👾┃showdown

[twin ledge]

Can get it to that form by the blessing

But will take like 2 years lol

[woeful bay]

I rly don't get Naraka somtimes

[fierce light]

Compact Drop Chart

[twin ledge]

U can buy those from the blessing 15 a month from there

[woeful bay]

which blessing?

[twin ledge]

Blazing I think it’s called

[woeful bay]

oh yeah

[hidden creek]

yeah, which gonna take 58 months which is almost 5 years

😂

[twin ledge]

I know but I was going off for how long it will take me lol

[woven ingot]

Nearly there!

[twin ledge]

Ima end up buying the rest tho

Just getting that price down a little bit first

[hidden creek]

on 57th week naraka announced closure

[twin ledge]

Cause that’s overpriced

[woven ingot]

If you want overpriced, check for the two extrem hairstyles.

Around 300-500 euros/dollars according to your luck on Steam Market for the second currency needed.

[hidden creek]

naraka veryexpensivepixels-point

naraka kidneypointt

[woven ingot]

ahah fitting

Tessa one is absolutely awesome. Which makes it more irritating that it's that expensive.

[fierce light]

Good drop

[hearty rivet]

Huh this level of yama was kinda awkward. Somehow always managed to stand on ice and never got to use ulti 💀

[bold ice]

think ive been blessed

[fierce light]

It drains even after you step off iirc

[dusk plover]

I’d say that’s more unlucky than blessed. Getting blessed would be her throwing multiple blues back to back lol

Like I got somewhat lucky with that and killed first form in about 20 seconds then unlucky second form because it took me a little over a minute on second form (including the animation moves time drains)

Idk why it takes like 5 seconds to spawn second form

[tacit nest]

how does one import music into the instruments on the penglai

[plain spire]

Feels like there are less players playing showdown

[twin ledge]

Because the devs are doing the opposite of what needs to be done for showdown

So it’s not that fun anymore

[tacit nest]

what would need to be done

thats major?

i just wanna see what they need to fix

[lapis sundial]

I have a dumb question about the guaranteed choose an attribute

If you choose to replace one of the rares will it give an option to select a new rare? I'm guessing nope because why would it be that easy

😂

[hearty rivet]

No, you can select only nonrares from the same list but it'll be near-max or max quality (I think 80% or higher?)

[lapis sundial]

I figured lol. Ty for the quick reply tho

[sly kestrel]

anyone wanna do Doom mode ?

[tacit nest]

So I can just recast the windfall until I get mod right?

[twin ledge]

Yea

[tacit nest]

w

[twin ledge]

Wait always be a rare tho

[tacit nest]

thanks dude

[tacit nest]

huh?

[twin ledge]

Won’t always I meant

Auto correct is actually tweaking today

[tacit nest]

itll eventually turn into mod tho correct?

[twin ledge]

Yea but it’s random

[wind light]

dont waste on changing rare

recast another souljade

[tacit nest]

??

[wind light]

you want to chang windfall to another rare attributes right ?

[tacit nest]

to mod yes

[wind light]

its random, you better recast another souljade to get a rare attribute

[tacit nest]

isnt it random for every attribute

[plain spire]

if you don't like the windfall it's better to recast it to max normal attri and recast lowest value attri to rare.

[wind light]

or recast trash souljade then discard to get flux jade

use that flux jade on your windfall jade

[tacit nest]

dont i gotta get the windfall to 50% first

[plain spire]

no need since recasting rare to max normal is random

[tacit nest]

so what if it gives me trash max attributes

like ranged or some shit

[plain spire]

then at 60 recast you turn that trash max normal into max norma to your choice

[tacit nest]

word

is this the fastest method or wha

[plain spire]

It's the logical method to max your souljade (imo fastest method to perfect your souljade)

[tacit nest]

so the rare will auto turn into maxed

or is that random too

the windfall

[plain spire]

This ghastbloom is trash 0 max normal attribute but perfected it through that method

check the pinned for normal max attributes list

[tacit nest]

so if i recasted normal jade

never getting a max unless the attri is max itself

but with rare

its random

[plain spire]

yes

Im gonna recast this moderation to max normal attribute and then try to recast rare to the non max attribute.

[tacit nest]

oooooooooo

okkk

i understand now

i wish i had known these methods before lmfao

wasted so many crystals

[plain spire]

imo this method lessen the fragment spent to perfect a souljade

[tacit nest]

but thats why i was asking

your rare is maxed

so ofc yours will produce maxed attributes

mine isnt

its 30%

[plain spire]

Doesn't matter if rare is max or not since recasting rare>normal is random

[tacit nest]

fuck

shi wack

but aye

if this the best way then ill do it

[flat pier]

i am not zero-chan, but do enigma domain, you should be able to clear it easily

yeah. use golden keys...

it drops a lot of souljades

np!!

[round glacier]

Niriti normal is better if your sense level is low

Niriti does not use sense so you should be able to clear normal

[wraith field]

yo

[bold ice]

well yeah but i dont really care about time for now

[ionic wren]

Anyone wana run topaz enigma domain need to get my sense level up as carnt run the event as its finished

[plain spire]

Just play hard nitiri for better drop or normal nitiri but not so good drop

[compact cairn]

does hard just give you more drops or higher sense level drops?

[plain spire]

Hard drop percentage is te same as nightscream/legend and max sense drop same as enigma

[ionic wren]

Sweet I play hard nirriti then

[plain spire]

If your goal is just to level your souljade to max there's a trick in Enigma topaz if you're still at 150% drop rate just kill 3 boss and leave>repeat. You get decent rare with less fatigue consume.

[ionic wren]

Yh I am cause my sense level only 895

[plain spire]

895 better just go nitiri then

[compact cairn]

im 1067 trying to get to 1100 :D

[ionic wren]

Anyone wana run nirritis hard carnt find a team

I’m on eu

[bright skiff]

Anyone wanna help

[timid stirrup]

im at work unfortunately

[bright skiff]

Ok ✅

[timid stirrup]

Hard should b fairly easy solo or duo. Anima selection plays a key role

Unless ur new Showdown players n getting the hang of the mode and stuff

[fierce light]

Yeah you got the right build, Enigma Domain should level you a bit fast

[ionic wren]

U still on

[fickle linden]

i got 6 windfalls and 3 moderation on my plm atm, 320% poison blast dmg etc.

should i recast one of my windfalls to mod or recast some random jades and deconstruct them to 2 jade shards?

i just want 1 mod more, idc about more windfalls

or just recast values higher

[hearty rivet]

I'd say the latter, hold onto your precious windfalls 👀 And iirc for bossing 75% mod is not bad?

[timid stirrup]

the problem is if u recast a wf into mod and u later use a flux jade/shards and get mod now u have an extra mod

[fierce light]

Yeah right now you're in an ideal spot cause 2/3 rares will be beneficial to you

That plus 75% often lines up the skill cooldown with Poison Blast cooldown.

[bright skiff]

Yes

[timid stirrup]

i was hoping to not fall into this same issue while building my ilm but i have started with 2x wf already so im not sure i can get mod on the jades i want

[bright skiff]

I’m new to the game
Started not less than a month now

[timid stirrup]

that would explain not being used to nirriti runs. and ur prolly getting all the animas that have books to complete collections

[bright skiff]

I’m done with the hard.. I’m at the nightscream

[timid stirrup]

yea but if ur just spamming hard for sense level u can do nightscream later

[bright skiff]

Sense level
I don’t know what it is 😂

[timid stirrup]

aside from certain jades dropping in ns and season quests for nightscream u can just farm hard

[timid stirrup]

if u go to preparation u will see a number under each hero. that number is their sense level. sense level can be increased by enhancing souljades

[bright skiff]

Ok I get it

[bright skiff]

Ooh I thought that was soul jade

[timid stirrup]

it is and it isnt. the jades combined avg level will b the number under the hero

[steep patio]

Enigma is good for jades, if you want to maximize your luck n jades to enigma peak w 3 gold keys

Nirrita is for quench crystals

[timid stirrup]

@fierce light noticed a glitch on the site for Tessa Hero description

[fierce light]

Ah, I gotta find where I got those images for the weapons.

[timid stirrup]

here is a site that a number of us use for information https://dark-zer0.github.io/Showdown/index.html

[bright skiff]

Thanks

[timid stirrup]

also keep in mind the more u farm nirriti ur stats for nirriti will b upgraded. u can find all that info in ur fire forge

i'd show u an example but im still at work for another 2hrs

[woven ingot]

6 wf. Noted. This evening you put some ice on your gpu and you carry me through the speedrun!

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Migosha leveled up!

[timid stirrup]

Lol. He did say he's thinking of removing a wf. Not that it will effect his ability to carry u

[fickle linden]

i have no ability to carry anyone, migosha is living in la la land 🤣

[fickle linden]

thank god it shouldn't be so hard for my fps in yama's

the holoroth/speedrun arena is extra bad i think

[placid prairie]

hello guys, maybe somebody knows where i can find face imports?

[fierce light]

?

[weary estuary]

hello, im a new player. why do i feel like its ridiculously hard to land parrys here? i dont think im bad player just new, but it even the bots can god parry?

is there some trick to parrying faster than pressing q?

[weary estuary]

my rection time is 261 ms, not the best but i dont think its terrible

my parries arent going off

[fierce light]

What's your ping? Also are you playing Solo or Trios? All of that changes the time you have to parry.

[weary estuary]

solo

nvm maybe im just bad, i need to make a friend to practice with

ive only been playing a couple days so i need time, im trying to climb to gold to get away from the bots

trios alot more fun but the queues are way longer and i wanna get to gold

[hidden creek]

lol

next hero is ziping

[fierce light]

Nice, another healer finally

Well still an issue with there being a Moderation meta.

[subtle bramble]

confirmed or just theories?

[hidden creek]

confirmed

[subtle bramble]

no akos i sleep

oh i saw something on douyin that says zip will join february and justina in june

they adding all the gals

[quaint girder]

Where my Akos at

Bro has been planned then shelved for years

Zip will have Spear, Justina will have Longsword

Oh no

[subtle bramble]

exactlyy poor akos

[quaint girder]

Please don't give Justina or Zippy Heng

That's Shayol, Kylin, and Lyam's signature

[subtle bramble]

when they add them in 2035

[quaint girder]

Just bring us Akos with Fistblades and Shayol with Heng

They have literally been with Yueshan and Feria in the Hero Cultivation story

[subtle bramble]

yeah they are just ignoring the lore since adding yoto

[quaint girder]

Boom every melee has been added

[quaint girder]

I feel like it's okay because at least Tessa and Wuchen started getting featured in the cinematics

[subtle bramble]

i could sense zip or kylin would be next since they are doing collab heros, but was hoping more for kylin

[subtle bramble]

truee tessa gets a pass

[quaint girder]

Zippy is fine as long as they give her signature Spear

[fierce light]

Spear on Ziping is unfortunate. Would have to see how strong her abilities are to see if it makes up for it

[quaint girder]

They'd have to rework Spear's everything lol

Valda feels pretty clunky when you get into the spinny animation

Or increase her coefficients significantly to make up for the awkward clunky timing

[subtle bramble]

and then they should do the same for valda as an apology 😭

[timid stirrup]

where did u find the news about ziping being next hero?

[hearty rivet]

Maybe with Ziping spear rework will arrive too for sure. I mean they fixed Matari, everything is possible, everything \o.o/

[quaint girder]

Some rumors on Douyin

[fierce light]

Not sure why they went with the dragonslayer kick instead of the aoe nezha's might. That would fix her mobbing issue. They could also add the rage generation from Yueshan to her ability so she can use her Ultimate more often.

[quaint girder]

Oooooo

I'm so hype

But also a little nervous

I hope they combine V1 and V2 and F1 and F2

I love F3's ignore stagger

[hidden creek]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV13yf5YjEgQ/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click&vd_source=a61e92f04879cab736507d0466f5d380

not a rumor

lol i just ran out of crystal for the first time

[heavy gulch]

how its possible? i have 2k of crystals and i need to drop 2x more jade shards to use all of them

[woven ingot]

How do you do that?

[hidden creek]

idk lol

prolly got lucky with recent peak runs

[woven ingot]

Would need a lot of luck to get rid of those 1200 crystals or something

[hidden creek]

420 fatigue and i got 250 fragments i think

[woven ingot]

Waow?!

I'd like to get that kind of numbers. I'm more leaning toward removing a zero and be at 25 fragments 😂

[hidden creek]

but i'm running out of gold keys so

soon i'll be overflowed with crystal again

[woven ingot]

I'm giving you my 100+ and you give me half of the shards you win?

[hidden creek]

[fierce light]

How so?

Thunder does have the advantage of not relying on potential at least. But it falls off quickly with it

Wtf

We don't have enough slots for it

Honestly they should combine all the ranged Souljades too. Just unnecessary clutter to have 7+ ranged jades for one element

[woven ingot]

Moreover when no one play any of those 30+ ranged.

[fierce light]

I guess it'll give us more flexibility

[fierce light]

Will have to see, going to be interesting if they do this before the new season

[heavy gulch]

at enigmas is better drops?

more jade shards?

cuz i dont feel any difference

[fierce light]

June is the end of the season I'm guessing

Haven't done the math

[woven ingot]

Tabbiieeee here are the keys, gimme my shards!

[tacit nest]

does it say what their buffing poison with?

or no?

[timid stirrup]

poison burst multiplier increase and toxic blast multiplier increase!!!!! I wish lol

would b funny

[tacit nest]

i thought you were serious till said wish

i was like YESSSSS

then

fuck

[fickle linden]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-prier-pray-praying-praying-hands-gif-12313547787077344754

[tacit nest]

I was told if I wanted to get rid of wf

To roll it into max attr

This isn’t max but would I be able to do this one

[woven ingot]

Tell me you were drunk when you took the picture.

[tacit nest]

And get that 1 %

Nah

I’m fine lol

Would this one be ok lol?

[timid stirrup]

its 90%

its close enuf

[woven ingot]

1% is close enough to max imo. Trying to recast for a perfect would be a gamble that could turn against you.

[tacit nest]

Accidentally hit recast again

Lmfao

Fml

[woven ingot]

Facepalm

[tacit nest]

Guess I’m playing some more mirror

[timid stirrup]

welp ur gonna get max eventually

[tacit nest]

Nirriti

[tacit nest]

Was that close enough tho?

[timid stirrup]

it was 90%

and u couldve took it

[tacit nest]

Getting tha last one percent shouldn’t be tha bad

[tacit nest]

ACCIDENT LMFAO

I misclicked

[timid stirrup]

welp now its gonna b a max stat

u did it on purpose for the max stat...... >.>

[tacit nest]

Pray you right gang

🤞🏼😖

[timid stirrup]

trus me fam

if u hit pity b4 getting max stat... dont use it

[tacit nest]

Pity?

[timid stirrup]

check ur other jades in the build for a stat that is high % or max that is wrong and change it

60 casts = pity = u can choose what attribute to change it to

say u have a 90% attribute on a different jade but its defuse and u want atk or inc boss dmg u change defuse to atk/inc boss dmg

then go back to changing wf for max stat

pity should always b used on a jade that has high % and get correct/wanted attribute

stop at 1 recast until pity and check ur other jades

[tacit nest]

This is my build

Tryna change the noxious

So use the pity on attri that’s maxed?

[spice canyon]

better find 100% value when you are recasting from rare attribute
90% sure is close but it's so far, what I'm saying is recasting/increasing value from 90% to 100% is harder than getting rare attribute

[timid stirrup]

U can use pity on Inc dmg to boss on ghastbloom for attack

Most of ur attributes r under 75%

Or u can try pity on the wf and see if it gives a max

[hidden creek]

MY GOD

9 rares but the stats are so low lol

[timid stirrup]

yea its a painful sight

[woven ingot]

ahah Fantome is a special case 😂

[timid stirrup]

im gonna say fantome did all that b4 he started looking here and learning what to do

i hope thats the case

[woven ingot]

I'll use my joker, or my 50/50 on that question!

[hidden creek]

nah i think he was impatient

should've waited for a jade with good base stats to start recasting

but he just poured all of his resouces into the jades he got

couldn't wait to try out the build

[fierce light]

I just used the first jades I got, kinda wish they did the Suffer No Demon earlier, but guess they wanted people to farm Manticore first.

Painful

[hidden creek]

i mean yeah you could recast them for right attributes and 1 rare so you get a working build

but to imbue them with flux?

[tacit nest]

This is what I did

[hidden creek]

that's just...

[tacit nest]

I wasn’t nearly good enough to keep trying for better jades

I had too

But tabbie right too

I was most def impatient

[fierce light]

This my first time coming close to maxing a build and I thought they were going to add that Recast Pity, but sadly they didn't.

[hidden creek]

damn

[woven ingot]

I get the point. It's easy to wait for great base Jades when you already got a good set to play.
When you got nothing, your first set you'll be more leniant

[tacit nest]

Me fr

[woven ingot]

You need something to start to farm.

[tacit nest]

^

I can still get high value attributes tho

Right?

[woven ingot]

Yep.

[hidden creek]

yes but a set of jades with 1 rare on each jade is more than enough to farm literally anything

aside from peak

or even peak

[tacit nest]

Nah even in peak I’m clapping them bosses

I just want my shi max

Everything

[hidden creek]

that's the thing

if you want your sht max you should be more patient

[woven ingot]

Yeah that part was impatience :p

[tacit nest]

Yeah

That’s on me

[hidden creek]

doing this only hurts your progress

but well

wish you get lucky on value recast ig

[tacit nest]

I just didn’t know anything about recast or nun till now

[fickle linden]

season is long

everyone will get everything maxed

[hidden creek]

looks like new contents coming though

we get mid season update

even multiple of them maybe

[fickle linden]

would be nice

[fierce light]

Meta Poison set might change if they're adding more Souljades for it

But we only have 1 free slot, so not sure how that's going to work.

[hidden creek]

the guy who ''leaked'' the upcoming contents didn't link the source so honestly idk lol

might not even be true at all

[fickle linden]

i have moderation in miasma drive

[fierce light]

Oh it's a leak again

I'm not going to trust it after that Recast Pity fiasco then

[hidden creek]

yep

though it does make sense

6 months w/o new contents is stupid and poison is indeed underperforming

but eh

[fierce light]

Thunder needs the buff the most

[hidden creek]

lmao i didn't even realize thunder still exist

[fierce light]

But yeah Poison felt pretty good in Paragon 3 with that +20% extra accumulation.

[timid stirrup]

i got lucky my poison jades from last season were already nearly maxed. so i only needed to do ghastbloom n toxified lotus

[hidden creek]

wish there is a lightningbolt focused build

[fierce light]

They tried with the potential, but made it so underwhelming.

All it needed was an attribute to scale from like elements do or burn does with Health.

[fickle linden]

they say justina after ziping in pve 👀

in june 👀

[hidden creek]

yeah the clip does shows justina after zip

[fickle linden]

works for meee!

[turbid agate]

there's a clip of gameplay?

[hidden creek]

no

[twin finch]

whats the most played level if im looking to play trios as a solo. im only in hard diffuclty. lvl 20 Tessa with Ica build Sens 771

[fierce light]

Nirriti's Ruins - Hard if you have it unlocked.

[twin finch]

i just sat 14 minutes no match . how long does it typically take?

[tacit nest]

you should be able to solo it

[tacit nest]

Accidentally misclicked and got the ranged weapon damage

What the first thing I should do with this jade now

[hidden creek]

get a new one

[tacit nest]

the new ones gonna be worse than this

hell nah

if i manage to get one that is

[hidden creek]

isn't it you already have a noxious blast

wait

you rolled the windfall into 4.2% range weapon damage

[tacit nest]

misclicked lmao

yes

💀

[hidden creek]

4.2% range weapon dmg is just 84%...

bruh

if you still wish to use this jade, roll defuse trigger recovery to rare, and range dmg to attack

[plain spire]

probably wasted 300+ fragment for that 🏴‍☠️

[tacit nest]

eh

about like 100 actually

this jade was a lucky one

[plain spire]

lucky before now it isn't 😂

[tacit nest]

itll be gucci

lmfao

i just misclicked

[timid stirrup]

thats twice u misclicked

[tacit nest]

cuz i usally use my mouse to click recast again

but my controller is plugged in and when it recognizes my controller

it auto puts in on the accept

[fierce light]

Locked in

[lapis sundial]

@fierce light are you on rn?

[fierce light]

Yeah?

[lapis sundial]

Wanna help with the speedrun?

I won't take feria this time I promise 😂

[fierce light]

Yeah I can

[lapis sundial]

Do I have you on friend list already?

[fierce light]

Idk

[lapis sundial]

Tytytyty<3

Anything you wanna run?

[fierce light]

Already had a group that wanted to run after, ggs

[sly kestrel]

I wanna join with u guys 🙂

[fierce light]

Man Matron is tough on Trios ping. I'm guessing next one is Omnious Aureate.

[ionic wren]

Can anyone help with forest peril chapter 6 trying to get Miasma drive souljade from it

[restive wraith]

where is people after event, I queue nirriti for 10 mins already wth

[ionic wren]

Same

[restive wraith]

dead hour I guess

[ionic wren]

What server you on

[restive wraith]

SEA

[ionic wren]

Can anyone help out with forest peril chapter 6 trying to get miasma drive souljade

[woven ingot]

I can’t relate. Spent nearly two hours on solo yesterday and didn’t get one down.
I don’t understand that boss at all i guess. Multi hits on some of the attacks. Mixing her combo at will. Some attacks hit at the end of the animation, some in the middle of it, some at 1/3 of the animation. Some attacks use random delays. That boss makes zero sense to me >.>

[hearty rivet]

In p1 she has a rough pattern, you can follow and use against her. I practiced her with wuchen/skyfire using only defuses (with some defuse heal to stay alive) soloing nightscream trio or speedrun (which is availbale now, although with imho super awful omen combo 😬) , just to figure out her moves. It could give you a basic understanding before the eerie extra bs.

[hearty rivet]

Yeah, with attack-reducing electric wires x.x I wonder if it's to prevent abusing those lines with thunderscorch.

[lucid ore]

I just spent 1 hour doing Matron, sometime I can get through her first stage without death in 1 min-2min, then instantly get smashed by her 2nd phase. If you just want to practice better, maybe add Cinderfrost to survive better

Also I never finish her, closest I can get her without dying all 4 times is ~30%

[restive wraith]

this shit real man, I can't solo that boss neither, luckily I have a good trio who can carry me tho, but still, that boss make no sense, maybe I even get ping diff

80% of the time I have no idea how I defuse it wrong

the animation delay or whatever shit that is, just soooooooooo annoying

not to mention sometime I chain defuse for 3 times

and somehow the boss pull another attack from her ass

rip my stamina

[woven ingot]

That’s the point. On many attacks you don’t know what you did wrong as the hit doesn’t fit with the animation.
On other bosses you can’t say « ok my defuse should have been just a bit after/before i wasn’t on the right timing. ». I don’t have that feeling with matron. I got hit, but no idea what the correct timing was as there is no visual clue.
What you had with more than 3 attacks is i guess her multi hit attacks. She has a combo version where the first attack is the usual opening with one hit. Second attacks does two hits on the same attack/animation at like .5 sec interval and a third attack that does 3 hits on the same attack. If you punish her after you see/hear your defuse normally you ll get hit.
Manticore has that same system when she does her attack on p1 with her head yellow. There are two hits on the same attack. If you punish too fast you ll get the second hit damaging you.

But manticore has a visual and audio cue on that second hit. So it’s easier to deal with it.

[woven ingot]

I m not feeling that bad about the normal version. She s terrible to read on some attacks, but Eerie is 10 times worst. They gave her way more random delay attacks, combo mixes and animations not matching the hits.

[slow kettle]

From the 2025 CNY teaser announcement. Next 2 upcoming showdown heroes

[hearty rivet]

Ohh! Sorry, completely misunderstood you.

[woven ingot]

Nah you were right on the logic. Just that it doesn’t help me to train on the normal as the Eerie is way too different with terrible attacks in term of « readability »

[leaden relic]

POG

[fierce light]

Will have to see how much it reduces attack, forgot TScorch could abuse it.

[amber terrace]

yea, Ziping Yin come in Feb and Justina Gu come in June

[fickle linden]

justina will be ready for next season

[ionic wren]

Is 958 sense level strong enough for topaz enigma?

[wind light]

ziping rework

lets go

[river stratus]

if you have strong jades equipped yes is enuff

[hidden creek]

damn

showdown new combat items beside soul jades

that ''gives additional abilities, enhance weapon techniques and elevate skills/ultimates''

[fierce light]

Dope, more progression

[hidden creek]

more stuffs to farm

💀

gues it's necessary for paragon 20 or something

[warped falcon]

So is zipping joining as well as Justina???

[hidden creek]

yeah zip first then justina

[warped falcon]

Why zipping wtf

She doesn’t make sense in showdown

[hidden creek]

why not

[warped falcon]

It’s like when they added yoto

Shes not integrated in the showdown story so its weird

[hidden creek]

she's not** yet** intergrated in showdown story

[warped falcon]

Justina should have priority

[fierce light]

Yeah Lore doesn't really seem to be their priority for Showdown

I don't mind more side-progression. Distracts you from the brutalness of Recasting.

Just like I don't really mind bad drops when I'm leveling Sense. But afterwards, it really hurts.

[warped falcon]

You’re so real for that

[steep patio]

I think is good for the low level players, or people who die fast, better combat healer then rumi faster to

[fiery rock]

Feel like I have a cuter skin for ziping than Justina

So zipin all the way

[fierce light]

Just sad that they're adding new jades to buff Poison instead of fixing the old ones.

[short meadow]

So they are adding new jadaes everyseason

So players can grind same map for 1000 more times

[fierce light]

They're doing the Suffer No Demon event for them again. So that won't be so bad, it's just going to add unnecessary clutter.

[hidden creek]

it doesn't says so on the roadmap vid though

they just say that there will be new jades, and poison/thunder will be buffed

it doesn't says that ''new jades are poison jades''

[river stratus]

i hope i dont get to swap my jade with new ones

[hidden creek]

same

i think it won't happen

since the meta builds is pretty much settled

also even if it's the case i doubt that we gonna need to replace multiple jades

[fierce light]

Well still new jades is more clutter

[hidden creek]

or it could be completely useless for end game builds lmao

[fierce light]

When we have plenty that need to be readjusted

[hidden creek]

like those purple lotus jades, yeah they're new jades right but no one uses them

[fierce light]

Cause they're just noob traps a lot of times.

[river stratus]

maybe we can get the red archivement collect 80 souljade?

[hidden creek]

isn't it already possible though?

i got 69/80 and i didn't play from the start of showdown

[river stratus]

idk

[signal kite]

[woven ingot]

You already have to use my gold keys to farm. You don’t need more for now!

[woven ingot]

I already saw players with it iirc. So it’s possible for first hour players.

[fierce light]

I'm at 69

[signal kite]

Most of us at 69

[hexed jungle]

anyone doing enigma?

[somber dock]

is anyone able to give me a hand with a few things

[fierce light]

Matari my new favorite for Enigma Domain

[fierce light]

Wow Doom Missions have a max catch up of 90... they don't even expect you to get an Epic Souljade per run.

[warped falcon]

Yes what do u need help with

[placid prairie]

guys how to use flux?

how to copy rare? 😄 imbued?

[woven ingot]

Flux is used from the last tab yes. Where you can change the element of a Jade or add another attribute if you don’t have 4.

[placid prairie]

it doesn't matter if i dont have maxed attributes?

[woven ingot]

No it doesn’t matter. And you don’t have to have 4 attributes either.
When you use it will ask you to choose an attribute on that Jade. And it will change it into one of the 3 rare attributes randomly.

But!!! If you don’t have already a rare atteibute on that jade, don’t use a flux.

Only use flux on jades that already have one rare attribute. If your jade doesn’t have one, use the normal recast attribute system until you get a rare.

[heavy gulch]

lol i have same situation

[woven ingot]

That's why I usually uncheck "use fatigue" when doing the Doom.

[placid prairie]

i have mod

thanks

[fierce light]

Feels like a true Assassin now.

[placid prairie]

i know it was somewhere explained but i couldn't find. Niritis is good farming jades and lvl up them?

[drifting lance]

🎉 | egizz leveled up!
ℹ | Level up messages can be disabled for the guild with owo level disabletext

[fierce light]

Yeah. It doesn't care about your Sense Level, so you can use it to farm early on. Enigma Domain becomes more efficient when you're strong enough for it.

[placid prairie]

my jade lvl is 1060

enigman domain is efficient doing fully or only 3 bosses? and repeat again

[fierce light]

3 Bosses is more efficient on Fatigue. Full is more efficient on Rune Keys.

[placid prairie]

i need jades for recast ant lvl up so dunno what is better

[fierce light]

If you have a lot of Rune Keys to spare, you can do the 3 Boss method basically.

Make sure not to use Legendary Rune Keys for it

[placid prairie]

yes i have alot of keys, thanks

only missing one jade ghlastbloom

[formal lark]

best method to lvl up sense lvl fast is: desert tribunals, go instantly to second chest, open it and leave.

on 150% you get 3 jades on 100% you get 2 jades for 3 fatigue

takes 2 min per round

[placid prairie]

im too weak to get ghlastbloom jade

[hidden creek]

you couldn't get a single one on suffer no demon?

[woeful bay]

anyone wanna run some enigma topez EU? got a few keys

[analog aspen]

sure I'd be down for some games

[woeful bay]

I can be there in about 15min

[analog aspen]

thats good for me

[warped falcon]

Do u guys need 3rd?

[woeful bay]

yes

[analog aspen]

I think so

[warped falcon]

Ok pls add me

[analog aspen]

9444400020166

@woeful bay we're rdy btw

[woeful bay]

I'll be there in 2min

sent you a fr

[hushed acorn]

Is it better to use her F fully charged or uncharged?

Or does it depend?

[radiant cedar]

I have a question about Kurumi in Nirriti's Ruins... Which enhancements I should choose for better heals there? Help

[fierce light]

Pretty much charge it if you're far away from an enemy, don't if you're close.

[fierce light]

Her heals don't scale off anything, think it's just % of target's Health. But there's plenty of Rings that'll heal you.

[woeful bay]

Ziping is coming to showdown!

[radiant cedar]

During the run, only one ring did appear for heals... Well i think was only for me, i havent close the summary yet, i can screenshot you what i have pick up

But during the final boss 1 player went down.

My skills was in cd, i felt helpless

[placid prairie]

no

[woeful bay]

there will come a second snd in the second quarter again

[radiant cedar]

@fierce light by the way.... any chance U the one made Showdown guide and posted in reddit? 🤔

[fierce light]

There's rings that reduce your skill cooldown when you meet certain conditions as well

[fierce light]

Yeah

[radiant cedar]

oh.. first of all, thank you for sharing, I been following since I found out showdown 😊
Second.. I kinda pick up the rings kinda in rush, I heard my team mates channeling the portals x-x'

so I should go for CDs and heals, rest is about dmg? whenever the RNG is "bad"?

[fickle linden]

hopefully it will drop ts jades 🙏

[woven ingot]

Who's in La La Land now?

[fierce light]

I usually just go for as much damage as I can either from Element or HydroFlare. Cause the longer a fight takes, the harder it is. But along the way you'll find some that can either reduce your cooldown or heal you. They usually have heal in their name.

Curious how they're going to make Thunder builds stronger

[radiant cedar]

hmm Okey ^^ thanks, I appreciate it

[hexed jungle]

enigma domain anyone im starting the first one in NA

[radiant cedar]

EU here... :/

[hidden creek]

boost divine thunder dmg by 500%

[woven ingot]

Tabbie doing game balancing!! 😂

[fierce light]

Yeah boosting their damage multipliers would be the simple way to do it

That would be a bit much though.

[tacit nest]

@hidden creek i got 3.8 attack from that one ranged weapon damage

[hidden creek]

they should hire me from the start

[woeful monolith]

What is the Special Thunder Ability you get in Yamas? Not Atomize but?

[woven ingot]

That would be lot of fun I agree. Except we would probably have to change our whole Jade setup every week.

[woeful monolith]

#tabbie for prez = #Buff T Scorch

[fierce light]

Don't remember what it's called

[tacit nest]

when you say thunder, you mean thunder lotus or scorch

or both?

[fierce light]

I consider Scorch a Burn build, not Thunder

Since Thunder DMG is pretty much non-existent

[tacit nest]

that makes sense

whats the most popular thunder builds?

and why do they suck

[woeful monolith]

......dmg

[fickle linden]

is there popular thunder build?

never seen anyone use one..

[woeful monolith]

Showdown site is pinned

[hidden creek]

it used to be the meta build

[fickle linden]

i know but i started the game last month so i've never seen one

[woeful monolith]

I got you , if you look on the site it will giv e you all that info

[hidden creek]

yeah with the later updates it slowly falls out of the meta

now its core issue is about how the wielding affect our own thunder bar

[fickle linden]

ewww 12x wf

[woeful monolith]

?

[hidden creek]

thunder build rely on divine thunder dmg to do damages, and you need to have 6 thunder wielding on it to boost divine thunder dmg
but by having 6 thunder wielding it decrease the accumulation rate of your own thunder bar, lead to divine thunder appear less frequently lead to low dps

[fickle linden]

takes so many recasts

no mod no scorching only wf

[woeful monolith]

Recommended and any build will low key require alot of re cast to be fa ir

[fickle linden]

atleast with lotus builds there is 2/3 chance to get the right rare

but yeah more options for builds would be nice, hopefully they buff thunder in the future

[hidden creek]

yeah they're buffing it along with poison

[radiant cedar]

Thor would agree

[fierce light]

Springs Thunder was the last meta one. It's still good when we have no potential leveled, but falls behind significantly with a leveled potential. There's also Thunder Lotus, but that one relies on your potential and falls behind.

[fickle linden]

any chance they make solidification to work like tundra might?

[fierce light]

[Moderation] isn't even that good on Thunder builds due to its lack of bonus accumulation.

[tacit nest]

thats why its 12 windfall and thats it

no mod or scorch

basically relying on attributes

?

[fierce light]

Yeah

[radiant cedar]

🤔

[dapper gale]

no more 125% moderation. yay

[timid stirrup]

nice congrats

[twin ledge]

i have a fully built thunder build with 11 windfalls would be 12 but i decided to leave the last jade with 1 windfall so i can have some dmg to boss

[spice canyon]

Or maybe defuse / counter recovery for a little sustain

[twin ledge]

huh

nah

[twin ledge]

wait what build u talking about

[spice canyon]

Your fully built jade, some people do use 11 rare and put 3rd attribute like counter/defuse recovery

[twin ledge]

talking about spring call thunder build

and the potential is enough healing

i dont use the build now tho because have fully build thunder burn with all max stats so hope they give og thunder a good buff

im bored of using thunder burn or ice lotus

plus dont use it because proof, counter and pull is with my thunder burn atm

[twin ledge]

And the last jade I had dmg to boss because of wuchen last season since dmg to boss helped wuchen melee dmg a lot

[fierce light]

Potential gives heal on counter/defuse for Spring's Thunder and Thunder Lotus.

Just Thunder Scorch doesn't have room for it

[icy sundial]

whats better ?

[wind light]

ofcourse winfalls

[hidden creek]

?

[hidden creek]

how much mod you got

[fierce light]

If you don't have 4 [Moderation]'s already, then that's better. Otherwise, [Windfall].

[wind light]

btw your sub stats in this jade kinda low

[icy sundial]

i think i only have 1 mod 1 windfall 1 scorch then i swapped that so i have now 2 mod and 1 scorch

i should have swapped the scorch not windfall

[wind light]

which build are you using

[icy sundial]

ice

[wind light]

ice lotus or ice thunder lotus 444

[wind light]

okay cool , your goal for every jade is iceblast dmg 30% and 5% attack

100% moderation

everything left is windsfall

[icy sundial]

mod on ghast and subzero, scorch in successive ice blast and i have 1 more flux, where should i put the flux

[timid stirrup]

wait to use the flux

also attack is 4% max

[wind light]

1/turn your scroch into a maximum stat by use 60 times recast choice

or

discard the successive ice blase to get a flux jade , if you have another successive jade that have good stats

[wind light]

oh yeah i forgot 💀

[timid stirrup]

can u show ur successive?

[timid stirrup]

get rid oif scorching for a max stat or near max stat at least 80%

that is a horrible jade

[wind light]

stats kinda low

[timid stirrup]

not a single stat is 50%

[icy sundial]

im thinking i should get stats first before maxing

[timid stirrup]

if u happen to have a better successive i would just deconstruct the scorch and get a flux shard

[hidden creek]

nowhere

[timid stirrup]

u can recast the scorching into a max stat

u just need luck and patience

[wind light]

i believe you find another jade

if you dont have another ice blast you keep it

[plain spire]

You should focus first on having a max normal attribute 2x before doing in any rare attributes.

[timid stirrup]

that would take longer. mainly wanna have decent % attributes 75%+ if possible otherwise anything over 50% is fair

if u get wrong rare like in this case scorching u can recast the scorch into a max stat or 80%+ stat and continue recasting for wanted rare

[hidden creek]

80%+? 😂

i will not settle for anything below 95% when recasting a rare into a normal attribute

[timid stirrup]

true i wouldnt either but some ppl r impatient so i give them a grace of 80%

[hidden creek]

anyway he's new to showdown

[timid stirrup]

i figured as much

[hidden creek]

he farmed SND and got that set of jades

but the stats is sht yes

[timid stirrup]

damn

[hidden creek]

but at least it's a functioning build

[timid stirrup]

cant argue there

[hidden creek]

so what i would do is just recast for 1 rare on each jade, doesn't matter what the rare is

try to get 100% mod

w/o using flux

[timid stirrup]

thats y i said dont use flux yet

[hidden creek]

then use that set of jade to farm better jades

[fierce light]

I was impatient and did 80%'s. Kinda regret it now

It's taking like an extra 3 weeks to max out my build cause of it

[hidden creek]

and i misclicked confirm 2 times and wasted 2 flux 😂

[timid stirrup]

i cant see u as an impatient person DZ

[fierce light]

This'll be the first build I max

Granted I am like <1% away from the damage I could do at max so I'm not stressing it.

[hidden creek]

what's ur plm stats now?

[fierce light]

405 Attack, 374.2% PBD, 13.5% DMG to Boss.

[plain spire]

how much fragment would you guesss spent on that remaining .8% to max ?

[fierce light]

200 probably

[timid stirrup]

i should prolly get rid of my defuse recovery on my poison build

[plain spire]

ohh thats good, im expecting around 400+ im scared getting 95% attribute for fear of spending more fragment.

[tacit nest]

how do i use ferias multi defuse tactic

?

if anyone can help

tryna beat paragon 4

[plain spire]

after successfull defuse you wait for another attack and press rmb

[tacit nest]

controller terms?

[plain spire]

after successfull attack feria will enter into defuse stance you press vertical attack to trigger another defuse

if you press horizontal attack feria will do defuse counter attack

[tacit nest]

so after defuse press vertical attack and it will defuse again

?

[plain spire]

yes

[tacit nest]

ighty ]

[tacit nest]

any tips of paragon 4

that second version is killing me man

[spice canyon]

Just keep trying and get used to it
Her second form (eerie), every attack has a follow-up / quick attack

[tacit nest]

@fierce light wanna make a vid on paragon 4

[timid stirrup]

he already did as matari https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGvKymDHbjM&t

[fierce light]

OBS had an update that broke the controller overlay, so waiting on that to be fixed

[timid stirrup]

mine is working

[fierce light]

I might have to get a new one then

[timid stirrup]

i just turned the overlay off then back on

have u tried that? otherwise might need to copy the url again

[fierce light]

Yeah I got a new url and did that, still saying disconnected

[celest quest]

I’m proud to say I’ve made a significant improvement to my build. (I copied DarkZero0’s Kurumi Solo build) thank you all!

[wind light]

idk of i should get arcane thunder or miasma

[radiant cedar]

there's a guy made a guide for showdown, Dark Zero 😮

[wind light]

yeah he is the man

[analog aspen]

Is there a guide on how to clear enigma topaz efficiently? I can always clear 8/9 bosses and then time runs out

I'm pretty sure it's doable with my build

[chrome seal]

Idk what your souljades are but you may wanna look into upgrading their stats

[wind light]

get a decent team mates

1 farming 2 kill boss

farm until 70%

[chrome seal]

Also just make sure to have a good build like ones that Darkzero has described in the guide and that you have at least 5wielding on the jades

[wind light]

dont let boss spawn in another place

[chrome seal]

He's talking about topaz so ig he means solo mode

[wind light]

ah shiet i thought peak

[chrome seal]

Unless I'm confusing it the other way around lol

[wind light]

yeah idk

[analog aspen]

how can I control where the boss spawns though?

[chrome seal]

Usually clearing just 3 mobs spots makes sure that you get bosses at the same spot

I think it's indeed around 70% progress like arm says

[analog aspen]

I'll keep an eye on that the next time I clear it

[analog aspen]

I finally did it!

but the bosses keeped spawning all ower the map

[river stratus]

on solo make spawn first boss then keep farm until 65~% then go to kill 3 boss back to back

[thorny bay]

just wondering why you invested in poison since ice blast is better?

[timid stirrup]

u can go as high as 80% b4 it spawns somewhere else

[analog aspen]

but sometimes the % also resets when opening a chest no?

[woven ingot]

Nope. If that happens that means you went too high and that chest moved you from 85% over 100%

[analog aspen]

I mean it could also be worse

[faint night]

Hi, can somebody help with enigma ice wielding?

[fierce light]

Cause managing the freeze is annoying and I enjoy the playstyle of poison more.

[fickle linden]

does every difficulty in nirriti give same hero xp?

[analog aspen]

I'm not sure

But I think if you want to farm hero xp you should just do some yamas abyss runs

There it gives 100xp per lvl

[fickle linden]

well that certainly would be way faster

and i wouldn't have to run nirriti with temulch

[woven ingot]

You should also have quite some items to level him from quests/events and such.

[fickle linden]

i used them all to level other heros

[dusk plover]

@fierce light what’s Xbox times so far?

This definitely a sub 1 min with Thunder Scorch. Got a 1:10 while still missing out on about 7% Health and 3% attack

[fierce light]

Last i checked it was 2:01. No one's using Thunder Scorch yet and this one greatly favors it in solos at least.

[spice canyon]

imo Thunder Scorch start to obsolete since paragon 3

[woeful bay]

anyone wanna run some enigma topez EU?

[radiant cedar]

I haven't unlock it yet :/

[fierce light]

I think we got a faster time in Trios though with two Lotus builds and 1 Thunder Scorch. Forgot what it was though

[radiant cedar]

I been farming Souljades in Forest Peril, but there's alternitives?

[sullen pawn]

depends if you wanna recast or level up

[radiant cedar]

Level up, im kinda stuck one stage

[sullen pawn]

enigma domain is your best bet, kill 3 bosses and go out

can run nirriti hard as well but less jades, you do start saving up for recasting later on tho

[radiant cedar]

that... is the issue ^^' Im stuck one part

I haven't unlocked Enigma yet

so I was trying get souljades to be "materials" and upgrade the ones im using it

[hidden creek]

just run nirriti

[sullen pawn]

^

[radiant cedar]

Okey, i'll give a run ^^ thx

[fickle linden]

i miss the event already

[tacit nest]

mightve been us in paragon 3

[fickle linden]

nirriti would be 🔥 if you could use your own build instead of anima cards

[tacit nest]

that one guy used his scorch

[fierce light]

If you're on, can you check my time on Matari Trios?

[radiant cedar]

hmmm, for Tessa, what type build I should go for her? im having fun with her ^^'

[hidden creek]

ice lotus, poison lotus, thunder scorch

[radiant cedar]

Thank you ^^

[tacit nest]

2:16

thats paragon 4

[fierce light]

Ah gotcha, nvm then.

[hidden creek]

this mean i'm lucky or unlucky?

[woven ingot]

Waow, you were quite lucky to have so few catch up.

[hidden creek]

[woven ingot]

See, you aren't that unlcuky.

[fierce light]

Pretty lucky, less than 7 fragments below the average.

[hidden creek]

it's weird seeing only 1 sj as compensation at 1200 fatigue spent

💀

[woven ingot]

Are you going going to complain that your luck wasn't terrible? 😂

[hidden creek]

[fierce light]

It's likely going to be a Legendary, but yeah 690 / 160 = ~4.

[woven ingot]

Gogo Tabbie!
And now drop some fragments for me! I only need a few thousands to make flux shards.

[hidden creek]

idek what am i gonna do with my builds now

got ilm and plm at 100% mod and at least 1 rare each jade
maxed stats on plm, ilm is the completely opposite, so many non-maxed stats

like i have nothing to do with the sj now beside recating trash jades for rares and deconstruct them for flux to imbue

for a 12 rares build

[fickle linden]

vacation time until new patch

[woven ingot]

I know that moment too well.

[misty bridge]

@fierce light Do you recomend this tree for ice lotus build?
i have 12 scorching btw

Or is it better to go for the green one

[hidden creek]

12 scorchings on ice lotus wtf

[fierce light]

If you have 12 Scorching, then yeah go for Water and Fire Raged.

[woven ingot]

You can take a vacation, stock fragments for next big update, or perfect your current builds.

[misty bridge]

Yeah

[fierce light]

Welcome to the end game haha.

The gains are so slow at this point, that it's hard to notice if you're getting stronger.

[hidden creek]

i think i'll wait for the poison buff, if it's good enough i'll get rid of my ilm and focus on it

[fierce light]

Why I'm happy to have another source of progression coming up.

[woven ingot]

Well i also had 4 scorching attributes two-three weeks ago. RNG things.
I recasted them into damage to boss, but i did had that at one point.

[woven ingot]

that's the hard point, it's very long to progress anything as you only need a few % here and there, and some rare attributes. And in the end when you manage it, it doesn't feel that much different on your results in game.

[fierce light]

Thunder Scorch had the biggest power spike with the 4 Scorchings. Moderation builds have a similar power spike as well. All that's left really is for them to buff Valda's ability, add some Rage Generation to Tianhai's ability (like Yueshan), buff Yoto Hime's ability and remove the upward motion from Temulch's ability.

[faint night]

Can someone help with enigma peak(ice wielding)

[woven ingot]

I can if you get a 3rd.

[faint night]

Sounds difficult, but I'll try

[woven ingot]

We can go duo if you need to do it for a challenge, but don't hope for more than 3/5 bosses at best ^^

[faint night]

I'll try to find 3rd

Want to complete season challenge

[fierce light]

Can't wait for this Yama's Stage to be gone. Favors Ice Builds too much.

[placid prairie]

anyone could help me holorth (hard manticore)?

[placid prairie]

europe server ...

[woven ingot]

I can help in 10 min

[placid prairie]

when you can help?

we are duo

[woven ingot]

Now ^^

[placid prairie]

and it's not possible 😄

6235200150166 add

[woven ingot]

Seems like i can't invite as you're two

9123900030166 for inviting me

[fierce light]

Managed to cut it down to 1:50 on Trios. Probably can do that on Solos as well, just hadn't gotten around to it.

[placid prairie]

@woven ingot could you help me nightmare?

[placid prairie]

thanks for helping me ;)))

[woven ingot]

You're welcome! Glad I could ^^

[placid prairie]

@woven ingot as you could see we are so weak 😄 i wanted to ask more help but it's too shame 😄

[radiant cedar]

I kinda need help in Immovable hard mode >-<'

[hidden creek]

just focus on farming nirriti and level up your sense

then you should be able to get through all hard stages and most of nightscream stages with a starter build

[woven ingot]

You both did well on Manticore. It's just getting better gear, which will come now ^^

[radiant cedar]

that is what I did, ^^' still failed

[hidden creek]

what's your current sense level

[radiant cedar]

780+

[hidden creek]

you haven't farm enough of nirriti then

get it to 1100

then steamroll through the stages later

[dusk plover]

Yeah the trios is definitely going to favor 3 ice lotus over 3 thunder scorch

[twin ledge]

Thunder burn still does more dmg

[signal kite]

This means u been only farming enigma peak ,, same happened to me 2 better drops there ,,, nirriti bad drops

[hidden creek]

nah i farmed peak first 600 and next 600 is nirriti

[signal kite]

That screenshot was after doing 600 and little of nirriti so I'm right

[hidden creek]

😂 no but ok

anyway

brown key is so sht now

it's not even worth it to run enigma anymore if you don't use a gold key

[signal kite]

Ohh 1230 fatigue consumed mb mb

[woven ingot]

Topaze or Peak?

[hidden creek]

topaz ofc, who run peak with brown key...

[woven ingot]

I could if i was trying solo!! 😂

[hidden creek]

lol

[signal kite]

Randoms that coming in my team while me running gold

[hidden creek]

how do i even farm 20 gold keys a week...

first 600 fatigue is for peak and it needs 20 keys if no elixir

[woven ingot]

I told you to take mines, and repay me in Fragments!

[hidden creek]

GIMME

[hidden creek]

LMAO

[woven ingot]

I wish that was possible.
But if you can solo Peak, I can come to your game with a key, I go afk somewhere with my 200ms ping and you get the luck bonus!

[astral widget]

@woven ingot bro how u did nirrits ruins in 53 sec? xD

[woven ingot]

I don't Oo I'm a slow one, I usually need 8ish minutes for a run. And that's only the in-combat time.

[astral widget]

lol

[woven ingot]

Congrats, a free Flux fragment.

[astral widget]

i didnt know i can drop something like this

[astral widget]

so if i deconstruct it i will get flux fragment?

[woven ingot]

Yes, so it's a good drop.

[astral widget]

;DD

[idle bronze]

Someone willing to help us with Showdown on Hard Level? We're stuck at Chapter 4, is too hard on two people on trio mode :c

[dapper gale]

getting a rare attribute out in the wild naturally is a very satisfying feeling

[sullen pawn]

can help out with story if you want, 4345000030166

[radiant cedar]

Oh, well.. I was preparing myself for bed tho ^^'

But thanks i appreciat the gesture, but i kinda tired rn ><'

[dusk plover]

Sure but ice lotus trios dishes out not so far off damage much quicker/consistently especially if three people are running it and the boss hardly ever has its aegis shield. 3 ice lotus most likely going to have a quicker time than 3 thunderscorch unless they get like god run rng in the higher levels.

Plus just easier to play around unlike with copper ward

[fierce light]

Aegis doesn't really break past Paragon 2. But yeah it's damage is pretty consistently high. I think it does help to have at least 1 Thunder Scorch though for bosses that throw lots of blues.

[dusk plover]

Yeah this boss for sure throws more blues than the others besides first form bough. Haven’t tried a three stack ice lotus in Yamas yet I was the only one and figured it would scale higher given what i did on 3

I don’t think there’s any bosses other that first form matron and bough (eerie) that throw as many blues though

[fierce light]

Hopefully the Divine Strikes omen in the next one isn't too crazy

Should be fun with Matari though.

[dusk plover]

Omg I take longer on my topaz runs but doing it with matari is just so much fun now it’s worth the time difference

[restive wraith]

at this point you should be thankful if you have a match lol

I'm solo for so long cause noone playing : (

[fierce light]

My Matari runs were quicker, even with a lot of mistakes

[restive wraith]

as long as you have 4 mod I think matari have potential to be the best mobber

I always cleared enough mob and have spare time even with 2 bosser

🤔 maybe topaz is too easy at this point

I need a 3 stack if I wanna do peak

[dusk plover]

Well I just now barely broke 300% ice blast on my lotus build. Still missing a lot of attack and increase damage to boss

Still worth the time trade off for me on topaz with the change of pace

[fierce light]

Mobbing is a little slower than say Tessa, but she makes up for it with mobility and boss DPS.

[plain spire]

I enjoy matari mobbing she can clear those mob camps so fast

[fierce light]

Cut it down to 1:32

[twin ledge]

Oh u had arcane I didn’t even notice u had that on

[fierce light]

If they buff Poison's accumulation enough to where I don't need it, that would be nice

[spice canyon]

Rank 5 solar 😭

[hidden creek]

wait isn't it @tacit nest

[fierce light]

Did they rework Matari the same patch they added Trios?

She's still fairly hard to play compared to others though so I'm not overly surprised.

[twin ledge]

I think

[tacit nest]

Yeah I soloed that just to get on leaderboard

Gotta at least stay on somehow

😖

I don’t got people to play with

[lone umbra]

SEA leaderboard is on another level

[fierce light]

Oh i bet

[lone umbra]

Can't even get top 100 matari with decent run 💀

[dusk plover]

They really need to buff heros assemble. Almost just completed it with only 6 people. Got to the E in korvine on her last phase. With the addition of wuchen tessa and yueshan buff those 4 just melt through the bosses with a well timed annihilate light/yushan bladestorm

[hidden creek]

it was just a chamber activity that rewards aren't even that good...

[dusk plover]

The chests potions are nice to get though

[hidden creek]

if you get them

[dusk plover]

My draconjc chest luck has been dog and that’s less gold to spend

[hidden creek]

the point is it's just a chamber activity where people in the same chamber hang out

it's not competitive, also it was made so even a guild with no interest in showdown could finish it

no point asking for it to be harder

[fierce light]

Funny, my chamber with like 11 people in there struggle to clear it. They don't really know Showdown kits that well.

[dusk plover]

Well the 6 of us that were in there are the ones that I taught who to use and how

[hidden creek]

are you the one who do the calculating dice?

[dusk plover]

Plus I finally got them into showdown more last season so they atleast know what defusing and aegis attacks are

[dusk plover]

Not about being harder more about balancing out like it was before it changed

[hidden creek]

balancing?

[dusk plover]

I liked the other version of it better than this one were the higher chapters had better rewards

Not necessarily pure rng

[hidden creek]

like

why do you even care about it's not being hard to clear enough?

you literally said they need to buff it because you guys finished it too easy

nothing about the rewards

[dusk plover]

Yeah buff it up a little to balance out all the new heros and updates to them?

[hidden creek]

what balance? why?

[dusk plover]

^

[hidden creek]

this has NOTHING to do with what you said on the first place

[dusk plover]

Because it use to be a cool mechanic that had promise now it’s dead

[hidden creek]

what you said was just ''make it harder, it's too easy''

[dusk plover]

Yeah it’s a whole separate point of me saying I like the older version of heros assemble better than the new one?

Never said it was part of the first point you did

[hidden creek]

and i said nothing about you liking the old version more than the new one?

[dusk plover]

Just an opinion though don’t have to be all heart wrenching about it

[hidden creek]

i'm only reply to your first comment of ''make it harder, it's too easy'' that there's literally no point to ask for it to be harder

[dusk plover]

Maybe that’s why you want, your point?

[fierce light]

Sometimes, but some of them are hard to think off the top of my head in combat

[hidden creek]

what?

[dusk plover]

You also added the whole rewards thing in my second point to the first point not me

[hidden creek]

yeah, i add the rewards thing because the rewards is already bad enough for the efforts

to make my point why it shouldn't be harder

[dusk plover]

And they didn’t use to be

They are now hence me saying I like the older version better

[hidden creek]

yeah you said nothing about it on your first comment

why do i need to understand that you want it to be harder and also back to the old version that gives better rewards?

you just said you want it to be harder because it's too easy for you atm

[dusk plover]

What was there to say? I said my opinion to buff it a little to balance out the new heros and updates to them If they just going to keep it the same.

[dusk plover]

Where did I say “because it’s too easy for me atm”?

[hidden creek]

''They really need to buff heros assemble. Almost just completed it with only 6 people. Got to the E in korvine on her last phase. With the addition of wuchen tessa and yueshan buff those 4 just melt through the bosses with a well timed annihilate light/yushan bladestorm''

[dusk plover]

Like why are you treating my opinion on two different points of a game mode like it’s life or death dude?

[hidden creek]

?

are you seriously saying that this isn't you saying it's too easy?

[hidden creek]

because your ''opinion'' is absolutely nonsense

[dusk plover]

Again where did I say that they need to do that only because it’s too easy?

[hidden creek]

like when ppl want it to be easier so even a weak guild can get full rewards you want it to be harder? for what? going around bragging that my guild clear hero assemble in 3 mins?

[dusk plover]

And that’s your opinion which you can have and I don’t really care about

[hidden creek]

lmao it's literally your words

[hidden creek]

you can type but can't read or something?

[dusk plover]

Show me where I said those exact words

Not what you make up in your mind.

[hidden creek]

your very first comment

you're telling me that what you wrote aren't equal to ''make it harder, it's too easy for me''?

[dusk plover]

You’re proving my point. Literally didn’t say that your projecting what you are putting in my mouth.

[hidden creek]

projecting LMAO i can't 😂

bro

just stop

[dusk plover]

Read though first point leads to second point about the old version being better where chambers can pick which chapters they want to do. Lower ones being easier for crappy rewards (how it is now) and higher chapters for better rewards.

[hidden creek]

you show ANYONE your comment and ask if they think what you're saying can be shortened to ''make it harder, it's too easy'' or not

[dusk plover]

I’m literally not the one treating someone’s opinion about a game mode and how the old one was better like it’s a life or death situation?

[hidden creek]

literally anyone with more than 2 braincells will think so

[dusk plover]

And then the read the next part about the old version they realize it’s two points that lead into each other?

[hidden creek]

lmao you only mentioned it because you realized what you said make zero sense and now you trying to cover it up

[dusk plover]

I said the second point to dark before you even spoke up?

You just inserted yourself because for whatever reason this is life or death to you?

[hidden creek]

before i even spoke up?

[dusk plover]

I answered to you about the chest then was talking to dark

[hidden creek]

why can't i ''insert'' myself? this is a public chat, you got your ''opinion'' i got mine

[dusk plover]

Not everything is to you or about you dude

[hidden creek]

who are you to tell me that i can't ''insert'' myself into this?