👾┃showdown

[timid stirrup]

damn ok i need to adjust to these new delayed attacks then and combo changes

for some reason i can only get to 2nd part using skyfire

cant do it with hydroflare or poison builds

[woeful monolith]

this build is totally balanced.....

[fierce light]

It's not as easy as it looks. Mainly takes advantage of the inactive spawn time, but for longer fights, it just takes one mistake to die between the HP drain from Incineration and Thunderpull.

[limpid pecan]

also that person has basically max damage stats

it takes me 4 scorchings to kill first stage

while he can do in 2 with matari attack buff

to be honest im little shocked how much more damage he does

my stats are pretty decent overall

i can get 5 more windfalls and thats about it

[woeful monolith]

Yes but that can be said with any build really. The fact is if you do it right and you finish the boss in under a minute is the problem.

[woeful monolith]

Most the guys on the lieaderboards are literally 3 Rares deep on each jade

[woeful monolith]

Your replies on videos with this build have changed. Im assuming your using it now amiright?

You say its not that easy....but if you do it right the boss fight is done in under a minute pretty much every stage. Any other build your having to actually fight the boss for 2-4 times longer giving you way more room for error to die.

[limpid pecan]

we already covered 3 rares is not even optimal

[limpid pecan]

they are max stats and the scaling on current stage is still low, we are still far from final stage release in yama

i doubt they will be able to oneshot boss like this when they have much more hp scaling

[woeful monolith]

Literally like 2 or 3 stages left... and up to now every stage has been done around a minute give or take with the majority 2-4 times longer than that. Exception of Hell Hole omen.

[limpid pecan]

we dont know how many stages are after paragon 5, last season it was not even possible to scroll to next set without completing previous 5

still 2 months or so left this season

[subtle bramble]

high investment high risk high reward build lol

[hearty rivet]

In the seasonal showdown challenge list you can see that the yama challenge has another pip after the para 5 stage, I'm sure we'll have 5 more stages till the end of the season.

Possible Matari fix: have her slap receive bonus from the epic weapon she is not wielding and make it possible to counter and defuse while being unarmed. 😅

[timid stirrup]

Switch her weapon to fistblades

[fierce light]

Matari's Attack buff counts as an external source, so it's really a x1.4 multiplier. 2 Scorchings dealing ~3 Scorchings worth of damage. The rest made up from stats.

[fierce light]

HydroFlare doesn't have the risk of Thunderpull and defusing gives an iframe while countering doesn't.

Element builds have inherent healing in their potential along with Armor. Poison just has to use Infectious Touch in time to stay net positive.

Skyfire build has no risk, just Defusing every 5 seconds for optimal damage output. Easy on bosses this aggro.

While I agree the build is definitely busted, bro had to roll the boss rng for at least a day to achieve that time.

[fierce light]

Yeah it changed because when I did acquire the build I realized it's probably the highest risk build we've had in the game. Coming from someone who played when Backfire + Desperation was meta, this build is even harder to use. I still do think it's overtuned, but I no longer think it's easy.

[fierce light]

Lol not happening. They just need to fix Dagger's numbers (at least bring them up to Katana) or allow you to change melee weapons.

[limpid pecan]

yeah but still something like 30% dmg is missing

pretty crazy

i can get like extra 37.5% hp and maybe 10% attack

[fierce light]

Yeah that was on Kakashi's account iirc. He has like maxed everything.

[thorn narwhal]

tbh the guy has a point, every time they scale boss's health and attack normal players are mostly the ones affected as u still have to play perfectly for 4mins+ and learn every boss movement as most bosses just slay u with a hit or 2

[woeful monolith]

I figured so, regardless of it being "hard" its just not possible to achieve the same time's with any other build. I see the leaderboards are flooded with this build and around 1 minute times while everyone else is 2-4 times that.
Also your having to dial your own timing while any other build has to dial in the boss timing since the fights are 2-4 times longer leaving us with more error to be had. Especially now with the quick restart and at most your fights are a minute.

It just simply needs to be scaled down, shouldnt be able to pretty much finish high level bosses in one Thunder counter essentially.

[fierce light]

Yeah it has a significantly higher damage ceiling even if it is harder to play. Issue is it's doing more damage than 2 Toxin Blasts (3+ at a high enough Burn DMG multiplier) in one Thunder Counter. Just ends up farming runs to get the most parries in the shortest time.

You pretty much die in 1-2 hits running Copper Ward vs 3-5 without it.

[timid stirrup]

Fuck finally

it was ugly but i beat paragon 3

[fierce light]

... this is only possible on Mouse and Keyboard. Can't disarm that quickly on controller afaik. https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1je2PYFEVD/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click&vd_source=e436bcf4333345077b464ebf0fc7cf19

[hearty rivet]

The burn damage coming from the lightning in the standard incin+ember hydroflare build, about how much % of the total damage is that?

[fierce light]

Hard to say. It does about half the damage of a Flaming Blade.

It's more important in a Skyfire build cause you're going to be activating it a lot more.

[hearty rivet]

Yeah was wondering if running incinerate build with some ice souljades would ruin it it or just lower the dps a bit.

[fierce light]

It'll be a negligible decrease

[hearty rivet]

Trying to decide which build I like and can play more on which hero. After seeing that super disrespectful matron-slapping kill video I realized that I play thunderscorch far from ideal 😓

[near echo]

does the counterattack jade that restores life still exist? I went looking on narakapedia and didn't find it and I also can't find some jades I had in my inventory

i only found defuse

[hidden creek]

still exist, called Sap
all weapons sap combined into one jade

[near echo]

thank god and ty

[timid stirrup]

does scorching get any benefit at +15 or is it hard capped at +12?

[buoyant lynx]

Hard capped +12

[fierce light]

Scorching +15 or higher would be absolutely game breaking if it worked.

[fierce light]

8 Speedruns is the limit for this quest:

[hidden creek]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-meme-gif-26978290

[fierce light]

What? Oh 12 Scorching lmao

[hidden creek]

12 scorchings

fkin hell

[woeful monolith]

you can get mod from that, every scorching I had to recast on my poison jades went straight to mod. I only get windfalls from initial rare

btw cant wait to see how fast this is going to get nuked
Thunder plasma going to make it proc stupid fast

[hidden creek]

i know i can get mod or windfall from that

[hidden creek]

divine thunder deal 0 dmg on thunderscorch build anyway

[limpid pecan]

clearing boss in 4-5 min using half-decent build is significantly easier than blasting boss in 1 min with best build

[woeful monolith]

Dumbest thing I have ever heard....

[limpid pecan]

yes because u never even used the build u complain about

so u know nothing about it

[woeful monolith]

I was leaning towards the plasma, I just couldnt hover over it without covering up the other omens.

[limpid pecan]

the only builds that have any risk involved are hydroflare and thunder scorch

due to running copper ward

but hydroflare clears fast anyway

maybe +50% longer

but still fast

[woeful monolith]

I have ran every build except ice

I dont want to use my Jades from Hydroflare so I dont use the Divine Scorch or w.e you call it. Not to mention I dont wanna use it because seems cheap and when it gets nerfed dont want my jades tied up in that.

[limpid pecan]

i mean thats my point exactly

the build is just hard to play

but u dont see it since u never played it

normal hydroflare is childs play

[woeful monolith]

I just told u i have played the build

My hydroflare has 12 scorching

[limpid pecan]

ye but its easy build to play

[woeful monolith]

I just didnt commit to it

[limpid pecan]

normal hydro

[woeful monolith]

I didnt wanna use the hydroflare jades to commit to divine scorching.....

[limpid pecan]

i mean u dont commit anything, just changing element

rest is exact same

[woeful monolith]

I dont know about you but I dont have infinite essence

to change 6 jades to frost

and then back again when i want

[limpid pecan]

u dont need to change

u can run 3 frost 3 thunder on hydro

it makes almost no difference

in dmg output

[woeful monolith]

...

[fierce light]

Thunder Plasma is actually bad for it. Cause it removes your Thundershock

[hidden creek]

yea lol

[fierce light]

3 Wielding just decreases your proc rate by <20%.

Not that big a difference.

[hidden creek]

thunder wielding on classic hydroflare is just for this potential

and even if you took away this potential entirely i doubt it'll make any difference

so on classic hydroflare wielding doesn't even matters

[woeful monolith]

mmmm?

[hidden creek]

?

[limpid pecan]

in skyfire build its a little more important to have 6x thunder

but in hydro its w/e

[untold marsh]

i get why you hate thunder scorch so much

you don't even understand the game

[hollow herald]

Yama's Abyss - Solar 1: monsters just don't die; they link together. What can I do?

[hidden creek]

read the omen bruh

[limpid pecan]

u need to kill the linked mobs in short succession

bring both to low hp and kill quickly both

[eternal torrent]

i got knocked outta top10 and cant get it back

we'll get them next time ig....

paragon lvls are unplayble for me, ominous is too fast for me, im washed

[woeful monolith]

Your saying Thunder Plasma is bad for Thunder Scorch build

You can pretty much jump into and get a counter off

[fierce light]

That's Divine Strikes

[limpid pecan]

thunder plasma also knocks u on floor if u deliberately stand in it

so u can parry once only

can be a little helpful but not too much

[eternal torrent]

^

like use it if you hit it by accident. i dont proc those intentionally

[woeful monolith]

It fills your meter up... but somehow its not helping you? When your goal is to get a Thunder counter / Scorching off on the boss.

Am I missing something here?

[limpid pecan]

it staggers u and puts u on floor which may kill u against eerie boss

u can get one scorch trigger from it

so it can be useful maybe when switching phase

[fierce light]

You'll take more damage than you'll usually take trying to proc from it

If you already had some charge, then it's just a detriment either way you look at it.

Cool Yoto strat though:

[woeful monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1266668634609025076/1280963315941507174/Clipchamp_14.mp4?ex=6708220d&is=6706d08d&hm=69af7e453c7ed3389600082d5f18f5e7183c4ff93ae91d0edf7c511fe5badebb&

[fierce light]

I messed it up, but yeah if you have a Scorching ready for that, it would be huge

Yeah it has Thunder Plasma, not Divine Strikes.

Death Spores going to make it pretty dangerous for Scorch build too if the fight lasts too long

[woeful monolith]

The video I linked above is t he same omen on paragon 4...

[woeful monolith]

exactly...

[fierce light]

That video is on the stage with both Thunder Plasma and Divine Strikes

[woeful monolith]

Yea t hats what got me mixed up

I apologize, thats on me

[agile marsh]

anyone tryna do showdown hard?

tired of waiting 20+ mins on for mfs

[fierce light]

Wow first event you can actually buy out.

[limpid pecan]

lmao

i got same number of baimin jades left

seems they are more generous with treasure choice gifts these days

[fierce light]

I've been opening my treasures every time I reach 100 f2p

[limpid pecan]

im slowly grinding towards zai extreme for kill effect imprint

these showdown events with 3x martial trial gifts are goated

[fierce light]

I wonder what happened to the update. Ik we got the last 1 a day early, but they pushed this one back a week?

Oh it's Golden Week.

[limpid pecan]

golden week?

the update was scheduled for today but idk

maybe its just a small patch like

400 mb or something

[fierce light]

China National Day is currently being celebrated. This holiday, also known as Golden Week, runs from October 1st to October 7th. It's a time when many people in China take a break to celebrate the founding of the People's Republic of China with various festivities and activities.

[limpid pecan]

the update is just some crappy event and a few skins

[fierce light]

Still curious if there's any changes

[limpid pecan]

if its going up tonight

then no changes

next week probably is real patch

[fierce light]

Well hope they don't push whatever is after Paragon 5 back

[thorn narwhal]

maybe it's preference but to me long fights i'll tend to make a mistake at some point that i won't be able to recover from
and i haven't got the chance to try scorch build myself but honestly i think its like u learn it once, get a good grasp on it then u are good to go after that i don't mind struggling abit at first then have an easier way later.
correct me if i'm wrong but realistically u are being cautious of your own build (ur own mistakes) as the boss is mostly inactive/locked into spawn animation u just kinda adapt with his transformation phases attacks and with some luck maybe that's it.

[fierce light]

Well there's a difference in that one mistake (mistiming your Thunder Counter while boss starts attacking/being at just low enough health to be one-shot) using Thunder Scorch will cause a death. While using other builds, you need to have 2-3+ mistakes in a row to die.

[thorn narwhal]

i get it it needs some luck with it too but still for 90% of cases like farming a 1 phase boss it saves so much time and effort so dangerousity of the build scales up with latest bosses

yes other builds tend to give u a room for 2 or 3 mistakes but tbf some bosses do follow up attacks that will count as mistakes while u are just staggered

[fierce light]

As far as bosses go though, you want to be using a Burn based build anyway. Their elemental thresholds are just much higher than the majority of mobs so your Elemental DPS suffers.

Aside from Standard Thunder build, but that one takes too long to get it's burst off unless you're Wuchen.

[thorn narwhal]

pretty much yeah

altho 2 bosses are annoying even for hydro

no idea why they give 1 easy speedrun and next week 10x the difficulty

[fierce light]

They alternate between a mobbing-based speedrun and boss-based one.

Wow Paragon 4 is rough for Thunder Scorch

[thorn narwhal]

they surely will revisit that hell-rock combo at probably last abyss stage whichever is gonna be after paragon

that was real hell

[fierce light]

Aureate attacks so much you can hardly get a Thunder Counter off. When you do, there's the Thunder Plasmas to avoid that can interrupt you at any moment and your health is draining from Death Spores.

[fierce light]

Fastest time I was able to manage. Wow this one is a pain for any Thunder Counter build.

[polar light]

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I think they partnered with plants vs zombies game

[fierce light]

Oh nice

Actually fitting skins

[heavy gulch]

https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1293268400390279168

[flint geyser]

Is it possible to reroll a rare attribute or do you just have to deal with what you get?

[short meadow]

which boss in paragon 4?

[hidden creek]

eerie hammer dude

[short meadow]

Just 2 phrase?

[hidden creek]

just 2

[short meadow]

Okhy

[fierce light]

You can roll for a rare as long as it's the only rare when it does roll.

• No rares on the Souljade; you have a chance to roll any attribute to a rare attribute.
• One rare on the Souljade; you have a chance of rolling a rare attribute ONLY if you reroll the pre-existing one.
• Two or more rares on the Souljade, you can only roll for rares using Flux Shards.

[flint geyser]

Oh, okay. So I can safely reroll this into windfall or moderation?

I don't really know what I am doing lol

I mean if I reroll it is it guaranteed to be another rare or do I have to start from scratch

[hidden creek]

if you reroll the scorching it is possible to get a windfall or a moderation

if you reroll other stats (while the jade still have the scorching), you cannot get another rare

[hidden creek]

not guarantee, rerolling a rare you have a chance for whatever
could get a rare, could get a normal attribute, value is random also

[flint geyser]

Oh, okay. Damn. That's tough.

Thanks

[hidden creek]

could even ended up with like 100+ recasts and gets nothing

all min stats

fuck this game

[flint geyser]

lmaoo

Good luck 🙏

[short meadow]

@fierce light @hidden creek is this good?

[hidden creek]

ehh

health kinda low

[short meadow]

yeah

should i pick or ignore?

[hidden creek]

i think you should keep the previous

[short meadow]

[hidden creek]

why are you rolling away the windfall anyway?

[short meadow]

I have 2 windall thats why

dark told me that i have to throw away 1

[hidden creek]

🤔

i mean, windfall is always good to have, the more the better
while scorching you just need 12

[fierce light]

Roll it for a max attribute, not for Attack specifically

More value from Windfall from having two good attributes than just one on the same Souljade.

In the case of that Souljade, it would be +7.5% Health (+4.5% Burn DMG) with 2 Windfalls or +6% Attack with 1 Windfall.

[short meadow]

gotcha

[hidden creek]

i still think rolling away that windfall is a bad move

should roll the scorching

but maybe just bcoz of me getting so many scorchings and no windfall and i have to fix the builds so many times cuz they exceeded 12 scorchings

[fierce light]

Yeah if they have more than 12 Scorching, should definitely roll that. But if not that would just set his build back

[short meadow]

Double fatigue + gold key

totally shit drop

[hidden creek]

same

[short meadow]

i have 12 on thunder scorching so cant throw scorching

[hidden creek]

first 600 fatigue of this week enigma with gold key + elixir

not even one match with more than 2 gold sj

[short meadow]

Even same drops on 9K enigma peak + gold key + double fatigue

[hidden creek]

bruh 9k luck is a scam

[short meadow]

fr

[hidden creek]

my 3k solo run drops better half of the time

so i'm not even bother running trio anymore

like

if you get good drop you get good drop and vice versa

that 6k luck means nothing

[short meadow]

Yeah

[untold marsh]

it very well does

[short meadow]

i think 9k divide on 3 players

[hidden creek]

lol

explain why i get this in 9k trios

and this on 3k solo

[untold marsh]

it's called luck for a reason

[hidden creek]

yeah exactly

[untold marsh]

we don't understand how it works but on +9000 luck most of your runs will yield more than 3k

[hidden creek]

i disagree but yeah sure you do you

[untold marsh]

oh ?

what is it you disagree with

[fierce light]

There's too much variance in the drops tbh

Should be a minimum and maximum with us having a fatigue system.

[fervent imp]

Can somebody pls give an advice on how to pass the Hard: Immovable level on the Morus isle?
My sense level is higher than recommended but the mobs just ignore me while atacking the althar and they kill it before i can kill all of them

[hidden creek]

get a proper build with proper stats

[whole pebble]

sorry, not sure if you responded to this but i want to know your opinion @fierce light . reason, i cant decide where I am going to use my red jade for 2nd rare stats.

[hidden creek]

i mean, no one use raging flame on this build

[whole pebble]

im probably the exception for that, but i did switch to incineration weeks ago lol

[fierce light]

Yeah Raging Flame is pretty meh. It does have one of the stronger Burns, but it only ends up going off every other Defuse at the most, every 3 Defuses on average.

There's also the added risk of setting off your Thunderpull while you're avoiding an attack chain.

[wind widget]

Can someone please help me with the race to get 3 stars or defeat the 9 bosses at the Enigma Peak? NA server. Pleaseeeee

[limpid pecan]

@fierce light whats the best way to get legendary keys for enigma?

[fierce light]

Dangers in the Deep.

[limpid pecan]

this is the the first fish map?

and whats so good about it in particular?

and does it matter what difficulty level?

[fierce light]

Can drop up to 2 keys

Believe the drop rate is a lot lower on lower difficulties

[limpid pecan]

ok

so farming this on nightscream

[whole pebble]

Didnt know this. Thank you

[subtle bramble]

Use the bells to check where the wave of enemies is coming from and try to kill as many before they reache the altar, then clear the ones around the altar

[drifting lance]

🎉 | neuropathxxx leveled up!

[subtle bramble]

And avoid the pendulums

I like poison storm wuchen on immovable

[signal kite]

[hard glade]

Nice emojis 😁

[limpid pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1175185005815803946.png?size=160&name=TessaGasm

actually i just realized

we have proof

there will be more after paragon 5

the fabled hero quest has 1 more stage after paragon 5

[hearty rivet]

tried to sy this yesterday 😓

[limpid pecan]

[fierce light]

Yea lol

[limpid pecan]

kinda wonder if its worth

to farm dangers in the deep

[fierce light]

I think some do it at 75%

[fierce light]

Wow I got a jade with a rare attribute to drop twice in a row!

[lucid ore]

Grats!

That's juicy

[fierce light]

Gave me an extra Windfall on my Thunder Scorch build, not bad.

[hearty rivet]

sometime I wish this game had proper camera control ^^;

[pearl raft]

did u increase the luck to get more chances ?

[fierce light]

Nothing aside from Legendary Rune Keys.

[thorn narwhal]

this is on current week?

why there's no obtainable red rank from showdown or am i missing one

[fierce light]

Wdym?

[untold marsh]

yes 9000 + 5000 from kurumi

[thorn narwhal]

kurumi gives luck?

[untold marsh]

luck jades

[fierce light]

They really need to explain what Luck does

[untold marsh]

or remove it

[vivid merlin]

I thought it only increases the rate of rare-gold drops.. Never noticed since I (if not most people) ever uses it.

[fierce light]

There's too much variance in the drops to really get a good read on what it does.

[storm lily]

anyone wanna help me do a few missions in the 1st area so i can progress

[hearty rivet]

how does one counter eerie hammer auerate's multihit instakill 2nd phase attack? When he does a spin around vertically and hits you like 4 times?

[sullen pawn]

Defuse cancel into defuse works as usual

[fierce light]

Timing is all I can say for that one

But yeah Defusing and using Dodges to cancel your Defuse when you're about to get hit helps.

[hearty rivet]

sad thing is that I don't see what's going on. He jumps out of my screen and then I hear the sound of 4 hits while Yoto flies away and dies :S

[vivid merlin]

Did they fix 4 arm and Viper's mom already? Or do they still can't be killed even at 1 health when they're in their animation.

[fierce light]

That's a thing for every boss, can't kill them during their Ultimate

[vivid merlin]

iirc, they can still be killed in other modes even at their ultimate.. So was just wondering why that isn't the case in every mode.

[hearty rivet]

yay for Wuchen and super safe skyfire build, Aureate ded 🫠

[fierce light]

Only if you down them during their Ultimate, will it let you kill them

[thorn narwhal]

think at this point my game is just broken or we playing 2 different games

all games full 9k with elixir

also done over 50+ runs on turmoil and still can't get the jade i want, in fact only got 2 common golden sj from all that

[timid stirrup]

got a free shard

[hidden creek]

this is how it this week looked like for me too

and i got another scorching on my poison build
and i used a flux shard to imbue a rare attribute and guess what i got

a scorching

then with like 150+ rerolls i couldn't even get that 2 scorchings into maxed attributes

0 progress this week

[thorn narwhal]

lmao

meanwhile i got 7 moderations on a row

[vivid merlin]

I'd rather spend fatigue on Enigma than nirriti, for better drops. Just having keys is the problem though, and some problematic random teammates.

[hidden creek]

generally speaking nirriti if you want crystals, enigma if you want fragments

but with the sj drop being this bad

i think i've been running nothing but enigma for a whole month already and my crystals is still plenty

9k elixir with 150% buff and i get 2 golds everytime

what a joke

[thorn narwhal]

seriously

and neither wasting 90 fatigue on nirrits just for 2 jades is ideal at all

[hidden creek]

and guess what, i got 2 golds too with 100% buff, brown key and no elixir

[thorn narwhal]

it's just broken and they not fixing it

[untold marsh]

with elixir ?

[hidden creek]

wait
is there a chance that this week elixir is bugged?

150% buff with elixir and we got only 11 jades per enigma run

usually with elixir we got lots more no?

[vivid merlin]

were you using gold key or just regular? the number of SJ drops also decreases when fatigue goes higher iirc.

[hidden creek]

gold key, with elixir and it's the first run of the week

and i got 11 jades

[vivid merlin]

also take into account the number of bossess killed..

[hidden creek]

bruh

[timid stirrup]

11 including blue jades?

[hidden creek]

i killed 9 bosses ok?

[hidden creek]

yes

[timid stirrup]

that doesnt sound right

damn

[hidden creek]

need someone with fresh fatigue and elixir to test

[vivid merlin]

Man, was just stating what's to be accounted for. Can't really make a conclusion unless I have all data, otherwise I'd be considered sh*tting in here.

[timid stirrup]

i just did with under 600 and gold key and elixir and got a number of gold and purple with a multitude of blue jades

in 1 run

thats actually when i got lucky and got a rare attribute on craftsmanship

[vivid merlin]

what the..

[timid stirrup]

this was on the 1st run of the elixir and there were 3 gold jades and at least 6 purple jades and then a number of blues. sorry i didnt count how many blues

[hidden creek]

so fkin weird

i only got 11 jades in total

with elixir

how tf

[timid stirrup]

a total of 11 jades sounds like u were at 75% fatigue when u clearly were at 150% bonus so it was backwards

[hidden creek]

not just this week, last week too

[timid stirrup]

damn sorry bro

[hidden creek]

trio 9k 150% with elixir

how

[timid stirrup]

oh shit exactly 11 jades

[hidden creek]

yes

[timid stirrup]

and trio

[hidden creek]

this is a run with the same settings, got better quality drop but still 11 jades

[timid stirrup]

mine were solos

thats 10 if u dont include the box/crystals

[hidden creek]

yeah box replace a jade slot so it's normal

but the thing is how tf i got elixir on but just 11 jades drop

[timid stirrup]

yeah somethings off

[hidden creek]

i always use elixir for first 600 fatigue on enigma with gold keys

so no chance i remember it wrong

[thorn narwhal]

yes 150%

[untold marsh]

you are not running elixir on this one

266 seasonpass xp vs 533 when you're running it

[thorn narwhal]

oh that's a different screenshot, still same rewards tho

that one was 9k 150% too

[hidden creek]

oh i think i get it now
it only shows 12 slots on the drop UI
doesn't mean that it's everything dropped on that run

[thorn narwhal]

ye u can scroll to the right

[hidden creek]

no you can't

if you could scroll it'll look like this

[thorn narwhal]

think got what u mean wrong

u mean they will drop more in your inventory out when u check it?

[hidden creek]

yea

[thorn narwhal]

than result screen

uh

maybe

need test

[hidden creek]

it should be true
cuz if it's just 12 drops per run there's no chance i could do that amount of basic convert

cuz it's 15 blue jades/1 time basic convert

sooo elixir worked, my luck just sucks

[thorn narwhal]

[hidden creek]

wonder if i got 2 gold jades per run with elixir, does that mean i was supposed to get 1 gold jade on that run

[thorn narwhal]

suppose so

[hidden creek]

kek

[thorn narwhal]

still too low for the 150% 9k part

[hidden creek]

yea

[thorn narwhal]

i think u might have gotten it wrong, currently i got 34 blues
matchs i played 3 enigmas with full values and 3 nirrits

1 nirrits was with elixir

hold on got more the ui is just weird there were more jades at bottom

need to freshly test it tomorrow

[white turret]

Hey how does 1 do a defuse attack or defuse counter or whatever its called? Keep seeing stuff about that but have no idea what it means.

Or how to do it

[thorn narwhal]

while u are charging with either left or right click the opposite button that will trigger it

depending on the character they have defuse counter after succeful defuse on left or right and attack that deals heavy damage to aegies

[white turret]

So use vertical attack while charging horizontal focus attack and vice versa?

[thorn narwhal]

ye

[white turret]

Ok thanks

[thorn narwhal]

np the timing needs practice so u might not get it at first tries

[white turret]

Oh ok is it like the spear combo where it has to precisely be on the 2nd stage focus

[thorn narwhal]

ye but the timming in this case is boss attacks if u defuse when he hits an attack it will activate

[white turret]

Oh ok

And thats a defuse counter

[thorn narwhal]

and neuturlize that attack then u can do the counter

[white turret]

Hmm ok

[hidden creek]

that's just a defuse
defuse counterattack is when you press rmb or lmb after a succesful deufuse, depends on the character

your character will do a gold focus attack

[white turret]

Im playstation

[hidden creek]

either horizontal or vertical attack

[white turret]

Oh ok so u do another 1 after the regular defuse

Ok

Seems cool

[thorn narwhal]

some characters have auto attack or counter like tarka and tainhai i think?

[hidden creek]

ah yeah

those 2 the counterattack are auto active

[white turret]

Oh so they do the counter without u having to press attack again?

[hidden creek]

yeah

[white turret]

Oh nice

[hidden creek]

in some situation it'll kill you if you weren't able to cancel the counterattack though

[white turret]

Thanks that was super helpful

[hidden creek]

[thorn narwhal]

yeah u sometimes want to defuse multiple times

[white turret]

Does defuse cost u anything?

Or can it be spammed if u keep timing it right?

[hidden creek]

for some character it cost you stamina

[white turret]

I see

As long as it doesn't cost me health or armor

[thorn narwhal]

learn the dash canceling to be able to do multiple defuses quickly

[white turret]

Are u talking about the movement where u use charge then dodge in quick succession to move faster?

[thorn narwhal]

kinda similar

u have to dodge back with a cancel when u are charging or defusing to quickly do another one

[white turret]

I see

Any of u on rn?

Naraka

[hidden creek]

boss attack, you defused that attack, now you have choices to make:

• input h/v attack so you throw out your counterattack
• hold dodge to cancel the end animation of the defuse state so you could defuse again, cuz bosses do combos and chain attacks

[thorn narwhal]

no

[white turret]

Ok

And can u only perform defuse against bosses normal attacks or focus attacks or both?

[hidden creek]

both

[white turret]

Oh sweet

[hidden creek]

you can defuse like, almost everything

[white turret]

Is there ever a need to parry then?

Can just defuse seems like

[hidden creek]

that's how it is last season lol

but this season it's diff

cuz scorching became so strong there're builds focused on parrying

[white turret]

I see

I haven't really gotten into my builds yet. I started naraka a month ago

Grinded the event hardcore and got myself up to 1016

[hidden creek]

yeah just play enough u'll know which situation to do what, defuse or parry or dodge

[white turret]

What souljade build would u recommend for a beginner?

[hidden creek]

check pinned on this channel

[white turret]

Which 1?

[hidden creek]

for current i'd recommend poison

easy to play, huge AOE, great aegis break

[white turret]

Theres 5 poison souljade builds it seems like

What 1 for beginner?

[thorn narwhal]

that's potiontal tree, check the pinned guide

has everything u want with builds

[white turret]

This

?

Has 5

[thorn narwhal]

these are the builds yes but more explained with better ui on the site

[white turret]

Oh ok

[thorn narwhal]

depends on which hero u prefere but fang works with most of them

[white turret]

So standard poison build?

Oh ok

[thorn narwhal]

the guide tells u which are good for which heroes and choose

[white turret]

Ok thanks

What can i put in defuse solidifications place? I dont seem to have it yet?

For poison fang

I have the rest of the build just not that 1

@thorn narwhal

[white turret]

@hidden creek

Also is there a guide somewhere that shows me where to get these souljades?

Dont know where id even get defuse solidification

[hidden creek]

can just check in game

[white turret]

So defuse solidification is still in game?

[hidden creek]

defuse solid would be autumn plain turmoil nightscream

[white turret]

Oh dang

[hidden creek]

hard too

[white turret]

Ty

Btw what can i put in defuse solidifications place until i get it? For the poison fang build?

[hidden creek]

generally jades that boost ur dmg or element accumulation rate

[white turret]

Ok

[hidden creek]

thunder mastery for example

[white turret]

Dang another 1 i dont have

[hidden creek]

yeah
u got lucky cuz there's the event so you could farm the poison jades

w/o that event you gonna need to do chapter 6 stages

which are not easy for beginner

[white turret]

Ye

The event helped me a ton

[hidden creek]

nirriti have the chance to drop all sj with the condition of you unlocked the stage that drop that sj

so my advice to you will be try to finish main stages

all the way to chap 6 nightscream

[white turret]

Ye guess I'll just slap on thundersword or something

[hidden creek]

well as long as it helps

[white turret]

So for poison fang build i gotta use horizontal charge attack right? For cyan fang souljade

[hidden creek]

no

cyan fang is the 123 attacks

[white turret]

So just uncharged?

[hidden creek]

yes

[white turret]

Ok

[hidden creek]

read the sj description

[white turret]

Thanks

Ye the description in game seems misleading

Guess ill use stormstride sword until i get defuse solidification since gonna be using uncharged attacks.

[hidden creek]

yeah

[limpid pecan]

hm im thinking last windfall in thunderscorch is rather low value

[drifting lance]

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[limpid pecan]

since we need one counter recovery

last windfall we gain 7.5% hp, 2% attack, but we have to swap out attack from other jade, losing 4% attack

so we just trade 2% attack for 7.5% hp

not really worth

im also thinking

if i get 5th scorching using flux shards

on 2nd rare

would it be better to keep it there and just reroll single scorching on another jade?

[timid stirrup]

If it were me i would rr the single scorching on the other jade

[limpid pecan]

ye thats what im thinking

to put on 2nd slot each try = getting lucky 2 times on crappy jade to deconstruct

if i roll the single jade each try = getting lucky 1 time

[timid stirrup]

wait... is the other jade in the build or just a random jade?

[fierce light]

For Souljades you haven't acquired before you can check the Narakapedia for them and it'll show you where they drop as well.

[fierce light]

Windfall has the same value regardless of the Souljade it's on. +2% Attack and +7.5% Health. Assuming you're aiming for 2 rares per Souljade.

[limpid pecan]

i was considering from point of resource efficiency

[fierce light]

I'd say it depends on the two jades. If they aren't core to the Thunder Scorch build, I'd aim for Windfalls on them more so (Core = Thunderpull, Thunder Counter, Thunderproof & Draco Stride).

[short meadow]

I was looking for windfall but this game is now giving me scorching 🙂 Now i have 7x3 scorching on thunder hydrofire

[timid stirrup]

i was looking for moderation and got 1 moderation 2 windfall and 1 scorching. so i have a wf/mod jade, 2 double wf jades, and a wf/scorching jade on my poison mod set. im currently sitting at 50% mod for the set

[fierce light]

It's fairly usable at 50%.

[timid stirrup]

yeah im hoping to get another moderation. currently farming the reqs 2 rr the solo scorching i have on miasma

[timid stirrup]

@fierce light was there any new attribute added to 2.0 in comparison from 1.5?

didnt think so thanx

[fierce light]

No, haven't had any new attributes added since they added Rare Attributes with the Recasting System

[timid stirrup]

i only ask cuz im trying to rr a scorching and while doing so if i happen to roll a max or near max attribute i wanna lock it and then continue rr until i get mod/wf

i happened to find ur spreadsheet that had all the 1.5 attributes and their max values so i wanted to make sure i wasn't missing something

thanx 4 all the research u do btw

[fierce light]

Oh okay, yeah

[timid stirrup]

I just completed an enigma with 150% drop and an elixir and got this. it looks like they changed the ui cuz the scroll bar is not there anymore but u can still scroll to the right. u prolly already figured this out but i wasnt gonna go and read to see if u did

[limpid pecan]

think the luck from chat spread to me

first rare this season from drop

[timid stirrup]

nice gratz

[fierce light]

Congrats! Maybe they decreased the drop rate, but increased the chance of a rare attribute.

[limpid pecan]

well that was fast

[thorn narwhal]

is the only reason to farm nirrit's nightscream the special drop since normal drops and the quantity look just the same

[fierce light]

If you're hoping for a drop from Nightscream missions mainly.

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[thorn narwhal]

is this the kurumi setup? u sure it does anything

@untold marsh

[untold marsh]

my kurumi runs 6*500 luck jades and afks ~5000 luck

it seems the best places to farms jades after 600 ftg is peak/ nightscream culmination

[limpid pecan]

she's slacking

3x windfall 500 luck on all jades

or go home

[untold marsh]

just 1

blessed gives 1000

[limpid pecan]

imagine she had 8500 * 1.2 luck

[untold marsh]

lol luck is a weird concept in the game not even sure that 5000 luck from kurumi is even worth it tbh

[limpid pecan]

maybe next season we get potential "gain 1% attack for each 10 luck"

[next turret]

anyone wanna do some trios in showdown?

[thorn narwhal]

specify the mode or mission u want and server in #🐲┃showdown-lfg

[thorn narwhal]

w/o lucky break since they got windful?

[next turret]

NA and buried giant

[thorn narwhal]

difficulty ?

[next turret]

normal

this map is so ass. i get hit by things that arent there, i throw the lightning bolt that shows up at the big ol head then i just drop to my doom, like?????? who designed this one???

[thorn narwhal]

lmao

[thorn narwhal]

it tends to be confusing at first but once u understand it its easy

[next turret]

well, im not getting it which is why im asking for help

[thorn narwhal]

send id, can join in abit

[tribal cove]

Hola

[thorn narwhal]

hello

[next turret]

ugh i beat it after the third try. im so annoyed.

dumb boss.

[thorn narwhal]

lol u can literally just afk it until lightning spear spawns

but wp!

[next turret]

seriously?!?!? i thought i needed to kill the little adds to get the lightning to show up

UGHHH

[thorn narwhal]

nope, all u can do is use ranged to damage his head for faster aegis break

[next turret]

T.T

[fierce light]

Killing the adds breaks his Aegis. Doesn't seem to be linked to the Spear spawn though.

[woeful monolith]

Buddy of mine got lucky drop from Doom this week ....define lucky?

[woeful monolith]

BRO what is going on, he just got this one as well

[copper summit]

uninstall him

he's cheating

hax

[neon brook]

how to get to the requirement of 18, i dont get it

[hidden creek]

click fire forge

[neon brook]

i dont get it, sry if i am dumb lol, but its just challenges

[hidden creek]

there's 24 attribute bonus levels (8x attack/health/armor), hover your mouse over the bar will show you the challenges that you need to complete to get them, currently you got 7, the stage you're selecting has a attribute bonus level recommended of 18

[fierce light]

Basically the more you play Nirriti's Ruins, the stronger you'll get.

[hidden creek]

though you don't really need to get to the recommended attribute bonus level to be able to clear the selected stage

but it's advised

[neon brook]

wow, thats a lot of grind hol crap

500 zones??

lmfao

[neon brook]

how badly will i be nerfed if i go in like this

[hidden creek]

not really

ppl been clearing legend (hardest difficulty) on release week

but it's not that easy either

[fierce light]

Yeah it's possible to clear it on the first day solo, but if you're a newer player I wouldn't recommend it.

Drop rate doesn't seem to be better

[limpid pecan]

wtf?

its just 100% rewards no elixir

[hidden creek]

😂 that's why i said it's all meaningless

[limpid pecan]

next one wtf

[fierce light]

Too much variance in the rewards for it to be a stamina based system tbh

[woeful monolith]

BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, im starting to think hes cheating lol . All jokes aside this is 3 rares from tonight. 2 were in a row and he just got this, all different modes as well. Doom, Enigma Topaz, and Nirriti Hard!

[short meadow]

@flat pier Everytime i play with tarka i get useless rock and red souljade

Atleast 3/5 matches

[sullen pawn]

how come you guys doing hard nirriti instead of normal

better drops there or am i missing something

[fierce light]

Normal seems to have a slightly worse rate, but there's really no telling with this game

[sullen pawn]

drops do feel like throwing a dnd dice

ill give hard a try aswell however

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[fierce light]

Oh forgot we didn't get an update this week

[rapid crag]

where do u guys farm after 600 fatigue?

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[still minnow]

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[steep patio]

What’s the average amount of recast needed for rare atrib

[fierce light]

~100 - 120

[steep patio]

So 200-240 crystals?

[fierce light]

Fragments, yeah

[hearty rivet]

RNG being rng I suppose, also I'm so jello cause had exactly 1 nirriti hard solo run with 3 gold (and 1 purple) souljade rewards in the past 4 weeks (at 100%, had another one with 4 gold at 150% tho), most of the time it is 0 or 1, rarely 2.

[dusk plover]

Is he a new player? If so I could definitely see them dropping lots of rares for them

[dusk plover]

Ain’t no way that’s the average 😭 I don’t get one until about 200+ recasts

[ebon parrot]

Lmao same

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[ebon parrot]

Ig we on the end of the spectrum

[timid stirrup]

i just did a nightscream niriti and didnt get any purple or legendary all blue

[fallen ridge]

Anyone down to help me get hard unmovable, I've been torturing myself trying it alone

Plsssssssss

Can't find any trios

[dusk plover]

They gotta balance it out somehow I guess, and we got the short stick 😭😭

[fierce light]

I haven't been tracking them but yeah on average it's usually close to 2 hard pities for me.

[untold marsh]

dangers in the deep

[scenic orbit]

anyone got a yoto potential build i can see 🙏

[hearty rivet]

For which souljade set?

[sullen pawn]

nirriti hard is way better, getting same ammount of jades as in enigma

[scenic orbit]

uh the poison one

[sullen pawn]

but more crystals, faster clear aswell

[hearty rivet]

I think the top or bottom right from the pinned poison builds are good for her if you don't use stormstride sword

[scenic orbit]

ty!

[woeful monolith]

Not new, but sense wasn't maxed

[restive wraith]

I'm here to not piss anyone off, in Nirriti's Ruins is ranged build bad? I have a dude literally blame me all game because I go for it

[short meadow]

Why are you going for ranged build? when this game isnt range based!

[restive wraith]

I never tried it... I want to unlock the dex for bonus stats

[short meadow]

Umm ok then it sounds good but if you want to deal more dame you have to pick hydrofire rings

[restive wraith]

imma search for that, still new with this... I just want to unlock things for stats tbh

[fierce light]

It's okay in the early levels with Cannon, but anything after Hard I wouldn't recommend it.

[restive wraith]

thank you, I was doing it in Hard, I will just tell my teammate first when we join I guess

never thought it can be that troublesome

[fierce light]

Should be able to tell at the end based on the damage dealt

[short meadow]

Just go for hydrofire .. you will see how strong it is

[restive wraith]

well this was the match

3rd guy is the one blaming me

[thorn narwhal]

and he dealt less dmg

[restive wraith]

yea....

but I hate ruined anyone's mood so I will throw ranged away after done with dex

or just pick up one or two for unlocking purpose

[thorn narwhal]

unless u are doing legend or nightscream do whatever u want it wont matter alot

[short meadow]

Do you know that this ring is so overpowered + flaming blade

[thorn narwhal]

but generally going for poison cannon is op

[restive wraith]

I never found this, loock hella good wth

[thorn narwhal]

u unlock it if your build is hydroflare focused

[short meadow]

you have to start with fire blessings

[thorn narwhal]

does the damage stack tho? with the build it gets spammed quite often

[short meadow]

Yeah if you get atomize + flaming blade its duo enough to finish every nritti boss easiil

[restive wraith]

Is it this one?

[short meadow]

Yeah alwys pick this rings

Unless you are farming ring collection

tarka/wuchan/tianhi/viper

[restive wraith]

yes sir

[fierce light]

Ranged on Kurumi (Crossbow)? Interesting.

[short meadow]

Also complete this fire forged for more Battle support

[short meadow]

Big L

[restive wraith]

hey the sound is hella funny

[fierce light]

I was saying it's decent with Cannon cause you can clear the mobs pretty quick, but Crossbow is pretty single target

[restive wraith]

yeaaaa I'm switching to pick up 2-3 random ranged one for dex and just melee now

that was a while ago

[west trellis]

I just started doing showdown a week ago and I noticed the most used build rn is the one with thunderpull, thunderproof, thunder counter, and dracostride with 12lv of scorching and some windfall etc etc

What I don't understand is why do the jades speedrunners use have ice-wielding instead of thunder or poison?

[thorn narwhal]

they go ice for faster thunder accumulation

[west trellis]

So lower thunder-wielding does give u faster accumulation
I had a hunch but the difference was either too subtle or not noticeable in my noobie eyes

I'm trying to go for that build since it's a boss melter but with only one week and some change I've got a long way to go
I ended up getting 2 lv3 scorching on first day but they aren't on the core jades for thunder-scorch
So I'm trying to balance doing good divine thunder damage while also doing good hydroflare damage once in a while
I'm on +4 thunder-wielding now but idk what'll be the sweet spot

[thorn narwhal]

that's a good start altho i wouldn't recommend going for such an end game build with just 1 week into the game, better take it by steps and learn normal builds first

[west trellis]

Yeah lol I'm thinking of going for the comfy poison build to get yama abyss done but I'll have to wait until next weekly reset cz I'm still on 980 sense level (currently stuck on astral 2 cz the bosses rarely do blue attacks for my counter reliant build on Feria )

[west trellis]

I also didn't realize how much investment was required to kill bosses in essentially 2 hits..

[thorn narwhal]

it takes very long time and investment maybe months, if u are unlucky like me its been 2-3 months and im just 30% in the build

[west trellis]

Oh damn

There I was thinking "im probably 1/8th of the way since I only need a couple of windfalls and 2 more scorching"
Little did I know I got way too lucky when recasting attributes

Oh and also
I still don't understand how sense lvl works
Does it carry over to the next season? Do we really have to grind sense level and maybe potential every season?

[thorn narwhal]

it seems like they are giving new players a luck boosting since these are very lucky max lvl rolls

sense resets every season ye, have to grind all of it again

[west trellis]

And potential too?

Cz that's even more annoying to grind

[thorn narwhal]

yes

[west trellis]

Well I guess if you already have an OP build, grinding isn't really grinding and more like busy work

[thorn narwhal]

yea they tend to finish grinding in like the first week

[west trellis]

The limited time event helped me a lot as a newcomer but it's weird we only had it for a week

Unless I was just late to the party

[thorn narwhal]

it was for 2 week if im not remembering wrong, it did indeed boost everyone

[west trellis]

Oh I could've had another week to grind

But yea showdown is a breath of fresh air
Compared to grinding for ranks every season with little to no change in gameplay, I can now aim to get my dream build and kill bosses in 2 hits like the gods

[thorn narwhal]

u are close enough max lvl is 1010

and yea goodluck achieving that glory

[west trellis]

Tysm
You've been very helpful
May u achieve that glory as well (preferably with the help of better luck this time around)

[thorn narwhal]

u're welcome

and thanks i would need it lol

[fierce light]

Divine Thunder DMG isn't the priority for it, you do a fraction of the damage the less Thunder-Wielding you have.

[west trellis]

Yea i noticed the damage difference that's why im trying to find the sweet spot with my wannabe-thunder-scorch-with-one-week-of-investment build lol

[fierce light]

But yeah I'd say for newbies, start with setting up a Poison build to farm fast with. Then a standard HydroFlare build to fight bosses with. From there you can port over half of the jades from it to the Thunder Scorch build.

I'd just recommend against using it till at least +9 Scorching. The performance is pretty bad otherwise.

[west trellis]

Hmm from this, +5 might just work for me

[west trellis]

Yea im probably doing like 1/10th of the average damage lol so im trying to supplement the damage im lacking with a ton of divine thunder dmg bonus attributes
But I can't get over how cool it is especially when doing counter into dash into neutral into counter when divine thunder builds up

[west trellis]

Oh and since we're on calculations
Do u have any more info about how much each lv scorching affects the burning damage?

Does it go exponentially higher? From say 6 to 9 and 9 to 12 or just linear

[agile marsh]

anyone tryna do some showdown or nah

[fierce light]

It's linear. +12 Scorching deals 2x the damage of +6 Scorching. Same for +6 and +3.

[hidden creek]

you shouldn't get divine thunder dmg on this build

cuz you gonna imbue the sj with ice so no thunder wielding so no divine thunder dmg

[west trellis]

Yep ideally that's what I need but it's still too early for me for the real thunder-scorch build

[hidden creek]

which is why you should just run poison or hydroflare

until you can afford the real thunderscorch build

[fierce light]

I'd strongly recommend just making a HydroFlare set (Defuse Flaming Blade, Defuse Raging Flame, Ember, Incineration, Draco Stride & Copper Ward). It works just off the Souljades themselves.

Cause you're just playing with the most difficult build in-game atm, without the pay off.

[west trellis]

Hydroflare huh
Interesting
How much better is it than poison?
My problem with poison builds is it's too comfy. You do big damage even if u're not paying attention to what you're doing
I prefer builds that are more.. intentional

[west trellis]

Funny thing is my potential tree isn't even complete as I'm missing the health to burning damage passive, so even hydroflare will probably do meh damage I think

[timid stirrup]

Potentials reset. Sense does not but was raised this season. Next season if they don't raise sense they might chop the sense somewhere. Max sense is 1030. Max dropped jade sense is 1010

[thorn narwhal]

raised=reset they render your old lvl useless

[timid stirrup]

Reset makes me think back down to 0

[thorn narwhal]

that's their weird way of doing it

[stoic heron]

Hey guys I am curious. Is there any site where i can see some of the trending souljade builds for Showdown?

[plucky fog]

mantab

poison lebih ez build n mainnya

[timid stirrup]

Check the pins for darkzero's site

[spice canyon]

Naraka in game has recommendation souljade button and it's pretty reliable, otherwise you can check pinned 📌 post in this channel (scroll down for website)

[neon brook]

what is the best way to farm fire forge in Nmitiri ruins

just doing the easiest difficulty?

i was able to clear nightscream without meeting the requirements of 18, but legend wont be easy

[fierce light]

It does more damage the more aggressive the boss is and how many defuses you can land. It's between Thunder Scorch and Poison build in damage versus bosses. The difficulty to use is somewhere between those two as well, just a matter of getting used to defusing constantly.

[fierce light]

It's just based on number of runs really, doing harder/longer stages will just make it take longer.

[fierce light]

Easiest and quickest way is to just check the Showdown leaderboard and see what the top players are using. There's also the Recommended tab in-game that shows the Player Favorites per hero.

[neon brook]

so i should just spam the easiest one right

[clear badger]

When checking leaderboard, i often see jades with extra skill (the red ones) like Windfall, Moderation, Scorching.. how do you get these on souljade? And how do you get souljade with 4 substats? Still kinda new to showdown, slowly building my poison build, but dunno if its valuable to keep upgrading what I have (got Nox Blast, Inf. Touch and Pestilent pool from random legend souljade gift) or just wait to replace it once I unlock it through nightscream as drop.

[fierce light]

The Suffer No Demon mission allowed you to farm all the core Souljades for the Poison build. I'd say it's the 3rd best build in-game at the moment. It's beat by Hydroflare and Thunder Scorch against bosses though. It's a good build to start with, but eventually want to branch into a Burn-based build.

[hidden creek]

suffer no more demon

[clear badger]

I wasnt playing Naraka or showdown for some time, so catched only 3 days of it and got only what i listed (better than.nothing i guess). Im only at 851 sense now with not yet cleared the basic mode.
Currently farming Nirriti to get enough forge level to challenge its Nightscream difficulty and level my sense up.
Is it worth to level now or better to finish the story mode 1st?
Because i dont know if and how to get the red skills on jades or how to get ones with 4 substats.

[fierce light]

You can pretty much farm Nirriti to max Sense Level.

Although I'd recommend switching to Enigma Domain when you're strong enough

[clear badger]

Ok, will do

[clear badger]

I would like to, but says i need to clear toppled mountains first. Which can make a while because im stuck at Immovable Nightscream rn.. always getting overwhelmed on last wave 😦

[fierce light]

Ah I gotcha

[restive wraith]

Is Matari have too little player? I randomly got these

is she bad or smt? or just hard to execute?

[fierce light]

She's pretty bad. Relies on her build to carry her and some niche tricks to do any good with her.

[restive wraith]

man... I like her defuse too much

[west trellis]

neat!
i haven't seen anyone use it but i might give it a try since i already have all the building blocks for the build

[fierce light]

It was pretty much the meta build last season, it's just that they buffed Scorching so much that it's become stronger than it

[hearty rivet]

I'm kinda disappointed with RNG of this game sometimes. 3rd column is how many golden jades I've seen since I entered 100% range this week 😩

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Ardiehime leveled up!

[agile marsh]

yo who tryna grind showdown im on hard rn

[drifting lance]

🎉 | _.nizzy™ leveled up!
ℹ | Level up messages can be disabled for the guild with owo level disabletext

[agile marsh]

Expected lowk

[fierce light]

I'd recommend #🐲┃showdown-lfg

[agile marsh]

Okay

[dusk plover]

Looks about right 😓

[west trellis]

im inching closer and closer toward my goal

[thorn narwhal]

damn u already passed my progress
nice tho i'd say its ussable with 9 since 12 is the max u can get

[thorn narwhal]

ImbaSkillz — 09/30/2024 2:03 PM
first rare u can get just recasting attribute, to put more rares on jades which already have one rare u need flux shards
u can get 1 big one from yama getting paragon rank, 1 from 1000 points in season challenge and 1 from BP last lvl
if u deconstruct jade with rare attribute u get 1 small shard for each rare attrib
2 small shards or 1 big one can add rare attribute to any jade
even if it has one rare already
scorching deals very big burn damage if u parry successfully
moderation reduces ur skill cooldown when triggering elemental blast
and windfall adds up to 50% to stat values on ur other stats on that jade
so if u have 50% windfall, 4% attack and 12% hp its same as 6% attack 18% hp
the only way to farm flux shards is to recast stats on jades then deconstruct them
so if u need to add 2nd rare
u should recast bad jades until u get rare then deconstruct them
there is also very small chance to get rare attribute on jade from drops

this is for adding 4th attribute

[restive wraith]

will I get penalty by leaving a game? I keep queuing with a person (bot) that afk

Nirriti's Ruins run btw

[spice canyon]

No in showdown

[restive wraith]

ty time to get out

[amber terrace]

[sleek coral]

Gelid yushan hard lfg anyone?

[hidden field]

Doom runs anyone?

[civic anvil]

I need speed run nightscream all quests

Who can help me?

[woven tapir]

Yeah come

[hollow herald]

Is there anything I can equip/do to reduce the damage from the thunder shock of the omens? (Yama's solar 2)

[fierce light]

Not really. More Thunder-Wielding would slow it's accumulation rate though.

[hushed rock]

do i keep this or try to go for a new one?

and here ill just reroll the skill cooldown for a rare one correct?

[solid rock]

If im not mistaken, you cannot achieve a 2nd rare attribute by rerolling. Only flux jades can.

[solid rock]

And this one is going to consume an insane amount of consumables to get the stats maxed, DMG to boss and attack only at 20% of their respective maximum stat values. Would be wiser to farm for a new one 🙂

[fierce light]

Yeah 20% is the smallest roll you can get and it has two of them, that's rough.

[hushed rock]

hmm okay well then id try for a new one

ty

[hushed rock]

oooh thats why i didnt get one after rerolling like 200 times

[fierce light]

Not a bad drop. Especially with me being at 75% rewards.

[hearty rivet]

Lucky~! I still haven't had such drop since my 150% range this week 😓

[woeful monolith]

Recasted Stormstride Sword over 120 times to get this Moderation off and get Windfall....Nope gives me a scorching.....this system is dumb.
Copper Ward gives me Moderation, been recasting it over 100 times ...literally to the point where I have no mats and farming feels useless .
One enigma I get crazy ammount of Yellow and Purple Jades and next I get only blues....

[fierce light]

Yeah it's a really painful system

For rare attributes that are either only good for 1 or 2 Heroes (Moderation) or only good in 1 or 2 builds (Scorching). It makes it painful to build for anyone else.

[vivid merlin]

True. I was farming since before the new Showdown, and only got 2 Moderation on 2 SJ's that isn't even applicable to more than 2 characters.

[hearty rivet]

Yeah my ember sj had moderation (20%). It recasted to moderation (15%) then at least got a near 100% nonrare from it before moving to the 4th, still low-ish stat, which recasted to.... moderation 20% 😅

[woeful monolith]

Windfalls are hardest for me to get

[fierce light]

Ah they made the spear generate with kills

[rotund quest]

how do we acquire Inferno Hero and Useless rock secrfet anima?

[subtle bramble]

play with one of the heros that have weapons with red jades (so longsword, greatsword, dagger, dual blades)

aside from that is just luck, make sure to grab useless rock if you see it because that unlocks inferno

[rotund quest]

wat is inferno?

[subtle bramble]

I meant to type Inferno hero, sorry I sent the message too soon 😭

[rotund quest]

I see

thank you !

[restive wraith]

Is "secret" count as one Collection type? The one you get from green scroll randomly

[fierce light]

Yes

[limpid pecan]

the elemental blessing u get at start seems to count too

but not sure if it counts as elemental too or entirely another category

[restive wraith]

thank guys, I think both elemental and secret messed it up

imma try it again after maintain

[short meadow]

I would be better if you play kurumi role and ask carry from your friends . you have to pick just 1/2 rings

[restive wraith]

yea that's a good idea, I wont need to risk random ring in shop too

[fierce light]

Not being able to abandon Anima Rings makes it so much harder to do

[fierce light]

Whoa, I think it's the first time we've had this as the Speedrun

[tough falcon]

Can someone inv me to like a nightscream or something so I can level my sense up faster or do that not work like that ?

[fierce light]

Doesn't work like that, the drops are based on your level + how many missions you've cleared

[tough falcon]

Oh ok

[timid stirrup]

is there maintenance 2nite?

[tough falcon]

Ye

[tough falcon]

Anyone wanna help me speed through hard mode rq ?

im a rank player so I haven’t played showdown like that

[timid stirrup]

is that in 1h20m? it looks like 1h20m from now but i could b wrong

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Yang leveled up!
ℹ | Level up messages can be disabled for the guild with owo level disabletext

[untold marsh]

farm peak

[fierce light]

It's in your time zone

[ebon parrot]

😢

first recast this wek

yay max mod but on draco????

[woeful monolith]

Everyone getting a slight form of Mod this week I guess

[woeful monolith]

What build are you using to want Mod on Draco, just curious?

[limpid pecan]

thats the point, he is sad

to get worst attribute

on draco

[timid stirrup]

no more rng spear spawns for Buried Giant stage

[fierce light]

Done with Nirriti's Ruins quests

[fierce light]

Dunno why they thought that was a good idea anyway. Especially if it can be in Speedrun.

[timid stirrup]

fuck!!!!!! i got scorching and didnt get to confirm cuz of maintenance

[fierce light]

It should pop up when you log back in.

Crazy %'s on that Souljade though. You increased them before going for a Rare?

[woeful monolith]

All max stats but then your Scorching is Level 1? Game make no Sense Derp!

[fierce light]

Yup random value getting it and random value getting rid of it.

[timid stirrup]

i got scorching 2x on the jade already. each time i converted scorching into a 100% stat. hence the 2x 100% stats

gonna do it again n pray i get wf/mod on the 4th rare

[fierce light]

Very nice

The one pay off of getting the wrong Rare Attribute

[timid stirrup]

my poison mod set is looking very clean rn minus the scorchings

luckily most of my poison jades have wf so it works for all poison builds across all heroes

2x wf/wf and 1 wf/mod

[fierce light]

Yeah it helps that you don't really need to max Moderation for Poison.

[timid stirrup]

im currently @50% mod

[fierce light]

Yeah 50%, puts you at 10s cooldown. Viper rotation is around 8-9s, so it lines up quite well when accounting for dodging and stuff.

75% is more comfortable for mobbing.

[timid stirrup]

im hoping my miasma drive gets wf cuz i wanna put moderation on my arcane thunder

[vivid merlin]

Seems Moderation has a higher probability.. Scorching would've been perfect.

[river stratus]

another 5 stages

[short meadow]

I think it will go as far as peragon 15/20

They are giving +1 stage each week

[fierce light]

That's lame, thought there was going to be a new rank

[short meadow]

What boss in peragon 5?

[fierce light]

Wonder what's in store after Paragon 7

[fierce light]

Haven't gotten on yet

[river stratus]

fiery monster + axe boss + mobs

[short meadow]

Sounds easier than peragon 4

[fierce light]

Oh they're bringing in the mini bosses. Eerie form?

[short meadow]

Nope mybe normal

[river stratus]

nope

[short meadow]

Hard? oh no

[river stratus]

yes normal form

[hearty rivet]

And I was preparing myself for eerie Korven or eerie dragon 🫠

[ebon parrot]

o yea so guys, should i try to reroll this into a max stat non rare attribute and then try for scorching again?

[fierce light]

Max, cause your Attack and DMG to Boss are both below 75%.

If you get the rare you want though, keep it of course.

[ebon parrot]

Ok cuz I was thinking of rerolling that into attack, and then trying to roll whatever is lowest percentage to a rare

[fierce light]

Lot less annoying than Paragon 4 was imo

[river stratus]

poison storm?

wait i see the time now thunder scorch 😂

[timid stirrup]

u would need to rr it into a different max stat 1st then change ur current atk stat into something else b4 u can make it a max atk stat. im pretty sure u know this just wanted to make sure

[fierce light]

Poison could work out here, just have to make sure to get your Poison Blasts on different cooldowns per enemy to maximize the Toxin Blasts.

[timid stirrup]

is the 2 bosses and the mobs at the same time or mobs then bosses?

[surreal saffron]

starts with mountain ghost and 2 mobs, after a bit, the fiery ghost will spawn regardless if you have kill everything or not

[fierce light]

1st Wave

• x1 Mountain Ghost
• x2 Hammer Ents
  2nd Wave
• x1 Fiery Monster
• x2 Spawn-type Ents

[timid stirrup]

Nice. Interestingly I was prepping for water bosses

[safe seal]

Will the other characters come to showdown also?

[hearty rivet]

Probs we get one more next season

[fierce light]

They add them slowly

[tribal venture]

guys is there any guide on a proper jade setup for yoto or kuwumi?

[fierce light]

Comprehensive Showdown Guide

Made By: @fierce light

[fierce light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpNJniXE_SI

[fierce light]

Omnious Void/Vortex/Beast coming in Paragon 6:

[fiery light]

When we will get Other Chars in showdown aswell? Is there a Plan for it?

[fierce light]

Every season they add 1. It's pretty slow.

[fiery light]

😭

[fierce light]

This season isn't as long though thankfully.

[fiery light]

Do we know what comes next?

[misty bridge]

Why taking rage/sec instead of rage/dmg?

Is something in particular you choose that path?

[fierce light]

Not really. Yoto Hime threw pretty much every theory out the window.

[fiery light]

sadge .(

[fierce light]

Mainly just replaced Divine Spirit with 1/5 Healing. Haven't done any extensive testing on it.

My ultimate comes up like every 3rd Thunder Counter

[timid igloo]

yo quick question, is it worth to continue upgrading a burn build or just use it until i got a proper thunder scorch set up, cause i see like 95% of ppl on the leaderboards running it

[limpid pecan]

burn build shares 3 jades with thunderscorch so u could focus mostly on improving these 3 shared with thunderscorch

[fierce light]

Alright I did the math on it:

• Base Rage/s = 0.3% of Max Rage per second.

• 5/5 Rage/s Node = +0.1% of Max Rage per second.

• Aerial Rend (1st Charge) = ~5.71% of Max Rage

• • ~2.76% of Max Rage per second.

• 5/5 Rage/DMG Node = +0.29% of Max Rage

• • ~+0.14% of Max Rage per second.

For non-Thunder elemental builds, Rage/DMG is likely the best choice since you're constantly attacking whenever you can. But for Hydroflare and Thunder builds you're likely to delay attacks to not set off Thunder Counter and Burn doesn't contribute to Rage/DMG.

[misty bridge]

Ok so if you attack constantly is better to have rage/dmg instead of per sec

[timid igloo]

cheers, I'll try to do so

[sullen pawn]

that vortex summon omen sounds pretty cool

as long as ya dont kill the boss before he even does it

[fierce light]

Vortex can only be active once though, which is wierd that they worded it that way. Beast is the one that can repeatedly resurrect if you don't kill Void fast enough.

[hearty rivet]

Ohhhhh vortex, the blue ball Omnius, not vortex the tornado ability of Omnius dragon.

[hearty rivet]

Sorry, noob question, how did you avoid getting rooted at 2:27? 👀

[fierce light]

As long as you're in any Focus State, you're immune to the root.

Oh

I got Void and Vortex mixed up

[sullen pawn]

with fiery monster and mobs paragon 5 is the worst so far, to the surprise of absolutely no one <_<

annoying af

[hearty rivet]

wow, thank you 🤯

[timid stirrup]

i found it easier to kill the mobs first while doing dmg to the boss

[sullen pawn]

i mean ye its a pretty easy stage

just annoying

[tough falcon]

Is anyone down to help me speed through hard my sense only 759 rn im just tryna get better souljades yo upgrade but some is hard to farm solo since it’s low

[fervent imp]

is it possible to get the 3 stars here solo? my sense lvl is 896 and even tho recommended is only 800 i'm BARELY dealing any damage to basic monsters
i only want the skin from the quests, what should i do to get the stars here?

[fierce light]

Queues are probably still popping for it right now since it reset yesterday and there was a maintenance.

[fervent imp]

oh yeah today i was in a 20 mins queue for this mode and kinda gave up

[drifting lance]

🎉 | лесо4ка leveled up!
ℹ | Level up messages can be disabled for the guild with owo level disabletext

[west trellis]

[peak finch]

What is the ice meta build for viper?

[hearty rivet]

I think the 100% moderation build with incinerate and arcane thunder

[fierce light]

Still Ice Mod.

[fierce light]

Weird, that's unfortunate

[peak finch]

I know, i am asking about the souljades

[ebon parrot]

Go to pins

#👾┃showdown message

This one

[peak finch]

Thanks

[woeful monolith]

Ya Thunder Scorching is definetly not broken ||Fix your game Naraka holy hell|| The hardest Yama level Paragon 5 is being done in 30-45 seconds with the majority under a minute with this dumbass build.
While any other build is 2-4 times longer . Dumb. If I hear one more person coping about this build being so hard when you have the Quick restart option and your boss fights are under a minute!

Just Nerf either Scorching Damage overall, make a Diminishing Return on Scorching or even nerf the interaction with Scorching off a Thunder Counter ...
Not saying nerf it into the ground but you shouldn't be able to 2 tap bosses or instantly force the boss into the next phase especially when the boss just stand there for about 5 to 6 seconds allowing you to get a Scorch Counter off before the boss has even tried to attack.
I know everyone invested all their time and mats into these jades but this just makes the game unrealistic to compete against this build and gives no motivation to the average player to even try because your forced to run this build to even compete with times.

[untold marsh]

nice

so you're just mad you invested every dime on poison instead on the meta build ?