👾┃showdown

[gaunt yoke]

Hey! Does thunder counter build or lotus build do more damage? What if you dont use copper ward on thunder build then?

[woeful bay]

Thank you

[fierce light]

Combine that with Epiphany and 2 Lotus Impacts will deal more damage than a Bloom Blast.

If only we had more Souljade slots, a Lotus Impact focused build could be really good.

[hidden creek]

yep

but we don't

so

i tried to make it work but all paths are blocked

[fierce light]

Not to be mistaken with a Divine Thunder build, Thunder Scorch is its own beast. It'll get you the fastest times in Solo Yama's Abyss, however, in Trios it seems to fall behind Ice Lotus a bit.

[hidden creek]

also the reason why thunder lotus ain't a thing

[fierce light]

Too many Core Souljades on the builds now

[hidden creek]

yeah if you want to make a build focused on the spinning lotuses you kinda have to give up on lotus explosion dmg completely

and it's definitely not worth it

[tacit nest]

i would think that elemental lotus would do better no

since it causes more to spawn

henceforth more that expire for the blasts

?

[woeful bay]

What is a burn build and what is a Hydroflare build?

[fierce light]

Lotus Aegis Break would probably be a good option for someone like Valda who can use their Aegis-Break safely and benefit from it.

[fierce light]

Essentially would have to stand near the enemy for 2s for it to beat Elemental Lotus on a Poison build at least. Elemental Lotus is core for Ice Lotus build though.

[hidden creek]

a burn build is a build which most of its dmg comes from causing burn status on target
technically speaking hydroflare build is still a burn build, you trigger hydroflare by apply burn and soaked status on the same target

tscorch is also a burn build

[fierce light]

They're effectively the same thing, just a Hydroflare build often makes use of Draco Stride.

[woeful bay]

How hard is it to get all the souljades compared to Thunder Counter or Toxin Build?

or is it not rly worth it to even compare them bc both are about equally strong if not maxed out?

[fierce light]

There's an event mission right now giving pretty much all the jades you'd need for a Poison Lotus or Ice Lotus build.

[tacit nest]

just spam new event over n over

[fierce light]

Pretty much no excuse to not have the jades now unless you just weren't paying attention and missed out on one of the best farms.

[woeful bay]

[tacit nest]

work on ice build

[woeful bay]

will do, could you just explain why so I understand it in the future?

[fierce light]

Thunder Scorch is the strongest for Solo Yama's Abyss at the moment. Ice Lotus is the strongest for everything else except Nirriti's Ruins.

[woeful bay]

Thank you!

[gaunt yoke]

Is paragon 10 gunna be the new boss? 😬

[tacit nest]

prolly an eerie version

[gaunt yoke]

Rip

[tacit nest]

who knows tho lol

[fierce light]

Last season it was [Eerie] Omnious Bough

No telling what they'll do this time around.

[tacit nest]

you think theyll add more to morus isle or no?

more story?

[fierce light]

Not till next season

[hidden creek]

what's harder

[hidden creek]

eerie or demon

[fierce light]

What's Demon

[woeful bay]

I think the first has better attributes but the latter has a higher sense level - which one should I use?

[hidden creek]

idk what it's called in english

but it's a diff difficulty from what i understand

[tacit nest]

damnn

bro got a 28.5 off rip

[hidden creek]

diff from eerie status

[tacit nest]

keep that second one

[fierce light]

If you're talking about Umbra, that's weaker than normal.

[hidden creek]

is that one on peak?

[woeful bay]

Bc of sense level or are there attributes I should look out for?

[hidden creek]

no not the shadow

[tacit nest]

its a core ice lotus jade

you need ice blast damge as core attribute

[fierce light]

1 max attribute, 1 really high attribute and 1 above 50%. I'd say that's a keeper.

[hidden creek]

wdym, ur second one got way better stats compare to the first one

[tacit nest]

it gave you a super high ice blast damage

both

[woeful bay]

ok thx

[tacit nest]

sense is higher and so are attributes

on second one

[hidden creek]

no one cares about the sense

[woeful bay]

idk what attributes are considered "good" or "high"

[hidden creek]

that jade got 1 maxed attribute and 1 at 95%

it's the perfect jade to start recasting

[tacit nest]

if you go to upgrade your jades it gives you a list on the right of attributes you want on that jade

data from other players

its in pinned too

[gaunt yoke]

Press ALT on pc to see max attributes values. The closer a jades attributes are to max the better it is

[fierce light]

Don't really care about which are good when starting out, you want ones close to their max

[cyan grove]

By reasting the attribute? It'll take so much time and ressources dear lord

[woeful bay]

Successive Ice Blast

• Successive Ice Blast, Frozen Blast, Sub-Zero Seal, Tundra Might, Arcane Thunder, & Incineration
• x8 [Windfall], x4 [Moderation], x6 Attack, x6 Ice Blast DMG

this one?

[tacit nest]

yessir

[cobalt torrent]

the lowest i've seen so far, he did not afk for the first minute dunno what happened later

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Ard leveled up!
| Extra rewards were added for missing levels
ℹ | Level up messages can be disabled for the guild with owo level disabletext

[woeful bay]

thank you guys, I don't know what to do without you

[fierce light]

That's an old build, you want the ones with Lotus in them now for elemental ones.

[woeful bay]

Ice Lotus:
Successive Ice Blast, Frozen Blast (optional), Sub-Zero Seal, Tundra Might, Elemental Lotus & Ghastbloom.

• x4 [Moderation], x8 [Windfall], Ice Blast DMG, & Attack.
• x12 [Windfall], Ice Blast DMG, & Attack

this one?

[fierce light]

Yes

[hidden creek]

do you even know what it means though?

[woeful bay]

not rly

[hidden creek]

i don't mean anything but judging from how you said your 1st jade got ''better attribute'' it's clearly you're lost

[fierce light]

The builds are explained more so on the site

[woeful bay]

the souljade names I get and then I look for atk, ice blast dmg and idk what the others are but I guess they are also attribute names?

[woeful bay]

as lost as Atlantis

[hidden creek]

when you accquire the jade, DON'T care about what's the attributes are

the only thing you should care about is HOW MANY of these attributes are close to max

[fierce light]

Getting the Attributes you want on a Souljade is easy later, but getting them to max is the hardest part.

[woeful bay]

ok

[hidden creek]

yes, that's why we prio getting the high value first

then recast for desired attributes later

[woeful bay]

how do I know how close an attribute is to max?

[tacit nest]

hence the one you got with 28.5 ice blast damage

keep ts

[hidden creek]

hover ur mouse over the jades, press ALT

in ur case u got 200 armor which is maxed (200/200) and ice blast 28.5 which is 95% of max (28.5/30)

armor is useless yes, but now if you reroll that armor attribute into attack you will get a maxed attack

which is 4%

this is why you prio the value first

[woeful bay]

I see

[tacit nest]

if you reroll a maxed attribute, it will roll into another maxed?

[hidden creek]

yes

[tacit nest]

...

i didnt know that

[hidden creek]

not just maxed, it will always retain the value

you reroll a 95% you will get a 95%

[tacit nest]

that wouldve been so helpful

thank you

[fierce light]

Only rare attributes randomize the value.

[hidden creek]

though from my experience rerolling a maxed rare got higher chance for a maxed attribute to show up earlier

but don't quote me on this

[tacit nest]

i will remember this for next season

for sure

[fierce light]

@cyan grove You could probably have at least 4 [Moderation]s and 2 [Windfall]s by now if you focused on the single rares first. When you start working on the 2nd rare, you're consuming twice the amount to do so, so it should only be done after getting your first ones right.

[fierce light]

Bro was struggling

[woeful bay]

should I use the second bc of the 7.2%?

[fierce light]

The first one is better cause it has 2 high attributes.

[hidden creek]

or you can open the 4th attribute

and see what you get

then decide

[woeful bay]

how do I do that?

[woeful bay]

is that worthit?

these shrouded jades seem rare

[hidden creek]

well

let me explain

when you acquired a jade, obviously it's really good when you got 2 base max or high value attributes, so that jade is a worth to start recasting to use
but it's rarely the case, if you only look for it you might ended up wating for too long
so most of us settled with 1 high/max attribute and 1 attribute that is like, over 50% or something

to start recasting

[woeful bay]

alright

[hidden creek]

but let's say you got 1 jade with 1 max attribute but 2 low, and another one with 2 high attributes (not max) and 1 low

you could gamble it again by opening the 4th slot

and see if you get a high/max value attribute on one of them

[woeful bay]

another question - with the thunder counter build I know you can negate the penalty effect, the thunder, with the counter jade and get a free gold focus out of it. Is there any equivalent for poison and frost?

[fierce light]

Shrouded Jades are pretty rare though and more often than not the 4th attribute likes to roll low rather than high. So can do that strat at your own risk.

[hidden creek]

for poison, infectious touch will get rid of your toxified status and transfer it onto ur target
for ice, if you use your F/V when the freeze is about to happen, you will be immune from it

or if you equips the yushan shadow jade, you can defuse the freeze

[woeful bay]

F/V is focus and vertical?

[hidden creek]

F is ur skill, V is ur ultimate

[woven ingot]

Skill and Ultimate

[woeful bay]

oh yeah xD

makes sense, thank you

[woven ingot]

Would have been awesome if focus could stop the freeze. I vote for that

[woeful bay]

which heros are good with the Ice Lotus build?

[hidden creek]

everyone

the best would be those who could make use of moderation

which are viper, feria, tarka, yueshan, tessa

and prolly matari too with next update

[tacit nest]

whats mataris skill gonna be next update?

[hidden creek]

F changed into her pvp F2

which is good for element accumulation

[tacit nest]

huh?

[hidden creek]

which is good for mod

[tacit nest]

😭

in controller terms

[hidden creek]

the thrust

[fierce light]

This.

[tacit nest]

oooohhh shiiii

matari finna finally be good again

[woeful bay]

I got all six jades for the ice lotus build now and used all my blue jades to upgrade the sense level. What do I do now?

Should I look for the core sould jades of the other builds and then deconstruct all other purple and gold jades?

[fierce light]

Well if you have Ice Lotus build, you won't really need Poison Lotus build. But if it interests you, you can hold on to it.

For now can just focus on that one build.

[woeful bay]

okay, so everything else should be deconstructed?

[fierce light]

Yes.

[woeful bay]

Is that a burn build?

[fierce light]

Yeah Thunder Scorch. Main Hydroflare build used now.

[tacit nest]

bro is flying

[round glacier]

How you do that, keep defusing?

[hearty rivet]

@fierce light There are points when at more catchup points but preview window shows fewer souljades in the offer. I wonder if we get more golden souljades at those points.

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Ardiehime leveled up!

[fierce light]

Yeah I let mine stock up and got 6/28 Legendaries.

46 Souljade Fragments from 7415 Catch Up Points. So I got 62% of the Fragments I missed out on from below average drops.

[hearty rivet]

Ohh nice! This matches my numbers, we get +1 fragment per 160 catchup points (rounded down)

[hidden creek]

i got 4560 catchup points at 2055 fatigue

16 jades

[woven ingot]

Gimme some!

[hidden creek]

https://tenor.com/view/why-just-why-but-why-monkey-gif-18202838286539704455

[woven ingot]

Because i m cute? Nope.
Because i m average and upgrading my jades will help me more than you! <- that!! 😂

[hidden creek]

i use my last flux to imbue on my ice jades, got scorching

was rerolling it into a max attribute but because i'm also watching a movie at the same time

[fierce light]

Likely around 28 Souljade Fragments worth. So 4 Legendaries, 12 Epics.

[hidden creek]

i clicked confirm when it's not a max attribute

so i literally just throw away a flux

[woven ingot]

Ouch

How comes you still had a flux? Must be 3 weeks i didn’t saw one

[hidden creek]

from recasting and dissing trash jades

[woven ingot]

Oh. Can't wait for being at that point.

[hidden creek]

i should work on ilm value recast but it's depressing

[woven ingot]

That's what i'm still at ... But won't be looking for Flux until it's done.

I need to keep strong!

[late raptor]

@formal lark

[fierce light]

I'd say do those first cause any of the failed rares you can convert to max instead of trying to up the value manually.

[hidden creek]

well yeah if you haven't got 1 rare on each jade

some could even argue that it's better to never do value recast, just do recast on trash jades to get flux

not me though, can't even get one rare with 200 rolls

[woven ingot]

That's extremly RNG dependant. Not like the rest of the game wouldn't be. But hunting for flux to reroll your attributes to max that way, you must be confident in your luck.

[hidden creek]

yep

but i mean i know someone who got 3x rare jades from drops this week alone

so

[amber terrace]

noice

[woven ingot]

What do you mean? 3 rare jades from a run reward?

[hidden creek]

nah he got 3 runs which drops a jade with a rare on it

[fierce light]

If you're aiming for 2 rares in the end, then you'd want to save Value Recast till the end. Cause all those Scorchings on non-Scorching builds going to go away and Moderations on non-Moderation builds.

[woven ingot]

Ah, yeah, that I would like. I think I saw a rare attribute native to the Jade once...

It must feel good to drop such things.

[tacit nest]

you guys think lotus builds still gonna dominate next season or are they finna add new jades?

[hidden creek]

they will add new jades new builds that's for sure, but lotus builds won't be obsolete

and likely won't dominate either, well at least these current lotus builds won't

it's the tradition, new season new meta build will be better than previous season meta build

hydroflare best > new season tscroch best, but hydroflare still usable > new season mod lotus best, but tscorch still useable, even still the best on certain contents

the only one build that doesn't follows this tradition is poison lol

on the very season that it was introduced, it's not the meta build

[fierce light]

They just need to reduce the stacks for Toxin Blast down from 6 to 5 and it'll be competitive

[hidden creek]

yeah, on current settings

4 golds

[fierce light]

Yup 34 Fragments for 5530 Catch Up Points. Still around ~160 per Fragment.
You are 20.7 Fragments below the expected drop rate instead of 55.3

[tacit nest]

i sure hope so lol

ive poured everything into poison lotus

[fierce light]

Honestly this catch up system is showing how terrible the variance in this game is.

[woven ingot]

On the card screen, what does the blue flag stands for? Something Justice Chamber related?

[tacit nest]

top justice chamber

i think

[twin ledge]

Immortal war

[woven ingot]

Ah ok, I didn't thought about that one. Thanks.

[twin ledge]

Yea it seems they are ranked too in it

[heavy gulch]

yoo

can someone tell me one thing

successive ice blast is counting like 1 elemental burst or triple ?

[fierce light]

Triple in most cases.

[hidden creek]

immortal war ranking

justice chamber is the middle one

[woven ingot]

I knew the middle one was your Justice Chamber contribution, so I thought the blue was the Justice Chamber ranking.
Didn't thought about it being linked to Immortal War, as it felt like immortal War was something not that easy to reach, and more than half the people I randomly get in games got the blue flag.

[hidden creek]

there's something wrong with it i'm pretty sure

cuz sometimes it shows up on my loading screen to and i have never played a single match of IW

without the number tho

so i'm thinking prolly it will just shows up whenever IW is opening

[woven ingot]

Maybe the fact that you're eligible to participate in it is enough to get the flag? Even if you never went?

[hidden creek]

and disappear if it isn't

idk, don't really care so

[woven ingot]

Right you're only semi pvp-boy 😛

[hidden creek]

i'm a semi everything

[woven ingot]

ahah. Kinda sounds fun said like that.

[bronze wharf]

[woven ingot]

Nice try game.

[tacit nest]

what graphics card yall got

if your playing on pc?

[short meadow]

3060ti

[tacit nest]

you notice better quality or wha?

[short meadow]

Idk i have 100hz monitor. Usually I can't see any improvement

[tacit nest]

would wild windsprout go good for wuchen

for poison??

[wind light]

no

[fierce light]

Wild Windspout is terrible. Does less DPS than the Charged Horizontal even in its base form

[tacit nest]

wordddd

[ancient moss]

are rerolling rare stats completely random?

feels like ive rolled 200 times just to get 1

[ancient moss]

rip

[hearty rivet]

I know this is a controversial topic but kinda wish that normal grinding in game was like this week and past week or something very similar. I was able to casually use all my fatigue and now I have time to grind yama more and enjoy other aspects of the game like working on hero stories and whatnot as well as everything else adulting requires of me IRL without causing sleep deprivation, feeling like having a 2nd job or missing out/unable to progress. Also was able to use my precious souljade sets all the time, not only for a couple of enigma runs+yama.

[fierce light]

Yeah Nirriti's Ruins is cool and all, but it does suck not being able to use your builds. Also doesn't help they're adding so much clutter to the Anima Rings so it's getting harder to get a strong build going. The fact they also made Suffer No Demon 30/45 fatigue instead of 15 fatigue like last time is huge too. Not so many loading screens to go through and it didn't feel so bad when you get all blues cause you're not spending 6+ minutes to do it.

[turbid agate]

yeah thats the biggest let down of ruins, not being able to use your cool builds. straight wack. Also does any one actually use the range anima rings in ruins? I feel like they should just get rid of them.

[hearty rivet]

Yeah, it's nice to do nirriti now and then when one has the time but not 40-50 times per week, and they are so very time consuming. Even if timer at the end shows 6-7 minutes, it's like 15-20+ minutes of my life per run x.X

[sour wedge]

They work good with the musket.
Also the one that replenishes ammo on kill is really useful.

[fierce light]

It's decent with the Cannon, but yeah i dont think there should be so many of them for that collection.

[turbid agate]

oh nice then, but yeah im just not a fan of ranged weapons and never pick them, yet i get one of them, each time u can pick. Somtimes two or all three and thats super annoying lol

[lucid ore]

We almost exclusively run range to farm nirriti, range with cannon for mobs clear and musket for boss is very good.

Tho now with the new portal straight to boss maybe not as fast as before compare to a regular build

[tacit nest]

You think they’ll add new element to showdown

What if they add like a wind or air element

[twin ledge]

Ew

[hexed jungle]

farming together we stand on nightscream in NA anyone wana come help? i need thunder jades LOL

[lucid ore]

I've try this many times and no, you can't. Unless I'm doing something wrong.

The defuse would go thru and you'll have that small delay

[twin ledge]

Yea I’ve done it a lot

[hidden creek]

Musket is literally the worst ranged weapon in showdown, what are you even saying?

[twin ledge]

I don’t think it should be possible but it’s naraka it allows it sometimes

[twin ledge]

It’s possible

I’ll have to do it and send clip of it if I can get it right

[lucid ore]

I don't recall having able to do it, but I've had many moments with defusing on reflex and pressing counter at the same time. Let me see that clip!

[twin ledge]

Will have to wait I already got off naraka and playing genshin atm

But it’s def possible I don’t think it should be possible but naraka is so bugged

[twin ledge]

Wait we talking about attacks from bosses or what

[lucid ore]

Assuming a boss do a charge atk, and you defuse it then instantly counter

[twin ledge]

Oh if it’s boss its def possible

U just have to do like really fast

And decent ping

When I get on I’ll try to clip it

[lucid ore]

Where is EN's server at anyway.. my ping always 70+

[twin ledge]

Oh prob won’t be able to do it with 70 or more

Yama u might tho

Not the current stage out tho that rock boss is buggy asf for me some reason idk about anyone else tho

I’ll try it in training I guess I’ll be on in like 1 hour maybe

[lucid ore]

[woeful bay]

Is Matari the only character who has armor and hp regeneration in her kit? I think all the others have either armor or hp regen but not both?

[past solstice]

any suggestion build for cannon?

[lucid ore]

Nirriti? Everything that has dmg and less ammo, ignore everything with more ammo if possible

[past solstice]

no no not nirriti

jade and potential plan

[plain spire]

No range build

[granite marsh]

There's the poison one for cannon (Yueshan/Tarka)

[lucid ore]

Don't think there's a "viable" build, but if you REALLY want to do it, my guess is the ice lotus build, remove frozen blast for the ice version of any type of range

can't use infectious touch with poison for range no?

[granite marsh]

Thunder/Poison Cannon, Pestillent Pool, Miasma Drive, Noxious Blast, Toxified Lotus, Ghastbloom

[granite marsh]

Don't need it

You're outside pool most of the time anyways

I reckon ice version works too but i've ever only tried the poison variant

[lucid ore]

most dmg for boss is probably pistol?

[hidden creek]

just don't

you bring a ranged build anywhere outside of nirriti you're trolling

[hearty rivet]

Kurumi and Viper regenerates both too

[lucid ore]

maybe can speed up this event farming.. maybe

[hidden creek]

lol no

[lucid ore]

kinda one shot boss rn anyway right? only thing killing the timer is the waves

[hearty rivet]

I always shoot a couple of rounds at the beginning of SND while we stand in the circle and mobs are afar 😔

[granite marsh]

I always use ranged for immovable

I'm not running everywhere

[hidden creek]

even if you bring ranged build to immovable you still need to move

[granite marsh]

Barely

[hidden creek]

and loot the weapon repair kit

[granite marsh]

I just hug the 3 podiums

[hidden creek]

what immovable are you talking about? normal? lol

[hidden creek]

yeah which you can just bring poison lotus w/o last potential and afk the whole time

[granite marsh]

Eh suit yourself, it works for me

[hidden creek]

sure, if ur face skin is thick enough to let ur teammate carry u through the mission

lol

[granite marsh]

I'll record it for you the next time it appears in Doom, guaranteed top dps

Not the first time anyways

[hidden creek]

sure, if ur teammates sucks that hard

[granite marsh]

So salty for no reason

[hidden creek]

at least what i said make sense

[plain spire]

There's really no viable range build it's just a liability and of all range weapon only bow can deal decent dmg vs boss. Even in nitiri only bow can deal good dmg.

[timid stirrup]

with lotus builds this season i dont think a cannon build is needed for immovable.

[plain spire]

yah with just 1 charge on small monster triggerst elemental burst and the lotus explosion will do the job

[granite marsh]

true

[timid stirrup]

but i would like to see a cannon lotus build for immovable

[granite marsh]

I never tried the ice version

[woeful bay]

Are melee weapon jades bad or is just every jade from the pinned builds better?

[woeful bay]

thank you!

[wind light]

can have this suffer no demon mode permanently

[hexed jungle]

anyone want to come farm together we stand nightscream? NA or EU doesnt matter

[timid stirrup]

what is ur sense lvl? u should b able to solo that. pending hero/build. some easier than others

[hexed jungle]

its 937 but im bad lol i keep getting clipped

and poisen build im trying to farm thunder pull and thunder counter..

[hexed jungle]

Q.q

[timid stirrup]

oh 937 will make it a lil rough

[hexed jungle]

super

[timid stirrup]

do u have any might legendary choice gifts?

[hexed jungle]

200 fatigue left lol

nope

[timid stirrup]

what about legendary random gifts?

[hexed jungle]

zero gifts because i didnt understand before im on my 2nd week playing lol

[fierce light]

Viper Ning (Ultimate), Kurumi (Ultimate) & Yoto Hime (Ultimate).

[woeful bay]

Oh nice, thank you

[fierce light]

There's just not much room for them in the current builds. There's also the fact that they're hero specific, so they can be more expensive to work with. Aerial Rend is about the only one recommended since it's such a large DPS increase.

[wind light]

i recast on my trash jade to get a rare atttribute then i discard it, do it 2 times to get flux jade that i implement on the main jade. is that the correct method to do it ?

[fierce light]

Yes

[wind light]

thank you , i was wondering if i was doing right or wrong

[quaint girder]

Wait. YOU CAN GET FLUX JADES OUTSIDE OF REWARDS?

[fierce light]

Deconstructing a Souljade with a Rare Attribute gives 1 Flux Jade Shard per Rare.

[dapper gale]

for the 6000 dmg with a range weapon seasonal challenge, is it recommended to use a hero with a bow? or can i do it with most range if i have the right anima build

[wind light]

its easy

[chrome agate]

Easiest (not sure if any other can hit that hard) is Musket with some Range Rings

[wind light]

cannon or musket, full range anima rings you are good

remember stay near the mobs, ranged weapon have fall dmg

[fierce light]

Bow shoots 3 arrows, so it's actually harder to do. Best to use a single shot weapon like Musket or Cannon.

There's no fall-off damage in PvE. Once you reach a certain Hero Level.

[dapper gale]

sounds good

thank you

[wind light]

how many lotuses bloom if we use 444

[fierce light]

4 from Thunder Counter, 3 from Ice Blasts.

[wind light]

thats more than pure ice lotus

interesting

[fierce light]

Yes, but you trade it for:

• 45% faster accumulation rate
• +35% Ice Blast DMG
• +15% Attack
• 33% lower cooldown on Ice Blasts

[hidden creek]

https://youtu.be/nIzcz4SMKEw

ilm yueshan is really something else

i still dislike piloting this character though

[clever zenith]

hello guys is there any guide for the nirriti ruin ? on what to pick or what to foucus on?

[plucky hill]

Nice yueshan very strong this season im finished with ice in 4:06

[fierce light]

HydroFlare or Element primarily. Lotus on the side if Element.

[clever zenith]

what if i don't get any from the selection ?

[hidden creek]

roll for new rings, or just take whatever

[fierce light]

Get the highest rarity choice and hope it let's you discard it later. Or go for currency rings.

[clever zenith]

ok
another question sometimes it give me a book with no arrows some times it give me book with no arrow when selecting

which one should i choose

[fierce light]

Book with no arrow means you haven't gotten it before.

Book with arrow means you haven't gotten its upgrade before.

[clever zenith]

so the selection have to be book with no arrow and if that is not there then book with arrow

[hidden creek]

the book just indicate if you have collected all levels of the ring yet or not

[tacit nest]

😭 why ew

genuine question

@fierce light you think theyll add another element?

[fierce light]

Yeah they do every season

[tacit nest]

what did they add this season?

[fierce light]

Poison

[plucky hill]

Poison before this season

[woven ingot]

You're making me doubt of myself, but poison was already in game last season, wasn't it?

[plucky hill]

Lotus now

[lean yew]

poison wielding, ice wielding , thunder wielding , what is that meaning

[fierce light]

This is a half season. 2.5

1.5 they added Burn, a non-Element

[hidden creek]

don't think you could call it a ''half season''

they got their own names and bp and everything

just a weird way of numbering from the devs

also why does it even matters if there's gonna be new elements or not? i mean new stuffs is gonna come but before that you have 0 idea what it does anyway

the lotuses came out of nowhere, next season they probably let us throw rocks at bosses or something

[amber terrace]

[fierce light]

Call it a half season cause it's generally a lot less content released to hold us off till the next season. Korvine mission added in 1.5, Manticore mission added in 2.5. Entire chapters added during 1.0 and 2.0.

Also the minimum sense only increases on a full season.

[analog aspen]

Guys is there a reason to aim for a high ranking in doom speedrun?

[tacit nest]

i thought itd be cool idk

we got poison ice and thunder rn

i guess i meant more main element

my bad lol

[hidden creek]

well i don't mean anything
but like, let's say for the bosses's design, we know that they follows the chinese 5 basic elements theory which are metal, wood, water, fire, earth, based on that i made a correct guess about omnius bough before he's even here, that his appearance and skills will be based on the wood element

cuz wood is the last elements that is lacking

but the jades elements and builds, they doesn't follows any pattern lol, so it's quite impossible to make a guess about what's coming next and what it does

[lean yew]

which is the best option

[fierce light]

There's a specific title for the top 10. You're pretty much guaranteed a title though just for completing it and the legendary Souljade reward is given out to like the top 500 iirc.

[analog aspen]

ok thx, getting top 500 on eu shouldn't be too hard

top 10 is a different story though

[fierce light]

Depends on your Souljades

[lean yew]

this is my souljade

so i add ice option?

[lean yew]

thanks

[tacit nest]

interesting for sure

[fierce light]

Next Omnius form was hinted at in-game, can't remember what they called it, but it's sounding like a final form.

Not really a set element for it, so the next one could be anything. Definitely going to need a bigger potential tree though

[hidden creek]

probably will be all 5 elements fusioned into one

[fierce light]

There's still potential for them to add elemental reactions

Since there's +1 Element-Wielding, could allow +1 of something else or up to +2

[lucid ore]

not enough sj slots, maybe revamp the system so you can add more than 6 but only 6 will have substats.

[fierce light]

Yeah they would have to combine some Souljades together

These Souljade sets are getting too large

[lucid ore]

Is the only way to play burn now is with thunder/scorching counter?

[hidden creek]

this is what i was thinking also
they could make the sj page like the potential page

with 1 core jade or a base thingy at the center and 3 sub jades around it

then 2 sub jades for each of the 3 first sub jades

so we get 9-10 jades per setup, with some senseful restriction like if you equipped an ice jade the other one also must be ice

[lucid ore]

That sound very nice, will allow for so many other ways to play too. Now I can finally put cyan fang on everyone

[fierce light]

Defuse HydroFlare still works. Just mainly for bossing.

[lucid ore]

I miss Skyfire, looking at it occasionally lol.

[hidden creek]

ye the flaming nados sure looks nice

[fierce light]

Skyfire was always behind in dps, it's just more exaggerated now with the changes to the potential tree.

[lucid ore]

The satisfaction when it procs

[fierce light]

They just need to add Underwater Draco Souljade so Wuchen could use it

[lucid ore]

Underwater draco? like when he use aegis atk he applies soak?

[fierce light]

Yes

Draco Stride is really awkward on him

[hidden creek]

last season and this season was awkward for wuchen

tscorch and lotus both want you to hug the boss while wuchen don't want that

[fierce light]

TScorch is fine since he can do his usual attacks and his attacks come out pretty quick to get the double counter.

[hidden creek]

yeah but you need to hug the boss if you want to proc 2x scorchings but wuchen don't want that cuz his aegis break skill doesn't do full hit if he's too close to target

[fierce light]

I don't have any clips, but you can close the gap pretty fast with him for it.

[hidden creek]

still make it awkward

[fierce light]

You'll just have to dash back after the 2nd counter

[wind light]

is there a reason why we dont grab lotus impact dmg on green tree

does the 10% stack with iceblast dmg ?

[fierce light]

It increases your overall damage by around 5% at max build so the higher your Attack is the lower the value of Aroma Aura.

Can swap it out for Epiphany if you prefer it

[fickle linden]

what a week rng wise

3 windfalls and 1 mod 🤩

[woven ingot]

Someone got extra lucky. Congrats 🙂

[fickle linden]

for once. future weeks not gonna be as nice, now i need fluxes to get the last 3 rares

tbh i only really need 1 rare more if it would be mod 🙏

[woven ingot]

So now you got more stats than me, you gonna carry me around!! 😛

[fickle linden]

you can only carry so much with build, i still need skills too 😩 🤣

[woven ingot]

That comes with training.

[fickle linden]

got some decent training against korvine this week in enigma peak but i feel like my build still carries me there

next week im doing it alot more since the event is gonna end soon

this week i just did it for the season challenge points

[woven ingot]

On another subject, I really don't mind carrying the two other people on Suffer no Demon, as long as they just move around and play. But people who wait to be resurrected when they die ... we got 2 free revives, it's faster to use them rather than someone having to full res you -.-
And when you got 15+ monsters on the field, all allowed for spamming blue attacks and jumps because it's the event ... it's terrible. Chance to res someone: 10%, time used for it 20sec. Chance to die because purple focus jumps tri-shot you: quite high 😂

[fickle linden]

yeah i've never seen anyone die twice during the fight so it's not like you need to save your resurrects 👀

[woven ingot]

Peak is a great place to learn bosses for sure. Topaz works fine too. In Peak you're supposed to already know the bosses, as they will hit hard and the fights are long. Topaze is way more leniant for that.

[fickle linden]

ahh, i got them mixed up again. i meant topaz, the easier one since the harder one you need party and i don't wanna ruin other peoples run just yet 💀

wish it had solo option like the other does

[woven ingot]

I thought it was Topaze. No way that you would say "my build carries me in Peak" as even perfect build can't really carry you there 😂

Yeah I'd like it to have a solo option too, even if there is no reward, but a kinda "training ground" option.
You can still go solo just to feel the difference in tankiness. But you won't reach the latest bosses to train against them.

[fickle linden]

or just free training area where you can train any boss you want

that's the dreeam

[fierce light]

Yeah that first one was cursed cause if any Elite monster was throwing a Focus attack, it would clash with yours even if you weren't close to it. That plus the fact the lightning around you would weaken the mobs so much that they would die before the element proc'd.

[woven ingot]

That would be great too. You can somewhat do that with the NS story bosses. You don't have access to the Eerie variant, but can at least train against the normal one you'll meet most of the time.

[fierce light]

The later Yama's Abyss levels will be good for learning the Eerie variants since they will be solo instead of multiple enemies.

[woven ingot]

Yep, when my skill doesn't proc and i have to switch to Charged attacks to trigger an elemental blast and get my skill back I sometimes see weird things. Like clashes on mobs that are like 5m away and not even targetting me. Or clashing with a mob jumping on me but still 10 m away in the air. I guessed it was something about the latency in the event, but it feels strange sometimes.
And when you reach 15+ monsters alive and try to get your Charged attack to hit, it's sometimes quite a challenge.

[woven ingot]

There is still at least a 6 bosses stages left isn't it?

[fierce light]

We still have Aureate, Void/Beast, Korvine, Bough & Manticore left.

[woven ingot]

I'm at the point where nearly all my stats are close to max, and maxing them will cost an arm and be a loss of a part of the upgrade. So I'm feeling like trying to produce some rare attributes on throwaway Jades.
And I'm wondering: can we have a rare attribute on a blue Jade? Or does it need to be at least epic?

[fierce light]

Can't recast Blue Jades iirc.

Nor can you Deconstruct them.

[woven ingot]

Ah right, it's as simple as that 😂

[woven ingot]

I meant, there are still multi bosses stages to be had, right? Last season it was ... Paragon 5 I think that had 6 bosses or something like that.

[fierce light]

Well Paragon 3 technically has 6 if you include Rock's 4 phases and the 2 Corpse Monsters.

[woven ingot]

I think I get how you meant your sentence. There are still Eerie bosses to meet, and they will always be solo bosses. Which doesn't mean there won't be any more multi bosses stages.

[fierce light]

Don't remember having any with 6 different Main Bosses.

[woven ingot]

Damn for minute I was like "Thanks!! No more multi bosses stages! My dream is coming true!!!".
I couldn't pass Paragon 3 last season, so I don't know for sure. Simply that a friend told me "don't complain about Paragon 3, Paragon 5 has 6 bosses!!"

[cyan grove]

Hello, I need help, my poison build is currently (in terms of red attributes) Windfall x1, Scorching x2 and Moderation x6

I still have 2 Flux jades

Moderation is way too common as compared to Windfall for whatever reason

I don't know if I should use my flux jade to convert a moderation or not

[woven ingot]

The way to do it really depends on how your Jades are, stat-wise.
You can recast the Mod into something else if the others stats are max or close to max.

If not, you'll recast the Mod normally, trying to get any normal attribute to max/close to max. And use the flux to recast a bad/medium other attribute.

[fierce light]

You'll have Trios to help you soon anyway, might be able to reach the pinnacle.

I hope there is a new rank past Paragon though, as Paragon 11+ would just be redundant.

[woven ingot]

That's planned for next season right?

[cyan grove]

yeah, the problem is all my other stats are atk and psn blast dmg and they're all close to max

[woven ingot]

If so it's the easy way, you recast the Mod directly ^^

[fierce light]

Nah that was on the test server already

[fierce light]

For your jades with only 1 rare, try to recast them into a different one or a max attribute. Then when you get one that you want ([Windfall]) you can use the Flux Jade on it.

[woven ingot]

Oh, so we may have something new to do in the next weeks.

[cyan grove]

So, I could turn scorching into max atk, the jade will then have 0 rare attribute. After that, use a flux jade on it?

[fierce light]

No, only use Flux Jades for the 2nd Rare on a Souljade with a Rare that you want on it already.

[cyan grove]

oh ok

so I'll have to reroll the jade with no rare attribute, till i get one

I thought bout flux jade on a rare attribut to give me 1/2 chance to get windfall

[bright skiff]

How to clear fatigue
Cos I have exceeded the fatigue accumulation

[timid stirrup]

fatigue resets on wednesday

[bright skiff]

Ooh thanks

[fierce light]

Pretty much have to think about Flux Jades as equivalent to 2 Rare Attributes. It's not worth using it to reroll a single Rare Attribute when you can still do it through normal Recasting. Otherwise you're going to spend 4+ Rare Attributes trying to complete a jade when you could've only needed 3.

[cyan grove]

I see, okay thank you!

Also, isn't a +25% Moderation supposed to give me better chances to get a nearly max stat?

I'm getting atk +1%, or 0.8% and such when I recast it

[fierce light]

It's random from Rares.

[snow forum]

anyone wanna play naraka or just hang out in voice chat

[round sonnet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjBMNGyGclg

[fierce light]

Beautiful!

Oh that attack at 3:03 is digusting, never seen it use that.

[lapis sundial]

Could use a 3rd for all the dooms if anyone's free and wants to help 😶

[fierce light]

Still need it?

[lapis sundial]

Somewhat yes we did 1 and on 2

[fierce light]

Alright, getting on

[lapis sundial]

Tysm

[woeful bay]

What does luck do in showdown?

[woven ingot]

Short form: if you re about Jades, then nothing worth.

If you re about para 3, then: horrible place i agree

[woeful bay]

what is the long form? It must have some effect, right?

[restive wraith]

finally have an upgrade from Suffer No Demon

[woven ingot]

Yes, luck increase the chance for your soulJades rewards to be of better quality.

But it's pretty much non significant, and if you want to do it on your Jades that means you'll lose stats and it's not worth it.
For keys, yes it's worth using a gold key instead of a normal one.

[restive wraith]

have a party of 3 to use 3 gold keys too ^

[woeful bay]

thank you a lot for the explanation!

[spice canyon]

just don't expect too much with luck

[verbal axle]

I am running the same jade setup as Wangmo and was wondering why this tree grabs the 10% attack boost from Aroma Aura instead of pathing to the 40% Lotus impact damage from Epiphany?

Is the 10% attack boost more consistent DPS compared to having 40% higher damage from your lotus impacts?

[fierce light]

https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1329962510350291094

[fierce light]

Lotus Impact does about ~7% of the damage of the full burst you can do with Successive Ice Blast and Ghastbloom. When mobbing Lotus Impact Dmg is pretty irrelevant due to the amount of bursts you can do. When bossing though this may differ, depending on how much you hug the boss, but you also have to consider the damage from non-Ice Blast DMG.

Pretty much the higher your stats, the lower the value of Aroma Aura, but in most cases it'll be a larger increase.

[verbal axle]

I see, thank you

[obsidian maple]

anyone enigma poison eu ? ID: 294200070166

[woeful bay]

@fierce light @hidden creek What should I know about recasting before I spent all my savings there?

[hidden creek]

what did you know already?

[woeful bay]

it can somehow change attributes I think

and the maxing goes potentially down

like 200 armor turns into sth worse

[hidden creek]

erm

no

[woeful bay]

oh

[hidden creek]

attributes retain value when you do attribute recasting

[woeful bay]

that's great

[hidden creek]

so let's say you got 200 armor (maxed) if you roll it in to attack you'll get 4% (maxed)

[fierce light]

4. If you have a large stockpile of Recasting materials, go for your first rares first on your lowest Attribute instead of trying to get the ones you want and spend your non-Rare selection Recasts to get what you want.
5. If you get a Rare Attribute you don't want, you can recast it until either a non-Rare Attribute at max % appears or a Rare Attribute you do want appears.

[hidden creek]

so you should get a jade with good % to begin recasting

[woeful bay]

yes, I sorted through all, took the best and deconstructed everything else

What is considered a "rare" attribute?

[hidden creek]

windfall, moderation, scorching

[woeful bay]

ty

[fierce light]

They're surrounded by brackets [] and appear in red.

[hidden creek]

for example this is a good jade for recasting

it got 1 maxed stat and 1 high value stat

now what i gonna do is i gonna recast the defuse trigger recovery, because it got the lowest value

then during my recasting for rare, when i reached the recast pity (that i can choose to change one attribute into a diff, non-rare attribute of my choice)

i'll change reduce dmg from boss to ice blast dmg

since it's a maxed stat (5%/5%) when i turn it into ice blast dmg it'll also be a maxed (30% ice blast dmg)

[woeful bay]

this one

[hidden creek]

yes

then just repeat the process

until you got a rare

now if it's a rare that you want (in this case mod/windfall)

then you take it

if it's a rare that you don't want (scorching) then you also take it, but then reroll that rare into a maxed attribute

[woeful bay]

does the defuse triggers recovery +60 somehow get better value wise?

[hidden creek]

you mean how to increase it?

[woeful bay]

yes

[hidden creek]

yeah you can, with value recasting, but it gonna cost alot of materials

[woeful bay]

that is sth else than the recasting we talk about?

[hidden creek]

there's attribute recasting and value recasting

value recasting is painful so we avoid it if we could

[woeful bay]

these two?

[hidden creek]

yeah

[woeful bay]

I should focus on attribute recasting first?

[hidden creek]

yes

show me the jade you're about to recast

[woeful bay]

should I use a shrouded jade on it first?

[hidden creek]

do you have a shrouded jade

3 of them i mean

[woeful bay]

4

[hidden creek]

open a new opt

ur jade got 2 good value stats

[woeful bay]

like this?

[hidden creek]

yeah

actually wait

this is the only sub zero seal you got?

[hidden creek]

DAMN

[woeful bay]

yes, I deconstructed all others

[hidden creek]

ok, leave it, don't recast it for now

[fierce light]

Lol even the right attribute

[hidden creek]

IKR HAHAHA

what else you got?

[woeful bay]

should I do the gold or purple jades first?

[hidden creek]

doesn't matters

[hidden creek]

ok this one you can recast the defuse trigger recovery

[hidden creek]

damn that's a nice base jade

[woeful bay]

with these or the gold ones?

[hidden creek]

recast reduce dmg from non-boss
you get the idea

[hidden creek]

doesn't matters, gold one is outdated

now its usage is the same with the blue one

[hidden creek]

keep recasting until a rare appear

[woeful bay]

I do this until I get an attribute in the pinned build

[hidden creek]

no, until you get a rare

[fierce light]

Keep an eye on the recast pity though

[hidden creek]

yep
when you reached recast pity, use it to change [increase melee weapon damage] into [ice blast damage]

you can use the recast pity selection for a diff jade too

[woeful bay]

also recasting recommended attributes?

[hidden creek]

no just aim for rare first

don't recast the melee weapon damage opt, if you got a rare on it you lose a maxed attribute

[fierce light]

You don't want the non-Rares on the lowest attribute

[woeful bay]

I'm now at pity

[hidden creek]

do this

[woeful bay]

what do I choose?

ice blast dmg?

[hidden creek]

ice blast dmg, this jade is for ur ice lotus build right?

[woeful bay]

yes

[hidden creek]

then ice blast dmg it is

[hidden creek]

confirm

[woeful bay]

got it

[hidden creek]

then back to recast the attack opt

looking for a rare

[hidden creek]

you'll need to open a 4th opt before recasting this one

this jade of your got 3 high value attributes on it

[woeful bay]

so I need 3 shrouded jades again?

[hidden creek]

open a 4th see if it's a low value attribute then recasting it

[hidden creek]

yes

[woeful bay]

got moderation

[hidden creek]

good sht

very nice

https://tenor.com/view/trump-trump-2024-maga-the-donald-donald-trump-gif-5733371666398431239

[woeful bay]

up to next jade?

[hidden creek]

yep

[woeful bay]

recasting melee resist until rare?

[hidden creek]

hmm

melee resist is 2.6/4

[woeful bay]

or no depletion here?

[hidden creek]

which is 65%

which is not bad

[hidden creek]

yeah recast this one

[woeful bay]

what do I do?

[hidden creek]

take it ofc

damn that's some luck u have

[woeful bay]

which jade now?

[hidden creek]

move on to next jade

just repeat the process, you got the idea

[woeful bay]

okay, thanks a lot!

[hidden creek]

gl

[woeful bay]

Can I use pity to change windfall into moderation?

[verbal axle]

What is the difference between % melee weapon damage and % attack?
Does % attack scale melee, ranged (and maybe abilities?) and the other only melee weapons?

[hidden creek]

can't, pity only allows you to select a non-rare attribute

DO NOT do that
if you want mod on that jade but you got windfall, you need to recast that windfall into a max attribute, make the jade have 0 rare THEN recast the lowest % attribute on that jade into a new rare looking for a mod, but this is the very last step of finishing your jades set, not what you want to do now

[hidden creek]

attk % scales with everything

melee dmg only melee weapon attacks dmg, and it's way worse than attack % because most of our damages don't comes from melee weapon attacks

[verbal axle]

Thank you

[woeful bay]

Can purple jades get rare attributes?

[hidden creek]

yes

[woeful bay]

Should I start recasting melee resis here? I got a rare attribute on the four other besides the Sub-Zero Seal where you told me to get another attribute first

@hidden creek

[rotund frigate]

which optional souljade is the best for ice lotus build?

[timid stirrup]

thats 65% so its still a decent % for an attribute

u would prolly wanna unlock 4th stat b4 rr that attribute

[hidden creek]

if i were you i'll wait until i can open a 4th stat

to see if it got lower value than the melee resist opt

but in the end if you're aiming for (and can afford) 2 rares per jade then it doesn't matters

you can reroll the melee resist now looking for a rare, then when you got shrouded jades open the 4th stat and use flux to make it a rare

[fierce light]

It varies depending on the hero and the situation.

• Arcane Thunder is really effective at mobbing, particular against small mobs as it can activate Ice Blast from a distance.
• Frozen Blast is a notable increase in DPS for Moderation builds against Single-Targets.
• Element Souljades are good for heroes who don't benefit from Moderation.
• Yushan Shadows & Cinderfrost are both crutch Souljades for those not comfortable handling the self-freeze.

[woeful bay]

Thank you, will do that!

[hearty rivet]

Is it just me or in the "The beginning" story mission English voices are a bit off? O.o

[analog aspen]

It's been a while since I've played that one so hard to say

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Mysto leveled up!

[analog aspen]

but I have noticed that the voices in general are a bit off sometimes

is there a way to make this build more suitable for yamas abyss?

I thought about adding defuse heal or smth

I'm struggling for more than 2 hours on paragon 1 now

[fickle linden]

it took me 4 hours to get a kill on it

with that exact build

[analog aspen]

I'm also not sure which hero to use

[fickle linden]

not sure what's best i used tessa

i needed that chain defuse

[analog aspen]

I feel like I can only use defuse to dodge an attack but never to dmg the boss as he always just hits me back while I use the defuse attack

[hidden creek]

what hero are you using

[analog aspen]

wuchen

[hidden creek]

erm

prolly just replace miasma drive with arcane thunder and go with feria/tessa instead

[analog aspen]

is the thunderbolt so strong that it makes a noticable difference?

[hidden creek]

it allow you to proc poison blast with just one skill and one charge attack

w/o it you gonna need 1 skill and 2 charge attacks to proc poison blast

[analog aspen]

well, that sounds good xD

[hidden creek]

oh wait it's for mod build though

[analog aspen]

I probably give it a try and see how it goes

[hidden creek]

if you don't have 75% mod and up on this build, prolly just stick to miasma drive

[analog aspen]

I have only 50%mod atm

[cursive kestrel]

paragon 1 was that fire dude hell scorch?

[analog aspen]

yeah

[cursive kestrel]

that built is fine but try adding some defuse recovery to gain some health back too, he is one of the most easiest bosses to fight against

[fierce light]

You can use Defuse • Solidification or Solidification in Miasma Drive's place. It'll proc Poison Blast in one less Aegis-Break Skill.

Not that big of a difference, so you can do whatever. Just practice against it.

[analog aspen]

defuse solidification also sounds like a very good jade

but I probably just try to get better

[woeful bay]

How do I "dodge" the frost penalty from the build up? I tried to use f or V at the same time when it proc but I didn't got it right yet.

[woven ingot]

It's with your skill or ultimate. When you start to see the animation of the freeze, you use your skill. It will prevent you from freezing.

[woeful bay]

Do you perhaps have a video?

[woven ingot]

I don't, but Dark or Tabbie probably have.

You can train for it in the training island. As you won't be attacked there so you can watch closely the animation to get used to it.

[formal lark]

but It doesnt work with all champions

only with gold focus f or v

[woven ingot]

I think it doesn't work with Tarka from what I heard. Probably not with Matari either, not sure for Wuchen, I don't think he got yellow focus when casting his skill.

[woeful bay]

Oh, yeah I only played Matari

Thank you!

[woven ingot]

Look closely, but I don't think she turns in a yellowish color when she uses her skill. Meaning it won't stop the freeze from happening.

[woeful bay]

yeah, it doesn't work with matari

but I got it first try with Tianhai

[lusty prism]

Anyone need a 3rd for showdown? I maxed out my fatigue lol but I play for fun 🤷🏾‍♂️

[fierce light]

Yeah part of the reason I went for Poison build instead.

[woeful bay]

you are telling me that NOW? xD

[lusty prism]

I had someone ask me was I using poison build glitch like is there one? Lol

[woeful bay]

what heros are good with ice lotus build?

[fierce light]

They all are to an extent. Just not a fan of being forced to use my Ability or Ultimate when it may not be ideal.

Heroes with a hard hitting ability are better with it though. Like Viper, Yueshan, Feria, Tarka and Tessa.

[woeful bay]

should I still try to dodge the frost effect with an ability or just eat it?

[lusty prism]

It works with Valda too

[hidden creek]

you always want to avoid it ofc

but in reality sometimes you just couldn't

[woeful bay]

aight, got it. Thank you!

[hidden creek]

or just play yueshan and never get frozen

[woeful bay]

which char do you play with ice lotus solo?

[signal kite]

I never play solo

[hidden creek]

chars that poison lotus build is not good on them

well i only play viper feria tessa these days tbh, sometime dipping on wuchen/yoto/yueshan

[woeful bay]

is it possible to dodge the ice with viper and tessa f?

[hidden creek]

yes

their V too

[woeful bay]

that's all I needed

[fierce light]

Depends on the situation. I'd say be careful on having Ice Blast on cooldown when you're about to freeze.

[woeful bay]

how I do see wether it's on cd?

[hidden creek]

rly looking forward to try yoto after the gs buff

[fierce light]

There'll be a snowflake symbol by the boss's health bar on the right.

GS buff going to make them viable in Nirriti's Ruins at least

[hidden creek]

ew nirriti

[fierce light]

Aerial Rend isn't going to be necessary for them to be good.

[hidden creek]

we can select 3 of the same hero in nirriti right

been so long since last time i ran with someone

💀

[woven ingot]

Look who's happy? You'll be able to do more Nirriti!

[hidden creek]

EWWWW

[woven ingot]

And you can have the same hero in Hard, I'm not sure about NS+

[hidden creek]

who farm ns anyway

💀

[woven ingot]

Not me at least. Once the season challenges are done I'm not going there unless someone needs help.
I got a PTSD after being poisoned every 30 seconds in every map.

[flat smelt]

+1 9k luck sv sea

[fierce light]

Yeah you can, although don't think you will be in Yama's Abyss

[flat smelt]

+1 enigma 9k luck

[woven ingot]

It would be surprising in Yama. Competitive modes usually don't allow multiple selection of the same hero. And it would probably break some fights if they let us do it.
Triple Yueshan ignoring Manticore special coming to mind.

[tacit nest]

Wish there was some more ways to get flux jades

Like maybe challenges for em

Besides the two in the passes

[flat smelt]

use xlixir and pass all boss in enigma mode

i got around 50 jade in once run

[placid prairie]

guys what build are you using for tessa?

[fierce light]

She works well with pretty much any of the meta builds rn.

[chrome seal]

Quick matches do allow same heros on team

[tiny latch]

lf1 nirriti legend

[heavy gulch]

which server? i can help you only at EU

[tiny latch]

NA

[heavy gulch]

then i cant

sorry

[tiny latch]

np ty

[fierce light]

Still need 1?

[vestal hill]

і

[tiny latch]

Just cleared sry

[wind light]

what happen when we have trios yama abyss

there will be someone will clear trios yama in short period

[fierce light]

Yeah like Doom Speedrun

[wind light]

also he is alone

[wind light]

i know its you, you gonna speedrun trios yama

💀

[fierce light]

Idk, depends if I can get a team together and how hard it is

[wind light]

last season was paragon 10 isnt

[fierce light]

Yeah

[fathom bobcat]

Leaderboard is made by character, so no identical heroes.
Huh, so glad developers after only 4 months decided to bring back something they needlessly cut out before.

[wind light]

i think the leader board filter by character is good

some people good at a certain hero

others dont

now they merge

so thats mean top 500 is hard to achieve now

[fathom bobcat]

Of course, I know that once upon a time, even before the advent of season in PvE, for speedrun leaderboard consisted of the results of specific teams rather than individual characters. But I don't think that's coming back.

[fathom bobcat]

For any server other than CN? No. Showdown is played by too few people for it to be difficult for you, if you wish.

[spice canyon]

Only CN and SEA is competitive, rest assured if you are outside of it

[fierce light]

Don't think there are even 500 people on the board, outside of CN

[wind light]

im in SEA so its very competitive here

[wind light]

i tried NA when i was in vacation and surprised that i achieved top 50 with paragon 1-2

[fathom bobcat]

I know you have top 2 servers in terms of competitiveness (after CN). But I don't believe it's hard to get into the top 500.

[wind light]

lets hope that after the merge im still in top 500

hahaa

[fathom bobcat]

What's the problem? There will be a separate top for trios and a separate top for solos, as I understand it.

[spice canyon]

Yes

[wind light]

oh yeah i forgot the trios leaderboard

i know why they merge the board

1 person right now can take 1 slot in each different hero board

so the merge will take "best of" 1 person record

seem fair

[fathom bobcat]

Well yeah, and he'll get two achievements at the end of season. Solo is a solo, trio is a trio.

[wind light]

💀

[woeful bay]

I opened a 4th opt but it's also decent. What should I do with it now?

[wind light]

recast armor into ice blast because its the closest max attribute

then you just spam recast to the lowest attribute

until you got rare attribute

btw i suggest recast armor value to max

[wind light]

then recast it to ice blast

[wind light]

this is the perfect dream jade

[fickle linden]

i did some random low level yama boss with yoto hime for lulz and got like rank 40 with that

i dont know if there is even 10 people in EU who did the latest yama boss with yoto yet

[woeful bay]

is charged dmg to aegis the lowest?

[hidden creek]

Just keep doing what you've been doing

[woeful bay]

so recasting dmg to aegis?

[hidden creek]

https://percentagecalculator.net/

Use this

[woeful bay]

okay, thank you

[wind light]

this skin lowkey should be in showdown store

the yellow crystal look like from showdown boss

[warped falcon]

Yea looks very much like the spear from the previous battlepass

[wind light]

thats what im talking about

[fierce light]

There won't be a merge, you'll have a different rank for Trios and Solo Yama's.

[wind light]

yes i forgot the trios board , i thought they make it simple from all heroes board into only 1 board

[sly kestrel]

anyone can go Doom in eu server?

[chrome seal]

The rockfall slash GS attack getting buffed tomorrow - is it vertical or horizontal attack?

[hidden creek]

can't you just check it in game?

[fierce light]

Vertical Attack. Storm Slash is getting buffed too, so both Charged Attacks.

[chrome seal]

Oh I just noticed it applies to some storm slash as well

[fierce light]

The way they listed them in the notes don't line up with how I have them in the Spreadsheet, so I'll have to do some quick retesting when it's live to see which is which.

It looks like for Poison though you'd still want Aerial Rend, but for Ice you can get away without it.

[cursive kestrel]

[chrome seal]

I mean generally I obviously could but am at work rn
Besides, isn't asking this kinda questions is basically the purpose of this chat?
It's not like everyone else only asks super advanced questions here

[hidden creek]

i mean i asked if it doesn't shows in game (cuz they sometime just doesn't appear anywhere)

and i'm not using english client so idk if the attack name is the same that's why i ask the question

[chrome seal]

Whoopsie then
In that case idk. That info might be somewhere in narakapedia(not sure what exactly it's called) in the game
There's a place that shows attacks combos and it probably has those names

[hidden creek]

yeah i mean i'm not nitpicking why didn't you check it yourself lol, sorry if my phrasing sounded like i'm implying that

[chrome seal]

Yeah my bad too

[hidden creek]

but because showdown sj got weird names, i mean some of the element wielding jade is just the name of the move itself while some of them are the pvp sj name

[chrome seal]

True

[bold ice]

Since nobody replied, I can help in around an hour if you're still in need

[sly kestrel]

Thx 😊 but I went to sleep 😴

Was searching for 15 min didn't find any match haha

If you are still available tell me

[woven ingot]

Tabbie being all cute and nice. Something is wrong!!

[bold ice]

can hop on now

[hidden creek]

[placid prairie]

anyone playing with tessa?

[timid stirrup]

most ppl playing tessa here

[placid prairie]

could you tell me witch build, since im using poison lotus on my main viper

[fierce light]

Poison Lotus is better on her than Viper

[placid prairie]

then what is better for viper?

[signal kite]

[hidden creek]

mod ice lotus

[placid prairie]

crap i dont have it

[gaunt yoke]

What is the best way to max attributes? I'm kinda sick of value recasting 200 times to get a 0.5 stat increase =/

[hidden creek]

select a jade with good value to start recasting

but if it's the jade you're using and you don't have a replacement

value recast is kinda the only way

[timid stirrup]

or attribute recast for a rare if u dont have any on there and then recast the rare into a max stat then change max stat into the attribute u want when hitting pity

[gaunt yoke]

is it better to use rare for max stats or for flux shards? i usually destroy rares i dont want into flux shards?

[timid stirrup]

flux shards usually cuz its the only way to get a 2nd rare on a jade

but if u get a rare u dont want on 1st/only rare qu can change it into a max stat. just takes awhile

i did that last season on a build. i kept getting scorching which i didnt want so i rr'd scorching into a max stat. then i ended up with 3 max stats on the jade until i finally got a rare i wanted. which hurt to use flux jade/shards oon a max stat but i did it anyway

[gaunt yoke]

oh okay thx 👍

[placid prairie]

i saw on ranked viper also use scortching i think

[fierce light]

If you have 2 max stats then probably can just reroll it into whatever if you're aiming for 2 rares.

[woven ingot]

[hidden creek]

well yeah tsorch is still viable for everyone

[timid stirrup]

i was working on a mod build last season so the scorching was useless to me

[hidden creek]

it's funny how i completely forgot what's the old recast system was like

iirc you use the jade with high values, right attributes as material

and recast

and if you're lucky that attribute will appear on your using jade

[woven ingot]

It was kinda mixing two Jades into one if I got it right.

[hidden creek]

yea

one as material and one as target jade

[woven ingot]

Wasn't it even worse for min maxing your Jades?

[hidden creek]

honestly idk

probably yeah

i barely play showdown back then

[fierce light]

Yeah, was just saying don't waste extra recasts trying to get it maxed

[fierce light]

Yes, getting 2 maxed attributes were pretty much impossible. 2+ rares wasn't possible either

[timid stirrup]

that makes sense

[woven ingot]

The maintenance is this evening? That feels weird, it's usually some hours after the reset on Wednesday.

[placid prairie]

is it possible to copy paste others accesories? ( i mean the charracter how it looks like)

[woven ingot]

I think I saw a "import/export"option somewhere. But I believe it's more about the face preset, not the acc part.

[hearty rivet]

Really? I should get home in time then I suppose ^^;;;
But the Lannie trailer shows Jan 20th, so

[lone umbra]

I guess it is the chinese new year date. That is why early update

Not sure though entirely

[fickle linden]

yeah

🎉

[sly kestrel]

Sry bro smth came up that's why couldn't respond

[fading elm]

Anyone willing to assist with yamas abyss? I'm NA

[timid stirrup]

yama's is still solo

[fierce light]

When this evening?

[fading elm]

oh is it solo only?

oops

[woven ingot]

Maybe I failed something, but in game there was a message saying maintenance the 20/01 23h-4h GMT

[fierce light]

Surprised there's no patch notes yet is all

[hidden creek]

well it's earlier than usual but that's it

nothing is wrong

[hidden creek]

patch note is out

HAHA

[fierce light]

Oh just came out 10 minutes ago

[hidden creek]

can't wait to try rhino matari instead of mosquito matari

[fierce light]

Don't understand why they nerfed Toxin Blessing

[hidden creek]

probably they don't want to see few of the omens they put in the game being useless

[fierce light]

Funny that Poison builds are going to be the most vulnerable to it now

[hidden creek]

yeah

can't eat as many mushrooms as i want to anymore

[fierce light]

It already didn't have a way to get rid of corruption at the first tier...

Wtf

[hidden creek]

but hey they got new effect which reduce dmg taken from toxified by 35%

[woeful bay]

Does doom reset weekly?

[fickle linden]

yes

[woeful bay]

ty; and it is a trios mode?

[fickle linden]

yea

[woeful bay]

can it be done solo? bc the queue is rly long

[hidden creek]

if ur build allows you to

[woeful bay]

got the ice lotus build on 882 atm

[hidden creek]

882?

sense level?

[woeful bay]

sense level

ye

[hidden creek]

what wait

how come you haven't maxed

[woeful bay]

I used all blue jades to upgrade these six jades

I just don't have that many I think

[hidden creek]

😂 oh god

wait

i mean

[woeful bay]

did I do sth wrong?

[hidden creek]

you're not fusing them to get purple/gold jade right?

[woeful bay]

no

[hidden creek]

huh

[woeful bay]

don't even know how to do that

[hidden creek]

that's strange