👾┃showdown

[woven ingot]

Alrighht thanks. i'll try to find some time to try him a bit. Being already without fatigue means I got time I guess.
The canon part with Feria is all fun and games, and after 3 hits ... it's way less fun and games >.>

The gun part feels like "look at me, I'm doing tons of noise and light!!! Doing damage? Nope, why?"

That fits well with Feria's personality, can't argue with that.

[fierce light]

It does bonus Aegis damage

But it's still very little

[timber vapor]

quick question, can you roll a rare attritube if u alr have one on the jade? or just with the flux?

[fierce light]

Only with flux

[timber vapor]

thanks

[granite marsh]

Not sure if hidden hard pity at work but just recasted a rare into a max stat with 300+ shards and the next souljade I recasted from a normal stat immediately turned into a rare

[timid stirrup]

the question now is..... was it the rare you wanted tho?

[round glacier]

Ive seen rare turn into max stats

Got a mod into poison 30%

Maybe its something new

[fierce light]

Yeah you just recast it till the max attribute appears

[tacit nest]

6 windfall now on poison lotus

[timid stirrup]

nice congrats

[plucky hill]

.

[thorn narwhal]

i think they really should just do a big red alert text, i didn't even know that (i) existed till today

[glad egret]

anyone hot guides/builds for yueshan lowkey sm a huge noob and am kinda confuse on what souljades to use plus am hard stuck at gold 2

[tacit nest]

just got all jades for ice lotus @fierce light

now from your opinion

you think i should start upgrading ice

then debtach poison for the flux?

[fierce light]

I wouldn't recommend doing all that if you already had some rares in poison, especially the Moderation for it. Just if you were starting with neither build Ice Lotus would be ideal due to its easier use.

They could easily buff Poison next season by reducing the stacks from 6 to 5 for Toxin Blast

[tacit nest]

ill trust your word

[fierce light]

There's some builds listed in the pins alongside a site with more builds and their specifics

[tacit nest]

im working against my own impatience lol

im seeing everyone say ice is better for more blasts

and i still got no mod on my poison

[fierce light]

Poison can have up to 4 Bloomblasts per Poison Blast vs Ice's 3.

They compare like this though (not including Toxin Blast):

[tacit nest]

ima take yo word

plus your using poison over ice

[tacit nest]

everyone in the showdown store yall can get a pack of 10 elixers for 10 bucks

[tacit nest]

FINALLLY BRO

[woven ingot]

Congrats 🙂

[tacit nest]

just three more......

sighh

[glad egret]

thank you for the tip just checked some builds

btw is there any way tk get rid of fatigue?

[woven ingot]

No nothing you can do except waiting for the weekly reset, which will bring back your fatigue to 0.

[glad egret]

aw rip

[tacit nest]

i got a challenge for an enigma peak

if someone can play the poison with me so i can get the challenge for 6 bosses

it would be mucho appreciated

[lapis sundial]

Anyone wanna run peak with me and fantome? Need a third

[drifting lance]

🎉 | nocturnalnico leveled up!

[wind light]

fatigue is maxed

what im doing with my life now

[fierce light]

Knocking these out in 1m20s

[plain spire]

https://www.tiktok.com/@nhocvotinhh/video/7458334453123812626?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc

Build what??

[spice canyon]

#👾┃showdown message

[plain spire]

You need that gold elixer for it to work like in the video?

[spice canyon]

Elixir is just an attack buff, you need 100% moderation (75% can work but slightly slow)
Also +4 ice wielding and +2 thunder/poison

[plain spire]

Im trying it with wuchen and it works damn i kinda like this build

[fierce light]

Oh the Kurumi Support build is back

[fiery rock]

First time I get in a match with zero

[wind light]

this build is like 100 moderation

but how

no attacking but still decrease CD

[plain spire]

The yushan shadow proc the ice blast so skill resets with 100% mod

[fierce light]

Yushan Shadows is guaranteed to proc Ice Blast cause it has so much accumulation value.

[wind light]

ahhhh

yes

i didnt know that we can defuse frozen

[plain spire]

yushan shadow jade

pretty cool build on wuchen

[spice canyon]

Yeah wuchen is fun to use too for unlimited shield but it has low damage output because of +4 wielding
It's only good for kurumi due to her skill giving attack buff (technically permanent with this build), thus will cover the damage reduction on -2 ice wielding

[fierce light]

4 Ice-Wielding = 5/7 Ice Blast DMG (-28.5%).

[wind light]

'

secret

[plain spire]

current enigma peak only on new map ?

[fierce light]

Yeah, it's pretty much always on the newer map

[plain spire]

such a map distance between each mob camp so far and no portal.

[timid stirrup]

There's catapults ^.^

Not as good as portals but still something

[fierce light]

Yeah, gotta take the catapults to get around, but they're pretty iffy with the height

[celest quest]

Thoughts? Is this a decent Yama’s Abyss build?

Ofc my poison tree is almost completely maxed too

[round glacier]

Probably a hard no lol

[wind light]

no

[celest quest]

😭😩😂

[restive wraith]

plesae check pin messages...

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Mea leveled up!

[wind light]

watch dark zero build

[plain spire]

https://dark-zer0.github.io/Showdown/build.html?option=1

[round glacier]

Get cyan fang for kurumi

Ghastbloom and poison lotus are also required

Cyan fang is an easily spammable that builds poison fast

[celest quest]

Is there a way to farm specifically for that one

I saw that on a build I was trying to copy but I don’t have it

[round glacier]

Uhhh niriti is best

But now i would just farm suffer no demon

Suffer drops alot of key jades

Personally i safe the choice gift jades to pick the ones i need but it does require you to have unlocked the requirements

For now farm suffers no demon to get your sense level to max

Well at least to 1100

[celest quest]

Okay, one more question for now. Would you say that Miasma Drive is one worth getting for a poison build Kurumi?

[round glacier]

Its worth it

At least till you get ghastbloom and poison lotus

[wind light]

my g i read your github , what i was asking yesterday if thunder lotus stronger than ice . it was a mistake i mean if ice thunder lotus better than ice lotus

[wind light]

i maxed fatigue like in 2 hours

[round glacier]

Ice lotus is stronger then ice thunder i pressume

[wind light]

idk what to do now

[round glacier]

True that lol

[plain spire]

Play the event in showdown it drops only the current meta poison lotus and ice lotus set souljades

[celest quest]

Gotcha

Thank u all for the advice!!

[plain spire]

burn all you fatigue in the event to get everything in current meta

[wind light]

you tried ice thunder yet ?

[celest quest]

I’m not completely sure what burn my fatigue in the event means haha

[wind light]

max the 2400 fatigue

use all of them

[celest quest]

Thx

[plain spire]

To get drop you need to spend fatigue it starts at 0/2400 first 600 fatigue spent is 150% drop then the next 1200 fatigue spent is 100% the last 600 fatigue 1800/2400 is 75% drop

[signal kite]

The weekly fatigue should be 4800 during the suffer no demon event

Most of the players fatigue is already filled and now we don't have any reason to open the game , at least I don't,, conspiracy theory part 4

[round glacier]

Thunder pull and counter with sub zero used to be the build

Thunder sorch is top with hydro and ice or poison lotus coming after that in terms of strength

Thunder sorch you run with ice For fast build up

[wind light]

ice thunder lotus

pull counter counterlotus ghast elementlotus

[short meadow]

300/2400

[spice canyon]

Daily event 😭

[round glacier]

You run for that witj ice?

[wind light]

and ice blast i forgot to mentionn i was outside

this one @round glacier

[fierce light]

You generally want to pick an element and go all 6 of it. Going for multiple elements will just make you do a fraction of the damage of each of them.

[fierce light]

Ice Lotus build is more reliably strong.

[celest quest]

Noted

[signal kite]

https://youtu.be/ynVvak-C0zM?si=IU151tzBchh02X3_

[wind light]

thats THE build

best feeling when spamming F

mario

[vivid jacinth]

how do you get to x12 windfall? x6 attack? does this mean get windfall twice on a jade?

[hidden creek]

yes

[vivid jacinth]

is there presently a way to select the rare attribute or is it luck for the second one?

[wind light]

luck

[fierce light]

Luck for both

[hidden creek]

even the first one is about luck

[wind light]

pray for naraka god

[vivid jacinth]

ooof

no wonder the scorching build is costly

[wind light]

how about we have 200% moderation

[rotund frigate]

whats the best build for yueshan?

[wind light]

16 scroching

[wind light]

https://youtu.be/ynVvak-C0zM?si=IU151tzBchh02X3_

right here

approved by zero

[hidden creek]

lol if he can clear peak solo then his build is approved by everyone

[woven ingot]

ahah

Great run, great video.

[wind light]

PEAK

[wind light]

it was ice wielding peak right ?

[woven ingot]

Yep.

[wind light]

wonder if that build can clear 2 other peak

[hidden creek]

hard

he got 30s left

[woven ingot]

I doubt or at a very low chance. It ends with 30 seconds left. Knowing that you get Ice Damage bonus for being in the "right" element.

[hidden creek]

and ice peak he got +30% ice blast dmg increase

also

this run he didn't get manticore

[wind light]

manticore eerie is pain in the ass

full health yueshan die by the thunder wave

2 hit

[woven ingot]

Successing the run is not a 100% chance, probably far from it.
Needs good RNG overall, and to really play your hero well. Over the 17 min run there was a very few "fails" at parry/defuse. Not something easy to pull off in Peak solo under the pressure of the timer.
And not every hero will do that, I wouldn't hop on Matari or Tianhai and hope the run is going to be a success 😂

[rotund frigate]

only if i could figure out the souljades 😭

[woven ingot]

I can't read their names, but from the icons and what happens in the run it seems to be the normal Ice Mod Lotus build.
The only slight change is on the potential.

Dropping the red part of tree for +40% damage on lotus hits and increased damage on thunder hits. I don’t get the thunder damage, so one of the usual ice jade may be a « do thunder damage on hit/dodge/skill » instead.

[vivid jacinth]

if you keep recasting can you roll a rare attribute?

[woven ingot]

If you don't already have a rare attribute on your Jade, yes.

If you already have one and want a second rare attribute, you need to use a Flux jade.

[vivid jacinth]

cool thanks

just got a windfall yay

[woven ingot]

Congrats on being lucky ^^

[fierce light]

He got rid of the red part of the tree to get the extra Rage Generation from Blue tree and put the remaining point in some Aegis DMG.

Although, not sure why he didn't just go for the extra rage on green as well.

[woven ingot]

You sure for Aegis Damage? From what I saw he took Epiphany and Divine Storm.

[hidden creek]

what thunder damage?

[fierce light]

It doesn't touch Divine Storm

[hidden creek]

it's just normal mod ice lotus

with the potential more focused on gaining rage bcoz yueshan

that's all

[woven ingot]

None, just my old eyes being terrible.
He took the node before Divine Thunder for rage per damage, but not Divine Thunder 😂

[hidden creek]

also yeah, he didn't take all the possible rage node

but choose an aegis dmg node instead

well ig if it works it works

i don't have his build nor skill to figure out why anyway

😂

but that's crazy

you could say

[woven ingot]

The skill part is the main problem 😂

[hidden creek]

this is what peak performance looks like

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

[woven ingot]

I saw what you did there!

[hidden creek]

[woven ingot]

I'm nearly there, I manage to ... 4 bosses! Half done! Oh ... wait ...

[hidden creek]

don't think it's possible on any hero but yueshan though

[woven ingot]

Tessa maybe for the high damage output and easy multi defusing. But she doesn't have that crazy Ultimate that let you face tank anything without caring.

[hidden creek]

exactly

you gonna have to spend some time defusing and dodging, lead to dps lost

[woven ingot]

In Paragon 2, more than 2 hours of Tessa which I'm used to, but I'm terrible at multi target fights: 1m13, 19th at ranking.
30 min of Yueshan yesterday just to train a bit with him: 52 sec, 7th at ranking.
Ok gotcha, someone makes things easier in multi targeting.

[woven ingot]

Tessa got the advantage to be able to do damage between two defusings thanks to her LMB after a defuse. But in most cases it won't beat an Ultimate that let you face tank anything beside Manticore's breath and do absurdly high damage in the meantime.

[hidden creek]

lol no

that defuse into lmb into defuse deals like 0 dmg

[wind light]

rage/dmg or rage/second

[hidden creek]

it is an advantage yes but more on the gameplay side not the dmg

[woven ingot]

It doesn't deal much I'm afraid if you have to stop the LMB early, but it's conveniant for easy multi defuse.

[hidden creek]

yeah, convenient

[hidden creek]

wdym

if you mean what to choose between rage/dmg and rage/s then rage/s

[wind light]

from potential skill tree

[hidden creek]

yes, rage/s

[woven ingot]

Yeah checking the exact damage, Tessa's LMB after defuse is 1580 damage (912 dps), her RMB (normal defuse punisher) is only 505 damage (481 dps).
So the LMB is doing good damage/dps and allows you to instant defuse at will, but I don't know how that damage is done (mainly at start of the move, mainly at the end?), so what is it worth when you have to break it after 1-2 hits of the 6 hits combo.
Her "true" defuse being terrible at damage/dps/element accumulation, but as the advantage to be really fast so you're not stuck in an animation.
Yueshan is "who cares lol?" LMB after defuse is a short 1 sec animation for 1127 damage (1150 dps) and decent element accumulation. Or he can simply stay like that a re-defuse at will.
Not every hero plays fair to the others 😂

[fierce light]

There's no charge time for the LMB like usual, so it's DPS is much higher, even if you have to cancel it. Basically only RMB for Infectious Touch or if boss needs to be downed during a time period.

Finally hit 1000 Carved Crystals. Honestly wish the Value Recast didn't consume Souljade Fragments as well.

[round glacier]

Yup shit load carved not being used lol

[wind light]

1 recast cost 1 jade is dream

[hidden creek]

why are you guys calculating the lmb dps while it's not even about what we're discussing lol

i said COMPARE TO YUESHAN that exclusive mechanic of tessa which allows her to release lmb charged attack after a defuse is nothing in term of dps, that's why despite having that move she won't be able to catch up with yueshan on damages and won't be able to clear peak solo as he could

i never said that defuse couter attack deals more dps compare to lmb charged attack

[woven ingot]

I'd think Tessa can solo a Peak, but that will need an excellent player and a good RNG. But I'd think it possible.

As for carved, I hope one day they'll give us a way to trade them for Fragments or do something with them. Or ... give a better balance between Carved and Jade Fragments. Because that doesn't look good.

[hidden creek]

nah not possible

[woven ingot]

Never say never Tabbie!
Ok maybe you can say "Tianhai and Matari will never solo Peak in 2.5".

[fierce light]

If only this jade was any good

[woven ingot]

Maybe one day we will have a Jade recast system like for recasting attributes. And if it could use Carved crystal for it, it would be perfect ^^

[hidden creek]

crystal to jade fragments exchange was asked for since forever lol

[limpid pecan]

i think they could just delete crystals

there is no need to have 2 currencies for one thing

or crystals is currency to farm for flux jades

[woven ingot]

That would feel awesome.

[fickle linden]

has anyone ever ran outta crystals?

[fierce light]

Before they increased the drop rate of crystals to a decent amount, it happened a lot.

So now it's just Fragments holding us back

[woven ingot]

Having two currencies for that will always lead to one currency dragging us down. As Imba said, they should remove one currency period, no reason to have two.

[fierce light]

500+ fragments down to not even max 2 attributes from 95%

Absolute BS

[woven ingot]

The very end of the maxing can be terrible. Not sure what's the exact success chance, but it's clearly not high.

[hidden creek]

if it's true random then welp

[woven ingot]

Everything that is random related in Naraka feels like "welp!" to me 😂

[spice canyon]

max value > rare

[hidden creek]

yeah they got so many true random rng and also without pity

not even a soft pity

[fierce light]

The fact they didn't add Value Pity pmo so much

and that something like this can happen...

Chance for it to increase should be 100% cause really

[spice canyon]

happen to me

[woven ingot]

That 29.9% definitely hurts. Because you know you'll need 100-200 fragments just to do those 0.1 missing %.
I got 3 Ice Blast damage above 29.3% that i'll do last, because it's going to be a fragment sink, that will lead to not even gaining the whole benefit, same for 3.9 attack.

[hidden creek]

i got one jade from 3.6 to 3.9 attk and my attk stays the same

then finally get it to 4.0 and my attk increased by 1

😂

[cyan grove]

Pure luck

[woven ingot]

The 3 Jades I got close to being maxed. Except for one atk that reached the max everything else is going to be an abyss for fragments and won't give the full benefit of successing an upgrade :/

[cyan grove]

But I still need someone to show me a clip of Viper with this build playing Paragon 1 or 2 please

[woven ingot]

At least you got something out of it!

[woven ingot]

Congrats, it's always nice when it goes the "right" way for you.

[cyan grove]

fr, I currently have 5 moderation

I wasn't able to get something else

[hushed crane]

anyone knows what build u can spam f with yueshan?

[hidden creek]

any ice build that got 100% mod

[hushed crane]

attribute from soul jade?

[granite marsh]

Just 4 moderations will do

Ice > atk > dmg to boss/Windfall

[hushed crane]

got it .Thx!!

[hearty rivet]

When rolling 2 rares on throwaway souljades and and using those to reroll your stat to max seems faster than simply rerolling it to max 💀

[fierce light]

Honestly considering that for my 2% Attack rolls

[daring frost]

Guys so I cant send a picture but i got souljades like GhastBloom, Suc Ice Blast, Frozen Blast, Elemental lotus, etc and im wonder how those proc

And why do i keep icing up every now and then?

[fierce light]

1. Attack enemies to accumulate Frostbite on them.
2. Once enough Frostbite has accumulated, Ice Blast will occur.
3. Successive Ice Blast turns 1 Ice Blast into 3.
4. Elemental Lotus spawns a Lotus for every Ice Blast.
5. Frozen Blast reduces the cooldown of these Ice Blasts to 4s.
6. Sub-Zero Seal builds Frostbite on yourself overtime for extra damage.
7. Tundra Might makes you build Frostbite on enemies faster whenever you gain Frostbite.
8. When Lotus expire or are replaced, Ghastbloom will summon a bigger one that explodes.

[daring frost]

Thanks, i was confused if i had to use defuse or parrying to proc them this makes more sense

[rough gate]

anyone down for some peaks!

[tacit nest]

capped on fatigue now

[thorn narwhal]

suffer no demon > suffer all blues

[granite marsh]

Thats a wild amount of catchup

[fierce light]

Crazy bad luck for sure

[fickle linden]

wtf

how is that even possible

[woven ingot]

A nice and fast down.

[tacit nest]

Is that bad?

That’s a lot of jades you earn?

[fierce light]

My stats went from this

To this (ignore the extra Windfall on Infectious Touch, got that last week after the photo)

So guess I did make slightly better progress then I thought, but still hurt to see that 500+ fragments go down the drain so quickly.

[thorn narwhal]

obviously, got 22 useless jades instead of getting something useful from the event

[fierce light]

That from 150% rewards?

[tacit nest]

What’s the whole thing about catch up system

I’ve just seen that once you hit fatigue you get jade drops

I thot it was good

[fierce light]

Basically the more you get, the more runs you've had with below average drops.

[tacit nest]

So if I run ten times in enigma and my drops were below average

I get catch up points?

Or jade drops

[fierce light]

Yes, but hard to reach it in Enigma Topaz since the expected drops are low by default.

[tacit nest]

Or nirriti

Ok

That’s a cool system

[thorn narwhal]

no with 150% it'll be like 9k

[analog aspen]

using legendary keys with randoms feels so bad when playing enigma peak...

[fierce light]

That's painful

[analog aspen]

I mean I'm also just a beginner but some people just afk half of the time

[fierce light]

They mine as well do Suffer No Demon then

[analog aspen]

I got the same dudes again

[tacit nest]

Lmfao

Halfway to ten million damage

Is crazy

[timid stirrup]

Nice it looks good

I want to drop my defuse recovery for attack but I like the heal

[fierce light]

Defuse Recovery is probably nice for Trios,

[tacit nest]

well you can still have both no?

there is 6 total jades

[hearty rivet]

yay, for the very last suffer no demons of the week

[timid stirrup]

I have 8wf 4mod 6 pb dmg 5atk 1 defuse recovery. So it's either 6 atk or 1 recovery

[tacit nest]

do 3 and 3

or 4 and 2

[timid stirrup]

1 recovery is fine. at max its 400

[tacit nest]

whats that mean

it says 200

you talking ab windfall

[timid stirrup]

yes 2x wf

[sullen pawn]

so they removed impassable only from topaz, you can still get it in peak

[chrome seal]

So I consumed all my stamina for this week ever. Anything I can do to keep getting rewards or is it just done until Wednesday now and I can only wait?

[chrome seal]

Consumed fatigue*

[hearty rivet]

No, it's over. Please, have some rest and enjoy your weekend (or work on your yama time)

[trim pulsar]

Question, if you have a rare attribute (scorching) on a soul jade, can you reroll it, would you be able to get a rare attribute?

[fading cobalt]

are there any different on suffer no demon stage between normal and challenger?
did challenger had more drop and potential exp?

[fierce light]

Normal consumes 30 Fatigue, Challenge consumes 45 Fatigue.

Same amount of Souljades per Fatigue though and same drop rate.

[plain spire]

1 rare on your souljade you can reroll it into another rare but it still relies on how lucky you are sometimes you're lucky but will get the same rare (ex. scorching +2 recast into another scorching +1-3) or you can recast that scorching into another ordinary max attributes and try another attempt of rare into different not max attributes.

[compact cairn]

hey guys, anyone online that can help me get 9 stars on the doom domain?

can't really find a party with the matchmaking

[plain spire]

server you're playing?

[compact cairn]

EU

[plain spire]

I can only play in AS 🙃

[woven ingot]

I can. Give me 5-10 min

[compact cairn]

niiiiiiice, i have been in queue for 40m so i can defo wait 10m :D

[woven ingot]

After Wednesday it can be hard to find people to do Doom through queue.

Even more when it's the Suffer no Demon and everywone burned his fatigue and is playing something else ^^

What's your ID or Name?

[compact cairn]

539000130166

[novel shell]

Luckiest recast ever lol 😄

[hidden creek]

yueshan paragon 2 - tscorch 17s

[daring frost]

guys is the best way to increase sense level just finishing the story mode to enigma peak?

[hidden creek]

suffer no demon/nirriti/topaz enigma (not peak, if you're still leveling up your sense then it's certain you're not qualified for peak)

[granite marsh]

What in the cannon trickshot

[daring frost]

im at 770 sense level

[hidden creek]

go spam the event map then

[daring frost]

also isnt suffer no demon limited time?

oh ok

also how does fatigue recover?

[granite marsh]

Resets every week

[daring frost]

[daring frost]

does it matter if i do the first or 2nd stage of chapter 1?

[woven ingot]

No the Jades per fatigue are the same in the end.

[woven ingot]

That's .. I don't even get what's he doing 😂

[daring frost]

i saw this person on yt smack this buddha boss to death

[sacred hull]

I'm struggling with the event challenge. Can anyone help on EU?

[formal thicket]

Hello, searching 2 fellow member to do Doom, Immovable for 3 stars

[woven ingot]

The queue should still work well, any team will bring you through that one. And you only really need it once for the first clear, after that you can farm on the normal version.

[woven ingot]

If you didn't found anyone in 15ish minutes, let me know, I'll start the game.

[woeful monolith]

Title should be Tscorch on 20 ping 17 second the usual

[hidden creek]

even with 20ms, 17s paragon 2 is definitely not ''usual''

[woeful monolith]

You can see the FLux Shard selected 😦

[granite marsh]

Brother at 5 ms I got 1min+ on Para 2💀

[fierce light]

Yup, T Scorch still king at Yama's Abyss

[woven ingot]

What's your ID or player name? If you still need someone for this week Dooms that is.

[heavy gulch]

but he said and want to fool us it was recast

[woeful monolith]

First off 5 ms, I dont think your looking at your server latency unless you literally live in the Naraka Server Location. What build are you running?

[granite marsh]

Ice Mod, 10gb fibre. 2 ms in other games

[woven ingot]

I got a 2-3ms connection, but it turns to 27-30ms in Naraka. You should be around 20-30ms, unless you really live next to the server center and got a direct cable connection to it ^^

[analog aspen]

some people are just not it xD

[fierce light]

Only managed 32s with Poison Lotus

[woven ingot]

If they don't have a Mod build their damage will be kinda low on that event. But most likely reason may be that they are semi afk and hope someone will do the stage while they watch a movie.

[woven ingot]

I gotta like the "only" ^^'

[analog aspen]

yeah I get a lot of afks

I have 0 mod though

[woven ingot]

Maybe platform/server dependent. On the 10 ish queues i joined, everyone played.

If you don't have any Mod yourself, then yeah the score is worrying.

[analog aspen]

I mean with a lotus build its easy to solo

just takes 3min

[woeful monolith]

Ya your misunderstanding 2 ms and also Ice mod in Yama isn't going to get you very fast time. Especially on This specific level.

Anyone wanna run Enigma Topaz, need 1 more

[civic spindle]

whats current highest dps build other than t scorch? i dont have the mechanical skill to pull that one off

[hidden creek]

ice/poison lotus mod

[civic spindle]

okay thanks for the info will try to build one

[timid stirrup]

followed by poison lotus mod

[civic spindle]

will try to decide between both thanks for the info

[tacit nest]

If you haven’t beaten manticore ns

And you play the event

Could you get ghastbloom?

For my buddy

[hidden creek]

can

[woven ingot]

It's part of the loottable, so I don't see any reason for it to be restricted.
You need to kill Manticore if you want to have it from a "chest", but beside that, if the map drop it, you can have it.

Like you can have it in Nirriti NS, even having done Manticore.

[tacit nest]

Jesus your really good

[hidden creek]

not me

[tacit nest]

Oh my bad lol

You sent so I thought

Whoever did that is insane

[tacit nest]

Bet

Thanks

[eager pulsar]

anyone know good jades i should use when doing yamas abyss? i’m maiming tessa for this one n i want to use the lotus jades

[hexed jungle]

can someone carry my doom for me ???? o.o

[hidden creek]

you can just check the yama leaderboard

[wind light]

fatigue should be reset everyday

or increase 2400 to 4800 for week reset

💀💀

[hidden creek]

daily fatigue is an even worse system

[eager pulsar]

ayeee smart ian even think of that, thanks

[wind light]

with 2400 fatigue cap and reset everyday

imagine

farming all day

[fierce light]

The drop rates would probably be justifiable with daily reset at the current fatigue amount.

[hidden creek]

if this is the case then better just remove the fatigue system entirely already 😂

[wind light]

so same fatigue spend but you can get 2 gold jade if you lucky ? i mean everything is rng despite the 35-45 fatigue ?

[wind light]

😭😭😭 ok then we should increase the cap to 4800 fatigue

[fierce light]

Most would probably just farm the first 600 fatigue everyday

maybe 1200 on weekends.

[wind light]

600 is sweet spot

yummy

100% and 75% yuckyyyyy

[hidden creek]

when he said daily fatigue i was imagining 2400 divide by 7

and that is definitely worse 😂

but 2400 everyday is too generous

that they might aswell remove the fatigue system already at that point

[fierce light]

Would be broken with the current event

But yeah Enigma Domain shouldn't consume any

[hidden creek]

since it already require a key to enter, yeah

[wanton wadi]

Anyone know a good yoto hime build

[fierce light]

Keys would have a lot of value then for sure

[fierce light]

Any of the Lotus builds with Aerial Rend

or Thunder Scorch

[wanton wadi]

Thankyou

Where can i find lotus builds

[fierce light]

CheckPins

[wind light]

too worse since you will lost any unused fatigue ,

[hollow herald]

I got it from souljade gift, never defeat Manticore ns

[hidden creek]

random sj gift yeah, sj of choice gift can't

[signal kite]

I don't like fatigue system ,,there should be no restriction ,,farm how much u want

[hidden creek]

well the issue with fatigue system is it limits our playtime
and playtime limiting is needed
we just need a better system of it

[fierce light]

It does help to prevent burn out, especially when trying to catch up

[hexed vapor]

So it's possible to get 2nd rare from recast? 👀

[novel shell]

Only via imbue

[ebon parrot]

gys what should i do with this jade

1. try to roll windfall into mod
2. deconstruct
3. use flux jade
4. reroll winfall into max stat and try again

[fickle linden]

why not keep windfall?

[woven ingot]

Already have a rare, a near maxed Ice Blast, and two stats above 50%. It's good for me.

[ebon parrot]

oh ok

[fierce light]

Has a lot of decently high stats. Not sure why you'd want to deconstruct that

[woven ingot]

That's the Elemental you use for your build, you don't have another one, do you?

[ebon parrot]

i do but theyre low stats

[fierce light]

I'd say get 1 rare on all the jades before trying to do that.

[ebon parrot]

ye i only have one jade left that doesnt have a rare

i only got 25 mod 🥲

[woven ingot]

If it's the only one, I'd definitely keep that. I wish mine had been like that at start.
You Flux Ranged Resist. If it's MOD or WF you keep. If it's Scorch you reroll it until you got a maxed stat and Flux Armor.
(Not saying you have to do it right now if your other Jades are in need of attention, but how I'd handle that one when it's its turn to shine ^^)

[ebon parrot]

ah ok

also question

if i flux jade it

and its a second rare

and i reroll that rare, theres still a chance of getting rare?

cuz ik that u cant roll a second rare

[woven ingot]

Nope. It will always be a normal.

[ebon parrot]

ah

[woven ingot]

Even if you reroll it, you still have a rare on that Jade. So the system won't allow a second.

[ebon parrot]

so if i do get a scorch i would need to use another flux

to roll?

[woven ingot]

Yes.

[ebon parrot]

ah ok got it got it

[woven ingot]

Once you got a rare, it's when troubles start 😂

[ebon parrot]

🥲

alrighty thanks guys

[woven ingot]

The reroll system can be a bit tricky to be used efficiently. And seen how low the RNG is in Naraka, don't hesitate to ask.
Way better than hurt yourself badly by trying things and see what happens ^^

[fierce light]

Getting 4 Mods early can also be a curse

Since then you're only looking for Windfalls, so 1/3 chance of success for your 2nd rares instead of 2/3.

[woven ingot]

That's true. But not having at least 3 Mods is also a curse. So in the end: choose your curse!

[tacit nest]

I’m at 8 windfalls and 1 mod

Can slowly start to see my build more powerful

[woven ingot]

So you're the one getting all our WF?!!

[tacit nest]

Lmfao. I’m the one looking for mod lol

I’m getting lucky

I’ll show my build when I get home

[fierce light]

Ice can accumulate pretty fast even without mod though at least

[timid stirrup]

after getting a rare on all 6 and if 4 are mod i would flux the mods 1st. if i get 2nd mod on the jade i will rr a single mod into a max stat or wf and do another

[daring frost]

is there a vid i can watch on matari in showdown? im tryna see how people use her

[fierce light]

https://youtu.be/iFxAXCrYYuE?si=mw6_f2QVZ81Bzh-C

[woven ingot]

I always found Matari good on mobs thanks to her special attack. But he can also do crazy things on bosses.
If I got it right he uses charged V -> dodge -> Aegis break as his main attack. And defuses/parry in mid air when needed.
Managing to use Matari's defuse isn't easy, as it's a defuse moving forward and the timings are slightly differents. Doing that in mid while keeping your Aegis Break attacks rolling ... waow. Not the thing you'll do when first trying to play her ^^'

[daring frost]

For the reccomended and Cultivation master does anyone really use those?

[hidden creek]

the what now

[daring frost]

When you go to reccomended

[daring frost]

How is the attacks purple

[woven ingot]

Recommended builds in game I'd guess. If so, for many heroes, the last recommended is Ice Mod Lotus, so yes many people use it.

[hidden creek]

extreme dagger skin beyonder stone
it changes the vfx of the attack

[hidden creek]

they actually take data from players to make those recommended builds so yes, they are legit builds

[daring frost]

is the toxic one good? cause i keep getting poisoned while using that set. Also is there a way to prevent frostbite from happening?

[hidden creek]

get rid of poison using infectous touch jade
you can prevent frostbite by using F/V when the freeze is about to happens

[woven ingot]

In the pinned section on that channel, you'll find all the top builds you can use, with the potentials they use. And the attributes that fits best your Jades.

[fierce light]

The players favorites are usually more reliable

[daring frost]

what is F cause my F key is parry

[fierce light]

While the in-game recommendations usually have some degree of synergy (likely from what the devs thought we would build), players favorites tend to have more optimized builds.

[woven ingot]

Player favorites are definitely the one used.
Game recommended are things you can use when you start the game to have a decent progression.

[fierce light]

Your ability or ultimate.

[woven ingot]

F is your skill, V the Ultimate.
If you play them exactly when the freeze starts to appear, it will negate it.

[daring frost]

does everyone get firechant when they use their ability?

[hidden creek]

it's the potential not hero related

[fierce light]

Skilled Fire Chant is from the potential tree, the blue side

[daring frost]

oh cause i see soul jades like Yushan shadows and it looks pretty cool but no build has

[hidden creek]

there's builds used yushan shadows
it's just not optimized

[woven ingot]

It is good. But there are other Jades giving more damage, and people build for damage mainly. As we got only 6 Jade slots, the competition is fierce.

[daring frost]

For mataris Defuse, It's HOld down any key and tapping the opposite then airborne tapping right click again, can you defuse by dashing midair or only right click?

[plain spire]

This thing turns into free gold

[woven ingot]

She has the same defuse as every other on the ground, Hold RMB and then press LMB, or the opposite.
In mid air I'm not sure what the combination is.

[woven ingot]

Yep, I was suprised that my 35 unused tokens turned into 1000 something gold. If I had knew I wouldn't have bought the Tae with them.

[plain spire]

The regret is painfull if only we knew

atleast i can buy pass now free 1300+ gold

[woven ingot]

But maybe it only changed to gold because we did emptied the shop?

[woven ingot]

Nice! You'll have all the shinnies, plus your gold back ^^

[plain spire]

yeah pretty nice gift from them

[hidden creek]

nope

cuz someone got this

[twin ledge]

i use the same key for counter lol

[woven ingot]

waow, ok. Should have saved some then ^^
But that usually doesn't work that way, you only get a few Tae from the leftovers.

[fierce light]

It's likely unintended cause 9400 Gold is too much

[twin ledge]

It’s a bug

I wouldn’t try doing this till it’s fixed btw

[woven ingot]

Should be Tae and not gold I think. It's more or less the quantity of Tae we usually get from leftovers isn't it?

[daring frost]

I played games on roblox like deepwoken and it became muscle memory so i changed it lol

[twin ledge]

I use F for counter because it’s a lot faster than what it was before

[daring frost]

i feel like reaching for G is a burden

[twin ledge]

It was G?

[daring frost]

yes

[twin ledge]

Well there is the the mouse counter

Which I took off

[woven ingot]

The original is G yes. And it's clearly a bit far for most hands.

[twin ledge]

Think it’s because pc has 2 counters

[woven ingot]

I never used the mouse one. What it is?

[twin ledge]

Left and right click at same time

But I removed mine cause it got in the way of defusing

[thorn narwhal]

its only for pvp

[twin ledge]

So I only use F

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Mave leveled up!

[twin ledge]

E is my skill now

[daring frost]

i use C

[woven ingot]

As I thought, it's pvp only, as for PvE it's how we defuse.

[twin ledge]

No works for both

[daring frost]

E is my interact key cause i Elden ring, sekiro, and most games on roblox use E

[twin ledge]

Oh miss read my bad

[woven ingot]

Doesn't that ends poorly sometime? Between Parrying and Defusing? ^^'

[twin ledge]

Idk I’ve had it turned off since the first season when Yama first came out

[woven ingot]

Checking my options, i also directly removed it. Though it would end terribly.

[thorn narwhal]

all of those turning to normal tae, while having 0 from that token what a luck

[woven ingot]

Why are you keeping everything? 😂

SSS class collector? ^^

[thorn narwhal]

i never open inventory

[twin ledge]

Same I have a lot of old event stuff

[wind light]

sometimes i defuse in ranked

sometimes i combo in showdown

full combo to the little evil ent

[sour wedge]

I do this too much

[wind light]

you know that i cant do a proper combo to player in ranked so i must revenge on the little ent

[sour wedge]

hahaha

don't worry, I'm the same way

[timid stirrup]

got this today

[wind light]

nice

[timid stirrup]

i was shocked

immediately put it in my ice build

[tacit nest]

Maxing out fatigue is nice

But man it sucks not being able to play

[fierce light]

True.

[mighty bear]

Is showdown broke rn or something waited in a match for 10 mins 2 times for nothing

[plain spire]

depends on what server you are in and what stage/mode you're queuing

[restive wraith]

well or everyone just cap fatigue already... sadly

[short meadow]

[ebon parrot]

did they add new animas for lotus

i feel like i didnt c this last week

[fierce light]

Yeah with the update that brought Suffer No Demon

[ebon parrot]

ah ok

[tacit nest]

Anyone know a video guide for movement

Controller specifically

[lapis sundial]

Wym

[tacit nest]

Need a movement guide or sum

Feel like I’m slow

[timid stirrup]

if ur switching from kbm to controller u just gotta get used to it

[tacit nest]

Nah

Always controller

[timid stirrup]

oh

hmmm

ive only seen kbm movement vids n tried 2 implement them on controller

[lapis sundial]

Yea there really isn't many for controller tbh

[timid stirrup]

iirc zero has some vids posted where his controller is shown but thats it

[fierce light]

Not that many movement techs ik of.

• Charge and release tech
• Slide-Hop canceling

[daring frost]

is the only way to increase sense level just grinding my sense level soul jades and upgraded my current soul jades with them?

[fierce light]

Yes, it's a very slow, but consistent grind.

[lucid ore]

wait, disposing them give something back?

[plain spire]

How many do you have?

[lucid ore]

Is it gold only for tempest token?

1

[plain spire]

hahaha

i got 34 and it gives 1300+ gold free pass

[lucid ore]

What about other stuffs, like "Prosperity Firecracker"

do we know what it gives?

[plain spire]

only that thing gives gold

[lucid ore]

oh it gives me 40 tae

think they fix it

[plain spire]

aw you miss it

[turbid agate]

what souljades and sense tree is it for thunder scorch build?

[turbid agate]

ty, i always forget that stuff is pinned lol.

[signal kite]

If only i could get such wonders

[woven oracle]

anyone NA on rn?

[buoyant notch]

Okay so this showdown event is fire

You can get the whole meta poison set up without having to grind all the campaign. And grinding all the tedious levels

Not only that but getting. Cool 400-500 showdown pass xp is really nice

And it’s fast and easy to complete not like that one mode that takes forever

[plain spire]

😅 They took back the gold from Tempest emblem im now negative gold 😂

[limpid pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1207822625003274351.png?size=160&name=KurumiEvil

[plain spire]

when i finish the pass i will only be -55 gold and got a free pass + a wuchen legendary outfit 😅

[limpid pecan]

optimal

[hearty rivet]

masterful plan to cause unwanted expenses for your player base 💀

[hidden creek]

💀

[fickle linden]

[subtle bramble]

pain

third time getting scorch on this and two times it gave mod but I already have 100% mod on that build

where are they hiding the windfals

[lone umbra]

[hearty rivet]

story of my life just with mainly excessive mods 😅

[plain spire]

reroll for normal max attributes

[normal socket]

any idea where i can get successive ice blast?

[subtle bramble]

i think i got a bunch from the current suffer no demon challenge event

[normal socket]

oooh

cool thank you @subtle bramble

[subtle bramble]

but there should be some specific story chapter that also gives it, i'll have to check later in game

[fierce light]

Suffer No Demon pretty much gives all the meta jades outside of the Thunder Scorch build.

[normal socket]

what can be used instead of those 2 (optional ones)

[granite marsh]

Sap is a nice

[limpid pecan]

sap, defuse flaming blade, defuse aegis break, stormstride sword (feria/wuchen), renewed vigor

[normal socket]

thank you

[neon brook]

honestly feel like i am doing something wrong with this poison lotus build, can anyone tell what type of build to use and how does it even work

[hidden creek]

4/6 of your jades are wrong

[neon brook]

and should i just farm suffer no demon until i get the right jades?

[neon brook]

thought so

[hidden creek]

check the pin for builds

[normal socket]

look at pinned messages for what souljades u need for specific builds

[neon brook]

thanks

[hidden creek]

and yes

[neon brook]

are the pinned message builds are in any order? like best to worst?

[hidden creek]

no

[fierce light]

You're missing all of the core Jades for Poison itself (Noxious Blast, Pestilent Pool & Infectious Touch). Toxified Lotus can't even activate without one of those. Mighty Lotus Counter is pretty bad for Poison as well unless you just happen to be farming parries like crazy.

[neon brook]

yea i kinda went along with anything that i had in my inventory

[normal socket]

tbh since suffer no demon drops ice lotus build, just do that

way better imo

[restive wraith]

anyone remember who can spam Cyan Fang beside Viper? I swear I read this somewhere but cant recall it

[hidden creek]

just viper

[restive wraith]

oh... my mind fool me then

thank you tabbie

[fierce light]

Blue Moon was the only one spammable

[hidden creek]

other characters can't spam cyan fang like viper but for some of them it's still the best option for their element accumulation

so you probably remember it wrong there

[subtle bramble]

yep was just gonna say wasn't blue moon spammable for the ls for all characters in survival mode

now only viper retains that at least in pve

[fierce light]

She's the only one with Longsword.

[normal socket]

Hey a couple more questions, im assuming ice lotus is ''frost lotus tree'' yes? what tree would spring thunder and thunder scorch use, also im assuming the trees are border just like the names? like hydroflame is for the first pic and etc

[timid stirrup]

u can find most answers here. https://dark-zer0.github.io/Showdown/

[normal socket]

thanks again

[next crane]

Any doom?

[warped falcon]

Need to do mine so inv me if you have spot

[next crane]

Name?

[sour wedge]

so I got a purple jade with a rare attribute that I'll never use

[drifting lance]

🎉 | OrangeRaptor leveled up!

[sour wedge]

if I deconstruct that jade will I get a flux shard back?

[next crane]

2/3 doom pm me

[sour wedge]

NA?

[fierce light]

Yes

[sour wedge]

awesome!

[daring frost]

a bbbbbbbbbbbb v

oops

Any tips for defusing and parrying?

I notice that usually you would want to parry when there's a blueflash but the bosses attack happens before the parry comes out

[neon brook]

why is it better than poison?

[restive wraith]

some character do be like that asfaik you might need to change your timing depend on which character are you using

[daring frost]

because it's so inconsistent especially since i play souls like games, i see my chance i parry/dodge

Like one match im parrying every single attack the next bro nothing is working

[neon brook]

wait what??? we can get flux shard if we deconstruct? so there is no downside in using flux shard?

[astral pendant]

lf help in immovable

[fierce light]

The blue flash assumes you have 0 ping. So really if you're seeing it then you're likely parrying too late in most cases on Trios. It's more reliable in Solos.

[fierce light]

1 Flux Shard from Deconstruction, 2 Flux Shards to Imbue.

[daring frost]

[neon brook]

so can we get flux shard from jades that randomly got rare attribute?

[hidden creek]

if you're soloing you can do that even on 100 ping

[fierce light]

1 Flux Shard per Rare Attribute when you Deconstruct a Souljade.

[subtle bramble]

I hope not for too long though, really want to see Justina with ls, can't imagine her with another weapon

maybe heng but eh that's more fitting for shayol, kylin and lyam

[fierce light]

Yeah they went ahead and added Tessa, surprised they haven't done Justina

[woven ingot]

They probably don't know for sure what they want to do with Justina's skill and ultimate. While Tessa was pretty straightforward to port to Showdown.

[fickle linden]

i wonder what weapon zai would use in showdown

[subtle bramble]

she was released with dual blades iirc

[fickle linden]

makes sense, she has dual blade pose for loading screen

[subtle bramble]

or at least her packs were

by the time they add her to showdown maybe another weapon will release that fits her even better

[woven ingot]

Makes sense. And she's pretty easy to port to PvE, skill and Ultimate wise.

[subtle bramble]

truee she will be super fun to play i think

[fickle linden]

one day 🤞

[neon brook]

if i reroll rare attribute, it does not remain rare right?

[fierce light]

https://youtu.be/Igvq8q4cfkU?si=pMjCaBbmynyLL5Lt

[fierce light]

It's random.

[woven ingot]

FlameBane can solo Topaz with Matari, there is nothing he can’t do! Ok he may not do solo Peak with Matari, but I’ll let that pass 😂
It’s a different thing to watch. Way less elemental explosions, mainly using the charged attacks and few skills.

[analog aspen]

what server are you playing on?

[analog aspen]

are there any other good showdown content creators besides you and flamebane?

[stable pawn]

hewwo, I have a question ^^
Is it worth doing challenge mode, or does it drop better rewards?
or are the same as thunderous roar normal?

[woven ingot]

Reward per fatigue and reward per time spent are the same between the two. Choose the one you like the most for farming.

[stable pawn]

I notice that challenge mode is fatigue 45
while the normal mode is 30 fatigue

[analog aspen]

you get more drops in the challenge run

but the drop rate for legendary and epic souljades is the same

[stable pawn]

Oh I see, thanks! my fatigue is pink now

what would you guys do / think it's more worth?

[woven ingot]

They are worth the same, it's more what you're more confortable with. If you got a high end build and want a bit more difficulty you go for the challenge mode.
If you're build isn't that great and/or you simply want to farm without paying attention to what's happening you go for the normal.

[hidden creek]

3x normal gives the same drops as 2x challenge runs, so whatever faster for you

[astral widget]

hi

can i get ghoostbloom faster than defeat lvl 1040 manticore?

[hidden creek]

run the event map

fastest way

easiest too

[fierce light]

Not that ik off the top of my head

[limpid pecan]

normal gives better drops overall due to catchup points

[hidden creek]

🤔 i don't think catchup points has anything to do with normal or challenge difficulty, but sure

[fierce light]

More likely to get above average drops on Challenge

[hidden creek]

yeah but if it's true then challenge got a better drop rate compare to normal, then it's not the same sj per fatigue between 2 difficulties anymore

[astral widget]

sorry but what map is it/

?

[limpid pecan]

they seem to have both 4 jades per 15 fatigue

[fierce light]

Suffer No Demon. Top-right of the screen

[astral widget]

ah okay i have it ;D

thank you ;D

[limpid pecan]

and same drop according to text at least

[astral widget]

its trio i am solo

[hidden creek]

yea, but you're saying normal gives more catchup points, so in general challenge drops are better

[fierce light]

Yup, but missing one non-rare drop on Normal, would be a bigger impact than on Challenge.

[astral widget]

is it problem to play solo?

[limpid pecan]

no, im not saying that. im just saying normal will have larger variance which is what u want

[fierce light]

No.

[limpid pecan]

u want either very very good drops or very bad ones

[astral widget]

thanks ;D

[hidden creek]

you can solo it if your build allowed you to do so

[hidden creek]

ah

ok

[limpid pecan]

like imagine extreme scenario

if it drops just 1 jade

per run

every time its not purple/gold

u get max catchup points

[fierce light]

Sense Level Suppression doesn't apply in there, so mainly just comes down to if you have a strong build for clearly it efficiently alone

[limpid pecan]

and every time u get purple/gold u basically giga overshoot target

also normal is faster to complete

but i think can be good to switch to challenge on fatigue breakpoint

to rack up more drops on higher reward %

[fierce light]

Normal has smaller threshold for catch up points and less drops, so bigger chance of passing that threshold. Not sure if the catch up points make it worth though cause I got 315 max at 75% rewards and don't think that was even a full jade's worth.

[limpid pecan]

i mean unless there is something hidden

normal should give more due to variance being greater

[fierce light]

Next resets mission going to be better for mod builds

[limpid pecan]

like imagine u had map that gives u 1 billion jades per run

u would basically always reach target

[astral widget]

first match and ghastbloom XD

its to easy imo

but thanks for help

[fierce light]

Yeah Law of Large Numbers

Suffer No Demon • Normal has an expected number of Fragments per Run (@100% Rewards) of 2.8.
Suffer No Demon • Challenge has an expected number of Fragments per Run (@100% Rewards) of 4.2.

Not sure if the Catch-Up System aligns around the expected average or some point below that, but it would essentially take 1 Gold Souljade to reach the target amount. Which is less likely to occur on Normal due to the smaller quantity.

P (at least one Gold | Normal Difficulty) = ~33.6%
P (at least one Gold | Challenge Difficulty) = ~46%

[fierce light]

Yup, that's why it's a limited time mission.

[hearty rivet]

I think it doesn't matter which one do you run regarding catchup points. Ran only one normal with fatigue turned on but here is the numbers I wrote down:

On 100% reward:
Normal gives 180 points for 1 purple / 30 fatigue.
Challenge gives 320 points for 1 purple / 45 fatigue or 220 points for 2 purple / 45 fatigue. 420 for 0 purples and 120 for 3 purples.

So for 90 fatigue you get 540 chatchup points whether you get 3 purples from 3 normals or 3 purples from 2 challenge (1+2 or 3+0) modes.

[hidden creek]

the catchup points compensation is sht anyway

[hearty rivet]

Fact

[hidden creek]

got compensated 6 jades but 5 of them are purple lol

then what's the point anyway

[fierce light]

Yeah feels like you need 8 jades or more from Catch-Up for a chance at more than 1 Gold.

The fact that it fully resets every 600 fatigue doesn't help either.

[hearty rivet]

Wait you keep some carryover after the 600

[fierce light]

Oh you do?

[hearty rivet]

Yeah you don't spend all

[fierce light]

I guess it's mainly the final 600

[hidden creek]

we asked for something to fix the bad drop rate variations
they gave us something which looks like it gonna do that but in reality it's just shit

[astral widget]

what is the best optional souljade on tarka ji for the ice build?

[hearty rivet]

OH yeah you don't carry over anything for next week but during the week you don't spend all at 600, 1200 and 1800 fatigue

[hidden creek]

yeah you can just not claiming it when you reached 600 1200 1800

and wait till 2400 to claim it all at once

but it doesn't change anything tbh

the amount of gold sj you got from it is still miserable

[hidden creek]

it's all on pinned

[astral widget]

okay so build done

now looking for bonus ;D

[astral widget]

manticora= hardest boss in game XD

[limpid pecan]

so this indicates my reasoning is right

420 for 0 purples = 140 catchup per 15 fatigue

and normal u get 180 with 1 purple so

280 with nothing

same 140/15f

then bigger variance of normal runs

will produce more catchup points

[hearty rivet]

Wait I'm dumb and/or missed something. My theory was that if you do this suffernodemons for like 600 fatigue in any number of combinations of modes and get the same number of souljades (like, 20 normals, or 12 challenge + 2 normals), then you'll get the same amount of catchup points for that period. It'd help to make this more believeable if I had more numbers from normal mode instead of that one sorry run with single purple drop 😅

[limpid pecan]

to get as much catchup as possible u need to have as big variance as possible

more jade drops = less variance

to take extreme example

if u had stage dropping just 1 jade

u would get max catchup points every time u dont drop purple/gold

[hearty rivet]

Oh by variance you mean the number of outcomes (like all blue, all but 1 blue all but 2 blue, only gold, only purple, 50/50% gold and purple). Yes if you get 1 jade you get the fewest possible outcomes.

[fierce light]

Fewer possible outcomes on Normal than Challenge. More likely to get one that's below average.

[hearty rivet]

Ok, fewer souljades per run so less chance of getting purple or higher, I understand that. But I think the threshold is proportionally lower in normal than in challenge mode (at least you get fewer points which implies that you'd start gaining catchup points at a worse loot to challenge mode), so I think it balances it out and ultimately it maybe won't matter if you tally your weekly souljade drops. I'm guessing here bc as I wrote above, ran only one normal with fatigue turned on and drawing conclusion from that one run's souljade drop +catchup score.

[limpid pecan]

ill make example for u

option 1: 3 runs normal, get 0, 2, 4 purple
option 2: 2 runs challenge, get 2, 4 purple

option 1 = 280 + 80 + 0 catch up points

option 2 = 220 + 20 catch up points

this is going by the rate described above where u get 140 catchup per 15 fatigue in these modes

[hearty rivet]

Thanks! (also sorry for being thick headed) Yeah in this case normal gets more points. I knew only the 1 purple reward worth of catchup point from normal why I made my example with those numbers.

[limpid pecan]

though i think its good if u switch to challenge

on fatigue breakpoint

like if u have 585 - > play challenge to spend 45 fatigue at 150% rewards

[hearty rivet]

yeah!

[daring frost]

[fierce light]

Ya made it

I just farmed Challenge most of the way cause less loading screens and is more convenient for mod builds.

[hearty rivet]

Me too I just wanted to get over it this week ^^;;;

[daring frost]

do you guys think tessa or matari is good for bosses? I might be doing something wrong but matari shreds the bosses agies really slowly

[turbid agate]

Haven't played enough with Matari but Tessa is amazing for bosses. (At least for me) I always do the most damage w her compared to other characters. Her ult and skill do really good agies damage

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Solace leveled up!

[fierce light]

Matari has very low multipliers all around, so she's pretty bad at the current moment at pretty much everything. Tessa on the otherhand, is pretty strong, with a good Charged Attack, good Aegis-Break skill and shreds Aegis with her Ultimate.

[daring frost]

Really hope she gets a buff soon, her play style is pretty good for bosses but she does absolutely nothing to them

[lucid ore]

Is there a list of stat ranges for sub attribute somewhere?

[lucid ore]

Thank!

[timid stirrup]

so that was what u were looking for.

[wind light]

counter and defuse numbers is pure health number right ?

[timid stirrup]

yea. health/armor

[wind light]

how much is a good one

for this attribute

[timid stirrup]

i have 1 in my build

mainly cuz i feel im not good enough to not have it

[wind light]

what build is it

[timid stirrup]

poison lotus mod

i would also have 1 in my ice lotus mod when i finish building it

[wind light]

i need that too, sometimes im not good i might be take 1,2 hits maybe more so i need more survibility

[timid stirrup]

i had at least 1 in all my builds

hell my skyfire build had like 3 of them

if not more

i cant remember

i know when i planned on making a tscorch build i planned on having at least 1 counter recovery

now i plan on having at least 1 defuse on my ilm/plm builds

ilm might b able to not have it but i havent built it yet so i cant say 4 sure.

[wind light]

my counter recovery sucks

[timid stirrup]

but this is all personal preference

[wind light]

tscorch is very hard to play

[timid stirrup]

counter recovery on tscorch should b crazy. even if u only have 1 max thats 200+ (pending wf) and being able to force counters

[hidden creek]

icefire lotus is even harder lol

cuz you got no thunderproof

[timid stirrup]

how many rares do u have in ur build?

[wind light]

my tscorch is like 90% fully rare

i switch between flaming blade and cooper

my other jades have 2 rare attributes

wiindfalls and scroching

[wind light]

these jade only have 1 rare

[timid stirrup]

so health, atk on the jades that have 2 rares. and health, atk, and either dmg to boss or counter on the flaming blade/copper

my plm has full rares and i only have 1 defuse on it.

[wind light]

why you put 4 rare into a single jade

curious

[hidden creek]

that's not what he said

[wind light]

ah

[fickle linden]

oh look it's that time of the week, soon we get to play again

[hidden creek]

34 hours more

😂

[wind light]

im waiting for thursday

just to burn the 2400 fatigue like 2 hours

[wind light]

dead channel

[woven ingot]

Let’s say it’s « nearly that time of the week ». Still long hours to wait before being able to get some rewards again. Rewards that we will consider as too low and we will rage about them ^^

[wind light]

2400 fatigue is a right amount, i never used them all because i also play ranked

i reached 7k in sea with 1k or lower fatigue consumption

with event like this i can freely play ranked

[signal kite]

Thankyou

[timid stirrup]

Np. It's been posted b4 just never pinned

[restive wraith]

eh not everyone play ranked, and most showdown player want more fatigue to play, at least when there is an event like this, noone like afk for 6 days a week

[wind light]

yeah in na and eu servers are not crowded i understand

[restive wraith]

I'm in sea but okay

[fierce light]

https://youtu.be/8qSyou43YMk?si=W-0Z-dYAdlyUD6G9

Tessa can solo it too

[hidden creek]

insane
no eerie korvine or evil manticore but still, insane

[wind light]

my dream dmg

[wind light]

i want to see ice thunder lotus in action

[fierce light]

It's kinda iffy for mobbing, don't think it could solo Enigma Peak.

[woven ingot]

Beautiful to watch as always.
That was a real last second win.

[fierce light]

But they made an Ice-Thunder Lotus video in Topaz already

[fierce light]

He made a few mistakes at the start and his ability looked like it was failing to trigger. Ended up pushing it to the wire.

[woeful bay]

Should I only use blue jades to upgrade sense level or also purple and gold ones?

[fierce light]

Only Blue, use Purple and Golds for Deconstructing

[woeful bay]

[thorn narwhal]

the most boring week for the game

[fierce light]

Ima try to solo Enigma Poison

[thorn narwhal]

can't even work on my build to do peak so literally nothing to do

[fierce light]

Ofc it gives me eerie hands

[woven ingot]

Those are the black hands coming out of the ground and silencing you if you're too close to them?

[fierce light]

Yup

[faint night]

Can someone help with manticores hunt nightscream in eu server?😓

[woven ingot]

Sure give me 3 min and i can try to help

[faint night]

Oh, thanks🥺

[woven ingot]

What's your ID or name?

[faint night]

I sent you friend request, AeHold

[subtle bramble]

fr wasted all of my materials just to not have any luck recasting and maxed fatigue waiting til week reset it is

[formal lark]

need a third?

[woven ingot]

Thanks for the offer, he got it done ^^

[formal lark]

oki^^ (have nothing to do lol)

[woven ingot]

The basics for all of us: waiting for next reset 😂

[woven ingot]

We all know how you're feeling!

[thorn narwhal]

yeah we need the triple weekly resets just for the event else it'll be another 1 day playing and 6 days waiting til week reset again

[fierce light]

3.Showdown mode's Soul Jade drops and gameplay still have room for improvement.(We've had in-depth conversations, and there may be new gameplay and events in subsequent releases to make up for this.)
Sounds like they have more events planned at least

Since this is going to be a long season.

I reckon you could do Peak as long as you have the right jades and the main non-rares.

[wind light]

lower the rate i assume

💀

[trim pulsar]

Is the shrouded jade the only way to get the 3rd & 4th attribute? Or could we recast still and have it appear?

[plain spire]

Only shrouded jade

[lucid ore]

a qol to see the chance to get rare sub when recasting would be great

[fierce light]

Yeah that and the chance of attribute increasing.

[lucid ore]

And if they feel generous, make it so you can't get the same attribute when rerolling the rare to another rare

[restive wraith]

what is shrouded jade?

[restive wraith]

how's your build? my friend have a broken ice lotus build and still 8/8, only 5-6 rare stat with no value maxed

if you are one SEA I'm down to help

[timid stirrup]

shrouded jade is used to imbue a souljade with an extra attribute. a max of 4 attributes can b on a single souljade. u need 3 shrouded jades to imbue the extra attribute on a souljade

[hexed jungle]

when does fatigue reset?

[hearty rivet]

tonight

[hexed jungle]

So not in the morning it’s almost 5am

[hearty rivet]

In about 10 hours

• a couple of minutes

[wanton wadi]

Pestilent pool keeps killing me when using it i see people using it and it dont kill them any tips?

[granite marsh]

Infectious touch gets rid of the poison on you whenever you martial skill

[mystic gale]

Upgrade sense level or Soujade conversion?Whats better?

[wanton wadi]

Thankyou 👍🏻

[timid stirrup]

Can also Defuse Counter attack to remove it as long as infectious touch is equipped

[wanton wadi]

Thanks

[timid stirrup]

So which ever comes first will get rid of it

[fierce light]

For Blue Souljades? Should be maxing your Sense first before anything.

[quaint girder]

So close to maxing out the stats on my main souljades for Matari lmao

Well the Attack and DT stats

Need to reroll for Windfall like 7 more times

[mystic gale]

@fierce light what about for the sens lvl of the jades,I have?Should I worry about the ones I upgrade ?

[quaint girder]

You use Blue Jades to upgrade the Sense Level of the Jades you're going to use.

[quaint girder]

Basically, getting a set of jades to the level cap is the most important thing you should be doing. If you have one character with a set of Jades at max level, all other jades that drop will be at the max drop level.

So if you have a set of jades at level 1120 (the level cap) all other jades that drop no matter who or what you play should be 1100.

Lastly, if you're worried about "wasting" Blue Jades, don't worry about that.

The game pukes Blue Jades like it's candy, if you leveled the "wrong Souljade" it doesn't really matter since the game gives plenty of Blues to level up other builds.

Sense Level is the most important for early game players. You cannot clear levels due to power discrepancy. Even if you have perfect stats and a meta build, if Sense Level is too low you won't be able to clear content period.

So don't worry about shaping stats yet. Just focus on Sense Level, then focus on getting the Rare Souljades on Zero's build list that's pinned on this channel.

Once you get those two out of the way, you can actually work on substats and deep diving builds

[mystic gale]

Okay thank you

[normal socket]

hows this possible?? i thought u can only get 2 rares in 1 or did they change it recently

[fierce light]

You can have 4 rares on one Souljade, but it becomes less efficient when you get more than 2.

[hearty rivet]

How do people do 30-40 sec kills on current yama level with ice mod build? 👀 As I saw it, once 2nd set of monsters appear it gets faster but first part is sooo slow for me (especially if hammer adds go to pick flowers or their noses instead of fighting back).

[hidden creek]

my guess is they make all the targets stay close to eachother so they can hit all of them with ability/weapon attacks, procing more elemetal blast = more lotus = more damages, ghastbloom lotuses deals aoe damages too

[fierce light]

Idk about Ice Mod, but mainly just try to proc your Elemental Burst one by one on each enemy.

[hearty rivet]

Yeah it is a good guess, I'm just not sure how to gather the 1st set quickly. I did only a couple of tries, but it always took forever till everyone came close. Hammer ents tend to be sooo passive.
Maybe should try shooting them or something to make them jump on me.

[hidden creek]

huh isn't it they tend to do the leaping attack if you're staying too far from them?

[hearty rivet]

For me sometimes they do, other times they just chill and watch the show

other other times they just run in with big halberd dude

[fierce light]

Yeah usually one is inactive while the other tries to fight with the boss.

Annoying the spawn them so far apart.

[fickle linden]

4 hours

im ready to gamee

[hexed jungle]

i didnt sleep yet im waiting on fatigue reset.

[timid stirrup]

i somehow got 48sec using PLM. got lucky the hammer ents leaped in early

[woven ingot]

It's always one add active and one inactive. So if you want them to pack together, you'll be moving to the inactive, and the active will jump on you. The boss will come to you in any case.

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Migosha leveled up!

[hidden creek]

will you jump on me if i'm being inactive?

[woven ingot]

Wait what? 😂
I guess if you're classified as "add" and me too, then the system will force me to jump on you yep! (In fact the system will force me to jump on the player next to you, not sure who "player next to you" is)

[hidden creek]

it's official everyone, Migosha is secretly a hammer ent

wait that makes me one too

ABORT

[woven ingot]

Damn I wish I was!!
I could make super jumps 20 m away, and get purple focus so nothing stops me. And icing on the cake I'd have a ton of HP and face tank anything thanks to Aegis.
But yes, dummy, from your own words that makes you one too. 😂

[hidden creek]

i take it back, being Korvine is much better

[woven ingot]

She's clearly more sexy. And stat wise: more HP, more damage, perma non stagger-able and ungodly fast. I'd keep the Korvine status if I were you!

[hearty rivet]

I dunno, lifting your pet all the time looks hard work. Plus dropping it on random people is borderline animal cruelty.