👾┃showdown

[untold marsh]

sounds rough but don't worry if you start farming now you can still get a bootleg one by the end of season

[woeful monolith]

Nope I have a Hydroflare build as well, I just refused to use this build from the beginning because I thought for sure they would Nerf it a little bit to make things somewhat fair and also its just a cheesy way to play the game in my opinion.

[untold marsh]

then let me tell you so you understand it very well

even if thunder scorch didn't exist

you wouldn't see the light of top 10 with hydroflare

i can give you 20 IDs with hydroflare builds that have +6k health

[woeful monolith]

Bro literally taking it personal that I make a post with opinions about the build....

[untold marsh]

no im actually not

you're the one pinging me

and crying every week about thunder scorch

[woeful monolith]

Responded to your video you posted showing off your thirty second Paragon 5 ...

[untold marsh]

so you'll do the same to darkzero posting his ?

you're one sick fella

[woeful monolith]

I did last week, it doesnt matter who it is. Dark has answered endless questions for me about this game but at the end of the day its just my opinion on things. He doesn't take it personal.

[untold marsh]

but you do take it personally

you're even calling it "dumbass build"

[woeful monolith]

....

Taking it personal would be if I made a comment about you using the build, not discussing the build itself.

[fierce light]

When they didn't patch it after 2 patches, I just went ahead and converted my Hydroflare build into it.

[woeful monolith]

If you can't be subjective for a second and realize the final Yama level is being done in 30 seconds while everyone else is atleast 2-4 times longer and how thats a problem....

[woeful monolith]

I dont knock you for it, he doesn't understand is I'm speaking on the build itself needing to be nerfed and not speaking on whoever is using it.

[fierce light]

Yeah I already left my feedback on it too: https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1289794313772859465

[untold marsh]

and you don't understand that this build existing or not wouldn't change anything

[woeful monolith]

Thank you for linking that. I agree that could work and be more friendly overall without the grindy RNG aspect of it.

[untold marsh]

you got the same 2400 ftg as everyone else go farm it instead of trying to prove a point that doesn;t exist

[woeful monolith]

Whatever you say man.

[untold marsh]

see this is why your point makes absolutely no sense, it would if only some people could have this build but absolutely nobody is stopping you from making it

you're just salty you wasted everything on a cheap build

[woeful monolith]

Whats crazy is in that post Dark is actually being realistic about it and stating something similar that I am saying even though he uses the build. It called an opinion bud thats why this conversation is going the way its going is your taking it personal.
I have 5300 HP Hydroflare build with 9 Scorching , I didn't waste anything. I also have the 100 Mod Poison build with 35% dmg to boss n 365 atk. Regardless I could make thunder scorching build probably in a week or 2 but your missing the point of its obviously to strong and if you can't be subjective about it than it is what it is.

[untold marsh]

i'm not contesting the efficiency of thunderscroch, the investment is so high to make it work it wouldn't make sense if it wasn't as efficient as it is, what i'm saying is that you're blindly hating on it for no valid reason, if you can get it in 2 weeks why are you not ? give me a single reason why you wouldn't make it. Because someone like you obviously cares about the leaderboard enough to cry about it weekly. You saying it's an easy dumbass build proves that you're biased and know nothing of it. If you can't see it then that's your problem go open a ticket so they can remove it and you can finally make it to the leaderboards. have a good day

[sullen pawn]

while i do think scorching procs from thunder counter shouldnt be a thing, tianhai bell counter doesnt proc it, i dont get complaining about it

its just meta

if you dont do meta obviously you get left behind on leaderboards

but paragon 5 you can get similar times with normal hydroflare with scorching

sub 1min maybe not but close to it for sure possible

[woeful monolith]

I simply was talking about Thunderscorching being to strong, you keep taking it like I was coming at you. Im not blindly hating on it, Its obviously 2-4 times stronger than any other build at the very least.
I already told you why I didn't want to run the build, scroll up if you cant remember. Having opinions and discussing things is how you figure shit out...getting upset and emotional is not.

[woeful monolith]

So your saying since Tianhais bell doesnt proc it , we shouldn't be complaining about it ....Gotcha.
But you also agree Thunder Counter shouldn't proc it....

[fierce light]

Thunder Scorch Mod is probably another tier level of broken atm

[untold marsh]

upset and emotional when you're the one crying every week ?

maaan you shouldn't go more than 2 days without your meds.

[woeful monolith]

Alright bud have a good day.

[untold marsh]

you too "bud"

[woeful monolith]

Crying and having an opinion in the Showdown discussion channel are very different. Which concerns me that you can't tell the two apart.

[untold marsh]

glad you can tell you're crying too

your opinion is invalid since you don't own the build and don't know the process behind it

[vivid merlin]

Can we just have a healthy conversation in here please..

[drifting lance]

🎉 | noob_gamingph leveled up!

[woeful monolith]

Whatever you say big guy.

[somber wedge]

Heat is everywhere!

[river canopy]

any advantage of using Defuse Flaming Blade over Cloudscorch?

[fierce light]

Defuse • Flaming Blade: deals 1150% of your Attack over 5 seconds.
Cloudscorch: deals 180% of your Attack over 12 seconds.

[timid stirrup]

wtf!?!? y is/would that b a thing? when would it actually b used?

[fierce light]

Anywhere.

Viper's ability hits crazy hard, combine that with Thunder Scorch and you can proc it pretty fast.

[timid stirrup]

like nothing lives long enuf for mod 2 even work effectively

[fierce light]

You still have to build up Thundershock

It just makes it even quicker, for more DPS

Here's it in action:

[timid stirrup]

i remember watching that. didnt realize it had mod in it

[hushed meadow]

Well look who it is LMAO

SAAAHHHHH DUDE 😂

[fierce light]

Huh lol?

[hushed meadow]

I didn't realize you chatted here

I honestly don't lol

Hence why the surprise is there

[fierce light]

Oh i gotcha, yeah this is the main place I chat

[somber talon]

whats the build that feels the best for kurumi? ive been looking at lists but want one that feels good for trios and supporting the team

[hidden creek]

there isn't one

[fierce light]

You don't really build for Support really, since Offense > everything else right now. At the most you'd go for [Moderation] to get more Skills off. She doesn't really use [Moderation] builds the way they're intended though since her Skill doesn't do damage.

All the currently used builds are on the site in the pins, but also can check in-game under Recommended → Player Favorites.

[hidden creek]

you could support your team with any build, it's just playstyle and team setup

and yeah dmg > everything

[somber talon]

i figured, thank you! @hidden creek @fierce light

[untold marsh]

100% moderation + yushan shadow

you can spam her f as long as yushan hits

[spice canyon]

Agree

[round glacier]

Kurumi right now is good with poison cyan fang

Spamming that shit makes her hard to kill lol

[untold marsh]

if you're going for an offensive build

[round glacier]

Put moderation on it and you can spamm the kill to keep your teammates alive and give them a damage boost if im correct

Its how i 2 manned a speed run after 1 person died and dipped lol

Not saying its top 3 worthy though lol

Besides that a thunder counter sorch build should be fine though but expensive as fk to build

More forgiven as you can heal yourself

[vivid merlin]

go full poison + cyan fang (with at least 50% moderation), you can then spam normal attacks and have your ult in no time. That build also kill mobs quickly.

[timid stirrup]

does the training room take ur jade stats into account? like if it has rare stats on it?

[mint surge]

No

[timid stirrup]

Boooo

[river canopy]

interesting ... is this documented anywhere? The ingame description only says melee attacks will "burn" or "set aflame" ...

[fierce light]

Nope, just from testing.

[misty bridge]

Has somebody made a tier list of builds?

[drifting lance]

🎉 | R̶a̶z̶i̶e̶l̶★S̶c̶h̶i̶c̶k̶s̶a̶l̶ leveled up!

[fierce light]

Tier List is pretty much the in-game leaderboard.

Bossing

1. Thunder Scorch Mod
2. Thunder Scorch
3. Standard Hydroflare
4. Skyfire Storm
5. Poison Mod

Mobbing

1. Poison Mod
2. Standard Thunder
3. Ice Mod
4. Poison Storm | Poison Fang
5. Standard Poison

[timid stirrup]

i was just gonna say i have never seen a skyfire mod build

sounds intense

[misty bridge]

Thunder scorch mod for which characters?

[fierce light]

Viper mainly uses mod builds

[misty bridge]

Anyone else? besides viper

[fierce light]

Tarka

[misty bridge]

Ok thanks you zero

One last thing, here why defuse flaming blade instead of raging flame? is because of the spam of flaming?

Or why is it different

[spice canyon]

if you defuse alot and not attack very often, flaming blade can be a choice
both are good in their own way

[misty bridge]

So if you attack more is better raging?

[spice canyon]

yes, also if you proc raging it slightly increase the elemental accumulation

[misty bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/noice-nice-click-gif-8843762

[fierce light]

Defuse • Raging Flame: on activation, deals a burst of non-Burn damage around you for 320% of your Attack. The burst applies a Burn to enemies hit, dealing 1300% of your Attack over 5 seconds.

Defuse • Flaming Blade is better in most situations, despite it being a lower rarity because it activates on every Defuse, while on average it takes 2-3 Defuses to activate Defuse • Raging Flame. The only case where it would be better than Defuse • Flaming Blade is if you're only Defusing while it's fully charged which can take some time if you're not using a Stormstride Sword build.

[misty bridge]

So if I manage to build raging faster is worth it to take it?

Or still better flaming than raging

[fierce light]

If you're activating it at least once every 1.4 Defuses, then it's better.

[misty bridge]

Ty

[fervent imp]

is it possible to find people here or should i give up?

[hearty rivet]

I'd try around after reset-time if I were you.

[fervent imp]

yeahhhh sounds like a good idea i'd say

[hearty rivet]

In general, your best chance of finding pug quickly for doom is on Wednesday, shortly after reset.

[fierce light]

Yeah a lot of people rush and get their weekly quests done

[round glacier]

Me included lol

[hushed meadow]

That makes a loooot of sense

I used to think Hydroflare builds weren't that nice so I ended up not even using one since I invested in full elemental builds for DPS and did a shit ton of defusing

I missing a lot of my rare attributes though. I need them so badly

[fierce light]

Elemental Bursts do 406% of your Attack (Successive Ice Blast dealing 685%) for reference. So one Defuse is already dealing 2-3 times the base damage just from Flaming Blade.

[warped falcon]

Just done my fastest time in paragon with kurumi 🫣🤭😓

[round glacier]

Me in the #4 spot 😿

What build did you use?

[warped falcon]

Thunder scorching :>

[round glacier]

Awesome

[fierce light]

Oh I didn't realize you were Kepa

[fierce light]

Playstation doesn't have many Thunder Scorch users either, interesting.

[warped falcon]

Yep i think im the only one with a stacked thunder scorching build. Most of the top players are running hydro flare

[untold marsh]

i'm not )

i just play on his account since he has 8 windfalls on his thunder scorch

[fierce light]

Oh gotcha

[surreal saffron]

so whats the strat for enigma peak? to get all 8

[fierce light]

1. One person clears mobs primarily while the other 2 fight the bosses.

• The mob clearer aims to push the bar between 42% - 74% before the boss is killed.

2. Wuchen and Viper Ning are recommended for clearing mobs due to their natural AoE.
3. Burn-based Builds are recommended for fighting bosses due to their higher DPS output.
4. Save the buffs the bosses drop till the next boss spawns.

[ebon parrot]

whats the fastest way to level up jades

like i have a ton of 1010 blues

so far im just enchancing 4 jades

so they get to 1016 with like barely any xp

and then repeating that process

was wondering if there was a faster way

[timid stirrup]

unfortunately thats the only way 2 lvl jades.

[ebon parrot]

nuuuuu

[signal kite]

work in progress

[timid stirrup]

I saw 50% mod n was like why all the health not realizing there's 12 scorching as well

[fierce light]

For anyone curious, this is how all the different main damage sources compare to each other:

• The red bar indicates their base coefficient, which is the amount of Attack it starts scaling with before DMG multipliers.
• The blue bar indicates the max coefficient you can reach from DMG Multipliers, assuming you go for 2 [Windfalls], Attack and their main DMG Multiplier.

• Burn (non-Scorching): x12 [Windfall], x6 Attack, x6 Health
• Burn (Scorching): x8 [Windfall], x6 Attack, x6 Health
• Element: x12 [Windfall], x6 Attack, x6 Elemental DMG
• Toxin Blast: x12 [Windfall], x6 Attack, x6 Increase DMG to Boss

[thorn narwhal]

would it be more optimal to shove all [4xscorchs into 1 jade] and [4xmods into 2nd] and have [2xwindfall, atck,hp into other 4]?

[empty rampart]

seems a good balance lol, that is y game becomes more and more boring

[fierce light]

Not really, although it's more convenient to have them on their core Souljades (like Moderation on Arcane Thunder). For example on Burn builds, each [Windfall] = +2% Attack & +7.5% Health. It would be good if Windfalls multiplied off each other though.

Yeah the powercreep was a bit intense with Scorching.

[true igloo]

whats you Opinon on Kurumi in Shodown i ask for a friend 😄

[fierce light]

She's okay. Her Aegis-Break does decent dps combined with Aegis-Break Rage, but her low overall coefficients make her slower than most at activating elements.

[true igloo]

thanki ❤️

[restive wraith]

since the second one have much better % it is better for me to go for it right?

recast give me barely any % so I'm so desparate

[spice canyon]

yeah I would pick second too

[fierce light]

Yeah the second one.
Right: 60% / 75% / 100%
vs
Left: 60% / 40% / 50% / 40%
Really good ratios.

[restive wraith]

thank you teacher

[hazy bloom]

Anyone on and willing to help me with Immoveable nightscream?

[fervent sequoia]

still need help?

[hazy bloom]

Yes please

[hearty rivet]

Huh somehow managed to complete solo nightscream nirriti with Kurumi without using a single healing/armor potion 👀 I wonder how much healing the yinyang abilities do 🧐 (Was aiming for the 12 yinyang rings challenge - which also was successful, tysm rngods 😔 )

[supple crown]

How does vipers moderation work? I got 100 mod but on thunder build and didnt understand when does the skill cd reset. Does it reset from divine thunder?

[stray wharf]

Anay one have Kurumi bullied?

[hearty rivet]

Yeah iirc when you zap an enemy with your divine thunder (not thunderbolt). For poison build it happens when the huge puddle appears under an enemy

[supple crown]

But I seen videos people using f constantly without cd in previous season. Its not easy to proc divine thunder etc. did something changed this season?

[hearty rivet]

Didn't they use it with an ice build last season?

[supple crown]

Yea I seen mostly in ice builds but isn't ice blast hard to proc as well?

[hearty rivet]

I don't think so. I had only ~70-75% mod last season on my viper ice build but my F skill was almost always ready, when I was mobbing

and against bosses there was the ~4 sec cooldown when boss was immune to elemental attack

[timid stirrup]

its used with poison or ice not thunder

[supple crown]

I know but aren't they all proc based on damage. There shouldn't be much difference if that's the case

[timid stirrup]

from what ive seen divine thunder falls on the player whereas ice blast and toxin blast falls on the enemy

i could b wrong tho

apparently there is supposed to be a divine thunder accumulation on the enemy also

i've neveer seen it tho

[supple crown]

They all fall on enemy when you deal damage. They can be also fall on player based on enemy boss damage or your own jades. The ones using thunder counter makes it fall on yourself on purpose also works on enemies thunder buildup on player.

But all damage player do also fills enemy bar based on that element

regardless

[timid stirrup]

then i have no idea what im talking about n u can disregard my statements lol

i honestly thought i knew something that i could help with lol

<<< noob

lol

[supple crown]

No worries
But the thing about constant buildup for f still something I didnt understand for mod viper if it has to proc that elements attack type

[round glacier]

Poison jades with cyan poison wielding and 6th is personal preference but defuse solidification is best option. Basicially just spamm R1 lol . Builds are in the pins

[supple crown]

If thats the case you cant use it on bosses constantly

Can someone post a mod viper video for solo bosses I wanted to check something 😄

[fierce light]

Thunder builds don't have anything to boost their accumulation rate like Ice & Poison builds (aside from on Martial Skills with Flame-Thunder Chant). Ice has the best accumulation rate (x2.175) with Tundra Might and Frost Douse. Poison is 2nd with Hydro's Bound (x1.7).

[supple crown]

Ah its about accumulation then
But on bosses you still cant use it constantly right for solo ?

What is the thunders acc rate bdw?

[fierce light]

Damage from Thunder Counter isn't considered an Elemental Burst so it doesn't proc [Moderation]. Golden Bolt Silhouette can do a lot of accumulation but it tends to summon when Divine Thunder is on cooldown against bosses.

[fierce light]

Just has a x1 multiplier. Attacks from Souljades that have -Wielding in their name have bonus accumulation though (usually around 140% of the expected value).

[supple crown]

Thunder counter still makes enemy accumulation right ? with your own accumulation beside it

[fierce light]

For Ice and Poison builds, Viper's ability is enough to proc on small mobs, but for Thunder it requires the Arcane Thunder to hit as well.

[fierce light]

Yeah, about 2 charged attacks worth. The amount is based on the base coefficient of an attack.

[supple crown]

Ah ok so its not completely useless at least... Can be sometimes proc to reset the skill then

better than nothing

[fierce light]

It's iffy. Does about 33% of the accumulation needed on bosses/mobs with Astral Aegis.

[supple crown]

Whitout Tundra Might and Frost Douse accumulation is similar to thunder right? Changing element will not help much for only considering elements?

[fierce light]

Yeah you need those two specific things to boost it

And it only applies to Ice

[restive wraith]

will canon be doable for this challenge? I never used range build after that time when I annoyed someone with it

(thinking about musket)

[frail geode]

I cant put an image (i dont know why..) but i have 343.1% on rage recovery speed bonus on my kurumi with 502 counter triggers recovery but there isnt an specific build

[frail geode]

do you need help?

[somber wedge]

It possible but not recommend. Musket is the easiest

[restive wraith]

yea.... I just want to complete everything

I haven't reached the last point too, 1100 I think

[somber wedge]

Just go musket with the boost after 5 shot anima to boss head no shield

[restive wraith]

thanks for the instruction brother

[somber wedge]

It just need like 2-3 anima for musket to complete that, while other range weapon going to require alot of range anima which will burden the team dps

[restive wraith]

I will ask my friends to join just in case haha

[surreal saffron]

maybe? would be kinda hard to headshot a boss with a cannon tho.
The way I did it was, 12/12 ranged boss, including 3rd tier of ranged dmg and + x% ranged dmg after repair.
Shoot once at the shop stage, do boss, and immediately repair when you break aegis(because is you'll have 12/12, its gonna be like having repair roll) and headshot the boss

If you have aurete(the thunder guy), you can shoot the jetpack/backpiece he has

[restive wraith]

I don't have that guy but it do sound interesting

[somber wedge]

Yeah other weapon tiring

While musket can go up to 30k+

[surreal saffron]

aureate is not a hero, its the thunder boss, the one with the hammer

[restive wraith]

imma sneak in with musket and 4 dmg ranged ring and then use my sword :c

[restive wraith]

ahhh I remember, ic ic

I was learning bosses moveset but he is far on the list

[somber wedge]

Mostly i consider it the easiest boss (Thunderguy)

[surreal saffron]

^

[somber wedge]

Is it just me that the jade drop getting worse and worse

[fathom bobcat]

Classic.

Less than 5 recasts from one Nirriti/Enigma it's... in game, where 500 recasts is minimal for upgrade build to good stats. Maybe, for not all jades in build.

I realise system is designed for CN, but it's still too stuffy unless you're farming like hell every week all season.

[fervent imp]

oh i already got helped! but thanks for suggesting <З

[somber wedge]

Yeah 2400/2400 from the first day after each week reset. All my friend are literally no life

[fathom bobcat]

I saw her with staff yesterday. I suspect the bots' weapons are randomized here.

[short meadow]

Oh damn

[fathom bobcat]

If you only play showdown it might not be such global issue, but I have a lot of interests outside of PvE as well.

[sweet vale]

Fastest way to boost sense level?

[copper summit]

The only week I used up all my fatigue was no life no demon event, the rest is just tediously slow comparatively to farm that much

[fierce light]

You can probably get away with not farming at 75% rewards. Although the buff to the crystal drop rate still seems good.

[fierce light]

• Nirriti's Ruins: 700 - 820 Sense
• Enigma Domain (first 3 bosses): 820 - 950
• Enigma Domain (all bosses): 950+ [requires a decent build]

[cyan grove]

Do you guys have any tips to win Paragon 2 and 3?

[sweet vale]

@fierce light i die to hard mode ruins boss. Do i have to keep farmimg normal mode to build collection?

[fierce light]

Yeah they all drop up to max level

[sweet vale]

Also matchmaking dead. Cant find team in trio

they make it super tedious. My enigma mode us locked as havnt done chapter on hard

Leveling up pain

[fierce light]

Yeah people mostly make premades aside from when Weeklies reset and when we have limited time modes.

[cyan grove]

help

[fierce light]

Create a HydroFlare or Skyfire build so you can do a lot of damage from defusing and also heal with some Defuse triggers Recovery.

[round glacier]

Good ole skyfire from last season it is then lol

[cyan grove]

I feel like my hydroflare build is missing something

I don't do much damages with it

[fierce light]

You have Blazing Flame + Water and Fire Raged in your potential?

[cyan grove]

Where are there? I'll check rn

ok nvm, I only have Blazing Flame as of rn

I'll need to level up a bit more to get Water and Fire, do you have any tips to level up fast?

[fierce light]

Water and Fire Raged is pretty important too cause it's a multiplier

[cyan grove]

I'll get it and try again with it

[flat pier]

@fierce light sama!!

remember the potential you did for playing with ember while the ground burn omen is in effect?

the one where you used the armored guard?

can you share it again please? i think it will be very useful for paragon 5

also is there tips for paragon 5 please? i am using standard hydroflare but strugging

[fierce light]

Oh cause of the pounce attack?

It's just Blazing Flame + Armor Guard. Can branch into the heal on defuse and attack with the extra points

[timid stirrup]

kill the 2 mobs b4 the boss

dont give them a chance to punce and u will b able to survive

[fierce light]

As long as you stay close enough to the hammer ents, they won't pounce

[timid stirrup]

also dont let the miasma spirits explode

I killed the hammer ents b4 the boss was 50%

[ebon parrot]

Love the hammers when whey focus

Free defuses

🤩

O yea btw is it true that in enigma if u charge up an attack in front of a group of mobs, they’ll start their aggro on u?

[low eagle]

I'm already 1020+ sense level, but I want to start rolling my stats to proper ones. What is the best way to farm Souljade Fragment/Legendary Souljades?

[cyan grove]

Also, is there a way to loot 1010+ jades?

I'm at around 1024 and it's pretty long to reach 1030 with 1010 jades only

[fierce light]

Enigma for Souljade Fragments, Nirriti's Ruins for Crystals.

[fierce light]

No, 1010 is the global max drop level. It'll show at the bottom left of the mission select.

[low eagle]

Follow-up question: do you know the best way to get Shrouded Jade (for extra slot)?

it seems like Nirriti gave it to me at least once, but not sure if it was a one time rewards, also I don't know the optimal farming path

[fierce light]

It's just a really rare drop from any mission. Hard to tell if any have a better drop rate for it, but I've gotten it from every mission type

[tribal yoke]

Queued for 17mins and can't even get in

[river canopy]

in any case, I find droprate for purple-yellow jades / fragments quite low. Have 700 carved crystals but never enough fragments to properly update my jades 😦

[fierce light]

Yeah they're definetly low, the buff to the crystal drop rate made it more apparent.

[timid stirrup]

now i have 75%

[true igloo]

Question can i get Skyfire only form the chapter 5 Misson ?

[river canopy]

I think it can also drop in Nirriti Nightscream/Legend

[true igloo]

good to know then ❤️

[timid stirrup]

anybody know what this is?

[hearty rivet]

At 700-ish fatigue. This is going to be one of those weeks 😩

[heavy gulch]

I also saw that, but then I couldn't buy it, it was unavailable. What the hell?

[timid stirrup]

i wonder what it is

[short meadow]

Where did u find this

[fathom bobcat]

It's for CN server event and not for showdown.

[quick magnet]

bug and it was removed.

[fervent imp]

trying to farm for soul jades in nirriti ruins, does it give more rewards if i'll play trio more (alone) or should i just stick with the solo one?

[heavy gulch]

It was in the store

[drifting lance]

🎉 | GirlfromRio leveled up!
ℹ | Level up messages can be disabled for the guild with owo level disabletext

[heavy gulch]

That's what I thought.

[tribal yoke]

Is enhancing the only way to increase the sense level?

[thorn narwhal]

only if u hit the max global lvl 1010 below that u get 2 lvls+ every mission u done

[tribal yoke]

So can I spam the low level stages (normal) and still get +2?

[thorn narwhal]

no morus isle stages have a max lvl each, but normal nirrits doesn't

[timid stirrup]

is enigma with gold key still viable place to farm jade fragments when at 75% drop?

[fierce light]

I would only recommend gold keys at 150%. Kinda a waste otherwise

[timid stirrup]

getting fragments from nirriti at 75% just seems so slow

with only getting 1-4 jades sometimes even 0

[fierce light]

Yeah 75% is pain in general

[hearty rivet]

It's slow at 100% too when you get only 1-2 purple sjs per run :/

[timid stirrup]

yeah its rough out there in these nirriti streets

[cyan grove]

Is nirriti the fastest way to get gold/purple jades?

[sharp ember]

Enigma Domain tends to be faster overall for jades. Especially when you use a gold key and elixir at 150% fatigue.

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Leisurefiend leveled up!

[fierce light]

Nirriti is the best for Crystals

[untold marsh]

lucky .28

[fierce light]

Jeez that was lucky. Able to parry as soon as you activated each Scorching

[untold marsh]

yeah

this is still not enough to match CN lol

.25

[fierce light]

Could've just dodged near the last Spawn Ent to save another second or two.

[untold marsh]

yeah you're right, i keep them alive to charge my thunder back faster but the first Spawn Ent died before my f hit him

should have cleared the blue one with draco and went for an f on the second and boss ))

[nocturne jacinth]

anyone know how to get Frozen BlasT?

[old junco]

Hello
i am missing gambit secret if anyone know plz tell me >~<

[timid stirrup]

Random Anima from green scroll.

Might need currency anima 2 force it out but unconfirmed. It's just all rng

[sick fox]

Why don't we have Plants vs. Zombies?

[fierce light]

Guess the licensing fell behind

[old jetty]

Hello. I'm new to showdown. Is there any recommended characters to level 1st and play. Or does it not matter. Thanks

[restive wraith]

is this totally rng? I can't find "Divine Army from the Sky"

[hidden creek]

.

[restive wraith]

shit

thank you tabbie

that look like I will never have it

[hidden creek]

iirc they adjusted it so the lost curse only appear on nirriti nightscream and legend

not sure though

[river stratus]

maybe wuchen or kurumi

[short meadow]

matari *

[fierce light]

Wuchen, Kurumi and Viper are good 1st picks. They all have good Ultimates, Abilities and AoE in their base kit to deal with most situations.

[old jetty]

Thank you!

[timid stirrup]

feria might also b a good choice as shes easy 2 learn in showdown

[bold ice]

Any reasonable tips to get through paragon 4 with ice viper or am I doomed?

Git gud/get thunderscorch are also viable tips

[fathom bobcat]

Learn boss patterns and suffer. Hydroflare (with scorchings) and thunder scorch feel good in Yama, everything else is so-so.

I spent 2 hours retrying and went through on Viper on poison mod. It was hard and inefficient.
On ice mod it's bit easier to play due to lightened defusion, but it's bad on damage, although it's still playable. I've seen at least one player who got through 4 paragon on ice mod.

[fierce light]

I wouldn't really recommend Ice Viper for bossing atm anyway. Paragon 4 has Death Spores as well, so you can use that for more procs on Infectious Touch for more Toxin Blasts on a Poison build. So I'd recommend either a Hydroflare build or Poison build to do it. Thunder technically could work, but there's not much room to get a full Thunder Counter off safely, so you're going to have to gimp your DPS often.

[bold ice]

Back to farming then I guess

[fathom bobcat]

Well, ice mod, if it's already in good version, is still suitable for the "somehow pass" level.
But yeah, damage is too low and it takes long time to kill. Personally, I used it for Paragon 1 and 3.

[fierce light]

This the highest I could find that used an Ice build. Granted it's not Ice Mod, but still the average time between Ice Blasts is around 6s vs a boss, and Toxin Blasts take around 8-10s for more than double the damage.

[fierce light]

Niritti's Ruins?

[fierce light]

Yeah

[fathom bobcat]

What's server?

On EU there is Ilithiel who consistently passes all Paragons on Ice mod and someone else.

[fathom bobcat]

Sometimes without light defusion it doesn't work at all for me, like it did with Matron Yushan - 90% defusion counts as shift - very flavourful, very satisfying.
I don't have any scorch builds and I don't want to grind like hell for something that might be pumpkin in months.

[broken laurel]

what would be best character to play showdown ? or most fun one

[fathom bobcat]

Not Temulch, Matari, Valda, Yoto.

[fierce light]

Poison Build doesn't require much investment to be good. Hydroflare is also going to be strong even without the potential.

Would be nice though if they did give Poison build a Tundra Might equivalent.

[fathom bobcat]

It would be nice if they made elemental damage relevant.

Again, I have +-good poison mod for Viper. And I know how effective Wuchen can be just on right poison jades with bad stats. But sometimes I can't counter bosses in paragon due to defusion not registering and I'm forced to switch to ice, where there is potential to fix that.

About classic hydroflare - I didn't have it in season 1.5. Yes, I have all necessary jades, but, trivially put necessary non-rare effects on them (even without improving them) will take about 200 rolls. I'm afraid to even think about the rest.
Maybe with Copper Ward and bad stats I'll be able to do minimal decent damage, but I'm not good enough for it.

[granite marsh]

How big is the dps increase per +3 scorching?

[fierce light]

Oh, you're talking about the node that makes Defusing easier. Not sure how much of an effect it really has tbh.

[fathom bobcat]

If you don't have particularly good ping and fps, it's noticeable.

[fierce light]

If Scorching +3 = 100%, then

• Scorching +6 = 200%
• Scorching +9 = 300%
• Scorching +12 = 400%

If Scorching +12 = 100%, then

• Scorching +9 = 75%
• Scorching +6 = 50%
• Scorching +3 = 25%

[fathom bobcat]

At least on heroes where defusion is combined with movement (disgusting).

[granite marsh]

is it possible to get scorching on every jade as well? Or is 2 other rare traits a better investment?

[fierce light]

Ah I gotcha.

[fierce light]

It only stacks to +12, so you need it on at most 4 different Souljades. Beyond that it's not good to go beyond 2 rare attributes on a single Souljade either since you want to save room for Attack + Main DMG Bonus

[granite marsh]

Oh I just learned I can get 2 rare attributes on a single souljade lmao, I usually just move on to the next the moment I find one. Thanks i'll slowly build towards a +12 when I get the materials again the grind hurts

[fierce light]

1st rare is relatively cheap since 2nd rare requires 2 Flux Jade Shards (= two rare attributes on a decomposed Souljade).

[fierce light]

New Spear System on Buried Giant:

[round glacier]

Fk that giant

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Tru11 [EU] leveled up!

[round glacier]

Hate him with a passion

[fierce light]

He was hitting surprisingly hard. 3 shots with his projectiles kills at full health & armor.

[hearty rivet]

It's a trap! Spear is grabbable even after astral aegis is broken and you can yeet yourself to death with it if you don't pay attention like me. 😓

[round glacier]

🤣🤣🤣

[amber terrace]

wow

speedrun this week too funny

and ez for scorching player

[cyan grove]

I'm struggling to know which jades I should sacrifice or which ones I should keep in my vault

do you guys have tips?

[fierce light]

Pretty much all the Souljades that increase your damage or deal damage in some way I'd say keep.

[peak finch]

Hi guys, should i keep both or sacrifice one? and Which one you think i should keep?

[timid stirrup]

i would keep the double moderation

[mint surge]

Keep the double moderation

Best options for arcane thunder

[timid stirrup]

change ice blast into increase dmg to boss or poison blast

i tried making a double moderation on my arcane thunder ended up with mod/wf

tried for double moderation on incineration ended up with mod/scorch

[fierce light]

Yeah don't want Scorching to be on the Arcane Thunder.

[timid stirrup]

im currently trying to remake my incineration into double moderation but i've just hit wf 2x in a row trying to get moderation as 1st rare

it did make it into a killer incineration thanks to the 100% stat i recasted from rare

[fierce light]

Wow Paragon 6 is a pretty big DPS check

[fierce light]

Yup so pretty much won't have to worry about Recasting Value when you do get it

[timid stirrup]

my miasma drive is the same way but with moderation on it now

i kept getting scorching on the damn thing

i'm to scared to try and double this up

i'd rather do it on incineration cuz its a poison mod specific. wheras miasma is poison all around and used on every1

[peak finch]

isn't it better to have arcane in thunder scorching build?

[untold marsh]

depends on what you're going for

both are good if you get a max line on moderation you can keep it for thunder scorch

[fierce light]

Better to have double moderation so you can use it interchangably on any moderation build

[untold marsh]

if you're not running copper ward that is

[peak finch]

actually i had the double moderation first then i wanted scorching with windfall for thunder scorching build but i got this, without the scorching one i would have scorching level 9 on my thunder scorching build when i use arcane

[peak finch]

I have double scorching in my copper ward so i get scorching level 15 when i use it in my thunder scorching build and level 12 in regular draco build

[fierce light]

Well it's alright if you don't plan on using it on anyone but Viper or Tarka

But for everyone else it's more ideal you get Scorching on the core Souljades (Thunderpull, Thunder Counter, Thunderproof, or Draco Stride).

[peak finch]

it something not by your hand, the rng of these attributes can force you to have such situation

[woeful monolith]

did this change?

[fierce light]

Nope, still worse than Blessed

[woeful monolith]

Has anyone really tested luck in like Enigma, one guy runs literally gold key with 6 luck jades to see if drops were better or larger amount?

[hidden creek]

most says it gives better drops but ultimately it's still, well, ''luck''

i've been seeing some ppl building a poison luck set of jades specifically for enigma farming purpose

4 poison jades then lucky break and the 1000 luck sj

[cyan grove]

Is it normal that when I'm using the hydroflare build, I rarely stack the burn on the opponent?
Whenever I defuse -> dodge -> hit, it only shows 1 fire emblem next to the boss health

While I see multiple emblems in other vidoes (which means more damage due to burn)

[woeful monolith]

what is quadrus?

defuse?

[cyan grove]

Yeah, defuse

It means quadrus in french, I got mixed up in the languages lol

[fierce light]

HydroFlare clears all of your Burns at once. Defuse Flaming Blade applies on your next hit, while Raging Flame & Ember applies in the area around you.

[cyan grove]

Yeah but in some videos, I can see that 1 defuse can apply more than 1 burn?

[fierce light]

It's iffy. If there wasn't so much variance in the drops I'd say Luck is worth investing in, but not rn

[cyan grove]

Like here for example, the first defuse gave 3 burns

Meanwhile, I'm only giving one while doing the exact same thing

[solid rock]

Could be potentials and or other conditions that are needed for flame proc, ex. losing x% hp and proccing flare

[cyan grove]

I'm currently using this

[fierce light]

Skilled Fire Chant (from Skill cast), Blazing Phoenix Flash (Tarka Ji's Defuse Counterattack) and Defuse Flaming Blade

[cyan grove]

Oh, right

Thanks for taking time to explain

I'll try again, but Paragon 3 is kicking my ass

[fierce light]

Skilled Fire Chant dealing 350% of your Attack.

Blazing Phoenix Flash dealing 110% of your Attack.

They don't do much, but it's helpful for activating Incineration.

[restive wraith]

my first rare stat come in such an unexpected way holy f

[timid stirrup]

As much as I'm happy for you. It pains me to see the recast was on a max stat

[restive wraith]

It iz what it iz take it or leave it

atleast the build I'm following need this exact rare stat, I'm happy

[thorn narwhal]

he meant u should be recasting on the lowest % u have as max % is sometimes better than low rare

[spice canyon]

you dont get it

[fierce light]

It'll probably cost more crystals to get those low ones max than to get another Moderation

[restive wraith]

ahhhhh thanks for the tip, never know that :c

[fierce light]

Enigma Domain or Nirriti's Ruins.

[arctic skiff]

Hey guys, I run hydroflare build (draco, incineration, ember), I need to know the playstyle of that build, like the best time to hit after a defuse or a counter etc,?

[ebon parrot]

Uhh I think u jus defuse, dash, and then hold charge to prepare for defuse again

And repeat

[fierce light]

Generally you want to just Defuse anything that you can and dodge cancel out of your Defuse Counterattack for Draco Stride to activate. It's important to try to land a melee hit after every Defuse + Draco Stride to make sure you don't overwrite your previous Defuse • Flaming Blade proc.

If you have [Scorching] +6 or higher, you can start seeking parries as well for a more powerful Burn.

[arctic skiff]

Alright, thank you so much

[dry jolt]

Heyy can someone help me and a friend we are kinda new to showdown

[short meadow]

anyone has paragon 6 clear video?

[wet creek]

Someone help me, I’m new to the game. What is the current meta character in Showdown mode? And what talents? Is there any website that talks about the current meta?

Solo mode

[short meadow]

https://dark-zer0.github.io/Showdown/

[wet creek]

What is the current meta character? solo

showdown mode

What is Thunder Scorch Mod?

[short meadow]

It depends which hero you like the most , I prefer tarka , wuchan , viper , faira , tianhi

You can try wuchan easier to use

[wet creek]

I don't particularly like any of them. I would like to know which is the best currently used by pro players?

[short meadow]

Tarka

with thunder scorching

[wet creek]

ty

[untold marsh]

first stage doesn't matter as long as he dives and keeps throwing blues

[short meadow]

thats faster than SEA time

[normal mantle]

hello, i have i quest. so if i join nirriti ruins nightscream, can i have a chance to find icineration?

[copper summit]

You can get it from any level of Nirritri's as long as you've unlocked it from the campaign modes afaik
most people just farm hard mode from what I've seen

[normal mantle]

Thanks

[fathom bobcat]

Sometimes I wonder why spend two hours of retrying on yet another paragon just to pass...

[copper summit]

The thrill of the challenge and the satisfaction of not losing for once after retrying for 46 hours

[fathom bobcat]

Rather feeling of fatigue and wasted time when there is already not enough to grind hundreds of recasting for the sake of another +0%.

[restive wraith]

any one have a video for this? I get the exact room (it is the one with two bosses right?) but I can't find the wall

[slate juniper]

Is there anyone who can help me please?

[river stratus]

try ask here https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1045610531953852446

[thorn narwhal]

@restive wraith

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Mave leveled up!

[leaden relic]

Paragon 6 kinda tough stage ngl.
Noticed people have completed with a build I don’t have, and I’m running out of resources to make new one. I mainly play poison build as Wuchen. Gotta go grind stuff for new build or keep trying with what I have?

[restive wraith]

thank you so much

[fierce light]

https://youtu.be/kRkeLt0mMa0?t=80&si=9xXTx0v7_bAW1mXM

The rest of the room is like an oval shape with a section that sticks out

[restive wraith]

thank you teacher

[fierce light]

That's coming next update?

Thank God

It was going to get annoying when they added more elements

Big buff to poison build as well

[restive wraith]

This is my build right now, I'm about to get my Flux Jade from Season Challenge, I already have a rare stat on Pestilent Pool already, Infectious Touch should be my best choice for multiple builds right?

[fierce light]

Only use flux shards for your 2nd rare

[restive wraith]

ahhhhh I just keep farming/ recast till I have one already?

[fierce light]

Nice, hopefully for Cannon

[fierce light]

Yeah, one that you want

[restive wraith]

nice nice, thanks to you I haven't yeet my first ever flux shards out the window

[hidden creek]

enigma farming build

[granite marsh]

I'm extremely skeptical about luck

[timid stirrup]

if ur using wuchen u might wanna change out cyan fang for stomstride sword

thats the build i use on wuchen

[hidden creek]

well yeah but i run thunder scorch on all chars at this point anyway so it doesn't matter

[granite marsh]

Did you get any visible improvements on drops? I ran up to 10k luck before and pretty much had the same drops

[hidden creek]

it's... hard to say

but eh

ppl run 9k anyway

if it really does nothing

then no one would

[granite marsh]

Yeah I just rock the key whenever I get one but I'm convinced the devs are tryna give us placebo type effects

[hidden creek]

plus on poison build i don't even feel the dmg diff between 200% and 50% poison blast dmg

on bosses

so eh

i just rolled all the poison blast dmg to luck

[timid stirrup]

im slowly getting rid of my poison blast dmg

[granite marsh]

Is it not good?

[timid stirrup]

it goes in favor of 2nd rare

[hidden creek]

i mean, as 2nd bossing person i still does 4m+ damages on peak

[granite marsh]

Ah

[hidden creek]

with this poison-luck build

so yea on poison build you just need attk and dmg to boss honestly

ppl been saying poison blast dmg good for mobbing but they dies from the toxin blast anyway

[timid stirrup]

thats what i noticed. they mostly die from toxin blast

[timid stirrup]

where is this info coming from? is it reliable?

[fierce light]

Yeah Poison Blast makes up 8.4% of the damage from Toxin Blast. Even at max Poison Blast DMG from 12 Windfalls, it would still deal less than Toxin Blast.

[fierce light]

Likely the CN Test Server

It'll be a big buff for Greatsword, Polesword, Nunchucks (to an extent) and Dual Blades since they all have a powerful Wielding Souljade.

[amber terrace]

@fierce light all jades has wielding come into element jade

[hidden creek]

huh okay

that's... interesting

so now we can have aerial rend - poison wielding

[timid stirrup]

hmmm

ive been using single charged verticals on gs

or a single and a 2nd charge

[fierce light]

Forgot I didn't recalculate Aerial Rend's bonus accumulation, but it should be reduced down to 2 1st Charged Verticals.

Instead of 2nd Charged

[timid stirrup]

i wasnt using Aerial Rend

[fierce light]

If you don't have Aerial Rend, it's bad to use Charged Verticals.

[timid stirrup]

then what should i do?

[fierce light]

In that case you'd want to either use the 1st Charged Horizontal or Uncharged H-V-H Combo.

[timid stirrup]

it did feel slower but i kinda felt a groove with charged verticals

hmm

[fierce light]

Aerial Rend increases it's damage by 55%

To where it's one of the strongest attacks in the game

[timid stirrup]

i think it took 3 charges

[fierce light]

Should be 4 1st Charges or 3 2nd Charges.

[timid stirrup]

but i was also doing a trial build that became oddly useful on mobs

[fierce light]

Unless you have Defuse • Solidifcation active which brings them all down to 3.

[timid stirrup]

i think it was 2-3 1st charge verticals and then skill

[fierce light]

On mobs should just be 1.

[timid stirrup]

i was using my poison mod build and it was oddly satisfying

[fierce light]

Also make sure you're sliding whenever you use it

[timid stirrup]

i tried my best to slide every use

[fierce light]

Gives it like ~15% more damage some reason.

[timid stirrup]

sometimes its 1 1st charged vertical and the skill. if i let the skill hang for a rotation or 2

pending how many mobs r hit by the rotation

[fierce light]

Small mobs have less elemental resistance, so they take a lot less hits to proc on

Like 1/4th the amount bosses and mobs with aegis do.

[timid stirrup]

yeah. if i teleport at the right moment the mod procs perfectly

[amber terrace]

@fierce light new system enchance

[fierce light]

Oh nice, they automated spreading it evenly

[timid stirrup]

that looks interesting

i do hope these changes make it into the update

[fierce light]

I'm glad they're steadily removing the redundant clutter among the souljades. I wonder if they changed their mind on swapping weapons though

[timid stirrup]

that would b cool especially in heroes assemble where weapons get left hanging around

[hearty rivet]

Are these changes for next season?

[fierce light]

Most likely next update

[peak finch]

what is this? and how to do it?

[fierce light]

Sheathing your weapon?

Not sure how on Mouse and Keyboard

[hearty rivet]

There is a "sheath weapon" button for that, it's on the kb+m control page Learnt it after the matron slapping Matari video a couple of weeks ago 😔

[spice canyon]

Same 😹, the default button to sheath your weapon on keyboard is 0

[peak finch]

lol it seems i became a newbie in this game

[stoic heron]

Hey people. What would be the best way to farm alot of Souljades to reroll your attributes?

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Venomous Viper leveled up!

[subtle bramble]

farming is best in enigma or nirriti

speaking of enigma, I need help with making poison Yoto more effective against the mobs, for some reason my pestilent pools won't trigger as fast against mobs

it's like she does barely any damage to mobs with aegis

Any tips or is she just bad in enigma xD

[stoic heron]

i can explain it to you after i am done with this Nirriti run

[tribal yoke]

Weekend and still queues are 15mins+

[stoic heron]

that is why we have a discord and premades 😄

[stoic heron]

Well they just nerfed poison pool trigger effect. I've used it alot myself and i can't use the combo i normally would do to instant trigger it.
When it comes to trying to deal dmg to the mobs with Aegis i recommend you either don't stagger them and let them do a focus attack that you can either counter or defuse or if you find a way to trigger your poison pool.

[subtle bramble]

Tyy 🙏 I didn't know abt the nerf

[stoic heron]

neither did i but i figured after i normally do a full rotation with Viper and then use my F. That would trigger it normally but it haven't triggered for with that combo since

[fierce light]

Mobs with Aegis have the same elemental resistance as a boss, so it takes just as long to proc Poison Blast on them. Better to target any mobs that don't have Aegis first to proc is faster. In terms of the rankings of resistance:
Bosses = Mobs w/ Astal Aegis > Spawn-type Ents > Small Mobs.

If there is ever the Impassable Omen, then you can't accumulate elements on any mobs with Aegis until you break it or whenever you use a Counterstrike against them. Assuming you're using Aerial Rend on Yoto, you want to do x2 2nd Charged Verticals to proc Poison Blast the quickest on Bosses|Mobs with Aegis.

[fierce light]

What full rotation?

[subtle bramble]

tyyy, it must have been impassable, i really need to check the omens 🤦‍♀️ I immediatly assumed something was wrong w my yoto build because I hadn't played her in enigma prior

played again and checked the omens, no impassable and it was so much faster lol

can't wait for the update to wielding jades though so aerial rend is even more effective for poison yoto

[fierce light]

Yeah that should bring it down to x2 1st Charged Aerial Rends.

Going to proc around the same speed as Viper Mod tbh

[west trellis]

is doing nirriti legend difficulty worth it if you've already completed it?
in terms of drops

does it even drop better jades?

[hidden creek]

no it's not worth it

just farm nirriti hard

[fierce light]

They pretty much made it a one time clear. Would be nice if they made it have a (noticeably) better drop rate or use a lot more fatigue than it does, cause it takes a long time to clear.

[warped pumice]

could someone explain to me how im supposed to complete these, i dont understand

[river stratus]

max 3 collection types in 1 run, awakening, element, ying-yang etc..

[warped pumice]

oh okay, and what abt the ring hoarder

[river stratus]

i dont remeber that tbh, maybe 40 animas on 1 run

[warped pumice]

oop, alright well thank you

[fierce light]

Probably stack up on currency Animas to buy a bunch of other ones

[warped pumice]

ooo alright, thank youu!

[granite marsh]

Can I force gambit to spawn somehow? Like stacking awakening rings or something

[cyan grove]

How do you guys do 6000 damage with only one projectile?

[river stratus]

feria musket while boss is down

[cyan grove]

do you need any special rings?

[river stratus]

pick up as much you can ranged rings

[cyan grove]

okok ty

[timid stirrup]

does anybody know the reckoning dice results for each roll in Heroes Assemble?

[rancid rivet]

can any1 help us on omnious descent nightscream trios? i cant find 1 more, we're 2 :C

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Pepega leveled up!
| Extra rewards were added for missing levels
ℹ | Level up messages can be disabled for the guild with owo level disabletext

[twin ledge]

If they don’t fix these speedrun bosses where one person counters and boss just throw another blur or attack a completely different direction I’m quitting like it doesn’t make sense that they do that

[formal lark]

where I can farm golden keys btw? I heard some stages are better for that.

[fierce light]

Dangers in the Deep

[formal lark]

thanks

[timid stirrup]

Really? I had no idea

[fierce light]

Can drop up to 2 Rune Keys

[timid stirrup]

im assuming nightscream correct

[fierce light]

Yeah drop rate is lower on lower difficulties

[untold marsh]

@fierce light i understand why you play her now

her defuse is still grief tho

[steep patio]

If you kill the orb it doesn’t spawn the dragon?

[untold marsh]

yeah

you can even parry the ball

[steep patio]

I knew that but didn’t know if you killed the orb it doesn’t spawn dragon

I invested to far into my poison build and it’s to late to do thunder scorch

Yama is a pain for leaderboards

For poison build

[untold marsh]

the ball has so much hp that only a thunder scorching build with +6.7k health can kill it before the dragon spawns

[steep patio]

Kinda wish I did thunder scorch

My poison has 15 scorch 75% mod and 2 windfalls

[untold marsh]

if you're willing do dismantle your poison build you can probably get a descent one by the end of season

[steep patio]

Yeah I thought about that

But ima wait till the end of season

See how leaderboards are for last Yama

[dusk plover]

Wait wait wait, how you not die to the mermaid attack?

[untold marsh]

dmg reduction from parry

[fierce light]

Lol you didn't even use Aerial Rend

[warped falcon]

Slapping the boss mid fight is so funny XD

[timid stirrup]

does anybody know what the result of a 6 roll for reckoning dice in heroes assemble is?

[west trellis]

4 weeks of showdown
cant believe i was a complete noob back then

aiming for top 20 next reset cz i dont have anything to level my last jade with

[neat onyx]

[fierce light]

I wish you could choose what 3 you display, instead of just your highest level ones

[untold marsh]

yeah lol this stage needs all the health you can get to kill the orb before dragon spawns

[cyan grove]

yoo can you share your build please? it looks sick

[ebon parrot]

What are some builds for mobs other than mod

Does standard thunder work

[timid stirrup]

if ur running wuchen poison is good

[fierce light]

Poison (for mobbing) and Standard HydroFlare (for bossing) are probably your best bet without relying heavily on rare attributes

[timid stirrup]

i feel poison wuchen can do bosses pretty well

[fierce light]

Yeah poison can boss to an extent, HydroFlare just performs better on average. Wuchen has a really strong base kit though that's a bit awkward on HydroFlare so it's certainly a good option.

[cyan grove]

Tysm

[hidden creek]

nah if they jumped out of the poison pool or for some reason you got knocked out of it and couldn't make it back on time to stack the toxified effect onto yourself, you lose alot dps

also it sucks to hold aggro if you're running poison so solo bossing with poison is just ew

[crisp horizon]

which hero the hardest to clear Yama Abyss, assuming you use same build for all heroes

[fierce light]

Matari

[crisp horizon]

because she use dagger? or her skill not useful for showdown?

[wispy fog]

hello guys. ive been farming souljade levels through nirritis ruin normal. is this the best way to max the sense level or is any better?

atm im at 980

[hidden creek]

her defuse is very different compare to the rest
and by different i mean hard af to use

[hidden creek]

enigma better

enigma = more sj, nirriti = more crystal
but enigma need key to enter so

[wispy fog]

probably i can clear it with my sense level right? im using poison build with wuchen

[hidden creek]

don't need to clear actually

we're talking about souljade per fatigue

in enigma the more bosses you kill = the more ftg consume

the strat ppl been using to speed leveling sense is just kill 3 first bosses then leave, it's the fastest way

as long as you got enough enigma key to spend

[crisp horizon]

who else other than her that is hard?

[hidden creek]

no one really are

just the difference of their defuses

[wispy fog]

okay thank you! seems need clear the nightscream story which is pain atm

[fierce light]

• She has really low base damage, so elements take forever to accumulate on tougher enemies.
• Her Defuse sends her upwards & forward and is the most ping dependent at the moment, making it the hardest to use.
• Her AoE is pretty much non-existent, making clearing groups of enemies very ineffective.
• Her Martial Skill is the weakest in the game, so even with Aegis-Break Rage, it deals bad DPS.
• All of her Wielding Jades have a low base damage as well, making the majority inefficient at accumulating element.

[crisp horizon]

[arctic skiff]

I can help you clear nightscream story if you are on right now

[wispy fog]

i cant atm but thanks a lot! ❤️

[fathom bobcat]

Temulch, Matari. Likewise, I can't recommend Valda and Yoto enough. Yueshan isn't easy and doesn't pay off effort required for it, but overall it's not bad.

[dense osprey]

Matari

[dusk plover]

Still waiting for some kind of buff to her to play her for fun and it not take forever farming 🥲

[hearty rivet]

Would be nice if she got some rework or buff but still (at least, to me) hydroflare or thunderscorch Matari is not unfun to play.

[dusk plover]

I mainly just want enigma bosses to change, im tired of fighting rock and mostly water phase bosses over and over

[subtle bramble]

thisss, it's a fun mode overall and great for farming but it's made so boring by just having to fight the same bosses constantly

[fierce light]

Honestly wish we had some form of infinite farm mode/free roam. It'll consume our fatigue the more stuff we do/get. With random events and quests around the map.

[upper herald]

hello hello, im new here, i was wondering if anyone can help me beat immovable on nightscream, i cant seem to beat it solo

[fierce light]

I'd recommend asking in #🐲┃showdown-lfg

[tulip cloud]

Anyone want to play speedrun? EU

[hollow light]

Anyone doing Doom showdown SEA Server

[woeful monolith]

Ask in #🐲┃showdown-lfg but msg me ill play

[peak finch]

if any one wants any help in showdown dm me

[south tusk]

why drop reward like this still exist

[golden token]

Can someone explain please, why everybody rolls hp as substat on build that counter divine thunder?

[twin ledge]

and if its on thunder they have it for scorching

[restive wraith]

can Moderation affect Windfall here? (I will change poison blast to boss dmg % asap)

[fierce light]

It only affects non-rare attributes.

[restive wraith]

it kinda wasted then

[quick magnet]

R.N.G

[hearty rivet]

totally not. viper uses moderation for her poison build

[restive wraith]

yea that's why I said kinda, cause I wanted moderation for that build, plus with Windfall I have +50% for 2 stats, which is 100% in total so my [Windfall] basically equal one normal stat, except it is "better" stat than others

[fierce light]

Assuming you go for 2 rare attributes on each jade, each windfall you get will have equivalent value. Although it is more ideal to get Moderation on the Souljades typically used in the Moderation build (Incineration & Arcane Thunder) so your non-mod builds are at full strength as well.

[wet creek]

I'm a beginner, can I put the Scorching attribute on the soulsjades at the beginning that I get on the normal game difficulty? Using recast?

hello?

[hidden creek]

i really don't get what you mean

you can get a rare attribute on any souljade through recast

doesn't matter where the sj comes from

[wet creek]

ty

my english is not very good

[river stratus]

i f you have scorcing remember to turn on blazing flame on potential, no worth without it

[wet creek]

ok

[cyan grove]

is dmg to boss better than poison dmg for the poison build?

[fathom bobcat]

with game requiring couple hundred recasting for one minimally normal jade.

I lost motivation to farm PvE because of such “rewards” and the presence of any playable build.

[granite marsh]

Just farm double drops on 150% rewards

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Sczwt leveled up!
ℹ | Level up messages can be disabled for the guild with owo level disabletext

[granite marsh]

only takes 5-6 games tops

[fathom bobcat]

I get to 100% dropouts and forget about showdown until next week. I realize that recasting system is designed for motivated сhinese with 2400 fatigue closing every week, but it doesn't make me feel any better.

and at 150% I had 4 Enigma's in a row with 2-3 purple jades (the rest are blue).

[fierce light]

I wouldn't really recommend it unless you manage to get some meta Souljades early. It'll eat up a lot of your resources trying to get it early.

[fierce light]

Poison Blast makes up ~8.4% of the damage from Poison. So Poison Blast DMG ends up being really ineffective.

[limpid pecan]

can u post full breakdown of damage in poison build?

[restive wraith]

some speak from my teacher himself

[granite marsh]

whats the most efficient combo input when attacking with kurumi, viper & wuchen? Just spam charged R1s & 2s?

[spice canyon]

Depends on what build/jade you are using, but in general spamming charge attack > dodge is way to go

[fierce light]

Kurumi:

• [Standard Rotation] Blink Strike (1st Charged Attack) → Severing Gust (Martial Skill)
• [With Cyan Fang] Uncharged Vertical → Uncharged Vertical → Cyan Fang (Uncharged Horizontal)
  Viper:
• [With Cyan Fang] Uncharged Horizontal → Uncharged Vertical → Cyan Fang (Uncharged Horizontal) ↻
• [Charging Thunderpull] Horizontal Pheonix Blast (Charged Attack)
• [With Aegis-Break Rage] Horizontal Pheonix Blast → Thunderbolt (Martial Skill)
  Wuchen:
• Horizontal Throw (Charged Attack) → Yin Yang Seal (Martial Skill)

[fierce light]

Nice, we're getting some new Souljades

Oh wow they buffed Matari's Defuse

[Dev's Listened.](#1283843960820989952 message)

[cyan grove]

I wish I knew that before

I'll change my stats then, thank you

Is damage to boss outside of attack % the best stat for this build?

[fierce light]

Yes.

[cyan grove]

Alright, thank you!!!

Time to farm again

[limpid pecan]

they kinda need to do something with ranged jades too

not to mention they are hot garbage

[fierce light]

Poison Cannon might be decent

Would be nice though if we could select having a Ranged Weapon or a secondary Melee weapon.

[hidden creek]

at this point just increase the amount of sj slots to 12 or something

[fierce light]

You still wouldn't use them. Pretty much how bad they are 💀

[hidden creek]

🥹 lock the 2 last slots being ranged only then

[hearty rivet]

My problem is that in my experience normal key enigma runs don't seem to provide more purple/golden souljades to nirriti hard runs. But the variance of purple/golden sj drops in every game mode is so big that it's hard to see any differences beyond extra factors (fatigue, doubling potions, gold vs normal keys)

Been making notes of my sj drops for 5 weeks now and the only conclusion I could make so far is that I get about half-2/3s of my souljades from the 1st 600 fatigue and the rest from the next 1200 (and I notoriously don't have time to deplete my last quarter of fatigue)

[fierce light]

Assuming they have the same drop rates of Epic/Legendary Souljades, Enigma should net more overall since you get more Souljades/Fatigue. Nirriti gives slightly less.

• Enigma Domain (Legendary Rune Key): 0.8 Souljades per Fatigue
• Enigma Domain (Rune Key): 0.5 Souljades per Fatigue
• Nirriti's Ruins: 0.4 Souljades per Fatigue

[limpid pecan]

farming keys for enigma is a problem

if u factor in having to farm keys

dunno if enigma is that great

[fierce light]

Yeah

Chapter missions are pretty bad at everything, aside from specific drops.

[hearty rivet]

Okay, this is correct but 1) keys are limited 2) golden keys are super limited 3) this is total number of souljades and I was talking about golden + purple souljades that will give the majority of your weekly fragments. I only counted my golden+purple souljades that looks similar regardless of game mode.

Still, in a completely theoretical scenario if you have unlimited keys but you're super unlucky and you get only blue souljades from all of your weekly runs from converting all those blue souljades you indeed get more from enigma or golden enigma runs. Golden enigma yields 2 times the fragments you'd get from only nirriti runs and normal enigmas yield 1.25 times of nirriti, so yeah this is a difference (~132, 83 and 66 were the fragment yield I calculated with the 10% golden sj/90% purple sj conversion result).

As reference I got an average of 300 fragments per week (+/- 10) from souljade drops (and didn't count the other souljade source, like weekly quests or gift/chamber shop weekly souljade purchases). Before Aurora season start week I got 350 sfragments from drops but that's only one week so can't decide if we got a nerf with Aurora or that was an exceptionally lucky week.

[fierce light]

Yeah there's just too much variance in a stamina-based system

There's usually a minimum and maximum amount for these kinds of systems since you can't make up for bad rolls by spending more time like in a free-play system.

[hearty rivet]

Yeah so much RNG v.v I mean random loot is okay, to an extent but I wouldn't be unhappy if min and max were a bit closer (and not closer to the current minimum ^^; )

[signal kite]

@flat pier Have to farm enigma UwU

[timid stirrup]

maybe we will have a better poison cannon build

well more effective that it might beat frost cannon

or b closer in numbers

[fierce light]

Crazy they're still keeping the Ranged Souljades separate

But they only drop from Enigma Topaz so ig it doesn't matter much

[timid stirrup]

farming gold keys and got this instead. im not complaining

[forest furnace]

Anyone up for running Nirriti’s ruins on normal?

I just started this game a few days ago and doesn’t seem like anyone does showdown on trio

[fierce light]

Yeah a lot of the queues are usually premades, but with it being the day of reset, most people have maxed their fatigue already if they have

I'd recommend asking in #🐲┃showdown-lfg

[forest furnace]

Ty

[fierce light]

Reset is <t:1730318400:R> so there might be more people on then. But there's a maintenance starting at <t:1730329200:t> so beware.

[forest furnace]

Thank you, I am always looking for new friends to game with.

[wet creek]

What are luck-based Soulsjades used for in Showdown mode?

[timid stirrup]

decoration

[wet creek]

Don’t they increase my chances of getting a legendary Soulsjade upon completing a mission?

[timid stirrup]

i mean yes n no

[wet creek]

@fierce light What are luck-based Soulsjades used for in Showdown mode?

[timid stirrup]

i say that cuz yes thats what they r meant to do. but the % at which it increases isn't very noticable

[fierce light]

Not really used in general. There's so much variance in the drops that luck has a negligible effect

[wet creek]

oh ok ty

[fierce light]

Doesn't appear to affect the quantity of Souljades dropped, so it's believed to do that

But it's hardly noticeable aside from 9k Luck in Enigma.

[golden token]

Is there any difference in quantity of epic\legendary souljade drops in nirritis ruin depending on the difficulty level?

[fierce light]

Above Hard, there doesn't seem to be a noticeable difference

[golden token]

Ty!

[fierce light]

Wow this speedrun gives free weapon repairs

It's like they want you to use cannon

Wow, Rare Attribute from 3 Stars reward

[round glacier]

Nice lol

[fierce light]

I hope the new melee jades coming up are good

Poison Cannon sounds like it'd be great for this speedrun

[fierce light]

Anyone have clips of the new melee jades?

[mint surge]

[fierce light]

Thanks. Sounds promising

Spear might have an Aerial Rend/Torrent Flow equivalent if they scale it up similarly.

[whole pebble]

How I imagine Naraka Devs are now while waiting for the server to go up with all the new item releases.
https://vlipsy.com/vlip/B9LYLZPH

[fierce light]

Man these shader warmups kill me. It's like downloading the update over again

[fierce light]

Okay so for Nunchucks and Spear:

Nunchucks
Serpent's Whisper < Velocity Untold in terms of DPS and Elemental Accumulation. Both take the same amount of hits to proc any element on a boss.

Spear
Chained Sweeping > Crescent Slam in terms of DPS and Elemental Accumulation. Both take the same amount of hits to proc Poison Blast, but Chained Sweeping procs in one less use for Divine Thunder and Ice Blast. Erudition technically has the highest DPS of them all, but has a really long animation and awkward targeting making it not favorable.

[hexed vapor]

if it's a spirit of Yushan - it's not count? (i mean doom 3)

[hexed vapor]

Yep. I asked about Doom, that we have right now. 3 stage have Yushan but like a ghost/spirit. It didn't count?

[hidden creek]

it's not the required stage

the required stage is GELID YUSHAN

iirc gelid yushan won't appear on doom, only on speedrun

[hexed vapor]

Ty for explanation ^_^

[hidden creek]

1st run of the week, 14.4k luck (9k from 3 gold keys, 5.4k from souljades), with elixir

tf is this drop?

though i do get one jade with rare attribute

but 1 gold jade?

wtf??

[granite marsh]

Could've sworn I get more rare drops In Nirriti Nightscream vs Hard

[round glacier]

New jades drop in nirriti?

Dont wanna farm yushan and together lol

[granite marsh]

Should drop as long as you've unlocked them in the respective difficulty

[fervent imp]

does any1 plays this in trios? been trying to look for a match for almost 10 mins now
i wanna complete it for a quest but always die on the last boss in solo lol

[subtle bramble]

try finding team in #🐲┃showdown-lfg

[fervent imp]

oh ty

[timid igloo]

Finally got into the top 10 for the first time

[grim spoke]

hi

[granite marsh]

are you on sea? I usually find a match 1~5 mins at any point of time

[fervent imp]

EU :<

was on the search for 20 mins and then went solo hard lol

[thorn narwhal]

i got abit excited when they said their data shows "carved crystal overflow" rip they really just want people to lose motivation

[fierce light]

Yeah they claim they didn't change the actual rates, but just added a note that it drops more

[fierce light]

Ah the change to Soul Slash went through.

[timid stirrup]

@fierce light thoughts on toxic cannon?

[fierce light]

Thunder Cannon and Poison Cannon both take 2 Shots to proc Poison Blast on small mobs (w/ Hydro's Bound). Thunder Cannon hits slightly harder (+5%), but does slightly less Toxin Accumulation (-13%).

[cyan vapor]

Hello guys, I’m not new to the game and not new to showdown, but I met someone who told me that my built is rly bad. I have almost every jade and scorching on thunder counter but don’t know how to use it properly. Can someone help me find a good build, pls?

Ah and moderation on thunder pull and silcworm, each.

[fierce light]

The Player's Favorites section under Recommended in-game usually shows good builds for every Hero.

There's also this site that showcases all the currently used builds with a description.

[cyan vapor]

Thanks you 🙂

[cyan vapor]

Is copper ward nessesary? I feel like it is a disadvantage.

Thank for the quick help btw this. Link was exactly what I needed.

[fierce light]

No, depending on the build you can replace it with Defuse • Flaming Blade, Defuse • Aegis-Break, Thunder Mastery or some Element Wielding Souljade (Souljade with a name ending in • Element).

But in most cases Copper Ward is a bigger damage increase than the other options.

[tacit nest]

guys

im upgrading hella slow in showdown

anyone got good tips

just tryna get better fr

level faster

[bronze wharf]

Bruh ! windfall on sap

[timid stirrup]

if u mean sense level u should b able to solo nirriti normal and/or hard. if not bring a friend or 2. raise sense after each after run so u know where ur at. when u get around 900ish u should b able to solo 1st 3 bosses of enigma topaz. continue doing enigmas 3bosses until late 900s early 10s or when u feell comfortable attempting all 9 bosses. once u can clear all 9 bosses continue to that until u hit max sense. keep in mind you will b getting plenty of jades so keep tabs on ur jade inventory

[fierce light]

It's a pretty slow process, but it is consistent.

[restive wraith]

If my build don't necessary need Scorch, is it better to throw it away the next time I got Flux Shard? or it is still good dmg?
(yes that attack + 1% is killing me slowly)

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Mea leveled up!

[fierce light]

Probably should've replaced the Scorching with a different rare before using Flux.

[restive wraith]

no Scorch is my second one

[fierce light]

Ohh

[restive wraith]

I recast till I get Moderation there, but windfall also good for the other poison build

[fierce light]

Well it's low priority to replace though

After you've gotten 2 rares on all your other jades

[restive wraith]

ah nice

thank you teacher

[bronze wharf]

Best Counter inn showdown ?

[fierce light]

I love when they get distracted and forget to counterstrike

Anyone try Cannon build in the Speedrun?

[hidden creek]

imagine they could do the ps counterattack lol

yoto gon be like

https://tenor.com/view/guess-ill-die-gif-9704573

[fierce light]

New Matari Movement

It's a lot easier to stay airborne now without Netherstep, but still sucks it hits so weak.

[river stratus]

tryed ice cannon, is fun

[drifting lance]

🎉 | quaverr leveled up!
| Extra rewards were added for missing levels

[timid stirrup]

i tried with poison cannon jade and the mobs were going down pretty fast. but didnt get a faster time

[fierce light]

Ah gotcha

[tacit nest]

dude i tried the hard nirriti

im 760 souljade power

might be skill issue tho fr

ill try again

[fierce light]

Sense Level doesn't affect Nirriti

Just your Fire Forge level, the more you run it, the more it increases.

Also having more in your Collections helps as well

[tacit nest]

fire forge?????

where do i see that

[fierce light]

It should be in the menu after you choose Nirriti's Ruins

[tacit nest]

ohhhh worddddd

i never even saw that

i almost beat the last boss on hard nirriti with 0 upgrades

i thought it was a skill issue

[timid stirrup]

i did say normal and/or hard. you can do a few normals til u get comfortable to move onto hard

[fierce light]

Yeah if you're starting out you won't have much upgrades, so Hard should be actually Hard and Nightscream a nightmare lol

[granite marsh]

How big is the dps diff for poison builds if I don't have Noxious Blast?

[hidden creek]

alot

infectious touch, noxious blast and poison pool are must-have

[ebon parrot]

yayyyyy

finally a scorching on hydroflare

tho windfall on this one prob wouldve profitted more

[fierce light]

You need 5 stacks of Toxified (6 stacks without Poisonous Assault) to activate Toxin Blast. Not having Noxious Blast makes you go to 4 Stacks per rotation. So every 4th rotation after your 1st won't proc Toxin Blast.

[arctic skiff]

How many windfall, scorching do I need on (draco, ember, incineration) hydroflare build?

[fierce light]

Rares aren't necessary to use it, but the ideal amount is 8 Windfalls and 4 Scorchings.

[arctic skiff]

I have almost maxed the attributes on that build but i still feel the dps is pretty low

I only have 3 winds on that build too

[fierce light]

It's DPS just scales with the more Defuses you can do

[arctic skiff]

Thank you so much

[delicate ridge]

HOW LONG does the baize's blessing stay for guys

[spice canyon]

it's a monthly subscription, so permanent I guess ?

[hearty rivet]

You get Baize coins for 24 days in a 30 period of time, then it expires.

[lilac dome]

Is it possible to just beat the Matron on nightscream on pure skill with my sense level barely meeting it or is it just impossible

[static holly]

anyone have informtion on the new anmia ring?

[tacit nest]

anyone got tips on how to beat "immovable" on hard mode on the morus isle

im above the souljade level by 40

but the monsters just somehow keep destroying the shit out of the thing im supposed to protect

😭

[fierce light]

Having the right build matters more than your Sense.

[fierce light]

Some element based build is strongly recommended. If you can make one. Ideally try to have all 6 Souljades with a matching Wielding Type on them. Poison would probably be the most ideal since it gets the most accumulation from your potential tree alone (Hydro's Bound).

[tacit nest]

you recommend poison?

i use the thunder one

and im tryna use the beginner build but i need a certain souljade for that

[fierce light]

Yeah a lot of the meta builds have their core Souljades locked to Nightscream. But if you can farm a good element jade early, with the right Wielding type, that should help.

[hearty rivet]

I'm curious (and apparently not gud enough to clear yama6, yet). What boss is yama 7?

[fierce light]

Iron Taifeng and Fiery Monster

Yama 6 probably has the highest dps check atm

[hearty rivet]

Yeah it is brutal. Alas my supersafe wuchen skyfire build is not enough for that check o.o It doesn't help either that the boss abilities change too depending on heroes or builds. On the plus side, I learnt a lot about eerie dragon + polearm dude.

[round glacier]

Cant even clear paragon 2 with those 2 idiots spamming jump attacks right after each other and big dude spamming back to back grabs lol

[zinc viper]

It not possible doing 2 stone boss laone

LIKE IMPOSSBILE

Maybe if I cheat

Forfeit showdown for this season

[river stratus]

possible fight more than 2 enemies together

[fierce light]

It's just like the Lost Rooms in old Yama's. Except you have a lot more room to work with but they have mobs.

[sullen pawn]

it is annoying tho

[burnt jetty]

how are people handling high end yamas? Im on Astral 3 and am 66 na feria and it feels like i should not be that high on leaderboards

[copper summit]

prolly cos most people seem to play Viper or Wuchen for any extra high levels of it, so the others have much lower thresholds for ranking in top 100

[fierce light]

Top 100 always felt a bit easy to reach tbh even in Speedrun

Only would say it's hard in CN cause of the large playerbase

[cobalt torrent]

i guess the easiest and fastest way to level up characters is to farm normal morus isle or something?

as all of them are giving 100 xp

[sour wedge]

you mean the actual char level (not the souljade sense level)?

you can do the showdown cultivation missons for alchemized soul (the little green xp orbs). On the right side of the screen is a book icon, click that to see them and each level has it's own.

Also, I got the "Lost" curse from the chest and got the 2 boss room. I couldn't figure out which wall I needed the axe guy to destroy?

Anyone know which it is? For that one secret Anima Ring.

[hidden creek]

https://youtu.be/W0iSRMi6PGQ?t=284

[sour wedge]

Oh perfect, thanks!

[fierce light]

I'd say to priorize your Sense Level though since Hero Levels can come passively.

[lone wharf]

hello guys

Does anyone know Yoto Hime's potential for the showdown?

[fierce light]

Potential depends on the Souljades you're running rather than the Hero.

[granite marsh]

For a moment I thought somehow you managed to activate all of the potentials lmao

[sour wedge]

Likewise, haha.

[granite marsh]

Got another windfall 30% when looking for a scorching. Keep or nah?

[fiery rock]

Keep and maybe try to get scorch on another jade

[burnt jetty]

3rd aurora legendary

[hollow light]

What does Flux Jade do?

[fierce light]

It allows you to change an attribute on a Souljade into a random Rare Attribute.

[hollow light]

Thanks, are Flux Jades the only way to Get Rare Attributes?

[timid stirrup]

no if the jade has no rare attributes u can recast an attribute into a rare. odds r low tho

and the rare will b 1 of 3. windfall, moderation, and scorching

[dusk plover]

@fierce light is there any reward difference for doing hard instead of normal nirriti?

[timid stirrup]

added jade drop pool

[dusk plover]

Meant like increase of drop percentages

[hollow light]

Is it better to farm in Engima 3 stages then quit for farming SJs?

[hidden creek]

that method is for sense farming

for sj farming just do as much bosses as possible

[hollow light]

Does every member need to have a Key to run in Engima for Trio?

or just one?

[hidden creek]

you always need a key to enter enigma

solo or trio

[fierce light]

Hard does seem to have slightly better drops.

I haven't done normal in a while though so it could've changed

[dusk plover]

Okay, I’m just trying to get through fatigue quicker since I’m at the point of upgrading the percent of my attributes now and it’s awful

[fierce light]

The drop pool for normal is also just pretty barebones

Can try for a decent Souljade from Hard and above

[cobalt torrent]

bonuses from collections in nirriti ruins are active only when we get to the blessing activating thresholds (4/4 and 12/12) or are they active all the time?

[timid stirrup]

the in game bonus of 4/4 and 12/12 yes. but there are category bonuses when u look at them that are active at all times pending category collection amount

example

[cobalt torrent]

so should i focus more on upgrading those collections or fire forge?

[hidden creek]

why do you need to ''focus'' on what anyway...

just play more and you'll get them all eventually

and you don't even need all of them to be able to do nirriti on hardest difficulty anyway

[limpid pecan]

what is the last ring in survival?

the one that has only 1 lvl

it has some specific requirement?

[hidden creek]

the ring name is Armor Recovery·Vanquisher

as for accquire condition... idk, haven't seen it too

[fierce light]

Feels like the algorithm for the rings got worse when they added all these new ones tbh

[fierce light]

Fire Forge levels up just from playing, so you don't have to focus it really. I just grab any ring with a book if it appears

[timid stirrup]

i got armor recovery vanquisher from just having a random survival ring that was armor based or it might've been calamity fortitude. so i would assume any survival ring can give it a chance to appear

im currently only missing 3 attack animas to complete the full ring collection

[cyan grove]

Do any of you guys have a gameplay video of how to play Valda with the poison build?

[granite marsh]

So far I feel like if you want to level a certain collection, selecting stuff related to it as much as possible will tilt the odds of a similar ring of the same collection to spawn more frequently

[hidden creek]

well ofc, the more rings you pick of the same collection the more chance of more rings of the same collection to appear

else even getting 12 blessing is hard lol

[hidden creek]

i mean, poison gameplay is literally braindead
you just do whatever gives highest dps/element accumulation while maintain honed status

[fierce light]

Don't think I have one, but it's mainly using Chained Sweeping or Crescent Slam Element jade 3x to proc Poison Blast, then 1x into Martial Skill to proc Toxin Blast

[untold marsh]

craziest stage so far

[fierce light]

Eventually they gonna have us fighting two full health bosses at once at this rate

[hearty rivet]

Maybe last level will have korvine and bough 🙃

[thorn narwhal]

i think fixing the 2 hit scorch boss killer by increasing to this massive hp is not actually a fix

[untold marsh]

Could be.
Paragon 2 was already eerie stone + stone monster that respawns, nothing thunder scorching can't take care of.)

[fierce light]

I consider Stone Monster like a mini boss cause it doesn't have any extra phases, no ultimate attack and no counter-counterstrike.

[thorn narwhal]

new strat that makes sense in this game

its dumb to fully finish apparently

and what counts for this

[fervent imp]

can some1 pls share any tips on how to slay Korvine on Astral 2? i just never have enough time to kill her lol she attacks 90% of the time and i can only land 1-2 attacks between her attacks
here's a screenshot of my best attempt and idk what to do at this point, my sense level is 1020 and i'm not sure if upgrading it to 1030 will bring much help

[hollow light]

Which character has the best offense in range? Am looking at building a range set for Doom but not sure what SJs and Hero are the usual go to for Range