👾┃showdown

[amber terrace]

they spawn at same time

[shrewd basin]

Y’all are masochist

I swear

[woven ingot]

We prepare for the worst. So at worst we got what we prepared for. At best ... it's less pain than we thought!

[amber terrace]

imagine they add 3 boss in same time

damm

[fickle linden]

3 rocks with 8 phases

let's make it fun for the playeers

[amber terrace]

then

just defuse or dead

[fickle linden]

i die

[shrewd basin]

I hope y’all get Rock maticore and bough triple boss

You deserve it

[woven ingot]

Doesn't matter which, as soon as it's double boss I despise the fight.

[fickle linden]

https://tenor.com/view/one-two-gif-22749558

gotta keep eye on every boss

[woven ingot]

That. Except my eyes can't do it.

[shrewd basin]

Triple boss easy

Just instal hack fly up then shoot a nuke

Ez win

[fierce light]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1052311236466970754/1352752068233789521/image.png?ex=67df2809&is=67ddd689&hm=61a299479911841c97d8d09dd58e492e1b54269c90fd51b3e882de56ebf3a05a&=&width=1635&height=810

It's not letting me update it some reason, but here you go:

[hearty rivet]

Frog! And mermaids (sortof).

[amber terrace]

frog is mini boss for sure but mermaids it's no

[short meadow]

Why viper ning is weak with ice lotus? Afaik before viper was one of the strongest hero with ice build

[fierce light]

Her Weapon DPS is rather low and even though she has a strong ability, she still takes rather long to activate Ice Blast compared to other Heroes with a strong ability (~4s vs <3s for others).

[amber terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/faint-omg-pass-out-fall-elmo-gif-8540902822064990640

[hidden creek]

more like back then she's the only one who could run ice mod

[fierce light]

It's mainly her weapon holding her back

[hidden creek]

then we got tessa and zip release, we got feria yueshan matari reworks

that make them better than viper in making use of element mod builds

[short meadow]

Did we got yushan rework!!!

[hidden creek]

yeah

he's broken after rework

still one of the strongest character atm

holy fak there's still 75 days left til new season

[amber terrace]

first time yueshan release

he is so good

then flop after that

and he comeback now

[hearty rivet]

Plenty of time to enjoy all of our gs and staff curios 🙃

[hidden creek]

i play showdown for the skins 🥹

[hearty rivet]

Random question, is it just me or peak gives fewer purple/gold souljades and a lot more crystals (like 1.5-2 times than a couple of weeks ago) lately? 🧐

[hearty rivet]

I... think that is a good coping mechanism strategy.

[fierce light]

Hope we get the Curios on the 10th instead of 24th

[hidden creek]

[fierce light]

Should be finished with my Ice build by then

[woven ingot]

Tabbie likes to show off.

[hidden creek]

aside from my ''luck'' i haven't showoff anything

[woven ingot]

That makes sense I guess.

[fierce light]

https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1352756202072703006

[fierce light]

Proof of the Successive Ice Blast bug, holy sh** this is bad.

It's part of an old bug with Successive Ice Blast.

[timid stirrup]

i thought it was if there were 3 ice builds. that was only 2 ppl

[amber terrace]

[twin ledge]

They prob wasn’t really testing it before

So guessing people were finding out when doing trios Yama

[fierce light]

Used to be a bug where you could only proc Ice Blast on one mob at a time

Wasn't that big of an issue before though since it was usually enough to kill them and there would only be 1 Ice Build user at the most.

[lucid ore]

[hidden creek]

[woven ingot]

Working as intended! Or not.
This one and muskets tends to go wrong for me too. Muskets only for the first shot.

[signal kite]

At this point farming feels totally brainrot it's the same ahh shit again and again

[hidden creek]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

hope new farming stage is interesting

[ancient bronze]

where does "Ghastbloom" jade drop?

[hidden creek]

manticore hunt nightscream
nirriti nightscream and legend
enigma peak

[ancient bronze]

tyvm

[bright skiff]

Nirriti nightscream

[hidden creek]

?

[plain spire]

i only farm at 150% then stop, the game is getting boring.

[bright skiff]

Wanna farm

[fickle linden]

go farm tabbie

[radiant cedar]

im with him ^^'

I think...

[fierce light]

I just wanna max my Ice build and get a Thunder Lotus Scorch build going, then ima take it easy as well.

It's looking promising for even off-meta heroes.

[timid stirrup]

what jades r in this TLS build? is it the tscorch v2 that tabbie posted previously?

[fierce light]

Yeah

[timid stirrup]

interesting... i just so happen to have started working on tscorch at the end of last season. good to know i can continue building it after i finish my ilm

thanx @fierce light

[fierce light]

It's kinda sweaty build, but here's it in action: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1GyXeYxENv/?vd_source=e436bcf4333345077b464ebf0fc7cf19

[timid stirrup]

were the lotuses white cuz elemental lotus wasnt used? i thought they shouldve been the color of the element

[fierce light]

You use the same potential as Thunder Scorch

If they aren't white, you won't charge Thunderpull as fast.

[steep patio]

is this getting is damage off of the scorching or counters?

[fierce light]

Scorching, it's still a Burn build

[steep patio]

why no copper, i just seen another player run the same build with no copper for ice peak

[hidden creek]

trade burn dmg for more thunder counter

[fierce light]

It uses Thunderous Lotus for extremely fast charge speed even while you're not attacking.

Nearly doubles the speed you charge Thunderpull even while attacking.

[woven ingot]

Bad Tabbie, bad!

[steep heart]

hi everyone

does anyone wanna run showdown with me?

[analog aspen]

this build with burn is stonger for yama's abyss than thunder lotus with ghastbloom and thunder elemental dmg right?

[uneven mason]

Hey everyone! I'm trying to complete the main quest in Showdown I still need to finish Immovable Doom with all stars and Together We Stand speedrun If anyone is up for it let me know!

[fickle linden]

try #🐲┃showdown-lfg

[spring prairie]

can someone help me with two yama stages?

[fierce light]

The issue with Thunder Lotus is that it takes forever to charge up unless you have a strong ability or multiple enemies to fight against in which it would just be better to run Ice Lotus.

So Thunder Lotus Scorch is more ideal due to its really fast charge rate.

I'll be making some calculations on Thunder Lotus when I finish up on Thunder Scorch vs Thunder Lotus Scorch.

[analog aspen]

Thx for the explanation

[timid stirrup]

@fierce light just want 2 verify that this is the thunder lotus scorch or tscorch v2 build?

[dusky cosmos]

that's tscorch v2

[fierce light]

Same build, just different name.

[steep patio]

is there a point of wasting money for elixer>?, im getting 3 crystals on hard nirriti with 150% drops

[fickle linden]

i dont see point in wasting money

[hearty rivet]

Don't use potion for nirriti, it's better to use it in either enigma peak or enigma topazif you can't peak yet and only with gold key.

[short meadow]

Duck!!!

[fierce light]

Only point in using it for Nirriti's Ruins is to cut on some time. Better value to use it on Gold Key Enigma Peak.

[spring prairie]

yo my brother I dont need help anymore but still thx

[amber terrace]

if u need crystals, use on nirriti. If u need frag, use on peak

[short meadow]

[hearty rivet]

Ok, that's fair. I just never ran out of crystals, so didn't even think of that possibility 😅

[amber terrace]

i have 1K frag now

but crystals is 100

lmao

[hearty rivet]

I'm... kinda jealous 😔

[fierce light]

You must have a good Enigma team

[amber terrace]

with max luck build on per player

[fierce light]

Oh

Ugh I don't want to build one, runs so slow with it

[shrewd basin]

I’ll take some fragments

[amber terrace]

3x Windfall, 1x Luck on per jades

[fierce light]

Oh that's max max luck wtf

[hearty rivet]

Okay, huh... just checked and I did kinda manage to lower my crystal stockpile to 108 with like 300-ish fragments in unconverted souljades 👀

[amber terrace]

i go peak so much then it not fit with my crystals now

until i reroll jade

[hearty rivet]

I've been lazy for a while and been doing only peak for first 600 fatigue and then a couple of nirriti. Exhausted my fatigue only on suffer no demons weeks.

[woven ingot]

Someone is going to spend weeks in Nirriti 😂

[amber terrace]

i spend 0 fatigue on week

cuz i'm boring showdown now

[hearty rivet]

Nooooooooooo 😭

[amber terrace]

wait new update on june

then i'll grind again

[fierce light]

Curio system is coming in April

Takes so darn long to make a build though

[fickle linden]

content!

[dusky cosmos]

just double checking that our sense level/souljades don't reset with each season right? i've read they don't but my word if we had to do this every season that would be rough

[fierce light]

Attributes and Hero Level are permanent. Sense Level is too but they raise the cap every half season and raise the floor + cap for full seasons, so it's like being reset.

[dusky cosmos]

ah, ok. is the grind each season as bad as the grind from 0/floor -> cap?

[fierce light]

Not really, the longest grind is getting the right attributes

Hopefully the curio system doesn't change that

[woven ingot]

No, the first grind is the hard one. When the cap increases on a new season you need 2 weeks to max or something like that.

[dusky cosmos]

👍 and i assume a well rolled jade is still a well rolled jade you just have to level it up again

[fierce light]

Enigma Domain takes a few weeks to open at first so it's mostly Nirriti's Ruins grind for a bit.

[dusky cosmos]

its finally over

[fierce light]

Noice, now you can do all the content

[steep patio]

whats this sceen?

[amber terrace]

up to max lvl sense

[fierce light]

Sense Leveling screen

They automated it sometime back. So newbies won't put all their levels in one jade, losing xp value.

[amber terrace]

ok

[bronze wharf]

Bruh !

[hidden creek]

the design is very human

[signal kite]

Xiao Yi Xian 2E

[fierce light]

Lol and that one gold put you over the catch up

[real remnant]

Hi guys, can someone explain me something about showdown? More exactly season challenge. Never Strikes Twice - Counter a Divine Thunder once.

[quaint girder]

Divine Thunder is thunder that drops down on you when your thunder meter fills.

In order to counter it you either need the Souljade Thunder Counter to counter it when it comes in OR when playing Nirriti pick the Thunder Element Blessings at the beginning and then only pick Elemental Blessing Anima Rings. I believe at 4 rings you get the ability to counter Divine Thunder

[real remnant]

Thanks for help 🙂

[woven ingot]

It's 4 of them yes.

[real remnant]

I tried it so many times in place of counter I did defuse and I was wondering why it won't work 😂

[olive bay]

is enigma peak worth it with only the regular rune key

[fickle linden]

@olive bay

you can see rewards from the dark zero post

[olive bay]

ok ty

[fickle linden]

but yeah not worth really

if you have motivation to do nirriti still

[astral widget]

paragon 12 eu who want?

[wide wraith]

Sorry if this is common knowledge. Searching failed me. Are there any tips to get the last few anima rings to complete a collection? I feel like I do run after run, but either don't see the couple I need or get it right at the end. Any way to increase chance of getting the upgrade scrolls?

[fierce light]

Unfortunately it's all RNG, but going only for rings among the same Collection does seem to increase the chances of them appearing.

Going for rings of other collections will also unlock more rings you don't want so avoid that when possible.

[wide wraith]

Thanks. That's what I figured. Guess I'll just keep doing run after run.

[timid stirrup]

any tips to solo p11?

[fierce light]

Kill Iron Tianfei as fast as possible. Some skills can stun the mobs before the split up, keeping them in place.

[woven ingot]

Souljades per fatigue shouldn't be the same for Enigma and Peak. As they both cost the same fatigue and got different SJ per run, isn't it?

[fierce light]

Same quantity of Souljades from both

[woven ingot]

Right ti's really SJ and not fragments.

[fierce light]

Yeah only the bottom 2 rows are about Fragments

[chrome seal]

Also cleanse stones are useless in my opinion
Even legend is winnable without rolling anima cards by only having the 2refresh options

[hidden creek]

it's not mandatory but also not useless

you use it to speed up your run

in case you got bad rolls

[fierce light]

Probably the main reason they added so many junk Anima Rings

[chrome seal]

I get that but the value of those isn't justified to be in the batlepass after lvl80
They could give golden keys instead for example
Or even just shards or crystals
Good anima rings are obviously very nice to get but this thing is overvalued by the game for some reason and doesn't give much, while in PvP BP you get chests
Like, how is cleanse stone equal to chests

[hidden creek]

well that's the issue of showdown bp value being shit as a whole

[plain spire]

They don't love showdown players

[drifting lance]

🎉 | ƒisher[SEA] leveled up!

[amber terrace]

they should add gold rune key or frag/crystal in BP

[hidden creek]

nah

[amber terrace]

and this stone nearly useless rn

[limpid pecan]

actually worse than useless

if not this stone

we would be +200 silk on these tiers at least

[hidden creek]

more actual cosmetics, showdown seals and silk

and update showdown shop more frequently

[limpid pecan]

ye it even still sells

the peerless chest

[amber terrace]

BP on PvP even get 2 items

[hidden creek]

keys and crystals/frags/sj is what you get for just playing the game

[amber terrace]

but showdown BP just get silk and trash stone

[plain spire]

return gold would be nice same in BR BP

[hidden creek]

when we purchase bp we should expect something that someone who didn't purchase it couldn't get

[chrome seal]

That's what am talking about

[limpid pecan]

the jades and stuff is kinda crap too

coz its basically p2w

u get more resources for paying

[hidden creek]

heh

[amber terrace]

i need more chests to get some skin

[hidden creek]

as long as cn players are ''fine'' with it they won't change it anyway

[chrome seal]

I bought the showdown battlepass today cause was in a good mood and went for an impulsive purchase

Now I regret it lol

Am at around 250lvl I think
Obv it's not expensive
But it definitely is a bad purchase
Basically only got the 1 flux

[hidden creek]

i purchase showdown bp for the skins only, literally

[chrome seal]

Obv I saw what I was buying
But it's just shit I somehow agreed to lol

[amber terrace]

and trash effect martial =))

[chrome seal]

Yes the attack I never use xd

[zealous patrol]

like nothing useful beside the skins and effects

and the red jade at the end

[hidden creek]

i don't even care about that flux lol

i get scorching 4 times in a row on non burn build anyway

1 flux doesn't change shit

[chrome seal]

I didn't like those skins
Effects aren't cool either
So what if my Tessa defuse is now red instead of yellow xd
I just bought it for the 1flux ig
Even with already having an almost maxed out ilm build

Welp basically my bad for the poor decision making on that
Am just madge now

[amber terrace]

tf, is this lyrics of song?

[chrome seal]

Lol why has it tripled

I think u need to restart ur app

[amber terrace]

nope

it's plugin show history chat

it show any deleted/edited chat

[chrome seal]

Ah
Well anyway
The showdown BP is shit in my opinion and I regret buying it lol

[fierce light]

Ah i have that too

Makes me wonder how they're going to do the Yueshan PvE ult skin

[hidden creek]

probably just purchase with gold

as usual

[amber terrace]

this skin?

[fierce light]

Yup

Dang no luck getting the last Windfall this week

[prime wren]

What do these rune keys do?

[hidden creek]

to enter enigma domain/enigma peak

[steep patio]

using gold ones gives you 3000+ luck

[flat pier]

for thunder lotus sj, do we use thunder wielding or other element for faster thunder build up?

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Vang GummyBear leveled up!

[steep patio]

thunder

[flat pier]

last season, we used to use ice/poison wielding for thunder counter build, for faster thunder build up so we can counter more frequently though

not applicable this season anymore?

[hidden creek]

that's not thunder build

that's thunderscorch build

which doesn't deal damages with thunder counters but the scorching effect that comes with it

[flat pier]

oh i see

so we go thunder wielding for thunder lotus build

got it tabbie, tq

[flat pier]

thank you too lain

[woven ingot]

Wait that Vinemire like look isn’t for a boss but it’s supposed to be Yueshan new ult form in pve?

[signal kite]

Thunder lotus build in the economy of ice buff , mehh

[hidden creek]

it's a skin for his V, prolly just an accessory that changes his V appearance

[woven ingot]

Alright. Like we already have some for him. It looks quite good. Not sure I’ll prefer that one over the current gold/metal skin tho.

[hearty rivet]

Was Yueshan Vinemire all the time or did he decide to wear his skin for some reason? 😱

[stoic rapids]

can someone show me how to setup the buttons when playing with a controller?.?

[hidden creek]

isn't it you can't remap on controller?

[stoic rapids]

I thought can rebutton to easy to play

[timid stirrup]

it depends on ur play style really. they have premade setups and u can custom remap them also

[fierce light]

Think the skin's description mentioned him dawning the armor of the Vinemire

[fickle linden]

what are the chances that it will be in the next showdown battlepass?

1%? 0.5%?

[stoic rapids]

Can i setup dash defend in 1 button?.?

[timid stirrup]

dash defend? i dont believe so

[lucid ore]

Could try with steam input or 3rd party app for multi button press

Assign those paddle for that maybe

[fierce light]

Defusing I'm guessing. Don't think it's possible to put in one button though since it expects you to start charging

[waxen cloud]

why on earth does ominus have 4 freaking healthbars on nightscream solo

[analog aspen]

in total he should have the same healt as other bosses I think

[waxen cloud]

he changes form to the rock tentancle dude, then changes back to normalx, then changes back again

getting a full health bar every time

[wide wraith]

I'm such an idiot. I finally realized it's good to hold onto the free resets to use on the first ring drop after a boss when I'm trying to get specific gold rings. Finally got all the rings (minus 3 secrets: useless rock, the one after useless rock, and another one) in my collection after figuring that out. now another to work towards the last 3 secrets... 😂

[fierce light]

Those health bars go down pretty fast once you're built, but yeah each phase has different attacks as well

[timid stirrup]

useless rock and anima after it r easier to get when using viper, tarka, temulch, matari, and i believe yoto also

[wide wraith]

Yeah, I was reading that. Been mainly using tarka, viper, and yoto for most of my runs. Thanks though. Also learned the other one I'm missing is Divine Army and it's only in NS and Legend difficulty. 😄

[timid stirrup]

yea if u played last season u could get it in hard difficulty but now its locked to NS/legend

[woven ingot]

And it's 200% RNG-styled too.

[quaint girder]

Is it? I think I got it on Hard this season

[hidden creek]

you could get it from hard

the only ring require nightscream and above is divine army from the sky

[fierce light]

Only possible way to get them as they're no extreme attacks for other weapons

[amber terrace]

finally my kuzumi has F effect

[fierce light]

Oh nice

[normal socket]

does thunderscorch use hydro flame potential?

[median eagle]

is there anyone wants to play with boy kuzumi?

[fierce light]

Yes

[round glacier]

Thundersorch still top in yama or ice the way to go?

Time to try par 4 again lol

[hidden creek]

if solo, depends on the stage and the character

[round glacier]

Solo

[hidden creek]

if trio then ilm is bugging

[timid stirrup]

@quaint girder @hidden creek I was referring to Divine Army anima being locked into NS/legend this season

[hidden creek]

i swear his reply to your comment wasn't there before lmao

either i'm blind or discord fked up somewhere

[timid stirrup]

all good

i prolly could've worded it better

[sudden pilot]

Does anyone play PvE pinnacle secret realm?

I need a sub-server. Friends play PvE.

I have a lot of skills, and we can play the pinnacle together.

[fierce light]

I think most have maxed or are close to max fatigue right now. So not going to want to run Enigma Peak since it's best run at 150% rewards.

Not sure about any side servers though.

[quaint girder]

What's your main language?

[chrome seal]

What's pinnacle secret realm?

[hidden creek]

chinese for sure

[fierce light]

Pinnacle = Peak
Secret Realm = Enigma (Domain)

[signal kite]

Holy cow that's something new i learned today

[hidden creek]

https://tenor.com/view/holy-cow-holy-cow-gif-25938150

[signal kite]

[signal kite]

I'm gonna touch you, let's see if the luck can save you this time

[idle tree]

It touches me

[shrewd basin]

[shrewd basin]

Lucky break my ass XD

[fathom bobcat]

If they don't make farming easier or increase chances of making successful reforge, then I think sooner or later farming will make my ass fall off.

[fierce light]

https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1351984541497036931

[twin ledge]

Saving for naraka 3

And I don’t see how people have more fragments than crystals at the start of season I had I think around 7k fragments but still had more crystals

[fathom bobcat]

Battlepass and stable enigma peak farming. I had more crystals before that too.

[fathom bobcat]

I support it, but I'm not sure if the developers will listen to non CN players.

[signal kite]

U also need some touchy

[twin ledge]

Yea but I’ve always had at least 800 more crystals than fragments

Like right now I’m out of fragments but have almost 900 crystals think like 867 last time I checked

Like at start of season I think i actually had 9500 crystals should have a screen shot somewhere but like 7500 fragments I’ll try find screenshot but last season I didn’t do any recast only use around 100 fragments weekly to get a flux from random jade

I only used normal burn last season and my thunder was already maxed so basically 2 max builds so had to much mats but somehow 3 of my thunder burn jades took almost half those fragments and other half my ice took

They need to add a pity system for recasting

So I’m confused I mainly farm ruins maybe that’s why I have more crystals at all times?

[fathom bobcat]

I think yes.

in ruins you consistently get more crystals than jades, in my experience

[fierce light]

You get a lot more fragments than crystals from Enigma.

Ruins gives like double the crystals than Enigma.

Mentions it in-game as well.

[twin ledge]

Ik

But don’t see it being that big of a difference

If I’m using elixers most of my fatigue

[fierce light]

I get like 6-8 per run from Nirriti

Enigma gives like 0-4

[twin ledge]

What’s ur catch up at now tho zero?

[fierce light]

I maxed out my fatigue, can't remember what it was

2.6k last I checked at 1600

[twin ledge]

No the achievement

[fierce light]

Oh

One sec

[twin ledge]

Dam almost 100 more how tf

[fierce light]

You build it up slower using elixirs cause less matches

[fickle linden]

is that new achievement in the game? how do i have it closer to 600 than you?

or do you just pop elixirs like its your birthday every week?

or am i just really unlucky

[fierce light]

I rarely use elixirs since I don't buy them

But you barely get Catch Up from Enigma as well when Gold Keys are involved.

[fickle linden]

yeah i don't think i've ever gotten catch up points from peak

i've done some 3boss topaz thought, and those games might have racked up my achievement progress since they only take few minute to clear and eat like no fatigue

[twin ledge]

Oh yea lol

Forgot about that

[fierce light]

I'll probably start doing that while waiting for Enigma Peak teams

[fickle linden]

actually now that i think about it, you gain almost no catch up points from 3bossing topaz

so it's from just 600-2400 nirriti runs then and DnS events

last DnS event probably gave catch up points every single run

[fierce light]

Yeah, 0 Luck from the Omens

[woven ingot]

You'll never get any catchup points there, because you only got them if you finish a "stage". As with 3 bosses method you leave before the end, no catchup will be awarded, no matter how bad loot you get.

[uncut crypt]

Can everyone come together, upvote my recent feedback post, and help by reposting it with the same title/message? let’s make some noise and get noticed!

If we want transfer progress we need to unite for it
https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1354247657228468324

[fierce light]

They've been asking for cross-progression for a while, but I agree

[uncut crypt]

I know we need to unite on this tho, go and support by liking/reposting

[hollow herald]

The new boss Huanyue is pretty

https://youtu.be/B-FQS5XFvAk?t=440

[fathom bobcat]

I believe it's the same female werewolf from one Wu Chen story

[steep patio]

does anyone have a video fo paragon 12 - trios w good time

[hidden creek]

yeah it's her

so she faked her death

[fathom bobcat]

Is it? If I remember correctly, she was “resurrected” back in that story. Or are you talking about something else?

[hidden creek]

that detail only exist in the english version of the story

[fathom bobcat]

👀

[hidden creek]

on the original chinese version wuchen directly called her name which is huanyue, also called her martial senior sister

telling her that omnius is summoning her to morus isle

she refused, they fought, wuchen came out on top

few days later there's words from wolf tribe saying she's dead

but yeah obviously she faked it

but also not coming back to morus

instead she stayed at empyreal village

[fierce light]

I hope it's not a small boss. They're a nightmare to fight on Trios.

[sudden pilot]

Is there anyone on the Golden Ticket Pinnacle Asian server tomorrow morning?😄

[fathom bobcat]

Interesting difference.

[fathom bobcat]

I just hope it won't be an annoying boss with endless attacks like Korvina or Matron Yushan.

[hearty rivet]

based on the trends, she'll have infinite combo variations, random delayed attacks and creative invulnerability phases

[signal kite]

Golden ticket = gold key (i guess )
Pinnacle = peak (i learned the other day )
, apparently he's talking about enigma peak running with gold key

Man I love this guy , he uses unfamiliar new phases from time to time

[waxen oasis]

when does the season reset showdown

[hidden creek]

you can check in game

on season challenge

[fierce light]

It's likely a direct translation from the CN terms.

[dusky cosmos]

man i've been waiting for these test server patch notes to find out more info on the new abilities and it finally drops and nothin 😭

[fierce light]

Very likely we're getting the patch on the 16th with the new system

If not, then it'll be on the 30th sadly

[twin ledge]

New stage out today so only server making videos atm is prob cn

[fickle linden]

pinnacle sounds better than peak

[viscid wraith]

[quaint girder]

Bruh delayed attacks kill me

Makes chain defuse timings so rough

Too much time to defuse, not enough time to input an attack

[shrewd basin]

Dun dun

[quaint girder]

For me it's Korvine herself

[shrewd basin]

Her to

[quaint girder]

Dundun is mostly fine, with defuse timings, but it kinda sucks how I'm wasting a lot of time wasting not attacking anticipating the defuse.

Korvine herself has this annoying mixup

where she does horizontal slash then waits like 2 seconds before following up with a downwards slash

or she'll just immediately go

[shrewd basin]

Did fatigue reset today? Or am I tripping?

[quaint girder]

should be in 3 hours and 15 minutes

[fierce light]

Hopefully they'll have better telegraphs for the different variations.

[signal kite]

Ahh i see

[fierce light]

Would rather not end up with another Omnious Bough.

[shrewd basin]

[fierce light]

Went ahead and made a new chart for the current meta damage sources:
Attack Multiplier
-# How much times your Attack a damage source deals.
Base Multiplier
-# Attack Multiplier when optimal Souljades are equipped and full Potential Tree with no DMG Attributes.
BiS Multiplier
-# Attack Multiplier with maxed out DMG Attributes, optimal Souljades and full Potential Tree.

[steep patio]

what are all the ice builds

for jades

[fierce light]

Ice Lotus:

Successive Ice Blast
Frozen Blast | Arcane Thunder (for mobbing-only)
Sub-Zero Seal | Frostbound Lotus (+5% Attack; Harder to Keep Active)
Tundra Might
Elemental Lotus
Ghastbloom

[steep patio]

thats the best ice?

[fierce light]

Yes

[hearty rivet]

@fierce light is it possible that the ice bug fix in the patchontes is also about the ghastbloom bug too?

[weary plaza]

hi is there a good build for around 760 power?

[hidden creek]

that's not how it works

[steep patio]

depends on your jades

[fierce light]

When you're starting out, it gives you a starter Thunder set from your first clears in Hard.

You get a starter Ice set of jades from Nightscream first clears

[weary plaza]

should i show them?

[steep patio]

yes

[weary plaza]

ok give me a sec

[fierce light]

Proof of the Successive Ice Blast bug, holy sh** this is bad.

[woven ingot]

That means that until now Successive ice blast was playing against us, only doing one hit at 55% and forgetting about the two others?

[fierce light]

Not exactly. If two people activate Successive Ice Blast at the same time, it would ignore one of their Blasts. Whether that's towards the end or early

[woven ingot]

Alright so it's only a multiplayer problem, same as the Ghastbloom one.

[weary plaza]

i got ; ghast bloom , elemental lotus , stormstride sword ,tunder sword, thunderpull ,infectious tourch ,noxious blast ,pestilent pool ,defuse counteratack,defuse sap ,armored artist , desperation ,repair roll, mortal defiance , skyforce , lucky break, icefall, draco stride , detonating rounds, frost and thunder arrow
Epics: aggresor , blue moon , overlord,splitter, netherstep ,vertical blink strike element, aerial rend element ,onslaut element , petal fall flurry element , wild windspout elment , cavalry bloom elem, storm slash elem , wave breaker elem, chained sweeping elem, assasins lunge elem, cyan fang elem , sap ,soul drawing , backfire , quick atk , outrage,iceblash backfire, cloudschorch,solidification,defuse aegis break,defuse thaw , copper wand , guardian ,warrior , basalt armor ,cinderfrost,enrage,craftsmanship,blessed ,group heal ,swift heal ,focus slide , fire arrow , flamebreath ,gunpowder , shattershot enchange,aegis break shot .

[fierce light]

Since it would erase part of or all of your Ice Blasts, it would prevent you from summoning Lotus and therefore less Ghastblooms.

[fierce light]

For now you could run:

• Noxious Blast, Pestilent Pool, Infectious Touch, Elemental Lotus, Ghastbloom & Solidification.

Sadly, you're missing Toxified Lotus, so it's going to be a bit less effective, but should still get the job done.

[weary plaza]

i ll give it a try thx

i also got some essences

carved crystals and souljade fragments

should i use them?

and 2 shrouded jade

[fierce light]

Save them for now, Poison isn't really meta atm, but it does have the advantage of having a strong start.

[weary plaza]

i have thunder and ice essence as well ,

[shrewd basin]

Anyone want to run peak once Fatigue resets?

[weary plaza]

Whats the best way to level up jades? i mean to farm blue ones ?

[fierce light]

Nirriti's Ruins until you're strong enough to clear Enigma Topaz.

[dusky cosmos]

what is the full thunder rotation?

regarding the bar chart, that is

seems surprising thunder is so high? i guess im probably closer to base damage of them with my jades, but doesn't seem like it's doing twice as much damage. usually the same or less than ice

[fierce light]

• x1 Thunder Counter
  -# All 4 parries.
• x1 Divine Thunder
• x4 Blossom Blast • Thunder
• x32 Lotus Impact • Thunder
  -# Lotus last for 16s, Thunderous Lotus makes them hit 2/s.

Got a decently fast run with some randos

[woven ingot]

"None shall pass". I know which one of the 4 dooms I'll be dropping this week 😂

[fierce light]

It's not so bad as long as everyone sticks to their lane till the bosses spawn

[woven ingot]

Yeah. Nope.
We only need 3 dooms done out of the 4, no reasons to do 4 of them. So I'm clearly voting out on None Shall Pass. Everyone on his lane is working well, but if you're not in the middle lane, it's deadly boring to have nothing to do 60-70% of the run ^^'

[hearty rivet]

wait none shall pass is the Centralia map with the square in the middle and no middle lane 👀

[woven ingot]

Ah it's the other one?
Same vote still 😂

[fierce light]

Yeah mainly good if everyone can clear around the same speed. If anyone branches off, even during the ambush part, it'll slow the spawns quite a bit

[timid stirrup]

@fierce light what jades r being used in that thunder rotation? TLS (Thunder Lotus Scorch)?

[fierce light]

Thunder Lotus Scorch

Thunder Lotus

[timid stirrup]

so the rule applies to both builds? minus scorching multiplier that is

[fierce light]

Rule?

Wow 3-Boss Topaz is crazy fast in comparison to Peak

[fickle linden]

yep it's really fast

and so easy you can do it fast on any character if you need hero xp or weapon xp while you do it

[timid stirrup]

sorry i meant rotation. where is the blossom blast - thunder coming from?

also, i realized i worded my first question incorrectly. my mention of TLS was me guessing that was the jade set being used, but im unsure where the blossom blast would come from according to that rotation

[fierce light]

Well first are you talking about Thunder Lotus (w/ Scorching) or Thunder Lotus Scorch (a Hydroflare focused build)?

[timid stirrup]

oh i never knew there was a different option for scorch. i was under the impression that TLS(hydroflare) was the only choice. as thunder lotus on ur site says 12x wf no mention of a scorching option

[fierce light]

Okay for the Thunder Lotus Scorch build, Mighty Lotus Counter summons the Lotus when you parry. Thunderous Lotus makes these Lotus spin around you twice as fast and build more Thundershock charge than normal.

[timid stirrup]

and this is played as a hydroflare build correct?

i guess my confusion is it states parry 4x for thunder counter. whereas hydroflare is traditionally 2x parry i believe

[fierce light]

Parry 4x where?

Here's an example of a Thunder Lotus Scorch rotation on Viper Ning, when you have at least 3 Lotus going:

[fierce light]

That's referencing this, which is Thunder Lotus (Divine Thunder) build.

[fierce light]

Rotation in that case is only including the Elemental Damage or Hydroflare DMG. No Weapon DMG included.

[timid stirrup]

ah thats where my confusion lies. i didnt read that last section as double scorching

my apologies

[plain spire]

This build needs scorching/mod ?
Is this better than Thunder lotus scorch ?

[ashen horizon]

Rotation in that case is only including the Elemental Damage or Hydroflare DMG. No Weapon DMG included.

[fierce light]

I renamed it to hopefully make more sense:

[fierce light]

Thunder Lotus can do without them, Moderation being a good option for those with strong abilities, Scorching for those without.

Whether or not it's better than Thunder Lotus Scorch, I haven't tested, but likely not cause of the crazy charge time.

[fierce light]

Is it hard?

[lyric roost]

4 bosses, I think, or 3, I forget.

@fierce lightand there's ice on the floor

[fierce light]

Bout to try it

[lyric roost]

2 denemede geçtim

[lyric roost]

I passed in 2 attempts

[lyric roost]

okey goodluck

waiting for your results

[fickle linden]

oh its open

damn gotta try it before sleep

[fierce light]

Ew it's Vinemire and Omnious Bough

[hearty rivet]

I soooo knew it 😭

[fickle linden]

bough camping next to ice mound throwing ranged attacks while vinemire tanks me

and then rushes me with the lazer attack

[fierce light]

It's not that bad once you kill off Vinemire. But Bough still annoying to fight

[fickle linden]

atleast they not eerie

[fierce light]

Running around everywhere and mixups you can't tell till it throws it out.

Updated the Yama's Table

[fickle linden]

huh

bro said 4 bosses

it's just these 2?

[dusky cosmos]

i know this seems like a dumb question based on Darks charts he posted, but do we think Thunder, in general, might be buffed?

or does it seem like the devs are happy with it

i feel like once its going it has good dps but the ramp time is so long compared to others, also it doesn't seem to scale with the amount of enemies, as in it's good vs 1 enemy and that's about it

[fierce light]

The last two patches buffed it

[dusky cosmos]

in your opinion, do you think the last 2 patches were enough?

[fierce light]

I haven't gotten around to parsing it, but it does look promising.

The fact that it's very single-target though hurts it quite a bit.

[dusky cosmos]

i feel like for someone starting out, as much as thunder was fun i should go for an ice build? another valda meme build, of course, but an ice build?

[fierce light]

It gives you Thunderpull, Thunder Counter and Thunderproof from first clears, so Thunder build is definitely feasible when starting off. Ice build requires at least enough Potential Level to get Frost Douse before it's truly viable.

[dusky cosmos]

yeah i mean i guess i'm not that new, i just got to 1120, have 40 potential and have all jades

its really a question, where do i invest my fragments and flux jades first?

[fierce light]

Yeah, you only really want to invest in an Ice build or Scorch build rn

[fickle linden]

maxed my substats

300 shards for like 0.8% attack and 0.4% frozen blast gain

so not worth it

but atleast everything is pretty now, nothing but 4% and 30% in my jades!

and few 50% and 25% of course

also new recasting is so gooooood, hide popup and recast x5

[fierce light]

Nice, you past me

[fickle linden]

still got 1.8k shards idk if i should max my old poison build or save for new season

so many days left in this season anyway

or tscorch

[fickle linden]

well, you got poison build all nice and done

but we are gonna need shards next season for mega awesome ranged builds!

[fierce light]

Unfortunately it's with Arcane Thunder

Which ends up doing less than Miasma Drive, just more comfortable ig.

[lyric roost]

@fierce lightDid you make it?

[fierce light]

Oh, yeah

4:16 with Yueshan

[lyric roost]

very good

[amber terrace]

anything new in test?

[dusky cosmos]

why does DunDun seem to randomly die at like 30% health all the time?

[hidden creek]

It got two weak spots at its head and tail, you broke them it dies immediately

[amber terrace]

oh they fix bug

ice blast bug

add more train

[fierce light]

Yeah, can use it at full strength finally

[sudden pilot]

Is anyone playing the Golden Ticket to the top now?

[shrewd basin]

Am I doing this right?

[dusky cosmos]

yeah, you could upgrade your moderations to 25%

[shrewd basin]

When I have the mats I will

[short meadow]

what's the max iceblast % on ice lotus build?

[drifting lance]

🎉 | LordDuck leveled up!

[amber terrace]

375

[fierce light]

375% with 8 [Windfall]'s.

[short meadow]

Okey. I'm currently 363 %

Missing 1 windfall

[flat pier]

anyone know how to do this?

[plain spire]

When you have bad drop you get catch up points

[lone umbra]

@fierce light @hidden creek is venomous lotus better than miasma drive for plm?

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Neel leveled up!

[hidden creek]

dunno, i run arcane thunder, never bothered to try venomous lotus

[fickle linden]

miasma drive is better for bosses, venomous lotus is better for mobbing

that's what i heard last from dark

[bronze wharf]

[hidden creek]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-laughing-gif-13031147940704744720

[fickle linden]

https://tenor.com/view/john-krasinski-jim-the-office-office-gif-15508780473272374119

[woven ingot]

Tabbie full of energy.

[hidden creek]

[woven ingot]

That’s soooo my kind of moment. Except there would be 2 elites instead of one, so i can die during the stun.

I can’t remember seeing that Matari outfit. Which is it?

[hidden creek]

pioneer treasure

[fickle linden]

at first glance i was like "lannie in showdown?!?"

similar colour outfit

[woven ingot]

I had the same reaction. Oh Lannie. Wait Lannie but it’s showdown. Huh.
Pioneer, I see. Hence i m not familiar with it.

[chrome seal]

U guys wanna farm peak? Noone replying on LFG thread

[fierce light]

Only for mobbing.

[signal kite]

Just get unlucky to get catchup points

[fierce light]

Dang, not bad for 3-Boss

[fickle linden]

sheesh

[quaint girder]

600 games where you earn catchup points.

Its a long achievement. Don't expect to complete it unless you're intentionally sacking yourself by doing Enigma Brown Key runs.

[fickle linden]

[hidden creek]

[shrewd basin]

Ha nerds

[fickle linden]

every 4th match i get catch up points

[fierce light]

Nirriti's Ruins feels guaranteed to give catch up

Not really a good thing though since it means you got below average drops.

[quaint girder]

I grind brown keys

The Exp Gain for ranged weapons is really good there to level up ranged weapons to 25

[fickle linden]

i like to do nirriti to stack up crystals

and golden keys

[fierce light]

I only use Brown Keys for 3-Boss strat or when someone needs help with Enigma Peak and I'm past 150%.

[river stratus]

[fierce light]

Dang yall got some bad luck

[twin ledge]

Way ur going u could get 600 before end of season lol

I’ve had extremely bad luck on mine too but only like half of that because I use elixers mostly every week through my fatigue

[twin ledge]

I wonder if it will ever be a reset on it

[river stratus]

if yes It should be written somewhere

[fierce light]

Dang Thunder Lotus Scorch is sweaty.

[warped falcon]

and you make it look easy 😆

[tawdry idol]

guys

How can I increase my sense level in the fastest way possible

[shrewd basin]

Run story til NS to universal higher sl jades then run either Enigma or Ruins

[timid stirrup]

how did u build TLS so quickly lol

[fierce light]

It's barely built, I just managed to get Scorching on Thunderous Lotus.

[tawdry idol]

Thank you Megatronous prime

[tacit nest]

whos on for peak?

[north lynx]

I just rolled 2 max stats on thunder lotus counter I'm very excited for this

[coarse night]

Hello is anyone willing to help me and a friend idk if it's even possible to get plat 1 at yama, we want the rewards 😄

[north lynx]

Unfortunately thunderous and mighty both rolled windfall

[north lynx]

I'm down if u have a third

[tacit nest]

i dont

unfortunately

[north lynx]

Well still down if u find one

[heady quail]

I'm down to help whatever

[tacit nest]

na?

[heady quail]

Yessir

11488000040169

[tacit nest]

you na?

[north lynx]

I am also na

[tacit nest]

whats the code

[north lynx]

1215200120164

[heady quail]

Mines above

[fierce light]

Other jades don't have Scorching?

[north lynx]

2 do

But they each have 2 rares on it

[fierce light]

Ah

[north lynx]

6 scorching buns tho idk

Even 9 feels mid

[fierce light]

Yeah i tried using it at 9 Scorching, felt too bad

But you're only doing 50% damage with 6 and 75% with 9 so makes sense.

I tried running it for Paragon 13, but that's too much solo at least

[twin ledge]

It doesn’t say anything about that being reset

[fierce light]

The other unlocks don't seem to reset

[shrewd basin]

@fierce light would this work how I think it would after the update?

[fierce light]

• Solidification wouldn't help much for Thunder. It's Elemental Burst even with that would take a lot to activate.
• Aegis-break Shot wouldn't synergize much with it since Burns don't care about enemy Aegis state.

Would probably better better off with Shattered Edge, Thunderproof, Repair Roll, Quick Attack, or Incineration.

[shrewd basin]

But Draco thunder pull and counter are good choices?

So something like this

[twin ledge]

What does shattered edge do again?

Cause I don’t that would work

[fierce light]

I'd still say wait

Cause they're adding a different ranged system anyway

[fierce light]

Possibly, but you'd have to play up-close which can make it hard to headshot.

Also without Thunderproof you won't be able to double scorch, but idk if it's possible on ranged anyway.

[shrewd basin]

I don’t think I’ll actually make a fleshed out build for this but definitely something I’ll play around with. I WILL make my Féria sniper dream a reality

[north lynx]

You think they are going to add poisen ranged bonuses? I built a kuromi poisen crossbow build that was ok for my gf, that way she can just heal and shoot during enigma peak boss runs while not griefing boss targeting. Does ok damage, toxic crossbow over the aegis break poisen jade, but I was really excited that ranged will be viable next patch and I'm hoping there's something for poisen ranged builde.

[fierce light]

I don't see Ranged builds becoming meta (again) at all really. They even mentioned when it happened last time and it led to some funk.

At most it will make them more viable in Nirriti's Ruins since you can actually stack up a decent amount of Ranged Buffs.

It's just too far behind melee though, even when it was meta, it was only because of it doing high Aegis Damage, but that'll be useless in Yama's.

[shrewd basin]

Boss forgot to die

[twin ledge]

Backfire would still work better

[fierce light]

Yeah there's that too

[north lynx]

I mean any buff is a good one, cause I'm still gonna have her on it probably

[fierce light]

Yeah, hopefully the new mode won't require the use of ranged weapons, but we'll see

[timid stirrup]

i like the idea of ranged weapons but i suck at using them effectively

[fierce light]

It sucks on a controller for sure

[timid stirrup]

hence y i suck at using them effectively lol

[shrewd basin]

I’ve been practicing the quick shot with musket I can get about 5 shots before messing up and having to recock

[blazing sundial]

so i have 1 ghastbloom souljade. ferias recommended is a toxin version, but vipers is ice, so im pretty sure i need 2 ghastbloom souljades. but i cant find where they drop. could someone point me in the right direction?

[north lynx]

You can get any souljade from nittri ruins

Also nightscream manticore drops ghastbloom

Ruins is a better idea to farm tho

[fierce light]

The element just depends on the build you're going. Ice is generally recommended though

[blazing sundial]

i was going off the recommended build that is shown in naraka. for viper that is ice, for feria that is poison. is the recommended not right?

@north lynx i see i see, seems ill be grinding a bit to get that then

also. i think ive seen u in fairyland a few times

ur the wuchen yeah?

[north lynx]

Ghastbloom I'm pretty sure only drops in Nightscream+ ruins I'm pretty sure.

Yeah im the wuchen

[blazing sundial]

i only just started hard mode in morus and did normal ruins like 20 minutes ago

[north lynx]

You might be better off pulling it from legendary boxes

[blazing sundial]

ive been hoping to get lucky like that. thats how i got my first one

[olive bay]

anyone knwo the best way to get the blue rune keys

[fierce light]

In that tab, I'd mainly advise looking at the player favorites. The recommendeds usually aren't that far off, but player favorites gives a better idea of the meta.

[north lynx]

Ruins

You could in theory pick an easy to farm nightscream level and slam that for quicker droprates, but Ruins gives better stuff overall, more rares, more crystals.

And the same droprate chance

[hollow escarp]

is next to showdown justina?

[amber terrace]

release at june

[drifting lance]

🎉 | 『乃é・刀ﾑ・ｲんèﾶ・Ă刀』 leveled up!

[tacit nest]

@fierce light

got 4th windfall

on ice

and then spent another 100 shards so prolly close to another

[amber terrace]

dafuq

[short meadow]

@fierce light Do you have any idea about next season meta ?

[hidden creek]

damn people trust that Dark can see 2 months into the future now?

[short meadow]

mybe

[short meadow]

How people saw that justina is coming in future?

[hidden creek]

because it was shown on 2025 roadmap vid

[fierce light]

They don't tell us the upcoming Souljades until like the week before at the most from the test server.

That plus no idea what they're going to add for the Magic Weapon System or how they're going to change the Potential.

[timid stirrup]

defuse builds make a comeback....

[fierce light]

I doubt it, they weren't very popular in CN due to how easy it made the game.

[coarse night]

Hello, is anyone willing to help a noob out and finish plat 2 on Yama's, I can't finish it 😦

[signal kite]

this is straight up cancer

[fierce light]

Dang, more than double my hours and 10x my matches.

[quaint girder]

Jfc

That's so many games holy jesus

[hidden creek]

bro can foreseen all the nirriti stages at this point

[fierce light]

Must've been a lot of boss fights cause the number of monsters is low

[twin ledge]

Who is that tf bruh

Is that like sharing account or something

[twin ledge]

And btw doesn’t show all ur hours

When Yama came out it deleted all my hours and mob kills I had some reason

[fierce light]

Yeah have to select all seasons

[twin ledge]

I had 90k kills and that got deleted along with my hours when the first season of Yama was deleted no clue why but wasn’t really upset since since had my achievements

[twin ledge]

I do

Can u check mine real fast if ur online?

Can screenshot if u want and plus wanna see what I have atm anyways

[twin ledge]

Ok yea I should actually be 390 and 70 more hours

So it doesn’t even show it for other players that’s weird not to worried tho got my achievements

Wish I didn’t take as many breaks as I did cause I’m missing alot of login days

So guess I’ll wait another 445 days for red achievement

Yea but idk why it doesn’t show stats from old showdown for me

[fierce light]

Right above playtime you can change it to show All Seasons.

I don't think it tracks the time from before Seasons were a thing though

[twin ledge]

Yea it doesn’t don’t think so but still missing 90k kills

When Yama started those kills were gone completely never appeared again

And I know it hasn’t because the 301k I got now adds up for all 4 seasons of Yama

Was 4 seasons right?

[twin ledge]

Wait those hours actually might be right

But the kills isn’t

Idk about matches played never kept track of those

[sly kestrel]

anyone wanna do doom or nirriti , eu

[fierce light]

Yeah, Season 1.0, 1.5, 2.0 and 2.5.

[twin ledge]

Yea I found old image the hours are right can’t tel for matches but kills are wrong missing around 85k kills

[fierce light]

Only let's you go back to 2.0

[twin ledge]

I had 87,567 kills from old showdown

[fierce light]

Apparently I have more playtime than last season already

[twin ledge]

I have a old screenshot I found

[twin ledge]

Cause of trios Yama

Was no trios Yama I don’t care for solo Yama that much don’t go for placements so I only did stages for clear and farmed last season

Think only had 180 hours last season but almost the same amount of kills I have now this season

So could tell I farmed ruins mainly last season

And ew I have to change that avatar

Now that I look at it from my phone it don’t look to good

Might be frame making it look ugly lol

When does PvP season ends

[fierce light]

I'll have to check after this run

[fierce light]

Oh I meant myself

I guess i did start taking a break towards the end

[twin ledge]

Oh

[shrewd basin]

3 days

Monday

[twin ledge]

Oh nice I’ll just keep that avatar I can wait 3 days for the top 100 ziping avatar

Ty

[shrewd basin]

Np

[weary plaza]

except doing niri hard what else can i do to power up since i did like 10 runs on hard and i m still unable to progress the mortus isle

[north lynx]

For sense level the best way to farm is to do topaz enigma, kill the first 3 bosses, then leave the lobby. Repeat over and over

[fierce light]

Nirriti's Ruins is probably the easiest way to level up your Sense.

Once you're strong enough to clear Enigma Topaz (or the first 3 bosses), you can run that too, for more efficient Souljade drops.

[weary plaza]

idk it feels like i m making 0 progression

played all day yesterday and all day today

[fierce light]

It's not fast by any means

[weary plaza]

but still 790 power

[fierce light]

You'll get around 2-3 Sense Levels per run.

Enigma would bring that to 3-4.

[weary plaza]

could my max out friend help me in any way?

[fierce light]

As a duo, it probably would be slower to run Nirriti's Ruins, but they can probably carry you through Enigma Topaz.

[signal kite]

Top 10 unsolved mysteries we humans have ever faced

[twin ledge]

Prob is the games played is honestly unbelievable so most likely a shared account

[fierce light]

Bro is maxing his fatigue from Immovable only

[north lynx]

Does anyone know the epic and legendary base droprates for dooms/speedrun? Its the only one that doesn't show. Is it the same as nightscream?

[woven ingot]

Should be a little better because there are negative omens, that give you some luck in exchange of the negative effect.

[fierce light]

Yeah I assume the same as Nightscream, but has amplified Omen Luck due to the special ones.

[north lynx]

[twin ledge]

lol

[fierce light]

Dang another week, no last Windfall

This why I don't like maxing builds

[woven ingot]

i know the feeling. Too well.

At lest it's not your main/first build. That hurts less

[fierce light]

Still working on Ice Lotus, so it's my main build, but yeah not my first at least.

[fierce light]

Ima definitely have to go in-depth on my calculations next time before I invest in a build. Takes so long.

[fickle linden]

well, nothing else to spend shards than for builds so it's fine 😉

you are still gonna have healthy amount of shards before new season, and something to do in new season when you need to farm a new build!

gets boring if there is nothing to farm for!

[fierce light]

Just tired of being behind

April is around the corner too so there's the Curio System coming up

Rewatching the video, sounds like there might be a Curio that makes Venemous Lotus really good.

[fickle linden]

alot of things for them to balance

adding new mechanics

[fierce light]

I guess when I think about it, I have 4 core builds in the works:

• Poison Lotus Mod (w/ Arcane Thunder): 100% complete.
• Ice Lotus Mod: 98.14% complete.
• Thunder Lotus Scorch: 95.72% complete.
• Thunder Scorch: 89.86% complete.

[timid stirrup]

damn thats some crazy build progress. i only have max PLM and 90% ILM

[fierce light]

Started using sheets to calculate my progress.

Annoying how 1 Windfall would only be +1.30% closer to my goal, but it bothers me not having it

[timid stirrup]

isnt max Ice Blast dmg 420%?

370% or 375% shown 420% actual max?

[fierce light]

420% is max yeah, but I'm treating it as having a base 100% for a more accurate read.
For example, +120% Ice Blast DMG would mean you're doing 2.2x Ice Blast DMG.

Same for Attack since it'll be my Base Attack times that value displayed.

[timid stirrup]

ah. still insane

i think im only missing 2 WFs

[fierce light]

Think it's small enough a gap to where I can compete, but still bothers me not being at full power after this long.

[timid stirrup]

im only slightly competing with my chamber mates. not really every1 else

[fierce light]

Seem like a lot of the top xbox players stopped playing

[timid stirrup]

i wish that were the same for the pc players

then i'd have a good chance

[fierce light]

Yeah no doubt would need a maxed build to compete against them.

I think the bug fix might widen the gap, for trios and speedrun.

[river stratus]

with frostbound lotus or sub zero?

[fierce light]

Sub-Zero Seal

Funny enough that's the one being stubborn with the last windfall.

[dusky cosmos]

there's no difference between having two jades with 2 windfalls and the other with 2 moderation vs 1+1 for each right?

like the second windfall doesnt increase the other windfall to 75% correct?

[north lynx]

It does not. And if all stats are equal and maxed there is no difference. The only difference is if stats are not maxed or the same

[fierce light]

Well it depends. In the case of you going for 2 particular stats, like Attack and Ice Blast DMG, then each Windfall with maxed stats would be worth:

• +2% Attack
• +15% Ice Blast DMG

However, if you're trying to sprinkle in a 3rd Attribute, like Counter triggers Recovery on Thunder Scorch, it's best to go for 7 Windfalls and put Counter triggers Recovery on the Souljade with a single Windfall.

[distant rapids]

Can someone gave me a word of advice on Tower Defence (I forgot the name of the stage, but it's the one that's in the desert) nightscream stage? That is sooooo hard, too many enemies and I can't kill them quick enough

Or maybe anyone want to help trio with me instead?

[timid stirrup]

Immovable

[fierce light]

Immovable Tips

• Don't build Pendulums. They split up the mobs and can even knock them into entirely different lanes, making the clean up extremely painful.
• Nether Bells are your friend. You can shoot them with a Ranged Weapon to stun nearby enemies.
• Use a hero with some form of AoE attack. Whether it's Wuchen with his Charged Attacks into Aegis-Break, Kurumi with her Soul Slash, Viper Ning with her Pheonix Blasts or Tarka/Yueshan with their Cannon.
• Element builds are extremely effective at handling groups of enemies.

-# Tags: Immovable, Clear, Defense

[lucid ore]

Viper Ning with Cyan Fang is extremely good for new player here too.

Just spam it over and over

[fierce light]

So glad this is getting fixed.

[amber terrace]

yea

[clear badger]

Hello. I returned to game like 2 months ago and mainly focusing on showdown. Thanks to recent Suffer no Demon made my first 1120 build (Freeze one) and have some questions about substats. What is best to aim for? Attack, boss dmg or ice blast dmg?
Also got one with the rare ateibute boosting substats. How exactly that one works? It is only boosting the other stats on the jade where it is or on all six jades? And if yes, does it stack?
If anybody finds a time to answer would be really thankfull for it

[hidden creek]

for sj stats for specific builds you can always check ranking
windfall boost the sub stats on that jade alone

[clear badger]

Thanks. For ranking i should look at solos or trios? I play mostly Kurumi and her build is different for solo and trios.
And ty for Windfall clarification, so if the jade has 4% att and 28% ice blast dmg, it gives 2 and 14 extra right?

[fierce light]

Ice Build

1. Ice Blast Dmg
2. Attack
3. Increae DMG to Boss

[hidden creek]

i don't think kurumi need diff build for diff modes, since current meta is everyone is a damage dealer so the builds always prio highest output over everything else
and yes you're correct about the windfall, they also stack with each other additively so let's say you got 30% ice blast and 3x 50% windfall (150% total) on a jade then that jade now gives 75% ice blast (30 + 15 + 15 + 15)

[fierce light]

For most builds its usually that way,

1. Main Damage Source Bonus
2. Attack
3. Increase DMG to Boss

[clear badger]

In this order i guess? Cuz main dmg is first and rest scales off att mostly?

[clear badger]

I see. I saw mostly 4x moderation for 100% cd reduction on proc + 6 x windfall on build (one per each jade). For Windfall it is better to go multiple on one like you mentioned with ice blast or spread it across?

[hidden creek]

i think the best setup is always main dmg source - attack - windfall on 1 jade

so you never ditch attack

[clear badger]

And fourth option moderation till you hit 100% cd red then boss dmg rest then?

[fierce light]

Becomes really inefficient to have more than 2 Rare Attributes on a Souljade. Both the cost to get it and the loss in damage from doing so.

[hidden creek]

depends, some builds wants mod, some builds wants scorch, some wants both, some doesn't wants any but just windfall

but yeah generally speaking it's main dmg source - attack - 2 rares

for every jades

[clear badger]

So ideal total for the ice build could be 6x att, 6x ice blast, 4x moderation, 2x boss dmg and one Windfall for each? Since there is no benefit from scorch in ice build iirc?

[hidden creek]

check pinned post

i think it got all the info you needed

[clear badger]

Ok. Will look into it.

Thank you both for help
Looks like shit ton of farm ahead of me though.

[hidden creek]

goodluck

[distant rapids]

Alright, thanks! I'll try to beat it the right way

[fierce light]

Yeah the site at the bottom of the pins has all the currently used builds and stats you want for them.

[distant rapids]

I just beat it in the first try lol, nether bell really save my life. Thank you again @fierce light

[fierce light]

Np

[woven ingot]

The usual ice/poison are 4Moderation, 8 windfall, 6 increase ice/poison blast, 6 attack. You fill the missing windfall with damage to boss while working on the build.
But … you re playing Kurumi. Who doesn’t care that much about moderation at least not like damage dealing skill owners do.

[fierce light]

If her buff lasted longer or had a quicker animation, it would be decent.

[clear badger]

So for me playing Kurumi, just ditch the mod? Also my other 2 are Ziping and sometimes Matari/Wuchen as 3rd.. so Moderation wouldnt have that much value i suppose.

[hidden creek]

tbh no one play kurumi these days

[lone umbra]

zip and matari benefits from mod afaik

[woven ingot]

Wuchen is another strange case, but Ziping and Matari do wants it. And they happen to be top picks at the moment.
Unless you're really into Kurumi I'd advise you to go more toward Ziping/Matari. And if the support part is your thing, Zip does that.

[lone umbra]

^^ this too

[hidden creek]

and if you want to make a build specifically for her then you gonna need another one for other characters

which is super costly

[lone umbra]

zippin better version of kurumi

[clear badger]

I see. I play Kurumi cuz Katana is fast and efficient with dodge cancels. But tbh her 2 stage you barely use on nightscream due how low opening you have (you dont wanna risk it, because you cant go insta defuse from it like Ziping iirc).

[fierce light]

Yeah and unfortunately her Stage 2 is her highest DPS option.

[hidden creek]

in term of dps kurumi is really bad atm

[fierce light]

You can use it from a distance, but unfortunately, it drags her hitbox with it, so you mine as well be up close.

[hidden creek]

unless you want to play as a focused healer

then there's no reason to play kurumi

(and even if you want to play as a healer zip is still better)

[clear badger]

Have tried recently Ziping. Like 3 days ago. And while she dishes really good dmg with her 2nd stage, cancellable insta into defuse anytime.. She feels far more better to play than Kurumi. Still need to learn to use her properly, but insta defuse anytime, F and V connection into 2nd stage attack upon use is really good and due number of hits, each full succesfull one is ele burst..

Really forgiving, good heal, cc immune in F to cancel frostbite if you cant defuse in time.. really feels like direct Kurumi upgrade.

[hidden creek]

her F boost element accumulation while her V boost element damage

[lone umbra]

yep zip one of meta hero atm... in terms of dmg and healing as well

[clear badger]

I was previously playing moatly rankeds and mained Kurumi, so it was obvious starter choice for me when turned orientation to showdown.. But with recently added Ziping and giving her a chance.. I might switch over

[hidden creek]

i mean, technically speaking thunderscorch make all heroes ''playable''

but yeah if you want to do high damages you gotta stick to meta heroes

[woven ingot]

Definitely, go for Zip, she has the complete toolkit, very forgiving and also buff teammates unlike most heroes who are simply 3 "solos" playing together against the same boss.

[clear badger]

As im still learning, i use F mostly offensively when aegis is about to break/broken and V defensively as i still need to learn her defuse timers, because feels far different from Kurumi.

[hidden creek]

take ur time

it's worth it tho

she's strong af

[clear badger]

Yeah. And one point for her is she uses the Ice blast build as i planned for Kurumi, but just slot in mod for more F uptime and ele bursts.

[hidden creek]

i think every team that took no 1 yama every week after zip release got a zip in the line up

that's how strong she is

[woven ingot]

She's excellent, and very nice to play. Once you got some Moderation on your build you'll use her F "offensively" aka on cooldown as it will comes back as soon as you get an elemental blast, which is something like 1.5-2 spins.
With a huge advantage over most other heroes who are in trouble if their skill misses/is denied, if you didn't proc'ed a blast after her skill because you had to dodge or got hit, you can simply do the spin manually.

[clear badger]

Well as a newbie i took Zip into Yama for first ever tontry the mode (my build is far from optimal and with only one Windfall etc) and got Paragon 2.. So she is definitely strong imo

[woven ingot]

Zip is the most played right now, at least for EU.
Pretty much every team will have one. Top damage, reliable (you're not screwed because something went badly and your skill missed or something, hello Yueshan I'm looking at you) helps teammates by increasing their blast when in ult and also giving a totally absurd quantity of healing over a long time.

[clear badger]

Yeah, she procs blasts very often. As first i struggled with immovable on NS solo and made it with her 1st try while it took like 2 months of leveling over with Kurumi/Wuchen.. plus draw in during spins helps with grouped enemies. Really wanna try enigma topaz solo with her. Must be breeze with her when build will be nearly done.

Did only one enigma - ice with team and been told to pick Zip if i have her and go farm while rest went bossing.. Having ult ele boost plus beeing it global is OP af.

Overall thank you all for suggestions. Time for practice more Ziping and go farm and try slot mod to my ice build..

[fickle linden]

zippy carries me in yama's she too stronk

in peak too she nice nice

[fierce light]

If your shield is up, you don't have to defuse the freeze. Makes you immune to CC other than hitstun from bosses.

[woven ingot]

Zip is great at everything. So as you're starting it will be way more confortable to learn her rather than sticking with Kurumi and have a terrible life.
Kurumi has one of the best mob cleaning move thanks to her 2nd charged katana. But she got nothing else. And as you already saw, it's not that good for bosses because the charge time is long, long enough for nearly every boss to start an attack on you and force you to defuse.

[hidden creek]

https://tenor.com/view/long-man-sakeru-gummy-shocked-gif-17662687

[fierce light]

Nature's Touch

• +20% Attack & +30% Elemental Accumulation for self for 12s.

• Ends early if shield is broken.

• +4% Attack & +6.2% Elemental Accumulation for nearby teammates for 12s.

• Ends early if shield is broken.

• Immune to stun effects from non-Boss attacks while shield is active.

Saving Grace

• Constant Healing for entire team while active.
• Can be cast early before reaching 100% Rage.
• +100% Elemental DMG for self.
• +20% Elemental DMG for teammates.

[clear badger]

Honestly Kurumi is still really good for Nirriti due to mob clear and proven me to be one of best.. Then Zip arrived to showdown...

[quaint girder]

I really wish they'd give Kurumi some buffs to her Ulti and her F so she can compete

[fierce light]

Will have to see what they cook with the curio system

She technically has the superior buff in terms of potency, but the duration is so short and long animation with no immediate pay off like Ziping.

[clear badger]

This ⬆️ And literally it is too short and even if you use is when aegis breaks, you hurt yourself by backswing animation and the increase in dmg is like only by one and half cut.. So its better to just go full att.

[lyric roost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/793062993923538965/818153906956796004/image0-1.gif

[clear badger]

Do we have any more concrete info when? Aside its planned in April? Because curious look sick and like good way to buff older chars. And iirc it will be completely farmable from end game showdown content.

[fierce light]

Unlikely to be on the 2nd since it's not in the test server

[clear badger]

Thank you. So most likely 16. April. I doubt they will announce it for April to be released literally in May 😆

[timid stirrup]

in p12 does ominous rock transform at all from phase 2?

nevermind

[fierce light]

Yeah they have all their normal phases in Yama's

[amber terrace]

what's that patch?

i don't see any change in test

[fierce light]

The Curio System/Magic Weapon System.

The first date isn't likely since it's not in the test server

[amber terrace]

i think it wil release at june

[fierce light]

Justina is supposed to be coming in June

But they said they moved up the Curio System to April

[shrewd basin]

Anyone else want Zai to be in showdown?

[amber terrace]

ok i see that video, they said that

[fickle linden]

who doesn't?

zai numba 1

[fierce light]

I'll get to use my extreme skin

[fickle linden]

https://tenor.com/view/mihoyo-genshin-genshinimpact-npc-male-gif-22540960

[shrewd basin]

lol I’ll get to use my star skin or the extreme

[fickle linden]

https://tenor.com/view/mihoyo-genshin-genshin-impact-npc-male-hey-you-better-stop-flexing-there-gif-23456848

[fierce light]

Ah that's right she would probably have Dual Blades

[fickle linden]

i hope so

please no throwing knives for zai in showdown

pleasee 🙏

[shrewd basin]

Itd make sense right brother and sister have the same weapon

But idk what ranged weapon she would have there’s to many cannon users, I’d like to see her with musket but she’ll probably have the pistol

[fierce light]

They could give her Octa Slash Blade, but they'll have to up the damage multiplier for it to be worth using.

Probably would need a strong ability and ultimate to make up for Dual Blades as well, since it's rather mediocre.

[woven ingot]

She doesn't have an official artwork like most heroes, defining what her weapon is?

[fierce light]

She's holding onto Dual Blades here:

[woven ingot]

Would fit her I guess.
Her Dark Wings pack uses a scythe (polearm) but packs aren't always using the "official" weapon of a hero.

[clear badger]

Always had her associated with Dual Blades so leaning to that option as well.

[fickle linden]

is there anything to gain if i do last 2 challenges? since i got the 1k reward i haven't bothered with them

i mean anything else than 40 showdown xp

[woven ingot]

No Nothing.

Just the very low showdown xp.

Once you got the title you're done.

[fierce light]

Was easy to do both of those by just maxing out a Toxin Blessing

Idk about now though since Poison goes through Armor first unfortunately.

[timid stirrup]

if they get the secret anima that almost guarantees completing with less than 10%hp it should b easy. Divinity Guard

[fierce light]

Pretty rare ring though

[fickle linden]

yeah not gonna bother if there is no real reward

[fierce light]

I'm worried about next season

I mean it is only 8 points, but can hold you back from potential points

[fickle linden]

these affect next season?

[fierce light]

Same challenges

[quaint girder]

Only the original Ink Art is actually canon

Also Dark Wings is her Halloween outfit

Not at all her lore or story outfit

[quaint girder]

Bro needs to study his lore

Every character has either a splash art featuring their signature, a cinematic with their signature, or a pack that has their weapons included

Justina Gu will most likely be Longsword/Bow

[shrewd basin]

we need more musketeers

[quaint girder]

Kind of hard. Top of my head I don't think there's anyone else who would use muskets that's releasing soon. Maybe Kylin or Takeda

[amber terrace]

yea Zai use dual blades

[lucid osprey]

Now I think I'm gonna download the game these characters are amazing.

[north lynx]

They are even more amazing when you find out you can customize ever aspect of their face and hair colors like it's fallout

[amber terrace]

[north lynx]

For rare stat farming, does subsequent rerolls that increase the chances of getting a rare save for that jade, like lets say i used 20 shards then did something else again for an hour then used another 20 on the same jade, or does the chances reset on each reroll cycle?

[fierce light]

Believe it keeps track of it similar to the non-rare guarantees.

[amber terrace]

damm, red hair for tarka ji

[north lynx]

Probs the extreme hair for him

They kinda leaked it in the preview video that he'd be getting one

[north lynx]

I hope so cause I also spend early. Helps me keep motivation for the mind numbing showdown grind lol

[plush shuttle]

i need tips on upgrading souljades T_T

[fickle linden]

https://dark-zer0.github.io/Showdown best tips

[amber terrace]

lmao

[shrewd basin]

I’m definitely get that for my tarka dog

[amber terrace]

I saw this rescue last year

[shrewd basin]

I need it

[amber terrace]

same

[shrewd basin]

Posted the wrong clip