Comprehensive Showdown Guide
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Made By: @fierce light
Man showdown chat got deleted too geez
Yup, I saw it last night

We are unlucky
Majority of the info I posted is in the guide, thinking about remodeling it
Our channel gone
Close to the new season at least lol

We lost our teammates xD
need to call them back here
Most of them dont know about this new channel
That's a neat way of posting the link
Bro what happened with the new server? Was it a fake or was it breached cuz too many naraka-ers
It was fake this is the only official server I would leave the other one if you are still in it
That other server is a scam and likely a way to hack people. If you joined it I recommend changing your password and enabling 2fa to secure your account
Sup lol

Should I start stockpiling my resources for next season?
I'd say about 2 weeks from the new patch start stocking up on Souljades. So you can use the conversion feature to try and get the new Souljades early
Yama abyss is ending 31 July 2024 click on Yama abyss leader board info in game hopefully new season and Tessa joins on 1 August it's well the showdown battle pass runs out in 31 days they are 2 different things

Doubt they'll start a new season with an old battle pass
Stage 60 doesn’t even come out until 8/14 so that’s wrong, where did you get that information?
Only leaderboard placement ends on the 31st. Not yamas abyss
wahhhhh
@dusk plover I went and beat stage 57 trios btw
@fierce light
What's up?
Oh the spawn all the bosses strat?
ye
basically if done correctly u should have at least 6minutes for 3x 1v1 boss
2 runs were super close XD
one boss had like 2 % left
other run we had 0, 6 and like 3% or something
Well the other strat is mainly just dividing the team at what they're more efficient at. Viper Moderation build is pretty much uncontested for mobbing so you can get some crazy clear times in. Had a couple under 14 minutes.
Wuchen also mobs better than say Tarka and Tianhai.
ye we didnt have moderation viper
Especially if you get an Omen like Ice Spikes where you can abuse that for free Defuses.
But yeah definitely a good strat for bad crossping.
I’ve tested this already for peak ice is way faster
Pretty much the ice viper was already at the % before boss was dead and helping with all the bosses
I would go ahead and stick with trios on 58 too, my rng on it in solos is making me want to quit lol 💀
😩 Recasting is so frustrating. I keep getting windfall on my VIper ice build
In terms of mobbing,
Mod Viper >> Skyfire Wuchen > Skyfire Feria
To the point where sometimes mod Viper was waiting on every boss when we had 2 HydroFlare builds.
Yeah i hate fishing for rare attributes, especially with there being no pity or even told what the chance is
@fierce light do you know if they did a patch or something where bosses actively avoid/run out of ice mound area range? They didn’t do this on the hellhole omen in 57 but wizard and first stage matron are constantly spamming their teleport move (wizard) and flying backwards move throwing longsword charge verticals to go out side of ice mount
Even tho I’m in there and go outside of their range threshold to do an attack to move onto me and they don’t do that attack now. They’re literally saying come attack me outside of there lol
They did it a while back, but it didn't seem to be performing correctly. Maybe they managed to fix it though
Yeah, either pity or the red stones offering choice instead of random would be so nicer.
I'm not upset that my draco+ember build has only 2 windfalls (+1 moderation which is fun) because at least the basic attributes are nice on that build but as I understand only 20% moderation hurts the Viper build bc self-freezing+fewer arcane thunder procs(?).
On the plus side, it's really nice to improve my 4attribute souljades with old recast system. Wish I asked sooner 😅
What I'm unsure is about whether I should use souljades that have only one very high or 100% attribute (and the rest are low) or it's a waste of quench stone.
I'd say aim for 60-70% on most attributes and 90-100% for your most important one (Ice Blast DMG, Divine Thunder DMG, Health, etc).
Wish they didn’t, ruined a bunch of runs because wizard would refuse to attack me and kept teleporting outside of ice mound area and taking too long to kill 😓
Real
@fierce light so I’m not 1000% sure on this but when I choose enchants element at the beginning, when I get to the shop I only get one of my burn jades and a lot of the times it’s aegis or incineration, but recently I’ve been doing these past 15 runs or so grabbing scorched cloud and in the shop getting 2 of my burn jades. So either just coincidence with rng or your first pick will have some say on shop jades possibly?
I’ve been getting enhance element everytime until these past 15 or so
whats funny, i wanted to make moderation viper but i figured only having 1/4 mods and only 3 flux shards it wont cut it
then i figured, well, may as well add rare attribs to feria so at least i have something
and i get like
1 scorching 3 moderation
XD
trying to find windfall, now i have scorching lev 12
@fierce light Finally this week Carved jade drops are looking better 💯
Yeah it does feel like grabbing Scorched Cloud encourages more Burn jades, but honestly have no clue what they're doing for the algorithm.
For those who like to crunch numbers.
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Amazing!
@fierce light I have question about Feria aegis break skill - it consumes Nunchuck biding fury stacks, but does it grant any benefit? is it stronger when consuming stacks?
Yeah it hits harder whenever it consumes them
I'll have to calculate the exact percentage increase, but it's noticeable with Honed Rage
Max Biding Fury makes it hit 18% harder.
Base Health Damage: 500 → 590
Base Aegis Damage: 1540 → 1820
Yeah I kept doing runs with scorched cloud and had way better luck with jades, just bad luck on rooms/ money
How certain are you, where did you get this information?
I think that's the regular weekly leaderboard update/reset thingie
It says it when you hover over the (i) at the bottom left of the leaderboard.
about the Tessa part
Oh. She was teased for this season, but they've teased heroes before and didn't release them for Showdown (Justina, Akos, Tessa, etc).
That’s just for the normal badge Yama isn’t ending stage 60 will be the last stage says 31st just for the normal top 10 badges
To be fair I think were all just speculating, the message isn't completely clear but it does sound like the Top 3 badges will be decided by said date.
I dont know thats why Im asking around to be honest. this game has no Dev contact so its super hard to decipher anything unless your on CN.
Ik for a fact that it’s only the the top for weekly
It’s not the end my guy
U do know that date changes every week
I’ve already went into cn and asked and roguish they both said 31st is just normal badges not the end
So prob shouldn’t say it cause a lot of people will really believe and just waste there time trying to get top 3 when there is 30 days left
Homie Im only going off someone else mentioning it in the chat above, I didnt just randomly come up with this.
here
I already know
But ur message was the closest I seen so reply to urs to say I went and asked people and confirmed that’s not the end
I suppose if we were in for an emergency season closure, developers would be sure to write about it - it's both an ethical and financial issue)
Yeah as Stage 60 is last stage, one of my good friend had said that
1st August 59th Stage
16th August 60th Stage
💀as in sense level 23?

Yup and it's going up again next season. We're going to see bigger and bigger damage numbers
Hopefully there won't be one single build for all heroes next season. And bring back the power of thunder and ice. And make unique hero jades important. And there won't be such a horribly off-balance improvement in jade characteristics.
I guess I want too much.

But at least somewhere in the back of my heart I have hopes that I see Justina as hero in PvE in my lifetime.
Yep
And it should say the 14 the for stage 60 unless it was changed
I hope Akos comes ... I have his extreme skin 
When Burn gets nerfed due to the removal of the potential, Yama's Abyss is going to go back to its old state where it feels even worse if they don't do anything about it. Element builds were fun if you could get them online, but you needed not only the Jades, but also the Rings to do enough damage in time. I don't miss the Super Soldier meta either where only one player realistically was able to play in Trios.
I'm hoping the new set of Jades are slightly stronger than Ice and Thunder (at base), only because people have insane builds boosting Ice and Thunder as it is, with the recasting changes only furthering the gap cause Rare Attributes are an absolute pain to get. It also doesn't help that Element builds are the most boosted by Attributes since you can get +30% on every Souljade, whereas Burn only gave +10.5%.
I also just don't want to be stuck using them again for another year. Burn changed things up, it made you have to learn the Defuse mechanic to perform better although they failed to properly rebalance Defuse • Solve, leaving half the hero selection out of the meta.
maybe they shouldnt have removed old potentials
and just expand the old tree
if we had old ice stuff maybe ice build could rival the burn
i have to give it to them
feria skyfire build is prolly most fun build i played in showdown
That would be cool if we had a larger tree. I think they're afraid of making it too complicated though.
i remember backfire desperation meta
was miserable af
and matari spamming assassin lunge entire game was rly boring after a while
Yeah being able to deal damage while avoiding damage feels so nice, in contrast to waiting for openings to do a Thunder Counter safely.
yushan shadows was fun to play also
but they decided to delete the potential that enables it
and its rly pepega rn
i think also problem is
rn ultimates feel useless
the jades are so strong that using ultimate is just dps loss
which ults are even worth using?
kurumba maybe
No ultimate jade is worth using but actual ult wise depends on build, if you’re doing element then temulch valda viper and kurumi in general for team heals. Everyone else’s is really just there to get health back by activating and deactivating immediately (except matari and feria). That’s all just in my opinion tho
Yeah Ultimates are pretty niche. If we were able to upgrade our Ultimates (to the versions of the Souljades), they would be more worth using. There's also the Burn meta being against breaking Astral Aegis quickly that hinders a lot of them.
Right now, only Tarka's, Kurumi's, and Matari's are worth using off-cooldown.
Oh no it’s just there to break aegis faster to try and time thunder counter or ice procs when enemy/boss lose their aegis
Yeah I was about to say I noticed recently valdas second attack (not the one that binds them in the water tornado) in her ult actually does some pretty good health damage now
It's her highest DPS attack now, outside of Jades. But it's incompatible with Thunder Builds since Thunderpull makes it hurt herself for a shorter Ultimate.
hi I'm playing this game only for a week or so and I want to run showdown with my friend but sadly there's no duos so we're trying to look for a 3rd person
we're on EU server @ me or lemme know if you'd like to join us
Do u think mod viper would still be viable
Yes. Even if they nerf Arcane Thunder, the core 4 Souljades (Successive, Frozen, Tundra & Sub-Zero) have heavy synergy with Moderation. As long as you have Moderation on those 4 Souljades, you shouldn't have to rebuild it anytime soon.
🙉🙉🙉 oh no idk what my rare attributes are on
Gotta hop and check
Wait no
😂😂😂
I got windfall and scorching. No moderations
🤦♂️
Yeah it is basically a x1.65 multiplier on Ice Blast DMG.
Yama leaderbaord will setteld on 01-08-2024 ?
Whenever the end of the season is
but they said it will settled on 1 august
if im not wrong
That's a weird day if so, since it's usually on weekly reset
check this
Yeah that's just for the title
Only title or that top 1-2-3 badge also?
Badge is at the end of the season, it's in the 2nd paragraph
Ah didnt noticed yet lmao
What char best for stage 40?
tarka
Aight gracias
you can use wuchan / faria / tarka /tianhi
if you like them
pretty sure its just the regular weekly reset
That date changes every week
I found about it like 4 weeks ago didn’t even know it was clickable
Ok i got it
Game never be explaining it fully like they want us to miss understand
Haha to keep the curiosity rolling 
That’s not curiosity that’s torture so let’s say if no one knew and everyone just started grinding tf out of Yama to get top 3 just to find out that’s just weekly badge
Fk that water dragon mofo
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We're probably not getting him anytime soon
Is showdown season over this week
No
If ur talking about saying resetting 31 that’s just for the weekly badges
Nice
What does windfall do
Pretty much adds the stats that are on the jades by how much windfall u have I don’t know exact math for it tho have to ask @fierce light
Whaaaa there are moreee!??
All other Attributes on that Souljade are (30%|40%|50%) more potent.
In the case of that Souljade:
Oh
oh yes
Rare Attributes are pretty much the end-game.
Windfall is a goofy ah name for (all sub stat boost)
damn.... You must've never lost the arithmetic problem in hero's assemble.
I never get that far
it's kinda in the beginning too I think..? 
it’s the first fight with the showdown monsters
But thats like after fighting two waves of 3 bots
and solo it’s uh
Rough
yeah i get to the them and I run out of time
naaah to the nah nah
So I never get to do the arithmetic
where's you people from chamberrrrrr
oh it’s my fualt
Long story short I’m not good at team playing
So I would just introduce people to other people
And Yeah lmfao i don’t want to bother them
I have scorching too I think..
oh yes
so uh question.. does the windfall, scorching, moderation have only this (written in yellow) attribute?? or there are more other attributes in that [red] name..?
@fierce light
I hope I could convey what I meant.... 
Yeah only Rare Attributes have that special writting color.
Scorching applies a burn that deals 198% * [Scorching] Level of your Attack over 18 seconds to your next melee attack whenever you successfully parry an attack.
no I mean in scorching... its only that after countering, melee attacks deal extra burning damage? or there are others too..?
Only your next melee attack.
okok...
[Moderation] reduces the cooldown on your skill by (15% | 20% | 25%) whenever you cause an Elemental Blast. You cause those by hitting enemies while having Souljades equipped with -Wielding on them. In Yama's Abyss, you just have to grab either Ice Essence or Thunder Essence to be able to do Elemental Blasts.
[Scorching] stacks up to level 12.
[Moderation] stacks up to 100%.
[Windfall] has no limit, but only applies to the Souljade it is on.
Keep dying to his bs attacks lol
For mod viper would u rather have windfall on souljade that got high attack or one that got ice blast dmg
What stage is this tho?
Wait in Yama right?
Prob 40
Cuz of this msg
Ice Blast
🙏
Generally Attack is your 2nd most important Attribute. Your most important is whatever boosts your main source of damage.
Ice Builds
Ooh ok
Wait does attack also add to ice blast dmg
Like let’s say ice blast does 100 dmg
If I have max attack would that be higher as well
Or would attack only affect my charged and uncharged
Attack affects everything
But since it's such a low % (+4% Max) you get from Attributes, it doesn't have as big of an effect as say Divine Thunder DMG (+30% Max) on a Thunder build.
Ah I c
Man idk why it’s always so hard to use all fatigue
The most I got to was 75% and then
It refreshes
Which is great
But it feels like I’m losing out on smt
Yeah it's been about a month since i used full fatigue. The drops combined with the time wasting stages in Void make it hard to get it done in a reasonable amount of time.
Not really. Ranged builds were good for like 1 week, but then they nerfed them down quickly. Even then they were only good for dealing Aegis Damage which is really bad in the current meta.
Just noticed the jade is glowing when you got a rare attribute
wow nice luck!
why yall so lucky with void 25?!?
I played 25, 30, 35 today and only got 2 meh golds in total and nothing special.......
IS IT BECAUSE I DIED ONCE?????
Because you dont farm void
but it's so tiring and lonely 
How many runs it take you to get more than 3 jades with smuggler by first boss?
59 i just did 3times
Bro share some of that luck 😭😭
@fierce light i wonder, are souljades equipped on other heroes/other sets or their stats affecting jades appearing in yama?
Nope, only the ones in green are taken from your Souljades, the rest being completely random.
Really hope they're cooking with this next Showdown season, cause these updates been super dry.
They will just restart all yamas lmao
Yama's 1-40 were relatively fun at least. Since you're not really rng-gated during those ones, you can brute force it with skill
Stage 40 is now easy
Like can possible clear within 8min
Next season i will try solo till stage 40
solo was faster
and yes stage 1-40 is so fun clearing
now above 50 is just a pain
Yeah i solo'd up to like 52
I didnt even tried solo till stge 46 lmao
In which I stopped at 55 Trios cause it was becoming more painful than fun to play
yes only super solders can pass with good timee
Solo ping allows you to fit in more defuses safer
People are still super soldiering?
Yes
People clearing stage 58 with 1 kurumi
in SEA
like not even playing trios?
just duo trio?
In trio ..just 2 dps 1 healer
Healer with no ring/souljade
like 2 carry
Oh i wouldn't consider that super soldier
Oh i dont know the defination of super solder actually
Much more preferable over that meta
Super soldier implies 1 carry. Which was the annoying meta last season cause of element rings multiplying on each other
Which I really hope they do rebalance when Burn meta is gone, cause even in solo it was annoying trying to get all of those rings and your Souljades
dang 1 carry is just super hard with burn
Yeah Burn builds up linearly, so it's better the more people that are running it
Element builds up exponentially, so better to invest in one person
Speaking of, I should probably remake those feedback posts
So next season burn will be nerfed?
If they bring back element again
then it will be pain for me
I saw Justina Gu using dagger in Hero assmble 
When first round start of hero assmble - Bots Vs player
is that any type of spoiler?
@fierce light
Assuming they remove the burn potential, it will be
Or they could keep it like they've been doing the Thunderbolt section
then it will e fine tbh
i dont have thunder
No idea, they've been pretty dark in regards to what's coming. We at least got teasers around this time last season
Like other heros are using besic weapon like kurumi- katana , tianhi-stuff , viper-Ls
so mybe justine will use dagger
If so, that's not a good sign, cause even Matari with her huge +40% buff, Dagger underperforms
yeah thats true
Yup even checked on BiliBili, no leaks there yet either
Im sure justine will come next year
as they add 1 hero in every 6 month
Really don't know why it takes them so long when they're only adding 2 attacks and 2 slightly different abilities.
Even the damage multipliers are often similar to what they are in PvP.
Maybe they're working on allowing us to use different weapons?
I think they are adding late heroes to keep the game balanced
Adding all the heroes together might make everyone lose interest in the game
Still 6month is too long for 1 hero
So they will take 5 years to add rest 10 heros 
2 hero /year

Well each one get release is powercreeping the rest for that season it seems though
Yueshan was crazy strong during Thunder meta, Feria was strong during Honed Tyranny meta and now Wuchen is probably the best hero for farming atm.
Does windfall increase moderation?
no
Ah no point on having them on 1 jade then
Yes and each season is 6month long
they want to keep showdown alive
This one is 9 months

@fierce light for speed run this week, kill scorch first right?
Fastest run you fight them together, otherwise yeah kill Scorch first.
Been doing solo up to 58. My rng on it has been god awful getting jades. Can only think of 3 runs since 58 that actually went to final boss but ultimately run out.
Which kind of get pissed when I see most of the CN and sea server beat the new level within an hour that it comes out having no trouble with the rng of it all
They Do spam that stage untill they get good rng
Or @mortal yew over here in just three runs… 💀 jk jk just jealous of you ❤️
Yeah but it doesn’t take them more than half a day to get that good rng run
We already know their “luck” on jade roles is like 500% better than NA’s lol
Lmao
I have no idea about them
They have good 'Luck' for sure
only 2-3 people pass That net stage within 1-2 hour
Yeah I’m not able to go on CN servers but when I went on SEA and did Yama (did 20 runs on NA same level as well) and my rng on jades in the shop were astronomically better than on NA. I think there was only 2 times that I only had 1 of my jades from a shop (including smuggler) where as on NA I think only 3-4 times that I actually got more than 1 of my jades in a shop (including smuggler)
And the problem is even if I get more than 1 of them for the 55+ levels, if Draco isn’t one of them run is dead anyways 🥲
@fierce light I have a question about the stat skill cd reduction I’ve always wonder like how much does that reduce or is it pretty much useless
Just reduces the max cooldown by a %. It could be a decent placeholder for [Moderation], but not good to run together since they make each other less efficient.
So how much would u say if needed to make a good cd
Just wondering not doing it but just always wondered
But I’m turning my incineration I have with moderation on my burn build to ice today
Ima try for ice mod im bored of same builds
It's only 6% per jade, so at max around 1/3rd cooldown reduction
1/2 if you manage to get it with Windfall
Every time I reach the 4.room, I will bet on a store. else restart or if i got 2-3jade in store maybe not re.i think 2store get 3jade is not hard
Wth??? Okay they definitely boosted the rates or something. Never seen this many outside of the double drop event.
Yea they def did boost them
1-3room get 1jade. when go 5.room use store get 4jade 6-8room get 5jade. 14.room get copper its not really need to much luck
Game hardly likes to give 3 jades in a row, let alone 3 jades I need.
My first game I got 2 shrouded jades and this was enigma
i mean in store 4.room
maybe have 1 or 2jade is u need
Oh nvm I see what you mean.
I swear I think immovable is the games favorite level cause it’s always a dam doom or speedrun
i wanna ask, this anima apply on Sturdy Weapon?
What do you mean by Sturdy Weapon?
For Viper's Ability in particular:
36% Skill Cooldown: 20s → 12.8s
54% Skill Cooldown: 20s → 9.2s
Ah ok
Update at 6 or 7 btw?
In about half an hour servers shut down
So 6
Yes, if that’s your timezone
#😎┃game-news message
^ tells you in your time zone.
7 for me then
I hope you're right! Last week I got like 4-8 most of the time in void (150-100%) and 0-2 for every 3-4th run during my 100% stage.
Funny enough, I ended up getting 1 Crystal in the next run.
I hope they get rid of them ranged anima
Like they with souljades
Cus those are damn near useless
Yeah pretty much. It has it's niche with Cannon-like builds, but you don't need Rings for that.
The study one is really good tho
Makes farming a lot faster
They could merge it with melee resist or sum
Sturdy Weapon will restore durability when kill mobs, so that Second Wind will increase % dmg in 8s if Sturdy Weapon work?
Oh that's a good question, no clue though
Still think they should remove the majority of the damage focused rings in the ranged tree though since element does that anyway
anyone able to help me with doom immovable
Yeah I’m just constantly resetting. I hardly ever get more than one of my jade in any stores so it gets frustrating after about the 3-4th hour lol
Does anyone have a video showing using defuse to avoid getting frozen? I've been practicing with Yushan Shadows, but I always end up frozen
Well they screwed up the rng again with this update. Just got protect the soul alter on the very first room 7 times in a row before it was something different finally
Anyone on rn
I've been playing almost all season with ice build and I don't know how it works - I'm constantly getting frozen right during defusing. Unless F is guaranteed to save you from turning into statue of ice.
It's pretty quick, so as long as you start defusing right when you see the particles, it should activate.
Swapped to using cinderfrost 😂Guess I gotta practice more in training, thanks!
I really hope they fix Yama next season. This is seriously trash asf, goes from a skill game to pass to if you’re Chinese we give you the ridiculous amount of rng needed to pass if your not tough luck go get a god run to actually clear it. Idk if it’s a PlayStation algorithm thing but it feels like out of the past 100 runs MAYBE 3 of them had more than one of my jades in the shop and the only time I’ve seen Draco out of all of them was a reward on a red room and like 10 of them I get smuggler while also using the gold refreshes. I really wish PlayStation allowed us to change our names in Naraka like Xbox just to see if that would do anything 😂😭
Doom speed run is too hard, or do most of you actually feel comfortable with it?
Have one person occupy the other boss and then fight them separate for an easier clear
Double boss speed runs are a normal thing they like to do
Once you build enough Defuse triggers Recovery, it's possibly the easiest it's been to complete (granted you're not using a Hero with Defuse Solve).
why does showdown main missions have a really long queue
After you finish them, there's not much reason to run them again.
anyone able to help with doom immovable NA server
Fastest so far
hi its because i still need to do the main missions on showdown and it not putting me with another team
You need three experienced players on meth heroes who on cd to press defuse. Abomination and boring.
I can't stand speedruns like this because they are least fun and are tied solely to one action.
Ik, was just saying why the queues take so long.
You don't have to do it on a Defuse build, it's just the easiest and quickest way to do it atm. We used to have to do it on element builds where it was much harder.
No? Right now, you either use build on defuse or suffer when it comes to endgame content. Okay, there's still moderation build for Viper, but it's still bad in pure bossfights (compared to defuse).
So yeah, last season there was choice between stronger thunder damage build and simpler ice damage build, second one had no difficulty, in general.
It depends if you're trying to be competitive since Burn is unmatched right now, but they haven't changed double boss runs. Before you'd have to have a Kurumi to heal, but now that we can run defuse recovery there's no need. This is probably the easiest double boss Speedruns have been due to that. You can make it harder by running Copper Ward, but i wouldn't say you need to be overly experienced, just know your heroes defuse decently.
You can make it harder by running Copper Ward
No thanks, I'm not good enough to not make mistakes)

@fierce light how do you do wuchen's charged hor. attack back to back?? without triggering the aegis breaking skill? -I saw one of your YT vid
I tried to hold another hor. afterwards but it triggers the aegis break
crouch
Yeah some reason crouching doesn't make Fan do a Crouched attack.
interestingggg

For yama's, does anyone know if the drop rate for jades on the same level differs between solos and trios?
Also, with reawakening (attack +35% for 8s when there's no frostbite accumulated), do I just have a permanent boost if I can't get frostbite?
Hard to say if it does. Wish they were more clear with drop rates.
Reawakening only activates when Frostbite goes away, not including maxing out your Frostbite (freezing).
Thank you!!
Matari's ult souljade says "can build 100% rage by attacking enemies after using flash." Does this mean I can almost always have ult if I play things right?
No, you'll build around 20-30% making full use of the flash buff iirc. It would have been good before they nerfed Rage Generation scaling with Damage Dealt.
Tarka Ji used to use his Ultimate Jade when that was a thing since you could maintain 100% uptime as long as you kept fighting.
I really hopped on showdown late huh 😭 would've been fun to experience perma-ult
Yeah they nerfed a lot of stuff in Showdown, Attack used to be multiplicative with itself (as well as damage bonuses) so we'd end up with Glass Cannon builds doing insane damage.
what is enemy scaling between stages in yama?
is there some big increase between 50 and 51?
yama/void spam
void what mode is thats
Void is the best place for this, yes.
I want to petition no protect the soul altar in the last 3 room. Just got the god run would of been 8 min left on last boss with full jades-decent rings and last room was that with range spread out everywhere and 5 melee aegis attacking it. It also had 3 waves of spawns (2 range 1 melee) so tldr they destroyed the altar in a little under 30 seconds @fierce light
if altar is destroyed the run is over?
yeah
Yes and on 58 they deal A LOT of damage to it in the early rooms so late rooms with that many enemies and respawns I’m surprised it only took 28 seconds
It was the swarms and the staff aegis guys
5 staff guys and 6 swarms which respawned twice so 18 and staffs once so 10 of them. Staff guys did most of the damage since I targeted swarms first then killed the 5 staff guys thinking I barely cleared it but then they came back up and I couldn’t group them all with a defuse away from the altar and they killed it
It was hella devastating since I’ve been on 58 since it came out with horrible rng on runs and the one great rng run I get was pulled from me with that room, just about made me delete the game for a bit lol
i started grinding yama a little recently
most of stages up to 50 i did in 1 try or 2-3
but 51 idk whats up with it
seems like everything has billion hp
do they get like +50% hp from 50 to 51 or what
i tried to do the frog boss with only stormstride sword and attack elixir
took like
idk
12min
and the matrons are aids to deal with
seems like if i dont have full build by 2nd boss its doomed
and for first i need at least like flaming blade and raging flame
im thinking to just restart run if i dont get flaming blade on first level
im playing feria with normal hydroflare build
btw is the blue hydroflare thingy even worth picking up at start of run?
it deals pretty unremarkable dmg
Yeah everything 50 is lots of health and damage dealt and it just gets increased by a lot more each level compared to how it was in the 40s
If you’re running burn I’ve had more luck with getting my jades in shop when I grab that compared to enhance element but depending on omens in early 50s you usually go enhance element first
A lot of the times if you don’t have Draco even with those you’re going to have to reset
ye i noticed draco is rly important
but sometimes i got like
draco + incineration
with 0 fire jades
so it was turbo pepega
Yep a lot of bs stuff most of the time 😭
Been doing a lot of Yama stage 58 trios with roguish and almost every game all 3 players would have 4 jades at first boss I’ve learned a lot from him and showed me ways to get my jades a lot more easier
whats best way to get jades quick?
There's not much data on the later stages for that, but from Stage 11 → 12 it's a 5.3% increase.
They really should make the rewards proportional to the difficulty of the room tbh. That's one thing I like about Illusive Realm in WuWa at least cause not only do you get to choose the type of room you go to (between two choices), but also the amount of rewards are based on the type. With defend missions giving the highest reward cause they take the most amount of time and also have more enemies.
Well trying to get flaming defuse before getting to first boss is best not from the box
Last night doing stage 59 trios 3 games in a row I had all 6 jades at first boss but the issue was the 2nd boss we have to keep are eyes on the bosses feet at all times so we died a lot
So we had to still reset
But using refreshed first 3 zones on jades rings
Doesn’t matter what’s the stats on it are always grab the flaming defuse from ring
Don’t use refreshes on anything but jades rings or trying to get smug at buy
Yeah for whatever reason when I was running trios with you all I had A LOT more luck with my jades being in the shop but for solos it’s just abysmal lol
That honestly sounds amazing. The problem with the late defending round is that they just do way too much damage to the altar way to quickly that late into it
They set it like that
But at this point solo I will admit needs to be fixed where 2 jades are guaranteed
If they gonna have eerie bosses
my favorite runs are where i get blue rings on first 3 levels
then in shop i get like incineration + stormstride sword
What stage we talking about
im at 51 rn
matrons are annoying tho
49 took like 15 trys some reason game was not dropping anything
Yeah the moment it started taking most of your Souljades to clear it is when it started getting annoying.
ye idk i dont get it
Lucky I beat 51 first try but stage 58 has 2 eerie matrons lol
some runs i get back to back good builds
And ping REALLY MATTERS
Like I be at like 43 ping but one time the matron hits me on 58 I can’t even move I just have to sit laying down taking the hits since they are 2 eerie matrons
But the creators need to understand that sea and cn only servers that can even beat these eerie bosses in Yama with fcking ez
i wonder if getting cinderfrost could be okay idea for 51
Cause they be having under 20 ping and if next season is not fixed and fair for all servers at this high of stage im just permanently deleting my account cause im not wasting my time on game that shows how clear favoritism is
Nah
That won’t help
Attack timing and attack speeds are completely different
I tried doing this for 58 and way back for the speedrun for it
ye the eerie ones are different
And it made me even worse because the nightscream one was so much slower
but im thinking 51 rn
Yea still slower than the 51
hm
I wouldn’t recommend doing it
Yes u will learn all the attacks but bosses attack patterns a different at this high of stage
the frog is annoying too, the first boss
They become more random
If I were u I would practice doing this speedrun no trios solo
But don’t have defuse use copper
It will help u wi the reaction speed and ur defuse timing
I would keep doing it till ur able to solo it in 7 minutes
Or beating it without getting killed once
the current one with korvine?
Yea
Both of the bosses in this speedrun attacks are different timings and hard to fight them solo
Since the Korvine will block the fire boss most of time
And the fire bosses attacks can and will hit u through korvine even if ur not close enough its weird
But doing it solo can definitely help u get better I just wouldn’t recommend doing night gelid for practice cause will be to easy
And won’t have the same feeling u will have in Yama
But u could always take all ur jades off and just do it with no jades
Or just leave copper on so it leaves u one tap
I did this last season well not copper but played a lot so I could learn all bosses attacks and what they do when launching these attacks
But almost every boss u need to stay looking at feet or is best if u do
why looking at feet
Most bosses there feet will move before doing its attack
Mainly the hammer guys
It shows when it’s doing a attack u should just get out the way when it’s eerie
But matron u have to watch all
What character and what jades are I trying to clear 51 with btw?
feria, stormstride sword, incineration, flaming blade, raging flame, ember, draco
i play feria 99% of time in showdown, usually with skyfire build
but in yama skyfire is not great
in enigma peak i could beat eerie matrons without too much trouble
solo
but idk in yama seems they are much faster or something
similar with aureate
in enigma i was farming him
in yama he is annoying sometimes
its weird
Yeah they have a more aggressive AI in the later stages. Some bosses won't even use certain moves in the earlier stages (Omnious Beast's 360 Tail Swipe for example). So that ends up in you being able to do more Defuses in a shorter amount of time so Hydroflare starts having a big advantage. Then there's also the Burn Duration +% and HydroFlare DMG +% from Collections that makes it even stronger.
Well shit it’s nice to know that now 😭😓 feels like they put the solo rng down to like .1% chance of multiple jades in the store. I’ve been on that rant with two guarantee jades in shops for awhile now so I’m with you
think they should let u pick one jade to start with
the rng of first stage giving jade
is too obnoxious
Don’t need stormstride sword for the Draco build
Incineration, ember, raging defuse, Draco stride and flaming defuse and for ur 6th u can either do copper but wouldn’t recommend have to play really hard but I would do ur defuse solid for ur 6th jade
Only solo needs the 2 guaranteed just hope if they do this they don’t apply it to trios
That would just make trios so easy cause can have 3 smug and not just one so hope they just change solo
Not like much competition in solo anyways
stormstride sword gives 2 bars to raging flame
Much prefer struggling against bosses than struggling against RNG tbh. Especially in a competitive mode (due to it having a leaderboard attached)
Speedrun already has a good deal of RNG, I hope they do add something that's competitive with limited RNG. Like a mode where you go in with no gear or some preset gear.
i think would be great if we could pick buff in shop
instead of having 50% chance of that trash red thingy or aegis buff
the red thingy tho
idk
the only extreme thing about it is that its extreme trash
That would be dope. Give us an option of 1 of 3 buffs. Increased Aegis Damage is pretty much useless in this meta, but you could have a dedicated Viper Ning or Feria to do Aegis Damage in the next.
maybe would be better if stages above 50 or something
had preset rounds
instead of getting screwed by aegis mobs in first level
dunno guys 55 basically impossible
didn't even get close to beating it
across all of my tries
Use tarka 55 shouldn’t be to hard with tarka or wuchen
should i try ember-incineration-draco- wuchen?
because for me it seems like skyfire build falls short on second boss
Anyone looking to join me and my friend for showdown trios plz add me, it's so hard to find a 3rd person high enough sense level 🥲 Honeybadger0310 is my psn and my game ID is 4595500080174 😁
is there a specific strategy to farm that last one🥲 or would i have to brute force void
i think for 55 need enough luck to find multiple spirit well stage because 1st boss is too slow take a lot of time
Yeah HydroFlare build is the way to go in Yama atm
btw how to kill mobs with tarka fast in first 3 rooms?
he does like zero dmg with defuse and aegis break skill
Group them up and use Cannon or Universe Slash
All of it from 55+ is just heavily rng based. You need way too much stuff too quick or be on SEA or CN servers for the favoritism boost
Yeah I can agree with that because like you said there’s way too many possible smugglers but for solo it’s definitely needed
Anyone on tryna play showdown?
With 2 Guaranteed Souljades in each Shop:
- 2 Souljades on Zone 4.
- 2 Souljades on First Boss (Smuggler).
- No new Souljades on Zone 9.
- 2 Souljades on Second Boss (Smuggler)
- 2 Souljades on Zone 4.
- 2 Souljades on First Boss (Smuggler).
- No new Souljades on Zone 9.
- 2 Souljades on Zone 14.
So that's at most 5 Zones you're guaranteed to spend at full build on Trios and 1 Zone on Solos. The fastest runs right have their full build shortly after or on the first boss. This would just make things more even, but still luck could push you forward if that is what yall want.
You might have better luck in #🐲┃showdown-lfg as your request might get buried in the chat here.
The thing is the ones that people just clear outside of CN/SEA have 4-5 jades by first boss and full by second anyways. The only differences in time is room rng, but with CN/SEA yeah just make it even easier for them to get even quicker times
I think it’s just an all around good idea to. Atleast for solos, I do agree it would be a little too easy with trios due to the multiple chance of smuggler
I don't see them doing it anyway since it would decrease the amount of people buying the refreshes. Makes me glad I'm on Xbox lobby cause nobody's doing these ridiculous levels.
Nice work
59 solo takes 10 mil damage to complete
think 50 was like 4mil or so
so ye seems scaling is rough at these levels
Yep that’s also true
Where did you get that info? That isn’t true. Damage needed for 56 is a little over 10m and 57 is a little over 12mil
this video at the end
maybe its fluctuation based on room rng
what if 56-60 are same scaling? just different omens and enemies
and same 51-55
and there is big bump from 50 to 51
and 55 to 56
on 50 i finished whole run with like 4mil dmg
54 need 8.8 mil
on 51 i had 4mil without killing last boss even
51 around 5 or 5.5
Oh that’s not good to go off of. Look at the vid, last 6 rooms were all spirit well or money grab/minimal damage rooms. That’s why he got a 21 min run even with dying twice. the damage needed to clear does come down to room rng but each level the average needed to clear does increase for sure.
Idk what his first three rooms were but main point is last 6 where health is heavily increased he had 2 45 sec no omen rooms with decreased enemy health, 2 spirit wells, 1 money room, and room 6 was minimal enemies with only one aegis. So ultimately he only cleared 1-4 out of 12 rooms from purely killing everything (depending on what his first three rooms were)
It’s @mortal yew vid by the way
ye i checked out his channel after he posted above speedrun
To put in better perspective the god run I had on 58 that was ruined with the protect the soul altar on room 13 (would of been on last boss with about 8:20 left). I had 3 boss cave rooms and only defused when they attacked not trying to kill them, but the rest were all kill all enemies rooms and before I even got to the last boss I was already at 12mil damage (included the damage I did on the last room). Even with those 3 caves and demon elixirs on the first two bosses, on a higher level he still got to the last boss with more time than me. That’s how important the room rng and jade rng is with these levels. (I also only had 3 jades in first boss then 5 on second while he had 4 on first then full on second)
55 need 11M dmg
All stages it depends on the zones u get and stage 59 in me and my friends were doing it in trios and we drop 30 mil together and still ran out of time but solo it depends on what zones u get so it could be below 10 mil or above
Hey guys, I heard somewhere that using a souljade named “blessed” or one with 500/500 luck in showdown would increase the likelihood of souljade drops?
Is that fr or is that just placebo effect
It should or what it should do but when I use it even have 500 luck on all 6 jades with lucky break and blessed all at once before and the drops dead as were worse than the game before
I honestly think luck just doesn’t work they need to either remove it or fix it
Luck increase the probability getting "better" rarity jade, not the "amount" of jade
But even with massive Luck sometimes it still give the worst reward possible so I think it is placebo effect, the question for yourself "Do you still believe in Luck?" I am
Oh they said amount didn’t see that
Ah okay thanks guys
Still make sense in terms of the amount of crystal or cube you can get
When has luck increased crystal amount should be jades
Running a Gold Rune Key for +3000 Luck has no noticeable effect on the Crystals. I don't think Luck is worth building for over damage.
Yes. I once used gold rune key + elixir and got one purple jade per enigma pass (the others were blue). 
But, over course of few dozen passes of enigma, +3000 luck from gold key gave stability more purple and gold jades than regular key.
Yo @fierce light , you mind reposting that screenshot that shows fatigue-souljade ratios for different showdown modes? Think it got lost when this channel got reset earlier
Thank you!
What does the attack stat actually increase?
everything
attack increase every stats
@short meadow @spice canyon Thank you. The formula would be attack damage x example boss damage percentage to get what I should receive then?
I might be over thinking stats. I am not sure if elemental damage like divine thunder is more valuable or pure damage output.
i think dark can explain this properly @fierce light
Thank you. I am trying to understand but I admit I am struggling.
The damage formula goes something like this:
Damage Coefficient × Attack × (1 + DMG Bonus) × Buffs × Sense Suppression
Where:
Damage Coefficient
Base multiplier of an attack caried out by the player.
- Viper's Yushan Enigma Ability has a Damage Coefficient of 9.00. The first charge of her Horizontal Pheonix Blast has a Damage Coefficient of 4.84.
Attack
The sum of all of your Attack Bonuses, multiplied on top of your Base Attack.- Your Base Attack is determined by your Weapon Rarity and Sense Level (+1 every 10 Levels).
DMG Bonus
The sum of all of your DMG Bonuses from equipment (Souljades, Potential, Attributes & Collection Bonuses).- At Hero Level 11+, the Blazing Flame glyph gives a +69% damage bonus to Burns at base.
Buffs
The product of all of your Buffs.- Breaking the Astral Aegis of an enemy buffs your damage by x2. Tarka's Inner Fire ability increases the damage dealt enemies hit by x1.1. Together they give a x2.2 multiplier.
Sense Suppression
A multiplier that increases or decreases your damage output depending on if you're above or below your enemy's Sense Level (Recommended Sense) respectively.- The table below shows the expected effect on damage from a range of Sense Level differences.
- The damage penalty does not apply in Yama's Abyss
TL-DR: Elemental Damage Bonuses are more important than Attack not only because of higher % values, but because they multiply on top of Attack.
You created this spreadsheet by yourself?
Yeah he did
Yeah
That is amazing. I am overwhelmed just by looking at it lol. How did you manage to maintain composure to finish it?
ask himm not me

Apologies I replied to the wrong person
nvm
ADHD combined with a love for theorycrafting ig lol
Dark is goat ngl
I have never heard of theorycrafting before.
Mainly because this game didn't have a free training for the longest, so it was pretty hard to figure out what was more effective for certain heroes without having to invest.
I play Tessa in all modes that are not Showdown. Wuchen for showdown. Even when I think I have it figured out, I be way off. There is so much information to absorb and you have it down to a science. That really is amazing.
Yeah the hardest part is trying to make it look pretty once you get the numbers lol.
I appreciate the effort. Literally before seeing your message I said to myself. "it is so hard to keep wanting to make things pretty in such an ugly world". So I really do appreciate it.
Actually your message helped me feel a bit better just now.
This is why I spent around 3hours focus on the exact number of Tessa V1 purple value
I need to do 49 as well
have you maybe 3rd person to play?
Hey guys, my friend wants to start showdown. He has like nothing as in this is a fresh account.
This is what I plan on doing to get him started.
I carry him throughout the chapters until he unlocks Yama.
Do the three levels for yushan matron.
Carry him from Yama up to whatever level I can.
Does that look okay
Or should anything there be changed
keep in mind the season end soon, my tip is dont invest so much consumable material on recast
Yea that’s why I was debating if I should carry him or let him do it himself
Cuz if I carry
He can just stack up
Without worrying
But if he does ot himself
I think solo is way easier than 3 man
At least imo cuz I only do solo😅
i think you can carry until void 25
Oh oki
Great work!
I made 2 charts showing the expected damage increases from going for max Health or max Attack when at max Potential and Hero Level. It also assumes that Burn DMG is at least 70% of your total damage.
I currently have max potential on Wuchen. I do not know what is max level for the grid though.
And some of these guys say everything is too easy (while they’re running around full windfalls and some double 😂🥲)
Max Potential in this case is just having Untouchable Talent, Might 5/5 and Robust 5/5
Yup and also have to consider Attack multiplies with Burn damage.
yay a week without extra boss in speedrun 🎉
could some explain to me as if were a child the math behind the sense level x soul jade sense numbers in Shodwown?
higher level = mo damage
when its reseting, i mean which count of hrs
Lowest Sense Level is 450.
Add up the Sense Level of all 6 of your Souljades and divide by 6 to get your Sense Level. In-game it also rounds down.
yooooooooo
stuck on stage 32 against matron 
Is there a hero tier list anywhere
What is windfall anyway? I am not sure I have seen that name as I have been playing.
somehow locked in and rolled
Windfall basically increases all of the other attributes on that Souljade by a percentage. Let's say you have the following Attributes on a Souljade:
It would be equivalent to:
can it go over cap
Is this a effect on the souljades themself?
Yes
Yeah only the Souljade the Rare Attribute [Windfall] is on.
Thank you. SHOWDOWN IS SO HARD!!!!
SO MUCH INFORMATION
It becomes a lot simpler once you get the gist of how builds are made.
Since each build has about 3 Attributes that are good on it, with Attack being common in all builds and now the game also shows you the top builds.
Some of those top build were boo boo in my opinion. At least the current ones, lol.
OH so does attack have a cap in showdown souljades?
The one's under player favorites are usually accurate
4%, yeah
guys, scorching can go 12+
??
I apologize I meant in the character stats. I think I saw a few souljems max at 8 attack. I will look again in a second.
Hmm
Unless they patched it, it should be limited to 12
rn i noticed that i have scorch lev 3 on skyfire plus other 4 scorching on draco build, i have tryed to swich defuse solidification and goes up to 15
Yeah going to have to see if it's doing more damage
It should be a noticeable amount granted you don't have any new buffs going
@fierce light Great now I have to figure out what I saw. I know something I saw said max+4 but another had the same stat and say max+8. Did not know attack souljades can also have an additional attack stat.
In Yama's Abyss you can get multiple of the same attribute.
Aside from Rare Attributes.
Is the attack stat more important than things such as dmg to boss or charged attack?
Main DMG Attribute > Attack ≥ DMG to Boss > Weapon DMG Bonus > Charged/Uncharged Attack
tested, it doesn't seem to do more damage
Okay yup, still capped at 12 then most likely.
12 already does more Burn DMG than any of the other Burn Jades, 16 would make it do nearly double.
Thank you. The bigger the main attack stat the more hurt overall. I was so confused about that.
Technically against bosses, DMG to Boss is better than Attack, but that also depends on how much of the Main DMG Attribute you have.
those who has 4 scorching should be winning
Any tips on the speedrun for this week?
Wow he managed to make Temulch look fast. Like they playing a different game.
Is that 58?
correct
Oh hell nah ur crazy for using tem
hello there. i need tip which character to unlock specifically for showdown..
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demon elixir on?
Wuchen is a safe bet
thanks a lot
@fierce light Divine Thunder is maxed on this Jade but is not Orange. Is that normal?
Only rate attributes are a different color.
All this time I thought it meant the attribute was maxed....
Yo @fierce light what’s the speedrun
Haven’t been getting on for 2 days been on snow break lol
Autumn Plains
What’s that again?
Korvine boss
Easy mode?
Was about to say I did that speedrun with roguish and lbj in 2:46 but u haven’t been on either?
I've only been doing my weekly missions pretty much and getting as close to 600 fatigue as I can.
Been busy on my 2 WuWa accounts lmao. Waiting for some update as well.
Last time was ok was 30 minutes before reset yesterday for the login days
almost at gold for login days achievement so can’t miss anymore
Think at 350 or something
But snow break got me staying on it around about to be level 70 I had pre register for it before it came and forgot so last week ahead and got it
Yeah I hear that game is pretty f2p friendly as well
Not really tbh
Just like genshin with money
Genshin can do f2p prob even better than snow break
The presence we get daily on snowbreak isn’t enough and presence is pretty much what u need to keep doing missions and stuff
A lot of stuff don’t need to use it tho
U should get it fr
its someone here to help me complete a 49 or 52 stage of yama abyss ( European Server)?
what sjs do you have?
Wait @fierce light it’s gelid yueshan for speed
2 boss speedruns back to back?
Not complaining tho
I might try it.
Oh yeah that's interesting. They probably realized double boss is the most popular atm.
Really hoping they have a new end-game mode in store next season.
It’s not even double just that annoying freeze shit
bro what
im not looking for a good
i got a question
ups sorry
In the doom section?
oooh yeah i see it now
thanks!
if you dont mind anlother question
what do you reccomend i pen my potential points on?
i play kurumi, and usually solos
Something like this if you're using a Thunder Counter build
or this if you're using an Ice Blast build.
oooh okay okay
i am using the thunder build
thanks a lot!
another questions if you dont mind
whats the fastest way to get souljades?
like is there anything in particular that would get me more souljades then another?
Enigma Domain gives the highest rate of Souljades. But usually of poor quality so it becomes mainly for boosting Sense Level.
Yama's Abyss is the 2nd best bit though, with a better rate of Rare+ drops.
im just looking for boosting sense level or rerolling stats so
i think that'll work
Yo, @fierce light I've been messing with ice builds on valda, but I'm having a hard time getting a feel for which build performs better. You mind taking a look at my potential (missing 2 from season quests) and the two jade builds and letting me know where you think I can improve?
btw, mortal deficiance has 25 moderation, and armored artist has 27% ice blast and 4% melee damage. Have them in build 3 to try to squeeze some more damage
Souljade Effects > Attributes in terms of the damage they offer.
Not having Sub-Zero Seal and Tundra Might makes you proc Ice Blast nearly twice as slow and for less damage.
Depths Blast can probably be replaced with Armored Artist so mobbing isn't as painful. It ends up having a wierd interaction with Yushan Shadows because it can make you summon Matron while Ice Blast is on cooldown
@fierce light My natural combat stat attack power is 215. I thought using jades to boost that number would be wise but the number did not increase by much.
Yeah most attack effects won't show on your stat screen, unless they have no condition to be active or are active when starting out.
I often use my charge move with wuchen, so I was thinking perhaps I should try and get my overall damage up against boss and none boss characters might be better?
In terms of attriubtes you want something like the following:
Burn builds differ a bit though since Burns don't scale from DMG Bonuses, so it goes like:
Melee damage improves the damage of all types of melee attacks?
Lol, my luck is miserable. My jades with good thunder damage are ice wielding.
I tried
You just need the right jade with Thunder Wielding, you can work on the attributes later. Although if it has high % attributes that helps.
Attributes are the effects of the jades right?
No, they are the stats below it. Like DMG to Boss, Ice Blast DMG, etc.
You can recast them
I apologize. My wording was wrong. That was what I was referring to.
20 ping must be nice but not knockin the skill it still takes especially on Telmulch.
Yeah his defuse is not that reliable at all at 60+ ping
this
In speed run's I get anywhere from 100 - 120 Ping living in North America || Nevada || which is just || https://tenor.com/view/tom-hanks-forrest-gump-not-a-smart-man-not-smart-gif-8920808641154822429 ||
are there any strategies for speedrun this week, like is there a specific team comp
anyone know how much dmg + - for having higher sense level than recommended?
like 5 point = 5% dmg increase or something?
Does health increase damage on burn builds or is there just for the extra health?
yes
Crap need to recast a bunch lol
story of our life 😭
Blazing Flame (Potential) is core to all Burn builds and makes your burns scale off Health %.
Anyone in SEA server is up for the current Gelid Yushan Doom Speedrun? We are currently short on 1 person

Want to join?
nope
Aww
im passed
Damn
nah, just pass =))
Good for you then
Na can get 40 ping won’t lie might just be ur connection go to ur wifi settings what does it say u get for mbs
On ur pc
Yea it’s only hard when doing it with a team
Because don’t have to worry about boss attacking randomly
Illinois to ||Nevada|| is pretty far, could be a reason your ping is so bad. Not sure if they have a West Coast node.
Ah I didn’t even notice he said that no wonder
Who were you using?
@fierce light I have a question if someone had 15% hp with 3 windfalls on one jade what is the % that hp would be
37.5%
So if someone was crazy enough to do this on defuse thaw it could work on burn build lol
For this speedrun
Was just wondering ty
Ew why on Defuse Thaw lmao
They dont people most people ive talked to either in central or east have all around same ping give or take
Brother the fact you think I am on Wifi is crazy. Also download speed doesnt immediately translate to Ping. Ping is what I relate tothe server node in distance. I can have 1000 down and 200 up which is what I have give or take....but 110 ping with very low JItter on top of that.
What u talking about not what I asked
I replaced Copper Ward with Cinderfrost
TF u talking bout not what you asked....read it again
My guy I was asking for ur wifi speed and how much it was providing to ur pc if ur gonna get upset everytime someone ask u something after u say something about ur ping or something about ur game don’t say shit at all like real shit
But this was before I seen where u lived
I didn't get upset fool I gave you information on what I thought you were asking me....Obviously I thought you ment download speed not the 1000/1000 bs but since you keep saying wifi settings its throwin me off. Maybe just elaborate instead of "What you talkin bout not what I asked? like your fuggin talkin down to someone.
Also your the one yappin bout what my ping could be without any knowledge where I live, but beside all this that still wouldn't affect my "PING" to the server node.
Just realized the gameplay is sped up in this VOD. That's why it makes it look even crazier I think.
That's normal speed I believe. Based on how Matron is moving. Just really fast animation cancels.
doesnt the timer look faster or am i trippen, I could be mistaken.
Crazy he can hit the counter attack and have low enough ping to re counter the faster attack as well .
Timer looks normal to me.
I’m guessing this is CN or sea server?
Probably CN with how quick everything was
Sea says on the right side where the id is
That has [CN] on it
Which again makes since with how quick everything was especially with temulch
Oh
Oh shi my bad ngl we were talking about the same video but some reason I was thinking it was sea because just watched some stuff from sea my bad bro lol
No smuggler no demon elixirs all those rings 5 jades (was lucky to get 2 in rooms) at 2nd boss and then 4 rooms out of 12 protect the soul altar JUST to get her health down barely past the letters in her name. Both deaths were on a soul altar getting juggled between the ice mound and enemies attacking. The fact that I get one demon elixir on any boss and I clear it in 23 min instead even with having the worse room possible 4/12 times is ridiculous
Let them know what yall think, #1271541232220377169 message.
That is pretty crazy
I got the damn aegis one all three times
Yep and the fact to me that if I had 1 demon elixir I would of cleared in 23 min or less is what breaks the camels back for me
I don’t think even if I didn’t die twice I would of had enough time. Only thing I possibly could of had enough is if I had ember on 2nd boss instead of defuse solidification
It’s not even about skill anymore it’s just all pure luck
recasted my defuse raging flame 65 times trying to get a second rare on there with no luck.....I switch to Defuse Aegis break since my last open jade and get it first try
Can't get a 2nd rare through recasting, only imbuing.
Lol less than 1000 damage difference between 2 matches.
Nah that’s not attack I was talking about
I seen this she did her swing attack from her eerie
Wished I clipped it
tai with copper
Lol?
Crazy what happens when I actually get one demon elixir. (Notice all my rings were only lv 1 except for charred flame and the other run I posted had all lv 3 or 2 but no demon elixir and ran out of time)
This game is so bad….
Congrats tho
Oh yeah I’m hoping that luck will carry over to the first few runs on 59 like it usually does then go play something else finally lol
Thanks
so you'll finally stop blaming your severe skill issue on chinese players now ?

These stages have nothing to do with skill, it’s all about rng and we’ve already confirmed SEA and CN servers get FAR better “rng” with recasting jades, rewards and jades/rings in Yamas
They swap over to NA servers with our rng on 60fps and 60-80 ping let’s see how they do
Doubt they would get past 55 before quitting and complain a hell of a lot more than we have with the state of Yamas
question, does burn and soaked (hydroflare) count as elemnetal effects?
No
It’s not element but triggering thunder can trigger burn if ur running all green in potential
Just triggers burn not make it do more
ooh okay
alr thanks
so the elemental dmg anima in yama wont help with hydroflare in terms of dmg (only the accumulation one would help in terms of triggering burn)
ye ye
Seasons over in 18 days so who knows what everything will do then though
that oine that makes triggering thunder faster which helps with burn cuz im running all green
Doubt they’ll keep all the burn potential nodes
Potentials will be changed
Only potential prob won’t change much will be red
It’s pretty much exactly same as it was last season
Yeah, wonder what the next meta will be. Element again or do they bring in another new mechanic
@dusk plover Bad mindset, you can’t expect anyone in the top10 to believe something like a server is more advantaged than another server just because you had a few bad runs.
The whole point of Yama is luck, on top of your skill being flawless, you only need a single shot at a stage to complete it, you average 3 deaths a run what kinda luck are you talking about. How many runs have you missed just because you died or was scared of the boss and saving your f instead of proc ing skilled fire chant, you don’t even run copper.
The luck excuse can only take you so far.
Cn does have a advantage just saying
Clearly the only server that can get even below 40 ping chill
Oh and sea my bad
ping and luck are two different things
we're not talking about ping
No im just saying cn and sea does have advantages that’s all I wasn’t reading a whole paragraph so I just seen first part
Never lost a potential run from dying only from soul altar dying or time. Where did the average 3 deaths come from? I’ve seen multiple runs from high players clear with 1-2 deaths still and my skill is always on cooldown, what skill is there even viable to use to “save” you from a boss? I don’t even use gold for beads unless I think there’s an actual chance and it’s usually off juggling into multiple attacks. Change “a few runs” to about 600 where 580 or more of them were shops with only 1 jade in them. Can’t do copper ward on eerie monsters while on 60 fps and about 80 ping, too many undodgable attacks after defusing depending on the hero. You can’t react defuse like you can with low ping and high fps on some attacks, it’s just predicting they throw it or not.
imo tian skill sometimes can save from boss
Understandable but if you can activate it then you can defuse that attack unless you’re up in the air for some reason.
im pretty sure that skill can be activate under attack so when you miss 1 defuse you can break chain attacks
about copper on eerie boss we dont have any stage in campain outside enigma peak for training so yes on that point i understand 👍
Oh well haven’t even tried that before 😂 I just know you could do it in mid air to cancel a fall animation to not get hit into another attack
Yeah and imagine trying to do it on 80ms let alone 60fps
Some of moves on bosses are already predict defuses for me. If I tried to react defuse especially on trios most of the time it won’t register and I get hit
58 was just the bane of my existence due to the amount of shit luck I had every day since the day it came out hence the complaining. Only had 3 runs actually line up to go to final boss and 2 of them were today (one I ran out of time and one that I cleared) other one got cucked on a soul altar that was destroyed in 23 seconds on the very last room lol
which heroes you use?
I’ve cleared 50 with everyone and then 55 with Wuchen feria and 57-58 tarka tianhi
fastest so far
Anybody up to help me with one quick chaos of the immortals?
sure