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[humble flare]

@twin ledge

[twin ledge]

I Found it

[fierce light]

Ice Mod?

[twin ledge]

Trying to

Or he is

[hearty rivet]

I'm not sure what I'm doing worng but my Matari doesn't poison the bosses at all. Using the cyan fang+solidification build

ok, she does at least in nightscream just takes a couple of cyanfang hits

[lucid ore]

Watching this clear make me not want to play this season anymore

[hearty rivet]

wdym this is a perfectly balanced game 😔

[fierce light]

Vertical - Horizontal - Horizontal or
Vertical - Vertical - Horizontal

Should take 3 of those to proc Poison Blast, with the 4th procing Toxin Blast. Assuming you have Hydro's Bound equipped.

[hearty rivet]

yeah I have that but it's kinda ridiculous how big the difference is between various heroes' proc rate :(

[fierce light]

Can blame that on the weapon imbalance

[hearty rivet]

Well, they fixed defuse solve, kinda, so maybe next season they'll fix this too, along with other glaring issues

[fierce light]

While it would be just changing one value per attack, it'd be pretty difficult to balance them. Some attacks high really great AoE, where others don't. Some long animations, some short, etc.

[flat pier]

wow.....

this is easier watched than done. I have 12 scorching but still unable to finish this fast. still though, Now I know what I am doing wrong. I should just completely ignore the stone monster. I don't need to counter all 4 thunder bolts. Something new, I learnt today.. thank you 😄

i have 15 scorching but well, no resources to rectify the situation yet xD

ok.. but i think it is not true. You can definitely build that in less than a month, provided you have to use all seasonal rewards to do that. and then take another 2/3 weeks to perfect it.

2400 fatigue and all i got was 2 shrouded jades.. wtf!!

[twin ledge]

If u can build that in a month off scratch ur cheating

First off read what was all said first

Said it wasn’t hard to get the scorching but the other stats that will put u up with the top players ur not getting it like that if ur new

[fathom bobcat]

That's right. Need bunch more windfall and +15% to health on every jade. And that takes a lot of time, not a month or two.

Btw i haven't got good poison mod in month. I have all jades, but two of them have no rare stats and all stats are mediocre. That said, I have 2000 - 2400 fatigue spent every week.
In general, I have couple of red gems, but I don't think it's necessary to put them on jades without rare stats.

[fierce light]

https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1289794313772859465

[fathom bobcat]

Yeah, we need elemental accumulation. Rare stats or not, just need.

[flat pier]

hey no need to get your panties in a bunch. You stated what you thought and I did the same. We're all having a discussion here.
I did not say you were wrong. And I did read what you said and you said, "They could but won’t get the amount of rares"
I have not been a consistent player and this is the first season, I've even played seriously and still learning a lot of things and wasted like over a ton of recast jades, flux shards, flux jades and still I've managed to get a skyfire which i deconstructed, then went for hydroflare and then I went for thunder scorch and poison.
My health and attack stats are extremely bad, but I've managed to get scorching and windfall in all the jades. I maybe extremely lucky but there was no cheating involved.
And if a noob like me who didn't even know how the recast works, (I didn't even know 1st rare can be obtained through recast until @hidden creek told me, I didn't know second rare can't be obtained from recasting, I didn't know i needed good stats as a base to recast into rare), could get a whole set up to a less than mediocre level 3 weeks after the start of a season with no hoarding from the previous season, it is safe to assume, experts could manage it.
And I am just giving my opinion, could be wrong. But that's how i feel.
Even then, having good jades doesn't translate to being a good player either...
I don't even know how to defuse properly with all the heroes yet.

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Vang GummyBear leveled up!

[twin ledge]

Didn’t ask for a essay

[flat pier]

peachy

[flat pier]

Wouldn't arcana make the thunder scorch build stronger as it will proc more chances for counter?

scorching 8 and 12 would make that huge a difference?

[thorn narwhal]

ikr, meanwhile i'm casting about the 200th time and still no rare and feel stuck in the same place
maybe suggest me which build is the best as a base dmg so i can progress a little

[fierce light]

It wouldn't affect the player

[flat pier]

ahhh i see

so only ice blasts and poison blasts will proc more

[fierce light]

Yeah and Divine Thunder

[fierce light]

Scorching 8 puts it around 4x the burn from Defuse Flaming Blade. It feels pretty balanced at that amount. Strong, but not overwhelming.

[flat pier]

I have been able to farm nirriti nightscream and enigma topaz very comfortably with poison build with 0 rare stats, and I use the materials i get from farming for the scorching build. so if you're new like me, get poison fang build from @fierce light it allows you to do everything showdown has to offer except topping the leaderboards.

here

[thorn narwhal]

alr thanks, still missing few jades but will try it as i get the chance

but how's it compared to hydroflare

[flat pier]

yama abyss and some speedrun where it is about bosses, then hydroflare or thunder scorch is better at both damage and time taken to clear.
poison can still do it but takes a longer time.
enigma farming, personally, i think poison is faster.
also, with cyan fang-poison, you don't have to worry about dying, you can make a lot of mistakes..

[thorn narwhal]

great!

[fathom bobcat]

Only cyan fang is bad in trio when it comes to bosses, especially at top of Enigma. But in general, if we talk about the same trios, poison is great addition to hydrofalre and even more so to thunder hydroflare, especially on bosses like toad or dragon.

But in solo I agree, it looks good on Viper.

[flat pier]

what is a good strategy for speedrun this week?

[thorn narwhal]

what should i pick if i go trio then

@hidden creek where's ur 5 min enigma clear vid

[fathom bobcat]

We used to go like this: three players on poison or thunder hydrofalre, strongest runs to one point, other two to another. When duo has less than half of mobs left, one runs to third point, second one joins him later, and strongest one is already preparing to open gate to boss. Or something like that.

Ideally, of course, we'd have all three clearing points individually, but we didn't have the survivability to do that.

[fathom bobcat]

Our trio consisted mainly of Viper on poison mod, Wuchen on poison, and Tarka on hydroflare/thunder hydroflare.

Problem with cyan fang is that you close in on boss at point-blank range and become vulnerable to his attacks while performing jade strike. This isn't critical with a solo, when aegis breaks very quickly, but in trio it's not so easy, especially if it's Peak and damn boss helicopter.

[balmy ruin]

im stuck on doing immovable on hard any tips on progressing

[thorn narwhal]

got it thanks

[thorn narwhal]

just farm ur lvl from new event u'll get throu hard easily

[balmy ruin]

the challenge one or normal?

[thorn narwhal]

challenge

[balmy ruin]

im only getting like 4 soul jades?

[wintry prairie]

does someone have a SS with all the nirriti's ruins collection secrets? I miss one and idk wath it is

[normal socket]

hey can someone tell me what should i put my potential points onto?

[proud karma]

where can I get good build guide. or any site to check build?

[normal socket]

@fierce light @flat pier how hard is it to recast scorch/windfall

[warped falcon]

I’m using this made by dark zero

[flat pier]

If it is your first rare stat on a souljade, average recast of 75 times to land a rare. But could be anything from scorching, moderation to windfall.

[flat pier]

Check the pins for potential plans that suit your build

[normal socket]

thanks, appreciate it

[flat pier]

The second rare can only come from using flux jade or flux shards

[normal socket]

oh

i havent gotten a single rare yet and i think i did 100 recasts LMAO

[proud karma]

what are rare (Im new)

[flat pier]

Yeah. Same, sometimes it goes up to 130+ but sometimes you get it in like 10.... average around 75 but could be higher. Ive never had 150 though

[flat pier]

Scorching
Moderation
Windfall
In souljades

[flat pier]

That's a perfect jade

[normal socket]

yeah ik

[proud karma]

oh

i c

[flat pier]

I want that jade

Hehehe

[normal socket]

ive been trynna roll to get these rare attributes on mine but no rng

[flat pier]

I found out from tabbies the other day that you have to recast jades that have high stat value originally

Just sharing... maybe you already know

[proud karma]

i have so much of those shit, and have no idea what to use it on

[flat pier]

Recasting value costs more resources than recasting attribute

[flat pier]

Nice. I don't have enough XD

[hidden creek]

wot

[thorn narwhal]

haven't u posted an enigma clear before or that wasn't u

[hidden creek]

Not me

[flint geyser]

hey guys, does progression (such as soul jade levels) reset when a new season comes? Or do I get to carry over my progress?

[flat pier]

you keep your progress but you still have to grind back because new season brings higher souljade power

season 0, new player start at ~0 sense lvl, max ~520

current season, new player start at 700, old players keep their max sense lvl of 780 from previous season, max is 1030

[flint geyser]

ahh, that makes sense. Thanks!

[timid stirrup]

U don't keep ur potential points tho. U gotta farm that back

[ebon parrot]

Rares have an equal smt of chance of appearing right?

Like scorching and windfall appearance % is the same

[short meadow]

Which map is best for farming sense currently Im at sense 1017

@fierce light its still enigma right?

[fierce light]

Yeah fatigue wise, although I think Suffer No Demon might be the most time efficient.

[short meadow]

my fatigue is 0/2400 now

[fierce light]

Yeah then you'd want to start with Enigma.

[short meadow]

Okhyyy

[thorny bay]

can you not get rare substats after recasting now?

[hallow igloo]

what is the fastest way to lvl your sense lvl? when i do missions my souljades only seem to increase by 1 or 2 lvls

[thorny bay]

nirrity

or topaz

[proud karma]

whats topaz

[jade prism]

Hello, can someone help me here T_T

[round glacier]

New limited event on challenge

Drops upto 1010 sense

Takes a minute to a minute 30 if you lucky with teammates

Just upgrade 1 jade till max level drop lol

After that all drops will be at max level and then use that to upgrade the rest

[steep patio]

Enigma

But if your mostly new do nitrita hard

[ebon parrot]

O yea for the new event

Does the monsters scale with ur sense level

[jade prism]

hello can someone help me normal Matron of yueshan ?

[ebon parrot]

U should try the showdown lfg channel

Finding a team in game is gonna take ages

#🐲┃showdown-lfg

Here^

[jade prism]

Thank you

[ebon parrot]

O yea preferably add ur server and ID

Just to make the process faster

[jade prism]

so hard to find T_T

[normal socket]

@fierce light what do you think is the percentage of getting the rare attribute so I don’t lose hope after 100+ attempts 🤣

[flat pier]

SEA?

[fierce light]

I haven't started recording it yet.
Somewhere between two hard pities (60 - 120).

[normal socket]

Ouch

[proud karma]

whats this for?

[humble flare]

Ty brother

[ebon parrot]

Open an extra attribute slot

Usually u have to recast for a chance to open a new slot

And I believe 50 recasts gives u a guarantee open new slot

But by using 3 of this, automatic open new slot

[humble flare]

Trying for moderation but which one is better until I get it

[ebon parrot]

Ice blast is better

Ur running mod viper

Right

[humble flare]

Ty sir

This is feria

[ebon parrot]

Like the one with successive ice blast

O wait

[humble flare]

Yes I'm running successive

[ebon parrot]

Ok then yea

Ice blast

I would recommend rolling ur charges attack dmg, but I assume ur rolling ice blast cuz of the high stats?

[humble flare]

Took a yr off of showdown I'm a noob now

[ebon parrot]

So u get a high mid

Mod*

[ebon parrot]

It’s ok me too I started like last season

Pretty quick to grasp ngl

[humble flare]

So roll charged for moderation?

[hidden creek]

not anymore

[ebon parrot]

Nuuuuuu

[ebon parrot]

?

Sry didn’t understand

O wait

[humble flare]

Which should I be replacing with moderation

[ebon parrot]

Now I understand

[hidden creek]

whatever with lowest %

[ebon parrot]

Yea I would roll charge for mod just cuz for mod ice that isn’t that important

[hidden creek]

if you're rolling for a rare attribute

just roll the opt that is lowest

[ebon parrot]

Wait tabbie, question. If I got like 29/30 ice blast and roll for mod, will I get 25 mod or will it round down

[hidden creek]

random

that's why you roll the lowest % attribute when ur goal is a rare attribute

[ebon parrot]

Ah

Well now I know :D

Less decisions for me to consider

Yay

[hidden creek]

this jade is already a bad choice though

only 1 stat with high %

ideally when you want a rare attribute on a jade, choose a jade with at least 2 max (or close to max) attributes to begin with

[humble flare]

Hmm I'll keep that in mind

[hidden creek]

this, for example

[humble flare]

It's just one that I had built bmfrom like a yr ago

[ebon parrot]

Ngl u can take advantage of the new limited event

It has sub zero seal

As one of the drops

I think

And it’s fast to run too

[humble flare]

Ironically I just dismantled all my jades

I had like 30 seals

[ebon parrot]

Lmao

I’m like low on jades and low on the green essence thing

But u don’t have time to run showdown 🥲🥲

I*

[humble flare]

I feel

I only gane on weekends and I stream br. So showdown has very little time

I have been doing new event tho to slowly level

It's like og showdown leveling

[hidden creek]

it's... actually the fastest...

in term of sense leveling

[humble flare]

Yeah that's whybive been doing it

When showdown came out leveling worked the same as this event

[ebon parrot]

At what point should I start trying to work my hydroflare into hydro thunder

[hidden creek]

at least 6 scorching i think

[ebon parrot]

So get to 6 scorching on the jades that both builds share and then consider switching?

If I get windfalls should I just stay hydroflare

[hidden creek]

not necessary to be both builds shared jades

[ebon parrot]

O

O yea

Ok I was just being cheap

:)

[hidden creek]

6 scorching on this setup then it's worth to use ig
or copperward instead of flaming blade

[normal socket]

@fierce light one last question sorry, what should potential look like for this build

[hidden creek]

even classic hydroflare prio scorching too

windfall is always good that's a nobrain

[hidden creek]

it's on pinned

[normal socket]

the one that says ''any draco stride in the build''?

[hidden creek]

yes

[thorn narwhal]

is it confirmed u only get 1 rare by casting and rest is behind p2w flux? because i can't get a second

[hidden creek]

draco stride = dmg from hydroflare = that potential plan that got both blazing flame and water n fire raged

[hidden creek]

on the same jade yes

can't get 2nd rare with normal recast

have to be flux embed

[thorn narwhal]

that sucks

[hidden creek]

well the ppl that got 2-3 rares on the same jade went through the same process

so

technically speaking i believe showdown was made in a way that you could clear all the available contents w/o any rare attributes on your build

rares just make it easier

[thorn narwhal]

how do they get 12+ rares if u can barely get 1 flux each season

[hidden creek]

alot of recasting

[thorn narwhal]

if u mean by easier, clearing the boss with 2 hits then ye

[hidden creek]

well they worked for it, they deserve it

[thorn narwhal]

like recast> get a rare>deconstruct> gether flux shards is that how it goes?

[hidden creek]

yes

[thorn narwhal]

kinda make sense, shouldn't have wasted 200 recasts on the same jade

[ebon parrot]

That’s just an information gap unfortunately

It’s okay cuz I did like 352 recasts back then lol

🥲

[thorn narwhal]

@hidden creek but i saw darkzero recasting a rare to another rare twice thro normal casting or is it like once u unlock a second rare u can get it anytime

[hidden creek]

well ofc you can recast a rare into another rare

bcoz the result is still a sj with only 1 rare attribute

[thorn narwhal]

nvm thought he had 2 rares

[hidden creek]

i don't think so

[thorn narwhal]

so if u'd like to change the rares after 1 u gotta go thro all this again

[hidden creek]

yeah

[thorn narwhal]

alr ty

[fierce light]

For that build:
Ice Blast DMG > Attack > DMG to Boss > Melee Weapon DMG > Charged/Non-Charged Attack DMG

[humble flare]

Ty brother

[steep patio]

Can poison build w cyan fang n soild good for thunder and ice peak

[hidden creek]

ppl just ignore the omens and use their strongest build anyway lol

enigma peak diff wielding still make 0 diff

[steep patio]

210%+ poison damage 15 scorching 75% mod 50% windfall 3%+ attack on rest of jades

On viper build

[hidden creek]

if you do good dmg with it then why not

[steep patio]

Yeah I just played poison peak for almost 6hours straight

Just completed it with dropping 6m+ damage

Just bad farming

[fierce light]

You can't but flux jades afaik. Wouldn't call them p2w.

[thorn narwhal]

i meant the red flux

[steep patio]

For poison cyan and solid build what jades get mod

I think I’m choosing the wrong jades because I have 5 scorching

[woeful bay]

where do I deconstruct souljades?

[fierce light]

Yeah those are only given out at the beginning of a season, unless you mean the one from battle pass lol?

[fierce light]

You wouldn't really use mod with cyan

Incineration and Arcane Thunder

[thorn narwhal]

idk if there were more ways to get them but there's no way they would give only 1

[twin ledge]

Seems thunder might be best for farming might be wrong tho

[hidden creek]

1 from season challenge
1 from yama astral 3
1 from bp

[thorn narwhal]

i think 2 is manageable

[quick magnet]

Is there a specific way to trigger this?

[thorn narwhal]

spam ur skill, [F]

[quick magnet]

sure

[fierce light]

Moderation helps a lot for that.

[magic ridge]

use your ability when the timer is at 1. you will get like 20 kills

[hidden creek]

@fierce light Dark hm defuse recovery and parry recovery would be called ''comfortable'' on thunderscorch build?

[near echo]

I have a question, I don't know if I got confused, but wasn't there a soul jade that removed the player's intoxicated status and applied it to enemies? Does this jade exist?

[near echo]

Ah 🤦‍♂️ thanks

[fierce light]

It looks like they nerfed Parry triggers Recovery, it only considers the first parry. You can make it heal twice though with a dodge cancel.

I think 300+ is comfortable.

[hidden creek]

so in a perfect situation with a divine thunder parry > dodge > parry it trigger twice yeah?

currently i got 285 parry recovery and 385 defuse recovery

is that enough?

[fierce light]

I prefer Defuse Recovery

That should be enough though, I'm sitting at ~120 and can manage, 300+ would be comfortable.

[hidden creek]

120 lol

ok

[fierce light]

It's manageable for the shorter fights, like in Yama's

I have to back up to heal in Enigma

[hidden creek]

hmm

idk what should i get for the 4th attribute after a rare/hp/attk

[fierce light]

Double Windfall or Windfall + Scorching would be ideal.

Probably Dmg to Boss though if you have enough Recovery.

[hidden creek]

yeah i'm not gonna go for double rare

not enough mats

and i want to save some

dmg to boss hmm... does it really matters though?

like with a let's say 20% dmg to boss and a 0% dmg to boss setup, on thunderscorch build, which main dmg comes from scorching, which doesn't scale with dmg to boss

does it really make a difference?

[fierce light]

It's the next best option

I'll have to test later how many attacks it takes to build Thunder Counter

[hidden creek]

i see

[fierce light]

Based off this video for Viper Ning: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1266668634609025076/1289746921594032161/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_10.mp4?ex=66fa9aac&is=66f9492c&hm=e20731d1bcc653d68a0629d3a882e344519a648d3c26636ca599a88d90001392&, he builds up Thunder Counter with the Horizontal 1st Charge x2 and Horizontal 2nd Charge x2 (x2 cause he hit both bosses with it). So just looking at the base damage, you'd boost around 22.5% of it.

Of course the actual damage spread will be scewed towards burn even more cause of potential.

[hidden creek]

🤔

i see

thanks

[normal socket]

@fierce light @hidden creek sorry last question, i just got to pity system but it doesnt let me pick scorching do i have to do something to be able to select it?

[hidden creek]

it was specifically mentioned that you can choose an attribute that is NOT a rare attribute

[normal socket]

oh so there is no pity system for rare attributes??

[hidden creek]

yes

[normal socket]

LAME

😦

[hidden creek]

yeah it's hard to get a rare

[reef relic]

getting a rare after so many tries and not getting the one you want

[limpid pecan]

i think there is probably some pity system

but hidden

[limpid pecan]

well im lucky today

xD

[reef relic]

Stonks

I`ve hit the pity for like 5 times and didnt get the rare one

i wanted

[limpid pecan]

i had scorching lvl 1

rerolled it to scorching lvl 3

then a few tries after

got windfall

i already had 4 scorching so ye

[reef relic]

Nice

[thorn narwhal]

give me one and i give u a moderation

[reef relic]

Haven`t started playing showdown for real a long ago so i dont have a lot of stuff

[ebon parrot]

Does windfall also affect scorching

[round glacier]

Nope

[ebon parrot]

Ah ok

[thorn narwhal]

@hidden creek 1 more thing, does accepting recast or changing to a different attribute impact/change the chance of rare

[hidden creek]

i don't think so

[past loom]

what is the fastest way to get showdown seal?
is it only from event claim?

[ebon parrot]

Well another option would be the pass but I don’t think that’s the answer ur looking for

[magic prairie]

Yama as f2p option

[somber talon]

hiii ive got two questions, im a bit of noobie when it comes to showdown.
which element is best, poison or thunder?
and is it best to commit to one tree on the potential tree, or to spread the points around?

[short meadow]

thunder with draco is best for now .
there is pin guide about potential tree check that

[proud karma]

at what Sense level I should start recasting Jade for better stat?

[somber talon]

ty!!

[fierce light]

Poison is good for starting out, it doesn't need much investment other than just getting the Souljades

[placid prairie]

hello guys, i wonder if someone could help me to kill nightscream autumn plains turmoil boss? 😅

[thorn narwhal]

can join but for further looking for games check #🐲┃showdown-lfg

[copper summit]

Is there a guide for the whole scorching/windfall/mod thing for new players? besides it being a necessity for high investment builds

[limpid pecan]

windfall = always good, scorching = good for hydroflare and thunder scorch builds, moderation = good for viper poison/ice builds

[thorn narwhal]

i think he is seeking more detailed guide as for example how scorch affects each element and what it does exactly, same for windfall which attributes does it benefit the most from it etc, but i dont think such guide exist

[copper summit]

yeah I didn't see anything really explaining them just that they're a thing and should get it but as far as details and specifics go not a whole lot lol
like what I got from lurking here you can only get 1 rare per jade unless lucky/dismantle other rares for a material you can use for refinement?

[limpid pecan]

first rare u can get just recasting attribute, to put more rares on jades which already have one rare u need flux shards

u can get 1 big one from yama getting paragon rank, 1 from 1000 points in season challenge and 1 from BP last lvl

if u deconstruct jade with rare attribute u get 1 small shard for each rare attrib

2 small shards or 1 big one can add rare attribute to any jade

even if it has one rare already

scorching deals very big burn damage if u parry successfully

moderation reduces ur skill cooldown when triggering elemental blast

and windfall adds up to 50% to stat values on ur other stats on that jade

so if u have 50% windfall, 4% attack and 12% hp its same as 6% attack 18% hp

the only way to farm flux shards is to recast stats on jades then deconstruct them

so if u need to add 2nd rare

u should recast bad jades until u get rare then deconstruct them

there is also very small chance to get rare attribute on jade from drops

[copper summit]

gotcha gotcha, alright that's super helpful thanks

[thorn narwhal]

useful should remove alot of confusion to many players, maybe should pin

[placid prairie]

use blasts triggered by {toxified} to kill monsters... wth does it means attack with charged attacks?

[hidden creek]

it mean attack with charged attacks...?

[placid prairie]

ahhh srry there is no chapter 2 yet ^^ lolz

how to complete toxic shroud?

[fierce light]

You need the legendary poison jades to do so. Poison Blast happens first, then there's a big explosion from [Toxified] I just call Toxin Blast.

Noxious Blast, Pestilent Pool and Infectious Touch in particular. Also recommend the red path on the potential tree or it'll take significantly longer to proc it.

[placid prairie]

hydroflare you can activate with defuse?

srry with so many questions 😅

[hidden creek]

hydroflare happens when you apply soaked status onto a target currently having burned status or vice versa

soaked and burned comes from character's abilities, soujades, potential

[fierce light]

Defuse • Flaming Blade, Defuse • Raging Flame and Ember all apply Burn, then when you dodge, Draco Stride activates, applying Soaked. Soaked + Burn = Hydroflare.

[high fractal]

What are the fastest ways to grind sense I am sense 840 rn.

[fierce light]

Suffer No Demon rn

[normal socket]

Does sense level boost your stats orrr cuz I’ve been struggling at gold 2 boss while having 900 sense

In yamas abyss ^

[high fractal]

I'll try spamming that some more but it gets so repetitive after a while

[fierce light]

Enigma Domain is the next best bet unless you don't have a meta build yet.

[fierce light]

Yeah you get +1 Base Attack, +10 Health and +10 Armor every 10 levels. Your difference from the Recommended Sense also affects your damage output.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/626648769194098690/1286873662477172776/hFZHyr6.png?ex=66fc043e&is=66fab2be&hm=6d3996f25185966c3cb6d83651508967d5d6d2e3adcdca8b27ca661288129137&

[normal socket]

Oooh thanks

Is g2 Yama abyss usually hard without rare attributes or am I just bad 🤣

[teal adder]

Do I need to use Fatigue if I want to get the Special Item Drop? (I have repeated one level 3 times already and didnt hget the special item drop, with fatigue on)

[hidden creek]

what special item drop

[teal adder]

Like on Morus Island - Immovable on Hard, it says Special Item Drop is the Jade Copper Ward

[hidden creek]

ah

yes

fatigue must be consumed

[teal adder]

so its luck based if I get it or not?

[hidden creek]

yes

[teal adder]

okok, thank you :3

[hidden creek]

the term ''special drop'' is just for saying ''this stage have a chance for dropping this sj''

[teal adder]

understood now, thanks

[foggy goblet]

anyone have a luck build?

[fierce light]

Shouldn't need any rares to clear any of them. Just need a build that synergizes.

You'd still want the right Attributes though, they're pretty easy to get now.

[normal socket]

Attack and health yes?

As for the build I am doing this, I saw the pinned message my potential should be the one you recommended that has draco In yes? @fierce light

[fierce light]

You shouldn't be using that build if you don't have any Rare Attributes.

[normal socket]

Oh… what should I do than if without

[fierce light]

Can go for a Normal Thunder build

or Poison

[normal socket]

Can you tell me the souljades?

For thunder

And potential would be the one u suggest for thunder yes?

[fierce light]

The Souljades that drop from Suffer No Demon are used in the Standard Thunder build.

Potential is in the pins

[normal socket]

can u name what i should look for besides thunder counter

and thunderpull

[proud karma]

whats max sense lvl?

[normal socket]

1030

[proud karma]

lol im only 850

[normal socket]

thanks

[torpid night]

What is the luck attribute?

[fierce light]

It's believed to increase the quality of your drops. But the effect is so negligible, that it's not worth sacrificing the damage for.

[torpid night]

Does it effect the rarity of jades dropped after boss fights in showdown?

[fierce light]

Probably. They aren't exactly clear on what it does and there's so much variance in the drops it's hard to tell if it does anything really.

[torpid night]

I assumed the same thing. Thank you.

[normal socket]

do they all have to be thunder wielding or its ok to keep as they are

[fierce light]

Yeah, it's crucial that they are.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1266668634609025076/1287497279292313680/Screenshot_20240922_153402.jpg?ex=66fba607&is=66fa5487&hm=c80b413db0d3ff2e03c37296316b45f2cc4b91d30b6c177d083edd85e76c7f2e&=&format=webp&width=1007&height=405

In terms of Thunderpull though it makes it charge up slower the more you have, but the damage still increases.

[normal socket]

gotcha gotcha

[ebon parrot]

Its crazy I have +6 scorching when I need mod on them

But I got all windfalls and no scorching on my hydroflare

[fierce light]

https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1289794313772859465

[round glacier]

Hydroflare strongest right now right

[pearl raft]

@fierce light is copper ward increase the damage ?

[fierce light]

Yes, for Burn damage if you have Blazing Flame equipped in your Potential Tree.

[pearl raft]

ooh thank u ❤️

[silver meadow]

anyone eu wanna pve in difficult mode?

[pearl raft]

https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1045610531953852446

[somber talon]

when does the fatiuge reset? Heard it was once a week but don't know which day

[hidden creek]

the display time depend on ur timezone

[fierce light]

Wednesday/Thursday at <t:1727899200:t>.

[somber talon]

oop, didn't see that. thanks!!

[sharp flint]

Hey guys, I cannot seem to find suffer no demon anywhere, could someone guide me?

[hidden creek]

bro

[fierce light]

It should be at the bottom-left when choosing a mission

[sharp flint]

Weird...not visible to me at all 😅

should I complete smth before?

[hidden creek]

huh, it's not there?

weird

do you see this on event center?

[sharp flint]

yes...but when I tab challenge it just takes me to the map

nvm just noticed it xDD thank you

[bitter timber]

Anyone got any tips for doing Immovable Hard??? Or could someone help me do it possibly?

Currently at minimum requirement, gonna be grinding other stuff to level

[torpid night]

I leveled a shard up to see if the shards that drop would drop at that level. They did not. Why is that?

[fierce light]

Each mission has a max level that can drop. The max level that you can get will increase with every run you do with fatigue on.

[torpid night]

What if I turn fatigue off? Because the number is only increasing by 2 each run.

[timid stirrup]

if u turn fatigue off u wont get any drops iirc

[abstract zinc]

hi any glyph guide for all charachters? please

[warped falcon]

Check pins bro

[torpid night]

So a very slow and daunting grind is all I can hope to accomplish....

[timid stirrup]

not necessarily. if u spam all the blue drops onto 1 jade it will raise extensively which will raise the max sense drop faster

[ebon parrot]

I don’t think that works

In this season

[timid stirrup]

lets say u get 880 and its 18 blue jades. and use all 18 on an 880 jade instead of the next match giving u 882-883 the jade itself is something like 885

oh

well it doesnt hurt to try

[ebon parrot]

Not quite certain but every 6 jades is 2 sense upgrade every 3 is like 1

[timid stirrup]

it depends on the lvl the jade used and what lvl the jade its being used on

if the jade is 760 and a 800 blue is being used to upgrade it will upgrade to like 780 with just 1

[ebon parrot]

Ooh u mean that

Mb

I thought u meant the sense level of jade dropped would increase based off ur sense level

[timid stirrup]

but if its 800 and the blues being used is 800 then it will only b like 801 or 802 with 6

[fierce light]

It normally just increases per run. Whether you level a jade or not (usually) won't affect the drops.

So it's better to level them evenly to get the most amount of XP. Unless you're farming Nirriti or Suffer No Demon which don't care about your Sense Level.

[torpid night]

Yeah, that is what I did and did not work.

I rose it to 880 and still dropping 772, well 774 now.

[timid stirrup]

damn i wonder if u raise 6 jades evenly if they will drop better that way

actually now that i think of it. i evenly raised my 6jades and the next match had higher sense drops that were above what i raised it to. but that was a bit ago

[short meadow]

which map is best for sense farm at 100% ftg ?

[fierce light]

Enigma > Suffer No Demon = Nirriti's Ruins > Any Chapter Mission

[short meadow]

Suffer no demon is giving 4 normal jade at 100%

is that normal?

[fierce light]

Yeah

Only 15 fatigue

[fathom bobcat]

I get keys for Enigma often from Suffer no demon, it's funny.

[ebon parrot]

It’s great

[drifting lance]

🎉 | m4 leveled up!

[heavy gulch]

Recast jade only 0.1% and 0.2%

Wtf. This is a joke right?

[timid stirrup]

i think the highest i've seen is 0.6% when upgrading atk but more commonly got .1/.2

[limpid pecan]

do not tap too quickly

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1175184894381531247.png?size=160&name=MatariLaugh

[heavy gulch]

Yeah I should not tap quickly. Because they are fear to not dropping 10% wtf

No matter how I tap the thing is the drop rate. A fuckin joke

Every time when I recast I get only 0.1% and 0.2%

[short meadow]

same

[limpid pecan]

its rly slow to recast especially at high values

like 80%+ of maximum value

[heavy gulch]

I didn't get 80%+ ever since I recasted

[limpid pecan]

i meant when u recast stat that is already at 80%+ of its maximum value

its very very slow

u had 3.2% attack

so its already 80%

of max value

[heavy gulch]

It seems you don't understand something. From beginning when stats is 1.1 , 1.3 or 1.7 the drop rate is always 0.1% - 0.2%.

And to get there, I recasted more than 1000 green jades if I'm thinking

[limpid pecan]

this is normal

just the frequency is higher at lower values

at most u can get + 0.3% attack i believe

if u get very lucky

this is why generally speaking u should try to find jades with high values rather than correct stats

[vocal needle]

hey its been a while since i played showdown so are there any new strong builds or is it still the same as last season with the burn builds being the best

[hidden creek]

check pinned

[placid prairie]

so guys, when you have rare attribute i have to deconstruct it? even if it is on my main jades and replace to another one? (i mean if this rare is scorch wich i don't need)

[limpid pecan]

if u have just one rare, u can keep rerolling it until u get correct rare

though if this particular jade u are reolling doesnt have stellar stats, may be more worth to just trash it and start rolling another jade of the same kind

for instance i got jade like this recently

it has very good values on every stat

so trashing it is a little sad

if i get wrong rare

but if it had stats like +60/+5%/+6%

then i'd rather trash it when i get wrong rare

[fierce light]

That's what makes Suffer No Demon so good, since you can farm the current meta jades pretty quickly

Aside from the burn stuff

[wise topaz]

You can drop new poison jade from Suffer No Demon?

[fierce light]

That's what the 2nd half is for

[wise topaz]

Oh

Its already out?

[chrome agate]

Tomorrow it should be out @wise topaz

[wise topaz]

Oh k, ty

[heavy gulch]

Someone? I need help to beat 8 bosses on enigma peak. I did only 6. I'm running out of time.

I play EU server but I can come to NA to play

[warped falcon]

What’s the fastest time on wuchen for this week’s Yamas On PC leaderboards?

[timid stirrup]

i dont remember peak being a timed event

[fierce light]

Have till the end of the season to beat it. Just a lot of people rushed it

[timid stirrup]

1:25 NA PC Wuchen Yama's leader. Thunder/Scorching+12 build

[heavy gulch]

Yes it is.

Enigma peak - thunder, poison, ice.

There are 3 types of enigma peak

[timid stirrup]

it just released this week. how short of a time do u think u have? isnt it til the end of showdown battle pass?

[short meadow]

yeah its till the end of the season

[timid stirrup]

thats what i thought. im confused y @heavy gulch is running out of time then. unless they meant out of fatigue but could just wait til reset 2moro

[tranquil beacon]

The timer in game? To kill the bosses

[short meadow]

yh

[heavy gulch]

I'm speaking about to kill 8 bosses in enigma peak to get that badge. But after 6 bosses the time is end.

[limpid pecan]

to clear enigma peak u need to have 3 ppl with good builds and who know what they are doing

ideally 2x thunder scorch and 1 mod viper probably

or even 3x thunder scorch since it clears mobs rly quickly as well

[hidden creek]

1 mod viper 1 thunderscorch 1 poison

[limpid pecan]

i guess poison is nice to fish for omnius beast

i cleared all 3 enigma peaks using my old strat to avoid crossping

we spawned multiple bosses and just went 1v1 them

and last boss we went 3 together if it was not fully dead yet

with viper and wuchen we had enough stuff to stunlock him for a while

was easier than last season but also we had overall better builds than last season too

[warped falcon]

Wow and I thought i was fast

[fierce light]

Nice I got it! Max level too.

[limpid pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1175185005815803946.png?size=160&name=TessaGasm

[round glacier]

Just normal recast or you can recast rare to rare now?

[fierce light]

You always could as long as its the only rare. It treats the Souljade like it doesn't have a rare already.

I recast ones I don't want till either a maxed attribute appears or I get the rare I want.

[reef relic]

How tf i get scorching on the build i didn`t need it and moderation on the build i needed scorching

And in like 5 tries

[short meadow]

What is the max potential?

[warped falcon]

Lvl 40 so 40 points

[limpid pecan]

there is 48

u get some extra from season quests

[fierce light]

+39 from Potential Level.
+9 from Seasonal Quests.

[bitter timber]

What should I farm to upgrade my souljades quickly???

[warped falcon]

Ohhhhhhhh wow i didn’t know that

[fierce light]

• Enigma Domain (most fatigue efficient)
• Suffer No Demon (most time efficient)
• Nirriti's Ruins (time taken not affected by your outside gear)

[bitter timber]

Okay, Tysm~

[timid stirrup]

was trying for moderation but not mad that i got this instead

[short meadow]

I was trying for 1 sorching but i got 2 windfall

[timid stirrup]

i was trying to get another moderation for poison mod -.- im only at 25%

[short meadow]

Feels like windfall is common in this season i got 4windfall

[timid stirrup]

funny how when u went a specific rare u get something else

when i wanted windfall i got scorching. now i want moderation i get windfall

[short meadow]

moderation is a pain

[timid stirrup]

now i think all 6 jades in my poison mod build have 1 rare on them. 4x windfall 1 scorching 1 moderation.

game is off so cant confirm my jades

[crisp horizon]

Hi, your guide in the github site still up to date?

[thorn narwhal]

quick q, will some sj always drop with the same wielding like thunder counter wielding thunder

[round glacier]

How do you deal with the blast omnius does after that soul army nonsense?

Defuse?

[limpid pecan]

parry, defuse or dodge

or u can use some kind of skill that helps

like feria mech

u can even just die on this phase tbh

and res

he only does it twice

[short meadow]

@fierce light which one will be better here? Heath or Atk?

[limpid pecan]

isnt 2 windfall bad?

if u have scorching too

if u max out stats u have 30% health

but u could have 22.5% health with 6% attack instead

30% health = 18% burn dmg

and 22.5% health = 13.5% burn dmg

but u get full 6% attack

especially if u dont use incineration thats a lot more

than extra 4.5% burn

[short meadow]

[short meadow]

i was looking for scorching then i got 2nd windfall , and my last rare was scorching

[limpid pecan]

well rn i think it makes more sense to roll away one windfall

into attack

[short meadow]

i think i might build another draco xD

[limpid pecan]

idk seems fine to me

[short meadow]

this cost my flux shard so i cant just throw them away

[limpid pecan]

sunken cost fallacy

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1175184894381531247.png?size=160&name=MatariLaugh

[warped falcon]

And thats the way the cookie crumbles ~

[fierce light]

Yeah it's not worth having more than 2 rares on a single jade

You can roll one of those Windfalls into a max attribute

[short meadow]

Oh Okk i will recast it into Atk

[fierce light]

Yeah, generally if they involve anything that's a part of an element (Thundershock, Divine Thunder, Frostbite, Ice Blast, Poison Blast, Toxified, etc), they will always have the Wielding related to it.

[fierce light]

Don't aim for attack specifically, aim for a max attribute first

[short meadow]

Okhy

[thorn narwhal]

ah great, didn't wanna manually change them until i make sure

[timid stirrup]

would double moderation on a single jade b optimal?

[crisp horizon]

Is the ice element build the weakest right now?

[fierce light]

You end up with the same stats in the end whether you put double moderation on one jade or not.

[fierce light]

Yes. Although Ice Mod does allow for more controlled mobbing.

[fierce light]

Working on a quick update rn for the new builds. Although the other information might take some time.

[fathom bobcat]

Yeah, but it's still weaker than even near-basic poison. And it's not enough for Enigma Peak, as for me.

[fathom bobcat]

I don't know if it's weaker than thunder build) But yes, it is weak compared to strong builds.

In general, +- pure ice build is really strong for the entire time Showdown has only been around 1,5 month, from February to second half of March 2024. By February we got all ice jades and then it played well.

[thorn narwhal]

is there anyway to make thunder moderation work, was trying to get thunder scorch but i keep getting mods

can't get a value out of it

[fierce light]

Yeah you need really high investment for it to be able to clear effectively. 270%+ Ice Blast DMG.

[fierce light]

Possibly, but the issue is Thunder has no way to boost it's accumulation rate (on enemies), so Moderation ends up being a lot less effective than Poison (w/ Hydro's Bound) and Ice (w/ Frost Douse).

Flame-Thunder Chant does boost it for your Martial Skills, but you want it to boost your Hero Skill and Arcane Thunder.

Poison (high investment) > Thunder (high investment) > Poison (low investment) > Ice (high investment) > Thunder (low investment) > Ice (low investment)

[thorn narwhal]

i see thanks, so better to keep my focus on investing poison atm

[fierce light]

Thunder Scorch of course is in a tier of it's own. With Hydroflare being slightly behind it.

[round glacier]

What jades you need for thunder sorch again?

Counter pull proof

[timid stirrup]

its in the pins. draco, copper, flaming blade

[fierce light]

In the pins and on the site now

[somber talon]

what exactly is this?

[hidden creek]

season challenge badge

[somber talon]

how do you increase the score? I've been playing a lot this season and I don't think its gone up much at all lol

[hidden creek]

finish the challenges

[somber talon]

ooooh, i've done so many but feel like it hasn't done anything so I wouldnt have even guessed lmao. ty!!

[fierce light]

Some of them are weekly, so make sure to do them

[ebon parrot]

guys, where does draco stride drop, cant seem to find the location in the baizepedia

[ebon parrot]

uhh thats nightscream nirriti?

[hidden creek]

''a match of any level''

so basically all stages have a chance to drop it

[ebon parrot]

ooh

thanks tabbie mb for being illiterate 🥲

[hidden creek]

it's alright
i spent time going through all stages drop and i was like wtf where is that bedwetting jade

then i rmb there's some jades that could drop on any stages

[fierce light]

Yeah just got one to drop from Enigma Topaz.

[hidden creek]

9k luck is scam

i got better drops when i'm running alone (3k luck) vs trios 9k

dumb game

[twin ledge]

Enigma drops seem really bad they do something to drops again ?

[fierce light]

Probably felt like it was too good last week

[sullen pawn]

luck is a wonderful thing

thats about it really

so when you get 5 scorching its displays 15 on stats but damage will be capped at the 12 or how does that work

[wise topaz]

What's the best way to farm those?

[fierce light]

Enigma Domain probably

But don't use any keys when you're at a high fatigue.

[wise topaz]

k ty

[somber talon]

is there a list of recommended jade attributes somewhere?

oop nvm just found one, ignore me

[fierce light]

Wait wtf

Matron actually stuns you with her Ultimate in Paragon 3

[crisp horizon]

i see, i was planning to make an ice build, too bad i guess. poison in the meantime then

is there any way to farm imbuement material? (eseence, flux, etc)

[fierce light]

Flux just needs a lot of luck (not the attribute). Essence you get from Weeklies and Limited Time Events.

[vernal hare]

Where Can I farm souljade at 150% fatiguee?

[fierce light]

Drops don't seem as good this week, but generally Enigma Domain gives you the most jades per fatigue

[vernal hare]

Okee

[short meadow]

I dont know why I'm geting corrupted by my own poison

Why Im dying for poison corrupt?

[fierce light]

Pestilent Pool corrupts you. If you don't have Armor Guard, it's lethal

Poison Heal usually protects you from the first 3 ticks though iirc

[short meadow]

Ops Now i got it

Its working fine now . I was missing that Armor guard

It was so easy

[short meadow]

Also do i Need armor guard? because i cant see that in your potential tree

[fierce light]

Generally don't use it cause it had the potential to leave you at 0 Armor and 1 Health

Mainly just have to use Infectious Touch as soon as you can to get rid of the Toxified effect

[short meadow]

How to use Infectious touch?

I dont understand poison timing and source of DMG

I only see a poison pool and Somewhere a random Poison brust with a good amount of DMg

[fierce light]

https://youtu.be/5aOzCOA3sbQ?si=na22HJBRufVowErw
Explains everything about poison.

[lapis sundial]

Been playing diablo

Coming back to naraka

[gusty cloak]

can anyone help me collect nine star of doom pls?

i try it but i can get only one xD

[lapis sundial]

Are there current potential trees for the state of showdown rn

[fierce light]

Yeah in the pins and also on the guide site

[lapis sundial]

Was a feria main but I'm gonna run yoto

[lapis sundial]

Tytyty

[lapis sundial]

Any recommendations to someone that mained feria going to yoto?

She's def a diff play style. And NGL I started yoto when naraka first came to Xbx but it's been so long since I've even played naraka

[fierce light]

Try to pick up an Aerial Rend Souljade, it's pretty much core to Greatsword.

It's DPS is pretty meh without it

[fierce light]

Sheesh, Thunder Scorch is insane. Ready to start stocking up for next season atp.

[neat thistle]

Can anyone carry me showdown ?

[heavy gulch]

I don't think will. I tried to ask someone the same thing. But they are selfish people around here

Sorry

[magic prairie]

[short meadow]

[bronze wharf]

[reef relic]

[heavy gulch]

Tell guys this is not true... Wtf

[limpid pecan]

well the point u are missing is that asking people to carry is selfish

if they agree it means they are very kind. if they dont agree its neither good nor bad.

[bronze wharf]

don't find a carry bro be a carry yourself . Actually we don't mind carry but you will lack experience and skill later , ofcourse we carry or help for new players for complete their quests and achivements only .

[strong kiln]

Carry but also teach and encourage them to learn, not just handed them their homework answer and be done with it

[heavy gulch]

I completed all challenges except, yama and enigma peak just 6 bosses. I played with my friends but still 6 bosses to enigma. I guess I have to wait 3 weeks to get season badge.

[bronze wharf]

currently yama can play only solo and we all understand about Peak bro but playing is a practice too . play more bro .

[hidden creek]

been seeing some ppl saying suffer no demon chap 2 drop rate is sht

compare to chap 1

what do u guys think? i haven't try chap 2 yet

[copper summit]

felt bout the same personally, got miasma and pestilent within like 5 runs, and a literal mountain of purple dupes

[magic prairie]

Ive opposite experience. Chap 2 dropped way better than chap 1

[subtle bramble]

I keep getting gold jades on chapter 2

Two weeks ago I was struggling to get the gold poison jades from their chapters

Now I'm drowning in duplicates

[limpid pecan]

i still dont have miasma drive lmao

[subtle bramble]

Keep playing event chapter 2 it'll drop eventually plus way faster

[thorn narwhal]

game is refusing to drop noxious for me too, will they drop from event or need to have thro chapter first

[subtle bramble]

I think they're special drops in the event so it shouldn't be affected by that

But it would probably be best to complete the nightscream level for it maybe it'll drop there

And i think that opens up the possibility of it dropping when opening random gold souljade gifts

[thorn narwhal]

hmm guess so, i completed too many runs on culmination with no luck

[subtle bramble]

I was so tired of culmination omg the drop rates are yikes

The event is def better

[thorn narwhal]

that's true

[fierce light]

Drop rate just feels bad since reset. Like I'm at 75% fatigue already

[hidden creek]

damn

[limpid pecan]

sometimes i get like idk 9 crystals and a lot of good jades

at 75% nirriti hard

while i get barely anything in 150%

[copper summit]

all my homies loveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee RNG ///s

[thorn narwhal]

seems like every queue beside event is dead

[fierce light]

People trying to get some good poison jades

[warped falcon]

Should I keep this or deconstruct?

[hidden creek]

stats are quite good, but currently both the jade and the build is underperforming though

i'd recommend you keep it in case either lightning bolts build or the jade itself got buffed in the future

[warped falcon]

Ok tysmmm

[fierce light]

Yeah it's weird they made it slightly weaker than Stormstride Sword, despite there not being many Charged Attacks that can proc it as often.

[thorn narwhal]

@subtle bramble can confirm i got the missing jade so don't need regular drop, but to me drops are kinda bad, i get gold around every 10+runs

[thorn narwhal]

which fatigue consumption on which stage exactly drop this

[hidden creek]

any stage as long as you consumed fatigue

[subtle bramble]

Drops rarely though, wish they increased it a bit

[fierce light]

So it seems grabbing a lot of Currency rings significantly boosts your chance of getting Avarice.

[misty bridge]

Which is the best [Mod] Viper build?

[warped falcon]

The pros are saying poison so i would go with it

[misty bridge]

Which jades are used ?

Cause i have this but i don't know if it is worth to change it rn

[thorn narwhal]

i consumed like 3 weeks worth of fatigue and only got like 8 so its indeed very rare

[hidden creek]

ig

you don't need much of those though

well just in the beginning

[fierce light]

If you have Ice Mod set up already, you can still use it. You need around 50%-75% Moderation for Poison Mod to become usable.

[misty bridge]

I have 100%

So i must change it to poison?

[timid stirrup]

that depends on what jades have the moderation. cuz only 2 of those r used in the poison mod setup. Arcane Thunder and Incineration

[misty bridge]

If so, which is the build or what do i have to change

[timid stirrup]

the other 4 turn into poison jades

[misty bridge]

I have 50% with them

So what do i need to use poison instead of ice

What souljades are used

[timid stirrup]

Infectious Touch, Noxious Blast, Pestilent Pool, and Miasma Drive

[misty bridge]

ty so much

[timid stirrup]

I only have 25% moderation but 4 of my jades have windfall and 1 has scorching

[misty bridge]

Is it worth to have scorch?

[timid stirrup]

if i can change my scorching into moderation i would b 1 happy camper

[formal sluice]

Can I use this resource to recreate this second rare line into another rare line?

Please explain to me

[timid stirrup]

i dont think so but i could b wrong

[formal sluice]

please

[fierce light]

Not a bad drop, all 75% or higher.

[fierce light]

Nope, only works if it's the only rare.

Noice got this too

[restive wraith]

a small question, I'm new so I don't understand this
Why we use "Thunder" Wielding Type here with Poison build? and I how can I change my souljade from poison wielding to thunder?
https://drk-zer0.github.io/Showdown/build.html?option=1#Poison-Builds (Poison Fang build)

[hidden creek]

it was a mistake

he prolly forgot to edit it

it actually use poison wielding

[restive wraith]

thank youuu I was so confused

[copper summit]

is there any benefit in high stats on attributes that generally aren't great/aren't as used in builds? or just kinda save it for a what if case where it might be relevant in a later season?

[fierce light]

Yeah that was a mistake, fixed it. Should be up shortly.

[fierce light]

You can convert them to stats you want really easily and saves you a lot of materials trying to get the % up.

[restive wraith]

feel so weird having the teacher himself replied, you did such great work to new players like me sir

[copper summit]

hmm? how's that work? like if you recast a high % the rerolls will be equally high in most cases?

[hidden creek]

it will always be equally high

for example you got 200 armor (maxed value but useless stat), you reroll it into poison blast dmg it will be 30%

[copper summit]

had no idea ngl ngl

that's good to know, but damn all the jades that RIP'd in the meantime kek

so on the flipside if you have a low roll will it always be a low roll as well, unless you recast the value and endure the 5 billion +0 / +0.1?

[hidden creek]

exactly

[fierce light]

Yeah the new system keeps your %, so you never technically lose progress. It's just at the cost of more upfront expenses.

[hidden creek]

that's why get a jade with multiple high stats (doesn't matter what's the stats) to begin rerolling

[copper summit]

makes a lot more sense now aye, that is helpful at least to mitigate the levels of RNG, pretty friendly overall

[hidden creek]

you still need a jade with high stats to begin with but yeah

😂

[fierce light]

Yeah the only struggle right now is getting rare attributes and getting attributes above 80%

Can also recast rares you don't want until a 100% attribute appears

[hidden creek]

yeah just took me 60 rolls from a lv1 scorching to a 5% ranged dmg

😂

fkin

[fierce light]

Definitely a bargain

[hidden creek]

what do i do with this now

is it worth it to reroll melee dmg > dmg to boss and dmg to boss > poison blast dmg

or just melee dmg to poison blast dmg

[fierce light]

Poison Blast DMG if mobbing is your focus.
Increase DMG to Boss is better for bossing.

[limpid pecan]

isnt melee dmg kinda crap?

[fierce light]

Yeah it's like your 4th Attribute choice if you don't have a Rare Attribute.

[hidden creek]

was from a scorching

rerolled into a maxed stat

[limpid pecan]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1175185005815803946.png?size=160&name=TessaGasm

[hidden creek]

what i mean is is it worth it to change current dmg to boss to poison blast dmg and then the melee dmg to dmg to boss

or just straight up reroll melee dmg to poison blast dmg

which gonna save some resources

cuz god know hm rolls i gonna need

anyway @fierce light what's ur opinion on scorching on poison builds?

cuz that sht keep poped up when i reroll my poison jades

9 scorchings alr

[fierce light]

It's not something I'd keep in the end, but won't hurt to have while you're building up

Cause it relies on enemies to throw a lot of Focus Attacks to be worth.

[hidden creek]

yeah

also the lack of the hp to burn dmg potential node

[fierce light]

Yeah it's essentially at 1x strength

[neon brook]

do we have a discord for showdown? i need some help clearing showdown for the stars but have no teammates

[timid stirrup]

https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1045610531953852446

[neon brook]

what does exhilarating elixir do exactly? will i get more drops of the same sense or higher sense

[hidden creek]

3 times of double fatigue consumed but also double the drops

in other words it just save you some farming time

[neon brook]

so not good for sense farming

[hidden creek]

i guess

[fierce light]

Believe the max level of drops will still increase by like 2-3 levels, so it's not the most effective for leveling sense. More so better when you're getting max level drops (1010).

It doubles the fatigue you consume while also doubling the materials you recieve.

[fierce light]

Viper Ning w/ Cyan Fang seems to be the best for Suffer No Demon - Toxic Shroud.

[spice canyon]

Indeed

[crisp horizon]

Hydroflare potential plan image wont show up on the site. The other plan appear just fine

[lapis vale]

no way

I got noxious blast and infectious touch in one match of suffer no demon

[short meadow]

normal drop

[lapis vale]

not for me

[spice canyon]

Very normal

[short meadow]

They are giving too much windfall this season . i got 6 windfall streak

where is scorching

[lapis vale]

@short meadow

I haven't been on touch with the game lately-

any updates on the poison build??

and what's the meta this season??

and what should I follow for wuchen..?

[short meadow]

Everything on pinned

[lapis vale]

I see 5 poison builds

4 potential plans

which do I follow

[short meadow]

I got 15 scorching dmn

[lapis vale]

[fathom bobcat]

Imbabuild aka Thunder hydroflare.
Or easy poison (pain when 1 vs 1 against boss on Paragon or Enigma Peak or hard Speedrun), or classic hydroflare (still good against bosses, but not against mobs).

[lapis vale]

oop!

easy poison is bad for bosses?

[fathom bobcat]

Red and little green for Wuchen Poison. Red and Blue for any hydroflare.

[fathom bobcat]

You don't have easy defusion.

On potential

And 12 scorching on hydroflare still more profitable against bosses, imho.

[lapis vale]

okay okay I see

thank u so much!

[fathom bobcat]

[short meadow]

i got 3 level 1 scorching

Now its gonna take forever top make them level 9

@fierce light is there any benefit above 12 scorching?

[limpid pecan]

if one day something bugs and more than 12 works, u will be the first one to know

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1168621807419543593.png?size=160&name=HappyKurumi

[crisp horizon]

Which mode gives most purple/yellow jade per fatigue

[short meadow]

got 6x3 scorching now

[grim girder]

I just saw that Incineration is used in Poison Mod build. I don't understand what is supposed to trigger Hydroflare when using Poison Mod on Viper. Does she have a source of [Burning]?

[limpid pecan]

skilled fire chant from potential

then u have another potential that soaks on poison blast

[grim girder]

Oh, thanks, forgot about skilled fire chant

How many attribute recasts are needed on average to get a rare one?

[copper summit]

too damn many

[short meadow]

60-70 mybe

[maiden flower]

guys anyone has a good souljade build for tarka ji ?

[grim girder]

By the way, is Skill Cooldown Reduction a useful attribute for Mod builds?

[thorn narwhal]

if u have 100% moderation that's already instant cooldown so nope

[limpid pecan]

problem is moderation reduces remaining cooldown, not a set percentage

so if u have 20sec ability

first mod takes it to 10s

then another to 5

then to 2.5

thats why having 100% is so good

[flat pier]

ok what's the build for this week yama abyss?

i am late to the party but someone help please?

[limpid pecan]

thunder scorch

[flat pier]

how do you get rind of the freeze?

or you guys don't get frozen or something?

is any of this a potential for poison mod pleae?

[flat pier]

nvm, yeah.. i just realized, once i change to all ice wielding i dont' freeze XD

[thorn narwhal]

1020 is same as 1029 right?

[copper summit]

one has a 0 and the other a 9

[limpid pecan]

no

[fathom bobcat]

This

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Гусев/dagot leveled up!

[flat pier]

thank you

[fierce light]

Weird. It shows up when I test it locally, but not on the public site. I'll try something and see if it fixes it.

[fierce light]

It's not as bad as increasing normal attributes.

[short meadow]

yeah got it its now 15 scorching

[fierce light]

Enigma Domain gives the most Souljades per Fatigue, and it feels like the most non-rares, if you run with Legendary Rune Keys. Still https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1283843960820989952 so there's no clear winner.

[fierce light]

It's actually bad because they make each other less effective.

[fierce light]

No.

[thorn narwhal]

i see but is that dmg increase only caused by level difference since actual stats only change every 10 lvls

[fierce light]

Yeah

Different Sense Suppression values

[fierce light]

Oh dang the change to Spear's Charged Horizontal increased it's DPS by quite a bit. Actually a good DPS option now.

[short meadow]

Can i use raging flame insted of Copper ward on thunder hydrofire build?

[fierce light]

Flaming Blade is better, but yeah

[short meadow]

I have 2 scorching on raging flame so i need it 🙂

[limpid pecan]

realistically u just need 4x scorching and draco with 3 thunder jades

last 2 slots are not that important

its just extra damage boost

[flat pier]

@fierce light Can you please explain why hydroflare is thunder wielding?

also do you recommend deconstructing a souljade to get flux shards when it rolls unwanted rare on first try?

or should i just keep rerolling it with carved crystals

[fierce light]

Flame-Thunder Chant activates for an extra Burn, which gives an extra way to proc Incineration to build up Ember.

Alongside the damage from that Burn.

[flat pier]

is hydroflare plan the same as the thunder scorch plan for potential?

[fathom bobcat]

yes

[flat pier]

thank you

[fierce light]

If you have a slow build up rate of Thunderpull, then Flaming Blade is better than Copper Ward. Like on Feria for example. Wielding Jades are also a good option

[flat pier]

so i was trying for moderation

but this is what i got

what do i do with it?

[fierce light]

Recast it into a max attribute

[flat pier]

sir, yes sir!

i have 12 scorching on my poison mod build

T_T

[fierce light]

It's okay when it's your first rare and you're still building first rares. But best to recast it before going for second rares.

[flat pier]

ok thank you

[short meadow]

Ohhh thats good then

[fierce light]

Yeah if you get Scorching on those main 4, you have a lot more flexibility in your build

[ebon parrot]

racast the first rare to desired?

[fierce light]

Yeah

[short meadow]

have 2 scorching on Thunderpull
1 in draco
2in raging flame

So i need 2 more scorching on Thunder counter/Proof for flexiblity

[fierce light]

By 2 Scorching, do you mean +2? or +6? If +6, then you only need 1 Scorching on Thunder Counter or Thunderproof.

[subtle bramble]

How many moderation do we need for poison mod viper? Finally got my first moderation on one of the jades and wanted to know how many more to go xD

And should I recast the two lvl 3 scorchings I have on the build or keep

[fierce light]

50% Moderation is the minimum.

[grim girder]

I tested Mod Viper with full 100% moderation today and it's insanely good for mobbing, but I'm not all that impressed vs bosses.

maybe arcane thunder and incineration is not the way to go, I dunno

I don't trigger elemental bursts fast enough

F is on cooldown for ~8 seconds

I have frost mod, not poison mod, but the elemental accumulation is the same I believe

[fierce light]

Yeah it doesn't need that much for bosses

Since you're averaging each burst around 10s

[fierce light]

Oh wait you have Ice Mod

The accumulation rate is different, Ice is faster.
For Viper, Ability → 1st Charged Horizontal → Aegis-Break, should proc it on bosses.
You can do the ability last as well if need be.

[hushed rock]

which build do you use for which hero? i have seen the different ones in pinned but dont know what fits best for which heros

[fierce light]

Thunder Scorch is pretty much BiS for each hero against bosses, granted you're able to use it properly.

[hushed rock]

and which of the potential builds would that be? just the thunder one?

[fierce light]

When Mobbing:
Poison Storm for Wuchen & Feria.
Poison Mod for Viper & Tarka.
Standard Poison for Yoto Hime (Aerial Rend), Temulch (Aerial Rend), Valda Cui (Thunder Mastery), Tianhai (Thunder Mastery) and Yueshan (Torrent Flow)
Poison Fang for Matari & Kurumi.

[fierce light]

No, it's primary damage is Hydroflare damage, so Hydroflare.

[hushed rock]

ah alright

[hushed rock]

what is mobbing? sorry haha

[fierce light]

When your primarily fighting non-bosses.

[hushed rock]

ahh alright got it

and which heros are best currently for bossing? and mobbing maybe?

[fierce light]

Viper Ning is probably top tier right now since she works best with Moderation builds and even the Thunder Scorch build.

Tarka and Kurumi are also pretty good at the Thunder Scorch build as well

Wuchen has the highest dps in his base kit.

[hushed rock]

base kit means without jades?

[fierce light]

Yeah

[hushed rock]

okay ty bro :D

[fierce light]

His Ultimate and his Martial Skill are oddly powerful

[hushed rock]

this helps

so for the thunder scorch build do i just recast until i get scorching and windfall on most of the jades?

and then try to recast value after that?

and the health substat is because of copper ward?

[fierce light]

Finally have more Fragments than Crystals again lol

[fierce light]

Yeah pretty much, if you get any Moderations then either scrap that Souljade or try and recast it to a max attribute if it has other good %'s. Sometimes you'll get one of the other rares doing that as well.

If you get Scorching on the main 4 Souljades (Thunderpull, Thunder Counter, Thunderproof and Draco Stride), you can be more flexible with the build.