam things from afar.
That being said, if ranged wasn't total trash, I would also use range safely instead of getting my face smacked.

[fierce light]

Left against 3+ enemies, right against 1-2.

[cinder stirrup]

whats blossom blasts

[cinder stirrup]

ah this

okey okey

[ancient kiln]

how do I increase the frost value in test of strength?

i need it for yushan shadow

i don`t understand how it works

[amber terrace]

watch wiki video

[ancient kiln]

who i find this ?

[amber terrace]

[fierce light]

Narakapedia → Showdown Souljade

[fierce light]

Sub-Zero Seal, Frostbound Lotus and Depths Blast all increase your Frostbite in some way. I'd only recommend one of the first 2 though.

[ancient kiln]

okay thank you

[fierce light]

It's in game when you open the pause/settings menu.

Narakapedia → Showdown Souljade

[shrewd basin]

So how to y’all get around the bosses that have frame trap combos? Just defuse defuse Dodge?

[whole minnow]

Hello, is there a viable tempered inferno Tarka build?

[fierce light]

Yeah usually defuse and dodge when the iframe is about to run out.

[fierce light]

Lot of builds he can use, just have to land your fireballs well and he can stay in his ultimate

[turbid agate]

i just got this beauty

[fierce light]

Lucky mfer

[turbid agate]

fr fr. got like 4 fails before awakening lol

[fierce light]

Funny that you want it to fail

[turbid agate]

i didnt, are u suppose to?

i did get lucky tho, every fail, gave me a better attribute

[fierce light]

It gets rid of your lowest attribute whenever it fails

So you got lucky

It'll cost more Tempered Essence, but that's pretty easy to get.

[twin ledge]

Now I know why my Tessa one wouldn’t show cause ur taking all my luck

[fierce light]

I did get lucky with the number of extremes I got though

Got both of Tessa's Awakenings and both of the Bells'.

[timid stirrup]

i wish i was as lucky as u guys

i have 1 tarka extreme 1 bell extreme and 1 tessa extreme

[turbid agate]

what resets at the end of the season? we arent losing our curios right?

[timid stirrup]

need a damn yin extreme so i can have the synergy bonus