👾┃showdown

[tacit nest]

mods help wayyyy more

[timid stirrup]

i still need to do p6

[tacit nest]

but my blasts dont do enough

[fierce light]

I'm down

[tacit nest]

dark saves the day

[timid stirrup]

im also at 150%

[tacit nest]

😔 🙏

[tacit nest]

i can try and help you ina bit

if you got third?

[warped falcon]

Yea i do

[tacit nest]

just got 4 mods so my proc blasts will happen alot more

[warped falcon]

But its a lot harder because you cant change key bindings or mouse sensitivity

[tacit nest]

thank you dark

[timid stirrup]

yea thanx

[tacit nest]

one spots open for peak if interested

[cyan grove]

Oh, then yeah it’s not worth at all. Ty for the answer

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Krowhl leveled up!

[twin ledge]

did u still need help on 7 or did zero help?

im to lazy to go back up and see if he did lol i just remember u saying u needed help

[tacit nest]

we could use some help

please

got my final mod so im doing lil bit more damage now

[tacit nest]

@fierce light

100% mod now

[fierce light]

Oh i thought you said you had it earlier

[tacit nest]

i just had gotten 4 mods

3 was still 15%

[fierce light]

Ohh

[tacit nest]

took 45 crystlas to get 100 percent now

[trim pulsar]

How is everyone getting 2 rare on a soul jade? I don’t get a ton of flux items.

[tacit nest]

upgrade a jade your not using and once it gets a rare

deconstruct

[fierce light]

So this Omen is a multiplier. So +200% Ice Blast DMG would be equivalent to +290%.

[steep patio]

Does anyone know why my silkworm is like that

Nvm it’s a windfall

[fierce light]

https://youtu.be/FiKqkHcilpU?si=QP44_Spaag7P29Dv

[tacit nest]

i called this video in my folder "BS"

[lapis sundial]

Hi hello

[valid mirage]

gguy

[turbid agate]

bye

[lapis sundial]

Oof

Just like my ex 😶

😂😂

[woven ingot]

When a boss turns pinkish like that it doesn’t mean it is desactivated. If the boss has started an attack it will finish it and only after it will respawn. It’s a bit unfair I agree. Moreover when it makes weird things like you had, launching a projectile, respawns and only then you get hit by the projectile due to the travel time.
Pink bosses should take no damage but do no damage to the players.

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Migosha leveled up!

[hidden creek]

''what would be your element of choice?''
''uhh... everything?''

[astral widget]

someone want to play doom speedrun? EU Server

[woven ingot]

You love them all!

[hidden creek]

lil bit of dis lil bit of dat

[tame flume]

Hey guys, how do i get the legendary SJ Mighty Lotus Counter?

[astral widget]

holoroth?

am i right?

[woven ingot]

That's good, you like to try things, game is letting you check what you prefer.

[astral widget]

I'm looking for someone to play paragon 3 trio or speedrun doom EU server

[woven ingot]

You found the perfect name change!! 😂

[hidden creek]

it's actually my original ign lmao

[woven ingot]

Oh! So you tried to change, but acknowledged that was your true form?

[hidden creek]

wdym they're all my true forms

i never hide

[woven ingot]

Yeah, this one especially.

[hidden creek]

😂

[woven ingot]

At least I could recognize you instantly.
Maybe also a bit because I got 2 people in friendlist in SEA so that wasn't too hard.

[hidden creek]

you could add nickname for ppl and it'll stay there so you always know who's who if they change their name

[woven ingot]

True. But not needed, I'll find you anyway.
Moreover when you use names describing yourself!

Good to know tho if I got people in FL that'd like to change their name too often.

[fierce light]

Yeah doesn't help when you have a bunch of English-speakers who change their name a bunch in Chinese

So that nickname feature really comes in handy

[woven ingot]

That I can imagine ahah.
Tabbie won't write Chinese I think. Could do it in Vietnamese but that would be instantly recognizable.

[hidden creek]

oh you have no idea

i got my ign in chinese multiple times

[woven ingot]

That was a trap, don't fall for it 😛
I told you I would find you no matter what anyway.

[hidden creek]

but when i use chinese for ign, my random chinese teammate starts typing mid match and speaks chinese on voice comm

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-dow-gif-24856862

and i got random dming me, on chinese ofc

so i changed it back

[woven ingot]

Absolutely deserved heh!!
And of course you don't speak Chinese.

[hidden creek]

😂😂😂

yeah i don't

i can understand it to a certain degree, if someone is speaking

but i can't read nor speak chinese lmao

[woven ingot]

Voice com. I forgot that existed.
I had it at start. Was never used. Until that time were I met that guy who think it's necessary for everyone in the party to hear him watch tv, breath like a bull and eat chips...

[woven ingot]

Then it's fair you got punished by receiving pm in Chinese! Take a Chinese name receive Chinese pms!

[hidden creek]

yeah i usually have it off too

but sometimes when i needed points and doing random trios i put it on

cuz i met ppl who's on a 2 man party and they're making calls, even though i won't communicate with them but knowing what they're up to is still useful to a certain degree

[woven ingot]

That's making sense. I can understand that.
I'm only doing PvE so I don't really need to hear what people think if I'm doing low level Dooms with random teammates.

[hidden creek]

[fierce light]

Would be cool if we did get more content with mechanics, somewhat similar to Buried Giant.

Outside of bosses requiring you to react faster/have better ping.

[hidden creek]

yeah like those mmorpg raids

[woven ingot]

Yes, but outside of an MMO it always feel kinda weird.

Moreover when you try to have a Battle Royale game players trying to communicate over a pve strategy 😂

[hidden creek]

eh it's normal imo

i mean on other mmo there's pvp and pve too

naraka settings is fitting

[woven ingot]

Mhmm. If that happens, I'll let you do the talking and simply play my part then 😂

[hidden creek]

judging on how little attention showdown got this game will come to closure before it could happens 😂

[woven ingot]

Sounds quite right. And fine by me.

[bronze wharf]

[woven ingot]

That feels quite sad.

[bronze wharf]

Naraka Meme XD

[tacit nest]

type shi

i didnt know that

[turbid agate]

That would be dope, a PvE style raid w mechanics that need you to communicate like Destiny 2 Raids and so fourth, would be epic.

[fierce light]

Weird amount of Catch Up Points, that's with all bosses defeated?

16.7% chance of all blues from 11 Souljades.

[twin ledge]

Dang ur the one stealing all my catch up all I want atm

[bronze wharf]

i still don't understand that catch up point and i will not

[woven ingot]

I'm used to accuse Dark of stealing my luck.
Accusing people of stealing your badluck, that's something else!

[twin ledge]

I need 10 more catch and I’ll be at 200

And 200 gives the 30 fragments but I’m at 800 fatigue and only got 2 catch up this week

Game is trolling me this time

I’m even holding back on not using elixers

[fierce light]

Yeah Elixirs just mean less matches per week, so less chances of catch up

[tacit nest]

one more for doom we got a spot?

quick luh doom run

[timid stirrup]

im down

[tacit nest]

bet

[river stratus]

[drifting lance]

🎉 | quaverr leveled up!

[formal jackal]

Yama paragon3 2 player good

[twin ledge]

Oh nice at 190

[lavish mango]

Yama's Abyys who can help me? (800 Sense - Gold 1)

[turbid agate]

nice

[lucid chasm]

hello solace i am yuki

[quick magnet]

What da heck bro

😂

[twin ledge]

if that keeps happening thats would be a issue to u pc so i would look out for that but knowing naraka could just be it bugged

[quick magnet]

def not my pc, and it's a bug from Naraka

[twin ledge]

ok

[heavy gulch]

sea, i can help.

[trim pulsar]

Need 1 more to help with manticore hunt- nightscream

[woven ingot]

Nice one. From my few tries I thought there was a timer to swap to Beast if you were too long or it swapped forcefully when the hp bar of Vortex reached 50%.

But in fact no, you really can ignore Beast by putting Vortex down in one go.

[polar light]

yes, and only thunder scorch can kill the egg

[lavish mango]

Oh nice to hear this. When

[drifting lance]

🎉 | SaleST leveled up!
| Extra rewards were added for missing levels

[heavy gulch]

Ready to play, add me as a friend

[hearty rivet]

that 29.9% 😵‍💫

missing that 0.1% and a windfall for a finished ice build 🫠 (in 20-ish recasts got that 0.1% )

[twin ledge]

Nice will only take around 100 recast for it

lol

And I don’t think 20 will be enough must be getting lucky for that

[hearty rivet]

iirc I was super lucky and it took about 20-25 recasts.

[twin ledge]

Now I know why I have to do over 100 for mine ur the one taking everyone’s luck

[lyric trench]

Damn I wish recast value has some guarantee like recast attribute.

[fierce light]

They mentioned adding it, but didn't

[chrome seal]

What do you guys do with blue jades if the builds are already max sense lvl? Convert them into purple/gold?

[woven ingot]

Yes. Convert them. Nothing else to do with them.

[lyric trench]

convert them then destruct into shard for recast

[analog aspen]

which hero do you guys prefer to do topaz enigma 3 bosses? My best runs are usually with tessa but idk if others would be faster

[analog aspen]

[fickle linden]

i just did them with heros that wasn't lvl 20 yet since it's fast hero xp

now that all my heros are lvl 20 im gonna do it with heros that use weapons i don't have lvl 25 yet

it's fast enough with any hero i feel like

[analog aspen]

I see, is there a particular reason you try to get the weapons to lvl 25?

[chrome seal]

Aight. Was just wondering if anything else possible to do I might be missing out on

[fickle linden]

nah, just for completion or something i guess

lvl 25 doesn't even give chest anymore but eh 🤷‍♂️

[analog aspen]

maybe I can do that too, then I dont use the same heros over and over again

[chrome seal]

Gets you an achievement for the profile score

[fickle linden]

oh right hero badge points

[chrome seal]

And weapon avatars. I'm not talking in his name but just adding my 2cents;)

[woven ingot]

Completion and there is one achievement for having X weapons at level 25. Beside that no real interest beside not playing always the same hero when it's super easy content like 3 bosses Topaz.

[chrome seal]

I didn't read the older msgs but also just to add, it's quickest to do through yamas abyss runs from lvl1. Every boss/lvl gives 1k XP for the melee weapon and 500 I think for the range. Completed few weapons XP that way

[woven ingot]

That's only if you're full focused on leveling weapons tho. Doing that brings you nothing else than weapon xp. Leveling them in 3 bosses Topaz give you 1.9K weapon xp in 2-4 minutes and the run loots.

[analog aspen]

yeah thats true. but other than exp points you dont get any good loot from yama's

[fickle linden]

i forgot to check last night, does 3boss peak give more weapon xp than topaz?

[chrome seal]

Oh I didn't know it's that much through topaz. Might be wasting keys by doing that tho, but I do agree about yama it's that sole purpose which I did indeed

[chrome seal]

Yep

[woven ingot]

I can't tell as I was playing Yueshan and his weapon is maxed.
Could be, but I ain't sure they bothered with giving more weapon xp to Peak.

[analog aspen]

but peak takes just so much more time to clear 3 bosses

is it even efficient to do?

[woven ingot]

Peak 3 bosses is only for trio parties. If solo you're better running Topaz. Unless you're top 1% player and can get a good clearing speed of Peak 3 bosses.

[fickle linden]

we did as trio

[analog aspen]

ig I should stick to topaz then

[woven ingot]

If solo yes. Peak 3-bosses will only be worth it with a premade that can clear decently Peak. Else it will be too long and you're better doing Topaz 3-bosses.

[twilit heart]

where's the use of showdown challenge points currency? also can the showdown pass be maxedout without buying levels?weekly points nearly gives 2-3 levels ig.

[fickle linden]

what's showdown challenge points currency? there is showdown store in praparation page

[woven ingot]

It's not a currency, it's points. There are points for leveling the current Showdown battlepass. And other kind of points to level the Showdown season.

[fickle linden]

and yes you can very easily max out showdown pass without buying levels if you play showdown regularly

[woven ingot]

Showdown challenge points level that thing

Showdown pass xp increase your progression on the Showndown Battle pass.

[twilit heart]

oh this one.thankyou!

[woven ingot]

Those things looking like a currency are confusing. They are only points in fact ^^

The only currency in Showdown are those

[fickle linden]

it was all pretty confusing when i started

showdown season.. showdown pass..

weekly challenges, seasonal challenges

[twilit heart]

true,i just started doing showdown and

[cyan grove]

Hello, how do we complete this?

[chrome agate]

Play matches, a lot and each match showdown u complete with „bad“ rewards u get Catch up points

[fierce light]

Every mission you run has an average expected number of Souljade Fragments based on your current Rewards %. If you get below that amount, then you'll be given Catch-Up Points.

[cyan grove]

Oh I see, thank you

What would you suggest to finish it quickly?

[analog plume]

Hi I don’t mean to intrude but can someone help me and my friend with paragon 3 please and thank you

[woven ingot]

Don't forget to specify your server 😉

[analog plume]

Oh my apologies

NA

[woven ingot]

No worries ^^
My ping is too high for NA, but there are quite some people from there, you should find someone pretty soon.

[analog plume]

Ok thank you

Nvm thank you tho

[fierce light]

Can't really rush it, but best bet probably are chapter missions

[cyan grove]

Ah? Alright, thank you

[fierce light]

I wouldn't recommend aiming for them

The loss in resources would be more than you'd gain

[cyan grove]

Yeah, I'll just run niriti

till I reach the amount I need

Idk how many weeks it'll take tho

[hidden creek]

more like how many months lol

[fierce light]

Basically if you got them that means you got below average fragment drops and it'll only refund 5/8ths of the difference from the average.

[hearty rivet]

given you can run only 54 nirritis a week I do hope it won't be weeks for you 😔

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Ardiehime leveled up!

[olive bay]

what’s the best hero for yamas abyss

[fickle linden]

depends on your build, which yama abyss level you are doing and are you doing solo or trio mode

i'd guess

yueshan, tessa, matari, tarka, feria and viper seem to be most popular ones

[cyan grove]

Yeah, I just realized, they're crazy for this because wtf??? 600 damn games???

[hidden creek]

it's normal

it's not supposed to be finished early, or intentionally farming for

[cyan grove]

yeah but like

600

is just insane

for 1 dumb flux

[hidden creek]

the rewards is shit yes, but the thing is you don't need to do anything for it aside from just playing showdown

[fierce light]

Everyone with a strong ability pretty much.

[fierce light]

It's a long term reward basically.

[hidden creek]

like it's just an achievement

the 1 flux means nothing lol

[cyan grove]

yeah

[woven ingot]

Meaniiieeee!!! 😂

[woven ingot]

And, as much as i'm craving for Fluxs, there is no way I'd spend 10K silk for one. Not before I've emptied both silk shops and I' got 3 red stars on my Star weapons. So ... pretty much never? 😂

[hidden creek]

oh yeah it cost 10k silk too

😂

[woven ingot]

Yeah, I don't get why. When you have reached that point, I'd think they could leave you a Flux for free. Or at least not for a huge 10K Silk on a one time purchase.

[cyan grove]

I have 700K + silk

10k is nothing tbh

[woven ingot]

Send that to me and i'll make them vanish in 30 min max 😂

[hidden creek]

until you got a star skin or until you lacking few k for 1m for star skin silk auction

[timid stirrup]

i will gladly take that off ur hands and use it on my star outfit

[lilac stag]

what do rune keys do?

doesn't even say what it does, only how to get it. im sitting on 50 of these

[fierce light]

You use them to enter Enigma Domain missions.

[cyan grove]

I'll probably never invest that much money into cosmetics lol

[lilac stag]

js a question about nirritis
I'm on hard for about 2 weeks now, how tf do i get more attribute bonus for nightscream? I'm on 11 since 2 weeks

is it getting new anima rings? cause i keep getting the old ones and never see any new ones or the upgrades thanks to how rng it is, getting to the upgraded levels feels impossible

[timid stirrup]

Fire forge upgrades vary. Bosses killed, rooms cleared, and something else I can't remember

[fierce light]

When you go into your Fire Forge menu, it should tell you the objectives needed to level each attribute.

Iirc they were:

• Spending Fatigue on Nirriit's Ruins
• Defeating Bosses
• Total Number of Zones Cleared

[timid stirrup]

That's what I was missing. Fatigue spent

[lilac stag]

that explains a lot ok

thanks yall

[bronze wharf]

[fierce light]

There's a skin for his Ultimate now?

Also they buffed his Skill to where it hits as hard as Viper's (assuming all the ticks land).

[turbid agate]

yeah, they added it like a week ago.

[bronze wharf]

my ear !

[analog aspen]

Guys, why does yueshan deal a lot more dmg with ice lotus compared to poison lotus?

I just had one that did 13 million dmg in enigma peak

I always only do around 7 million

is it skill diff or is ice build just a lot stronger?

My build is not maxed but I dont think that a few % make such a big difference

[river stratus]

ice stronger

[fickle linden]

one more week for poison buffs

[analog aspen]

do we already know what is getting buffed?

[fickle linden]

nopee

[timid stirrup]

in my group my yueshan does near equal dmg as a poison user

[analog aspen]

the yueshan I played with had a chinese name

maybe thats the difference

[fickle linden]

nice skin = 10% more dmg

chinese name = 20% more dmg

[fierce light]

Ice Lotus has access to Frozen Blast, which allows them to use their Skill every 4s instead of 6s. It also has enough accumulation to proc Ice Blast with just Skill + Vertical 1st Charge instead of having to do Skill + x2 Vertical 1st Charge.

So it ends up in them having over Poison:

• More Ultimates due to increased use of Skill.
• More Ultimate Skills (the hardest hitting in the game atm).
• Significantly faster proc rate of Elemental Bursts.
• No need to use their incredibly bad Martial Skills.

[analog aspen]

now that sounds unfair

thanks for the clarification!

[quaint girder]

Hopefully they'll get better at balancing characters, but for now it is what it is now

[quaint girder]

Lightning and Poison builds will get buffed when Ziping is released on <t:1740610800:F>. We don't know what the buffs entail, but devs want it to work at the same level as the Ice Build we have currently.

[analog aspen]

ohh lightnig will get buffed as well

I always thought that sh*t already does a lot of dmg to bosses xD

[fickle linden]

that's thunderscorch build

it won't get buffed

[olive bay]

what’s the best build for yama’s?

[fierce light]

In his base form for example, this is the DPS comparison of Ice Lotus vs Poison Lotus on Yueshan (35.05% DPS increase for Ice over Poison):

[quaint girder]

Thunderscorch won't be touched, just core Lightning

[fierce light]

Thunderscorch does irrelevant Divine Thunder DMG so it won't be affected, unless they for some reason make it charge faster.

[fickle linden]

i knew ice was better for yueshan but 35% is alot more than i thought

[fierce light]

Yeah he's the most extreme case by far

and that's not even including his Ultimate

If Poison gets an Accumulation boost, it might help. But feels like it needs a couple buffs to close the gap.

[fickle linden]

yueshan too strong

[woven ingot]

Yueshan is lovely.
Unless you're TenKey's Yueshan.

[woven ingot]

Ahah, photoshopping helps him a lot here

[lavish mango]

Doom domain who can play (EU server) but I have 800 souljade

[turbid agate]

Is frozen blast a must w Ice Lotus? Do you lose too much damage if you don't use it? I use Arcane Thunder instead

[hidden creek]

you only need arcane thunder if you can't proc elemental blast on bosses with 1x charge attack and 1x F

which is poison's case

frozen blast allows ice build to do so and also increase ice blast dmg so it's superior

[fierce light]

On Yueshan in particular, Arcane Thunder is bad cause it doesn't shorten your rotation at all for Poison or Ice. It'll still be x1 Charged Attack + x1 Skill for Ice and x2 Charged Attack + x1 Skill for Poison.

Only hero at the moment where it would be justifiable over Frozen Blast I'd say is Viper since her Charged Attacks and Skill have rather low accumulation values. On Yueshan for example, you'll deal 21% more DPS with Frozen Blast than Arcane Thunder.

[turbid agate]

Damn alright, ty. I just feel like I freeze like crazy when I use Frozsn blast. Lol

Need to get better at using my skill at dodging it lol

[gaunt yoke]

Is it better to run 3 bosses peak or 3 bosses topaz? Which gives better rewards?

[fierce light]

3 bosses peak; Better drop rate, same quantity.

[gaunt yoke]

Oh ok, Thanks 👍

[woven ingot]

But you need a team for it. If solo it will be too long and Topaz will end up being better. Unless you have infinite time to play during your week.

[astral widget]

WHY THIS FUC*ING ROCK ON PARAGON HAS SO MUCH WRONG HITBOX

WHATS WRONG

im behind laser and take damage

why 😦

[sly kestrel]

we need a 3rd for showdown shadow's abyss astral and doom , anyone wanna join ?

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Medici leveled up!

[astral widget]

EU server?

[sly kestrel]

eu

[analog plume]

Hi how is everyone but I was wondering if anyone knew when Ziping Yin was joining showdown

[sly kestrel]

next update

[sly kestrel]

wanna join ?

[woven ingot]

Should be tomorrow or next week.

[radiant cedar]

For this, feria is good option? 🤔

[woven ingot]

Feria or Valda. You want a musket user.

[radiant cedar]

Ok, ty. I going need some range rings? I cant remember what is the base dmg 😫

[hidden creek]

yeah pick some ranged ring

then break the mob's aegis

and do an aim headshot

[woven ingot]

Yes you need a few of them. Just take most ranged related rings you can find.
You don't have to finish the run, only to deal at least one attack of 6k+ damage. So you can leave once you did 2-3 of them to be sure.

[hidden creek]

if it's not enough then continute to pick ranged rings then try again next stages

[radiant cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/yuuki-aine-anime-girl-anime-o7-aikatsu-gif-26543572

[woven ingot]

On stages with houses, you can go top the roof and have all the time you want to aim as elites won't climb.

[radiant cedar]

Oooo oki! I might go solo then xD ty

[woven ingot]

You can solo that without problem yes.

[analog plume]

Thank you

[analog plume]

Thank you

[sly kestrel]

we need a 3rd for showdown shadow's abyss astral and doom , anyone wanna join ?

[twin ledge]

If u are na I can

[sly kestrel]

eu

[twin ledge]

Dam

[radiant cedar]

hm, I was doing 15k dmg, headshot, ty!

[scenic marsh]

yoo

anyone for some nirriti or doom?

[tacit nest]

did that poison buff happen yet or no

[fierce light]

Haven't had an update yet

[tacit nest]

i mightve missed the info

but i heard it was late feb

soon?

[twin ledge]

27th

Most likely

Or around that time

[tacit nest]

damn

so like very end

[twin ledge]

Not to long tbh

It’s the 18th now 2 weeks not bad

Almost 2

[tacit nest]

Hopefully iss good

Excited for zippin

[twin ledge]

Good luck with that she my main and I’m disappointed asf

Giving her a dam spear is stupid

[tacit nest]

Yeah but is her skill gonna be good?

If it’s good for accumulating then maybe not thatttt bad

[twin ledge]

Why would it be good

She a healer

[twin ledge]

Absolutely not

She ain’t gonna be good at all in my opinion as long as she has a dam spear

Might not even stay tbh because I’ve been waiting for ziping for so long she my most favorite character and main just for it to be a spear

[tacit nest]

Oh word💀💀

So like kurumi?

[tacit nest]

Can’t be that bad

Maybe they’ll give her specific buff lol

I lied

Maybe it’s bad. Buttttt have hope

[twin ledge]

She is a healer it’s gonna be just like kurumi bro

They are not gonna make her skill do dmg

[tacit nest]

I didn’t know she was a healer lol

St least kurumi has a katana

I assume that’s good?

[quaint girder]

I hope it's spear. I will cook to make Zippy and Valda Viable

[timid stirrup]

Kurumi has rope n can use yushan shadows to b a decent support with constant rope cutting

[twin ledge]

Spear is trash it’s old no one wants to use a weopon that’s already in showdown

[quaint girder]

It's lore accurate

[drifting hearth]

Hi everyone

Who know how to get account steam back

I lost my steam account

[twin ledge]

I know

She my main I know what it is but it’s why game is going dead because they can’t bring new stuff

[signal kite]

3+ times saying "zipping my main"
i think his fav hero maybe tianhai

[thorn narwhal]

@fierce light is mod on kuru worth keeping for the buff if you trying compete? For trios and solos

[past solstice]

but probably her ult or f will buff her dmg

[thorn narwhal]

It's annoying they don't actually rework/create new skills and ultimates for heroes that get moved into showdown, defeating the whole purpose of waiting 6 months for a hero just for them to be exactly same with what they have in pvp

[spice canyon]

It's decent if your buffed friend has perfect gameplay

[thorn narwhal]

It does increase both elemental damage and accumulation for both?

[spice canyon]

Just Attack and Defense

[fierce light]

Somewhat, yeah. You just use it right before you're about to do an Elemental Burst for the major buff. That requires keeping track of your accumulation though.

Or just right when a boss's Aegis breaks

Ziping has potential to be decent, but it really depends on how they make her Skill and Ultimate. Unfortunately won't be meta though since her skill won't do damage.

[analog aspen]

They really have to make her special in some way or another. We already have a spear girl that noone plays and a healer that is only played in rare situations

The combination just doesn't sound promising

[fickle linden]

she is gonna have a spear?

[analog aspen]

maybe not but there are a lot of pictures of her with spear

it would probably be lore accurate but they can do whatever they want

[fickle linden]

spear would be unsurprising but disappointing nonetheless

[woven ingot]

For once I hope they will be lore inaccurate.
I'm leveling spear with Valda at the moment, and if spear feels quite great in PvP with its movements, in PvE it's ... just feeling terrible to me. The moves aren't great, and on a character like Valda with a bad skill and an Ultimate that does less damage than playing the hero normally it doesn't help.

Kurumi may have nothing damage wise, but at least she got a Katana as her weapon. That redeems her a lot in Nirriti.

[quaint girder]

Honestly, they need to rework the Nezha's Might part for Showdown

That's super clunky. Especially with it being the counter attack

Valda's Ulti is pretty bad. If only she could proc Burn with every spear

Only synergy is maybe with Tarka when they both Ulti and pop off the hydroflare and soaked debuffs with heir combo

[fierce light]

Valda's Ultimate isn't that bad, but just unfortunately is only really effective with Ice builds. They buffed it to where the Spears actually do decent DPS (Heavy Spears being her highest DPS attack atm).

Ne Zha's Might needs that AoE attack instead of Dragonslayer Kick. Idek why they thought that was even needed since it's pretty hard to miss.

[fierce light]

Hydroflare is player specific, can't Soak someone else's Burn.

[fierce light]

If you can pull off Soul Slashes, then Katana will have more DPS than Spear. Otherwise, it's one of our weakest weapons at the moment (Longsword being the weakest followed by Dual Blades without Universe Slash).

[woven ingot]

I was about the charged H. Which does decent damage, but mainly have a great aoe size. Meaning you'll clean stages in Nirriti very smoothly.

[fierce light]

Yeah that's Soul Slash

[woven ingot]

Only downside being that it feels a bit long to charge, and the release often collide with bosses' attacks/elites blue charged attacks.
But nonetheless I got good clearing times on Nirriti with her.
For "real" Showdown, outside of Nirriti, no the weapon doesn't feel that great about bosses due to the charge time, and because she got no offensive skill/ult. I was only about her for Nirriti or mobbing.
For Spear, it's totally my own feeling, I just don't like the weapon's moves in PvE. The AoE is too short and very narrow. You'll rarely hit more than one target. And its dps is nearly the same as doing your charged. For something that lock you in stance for 4 seconds (thus being dangerous) I'd hope for a more damaging reward.

[fierce light]

Yeah Dragonslayer only really pays off after a Defuse since no charge time.

They did buff Ne Zha's Might to have decent DPS, just takes too long to pull off.

Would be better if we had Razor Swift rather than Heartstopper Kick.

[woven ingot]

That would clearly help the move a lot.

[granite marsh]

What would the fastest element buildup for spear be rn? Heartstopper into the spin?

[fierce light]

For Ice Build

x3 Charged Horizontal
Time: ~5.4s

For Poison Build

x1 Charged Horizontal
x1 Dragonslayer
x1 Ne Zha's Might
Time: ~5.73s

[fickle linden]

https://tenor.com/view/bow-gif-9602477

[lavish mango]

Who want's to play Doom (Souljade 805)

[analog aspen]

holy thats fast

[fierce light]

Yall must've killed the orb.

I wonder how fast Ice-Matari, Ice-Yueshan and Thunder Scorch-Tarka would be.

Oh, ew

Yeah I'm ready for this stage to go

[woven ingot]

1m21 without breaking the orb that's an impressive score.

[fierce light]

They broke it, not possible to get that low without it

[woven ingot]

I thought so, but got confused by "not enough damage to kill the orb". That was meant to be related with the team composition you put above, not without what they did on that run.

[fierce light]

I wish they would make it so Divine Thunder can't hit your teammates in general

It's annoying for anyone not playing that build and even if you are, it can interrupt you if you're not careful.

[hidden creek]

pretty sure it's not intended but they just lazy to change it cuz not enough people complained about it

imagine you could toxified your teammate with poison pool lmao

[fierce light]

I've died from my teammates a bit too many times from it

[hearty rivet]

hahaha, nirriti rng fun, I keep getting purple lotus rings but so far only got the mighty counter lotus ring (and it was not the first either ^^; )

[tacit nest]

so in solo enigma

what the percentage for boss so it doesnt move

had a 9 min time yesterday but i guarantee can cut that shorter

[fierce light]

As long as you don't go past 74% in Enigma Domain, the next spawn won't be forced to move. There's still a chance it can move, although I think recent patches have made it increasingly unlikely.

[tacit nest]

type shiiii

[analog plume]

Hi how is everyone I have a question about the rare effects of the souljades

[woven ingot]

You mean the rare attributes? Windfall, Moderation and Scorching?

[astral widget]

i have question. I did paragon 5 and why when i play yueshan with ice frost build i lose my rage %?

[woven ingot]

Was Paragon 5 with Matron as boss, and her ice puddles that lower your rage?

[analog plume]

Yes

[woven ingot]

The question being? 😉

[tacit nest]

wassuh migosha

how you doing mayne

[woven ingot]

Fine, waiting 15 more minutes for the reset, and going back to farm things ^^

[tacit nest]

excited to see paragon 8

this the highest ive been lol

[woven ingot]

You'll have to wait a few more hours for that ^^
I didn't looked at the omens, what's the boss that should be there?

[tacit nest]

hellhole vulnerable, thunderflare

those the omens

and idk what the boss is

[hidden creek]

me

[woven ingot]

ahahah ❤️

[tacit nest]

lmfao

[hidden creek]

[tacit nest]

maybe ominus scorch?

[astral widget]

okay thanks ;D

can u tell me paragon 7 how many steps is there?>

[woven ingot]

Hellhole is usually Hellscorch yes.
But could also be Tabbie that's true.

Thunderflare sound more like Oreate tho.

[tacit nest]

but that other thunder omen isnt there

and we just had an oreate

after scorch

[woven ingot]

I hope that won't bring it to Hellscorch plus Oreate at the same time.

I prefer to fight Tabbie if it is. Or not. Not sure.

[tacit nest]

what boss would tabbie be

[woven ingot]

A variation of Korvine. Tabbie is too much like Korvine.

[hidden creek]

bring it in

[woven ingot]

You're full of energy today, aren't you?

[hidden creek]

yeaa ig you shouldn't get an energy drink after a coffee but

kinda too late for that now

[tacit nest]

Korvine and matron

Mixed together

[tacit nest]

How’s that heart rate??

[hidden creek]

idk, i could hear my heart tho

is that a bad thing?

[woven ingot]

ahahah. Tabbie got something above drugs.
Heart rate at 200. Fair.

[tacit nest]

Let’s stay away from caffeine the rest of the day

😭😭

[hidden creek]

that's the thing

this** IS** the end of the day for me

[tacit nest]

DAMN

[hidden creek]

[tacit nest]

ITS BEDTIME FOR YOU

That heartbeat on be white noise for your sleep tonight

😭

[hidden creek]

good, i could dance to it in my dream

[woven ingot]

Tabbie got her own definition of "morning" "bedtime" etc.
But yeah, drinking cofee and energy drink before going to bed, what could go wrong?

[analog plume]

It shows like moderation on the right of it but I haven’t unlocked it, does it like raise the percentage of me unlocking it

[woven ingot]

What do you mean on the right?

[analog plume]

Like when I’m recasting the attribute of the souljade

[woven ingot]

Do you got a screenshot? I'm not sure what you mean.

Can't remember seeing any % related to rare attributes.

[analog plume]

Ofc give me a second

[timid stirrup]

thats recommended attributes for the souljade u r recasting

should say ice blast dmg, attack. increase dmg to boss, and moderation

[analog plume]

Yea that’s what I mean

[woven ingot]

If it's on the right when you recast attributes, then it's what Flip said. IT's the recommandations.

[analog plume]

Ok

[astral widget]

okay one more, do u know when they add paragon 8?

nvm i see now in the game ;D

[woven ingot]

@hidden creek still alive?

[hidden creek]

[woven ingot]

Ahah. Heart is still working. More or less.

[fierce light]

You breaking hearts?

[woven ingot]

Tabbie is, at first and second degree I guess.
Trying energy drinks after coffee. Result is .. special.

[hidden creek]

https://tenor.com/view/adventure-time-oh-wow-rainbow-cute-gif-4204057

[woven ingot]

Overenergized.

For the next 24h Tabbie got enough energy to be the boss of Yama 8 for every player

[twin ledge]

Huh he gonna be the boss?

That’s kinda broken I don’t think we can beat that

[analog aspen]

this weeks speedrun is absolutely impossible to do for me...

[twin ledge]

Try 1 on fire boss and 2 on rock

Split them up

[fierce light]

Those are randoms probably

Lot don't know the strat for double bosses

[woven ingot]

The speedrun is brutal.

[analog aspen]

yeah splitting them up is a good strategy

but somehow everyone keeps dying and then you get a surprise attack from the side

[twin ledge]

Best Strat for time tho is fighting them together

[twin ledge]

Well if u can beat it I’ll be down to come to eu later to help

Need to test something In eu anyways

[scenic marsh]

doom time whos with me\

[analog aspen]

Today just seems to be my bad luck day with teammates... but I should probably be able to solo this

[analog aspen]

its ok for now, I completed it once
just not in time

in eu top 500 isn't contested anyways

[woven ingot]

For Topaz don't bother, just go solo. Unless you want training in trio. But else you're better soloing.

[analog aspen]

I just like to play with other people

but noone seems to play peak on eu

[woven ingot]

It's hard to find a party yes.

[analog aspen]

and having tripple gold keys would also be nice for farming

without that I could just solo it yes

[timid stirrup]

i beat speedrun in 5m33s 4 seconds shy of 3 ⭐

[fickle linden]

first time ever rare from basic conversion..

[scenic marsh]

how does anyone get a group fordoom?

[twin ledge]

I solo them most of time or a lot of players do it

[astral widget]

someone want play enigma and doom all? EU SERVER

[river stratus]

[fierce light]

Ah the ember build haha

[analog plume]

Dark Zer0 what would you recommend for an ice build souljades and potential?

[olive bay]

yo how do you get flux jade shards

i just randomly got one from deconstructing jades idk how

[plain spire]

Deconstructing Souljades with rare attributes 1 rare = 1 flux jade shard

[olive bay]

ok ty

[plain spire]

Check the Pinned Messages

[fierce light]

Core Souljades:

• Successive Ice Blast
• Sub-Zero Seal
• Tundra Might
• Elemental Lotus
• Ghastbloom

Optional Souljades:

• Frozen Blast
  -# Greatly increases DPS against enemies with Astral Aegis.
• Arcane Thunder
  -# Recommended only for heroes with a strong ability. Can proc Ice Blast on mobs without Aegis from a distance.
• Cinderfrost
  -# Prevents you from being frozen.
• Yushan Shadows
  -# Allows you to Defuse being frozen and adds a long range damaging attack from frozen stacks.

[raw ocean]

Can somebody give me some recommend for Yoto Hime Potential pls

[plain spire]

potential depends on what kind of souljade set you are using

[raw ocean]

can you tell me more?

[fierce light]

https://dark-zer0.github.io/Showdown/build.html?option=1

[raw ocean]

Thank you so much!

[signal kite]

Holy cow regular fire build users still alive

🛐

[severe compass]

what do we need to do to get "chatch up" points fast and how?

[plain spire]

Play nitiri, bad drop in nitiri = big catch up points.

[quiet mural]

lf yama paragon 3 paty eu

[woven ingot]

Catch up points come from any area that have souljades as rewards. If your rewards are bad in legendary/epic Jades received (less than what the game considers it should be for that specific fight you did) you ll receive catch up points.
So nothing special, play what you want and you ll get catchup point eventually.

[lavish mango]

any doom domain rn?

[lyric roost]

your structure is not very good

but you played flawlessly.

[river stratus]

yeah can be faster for sure overwrite too much times ember

btw you are turbolaz?

[fierce light]

Think they meant your build isn't good, but you played it well.

[river stratus]

ooh ok got it now, thx

[stoic rapids]

Any recomment for paragon 8?

[fierce light]

Avoid the Hellholes as much as you can. If you touch them, you'll take significantly more damage.

[hearty rivet]

Yeah and bring rotten cabbages to pelt Korven and choice swear words for when she parks Hundun in the center of a lava puddle 😅

[fierce light]

Don't chase her if she does that. Also try to angle yourself to where if she chases you she won't go into one.

[hearty rivet]

Yeah, couldn't help and discovered that puddles are also no-fly zones regarding the fire debuff but eventually ended up fighting her at the edge of the arena which was relatively safe aside from the sometimes inconvenient camera positions.

[hidden creek]

🤡 everytime i play trio

the desync is just unbearable

[lyric roost]

yes

[river stratus]

nice to meet you

[amber terrace]

when we can test ziping ying?

[fierce light]

CN gets stuff ahead of us, idk

[lyric roost]

meetooo ❤️

[fickle linden]

did they give out ziping for test in CN already?

[hearty rivet]

Yesterday we had a looooot of similar issues on this fight 💀

[hidden creek]

i swear whenever i do trios i couldn't parry or defuse anything

[hearty rivet]

I feel your pain had the exact issue in late 1.5, solo was fine, trios was awful

[hidden creek]

yeah solo i rarely eat any attacks from this boss

but in trios lmao

i looks like a completely idiot

face tanking everything

[woven ingot]

You should still have enough caffeine in your blood to have reflexes out of this world Tabbie.
But yes trio ping is something else. Yesterday especially, couldn't get a parry out on Umbral Hellscorch in Doom3. And it was very unreliable in Speedrun.

[hearty rivet]

oh btw, today on my casual Tessa-attempt on Eerie Korven I had like 5-6 of that no-defuse thing you grumbled earlier when she absorbs the attack with her iframe instead triggering defuse o.o;;;

Then Korven/Hundun started chain-jumping up and down not letting me attacking her but shooting way behind me too to damage me until lotuses suddenly popped Hundun's weak spots, was kinda hilarious.

[signal kite]

Ayo when is zipping coming

It's too much boring now

[fierce light]

<t:1740628800:D>
-# (<t:1740628800:R>)

[signal kite]

6 more days ahhhghhh

[hearty rivet]

Wait @fierce light who do you want to poison? 👀 Or is it just a reference that you're a poison-build enthusiast?

[fierce light]

Wdym?

[hearty rivet]

The cantarella in your status message ^^;

[fierce light]

Oh, mainly cause she's hot.

The poison jellyfish is more of a coincindence lol

[hearty rivet]

OHHH! Googled it

[fierce light]

She's confirmed to come out next patch

[hearty rivet]

Cantarella is also the name of an (in)famous poison medieval/renaissance Italy, know I know it's a character too in a game! :D

[fierce light]

Ooo lmao 🤣

[tacit nest]

need 2 for speedrun

lmk

[ancient fossil]

Game is dead rip naraka on xbox crap game

[fierce light]

Still no word on next update 😮‍💨

[twin ledge]

Did u ever end up finding 3rd?

[tacit nest]

I ending up getting off

Couldn’t find no one

[dusk plover]

You dodged/attacked canceling your defuse before his attack registered. That’s why only you got hit there and the other twos defuse proc. Or your internet just went poopoo there at that moment.

[dusk plover]

Any news on what the new poison and thunder buff will be?

Also new pb on the shipwreck map

[plucky fog]

true, 1 lag, all lag

[lyric trench]

This game seem to favor those with high ping. every time they're around you things just go crazy.

[drifting lance]

🎉 | OhLordFrieza leveled up!
ℹ | Level up messages can be disabled for the guild with owo level disabletext

[south tusk]

My Zani funds no safe anymore

[woven ingot]

Would that be the explanation of trio ping being bad? The game would force all players to the worst ping of the tree?
That would be the worst net code ever done. But at least would be a possible explanation for the latency you can feel in trio. But if they coded it that way … would be a good idea to take some more net coding courses 😂

[lyric trench]

seem that way. when I'm fighting the boss alone during trio enigma I don't feel any lag or delay but as soon as someone with high ping joined in the area boss's hit box activate timing become mess up and I end up dying because I can't defuse or counter anything.

[plain spire]

Only in this game i'm constantly getting connection to server issue, while i've tested on other online games like csgo,apex,pubg,league of legends i don't get lag or any kind of connection issue. It started around january and the issue starts around 1 pm to 12 am. I have a 200 mbps stable internet.

[woven ingot]

They said they would work on adding server nodes this year. Let’s hope it will help.
Having totally unreliable parry/defuse as soon as you re in trio isn’t the best feeling. Moreover when bosses are able to two-three shot you.

[amber terrace]

finally

time to test Ziping Ying

[steep wadi]

i hope ziping has heng sword

[amber terrace]

Yo

[amber terrace]

Ziping Ying use Spear in video trial

[steep wadi]

noooo

[amber terrace]

Hengsword for Shayo Wei

Fist Blast for Akos Hu

[steep wadi]

i wish showdown allowed you to choose your weapons and ranged

can you post a video of her f and ult please

[fierce light]

Oh snap they added Razor Swift

[amber terrace]

nice skill martial

new souljades

[fierce light]

Ziping Ying

• Aegis-Break Martial Skill
  Ziping spins forward and pierces enemies.
• Defuse Counterattack
  Sends her Spear forward dealing continuous damage.
• Skill/Ability
  -# Can instantly cast Dragonslayer attack following usage.
  Increases Attack and Elemental Accumulation for the entire team and provides a non-interruption shield.
• Ultimate
  -# Can instantly cast Dragonslayer attack following usage.
  Increases the team's Elemental Damage, heals all allies and provides protection from 1 fatal attack.

[analog plume]

OMG IM SRY BUT IM FANGIRLING 😂😂

[woven ingot]

She won’t be a top as her skill doesn’t do damage. But skill increasing elemental accumulation and ult increasing elemental damage for the whole team could make her a viable trio pick.

Lots of sadness for the spear choice tho …

[fierce light]

Looks like Thunder Lotus is gaining a new Core Jade. I'll have to test and see if Poison Lotus's new jade will be worth though.

It's sounding like the Successive Ice Blast for Bloom Blast

Ice jade is useless. Would be worse than Frozen Blast for tankier enemies and worse than Arcane Thunder for small mobs. Maybe some use case for mobbers who don't have a strong ability, but they'd probably prefer an Elemental Wielding Jade.

[quaint girder]

Calllleeeeddd it

[quaint girder]

I am very happy they kept her lore accurate

Will Valda get Razor Swift lmao

[quaint girder]

Those are some spooky faces

[quaint girder]

This is actually a very good take on support. They cooked very well and leaned into what is needed to survive in this current state of Showdown

[quaint girder]

Never. Heng is reserved for Shayol, Kylin, and Lyam Liu

[bronze wharf]

i'm glad i didn't bought ziping ying ability accessory

[fierce light]

If that's the only buff for Poison, it won't be enough to close the gap

So looks like I'm making an Ice build.

[woven ingot]

I know it’s lore accurate. Doesn’t change the fact i don’t want that weapon ^^
Could be worse and be a staff with its auto defuse counterattack heh.
We ll see how her skill and ult works. But at least the core idea is viable. Skill is mainly of use for poison users, as ice users won’t make a difference (unless the accumulation increase is enough to proc a blast with only a skill). The ult buff will be good for everyone.

[woven ingot]

Kinda strange they made an ice one as ice doesn’t need anything atm. Maybe just for having one of each element, to look good and complete.
But it was sure it would underperform, they can’t buff ice more.

[fierce light]

Test Server Notes are out:https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1342483968033034351

Divine Thunder's Jade would have to be tested. Sounds promising though as what it needed was faster charge.

[fierce light]

Yup that's the only buff to Poison it looks like so I'm making an Ice build.

Unless, can you make a video of it with [Poison Root] equipped?

[amber terrace]

ehm, how can i do that with 19 lvl potential

[fierce light]

They limit your potential?

[quaint girder]

Fair. They were exploring ways how to add multiple weapons for characters. Looks like it's on the backburner for now

[fierce light]

Since they made Dragonslayer instant after an ability, it is almost equivalent to having a damaging ability. Moderation will still be good on her in particular.

[woven ingot]

I don’t know the attacks’ names, does that means zippin got the other spear legendary soul jade?

[spice canyon]

no

[fierce light]

Dragonslayer is the attack before Ne Zha's Might/Razor Swift (the spinny moves).

[analog aspen]

Do you think every hope for poison is lost now?

[fierce light]

I'll have to do some further testing as I don't know what the new Damage Coefficient will be with Evil Poison Lotus with [Poison Root] equipped. There's also the extra Toxin Accumulation on yourself that I have to test for that could end up making Poison more dangerous to use.

[analog aspen]

Is there a jade you would want to replace though? If misamsa drive or arcane thunder gets replced a lot of dmg is lost as wel

[fierce light]

Miasma Drive ends up being around a 14.4% DPS increase at max attributes. It would just need to be larger than that. So Evil Poison Lotus would have to increase Bloomblast damage by around 45% to be worth.

Which I severely doubt they did, even if they did, that would just put it on par with Miasma Drive, it would still be worse than Ice Lotus and maybe even Thunder Lotus.

[fickle linden]

ice it is then

[drifting lance]

🎉 | TenKey leveled up!

[fickle linden]

[hearty rivet]

I can't read the small text what do these souljades do? 👀

[fierce light]

It would, however, be the best build for mobbing, assuming you don't die from Corruption.

[fickle linden]

this is just test server right? they could still change stuff before it hits live servers

atleast little?

[hearty rivet]

you can freeze with the rest of us instead of ODing yourself with purple lotuses! <3

[fierce light]

Will also have to see if it allows you to get an extra Infectious Touch off

[hearty rivet]

Thankyou!

[amber terrace]

yea, they just give up to 16

[fierce light]

Interesting.

[novel shell]

Solo speedrun 😄 easy peasy

[fierce light]

Going off that video you made, it just looks like a 22% increase in Bloomblast damage. Which isn't enough. But they have separate multipliers for it depending on the -Root node you have so I want to make sure.

[fierce light]

Oh wait

It makes Lotus Impact stack Toxified? 😯 That's actually decent for Toxin Blast then.

Still don't think it'll be enough.

[amber terrace]

i show video up to

i used that venomous lotus

[fierce light]

I thought it made your Blossom Blasts stack it

[amber terrace]

this

[fierce light]

Yeah you're not close enough for your Lotus Impacts to hit

[amber terrace]

yea, lotus impact will increase this bar

[fierce light]

Lotus Impact is from the little flowers spinning around you. You were just close enough for Pestilent Pool to take effect.

[amber terrace]

yea i tested go close mobs before that

[olive bay]

What are the best heroes to use moderation on (ice lotus)

[amber terrace]

Tessa

Yueshan

[fierce light]

Viper, Feria, Temulch (weakest), Tarka, Yueshan (strongest), Tessa & Matari.

[olive bay]

Thanks

[fierce light]

They gave Ziping Defuse • Solve 🙃

Just did a rough frame count of her Razor Swift in action, it looks like Ziping might end up being high tier.

[fickle linden]

i wonder if they ever add trio content to the game where having healer in your party is necessity

and if they would need to buff or rework healing somehow

[fierce light]

-# For reference, a full Earthshaker has 3965 Base DMG and takes 5.7s total.

[fierce light]

I doubt it, but Ziping is not looking like a bad pick. Will have to test how much she boosts accumulation and elemental by, but if it's good enough she'll be able to make Poison builds on her team competitive.

[hearty rivet]

with mod build she might be perma-buff her party?

[fierce light]

Yeah easily since it lasts 12s.

The weaker effect for teammates though will be hard to test for.

[granite marsh]

Is her skill like the multiplayer one? Throw on the floor and teammate picks it up?

[fierce light]

#👾┃showdown message
0:07

[fickle linden]

if nothing else atleast i'll be able to level up spear to 25 with ziping instead of valda 🙏

[fierce light]

Sucks cause I have 2 extreme skins for Valda, but can hardly use her

[fickle linden]

it's time for you to start your pvp arc, she is great there

[hearty rivet]

how I levelupped greatsword and later bow 😅

[dusk plover]

I mean she has no real lore to the actual story/story in showdown, she’s a cross over character. She just had the spear on her introduction video apparently. If you wanted a lore accurate pick for a support it would of been cyra.

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Os1k_Egyptian_ leveled up!

[fierce light]

I doubt they would give us a hero that new to the game

[quaint girder]

I mean lore accurate to the character design and initial introduction. Not the actual Showdown story (actually she may be tied into the Naraka lore legitimately now that Mobile has her working with Justina)

[quaint girder]

Neither does Yoto, but she got GS as her weapon which has her signature weapon

[dusk plover]

Yeah I’d say they only brought yoto to open the gate for them to add in other cross over characters before the main ones

[fierce light]

The fact that Valda is being powercrept by a Support is hilarious

[woven ingot]

Poor Valda ...

[fierce light]

I think they're looking to add lore important heroes during X.0 patches and crossovers/less important during X.5 patches.

[dusk plover]

Yeah they wouldn’t but I think she would be the best showdown support out of everyone

[turbid agate]

Ziping is a cross over?

[woven ingot]

But remember what they did with Matari, she was by far the worst Showdown character, they gave her some love and brought her in the top 3.

[dusk plover]

Yeah ziping and yoto

Why yoto only has select outfits and you can’t customize

[dusk plover]

I don’t think they can do that for valda unless they do another skill change for her

Or give her the whip sword when it comes out

Would honestly be cool if they gave it to Justina when it comes out but I doubt that

[turbid agate]

I knew about Yoto, but where is Ziping from?

[granite marsh]

Chinese Ghost Story

[turbid agate]

Oh lol. I always thought she was an original character.

[fickle linden]

hmm, have they ever changed weapons on showdown characters after new weapons have come out in the past?

[fierce light]

Yes, but only once (Tarka).

[fickle linden]

ooh cool, which weapon tarka had before dualblades?

[hidden creek]

there was a time when you could drop your weapons and ur teammate could pick it up and use it lmaooo

[fickle linden]

that sounds awesome

[quaint girder]

It's because they don't need to develop a Showdown cultivation story for crossovers and they can just make them echo fighters of original cast (using same weapons). I think it's mostly a low stakes data test for players.

Also I think that Ziping and Yoto come free along with Tianhai, Viper, and Feria

So they're getting the entire F2P starting pool in there so vets can play with their newbie frens

Multiple goals hit at once

[astral widget]

okay so how u rate ziping in tier list?

[quaint girder]

Only if her abilities actually staggered bosses a lot of things don't.

[astral widget]

And im looking for someone to play all doom stars and enigma EU SERVER

[quaint girder]

Yes from the Chinese MMO "A Chinese Ghost Story"

[turbid agate]

Is there more clips of her showdown gameplay? @fierce light

[quaint girder]

Honestly just give her Razor Swift and drop Heartstopper Kick. Then make it so her counter's counterstrike attack staggers bosses.

Should make her a lot more usable

[steep patio]

I need thunder lotus and ice lotus potential

[quaint girder]

Justina will be a Longsword user

Longsword/Bow

[tacit nest]

Check pinned

[twin ledge]

@tacit nest I lied after seeing clip of ziping she actually might be really good

[tacit nest]

They released clips already?

Where at?

[twin ledge]

Check private message

[fierce light]

Tarka used to have Greatsword.

[fierce light]

They gave her a buffed up Razor Swift with anti-interruption from her skill haha. Pretty good.

I wonder if the buffs expire when she loses the shield early.

[lavish magnet]

Anyone else for Doom or enigma domain EU ?

Or other server ?

Need 2 for team

[fierce light]

She looks to be between Matari-Yueshan tier and Tessa-Tarka tier.

[bronze wharf]

[fierce light]

Kinda wish you couldn't be staggered out of your Counterstrike.

Big issue with Thunder build

[analog plume]

Wait can somebody who has been in the test server show me the ziping yin showcase I want to learn and experience what I have to do

[astral widget]

so shes good ;D

[fierce light]

Mostly on BiliBili

[turbid agate]

No clue what that is lol. But ty.

[fierce light]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1GhAZeUE93/?vd_source=e436bcf4333345077b464ebf0fc7cf19
-# Recommended to use Microsoft Edge Translation and turn on Subtitles.

[hidden creek]

oh they gave her the horizontal spear spin

or they just changed that move for spear in general?

[fierce light]

Really seems weird they put the potential level so low in the test server, so you can't really test the new changes since Lotuses act differently without a -Root potential.

[fierce light]

Hopefully in general, but it looks like it's for her atm

Not only is it AoE, but hits nearly 3 times harder than Ne Zha's Might.

[lavish magnet]

Enigma domain or doom fast runs ? Or both better 😁?

Need some help team ..

[hidden creek]

damn

it's the go to move to accumulate elements then?

if so ziping will benefits from mod builds

[woven ingot]

Maybe it will make me like spear.

[hidden creek]

nah lol, zip could skip the whole charging animation and went straight for dragonslayer after using an ability

that's what make it worth it

as for valda lol nope

[fierce light]

Yes she'll be viable with mod. Pretty much use it when elemental burst comes off cooldown like Matari.

[woven ingot]

For Valda no hope before some time. But if Zippin is having good spear moves that will be enough for me.

[hidden creek]

i predicted that her abilities will gives her teammate some kind of damage boost aside from healing them

that's the only thing they could go for to make her viable in this heavy damages meta

[woven ingot]

But you failed to predict that energy drink after a coffee wasn't good! 😛

[hidden creek]

tbh i kinda knew it from the start but i was like ''eh how bad could it be''

[woven ingot]

Now you have the answer to that, don't you?

[hidden creek]

💀

https://tenor.com/view/skull-gif-11172962845892656663

[woven ingot]

did you tried again?

[hidden creek]

literally me after

[woven ingot]

Sounds fun in a way!

[hidden creek]

dead tired but at the same time energized af

[fierce light]

Now they need to just go back and buff Valda's ability and add some way to animation cancel Temulch's ability

[modern mirage]

any tip for feeria shen ?

[fierce light]

• Only use her Ultimate for the Ghost Zones in Nirriti's Ruins.
• Vertical 1st Charge -> Aegis-Break is her optimal rotation, when you have Aegis-Break Rage.

• Spam Vertical 1st Charge when you don't have Aegis-Break Rage (potential tree), like Nirriti's Ruins for example.
• • Thunder Blessing I makes it a viable option again.

• Don't recommend using her without a Moderation build due to her relatively low weapon DPS.
• Vertical 1st Charge + Skill is enough to proc Ice Blast and Vertical 1st Charge + Skill + Arcane Thunder is enough to proc Poison Blast quickly.

[modern mirage]

tysm!!

and if i dont bother too much some matrari tips ?

[fierce light]

• Dancing Leaves spam while her self-buff from her Skill is active.
• Dreadful Wail when her Skill is down.

[dusk plover]

Yeah I’m just saying that because it’s going to be the counter/cross weapon with the long sword. It’d just be cool to have it in showdown as well as funny lore wise with Justina/viper/matron

[timid igloo]

P8 feels like an impossible dps check I can't

[modern mirage]

and when the boss is down ?

[fierce light]

Gotta make sure you have a meta build that far in

[fierce light]

Same thing.

[timid igloo]

in the end it's back to shard farming for me then 😭 only got 2 mods on ice lotus

still it feels like without apsolutely max stats it's just not doable

[woven ingot]

P8 has a quite short timer. Add to that the fact both phases bosses can run a bit everywhere and make you lose a lot of time on some runs.
First fight since long I saw the timeout twice before getting a kill. That usually doesn't happen, I die or boss dies, but no time out.

[fierce light]

Having full Moderation is arguably more important than having max stats

[dusk plover]

Definitely doable if you have max moderation and using a character that benefits from it with lotus build. Just need to be max potential and sense level as well

Unless all your ice/poison blast is under 200%

[timid igloo]

gotcha, also before I forget, what's the window between burst procs??

[dusk plover]

Depends on who you’re playing

[fierce light]

If you're using Ice build with Frozen Blast, it's 4 seconds.
Otherwise, it's 6 seconds.

[drifting lance]

🎉 | DarK Zer0 [NA] leveled up!

[timid igloo]

I've been playing thunderscorch till now, so I'll farm out a 4 mod lotus in due time

[timid igloo]

cheers, thanks!

[steep patio]

Someone give me showdown spoilers

[dusk plover]

Ohhhh you can clear it then it’s just a matter of luck with blues really and timing the procs

[steep patio]

Are there even new jades next week?

[dusk plover]

It’s based on time not element accumulation? Or is there just a limit to how quick it can proc

[fierce light]

3 new jades, 1 will be a new core for Divine Thunder Lotus, 1 is questionable for Poison Lotus and the other is just plain bad.

[woven ingot]

There's a cooldown after activating it. That's the numbers Dark wrote.

[timid igloo]

I feel like I'd need to pull out a copper skin (I think thats the name) and I just don't think I'm good enough to further tank the already paper thin health bar of the build so I've switched for a change of pace and to have an excuse to run Tessa

[woven ingot]

The accumulation time before a proc depends on what you're playing, but roughtly it's 1 skill plus one charged attack, so 2-3 seconds.

[fierce light]

6s cooldown on Elemental Bursts by default.

• Frozen Blast brings it down to 4s.

Other than that it's just reaching the Elemental Threshold on an enemy.

[dusk plover]

Okay so similar to Valkyrie Elysium where after you’ve done an element stagger there’s a cooldown before you can start to build the stagger back up

[dusk plover]

Oh yeah you’ll definitely need to run copper ward. You can get a sub 3 with it if you’re lucky

[woven ingot]

Yep, that's exactly it.

[dusk plover]

Makes a lot of sense now on some of my runs lol

[woven ingot]

For every element you'll have an icon on the boss HP bar when you proc an elemental blast. When that icon goes off, you know you can use your skill again, do one charged and you'll proc again (I'm oversimplifying a bit with the combo needed, depends on your hero/build).

[turbid agate]

What's the max moderation you can have or go for? I have 75% mod rn.

[plain spire]

100%

[woven ingot]

75% is "playable", you'll have a little downtime with your skill (depending which hero you play, Viper with her shorter skill cooldown is nearly fine at 75%). 100% is both the max and what you want to be free with your playstyle.

[steep patio]

What’s the bad one

[timid stirrup]

Frostbound lotus evil

[turbid agate]

Cool, ty. I have 3 mod attributes. So I'm assuming 100% is 4. Im pretty sure I've seen more than 4 mods on peoples builds. I'm assuming the extras don't do anything and they're just a waste of a stat?

[plain spire]

i wonder if that frostbound a good jade to replace sub zero or what jade should it replace from the current ice lotus set

[plain spire]

100% is max having more than 100% renders the attribute useless so it's better for it to be either windfall or normal attribute

[woven ingot]

More than 4 is a waste yes. Be sure to check that your MOD attribute are at 25%, if not level them to reach that number.

[turbid agate]

Ahh okay ty both. I thought it went up to 200% or something lol. I've seen people that have like 2 mods on each jade lol

[hidden creek]

200% mod make you cast your skill twice with each use
make it happen 24e

[woven ingot]

ahah Tabbie. Would be fun tho!

[hidden creek]

but also your skill will fly to random direction

[woven ingot]

You have weird ideas, you're aware of it right?

[hidden creek]

wdym weird, my ideas are AWESOME

oh wait

[woven ingot]

Oh wait, yes.

[hidden creek]

so what's the new skill thingy they mentioned

we got new skill for each character right

[woven ingot]

New skill for each character? That sounds a bit much.

[hidden creek]

addition skill on top of existed skills*

[woven ingot]

Didn't saw anything about that in the chat. But I may have missed something.
Only saw that Yippin had a special effect, the charged attack after her skill being free of charge. Pun intended. Just like in PvP she got a free dodge after her skill.

[fierce light]

That's not coming till next season

[hidden creek]

sad

[lyric roost]

xd

[fierce light]

Frostbound Lotus.
-# Positive

• Would be close to a 2.5% DPS increase at max build.
  -# Negative
• Inactive while you have no Lotus.
• Requires you to be up close to make use of (iffy for quick mobbing).

Ice Lotus is pretty much complete already, but if you have a max one and want a slight boost, you could probably go for it.

[twin ledge]

Don’t think anything will replace the current ice jades anyways for awhile

[hidden creek]

i hate it

[fierce light]

Crazy that Divine Thunder will still have a free slot but other builds will be full

[hidden creek]

i want to poison my enemies

watch them dies slowly in agony

MAKE POISON TOP BUILD 24E

MAKE IT HAPPENS

[woven ingot]

You can play poison if you like the concept. It's not that far behind. Dark is playing that since start, and you too, aren't you?

[hidden creek]

yes but

i want

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-more-power-power-power-up-spongebob-squarepants-gif-22777710

[woven ingot]

Don't we all?

[analog plume]

Love this emote

[timid stirrup]

i would love more poison power

[fierce light]

Now that I have it max, I can feel how much it lacks compared to Ice rn

It would be cool if they made it have a different system though. Like have a 2s cooldown, with 1/3rd the Elemental Threshold but the damage occurs overtime or something.

[woven ingot]

Don't go adding fuel to Tabbie's fire! 😂

[hidden creek]

or just nerf the ice build and/or characters that's good with it

[woven ingot]

Rude.

[hidden creek]

[fierce light]

2s cooldown on abilities probably would be busted tho

Just feels weird having it do a big burst for Poison. Probably the biggest burst in the game rn

[quaint girder]

Ah man, I hope that armory comes soon and it offshores all the wielding Souljades

I have been really trying to keep Assassin's Lunge for the style points

[willow frost]

is it worth using tickets for XP bonuses on showdown ever?

[shrewd basin]

Depends if you have your character leveled already or have max potential points

[fierce light]

How's it feel with the Nether step change?

[tacit nest]

whats that mean?

[quaint girder]

Pretty good actually

The issue is that the whole Matari buff made everything great so she has so many tools, but you have to choose two to actually be competitive

It would be nice if I could weave between all the different attack variants

[willow frost]

I meant the treasure bonus card vouchers, to be specific

[shrewd basin]

Oh just depends on how fast you want to complete the BP

[willow frost]

Well, is it fine to use it on Showdown or is Survival better?

[shrewd basin]

Unsure

[hearty rivet]

Look at the bright side, with poison you can't just awkwardly freeze the moment Korven unleashes one of her 15 hit combos on you 🙃

[fierce light]

Toxin Blast is the biggest burst of damage we have right now. The one from getting 6 stacks. Scorching does more at Lv. 11+, but it's more of a DoT.

[fierce light]

Yeah I'm glad the flying meta is back. Probably the main reason I want to get an ice build going so I can stay perma-flying.

[timid stirrup]

showdown is ok as its mostly clear stage or kill x enemies or counter once

[woeful monolith]

Does Tianhai work with ICe build

can he counter in his ultimate?

[twin ledge]

Yea to both

[spice canyon]

I thought the new ice jade could change sub zero seal

[hidden creek]

wonder if the new thunderous lotus paired with lotus counter will deal high enough dmg for a build that ditched ghastbloom to be viable

thunderpull-counter-proof, lotus counter, mighty lotus counter and thunderous lotus

mod wind divine thunder dmg attk

also on poison build i wonder if it's really that good when you replace arcane thunder with new venomous lotus jade

[spice canyon]

The excess lotus will be a waste without ghastbloom

[hidden creek]

doesn't matters if the damages from the spinning lotuses could make up for it

[spice canyon]

I see

[hidden creek]

new thunderous lotus increase the lotus spinning speed
then lotus counter double this speed
then we got Epiphany potential node that icrease lotus impact dmg by 40%
thunderous lotus makes spinning lotuses also increase thundershock bar on top of thunderpull's effect, so we gonna parry alot, maintaining the spinning lotus speed increase and at the same time deals alot of divine thunder dmg

now the question is will this dmg be enough

or it's better to ditch thunderpull and rely on thunderous lotus alone to build thundershock bar

then we got slot for ghastbloom

or this + thunderous lotus

yeah probably this

thundershock bar will be build up by both thunderpull and thunderous lotus
result in alot of parries, result in alot of divine thunder dmg and alot of lotus explosion

[signal kite]

https://tenor.com/view/yunayu-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-crayon-gif-7545757190565944513

[hidden creek]

doubt the dmg is better than ilm tho

[bronze wharf]

No Skill All Aim , Let's go

[fierce light]

While it could, it'll make you have to play ice a bit differently as you'd have to make sure you hug enemies whenever you could to keep Tundra Might active. Otherwise, you'll have worse accumulation.

[analog aspen]

@fierce light what hero do you think is best to use with a max poison build for yama's abyss?

[fierce light]

The issue with Lotus Counter is that you have to land a Counterstrike for it to activate. So not only will you have to not be interrupted during your Thunder Counter, but somehow pull that off as well. Bloom Blasts generally hit 4x harder than Lotus Impacts as well at base, but let's assume Thunderous Lotus increases their speed by 1.5x. That'll be 3x speed total, so 1 tick per 0.333s. 1/4 times 1.4 = 7/20. So you'd need ~12 ticks to make up for the lack in Ghastbloom, which will take roughly 4s. So it does have potential to be strong.

[fierce light]

Matari, Tessa, Feria, or Tarka

[analog aspen]

Ok thanks, Matari is a bit difficult to pull off but seems very strong imo. Feria does not really convince me aa her ultimate feels useless

I've mainly played wuchen so far as he is the easiest to play. But with paragon 8 I'm running into time issues

[fierce light]

Yeah you don't use Feria's Ultimate, mainly her strong skill. Hardest hitting in the game at the moment.

[lavish mango]

any Nirriti Ruins? Night Scream (EU)

[stoic heron]

@fierce light What makes Matari so strong this current patch? I've heard people talk about it, but never really got an understanding why or what they buffed really

[round glacier]

Feria ultimate great to no die lol

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Tru11 [EU] leveled up!

[fierce light]

• Her ability now deals damage inside and outside of her Ultimate.
  -# Hits about as hard as Viper's ability.
• For 6s after using her Skill, her Aegis-Break and Defuse Counterattack have their base damage multiplier increased by 450%.
  -# Is now her highest DPS option, especially with Aegis-Break Rage (potential).
• • Also buffs her elemental accumulation and damage slightly for 6s.
• Dreadful Wail had it's base damage increased significantly.
  -# No longer a meme to use as it's her 2nd strongest DPS option.
• Netherstep was incorporated into her base kit.
  -# Can do consecutive Dagger Dashes and Air Dashes.

[river stratus]

dmg to boss on matari worth with ice?

[hearty rivet]

you want attack + ice blast damage first but probably worth as a 3rd stat if you don't want defuse recovery or don't have double rares on the souljade yet.

[fierce light]

For bossing, yes

Worth more than Attack to an extent, but I'd only recommend it for Matari or Yueshan since their personal dps is so high

[subtle bramble]

zippy test server vids are out https://v.douyin.com/iPKWDFbA/

she has razor swift yay

looks fun

[fierce light]

Yeah with a significantly higher multiplier, unless they nerfed it

[cyan grove]

Anyone up to farm enigma? I'm EU

[thorn narwhal]

@polar light can you share pov if you have

[polar light]

i didn't capture the game unfortunately

[round glacier]

Zippy looks fun

[woven ingot]

Bad Toxic, bad!!

[analog aspen]

Does anyone have footage of paragon 8?

I can almost do the first phase hitless but the secont phase keeps f*cking me up

[fierce light]

Feels like they turned up her attack rate by quite a bit

[bronze wharf]

[hearty rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-age-crash-i-believe-i-can-fly-flying-fly-gif-23945296

[woven ingot]

That was an interesting maneuver!

[bronze wharf]

[signal kite]

Bro has a PhD on getting screwed up

[fierce light]

I love how Matari can chase bosses that fly up.

[hidden creek]

ez mech skip

[river stratus]

holding F the buff is the same?

[fierce light]

Hold it to travel further and do slightly more damage.

[dusk plover]

This what I mean. Old heros assemble when it first came out was so much better, especially when you could choice your level and the higher/harder the better the rewards. Over 6min left with bad rewards and not even playing optimal heros (had no viper or Tessa)

[fierce light]

Okay so the numbers are out, Venomous Lotus increases the damage multiplier of Blossom Blast (Poison Root) to 140% of the original.

This makes it the better option when fighting multiple enemies, however, against single targets it loses out against Miasma Drive.

TL-DR:
Against multi-targets

• Venomous Lotus > Miasma Drive
  Against single-targets
• Miasma Drive > Venomous Lotus

[analog aspen]

Poison feels already very good vs group of enemies atm

I don't think a buff in that direction is needed

That kinda makes the new jades useless in my book

[fickle linden]

ill wait week or two but seems like im gonna swap to ice lotus

swap ghastbloom to ice and recast poison blast to ice blast

but keep rest of my poison build