👾┃showdown

[shrewd basin]

Decent musket run here

[fierce light]

Yeah, would be better if it scaled like Element Rings did.

But seems to all be additive bonuses.

[weary plaza]

what s the best build atm?

[shrewd basin]

Meta is iLM right dark

[weary plaza]

i m kinda noob can you explain a bit?

[shrewd basin]

@fierce light you have been summoned to explain showdown

XD

[shrewd basin]

Tbh I’m not the one to ask XD

[north lynx]

Ice for Trios, thunder scorch for solos. Poisen on some characters.

The safest bet is to go Ice

It's not that far behind thunder scorch and infinitely easier

[fierce light]

ILM = __I__ce __L__otus __M__od

It's a build that primarily does Ice damage alongside Lotus damage and makes use of the [Moderation] attribute to repeatedly use your Skills. Really strong on heroes with hard hitting Skills in particular.

It consists of the Souljades:

1) Successive Ice Blast
2) Frozen Blast
3) Elemental Lotus
4) Ghastbloom
5) Sub-Zero Seal | Frostbound Lotus
6) Tundra Might

[weary plaza]

yeah i think i m missing half of them

i m playing with wuchen and a poison build i m just trying to progress

[fierce light]

Poison build is really good for starting off because of its high initial damage.

But wouldn't recommend investing too heavily into it right this second.

[weary plaza]

I m not investing anything

just weaksouljades to lv up

[weary plaza]

here s everything i have

i don t even know how to use them

and this is the build

[fierce light]

Yeah so far you don't much material to really do anything crazy yet, but you do have the basis of a Poison Lotus build. Only thing that could be changed is Elemental Lotus for Miasma Drive or Venemous Lotus if you have it.

[weary plaza]

i don t have any of them

[weary plaza]

but i have everything here except tundra

should i switch?

[fierce light]

Tundra is pretty crucial to Ice build

Without it, you mine as well run Poison.

[weary plaza]

and if i get , i should switch?

[fierce light]

After a bit of investment yeah. By investment I mean getting a few Attack and Ice Blast DMG attributes on it, since Poison starts out stronger than Ice, it just lacks the activation rate to keep up at higher investment.

[weary plaza]

2 more questions if you don t mind

frist how do i get tundra and secound i saw a guy on yt having somekind of build that kills bosses in 0.20 sec by countering some lighting strikes

[fierce light]

1. Tundra Might drops from Nirriti's Ruins • Nightscream | Legend or Enigma Peak.
2. That is the Thunder Scorch (TS) build. Very expensive build to start, but is mainly only good for Yama's Abyss at the moment.

[weary plaza]

thx

[topaz night]

No but can i have his face card

[weary plaza]

you want the wuchen face?XD

here you go

[topaz night]

Yes tysm

[hidden creek]

https://youtu.be/ajW86kwV-KQ?t=1591

give showdown raids like this pls 🥹

[rough gate]

dfdfd\\

is person still good ,mim using it paragon 9

[fierce light]

I think that was probably the intention with Heroes Assemble and tested it out with Buried Giant. But judging how bad the delay is in Heroes Assemble, it probably wouldn't work out having that many players.

[hidden creek]

it's a shame seeing they got everything to build a proper pve mode yet they ended up with whatever tf we're having rn

[fierce light]

Poison is somewhat viable to clear with, but still falls behind Ice in most cases. This will be even more so after next update where they fix the bug with Successive Ice Blast in Trios.

[fierce light]

Hoping the new mission type is interesting, but sounds like an escort mission from Overwatch

[hidden creek]

even if it is it's still something that you farm to get this icurio thing then forget about it again

[fierce light]

Might be a long term farm depending on how bad the RNG is. RNG to get the curio we want and to upgrade it likely.

Hope they do eventually expand the Potential Tree

[empty rampart]

Good old dn, they don’t make games like this anymore 🫠

[hidden creek]

i miss the lightning pace unlimited combat man

🥹

[empty rampart]

Yeah best non target system so far I’ve seen, but tbh pvp became bad with all ex skills lol
Any alchemist just gave frame drops

But still best pve imo

[hidden creek]

yeah old cap dn best pve game i ever played

then game turned to shit with all the p2w, paywalled and gacha stuffs and terrible class design

[empty rampart]

Yeah, Naraka had a lot of potential to make smth like this, but unfortunately we get 3 min stages in a half a year

[hidden creek]

imagine a fight with naraka showdown bosses on DN gameplay settings

they had everything necessary to make it happens

[empty rampart]

Kinda, still it’s just unfortunately the dmg output in pve just 1 same combo/move

Feel bad cause I have Mac, and u can’t run DN on VM sadly

[fierce light]

There's maintenance today?

[hidden creek]

23:00 UTC

[fierce light]

Ah okay so at <t:1743458400:t>. Wonder when they'll put up the patch notes. Not expecting anything big, but just wondering if they did more than fix the Ice bug.

[woven ingot]

What does DN stands for?

[hidden creek]

Dragon nest

Old game

[woven ingot]

Thanks. The name doesn’t ring a bell.

[hidden creek]

Yeah issa boomer game

[woven ingot]

I m sadfully probably way older than that game. Than all pc games to be precise.

[hidden creek]

What's ur first 3 online game migosha?

[woven ingot]

Hard question. I d think starcraft. There may have been something online before that but my memory doesn’t rewind that far.

[hearty rivet]

NetWars? 🙃

[heavy gulch]

as far i recall starcraft was after warcraft or around same time, and yeah was online but multiplayer RTS mode

i loved to play protos and zergs

[round glacier]

Command&conquer red alert

[amber terrace]

600 gold

[fierce light]

Short update for Showdown

[amber terrace]

noice

[amber terrace]

btw no new curio system?

[fierce light]

No, wasn't in the test server either

[raw magnet]

https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1356292601426481292

[amber terrace]

sad

[tribal yoke]

Beside Kurumi, who else uses the crossbow?

[hidden creek]

yoto

and zip

[fierce light]

Wonder if they'll add the flame thrower

[hidden creek]

oh i wish

so i can get it to 25

but probably won't happens

same with the bloodripper

[fierce light]

Blood ripper I doubt since it only has one attack lol

Maybe a special drop/pick up in a later mission

[amber terrace]

[fickle linden]

new gimmick stage where you mow down trash mobs with flamethower/bloodripper and then fight the boss with your character weapons

[woven ingot]

They could use it for an event. As long as it allow us to level it.

[hearty rivet]

Both weapons could be fitting for a zombie evil ent apocalypse themed suffer no demons.

[fierce light]

Now that I think about it, I wonder if they're adding a buff to ranged weapons to counter the flying bosses. It's going to be a nightmare for controller players, but wouldn't be surprised.

[amber terrace]

haha

[hearty rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/the-what-smile-whut-weird-stare-gif-16592004

flying bosses o_o;;

(Matari meta!!!)

[stoic rapids]

Did they remake tarka ji showdown skill?.?

[fierce light]

No

[stoic rapids]

After seeing this, i thought they will do something with him

[fierce light]

That's a part of the upcoming Curio System.

[amber terrace]

[balmy harness]

https://tenor.com/view/deez-nuts-nutz-deez-nuts-deez-nutz-gif-9400492730817105958

Had to do it, I'm sorry

[shrewd basin]

[lucid ore]

curio system in april, hopefully it's next one after this

[amber terrace]

sad

[tardy sorrel]

is matchmaking just dead in showdown?

[hidden creek]

after like first 2 days after reset, yeah

[novel shell]

We need no fatigue

Or atleast 10000

[hearty rivet]

No fatigue would certainly remove the FOMO aspect of weekly grind while also allow people to grind themselves to death if they want to 🤔 Pluuuus the real limiting factor is the golden key + one's wallet/willingness to spend money on potions.

[hidden creek]

all pve games got fatigue in one form or another

[fickle linden]

what we really need is shorter pve seasons

[twin ledge]

Would be happy just with a auto farm tired of wasting time farming for shit drops

[fierce light]

Fatigue just extends the grind over a longer time period.

But honestly wouldn't mind if they just made the first 600 fatigue per week 200% rewards and the rest 100%.

[twin ledge]

At this point they need to make it stay at 150% the entire way through as a apology for most of us going insane from the farming lol

[fierce light]

Could remove all the Souljades from the Common Reward and put them in a Suffer No Demon-like mission. So we only have the Special Drops for each mission.

[twin ledge]

No clue why suffer isn’t a permanent mode kinda stupid they keep being it for 1 week just to remove it

Literally a lot more players were playing showdown during could find matches with randoms instantly

[marsh moth]

hello, relatively new to showdown souljades, been palying but no idea what i was supposed to be farming so i just keep one of each element of each type of souljade with highest stats. was just using jades with highest luck, aegis break, and dmg. only gotten 1 windfall so far.

wanted to build a luck build for farming? any advice? shud i not bother?

[twin ledge]

What are u gonna be farming

Oh

[marsh moth]

idk xD i see dark zeros lotus builds in the pins

[twin ledge]

My bad miss read

[twin ledge]

But if u want to farm either gold key peak but if cant do that i would spam farm ruins hard

[marsh moth]

oh i havent even touched enigma

didnt even get through nightscream

do people build luck builds? or do they just go for strongest build and clear faster?

[fierce light]

The Luck build CN is using is just the Poison Lotus build with Blessed as the Optional Jade.

[marsh moth]

where do i find the build?

[fierce light]

If you pass 5000 Luck, you can swap Blessed with Lucky Break.

[marsh moth]

hmm it doenst seem to show an actuly number for luck in the stats

[fierce light]

Noxious Blast
Pestilent Pool
Infectious Touch
Toxified Lotus
Ghastbloom
Blessed | Lucky Break

How much Luck you go for is up to you. Some insane ones went Luck +500 with x3 Windfall on each Jade.

[dapper nebula]

new player here, can anyone explain how zipings 13 celestial mark counter works?

[dapper nebula]

i dont get the "defuse combo" part or how to active it

[marsh moth]

how does the red stats like windfall work anyways? are u able to reroll them like normal stats ?

flux jades?

[fierce light]

1. Begin charging either a Horizontal or Vertical attack.
2. Tap the opposite directional attack (ex: Charging Horizontal, Tap Vertical).
3. You'll negate damage for a short time period and carry out a special animation if you're hit.
4. Tap Horizontal to use her Defuse Counterattack (Defuse • Combo) or tap Vertical to do another Defuse.

[dapper nebula]

thank you!

[marsh moth]

i have the jades, shud i just roll for poison blast and atk for now since im assuming it flux jades for the red windfall?

[fierce light]

Rare Attribute Rules

1. When there's 1 Rare Attribute on a Souljade, you can use Attribute Recast to change it to a non-Rare Attribute or with a slight chance to a different Rare Attribute.
2. Attribute Recast can not grant you a 2nd, 3rd or 4th Rare Attribute on the same Souljade.
3. Flux Jades or Flux Jade Shards must be used to acquire more than 1 Rare Attribute on the same Souljade.

Windfall

• Windfall amplifies the effect of other Attributes on that Souljade by 30/40/50%. A Souljade with the following stats:

• Attack +3%
• Poison Blast DMG +20%
• Luck +400
• Windfall +50%

• would be equivalent to:

• Attack +4.5%
• Poison Blast DMG +30%
• Luck + 600

[marsh moth]

ah thank you

[fierce light]

Never use a Flux Jade or Flux Jade Shard for the first Rare Attribute on a Souljade. Only for the 2nd and beyond. They're equivalent to 2 Rare Attributes on other Souljades.

[marsh moth]

yea i can understand why, thanks for the warning

[distant cypress]

Are these still the current builds? recently started with showdown ^^

[twin ledge]

Celestial?

[marsh moth]

are shrouded jades only available through weeklies?

[twin ledge]

They are but I would use the ice one if ur newer in showdown

[marsh moth]

the souljade system is so nice right now, i rememebr when the gamemode first came out, it was disastrous

woo lucky

[distant cypress]

ok ok is that the best right now? or just because of the difficultiy to use other attributes?

[twin ledge]

Depends

The thunder burn is actually still strongest in solo Yama well I would say it’s best if ur using tarka in solo

But trios ice lotus is better but it really good in solo too

[distant cypress]

Also should I keep these souljade gifts right now or just use them? Like is it worth it?

.

Will mostly play Solo and Tarka so I guess thunder burn is for me .-.

[twin ledge]

But thunder burn is prob hardest build to use because ur always one tap and it’s extremely hard to use so I would recommend building ice lotus

[twin ledge]

Are those randoms or choice ones

[marsh moth]

same

mines all randoms

except the single digit ones

[twin ledge]

If I hey are random ones in my opinion I would use but would ask zero just to be sure

[distant cypress]

ok ok thanks for the info

[twin ledge]

I would 100% save the ones u can actually pick which jade u want

Or use some of u don’t have any of the ice lotus jades

Oh and it doesn’t matter if u get sub or frostbound I think zero said was 2.5% dmg difference

[distant cypress]

oki oki

[twin ledge]

Well who will u actually be using mainly

And dang u still have the old crystals

I dead ass should have saved like 1 of them as a collection

[distant cypress]

tarka

[twin ledge]

Oh

Wait @fierce light what would u recommend they use for tarka?

Ice lotus might actually be hard to use for him

[marsh moth]

uhh wow, 700 rerolls gone just like that

[twin ledge]

Well actually nvm would start with ice lotus because thunder burn might not actually have enough days to build

[marsh moth]

+40% moderation

[twin ledge]

Cause u need the 12 scorching for it to actually do what it should 6 or 9 is fine for earlier stages

[twin ledge]

U doing a luck build?

[fierce light]

Welcome to Showdown. Yeah they are the current meta builds.

[twin ledge]

Think can remove something else for lucky break too but wouldn’t know what to actually remove because i despise poison build lol I don’t like it

[twin ledge]

Would ice lotus actually be better for them to build for tarka or thunder burn?

I feel like it’s pretty late to build thunder burn tbh

[fierce light]

That's the name of her Defuse Counterattack

[marsh moth]

yea

[twin ledge]

Oh lmao wait it that the English name?

[fierce light]

They're also extremely rare drops from any mission.

[twin ledge]

I don’t think I actually ever check the names of her stuff because didn’t see a need to lmao

[fierce light]

He can use Ice Lotus or Thunder Scorch. Just Skill + Universe Slash for Ice Lotus

[twin ledge]

Just called defuse the defuse guess I’ll have to check it when I get home because I didn’t even know that what it was called and I main her oh my

[marsh moth]

i thought he was talking about some cool combo at first xD

[fierce light]

Next would probably be Noxious Blast, but you'd just be gimping your damage even more. Don't think the amount of time to clear is worth going that much imo

[twin ledge]

But I thought it was ice that’s better with the luck stuff

Been awhile since I’ve looked at luck stuff don’t use them either

[fierce light]

Ice doesn't have any room to get rid of jades for it. Plus it relies more on stats than Poison.

[twin ledge]

Wait nvm

Yea was just thinking of something else my bad

Was thinking of the incineration one

[marsh moth]

if only gatcha rerolls were this easy

[fierce light]

Recasting used to be a lot worse

[marsh moth]

i dont want no perfect defense artifacts

[marsh moth]

yea i was there

[twin ledge]

I really wouldn’t invest to much into luck builds

[marsh moth]

oh i guess they got rid of the item

[fierce light]

But yeah its nice we don't have to deal with Main Stats and Sub Stats.

Just the Sub Stats.

[marsh moth]

too late xD already tosses all my 700 rerolls

[fierce light]

I guess Wielding could count as a Main Stat, but you can fix that.

[twin ledge]

Well if they bring suffer as a perm mode I honestly might build a luck build zero

[marsh moth]

but its fine, i wasnt really farming every week before

[marsh moth]

not even, u cant reroll individual stats for most gatcha games

[fierce light]

Yeah it'll be the last build I make, if I do

[twin ledge]

Oh I forgot to tell u that if ur doing thunder burn all 6 jades need to be ice essence

[marsh moth]

o.o

[fierce light]

True

[twin ledge]

And I have all jades max out stats and double windfalls too

[marsh moth]

i was gonna look in my inventory for that those old showdown materials but i guess they completely removed it

[twin ledge]

So now I have time to actually build something if I wanted too

[twin ledge]

They should still be there

If u didn’t delete them

I have a friend that still have the old showdown scroll stuff lol no clue how

[marsh moth]

cant find it, maybe i burned them all ast second

[fierce light]

Quench Crystals? They should still work.

[marsh moth]

oh its cause its not removed

[fierce light]

Crystals aren't really the concern anymore though it's those pesky fragments.

[north lynx]

Lucky break statistically is extremely mid until you have max luck + windfalls

With max luck no windfall it only gives 600, barely an extra stat. Blessed even with no sub stats gaps it to a ridiculous amount

[north lynx]

Luck is 100% worth, I'm getting 3x the rarity rewards everyone else is on all my grinds. Mines not even maxed yet I'm only getting 4000 extra luck from jades

Besides if you haven't already started working on end game showdown, you are super unlikely to get there anyway before season ends. If you focus on luck now you are set up super well for next seasons grinding

[fierce light]

You need 5001+ Luck basically to make Lucky Break worth using.

[twin ledge]

All luck is bad

[north lynx]

You should try it, post patch and new season ofc once all the new stuff is out, but it's very noticeable increases in rewards.

[north lynx]

Yeah it's kinda bad. Plus you really only have the 1 free slot in poison, otherwise dps is noticeably cut. You'd only consider building it super late into the build, and it's only slightly better than base blessed lol

[fierce light]

Only possible with at least 8 Windfalls, so going to lose a lot of damage either way

Enigma Peak takes so long to clear when running a luck build, so mainly would help for fast low difficulty content

[twin ledge]

Rather not

I already stacked up on flux and all max builds builds

I have no need for it

And I despise poison so def not building it for luck

[fickle linden]

peak you want good build for fast clear, nirriti you don't use build

too much work for doom build 🤔

i wish they would revamp the whole showdown luck thing

[fierce light]

There would probably be some people mad if they outright removed it at this point, but wish they were more transparent on the effect.

[elder ferry]

heloouuu, does anybody have a good set up for viper potential in showdown ? i had hard time finding it,, n dunno which side to choose

[fierce light]

Potential is based on the Souljade build that you're running.

[elder ferry]

oh oke so if i go for thunder based souljades then i shall build it toward the thunder potential

[fierce light]

Left (Green) side is for Divine Thunder builds. Middle (Red) side is for Poison builds. Right (Blue) is for Ice builds. Blazing Flame + Water and Fire Raged is for Hydroflare builds.

Yea

[elder ferry]

oww okeee now it makes more sense, thank u

[fierce light]

For more info, these are commonly used Potential Plans: https://dark-zer0.github.io/Showdown/build.html?option=3

[elder ferry]

oww thank u soo much

[north lynx]

I def would be

[north lynx]

Peak doesn't take very long with luck honestly. It's definitely worth it too

[tacit nest]

update is crazy

[north lynx]

Like anyone that doesn't think pulling extra rewards over the course of the next 2 years or however with a fixed playtime system gives a clear edge in grinding isn't thinking about it correctly. You always get 2400 fatigue, everyone does. The amount of time to beat a peak, especially if other people are just running maxxed builds alongside you, is doable. If it takes an extra 2 mins, but is completed with time to spare, that's still 3x rewards for the week if you are capping fatigue either way.

[tacit nest]

i missed a bunch

[fierce light]

Eh i guess the few people I ran that had luck builds just weren't doing well

Gained like an extra 3 minutes from them alone

My main complaint is how selfish the build is and while you may only have 2400 fatigue per week, time is also limited. They could fix that though by making Peak consume 60 fatigue.

[olive bay]

what should i be grinding after all my jades have at least one rare attribute

trying to get jade fragments or rolling my attribute values?

[fierce light]

Depends. Are you aiming for single rare build or double rare?

Single Rare Build

• Start raising all of your Attributes up to around 80% of their max. Then focus your most important Attributes to 100% (such as Attack or Elemental DMG).

Double Rare Build

• Start Recasting random Souljades you don't want to keep until they get a Rare Attribute to deconstruct into Flux Jade Shards.
• Use those Flux Jade Shards to get those 2nd Rare Attributes, assuming your 1st ones are all ones you want.
• For Flux Jade Shards that roll Rare Attributes you don't want, you can Attribute Recast them until a maxed non-Rare Attribute appears to save you some materials later.

[fickle linden]

idk i feel like i rather do peak faster. even without luck build you get 1-2 max builds per season with extra shards/crystal in inventory for next season

i already got max build and tons of shards leftover, what do i need even more shards that just sit in my inventory

maybe if you have really limited time to play per week and can't use most of your fatigue and have premade team that are okay with you doing less than them i could see it

[olive bay]

yeah i don't play that much lol

about 600 fatigue per week

got break next week tho so ill prob have more time

[fickle linden]

move luck to potential tree and give us more potential points

pvp already has it in glyph tree

[north lynx]

I just jungle with it, the camps are almost always right on time at 66% and it doesn't impeed the run at all.

Only like when I'm on eu and I'm fighting back input delay on every movement action am I slow

Or when theirs like 2 capped ice build gamers that 1 shot the boss in 2 secs

Like @fickle linden

[shrewd basin]

Hey anyone got a pic of all the secret rings?

[fickle linden]

in pinned messages

[shrewd basin]

Divine army is locked to NS and legend right?

Or am I mistaken

[fickle linden]

no you are correct

[brisk bone]

What's the best jade/potential set for yueshan

[timid stirrup]

ILM= Ice Lotus Mod

[rough gate]

ne for peaks

[fierce light]

Ice Lotus

[sudden pilot]

tomorrow morning play gold game wait two people，please call me.

[shrewd basin]

Anyone wanna help me clear a legend ruins or carry me past para 5 XD

[twin ledge]

If u don’t find anyone in like 1 or 2 hours I’ll be down

[dapper nebula]

Are there some attacks that are not dodgeable?

Like you just have to be positioned well

[twin ledge]

For what

all attacks can be dodged if ur dashing at the right times

[dapper nebula]

Do you have the frame data for the dodges?

Sometimes I swear i dodge attacks but they hit

[twin ledge]

U mean like do u need high fps for the dashes?

[dapper nebula]

I've recorded a few clips cuz I felt the game was gaslighting me 😅

[twin ledge]

Yea but no at same time for showdown u wanna worry about ping effecting it tbh

[dapper nebula]

Like does the iframe start right when you press dodge

Oh ping affects showdown

rip

[twin ledge]

U can roll or dash then into a roll

But even with high ping should still be able to do it pretty easy

[twin ledge]

If ur getting it down I can screenshare it

Later tho not home atm

[dapper nebula]

Frame before i press dodge

Starting dodge

Frame server reads dodge? At least it used my stamina

[twin ledge]

Defuse that

[dapper nebula]

And then I get hit ~ 200ms later

[twin ledge]

The first jump defuse

Then second jump defuse then dash back

And I would parry the 3rd

But this boss the dashes and dodges prob one of the worst other than matron

[dapper nebula]

Glad im not the only one then

I'll just block then

[fierce light]

It probably differs depending on ping, but there's a few good videos on it.

[twin ledge]

Block?

[dapper nebula]

defuse

[twin ledge]

Oh

Tbh u honestly don’t want to dodge or dash to much in showdown

U only really wanna use it if time ur counter/parry or defuse wrong

Like if u know u timed it wrong just dash

Oh ur ziping anyways defuse

[twin ledge]

Wait is that ruins?

and which level of ruins is that

Oh it is on hard

Ur potential doesn’t come into ruins so ur defuse and stamina is actually not fast in ruins

So u will notice lag or feels like it

Plus ruins is laggy for no reason anyways

[fierce light]

A lot of the bosses have attacks that will frame trap your dodges (like Hun Dun's side swipe from your right or Omnious Rock's leap attack). That's usually mitigated by using a Defuse since they have longer iframes and you can extend it with a dodge.

[dapper nebula]

not understanding this, my potential?

[fierce light]

The Stamina Nodes from your Potential Plan don't apply in Nirriti's Ruins. None of the nodes do.

[twin ledge]

It’s the talent system for showdown

[dapper nebula]

Oh like the talents that increase speed of defuse

[twin ledge]

I think that’s what it’s called for the pvp

[twin ledge]

Yep

[dapper nebula]

gotcha

[twin ledge]

Doesnt go in with u In ruins so u do need the defuse a slight earlier not to much tho

But I mainly use tarka for ruins hard when farming normally takes 3 to 2 minutes to finish or time it says but I normally kill boss before it even moves

Because I hate getting near bosses in ruins makes me pick up bad habits cause of weird delay in ruins

But tarka u can throw skill right at start then ult and spam ur ult at boss should die if u have enough element rings

[fierce light]

Hmm, seeing as Paragon 15 comes out next week and there's a chance we have nothing after Paragon 15. There's a good chance we'll get the Curio Update on the 16th.

[limpid pecan]

i think there is no chance of this

we gonna go all the way to 20

prob they gonna mix it up a bit

after 15

coz ngl 11-15

is a joke

xd

[twin ledge]

They give a extra week for last stage every season tho

Some seasons it gave the stage before last 1 extra too

[limpid pecan]

i mean i said no chance of stopping at 15

im pretty sure they have 16-20 in works

[twin ledge]

If they do what all the other stages then we prob won’t but we don’t know if they will give extra week for last 2 stages

[limpid pecan]

i think u just need to calculate

according to season end date

[twin ledge]

Do that but remove 2 or 4 weeks

Wait just 2

[fierce light]

15's Omens do seem kinda weird to be a final stage so I agree. Still, just hoping we get the early date instead of the end of April.

[limpid pecan]

highly doubt

[twin ledge]

I’m just saying it’s possible that’s all no clue what’s on these devs anymore

[fierce light]

16-20 probably going to have us fighting double bosses off rip

[shrewd basin]

Anyone for doom? NA

Or peak

[north lynx]

@fierce light 200+ shards dumped into a dumby jade no rare I h8 it here

[shrewd basin]

[fierce light]

Hard pity seems to be around 240 Fragments (120 Recasts), so just keep trying.

[dusk plover]

Even if they do go to 2 weeks (doubt) per level after 15 (coming out the 9th), it’s exactly spaced out for 3 more levels. Highly doubt they’re not going to add anymore after 15 since there will still be 8 whole weeks left in the season. I’d bet they’ll do mobs or like dark said straight double bosses maybe even eerie which would be dope.

[fierce light]

15 might be mobs and early boss

[dusk plover]

That’s what it looks like to me which has me thinking it’s going to be a mix of mobs and double bosses after 15

Especially since you can’t really double the void/korvine/manticore boss unless it’s another main boss.

Would love to see a double eerie boss on the last or last two levels though

[tardy sorrel]

whats the best way to increase sense level? im 730 right now

[fierce light]

Do the Chapter Missions until you unlock Nirriti's Ruins.

Then run that until you're strong enough for Enigma Topaz (~900-1000 Sense depending on how good your build is).

[north lynx]

Once you're strong enough for topaz, just finish the first 3 bosses then leave. It's the most efficient sense level grinding for time spent.

[twin ledge]

Lmao game is a joke

So one boss isn’t eerie but the other is on 14

Devs are actually so weird

[fierce light]

Hmm wasn't expecting them to pull that out so soon

@lapis drum Guess you got your wish.

[dusk plover]

Yesssssss now they just need to make the second boss eerie too towards the end of the season

Hopefully they stop with the cake walk levels now given we’re in new paragon territory

[fierce light]

Need a new rank name atp

It wasn't that bad though

[dusk plover]

Yeah I agree with that. Should have been after 10. Level honestly wasn’t what I thought it was going to be ☹️ : still better than the past few but not what I wanted

[shrewd basin]

@fierce light what are the rares I need for yushan is it 8x Win 4x Mod?

[fierce light]

Yes

[shrewd basin]

Damn I only have 3x and 2x rn

What attribute should I drop for a rare. Attack?

[amber terrace]

any P14 sea?

[fierce light]

The attribute that's furthest from max.

[shrewd basin]

Now if you roll a rare on a random attribute can you roll a rare again on a different attribute

On the same jade

[timid stirrup]

a 2nd rare can only be obtained by using a Flux Jade or 2x Flux Shard

[shrewd basin]

But those are both random right

[fierce light]

You can not get a 2nd, 3rd or 4th Rare Attribute from Attribute Recasting. You must use a Flux Jade or Flux Jade Shards for any extra past the 1st.

[timid stirrup]

Flux Jades can b obtained as a reward from 1st clear of a paragon lvl that i cant remember the number and showdown glory points from completing season quests as well as from the battlepass. Flux Shards are obtained from deconstructed jades that have a rare on them

[dapper nebula]

can a souljade drop with rare attributes?

if so what tiers

[dapper nebula]

not on blues right 😂 cuz i havent been checking

[shrewd basin]

I believe it’s only purple and gold

[amber terrace]

it on blue jades before but idk it still on at this ver

[fierce light]

Can't recast blue Souljades so likely not

[hidden creek]

windfall scorching moderation does exist on blue jade but they became normal opt if they're on blue jade, so it's useless

[sly kestrel]

Anyone wanna play nirriti legend eu ?

[clear badger]

Whats the difference in drops between Nirriti Hard, Legend and Nightscream? Was able to finally solo NS, but because drop rates seems same as hard, i dont see much difference. Did 3 runs each and only diff is i got 5 rare jades compared to 3 from hard and the drop pool seems to be same.

[amber terrace]

Hard drop Hard jade, Nightscream & Legend drop Nightscream jade

[clear badger]

So any jade from NS stage can drop from Nightscream Nirriti? Guess i was just unlucky then, getting only those from common pool.

[amber terrace]

yup

[clear badger]

So that is what hides under that "high tier Nirriti loot", because it doesnt show drop table for that one. Guess im off to farm NS then. Thank you for help @amber terrace

[amber terrace]

if u need jade for build then go NS, for fast run go hard

[clear badger]

Most of jades i do have already, but missing few for thunderscorch build. So will run Nightscream Nirriti then. Doing united we stand for it wasnt worth the time with abysmal drop rates.

[amber terrace]

it all in RNG

[woven ingot]

Dropping a specific jade is always a pain. Nirriti loot pool has just too many things in it. The chance to get the jade you want are very low. The chance to get it with decent stats are … no comment.
Farming a stage it drops from should be the way to go. But even there the chances of drop are terrible.
Your really best bet is to have a « choice jade chest » so you can get the jade you want. Of course it’s still rng to get decent stats and not having to dump thousands of fragments to max them.

[quaint girder]

Honestly, getting the base Souljade is the most important

Substats don't matter as much until you push out to high Yamas or aim for Speedrun Leaderboards

Even Enigma Peak you just need to reroll into the right basic (not rare) substats and have them like halfway to max to clear

But point being, without the base Souljade build it's hard to clear ANY content

[zealous patrol]

well moderation matters

[quaint girder]

It does for Speedrun Rankings and high Yama levels.

It doesn't for anything else. Does it make clearing faster and easier? Yes.

[zealous patrol]

its just really comforatbale to play with 100% mod

[quaint girder]

Is it absolutely necessary for first time clears or general farming of Enigma Peak, Enigma Topaz, Doom, and up to Paragon 1 Yamas? Absolutely not.

[quaint girder]

Listen, I'm not disagreeing with you.

[zealous patrol]

usually 50% mod is fine for that

[quaint girder]

I'm just trying to point out having the most perfect endgame build will burnout a lot of casual and midcore players.

[zealous patrol]

just get good teammates

[quaint girder]

You don't even need 50%

I can clear Topaz and up to Paragon 1 solo without any Rares.

Hell, Doom doesn't even need Rares

Only content that would make Rares worth it are probably Topaz and Speedrun, but even with perfect build its up to player skill. You can still suck arse with a 100% mod build (it's really hard to suck with it, but I've seen it before).

[zealous patrol]

also this weeks yama's abyss

im using thundervape

but the lotus one

non copperward

and i still die in one hit so

[quaint girder]

But yeah, the point is the chat needs to stop focusing on super end-game builds like autists

Because most people asking probably won't push past even Solar on Yamas, let alone be able to participate in Doom

Casuals are struggling to clear Story mode

Mid-cores are only clearing enough to get all the Season rewards.

Only Hardcores and sweats go for Ranks and the fastests craziest builds for the most insane speed time so they can compare to CN players.

[zealous patrol]

well i just carry people if i have spare time

[quaint girder]

I do too

But the thing is, after I carry most players tend to just fark off and not really play lol

They don't even try the content like Peak, Speedrun, or high Yamas

[fierce light]

Yeah if you carry someone through the chapter missions, they end up with limited game knowledge so they really struggle with end-game content.

[quaint girder]

And the ones willing to make the grind, feel like its impossible to catch up because they need to level up heroes to 20, get sense level to 1120, AND need to reroll substats.

[fierce light]

So you have people building Pendulums in Immovable Speedrun and teleporting to other lanes before even clearing theirs in Desert Tribulations.

[quaint girder]

This is yolo queue right?

[fierce light]

Yeah

[quaint girder]

oof

[quaint girder]

I also feel like

Some players will just brute force...and still build pendulums

Even if they're not carried

Because they just can't think beyond step one without guidance

"If I can build pendulums, why shouldn't I?"

without understanding how it staggers mob waves, increases time spent, and making AoEs harder

[quaint girder]

But this is already a lot of stuff to do.

I didn't even mention Fire Forge and the Season Quests.

So yeah, I wouldn't have players focus on substats until they complete hitting level 20 on at least a couple of characters and hit 1120 on Sense Level

[zealous patrol]

that takes like 1 week

if u get your self to do it

[quaint girder]

Not with a full-time job and a life lol

I mean if you're terminally online with at least 4-8 hours to play a day sure.

[zealous patrol]

well it is a full time job for the people that do do that

[quaint girder]

Yeah, those are terminally online gamers

casual and mid-core will take probably most of the 6 month season to get to the point we're at

[zealous patrol]

i only clear like 600 - 1200 fatigue per week now

[quaint girder]

I'm lucky to clear 600 a week

[zealous patrol]

enigma peak with some fixed teammates

[fierce light]

Yeah that's why I recommend saving Recasting for last

[zealous patrol]

thursday night enigma peak 600 and done

[quaint girder]

Heh I wish

[zealous patrol]

i recommend get a jade with max substats first

[zealous patrol]

im like the worst out of my fixed teammates

[quaint girder]

That's the ideal, but its better to get a functional build instead

[zealous patrol]

every single one of them has at least 1 hyper maxed set

[fierce light]

Yeah, the longer you hold off on it, the better the chance you'll have a good jade.

[quaint girder]

Better to clear some content then to wait for something that will never occur

[quaint girder]

So just have your core souljade build but don't recast

[fierce light]

I really hope they do adjust the fatigue costs though, I would like to farm Nightscream, but it's strictly not worth it due to the time it takes.

[quaint girder]

save all the fragments until you get sense 1120, heroes to 20, finish fire forge and curio lol

occasionally get better stat rolled jades and swap them out

[fierce light]

I think Curio is for extra content after people max their jades.

[quaint girder]

Same, but they don't care lol.

[fierce light]

Since it's only going to be in the 2nd halves.

[zealous patrol]

ye

[quaint girder]

They're just happy to play with me

[zealous patrol]

my best set is my lotus scorch and it is 4 scorch 7 windfall 1 mod ;-;

[fierce light]

I don't understand why they made the Team Up feature actively worse

[quaint girder]

But yeah, I want a 100% Ice Mod build, but I keep getting Scorching. This is why I tell newbies not to worry about substats so much

[zealous patrol]

without max stats on all of it

[fierce light]

You can't even tell what people posted for

Just make it show up like a custom room

Moving from Poison Mod to Ice Mod feels really good ngl

[zealous patrol]

bro i have like 150 mod on my ice set and only 5 windfall ;-;

[fierce light]

That -2s cooldown makes all the difference.

[quaint girder]

My best set is a normal DT build, but it still does ass damage compared to a standard Ice Lotus that doesn't even have good substats

Which is why I said substats don't matter as much as the core build until super end game

Is it comfy? Yes

Is it a realistic to tell newbies that they have to only focus on that when there are other tasks they need to complete to be viable? Absolutely not.

[fickle linden]

was it better before?

real LFG system would be nice

[fierce light]

The problem before was aside from that one tip, you won't even realize it's there.

and the limited options for the description of groups. Still an issue, but now it just displays players.

[shrewd basin]

#xboxLFG tbh is kinda dead

[fierce light]

Yeah I saw that French one

[fickle linden]

oh it's console thing?

i've never seen anything like that

[shrewd basin]

Hey @fierce light what build should I run for Féria, TS or ILM?

[fierce light]

ILM

TLS does have the highest theoretical DPS, but unlike Ice, it needs you to be fairly aggressive due to decaying Thunder and expiring Lotus

[zealous patrol]

the stamina bar 💀

thats the main issue i have using it

[fierce light]

Yeah that too

ILM being able to get its damage off in ~2-3s gives it a huge advantage.

[dapper nebula]

Just finished hard mode in morus isle, 780 sense

Whats the next progression?

[zealous patrol]

keep doing morus isle

or the top left island

[dapper nebula]

I tried nightscream and got fked in the ass 🫡

[zealous patrol]

this is my LTS damage ;-; paragon 14

very sadly i always die on the gang phase

[dusk plover]

Yeah it’s really just a safer/weaker thunderscorch

[zealous patrol]

skill issue ngl

[zealous patrol]

might just go back to thunder scorch

gets one tapped anyway

my copper ward is a bit bad though

so i only got 5 scorching 6 windfall

let me try that

[dusk plover]

I haven’t had to with solos since times over here I can beat just doing ILM but yeah this late in the levels you’re pretty much already getting 1-2 shot anyways lol

[dusk plover]

Swap that 5th scorching next time you get a flux unless you have a jade with just scorching on it and I’d just reroll for a windfall

[zealous patrol]

i just needa get a better bronze skin

and my subs arnt maxed

this is the set

[dusk plover]

Yeah honestly the max stats grind is worse than rolling for rares to dismantle if you arent starting lucky with the stats starting out

[zealous patrol]

wait

i just realised i got 11 scorching instad of 12

forgot to level that last one

welp

got a somewhat usable ice set to clear daily stuff

[dusk plover]

Yeah I’d recast the scorching on your copper ward then try rolling for windfall

[zealous patrol]

also needa recase the lotus counter

the moderation

[dusk plover]

True. Hopefully you won’t be like me and use 3 flux and still not get windfall

[zealous patrol]

6 of my last 7 rares are scorching

and only 2 of them were useful

time to do some runs

[quaint girder]

If you want, you could always get carried

[dapper nebula]

Maybe once i get to the tower defense levels

The bosses is just a matter of getgud

[zealous patrol]

dont worry, just @ in if u need carry

Make sure u on right server though

[zealous patrol]

Btw this thing does wayyyy more damage than the TLS set but it’s much harder to use

[dapper nebula]

It says I can get this in hard mode but its not on the drop list

[zealous patrol]

Well it’s in night scream right

[fierce light]

At max stats, Scorching on TLS will hit ~22.6% weaker than on TS (assuming you run Incineration and Copper Ward). So for every 4 Scorchings, TS hits 1 extra Scorching harder.

[zealous patrol]

Feels way more than 22% though

[fierce light]

So you'll need to at least activate Scorching ~30% more for TLS to be worth

[zealous patrol]

And my tls got better stats

[zealous patrol]

I never noticed I only had 11 scorching instead of 12 though

[zealous patrol]

Usually TS can tank 0.5-1.2 hits

And TLS can tank 1.2-2 hits

Makes the difference

[fierce light]

In my calculations for example, Scorching Lv. 12 hits for:

• 117,337 Health Damage on TS.
• 90,801 Health Damage on TLS.

Pretty much against bosses that throw lots of blues, or are too aggressive for you to reasonably parry as many Thunder Counters, TS is better.

[zealous patrol]

But u get more scorching hits on tls though

[fierce light]

Yeah TLS wins in frequency, TS wins in potency per proc.

TLS also just a lot more safer though.

[zealous patrol]

The difference between dying in 1 hit and 2 hits

[fickle linden]

yeah no idea why it says that, you have to farm it in nightscream

[fierce light]

For the earlier stages TS will likely be a lot stronger since you can burst them down in 2-3 Scorchings.

But for longer fights, TLS for sure

[zealous patrol]

Well if only I can devote all the time to showdown

But I spend most my time in 1v1 rooms

Or others games

Val Genshin hsr wuwa and a bunch more

[fierce light]

I just play Naraka, WuWa and PGR atm

Bit of Smite 2

[fierce light]

Been a while

[woven ingot]

Thunder wielding Peak?

[fierce light]

Yeah was helping some people who didn't have first clear

[woven ingot]

I see. Makes sense that way ^^

[fierce light]

Jeez +433 Fragments from first 600 fatigue

[north lynx]

Really that's only around 7 hours of playtime per week if you're just doing ruins hard

[fierce light]

And it ended up with nothing. Another Moderation, just want the last windfall

[woven ingot]

I know how that feel way too well for my taste.

[zealous patrol]

I’m like the only one that doesn’t cap it

[fierce light]

When you're trying to max a build it's good inspiration

Outside of that I do like 600-1200 fatigue

[north lynx]

I just got my first one of these

[dusk plover]

Honestly ridiculous NA still only has 1 server node while everyone else 2-4

It’s annoying a matter of how congested/if the server is laggy determines whether I can play (even showdown) or not

[fierce light]

Hopefully they make some ping-friendly bosses.

[dusk plover]

It’s not even that, I can’t even farm fatigue in nirriti or domain. Server says 78ms (around my usual) but when I hop into an actual match just stays at 130+. Tried other games and no lag/ping where it should be at so it’s a naraka thing like usual

[fierce light]

Mine was doing that last week

Was pretty frustrating for sure.

[dusk plover]

It’s just hilarious to me on other multiplayer games even smaller than naraka I’m usually at around 30 but for naraka I can never get lower than 70 🤣

[shrewd basin]

@north lynx sorry about that first run didn’t realize I was flipping spawns

[north lynx]

Np!

It didn't affect the run much so it's fine

[zealous patrol]

i got 3ms server ping and around 10-20ms acctual ping

👍

[zealous patrol]

well the main audience is in asia

in fact naraka mobile is only avaliable in china

[fierce light]

Crazy they even have a mobile app for Showdown over there

[amber terrace]

yup

[dusk plover]

Yeah I do understand that but 1 single server node for a region more than twice the size of EU (who has 3) isn’t enough and doesn’t make sense.

[dusk plover]

Go ahead and dig a whole and jump in it for me

Jk jk

[twin ledge]

U should see what I’m dealing with lmao

Packet loss and unplayable lag

Haven’t even played ranked a weeks because lag is unplayable

[sterile valve]

Does anyone know how to do the Gelid Yushan 4 mission?

[amber terrace]

3 mode + speedrun

[sterile valve]

I do the race every week, is there something different that I don't know about?

[amber terrace]

before it's 5, 3 mode, doom, speedrun

but they remove 1 from doom

[sterile valve]

I understand that I need to do 3 modes before the race and then enter the run

[fierce light]

Normal, Hard, Nightscream and Speedrun

Haven't had it for Speedrun for a while.

[twin ledge]

Nah that’s all u

Not blocked

Cause ur not friends

I have settings on where people can’t message me unless we friends or I accept message request

[upbeat fern]

anyone? friends?

[heavy gulch]

W settings

[woven ingot]

What Dark said, you need to wait for her to appears in Speedrun which didn't happened since a along time.
When you'll have killed her in speedrun you'll have the achievement.

[sterile valve]

thank u 🙂

[slow kraken]

does anyone have a good kurumi souljade build for showdown im not too sure what to build

[hidden creek]

you can always check ranking

[steep patio]

someone said you get more blue crystals if you use luck jades in nirrita is this true

[quaint girder]

Souljades and their substats have no effects in Nirriti whatsoever. Whoever gave you that info is spewing bs

[shrewd basin]

SJ are for Yamas doom peak and story if I’m not mistaken

[steep patio]

ik but just asking

i see people have luck builds w 3 rares on blessed

[fierce light]

They just have extra materials to spend ig

[quaint girder]

That's for Enigma farming

It's halfway between me and legit

[analog aspen]

now I know why my parry timers were off today... what is this

[woven ingot]

Waow, no server with a decent ping.

[analog aspen]

EU usually has 25

idk whats wrong

[steep patio]

i have a latin american friend who plays on 160 everyday

closest server for him is NA

hes pretty good to

[analog aspen]

I live in the center of EU and NA currently has a better ping lol

[twin ledge]

Think they na ngl the na leaderboards builds are all over the place

[twin ledge]

My own server has been saying 501 for the last month

[fierce light]

TLS is probably her strongest bet atm, but ILM is decent as well.
-# TLS = Thunder Lotus Scorch. ILM = Ice Lotus Mod.
Check the site for more details:

[thorn narwhal]

Parry simulator, the sheer amount of blues.. is just a thunder / scorch heaven, and a nightmare for ice yueshan ult.

[shrewd basin]

Only 105 more manticore runs and I’ll max my musket

Is there no faster way

[woven ingot]

If you're only about leveling a weapon, Yama, from stage 1.

If you want to get a lil' something on the way, 3 bosses Enigma Topaz

[dusk plover]

I swear games been all screwed up since the update

But that’s usual

[fierce light]

Glad to see Thunder build paying off for someone

[timid stirrup]

can u share the build and potential tree u used?

I think i know but i wanna make sure

[fierce light]

Not many options for Thunder.

• Epiphany
• Heal on Defuse

• Might have Heal on Counter, or Counter triggers Recovery Attribute

• Thunder Root
• Aroma Aura

They don't have Blazing Flame (cause of their health), didn't touch the Blue Path (cause no Skilled Fire Chant), so probably branched into the Minor Rage/s | Rage/DMG nodes to get his Ultimate up faster.

[timid stirrup]

i saw the counter recovery not sure i noticed defuse recovery

so that was thunder lotus w/ scorching i assume

i did notice 10k+ divine thunders

[fierce light]

He doesn't have Scorching

[timid stirrup]

no? i swear i saw a burn after a counter attack

[fierce light]

Flame-Thunder Chant about the only Burn.
-# You can see at 0:12, Scorching doesn't activate.

[timid stirrup]

yea i just rewatched. its after a skill

thanx 4 the clarification

[steep patio]

engima

gives roughly 2700-4k

per game

[amber terrace]

anyone know how to get chamber pts fastest?

[timid stirrup]

thank you for sharing

[shrewd basin]

As in leaderboards, host celebrations

[steep patio]

50 points every wednesday

no faster then that

[drifting lance]

🎉 | ··꒱- °☽.lain- leveled up!

[north lynx]

Wrong chat, but the fastest way is to spend money and give celebration coins in heroes assemble.

Ranked is the second fastest.

[amber terrace]

except spend money then make celebration so i wanna grind it from match, idk quick match/showdown make more pts

[north lynx]

Ranked is the fastest

[stoic trail]

Hello, just started on Naraka not long ago and i want to ask about souljades. Its worth to focus on recommend builds used by players or its not related to real gameplay?

[fickle linden]

https://dark-zer0.github.io/Showdown/ best info for new player

you can find all the best builds in there

ice lotus build is most popular

[stoic trail]

[glacial fable]

Is it worth maxing my poison build or should i start leveling my ice lotus build?

[fickle linden]

i didn't max my poison build and instead built ice lotus and maxed it and i have 0 regrets, ice is just better

and now they even fixed trio ice blast bug

[fierce light]

They hinted at something in the Curio System that could make Poison better (more Lotus), but right now Ice is strictly better, especially after the Successive Ice Blast bug fix

[astral widget]

One person to paragon14

[tacit nest]

anyone one for newest paragon?

[lucid ore]

I wonder if the curio system will require massive grinding also

[fickle linden]

they are gonna inject as much RNG as they can into it

[quaint girder]

Best part, Curio resets every season

Goodbye to all your unique attacks

[fickle linden]

i guess it's finally nice that showdown season is way too long

imagine farming curios again and again after every few months

[fierce light]

For them to be unique attacks, I don't see them adding too many (seeing how long it takes for a hero to be ported over from PvP). Would be nice if they also added an extra slot exclusively for a Wielding Jade.

[fickle linden]

well they might not even be annoying to farm, we'll see. at this point i'm just expecting the worst

[hidden creek]

in before curios also got its own rare attributes system

[fierce light]

Hopefully there's a pity system included

Bad enough with the chests

[woven ingot]

If that happens to be terrible, you'll be blamed.

[thorn narwhal]

kurumi is literally unusable in yama trio wtf..

getting hit just for using soul slash is stupid

[fierce light]

Yeah don't like that it expands your hitbox

Funny enough fastest time in CN was with her

[hearty rivet]

Or upgradeable rare stats. rare to legendary to extreme but you get a random stat from next tier, they all require different currency to be farmed and extreme can only be rerolled to normal or regular rare tier if you gat a wrong one.

[fierce light]

They did mention them being upgradeable

[shrewd basin]

[twin ledge]

Huh

She is pretty good tho for trios

Cn fastest time has a rumi

Oh zero already said

[thorn narwhal]

yes but she always gets caught in every attack even from distance specially with 2 bosses spawning and buffs aren't consistent

also how do you guys check cn times?

[twin ledge]

No clue my friend does

[thorn narwhal]

let's hope for the best, maybe temulsh and valda will follow after
https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1358265754335711423

[woven ingot]

Beautiful gameplay.

[shrewd basin]

wish the game played this smooth on console

[trim pulsar]

Anyone for speedrun?

[fierce light]

Parrying the Thunder Array close to the boss will shock them, but remove your Scorching. Still nice run though.

[dapper nebula]

you can get punished for afking in a solo trio run lol

[hybrid monolith]

guys may I know which character uses flying knives in Showdown? Is it Lannie?

[fickle linden]

flying knives aren't in showdown

neither is lannie yet

[fickle linden]

that ping

https://tenor.com/view/zach-galifinakis-hangover-hangover-alan-alan-hairflip-gif-13142173

[astral widget]

Paragon 14 or jade farming?

[copper fiber]

what's the fastest way to farm jades for deconstruction and recasting?

[amber terrace]

Enigma peak

[heavy gulch]

anyone wanna do nihirris ruins nightscream ?

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Lanciax The Suit Demon leveled up!

[fickle linden]

who will this be?

alotta poison

[glacial fable]

Korvina would be my guess

[amber terrace]

fish naga in Omens

[quaint girder]

We wouldn't know. We don't even have Heng Sword or Fist Blades in Showdown yet.

But your guess is my guess, when Flying Knives comes out, it will most likely be Lannie

I hope they release characters more frequently

[amber terrace]

flying knives maybe for Hadi

[fierce light]

I guess Yueshan can be good solo too

[fickle linden]

no, that's just you

[woven ingot]

Full elemental, no burn, no lotus?

You spammed the horse attack?

[fierce light]

Pretty much

[woven ingot]

I see. Interesting. I will have to keep that in mind.

[turbid agate]

is skyfire or ember any good on thunderscorch, instead of copper? for survivability, dont want to lose all armor.

[hidden creek]

you can just go for thunder lotus scorch

[fierce light]

Skyfire is actively worse with Hydroflare. Ember requires Incineration to charge it, but it's pretty slow.

[turbid agate]

is thunder lotus scorch any good?

[fierce light]

It's decent against bosses.

Not so much against mobs

[turbid agate]

so like a 'light' version of the regular thunder scorch? it is worth building into or just go w thunder scorch?

[fierce light]

Well less damage per Scorching ~24% weaker iirc. But double the charge rate of Thunderpull.

[turbid agate]

thank you dark.

[hallow plinth]

I was active during the Nier Collab but uninstalled because I would only really play for the raid showdown mode but its weekends only... Is it still weekends??

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Hippy leveled up!

[north lynx]

No. They made it a permanent mode now, much more competitive, now they added a fatigue system and seasons to it.

It is basically the campaign mode for the game now

[hallow plinth]

Wow!

Oh im redownloading for sure

I literally did not like the battle royale I liked the raid stuff

And I spent lots of time unlocking the nier stuff lol

[north lynx]

Yeah compared to where it was it's just much better and actively encouraged to play. A new season is starting in a month or so, so if you come back now that gives you time to get acclimated and then you'll be in a decent spot for next season

[hallow plinth]

Noice, i only play Yushan because he has the Replicant Nier skin

any good builds you got for me?

[north lynx]

Yueshan is one of the top heroes so that works! Dark has a really good guide on showdown with builds sec

https://dark-zer0.github.io/Showdown/

Yueshans best build is ilm(Ice Lotus Moderation)

Which is one of if not the strongest build in the game generally

[hallow plinth]

nice thx

[hallow plinth]

damn i dont know what happened to my sense its at 700, I need major upgrade. Tried queing up for what I can play but theres no one on. Maybe someone can carry me on hard mode or nightmare to help me get better setup.

[fierce light]

700 is the new minimum. Nirriti's Ruins Normal/Hard is probably your best bet. Pretty much no one queues for chapter quests this late in the season

[hallow plinth]

god damn so I'm back to ground zero basically

couple of legendary jades but they're at 100-112 oof

[fierce light]

Pretty much

[north lynx]

Nirriti Ruins is a mode that is its own thing, sense level doesn't matter there. Easiest way to get sense lv from start

[hallow plinth]

oh ok

[zealous patrol]

Im still using TLS

no divine thunder set

dont have cabbage leaves and stones to make one

i always die on the 2 boss phase

one blue on left one white on right

slap slap

[zealous patrol]

4 scorching 7 windfall 1 mod

And a skill issue

[radiant cedar]

Wait, let me tell you something! Let me tell you something 🥲

[woeful monolith]

Why, just why!

1 Windfall and I have a flux shard waiting to complete my build. Windfalls are just a folkstale for me.

[amber terrace]

[fierce light]

So far seems like the average amount of recasts per rare is around 100. I only have 4 recorded though so I'll see how it changes.

[fierce light]

3rd week now, still haven't gotten the last windfall

[shrewd basin]

Try using reverse psychology

[fierce light]

Think this is payback for how lucky I got with my 5th - 7th Windfall

[stoic rapids]

Paragon 14 just have 3 boss like paragon 1 ?.?

[dapper nebula]

So uh niritis on nightscream, bosses just one shot you

Is this normal

[signal kite]

What on earth! is this thunder scorch build u used ? Jesus Christ

[amber terrace]

lucky in very much charged atk

[signal kite]

Pro

[obsidian maple]

might someone tell me what the recommended wuchen poison build by the devs is ?basiclly only poison ,but with stormstride sword

[amber terrace]

noice

[north lynx]

Stormstride sword increases wuchens base damage by 35%. It also helps with elemental accumulation since extra hits. Defuse solidification imo is better though on wichen for the 6th slot.

[fierce light]

Poison build has 5 Core Souljades:

Noxious Blast
Pestilent Pool
Infectious Touch
Toxified Lotus
Ghastbloom

The last Souljade can be what you want, although Miasma Drive (for single-targets) and Venomous Lotus (for multiple targets) are the general top performers.

[zealous patrol]

watch your flux shards get all scorching as well

[zealous patrol]

noted

ill try that

even though my jades prob bit worse

@fierce light you ever done calculations on how much damage 8% attack increases for scorching?

[fierce light]

Depends how much Attack you have before that.

8% / (Your_Attack / 252) would give you the increase.

[zealous patrol]

ty

[zealous patrol]

wait so 0.08/(359/252)

5% increase?

[fierce light]

Yes.
-# ~5.6%

[zealous patrol]

if the optimal setup for TS is 4 scorching 7 windfall with 6 hp and attack and 1 parry heal then i am 20.2% hp and 27.2% attack away from optimal build

so i do like 20-30% less damage?

my defuse heal/parry heal

[woeful monolith]

Whats your FPS?

[woeful monolith]

Thanks for the positivity, appreciate it.

[zealous patrol]

I GOT 7 SCORCHUINGS IUN A ROW

on my ice set

and im getting mod on my scorching set

and my ice set alr have 150% mod

nvm ill try another day

[fierce light]

It gets a bit weird.

1. Most optimal for damage output:

• x1 [Scorching], [Scorching], Health, Counter triggers Recovery
• x2 [Scorching], [Windfall], Attack, Health
• x3 [Windfall], [Windfall], Attack, Health

Attribute Values

• Attack: +36%
• Health: +150%
• Counter triggers Recovery: +200

2. Most optimal for value:

• x4 [Scorching], [Windfall], Attack, Health
• x1 [Windfall], [Windfall], Attack, Health
• x1 [Windfall], Attack, Health, Counter triggers Recovery

Attribute Values

• Attack: +38%
• Health: +142.5%
• Counter triggers Recovery: +300

For reference, Burns would deal ~2.2% more damage on Build 1, while all non-Burns would deal ~1% more damage on Build 2.
-# Assuming this is Thunder Scorch with Copper Ward and Incineration

[woeful monolith]

Are you recasting the single Scorching or you just max stat them.

[fierce light]

So in the case of your build, you're dealing ~21.4% (vs build 1) or ~21.6% (vs build 2) less Burn damage on Thunder Scorch.

[zealous patrol]

yes

[untold marsh]

300

[amber terrace]

that my wish fps

[hallow plinth]

is this gamemode dead? I tried queueing up for nirritis hard like you said theres nothing for 14 minutes, maybe im missing peak hours

700 min cap just put me back to ground zero and can't find someone to help me grind back up

[hidden creek]

yeah it's pretty dead

[hallow plinth]

[fickle linden]

you pretty much only find doom/speedrun games quick in the first few days of reset

everyone runs nirriti solo since its faster that way

storymode/holoroth you pretty much do only once in your life so no players in there either

[fierce light]

The time you'd spend in queue, you could probably get 2 runs done before you finish one with a public queue.

But it's also the day before reset, so most have maxed their fatigue by now.

[fickle linden]

if you want to play with others best to look for #🐲┃showdown-lfg or look for a showdown specific chamber

[hallow plinth]

I don't like battle royales really

I am fond of raiding in games

Do boss stats adjust to solo?

[fierce light]

Solo has reduced enemy damage and 40% health.

[woven ingot]

But that's if you choose solo, if you go solo or duo in a trio Nirriti for exemple, the bosses won't be tuned down.

[glacial fable]

Can 2 people do paragon 14 with me before 15 comes out?

[dapper nebula]

How do you dodge this attack in yamas abyss?

Theres no pillars to hide behind

[twin ledge]

Go to the edge it should be far enough away from it

U still have to defuse the one part tho

But if ur doing it in trios u all just have to die it’s bugged

[dapper nebula]

Does the boss positioning matter

[twin ledge]

It shouldn’t

[dapper nebula]

Like you have to get her on one side and run to the other

[twin ledge]

Even if boss was in middle going to the edge will still put u out of range

[dapper nebula]

Or just stand at the side and all guchi

Gotcha will remember for next time

[twin ledge]

But the spikes or whatever it’s called u still have to defuse that

[dapper nebula]

Ye

[twin ledge]

If u need help beating it I can help if ur na

[dapper nebula]

It doesnt reset for a long time right

[twin ledge]

Wym

Like Yama itself?

[dapper nebula]

Yeah

[twin ledge]

If so think like 50 days left not to many

[dapper nebula]

Cuz I'm like 850 sense or whatever so I have a lot of time to progress still

I'll slug through it, thanks tho

[twin ledge]

Ok

[fierce light]

1. Go out of range so the stun doesn't hit you (bugged in trios).

• Defuse the initial shockwave (easier up close to the boss) when she sends her hand outward.
• Dodge towards the boss to avoid the chains.

[zealous patrol]

i spam defuse in trios

usually when im helping new players it doesn't matter in lower floors

and in higher floors im doing it alone

[twin ledge]

Huh

[dapper nebula]

whos the fastest at farming ruins hard?

[twin ledge]

In my opinion tarka

I do ruin 2 to 3 minutes everytime with tarka

[dapper nebula]

He kills the trash mobs fast?

[twin ledge]

Yea

[dapper nebula]

whats ur trash mob rotation

ranged?

[twin ledge]

Don’t use range much

I don’t use much

[fierce light]

Tarka, Yueshan, and Ziping my fastest 3. Sturdy Weapon is helpful for taking up mobs that are high up.

[zealous patrol]

yueshan is pretty slow

rather just tarka then use ranged

tarka's defuse also easier to use

some times i really wished that they add a toggle for the gold attack after charges

that thing on yueshan does nothing and is slow af

and some times you accidentally trigger it after dashing

[dapper nebula]

Yeah i figured ziping is fast cuz of her spin

Was wondering if theres any way better

I get like 7min runs if i have decent rng on cards

[fierce light]

I spam Overcomer on him. Can charge up Thunderpull with it in one go. On bosses you just Ult, Skill, Horizontal, Parry, Charged Vertical, Parry and the boss is usually dead without being able to do anything.

Managed a 2:46 run with that

[twin ledge]

Yueshan is fast

Literally on par with Tarka in ruins

[dapper nebula]

How dependant on cards is it

I just mash cards that have the right sect at this point cuz i spend too much time reading

[fierce light]

Need at least Thunder Blessing I. Lotus Blessing helps too if you get Mighty Lotus Counter and Lotus Orbit.

Tarka Fireball spam is helpful when fighting mobs on different platforms if you don't have Sturdy Weapon.

[dapper nebula]

Sturdy weapon is what ring? I cant find it

[twin ledge]

Middle one

[fierce light]

That combined with Elemental Confluence will guarantee you kill small mobs within 2 shots

[dapper nebula]

kk so cannon is good for yueshan if you have those

[fierce light]

Other Ranged Rings are kinda useless in comparison to High Roller and Wealth Confluence.

[idle tree]

I have everywhere iceblast+30% and 8 windfalls so why there is missing 0.1%? is it a bug or what xD

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Saiyan leveled up!

[fierce light]

Sometimes an attribute will appear to be maxed, but it's not

You'll have to go through using Value Recast to see what attributes you can still adjust.

[idle tree]

Super weird because i had 360% then I get 2nd windfall +50% on a souljade and got 374.9 instead 375.
I also checked which attributes I can recast value and there is none i can.

[tender kelp]

need help running a mission

on hard mode

immovable mission

[analog aspen]

Guys isn't it faster to do nightscream missions on morus isle instead of nirriti hard for farming? The drops should be the same and you can do a nightscream mission in less than 1 minute

When doing nirriti it usually takes more than twice the time it shows after the match

[fierce light]

Chapter Missions are limited to 1 Carved Crystal per boss. So in terms of efficiency, it would be the worst of the 3 options at the moment. Only more efficient in possible Rune Keys.

[analog aspen]

Hmm ok thx, I didn't know about the limitation of carved crystals

[queen ether]

i know this may be a bit of a big ask, but could someone party with me for the none shall pass wave defense mission in showdown? all of the people when i just select fill have been absolute goobers 😢

and it took almost 20 minutes both times just to get a lobby

[twin ledge]

After i finish my fatigue i can prob help

[queen ether]

thx so much

tryna complete the main quests, and so far ive done all of em solo, but after thirty-something tries i decided to just try and find help

2679500150169

[twin ledge]

I’m almost done

[queen ether]

im online

discord doesnt say it idk why

[twin ledge]

Ok on last game and I’ll send

[twin ledge]

I sent u a game invite

[queen ether]

just finished a run

[queen ether]

you sure?

[twin ledge]

I didn’t send friends request I’m maxed so I sent a game invite

[queen ether]

would that be under the social tab?

it just popped up 🥲

it expired

[twin ledge]

Think just gonna take break till reset my game tweaking

[queen ether]

okie

[twin ledge]

Game on weird crap today

[fierce light]

Finally Citrine.

[woven ingot]

You're playing since too long ^^

[fierce light]

700 day achievement.

[signal kite]

Holy cow I'm almost half way there like 46 ,, but u dawg 🛐🛐🛐 og player have my respect 🛐🛐🛐

Are u the first person in naraka to get that ?

Coz I've never seen anyone with that citrine badge

[fierce light]

Doubt it since I took a break in 1.0

[signal kite]

Damn

[twin ledge]

I have 2 friends at 111 and 110

[hidden creek]

36

[signal kite]

They have more of my respect

[dapper nebula]

What does doom mode drop?

[hidden creek]

same souljades with corresponding nightscream stages but with better rate (due to the omens) iirc

[woven ingot]

Less slacking!

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Migosha leveled up!

[hidden creek]

🥹 am not, i do speedrun everyweek

[woven ingot]

You must have missed some? You should be higher than 36 shouldn't you?

[ebon parrot]

guys, anyh tips on paragon 6?

do i go for boss first or the elite monsters first

[woven ingot]

Go for the elites (if it's the Priests) the bosses will follow you anyway.
The priest lightning does very high damage, you don't want to fight the boss with those spaming that and explosive skeletons.

[ebon parrot]

oki

thanks ima go try rn

[hidden creek]

yeah like first few weeks ig, but i also started doing showdown late