👾┃showdown

[astral widget]

?*

[hidden creek]

also wdym thunderproof in nirriti

[woven ingot]

If you feel not at ease in Hard, go on normal. You'll get less loot, but definitely go normal. By playing you'll unlock armor/hp/damage bonuses and learn the mecanics (bosses and mobs), up to the point where Hard will be easy, that's when you'll switch for better loot.

[hidden creek]

i read this for the 69th time and still don't get it

[trail ridge]

what about the female characters? (I'm sry, I just can't play for men)

[hidden creek]

tessa

viper and feria is ok too

[astral widget]

.

[hidden creek]

nirriti/enigma domain spam

[astral widget]

Im like 820lvl and Play tarka

[woven ingot]

Tessa, or Viper as females. Viper does a bit less damage, but has instant animations that helps with learning the game.

[astral widget]

And i spam nirriti

Its good right?

I Play hard beacuse on nightmare i dont have lvl

[trail ridge]

Okay, then I'll stay playing on Viper since I don't understand how ultimate Tessa works lol

thanks all!

[hidden creek]

hit enemies with it > do as much dmg as possible > higher dmg u do during the ultimate duration the better

[woven ingot]

It's a compliment, you dummy ^^
At first sight you can sometime feel aggressive.
With time passing we can see it's not rudeness, being mean or anything. Just the way you talk, and you being quite direct.
And once used to it most will appreciate the way you are ^^
Hence the comparison with Korvine.

[hidden creek]

💀 you actually comparing me to korvine wtf

[woven ingot]

To start I'd go with Viper. She's the poster girl for a reason somewhat, and the one who was used in the tutorial (beside the fact Tessa wasn't existing at that time I bet :p)
Tessa is the better Viper. BUT when you know the boss paterns, how to dodge cancel attacks etc. Things you don't master when starting PvE unless you're a weird case.

[woven ingot]

Yup. And for me that's a positive one. I wouldn't have said that two-three weeks ago tho ahah.
The day I compare you with ... Water omnius, the Frog or Eerie Manticore you can prolly call for bad mood 😂
On a serious note, I'm not really comparing you to Korvine, I'm comparing how many people will react to encountering you, to how many people will react to encountering Korvine. But that's way too much serious and less fun put that way 😛

[hidden creek]

[robust portal]

whats everyones ideas on the quickest way to get the 600 showdown game flux shard reward?

[hidden creek]

https://tenor.com/view/pray-feet-pepe-pepe-feet-pray-gif-13367702538580662263

this

[woven ingot]

Nirriti things are the longest, few points gained for lots of farm. But pretty much everything will be. The easy one will be "do X week of Nirriti quests or speedrun". But you have to wait.

If you want it right here right now, enjoy your whole week in Nirriti NS ^^'

[woven ingot]

I do that every time I meet Manticore. It's not working well! Maybe the crossed foot fingers aren't helping in term of playing at the same time ...

[hidden creek]

technically speaking the faster you get the flux reward, the worse your drops are

so

what are we even praying for

[fierce light]

Running chapter missions probably

[woven ingot]

Ah you're thinking about the one from the "bad drop" achievement. I was thinking about the 600pts into the season score.
Not sure which he meant.

[fierce light]

Smaller quantity of Souljades, so more likely to miss the quota and gain catch up points

Hopefully Enigma Peak is reasonably farm able, since it looks like it'll be the most optimal for Souljade Fragments

[woven ingot]

Lower catch up points, but if you're only about the achievement, clearly the best.

[astral widget]

How to get good bonus in souljade? Any protip maybe max first one and after this second or try in every one kinda

[woven ingot]

And what about it if WE are the one getting farmed? 😂

[hidden creek]

looming shadow peak leggo

[hidden creek]

farming, alot of farming

it's better to just start with a sj that already got decent stats

value recast is painful

[astral widget]

Okay i need only one to finish build but i can get it only on 1k+lvl so

For this moment i can change some bonus in souljade

Which are good to have?

Sorry for my bad english btw

[woven ingot]

It's not very intuitive, but you want a Jade with high % in its attribute stats. You don't care what the attribute is.
Getting the attribute (non rare) you want it at worse 60 tries. Getting a maxed attribute is way more than 60 recasts.

[robust portal]

yeah idk if im really up for that kind of farm tbh, its just the last flux shard reward i can aquire aside from lucky rare jade drops to deconstruct now

was curious

[woven ingot]

The two first pinned messages in that channel will show you the good builds to have, their potential and which stats you want on them.

[astral widget]

I think im lucky beacuse i have 2 rare bonus xD

[hidden creek]

doesn't matters how you look at it, purposely getting bad drops for that is just not worth it

[astral widget]

Okay thank u

[robust portal]

shame how many were lost to scorch in the quest for moderation but i done okayish with 5 windfall and 3 mod so far

[woven ingot]

I really think Driscy is about the season points reward. Isn't 600 pts rewarding a Flux?

[hidden creek]

is it?

isn't it like 900

[woven ingot]

I was sad to see that 1000 gives you the big achievements but no Flux, but there is one in the lower rewards.

[hidden creek]

aha

[woven ingot]

Ok ok you win ^^

[hidden creek]

[woven ingot]

Yeah yeah, enjoy rubbing it 😛

[past pond]

this boss 😂

[fierce light]

Yeah make sure to only use the Flux Shards for your 2nd rare on a Souljade

[woven ingot]

So yeah, definitely don't aim for that one. And get a tear the day you get it.
And a second tear because after all that bad luck they still ask you for 10K silks. Because why not bleeding you a bit at the same time -.-

[woven ingot]

I hate that one. With passion. I'm just glad he's very rare and i forget he exists 10 min after having to do him.
Permanent events spam while you have to fight mobs. Every event having its own thing (use ranged, parry, defuse) like i'm going to remember that? The events have push back of course else wouldn't be fun. And you're fighting a (mini) boss during that.
But the real hard fact is the number of time I went through the boss with the lance. Aiming correctly the symbol on the forhead, you reach the boss and ... you get kinda inside it without triggering the damage. And then after 4-5 sec you simply fall to your death. Game being like "Did you did something? Sorry I didn't saw anything special, physics hard you know? Just be nice and fall to your death, it's ok.". No it's NOT ok!
Some people don't hav problems with the spear throw, some have. I'm on the wrong part of the divide.

[past pond]

even i use thunder spear thing and aim to the eye still missed 😂

[fierce light]

Yeah you gotta aim it to the left a bit

[spice canyon]

meme build

[fierce light]

Also saw some pop ups saying how to deal with certain events

[woven ingot]

Yeah thats it! And that after falling multiple times due to horrible events, while the boss (stone monster or mountain ghost) is just having a good time with you. Because parrying/defusing a boss while there are constant meteors falling on you isn't a problem right? 😂

[fierce light]

Yeah i think they're still tweaking it before they make it a Speedrun

[hidden creek]

🤔 it could be a speedrun?

isn't it speedrun always the last stage of a chapter

[timid stirrup]

It was a speedrun once last season

[hidden creek]

wtf

😂

weird

[woven ingot]

Yeah i know, but honestly the popup is like 1-2 seconds, at that moment you're avoiding the previous event and fighting a boss. Not like I can read that.
And it's not "Hornets, use ranged!" but something like "those flying monters may be easier for you to handle if you were to use a weapon with some range". The message being 1 sec on screen, I'm at best reading the 3 first words.

[woven ingot]

It is, this week speedrun to be exact ^^

The last stage is Omius bought. That one is the one before. You got it as the 3rd Doom, but luckily not as the speedrun usually.

[hidden creek]

i mean from what i remember speedrun was always the last stage of a chapter

[timid stirrup]

Last week speedrun wasn't a boss was it

[woven ingot]

Noted for that one. I was sure you would have a trick for it.

[astral widget]

@woven ingot one more question, what hero best to sppedrun nirrita

?

[hidden creek]

ooooh i get it now

it doesn't have to be the last stage of a chapter

but it will be a stage that only have 1 boss and nothing else

[woven ingot]

Speedrun is usually the last stage, with some exceptions.

[hidden creek]

which is why burried giant fits the category

[woven ingot]

The correct answer is: the hero you play the best.
If only about pure numbers, Tessa, Yueshan, Tarka are solid picks.

[woven ingot]

Yes and no. It was the very first campaign mission. So a mission plus a boss at the end.

[analog aspen]

How many rare attributes do you expect? Last week I got 0 out of 600

[fickle linden]

why can't my shards be like that

instead it's 0/2

[woven ingot]

I'd love to own that much fragments...

[fickle linden]

431 would get you one whole scorching in your lotus build in this game

maaan i have the worst luck

[woven ingot]

ahahah

Sorry, but good one ^^

[analog aspen]

Dont jinx it

[robust portal]

ive used about double that and got 2 in the last couple days of playing on some heavy farming

[fierce light]

It can be any stage of a chapter. Eventide Ember used to not be able to appear, but they've added that as well this season.

[robust portal]

sounds about right tbh, may the rng gods be looking over you brother, and bless you more so then they have me

[timid stirrup]

i thought so. by boss i meant final stage in a chapter. but thanx for the clarification

[woven ingot]

You're right. That one wasn't a last stage. I think there is at least another one where the Speedrun isn't the last stage.

[timid stirrup]

fucking immovable as speedrun always pisses me off

all of chapter 4 has been a speed run

[fierce light]

Immovable, None Shall Pass and Dharma-Ending Ruin are 2nd stages but have been Speedrun often.

Same case for 1st stages with Desert Tribulations and Chaos of the Immortals, with us just having Eventide Ember.

They're more fun now with Lotus builds though

[woven ingot]

I'm warning you, if you put "Buried Geant" and "more fun" in a same sentence, I bite you! 😂

[scarlet hill]

hate it 🥲

[fierce light]

It's unfortunate that the poison pool doesn't apply near the player when fighting the giant. So poison is pretty weak against it

[analog aspen]

I finally got a rare after 450 recasts

[timid stirrup]

nice move onto the next jade and when u reach pity go back to ghastbloom and change a stat to whatever u need

nvm

all those r what u would change to

[analog aspen]

I probably try to get one rare on every jade in the build before I try to recast any values

But if it tates 5*450 recasts to get the remaining rares I'm in for an adventure

[timid stirrup]

yea but if u have attributes that dont apply to the build when u reach pity change them to something that does. especially if they r high % attributes

[fierce light]

450 Recasts is a bit on the extreme end

There's supposed to be increasing chances the more you recast, but they don't show anything

[analog aspen]

I hope so

[timid stirrup]

like say you have 25% ice blast dmg and u clearly want poison blast dmg. when u reach pity switch that stat

then go back to the jade u working on

[analog aspen]

I see what you mean

Thats actually a good idea

[timid stirrup]

or say you have a low atk stat and a high stat of something else like ranged dmg. at 1 remaining until pity change attack save then change ranged dmg to atk and now ur atk will have high %

and u can continue on working on the rare stat

[analog aspen]

I did not know it works like that

[timid stirrup]

say you have a 90% attribute. whatever u recast it to will be 90%

so what i do is change a wanted attribute thats low into something random then change the high attribute into what i just changed the low from

[woven ingot]

The only case where the % isn't kept is when you move to or from a rare attribute. In that case the RNG is applied again.

@fierce lightsee if you confirm the method: i want to change Scorch to damage to boss. Every roll I do give a random attribute with a random %.
When I reach pity (of course I will) I'll have a minium of 80% stat on the attribute thanks to pity iirc?
But if when rerolling I'm getting a perfect or very near perfect attribute, I should discard the Scorch and take that temporary attribute for when I'll reach pity. Pity doesn't force change the attribute % if it's a non-rare, does it?

[fierce light]

No it doesn't

[timid stirrup]

thats what i do after changing a rare into a temp attribute

[fierce light]

If it's a non-rare, attribute recast keeps the same %

[woven ingot]

Ok so if I get a great score while looking for the one I want, I keep it. Noted, thanks both ^^

[timid stirrup]

thats actually how i got a perfect infectious touch. scorching changed into a perfect stat. scorching again turned into another perfect stat. then finally windfall

then i just yolo'd a flux and got 2x windfall

[woven ingot]

I see, a good way to get something out of the bad luck

My yolos clearly aren't as good as yours

[timid stirrup]

thats assuming ur gonna get bad luck on rares also

i wasnt planning on the bad luck. i was actually pissed

after the 2nd scorching i switched to a new jade lol

[woven ingot]

I'm totally assume that one by now! 😂

[timid stirrup]

then i went back to it

[woven ingot]

But that's a good efficient concept. Meaning if I reroll that one, I change scorching to Damage to boss. If I get near 5%, when I get a Flux I let the Damage to boss, and reroll the ATK. I get WF I go up to pity to get DAmage to boss into atk. If i don't, I refuse the Scorching or Moderation the flux gave me.
Efficient.

[timid stirrup]

that depends on the % of the stat

based on that if u got 5% on dmg to boss(max) i would change ice blast cuz itslower than atk. 83% vs 87%

then u can just use pity on max dmg to boss to max ice blast

[woven ingot]

Right for the better maths ^^

[timid stirrup]

so ice blast gets flux in that example

[woven ingot]

I got the most efficient way now. I only need ... the flux? 😂

[timid stirrup]

i have a flux saved right now im just trying to decide on using when i start ilm build or fixing my poison so mod is on core jades

interesting seeing an ice thunder lotus on a wuchen.

[quick magnet]

it's so bad

[fierce light]

600 is pretty crazy

[tacit nest]

Should arcane straight replace miasma?

Like in terms of everything

Or does miasmas benifits outweigh?

[fierce light]

If you're able to fit in an extra Aegis-Break Skill, 2 Uncharged Attacks or a Defuse Counterattack to proc Poison Blast then Miasma Drive is better. Otherwise, Arcane Thunder better due to consistency.

[tacit nest]

what would be considered and aegis break skill?

[fierce light]

The special golden attack after a charged attack.

[tacit nest]

it takes an aegis break skill and two uncharged attks to proc poison?

what stage does arcane come from?

[fierce light]

No

[timid stirrup]

the beauty of that is when the boss starts attacking after part 1 and u can use defuse counter attack to proc infectious touch

[tacit nest]

this is with mod tho?

you got your skill back quick?

[fierce light]

Yeah, your rotation will probably be longer without Mod. If you're not using Mod, then Arcane Thunder isn't even a viable option.

[fierce light]

and yup, you can replace the Aegis-Break Skill with 2 Uncharged Attacks or with a Defuse Counterattack.

[tacit nest]

mod is super important for this build

i keep getting windfalls, and i know thats the other build

but i feel mod is the way to go no?

[timid stirrup]

is arcane thunder that much better than miasma drive or is it situational?

cuz if i can keep my miasma in my build and not replace it then i dont have to worry bout making an arcane thunder with double mod or other core jades with mod on them

[fierce light]

You're going to need Windfalls as well later on. You can manage with 75% Mod for bossing at least. Just a little awkward for mobbing.

[fierce light]

It's really personal preference

[timid stirrup]

i see. welp that just means i can start working on ilm instead of trying to change out poison core jades

[tacit nest]

My poison already got like five windfalls

I can’t stop now 😭😭

@fierce light you know where arcane can be found at ?

[fierce light]

Think it's in the common drop pool, but I can't remember.

[tacit nest]

Damn

I thought it was on morus too?

[timid stirrup]

sorry bro

[tacit nest]

I don’t mind playing it

I just thought it was on morus too

[timid stirrup]

it drops in enigma domain

[tacit nest]

Oh word

[mystic gale]

I’m having a hard time raising my sens level,do soujade matter?The highest I can get on 740

[fierce light]

It's a slow process, but if all else fails you can go to Nirriti's Ruins to consistently increase your Sense Level.

[tacit nest]

@fierce light what about thunder mastery

attacks rain down thunder?

for poisonlotus

[fierce light]

It's an option, but would be worse than just running Miasma Drive.

[tacit nest]

i seriously cannot beat korvine bro

you miss one defuse and you get cooked by that 5 hit fucking combo bro

[fierce light]

You can step away when she starts it, her range is pretty limited till the last hit.

[wind light]

i personally use wuchen which have defuse that i can use repeatly

defuse > jump to cancel > defuse again

or defuse > tap right button to defuse again

[timid stirrup]

i was just gonna say wuchen can chain defuse then u said it in the next line

[shrewd basin]

Or Tessa

IMO can’t she also chain

[fierce light]

Yeah.
Defuse → Horizontal → Vertical → Horizontal → ...

[woven ingot]

For that attack the easiest (which you can do on any hero) is Dodge backward the first sword swing. She won't move for the next sword swing, nor the next rotating kick and you're out of her reach if you dodged the first swing. Once she's done with the rotating kick you defuse the tornado kick she will aim at you, and you punish. And you can follow with a 2nd charged attack as she got a recovery time after that combo most of the time.

[tacit nest]

whats a chain defuse??

you can just hold it or sum?

[plain spire]

easiest chain defuse is feria shen and wuchen after successfully defusing an attack you just follow up with rmb without holding anything. (ex. of holding rmb to chain defuse is tessa.)

[wind light]

hahhaaha true

i learn it from china douyin

[tacit nest]

rmb?

just dont press nothing?

[lapis sundial]

So for feria ye you defuse and and just don't initiate the follow up

Horizontal starts her defuse counter and vertical will be redefuse. I may have the attacks backward tho 😂 I mapped my attacks on my controller a little diff

If you hop on I can show you what I'm talking about I also have a mic too 😂

[ebon parrot]

should i deconstruct this or should i continue rolling for mod? (theres 1 rlly low attirbute and 2 okayish)

open to all opinions

[plain spire]

recast rare into max attribute

[ebon parrot]

wait a rare can become a max attribute even if the rare itself isnt maxed?

[plain spire]

yes you just need to invest fragments

[ebon parrot]

ooh

thats cool to know

thanks

[wind light]

does the rare has to be max

[plain spire]

no need to max rare

[wind light]

oh my gawd

im stupid

i maxed the rare

[plain spire]

max attributes list in case you're not sure if it's max

[wind light]

thanks , i didnt the little trick for recast rare

althought i must have used the 60 times recast for the max attribute

[plain spire]

recasting rare into max relies on luck and if you have only 1 rare theres a chance to recast that rare into another rare

[ebon parrot]

lmao i made that rare into a basically maxed attribute (justneedx to recast value 1 time for it to be maxed) guess what i got when i rolled a rare again

scroching but this time +2

where was this when i was doing hydroflare last season😂

[plain spire]

Not sure about this but i think they increase the chance of scorching this season but lower the chance of getting moderation

[hidden creek]

this is a really good base jade

scorching to 30% ice blast
attk 3.6%
ice blast dmg to dmg to boss 4.25%

[ebon parrot]

yep

and i rolled that low attribute into another scorching

🙉

sometimes i wanna laugh at my luck lol

[hidden creek]

😂

3x scorchings in a row

on a jade that you don't need scorching

lmao

but tbh scorching is still usable on ice

[plain spire]

game is trolling fr

[ebon parrot]

i think ima try to roll

my other jades first

and see if i get mod on those

b4 trying to put a flux on this one

[hidden creek]

ofc you would prio 100% mod first and then windfall

[ebon parrot]

i still dont have a good ghastbloom and elemental lotus yet tho which is sad

o yea

[hidden creek]

but with some scorching you can go with this potential plan

since you don't even use aegis break skill on ice build that much, this became quite useless

[ebon parrot]

since nirriti nightscream drops all nightscream level jades, would farming manticore nightscream give me a higher chance of obtaining ghastbloom?

[hidden creek]

technically true

usually when you want a specific jade

[plain spire]

i actually got my ghastbloom on manticore NS 1st phase loot

[hidden creek]

the best way to farm it is still farm the stage that drop it

instead of nirriti

[hidden creek]

i got my 1st by passing the stage and open the sj gift for 1st time clear

😂

[ebon parrot]

i frogot where i got mine

but theyre all super low stats

[hidden creek]

yeah there's that too

my 1st ghastbloom is kinda sht too

but i got two mods on it so eh

[ebon parrot]

im tryna get mod on the default 4 jades first cuz i wanna be lazy in the future

but that might be a bit too greedy

[hidden creek]

you'll never know

[drifting lance]

🎉 | tabbie leveled up!

[hidden creek]

there's time when i got 0 useful rare for like 2 months

but there's also time i got like 4 useful rares within a week

[ebon parrot]

😢

[twin ledge]

Thunder burn with arcane instead of copper

[restive wraith]

after I'm already done with my main set, should I just convert those blue souljade or start level up another set of souljade?

[hidden creek]

most ppl can only afford one build

so theoretically speaking you should just invest everything into one build and making it 2 rares on each jade

[tacit nest]

i been thinking that too....

what should i keep, thunderscorch or poison lotus

[hidden creek]

lotus is more all-rounded

[tacit nest]

you a way better player than me, so what you think?

[hidden creek]

thunder scorch can only outperform lotus if the boss throw alot of blues and their attack pattern is not too intense

which rarely happens these days

except for some certain yama stages

thunderscorch gameplay has always been clunky, the only reason it dominated previous season is because its dmg is absurd

but it's not the case anymore cuz it got nerfed hard

[tacit nest]

so should i debatch my scorch build?

i been thinking ab it

i just worked so hard to get it thas why its tough

😭

[hidden creek]

if you have these two conditions then keep thunderscorch

• 1: you maxed it
• 2: you're competing for top yama

otherwise can just get rid of it to all in lotus

[tacit nest]

i wanna make top yamas tho lol

but it isnt maxed

i got all scorching

[hidden creek]

the chance of you getting into top yama is?

high?

[tacit nest]

just no windfalls

i have no clue

i been cooking this season, in paragon 2

[hidden creek]

can just check yama leaderboard to see if there's many ppl with maxed thunderscorch build

[tacit nest]

but idk

[hidden creek]

i mean

if there's already more than 10 ppl with thunderscorch build that is way better than yours

and they're all competing for top spots

then there's no point trying, if you can't get your build to the same level as theirs

you won't beat them with it

also lotus builds is meta no doubt

[tacit nest]

mannnnnnnnn

finna cry bro

[hidden creek]

on sea there's like 20 ppl with maxed thunderscorch or icefire lotus and another 20 with maxed mod ice/poison lotus lol

and they're all hardcore yama players

so really no point trying to beat them with a build that isn't maxed and doesn't has all the possible windfalls

they have played and perfecting their soul jades over multiple seasons

it's crazy, 15% HP, 4% attk, 2 or even 3 perfect rares on all jades

[tacit nest]

im on na

but still

im sure theres the same amount

[fickle linden]

how rare is it to get max attribute from rare recast ? like very rare or something?

[tacit nest]

@fierce light

question

should i debatch thunderscorch for lotus?

[twin ledge]

No

Pretty sure ice lotus is good for trios

But I would wait to see how it will do in later stages

[tacit nest]

but mines not max

at all

i barely beat paragon 1 lol

[fading elm]

[thorn narwhal]

what are these teammates bruh?
they been using range since 5/15 water ent

and this is what i get for soloing 3 bosses

[hidden creek]

random queue story

[celest quest]

Anyone who’s higher level wanna do a hard mission or two with a 760 noob

[limpid pecan]

this season is 6 months old, u have plenty of time to make good build

only the last level counts for final rank anyway

also thunderscorch is not bad for clearing enigma or speedrun

u can do all content with it

also depending on ur server, u maybe dont need absolutely perfect run with perfect jades

[plain spire]

They doing it on NS 😅 that only works in hard mode range build

[timid stirrup]

wow... didnt even try to res the tianhai. sorry

[woven ingot]

I checked closely SEA Tessa ranking yesterday and they are clearly into a competitive mindset. If you re not ready to spend hours in retries and don’t have an above average build you can sure hope for top 100 but top 10 and better not gonna happen.

[hidden creek]

yeah

the thing is we share builds between characters in showdown

and they don't give up any chances

so one person with a maxed builds gonna compete on all heroes

that's why top 10 is sweaty af, on any character

😂

[woven ingot]

Yeah, that exists on EU too, even if it's not the last week some players will go on several characters. So they keep well trained with them I bet;

Re checking SEA, yeah there are some total perfect builds 😂

I bet you gonna have a great time if you want a special Badge Tabbie 😛

[hidden creek]

nah unless i got a perfect build, otherwise i'm not even attempting

😂

[woven ingot]

Top 10 has some people with not perfect perfect builds, but it's like atk being "only" at 3.6%

[hidden creek]

too much time and effort, i also play pvp so eh i'm not gonna bury myself in yama

[woven ingot]

And it's not the last week, when you can except 10 times more people who will try real harder.

I see that for PvP, you got quite some nice ranking.

[hidden creek]

just chillin asura then i'm done

[woven ingot]

But that means you're a half traitor?!

[hidden creek]

blame the game didn't gave me a maxed build

[analog aspen]

Is there any upside on doing yama on different characters? Or is only the rank of the best hero important?

I just beat Astral 3 on different characters but did not use defuse a single time... I just can't get the timing right

[granite marsh]

None other than the top 10 title per week and flex

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Sczwt (SEA) | 386800040173 leveled up!

[woven ingot]

It's only of use at the end of the season to increase your chances to be top 3/10 for special badge/avatar.

But some people will do it on several characters already because they enjoy playing that fight, or because they want to stay good with several characters. And not wait the last week to be like "Oh I must try ranking with Feria now, what's the button to start an attack?"

[woven ingot]

Ahah that was a good dodge I'd think.

[analog aspen]

Ok, if it is only to go for top 10 then I still have to wait a bit

[granite marsh]

Red titles do be nice though albeit temporary

[woven ingot]

But no, right now you don't get anything for playing several characters there. Nor for having a high ranking.

[analog aspen]

Thats a bit unfortunate the fights are actually fun

[woven ingot]

That's why some people play several character currently, because they simply enjoy the fight and want to see it with another hero.

[woven ingot]

Red titles are also double edged sword, when you screw a fight in random, you can feel the people looking at you and be like "you're a top X with that hero and you did die?! How dare you!?" 😂

[granite marsh]

I swear a had someone shittalk me last season because I had 1 off game lmao with a red title

[woven ingot]

See? ahah

I'm surprised no one never told me anything on chat in any game I may have badly performed. Naraka PvE community clearly isn't the toxic type.

[granite marsh]

Go sea, they trash talk in their native language often

Esports type mindset for some reason

[woven ingot]

I'm sometime on SEA to play with a friend, and never had that. And with 180ms ping on SEA I can assure you EVERY game I do on SEA is an absolute throwing >.>

[hidden creek]

well more chance to get top 3 or top 10
you'll never know if someone gonna overthrow you on the last minute

[woven ingot]

Chance to pass a Parry/Defuse is under 20% so I gave up on that and I play Wuchen from distance there now.
I can be running and dodging and still die because with high ping the game seems to consider you're not really moving.

Beside that I never had a SEA player say anything.

I can't wait to be randomly put with Tabbie one day. Just to see him insult me all game long 😂

[fierce light]

If you're barely beating Paragon 1, probably just need to practice the boss. Thunder Scorch is harder to use so it would likely just make it worse.

[fierce light]

If you can manage fine without Defusing then that's fine. The only time it was important was when we had a Defuse Burn meta.

[woven ingot]

Sure I will usually survive because I'm playing Wuchen, so being distant and I'm never being targeted by the boss.
But Wuchen not having a damaging skill means I got very low elemental accumulation time so few explosions, plus defuse/parry is usually a good source for damage. So my prestation in the end isn't awesome in damage.
And also I let the others do the whole tanking of the boss, instead of sharing a bit. Not like my friend minds, but somewhat I do.
Now I know Wuchen works I may be trying with Viper at least for Enigma mob cleaning, she should be able to do that better.

[analog aspen]

Dont you think Wuchen has better mob clearing than Viper?

[fierce light]

If you don't have Moderation, then Wuchen is probably one of your better options for mobbing.

[woven ingot]

He feels good and is way safer, having a healing skill, and being ranged. But as you don't have a damaging skill, the elemental accumulation is low. His Aegis Break skill is absolutely monstruous tho.

I do have 100% MOD which also feels super sad on Wuchen.

[analog aspen]

Sure moderation will probably be a lot better on characters that have a damage skill

[timid stirrup]

sad at times yes. but u will have heals when needed after use

[granite marsh]

Trios healer Wuchen

[past pond]

i wish i have good chamber that always do heroes assembles

[woven ingot]

He's totally nice for healing in trio and still giving a decent damage beside it.

[thorn narwhal]

more attention guys https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1319415139170127964
if we don't get it acknowledged this week, showdown is a gg

[amber terrace]

wow

they update new event map

[late raptor]

where/when?

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Mr.AbuTooq leveled up!

[amber terrace]

thursday

[fierce light]

Event map?

[hearty rivet]

Such loot, very catchup points, thank you potion 😩

[amber terrace]

that is 2 map as last event

[hidden creek]

suffer no demon

[amber terrace]

water spear + poison poor

but this only thunder effect

[fierce light]

Oh okay

[analog aspen]

Are there any missions with a higher probability to drop these?
It seems like I'm not getting any of them

[woven ingot]

I don't remember them dropping especially on one mission. They are low chance drops on Nirriti/Enigma.
You also got 2 per week from weekly missions.

[spice canyon]

I mostly got those from nirriti/enigma
but it's a small chance so 🤷‍♂️

[analog aspen]

Only two per week

[fierce light]

Can drop from any mission. Don't think any has a higher rate than others tho

[hollow herald]

How do you get the extra attribute? Just recast + extreme luck?

[fierce light]

My fastest run yet

[fierce light]

Shrouded Jades.

[analog aspen]

lol how did you manage to get it done that fast?

[fierce light]

It gave me Atomize after Zone 11 and I got Hydroflare Blessing II early.

[analog aspen]

thats crazy

I find viper so slow in nirrit. I must be doing something wrong

[round glacier]

Suffer no demon gonna be fun lol

[granite marsh]

Le Fatigue dump

[fierce light]

My new fastest on Desert Map for Enigma:

[fierce light]

Best team for Nirriti I'd say is x1 Yueshan, x1 Viper & x1 Tessa. Although you could probably replace Viper with Tessa in Trios.

For Solo though she's one of the best because of how good Hydroflare Blessing I is.

[woven ingot]

But for Hydroflare you need to dodge to do the soaking so the burns get instantly "used", don't you?

[fierce light]

Yeah?

[woven ingot]

I see. That's a gameplay I'm not liking, now that I manage to use Parry/defuse, having to dodge doesn't feel good.
As everyone agrees it's the best for Nirriti by far it will give some more tries. When I tested some days ago, I didn't liked the gameplay at all, and wasn't amazed by damage. Both things being probably linked to the other one ^^

[timid stirrup]

thats when u get underwater-draco anima ring. Soaks target from using aegis break or defuse counter attack

[woven ingot]

Ah that clearly would be much more my thing! ^^

[fierce light]

Probably gotta work up the habit of dodge cancelling attacks.

[timid stirrup]

I dodge cancel wuchen's AB

[woven ingot]

Didn't thought that was a good way to do it, I was thinking pure dodge just for Soaking. Makes sense.
And giving it a try now, I think I know why I don't feel it performing at all. I'm playing Matari. I don't use charged attacks with her, so no free burn. And of course I don't use dodge cancel on her either. I guess it's not really making the hydroflare template shine 😂

[granite marsh]

Paragon 1 Wuchen with either Lotus builds feels really weak

[hidden creek]

lotus wuchen is weak on **any stage **😂

[woven ingot]

A bit what i was thinking.

Wuchen gives you some safety tho.
Just that "Wuchen" and "Speedrun" don't tend to naturally come together into my mind.

(From the guy who is currently using Matari in Nirriti. Yep.)

[analog aspen]

I'm cooked

[woven ingot]

The scorching attribute era. Whatever you do you got 60% to have it appear.
I wonder if people who did a Thunderscorch build lately had it poping that easily or did they got Moderation? If so that would mean the game hates every player without distinction.

[analog aspen]

The game indeed hates its players I think xD

In the end its best to deconstruct this jade right?

[woven ingot]

Depends if you can get another Pestilent easily?

[timid stirrup]

if u have another pestilent pool to recast then yes. if not u can rr scorch into a max stat or near max stat

then rr on a lower stat into rare until pity. then change max stat into what u want

[analog aspen]

Well, I will keep it for now but at some point I will get another Pestilent

[timid stirrup]

yea but if u rr the stat into a max u can rr the atk or dmg to boss into rare

then change the max/near max into atk

since ur poison is 70% of max already

[analog aspen]

I get what you mean

Thats a good idea

[timid stirrup]

but thats only if u have the reqs to do all that rr

if u got a legendary choice gift u can use it to get a pestilent pool and see if the 3 stats r better than what u currently have

[analog aspen]

I have this other jade.
And some resources as well

[fierce light]

Wuchen (and Matari) don't really want to dodge cancel cause they have an extended dodge after an attack

[analog aspen]

the stats are bad though

[fierce light]

Wuchen prefering to be at mid-range counteracts with what Lotus builds want. He can still use Thunder Scorch fine though.

[timid stirrup]

oh i was just saying what i do with wuchen for hydroflare in nirriti with no underwater-draco

[fierce light]

Oh gotcha. I just avoid using it on Wuchen, he works really well with Yin Yang and Thundershock Blessing

[timid stirrup]

i usually go hydroflare mainly cuz of atomize

but ive rarely tried yin yang II blessings

i will do that and see if i get used to it

[ebon parrot]

o yea how does atomize appear?

just a chance of it when u go hyrdroflare?

[fierce light]

Yeah

[analog aspen]

so unlucky

[woven ingot]

Omnius Bough and (Eerie?) Hellscorch can be really chaotic and screw the timer really badly. But missing 5 seconds is always a feel bad moment in any case.

[solid rock]

I can help if you want

[analog aspen]

are you also on EU?

[solid rock]

Yes

[analog aspen]

I mean we can try

9444400020166

[fierce light]

Umbra Hell Scorch is different from Eerie.

It's a weaker version of the normal Hell Scorch. A shadow of it if you will

[woven ingot]

Alright so the official name for those is Umbra.
Weaker? Doesn't he has more attacks/combo than the normal one? I'm usually not on him, as Omnius usually choose me as his target, so the other players go on the Umbra and I stay keeping compagny to Bough.

[fierce light]

Same attacks as its nightscream version

Just hit a little weaker

[woven ingot]

Ok perfect then. From what I saw from afar he seemt to have different attack paterns. But glad it's the known one.

[woven ingot]

Did you managed to get it done?

[fierce light]

Speedrun makes it a bit more aggressive (smaller window between attack chains).

[woven ingot]

That may be the thing that felt unusual to me.

[solid rock]

Any source on the "suffer no demon" event?

[analog aspen]

yes. Thanks to @solid rock

[woven ingot]

Perfect then ^^

[twin ledge]

i got 5 mods before i was ale to get my last scorching

already had 8 windfalls with 9 scorching but that last scorching did not want to appear

now im trying to build my ice lotus have 75% mod 1 windfall and scorching has been appearing so i have to keep getting rid of the jade with it

like 3 times now

i swear there is something they have in game where they make the rare thats best with the build appear way less

[woven ingot]

ahah good to make sure, the game does hate every player equally, no favoritism! 😂

[hollow herald]

"III. Find a partner Function

1. The specific gameplay of Showdown’s Party recruitment will be displayed in the Party Info in the form of labels."

[woven ingot]

@fierce lightIs that normal that different heroes got different parry/defuse windows?
I made a little run of Yama with Viper for fun. With Tessa on first phase 50% hp event, you parry the first ghost and let it be, she will parry the whole sequence alone. Even if there is a longer time between the 3rd and 4th ghost the animation is long enough to cover it.
With Viper after that 3rd ghost, the animation isn't long enough to cover that gap and you get hit.

[fierce light]

Yeah the parry windows depend on the weapon and defuse windows depend on the hero.

[woven ingot]

It felt normal for me that different heroes had defuse that acted a little bit differently. But Parry/Defuse windows should be the same. It's kinda unfair.

[fierce light]

Someone made a video a while back showing the difference in parries for each weapon

[woven ingot]

I see.. So I guess some heroes can do that same one parry for the whole sequence in P2, which Tessa can't do, she stops parrying at the 4th ghost iirc.

[fierce light]

Chain parries I think is the same

Might depend on your positioning though when you get hit

[ebon parrot]

Is there a new event next week?

I’ve been seeing news about it on another platform

[granite marsh]

Jan 8

[ebon parrot]

Ooh

Where can I go to see that

[granite marsh]

https://twitter.com/NARAKATHEGAME/status/1875196812732092735

NARAKA: BLADEPOINT (@NARAKATHEGAME) on X

Again!

New year, old challenges! We're bringing back Suffer No Demons from January 8th to 22nd.

Participate to earn amazing rewards such as Genial Treasure Choice Gift and Avatar· Kingslayer Qinglu!

Twitter · Jan 3, 2025, 3:05 PM

[woven ingot]

Nah i did exactly the same way i do with Tessa. But Viper stops the parry sequence after the 3rd or 4th ghost.

[spice canyon]

Rejoice souljade choice

[tacit nest]

Gonna be a w fs

Hey @fierce light

Arcane thunder can go on thunder scorch too no?

[ebon parrot]

I can’t wait for this event, finally maybe able to get some good jades for ice mod

The lotuses

[fierce light]

Yeah it can

Gonna be able to farm for some jades with some high % attributes.

Wish they would make the drop pools for chapter missions similar to it

[past pond]

Is it just me they focus on showdown event?

[spice canyon]

CN people with luck built must be happy

[fickle linden]

wow

paragon 1 kicked my ass hard

[fickle linden]

what's this event about?

[timid stirrup]

r they gonna split the element up again? 1 week poison 1 week ice? since last time was thunder>poison

while adding lotus jades?

[astral widget]

someone wanna play doom trio? i need 9 stars do

[bright portal]

I got a question about attributes in souljades in Showdown. If i have one rare attribute in souljade, can i add the second rare attribute by recasting?

[surreal saffron]

recasting no, to get a 2nd rare, it has to be imbue

[lapis sundial]

You running solo?

[signal kite]

[warped falcon]

Did you try to look in LFG channel?

[buoyant tiger]

lol sry

[warped falcon]

It’s ok dont worry

I would help you but you are in sea server

My ping over there would be 220 plus

:<

[buoyant tiger]

yeah

[fierce light]

Is showdown server agnostic?>
@tranquil ivy No. Can only play with people on the same server, although you can change your server at the login screen.

[fierce light]

For anyone who needed proof that [Scorching] only goes up to 12:

[timid stirrup]

has that always been there and we just glossed over it?

[fierce light]

Probably. They haven't changed those descriptions for a while.

[granite marsh]

Should be the same as the previous suffer no demon, realm of yang location, low hp mobs & really fast farms

[tacit nest]

Just found out yamas abyss used to be trios????

[river stratus]

season 1.0 and 1.5 was trio and solo

[fierce light]

Don't have anything on that could freeze yourself

Thunderpull could shock you, but Thunderproof prevents it from staggering you

Ice Omens or Matron most likely

[heavy gulch]

if someone need help with showdown on EU just ping me here

[hidden creek]

matron attacks build up freeze

[hidden creek]

yes

[wind light]

bruh where have you been

it was solo/trios and you spam the yama until you got good anima ( good souljade build, there was the basic hydro that can make you clim up to stage 50th )

also at the floor 40-50th everything is super hard, 1 hit you die

[granite marsh]

Does Flame-Thunder Chant in the green potential tree require 1 thunder wielding at least for it to work?

[drifting lance]

🎉 | fisher leveled up!

[hidden creek]

yes

it only accumulate thunder element

so yea you need at least 1 thunder wielding for it to even do anything

[granite marsh]

Think its worth changing 1 element to lightning just to take advantage of it?

[plain spire]

But doesn't it only need thunderpull ? as long as you're accumulating thundershock through thundepull it will work....

[hidden creek]

not worth it at all

low wielding will make it take very long time to proc elemental blast

also the burn is so weak

[granite marsh]

true dat

[hidden creek]

this is element accumulation on target, not on yourself

[plain spire]

it says "builds you thundershock accumulation" through aegis break martial skill, so same effect as how thunderpull works

[hidden creek]

also even with thunderpull equipped but w/o any thunder wielding, this potential node doesn't have any effect at all

[hidden creek]

no it doesn't says that

it says

''hitting monsters''

[past pond]

yueshan with ice so good

[plain spire]

yeah hitting monster is same effect as thunderpull "dealing dmg" in return you accumulate thundershock... kinda confuse with all these translation...

[hidden creek]

if you still doubt it can just test it yourself

go in free training, equips thunderpull, use the same rotation

with and without flame-thunder chant taken

see for yourself if the thunder bar went up faster or not

[granite marsh]

Rage/Dmg or Rage/Sec given the choice? potential related not jade stats

[plain spire]

@hidden creekyeah you are correct, it needs thunder element for its effect to work and its not worth it. (Tested on training)

[hidden creek]

rage/sec

rage/dmg doesn't scale with bonus attack iirc, that's why it's not worth it

i thought about a max rage/dmg build wuchen previously

but after i found out it doesn't scales with bonus attack, my hope was destroyed

[woven ingot]

I want a Moderation but for Ultimate for Wuchen!

[hidden creek]

if it does wuchen gonna be op ah

cuz his 2nd ulti cast can accumulate rage on itself

[woven ingot]

Not only him, but yeah that would be great on him.
BTW there is no way to cast the two charges of the Ultimate on the same boss, is there? You can target two different mobs, but not both charge on the same target, you need to wait for the first charge to be done, then cast the second right?

[hidden creek]

you always have to wait until the 1st charge to end

to cast the 2nd

[woven ingot]

Ok, no trick for that one.

[hidden creek]

yeah the charge got a cd of its own

you can see it after casting the 1st charge then look at ur ultimate icon

there will be a circle around the icon, filling up as the blade fallings

[woven ingot]

Yeah I noticed that thing. I hoped there was something to cast them both and forget about it.

[granite marsh]

If the boss is down though you can just drop it on the floor

It'll still hit boss

[woven ingot]

So you can have one on the boss, and one on the ground at the same time?

[hidden creek]

nah you can't

it simply got a cd between 2 charges

[granite marsh]

Just did Matari paragon 1 with 3 mins I wanna die

[woven ingot]

The description hints you can have two casted on two mobs at the same time. That's why I wondered.

[granite marsh]

Does she have an optimum moveset or something

[woven ingot]

Well you're playing matari, you're asking for suffering!

[granite marsh]

I got bored haha

[hidden creek]

that one means that on multiple targets you can have 2 of them get hit by one charge at the same time

like when they're stacked up, you throw your ult at them, 2 of them will get hit by the blades

not that you can throw both charges at the same time

[woven ingot]

I that two close mobs get each their own swords coming. So that's how that description had to be read.

[hidden creek]

yep

[woven ingot]

Rude, did my first ranked game, just to have that Black demon head tag. Game could have been nice and give me Moonbane, never saw that event as i only play vs Bots for dailies etc -.-

I don't even know, is there something special to have Moonbane appears at the end beside being the last player standing? Like being top damage dealer of the game or having the most kills?

[hidden creek]

getting top 1 with everyone on your team alive is just one condition

the other condition is that match must have moonbane/sunwing

you can see if the match got it or not

by looking at the sky when the pre-match countdown is at 30s to 0

[woven ingot]

Ah ok if you see him there, that means he will appear for the winner. Easy enough.
But wait, that's also how you get Sunwing? Every time I watch streams, they always hav Moonbane, never saw a Sunwing event. So Sunwing is also an ending Ranked event, just rarer?

[hidden creek]

sunwing only appear on perdoria map

holoroth and morus isle is moonbane

[woven ingot]

I see, hence the "rarer" feeling. 2 times out of 3 it will be Moonbane.

[hidden creek]

well... in a way, yes

[bright portal]

thank you, damn i didn’t know that and lost so many recasting 😓

[past pond]

i wonder who gonna use katana with thunderstorm since kurumi katana is soul slash

[hidden creek]

wdym

[past pond]

wait nvm

[timid stirrup]

i wonder y weapon AB/Defuse counter cosmetic doesnt transfer to hero using same weapon

the cosmetic is hero specific

nvm i just realized they dont act the same just cuz its a wepon effect

[hidden creek]

they should give us better vfx, like real new fancier vfx rather than just a recolor though

[hidden creek]

@fierce light thoughts?

[fierce light]

That could work, especially with Ghastbloom without any of the Root Glyphs doing more accumulation.

[hidden creek]

basically thunderscorch 2.0

sacrifice some burn damages for lotus damages

usable on heroes that couldn't make use of mod lotus

it's kinda half-baked though

cuz if i want to trigger 2x hydroflare with each parry then i lost some lotuses

[fierce light]

Oh that's true

[polar light]

【【永劫无间】征神之路斩妖台2.0来拉，心心念念的斩妖台终于回归了，什么？限时开放？敲-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/5OcQn6n

The new event that will come next patch

[fierce light]

Oh nice it'll consume 30 fatigue this time

See they can give different fatigue costs based on the difficulty, but they can't do that for Nirriti's Ruins wtf

[fickle linden]

is this 2nd time for this event?

[woven ingot]

If it's the one that was discussed yesterday, it will be a bit modified, but yes it's from Suffer no Evil from last season. Extra fast farming of Jades. Loading the map may be what takes the longest 😂

[fickle linden]

sounds too great to be true 👀

[fierce light]

Fast fatigue burning

with an actually decent drop pool

[granite marsh]

should just leave it as a permanent mode

[fierce light]

I'll have to see how the quantity and quality of souljades dropped measures up to the rest, but still is really good just cause of the no junk in the drop pool.

[hidden creek]

isn't it suffer no demon is only good for farming the meta jades? like in term of fragments per fatigue enigma/nirriti is still better no?

that's the case with last time iirc

[fierce light]

Dunno, we didn't have the drop rates posted last time and seemed to be consistent at dropping at least 1 purple souljade per run.

[fickle linden]

oh well, i take any showdown event 🤷‍♂️

[bronze wharf]

Please come down , you just hit by my only small Lotus .

[sullen pawn]

classic window licking lizard

[wind light]

does windfall increase moderation too

[thorn narwhal]

isn't he just the cutest

is this new

[sullen pawn]

was added lkast patch

[woven ingot]

Not sure what the "friends' recoomend" is. I think it's a mistranslation and should meaning it comes from the party/player finder.

[thorn narwhal]

how does it work i don't see any option to recommend a friend

[bronze wharf]

i think i saw that in setting

[woven ingot]

Because when i got that i'm sure they aren't related at all with my ... 2 friends.

[bronze wharf]

but not sure

[thorn narwhal]

ooo

so is it just the team up thingy?

[bronze wharf]

sorry actually i don't know about that because i always close party

[thorn narwhal]

thats sad if its the case i thought people there were actual parties but nope

[woven ingot]

Yeah it's not "recommanded by your friends". But "The game recommands you that guy as a friend".

[bronze wharf]

lol

[thorn narwhal]

thats even annoying as u dont want to invite someone while they aren't actually in a party or looking for ppl

[woven ingot]

Omnius Void and Beast must be the two biggest trolls of the game. Void loves to go underground so you can't hit him. Beast is ... something else. Can jump at the other side of the arena 5 times in row, jumping elsewhere as soon as you reach him (ideally outside of the arena so he can reset). Can be doing nothing but looking at butterflies around, and all of a sudden "you know what? delay between attacks is boring, I'm going to simply spam attacks one after another, no delay".

[bronze wharf]

we have a omen who always love to dive to the water - Omnius Void
we have a omen who always love to stay in the air - Omnius Bough and never stun after counter
showdown is meme

[woven ingot]

We are getting trolled non stop.

[bronze wharf]

what did he do ?
did he batch all jade ?
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1VkD9YrEdw/?spm_id_from=333.788.recommend_more_video.9

[bronze wharf]

here another one

[woven ingot]

I'd think so, having only a few blue Jades left. The 31 Flux fragments looks so appealing, the "you have no Jade left" not so much.

[woven ingot]

😂
He's not that mean. He's simply sight impaired. He asked for glasses so he could see players standing at 1 meter from him and not rush at the other side of the map. But the graphism division told him "nope, glasses don't look cool on bosses. Deal with it".

[bronze wharf]

I told you Showdown is meme XD

[woven ingot]

That one is exceptional. You're just at his feet, but he's trying to find you outside the arena's bounds. Yeah that's fine no worries, we all have our bad moments right?

And he resets in the arena looking like "what are you about? Nothing weird just happened, let's fight ... again!"

Very fortunate you had that sweeting emote in your wheel for the video. But if most of my runs were looking like that, I'd probably have that one in my emotes too.

[bronze wharf]

that's my emote wheel , i really like those . i did it to all heroes , i like to communicate with emotes .

[woven ingot]

Could also be good to communicate with Void. But as he's totally blind, I'm sure how the communication through emotes would go.
8 min in queue? Fair ^^'

[hearty rivet]

aaaaand my ice build moderation streak continues this week too 😵‍💫

[timid stirrup]

i was gonna build a tscorch build but was convinced to build an ilm build. so i will b joining everyone in the moderation hunt

[fierce light]

TScorch for Yama's, ILM for everywhere else.

PLM for fun

[next crane]

Any team for doom?

[woven ingot]

Which server are you from?

[past pond]

any team for enigma domain/help me kill manticore hard and nightscream

[signal kite]

Whoa fellow dislyte player

[hollow herald]

I once saw a golden lotus appear instead of a regular white one (I'm not sure if it was from my teammate or myself). But what is it, and how did it happen?

[tacit nest]

for fun???|

yooo

ive poured everything into that build😭

[fierce light]

I'll have to see it's potential when it's maxed

But it's seeming slighlty behind Ice

But not by a large margin mind you, aside from on Yueshan.

[tacit nest]

ice is better for other characters

?

[tacit nest]

and wym maxed?

dont we have maxed potential?

[fierce light]

x4 [Moderation], x8 [Windfall] with semi maxed attributes

I've only seen Ice at high investment

But that Enigma video of Poison vs Ice does give more hope

[tacit nest]

for poison?

also what video

rn i got 5 windfall and no mods

you think windfall all the way would be more effective than a build with 100 mod?

[fierce light]

Depends on the hero. If they have a weak ability, then x12 Windfall

[fierce light]

https://youtu.be/b5SRLupVOzQ?si=7zqprDc1KfVdk0M6

[warped falcon]

Is it still possible to proc thunder scorching 2x with sap souljade? @fierce light

[tacit nest]

I’ve only seen top players use copper

[warped falcon]

Copper ward is too hard to use

Not for me

[fierce light]

For certain weapons, yeah

[warped falcon]

Is it possible for fan and katana?

[fierce light]

For more consistency though, probably better to do running horiztonal after the first parry though instead

Fan, idk, but Katana should be able

[warped falcon]

Thanks guys so I guess i will go try to incorporate sap in my build

[restive wraith]

hey guys, is there any special condition to get "Useless rock" in Nirriti? someone mentioned it but I can't check the info anywhere

[fierce light]

Have to be using a character with Longsword, Dagger, Greatsword or Dual Blades.

[restive wraith]

thank you teacher

[warped falcon]

Why does this happen? Am i too close to the boss?

[clever glade]

Bruh WHAT IS UP WITH NARAKA!?
1 Elixir w a Gold Key @ 150% and only 1 Gold / 9 Purples???? I’m not finna keep playing this shi bruh. USELESS🤬😒

[drifting lance]

🎉 | 〽ackaveli leveled up!

[spice canyon]

Eerie boss = different movement

[fierce light]

13 Souljade Fragments is quite a bit above the expected amount. ~8.4 being the average amount with an Elixir.

[signal kite]

ackaveli be like Get out 🗣️🗣️🗣️

Haha

[wind light]

does moderation work at 125% or just 100% is maximum

[wind light]

nah its not close, something wrong. with that blue you got hit

[fierce light]

Can't reduce the cooldown by more than 100%, so no.

Enigma Peak is looking pretty promising to farm for Souljade Fragments.

[wind light]

thanks bro

[timid stirrup]

is there a way for 444 to work with poison?

[hidden creek]

no, because without thunderpull and thunder counter, scorching is just useless

[timid stirrup]

i didnt think it would but thought id ask. the build i had in my head was ghastbloom, toxic lotus, might counter lotus, thunderpull, thunder counter, pestilent pool and i already didnt like it. so much dmg lost

[hidden creek]

if that's the build then each elemental blast will cause 2 lotuses to spawn

compare to 3 lotuses on ice

also you have no way to get rid of self-toxified

the DOT gonna kill you

[timid stirrup]

yea

thats what i was afraid of

i couldnt think of a way to get infectious touch in

[hidden creek]

also poison accumulation is lesser than ice too

so it will take longer to proc poison blast

well anyway it's just not worth it

[plain spire]

anyone in sea server experiencing high ping even with good internet?

[signal kite]

https://youtu.be/9_OPh6GTk-g?si=GLsfe_Het469_2Y-

Pretty useless tho

[woven ingot]

The damage isn't bad, moreover with a not full maxed build. But isn't Ice/Poison Lotus Mod going even faster?
Knowing you have to deal with your own divine thunder during the fights.

[hidden creek]

it is bad when you compare it to... literally any other builds

💀

mod poison kill 3 first bosses in like 15 seconds or something

[woven ingot]

Well that's clear at least 😂
The only way for me to agree to bother coping with divine thunder is if the result is really out dealing everything else. Without that, I don't need more troubles during my boss fights.

[hidden creek]

yeah play any thunderpull builds w/o thunderproof is painful

[fathom bobcat]

It's pretty funny that thunder lotus builds is inferior to ice and poison lotuses in terms of damage while being noticeably more difficult, yet in Nirriti only divine thunder allows lotuses to be of any use.

It's also funny that damn thunder counterattack is alive, while build on thunder damage outside of meta has been around for almost a year now.

[fierce light]

Poison Accumulation is higher than Ice if it doesn't have Tundra Might.

[astral widget]

i look for trio on doom beacuse i cant do 3 stars alone xD

i need 9 stars to quest

[fierce light]

Lotus build can work with Ice since it can give you a Defuse in Nirriti.
Just wish they included the cooldown reduction to 4s for Ice Blessing.

[hidden creek]

feel like they didn't think about what people could do with rare attributes

when they're making those build

if you take all the rares attribute away then thunder lotus won't be that bad compare to ice/poison

couldn't blame them though

i mean who could've thought of last season thundersorch and this season 444

those chinese man

[woven ingot]

You need to tell us which server you're on ^^

[astral widget]

oh yeah sorry, EU server

i can defend it but im too slow for 3 stars

[woven ingot]

I can help there, give your player ID and I'll join you.

[astral widget]

give me a seocnd

ID: 5194500100166

[fierce light]

Yeah Thunderpull takes too long to charge for most characters.

The plus side though is that it isn't potential reliant.

[orchid jasper]

Poison build?

[fathom bobcat]

Even in free training he is worse on damage and creates problems due to the thunder counterattack mechanic.

[hidden creek]

if you run pure thunder lotus build then you got slot for thunderproof

problem solved

[warped falcon]

This build isn’t as redundant as i thought

[fathom bobcat]

Yes. The developers have their compatriots in front of them breaking the game and doing something crazy.
Although, it should be noted, the current ice build was recommended by the developers from the first day of the season start.

[hidden creek]

and the dmg fromm the speeded up rotating lotus with lotus counter make up for the lack of damages from ghasbloom

[fathom bobcat]

It does reduce damage and is still inconvenient when you're fighting boss.

[hidden creek]

nah it's sht
mod ice/poison cleared in less than 1 min

[hidden creek]

wdym it does reduce dmg

[fathom bobcat]

Because that jade gives you life, but takes up a slot of something for damage)

[hidden creek]

not really

[fathom bobcat]

Anyway, from my tests with different builds, even without it, the damage is no better than poison/ice.

[hidden creek]

thunderproof lower the thunderbar, thus making it filled faster, thus dealing more damages

[hidden creek]

i never said thunder will be better than ice and poison, i said it wouldn't fall behind too much

as it is right now

when the devs making new season builds they can only think of balancing 3 elements, usually they will push some build toward so it's the ''meta'' build, that's nothing new

[fathom bobcat]

I realize that the difference in damage may not be so much, but the convenience is, yes, much, as for me.

[hidden creek]

but they couldn't come up with what the players are capable of

[hidden creek]

well that's just you, even on thunderscorch not everyone is comfortable running copperward

even though it's considered a ''core jade'' for the build

[fathom bobcat]

You should also realize that I'm talking from side of player who on a good day has ping of 90 in solo. And can jump to 140 not for short time.

With ping above 100, you're already starting to have big problems with the basic mechanics working.

[hidden creek]

well yeah i mean i'm agreeing with you

it's just preferences

[fierce light]

It's probably equivalent to Thunder Lotus on Wuchen rn

[fierce light]

Ice build easier to use than Poison, but they also gave the Core Poison Jades out for just logging in for 4 days.

[topaz goblet]

Need ya

[amber terrace]

i'm fine

[timid stirrup]

i wish my pts would get that way

[fickle linden]

34min looking for game, i forget whole thing and come back seeing i've wiped 👌

[fierce light]

Yeah would be nice if it had that pop up outside of the game like some games do

Suffer No Demon queues should be popping though

[fickle linden]

hope so, sometimes it's just more fun to play with people even if it's slower than solo

but just not worth it when it takes 30min to find a one game

[amber terrace]

lol

[amber terrace]

first 600 fatigues with 4k pts

dammit

[woven ingot]

Let's hope the random chests will give you something decent at least.

[fierce light]

6.2k-6.89k Lotus Ticks

[hearty rivet]

OMG I'm so sorry.... x.x

[amber terrace]

can u chat in-game while play on PS or xbox?

[woven ingot]

I don't get where you get those high Lotus damages. With at least 4 lotus animas and 10+ element animas to boost them, I think I never saw more than 800 damage.
And same for 10+ animas and some element.

[fierce light]

Dunno if you can now, but used to not be able to

Xbox Leaderboards got the 3 main Lotus builds at the top rn

Ice-Thunder Lotus, Ice Lotus and Poison Lotus (me).

No Thunder Scorch thankfully.

[thorn narwhal]

how's it possible they start with 16000

[woven ingot]

They can't you have the max possible, 13.5K with all secret anima collection.
They started with the common 9K money, and both had the 7K currency animas on their first choices.

[thorn narwhal]

aa could be

[fierce light]

Ah, makes sense

[woven ingot]

Funny they got names related together Minato/Kushina, not sure what the Kus after stands for. And that they both get the same 7K currency anima.
Unless all players in a same Nirriti got the same animas offered? Would be surprising.

[thorn narwhal]

is tarka's aegis break burn worth it?

[wind light]

thunder scorch no meta anymore

[fierce light]

It is in Yama's Abyss.

[fierce light]

No, does close to half the damage of Cloudscorch. Only worth if you want to get Infectious Touch off quickly with no reliable Defuse timing.

[thorn narwhal]

got it ye it is taking long time to just sticking with charged

[sullen pawn]

can you react to the freeze from ice build with tarka F? dunno if im too slow or you gotta predict the freeze and time accordingly

[granite marsh]

Tscorch is the reigning build in xbox sea

Only Yueshan is Ice Lotus

[fierce light]

Yup, not being able to break the boss's aegis hurts Lotus builds a lot.

Tscorch could care less

[wind light]

ahshiet

[wind light]

why yueshan good for ice lotus

[granite marsh]

Frozen blast lets him spam his skill 4 times with 100% mod

[wind light]

what his F does i remember just jumping

[granite marsh]

Normal skill gives ult charge and increased rage regen
Ult mode skill is a spin that hits like a truck

[wind light]

ahhhhh

imagine spamming f then V

shiet

[shrewd basin]

Had to put down a dog today so sad

[fickle linden]

how do i get divine army from sky secret card from nirriti?

its the only card i miss

[woven ingot]

That was efficient at least.

[woven ingot]

You have to open cursed chests in Nirriti NS or legend and get "The lost" curse.
Once you got it you take any of the white portal, every time there is a chance for you to get teleported to a unique place. A cave with boss Mountain Ghost and Fiery monster.
In a corner of the room you'll find a rock with a different color. You want Mountain Ghost to do several attacks on it. After a moment he will break the rock and you ll get your Anima.

[shrewd basin]

Thought I could cheese ferias cultivation just doing a ranged ruins. TvT I could not to bloodbath I go

[woven ingot]

Which part did you wanted? Do ranged damage with Rifle?

[shrewd basin]

Yeah

[woven ingot]

Yeah, culvations usually don't work in PvE. They thought it would be too easy and they lose us to suffer.
Is bloodbath any good for that? I did everything in Bot matches which was conveniant.

[shrewd basin]

Lotta tanhai and Féria ults

Easy targets

Any the occasional pity from players

[woven ingot]

ahah, makes sense put like that.

[wind light]

bruh rip

[shrewd basin]

This was a joke btw I’m dogs fine see

[spice canyon]

You should see rank on SEA server

[wind light]

still metaaaa

[ebon parrot]

who clears nirriti faster? wuchen or viper (and which animas if you guys remember)

ive been trying nirriti with all the heros and i feel like those two are the fastest

but cant tell whos faster

[hidden creek]

does it matters though

i mean it's not just the heroes but the rings and the stages you got

wuchen tessa viper is defo on top 5 that's for sure

[ebon parrot]

hmm yea anima rings def make a big difference

[hidden creek]

for me as long as i cleared before the dmg boost i purchased from 4th stage ran out then it's fine

[ebon parrot]

alr ima just go spam nirriti with them 3 :)

[topaz goblet]

Anyone up for niriti harder levels?

[dense raft]

Just came back after an 8ish month break, whats good in showdown nowadays? Was doing ice tarka before, thinking about a swap to wuchen since I really like his new ult, and poison sounds neat but no clue how good it is

[fickle linden]

finally got my first and second moderation rollss

[dense raft]

I forget can I get the new jades from Niriti's or do I need to complete something first x_x I vaguely recall needing to do the Yueshan stuff for cold when Yamas came out initally

[hidden creek]

don't need

[dense raft]

Cool, the poison jades sound fun

[round glacier]

8 jan is an event where you can get all the primary jades

Farm that lol

[dense raft]

Perfect lol can get the toxic lotus build set up hopefully then and enjoy that \o/

[dense raft]

The poisoning myself in the pool is kinda annoying >_<

[hidden creek]

which is why this is one of the core jades for poison build

[dense raft]

Makes sense, also the healing while toxified node in the potential tree

[fickle linden]

poisoning yourself wins over freezing yourself or thundering yourself

[dense raft]

As long as there is sustain to go with it it, for sure 😛

[fierce light]

Poison heal in the potential covers that

[silent barn]

I need two people for showdown

Need help getting 3 stars for Omnius Descent

[fierce light]

I can solo it for you

[silent barn]

Want me to join you?

And even if you can we still need 1 more

[fierce light]

What's your ign and we can do it with just 2

[silent barn]

4018000040174

[fierce light]

Loading in

[silent barn]

Alright

[fierce light]

Sent an invite

[silent barn]

That’s crazy didn’t know you can do it with 2 people

[fierce light]

Yeah just have to turn off Fill Party.

[woven ingot]

Yeah, thankfully you can turn off the Fill Party and you're free to do what you want solo/duo. So you're not stuck.

[silent barn]

I didn’t know I can that

Thank you for telling me this

Now I can do story with my brother

[woven ingot]

Exactly, that's how you can play with one friend without waiting 30 minutes to get a game. Even more if you want to do the story as you may wait for hours without finding someone ^^

[mystic rune]

My ID: 4284800020174 any showdown players

[granite marsh]

Can clear it for you rn

Got it

[mystic rune]

Anybody online

[timid stirrup]

i just hopped on

[chrome seal]

How do u know? I don't seem to be able to find it anywhere

[chrome seal]

Ahh ok so it was on Twitter. Obviously I can see now you guys posted it in this thread and thanks for forwarding.
But why wouldn't they post it somewhere in a threads group like spoilers or events on discord

[lapis sundial]

Is there a viable build for matari now?

[fierce light]

Maybe Thunder Scorch for Yama's, but outside of that she's pretty weak

[plain spire]

sea server what?

[signal kite]

She's

[hidden creek]

LMAO who cares about showdown but us

[tacit nest]

i got a 2 min with matari

thunderscorch

that girl can basically fly

[lapis sundial]

2 min on what?

[tacit nest]

and attack and defuse and counter in the air

paragon

1

[timid stirrup]

i cant remember if matari can chain defuse or has a form of chain defuse

[fierce light]

She can chain defuse, it's just weird cause it sends you forward

[open socket]

you think thats bad try 1000ms in ya home server thats always fun

[plain spire]

That's my home server sea, i don't know why the ping so high and the asia server is low.

[astral widget]

hi

how are u?

[worldly bison]

Good

[granite marsh]

Placebo

[fierce light]

Some CN players run with max luck builds, but honestly doesn't feel worth the investment

The drops are still too random

[fierce light]

Sorta yeah

[worldly gyro]

i missed this mission quest last time

[thorn narwhal]

@hidden creek can u try something before update?

[hidden creek]

🤔 huh

[thorn narwhal]

check if steam accepts game files from your version

[hidden creek]

🥹 i play via direct client

[thorn narwhal]

that's what i meant, try it

[hidden creek]

i don't get it

[thorn narwhal]

like if u were gonna download it on steam and add existent files

[hidden creek]

i don't have the steam version though

[thorn narwhal]

no need just want to know how many accepted files will be there

[woven ingot]

Don't make Tabbie break his game!

[thorn narwhal]

he can copy obv

[hidden creek]

i still don't get what you want me to do lmao

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[woven ingot]

I'm not sure either ^^'*

[bronze wharf]

[bronze wharf]

he want you to move your file from your via direct client to steam client ?

[hidden creek]

i guess

but i don't have steam client

[bronze wharf]

i think it's not possible because version are not same

[woven ingot]

I'd think so too. Even if the game files are the same, Steam will arrange them differently to work with it, doesn't it?

[hidden creek]

yeah, the files are in different folders

i mean it could work if you find out which file belong to which folder to do a ''perfect'' overwrite but i'm not gonna spend my time doing that lmao

[bronze wharf]

just download it directly

[thorn narwhal]

u're really overcomplicating a very simple thing lol, but u never done it so nvm

it's just a drag and drop

[hidden creek]

do it yourself then

if it's that ''very simple''

[woven ingot]

He wants to copy the base launcher files into a Steam folder. But i don't think Mave got the base launcher.

[hidden creek]

and i don't have the steam launcher

[thorn narwhal]

what's the point of asking u if i have base launcher

[woven ingot]

ISn't there something about if you use Steam you can't use the base launcher (and vice et verssa)?

[thorn narwhal]

could have just said

[hidden creek]

you can just download it?

[thorn narwhal]

and download another 50gigs

[hidden creek]

exactly

so why are you assume that i gonna download the steam version to test it for you?

[thorn narwhal]

who said anything about downloading

u haven't done this before so u don't know, u just add existent files to steam download directory and that's it

u don't download anything

[hidden creek]

i don't even have a steam account

[woven ingot]

Ah ok I see what Mave means.

It's not copying the files, it's saying Steam "hey look there I want you to aknowledge that game"