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[amber terrace]

so hard same with nightscream and lengend?

[fierce light]

Feels like it

I've gotten all Blues in Hard & Legend. 😭

[amber terrace]

i got 6 crystals, 4 gold, 2 purple in hard

non-exilir

[fathom bobcat]

[dusk plover]

Main problem with doing that is people usually don’t have over 500+ fragments (it’s more like less then 50) to use on recasting a brand new jade to where it was before with all the right attributes or close to max so better to just reroll others and dismantle those

[solemn obsidian]

Anyone know how to set up the Potential tree for Lightning Dash build?

[fierce light]

Wouldn't recommend it right now, Cyan Fang is Matari's best DPS option atm.

But you'd want Thunderous Power and Divine Storm

[solemn obsidian]

Cyan Fang? Is that a build?

[fierce light]

It's a Souljade

[solemn obsidian]

Yeah I see okay thanks. I'll try it out whenever I get the souljades

[fierce light]

It has 3 versions, 1 for each element, but they do the same thing

[solemn obsidian]

Where can I check each version?

[fierce light]

In the Narakapedia. Their name just differs with their surname.

[solemn obsidian]

Okay thanks

[cyan grove]

Hi, how do we get the useless rock please?

[tardy moss]

i just reached 820 sense im trying to unlock enigma domain but gotta do nightscream stuff shits hard af should i be using a build now or just random jades?

[fierce light]

You have to be using:

• Viper Ning, Temulch, Tarka Ji, Matari or Yoto Hime(unconfirmed)
  and it'll appear by chance in the Codex.

The difficulty doesn't matter, I've had it appear twice on Normal.

[cyan grove]

I see, thank you, I'm on my 16th try with Tarka and still nothing

Do I have to avoid getting blessings during my run or it doesn't matter at all?

[fierce light]

The two times I did get them was as my first Codex on the first floor.

Don't think having selected anything affects it.

[cyan grove]

Both of my friends got it on the first floor as well

[thorny bay]

dark you sure old thinder build works best?

thunder

[fierce light]

Best build right now is Thunder Scorch.
Spring's Call Thunder Build is probably like 3rd-4th best (behind Hydroflare & in some cases Poison).

[thorny bay]

you gonna make a vid guide or something?

wanna see the difference between builds

is it possible to get rare attribute without flux jade?

[fierce light]

I have a potential video planned, although a bit hard to compare builds like Thunder Counter & HydroFlare since their output varies on a situation basis.

[fierce light]

Your first rare, yes

[thorny bay]

first on a souljade?

or in general first?

just wasted 100 crystals

lovely

[fierce light]

Per Souljade. Can only generate one rare from normal recasting if there's no pre-existing one.

[thorny bay]

ok

so

fx i have 2 thunderpull souljades

1 of them has windfall and the other one no

is it possible to get rare from normal recasting on the one that doesnt have windfall?

[fierce light]

Yes.

If it doesn't have a rare, you can get one through normal recasting.

If it has 1 rare, you can only try recasting that rare for a different one.

[mild quiver]

I'm pissed, I was using Divinity Guard anima, aming for the have less than 10% health achievement, but right as the last hit, either the defuse or counter have healed me a bit too much, leading me to failed the achievement

Also I'm never running Divinity Guard with elemental collection ever again, the low health + the thunder is the worst combination ever

At least I got the 12 elemental anima achievement out of that run

[hidden creek]

Divinity guard and poison is broken af wdym

[mild quiver]

The thunder that keep hitting you I meant, using Divinity guard make me have only a sliver of health, if I mistime the counter, I'm f*cked

[hidden creek]

Why didnt you get poison core

[mild quiver]

Imma need to check out the build, that sound strong actually

[hidden creek]

It is

[mild quiver]

I mostly choose the thunder element at the start, always ignore the frost and poison

[hidden creek]

You can switch it at shops

[mild quiver]

I have 3 collections achievement left, survival, awakening and yin yang

Execpt those, the other seems impossible

Not using rebirth, not using more than 3 healing, choose only 3 types of anima (this one is too RNG dependent)

At least the 10% health can be achieved with divinity guard, and legend difficulty I just need to try really hard

[hidden creek]

3 types of anima you can just pick kurumi and leech off a trios pt lol

or you can contact people who wanna do those achievements too and carry eachothers

for the 3 types of anima ring you can just... not pick anything, or just pick 2 from the start and leave it there

funnel your gold to your carries

[hidden creek]

you can get this by just using poison

don't need divinity guard

[mild quiver]

Yeah, I figure that the only way I could do those is with a trio team and using Kurumi too, but I'm trying to weed out all of the one that I can do solo first

[hidden creek]

get poison but don't get it to 12

and pick armor rings

you'll stay at 1 HP all the time

but you got tons of armor so you won't get 1shot

[mild quiver]

Oh, if you pick poison at the start, you won't die from poison?

[hidden creek]

need blessing from 4x element rings

then you won't die from poison and burn yes

if you do solo you can just pick ice first (for the aoe on iceblast to fast clear mobs), then switch to poison once you got 4x element rings

[mild quiver]

Imma need to try that out, if lucky, I might be able to knock out both 10% health and survival anima too

[mild quiver]

But that would be hard af, my best bet is probably to find a trio team to leech off

[hidden creek]

well yeah ofc

more like impossible

if you solo

so yea just get a pt and you kurumi first, they do the damages, then you be the carry and they're on kurumi

[mild quiver]

Yeah, I though you was talking about solo and was like

[hidden creek]

[twin ledge]

Prob better for this quest in solo trios ping is something else in ruins

Oh nvm ur sea trios better

I don’t know if other servers are same as na ruins

[fluid berry]

so iirc someone said something the other day about the recast system changing or something?

[hidden creek]

old recast system get removed on 24 sept

just that, nothing else

[mild quiver]

Will they compensate us for all of the crystal that won't be usable anymore?

[hidden creek]

high chance they just gonna gets converted to new crystal

and that's it

[buoyant notch]

Dumb question. Who is your favorite boss for showdown and why

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Ƴøuгѕ丶Ƭгułу® leveled up!

[lapis vale]

Omnious Scorch both levels, Stone Monster, for they are clean in attacks and easier to defuse

[lucid ore]

Bough, new boss. Only one that felt good in term of difficulty so far tbh, he also looks pretty cool.
Matron 1 freeze, ded
Scorch sometime counter doesn't work to his fast charge atk (Happen to my party all the time)
4 arms is the most BS boss I've had to struggle with in this game before I learned how to defuse
Big hammer guy is alright
Water guy 2nd form is clunky and push your character backward, sometime doesn't do anything at all.
Hundun lady is now hardest boss for me and her atk slow down and speed up a lot unlike the new guy.

[hidden creek]

as long as it's not matron, korvine, dragon omnius

[round glacier]

Korvine most annoying along with that stupid water dragon. New giant face level is by far the dumbest level there is.

Water ent a honorable mention btw

[leaden thicket]

Hi guys, have a question about Ice blast. Is this triggering in random moment? Or this is somehow works after skill with 100% chance?

[lucid ore]

There's a hidden stat called Element accumulation, everything you do will accumulate that specific element, in ice blast case- when you use skill it will accumulate it until a breakpoint on the monster and it will trigger. Common minions will trigger faster than bosses etc

[stone leaf]

guys can i have potential table for this build ?

[hidden creek]

i would advise you replace thunderpull and counter with defuse solidification and aegis break though

just go with classic stormsword skyfire build

thunder hybrid are not worth it cuz you have to invest in divine thunder dmg if you want it to actually do something

[buoyant notch]

I respect that. Personally also see the beauty in the design of scorch.

[buoyant notch]

I also agree to this. Very well thought out. I can see great sense of vision in your arguments.

I personally can’t decide between scorch and the new boss bough

So I thought I’d ask

[sage oriole]

anyone still not done wih culminatio nightscream?

we can help each other out -_-

[stone leaf]

yah i tried but i found it not proc the summon potential skill very often

[hidden creek]

''summon potential skill''? this?

you don't really need this to do damages, burn dmg is enough

[dusk crystal]

If my Fatigue bar full no need to play until refresh.?

[fierce light]

Yeah shouldn't run Thunder with Divinity Guard. Thunder wants you to be above 50% Health, Divinity Guard wants you below that.

[fierce light]

You can use them directly in the new system.

[fierce light]

Yeah, you're done for the week

[limpid pecan]

u can grind yama abyss for better rank

or speedrun

or do some challenge

[knotty kiln]

I'm new to this mode, can someone tell me which heroes are strong and easy to play?

[fallen egret]

how can I get this? it's the only one I'm missing and I can't seem to get it

[hidden creek]

https://youtu.be/kRkeLt0mMa0

but it shows 1/1 means you collected it though?

[fallen egret]

yea but can you get it in the current update?

I didn't get it in the last version

[hidden creek]

uhh wdym

[fallen egret]

you had to go to a white portal

and kill the guy with staff first

then lure the axe guy to break a wall or somethin

but there is no more white portal

[hidden creek]

ah

[fallen egret]

so can you get it through the scrolls?

[hidden creek]

white portals only available if you opened cursed chests

and for a chance for cursed chests to appear you need to do the season challenge

[fallen egret]

ooh so it is still possible

I just unlocked cursed chests

but haven't seen a white portal

[hidden creek]

it still there

and the stage still there, this i can confirm

[fallen egret]

I'll do some more runs then hopefully I can find it

[dusk plover]

I’m not sure if it is anymore. I’ve opened up 31 curse chests and have yet to get the lost omen. Plus given that you didn’t get it before but now it’s 1/1 for you now id say they got rid of it and gave it to everyone who didn’t have it yet.

@fierce light have you gotten the lost omen yet out of any of the curse chests? I’ve only gotten health sap, melee sunder and range sunder

[fierce light]

Yeah it still exists, but no longer requires you to be Honed to activate. Just gives you the buff permenantly for that run

[fierce light]

Yes, don't think it can appear below Nightscream though

[dusk plover]

Oh well that makes since, I’ve only been doing hard lol

[fallen egret]

I knew that kinda since the last update it didn't appear in lower stages

and in nightcream you can't pick 2 of the same character

[fierce light]

Yeah really hope they do show the drop rates between each difficulty

[bright dust]

Hi,

relatively new player here.
Saw that you could cash in some cool skins by playing showdown a bit.
I progressed the main quest as far as I could (slightly above 800 sense lvl now) and wanted to look into Doom mode (quest: get stars in that mode).
So I upgraded as best as I could but seemingly the PVE EU servers are dead af because it canceled queue like 3 times after waiting for about 20 min each. xD

With nothing else to do I hopped into the first mission (sense lvl 800) and needed 10 full combos to finish off a single regular enemy, which did not pose a real problem but made the 9 stars quest a bit.. impossible..
.. Is there a trick to it?
I even tried the leaderboard souljades from high ranking contendors that used my hero too.
Currently rerolling those souljades substats and trying to get some better ones that match element. But damn.
Aint no way Ill do first mission in 6 and a half minutes. xD

Any help would be apreaciated!
Kind Regards and thanks in advance.

[hidden creek]

depend on the map itself but most of the time you can't solo it to 3 stars
so yeah get a team

[bright dust]

Well yes, I m currently on the lookout.
But I m afraid, that doesn t fix the part where I deal literally 0 damage.
Or is it supposed to be like that..? Surely there are like builds and stuff that make it a lot easier or faster.

[hidden creek]

because this week doom 1st map got this omen

so you know what to do, try to break their aegis first
or go with burn/poison build which goes through their aegis and directly into hp

[fierce light]

I wouldn't recommend attempting to solo 3-stars Doom until you're max sense with at least a meta set of Souljades.

You can farm Nirriti's Ruins til max or start running Enigma Domain around 850 Sense (clear the first 3 bosses, then leave).

[bright dust]

Well, I am aware of that. But the riposte from countering (even combos whilst they re on 0 aegis) still take unfathomably long.
But perhaps I ll need to look into poison builds a bit more..
Thank you, for the help.

[fierce light]

Against Impassable, it's recommended to go for a parry, as it does significant damage to Aegis when there's the Impassable omen. They can also only throw (Blue) Focus Attacks instead of Purple Attacks so there's plenty room to parry.

Counterstrikes may seem slow, but their high damage and ability to go through Impassable make them worthwhile.

[bright dust]

Most souljades I remember atm just start healing when hitting parry.
Is there a website or something where I could maybe get me some damaging ones?

[hidden creek]

3 stars wasn't meant to be easily achieved
so just work on your sense level, builds and gameplay

[fierce light]

Parry ➡️ Horizontal does a counterstrike. Doom only has a Trios mode as well, so it expects x2.5 the damage it would from a solo. Won't be possible really close to the Sense Level with an early investment build.

[bright dust]

okok
I see.
No cashing in skins just yet, damn.
Last question:
Are there any substats on (maybe certain) souljades, that are worth going for, more than others?
On the Leaderboard I see exceptionally attack, health and sometimes trigger recovery on every single one. Does that mean all the other stats are rather useless here, or is it build specific?

[fierce light]

It's build specific, it'll generally tell you the top 3 for each build on the right side when you're recasting.

[bright dust]

ty
..well.. off to grinding some better souljades I guess..

[fierce light]

Getting the right attributes is pretty easy rn, but it's more so getting the % up alongside going for rare attributes.

[limpid pecan]

whats the fastest build to clear solo enigma?

i tried normal hydroflare (with lvl 9 scorching) and its a tad slow

like 11min or so

and skyfire is slow af

[hidden creek]

with current bosses? poison

it's hard to proc hydroflare frequently on dragon and rock

cuz they keep jumping around

plus with poison if you keep the boss at spawn point and they was killed by a toxin blast, the next boss spawn will also eat the dmg from the toxin blast

also poison is great with mobs clearing

[fierce light]

Thunder Scorch so I've heard. They've managed a 3minute clear iirc

[limpid pecan]

u think they may nerf thunder scorch?

i started little bit preparing for it

got some juicy hp %s on thunder jades

[fierce light]

They might, whether it's this season though idk. The longer they take, the bigger the backlash will be

The most sensible nerf would be to just make it not activate from Thunder Counter.

[fathom bobcat]

Dude, I hate Omnius Rock (last phase). I do 5 defuse in row on Viper (!) and he hits me on the 6th hit. In terms of worst, he is tied for first place with Matron Yushan.

[dusk plover]

Are the CN players complaining about it too or no?

If they aren’t I don’t think they will change anything on it until next season and even then probably not something that directly correlates to it

[fierce light]

Aside from that fake news, haven't really seen any complaints. Mainly uploads using Poison or Thunder Scorch

[bright dust]

Interestingly, are there some meta potential trees for these meta souljade builds on the leaderboard? Those seem awfully needed when going for min maxing on that level..?

[fierce light]

I'll have to check again later when I get to my computer

[dusk plover]

Gotcha, I figure if it gets too bad they nerf the damage a little bit next season. Hopefully not too bad, just keep it a little bit more than the burn jade damage combined at lv12 so it’s still viable as a rare attribute

[fierce light]

Depends on the build, but generally there are 6 damage types:

• Ice
• Thunder
• Burn
• HydroFlare (Burn + Soak)
• Poison
• Thunderbolt

Depending on the ones your build focuses on that's what you aim for in the tree. To be really simple,

• Ice on Blue side
• Thunder on Green side
• Poison on Red side
• Burn needs Blazing Flame
• HydroFlare should get Blazing Flame & Water and Fire Raged

Thunderbolt isn't recommended as a primary damage source, but Divine Storm & Thunderous Power help it.

[neat yarrow]

Found out I can complete the challenge to "clear nightscream or legend having used no more than 3 recovery items" by using Wuchen (recover armor from skill) + armor anima rings. Was a slower clear bc less damage than going thunder rings, but still got it done

And then fire rewards

[fierce light]

Yeah you could do that with Viper & Kurumi as well

[bright dust]

I see.
ty.

So f.e. this right here from the leaderboard uses Ice (naturally) in conjunction with divine thunder? So blue and a bit of green potential?
correct?

[fierce light]

This one in particular is a niche build. It takes advantage of Thunder Counter to activate Scorching. So it ends up being a HydroFlare build.

[fierce light]

They're usually more straight forward than that, but people are abusing the mechanics of different things for it

[inner pebble]

@fierce light what is this and how i use that lol ? im a noob

[fierce light]

You have to defuse (unlocked at hero level 12). I'd recommend checking the Upgrade Heroes section in preparation for more details since it differs slightly for each hero.

[bright dust]

oook so second try..
This right here, all imbued with lightning, uses (naturally [hopefully]) lightning tree, paired with the hydro flare from soaked - Draco Slide and the corresponding burns from the defuse souljades, amplified with the burn from the other two..
aaand copper ward for survivabillity?

[fierce light]

Thunderpull & Thunder Counter usually indicate it's a Thunder build. The give away would be seeing Divine Thunder DMG in their attributes.

If you see Health %, then it's a Burn or HydroFlare based build (since it scales off of Health% with Blazing Flame).

Ice Blast DMG = Ice build, None of the Above with Poison Wielding = Poison build.

[bright dust]

Wait but it does make sense

[steep patio]

What poison potential tree

[half whale]

Does anyone know how to get thunder essences?

[hidden creek]

the build was a galaxy brain build btw
it all happened when devs buffed scorching (rare stat that make your attack applies burn to targer after a succesful parry)
scorching burn dmg is massive, and since higher burn dmg = higher hydroflare dmg, ppl was looking for a way to maximize it
since you can only proc scorching after a parry, relying only on parrying bosses's attacks is not optimal, since they don't always throws blue after blue
then they found out that any parries could proc scorching, including parrying divine thunder from thunderpull and thundercounter
then thunderproof to reduce the thundershock bar so you reached 100% faster, call down divine thunder more frequently
draco stride (proc hydroflare), flaming blade (good burn dmg) and copper ward (increase burn dmg with blazing flame potential)

[fierce light]

From weekly challenges

[fierce light]

All red, except for Armor Guard. Aegis-Break Rage is usually a good bet, after that depends on your Souljades

[bright dust]

Is there a good "budget" build that stands out, which I throw together without spending eons researching and grinding for endgame stuff?
I literally only wanna do the doom domain lvls with 9 stars at max, for the main pve quest.
I would ve opted for either hydroflare or thunder, since these are, what seems to me, the easiest to access, as I already got the entire set, just gotta reroll the substats and infuse the correct element.

[fierce light]

Poison is probably the most budget followed by Burn. HydroFlare requires some investment to get enough Defuse Recovery to not burn yourself to death.

Main issue is acquiring the Souljades

[bright dust]

Could you name some souljades that come to mind?
I saw some poison builds being played on range with f.e. splash cannon of yueshan.
Alternatively I see Viper Ning with enough recovery (and presumeably talent tree) that heals?:

[hearty rivet]

holycow... Wuchen's poison build just deletes everything in topaz enigma o_o;;;

[fierce light]

That's a Poison Moderation build (another expensive niche build) it makes use of [Moderation] to spam Viper's ability to proc Poison Blast faster.

[hearty rivet]

what potentials are recommended for the cyan fang poison build from the blue and green trees?

[fierce light]

Here's a visual breakdown of the potential tree:

[fierce light]

I'd say branch into the bottom right of blue in most cases, or bottom left of green if you're still planning on using your Aegis-Break skill every now and then.

[twin ledge]

U can get them from showdown store but uses showdown seals wouldn’t recommend using them till u have all the weapons in there tho

[drifting lance]

🎉 | JohnWhis8 leveled up!

[hearty rivet]

Thank you!

[atomic spear]

Can somebody pin this?

[fierce light]

Visual Breakdown of Showdown Potential Tree:

[atomic spear]

Well, can somebody pin this one?

[rotund quest]

@fierce light hi boss 🙇‍♀️ can we get ur guide?

I’m actually sad that they removed Yama trio. I enjoy spending time with my 2 other friends losing every night 🤣 trying to climb Yama. Naraka trying to isolated us

[neat yarrow]

Are souljades that mention "horizontal/vertical finisher" just talking about the last attack in a combo?

[fathom bobcat]

Yes, 3th uncharged attack in a row.

[lost bronze]

1ftg remain I go to farm in Nirriti's Ruin so surprise with that drops rate 7 crystal

[verbal axle]

Does Outrage work only against monster that have no Astral Aegis at all or does it also work against mosnters/bosses once you have depleted their Aegis?

[limpid pecan]

ye crystal drops go crazy in nirriti

old void was not dropping this much

[empty rampart]

Only with broken aeg
As far as I remember doesn’t work with simple mobs

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Amelian leveled up!

[verbal axle]

I see, thank you

[lost bronze]

yeh, seem like they bonus drop rate in sec part 100% and 75% rewards in the lasted update for Nirriti's ruin

[drifting lance]

🎉 | LordShen leveled up!

[flat pier]

@fierce light what stats other than Poison Dmg should I get for poison build?

@hidden creek ?

help help please

[hidden creek]

poison blast dmg is actually not a prio on poison build

[flat pier]

what are the stats i should get then o.0?

[hidden creek]

.

[flat pier]

thank you thank you!!!!

what rare attributes are good?

windfall?

moderation?

[hidden creek]

windfall

mod poison just on viper i think

scorching does have some use but eh

windfall the best

[flat pier]

thank you

muah muah

what do i do with this? deconstruct to get a flux shard and replace?

[hidden creek]

no this is good

scorching incineration is good for hydroflare build

[flat pier]

but it's not windfall.. it's scorching though o.0?

ooooh

yeah... you's right!

[hidden creek]

also you don't use incineration on poison build

[flat pier]

eh, i don't?

[hidden creek]

for viper get 4 poison jades, then cyan fang poison wielding and defuse solidification

[flat pier]

i have one incineration with scorching and health and stuff already o.0

[hidden creek]

oh

[hidden creek]

this one is better though

[hidden creek]

this one lower stats

[flat pier]

ok i'll switch elements and replace the jades 😄

so i should get defuse solidification for viper? or just poison build in general?

[hidden creek]

yeah you can roll that 25.5% poison blast dmg to health %

gonna get 12.75% hp

[flat pier]

how about recasting the stat values here? not the same o.0?

or recasting values cost more and not worth it?

[hidden creek]

yes

tbh it's all about your luck but

[flat pier]

oh i did not know that omg.. there goes me wasting again

[hidden creek]

in general you want a jade with high% on multiple attributes to begin with

doesn't matter what the attributes are

then reroll them into desired attributes

[limpid pecan]

if u need old jade with good stats u can use choice gifts from previous season

to get a souljade with high stats

if u try a few times

[flat pier]

oh my god

i did not know that T_T

thanks again both

[mild quiver]

Has this been pinned yet? Cause it should be

[hidden creek]

it hasn't

and it should be yes

[mild quiver]

Only mods can pin stuffs, dammit

[hidden creek]

can just ask them to do it

[mild quiver]

Eh sure

Lemme check to see who's up

@cobalt dome can you pin this for us?

They dipped

[hidden creek]

[cobalt dome]

I'm not sure if it's okay for me to go, so I'm checking. I'll go temporarily under my authority.

[fierce light]

Works against enemies who's Aegis is broken and who have no Aegis to begin with.

[verbal axle]

Thats great, thank you

[fierce light]

Attack and DMG to Boss (or non-Boss if you're only using it for mobbing) are priorities for Poison Builds. On Wuchen for example, Poison Blast only makes up 3.03% of your damage output in his standard rotation. So +30% Poison Blast DMG would be equivalent to +0.9% Damage Increase (30% * 3.03% = 0.909%).

[flat pier]

zayro-sama, when will you update the site XD i feel bad tagging you and asking every couple of days.....

[fierce light]

It's going through a large reformatting, so having to learn some new stuff

Going to be a little bit

[flat pier]

oooh oooh, you need help with hosting and developing, let me know o.0 i can help, too

[hollow herald]

Nirriti's Ruins, does the number of souljades rewarded depend on how well you complete the quest? I keep receiving different numbers of souljades and I'm not sure why

[fierce light]

Should only differ depending on the fatigue range you're in (0-600, 601-1800, 1801-2400).

[hollow herald]

Thanks!

[fierce light]

Oh and also whether or not you complete all the zones.

[rotund quest]

how to complete this quest lol

[hidden creek]

musket + slowshot + headshot + enemies is down from aegis break + ranged anima rings

[rotund quest]

kurumi shot doesnt count ?

[hidden creek]

kurumi ranged weapon is crossbow

[rotund quest]

repeating crossbow

[hidden creek]

and that weapon can't deal a 6k dmg with a single projectile

[rotund quest]

i see so it means first hit

[fierce light]

So weird, why is yours 6,000 when mine is 20k.

[hidden creek]

mine was 6k

and it was done with 6k too

so not a typo

idk if 20k ppl get it done by just doing 6k

[limpid pecan]

i had 6k and did it with 6k

[woeful bay]

do bosses receive more dmg when the aegis is down?

so I should use annihilate lighting when the boss is down in hero's assemble?

[spice canyon]

Yes and yes

[hidden creek]

everything receive more dmg when they're down

[woeful bay]

thanks!

[fierce light]

All enemies receive 2x damage when their Astral Aegis is broken.

[warm cloak]

Can someone explain me why the thunder scorch build is working with ice and poison wielding but not thunder ?

[fierce light]

0 Thunder-Wielding = faster build-up of Thundershock from Thunderpull.

[warm cloak]

I see thanks for the reply 😉

[sage oriole]

did anyone here completed fearsome shot mission on nirittri

in whch we have to do 6k damage in 1 shot

[magic prairie]

Musket

[fathom bobcat]

Ye, Feria or Valda + anima rings for ranged weapons. Make headshot on boss in when he doesn't have aegis and deal massive damage.

[thorn narwhal]

do i need to take first hit of thunder to counter second or there's a way to counter both

[fierce light]

Counter the first and don't do any inputs till the last

[thorn narwhal]

i mean the first wave not the second

[hearty rivet]

It's getting tiresome that from most of my 100% nirriti runs I get only blue souljades. And if not it's usually 1 or 2 purples.

[peak finch]

A very generous game!

[short meadow]

You got rare bro

💀

[woeful monolith]

Old System Recast......

[woeful monolith]

or Im not sure I understand what happened here....what attribute were you recasting

[short meadow]

Nope its new recast System

[woeful monolith]

so he was recasting attirbute on the rare again......

[short meadow]

Yeah

[woeful monolith]

that wont ev er work

[short meadow]

To get another rare i think

[woeful monolith]

Ya thats not going to work as far as I know

kinda lucky it even gave him the mod back lol

[short meadow]

Nope if you recast a rare attribute, There is a chance to get another rare

[mild quiver]

Holy sh*t, I just completed the use no more than 3 healing items challenge on solo, man, I would have also complete the not using rebirth challenge too, if it wasn't for that damn toxic mushroom

[woeful monolith]

I m not 100 per cent on that, but either way its a bad idea. You could be getting a seperate rare recasting a jade without . Not only you get a whole nother Rare but you will likely get it faster imo

[woeful monolith]

Wuchen and go Yang. Made it super easy just end of each round use up your Spikes to heal.

[hidden creek]

you do realize that the reason he's recasting it because it's a jade with multiples high % attributes right?

[mild quiver]

Yeah, I was going Wuchen and aiming for the Yin Yang challenge, saving Survival for last as it's the easiest, but the game decided not to give me any Yin Yang and instead a bunch of Survival anima instead, so I went full Survival and only use Wuchen skill to heal

[woeful monolith]

Im down to do it on Trios if u wanna rock it

[rotund quest]

You probably done with 6k

[short meadow]

There is 2 quest (6k and 20k)

[hidden creek]

there are?

i got just the 6k

[short meadow]

Yeah

I did then

Them

[hidden creek]

then why i got just the 6k lol

[short meadow]

I think devs hate you

[hard glade]

https://tenor.com/view/shreks-meme-gif-14773907558805575638

[hidden creek]

🤔

mid giving me the screenshot of both the 6k and 20k quests being done?

[short meadow]

Who?

[hidden creek]

you

cuz you're the only one saying that you got both

[short meadow]

I'm on vacation at this moment..havant played for 17days

Wait 12 days ig

[short meadow]

I think i'm not the only one who got this

[hidden creek]

i've only seen either 6k or 20k

not both

[short meadow]

@hidden creek look dark got 20k too

[hidden creek]

yes but just 1 quest

not 2

[short meadow]

I will check later then.

[woeful monolith]

So the only have 3 Anime Collection Types.......Your first pick of frost thudner poison counts as 1.......and then I have to have only 2 other collections IE Burn /element n n othing else right

[short meadow]

When i will back home

[twin ledge]

I did both

[hidden creek]

screenshot pls

[twin ledge]

I’m not on

I’ve been on genshin

[hidden creek]

of course

[twin ledge]

?

4 in the morning reset is about to happen on genshin

[hidden creek]

okay

[twin ledge]

Wait is the quest we talking about again?

Just to make sure

[drifting lance]

🎉 | tabbie leveled up!

[twin ledge]

Oh yea I did then

I’ll check it once I do my daily’s on genshin after reset

[hidden creek]

k

[flat pier]

but the rewards are the same?

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Vang GummyBear leveled up!

[flat pier]

I hope the rewards are the same because i only got 5k too

6k*

[hidden creek]

reward are the same if you got just the 6k or just the 20k

but some ppl said they got both

meaning they got x2 reward, if it's true

[twin ledge]

Wait where did the 2nd one come in?

[flat pier]

impossible though, maybe they thought it was like tier quests like the others?

[hidden creek]

it's not

if it's a tier quest

there will be 2 dots below the badge

[twin ledge]

No only one of them I remember doing 6k with tarka cannon did 22k with boss aegis down?

Ima have to check I don’t remember seeing that 20k

[hidden creek]

like this

[hidden creek]

so you got just the 6k quest?

[twin ledge]

That’s what I remember doing but haven’t been on 2 days have to check again

I’m confused yea ima have to check it because I’ve done all quest that could be done atm but don’t remember seeing the 20k

Do have to open 4 more curse boxes tho

If I remember correctly

[hidden creek]

it's either 6k or 20k, but not both, i've never seen anyone got both

[short meadow]

Btw Does it really that matters?

Seems like we can't make 1000 point except all those quest

[hidden creek]

it matters to me

[short meadow]

Why

[hidden creek]

cuz why not

🤷‍♂️

[short meadow]

Is there anything new between these 10days?

[hidden creek]

in showdown? no

[flat pier]

it matters because meow says so 😄

[limpid pecan]

kinda crappy we have to wait so long to reach 1000 points

[flat pier]

wait.. i thought we will reach it this reset?

most people should be about ~980 by now?

[hidden creek]

i mean consider reaching 1100 is the whole season challenge

it's still ~79 days left lol

i woudn't say we ''have to wait for so long''

[short meadow]

Is there any more quests Compare to 79 days?

I think i did all quest on nrittis ruin except curse chest

[hidden creek]

surely you haven't cleared this

[short meadow]

2/5

[hidden creek]

outside of nirriti there's those that you can't complete immediately

[short meadow]

1 sec

Why there is 3 quest on Enigma peak?

[hidden creek]

there's 3 tier

[short meadow]

Its mean there will be 3 peak this season

[hidden creek]

nah

[short meadow]

Then?

[hidden creek]

prolly will be 6-7-8 bosses

[short meadow]

Oh

How many peak in there?

2 or 3?

[hidden creek]

2

[short meadow]

Last season was Ice+thunder

[short meadow]

Oh same as before

[hidden creek]

still the same, but i mean this season challenge is just ''enigma peak''

doesn't have to be ice or thunder

as long as you kill 6-7-8 bosses it counts

ig

[short meadow]

Gotcha

Easy then

[hidden creek]

so we'll be able to get to 1100 on 26 sept i think

[short meadow]

Thats great.

I think im still on Solar 2

XD

[hidden creek]

yama is ez

as long as you got to the sense level

old burn/hydroflare build still going strong

[short meadow]

Like i said...last i have played 12 days ago

[hidden creek]

yea just saying

[short meadow]

So i didnt even played 2 weeks

[short meadow]

Yeah burn + scorch

[hidden creek]

that it's much easier compare to previous season

[short meadow]

But its hard to get on top 10 this time

[hidden creek]

ig

[short meadow]

Some dude with 30sec clear time

[hidden creek]

yeah they spent alot of time gacha the boss mech

not just yama, speedrun too

[short meadow]

Yeh

[hidden creek]

constantly rerun looking for a run that the boss use a blue attack at the beginning

[limpid pecan]

it really sucks to be stuck at +9 scorching tho

i get moderation every time

so many good runs ruined coz boss is 10% hp left

after last scorching proc

[fierce light]

The fact this boss can fly during some of its attacks doesn't help

[thorny bay]

are they gonna nerf thunder or substats?

these builds are ugly and you dont even need skill to use them

[limpid pecan]

now that i think about it

wouldnt counter trigger recovery be quite beneficial

to the thunder scorch build?

[hidden creek]

it does
you just get other stats that took prio
scorching, windfall, hp, attk, dmg to boss

[white oxide]

what is the most effective way to get high soul jade? for beeing qiuckly op and get to a high point in the yama´s abyss

[hidden creek]

9k luck enigma domain with 150% buff

and nirriti

[white oxide]

okay thanks ^^ so 9k luck min.?

[hidden creek]

no

9k luck enigma means trios and all 3 ppl using this
3k luck each ppl = 9k

[white oxide]

ah okay okay i see

thanks ^^

the only problem that i have me and my friend did not completed the story on hard XD because were missing one more player for 3 player mode and together in the 3 player mode is hard... ^^

[mild quiver]

If it's possible, I want help doing the 3 type anima challenge, so if you can help, I would be greatly appreciated, I will use Kurumi and support you

Not today though, tomorrow, if you're free, you can hit me up

[hidden creek]

he's on NA and you're on SEA 😂

[mild quiver]

Ah shit then

[hidden creek]

but i'm on sea though

[mild quiver]

Oh~

Hit me up tomorrow if you have the time then

[hidden creek]

[jade depot]

anyone bored to farm showdown with me

eu

[warped falcon]

Can I use the cannon or is the musket the only weapon you can use to complete the 6k damage quest?

[hidden creek]

can do with cannon

[white oxide]

if u search for 2 people me and my friend are also searching for a mate ^^ to play showdown with but my friend is currently offline i f u want we can add us and play later or tomorrow 🙂

[jade depot]

sure

i want to farm for 1030

i'm on 956 sense

[white oxide]

uff we are not so high XD my sense is currently on 816

i started playing like a month ago or somethign like that idk

[jade depot]

:o

welcome to the game

[white oxide]

thanks 😄

and my friend are also not so high with his sense i think like around 750 or higher but not at 800

[jade depot]

i wanted to farm today before the fatigue resets

[white oxide]

he played more normal ranked than showdown :D^^

[jade depot]

😭

[white oxide]

thats fair sadly i can´t help you... im so sorry im willing to help but cant 😄

[jade depot]

it's okay

[white oxide]

maybe after the reset ^^ if ur still up then 😄

[jade depot]

we can play later

[white oxide]

nice 😄

[fierce light]

Dunno, all they need to do is make Scorching not proc from Thunder Counter and I think it'll be fair.

[fierce light]

If you're still on Hard, you probably need to be getting your Sense Level up. Nirriti's Ruins is your best bet till you're strong enough to tackle it.

[white oxide]

yeah i guess thanks for advise ^^ 😄 im doing this all the time but most of the time i dont get any high jade drops 😄 thats the problem 😄

i mean i can do it solo but if i wanna do it with my friend we need a third guy for that 😄 and first of all my friends needs better jade drops for tackling the hard mode ^^ 😄

[mild quiver]

@fierce light for the list of builds you made, is there a specific potential path for each of them?

This list

[fierce light]

Yeah it's a slow process, you'll gain like 1-3 Sense Levels per run. But once you get your Fire Forge going your runs will be quicker especially with a decent Trio.

[white oxide]

okay nice one 😄

[mild quiver]

Any idea about this one? @fierce light

Gonna need to ask a mod to pin these

@heavy gulch can you help us pin these?

[heavy gulch]

[civic harness]

those path benifits apply in both normal and nirriti ruins right?

[spice canyon]

Potential and jade is not affected in nirriti ruins, purely just play with anima ring (additional stat from anima collection)

[fierce light]

Nirriti has a completely separate progression system. Nothing outside of it affects it.

[woeful monolith]

If stormstride sword contributes to 4 percent of your damage.....enchanced thunderbolt is 10 percent per Jade.....so thats giving you another 0.4 percent damage to your Stormstride sword right......

[fierce light]

Yes, but the % jumps up quite a bit the more Defuse Counterattacks you do. Plus there's not really any other option that increases your DPS if you go the Aegis-Break Rage route, since you already get plenty of Honed Duration from Divine Doom.

[woeful monolith]

I just wanted to make sure I understood that and ya there really isnt many options.....is the toxiic/burn immunity any good

[woeful monolith]

Would running like Thunder Mastery/Stormstride sword cause more activation then defuse solid

Obviously getting less attack and losing the 40% but with all the thunderbolts could they cause more poison activiation

[fierce light]

No, it ends up leaving you even more vulnerable cause it deletes your armor first.

[fierce light]

Depends on the character. Thunder Mastery wouldn't do much accumulation though.

Usually use Stormstride Sword and Defuse Solid together anyway.

[river stratus]

@fierce light if i swap on ice wielding all my hydroflare build, i lose some dps ? or is just a negligible amount?

[limpid pecan]

im thinking you could keep at least some jades on thunder still

to proc the potential with burn

[fierce light]

You lose the extra Burn & Elemental Accumulation from Flame-Thunder Chant for a slight heal.
The Burn does a little less than half the damage of a Defuse Flaming Blade, nearly equivalent to [Scorching] +1.

[limpid pecan]

going 50-50 shouldnt be too big problem i guess

since i believe only 3 jades overlap

[hidden creek]

it doesn't matters honestly

[fierce light]

Mainly good for helping keep Incineration active for Ember.

[hidden creek]

my hydroflare build is looking like this

[limpid pecan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1173036867881545768.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=IveGonePastThePointOfInsanity

[hidden creek]

cuz idw to make new jades for thunderpull scorching build and poison build

and the dmg diff from when it has 6 thunder wielding is like unrecognizable

this sht does nothing

😂

[fierce light]

I'm confused, why would you use the same Souljades from your Hydroflare on Poison? Only Attribute they share really is Attack.

[hidden creek]

it's not optimal ofc but just one hp attribute wouldn't hurt that bad so

🤷‍♂️

[fierce light]

Why go any Ice then?

[hidden creek]

what ice

[fierce light]

Ice-Wielding on your Souljades

[hidden creek]

cuz

[fierce light]

Oh

[hidden creek]

my point is thunder wielding on classic hydroflare build is just for flame-thunder chant and that sht does minimal dmg so it doesn't matters

so you can go with whatever wielding on hydroflare honestly, in my case i do it bcoz it save me from making new jades

[fierce light]

It's probably the most impactful for Hydroflare since it helps build Ember faster. Helps with Skyfire since it helps with mobbing.

[hidden creek]

well yeah i don't run ember

😂

[fierce light]

Oh just noticed

Mine as well retire that Hydroflare build 💀

[river stratus]

next yama stage have hellhole👀 better hold thunder wielding

[hidden creek]

i dislike the hybrid build gameplay

anyway i'm not looking to be on the top rank so yeah whatever

it works fine then it's fine, as long as it's not completely outdated lol

[fierce light]

I could see next Yama Stage using this Potential.

[hidden creek]

with how easy it is rn do you even need to get specific potential plan for it lol

[fierce light]

If you're trying to compete for the top, yeah

Good ol' Ember spam

[hidden creek]

i mean you could kill the boss so fast that the burn from hellhole aren't even a threat

[strong wadi]

@fierce light ty for these!

[fierce light]

Idk, will have to see how much it does. Usually does quite a bit when the Recommended Sense is close to yours.

Just would use Ember in place of Defuse Flaming Blade on the Thunder Scorch build.

[thorn narwhal]

oh so trying to counter more interrupts the period window, was wondering why, thanks!

[flat pier]

@fierce light are you saying that hydroflare build that you gave us is not usable anymore?

and to go with hydroflare thunder counter?

cos I was just working on my draco stride T_T and it's not even perfect yet T_T

do i need to work on another build now T_T?

[hidden creek]

thunder scorch still need draco anyway

[fierce light]

It's still very usable, only beat by Thunder Scorch in Bossing.

[late raptor]

@fierce light hello dark what is the best poison build for yoto?

[fierce light]

• Noxious Blast
• Pestilent Pool
• Infectious Touch
• Miasma Drive
• Aerial Rend • Ice-Wielding
• Defuse • Solidification

[late raptor]

you are the best man ❤️ ty so much

and the tree also for yoto?

[fierce light]

Attack Rotation
When Poison Blast is off-cooldown and Defuse • Solidifaction isn't active

• Aerial Rend • Ice-Wielding (2nd Charge) → Aerial Rend • Ice-Wielding (1st Charge)
  When Poison Blast is off-cooldown and Defuse • Solidification is active
• 2x Aerial Rend • Ice-Wielding (1st Charge)

Immediately after Poison Blast goes off

• Aerial Rend • Ice-Wielding (1st Charge) → Martial Skill

When Poison Blast is on-cooldown

• Aerial Rend • Ice-Wielding (1st Charge)

[late raptor]

wow impressive

[amber terrace]

[flat pier]

@fierce light is there a canon poison potential separately or same poison tree would do? o.0?

[fierce light]

Likely something like this

[flat pier]

ahh so same as usual poison build 😄

thank you thank you

[flat pier]

oh oh is there a skyfire potential plan too?

since skyfire is still there in your list

[flat pier]

thank you!!

[subtle bramble]

Has anyone gotten the hidden stages from the cursed chest? Keeps giving me every curse except for that one

[flat pier]

yeah..

it gave me double boss room twice in a single run

"LOST"

I did not have time to breathe...

[fierce light]

Have to be on Nightscream or higher for it to appear.

Seems to be a much higher chance of it taking you to the room as well

[flat pier]

@fierce light how do we stay alive without defuse/counter trigger recovery with hydroflare build, because it burn us back o.0?

[fierce light]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1052311236466970754/1285718617090035854/G5I57GX.png?ex=66eb4a45&is=66e9f8c5&hm=187a69ecee51081984dfe3005cd804e63aff978d57ff6fab793c8dc0be2d1643&

Yeah my newer one includes a recommendation for it

[flat pier]

oh i see.. thank you very much. i'll save this!!

[flat pier]

how much scorching does this need?

12?

or 9 is okay?

[fierce light]

Hydroflare? It doesn't need it to work, but the more the better.

[flat pier]

i feel like the boss hp drops faster after i counter and attack and dodge, rather than defuse and attack and dodge

maybe i am doing something wrong

is there like a rotation or your game play i can watch?

[fierce light]

Scorching Lv. 9 does more damage than the 3 Burn jades (Defuse Flaming Blade, Defuse Raging Flame & Ember).

[flat pier]

heh, sorry for bothering you but i can clear enigma domain with skyfire but i can't do it with hydroflare

i can only finish until boss 7... o.o

[fierce light]

How much Defuse Recovery do you have?

[flat pier]

700

747 to be exact o.o

[fierce light]

and what Sense Level lol?

[flat pier]

1025

skill issue maybe..? totally new to hydroflare build.. stayed with skyfire all of last season o.o

[fierce light]

On what Hero? Hydroflare not really the easiest to play for Solo Enigma due to it's limited range unless you activate Scorching.

Best I can say is practice using it in Chasm Undertow and Toppled Mountains since those seem to be the two most common bosses at the end iirc.

[flat pier]

wuwu

[fierce light]

Oh ew. I don't like Hydroflare on him at all.

[flat pier]

i think kurumi fits well with hydroflare o.0 for me at least

wuwu defuse makes it hard for me to apply soaked

[fierce light]

Yeah you have to dodge cancel his Defuse. Don't like it cause his follow-ups after dashing feel clunky.

[flat pier]

i was today years old when i learnt that viper, temulch and kurumi's defuses are so amazing o.0 you cannot chain defuse but if you mistime it and did it early, you can do it again immediately without stamina cost!!

like omg, i just found out 5 minutes ago in yama!! omg

my life is now easier hahahaha

[bronze wharf]

@flat pier

[fierce light]

Yeah the patch starting this season fixed Defuse Solve to where it's actually reliable now.

[flat pier]

it's 5 am... go sleep!

_>

[bronze wharf]

Relaxing in SKY COTL , after Crying and Grinding in Naraka

[inner frigate]

where to get all those souljades
i am totally new to this mode
rn just doing 5 Nirritis per day
want to make poison mod viper
750 lvl bust still have just one souljade from the list

[hearty rivet]

I got all of my golden poison souljades from the battlepass random chests

[thorn narwhal]

which purple souljades i should lock and be careful not to deconstruct important ones like thunder proof

[lucid ore]

Hi, anyone know what damage type the "hit damage" in Nirriti's Ruin rings apply to?
i.e Cannon damage doesn't seems to be affected by it

[fierce light]

Afaik anything that's not burn is boosted by it

[lucid ore]

Been doing Nirriti normal with cannon and noticed hit damage doesn't increase dmg at all, last run I had lv.3 confluence and did the same dmg

[fierce light]

It adds on top of your attack though, so the effect is minor

[lucid ore]

is it a different number than the shown number?

[fierce light]

Elemental Confluence?

[lucid ore]

wealth confluence

[drifting lance]

🎉 | DDLaw leveled up!

[lucid ore]

it should increase hit dmg by 66%

[fierce light]

Hmm that would be weird, guess the explosion doesn't count

Yet another thing I have to test

😮‍💨

[lucid ore]

[agile pecan]

@fierce light how to get secrets colection in niriti ?

[lucid ore]

I think it works with musket, just tested it- hit for 41k

[fierce light]

It's probably a direct hit thing

Still weird, I swear Sub-Zero Seal worked with it

[lucid ore]

yeah I tried it with cannon, hitting directly and without do the same dmg

[agile pecan]

@fierce light how to get secrets rings in niriti?

[fierce light]

Gotta keep playing pretty much, they'll show up eventually

The useless rock and not so useless can only show up if you're on Viper, Matari, Temulch, Tarka & Yoto Hime (unconfirmed).

[mild quiver]

Somehow just finished both the Yin Yang anima and not using rebirth challenge with red ping, the game did not want me to win, but I powered through it

[sage oriole]

has anyone completed the the challenge in which we gotta do 6k damage with a single shot?
if yes then how?

[drifting lance]

🎉 | senpai leveled up!

[magic prairie]

Musket. Headshot boss when aegis down. Few ranged rings are enough

[sage oriole]

thanks buddy

[pliant steppe]

Anyone wanna join me for showdown.

Nvm finally found a match after 10 minutes

[sage oriole]

which character has the highest defuse based and normal damage?

[subtle bramble]

Quick question about culmination ns drop rates, is it worth trying to get the gold souljades on anything less than 150% Rewards

[fierce light]

Wuchen, Feria Shen and Yoto Hime have the highest Defuse damage if you use Stormstride Sword, other than that, they generally deal the same amount of damage (sharing a motion value of 2.20 for most of them).

[subtle bramble]

I completed it like 5-6 times today and it keeps dropping just blue jades and against the odds

[hidden creek]

you should only farm nightscream maps on 75% anyway

150% is for 9k enigma
100% is nirriti
75% is for specific sj farming maps

[sage oriole]

thanks for the info buddy

[subtle bramble]

Guess my luck just sucks with the gold jades

Last season I couldn't get Skyfire from autumn plains at all

[sage oriole]

me 2

i also didn't get raging flame the whole last season

got it at the first match of this season

[fierce light]

I usually just aim for them either from Nirriti or through Conversions. But with the drop rate of Golds and Purples being so bad right now, probably better off farming their specific mission.

[sage oriole]

yup

just farm enigma if you can

for gold jades

after defeating 6 boss in a match you get a gaurenteed legendary jade

[hidden creek]

sj drop rate is so bad rn that the whole 150% bar should only be used to run 9k enigma, chug elixir if you have

[sage oriole]

most of the time

[subtle bramble]

I got infectious tocuh off a random gold jade from chamber store, but pestilent pools and noxious blast still nowhere

Will try Enigma again thoo

[sage oriole]

they are not dropped in enigma

[fierce light]

There's always the rewards from Enigma Peak you can use to get them as well

[subtle bramble]

Oh and Miasma drive dropped the first time I completed forest peril lol

[sage oriole]

they only drop in stry mode

[subtle bramble]

Ah nvm then those two are all I need rn

[sage oriole]

or from showndown pass

[fierce light]

Enigma Topaz has the worst drop pool unfortunately.

[sage oriole]

it is locked rn

[fierce light]

Mainly Ranged Souljades, no one uses.

[subtle bramble]

Will continue with culmination then, hopefully they'll pop up eventually

[sage oriole]

it si still good for sense farming

[fierce light]

I know, but they mentioned not getting a Souljade till the end of a season.

[subtle bramble]

Ain't no way I can afford the bp after buying that 5k attire box yesterday

[fierce light]

Yeah it's the most efficient Sense farm since it drops the most Souljades per Fatigue

[sage oriole]

on nightscream

[sage oriole]

haha

[sage oriole]

yeah

that was what i was trying to say

[subtle bramble]

Yepp completed it 5-6 times on nightscream and it hasn't dropped those two jades yet

[sage oriole]

it will eventually

until when can it hide from you

my fatigue is almost 2k rn

i can't even get decent jades for my sense rn

i will cintinue farming after 6 hours when the fatigue resets

[fierce light]

Damage Parser is coming along nicely

[sage oriole]

where to check ?

[fierce light]

Still very much a WIP, but here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mFC-5BBNE49KBiTL_vjerDu-Dr8S3309pLkJZRp0D18/edit?usp=sharing

Doesn't calculate Burn and Hydroflare DMG properly yet and have to test it with Stormstride/Thunder Sword still.

[sage oriole]

thnx

[fierce light]

Going to have to make a personal copy to use it.

[sage oriole]

np

[fierce light]

You can also add more rows by just copy and pasting the bottom-most rows.

[sage oriole]

i made a personal

copy and

it shows completely changed interface

[fierce light]

How so?

[sage oriole]

i mean how to make it work

i selected the hero and then?

got it

[sage oriole]

thank you very mush

[fierce light]

Oh, yeah start in the Stat Reader tab, then put your information in everything but the stats part. Then head to the DMG Parser [WIP] tab.

[short meadow]

[molten lagoon]

Does anyone know if you have to complete all the seasonal quests to get the hero badges?

[short meadow]

Mybe

[fathom bobcat]

I guess we still don't know the exact values for second and subsequent stages of number of сhallenges, so we can't draw exact conclusions either.

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Гусев/dagot leveled up!

[hidden creek]

don't need

[fierce light]

Still jealous CN has an app like this: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1pm421H7mG/?vd_source=e436bcf4333345077b464ebf0fc7cf19

[hidden creek]

these are what left for me
add them together i got 1080
and there's still more stages which gives more points

[fierce light]

Yeah it's looking like we can get more than 1100 points

Not even necessary to do this if you can do Peak

[strong wadi]

does the red secret anima ring just randomly appear? Im just missing that one and rock

[hidden creek]

only appear if you use viper/tarka/matari/temulch/yoto (yoto is unconfirmed)

[strong wadi]

gotcha ty~

[hidden creek]

and since multiple people says that if useless rock appear it will appear early (likely before 5th stage), i got mine at 2nd stage too

if you wanna farm for it can try enter and reset if it doesn't appear early

[fluid berry]

got atomize, thats a kinda good anima ring*

[flat pier]

I just realized this showdown season this time, it is only 3 months

not 5 months anymore

XD happy happy happy

[flat pier]

idk, i cannot do peak 8th boss last season o.o

i did not have friends to help me either xD but this season hopefully....

peak doesn't allow solo, correct?

[fierce light]

Yup. Peak and Speedrun are forced Trios (although Speedrun you can solo to an extent).

Glad we finally have a dedicated Solo mode for end-game though.

[flat pier]

yeah, i can solo speedrun some bosses, not the mobbing ones o.0

nor the gelid yushan boss

i am weak against gelid both forms, hard to defuse...

rock first form is hard without wuwu too o.o

[flat pier]

so happy about yama and how they changed it 😄

[fierce light]

Yeah solo bossing feels great since you can actually react to things instead of having to predict.

[fierce light]

It finally dropped one for me.

[hearty rivet]

yaaay!

[limpid pecan]

how often they drop?

[fierce light]

First one since they added the ability to recast (4 chapters ago iirc).

[limpid pecan]

ok i thought so

friend dropped one too recently

[verbal axle]

Is this about the jade itself or that the jade dropped with the scorching stuff on it? I am absolutely clueless about showdown endgame

[warped falcon]

Whats the best souljades for matari?

[fierce light]

A drop with a rare attribute on it.

[hearty rivet]

I grew fond of the hydroflare build for her. Recently with solidification, and last week tried copper ward.

Saw many cyan fang poison build users too on the leaderboard but haven't figured out how to play that.

Also, ppl do crazy black magic stuff using that thundercounter-scorch build too.

[fierce light]

#👾┃showdown message
Probably this.

[verbal axle]

I see

[dusk plover]

@fierce light double check for me but did they just shadow nerf burn/scorching? I’m not doing the same amount of damage in the same Yama level as last week

[dusk plover]

They did. Either that or something with tarka/dual blades

Just did a solo enigma, nothing has changed on my build and got desert map. Took me a lot long than usual on that map, like 3 min difference doing the same route build etc.

[fierce light]

I can test it right quick

I have a Scorching Lv. 1

[dusk plover]

Desert map usually takes me about a little over 9 minutes and the one I just ran (did have 2 dragons) was almost 12 min. Really felt like I was doing a lot less damage as tarka

[fierce light]

Darn things won't throw a Focus Attack at me lol

Okay

It's doing the right amount of damage

[dusk plover]

When I get back on I’ll play it as other heros and see if it’s just a tarka thing?

[fierce light]

I think they might have buffed Enigma though

It's taking me a lot longer to do as well

[dusk plover]

Hmm well that would make sense too

Yama didn’t seem off that bad but when I went to enigma it made me think it was burn/scorching they nerfed not buffing the actual levels

[fierce light]

Yeah I was getting 5-6minute clears, but now I'm at 8minute+

[summer ridge]

Showdown

Wish they would put more characters in showdown quickly

[fierce light]

Weird, it converted the quest to 6k, but I did manage to hit for 25k.

[hidden creek]

[fierce light]

So I guess 979 is the max that can be reached rn

Ooo Eerie Scorch for Paragon 1

Dang they kinda messed up for making him do his swarm twice

We finally have a place to practice eerie bosses

[dusk plover]

Great 😓 I gotta farm enigma for the jade fragments and they buff them

[fierce light]

Curious the strat people are going to use for this stage.

[hearty rivet]

I wonder, will they keep adding levels till the end of season / how high it'll go up

[fierce light]

Fastest I've managed so far. Thunder Scorch sounds pretty difficult here ngl.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1052311236466970754/1286131945385885778/Ui9BW3K.png?ex=66eccb36&is=66eb79b6&hm=0be06d1c22b8ccab7a71228e0693a79124aaaebc7d27ee0622a763c907b8f4df&

[fluid berry]

yamas abyss top 500 yoto hime. so the bars not super high, but ill still wear it with pride

[hearty rivet]

Last enigma boss did become super obnoxious x.X

[stable pawn]

hi darkzero, many people reference you on the showdown things 🙂 great job you're doing helping the community. keep it up

[lost bronze]

wow

[fierce light]

Glad to help.

[fierce light]

Had to pop an elixir too

[lost bronze]

Elixir with gold key ?

is that your first match ?

[fierce light]

Like my 2nd iirc

[lost bronze]

That's really cool but it's not in a set-up jades sad

[fierce light]

Getting the first rare isn't so bad, it's mainly the 2nd's that I'm concerned about

[dusk plover]

Have you gotten celestra map on enigma yet? I’m really hoping they didn’t take it out of the loop and it’s just desert now

I’m at 405 fatigue no potion and haven’t gotten a different map at all. Also just rolled moderation 20% on my 2 rare incineration replacing the moderation 20% I had on it already to try and get windfall or scorching

[fierce light]

I don't really know the names of the maps, I think they removed the first map though. Glad they did cause it took like 50% longer to do.

[heavy gulch]

https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1286185822835703889

[flat pier]

why are they releasing yama stages 1 per week omg

[flat pier]

where's the best place to farm shrouded jades?

[subtle bramble]

Played Enigma just now and got the celestra map

Yesterday kept getting desert one

I finally got all poison jades and the builds are so fun

Don't have moderation yet on anything so I'm using cyan fang for viper and it's super fun to spam the blue moon attack lol

[flat pier]

ok so the celestra and desert one are there yeah but i haven't seen the tree one for the past 2 weeks

i hope the tree map is gone though.. most annoying one o.0

[flat pier]

yeah.. easiest to build and most fun to play, especially for farmig enigma

@fierce light @hidden creek what do i do with this please advise

Does windfall stack?

[polar light]

Yes it does

[limpid pecan]

its good

[flat pier]

Oh it is good?

Yay

[flat pier]

So I leave it as it is and be happy?

[subtle bramble]

Just got second windfall on a jade too and was wondering the same lol

Speaking of windfall, I have a silkworm cocoon jade that has it, should I just deconstruct it for the flux jade?

[flat pier]

i guess so.. yeah.. you don't use it...

[subtle bramble]

Ah just realised deconstructing it only gives one shard

[polar light]

Yeah

But if u r thinking on getting the thunder scorch build

Better luck on the other jades

[verbal axle]

Is the sense scaling in the normal Showdown story missions and Yamas different? I have no issues clearing Gold 1/Sense 810 with my 775 Yoto, but doing the 770 Story boss felt significantly more different.

[fluid steppe]

are the attributes order priority?

[flat pier]

yeah

like the thunder scorch build won't work without scorching

[mild quiver]

Did they delete the Ember jade? I can't seem to find it anywhere

[drifting lance]

🎉 | Sir Ainlistor leveled up!

[warped falcon]

What is the strongest wielding soul jade in the poison base build? Do I need to take this in the literal sense or is this really a soul jade I don’t have yet?

[fluid steppe]

the thing is I dont understand why atk and scorching is above poison blast dmg for poison build

what is the max sense we can have now?

[hidden creek]

bcoz the main dmg of poison build comes from toxin blast not poison blast

[fluid steppe]

oh I see, ty

[hidden creek]

''strongest wielding jade'' means the wielding jade that alternate your weapon attack and make it deals bigger dmg
bigger dmg = faster element accumulation = more poison blast proc

[fierce light]

It differs per weapon. Like Aerial Rend for Greatsword & Torrent Flow for Polesword.

[limpid pecan]

@fierce light i was kinda wondering, lets say we have 15% hp and 4% attack and 2x windfall 50%. would it be damage gain to replace attack 4% with another windfall 50%?

lets take standard hydroflare build with max sense level

or the thunder scorch

[flat pier]

i am about to regret this o.0?

i am pretty sure scorching is not gonna come up......

[limpid pecan]

looks like moderation to me

[flat pier]

i am still considering press or no press at this point

i'm gonna be so effin mad if it is not scorching T_T

[limpid pecan]

if u get windfall is not bad

[flat pier]

i have too many windfall...

i need scorching .....

lol

yay yay yay

[limpid pecan]

mf

my last 4 attempts were all fkn moderation

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1278326043069120533.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=rivMad

[verbal axle]

damn congrats

[warped falcon]

@fierce light @arctic badge ty guys ❤️

[limpid pecan]

so attack better? but does it include other factors like the attack % from other jades?

also how does attack calculation work?

lets say i have 1030 sense level

and use incineration

is it +25% attack = 25% dmg?

or it stacks additively with sense level ?

[bold ice]

for enigma jade farming the method is to leave after 3 bosses right?

[fierce light]

Whoops, I left out the decimal point.

Even with that, since Attack multiplies with Burn DMG Bonus, Burn DMG only considers 60% of your HP% value and that it doesn't make up 100% of your damage output make it not worth going for that extra 4.5% Burn DMG per Souljade in place of that 8% Attack.

You'd need at least +100% Attack to make +8% Attack on-par with +4.5% Burn DMG and that's without including the diminishing returns on Burn DMG.

[limpid pecan]

ok so for attack calculation i shouldnt consider sense level bonus right?

only attributes on jades, buffs from skills and buffs from jades?

im asking this because i saw top1 guy with 3 windfall 15% hp jade

i was wondering if this is actually optimal

or its pepega

[fierce light]

Sense Level increases your Base Attack by +1 every 10 Levels. Being at Sense Level 1030, gives you +103 Base Attack. With a Purple weapon, that puts you at 243 Base Attack (+140 from Purple Weapon, +103 from Sense Level).

Attack +% multiplies on top of your Base Attack, so equipping Incineration and activating it would be equivalent to +37% Attack total (+12% Attack @Hero Level 20, +25% Attack from Incineration), which would put you at ~333 Attack.

[limpid pecan]

oh so weapon color stacks additively with sense lvl?

[fierce light]

Yeah. Blue Weapon gives +120 Base Attack and Purple Weapon gives +140 Base Attack.

[limpid pecan]

hm

ok so i can expect at least 5-6% dmg increase from 4 attack with 2 windfalls

[fierce light]

Gold Weapon would give +160 Base Attack (equivalent to gaining 200 Sense Levels).

[flat pier]

So attack is better than health?

[limpid pecan]

no, u get much more % hp than attack on jades

[fierce light]

Still a priority to max your Health % first.

[flat pier]

For hydroflare builds?

Ohhh I see

[limpid pecan]

we talking about very specific scenario where we consider essentially 7.5% hp vs 8% attack

[fierce light]

+9% Burn DMG > +4% Attack
+4.5% Burn DMG (Triple Windfall) < +4% Attack (Double Windfall)

[flat pier]

I'm so scared of dying so in some jades I'm foregoing attack for defuse recovery....​

XD

Had anyone gotten 1000 points yet?

Or the devs still gatekeep everyone?

[fierce light]

Yeah, one of your Jades you want Attack, Health and Defuse triggers Recovery, preferably with Windfall, at the very least

Otherwise, Hydroflare build isn't sustainable with us no longer having non-lethal Burn anymore.

[fierce light]

979 is the max rn I believe. Lot of weekly gates.

[flat pier]

For me, some bosses are difficult with hydroflare...

Just constantly trying to stay alive...

Like matron second form...

And they changed the attack patterns of hell scorch in Yama paragon 1. Right?

[limpid pecan]

i think hydroflare is still safest bossing build

if u put defuse recovery on a few jades

its very forgiving

[fierce light]

It's Eerie Scorch.

[limpid pecan]

already eerie bosses at paragon 1?

[fierce light]

and yeah I'm investing into my Hydroflare build still cause I have a feeling the moment I even dip my toe into Thunder Scorch build they're going to nerf it. Not flushed with rares atm like some people.

[fierce light]

Yeah. Not sure if it'll go past Paragon 5.

Next one is probably Eerie Rock, that's going to be interesting.

[limpid pecan]

last showdown level was super easy tbh

i guess getting best time will be always a challenge

but still

[fierce light]

Yeah, you could probably get through this one easy with a safe build and avoid the hellfire

They don't seem to be the health sponges they were last season.

[hearty rivet]

We still have one more tier above paragon5 for the yama seasonal challenge. Maybe we'll get some mob + miniboss levels too again?

[flat pier]

i hate rock...

[fierce light]

Would be interesting if it was all of the Eerie Bosses in one stage haha

They'd probably have to give more time though.

[gritty sun]

can someone help me showdown

im beginner

[amber terrace]

maybe Eerie Rock -> Eerie Yushan -> Eerie Aureate -> Eerie Korvine

[fierce light]

Eerie Bough would be annoying. Already has enough mix-ups that are really hard to tell apart till it hits you.

[river stratus]

i need windfall

[limpid pecan]

while some people are drowning, others are dying from thirst

[fierce light]

Yikes, why're you imbuing the first rare? Save those for the 2nd rare, you can just keep recasting your first rare for either a higher % attribute or a different rare.

[hearty rivet]

I just hope it won't be a doubleboss series. Those were awful in speedruns too.

[fierce light]

That would be interesting too. Double Eerie bosses sounds scary though.

[mild quiver]

@fierce light what jade should I use in place of the Ember jade for the Hydroflare build? I can't seem to find it anywhere, I even went and buy the Jade choice in order to get it but can't find it

I'm currently replacing it with Solidification, is there a better choice?

[fierce light]

Are you looking for a group, or just have some questions?

[river stratus]

running out of fragment, plus i want hold that defuse recovery

need fragment for rise up health

[fierce light]

Defuse • Solidification does help you proc Flame-Thunder Chant quicker, I'd say between that and Defuse • Aegis-Break would be your best alternatives.

[fierce light]

Fair, but you can recast a Rare Attribute until it gives you a max attribute, more effiicient than leveling them if you get a Rare you don't want imo.

[hidden creek]

incineration, raging flame, flaming blade and draco stride is 4 core jades
then you could run either ember & copper ward (high dmg high risk) or solidification & aegis break (lower dmg but safer)

[river stratus]

rgr🫡

[mild quiver]

I'm currently using the 4 core jades, copper ward and solidification, can't seems to find Ember anywhere for some reason

[dusk plover]

Pretty sure ember is nightscream korvine

[hidden creek]

if you run copper ward then ember replace solidification, because with copper ward you got no armor, your ember will have a double active rate compare to when you got armor cuz it's 10% of total armor and health

plus element accumulation is not really important on hydroflare build, thunder element is just for flame-thunder chant and the burn dmg from that potential is minimal

[fierce light]

He doesn't have Ember, they're looking for an alternative till they can get it.

[mild quiver]

Still need to find that damned jade in order to use it, I'm pretty sure I got it in the past but used it to upgrade other jades or deconstructe, I tried using the Faded jade to trade for it, didn't find it anywhere, bought the jade choice to trade for it, still didn't find it anywhere

[hidden creek]

oh?

[mild quiver]

Is it a gold or purple jade?

[hidden creek]

gold

[mild quiver]

Hmm... my faded jade seems to be unable to trade for it, weird

[hidden creek]

this is weird though

[fierce light]

They came out before Ember was released, so it's not an option.

[mild quiver]

Oh

Well shit

So I guess I need to unlock it first then

[hidden creek]

that's weird cuz i could select it

[mild quiver]

Well, that is tomorrow me problem, today me is going to sleep

[mild quiver]

Yeah, I was sure af I unlocked it before too

[hidden creek]

there's no way you haven't cleared autumn plains turmoil nightscream right

[mild quiver]

Yep

Clear everything last season already

Eh, just have to spend some time grinding for it, np

Trying to save as much of the showdown coin as possible, I'm trying to buy the gold polesword skin before I'm going on my big break after the current season end

[fierce light]

Has to be Turmoil Choice Gift or this season's to appear iirc.