👾┃showdown

[hidden creek]

jokes on you i'm korvine phase 2

[woven ingot]

It's mainly the pet who lift her. As for dropping it on random people ... said pet seems too clearly enjoy it WAY too much from my point of view.

[hidden creek]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-funny-laugh-baby-cute-gif-1231826826475224608

[woven ingot]

But, yep, Tabbie is Korvine herself, so the P2.

[dusky sparrow]

Anyone willing to help a poor soul proceed through hard mode?

[fierce light]

Kinda amazes me that people still don't know to defend individual lanes in None Shall Pass/Immovable still.

[woven ingot]

I love to run everywhere, makes me do some gym 😂

But, yeah, what I love even more is to stay stationary and have an easy run. Only come back if one teammate got overrun or it's boss time.

[fierce light]

Yeah it's just on those maps in particular you can feel it when someone left their lane unattended.

Desert Tribulations too

[woven ingot]

An unlike the other "defend" map there are only 3 lanes without any monsters coming from everywhere forcing you to run.

Desert is the other one right?

[fierce light]

Desert Tribulations has the 2 camps in each lane. Immovable has 3 objectives to defend, but essentially 3 lanes. None Shall Pass has 3 lanes, 1 objective.

[woven ingot]

Right I was thinking Immovable. You can be one by objective or something but that will be slow for most waves.

They clearly like to give us Umbral Hellscorch lately. It's his anniversary or something? ^^

[fickle linden]

this weeks speedrun seems more fun than last week

[round glacier]

People need to stop building pendulum in immovable

[woven ingot]

I never liked the last map with laser land. But yes, overall those runs are fine.

[fierce light]

It seems to be strictly giving us boss speedruns now

Kinda sucks now that I finally got an elemental build going

[woven ingot]

ahah. I know what you mean.

Trash mobs are so much faster and fun with Ice Lotus Mod. Throw your skill, one shot the monster with an elemental explosion, rinse and repeat.

[fickle linden]

there are non boss speedruns too?

man i hate korvine still

4% and wipe 😦

[woven ingot]

Korvine is ok. Adding Umbral Hellscorch to it wasn't that much on my run. And her P1 is pretty bad, doesn't matter how much you know it.

[pearl raft]

@fierce light best way to farm in suffer no demon ?
the first one [30fatigue] or the challenge one [45fatigue]

[woven ingot]

And yes you can have non boss speed runs iirc. At least you can have mixed ones like 3 weeks ago, the very first mission of campaign. Eventide Ember.

[fierce light]

If you have a strong enough build to clear Challenge in Sub-2 minutes I'd say run that. Otherwise, run Normal.

Stratos Fall is likely going to be better for Moderation builds.

[pearl raft]

tyvm ❤️

[thorn narwhal]

i just have 1/6 of the jades ready which took 1000+ of frags, been months and no useful jade drop and frags farm is slow

[turbid agate]

Yama's Paragon 2 is sooo annoying lol

[dusky sparrow]

Is there anyone willing to help me try to get a more up to date build with my soul jades if I stream my gameplay?

[fierce light]

Best bet is farming the Suffer No Demon event right now

Drops all the current best jades right now aside from the ones in Thunder Scorch

[woven ingot]

And for the build themselves, you got everything in the pinned section of that channel.

[dusky sparrow]

I literally cannot get it to que, and when it does i am waiting an hour
(Am only 773)

[dusky sparrow]

What would be "that" channel?

[woven ingot]

This one, the showdown one. You can look in the pinned section and you'll see all the current top builds ^^

[turbid agate]

i can help if u still need it?

[dusky sparrow]

That would be appreciated. On ps5 or pc?

[turbid agate]

im on pc but it doesnt matter. I am NA server tho.

[fierce light]

I don't see how, I'm getting queues like every 20s at the most in NA.

[dusky sparrow]

Must be nice.

[fierce light]

Which one are you queuing for?

[dusky sparrow]

Trips is the only option I get

Trios

Thunderous roar

[turbid agate]

unless u have cross play off? because i get queues immediately as well.

[dusky sparrow]

I have it on

[fierce light]

I mean Normal or Challenge version?

[dusky sparrow]

I feel gas lit, because I only have 1 version to que for

Other side helps i see

[quaint girder]

Most people are farming challenge during off hours. During peak which is 4PM EST to like 2AM you should be able to pop queue for normal

We're also already halfway through the event so I'd assume most people aren't doing the normal challenge

[dusky sparrow]

In other words.
The likelihood of me progressing is non existent

[thorn narwhal]

rewards the same right or better wait for chapter 2

[woven ingot]

Could be that people are waiting for tomorrow and the new chapter and aren't doing much chapter 1 right now

As for progressing, no worries event or not you'll be progressing. Nirriti is the easiest way (outside of event) and it's open 24/7, so that's not a problem.

[thorn narwhal]

no idea why there's always a stupid timing mismatch

[subtle bramble]

Yeah I was convinced the new chapter would open with the week reset and now I saw it says 16th like whyy

[woven ingot]

That's because the reset is at 21 (for me) and the new shops/hero release/yama/etc. are at 1am, so "the day after".

[thorn narwhal]

for real like pvp resets then pve resets then different modes open/reset, then chamber reset, then shops timer resets all of them in a different timing why seriosuly

[woven ingot]

It's 4h after reset, but count as the next day in GMT.

[thorn narwhal]

it isn't just because the new hero its every time shops and everything are mismatched

[thorn narwhal]

queue is dead too, perfect

[fierce light]

It doesn't care about your Sense Level, so if the queues are proving too long you can always just go in Solo.

They die really easily on Normal, especially when you get the special effect going.

[fickle linden]

there is no solo version of enigma peak?

[woven ingot]

Nope, it's trio only.

[fickle linden]

stratos fall is online

[fierce light]

Yup

[fickle linden]

oh it's just different bosses

[fierce light]

Frog and Korvine

Special effect is different as well, triggers from Aegis-Break skill instead of Ability.

Zooming on through.

i_run

[fickle linden]

i like the new one more

also oooooooh what a start for week got moderation on first 5 recasts!

75% mod now 🙂

and windfall with flux shards

[lapis sundial]

I've got a stupid question about one of the challenges

" best Nittri on nightscream or legendary while using no more than 3 healing items "

It doesn't specify berries and powder

Sooo are anima rings counted as well?

[timid stirrup]

anima rings dont count. u cant use more than 3 of any healing items total

[fierce light]

Has to be something you manually consume, like those Berries or Powder.

[fickle linden]

well

paragon3 is the roock

goddamn that grab does damage

[fierce light]

Good to know

[lapis sundial]

Tyty

[fierce light]

Okay did a little math on the Catch Up.
1 Purple = -100 Catch Up Points.

For Suffer No Demon, it has an expected rate of 4.2 Souljade Fragments per run. The max Catch Up Points you can get (@100% Rewards) being 420. So 3 Purple Souljades would give you 120 Catch Up Points.

I'll have to see how it interacts with Gold Souljades, but I'm assuming it'll be -400 Catch Up Points.

At 75% Rewards, Suffer No Demon (and Nirriti's Ruins Hard+) has an expected rate of 3.15 Souljade Fragments per run. Which matches with the 315 max Catch Up Points you can get.

[hearty rivet]

Yes, 1 gold souljade = 4 purple catchup point wise

[fierce light]

So Catch Up Points literally only come into play when you hit below the exact average expected drops.

I'll have to see how many Catch Up Points = 1 Souljade though at the end

[hearty rivet]

so far what I've seen. The red numbers are weird but the preview in weekly challge window showed me those.

the catchup points are the thresholds that are spent

and empty cells are those that I haven't spent

[fierce light]

I mean from the final conversion screen

[hearty rivet]

this?

[fierce light]

Yeah

It seems kinda inconsistent. I'm getting 1 Souljade per 260 Catch Up Points right now, but yours is giving 1 per 660

[hearty rivet]

Yes, below 640 numbers are weird and dunno why

for some reason preview starts showing more and more then in the 640 range it falls back to 1

[fierce light]

So guess it is better to let it build up

260 Catch Up Points makes sense though. 10% Chance of Legendary, 90% Chance of Epic, so ~1.3 Fragments on average. You get about half the value from a Catch Up Point then getting it as a drop in-game.

[hearty rivet]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aORVQn-jJeol8JvXEH3rpBAE27brqBpSlRfyWP2SXiI/edit?usp=sharing here is the raw data, don't want to spam the channel with a long pic

[fierce light]

What's the total and spent columns?

[hearty rivet]

total was the number under "Catch up points" text in the preview

and the spent was that was actually spent from total

the 3rd column is just I rounded down the total to the nearest 160*x

[fierce light]

Ah I think I see what it's doing

The first legendary is guaranteed

and it compensates for that after

[hearty rivet]

Where you see x in the spent column it was just a preview before I was allowed to convert it.
One thing is probably incorrect in my spreadsheet: I think below 160 total points you can't get anything from your points.

[fierce light]

Yeah it seems to be acting a little weird

Unless my eyes are deceiving me, but I went from 25 Souljades to 26 and now 24.

[hearty rivet]

wow. How many points do you have 👀

[fierce light]

Also btw a tip for those running Suffer No Demon, if you don't have Moderation (or even if you do), you can unequip the -Root node to make your Ghastblooms able to cause Chain Reactions on mobs. It will lower your DPS against the boss, but can help a lot with the mobbing part.

[fierce light]

Now it looks like it jumped up to ~280 Catch Up Points per Souljade.

[plain spire]

what modee are you playing to get that kind of catch up points?

[fierce light]

Suffer No Demon

I hit Topaz.

Since the grind is so fast, I don't even mind getting below average drops.

[hearty rivet]

Yeaaah it certainly feels better than getting bad drops from nirriti

[fierce light]

Whoa, it might be worth to let it stock up tbh

[tacit nest]

cannot beat paragon 2

did really good with thunderscorch but couldnt do it

[fierce light]

Try it without Copper?

[tacit nest]

i used arcane

not used to multiple bosses

ig

first time ever even hitting paragon

[hearty rivet]

you can take it easy and do that level playing reactively, dodge, defuse and trigger scorch mainly from their blue attacks (and on top of that the sap souljade can be nice for extra healing)

[tacit nest]

i tried lol

like i said not used to 2 bosses

ima keep trying but fuck i struggled

[fierce light]

It helps to have one directly behind the other.

Probably Tianfei behind Mountain Ghost if possible

[tacit nest]

see i was doing that and it was working lol

just got hit a couple times and it killed me lol

i did pretty well with poison lotus i just need more mod lmfao

[polar geyser]

+1 enigma peak farm

[fierce light]

Yeah Paragon 2 is practice for Paragon 3 haha

[tacit nest]

sadge

well i made it to paragon at least lol

now time to upgrade thunderscorch for NEXT season lol

[tacit nest]

ohhhhh

nvm

i beat paragon 2

i cant beat paragon 3

tha shi was hard

[fierce light]

It does eventually become 1v1 with the bosses

[tacit nest]

if i had mod itd be easier lol

i see you beat it already lol

😭

[fierce light]

The venom wraith omen helps

Can do the 1st Charged attack instead

[tacit nest]

i know lol i seen

gotta be skill issue lol

[shrewd basin]

Anyone wanna make a showdown build on my account?

[hexed jungle]

on suffer no demon whats the difference in rewards on challenge and normal?

[fierce light]

Same drop rate, just smaller quantity of Souljades for Normal. Still ends up around the same amount Fatigue wise.

[turbid agate]

how do you change a rare attribute into a different one?

[tacit nest]

170 fragments on arcane

nothing....

[short meadow]

Recast that rare untill you find a Stat with max attribute.
Then recast another attribute for another rare

[turbid agate]

but it isnt guaranteed to be recast into another rare right? its random. Its just like recasting any other attribute?

[short meadow]

Recasting a rare is not gurranted another rare...

You will get random attributes if you recast a rare

[turbid agate]

ok damn, thank you.

[short meadow]

Mybe after 60-70 recast you can get another rare

[sour wedge]

but also isn’t guaranteed to be max stat? so the stat value will be a diff % of the max each time?

so would you attempt to reroll the rare stat and just cancel it each time you don’t get a max stat?

[short meadow]

Yes recasting a rare isnt gurrented max stat yet....You have to recast and cancel untill you find a stat with max attribute

[sour wedge]

okay cool, I’ll do that with the scorching I got on my poison lotus mod build then

thanks!

[short meadow]

You are welcome

And It's the most efficient way to max a souljade

You can recast useless rare into a max stat and Reroll for another rate

[tacit nest]

3 more windfalls and im maxed on poison lotus rares

lol just got another on arcane

after 200 rolls

💀

[fierce light]

Congrats!

[tacit nest]

heres the thing tho

can i keep racasting/cancel till mod or no

do i gotta get rid of wind?

[fierce light]

Yeah if it's the only rare.

[tacit nest]

w

So I can do that method with this windfall. Since it’s the only one?

[short meadow]

Yessir

[tacit nest]

wwwwww

i thought the opposite

[lone umbra]

Why would you recast windfall 🤔?

[tacit nest]

moderation

i got plenty of windfalls

[timid stirrup]

only reason would b having wf on other jades when still missing mod/scorching pending build type.

[plain spire]

im at 175% mod now game won't give me windfall 🙃

[timid stirrup]

ouch

recasting mods into wf is hard

[plain spire]

getting tired of this game after spending all fatigue nothing to do at all

[fierce light]

So expensive to max a build

Hopefully can be fully done next week

[timid stirrup]

im still trying to finish my last attribute

[oak spindle]

how much moderation should I try and get?

[tacit nest]

@fierce light

I watched your yt on paragon 3

Mod is pretty much a need need if poison lotus is the build your gon use

[plain spire]

75 min - max 100

[oak spindle]

oh dang alright thank you !

[sly kestrel]

what is the best build for Matari ?

[lone umbra]

none useless hero

[bronze wharf]

Paragon 3 MF very OP , Fak !

[sly kestrel]

rofl

😒

[plain spire]

i pass paragon 3 on yueshan died once hate that boss

[sly kestrel]

which stage we fight this boss?

[plain spire]

what boss?

[sly kestrel]

paragon ?

[plain spire]

it's a stage in yama's abyss

paragon 3 stage boss is Rock annoying boss

[sly kestrel]

aha ik him haha

[plain spire]

in paragon 3 he has a mini boss with him so kinda annoying

[sly kestrel]

ok

[drifting lance]

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[timid stirrup]

when i have difficulty i always use skyfire build and somehow i beat stage

but these lotus builds should b about the same exploding on whats near

[lucid ore]

only once? nice

Died 3 times on viper for me.. all 3 against the double boss, did it first try tho. Never coming back in again XD

Top person did it in 1:27, my best 4:27. Guess that's the gap

[plain spire]

my current best is 3:06 but died 2x

i still can't avoid some of his grab

not dying but 4 secs slower than my best

[ionic wren]

Can anyone help me on none shall pass hard mode

[hearty rivet]

yeaah, this time with ice mod Tessa, para3 boss felt a lot less obnoxious than last season with can't remember what build I used to beat him after many many wipes (was either thunderscorch or ember) - I'm sure Tessa abilities has something to do with it too

[formal lark]

someone here wanna go enigma peak eu?

[dusky sparrow]

What's tarka ji's best astral aegis down dps combo?

[restive wraith]

Is there any difference between 2 event stages? I just personally hate Korvine

[dusky sparrow]

Challenge seems to drop way more soul jades

[restive wraith]

ah yea not challange and hard but there are 2 stages now, both have hard and challenge

as my note the drops from 2 challenge stages look the same . . .

[cobalt torrent]

but there's only one available tho

Thunderous Roar locked when Stratos Fall opened

[fickle linden]

stratos fall faster to clear

i hate korvine too but atleast she dies in 1sec in event

so doesn't really matter who the boss is

[restive wraith]

ah shit... I was tripping lmao

[restive wraith]

If only I'm that strong...

triple both my teammate's dmg and yet the boss take several seconds

[fickle linden]

well, several seconds isn't too bad

next week it's back to nirriti ruins

gotta enjoy this event now that we can

[restive wraith]

as long as I don't get bot, I'm happy

[finite gull]

what does luck do in showdown, it's useless on souljades since they dont even have a chance to carry into Nirriti right?

[hidden creek]

i literally never played poison yoto before

dunno how it gonna be

but ppl keep stealing my tessa and feria

[restive wraith]

Imma go Matari if that happen

still carried somehow

[wanton wadi]

Anyone help hard mode none shall pass please

[fickle linden]

are u eu

[wanton wadi]

Yeah

[fickle linden]

i can

9542100110166

[wanton wadi]

Will invite you now 👍🏻

[lone umbra]

[wanton wadi]

Thankyou

[fickle linden]

what is like alot catch up points? like the game doesn't like you level?

[hidden creek]

what do we use on valda plm @fierce light ? eruditon?

[fickle linden]

2 windfalls and 1 mod today progress like crazy 💪

[fierce light]

Spam Universal Slash

[fierce light]

I wouldn't recommend building it as it's a rather selfish attribute. Supposedly increases the quality of drops, but with the amount of variation in the drops, it hardly matters.

[fierce light]

Erudition has the highest accumulation (x2 attacks to proc), but can be very unsafe. Chained Sweeping is your next best bet.

[dusky sparrow]

Universe into aegis break or vertical?

[fierce light]

Just Universe Slash

[dusky sparrow]

Okay, if ult is up, save for boss or use to annihilate add spawns for the event?

gonna admit it has been too hilarious to fireball spam in the ult

[fierce light]

If you don't have Moderation then yeah use it when it's up. Otherwise can save it for the boss.

[dusky sparrow]

I don't yet.

Am only 880 farming the event before going back and SMASHING hard mode

[dusky sparrow]

Will be using the ice build till I can comfortably use something else. (Though I am taking a hit to use the frost immunity hade at the cost of 10% attack on what would be freeze)

Frozen blast is what I traded

[fierce light]

Yup

[dusky sparrow]

Do we have a tier list for our heroes at current state? I am having fun with yoto, tarka, wuchen, and Tessa

And wanted to know where they stand XD

[lone umbra]

idk about yoto but tarka/tessa are S+ and wuchen next tier after that

[normal socket]

anyone know how often these refresh?

[hidden creek]

it won't

[normal socket]

so it's a one time thing?

[hidden creek]

yes

[wind light]

s+ tier with defuse continuous: wuchen

[fierce light]

S: Yueshan
A: Tessa, Feria Shen, Tarka Ji
B: Viper Ning, Wuchen
C: Yoto Hime, Valda Cui, Temulch, Tianhai, Kurumi
F: Matari

[dusky sparrow]

Whoa
Yue shan that high? How the heck did he manage that?

[wind light]

s++ tier : yueshan with build up frostbite gauge with F and V

[wind light]

like i saiid

[timid stirrup]

444 build is meant for him

[fierce light]

The buff to his ultimate & ability combined with a Moderation build

[hearty rivet]

F obviously means "FTW"

[wind light]

my wuchen is B 😭

[dusky sparrow]

Oh.
So if I don't have moderation because I am progging, he doesn't have that same value?

[dusky sparrow]

F and v?

[fickle linden]

should i keep scorching or recast it to max stat? its my 2nd rare i cant recast it into rare

im plm

[fierce light]

Wuchen has a strong kit, just unfortunately doesn't synergize too well with Lotus builds and doesn't charge Thunder Scorch that fast outside of his Ultimate.

[wind light]

yeah his ability

[wind light]

what build are you using

[dusky sparrow]

(I am on ps5, I need translation till they allow rebind on mnk for console)

[wind light]

agree

[wind light]

ah yeah his jumping and transformation skill

[fierce light]

He drops down to B tier without Moderation. Same for Feria.

[wind light]

so with 100% moderation we have best F heroes are : yueshan, viper , tessa

[dusky sparrow]

Oh. So for prog I should just stick to tarka/Tessa. Got it

[timid stirrup]

2 options. Recast it into max or near max and use new Flux. Or, build a new jade get a rare then deconstruct that and use that as flux

[fickle linden]

poisn lotus

[sweet vale]

Guys whats max limit sense we can get from suffer no demon

[fierce light]

1100

[sweet vale]

It says 1000 but i get 825 only

@fierce light it wont drop

I did 20 times

[wind light]

scorching is useless maybe , i think you recast , unless you are using 444 build because you need scroching.

[fierce light]

It doesn't go right to the max drop

It's based off your level + number of runs you've done

[sweet vale]

@fierce light?

[wind light]

recast to take full attributes

[fierce light]

Would be too easy to level sense

[dusky sparrow]

I am almost to full fatigue in a single day x.x

[sweet vale]

So just keep running it like a maniac?

[fierce light]

Yes, it's the fastest farm at the moment with the best drop pool

[sweet vale]

But my 1000 sense will become obsolete next season?

[dusky sparrow]

That's how it always works?

[fierce light]

Yueshan, Feria and Tessa. Tarka to an extent, but he can kind of force it with his Ultimate.

[fierce light]

Leveling Sense is the easiest thing, but affects your damage the most

If you want to do any meaningful damage this season, then you'll want to increase it. It's a long season.

[dusky sparrow]

So if I read tarki right, fireball in ult, 2-3 universal slashes, repeat on down?

[wind light]

feria super duper rolling brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[fierce light]

Fireball + Universe Slash should proc Ice Blast.

Fireball + Arcane Thunder + Universe Slash will proc Poison Blast.

Other than that you spam Universe Slash for DPS during the downtime.

[wind light]

what is your fav build

and fav hero

[fierce light]

Tessa poison

[dusky sparrow]

Yeah
That's what I been doing on tessa. And for prog, dear gods she MELTS

Dragonlike might spam for dos on tessa? Or the stabby stab

[timid stirrup]

Stab city

[astral widget]

should i try tessa poison?

i mean i dont have max build so is it worth?

[timid stirrup]

U can test poison Tessa during event for free

[astral widget]

@timid stirrup this event is too easy for test

[timid stirrup]

Solo it and u can kill everything while getting a feel

[astral widget]

im doing it solo on ice build

and all died in 3 seconds

boss isnt problem beacuse tarka fireball make crazy damage

[timid stirrup]

Or do a nirriti and get poison lotus there

[astral widget]

i did it a lot of time, but i see poision very very rare sitaution

but i will try ;D

i saw how zer0 was played with me to help me doom stars and that was actually crazy XD

[fierce light]

The Tessa Poison in the event is more focused on Lotus Impact damage than her ability. You could use that build though while working up to Moderation.

[timid stirrup]

Very few plm Tessa users on NA

Poison Lotus Mod = plm

[astral widget]

yueshan is so good? really?/

[hidden creek]

the strongest actually

[timid stirrup]

I was 10th in Tessa yama's and next plm user was 44th 50th 60th

[astral widget]

do u think they should add other elemnt?

i did paragon 3 on tarka ji but i get reawrd only on temulch for platinum XD

[fierce light]

Next season we're likely to get another element. They usually add one every full season and a secondary damage source every half season.

They're going to need to expand the potential tree at this rate though.

[coral shard]

next season they should add something undead, dark atmosphere alike

such as Void

[dusky sparrow]

Question.
I have never nearly maxed my fatigue. Ever. What happens when you max it?

[hearty rivet]

Hope they'll keep the lotus thing 😅

[hidden creek]

you spend fatigue for drops so when your fatigue is maxed you can't get any drops

[dusky sparrow]

blinks

That has got to be the absolute worst idea in the history of bad design.

[hidden creek]

the idea is alright

[dusky sparrow]

Max my fatigue
Retire for the week

[hidden creek]

the execution is the one that sucks

[dusky sparrow]

The fuck

As a person who farms and farms. This is a very. Very agitating brick wall

[hidden creek]

well guess what they made it to brick wall people who farms and farms

so, tough luck

[astral widget]

okay i tried poison build and thats acutally crazy XD

[dusky sparrow]

I will die on the hill of this is bad design. Like. Lower the rate of rewards to like. 20%. 50%. Something. Rather than nothing -.-

[timid stirrup]

Where and how did u test it?

[astral widget]

i played challenge one on trio with fill party

and i did 1.6M dmg more than 2 other person XD

[dusky sparrow]

1120 and maxed jades?

[astral widget]

i will try solo now poision and ice later and check time

[astral widget]

yep XD

[dusky sparrow]

I.

looks down

Am trapped by this stupid fatigue system

[timid stirrup]

Pretty sure it was the test Tessa set

[dusky sparrow]

Probably
Still funny that the 3 "rental" heroes are basically in damn near best in slot meta setup XD

For your 3 trial runs

[timid stirrup]

@fierce light how does that ILM yushan/depths boast build work for Kurumi? I tried testing it in training and i could never get a full stack of frost after sending out yushan and defusing freeze

[astral widget]

@fierce light trail card tessa on event is good?

beacuse i did better time on ice blast dmg and maybe something wrong with build

[fierce light]

You can't have +6 Ice-Wielding for it to work. Has to be around 4 iirc.

[hidden creek]

damn big changes coming

yama trios again

[fierce light]

It's pretty meh since it's focused on Charged Attack and Lotus Impact DMG instead of her ability.

[hidden creek]

gs big buff

[fierce light]

Oh nice they applied Netherstep by default

about dang time

[hidden creek]

matari big buff too

[fierce light]

Greatsword going to feel good in Nirriti's finally

[hidden creek]

now her F is her pvp F2

not F1

[fierce light]

Oh Abyssal Aura is going to be her default now? Interesting

Ik my friend is going to be stoked about Yama's Trios being back

I hope they show the entire team this time though

[timid stirrup]

trial build has 50% of every stat pb, atk, charged atk, and melee dmg

[fierce light]

Oh dang,

Adjust [HydroFlare·Condensed Flow] to Legendary Anima Ring, and shorten the cooldown of triggering [HydroFlare Phase Excitation] in Buffs to 1.2Sec.
Condensed Flow not going to be a troll Ring anymore

[astral widget]

okay olay

okay*

[hidden creek]

they buff katana

which is a kurumi buff, lol

no one run her because 3 dps is ideal for everything rn

[fierce light]

Where?

[hidden creek]

in the patch note

below gs buff

[fierce light]

Storm Slash? That's the Horizontal Charge for GS

[dusky sparrow]

Where be the patch notes?

[tacit nest]

Where can I find them

Yeah

[fierce light]

Kurumi also kinda nerfs poison by removing it with her Ultimate and Ability.

[timid stirrup]

I know u guys were looking at catch up points earlier heres what i got on 150% challenge mode

[fierce light]

630 max, which is x1.5 of 420

~260-280 Catch Up Points = 1 Souljade
So it's actually not ideal to get them.

[wind light]

what is your 444 potential build i cant find it in pinned

[dusky sparrow]

Are we gonna get a pointed direction to those patch notes?

[fierce light]

On the site.

[fierce light]

https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1329482872138104832
Not live yet.

[wind light]

awshit you forgot to pin the site

[fierce light]

It's the first pin

[wind light]

i knew the site but its too far to scroll

[fierce light]

There's some junk pins still there

[wind light]

ah that one i thought it was campagin thumbnail

[hearty rivet]

What is "[Dealer Phantom]" souljade?

[fierce light]

The troll souljade that dropped a dealer when you fully died.

[hearty rivet]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

I saw that only in 1.5 yama occasionally and never really understood the purpose 😅

[fierce light]

When you get a chance, can you delete this.

[hidden creek]

oh

[hidden creek]

done

[wind light]

what is your anime avatar

is it good

[dusky sparrow]

I am not really going to pay attention to test server notes.
Things are subject to change

[hidden creek]

i don't watch it

[fierce light]

They rarely do, although I am still disappointed about them not adding the Recast Value Pity.

[dusky sparrow]

After for once hitting the fatigue cap, having my dopamine rush brick walled. I am struggling to find something to latch onto to keep my attention

[hearty rivet]

And I thought you chose it because of the series 😔

[wind light]

try ranked

[dusky sparrow]

I prefer keeping my sanity, thanks

[hidden creek]

nah youtube recommended me a video of some ancient indian dancing to the theme song of this deer girl anime and i find it funny

[hearty rivet]

Try only blue souljade yama run

[hidden creek]

never watched the anime though

[dusky sparrow]

I run into afkers for team mates.
And run into charge slider teams of 3 murdering me before I blink

[hidden creek]

https://youtu.be/P5k2Db1SRrY

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[dusky sparrow]

No. It doesn't raise my sense level.
It doesn't help me in any way.

Can invest my time more wisely in other games tbh

[wind light]

WE FOUND TABBIE LORE

[hidden creek]

i wish

[wind light]

confirmed tabbie is indian

[hidden creek]

i wish my lore is as interesting as some indian dancing to an anime opening theme and it's actually fitting

[thorn narwhal]

this just for kurumi or 4 is required on all

[hidden creek]

btw just tried ice yueshan for the first time and i keep forgetting i can parry during V

[tacit nest]

Alr

What does iirc mean

[hidden creek]

i really dislike piloting his V form but ig i has no choice if feria and tessa is taken, idw to play viper

[hidden creek]

if i remember correctly

[tacit nest]

W

Thank you

[wind light]

ai ai or cee

[spice canyon]

Frozen Blast and +4 Ice Wielding will accumulate Frostbite instantly = 1 charge of Yushan Shadow
assuming you are using Depth Blast

[thorn narwhal]

that's interesting way of playing it

but will it make up for the dmg lost

[timid stirrup]

thank u. i was getting super confused.

[wind light]

yueshan normal dmg can make gauge fill faster

[timid stirrup]

thanx

[fierce light]

Less Ice-Wielding reduces your Frostbite resistance. All heroes have the same amount by default so doesn't matter which one, you need 4 or less for it to instantly freeze you.

Only would say it's worth if you have a stacked Yueshan carrying you.

[spice canyon]

+4 Ice wielding alone is not enough, you need frozen blast

[fierce light]

Entire build is core, yeah

[spice canyon]

+40% attack buff will cover those dmg loss

[thorn narwhal]

frozen blast gives 35% not 40% right? or u mean a different buff

i really really want to try this

[spice canyon]

the buff is increased long time ago afaik

[fierce light]

Kurumi's buff from her ability

[thorn narwhal]

aah

what would hold that build tho from surpassing normal ice lotus

[spice canyon]

You must have a friend that is super good to carry and don't do many interuption
I did those build #👾┃showdown message

[timid stirrup]

so +6 ice and frozen blast?

i have the build on my kurumi but was only testing in test room

[thorn narwhal]

i see

[heavy gulch]

good idea

should hit hard

[fierce light]

+4 Ice-Wielding means you're doing 71.4% Ice DMG and the constant freezing makes it pretty unsafe to use as a primary damage dealer.

[thorn narwhal]

it is indeed tricky

but omg it is soooo fun with 4 wielding

[fierce light]

You also have to be careful not to use the Yushan Shadow too early or you'll be screwed with the much lower accumulation rate.

[thorn narwhal]

yeah

it even feels better than playing mod if played correctly

[hidden creek]

B17 bomber tessa build

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[fierce light]

Yeah I love going airborne, easier to hit where you want to

But you can also unequip Poison Root and go afk after one skill

[hidden creek]

wdym

[hearty rivet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGU1P6lBW6Q

[thorn narwhal]

is there a reason for this to happen?

[astral widget]

omg manticore is so fuc*ing annoying

[thorn narwhal]

sometimes it fills just half the bar

[fierce light]

Too fast I guess, so it goes off while Frostbite is still on cooldown for yourself.

[thorn narwhal]

could be, really tricky playstyle

[timid stirrup]

so i just did it also and i dropped IW to +4 and it fills back up

[fierce light]

Correction, 2 skills since they die from the first. Also works better if you walk around in circles.

[hidden creek]

yea it looks funny 😂

[dusky sparrow]

blinks how is the skill refunding this fast????

[hidden creek]

100% mod

[tacit nest]

poison ice build???

yooo

[hidden creek]

nah it's base lotus

not ice

[dusky sparrow]

blinks

[tacit nest]

??

[dusky sparrow]

Yeah I am no where near getting that. And with the fatigue system it will probably be almost end of season before I can make thay

[tacit nest]

whats that

[fierce light]

Lotus without a -Root glyph on the Potential

[tacit nest]

so just the jade build

lmfao

[fierce light]

Just needs the jades and Hydro's Bound to work

[hidden creek]

the lotus explosion damages itself stacks element and cause elemental explosion which summons new lotuses which also stacks element

and trigger the chain reaction

[tacit nest]

is that a better build or sum?

or just a little funsie thing

[hidden creek]

just having fun

[fierce light]

Good for missions with just a lot of weak minions

[hidden creek]

well for normal you legit should run this

[fierce light]

Not recommended for anything tanky

[hidden creek]

but for challenge no

[tacit nest]

ahhh

word

im capped on fatigue so it would really just be for fun lol

[fierce light]

It works in Challenge, but wouldn't recommend it for solo

I'd do 1.1m while my friend on Yueshan would do 1.1-1.3m to the bosses

[fickle linden]

yay got my first 3 stars from speedrun xD

[woven ingot]

Already getting a top speedrunner after two weeks ^^

[spice canyon]

Frosbite cooldown on yourself is slightly longer than the enemy

if you are using Frozen Blast

[fickle linden]

hah i wish, i somehow just got lucky and didn't take any hits from korvine

988/1000 season challenge points so closee

next week i get 50 from doing speedrun and nirriti related showdown

[woven ingot]

That is if you don't get it earlier from Nirriti challenges and things like that.

[fickle linden]

oh right true i could do the 10% hp one for 8 pts and 12 element cards for another 8pts

that would be enough

what's the card you want for 10% hp challenge?

[woven ingot]

The 12 animas are not too bad to do.

[fickle linden]

or was it curse

[woven ingot]

Divinity guard, that's the secret anima helping with the 10% hp challenge.

[fickle linden]

oh it's the only secred card im missing from my collection

[fierce light]

Poison Blessing works as well

[woven ingot]

It makes things harder in general but will be helping on the challenge. With one positive side: you can't get killed by poison or burn. Meaning you can give a middle finger to every map that will have poison this or that. Which means ... pretty much every map 😂

You can poison yourself but it's a bit harder isn't it? And does the poison element 4 give you immunity to poison/fire deaths?

[fierce light]

Makes Poison non-lethal iirc. But not Burn.

[woven ingot]

Be careful when you take your animas to avoid everything giving you life for parrying/defusing etc. it can makes things ... unreliable. I tested for you, and my verdict is: nope!

[fierce light]

You can go for more armor, just avoid healing

[woven ingot]

Poison blessing is way easier to get than the secret anima at least. But was harder to lose life iirc, and you'll have the stress of getting any burn and die.

[fickle linden]

thank you for your testing 🤣

[thorn narwhal]

yeah would have been perfect if u can proc it without Frozen blast

[hidden creek]

it got changed next patch though

change to poison and burn dmg received will reduce armor first

but u're no longer immune to death from poison and burn

[fierce light]

Wtf they added Armor Guard to it?
Terrible addition;.

[woven ingot]

I see, but if they get to damage armor first it's fine.

[hidden creek]

actually i don't remember if it's the ring or the 4x poison rings effect got changed

[fierce light]

It's worse, cause it leaves you actually one shot instead of being able to be at 1 HP, 100% Armor.

[hidden creek]

[Poison Blessing Level 1] New Buffs: The [Miasma] Damage you receive is reduced by 35%, and [Miasma] and [Burning] Damage will deduct Armor value first; Delete [Miasma] and [Burning] Buffs that are not lethal.

yea that's poison blessing lv1 get changed

[fickle linden]

guess now is the time to do it then

[fickle linden]

nvm i just get the last points next week

[woven ingot]

ahah. Something went south?

[fickle linden]

yep

[woven ingot]

I can help if you need.

[wanton wadi]

Anyone help me through hard mode please

[amber terrace]

lmao, look like it seem r6s pistol lotus

[fickle linden]

it's okay, thanks thought

[tacit nest]

NA??

[wanton wadi]

I can switch to na

[amber terrace]

no

[hidden creek]

usable
but you should replace lotus aegis break with something else depends on the character u're using

miasma drive then

[amber terrace]

just go enigma peak and get choice gold jade

[fierce light]

If you don't have a high enough [Moderation] stat yet, it's okay. Lotus Aegis-Break would be replaced with either Miasma Drive or Arcane Thunder at high investment though.

[tacit nest]

whats your player tag

[wanton wadi]

Jordanbev

[tacit nest]

your number

player id

[woven ingot]

You can use his name, it works too.

[wanton wadi]

3583800050176

[tacit nest]

i did

didnt see it

[woven ingot]

Ah maybe not if he's not on his home server. Didn't tried that.

[amber terrace]

cuz he on EU

[fierce light]

Soon™️

[sour wedge]

is there someway I can see max attribute values while rerolling?

[fierce light]

No, some reason.

[amber terrace]

just check on @fierce light doc google

[sour wedge]

in the pins?

[amber terrace]

yup

[astral widget]

miasma drive is so hard to get xd

i spend 1h to get it

[analog aspen]

I never now if I should report these players or if they are just not good at the game

[fierce light]

3:45 is plenty time to do that damage Oh wait nvm I read that wrong I thought you were reporting yourself for doing too much dmg lol

I think you should probably farm the regular version though if it's taking that long with randoms

[analog aspen]

the issue is that also not that good yet

[thorn narwhal]

rock p2 is literally jumping simulator and p1 karate simulator

when u get a perfect run then he just decides to buullshit around

[fickle linden]

i think there are alot of players who are new to pve in this event

[analog aspen]

that might be very true

[fickle linden]

if they dont afk in start i dont care what they do

[amber terrace]

maybe they're new in showdown or not good stats

[tacit nest]

how many spring lantern huas yall got

what you think we gon get??

[fickle linden]

blue accessories

[hidden creek]

if you actually got this then you got the rarest thing in the game

[tacit nest]

wait really?

thas it?

[woven ingot]

Why? Blue accessories do exist 😛

[hidden creek]

not on chests that cost 360 gold

[woven ingot]

I needed 1h to just get a kill on that Paragon3. Last season it's where I had to stop because I couldn't do them.
My IRL rage bar was high enough to throw 10 Ultimates in a row -.-
I don't like karate boy when he goes for infinite kicks that you can't always defuse as there are double kicks and I can't telle the difference between a double kick move and a simple one.
And I hate the grab frog. You dodged my first grab? Cool for you. The second too? Nice. Third? Yep? And .... here comes the rarely done 4th one, gotcha, say goodbye to 60% of your hp + armor! Fair!
And I hate multi bosses fights, it's always lame no matter the game.
Put all that together in the mixer and you have Paragon 3. My personal heaven 😂

[woven ingot]

Ah! I knew you went for something tricky! 😂

[hidden creek]

[fierce light]

Yeah he didn't seem to throw the 4th grab this time.

Usually happens in his 4th phase.

[woven ingot]

I can confirm, he can. It's a rare thing but he totally can.

Tested and ... DISapproved.

[hidden creek]

it gonna take forever for my ice build to even get to close to max attributes not to mention 5 more windfalls

[analog aspen]

It already takes me very long to get my first build done

[fickle linden]

i thought u were gonna stay 4mod 4windfall 👀

[woven ingot]

Usually first phase isn't greedy with giving you his blue charged attack. I may be unlucky but he really didn't seem to be doing it much. Same for P2, I felt like he usually use that move much more often.
Not talking about the fact that breaking any of the ... 6 bosses' Aegis doesn't seem to be doable.

[fierce light]

Omg just thought about it. If they're making Matari's ability do damage, then Moderation might be good on her. It depends on what damage coefficient they give it though.

[analog aspen]

btw what would you do with this scorching here:

[hidden creek]

i did, with my poison build

[hidden creek]

dis the whole jade

[fierce light]

Recast it to a max Attribute and change it to Poison Blast DMG.

If you're out of fatigue already I'd keep it, but if not I'd keep farming Suffer No Demon for a better one.

[woven ingot]

You already got good global stats there! Don't complain. Some people are still far from done with their first build 😛

[fickle linden]

wish the flux jade from showdown pass was free

[hidden creek]

poison accumulation being lower than ice is really a dick move

from the devs

now if i want poison to do a decent work on diff character i gonna need the corresponding wielding jade for each of them

[fierce light]

409 Attack and 375% Poison Blast DMG is the max I can reach. Almost there.

[woven ingot]

I knew you'd end up an Ice user. One of us!

[hidden creek]

wish i could make poison yueshan work but it just don't

[woven ingot]

The problem being: in the "almost there" how many WF are there? ^^

[hidden creek]

so

[fickle linden]

im prolly gonna build thunderscorch one day after my poison build is little bit better 🤔

[fierce light]

If Poison had the accumulation it has with Venom Wraith (Omen in Paragon 3), it would be really good. Not quite as high as Ice, but high enough to be comfortable.

[analog aspen]

dont you think starting on a new jade is more expensive than recasting scorching and trying to flux it again?

[woven ingot]

It's Yueshan, slap 6 blue Jades on him, with 75-100% MOD and he will rock things 😂

[spice canyon]

Indeed

[hidden creek]

your toxified lotus is shit, no offense
so if it was me i'll just ditch the jade and get a new one with better base stats to start working on it

[fierce light]

Getting the first rare is relatively easy, it's the 2nd ones that're tough

and trust me it gets expensive trying to Recast the Value up

This makes my 2nd week purely increasing Value

[fierce light]

I got all the Windfalls I'd want. Going for 4 Mod, 7 WF so I can have a bit of DMG to Boss for the Toxin Blast.

[woven ingot]

Yep. And destroying it will give you 2 Flux fragment, so the way to recast a 2nd rare attribute on your new Jade.

[fierce light]

Since +15% Poison Blast DMG when you have 375% is only a 4% increase anyway.

[analog aspen]

Well, hopefully I'll get a better one during this weeks event

[woven ingot]

Probably even less, as you must have more bonus from Potential/Jades like Ice does?

[woven ingot]

That's a good way to go.

[fierce light]

Correction, it's a ~3.15% increase since it's more like (100% + 390%) / (100% + 375%) = ~1.0315

375% is what i have almost with all the bonuses. Just missing +15% Poison Blast DMG from an extra Windfall.

[hidden creek]

law of diminishing returns

[fierce light]

I'd reckon +7.5% DMG to Boss beats that

[hidden creek]

which is also the reason why i didn't bother to go for as many wf as possible

[fierce light]

For Ice build I'd say it's more important since it doesn't have a Toxin Blast equivalent.

Nearly everything it does is Ice Blast DMG.

[astral widget]

best way to get these green crystal for change bonus?'

[fierce light]

Also Trios Yamas is going to help Lotus builds shine

[hidden creek]

3 gold keys enigma peak

[fierce light]

cause no farming parries for 3 players.

[woven ingot]

Trio Yama?

[hidden creek]

yeah coming next patch

there's still seperated ranking for yama solo and trio though

[icy sundial]

when does yama resets? is it same time as rank reset ?

[hidden creek]

wdym by reset

[fickle linden]

what do you guys think of trio yamas?

[icy sundial]

giving out rewards

[hidden creek]

nothing, cuz it was a thing before, they removed it, now they bring it back

[hidden creek]

end of the season

which is at 140 more days

lol

[woven ingot]

That sounds good! But mean I need to start making friends to carry me then?!

[spice canyon]

[hidden creek]

dunno how it gonna be this time though

wish they make it like ''team ranking''

instead of trio leaderboard still being per person

[woven ingot]

That would be nice.

[hidden creek]

the test server patchnote is so badly ''translated'' i barely understand a thing

[thorn narwhal]

seriously, the whole fight is just dodging his infinite combos

[woven ingot]

Yeah, that's something I really dislike there too: they are trio type bosses, I mean they got no break it's permanent attacks. You can't charge an attack they are attacking anyway.
So it's just learn their every move and only skill/parry/defuse. Not my favorite gameplay.

But just did a Suffer no Demon with 100% MOD Yueshan and at least I can understand the grab frog ... infinite jumping around the whole map IS fun, when you're the one jumping 😂

[river stratus]

try defuse burn with rock boss

[hidden creek]

that's how og burn builds are played

[turbid agate]

There's going to be trios yamas now?

[woven ingot]

Yeah. But I'm ice lotus 😂

[tacit nest]

yessir

[hidden creek]

idk but i find paragon 3 is super easy

[thorn narwhal]

or just do scorch so u don't need to worry about his attacks at all

[hidden creek]

prolly i got too used with rock cuz back when it's on enigma i killed so many

[woven ingot]

One day I'm gonna strangle you. With love heh. But I'll strangle you.
But yes, you probably handle both form without a care and know his every combo. I don't, and as I don't like those bosses the learning isn't going fastly.

[hidden creek]

[fierce light]

Bosses probably going to hit crazy hard on Trios.

That plus an unbreakable Aegis and more health, going to be in for a rough time.

[fickle linden]

even more rought time is getting 2 friends to play with you

[fierce light]

Do hope it allows Lotus builds to shine a bit though cause I was going to challenge myself to go through with Poison Lotus all the way through.

[fickle linden]

what builds you played on previous seasons?

[tacit nest]

thunderscorch

that mf cooked

[turbid scroll]

i saw yushan spam his skill like its no cd how is that guy ?!

[fierce light]

Thunder Scorch

[fierce light]

[Moderation] @ 100%

[turbid scroll]

i can get moderation by using flux jade , there is no other way ?

[fickle linden]

you can get it same ways as any rare

recasting works too

[fierce light]

Recast for 1st rare, Flux Jades for 2nd rares only

[tacit nest]

how long would it take me to roll a windfall 30% into mod??

how many recasts

[hidden creek]

nobody knows

[tacit nest]

i wish they would make it to like 5000 fatigue

or sum

[fierce light]

Could be your next recast or over 200 recasts. No telling

[tacit nest]

alright

it took like 220 for my last windfall

[twin ledge]

Once trios comes back a lot more players will be playing so it won’t be to hard to find team

[fierce light]

Wonder if you can Solo queue for Trios

If they do start it off at Bronze I, might have to find people to catch back up in rank with.

[plain spire]

@fierce light Where do you guys read the new patch notes about new changes? can you sharel link?

[fierce light]

https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1329482872138104832

[plain spire]

Thanks

[limpid pecan]

they said they share unlocks

with solos

[fierce light]

Ah okay, so no having to find a team for the lower levels, nice

[dapper gale]

Question. I have gotten at least 1 rare attribute from recasting on every souljade now, and know to save my flux to add 2nd rares. If i add a second rare attribute, is the only way to recast them for other rares is via flux again then? new to showdown

[fierce light]

Yeah, if it gives a rare you don't want then you'll want to recast that into a max attribute and use a Flux Jade on your next lowest Attribute.

[dapper gale]

gotcha. thank you!

[tacit nest]

when you say max attribute wdym

like it absolutely has to be max?

for it to work

[fierce light]

Attack 4%, Increase DMG to Boss 5%, Ranged Resistance 10%, etc.

[fierce light]

Doesn't have to be, but as someone who has spent over 100 Fragments just trying to get the last 5% of an Attribute, it's worth.

[tacit nest]

when you racast that rare

does it automatically go into a maxed stat

or you have to do it yourself over time?

[fierce light]

What do you mean?

[tacit nest]

you said to recast a rare that you dont want into a maxed attribute

ahh i messed up

i meant maxed

does it automatically racast into a maxed?

[fickle linden]

no it's rng

[fierce light]

It'll be a random value

[tacit nest]

alrighty

thanks

do yall think the reward system and fatigue system is good how it is or no?

you think it needs changes?

[fierce light]

It's an improvement from what it was, but roughly every Souljade Fragment below the average you miss, you get 2/5ths of it back from Catch Up Points.

[dusky sparrow]

Before i do something stupid
With 0 fatigue left available, are we still at least able to get first clear rewards for hard mode stages?

[fierce light]

Yeah

[dusky sparrow]

Thank the God's. I have something I can probably work towards whilst waiting for next Wednesday because of the worst implementation of a throttling system.

That is if I don't just out right resent my progression being hindered enough to uninstall because this is just trivial and unnecessary

[tacit nest]

you think thats good or bad

should they bump up the fatigue you think?

[fickle linden]

what's best build for tianhai? can you make plotus work? never played him really before

[fierce light]

This about the only time the fatigue is consumed quickly, otherwise it would take quite a while to do it otherwise. I think they need to balance the fatigue for the missions better, cause Enigma Peak takes longer than anything else right now, but it's only 30 fatigue.

Nirriti's Ruins higher difficulties are useless to run as well since they consume the same fatigue with the same drop rate.

Catch Up System is a start though at least.

Feels good knowing I'm dealing pretty much my maximum damage.

[signal kite]

@hidden creek I think your eminem of yapping title upgraded to yap royalty

https://tenor.com/view/aharen-san-aharen-san-anime-aharen-aharen-anime-anime-gif-25554809

[wind light]

bussssss

[tacit nest]

im genuinely concerned on how people are beating paragon 3 dude

[twin ledge]

Rock boss is actually a lot more easy than u would think if u played way back rock boss was a lot harder than it is now

I find him as one of the most easy bosses after a few nerfs they have done to him

[tacit nest]

im defusing and countering good

[twin ledge]

Just too predictably now

[tacit nest]

bros not letting me hit him

[twin ledge]

Is he doing that jumping?

The jumping back?

[tacit nest]

nah i can defuse ts easily

[twin ledge]

If he is don’t chase him

[tacit nest]

bro turns into jackie chan with a 7 hit combo

[twin ledge]

That can be fixed by standing behind the second boss

U just have to dodge fewer but some of them hits u anyways

The 2nd boss shouldn’t even attack much at all

[tacit nest]

hide behind rock monster?

i didnt know you could do that

[twin ledge]

U can but if ur using a character that needs to be pretty close to attack it wont work since attacks do go through boss

Just use stone guy as like a barrier from stopping rock from moving to much

I’ll have to try it cause I didn’t try it yet in Yama idk if it works same in there or they changed it

But I’ll test it in a little for u if u still didn’t beat

[wind light]

sweating

[tacit nest]

i cant do it bro i been trying lol

i got better build than most of the players beating it

i just wanna know how these other guys are getting their attacks in cuz this mf not letting me breathe

george floydin my ahh

[wind light]

whatchu need is learning pattern

watch video

ask dark sero secret sauce

lol

[tacit nest]

@fierce light

[wind light]

i think you can ask him recording finish paragon 3

learn his movemenr

if you need to finish the yama abyss slap some defuse and counter recovery

[tacit nest]

i alr watched his vid, dark has 100 mod too

bro was throwing his skill alot more than i can

This is my build

[twin ledge]

U only have 25% mod?

[tacit nest]

yeah

[twin ledge]

That’s why

[tacit nest]

i know bro

[twin ledge]

Would say u need around 75% for it to actually start doing dmg maybe 50 since u have decent amount of windfall

[tacit nest]

but im getting beat by players with no rares at all either

i guarantee its skill issue lol

but still, damn

[twin ledge]

What build tho

[tacit nest]

same

poison lotus

i see some here and there thats ice lotus but mainly poison

[twin ledge]

Leaderboards so weird this season

Xbox seems to be the only one using poison builds in Yama

[tacit nest]

i cant even imagine pc leaderboards

💀

[twin ledge]

1 minute times with thunder

Burn*

[fierce light]

Much easier with Thunder Scorch for sure

[twin ledge]

But I think players are looking at zero build in Yama and using it cause Xbox really is only one using poison that’s interesting

[fierce light]

I'm only doing Poison as a challenge, wouldn't recommend it

[twin ledge]

Well thunder burn most players can’t use tho cause relys a lot on ping

Plus it’s a little harder on controller

[twin ledge]

I honestly want to see time u will get on last stage with poison

Just hope ice lotus isn’t so broken in trios Yama tbh

[fierce light]

Single Thunder Counter does almost double of a full burst for Lotus builds.

Not including the parries you can farm in Solo Yama's at least.

[twin ledge]

Yueshan might still be best to use tho

Yueshan on ice lotus is just to broken to not use

So maybe ice lotus yueshan and 2 thunder burns

[fierce light]

https://youtu.be/fsI1QLwcROw
Here's a run I did earlier with Tarka. Slower than the Feria time, but eh gets the job done.

Hmm not quite sure why it has no sound. Guess it recorded with no audio. OBS being weird.

[tacit nest]

Your blasts doing hella damage

Too

You make it look so damn easy

Lotuses seem to just be sprouting hella more, is that cuz of mod?

[fierce light]

If both bosses stand in the Poison Pool it spawns a little more

Mod certainly helps, but with Tarka you can make up for it with his Ultimate. I just kinda forgot about it till the end.

[tacit nest]

In general tho your shi looks a lot more damaging

You basically have max everything tho

[sly kestrel]

lotus orbs

do no dmg

any idea why?

[wind light]

is it the one floating around you ? or the big one

[sly kestrel]

floating around u

then do dmg when it explodes

[wind light]

did you use the potential point for the lotus impact dmg

[sly kestrel]

yea doing that

[wind light]

it suppose to do little dmg

[sly kestrel]

but its doing low dmg

[twin ledge]

just check pinned messages btw for potentials

zero has everything pinned

[wind light]

if you want 40% lotus impact dmg

[sly kestrel]

hmm but its not in the pinds

pins*

which one is better

[twin ledge]

for ice or poison

[sly kestrel]

ice

[twin ledge]

this then

[sly kestrel]

alr

[twin ledge]

this exact one should be best for ice

[cyan grove]

Incredible, can you show your build please?

I used a red stone to get Scorching again on my poison build, I'm so tired of the rng in PVE

I only have 1 Windfall so far

and 6 moderation

[hexed jungle]

anyone online in na? gotta get threw nightscream story

[astral widget]

i hate this XD

[polar light]

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matari after the upcoming update

[fickle linden]

i hate rock

[chrome seal]

Didn't ult change as well?

[polar light]

yeah

(2) Ultimate Adjustment is the following Buffs:
Put yourself into [Stealth] and Reset Skill.
· During [After them. Soul] causes extra Damage and cools down faster.
· Attack enemies will provide themselves with recovery.
(3) Matari Dagger's special skill [Dreadful Wail] is adjusted to the golden body throughout, and a certain amount of adsorption Buffs are added appropriately, and it can be interrupted by Activate Quick Dash after No. 2 Attack.

[hexed jungle]

anyone want to join together we stand nightscream? need 1 on NA server

[fierce light]

I show the build at the end lmao

[fierce light]

Wdym

[astral widget]

I mean, i hate this Boss cd

Btw i didnt know for this moment i can block Cammon attack click right and left

And i did paragon 2 without it xd

[fierce light]

Sad they didn't buff her Aegis-Break Skill to normal levels, but still a nice change.

[fierce light]

Should be converting those extra 2 Moderations to something else before using Flux Jades.

[polar light]

yeah

lets hope the old matari come back after the update

[woeful bay]

I'm a little confused - what do I do with the souljades I don't use?

Blue ones: Use it to upgrade main souljades?
Purple and Gold ones: Deconstruct?

Is that correct?

Ty

What do I do with the Souljade Fragments I got from deconstructing them?

[hidden creek]

use it to recast your jades

have you never recast your soul jades before?

[woeful bay]

no

I only played showdown levels and equipped the ones with the highest sense level

but now my inventory is full

I once looked up a thunder build but I didn't have all the jades and was too lazy to learn how to get them to a high sense level

figured now is a good time to learn a little what to do besides battle

[hexed jungle]

anyone want to help me get 9stars on doom i need 1 more person

[ionic wren]

Anyone help with gelid yushan night scream

[lean yew]

Guys how to level up this, i want to my sense into 1000+

[lean yew]

[astral widget]

Play nirrits ruin on normal lvl

Speed run it and after every game upgrade Ur sense level

U have to just spam nirrit ruin

[lean yew]

i played morethan 1 year still ididint noticed this one, (well im color blind)

[hidden creek]

tbf it was added recently

but still

how do you even played for 1 year and dont know how to level up your sense

[astral widget]

xDD

[lean yew]

i level up one by one,, i dont know anything

i play only bot mode

[hidden creek]

well yeah that method still works

[astral widget]

@hidden creek how many build have u maxed?

[hidden creek]

none

[astral widget]

Oh

[hidden creek]

i got all functioned hydroflare, tsorch, plm, ilm, but none of them are 12 rares

most are at 6-8 rares

[fierce light]

It spreads out the levels for you evenly automatically now.

[hexed jungle]

whats the difference in challange and normal for event?

is it worth doing challange just to level up jades?

[tacit nest]

i can help

[fierce light]

Challenge consumes 45 Fatigue while Normal consumes 30. They both have the same drop rate and Souljades per fatigue.

[fierce light]

I can help too

[woeful bay]

that makes two

[tacit nest]

you still on?

[short meadow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/605916492642517034/742125869203456041/q_wea_1-1-1.gif

Umm

[ionic wren]

Finished it thanks tho if u wana help on first nightscream boss

[tacit nest]

yezzir

gimme two mins, in nirriti

[ionic wren]

Ok

[tacit nest]

whats player id?

[ionic wren]

5348800060171

[fierce light]

So finally got around to frame counting Lotus Impact. It ticks at a rate of 1 per second.

[tacit nest]

whats that mean?

[ionic wren]

5348800060171

[tacit nest]

says your offline cant inv you

[ionic wren]

What’s your id

[tacit nest]

10672000150169

[fierce light]

Every second the spinning flowers will hit an enemy. Assuming you have 4 active.

[ionic wren]

U on eu?

[tacit nest]

im not

NA

[ionic wren]

Saids your offline

[tacit nest]

i just switched to eu

to inv you

[ionic wren]

Oh I switched to na lol

[tacit nest]

stay there

im coming back

[ionic wren]

Ok

I’m on eventide

First one

[tacit nest]

you think they should spin faster or no?

[hidden creek]

he did it to calculate the spinning lotuses dps
for his whoosy washy mathematically moonrune equations

[woeful bay]

What is a good build for casuals?

[fierce light]

4 Lotus Impacts = 1 Bloom Blast in Damage.
Lotus Aegis Break brings that to:

• 2.4 Lotus Impacts = 1 Bloom Blast
  So Lotus Aegis Break might deserve more credit than I thought. Especially for heroes who don't benefit from a Moderation build.

[fierce light]

Ice Lotus build, with Cinderfrost as it's optional jade.

[hidden creek]

yeah, sadly it's still not worth it to make a build focused on the spinning lotus