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light weapons = all but GS and PS?
Yeah
not valda or viper bcs they got defuse solve?
It can work on them, they just can't chain Defuses as well
thank you for your wisdom
and btw you fast af to answer 
No problem
@fierce light who is your favorite hero to use generally 😄
Yoto Hime
LFG EU
does anyone know where in showdown u get draco and stormstride?
nirriti
Quick question I'm currently using yoto hime and the build I went for is popular set 2 idk if that's the build I should be going for im only missing incineration
if its thunder scorch no u shouldn't be going for it
if poison u don't need incineration
No it has me use thunder pull incineration thunder counter Draco stride aerial rend and thunderproof and to have ice on all of them
ye that's thunder scorch
What would be the go to then
poison cyan feng or normal hydroflare
for yoto u would want normal poison with aerial rend
So this one sorry still kinda new to this
yes that
Cool one final question if I were to buy the showdown pass could I instantly get those or would I need to have those unlocked to be able to choose them
needs to be unlocked/ dropped 1 time atleast
Dang
yea getting them is hard since u missed the event
Yea just gotta level up for now to be Able to do those stages
since there's no actual build for those stages maybe u can try ur luck with standard thunder counter build? dark might confirm if its still good
here are the builds https://dark-zer0.github.io/Showdown/build.html?option=1
Appreciate the help
np
should I just do recast value to make it to 50 and go now with 2nd rare?
@thorn narwhal forgot to ask what would be the patch I would follow with potentials with the poison build
Thanks
yes if thats the rare u were looking for. 2nd rare would go on counter
Thanks!
do u already have +12 scorching?
Not yet, just +7 currently. Still looking for 1 scorching
then if u want to make that thunderproof scorching u can or keep it as wf
Just 1 more scorching reroll so I can hit that +12 
I prolly shouldve asked if u had 4 rare scorching attributes instead of +12 total... if u have 4 scorching attributes u can just keep the wf cuz u can just max out the scorchings so it totals +12
got my 4th a few mins ago, now just need to farm for recast value to get +12 scorching
nice and it was on the wf thunderproof
so ur at +9 now just need to get the stats maxed
yes
on an avg how many recasts you guys did to get Scorching +2 to +3? I did 32x and it didn't push through 
just unluky, dont remember exactly but i spend less than 32x from lev1 to lev3 scorch
na group of 2 lfm , currently doing nightscream inirriti but can do othjers too hmu
i got my 2 lvl 3 on first try xD

but now my luck ran out xD
did 17x just now lvl2 -> 3 all failed xD
Hi. Someone can help explain how to play with the Thunder Scorch build? I can't do enough damage. I'm doing better with Skyfire Storm, but it's not enough to pass paragon 8
Counter hit dodge basically
Thunderpull builds up thunder you can counter
Ice element makes thunder build up faster
- You need at least [Scorching] +9 for it to be effective.
- Build up your Thundershock by hitting enemies with your highest DPS attack (usually charged attacks).
- When Divine Thunder activates, Parry the first bolt, Dodge Cancel the parry, use an Uncharged Horizontal, then Parry one of the last 2 Bolts.
- Make sure to apply Soak (from Draco Stride) between each proc of Scorching so you don't overwrite the previous.
Sensei has spoken
Hey guys, new to showdown here.
So, I've been searching for a nice build for Yoto on https://dark-zer0.github.io/Showdown/build.html?option=1 but I don't own any of those jades. I linked bellow the jades I own. How do you obtain specific jades? And is the mode playable solo, or is it best to play with two other persons?
(I'm sorry, those questions probably have been already asked a dozen times but I couldn't find any answer elsewhere.)
The properties of jade are not the best, but I play with what I have. about "When Divine Thunder activates, Parry the first bolt, Dodge Cancel the parry, use an Uncharged Horizontal, then Parry one of the last 2 Bolts" - problem with this. I can't make a move like that
If there's a Souljade you haven't gotten before, it'll tell you where it drops in the Narakapedia. Every mission can be done solo, the enemies will have 40% of the HP they'd have from Trios, so in terms of difficulty to number of people it goes from Duo > Solo > Trio.
[It'll look like this.](#👾┃showdown message)
It's nice when it shows which key to press
wait there’s duos in showdown?
or when you queue for trios and only have 2 members it scales accordingly?
No, just queueing for Trios as a Duo. You still have to fight enemies scaled to Trios.
Ach okay, thanks!
Thanks, I didn't know about the whole Narakapedia thing and found it useful. However, I've been searching for "culmination" for like 10 mins and couldn't find it anywhere. I feel kinda dumb 
It's the final mission in the newest chapter.
Thanks!
Does Windfall increase the level of Scorching if they're on the same SJ?
Ex: Windfall +50% and Scorching +3 would that increase that by 1.5 something?
no
windfall only increase non-rare attribute
@eternal elm
It's pretty sad that there's no way to play offline in modes where it's more than possible - Yama for example.
Paragon at 140 ping and Paragon at 100 ping are already very different in difficulty. Honest 0 ping offline for everyone would solve half of problems of competitive mode.
yama's already feels 0 ping compared to trio and other modes
anyonje want to team up on Na server
any tips where i can practice catching the divine thunder? i fail most of the time in catching a 2nd divine thunder for thunder scorch
theres a showdown training room
oh yeah, I completely forgot about that. I found it! Thanks!
can also turn off fatigue and practice on showdown bosses at different difficulties and get familiar with boss attacks while learning timing for thunder counters
yeah i was doing that a while ago, but I wanted something not moving hahaha like this training room
about trio I agree, about solo I don't, ease in yama feels at expense of fps, not ping.
can somebody help me fix my souljade set
im trying to finish astral 3 but cant seem to kill it
im already at astral 2
here is my current setup using feria
can somebody give me guidance 🙏 i have enough resource to change every sj available
Try using other set like poison since that stage has crimson mist and use it to your advantage as poison build
change some attributes to defuse trigger recovery. atk/health/dmg to boss should b on every sj
im trying to do big scorch damage will it be good??
u need scorching in order to do scorch dmg
is there any sj i need to change?? i dont think cooperward giving any boost
yaa ill find them i mean
copper ward is a bigg boost for hydroflare/scorch dmg
cuz its based on health. and copper ward removes all armor and converts it to health
yes
can i change the draco stride to stromstride?
blazing flame on potential is active?
no u need draco to apply soak
i see
wait whats that
for hp scaling you need tht point
wait sending u my potential
the potential tree is what quaverr is referring to
right top green
switch all to green?
you need only the right one
top right green top left blue
ur missing points
check pin message potential build for hydro is there
should look like this
ur missing points from quests
i'd offer to help u complete those quests but im at work for another 3hrs lol
will this do for now?
its okay hahaha still quite far need 151 points
do i need to change any sj?? or i just need to change the stat now?
ill try to find them
or scorching
the set is good the stats need work
do have duplicates of those jades that might have better stat %
no sadly i only keep 2 of each sj in my bag
well then GL w/ getting the stats u want/need
u already have 6x atk so ur good there
thanksss🙏
and 3x health
once u change the unwanted stats to stats u need should do slightly better
alrd got 6x atk, 6 health, dmg to boss 3, 3 defuse
3 windfall and 3 moderation XD still no scorching to be found
i see will do
You need some Defuse triggers Recovery. Otherwise, Incineration will slowly kill you overtime, especially with the Poison on a lot of the Yama's Abyss floors.
Oh you didn't have the main Potential Glyph either, yeah that'll do it.
yea im using 4 defuse recovery now but after all of those adjustments i cant seem to even pass the first one
i used to have 5 hp bars now only 2 and im not really good at defusing
so cant tank any hits but from my past stats it dont seem to do much regarding health
can just don't equip copper ward
need the dmg from there
still the same im using cooper ward just like in the beginning but now i cant even get pass 1 minute
let me try again
this build is high risk high reward , need a lot of practice
can use this setup
i see
using that build i die from 1 skill(that one from the sky)
okay ill try
finally i live
using this build
thanks everyone helping @timid stirrup @fierce light @river stratus @hidden creek

Your damage will go through another spike when you get Water and Fire Raged.
I hope this dude on EU, who closed Paragon 9 to first place on all heroes, doesn't do same thing on final Paragon.
They want to be the only one with the 1st place badge
GL i just clear stage 10 and bye bye till next season
I hope not, because it's an abomination to all other players.
Why would you want Paragon 10 if you're not aiming for top 3?
why not get a clear when i have an hydrofare strong enuff?😅

Hi! what if I don't use Uncharged Horizontal? Just dodge and continue with last 2 Bolts
Then you'll only be able to apply Scorching once instead of twice.
This is so difficult move. After Uncharged Horizontal I can do only 1 bolt or nothing
or my hands are crooked
Yeah there's a good chance you'll take a hit of damage
That's why at least 1 Counter triggers Recovery attribute is recommended.
Will I be able to defeat Paragon 8 with Skyfire Storm? if I can't learn the moves Thunder Scorch build
depends on your stats
and skill, ofc
and what kind of hardware and ping you have.
Yes, I use a skyfire build and am able to clear everything so far
that's all I have
and
it was so easy for me with Skyfire Storm and then happened paragon 8
I'm missing 30-45 sec
You'd want a Hydroflare build against Korvine. She does so many attacks that you're going to be overwritting your Burns more often than not.
Skyfire build works better against multiple enemies you can apply Burn to at once.
Just unfortunate that Wuchen feels awkward with it cause his Defuse sends him backwards. Would be nice if they added an alternative source of Soak.
what hero did u usually use? if u able to use wuchen, try uncharge vertical, it take less animation and u have a chance to parry last 2 bolts
Wuchen - Skyfire Storm
Tarka - Thunder Scorch
I can't do it with Tarka to parry last 2 bolts
only 1
maybe try some other build with another hero?
By the way, I turn 180 degrees to get closer to the boss
There's always the Standard Hydroflare build
Which was made when Korvine was released.
I didn't use Standard Hydroflare last season. Maybe it's time)
just need to understand how it works
maybe u should try to do uncharge vertical too with tarka
I started training today. So maybe not enough experience
no worries , i ll train hard enough to be the 1st at my main
i never treated it too much serious but at final paragon i ll
Next week is going to be crazy probably on leaderboards for sure then next season in 1 or 2 weeks I think?
2 week, 5 December new season.
Thx! So I got 2 weeks to git gud, somehow kill yama6 and see if later stages are harder 😅
i'm sorry, can i upload a video here? i just want to make sure the correct way to do 2 procs
Yeah you can post videos here
is it right sir?
Yup. As long as you fit in a melee attack within that Thunder Counter, you can do what you want afterwards.
Tarka has a fast Uncharged Vertical so he can get away with that, while others can't.
goshhh my music is recorded too😭
yess, but i'm not good at playing tarka. i usually play with wuchen
still learning to get used to the defuse
Wuchen is a bit on the fast side. But it should be similar to that
i often forget to cancel the counterattack after defuse while using tarka😓
too comfortable using wuchen whose can do chain defuse
this is an interesting thunder scorch
maybe because I'm on the higher ping side, but for me on yama I can counter any attack on cue, dodge out or defuse exactly as the game should be but on trios I can never it feels like an extra 200 ping has been added
How long does the target stay "Soaked" when your dodging in the beginning? I normally Counter then Dodge then attack, dodge, counter one more time, then attack or use the counter attack based on boss attacks.
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Iirc it's 3 seconds. It's more favorable to have the enemy Soaked before you apply Burn so there's no lost ticks of damage.
Ok for sure, Thanks Dark
Do defuse attacks work on anything?
Anything that's not a DoT effect.
We were so close, thanks @neat onyx & @vivid merlin 
any tips for this douche?
Dang that's a nice screenshot lol. I'm still learning it's mixups personally
lol me getting my ass destroyed, beautiful
Why is stormstride sword used in skyfire storm builds?
Also for cannon builds would Twinshot(2 shots at 65% dmg) outperform Shattered Edge?
It's used for heroes with a lot of hits on their defuses to boost their dps significantly. It also recharges Raging Flame quickly.
ne1 for na game- i just reached 1115 and looknnfor non solo fun
Technically yes for the Cannon itself, but it's not worth it. The damage is mainly from the element not the Cannon balls.
Does 2 shots increase buildup faster or its heavily impacted by the damage reduction?
Should I also stick with Thunder Cannon or the new Poison Cannon for more buildup?
Pro tip - just try not to die 🤗
They both take 2 shots to proc Poison Blast on Small Mobs. Only thing notable is that Poison Cannon takes 8 instead of 9 shots to proc on enemies with an Astral Aegis.
Twin Shot makes it take 4 shots instead.
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Adventure mode?
Copper Ward removes your armor if you're talking about that.
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what adventure mode?
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maybe he meant showdown(?)
tell him to check if he equipped this soul jade
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judge from how he don't know why he lose armor, no he shouldn't
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Copper Ward is a net negative if you're not running a specific build.
Better off running an Attack Souljade II instead.
im doing nirritis, which essence do i choose at the start? what is the weaknesses and strengths of each?
if there is no other epic/legendary souljade he can just use rare souljade to temporarily replace the copper ward
not ice
i did thunder as my first run it worked out well
i usually go with poison though
what is the reason to go for one over the other i mean
i mostly go with toxin
well poison got everything, aoe and good damages and aegis break
plus getting toxified won't kill you if you get to lv1 blessing
toxin is good for mobbing, the weakness is it will drain ur health but if u get the blessing u will be immune to toxified
so you can eat as many mushroom as you want
😄
aight thank you both
and if i'm not mistaken, it's immune to burn as well(?) like the burn damage from hellhole omen
one more thing if toxin is good for mobbing is thunder good for the bosses then?
Thunder > Ice >= Poison.
Thunder
- Has the highest scaling of the 3 elements.
- Doesn't need Elemental Confluence to be good.
- Can be vulnerable while Thunder Countering, but allows you to proc Counterstrike Rings.
Ice - Has the 2nd highest scaling of the 3 elements.
- Scales really well with Elemental Confluence.
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- Elemental Conversion can hurt your DPS without Elemental Confluence.
- 2nd Blessing can freeze you often, especially against groups of mobs.
Poison - Has the highest base damage of the 3 elements.
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- Scales very poorly with most Elemental Rings.
- Elemental Confluence is crucial for this element to be effective.
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- Elemental Conversion is a DPS loss, even with Elemental Confluence.
- 1st Blessing can toxify you often, eventually leaving you at 1 Health.
not really
since you don't just play element anyway
usually i go for lv1 poison blessing and lv2 burn blessing
You can get pretty fast runs focusing Thunder Blessing and a little bit of Yin Yang on the side since that makes you charge Thundershock the fastest.
the might*robust ring says at full health all hit dmg increase by 5% do i have to have full armor too then or just hp?
just hp
do anyone actually do a range build in these i get alot of range anima rings choices?

ahh ok
i think poison is way more useful than ice
u can just stop at lvl 4 and get great mob clear and extra boss dmg
The mobs tend to die before you can even get Toxin Blast off due to it missing so many of the things that make it proc faster (Noxious Blast, Infectious Touch & Poisonous Assault). If you're focusing Hydroflare that's fine, but if you want high elemental damage, Ice is better.
It's just unfortunate they didn't include Frozen Blast's Cooldown reduction in Ice's Blessing.
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Sorry if this was already discussed but I'm super behind the curve lately. With the wielding souljade changes how useful the weapon-specific sjs are now instead of cyan fang for poison builds? As I understand aerial rend is even stronger than before but what about other weapons?
Aside from Viper, Kurumi, and Matari, they'd all prefer their charged counterparts.
Cyan Fang does boast the highest accumulation rate though so it'll be close.
Thanks!
Cyan on kurumi is epic
Kurumi is able to proc Toxin Blast in 2 Cyan Fangs. It does seem to be the preferred option for bossing as well.
But when you account for Aegis-Break Rage, you can get more damage off with the Charged Attack:
wow
Hey @fierce light Would the ideal setup be then the 3 poison souljades, Repair Roll, Twinshot & Thunder/Poison Cannon? Purely for mobbing of course
Nope, you're just going to be eating your ammo up twice as fast for little gain.
Twin Shot also lowers the accumulation value of each Cannonball, so it goes from 2 → 4 Cannonballs to proc Poison Blast.
Not sure about this, but I usually choose element depending on what character I'm going to use.
Viper - Ice
Wuchen / Feria / Kurumi - Thunder
Valda - Poison
Can't say for the other characters since I don't use them, like at all. Since I'm a Kurumi main in Niritti runs, I always go for:
Main element - Thunder
Upgrades - Thunderbolt + Yin Yang (Counter if there's no other option)
I can sometimes do more damage (overall) than other member of the team with those stats.
lol no
Well it doesn't matter that much whatever element (except Thunder) would be used anyways. I really don't feel the difference when playing Niritti on hard and NS. Can't say the same for Legendary since its so hard to matchmake on that in SEA server.
I’m looking for a Showdown group for hard mode
Wow Paragon 10 is a doozy
Can confirm, there's no rank after Paragon 10
Alright got it
Probably because there's no reason to do legendary runs after the first clear. Most just farm Hard/Nightscream now in SEA
For those who have tried Legendary, does the SJ drop > NS at max fatigue?
Nope. I didn't run it much, but the few times I did the drops were identical.
According to the description on the difficulty missions for both it also states you get all Nightscream and Legendary souljades on either of the difficulties too
ok bough on paragon 10 is pretty tanky
times are probably going to be really slow without thunder scorch
Curious if someone can clear without it
Standard Hydroflare with high-to-max attributes probably
@granite marsh @fierce light
Well that just doesn't make any sense if both difficulties drops the same SJ. At the very least, they should at least make a variation of drops (both in quantity and quality) for each difficulty, otherwise Legendary is nothing but a level for those who dare to challenge it regardless of drops.
Higher difficulty should give higher percentage in yield as to also increase the interest/motivation of players to play said difficulty. Say, something like this:
I agree but then again luck is this game is wonky. I personally never felt the difference no matter the luck value even at Enigma with Blessing & Lucky Break
it doesn't make sense but that's how it is

or maybe higher difficulty indeed got higher chance for better drops BUT the difference between min and max drop is just too big, we couldn't even see the difference
Luck doesn't even mean anything at all IMO. If NS and legendary have the same drops, then what is the point.
No wonder matchmaking in Legendary isn't feasible most of the time, like I'm there for 10-15 minutes and not even 1 match found.
I just do it for season clear honestly
but the last time I matchmade to do it was a month ago or so
I can help you with it when a buddy of mine comes on later in the evening if you want
Yeah [I also think the higher difficulties should consume more fatigue](#1279840190193733793 message) the higher up you go. Cause otherwise, it would be nearly impossible to burn your fatigue running them.
I think the only way to get into a game now is via premades if going for Legendary
Exactly. They should give players more reason to play that difficulty. Imagine doing Legendary and all you get is 1 epic and the rest is rare. That isn't just wonky but also frustrating.
I got all Rares one time running it, so that's relatable.
I miss when they did make the harder content rewarding, like when Enigma Peak was first released it was amazing.
damn... that was a hard fight.. his rolling moves is really really very annoying.
I agree for the fatigue required for each run and have no problem about it, as long as the rewards are worth it.
Nice! What build did you use?
Scorching Build. I think you can go faster by going Copperward, but damn, you are one good defusers/dodger/parrier if you do. lol
I had a couple runs with crazy starts, like phase 2 at 1min, but then it does that bs with the orbs
Can't break them fast enough
yeah. and not sure if you can even break it when he summons the orbs behind him.
seems like you can't, but i did notice in 1 of my gameplay that the lower right ball was missing, so not sure how i destroyed that.
oh, and that clear took me 1 hour and 30 minutes of retrying. lol
i was very close to rage quitting the game and taking a break because of how insane his phase 2 is.
50000+ tries, still no win
Yeah I noticed he does his Ultimate early on so he starts doing his harder moveset earlier than usual.
My best try when i done first boss for 1 minute and 20 seconds, but the 2 phase fk the shit out of me
Yeah, but it would cost you a lot of damage.
Defuse • Aegis-Break or Defuse • Solidification would be safer options that don't sacrifice as much DPS.
nice
and i have no idea why final score is 1249... why not just close it to 1250.. it's triggering my OCD. lol
Such a weird number to end on yeah
how do you reach that???
cleared all quest.
hell yeah w man
are they gonna add more customizable features for yoto hime??
instead of just outfits?
this is my first season, can someone tell me what will happen when the season end?
Potential will be reset. Niritti's Collection Will be reset.
when ts gets reset do players have to change their builds? like is there gonna be a different meta?
She's a crossover character so I guess they're more limited on what they can choose
There's a strong chance that Thunder Scorch is getting nerfed next season. If they don't, then there won't be a reason to try any new builds tbh.
Season's about to end and I have only 2 SJ with scorching. 😢😢 Thinking of buying the showdown pass, but is it worth it? Or should I buy the one for the PVP instead
PvP one has better value tbh since it gives you the gold back and then some.
Assuming you complete it
I'll keep that in mind. Thanks.
Weird PvE pass costs more and doesn't offer gold back too
it does offer potentially a lot more cosmetics, if you level it up all the way
cause it gives you PvE currency
thank you! welp potential reset sound annoying
fuck man thats the only build i have
I'd probably buy it if I used yoto tbh. But the Viper cosmetics looks really lackluster even though I play her as 1/3 characters I main
I'm tempted to buy it mainly because of the Enigma keys. I prefer farming Enigma than Niritti tbh, just that I don't have that much of keys.
Danger in the deep nightscream is apparently a good place to farm those keys
You can convert it over to a Thunder build if they do. It's a pretty consistent build in that it doesn't rely on Potentials to be strong.
Only downside is that it relies on high attributes instead.
whats the thunder build? and the attributes im assuming is gonna be the red ones huh, that require flux?
Poison build is going to be a bit awkward when potential resets since Hydro's Bound and Poisonous Assault are such huge DPS boosts for it.
Thunderpull, Thunder Counter, Thunderproof (or Element Souljade), Sub-Zero Seal, Ice Break, & Spring's Call.
You're going to need:
- Divine Thunder DMG
- Attack
- Increase DMG to Boss
Does increase DMG to Boss affect Lightning/Poison/Burn Damage?
It doesn't affect Burn.
Ima catch up to you one day mayne 🤏🏼
Good, we need those boards popping again 💪🏾
the new season reset the yamas abyss ?
Yes, although I don't think it'll place us back at Bronze 1
New showdown season is different from the battle royale right? Different times?
Interesting, they're kinda close this time.

with 7 seconds to spare. nice job
Wow it seems pretty tanky
yes, need to be very good run
Should add this to pin
I guess I have to solo Showdown hard mode but I’ll knock it out my way B4 season over, finding help is hard mode for me lol
when you so lucky that you harm yourself
have you tried the dmg difference between +12 vs +18 ?
any new hero for showdown later after season end?
scorching capped at 12
just grind at nitiri normal to lvl up souljade faster and it would be easy walk finishing hard/nightmare mode.
i created new account yesterday and it is already at lvl 841 sj and didn't start hard mode morus isle yet. Now currently grinding at nitiri hard for good sj.
normal niriti solo same drop amount as party?
I think yes or much better drop, but when you can handle hard solo it is better. Gold drop is pretty good for solo hard mode run.
Normal drop rate is pretty random at 150% you can get all rare but in hard there's always a epic or gold.
but the leveling just for up sense what you mean right www
im doing both leveling sense and trying to get a armor souljade set with better stats.
but if you're intention is just lvl'ing sense faster then normal is better.
does he do the funny spin 
isn't better stats more good just to recast it
im looking for max stats to recast it later for armor stat to make my armor set hit harder.
stats this season are locked so if u got 90% stat it stays that way
recasting it to max is pretty expensive.
im new too and was just looking for something like this, you're a life saver!
yes 2 times
eerie bough has new spins? 👀
new? no i think is always same as enigma peak
I mean new compared to nirriti and regular nightscream boughs
https://www.douyin.com/video/7418756772942335284?modeFrom= here you can see
oh wow 👀
any tips on how to beat gelid yushan speedrun
team keeps dying midway through the first phase
Is ice build required?
Is it possible to get max level in the showdown pass with 13 days remaining? Also, does doing showdown also give aurora battlepass exp?
im level 10 now in showdown pass
Showdown Battlepass XP is limited by your fatigue, so no.
Not at all! Cinder-thingie souljade might help tho if you keep freezing all the time. I'd start by learning her attack pattern on nightscream solo or soloing trio and try to apply that knowledge in speedrun. Also watch out for the ground with ice shards sticking out in speedrun.
no difference
max is +12
if they increase the max i will not have to work on my build anymore lol
If they allowed any Scorching above 12 to work it would be absolutely game breaking.
9 to 12 would be ideal, but other values don't make sense?
I reckon if they're nerfing scorching they'd probably lower the cap further
Sure would suck though
All they have to do really is make Scorching not work from Thunder Counter.
That too
Paragon 10 dps check is kinda high no? I have no problem surviving, but he is still half health(p2) when time is up
Maybe my skyfire build won't cut it
Do you try to break the orbs or defuse them?
i dont think is doable without an hydroflare base build
Hi anyone can help with Morus Isle hard? until finish?
if ur NA i can in like 10-15min
change to NA?
Yeah Skyfire falls behind cause where you'd have 3-4 Burns going off from defusing one attack chain, you'd only have 1-2 Burns worth of damage go off due to being overwritten.
According to paragon 10, it wouldn't
Some people are clearing it with the Standard Hydroflare build as well. But that would be a 25% damage increase from our current Scorching. The risk of the build would well surpass the pay off with that.
They must have scorching level 12 in their Standard Hydroflare build
does the standard hydroflare build need any special attributes to properly work?
kinda like how thunder scorch needs scorching
Not necessarily but Windfall + Health + Attack should scale your burns pretty well
Only Mod and Scorch builds need a Rare Attribute to work.
The others are standalone.
if there really is a nerf coming for thunderscorch
should i start focusing on my hydroflare?
There's no confirmation on it coming, but it won't hurt to have a HydroFlare build
sorry that was much longer than 10-15min
r u on NA?
Thanks will do
anyone wanna run thru nightscream morus wit me?
idk man, either I'm a nab or you can't quickly accumulate thunder and pass this level as fast as possible on feria shen, the only option is to switch nunchucks to fists and give rmb blue focus, but the second phase is too fast and you can't switch back quickly.
Strange, all the paragons I closed as fast as possible and so ez, and here I feel like a nab as much as possible (999+ attempts btw)
with copper ? gg
yes copper, i cant pass with solidification xd
Nice work tho
feels like the default hydroflare build works great on this paragon, without thunderpull and shit. I kill the first boss for 48 seconds, but the rest of is just so ass, sorry
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Feria's Counterstrike with Sap is crazy fast, so guess that could help
might try
U do have one thing wrong on potential or u using normal burn?
What u mean?
Try ur potential like
I tried and tested it, for me 2 points of hp, 6 pr is much better than the blue and green nods
Stage 10 I think it would do more tho
Maybe bro, need to test
It should cause ur scorching will do more after countering ur thunder pull with it
Well idk u using feria?
Maybe not with feria
Yes
Thunder accumulation is so bad
Even valda after defuse when u do lmb and gold focus, do much more thunder %
Temulch with earthshake or rmb focus jade, but not for feria (
Feria likes locking up in place or does for me when countering
So I just use normal burn on her
Yeah, i guess also need to try
Did it with Tianhai with normal burn
Died close to end tho died of my own burn sadly
Had a lag spike and my incineration went off the second I got hit should of just tried defusing instead of trying to heal tbh
Prob gonna try it with feria in a few tho see how see is with normal burn on 10
Nice one
Yea I actually choked 3 minutes with tarka had boss on its second stage at 15% hp left and died 2 times back to back and just left
Found out that when I left it was 3:48
But I had a god like start got boss to throw blues back to back like 4 times it was crazy
+3%/6% more HP at high attribute values ends up being around a 1% DPS increase. Whereas Honed Status gives some DMG Reduction alongside +10% DPS for non-Burn DMG, which even if you consider Burn to be 90% of your damage would at least be on-par with the HP.
So @fierce light the potential i showed would make u do more on thunder burn?
Yeah it's based on the dmg coefficient of the move. Feria has a somewhat low one on her charged attacks (4.74 on her Charged Vertical). Valda on the otherhand, has quite a bit higher (6.97 on Dragonslayer, 6.94 on Charged Horizontal).
Can get rid of the bottom-right on Blue for +3% HP, but keep the one on the bottom-left.
I would feel like the 3 hp wouldn’t be that good on 10 tho since has a lot more hp
Dam didn’t know
Thank u for the tip
Finally Yama 6 done, I sooo hated this level 😭
(mermaid ate me after dragon died >_>;;; )
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he wastes so much time either flying doing his blue shield shooting thing, and when hes spider, his moves are unprredictable, should i try circling the spider or something
For pre-Paragon, I'd say you probably just need to work on your Souljade build if time is an issue. He does fly a lot, but you can get a lot of Defuses off during a lot of his combos and his Focus Attacks usually follow after certain attacks.
i do pretty good, i either run outa time, or die from spiders long combo with tail swipes
what are the revive tokens called in showdown
Rebirth beads
what hero to use to complete fearsome shot 6k dmg 1 projectile?
valda
To reach 6k dmg what anima should i get ?
ur doing it in nirrittii u can get the range weapon ones, im not sure specifics, outaisde of nirritti theres a headshot souljade
it's a nitiri quest in nightscream, can't do it outside nitiri
Hero with a musket. Pick some anima rings that increase your ranged weapon dmg. Then in boss stage break his aegis shield and then do a headshot.
doom na anyone
any paragon 10 fov?
Found it
did you complete it ? I failed mine even though i only got money/yingyang/armor anima.
With scorching build, what's best to prioritize when recasting values? HP or ATK?
HP
any help with immovable - hard - guys ?
Yeah had special burn and awakening. Had a few unselected after i ran out of refresh
Only 12 upgrades one left. No idea how to track that and whst counts lol
lfg need help nightsdcream culmination
By the way, can something good come out of this?
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I notice something at lvl 1 & lvl 2 fatigue the drop rate is pretty bad, but when im at lvl 3 100% & lvl 4 75% fatigue my drop rate is 100% with 1 or more epic and 75% 1 gold drop from nitiri. Kinda weird when i use 150% fatigue when x2 elixer drop and i get double rare drop but 1 or 0 gold drop.
This is my 3rd consecutive run at hard nitiri with 2x gold drop at lvl 4 75%
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hello, I'm a beginner, I was just having fun and suddenly got this, is it good?
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2nd phase of yushan on speedrun randomly starts walking into the wall and never stops. Only started attacking again with tian ult, is this a known bug or wut
solid 30second to 1 min before i used ult to stop it
@granite marshsure come
the hydroflare combo makes the burning go away does that mean anima rings which makes burning last for longer is useless?
yup that's true
nope, more longer = more damage
ok so the hydroflare is just the instant burn damage then?
yes, you do all that damage over time in 1 shot
nice, does that mean hydroflare condensed flow is bad bcs you can only trigger it every 4 sec?
or is it ok since you can trigger hydro as fast anyway
yes condensed flow is soo bad


is it clever to discard anima rings which give you gold or will it take your gold? @river stratus
money ring like contract quest are very usefull, once you spend that money no point to keep that anima
so spend gold first at shop then discard?
or else i will lose it?
No
Gold you already have isn’t lost, I‘ve always discarded rolling in it and contract and still had all.
iirc you dont lose that money
ah ok nice thank you guys 
wtf
HydroFlare DMG = Burn DMG * Remaining Duration
Honestly wish they would remove that ring or reduce the cooldown on it. It's such a big nerf to anyone who's not Wuchen with Underwater Draco.
it always makes me sad when a discard useless ring scroll gives me that 😭
@fierce light thank you too for answer on the earlier questions. i read your guide on niritti. what is the best general category of anima rings to go for is it still elemental?
HydroFlare is pretty reliable, Element does work though if you can manage at least 3/4 of the Purple & Golds.
nice, that hydroflare is reliable. so you want most if not all purple or golds on the element to make it "good"
what are some good side categories of anima rings you like to bring in your build or do you mostly focus one category?
some currency rings is good i reckon. anything else that is "neat" so to speak to have?
maybe the counter collection or attack as some examples
as an thunder user i often find awakening collection useful, but i have no idea if it is effective.
what boss do you guys recommend for me on hard mode in nirritis. i got the choice between vinemire, mountain ghost with reduced hp or iron taifeng
mountain
thank you, say were you in dunking donuts chat earlier? your name reminds if of someone in the chat
shmellactimell, yea
i knew i recognized you 😄
crazy
how much does might high roller anima ring use is it worth it to use coins each hit?
Maybe for solo. Personally I hate it, I'd rather give teamamtes my extra coins
i am solo rn yeah
i have never used it so i can take it for collection
I think it goes up till 75% damage or so at level 3, still you're better off with other anima rings imo
But its "Hit" damage so I'm assuming melee
yeah okay thank you 
I just go for Element, Currency & HydroFlare generally. If I'm using a hero with a good Martial Skill I'll grab Yin Yang as well.
Hiii What is this chat? Can someone explain pls
so main element and curency and hydroflare on side kind of?
If you happen upon a lot of currency rings and are running a non-burn based build then it's okay.
what do you recommend i can choose next boss: omnious hell schorch, omnious bough with reduced aegis or matron?
It's for the PvE game mode for Naraka
ah ok
Hellscorch is easiest
Ahhh so just recommendations for souljade equips?
@granite marsh @fierce light thank you for answering guys 
Pretty much most of the chat is this
among answering some other ?s
@granite marsh one more thing XD which elixir for 5k coins do you recommend if you can only afford 1? attack one right?
yeah I use attack
The bosses you usually just choose whatever you're most comfortable fighting.
Anybody know what to do when the ball comes out in paragon 6? I’ve gotten it to low health a bunch of times but I can’t kill it for some reason
I believe only Thunder Scorch at high investment can kill it before Omnius Beast appears.
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Something is wrong with my stats. Copper doesn't work. I can't understand why?
Blazing Flame potential is active
Now I understand why the boss is one-shotting me
Yeah it's a very Glass Cannon build
I'm not sure what they intended Copper Ward to be used for before anyway since it reduced your effective hit points.
Poison build is so ass for high Yama
I get down to 1/3 rd health left on paragon 8
Even with the extra poison damage
anyone on na rn
Poison Build wants Attack and Increase DMG to Boss attributes. Poison Blast DMG is actually a very small portion of it's output.
anyone for high level doom or anything really
DOOM
ANY1 LFTEAM DOOM, ANYTHING
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Different region
You could matchmake in sea tbh. There's a few matches you can find
what's the best heroes and difficult to farm sense levels in nirriti ruins? im sense level 780 right now
You can farm up to max Sense in Normal Difficulty so that's fine.
awesome, ty
just noticed your name, i have been reading your guide haha
Haha yup
any1 for doom Na, or sea, or nething really
looking for anyone on na, eu, or sea forshowdown
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man..leveling sense takes so long. getting 1-2 lvls per run. that normal, or am i doing something wrong? 
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You're upgrading them all at once or 1 by 1?
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Yea that is normal 
They streamlined the leveling process so now you don't have to spread them out evenly manually.
yeah, that does make it more comfy
@fierce light Q: Second rare attribute cannot be recasted into another rare attribute?
Nope. Can only get a Rare Attribute from Recasting if it's the only Rare present during the result.
Just wanna check, if you get a rare attribute that you’re not aiming for, you just break it into a flux shard? Is there a way to recast rare to another rare? hehe
Yes but you have to break down 2 rare attribute to get a full flux jade crystal
Thank you
It can be recasted if it's the only rare attribute, i recasted my draco stride windfall into scorching today and got lucky.
Thank you
Ohhhhhh so if you recast a single rare attribute it gets recasted into another rare?
Just wanna make sure i dont make a mistake and turn my rare into a normal attribute hehe
Ohhh got it got it then i didnt have a waste, thank you so much!
ne down to play ruins, or doom, or whateves
How certain is it that we will have a new hero in the showdown (whoever it might be) when the new season starts?
well we've gotten a new addition with each season so almost certainly, unless they decide to just completely not care about showdown players
That is since they started with the seasons and bp
they also add new chapters each time, but for half seasons it's probably going to be only one new boss/chapter (like Korvine's)
All just speculation until we get the test server though
We surely need one more hero for the 12/12 hero at max level achi
What exactly happens at max fatigue? 0% rewards?
Yup, you can't get any more rewards that week
Plus they've been slapping tessa onto a bunch of chapter intro vids they gotta make her an actual playable character in pve
Maybe next season we get the Yoto-hime stories so her cultivation page doesn't have to tell us to stay tuned till she appears in showdown mode 😅
Just means you have a lot of rings among that category.
Each ring has a collection it belongs to. I'm not sure what the threshold is for it to start glowing, but it usually shows what you have the most in that category for. Especially if you're about to unlock the blessing for that collection.
There's also sub-categories. HydroFlare has things involving Burn, Soaked and HydroFlare.
Is scorching good with poison builds?
meh, better than nothing for sure but optimal stats for poison are: windfall, atk, dmg to boss and last defuse recovery or second windfall
i have good atk and dmg to boss stats on my poison storm, tryed to get windfall and i found scorch at lev 9, its pretty good, but still i try to swap into windfall
does forest peril-hard actually drop miasma drive? narakapedia thingy says it does, but the quest itself does not display it
also, how did y'all level up
i'm losing my sanity here at 770...trying to get 790 for journey's dawn
hard don't
nightscream does
enigma and nirriti spam
so the pedia lied 
i'll check those out. i'm losing years off my lifespan with each run of none shall pass or together we stand lmao
sec
u got scammed then lol
good thing i didnt grind it yet then
hmm enigma i have yet to unlock. i'll give niritti a try then
45 fatigue tho, dang
it's like 3 hours til fatigue reset anyway
oh, neat
Honestly I had better luck with the random gold souljade gifts you get on Doom and from fatigue compensation than with grinding the nightscream levels for the gold poison jades
im not even sure if i should be going poison tbh. clueless
That being said, I hope there's an event like Suffer no demon down the line when new souljades come out
1 week left til new season
poison is fun and imo begginer friendly
so eh
but ye
and pray for suffer no demon 2.0 for the new set of jades 
does season reset your sense lvl?
nope
but sense lv cap will increase
well im still at 770 so yknow
that's like you just played for like a day or something isn't it
yup
go with nirriti it's not sense dependent and farming is fun if you also start to farm/collect anima rings
it takes time but is fun
yeah, it's a real breath of fresh air. i suddenly deal damage to enemies
I really like that they added a mode like that
no clue what those are 
yeah showdown if u start fresh and got no one helping it gonna be rough at first
they're the cards that appear for you to choose in nirriti
you'll see in collections, when you collect sets you also get permanent buffs ( in nirriti only) depending on the type of ~~anime ~~ anima ring
i see, i see
AHHAHAA
btw whats the difference between counter and defuse, again?
is defuse the dodge thingy?
counter is counter, defuse is defuse, your question is like what's the difference between orange and apple
If you started today defuse is probably not unlocked for you
it unlocks when the hero reaches lv 12
my hero is at 20 since i played a bit ages ago
i just dont know what is what. that's my issue, really
ah then defuse is a skill that can defuse even common attacks as well as blue (except for vinemire he's special)
you charge the attack and cancel it with opposite mouse button
lv 12 hero unique move
off topic your wuchen is really pretty
aight, ty
is there a way to sell rings?
i remember being able to do that back then but i might be wrong
only if you have avarice
there will be a green thingy that appears and beeps, called nirriti codex
there's a secret anima ring called avarice that will allow you to choose to get dark tide coins instead of a ring
it appears in the codex at times, there are other secret rings as well that appear there
Yeah Nirriti's Ruins is a good way to burn your Fatigue quickly.
Still wish they'd make the higher difficulties consume more Fatigue though.
u can't defuse vinemire attacks?
His blue attacks specifically can only be parried not defused
hi, can i get some help with showdown? u.
Does Doom get harder these days, or is it just my imagination?
Some stages are harder yea
can anyone help me with this? preferably ppl with scorching cuz I wanna finish 8 bosses. ( I have +12 scorching too )
The 3rd doom has been so laggy every week this season it’s getting so bad with the lag
do we know if the progress gets wiped with the season or do we keep jades and levels?
other than potential points gets reset to 0, you keep everything else
aight ty
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Somewhat yes, last season I could solo 3rd doom room often, this season they feel harder (disclaimer: haven't tried in recent weeks). On the other hand, speedruns are more creative and fun this season imho, not just the same main boss +1 shadow boss nonsense every week.
If it works fck it lmao
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But crazy tho imagine it was max hp tho on that blue jade
Thats such a flex honestly
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Any news on new showdown season as current is going to end next week? New hero something like that
I read somewhere on douyin that we'd get some spoilers friday but I'm not 100% sure how reliable this info is
They're very last minute with their drip marketing
Is Takeda the Next Showdown Hero?
Saw this Takeda Item in showdown store !!!

That's been there for a while iirc
who is good with thunder? im trying yama paragon 4, any recommendations how to beat it?
Viper, Tarka, Kurumi, Wuchen, Yoto Hime (w/ Aerial Rend), Temulch (w/ Aerial Rend), and Valda to an extent.
i would hope Takeda doesnt come to showdown if that mf does thats it for me
which thunder
Lol why not?
Not sure how his ability would work against bosses though.
Takeda stole his chick few years back, still holding a grudge
We need Tessa
Finally got it with normal burn could be a bit faster tho
Not much faster but would def say a good 10 seconds maybe
standard thunder i guess haha
Good stuff
Glad normal burn can beat it at least, but still need Scorching I'd guess
ty ;D
Surprisingly boss barely threw any blues
I just didn’t miss a single defuse

i wanted anyelse 😭
If you have excess scorching, you could reroll it to a max value nonrare attribute and start rolling for rare on your lowest attribute
Or if you don't need scorching at all, you could do the same
Yeah you still have some low attributes, can definitely do that ^
that is a thing? Becasue i dotn wanna scorching
so i roll for exmple the pison away? and then try to repalce scroching with poison?
You get a random value stat if you reroll a rare. So you can keep rerolling and making sure to never accept anything but max or superclose-to-max value from a rare
then when you get it, you leave it alone, move to the lowest stat and keep rerolling till you get a rare.
but first i need to get rid of the attribute i want ^^
not necessarily, you reroll it to any stat with max value
and then fix it when the pity-choose-your-favorite stat roll comes up
or you can complicate it too, for example: you reroll your rare to whatever 100% then move to your lowest stat: inc damage to boss, you keep rolling and rolling
then you notice that you're 1 reroll away from the pity
but you want for example the attack% on your max stat then you use that last reroll to reroll your attack (hopefully it won't be a rare, but in case of this one it doesn't matter too much), accept that somethingelse stat and use the pity roll to fix your max-value whatever stat to attack
or you keep it safe, accept whatever you get instead of your lowest stat (since you keep it rerolling anyway) and move that one to your max value stat. If you are unlucky and keep getting wrong rare, then you can make your whole souljade a maxed out one
that sounds so complicated
That was just to optimize it
But generally just reroll it to a max attribute if you don't want it
waht is that nice reroll

Scorching again
is there a list waht max is for each attribute?
Press alt
there was one I remember seeing it here somewhere 👀
you can't see it during reroll alas
is that max?
yes!
You can point the mouse cursor on the SJ and press alt to see max attri
here is my list, can't find the one that was shared here
Thanks i will store that somewhere ^^
so now i reroll that attribute to something i want?
no
now you leave that stat alone until you get the 60th pity guaranteed reroll
you don1t want to reroll that stat to another scorching :p
ahahah xd okay will do
you could start rerolling the charged to aegis stat
that you won1t need anyway
and it's the lowest % compared to it's max value
that i ust did so that one attribute i want is open so i can pick it ^^
i reroll now on a spare jade
oh you can reroll on this jade
and have the chance of getting a nice rare on an unwanted slot
okay so now i am at in 0 i can choose attribute so now i reroll the rage one?
yes
Okay perfect it worked thanks a lot ^^ Learned a lot form you ^^
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Hi, i am looking for someone help carry me through 8 bosses of 1 enigma peak, the end of season is near but my build is not finished and sense is 1021 so i'm not sure if i could do it on time. I'm in SEA sv, hope that i could get help.
They rarely party random on enigma peak mine still at 6 bosses 😅 Tried queuing random party and its a mess since they don't know what they are doing.
Yeah, me too. I joined the season at the mid-end, pretty late and my build is just almost done for skyfire wuchen and feria shen. Been trying to get a good party but still no luck. That’s why i cam here for help
I could help ya, but im eu chill guy
help niriti ns
its just me or there is less lightnings falling on thunder counter?
i saw tessa defuse right?
yeah just 3, and there's no gap between them
no more 2x scorchings proc
guess thunder scorch is dead now?
yay Tessa! I hope the bp will have Wuchen + Tessa martial skill effect
Boss looks fun too
- When [Thunder Counter] and [Thunderproof] are worn at the same time, the Wray Time of the last two stages is slightly delayed, making it easier to Dodge heavy Weapons and then time(s) Counter.
Is it possible? 😳😳
my ping is like 300 woould be
That would be hard to achieve 8 bosses in one run. But thank you anyway, really appreciate your offer
I mean i can try though
nah, hydroflare still in potential tree
Then we can give it a try, but we will need one more for the party, do you have anyone who can help?
yeah i can ask my friend
Great, when can you get onlinee?
they nerfed it very hard in terms of dmg plus im not sure we can parry thunder 2 times to proc scorching
+- 1 hour
- The Buffs Change of the potential [Blazing Flame] is: "Losing All Health Bonus by Percentage, and every time you lose 0.5% of Health Bonus by Percentage, your [Burning] Damage will be increased by 0.3%."
- The Buffs Change of the potential [HydroFlare] is: "HydroFlare Damage increased by 20%".
Oh they removed the initial bonus from Blazing Flame.
It's still going to be the strongest Bossing build
This change just sounds like it is making it easier to double Scorching proc with Greatsword/Polesword.
Yeah lemme watch it
idk bro
works fine, idk
Hmm, might just be a slight buff to Thunder build
ult is kinda useless
If they didn't add Poisonous Assault to the Potential Tree, then they nerfed Poison.
is a defuse dash?
nah, But it uses up stamina
halo
If they nerf poison I'm back to square 1
are there any vids that showcase her f and ult
need to check douyin
yup i just checked there's a bunch of vids
saw one that shows she's also getting a martial skill effect in bp along with wuchen
i saw katana and fists in bp
yess the skins are pretty good
I thought Katana already got an effect?
katana and bp skins not effects are in bp
I'll have to see the whole potential tree to judge what builds were nerfed.
Another Katana skin? Weird
was there a katana skin in previous showdown bp's
No, but we already have that Scorch one
we got 3 dh skins when dh aren't even there in showdown
something change on poison potential
what are those final bubbles, I saw that flower shape appear in gameplay vids
now that they're actually adding them there isn't a skin for them in the 'bp 
though thankfully
and I am actually glad they added a katana skin, the one in showdown store is kinda weird
the fact it has no sheathe
im probably only gonna get this bp for wuchen skill effect
sad i missed the kurumba one
oh well
hi guys, what build and character would be good for climbing paragon? I'm still a newbie and quite lost with all the builds and element
180 days... I hope this isn't true, otherwise we could go crazy if they leave us again for six months with only one new hero and boss and potential and stuff.
same as 1.5
it was the worst season ever.
I'm not sure how that translates, but if that's an extra stack of Toxified, then Poison won't be nerfed, but buffed.
Even by the end of 3 months you get tired of the sameness, let alone x2 time limit
Yeah that seems to be their update schedule. 0.5 patches are longer and add less content
not again damn
but it makes sense
for a new full number season they add 3 separate levels in story mode
so that would take more time
at least they added tessa now, was gonna suck waiting for her for 6 months (and not even knowing if she's next)
although from the vids I've seen her ult is kinda...eeh
Tessa should have been in the current season as far as I'm concerned. There was too much talk about it. But we got a badass in form of Yoto, who is character from collaboration and doesn't fit into this world.
It increases damage while the ult is in effect
Yeah it's really weird they added her for a non-filler patch
But add Tessa during a filler patch
wasn't wuchen added during a filler patch too
i guess they add the more popular heroes during filler patches because the season lasts longer, but who knows
do we know by how much %?
It says somewhere, can't remember how much.
That's a pretty good ultimate then
Since Hero buffs generally are treated as an extra multiplier.
imagine judging an ult is good or bad when you know nothing about it but the visual
You can check it out right now on the CN test server if you have access.


I can do a rough translation, It basically buffs poison blast damage by 40% and then summons a " Blossoming Lotus spirit" which does poison damage affected by the poison damage modifier. Sounds good ig?
The ice one has the exact same verbage just for frost
thx for transaltion
Can't summon mommy Yushan anymore 
but we can summon lotus flowers

Hmm, I wonder if that's separate from Toxin Blast or they just gave it an official name.

