👾┃showdown

[thorn narwhal]

really? what have they changed

[fierce light]

It says it'll give you a stack of Yushan Shadow or something like that

Not that it enables being able to defuse freeze

[dusky cosmos]

does divine thunder targeted towards you count as a triggered elemental burst for purposes of Elemental Lotus?

[fierce light]

It has to be triggered on an enemy

[thorn narwhal]

weird, yushan could already stacks 2, no idea if stacking more could help

[dusky cosmos]

i assume the answer is no, but if you counter it and it hits the enemy does that count as triggering it on the enemy?

[fierce light]

For certain Element Rings in Nirriti's Ruins, yes. But for Elemental Lotus, no.

[fierce light]

New description:

Old description:

[amber terrace]

sure, cuz they add defuse to block frosbite

[fierce light]

Oh you meant rework not reword. Gotcha.

Yeah it was nerfed pretty much. Was pretty niche before, but now even more so.

[thorn narwhal]

oh yeah, sadly it will be seen used even less now, if only they could change it to trigger spring's call that would be nice

[amber terrace]

that so OP

[fierce light]

You can run Reawakening without Defuse Thaw now

Just would be slow to activate

[amber terrace]

use this to fast active

[fierce light]

Wow, you can charge up Thunderpull really fast. From 2 Soul Slashes + 1 Horizontal, to just 1 Soul Slash.

[amber terrace]

this is on test sv or live sv?

[fierce light]

Live

[amber terrace]

scorch v2?

[fierce light]

Yup

[amber terrace]

[fierce light]

A bit too fast for Ziping

[hearty rivet]

yay impassable twin miasma stuff!

[woven ingot]

I'm trying to figure if something could be worst than that speedrun. But. Nope.

[hidden creek]

LMAO

screw this week speedrun then

[woven ingot]

Not sure who thought it was a good idea to put twins and impassable on miasma twirls. With poison capped before you did half the aegis of any elite. Knowing the elites are those mermaids who spend half of their time under the ground and the other half two shotting you.

[quaint girder]

Ooo

Miasma Swirl, that's a fun one

[hidden creek]

i mean they love to see us suffer

[analog aspen]

did it three times and that has to be enough for this week

[fierce light]

What 3 times?

[woven ingot]

He's about the speedrun I think.

[analog aspen]

it's somehow really annoying that you cannot turn off the ranking shown for your heros

that's why I always do the speedrun on these 3

[hearty rivet]

You can, by hiding your heroes with low sense level

[fickle linden]

remove jades from them

[analog aspen]

but then it will show other 3 no?

or remove them on all heros

[woven ingot]

Yep, you remove jades from all those you don't want.

[hearty rivet]

it'll show the 1st 3 with highest sense level

[analog aspen]

ok, I see the work around but thats still annoying xD

[woven ingot]

Yes that's why pretty much no one bothers with that.

[fickle linden]

yeah would be nice if we could pick 3 we want to show

[woven ingot]

Would be good if they left us choose who was shown there.

[analog aspen]

i know that noone cares about these ranks but seeing rank 400 on viper ning does not give me a good feeling and I dont want to play yama's with her

[fierce light]

Yeah I getcha

Wow this daylight savings pushed the update to ending after midnight.

[thorn narwhal]

already daylight saving again..)

[hearty rivet]

I have a feeling that this week will be one of those weeks.
(Peak + gold key+ potion)

[thorn narwhal]

i wonder if this event showdown related 🤔

[fickle linden]

could be PVP one too, wasn't there jade changes in patch notes?

[woven ingot]

One change on the new longsword one, leap something.

[raw magnet]

I like showdown events than others cause I want the treasure choice gift more. 🥰

Now I wait for the Justina showdown event.

[fierce light]

Hope there's something planned since there's no more floors for 90 days.

Like that they're rebalancing things though.

[raw magnet]

When is Justina coming ? April ?

I have to catch-up with the showdown news 😅

[fickle linden]

according to road map

[fierce light]

June iirc

[woven ingot]

June yes.

[raw magnet]

June is nice.

[fickle linden]

😯

[thorn narwhal]

not a single person in enigma despite week's reset

[hidden creek]

dead game heheh

[dusky cosmos]

when doing nirritis is there a way to tell if you have collected the souljade or not once you've already chosen it? like an easy way to tell which are safe to discard?

[fickle linden]

it has book icon on right bottom side if you still need it for collection

but that's before you have chosen it

if that's what you mean

or do you mean like souljades as rewards from nirriti

or the cards in nirriti

[hidden creek]

he said ''choosen'' so prolly anima rings

[dusky cosmos]

yeah the anima rings

[hidden creek]

if you haven't collected level 1 of that ring there will be a book icon on it
if you haven't collected all levels of that ring there will be a book icon with upward arrows on it

[dusky cosmos]

yeah i know taht its just once i have them all its hard to remember which is important and which isnt

but nbd, y'all answered the question so thx

[hidden creek]

i mean you can just read the ring and see what it does

also take experience

to know if it's an useful ring or not

[dusky cosmos]

im just trying to improve the collection for the stat buffs, i dont care what they do at all for the purposes of the normal run

[fierce light]

People public queue for that?

[hidden creek]

well just collect them all

[thorn narwhal]

normal enigma, not peak, so i suppose there should be atleast 1 in these 30mins queue

[fierce light]

Well even then, it's pretty rare. Since Enigma Topaz can be solo'd.

[thorn narwhal]

for gold keys specifically, which finding one in peak is even more rare only premades

[steep patio]

Does anyone have video of paragon 10 w time

Like 3min or less

[woven ingot]

Both will be hard to find a party.

• Topaz can be solo'ed, so people aren't going to look for parties there. IF you're not strong enough to solo the whole thing, you can simply do the 3-bosses strat.
• Peak is usually with gold keys. And is clearly harder. People will try to go with premade parties not to waste their keys and time.

[woven ingot]

NotToxic posted a Tarka one a few days ago iirc.

[steep patio]

On what YouTube twitch?

[fierce light]

Ima make one when I max my Ice build

Think I'll be able to do sub-3 minutes

[steep patio]

Buddy’s about to have every build maxed

[woven ingot]

On this channel. You should be able to find it from the search menu looking for his name.

[steep patio]

Idk how

I can only find his user not his messages

[fierce light]

Well I kinda have to max a different jade for my Poison since I'm not using Arcane Thunder as much

Thunder Scorch is missing a Windfall and Attributes are at like 80%

[timid stirrup]

here it is

[quaint girder]

Gonna just use this chill time to grind out all my brown doodoo keyes

I need a lot of jade frags, still not perfect builds yet

[fierce light]

Dunno if it's even worth using regular Rune Keys right now since Nirriti's Hard drops more Crystals and Fragments on average.

Aside from the 3 bosses strat

Sounds like you'll get what you want. Wouldn't invest too hard in the wielding jades.

[amber terrace]

@fierce light i wanna ask

if defuse can block frostbite so use depth blast better or sub-zero seal?

[fierce light]

Still Sub-Zero Seal, since +20% Attack > +60% Elemental DMG. Also Depths Blast would make it so Tundra Might is active while Ice Blast is on cooldown which would make the accumulation useless.

[amber terrace]

ok

[quaint girder]

Yeah I'm not rolling any stats on wielding

I assume it's gonna either be a separate Souljade slot for weapon jades or it will be a baked in system where I fet to choose variants similar to potential

[fierce light]

Yeah sounds pretty fun

[amber terrace]

anyone has imagine for this boss?

[tacit nest]

anyone gonna be on for peaks??

gonna get to 600 fatigue

oh the servers are down

[fierce light]

Lol

Yeah thinking first 600 for peak and the rest in Nirriti

Just to hopefully stay net positive on keys

[tacit nest]

same lol

im following what you did

since you know way more ab the game ima just follow along

[fierce light]

I'm already at 480 fatigue though

[tacit nest]

lol

i wish, i worked today

now cant play till 9

[fierce light]

Used a couple of Elixirs and a few people was on

Oh wait nvm think I'm at 360 then

[tacit nest]

the servers are down

howd you play?

earlier?

[steep patio]

Servers are up

@fierce light

@tacit nest

And other ppl

Bruh there paragon 11, there giving you 9min and not 6

Goes to 15

That’s a first

More torture

[fierce light]

Ty. It'll be a bit till I can get on

[fierce light]

Yeah i got on for a bit earlier

Didn't get a chance to try Speedrun, but hear it's annoying

[fierce light]

They added an 11?

Should be a new rank name after 10 tbh

Can hardly be carried through 10

[tacit nest]

yeah @fierce light whenever u want someone for paragon or need one more just @ me

ill hop on

[hearty rivet]

Yeah 11-15 page is open 😱

[fickle linden]

good news

[hearty rivet]

biggest challenge in yama11: can't see anything from the 2 bosses huge metallic butts

[fierce light]

Auto recast pretty nice

[fickle linden]

just in time, after i built the ilm last week

but yeah, that's a nice update

now just somekinda converter for epic keys 🙏

[dusky cosmos]

does anyone in NA need to do this week doom mode ?

[olive bay]

whats the best hero to farm enigma

[fierce light]

Auto Recast pretty nice

[fierce light]

Any of the meta ones.

Ziping, Matari, Yueshan, Tessa, Feria, etc (if you have Moderation).

Wuchen & Ziping are good if you don't have Moderation.

[olive bay]

ok ty

[fierce light]

So looks like the buff to Poison was 7% just like 7% for Thunder before.

[fickle linden]

hmmhp, paragon15 opens april 10th

showdown seasons ends june 4th

wonder if they will add levels upto 20

[olive bay]

is it possible that the later paragon levels include repeated bosses from earlier ones

like i think paragon 4 was matron

if she appears again then its over for me

[fierce light]

Yeah 11 has Aureate so I've heard

[twin ledge]

U get 9 minutes now so u should be good

[twin ledge]

No

They give us a few weeks for us to get are times for last stage

[zealous patrol]

its the gold boss

2 bosses i think

one spawns after the other one reaches 1/3

i need new jades ;-;

for the lotus scorch set

[south tusk]

it’s show consumed material too … nice update

[bold storm]

Can someone explain to me y manticore has like 1bil hp trying to farm it for 1 item but struggling

So bored of this

[plain spire]

what item are you farming?

[bold storm]

Ghastbloom

It took me like 14 mins to kill it on hard and nighscram got me fighting sleep

[plain spire]

did you already clear maticore nightscream in holoroth ? you can buy gold jade in showdown store if you do and pick ghastbloom

[bold storm]

Oh I didn't know about that and no I have not beat it on nightscream

Only clearly it on hard

[plain spire]

what server are you playing?

[bold storm]

Idk

[plain spire]

SEA,SA,NA,EU etc..

[bold storm]

Problemly na

I need check

Yea im going to hope na become I can't really check 😭

[plain spire]

I could help you clear the nightscream buy im in SEA

[bold storm]

I'm just gonna sit in a qu for like 40 mins and hope i find a game

I don't know what I'm on but I'm sure it not sea

If I join on sea does my stuff transfer servers I happyly deal with 142 ping to clear this boss

Sorry my bad 242 lol

[plain spire]

you can come in sea i'll help you clear nightscream

[bold storm]

Y do I have to agreed to another user agreement

[plain spire]

thats normal when you jump server

[bold storm]

What the difference between these things anyway never understood the point of these user agreements but with each 1 I see it makes me not wanna play a game

[plain spire]

pvp achievements and chamber i guess

[bold storm]

I really don't feel like accepting this agreement

[plain spire]

that;s just ingame agreement lol

[bold storm]

Yea but i don't even understand the point of these things

My head hurts and I'm bored of this

I'm gonna go to bed thank you for at least trying to help lol

[obtuse shell]

hey any1 wanna help help me w paragon 1 ?

[zealous patrol]

y is paragon 11 so easy'

[lyric roost]

yes easy

[woven ingot]

Paragon 11 is the same Mountain ghost then aureate and 2 elites with each that we already had?

[hearty rivet]

Iron Teifeng and Aureate. No adds, only cold patches that shoot you up to the ceiling if you step or get yeeted on one.

[woven ingot]

No sure if that’s fun or not …

I hope they won’t give us double bosses on every round.

[quaint girder]

Are there any quests for Paragon 11m

Like in the Season Quest Menu

I'll probably only clear Paragon 5 if that's the last quest I need to do

[short meadow]

I thought peragon 10 is max

[amber terrace]

[buoyant notch]

Guys idk if I made my build wrong but on kurumi it feels like poison build does more damage than ice build

am I crazy for saying that

More so considering moderation doesn’t feel like it does much on kurumi either

[quaint girder]

Mod on Kurumi is primarily for F uptime on your carry

[buoyant notch]

I know but for ice build usually you want a f skill that gives increased attributes accumulation or damage or something.. so mod is useful in those cases but for kurumi?

[fierce light]

The next 3 have the same omen that spawns the next enemies early. But honestly it feels easier than 9 & 10.

[fierce light]

Kurumi doesn't benefit as much from being able to use her ability more often solo. However, with Poison, her ability gets rid of corruption which can be nerfing yourself due to not using Infectious Touch.

It'll take 2 Soul Slashes to proc Elemental Burst on both Ice and Poison so that's identical.

[buoyant notch]

Sheit

so ice is still better

I just remove moderation for something else

like windfall

[fierce light]

Yeah for heroes with weak abilities, 12 Windfall is better

[buoyant notch]

Thank you for a moment of your time

and wisdom

Time to go grind new jades

[fierce light]

This would be how max Ice compares to max Poison on Kurumi:

Ice

• Souljades: Successive Ice Blast, Frozen Blast, Elemental Lotus, Ghastbloom, Sub-Zero Seal, & Tundra Might
• Attributes: x4 Moderation, x8 Windfall, x6 Attack, x6 Ice Blast DMG
  Poison
• Souljades: Noxious Blast, Pestilent Pool, Infectious Touch, Toxified Lotus, Ghastbloom, & Miasma Drive
• Attributes: x4 Moderation, x6 Windfall, x6 Attack, x6 Poison Blast DMG, x2 Increase DMG to Boss

Rotation:

Soul Slash (until Elemental Burst)
Blink Strike + Aegis-Break (while Elemental Burst is on cooldown)

[fierce light]

Ignore the part that says Ziping Ying, that's supposed to be "Base Value of Maxed Attribute"

[zealous patrol]

🙂

;-;

i wanted wind fall

[zealous patrol]

gonna replace that scorching with a maxed stat

[fickle linden]

you have low stats on those jades anyway, just reroll bad rares into max values

[zealous patrol]

ik

what im gonna do

the only issue being

[fickle linden]

time to hit peak

[zealous patrol]

finished 600 alr

with tripple gold keys everyrun

got friends : P

[fierce light]

You ran out of Crystals? 😯

[lyric roost]

good

[fierce light]

That's a lot of healing, don't think you'll need that much tbh

Divine Thunder no longer does damage and you don't have Incineration, so you have nothing to drain your health.

[hearty rivet]

!!! I didn't understand this part in the patch notes. o_O

[astral widget]

what mean tripple gold keys?

[fickle linden]

every person in party uses gold key

3 person party using golden keys is +9000 luck

[fierce light]

Yeah I did all Peak for first 600 fatigue. Not one catch up point.

So all my drops were above average.

[astral widget]

wow

is it work like this XD?

i didnt know

who want play? haha

[woven ingot]

Now when you proc divine thunder (tscorch/thunder build and i guess Nirriti) the lightning doesn’t damage you anymore.
It will stagger you if you don’t have the right jade, but won’t damage you.

[hearty rivet]

Oh wow, that sounds nice! But even if it's filled by boss shenanigans?

[hidden creek]

i think yes

[woven ingot]

I ll see vs yama this evening. Not sure when it comes from the boss. I think I saw something on the patch notes about it, but I don’t see how the game could differentiate a thunder triggered by your actions from one triggered by the boss.
In the patch notes there was something about manticore, matron and oreate and their accumulation. I forgot if it was about less accumulation or something else.

[quaint girder]

In the patch notes it's just accumulation for Thunder and Poison was decreased.

[hearty rivet]

Yeah it was about lowering the accumulation from their moves.

[quaint girder]

But you should still test because translation can be arse

[woven ingot]

Yes. And ice. As matron is there.

[quaint girder]

Also, I feel like it's a slight nerf to Thunderbuilds that want the accumulation lmao

[woven ingot]

Aureate not thundering you with one-two hits sounds good.
Same for Matron.

[hearty rivet]

I dunno, accumulating from Aureate or Manticore means you got slapped with his mace/hammer or spitted on and ouchie.

[woven ingot]

It’s partially a nerf to thunder builds who used the bosses against them i d bet yes.

[woven ingot]

Not when you re a tscorch/thunder. as you got the jade to not be staggered.

Those want to get the free thunder accumulation.

[hearty rivet]

I mean... getting hit hurts aside from thunder stuff

[woven ingot]

I remember NotToxic (I think) using the laser barrier on yama with aureate to charge his thunder meter

[hearty rivet]

oh no no I meant the boss' direct hits&stuff. Not getting turned crispy by the wires will be extra nice.

[hidden creek]

they're all the same

same effect of building your thundershock bar

there's only 1 thundershock bar, doesn't matters you increase it by your own or get hit by bosses's attack or electric wires

[hearty rivet]

I knooow... but talking (nonsense) about different thing 😭

[fierce light]

Yeah, they buffed that electric wire omen by making it decrease your attack by quite a bit. Wouldn't recommend doing it with that one.

[hidden creek]

pretty sure the divine thunder caused by any of them doesn't do any damages now

only stagger

[quaint girder]

sedge

I thought I was a genius

[hidden creek]

well it was a legit tactic

that's why they nerfed it lol

[hearty rivet]

JustNaes said that it will be a nerf to thunder builds that if you get hit by a boss you accumulate less, if I did not misunderstand what they meant. I just reflected to that by saying that it's not ideal to accumulate by getting hit by boss because it hurts aside from accumulation and thunder stuff.

[hidden creek]

yeah what he said doesn't make any sense

cuz you never want to get hit by the boss for the purpose of charging your thundershock bar anyway

like on low stages you 1 shot the bosses, high stages they 1 shot you so

there's no reason to

[quaint girder]

keyword "was"

[fierce light]

If you have Untouchable Talent, you'll lose Attack for being hit.

[quaint girder]

basically before the attack damage debuff and if you weren't using untouchable talent

[hidden creek]

what

i'm lost

[fierce light]

I don't think that was ever used cause Aureate has some high knockback

[hidden creek]

yes, so this is nonsense

[hearty rivet]

tschorch doesn't use untouchable, I think he meant that. But that entry in the patch note was about bosses not the wire omen. So that omen may still be doing the same accumulation if someone wants to play with the basic version.

[fierce light]

There's still the issue of the knockback, so you wouldn't be able to get both Scorching's off

[hidden creek]

ah fk it i'm building this

[fierce light]

It looks good

[hidden creek]

with recent changes it's such a misopportunity for not trying this one

wonder if i could even do a 444 on this tho

[fierce light]

Feels like overkill

But it would be easier

[hidden creek]

yeah same thought

[chrome seal]

Anyone could help w yamas abyss 3 and further on eu?

[fierce light]

Would be less viable for heroes with weak abilities though, which I think this build would excel at

[hidden creek]

true

[lusty prism]

Anyone else sense level is bugged?

Because mines is a 1950

[woven ingot]

That s tscorch 2.0?

[hidden creek]

yea

[hidden creek]

that's not sense level

[lusty prism]

Care to explain then?

[hidden creek]

it's achievement points

[lusty prism]

Oh ok I didn’t know, never seen it before when playing niritti ruins thanks

[hidden creek]

pretty sure you just didn't noticed it

it was always there

for contents that sense level doesn't matters (nirriti) your sense level won't shows on loading screen

[analog aspen]

On what heros and under ehich circumstances do you guys think thunder lotus is better than poison lotus? On heros with weak abilities and vs bosses?

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Mysto leveled up!

[fierce light]

Hard to say. If they have a hard-hitting Skill though, Poison would likely be better.

[glacial fable]

Omfg they added new paragon levels 💀

[drifting lance]

🎉 | powerholzi leveled up!
ℹ | Level up messages can be disabled for the guild with owo level disabletext

[sly kestrel]

anyone wanna do doom's run

eu server

[tacit nest]

Anyone wanna run peak?

[analog aspen]

who came up with the idea of double bosses in yama's abyss

its so annoying

or just skill issue

[glacial fable]

Frfr its so fucking hard

[analog aspen]

For the first minute I thought it's going to be freebie and suddenly another boss slaps my ass from behind

[woven ingot]

Glad that at least someone feels like me. Everyone was saying "Yama 11 is sooo easy and fun". Logged in it happy and relaxed. Nearly one hour after I'm finally done with it.
Just because double bosses. They are both permanently active, hitting you one after the other and they are both so big that most of the time you have no idea what the second is doing. With that permanent aggression I'm supposed to perma defuse until reaching the 9 min timer? ^^'
Yama 10 with Zip, 3 tries. With Yueshan 2 tries. Yama 11 with Zip one hour. Yeah, so easy right ^^' Double boss is always such a great game experience for me.

[river stratus]

imagine if they put looming shadow+ earlier enemies

[woven ingot]

I know the easy answer is take Yueshan and gank them when they are both in the arena, but wanted to do it "the normal way".

[woven ingot]

I'm sure we gonna have a Matron + Bough or Korvine at a moment. Get ready for some rage quitting 😂
Your triple boss idea is ... well pretty sure they will do it at a moment or another.

[fierce light]

Pretty much if you have the damage to solo Paragon 10, you should be able to clear Paragon 11.

But yeah while there's 2 bosses it may be tough for a bit

[woven ingot]

Yeah that's the point. Rought for a bit ^^'

Rest of the fight was nice. 4 bosses have interesting and challenging moves. But the moment you have two together it's a terrible experience for me.

[round glacier]

Stuck at par 3 for ages lol

[hearty rivet]

FWIW if they do it we can blame you 🙃

[fierce light]

The difficulty to solo would become a lot higher than trios at that point.

[analog aspen]

solo is already a lot harder then trios I think

as soon as there is more than one boss I prefer trio

the only downside are counter timers because of weird ping delays

[fierce light]

Yeah Trios technically is the easiest just from enemies having 83% Health relative to each player (250% of Health from Solos total).

Can split them up, but the faster times will want them together which can be harder on trios.

[analog aspen]

is chapter 5 autumn plains turmoil the only/best option to farm defuse solidification?

I couln't find anotherone

except hard

[hidden creek]

can just spam nirriti

[analog aspen]

I'm a bit unlucky ig it never seems to drop there

overall rewards should be the same anyways

when comparing nirriti and morus isle nightscream

[hidden creek]

then just spam autumn plains

can just run hard if you only need defuse solidification

[fierce light]

Nirriti's Ruins has a much larger drop pool, so less likely to get it.

[timid stirrup]

epic choice/random souljade

[fierce light]

First one this season

[timid stirrup]

nice congrats

[analog aspen]

probably the worst possible roll xD

[fierce light]

20% is the lowest, so yup

[fickle linden]

is it even possible to get catch up points from peak?

i don't think i had particulary good rewards, got 0 catchup points with 600 fatigue

[fierce light]

With gold keys it's pretty rare

But can get it commonly with purple keys

[fickle linden]

ah that explains

[hearty rivet]

this new freezing animation really needs some getting used to x.x

[woven ingot]

I found the solution to that!
Doing ... like before, ignore the whole thing and happens what happens 😂
But, yes, it's a bit weird. The blue crystal appears, 1 sec after there is a ray of light between the crystal and you, and that's the moment you want to defuse.

[hearty rivet]

haha, put your fate into the hands of your fellow Zip 😅

[woven ingot]

That can work too!

Plus being Yueshan for Peak, I'll rarely be frozen, except before the first boss.

After more than 3 months, and 4 fails on that one, game decided I suffered enough for now and gave me that last WF.
... 3 months ...
Now just left to max all the little 3.9 and 29.6 stats.

[fickle linden]

i just defused when the crystal was near full and it worked everytime (thanks to trio delay??)

[hearty rivet]

Woooooo!!!

[woven ingot]

Oh, I didn't noticed the crystal changed state and was getting full.

[fickle linden]

it has a bar, it fills slowly

"slowly"

or rather, the crystal fills up

[woven ingot]

It will need some training to get used to I guess. Plus it may not be easy to see during a boss fight.

[fickle linden]

easier to train when mobbing than bossing i'd guess 😅

[woven ingot]

I'd think so yes ^^

[amber terrace]

yea, crystal fly on head character so hard to see during atk or boss fight

[fierce light]

It is a rather small crystal

But still a better indicator than before, as you'd have to watch your bar pretty hard

[amber terrace]

yea, wishing it larger crystal or something easy to notice

[zealous patrol]

the crystal is wierd

defuse when u see it flash bright

also i feel like sometimes it takes really long to drop and sometimes its very fast

[amber terrace]

damm, finally

[shrewd basin]

Anyone want to play anything NA server?

[fierce light]

@tacit nest

[tacit nest]

kms bru

[fierce light]

Don't forget to buy them from the chamber store

[tacit nest]

i alr did lol

[ancient sparrow]

so for enigma i just leave after killing 3 bosses right, leave to lobby?

[ancient sparrow]

also for the doom weekly can i just do like 3 miasma to fill up 9 stars

or do i have to do dharma mnius ect

[timid stirrup]

need to do 3 different stages

[woven ingot]

You have to do 3 doom amongst the 4 offered.
So you can drop one you don’t like but that’s all.

[plain spire]

Getting lazy spending all fatigue now Wish they put a mode where we spend 100 fatigue etc. or remove the mob stage on nitiri and just directly face boss. 😅

[analog aspen]

Thats why I usually do morus isle nightscream missions where I can just fight bosses instead of doing nirriti

[warped falcon]

Its not so bad when you’re listening to music or an interesting podcast 🤷‍♂️

[amber terrace]

wishing they add button, just 1 click to spend all fatigue to jade and crystal

[fierce light]

Yeah they can raise the fatigue cost of Suffer No Demon, but not the regular farms smh

Enigma Peak shouldn't be the same amount as Enigma Topaz for one.

[lyric roost]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-team-wolf-wolfteam1-gif-25220418

[fierce light]

Rip, guess my luck with Ice build is over

[woven ingot]

Finally joining the scorching club?

[hearty rivet]

Dunno, getting at least 15 scorches before a good rare seems to be the trend with that build 😔

[fierce light]

I didn't even grab it cause maxing the DMG to Boss would waste more materials and lower my DPS for the rest of this week.

[amber terrace]

haha same

i spend 3 red stone + 20 yellow stone but get all scorching

[timid stirrup]

thats what im afraid of. i already got 1 scorching on mine and im still missing my 1 moderation

[tacit nest]

@fierce light

got 4 mods now 2 wind on ice

STILL NO SUCCESSIVE

[amber terrace]

[fierce light]

Damn

[fierce light]

They should really make chapter missions a bit better at dropping their special drops. So inefficient to run them

[analog aspen]

so true

yesterday I tried to farm defuse solidification and only got 1 drop for about 500 fatigue on 100% loot

[tacit nest]

im at damn near 1000 fatigue used on ns mushan still no successive

almost maxed and still none

ive mastered the icy bitches movement down to a spectacle

[turbid agate]

u still havnt gotten one?

[hidden creek]

that's why you buy bp for sj of choice gift

[fierce light]

I still have like 9 left of each

[analog aspen]

Would you guys recommend thunder scorch or thunder lotus as a thunder build? I'm getting kinda bored of my poison build

And rather than increasing attack from 29 to 30 I'd build a new set

I'm unsure if all lotus builds require strong abilities

I'd like to have a build that also works for tianhai and kurumi

[tacit nest]

nope

[tacit nest]

used them for other ns legendary ice jades

[drifting lance]

🎉 | ItzFantome leveled up!

[turbid agate]

damn bro, i got rid of like 10 the other day lol

[tacit nest]

keep in mind i still only started very end of last season

i dont got many choice jades lol

[plain spire]

peak has reward sj of choice defeating 7-8 boss

[tacit nest]

used em

lol

maxed out poison build only to find out ice is better

so now building ice

[plain spire]

Drop chance for legend sj in any +15 fatigue stage sucks, experience farming for noxious blast before for 1 week and didn't get anything at all was force to buy the showdown pass just to get the sj of choice. 💀

[tacit nest]

i think fastest one yet sick of ts

[fierce light]

I'd say try out a Thunder Lotus Scorch build

Regular Thunder Lotus mainly good on Ziping and Tarka right now

[analog aspen]

Well, the honestly already work pretty well with poison

I feel like there are just heroes that are a lot worse than others and there is nothing to do about it

[fierce light]

High Weapon DPS, alongside high Skill DPS usually goes hand-in-hand with being better at the builds

Since higher damage, means you can proc the elements faster

[bold storm]

Is anyone doing manticore hunt on night scream

[drifting lance]

🎉 | ༺ 𝙁oxRose ༻ leveled up!
| Extra rewards were added for missing levels

[turbid agate]

i can help if u still need it

[twin ledge]

U still need?

[bold storm]

I need help

Sorry was doing a hard run accident got rid of a item

[bold storm]

Help plz

[bold storm]

Help plz

How do I added you 2?

[turbid agate]

My bad, i had to get off. But I can help later if you still need it. Just let me know

[twin ledge]

Let me finish this what’s ur id i can send

[bold storm]

Accident sold a item and still mad at myself about it and ok

[bold storm]

229000040169

[twin ledge]

Ok match almost done about to send

Ok I sent

[drifting lance]

🎉 | 雷電英 leveled up!

[twin ledge]

Wait now I did

I didn’t notice I was full

[bold storm]

I accept it

[twin ledge]

Invite me

[bold storm]

My bad And thank you for joining

[twin ledge]

It’s fine

[bold storm]

Hope i can do something at least

Not even sure who to play for theses

[shrewd basin]

When I doubt Tarka it out

[bold storm]

I hate to ask can you help with the yama abbyst 3 I forgotten what it actually call

Been trying to make a build for it and thank you for helping me

[twin ledge]

I don’t mind

Bored with nothing to do atm

[bold storm]

Understandable

[shrewd basin]

Beat manticore with musket

[bold storm]

Just been siting in qu for like 2 hours trying to find 1 game

[twin ledge]

I’m not that bored now

[shrewd basin]

lol

[bold storm]

That good glad you not bored

[twin ledge]

Might play bad but we can keep continuing till we can’t

[bold storm]

I'm ok with that

[twin ledge]

Because I’ve really laggy last 2 weeks

[bold storm]

Same and my hero lv is lower

[tacit nest]

same lmao

i usually dont

its been way better today

[bold storm]

My sense is so low

[bold storm]

Do you wanna change character?

So does air kill you lol

Thank you for just playing at this point lol

[fierce light]

Need help still?

[bold storm]

No but thank you very much for asking

[twin ledge]

Da m

Zero I think we could get u in a few more stages

[bold storm]

Thank you for at least runing so many you really didn't have to do all thoese runs

[shrewd basin]

Anyone want to run something?

[bold storm]

@twin ledge my sense is to low i need to run the other mode

[twin ledge]

and didnt see this but was making a joke because

my game was some reason applying burn to myself when i didnt apply draco or burn to boss for like 7 seconds

so my incineration was killing me somehow

[bold storm]

@twin ledge oh ok thanks you for helping me

[timid stirrup]

not sure if this was mentioned but auto recasting a jade will go past pity and u will not get to use pity after u hit auto recast target

[tacit nest]

just pause it before hand

right before

[timid stirrup]

yea i know but i dont really need pity rn so i wanted to test it

now i have 4 mods 5wf 1scorch on my ice build.

[turbid agate]

wait i thought u couldnt get a 2nd rare attribute from recasting on the same jade? or am i confused

[tacit nest]

started build last week

got 2 wind and 4 mods

[tacit nest]

he used flux or flux shards

you can see from background

[turbid agate]

oh i thought from recasting, my bad lol

dude, i wish i would have known that a month plus ago when i wasted 4 flux before they had a rare. smh

[timid stirrup]

that makes me very jealous but im happy 4 u

[tacit nest]

thank u vro

although im happy for u cuz you got successive

[timid stirrup]

r u using frozenbound lotus or sub-zero seal?

[tacit nest]

sub

zero

its better

[timid stirrup]

my chamber mate is dead set on frostbound lotus being better but im sticking with sub0 also

[tacit nest]

yeah nah

i think dark even said

[tacit nest]

ay i hate asking this but does someone in here have a luck build

that i could borrow for a couple rounds in yushan ns

😭

im mentally dying

[timid stirrup]

um.. my blessed has max luck and luckybreak has 475/500 luck. thats not much 1975 plus whatever lucky break adds from %

comes out to 2370

[tacit nest]

would u want to mentally die for a couple rounds?

[timid stirrup]

im gonna mentally die in yamas so might as well help u

[tacit nest]

u got another that might wanna join or no?

[olive bay]

tf

[timid stirrup]

what is that blue dot?

[tacit nest]

gotta be bugged

aint no way

@fierce light i got a question

[tacit nest]

do other peoples luck jades increase mine in morus isle

[timid stirrup]

and its decent

[tacit nest]

bro.......

WHY ME

[fierce light]

Yeah when you tick that checkmark, it'll ignore pity.

[fierce light]

Hasn't been confirmed

[timid stirrup]

what checkmark? auto guarantee?

[olive bay]

uh wdym

[timid stirrup]

nevermind i think its the background

[tacit nest]

its one of the background stars

[olive bay]

oh

yeah

[fierce light]

Yeah, that makes it skip the guarantee (pity).

[amber terrace]

i think it work on yourself

[tacit nest]

only?

fuck

[turbid agate]

i dont have a luck build but i can help if yall need it

[amber terrace]

sure

[tacit nest]

i mean like does their jade benifit mine

luck

it doesnt say anything after match

[amber terrace]

all stats work only on yourself

other player doesn't work for u too

[fierce light]

Likely a convenient rumor that spread so people could get away with running luck builds

[tacit nest]

@timid stirrup

bro

From the pity

😭😭😭😭

Very last of fatigue

[timid stirrup]

from catch up pts lol

i had a feeling that would happen but didnt wanna say iot

was it decent at least?

[tacit nest]

nah

but im grateful

[radiant cedar]

idk how I can improve this, or share this for several to people use it 😓

there's a way add premissions allows edit and block cells others but idk how to do it in google sheet

[woven ingot]

You wait for Dark to wake up. Spreadsheets are his natural living place.

[radiant cedar]

his habitat? xD

well, if there's one avaible online, I couln't bother with this then x-x'

[woven ingot]

That s the word i wanted to use. But not sure it translates that way in English ^^

[radiant cedar]

oh I think I manage to do it

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10OamWJC8MYLwOXWWLNwkGIt3g9qmdZEZuGz4g2cDf8M/edit?gid=0#gid=0

still, not perfect, cuz if several people are using, might ruin a bit 🤔

[ancient sparrow]

do i get yama abyss boxes

like end o fseason?

or is it bugged and i didnt get

[plain spire]

end season

[fickle linden]

still no zippy showdown cultivations

[round glacier]

Welp paragon 3 was done first try using ice zippy lol

[timid stirrup]

theres 1 in dark's website along with a plethora of other spreadsheets

[lyric trench]

damn

[radiant cedar]

oh

okey ^^

[quaint girder]

Collab characters currently don't have any. It looks like this is intended unless it changes in the future

[fickle linden]

aahh, didn't think of that but now that you mention

[warped falcon]

Who the hell thought putting music to Yamas abyss was a good idea? 😡

Is it possible to turn it off or is this compulsory

[amber terrace]

i turn off music so don't heart anything

[warped falcon]

Yea same I have back ground music on 0 for everything

But the music is still there

[fickle linden]

these will not have future jades in them but should i save them for new season anyway if some older jades become new meta jades for new build?

[hidden creek]

huh

just save sj of choice gift

this random sj gift just open

[warped falcon]

Showdown background music is 0 but it’s loud and clear for me x.x

[hidden creek]

https://youtu.be/B--Fiu2XNHc

tscorch v2 in action

[hidden creek]

that's weird lol, i got all of it at 0 and i hear no music

[warped falcon]

Must be a console bug then 😦

[fierce light]

Looks pretty viable

[hidden creek]

he said with bosses that throw alot of blues, copperward tscorch is still better than this lotus tscorch tho

but with bosses that doesn't throw lots of blues this lotus tsorch is nice

[fierce light]

Yeah definitely

[hidden creek]

lower hydroflare dmg per active but trigger more frequently

[fierce light]

If you can't make use of the double speed trigger rate it'll lose out

[hidden creek]

also looking at this trigger rate, mods on this defo gonna be overkill lmao

[hearty rivet]

the fact that this is not a glasscannon build is already a nice thing (especially if you're on the clumsier side like me 😅 )

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Ardiehime leveled up!

[hidden creek]

ye

but for character with good F ilm is still the best

[fickle linden]

good build for trio since 3x ilm is bugged?

[hidden creek]

it bugged?

[fickle linden]

someone said that 3rd persons blooms will just disappear

so having one player with poison or something else is better

[fierce light]

Hopefully they fix that bug soon

[hidden creek]

imagine it's not a bug

[fierce light]

Idek how to record it, but they should be reporting it on the CN side

[radiant cedar]

im bit lost, what bug? o-o

[hidden creek]

i mean if they make it that way to force people running diff builds instead of 3x ilm trio everywhere lol

[fierce light]

They should state such a thing if so

[amber terrace]

anyone watch video about

ranged weapon can parry?

Feria Shen parry with musket

[woven ingot]

That would be a great change. Being face slapped every time you equip your ranged doesn't feel great.
plus if you shoot, there is an animation for recharging that won't let you swap back to your main weapon. You think you're good you swiched back, and get hit.

[stoic rapids]

Any one want play enigma peak 9k ?.?

We have 2

[hidden creek]

if this is real they're probably making some changes to ranged so ranged builds becomes viable

they cookin

[amber terrace]

i think they will buff for ranged weapon and potential for that build

[fierce light]

Hmm

[fickle linden]

looks sick 🤩

[fierce light]

Wasn't a fan of the ranged weapon meta, but I wouldn't mind them being more useful

That would be cool in Nirriti's Ruins

[amber terrace]

imagine they buff 900% atk speed of ranged weapon, i will use repeating bow or swarm

as glating gun

[fierce light]

You'd be reloading longer than you shoot haha

[amber terrace]

maybe they buff ammount bullet

[hidden creek]

meh there won't be a ''ranged weapons meta''
but i can imagine they're making like a few slots of sj that you can only euquips ranged sjs on it

[fickle linden]

crossbow isn't totally terrible in nirriti

[hidden creek]

so you actually have a reason to use your ranged

[fickle linden]

but something like musket is unplayable

[woven ingot]

At least those ranged SJ would have a use. Other than just being fragments.

[fierce light]

They did mention adding an item that'll allow us to change weapon skills

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1266668634609025076/1349525988282859721/Screen_Recording_20250312_193310_Discord.mp4?ex=67d6b744&is=67d565c4&hm=bbe1e130aa3d6f60badc4a513fe24b51fc114ff9c1d94d6c73c7af9c4c46cb2c&

[hidden creek]

after so many times they said something that sounds interesting but ended up being totally useless or literally dumb ah

i've lose all my hopes

[amber terrace]

18 march will has news

[tacit nest]

so does this tscorch v2 have ghastbloom on it?

[hidden creek]

no

[tacit nest]

how much damage do the lotuses really do without bloom?

[hidden creek]

pretty much zero on this build

the spinning lotuses sole purpose is to build up your thunder bar

[tacit nest]

ohhhhhhh

that makes sense

alot actually

more accumalation

[amber terrace]

scorching v2 no use lotus bloom, cuz dmg from burn

[fierce light]

Lotus Impact does about the same amount of damage as your first uncharged attack per tick. Around 1/6th of a charged attack.

[dusky cosmos]

anyone need doom this week in NA?

[amber terrace]

no

[fierce light]

I don't need it, but I can help right quick.

[dusky cosmos]

thanks if you got time

i still need the first clear for the main quest and haven't been able to solo

[fierce light]

What's your IGN (or ID)?

[dusky cosmos]

7977600150164

[tacit nest]

Since yueshans ult is powerful

Is Tianhais????

His kind of looks the same

[woven ingot]

Tianhai happens to be very strong in Ult form. Problem is that the rest isn't. No offensive skill, or something like Wiping to compensate.

[tacit nest]

What do you mean?

[fierce light]

Yeah his Ultimate is strong, it's just he lacks a way to charge it quickly like Yueshan. His Skill does provide a stronger Counterstrike, if you manage to parry with it, but other than that it's purely defensive.

[woven ingot]

He also have an advantage over Yueshan, Tianhai's Ult ignores Manti's Iron Skin. And that's a true pleasure to hit it during Irong Skin like it was nothing.

[tranquil beacon]

Hi, haven't been playing this season that much, Is standard hydroflare build still viable for later paragon stages (8-10)? Don't see in the in 2.5 builds pinned. Also seems like 12 scorcing is no longer the strongest and switched to 4 scorching and the rest to wf?

[fierce light]

• 4 maxed [Scorching]'s puts you at +12 [Scorching]. It hard caps at +12, so no need to go above that.
• I'm not sure if Standard Hydroflare will do enough for those higher stages, and if they do it'll be on the slower side.

[tranquil beacon]

Oh I misunderstood that for +4 instead of x4
Thank you!

[analog aspen]

could anyone please explain why you go attack and health on this build as opposed to attack and thunder dmg?

[fierce light]

Pretty much if you see Thunderpull and Thunder Counter in a build that doesn't have Thunder-Wielding, then you can ignore the element. Draco Stride gives away that it is a Hydroflare based build as it is absolutely useless without it (Stormstride hits more than twice as hard as Draco Stride).

[tacit nest]

@fierce light

I wonder if tianhai and yueshan in yamas would do good?

[fierce light]

Hardly

[tacit nest]

You think?

[fierce light]

In the time Tianhai gets an Ultimate, Yueshan is working towards his 2nd one, if not already in it.

[tacit nest]

Maybe on a jade with damage to boss could change it for rage?

Assuming one has all others at rares and attack

[analog aspen]

does this make the health value even more valuable than attack as you are trading max health?

[fierce light]

Well it would be a trade off for damage either way. His Ultimate is good, but since his base form is rather clunky and lacks any really hard hits, he won't be top tier for the time being.

[fierce light]

It's basically an alternate version of the Thunder Scorch build. It trades off the Attack from Incineration and Health from Copper Ward for significantly faster charge rate from Mighty Lotus Counter and Thunderous Lotus.

The attributes you go for won't be any different.

[analog aspen]

I see, if you swap draco stride for ghastbloom however it becomes the thunder lotus build right? And there you would want to go for the thunder dmg on the jades and thunder-wielding

[tacit nest]

Unfortunate

Two tanks seems like a pretty cool combo

[hidden creek]

well, yeah

those 2 build functions differently

on draco build your main dmg source is hydroflare, which comes from scorching, which comes from countering

[amber terrace]

if Tianhai has fast charger as Yueshan so it will OP

[hidden creek]

so you prio HP because of the blazing flame potential (lose all hp% increase but convert them into burn dmg)

[tacit nest]

Or even near same time

[hidden creek]

and you don't want thunder wielding because 1: it lower the accumulation rate of your thundershock bar and 2: you don't deal damages with your divine thunder counter

[fickle linden]

make tianhai F to charge from succesfull counter or something

[analog aspen]

[hidden creek]

but on the thunder lotus build your main dmg source is divine thunder counter so ofc you want thunder wielding

[fierce light]

They could make it so Tianhai gains Rage from deflecting/blocking attacks with his Skill.

[hidden creek]

and divine thunder damage

[tacit nest]

Seems like a good idea

[analog aspen]

[tacit nest]

I think akos hu would do good in showdown

[dusky cosmos]

i feel dumb even typing this, but what are you supposed to do if the boss attacks you twice in a row quickly? i can't defuse twice fast enough seemingly many times

[tacit nest]

Either dodge first attack then defuse second or opposite

Or choose characters that have a chain defuse

[hidden creek]

without fully knowing their kit there's absolutely no way to tell if a character is good or not in showdown

[fickle linden]

we need zai not to have flying knives as weapon in showdown 🙏

[tacit nest]

Your right I forgot they can change their skills and ults

Before showdown

[hidden creek]

when we heard ziping is coming to showdown, everyone was assuming she's the 2nd healer beside kurumi

no one expected her to be the top damage dealer lmao

but she ended up being one

[fickle linden]

top tier damage top tier heal

[tacit nest]

Yeah your right

She op

[hidden creek]

they just slap op stuffs and op dmg multiplier on her and whoops she's broken

[tacit nest]

Justina is the newest one coming right?

[hidden creek]

yeah

[tacit nest]

Any leaks on what her skills or ult may be?

[fickle linden]

gotta make new things shiny or no one will play with em

[hidden creek]

probably the ice trail for ult

but what does it does exactly, no one knows

i mean they could slap a +50% dmg increase to bosses on it who knows lmao

[fierce light]

Someone said we'd get news on the 18th

[fickle linden]

would be cool if it did damage over time when boss stands on it

kurumi + justina in showdown

hyper duo ult mega damageee

[hidden creek]

like they slap the aegis dmg and additional dmg on tessa ult

[brazen dew]

anyone grinding niriti or enigmas?

[dusky cosmos]

i am grinding nirriti, i'd do enigma as well but only sense level like 1111

[brazen dew]

if you want another holler at me.

[dusky cosmos]

i'll be out of this nirrit in a few mins then ill add you

[brazen dew]

bet. MagnaSwing is IGN

[brazen dew]

im only sense 920 just fyi. been grinding topaz enigmas and niriti

*hard niriti

[turbid agate]

So is Zai coming to showdown?

[amber terrace]

soon but 2-3 years

[turbid agate]

That is not soon lol

[amber terrace]

[turbid agate]

I hope her and Lannie come sooner than later

And lyam

[tacit nest]

I wonder what character will get the new knives weapon

[amber terrace]

Hadi

[turbid agate]

They haven't even added Heng and fistblades, pretty sure it's going to be a while from now

[amber terrace]

Justina Gu - Long Sword
Lyiam & Shayol - Heng Sword

[turbid agate]

Akos: polesword or fists

[amber terrace]

Akos Hu - Fist Blades

Zai - Dual Blades

Cyra - Spear

[tacit nest]

Lannie - nunchucks

[turbid agate]

Ye

I could see Hadi w the dual halberds as well

[amber terrace]

Lannie - Dual Helberd

[brazen dew]

lethalbeagle?

[dusky cosmos]

ya

[brazen dew]

kkkk

[turbid agate]

Honestly they just need to add characters quicker in showdown

[compact steeple]

My friend refuses to play Showdown since he only plays Takeda lol

[fierce light]

That was my main when I did play PvP

[turbid agate]

Yeah Takeda w the Katana would go hard

[fickle linden]

idk how it takes them so long to add characters into showdown

like why

obviously they are holding out on us

[turbid agate]

It doesn't make money like crazy over priced skins so what's the rush lol

[fierce light]

Not surprised they added a Ziping skin when she debutted in Showdown.

Still the more heroes/weapons they add, the more likely a Showdown-main is to buy a skin for them

[turbid agate]

^yes!

I love the skins, don't get me wrong, I do buy them since I'm available too, but skins/pack/cosmetics pretty much every two weeks is insane.

[quaint girder]

Hadi is fan

It was in his debut cinematic

[quaint girder]

Takeda with Katana/Swarm with be bomb

I can also see him with Musket as well

[quaint girder]

Can also be Polesword depending on the direction 24E wants to go

I'm heavily leaning towards Fistblade because we need to debut that weapon and Akos fits it so well

[amber terrace]

watch trailer from hero appear u will know they will take which weapon

same like Ziping Ying use Spear in trailer

[quaint girder]

Wuchen was Longsword

[tacit nest]

^

[quaint girder]

Because fan didn't exist for Wuchen during his release

They changed it over to fan after Showdown

[amber terrace]

longsword just him skills

[quaint girder]

No his renders have Longswords

[amber terrace]

if u watch any chinese films

u will know chinese people will use fan

[shrewd basin]

When we gone get bloodripper showdown smh about to be the only way to level it up XD

[compact steeple]

Im pretty sure I've only seen bloodripper once lmao

[quaint girder]

That's pretty racist first off

[shrewd basin]

I’d take a bloodripper over a ranged weapon

[quaint girder]

Second his official render has him wielding Longswords

[compact steeple]

Fair, it could be fun

[quaint girder]

They swapped it to fan after fan came out

Fans didn't exist when Wuchen was released

After Fan was released they gave it Wuchen since they wanted to debut the new weapon

And it fit him so well

I'm glad the gave Wuchen the fan, it makes him badass

[amber terrace]

i think wuchen use fan before that

cuz on my exp from chinese film

[dusky cosmos]

anyone want to try nirritis nightscream trio with @brazen dew and i?

[fickle linden]

ping too high in NA

[lapis sundial]

Anyone need a 3rd for Speedrun?

This one is p$$ing me off 😂

[amber terrace]

which sv?

[drifting lance]

🌱 | Flip, hunt is empowered by [17/100] [136/800] [136/800] !
| You found: :bee: :bee: :bee: :bee: :bug: :bug: :butterfly: :butterfly: :snail: :snail: :snail: :mouse2: :rabbit2: :rooster: :cat2: :pig2:
| gained 81xp!

Flip goes into battle!

Log Link

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L.43 2024aug_maki
1320 HP 586 WP
L.34 lobbot
507 HP 118 WP
L.41 2024june_pastel
1006 HP 582 WP

Enemy Team

L.14 :sheep: sheep
0 HP 140 WP
L.14 :cow2: cow
0 HP 20 WP
L.14 :penguin: penguin
0 HP 58 WP

You won in 11 turns! Your team gained 200 xp! Streak: 2488

[sly kestrel]

Anyone can help me with paragon 1 yama's abyss ,eu server
Can't kill this boss solo 😤

[fierce light]

I'd say you might need to practice more if you're having trouble against him.

[quaint girder]

If you're having a hard time with this boss, you're going to have a hard time with the rest of Paragon

[glacial fable]

Nah paragon 1-4 is the worst

[fierce light]

Paragon 9 is probably the current worst. Omnious Scorch being the first boss in the game, doesn't have any annoying mechanics to deal with and they even made his swarm easier to handle since you can auto parry the entire thing.

[woeful monolith]

sigh

[quaint girder]

Just use Zippy and spin2win

[glacial fable]

Always worked👍 but not for paragon 4

[fierce light]

Dang, 1/9 chance of getting the exact same and you got it

[woeful monolith]

I get more scorching than anyone, its frustrating. Everytime I use a flux for a second rare....its scorching.

[hidden creek]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-laughing-gif-13031147940704744720

[woeful monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-middle-finger-gif-27148811

[fickle linden]

did not expect to see heikki silvennoinen here today 😆

[timid stirrup]

im stuck at p9 now

almost beat it and died at like 2% and timed out

[river stratus]

i think for paragon 4 thunderscorch is the way, you can farm parry on that stage

[timid igloo]

Yo when recasting a rare do I need to max it first to get a max attribute out of it or just it being a rare is enough??

[fierce light]

Random % in, Random % out.

Doesn't matter.

[timid stirrup]

if u mean a rare u dont want. then no it doesnt need to b a max rare

[timid igloo]

cheers, thanks!

[glacial fable]

How does recasting work ?
Can i recast a rare and get another rare or do i get a normal one

[fierce light]

Ngl the extra time on Paragon 11 does allow heroes that can barely clear Paragon 10 to still be able to do so.

[woven ingot]

Glad that they upped it.

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Migosha leveled up!

[woven ingot]

People who compete for timers won't reach the 6min timer anyway, that would mean their run is wasted anyway.
And people who struggle against a boss ... being beaten by a timer is really frustrating.

[fierce light]

Yeah 11 is much less of a dps check. Although it will be harder with lower dps

[sly kestrel]

The amount of blinking and defusing every attack is nerve-wracking
So I was struggling yea

[woven ingot]

Hellscorch in Para 1 is very aggressive. It's mainly a game of knowing its combo and punishing him after you parry him. You don't have much opportunities to charge attacks.

[astral widget]

paragon 11 is on?

or 12

[fickle linden]

11

[compact steeple]

I mean with him being very aggressive he also throws quite alot of blues so alot more parry windows to get damage in compared to alot of other bosses

[compact steeple]

It's 11 till Wednesday

[timid stirrup]

finally beat p9 lol

[hearty rivet]

p9 is the worst of the worst (so far), congrats!!!!

[fickle linden]

nice!

[astral widget]

p11 one person?

[steep patio]

No one can beat my 24 scorching poison build

[rigid rain]

Guys, can i ask how to get the background image of the selection in Nirriti's Ruin

It looks so cool, i want to make it my desktop background

[fierce light]

Good question

[rigid rain]

Niceeeeeeeeeeee

Thank you so very much

Love u ❤️

[rigid rain]

Do u accidentally have the legend one ?

[rigid rain]

Niceeeee ❤️

[dusky cosmos]

does anyone need to do Doom Speedrun this week?

[dusky cosmos]

is a divine thunder build with scorching any good? obviously most people dont seem to run it but seems like it could still be good damage if ur proccing hydroflare another way

[fierce light]

Divine Thunder doesn't have a way to activate Hydroflare, unless you're on Valda.

It's not a terrible attribute to put on, but as long as your parrying more than once every 18s, you won't get the full use out of it.

[dusky cosmos]

what do you mean by the last part?

parrying more often is missed opportunities to proc divine thunder?

Edit: im guessing you mean that the burn would last 18s normally so it wouldnt be as good unless you hydroflare it off?

assume i'm running a valda meme build and that's how i plan to proc hydroflare

[fierce light]

Scorching's Burn lasts for 18s. If you reapply it before then, it will overwrite it, essentially killing the remaining damage from the last application.

[dusky cosmos]

ah yeah, but if i clear it with a soaked status it wouldn't be as bad of a waste

[fierce light]

Divine Thunder also has the highest scaling from Elemental DMG than other builds by quite a bit, so Windfall is more valuable for it.

[hidden creek]

so you're planning to run hydroflare potential or thunder potential?

[dusky cosmos]

ah, moderation* also decreases elemental burst cd, i didn't know that (wrong)

[hidden creek]

you lose dmg both way

[hidden creek]

it doesn't

[dusky cosmos]

in theory i like the idea of a thunder build but since i'm playing valda i'm wondering if draco stride is really necessary, and if it's not necessary, what should i put in instead?

[hidden creek]

what he meant is with windfall instead of scorching ur divine thunder will deal more damages

[dusky cosmos]

ah, right thx

[hidden creek]

draco is always necessary

[fierce light]

[Moderation] reduces the cooldown of your Skill. Only thing that reduces Elemental Burst cooldown is Frozen Blast.

[dusky cosmos]

yeah sorry i got them confused, thanks

[hidden creek]

cuz only with it you could trigger 2 hydroflares from 1 time counter thundershock bar

[fierce light]

Thunder Scorch is so strong cause it can do 2 [Scorching]'s in one Thunder Counter.

[dusky cosmos]

i mean it's always necessary but... i'm interested in doing something that only valda can do even if it's not 100% best

[hidden creek]

not even 50%

[dusky cosmos]

you can trigger unlimited hydroflares within 3s with valda

[fierce light]

You don't want to cancel through your Thunder Counter on a Divine Thunder build.

They also have conflicting attributes, as Divine Thunder doesn't benefit from Health and Burn doesn't benefit from Divine Thunder DMG.

[hidden creek]

also you gonna need to imbue your soul jades with thunder which make it take longer to fill your thundershock bar

[dusky cosmos]

it could be like soak (3s) -> counter -> counter -> soak

[dusky cosmos]

yeah, how much worse is that? i can only use training room really and it seems about the same

[hidden creek]

''about the same'' you say

[dusky cosmos]

im not trying to say its the same, sorry

i should say, in the training room configs, it doesn't seem to let me show a big difference

[hidden creek]

did you tried 6x ice vs 6x thunder essence?

try and see for yourself

[fierce light]

Thunder Scorch works like this. You will only benefit from 3/4 of the Thunder Counters at the most, 2/4 most commonly.

[dusky cosmos]

yeah i did try the 6x each and basically one dragonstrike combo nearly filled the bar up for both

so i assume it's just the training room

[hidden creek]

on which target?

[dusky cosmos]

mountain giant

[hidden creek]

🙂

i can do you a test clip rn

[fierce light]

Also have to keep in mind with the current Divine Thunder Lotus build, the damage from a single Thunder Counter is more than doubled due to Mighty Lotus Counter

[dusky cosmos]

how do you mean? is that basically the damage the lotus deals over its lifetime

basically the build i was thinking of trying is tabbies thunderscorch v2 but dropping dracostride and putting in either copper ward or blossom blast

[fierce light]

If you're not running Thunder Root on your potential, then you mine as well not bother with Blossom Blast.

[dusky cosmos]

then putting in divine thunder attributes on the jades where i can. i'm also just starting so i have very little rare attributes anywhere anyway. so while the divine thunder is a waste compared to optimal, i don't know what else i'd put in anyway

[hidden creek]

the thing is

[dusky cosmos]

yeah, point starved trying to make that work right now, i'd have to drop the hydroflare stuff which obviously goes against the idea of what im tryin to do

[hidden creek]

if you want scorching dmg you go blazing flame and water & fire raged
if you want divine thunder dmg you go thunderoot

if you want fast proc for more counter you imbue ice
if you want high divine thunder dmg you go thunder

[fierce light]

• a Thunder Counter (ball) does 350% of your Attack.
• a Blossom Blast • Thunder Root does 560% of your Attack.

• both scale from Divine Thunder DMG
• loses 1/7th of its damage for every Thunder-Wielding value below +6.

• a Blossom Blast does 417% of your Attack.

• does not scale from Divine Thunder DMG, Poison Blast DMG, nor Ice Blast DMG.
• does not care about your Element-Wielding value.

[hidden creek]

if you want more hydroflare you parry then dodge for 2x active
if you want high divine thunder dmg you parry all 4

[dusky cosmos]

yeah, im following now. i suppose my thought process is, would 12 scorching give me a net damage increase if i was a Divine Thunder build but still used hydroflare procs

i assume no one tries this cause other characters can't do it, and valda is trash so why bother

[hidden creek]

nah

we all thought about it

[fierce light]

Such a build would be doing horizontal investment, which wouldn't be an increase.

[hidden creek]

when scorching was first buffed

[fierce light]

Thunderbolt Anime Ring builds vs Element Anima Ring builds are a good example of why Horizontal Investment is a bad thing in Showdown.

Thunderbolt Anima Rings tend to give you more sources of damage, with very little buffs to the entirety of damage. Element Anima Rings all increase the damage of one thing and stack multiplicatively.

[hidden creek]

but the idea was quickly scraped

because anyone with experience could immediately realize that it's not good

scorching used to be super trash

on any builds

even on burn/hydroflare builds

when they buffs it people tried everything anything already

[fierce light]

I can calc it right quick

[dusky cosmos]

i'd be interested in "how bad" it is, cause still seems like a bit of fun doing both divine thunder + thunderscorch in one kinda. Though i fully understand 20% of big number > 50% of small number, etc

[hidden creek]

i mean your idea is basically give up on some windfall (divine thunder dmg) to get some scorching (hydroflare dmg)

[dusky cosmos]

yeah, essentially

there's also an element of, right now my build has 0 windfall cause i'm just starting so i have an "extra mod" right now anyway

[hidden creek]

but the thing is to do so you gonna need to give up the proper setup and gameplay for hydroflare dmg, and if so this hydroflare dmg from scorching won't even be good

compare to just run windfall for divine thunder dmg

also it doesn't matters if you're running valda or not

[dusky cosmos]

the only real difference here from normal hydroflare setup tho is i would have to drop the 20% hydroflare dmg, but i'd gain a fair amount of attack nodes from the red tree so 🤷

i guess i'd swap health for the divine thunder damage in a maxxed setup

[dusky cosmos]

others wouldnt have teh ability to proc hydroflare tho right?

[hidden creek]

so what kind of gameplay you gonna do?

[plucky wyvern]

where cna i find soul jade quick?

because Nuritti take too much time

[hidden creek]

2x scorching proc each thundershock bar parry or 1x?

like when divine thunder comes you gonna parry all 4 or not?

[dusky cosmos]

ideally all content including Yama's. I know that at some point the math doesn't add up for Yamas.

It would proc be a mix depending if they were already soaked before i started

[hidden creek]

no i mean the input