👾┃showdown

[subtle bramble]

can the lotus jades drop in nirriti or only on the story levels and some on enigma?

[bronze wharf]

yes , but i think you have to Unlock first for your drop . I mean Complete the Campaign first for unlock the Jades .

[fierce light]

• Some can drop in Enigma, all the legendary ones iirc.
• Nirriti's Ruins can drop them all on Nightscream and above. I got all the new jades mostly from there without completing the new mission on Nightscream.
• Story Levels are probably ideal if you want to farm for a better copy, but not recommended while increasing your Sense Level.

[quick magnet]

Why Tessa is losing stamina with defuse?

[fierce light]

Cause she has Defuse Solve unfortunately.

[quick magnet]

feels very stiff bro, ngl

[fierce light]

It punishes you for spamming it, that's for sure

[quick magnet]

even if it lands, the issue with mobility when you try to dodge, and you find yourself out of stamina, this is the annoying part

will give it time and see

[fierce light]

Yeah it consumes a bit too much for it to not even move you

[hearty rivet]

Do we have any clue about value recast pity?

[fierce light]

I don't see it mentioned in the patch notes, curious what happened to it

[hearty rivet]

Scary... I don't see it in the tooltip either 😔 Perhaps it was deemed too much for QoL improvement.

[plain spire]

Tried to max it with 98 sj fragment = +0

[fierce light]

annoying

That was one of the main things I was hype about

[signal kite]

[thorn narwhal]

even he is struggling with that boss...

[spice canyon]

Recasting value to max is harder than getting rares

[tacit nest]

I think it’s nice they added the flux at the end

[hearty rivet]

It looks like that Tessa remains in golden focus and immune to attacks(?) for a bit after her defuse, while she remains sitting on her halberd. It's like an 2-ish seconds window?

At least in Nirriti I tried to defuse then just wait as other adds tried to smack her and fail. Even the red frogdude's 2nd blue combo attack went through her. And she can still do her defuse counterattack once she hops off her invisible seat.

[fierce light]

Yeah Defuse Solve has a longer iframe than other Defuses

At the cost of more stamina.

[hearty rivet]

Didn't know it was this long 👀 (I have a tendency of clicking for counterattack, even if i don1t want to ^^; Will experiment with it on Viper and Kurumi 👀 )

[tacit nest]

First time ever I’m higher than zero🙏

😔but he finna come back

[vivid merlin]

Are the lotus jade worth it or should focus on the previous builds instead. I'm also planning to swap one of the SJ for Benthic Dragon.

[spice canyon]

Here if you guys want to try lotus build (temporarily)

[fierce light]

Benthic Dragon seems pretty garbage ngl

[plain spire]

We won't know lotus max potential until we got max potential tree

[fierce light]

Can confirm that the -Root glyphs make them scale with the corresponding elemental dmg type.

But it reduces it's base damage by like ~6%

[vivid merlin]

I'm gonna try that once my ice build (scorching) is done.. Man, the rares are so literal .

[tribal venture]

spamming nirriti is the best way to farm jade exp and recast material? or is there a better way

[fierce light]

Enigma Domain for leveling Sense. Nirriti's Ruins for pretty much everything else.

[restive wraith]

@fierce light teacher will you update new builds after some time? I'm so scared to make my own build ;-; And any souljade catch your eyes for poison build?

[fierce light]

Yeah, so far it's looking like Thunder doesn't like Lotus at the moment.

Poison runs with Toxified Lotus, Ice runs with Elemental Lotus and Ghastbloom is core to all Lotus builds.

[zinc viper]

I run Toxified on full poison, but struggle to proc a single lotus ?? Why lol is there best way to make them

[fierce light]

Do you have Hydro's Bound on the potential tree?

[zinc viper]

I dont have enough pitential yet

[restive wraith]

thank you! time to farm for those 2 souldjade

[zinc viper]

Is SJ like Cyan Fang help ?

I wish I can show my current build but not home

[fierce light]

I'd just recommend not using poison till you can get it if you can help it. It nearly halves the number of attacks you need to do to proc Poison Blast.

[restive wraith]

btw this is my current build, which souljade will be replace for those 2 souljade you mentioned? or my build just not good to use it?

[zinc viper]

I have Infectious
Noxious
Miasma
Lorus Heal
Ghastbloom
Toxified lotus

[restive wraith]

imma cry if it is the one I got my rare stat on but yea 🥲

[fierce light]

Noxious Blast, Pestilent Pool, Infectious Touch (to not poison yourself to death), Ghastbloom, and Toxified Lotus are all core. The last slot is up to you

[restive wraith]

thank you teacher

my rare stats are safe

yippee

[zinc viper]

Well so replacinf Lotus Heal for Pestillent that I already have max

[turbid agate]

is this character specific or good for any?

[fierce light]

Good for any, although Wuchen is kinda iffy with Lotus builds since he wants to be at midrange. So any hero that's good at hugging their enemies.

[turbid agate]

cool, ty! Also is there a good set up for thunder and ice, respectively, with lotus?

[hearty rivet]

For poison or ice mod builds should I keep incineration instead arcane thunder for the attack bonus?

[lone umbra]

where is it ? i cant find in silk store

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Neel leveled up!

[twin ledge]

Hero badge

[fierce light]

For Ice I'd say keep Arcane Thunder because of its faster cooldown. Poison you can use Miasma Drive instead for an attack bonus without draining your health.

[hearty rivet]

Ack! Right, you wrote noxious blast not miasma drive in that build. Thankyou!

[lapis heron]

any recommend build for new patch showdown?

[quaint girder]

Thunder only is somewhat viable with Mighty Lotus Counter. Each bolt summons a Lotus.

But it's kind of iffy it best. I'm trying to make it work with my Abyssal Build.

Basically if you're doing Thunder Lotus it's Mighty Lotus Counter, Thunderpull, Thunder Counter, Thunderproof as core.

I'm not sure if Ghastbloom increases DPS by that much since Lotus uptime with thunder is never 100%

Might be better to flex into something else, but yeah still playing around with what feels good with Thunderbuild

Additionally we don't have max potential so it's hard to tell if the DPS increase is high enough with Thunder

[fierce light]

Yeah its restricted by how fast you can charge Thunderpull, which most heroes can't charge it that fast unless there's a large group of enemies.

[strong kiln]

But still have weird i-frames for some reason

[twin ledge]

Pretty sure for thunder spring call will drop more still with tarka hit skill buff really makes it really good

[round glacier]

Niriti hard best to fsrm new jades even if you did not do the story yet?

[humble oak]

Well yes...

But you'll eventually get jade level only to the story you have completed before.

[round glacier]

Hmmm

[turbid agate]

yeah Lotus is kinda crazy lol

[pale crystal]

So, the sub-stat priorities are the same with what you put in the website right? For poison build for all heroes?

[pale crystal]

What build are you using?

[turbid agate]

the poison lotus build that darkzero said earlier.

[pale crystal]

This one?

[turbid agate]

yes sir

[signal kite]

[pale crystal]

Ahhh, thanks

[round glacier]

How you deal with the lightning on manticore 2 nd phase

Dude keeps spamming it at half way punt

[turbid agate]

right?! that was my reaction.

[signal kite]

There goes my thunder scorching build in waste 🥵

[strong kiln]

Expect your build to only last half a season at best

[signal kite]

T^T

[hidden creek]

waste?

it's still solid af, wdym waste?

[woeful monolith]

Anyone who made the Scorching build knew dam well it would be nerfed, in my opinion it got lot more playtime then it should have considering it took almost 2 months to see a minor damage deduction.

[hidden creek]

that goes the same with everything else, new season = changes, either old stuffs got nerfed or new stuffs are just better

[granite marsh]

If your Scorching stat is all on Thunderpull/Counter and Thunderproof technically they're still in play

If you intent to try the lotus stuff that is

[hidden creek]

meh i just make new thunderpull/counter
lol

6 months season anyway

[granite marsh]

Yeah for the first time I actually have confidence to make a full double rare stat build on each sj

[signal kite]

Well that's a good point

[hidden creek]

i mean they actually planned this
new lotus builds will still use some jades from old builds, and old meta builds like thunder scorch, mod ice, hydroflare, thunder counter... are still somewhat ok, i mean tbf at this very moment we still couldn't tell if a standard lotus build is gonna outperform thunder scorch yeah? And if you're talking about lotus builds with rare attribute then it makes sense for it to beat thunder scorch, cuz it would be pointless if new builds are weaker than old builds
so you just gonna upgrade your current build to a new one, or make new one from scratch, and they gave us six months to do that

actually the most balanced season ever?

[bold ice]

any optimization with attributes? also how does your potential look like

[pale crystal]

How can we deflect the new boss spreading lightning and poison in a circle?

[round glacier]

Probably jump on him or dodge roll a few times or so lol

You could stay behind him but he hughes walls lmao

[granite marsh]

I jump and do a light horizontal attack to avoid the spin bs

[noble ridge]

Wait what’s nerfed about the thunder/scorch build

[strong kiln]

If you talking about his blue focus, usually it's a chain with the tail spitting orbs out, after which you can wait for him to release blue focus and parry the lighting orb

[hidden creek]

blazing flame and water and fire raged both got nerfed

[noble ridge]

Damn i can’t even curse in this server💀

[strong kiln]

If you are talking about the one where his tail spitting out poison and his face spitting lighting... uh... good luck

I pick character who can chain defuse after one another to deal with it

[fierce light]

I have to test if the Blossom Blasts scale with Poison Blast DMG as well, but it does make the lotus hit decently hard

[fierce light]

It only got nerfed by around ~15%. Less when you account for high attributes.

But it's mainly them nerfing the slap mechanic that is going to make it harder to abuse on characters like Matari who can't charge Thunderpull fast normally.

[timid stirrup]

as Wuchen i chain defused it

im hoping the mod poison build doesnt change to much

[fierce light]

Nice showcase!

[bronze wharf]

[lone umbra]

[strong kiln]

The lotus just create a loop in which it deals enough damage to proc another lotus again non boss

[strong kiln]

LMAO

If I have to guess, Tessa V put you inside the boss body, and the game dislikes that, they try to put the boss body on top of you while trying to get your character out of stuck by also trying to put you on top of the nearest standable ground on top which is the boss

[bronze wharf]

yea could be XD

[weak grove]

🤣

[subtle bramble]

how on earth did I manage to collect them all in the first match after unlocking lotus rings

speaking of, is there any jade that mimics the effect of lotus orbit?

[plain spire]

can you show all the collection of lotus ? i'm missing one and it won't appear

[plain spire]

i'm missing miasma did you build poison during this run?

[hidden creek]

yeah it's a must

[subtle bramble]

yupp

deliberatly ran poison because I read that on here hahah

[plain spire]

thnx mate, i'm confused how to make it appear because i always run with thunder 😅

[subtle bramble]

this run also dropped toxified lotus for me

[hidden creek]

i got the same issue earlier lol

[fierce light]

There's Lotus Counter.

[fierce light]

Don't forget to get your 2 Epic Souljade Gifts and 2 Legendary Souljade Gifts every week from the Justice Chamber Store.

[amber terrace]

ok

[lone umbra]

@fierce light will the build be good if we replace miasma swirl and defuse solidification with toxified lotus and ghastbloom jade in poison stormstride sword build? I use wuchen mainly and my build was built around it.

[fierce light]

Yeah, neither of those are core to the Poison build.

I'll probably have to list on the site which jades are core and which aren't.

[lone umbra]

Cool thanks

[round glacier]

Poison lotus is broken af lmao

Ghastbloom is epic

[solid rock]

Can't seem to find out how i get progression on this one?

[round glacier]

Get lucky that you get poor drops lol

[solid rock]

So basically just get a lower amount of SJ than intended on any stage? lol

[south tusk]

get reward like this XD +420 catch up point

[solid rock]

Aha, so more RNG, got it 😅 thanks for the quick responses guys!

[round glacier]

Yes pray that rng screws you

[thorn narwhal]

man nightscream 100%

[round glacier]

Pretty sadistic tbh

[spice canyon]

that is super unlucky 😭

[solid rock]

Can't say i haven't gotten any good drops this time around. My first rare ever, got it yesterday

[weak grove]

[south tusk]

get unlucky reward for new achievement

[thorn narwhal]

pretty disappointing system, just 1 gold from catch up rewards

[lone umbra]

I feel like drop rate are a bit improved got almost all new jades from nightscream runs.. and have a feeling catch up system maybe turn out to be good too

[lone umbra]

Like koi achievement in pvp

[thorn narwhal]

not a single new jade so far, it'll probably just be like before unlucky people will be left behind

[subtle bramble]

i hope they add an event like suffer no demon

it was super helpful last season for people who were unlucky at getting the poison jades

and for others it was great for farming in general because the matches were like 30 seconds

[thorn narwhal]

exactly! i'm hoping it will happen again

[hidden creek]

they might actually

[fierce light]

No one making an Ice Lotus build?

Well I guess there's the Ice-Thunder Hybrid one, but like a pure Ice one.

[solid rock]

1st place on yama's PC runs this on Tessa :

[untold marsh]

CN are replacing arcane thunder and incineration with ghastbloom and elemental lotus.
Solar 2 Tessa clear: 14s

[fierce light]

Figured as much

Well the lack of Frozen Blast surprises me, but I guess that wouldn't be as important for mobbing.

[solid rock]

True, would be misleading without context

[hidden creek]

well yeah mod ice lotus is op

[signal kite]

💀

[fierce light]

Tessa can probably just spam her skill from spawn and kill all the mobs

[untold marsh]

Can’t judge how op a build is from the first Yama stages

Last season poison was the same.
Clearing first stages in 20s.

[hidden creek]

it's op at mob clearing that's for sure

[fierce light]

Yeah this is probably our best mobbing build yet

[hidden creek]

if they gonna do more yama stages with mobs later on

i wonder

[fierce light]

Ima make one just cause of that. Still have my Thunder Scorch on the side

[hidden creek]

if it will ended up being when attempt high yama you gonna need to consider that beside doing the boss

or even highly prio at it

[polar light]

regarding the thunder scorch build i have noticed that there is something weird when trying to get the second scorching when countering thunder

idk weird animation and u have to counter the second thunder fast

[untold marsh]

Yeah same

[solid rock]

Noticed aswell, it feels like i get staggered

[hidden creek]

well because they increased the latter thunder fall timing

[untold marsh]

Not on the CN build tho. They’re fine

It’s more so the animation is bugged

Your character puts their weapon away for a second which forces you to reclick parry

[fierce light]

Yeah it's easier to miss the 2nd parry

Wow Toxic Lotus build is fun in Nirriti's.

[solid rock]

This has to be the most sadistic achievement store unlock. Basically "Have bad luck in 600 matches"

[fierce light]

It's still an extra Flux Jade. Usually get 3 per season.

Noticed that in Nirriti's Ruins, it gives whoever has dealt the most damage the choice of the boss.

[limpid pecan]

i wonder if its repeatable

like if u play 600

does it reset and let u go another time?

[hidden creek]

1 time purchase

well with this rate 1 week i prolly get like ~20 matches cuz i won't empty my fatigue every week
so 600 matches gonna take 30 weeks = 7.5 months ? longer than the season itself

[hearty rivet]

hopefully the progress won't reset by the end of the season 🙃

[round glacier]

That would suck

[pale crystal]

Can the Ghastbloom drop in Nirriti’s hard? The nightmare manticore is so hard even when my sense is 1100 already :(((

[hidden creek]

no

[pale crystal]

Sad :(((

[granite marsh]

You can get it in Nirriti Nightscream. I got it as a drop before beating Manticore

[pale crystal]

My fire forge is not 18 yet, well, guess that i have to grind more then

[granite marsh]

18 is just the game's recommendation, you can still clear the stage way below it if you can defuse/counter everything

[pale crystal]

I’m not that pro yet 🤣🤣

[hidden creek]

just try it

might be easier than you thought

[round glacier]

Get 12 burn in niriti

If you get atomize it very manageable.

Viper makes it easier with her eagis break

[hidden creek]

which person at 24e thinking the new enigma map is a good idea

[signal kite]

[amber terrace]

@fierce light i wanna ask, F of Valda Cui can effect for teammate?

[fierce light]

No, only themself.

So it looks like grabbing Poison Root makes both Lotus Impacts and Blossom Blasts scale from Poison Blast DMG. So maxing your Poison Blast DMG is definitely a priority. It also lowers their base damage a bit.

About to test if Ice Root and Thunder Root have different base damages.

[turbid agate]

Not really just put it together last night, had an existing poison build so just added the lotus stuff. Also my sense isn't that high yet

[fierce light]

Lotus Aegis-Break

• +66.67% Damage to Lotus Impact
• x1.667 Lotus DPS for 8s
  Lotus Defuse
• Lotus Impact hits 70% harder and larger size
• x1.7 Lotus DPS for 10s
  Lotus Counter
• Lotus spin twice as fast
• x2 Lotus DPS for 8s

[granite marsh]

Defuse better for poison lotus?

[fierce light]

You can run any of them in your optional slot

Wow the event gave me a jade like this...

[naive vector]

hey guys, why can't I see showdown mode ?

[fierce light]

Are you above level 15?

[naive vector]

I am 70

came back after a year

I cant find showdown mode option anymore in casual or survival

[granite marsh]

Did you swap modes? Its on the top of the screen just below the word "Lobby"

[fierce light]

Yeah it has it's own menu now

[naive vector]

I'll check

ooh I see, thanks

seems like It is available all the time now, no need to wait for every weekend right

[fierce light]

Yup, but it's weekly fatigue (stamina) based now. Can't get rewards 24/7

Man, Tessa is so satisfying to play.

[timid stirrup]

the solidification jade from quest turned out pretty nice for me as well

[subtle bramble]

hmm not sure about ghastbloom but i did get another one of the new gold jades (toxified lotus) on nirriti hard, granted i was using an elixir not sure if that had anything to do with it

[fierce light]

I haven't even attempted the Nightscream version yet, but I got it to drop from Nirriti's Ruins Nightscream.

[subtle bramble]

i got ghastbloom on random souljade gift

[quaint girder]

Trying to figure out if I axe Thunder Mastery for Ghastbloom

This is tough trying to figure out builds

[fierce light]

It has such 💩 attributes though I'm not going to touch it

[quaint girder]

even with doodoo attributes, it's doing a lot of damage

[fierce light]

Yeah I'm just waiting till I can get another drop, cause all of those rolls are pretty much at the minimum. (30%, 25%, 36%, 25%).

[pale crystal]

are all the secret anima rings only obtained from the codex? and are they all random? I’m missing one left but haven’t stumbled it anywhere. The “Divine army from the sky” one

[fierce light]

Divine Army from the Sky is obtained from the Lost Curse. There's a corner that sticks out that you can have Mountain Ghost hit the wall and break it. Then there'll be an item on the ground that you pick up and it'll give you the ring.

[pale crystal]

There is thing like this? Wow

So i have to find a stage that has mountain ghost @@

[fierce light]

It'll have both Mountain Ghost and Fiery Monster

[pale crystal]

Wait, so how do i get to this Lost Curse?

[fierce light]

Random chance when you get a curse from the chest

[pale crystal]

Then apparently I have never encountered this stage before since 2.0

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Ben65 leveled up!
ℹ | Level up messages can be disabled for the guild with owo level disabletext

[fierce light]

Not sure if it can appear on Normal, but definitely on Hard and above.

[subtle bramble]

it appears on hard now?

last season it was nightscream and legend only iirc

[fierce light]

Oh I could be mistaken

Been running through so many

[pale crystal]

Ohh, ok

[quaint girder]

Ghastbloom is damn good

Thunderbuild goes brrrr with Ghastbloom and Mighty Counter Lotus

It still has the pitfalls of TC if you miss TC counters you gimp your DPS

Requires perfect play, but even with mistakes I almost cleared Enigma with 1085 sense level and potential only at like level 24

I also gimped myself with Abyssal because I refuse to give it up

So I'm pretty sure if you replaced it with Lotus Counter or something actually useful it would do really well

[fierce light]

Yeah Matari just has really poor accumulation rate. Even the ones that did get good times with her spammed her slap to charge it, but they nerfed that.

[tacit nest]

i see mr @fierce light is using poison lotus build

hows that going?

[fierce light]

It's fun to say the least

Went ahead and invested in it

Just waiting on maxing fatigue to unlock Ghastbloom

[tacit nest]

howd ya get toxified and ghastbloom?

[fierce light]

Nightscream Nirriti

[misty bridge]

Is there any changes on the Mod build?

[fierce light]

Ice Mod still uses Arcane Thunder (since it has enough Accumulation Bonus to proc from just the Thunderbolt), but Poison Mod can use Miasma Drive instead.

[misty bridge]

And for potentials?

Cause ice has a path where it sais something like lotus bonus

[fierce light]

Yeah they're pretty straight forward. Ignore the Thunderbolt ones if you don't have Thunderbolts in your build. Red = Poison, Green = Thunder/Burn, Blue = Ice/Hydroflare.

[carmine basin]

Is it possible to transfer substats from one souljade to another?

I have windfall on a jade I don't see myself using any further

[quaint girder]

Lotus fixes that, but god please I wish 24E would fix her hitbox issues

[fierce light]

Once you get one of the Root- Glyphs, it does significantly less accumulation in exchange for damage.

[bronze wharf]

Tessa Defuse is Missing in some movement of enemy attacks or am I lagging ? did anyone happened ?

[plain spire]

Not possible, you can only deconstruct that SJ to get 1 flux shard

[carmine basin]

Oof looks like it's time to make sacrifice

[carmine basin]

It's a glitch. Sometimes her Defuse doesn't take even when activated

[fierce light]

She has an iframe at the start of her defuse (similar to other Defuse Solves). It's just hers doesn't move you so it looks weird.

[turbid agate]

so i noticed for my poison lotus build, my lotus aren't purple (element), does that matter? how do u make them match your element?

[fierce light]

This turns it purple.

Thunder Root turns it Orange, Ice Root turns it Light Blue.

[thorn narwhal]

if any had a chamber ownership can u set the heroes assembly any date earlier than the current one or u got to skip a week to set a it a day earlier for example

[turbid agate]

ahh, thank you.

[plain spire]

It's annoying to run ice build without cinderfrost they should return the cinderfrost effect in the potential tree.

[quaint girder]

both gimp your DPS significantly, you just need to get good at countering (Ice Break) or Defusing (Defuse - Ice Break)

[fierce light]

Can also run Yushan Shadows

[river stratus]

someone have full list of maxed % substats?

[fierce light]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mFC-5BBNE49KBiTL_vjerDu-Dr8S3309pLkJZRp0D18/edit?gid=1122630323#gid=1122630323

[quaint girder]

i never get uselss rock

[fierce light]

It's still in-game?

[quaint girder]

i trhink it is

i'll screencap after this run

[quaint girder]

I assume inferno hero implies there's useless rock unless I'm missing something

[plain spire]

you need to use hero like viper,matari,yoto,tarka to get useless rock then the red anima will show

[quaint girder]

I know

it's been 200 runs with Viper

and I have gotten jack shite

[surreal saffron]

last season, it took me quite some time too

[thorn narwhal]

@fierce light did u manage to get this working with cloudscorch yet? it won't work unless im missing something

[fierce light]

It seems like they reverted the change, alongside the pity for increasing value.

[thorn narwhal]

uh make sense why it disappeared from changelog aswell

[steep patio]

Does anyone have any videos of poison lotus and normal lotus build

[steep patio]

Got this on nirrita normal 100% rewards no elixir

[hearty rivet]

gratsss!

[fierce light]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1266668634609025076/1314695893697429575/NARAKA__BLADEPOINT_2024-12-06_15-49-50.mp4?ex=6754b576&is=675363f6&hm=acf67f55d535bc2fb940b039ca99317e1211c85890d5835a32a2279366f66142&

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1266668634609025076/1314517485218824192/TessaLotus.mp4?ex=6754b80f&is=6753668f&hm=7b85befd658c5ab40a6b1928f9260ee8f6d55ef841f7c79f6bb024467f6e4a3b&

I'm not sure what you mean by normal lotus.

[signal kite]

What's the jade setups

[lone umbra]

Lotus poison stormstride is good ngl. Cleared enigma with 1085 sense with 24 potential points. Still waiting to unlock the extra 50 % poison blast potential to unlock and it will go brrrr

[fierce light]

Noxious Blast, Pestilent Pool, Infectious Touch, Ghastbloom, Toxic Lotus & Solidification

[signal kite]

Thankyou

[pale crystal]

I’m looking at the leaderboard and see that most build are from ice, but how can I use it but won’t freeze myself? I tried defuse and counter but doesn’t work

[fierce light]

Have to use your ability/ultimate when you're about to freeze

[pale crystal]

Sound hard to use

[fierce light]

Depends on the build. But you can replace Frozen Blast with Yushan Shadows

[lone umbra]

For wuchen, is stormstride sword good or solidification? I use the same other jades
I have poison root unlocked

[fierce light]

Yeah, Solidification is an optional jade

The rest are core

[pale crystal]

Solidification or Miasma Drive would be better in this build?

[twin ledge]

Use skill

[fierce light]

If you don't have Poison Root, Solidification is better. Otherwise, it depends on the character as for some it greatly shortens the time between Poison Blasts.

[twin ledge]

Oh u already said

[pale crystal]

I’m building for yueshan, but would like to know a set that all heroes can use. My potential is 26 now and i have unlocked the root node.

[fierce light]

Solidification is more universal in that case

[pale crystal]

Thank you

[steep patio]

I have 100% mod w Tessa stormstride poison, works very well in enigma

[tacit nest]

anyone know the new potential plan for thunderscorch??

the ones before seem to have been replaced by lotus ones?

[lone umbra]

yeah even my current build on wuchen work well i have 150% poison blast and 3 windfall

[hollow light]

What's the fastest way to level up Potential?

[lone umbra]

i think nirriti's ruins - it gives 3200 potential xp one match

[fierce light]

It's still Blazing Flame + Water & Fire Raged. You just skip over the nodes that deal with Lotuses and Thunderbolts (unless using Stormstride Sword).

[tacit nest]

thank you zero

preciate u

you like the biggest help here

[fierce light]

Glad to help

[pale crystal]

For a heroes to be able to do multiple defuse at once, how much point of defuse trigger recovery will they need? Or is it their individual’s ability? I’m using yueshan with the poison build you gave above, but it seems like i can’t trigger defuse one after another.

[hearty rivet]

2nd phase manticore has some pretty obnoxious attacks x.x

[strong kiln]

Chaining defuse is character specific for all I know, someone like Wuchen, Matari and Feria can go into their next defuse by input vertical after their successful defuse. Tessa can chain defuse by pressing horizontal after defuse to go into dragonlike might and then pressing vertical to defuse (has some vulnerable time so cannot deal with attack that is too fast)

[strong kiln]

The one in which he spitting out thunder and poison around and the one after you put him down to 50% and just raining thunder?

[strong kiln]

Defuse trigger reccover is the healing you received after successful defuse, for chain defuse is character specific as I mentioned above

[river turret]

Anyone here want to do some showdown with me and my friend trying to help him through normal Morus isle

[hearty rivet]

Yes! With wuchen and his 1000+defuse recovery skyfire build I could survive his spinning lightning mostly but it's brutal (and only on hard! - although with 1030 sense level only), especially when manticore does it next to the wall

[strong kiln]

Some characters have access to their defuse during certain attack. Some character can only defuse through normal mean, such as Yueshan, Tarka, Yoto and poor Temmy

[strong kiln]

Yeah, for characters without chain defuse I kinda just... die and accept it

[hearty rivet]

not fun, since boss does that multiple times x.x

[strong kiln]

I got him doing it back to back, 3 times in a row

[pale crystal]

That sounds …. sad .-. Feels like using those is a death wish. Really love Yueshan with his gundam mech

[strong kiln]

You can master a character and dealing it still

I remember witness some sick Temmy play still

[strong kiln]

For characters without chain defuse I tried to defuse -> tap dodge but always got caught

[pale crystal]

Same with you. most bosses will just hit multiple time. I defused the first one and then got hit on the next one right away. Pretty hard to dodge them all

No wonder Wuchen is so widely played

[tacit nest]

i can help bro

[strong kiln]

For me he is easiest out of the bunch

[tacit nest]

what server you on

[river turret]

NA

[tacit nest]

bet

ItzFant0m3

thats me

[river turret]

bet we just joined in a match but after ill add u

[tacit nest]

same

you good

what morus isle is you

[strong kiln]

He said normal

[river turret]

hes in chapter 2 the last part before chapter 3

[pale crystal]

Yeah, i started with him last season. But then I saw this gundam and just really want to invest in him. After a few round testing with the new boss and others from Morus Isle, I just keep dying 😂😂

Even with my sense being 1100

[tacit nest]

bet

im souljade 1000+

we can rock ts

do some hard as well

[tacit nest]

what wud you recomend

cuz im looking and im confuzzled

@fierce light

[river turret]

@tacit nest u ready our match ended

[tacit nest]

yessir

waiting in lobby for ay

ya

[river turret]

wats ur ID i tried ur name and it said u dont exist lol

[tacit nest]

ItzFantOm3

that what it is

my bad i type a 0 last time

[river turret]

think i got ya this time

[tacit nest]

yessir

[fierce light]

Yueshan can't chain Defuses, however, after a successful defuse if he follows up with a dodge, it will have an extended iframe.

[fierce light]

Potential wise? Go for Blazing Flame first as that allows your Burns to scale. You can skip the side nodes that affect Lotus and Thunderbolt dmg

[tacit nest]

flame and thunder chant and rejuvination next?

[fierce light]

Yeah you can't skip Flame-Thunder Chant

You can grab the healing after Blazing Flame, you just won't be able to keep it at max potential to reach Water and Fire Raged.

[hidden creek]

go this first

when you got enough points to get both blazing flame and water and fire raged then take them

[tacit nest]

preciate you too

thanks

[vagrant pollen]

Question

So I was on a hiatus from this game since... May-ish?

What are Nirriti's Ruins and what did they do to Yama's Abyss?

[fierce light]

• Nirriti's Ruins is part of what Void Space used to be in Yama's Abyss.
• • Progression is completely isolated to the mode. With the only thing being taken from outside is your Hero Level.
• Yama's Abyss was turned into a Solo Ranked mode for Showdown.
• • Majority of the RNG has been removed, with you using your full build to defeat enemies in a small arena.

[lofty seal]

im on hardmode trying to level my sense level what would be the best mission for that or rather fastest mission

its taking so long

[rough gate]

nirritits hard mode

[lofty seal]

current mission im at is called together we stand

[lofty seal]

just spam that?

[rough gate]

yerah on sea in a group it autofills fast

its boring cuz u need to do like 100

to get maxc potential

and souljades

[lofty seal]

dang lol

i'll def grind the ruins for a bit then

what about jades cuz i see those jades in some of those builds

i assume most of those are only possible to get in nightscream

[rough gate]

yeah u can pass nightscream after a good amount of nirritis hard

[lofty seal]

alright

thanks for the help

[rough gate]

what server u on im dooing nirittis hard

questions, ( gain recovery effect when toxinated,, what effect, onyl i know iis a sj that says if get recovery effect +attack

what are ?all strikers as used in blue potential tree ( hit all strikes recieved x}

[sharp yarrow]

how do u level up sense level fast? im at level 833 and it feels so extremely slow

[hidden creek]

nirriti spam

[subtle bramble]

Did they nerf the difficulty of solo Nirriti nightscream this season? I remember it being harder even with almost maxed out fire forge last season

[lofty seal]

EU

[hidden creek]

yeah i feel the same, in fact nightscream took me like 1 min longer compare to hard

lol

[wind light]

why people change copper ward into arcane thunder

[hidden creek]

who?

arcane thunder is just for mod builds

[bronze wharf]

Bruh ! This season is Moderation Meta XD

[hard glade]

Yeah

Mod all the way...

[hidden creek]

yep

mod, mod everywhere

but copperward is just for burn based builds and burn based builds don't use mod so... who replace copperward for arcane thunder and for what?

[still steeple]

Is there a player guide somewhere for builds? An indepth one, I suffered in paragon last season and it may be a build issue and a skill issue but if I can rule out one of these issues that would be great

[untold marsh]

charges your thunder almost immediately

you exchange the high damage of copper ward with proccing thunder faster

[rapid crag]

how to finish this

[hollow light]

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Aertrick | PH-SEA | 757000150168 leveled up!

[hollow light]

Do I still get potential exp even if Fatigue is maxed out?

[magic ridge]

If I click on this do I get stuff for free or does my fatigue go up by 600?

[bold ice]

for free

[magic ridge]

nice

[bold ice]

you just need to reach the fatigue threshold to collect it

[signal kite]

Try one match and if u get xp tell us too

[bronze wharf]

mean you have top upgrade your anima ring card full level 1 to 3 .

[hollow light]

Tried it, it doesn't give exp

[signal kite]

[rapid crag]

This?

[bronze wharf]

no it's a blessing , for example you got a attack increase card with level 1 right ? you have to upgrade that attack increase card to full level .

[hidden creek]

it literally described everything there... you got an anima ring, next time the same ring appear you select it again = it increase 1 level = 1 time upgrade, do that 12 times in one nightscream/legend nirriti run

[bronze wharf]

he said 12 times right ? then 4 card full level . 1 card 3 level but don't trust my info at all because i only know and completed like that . I'm not sure at all . Try it like that bro .

[fierce light]

There's the website in the pins that has the builds from last season. This season's builds are still being experimented with though.

[rapid crag]

yeah i keep doing that already, it even exceeded 12/12, like 15/12 of awakening or element anima rings etc etc in niriti nightscream, i still cant finish it

[hidden creek]

you still don't get it

what you're describing is you selected 12 rings of the same collection (including upgrades) so you got the 12 rings blessing

but that's not what the quest was about, the quest ask you to upgrade 12 TIMES

like you can get 6 level 3 rings (each rings 2 times upgrade) so it's 6x2=12
or 10 level 2 rings (each rings 1 time upgrade) and 1 level 3 rings (2 times upgrade) so it's 10x1 + 1x2 = 12

[rapid crag]

ok got it, ill try again later

[clever glade]

Can anyone explain (in detail) exactly how the Catch-Up Points System works? I know it goes off good or bad drops and what not but I’ve seen people with 8 Jades/8 Crystals.. 11 Jades/9 Crystals.. and I got 3 Jades/3 Crystals.. I’m confused af

[hidden creek]

if the game judged your drop on that run is below average, you get points, the lower the drop, the more points you get, this points stacks up until you burned 600 fatigue then it will be converted into souljade/crystal as reward. The more point you have, the better this compensation gonna be.

so the person who got 8/9 jades/crystals on compensation just got more bad runs compare to you

[clever glade]

I’ve gotten a gold key like every other run so that makes perfect sense’ Precaite it!

[plain spire]

Anyone getting Ghastbloom in nitiri without clearing nightmare mode ?

[hidden creek]

you mean nightmare manticore or nightmare nirriti?

you can get ghastbloom in nightmare nirriti w/o clearing nightmare manticore

[fierce light]

#👾┃showdown message

[wise solstice]

+1

[forest drum]

u can also get that from nirriti hard btw

[drifting lance]

🎉 | CareIessMind leveled up!

[plain spire]

Ghostbloom on hard?

[fierce light]

Haven't seen it drop from hard yet, been farming it mostly.

[hidden creek]

you can't

[forest drum]

im pretty sure i got it from hard but maybe im mistaken xD

[grim girder]

any ideas for builds incorporating lotus jades?

[drifting lance]

🎉 | nifrigel leveled up!

[novel shell]

Does this work with scorch lvl 12?

[lone umbra]

Yep I got it in nirriti nightscream without clearing manticore

[hidden creek]

does what work with scorch?

[fierce light]

For each build the Core Souljades are as follows:

Ice Build

• Successive Ice Blast, Sub-Zero Seal(1), Tundra Might(1), Elemental Lotus, & Ghastbloom

Thunder Build

• Thunderpull, Thunder Counter, Mighty Lotus Counter, & Ghastbloom

Poison Build

• Noxious Blast, Pestilent Pool, Infectious Touch(2), Toxic Lotus, & Ghastbloom

The remaining slot(s) can be filled with your preference, but essentially you need those in order for the builds to work.

(1) Without these 2 Souljades, Ice Blasts will accumulate 31% slower (will take x1.45 more attacks to proc). The build can still work without them however.

(2) Infectious Touch isn't necessary for Poison Build to work, however, without it you have no way to dispel corruption and will slowly die from it.

[naive vector]

why cant I find people in showdown?

Ive been searching for a long time

dark zeroo heelp, tell me whyyy

[fierce light]

If anyone is public queueing it is likely in Nirriti's Ruins - Hard. Everything else pretty much consists of premade teams because of how many missions there are.

Best to ask in #🐲┃showdown-lfg

[round glacier]

Burn builds?

[fierce light]

They haven't changed

[round glacier]

Aight

Need 2 more ghastblooms for ice and thunder

[thorn narwhal]

ppl already have max stats, meanwhile im only getting ranged bs

[hearty rivet]

who needs max stats (or value recast pity) 🥲

[fierce light]

Yup, that's why I'm waiting on a better Ghastbloom before recasting it up

I'm already down 2/3's of my stock

[hearty rivet]

I wonder how is it optimal to spend our catch-up points. and where are the treshholds for more souljades.

[fierce light]

I just grab Souljades cause looking for a Ghastbloom and low on Fragments

[hearty rivet]

I'm curious how this turn out on the long run. From my 1st 600 fatigue, without golden key enigma runs or potions but with catchup I got a bit more than 1/3 of the usual amount of shards than before.

[thorn narwhal]

lol 11 challenges done from 1 run, also i hope these drops continue and not just first time thing

[naive vector]

@fierce light how long does queue time take for you in showdown?

[bold ice]

even 75% rewards dont seem too bad this time around

[naive vector]

I been searching for a trio party in showdown n nirritis ruins normal mode for 10 mins and still its not found any

For a game that has 300k active players, this doesn't look good

[hearty rivet]

Do people do normal nirriti in trios at all?

[naive vector]

I don't know. I came back to naraka after a year and wanted to hop on showdown. But I dont know what map they play

[hearty rivet]

Normal is pretty much soloable without any prerequirements.

[naive vector]

Anybody know what showdown stage is the best for weapon exp farm?

my sense level is 700

[hearty rivet]

it doesn't matter in nirriti

[fierce light]

I don't really public queue for anything but Dooms shortly after weekly reset.

[plush spear]

Pretty sure it's Nirriti

[naive vector]

nirriti normal is the best weapon exp farm?

[plush spear]

Yeah, if you don't have party to carry you in high level stage. Then nirriti is best exp farm

[naive vector]

does weapon exp come from damage done or kills?

[fierce light]

Nirriti's Ruins is pretty much the best in everything but leveling your Sense. In which, Enigma Domain pulls ahead

[naive vector]

before I do nirrit solo, I have to see what stage are people playing. Because Showdown is fun to play with randoms. It is like dark souls or elden ring. It is fun with friends rather than solo

[hidden creek]

永劫无间

[plush spear]

Tbh, i never have a random match in stage. Mostly is solo or have own party. Random match is kinda rare

[hidden creek]

well the problem with showdown is easy stages you can just do it solo, hard stages you need people who aren't deadweights

[plush spear]

Hard stage with solo is playable. But nightscream, nah that is pure anguish.

Especially in defend stage

[hidden creek]

when i say hard stages i mean it's hard or impossible to do alone/run with people who don't know what they're doing, not literal ''hard'' difficulty

[fierce light]

Enemies have 40% of their HP in solo mode and deal less damage. So if you're able to carry more weight than others, for most missions you're better off soloing.

[thorn narwhal]

can u pick this ring in late stages or only the zones u clear while having it count

14/15 for example

[fierce light]

https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1314720450949021777

[hidden creek]

showdown is 征神之路

[hidden creek]

it's useless if you pick it on late stages anyway

[thorn narwhal]

i mean lvl 3 is very solid, and might need it to complete the survival blessing

[hidden creek]

i mean you gotta have the ring before you clear the stage for it to goes up

so picking it late like ur example 14/15 zone it's useless

[thorn narwhal]

uh alr

[fierce light]

It used to work that way, but they nerfed it

[grim girder]

Is dual Windfall better than Windfall and Dmg to Boss?

[hidden creek]

on this jade dual windfall is better

[grim girder]

Does Windfall effect depend on jade being used?

[hidden creek]

no

[fierce light]

With element scaling so high now due to Lotuses, I'd say yes.

[naive vector]

I FINALLY FOUND A MATCH!!! after 20 mins queue

[round glacier]

Lol

What you que for?

Manticore hard done

nightscream left…

Oeee new feria skill is nice

[fierce light]

Yup, newest hardest hitting ability in the game at the moment

[round glacier]

Lots of hits

[fierce light]

Honestly glad they took that approach rather than removing [Moderation]

[naive vector]

Nitris

@karmic tiger

are you on?

[karmic tiger]

im running ranked trios w some friends rn

[lucid chasm]

anyone want to team up with me to do manticore hard?

[amber terrace]

sea?

[lucid chasm]

na i am on na

i just have a japanese name

oh and i am on xbox

so if any one is on steam or something like it we cant play

game not crossplay

[fierce light]

It is crossplay, just not crossprogression.

[karmic tiger]

still down to run it? i need to level up tarka

[lucid chasm]

i am

manticore are you up to that

[naive vector]

What sense level are you? I am at the first stage of chapter 4 in normal mode. I need to speed run to hard mode

[karmic tiger]

what is the manticore

[lucid chasm]

1025

the manticore is in the showdown

[karmic tiger]

im at level 772 :') im still very new

[lucid chasm]

it is one of the modes you can fight

[naive vector]

oh okay, almost as same as me. I am 708

give me like 10 mins, I just joined a game

[lucid chasm]

i think we would need to boost you first before going after him

[karmic tiger]

alright just lmk when :>

[lucid chasm]

you need to be like 980 sense for the one i need to do

[fierce light]

It's interesting they locked missions to certain sense levels. Can't just power level people through the story really quick anymore, but that's probably for the best

They end up max level with little game mechanic knowledge

[lucid chasm]

yeah

what are you zero?

you sense

do you play showdown

[fierce light]

I'm at like 1111, but my internet is down at the moment

[round glacier]

1120 is max right?

[hidden creek]

after seeing his calculation stuffs i also want to ask him this question

[lucid chasm]

sorry for your loss

internet is my life

if that is gone i am dead

[fierce light]

Luckily I have data

But can't play anything really

[lucid chasm]

well till then

i am bored anyone need help

i do ranked and showdown i think i am pretty good at both

[fierce light]

Ima have to solo that new boss for a bit to learn it's moveset

His orb attack has like 4 different mixups, it's crazy

[lucid chasm]

yeah i hate that move

[hearty rivet]

How do you survive his spinning lightning-barf attack? 👀

[lucid chasm]

barf lol

[fierce light]

Hope you don't get hit on the start up. Then defuse and dodge cancel when your iframe is about to run out. It'll eat up your stamina if you have Defuse Solve so timing is key.

Has anyone parried the blue ball successfully? It spawns too high up

[hearty rivet]

Yeah often it just starts it on me and once it hits me it's a stunlock till death x.x
This season I'll have to learn to properly dodge cancel 😔

If you mean the ball that activates the poison orbs then yes, 1-2 times in nirriti, when I was right in front of the boss

[fierce light]

Yeah definitely can't dodge through it cause it's too wide

Not as fun as Korvine imo, but that's cause of the crazy amount of delayed mixups

[round glacier]

I think for that lighting stuff there is an area behind him that seems same

Save

[hearty rivet]

he always does it for me with his back against the arena wall ^^;;;;

[round glacier]

Or on top of him worked one time by accident lol

True its annoying

I keep trying to stand on top of him when he does that nonesense

[woeful monolith]

[still mortar]

The lightning one?

[fierce light]

Yeah

[still mortar]

Yea i did, Only with jump parries tho.

On the ground feels weird

[night verge]

Scorching is useless in this patch right?

[karmic tiger]

do yall still wanna play showdown?

[fierce light]

No, it just got a slight nerf cause of the potentials

I wouldn't recommend it without Draco Stride though

[naive vector]

@karmic tiger lets go

[quaint girder]

I did, you have to do it when it gets level to the ground just as it's about to hit the toxin orbs. Very hard to do, especially if he follows up with another attack.

[fierce light]

Yeah too risky imo

[naive vector]

guys where can I find info how to get specific souljade?

[fierce light]

In the narakapedia if you haven't gotten it before

[naive vector]

what stage drops Dreadful wall souljade? I need that

[twin ledge]

huh?

is ur matari not max level?

[naive vector]

My matari is max level. I played showdown 1 year ago and had dreadful wall souljade and accidentally deleted it

[quaint girder]

finally

I'm still a bit salty the progression is not retroactive. God that took two full seasons to fucking find.

[naive vector]

now I need to find it again, but they changed everything on showdown

[fierce light]

I don't recall that being a Souljade. Do you mean Assassin's Lunge cause Dreadful Wail is in her base kit?

[naive vector]

1 year ago. I spammed dreadful wall in a second. now I can't do dreadful wall because I don't have the souljade

[quaint girder]

Dreadful Wail is baked into her kit.

Dreadful Wail is when she leaps into the air and does all those multiple dash attacks.

[naive vector]

The lightning speed multiple dash attack yeah

I cant do it anymore

[quaint girder]

Dreadful Wail key input is Attack > Dodge > Hold/Double Tap Vertical

[fierce light]

That's Assassin's Lunge

[naive vector]

ahhh

damn it was teh vertical

[quaint girder]

Assassin's Lunge is when you just Attack > Dodge > Attack

[naive vector]

I kept pressing the horizontal. I got it thanks

[quaint girder]

yep

[fierce light]

Oh confused me with dash attack

You can hold vertical/horiztonal > tap horizontal/vertical > tap vertical for Dreadful Wail without dashing for it.

[quaint girder]

yep, as long as you hold/tap Vertical after the first dash then it converts into Dread

[twin ledge]

oh thats what they were asking was confused for a second

[tacit nest]

any tips on parrying the manticore cuz FUCK

[quaint girder]

eyy lmao

[twin ledge]

fc that boss ngl

that boss is cringe

[tacit nest]

apologies

[twin ledge]

has combo attacks that are near close to impossible to dodge

[tacit nest]

i been tryna practice with the manticore and its like near impossible to parry

could be skill issue

[twin ledge]

i can parry it just fine its just its attack combo's are just so broken so i just use thunder and keep my distance

[tacit nest]

any tips?

[twin ledge]

u consol?

if so ask dark for that i play a different way than most so it wont help u very much

[fierce light]

I just look for the flash of light for the most part, but for the ball attack I haven't parried that yet.

[tacit nest]

im pc but play controller

[tacit nest]

that ball attack is crazy man

[tame kelp]

Which ball attack?

If it’s the throw I usually just defuse it

I start charging when he spins then press the button on the sound queue

[amber terrace]

[nocturne pagoda]

Hi, how do ice builds deal with freezing this season>? dont see any ice break or anything used so was wondering

[tacit nest]

Ahhhhh

Ok I gotcha

I usually defuse on that sort anyway

I just need timing tips and shi

[tame kelp]

honestly i feel you im stuck playing 15 levels below the mission

[thorn narwhal]

did last update impact showdown performance to anyone else

[tame kelp]

nah but it tanked my ping

been running at 120 ping from 20 ping

[subtle bramble]

For me it actually improved performance, my game would often crash before this update

[tame kelp]

lucky you

my ping drastically increased in both showdown and pvp

[subtle bramble]

It was pity for what i had to endure before the update😭

[tame kelp]

real

crashes suck

[fierce light]

Honestly seems to run smoother than when they first added Ice Blast

[tacit nest]

My ping been diabolical this season

Gets better those every game I play

Almost like the game needs to warm up😭

[fierce light]

If they have Moderation, they just hold their ability till they're about to freeze

[thorn narwhal]

very odd i got both worse connection and performance stability

[thorn narwhal]

did u have to make a clean reinstall or new update fixed itself

[subtle bramble]

Just updated it, tbh i hope i don't jinx it

[magic prairie]

Same here. Been since newest update

[woeful monolith]

Its because of the graphic setting Post Processing . Make sures its on medium at most.

[thorn narwhal]

haha hoping u best luck u won't

[tacit nest]

anyone able to help me clear nightscream nirriti to get the lotus jades?

[twin ledge]

Sure

What’s ur id

Wait I can help u get it done in a little but can still go ahead and add u

[tacit nest]

all good bro

all i need is to beat it one time and id be grateful

ItzFantOm3

[twin ledge]

No Id

[tacit nest]

ohhhh

[twin ledge]

User id

[nocturne pagoda]

so whats the best atribute for new jades? thunder? poison? ice? 😉

[tacit nest]

10672000150169

[twin ledge]

Won’t allow me to search u up as name

[twin ledge]

I sent friends request

[tacit nest]

i accepted

how do you get that golder demon mark next to your character bro?

thats tight

[twin ledge]

Top 10 Yama

[nocturne pagoda]

Everyone enjoying new lotus noises and pops and cracks and stuff? ;D

[twin ledge]

It still gave us them before season ended

Even the speedrun from last week speedrun

[fierce light]

The ice one has a little sharp sound, but I don't mind them

[quaint girder]

LFG for Doom NA

[surreal saffron]

does the aqua chains ring require some special condition to appear,?

[burnt axle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pIFAuZxxG0 Bi izleyin gençlik tavsiye ederim ilk videom 👍 ❤️

[twin ledge]

U still need?

For nightscream

[fierce light]

Appears to be random

[polar light]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1DZqnY5EZd/?spm_id_from=333.999.0.0&vd_source=8405839464f4cd4c8b44940c85f18820

ICE lotus build have potential but i don't know if it is better than thunder scorch

its still early to judge

[twin ledge]

Will have to wait till we max are potential to see

That’s why I’m waiting and haven’t built lotus yet

[polar light]

yeah

[quaint girder]

anyone want to help me run doom?

I'm on immovable, I just need one other person to clear as hard as i can

[woeful monolith]

I will say, when I choose Ying Yang I tend to get it more than other builds. Yesterday I got it twice and it had me thinking about previously getting Aqua chains in the same build/character aka Wuchen.

[woeful monolith]

I got you

[quaint girder]

I consistently get 2m+ damage so I'm just lacking a little more omph from my teammates to clear

[quaint girder]

thnx 1867400000164

[woeful monolith]

Think were already friends

[quaint girder]

ign?

have to check my list

[woeful monolith]

S6ix

[quaint girder]

NA?

I see you

okay

[woeful monolith]

Check DM's so were not spamming Showdown chat

[fierce light]

Yueshan Lotus mod build sounds strong for bossing

[fierce light]

Season 2.5: Yama's Abyss - Line Up

[plain spire]

@fierce lightDo you have the data of attributes that affects elemental dmg?

[fierce light]

It's affected by all DMG Bonuses (aside from niche ones like Thunderbolt DMG or Lotus DMG)..

Only Burn has specific DMG Bonuses that can affect it atm.

[short meadow]

do you know which souljade they are using?

[polar light]

@LordDuck This

In the video they are using Frozen blast instead of Arcane

[short meadow]

Thanks . also which potential they are using?

blue one?

[polar light]

But either can be used up to u

[polar light]

Yeah

[fierce light]

Yeah Blue Path is for Ice.

[thorn narwhal]

did u rule out lotus ice > lotus poison yet

[fierce light]

Lotus Ice > Lotus Poison in terms of mobbing. At least for mobs that die too quickly to make use of Poison like in Solar 2.

I feel like Lotus Poison > Lotus Ice in terms of bossing though.

[thorn narwhal]

hmm I think u could proc and abuse ice more tho

[fierce light]

Poison can summon 4+ Lotuses per Poison Blast (+1 from Noxious Blast, +2 from Pestilent Pool, +1 from Infectious Touch). It also has Toxin Blast still for enemies that last long enough to get 6 stacks of [Toxified]. Pestilent Pool can generate an additional one for each enemy within.

Ice summons 3 Lotuses per Ice Blast (if you have Successive Ice Blast). Haven't tested it yet, but it also has/had a bug that doesn't allow it to activate on consecutive enemies in a short period of time.

[thorn narwhal]

guess I should not rush building ice/ ice mod then it seems the 2 of them are kinda head to head

and I assume thunder is completely out too

[fierce light]

Thunder is a bit harder to account for, but I think you're better off running Thunder Scorch than it.

Can't lie, this is the most fun I've had with a build yet. It did take like 500+ recasts to set up though.

[signal kite]

[fierce light]

Practicing getting used to watching the cooldown on Poison Blast.

[thorn narwhal]

not too shabby

sometimes i still don't get how poison CD works or why it sometimes proc faster than other

[signal kite]

How is enigma domain drop rates , haven't tried a single enigma till now so wondering will it be as fulfilling as doing nirriti !!

[hidden creek]

Unless you got gold key, otherwise not worth running

[rough gate]

nirriti gets boring but do it till ur potential is high

[signal kite]

Okie gotcha

[plain spire]

are you using elemental lotus on poison ?

[drifting lance]

🎉 | fisher leveled up!

[rough gate]

in ice category, its tricky, like says x activatged renewel, and a souljade like awakened , does it activated of cinderfrost

[round glacier]

Nope

[pale crystal]

been running several nightsceam and still no sign of Ghastbloom, the manticore nightscream is too hard even though my sense is 1100. My fatigue is >2000 now. Can anyone carry me through Manticore for farming ghastbloom?

[hidden creek]

early into the season nirriti nightscream is still your best chance farming new soul jades

at this moment i doubt there's any people who's comfortably carrying manticore ns, let alone willing to carry you

[clever glade]

Keep doing ruins nightscream bro, I got it on my second run

[round glacier]

Same

I can do manticore hard solo

Nightscream is crazy lol

If someone figures the lightning @ 50% 2nd phase out im all ears

Damage seems like an insta kill but thunder counter might help

[pale crystal]

@fierce light is the secret anima "divine army from the sky" in this pedestal here?

[plain spire]

https://youtu.be/kRkeLt0mMa0?si=0IhPF7vtbvtjAPPD

[pale crystal]

ahh i see

[plain spire]

i just got that anima a moment ago on my 2nd account

[naive vector]

anyone free to play showdown with me and one other guy? trying to speedrun hardmode and level up sense

[river stratus]

+1

[drifting lance]

🎉 | quaverr leveled up!

[naive vector]

I got 1 player already before you, but please help after one of them leave. I will let you know

[bold ice]

i tried jumping over

oh wait no, you mean the lightning showers, not the sweeping AOE

[lone umbra]

I did with chain defuse

[granite marsh]

Possible to just dodge the lightning flashes on the ground or just position where there isn't any lightning spots

[fierce light]

Gonna try and record a deathless solo run later

[timid stirrup]

just got this from a nirriti ns

[hearty rivet]

Did you kill ns manticore before? 👀 (asking for science 😔 )

[timid stirrup]

no i didnt

[fierce light]

I didn't either

Got 2 before I did

[timid stirrup]

i just need toxified lotus now

[rough gate]

theres spots where it doesnt hit in the aoe, try running a few defense% sjs

funny how the have element lotus, and tox lotus, and they both the same thing, just ones stock poison, others stock ice or lightning

getting a kurimi to healer ult could help that massive lightning attack

[hidden creek]

they're not the same thing

[rough gate]

i noticed u can run both toxic and elemental lotus, usually its one of the other

the description line is identical subbing out inflincting toxified with triggering element blast

[hidden creek]

yeah, read again

[rough gate]

theres some typo on the poison one, the top description says triggering miasma so that needs clarifying

and miasma poison? lol

[hidden creek]

poison blast and toxified are 2 different things

[hearty rivet]

ooo time to ns nirriti then and hope for the best 🥺 Alas, it is locked in choice souljade thing

[rough gate]

i know, which to choose , elemental happens first, then a toxified can happen, the tox lotus needs something else going make it more

[round glacier]

New jades drop in niriti hard and nightscream

[rough gate]

wooohooo

[hidden creek]

toxified only happens after elemental blast if you have noxious blast equipped 🙂

so no

you don't know about it

[round glacier]

Just cant use the choice until you do the manticore level

[rough gate]

well u use tox lotus then if u like it

[hidden creek]

i didn't ask you for what to use lol

[rough gate]

good .... were done here then

[hidden creek]

you're the one who can't tell the difference between toxified lotus and elemental lotus

[rough gate]

i dont think i care ur opinion of me

[hidden creek]

u're right, i don't care

about your ''opinion''

you're just wrong though

[rough gate]

ur just wasting valuable lines period its over

[hearty rivet]

yeah, I started to get elemental lotus and toxified lotus coincidentally after I smacked manticore hard so thought a manticore kill is rquired for those souljades to start dropping, why I'm happy they (sry, mixed up the people a bit, not enough sleep^^; ) got the ghastbloom before manticore nightscream kill

[hidden creek]

not your ''opinion'' is wrong but you wrong about facts

[rough gate]

lucky

tabbie stop

[fierce light]

Toxic Lotus generates one for every time you apply [Toxified]. It pretty much can only be used with Poison build.

Elemental Lotus is everytime you activate an Elemental Burst. It's best use with Ice since Successive Ice Blast turns one Elemental Burst into 3.

[rough gate]

yeah were clear thnx

therees a need a fix about the description saying needs miasma poisoning on tox lotus

[fierce light]

It says Miasma?

[rough gate]

the top short description right under title

see it

[fierce light]

I can't get on atm

[rough gate]

just a wrong interpretation from who wrote it ill try to send a pic i dont do a lot of discoring

[fierce light]

Ah i see

[rough gate]

value randomness would be cool maybe nice to get a perfect stat and flip it to a perfect attack or choose

u did a lot of recasting for ur poison jades is that so DZ

[fierce light]

Yeah you can only get random % when you're recasting a rare attribute

I went ahead and invested in my poison build since it felt so fun to play

[rough gate]

my ingame names FridayNightShowdown, we did some runs on same team back time ago

[fierce light]

Ice build is still the strongest for Solar 2 atm though

[rough gate]

hehe, souljade rich to have a good six for each element, thats not me

without testing it i wonder if u can say , cinderfrost does it externally decline frost ect. activate springs call or not

[fierce light]

Nope, but it activates Reawakening iirc

[rough gate]

thnx, theres a few unknowns in potential tree, poisons activates recovery effect pick , and ices pick that adds a bit of self ice meter on all strikes, alll strikes - no idea how or what thats

[round glacier]

Ice intresting

[rough gate]

yeah i coming up with lotsa ice theories

[fierce light]

Frost Douse is similar to Tundra Might.

It increases the accumulation of Frostbite by 50%. So basically you'll take 2/3rds as many attacks to proc Ice Blast.

[rough gate]

oh ok so all strikes meaning, any attack oh really takes .33 less nice

[fierce light]

Hydro's Bound works similarly, but for Toxin. Increases it's accumulation by 70% so you take ~6/10ths the amount of attacks to proc.

[round glacier]

Doew cyan increase it even further?

[rough gate]

by a unknown perfect

percent

[round glacier]

Could proc crazy fast

[rough gate]

trues

diminshing returns posssibility.

[round glacier]

Spamming with kurumi is epic lol

Easily best cyan animation

[rough gate]

one big windup can get enuff to ignite a poison counter eh

[fierce light]

Cyan Fang is a bit more complicated, it differs in the amount per weapon, but yeah it has bonus accumulation for it's Wielding type.

[rough gate]

just have to hit hit till it goes off, it seems faster attackers get easier element booms, pretty balanced i dunno vs a greatsword

[round glacier]

Aerial rend has crazy accumulation

[fierce light]

It's a separate multiplier so they multiply on each other. No diminishing returns

[round glacier]

At least it seems like it

[rough gate]

it does like every hit!

final value dimishing returns. im no combat balancer just thoery

someday next week future whenever itll be on a video of a quick element boom setup

[fierce light]

Aerial Rend has a damage coefficient over 10, which is already high enough to proc on a mob. The bonus accumulation brings it to around 14.4 for the first charge.

[rough gate]

off element is element #2 eh or

[fierce light]

The amount added doesn't seem to be a consistent % for all attacks, Cyan Fang nearly doubling the rate it does.

Off-element is like having a Poison Wielding Jade trying to do Ice

[rough gate]

thats goofy totally unaware

now that they have just element in the descriptions , does that apply , or for sure about , pretty misleading, the old jades makes sense for a -

i get it i get it, ok

[fierce light]

Yeah it's just their Wielding they have

[rough gate]

some tittles have a specific element in descript

like benthic descent

[fierce light]

Weird, that should be any element

They changed it to where they deal the damage of the wielding that's applied to them

[rough gate]

and then says varies with attribute, meaning its value changes if its no longer lightning icon

[fierce light]

Yeah the icon changes their target element

[rough gate]

yeah and if description says thunder, and u change that its gonna be - buildup makes sense

[scenic moth]

Can u share your build? Need this.

[rough gate]

im puffed, havnt got this one, how the ice builders in high ranks go on without a ice meter reducer and dont self freeze

ill wait see about that one and play some NArrrakkaa

[scenic moth]

@fierce light U here?

[fierce light]

• Noxious Blast
• Pestilent Pool
• Infectious Touch
• Ghastbloom
• Toxic Lotus
• Solidification | Miasma Drive

[scenic moth]

Potential? U using middle?

Thank you for build.

[fierce light]

Yes, red for poison lotus

[river stratus]

about this build is more important dmg to boss or poison blast dmg?

[scenic moth]

Thank u ^^

[fierce light]

Poison Blast DMG

Toxin Blast : 48.00 DMG Coefficient
Bloom Blast • Poison: 4.54 DMG Coefficient

Bloom Blast procs 4 times per Poison Blast, so you need a minimum of 264% Poison Blast DMG for it to out damage Toxin Blast per rotation. That's not including the damage from Lotus Impact • Poison & Poison Blast.

[turbid agate]

Sorry if this has been asked before, but what element corresponds or works best for each character? Like Temulch=ice, Wuchen=thunder, etc...

Trying to make a build for each character

[hidden creek]

we don't have that
what element you choose depends on the build itself

not the character

there's indeed the case where some characters is better at using some builds compare to others
but in the end element generally has nothing to do with the character you play

[fierce light]

Yeah tabbie covered it pretty well , but when it comes to Moderation builds:

• Viper Ning, Feria Shen, Tarka Ji, Yueshan & Tessa all can use them.

[turbid agate]

Awesome thank you guys!

[bronze wharf]

he did it ! XD

[timid stirrup]

stupid ? from me

does the ns quest need to be defeated to pick the jades from choice gifts or random gifts

[thorn narwhal]

need to have the jade dropped atleast once to be able to choose it

[tame dock]

is their certain charactors that do good in this or do you just pick what you enjoy?

[timid stirrup]

really? i thought the stage just needed to be cleared

[thorn narwhal]

nope

[steep patio]

There are characters that are better then others

Depends on your build

[hidden creek]

?

[hidden creek]

this is true

you just need to clear the corresponding stage once

then you can choose the sj that that stage drops

from sj choice gift

[thorn narwhal]

no?

[hidden creek]

sj random gift can drop any sj even if you haven't cleared the corresponding stage

[thorn narwhal]

its literally locked

[hidden creek]

have you cleared the corresponding stage?

[thorn narwhal]

yes

40 times

[hidden creek]

show me

[thorn narwhal]

couldn't choose it

[hidden creek]

yeah, show me

[thorn narwhal]

was last season already

[hidden creek]

you just remembered it wrong

i guarantee what i said is right

[thorn narwhal]

@hidden creek

[hidden creek]

have you cleared manticore ns?

[thorn narwhal]

no but it was exactly like this last season while having them cleared

[hidden creek]

go clear it then try again

[river stratus]

poison?

[fierce light]

Yup

It's pretty nasty on Tessa ngl

I can stunlock him for an entire rotation

Could be a bit faster, but I missed an ability that failed to interrupt his ultimate attack

[hearty rivet]

his spinning attack keeps killing me 😭

[bold ice]

They should honestly look at dark souls and take notes for boss design

[bright fjord]

i never actually paid attention to the numbers. is 68M normal?

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Danny6Fingers leveled up!

[hidden creek]

do you have the ring that instantly kill enemies below 10% hp?

[bright fjord]

yeah, i remember picking that one up

makes sense now lol. thank

[hearty rivet]

whewww! took my precious time with the good old supersafe skyfire build + Wuchen 😭

[thorn narwhal]

oh also

100%
nirriti is better as of now

[fierce light]

Yeah just go to Enigma to level your Sense faster. No point right now though with so much stuff to unlock in Nirriti.

8 Catch-Up points from 2 Crystals + 2 Epics is crazy.

[plain spire]

What Stage is Thundra might drop? i can't seem to find it...

[surreal saffron]

the water boss, nightscream?

[plain spire]

Nothing on special drop list, i can't seems to find it on any normal drop list either special hmm..

[surreal saffron]

check nirriti

[plain spire]

nothing too, probably bug or something its not on any list of droppable soul jade on any stage.

[timid stirrup]

nirriti ns

@fierce light is stat priority atk > element blast dmg > dmg to boss?

[hearty rivet]

I'm pretty sure I got a ton of that from hard nirriti or topaz enigma last season.

[timid stirrup]

unlock location

[fierce light]

Yes, for Lotus builds.

[timid stirrup]

thanx. i just wanted to make sure. also, what r ur thoughts on lotus build on wuchen?

[fierce light]

It's kinda awkward on him cause he doesn't want to be that close (or his Aegis-Break does less damage).

[tacit nest]

aye @fierce light you said to unlock ghastbloom and toxified lotus i needa do nightscream nirriti??

[fierce light]

You can do it there

or do the new mission on Nightscream

[tacit nest]

YOO

just randomly got toxified

from a might leg souljade

all i need is ghast

[plain spire]

Try doing night scream manti core on first phase it got loot, i got mine doing from first phase loot. 😅