extremely spammy to fight against. But they are fun to use, crouch spam goes brrrrrr
#💬┃general-chat
bright void
bright void
i was CRYING earlier fighting an actual player use it
I came second before cause someone charge attack spammed and I couldn't do anything about it because of the attack interups
woven radish
I haven't fought someone using it surprisingly but I've been using it myself and yeah, spammy but fun
shy latch
the person i fought was spamming it and it was easy to time when to counter bc of that
💀
i was countering on impulse
woven radish
I would just surrender after being countered like that lol
shy latch
LOL
shy latch
eager trail
Salamaleykum maleykum SALAMMM
graceful tangle
Joined the server first thing i see is pronouns
shy latch
wat
olive roost
Guys IS it ok 22.3G update for thé game ??
winged crane
Yo anyone on trynna play?
shy latch
Guys IS it ok 22.3G update for thé game ??
this is normal, it’s replacing files whenever the game gets updated
random light
glacial plaza
eager trail
Nothing you can choose your pronoun now
Y helps eboys not get confused when looking for a duo
stable island
coarse horizon
This battlepass is probably the worst... is so bland... all others were really good. Looks like they lost the imagination to create something good. Really disappointed.
stone river
Wow, they included Yoto in Baize shop
south wharf
cedar cloud
fair geode
again no yotohime update or stuff...
rotund aspen
What’s a yotohime?
young raven
What’s a yotohime?
Heyo
ancient karma
I have a question, what mode would give the most battle pass xp
drifting willow
good question; arguably normnal matches i'd say?
normal*
for quests it's better showdown for sure, since they are pretty much a guarantee as long as you can finish the levl
steady swan
young raven
for quests it's better showdown for sure, since they are pretty much a guarantee...
Showdown first boss map is battlepass xp/time cost
deep forge
Awuhhh the hello kitty bundle is so cute I think I’m def might make a bad financial decision loll
drifting willow
Awuhhh the hello kitty bundle is so cute I think I’m def might make a bad financ...
u can resist, i believe in you!
civic quail
Question: Would you take 1 million dollars up front, or would you take 1 penny per day for a month but your amount doubles every day. For that month.
drifting willow
Question: Would you take 1 million dollars up front, or would you take 1 penny p...
imma go for the second option
2^30 is waaay more 🤔
civic quail
You just gained 4,368,709.12
deep forge
u can resist, i believe in you!
Buts their so cuteee I can’t even decide which one to choose :<
drifting willow
tyty
drifting willow
Buts their so cuteee I can’t even decide which one to choose :<
there is a good amount of time before the events ends; just take more time 👍
always good to let ideas simmer for a bit
drifting willow
the total on a penny a day would be $5,368,709.12
had figured smth like that, yeah
what made you start calculating this btw?
someone offered it to you?
civic quail
had figured smth like that, yeah
You would be supprised how many would just take the 1 million
civic quail
someone offered it to you?
i just like brain teasers and mental math etc
civic quail
i personally prefer puzzles, but they are indeed fascinating 👍
oh i love me some puzzles
drifting willow
(by puzzles i mean things like rubrik's cubes,... things that can put my thinking to the test)
twin aurora
hello ppl
twin aurora
hello hello
helloww
twin aurora
and good morning to you <:Kylin_hearty:1270751990284161044>
good afternoon for but still thank you ^_^
drifting willow
oh, i see 😆
drifting willow
yep!
civic quail
drifting willow
puzzle boxes are the best
drifting willow
oh, nice
civic quail
I wanted this one but it was only sent to content creators
drifting willow
it looks super cool 🤔
civic quail
for the artowrk its the same as the telsa box but the artwork is diffrent
civic quail
But ya i kind of ngl search etsy for them too
twin aurora
hellow @main storm sir
drifting willow
yeah
at low price is also nearly impossible sadly
the more interesting they are, the more the cost
tranquil maple
random light
keen vessel
hello hello
yo
did u like new weapon
i personally like it but dislike the ping abuse aspects of it
i hope they fix them
basically rolling ur face on ur keyboard is true with this weapon
unless ur against very low ping
drifting willow
did u like new weapon
i really like it tbf
feels kinda weird to fight 1v1 with it atm, mostly because of the charging animations for hold checking, but it's super good
keen vessel
i like the movement cuz no one knows about the 12 movement tech yet
drifting willow
what i'm most afraid of atm is viper
those buffs she just got are insane
just got 100 to 0 twice by the same one
keen vessel
feels kinda weird to fight 1v1 with it atm, mostly because of the charging anima...
ye 1v1 .9 vs .9 blue u have a disadvantage i found
drifting willow
couldnt do anything
drifting willow
but if you can give decent pressure it's goign to be insane
drifting willow
i know she is cancer
18 sec of constant silence...
how is that balances
balanced 😆 *
but yeah, imma write a quick text with all my thoughts and hints about the new weapon after my first day of testing with it somewhere today 👍
definitely one of my favourites so far
keen vessel
18 sec of constant silence...
if u dont ult 1st action vs viper u are throwing
which is already weird
cuz she will run
so u have to gamble a lil
drifting willow
yep
keen vessel
and ults like justina dont even do sht
drifting willow
also for some reason people in this early season love to do 1.0 releases on repeat and for some reason most of them are unparriable
drifting willow
and ults like justina dont even do sht
i was on lyam 😆
keen vessel
cuz even if u justina ult
drifting willow
nothing to be done
drifting willow
yepyep
drifting willow
yeah
keen vessel
always been like that
drifting willow
should be longer
drifting willow
even the combo breaker v is cancer
eah
keen vessel
i fought this viper
combo broke + canceled ult
ran
then ate firefly
and had ult again
:)))))
deft pollen
keen vessel
eah
its insane u can save like 25-30% if u cancel quickly
u combo break, ult and let enemy run from u then cancel and run
drifting willow
yeah
keen vessel
its an actual strat now
and if ur movement is on point the initial distance gained from ur enemy disengaging and hiding behind cover already guarentees ur safety
or if ur on flying knives
just lmb rmb forever
until enemy runs out of grapples
🙂
insane how there is exactly 0 punishable frames with spamming lmb rmb dodge lmb rmb
drifting willow
there should be 🤔
young raven
They mentioned increase throwing knives rmb initial throw recovery
keen vessel
They mentioned increase throwing knives rmb initial throw recovery
yeah its not rmb 1, we are talking about rmb 2
u spam lmb 1 rmb 2
into dodge lmb 1 rmb 2 repeat
consumes no stamina
and is faster than db movement by spamming dodges back to back
and unlike heng feint, this one has no punish frames
because u dont hold blue
u just send lmb and rmb
which are not staggerable by grapple in any frame
keen vessel
yeah well 1v1 running xd
if ur enemy is running u will catch them easy if they dont break ur angles
and if they are chasing u
u dont even need to break angles
just use that tech and they cant reach u xd
its kinda like a perma tarka ult or akos ult if that makes sense
drifting willow
fair
young raven
I see
keen vessel
u dodge react
thorny tiger
Can’t really don’t out of the attack also throws a knife at you
keen vessel
and then parry
thorny tiger
and then parry
Usually if you are sure it’s gonna be a blue
100% not sure
The jump 123 one is easy to react dodge or parry
keen vessel
the rmb blue is non reaction parriable but its reaction dodgable into parry
drifting willow
I’m not sure, but 123 blue one of them is unreactable
dodge is super consistent against it tbf
thorny tiger
He can miss his shot and not get parried
thorny tiger
With a weapon that skips neutral with horizontal throw
thorny tiger
It stuns you on clash, no?
thorny tiger
yeah change ur playstyle
Well the moment I see a knife guy
keen vessel
knives blue is slow
thorny tiger
Spam blue is the only tactic I know
thorny tiger
Spam blue works against knives
If you dodge their blue charge
They are not hitting cuz if no aim assist in pc
keen vessel
just stand in their face and jump parry in anticipation for 1.0 blue release
if they didnt parry with u, release ur next blue hold
if they parried with u, overhold ur next blue
chances are they are either gonna parry or if they wait long then they are gonna release
and then u release clash with them
keen vessel
its not regular hold checking
this only works for this weapon
cuz its blue is slower
thorny tiger
It kinda is
keen vessel
so u can react clash blues
meaning in 1v1 hold blue in face u have an advantage with other weapons
thorny tiger
so u can react clash blues
You can react clash fan and dagger mid distance too
keen vessel
fan and dagger blues are much faster
and good fan and dagger players will not let u stay far
they will force u to close distance
cuz of their poke dmg
as fan i will simply poke u as u are holding blue and dodge out
and then i will wind wall u
u will get pissed
and will want to stay on my face
spare saffron
yapyapyap
keen vessel
living up to my role
eager trail
I watched adolescence randomly on netflix and now I see its like big popular on tiktok etc 😮
Recommending to watch it. Its 4 episode show
spare saffron
should watch inazuma eleven
tranquil maple
keen vessel
was just watching frozt
and he died to the exact thing i was telling yall about xdddd
both held blue at the same time
knives doesnt win 1v1 face to face blue holds
so now u know how to clap knives
also, knives has another weakness
katana rotate around enemy with shift lmb
since it requires manual aim
knives wont be able to release blue punish
and will get cooked
unless u are dealing with top tier aim
drifting willow
knives doesnt win 1v1 face to face blue holds
he didnt release tho
he parried
u can clearly see the beginning of the red flash when he got hit
(beginning of parry animation)
hence it's normal for him to get hit
too late on the parry and there never was a clash situation there 👍
keen vessel
too late on the parry and there never was a clash situation there 👍
he knew his blue wasnt gonna release in time so he held dodge parried
and since buffers arent sent to the server he got redflashed even at 18 ms
keen vessel
hold dodge parry should have 0 activation frames
drifting willow
just the beginning of the parry animation; glowing red does not mean u are in red flash animation 👍
keen vessel
but
keen vessel
buffers arent sent to server
drifting willow
all parries have activation time
for the animation and flahs
some are faster
but none is 0 ms
cuz if that was the case you could react parry all
which u cant
minimum should be around 130 ms i think?
dont remember the exact numbers
keen vessel
nah, hold dodge parry is supposed to be 0 ms but ping is 18 and buffers arent sent to the server so it actually takes 9 ms for it to register
drifting willow
here you have the numbers
hold dodge and mid dodge parries still have activations 👍
7 frames specifically
keen vessel
this site is not reliable and outdated
it says buffers are sent to the server which was proven wrong
leaden coral
Today had a rough start 
this nitro cold brew will help hopefully
drifting willow
Today had a rough start <:binlag2Tired:1123796820234084352> this nitro cold brew...
nitro cold brew? what's that?
drifting willow
this site is not reliable and outdated
still, all parries have activation time
also takao explains it
🤷♂️ 🤔
drifting willow
https://tenor.com/view/anime-happy-excited-smile-gif-5723668
hello hello 
leaden coral
nitro cold brew? what's that?
It's an iced coffee but stronger
twin aurora
hello hello <:ZipingYin_GiftFlowers:1044500372548493363>
hello sir
drifting willow
It's an iced coffee but stronger
i see 🤔
sounds interesting
not that i can ever drink it, but it sounds interesting 😆
leaden coral
not that i can ever drink it, but it sounds interesting 😆
Lol the name makes me think I'm gonna start tokyo drifting
twin aurora
Good morning! <:Feria_RUAA:1349776571786858658>
evening for me
but still thank u good morning ^_^
leaden coral
Then i drink it and I start tokyo drifting
twin aurora
morning <:BungeeWave2:1195680428816875602>
evening
leaden coral
keen vessel
still, all parries have activation time
which is a lie
cuz buffers arent sent to the server
so even dodge parries get eaten due to ping
keen vessel
still, all parries have activation time
the activation time is equal to ur ping
half ur ping*
thats all u need to know
for hold dodge parries
drifting willow
this sounds inaccurate 🤔
but then again, i might be wrong
@waxen tulip u prolly knw better than me? 🤔
keen vessel
this sounds inaccurate 🤔
what this site fails to convey is that, dodge parries cancel the delay of the ENEMY ping
not ur own ping
waxen tulip
Might have been true
I used to mention that statement in my general combat guide
But I don't feel it's true anymore
Or rather there definitely is a time between i-frame and active parry
but it might be shorter than usual
idk
drifting willow
leaden coral
keen vessel
against high ping dodge parry will let ur own ping be the only deciding factor to the responsiveness thats what i figured out from my 1.5 years of getting parry robbed
but if ur own ping is ass
sht will still fail
even with a dodge parry
without a dodge parry the deciding factor is ur own ping + enemy ping
umbral acorn
keen vessel
to be exact its half ur ping and half ur enemy ping
this is why u need to parry earlier vs high ping
also @waxen tulip i noticed some buffers are sent to the server and others arent
movement buffers are sent to the server. This is why if u hold blue while in knocked down state, u can appear as if u stood still but without holding blue to ur enemy if ur ping is ass
cuz ur position changed
and was sent to the server
but the state in which ur in blue was not sent to the server
which is so dumb
waxen tulip
ngl
half the things you say hardly make sense
when you're knocked down
you neither stand
nor hold blue
you lie down
drifting willow
suicide
drifting willow
wakeup blues have a really long startup animation, so you are vulnerable for half of it
it's not a instant focus stance
waxen tulip
Holding blue after wakeup is so molasses slow than even high lmbs like that of katana can catch you
Holding after wakeup is a dogsht option in 99% of all cases
unless your enemy got conditioned into tech chasing every time
drifting willow
not sure what enemies you are fighting 🤔 ; i feel like tech chase is not the standard option for the ones i face
🤔
keen vessel
oh wait i think i misworded it
drifting willow
👍
drifting willow
after an enemy restand or yours?
keen vessel
they are comboing u
drifting willow
yeah, it's slow
drifting willow
that's the bad option we were talking about
keen vessel
thats the only correct option
drifting willow
?
keen vessel
if u dodge u gonna get tech chased
drifting willow
to get comboed again usually
keen vessel
100%
keen vessel
wym no
waxen tulip
How does that have anything to do with movement inputs tho
Higher ping just makes you getting focus armor slower, so higher ping performs worse in restand situations
drifting willow
if they catch you always it means you are either spam dodging to wake up or you are predictable
drifting willow
even 30ms can't armor most restand lines
i'm on 25 and i can attest that 👍
waxen tulip
That's líke the only meaningful difference I felt between 15ms and 30ms
15ms armors a ton of restands
while 30ms even on high fps won't armor shit
in restand situations
brittle bay
Happy Wednesday everyone stay safe today💕💕
azure boneBOT
🎉 | puerto leveled up!
keen vessel
if they catch you always it means you are either spam dodging to wake up or you ...
no they react tech chase
with katana's lmb
after the blue
drifting willow
should t be possible to catch you 100% of times
20% should be the best they can do
unless you always do the same thing
keen vessel
i hold blue and they cant catch
drifting willow
if u check pros, even they dont insta focus
keen vessel
but if i dodge
they always do
oh yes i checked pros they always blue after katana combo
esp in cn
i was watching wufeng and paste
and every single time
they hold blue
waxen tulip
Well, holding blue after restand is a good option on low ms where focus armoring is actually p fast
so makes sense
keen vessel
then why is it a good option for me too
keen vessel
it is tho
every time i dodge i get react chased
and my blue hold after a tap or hold dodge or even double tap dodges are even slower than a restand hold blue
(i cant double tap dodge even if i input it anyways so)
waxen tulip
I mean, if their restand has a quick follow up, it just isn't
Ofc it's an option if their restand has no quick follow up
It just depends on the case
but latter case is irrelevant anyway
keen vessel
also thanks to the new katana change, there is a new ping abuse combo
wanna guess it
waxen tulip
cuz there the option selection is same for everyone
drifting willow
wanna guess it
tell me
keen vessel
guess
keen vessel
since afaik there are no ping combos 🤔
regular grapple combo
followed by rmb blue
is now true with ping abuse involved
drifting willow
too slow
keen vessel
🙂
drifting willow
i can see it happening at high ping
but it should not work for most cases
it's completely untrue
keen vessel
it never worked before
keen vessel
i was always able to parry or dodge that sht
now nah
even buffered tap dodge
doesnt save u
drifting willow
it is fully parriable
and also dodgeable
got punished for it too many times 😆
in custom rooms
drifting willow
what ping u playing on?
drifting willow
85 is nto a ping where you can safely make statements about combos tho 🤔
keen vessel
it was way more balanced before
drifting willow
you get rubberbanded by half the things in the world
keen vessel
you get rubberbanded by half the things in the world
yeah which is why i can tell if something is true or not
from rubberbands
drifting willow
it was way more balanced before
you mean when high ping could combo and infiinite out of literally anything on any weapon?
hell nah
drifting willow
before netcode
drifting willow
when talking about high ping, that's usually the break point 🤷♂️
keen vessel
im talking about katana
drifting willow
what were you talking about if not that? sry for misunderstanding
keen vessel
the new katana change
drifting willow
im talking about katana
the faster windup?
keen vessel
which u will be at melee range after a combo
drifting willow
and then again i didnt have any trouble dodging it today 🤔
drifting willow
nor do you on super high 🤔
keen vessel
on avg global ping is 60 which is closer to my ping than urs
drifting willow
going up rubberbands and such improve exponentially tho
so it's not really safe to assume that i'd say 👍
we need the opinion of someone on 60
keen vessel
no like my question was why did they change katana
to f up the average global players?
wtf were they thinking
deft pollen
What did they do to katana?
drifting willow
they didnt? 🤔
keen vessel
they did
drifting willow
they made it smoother to play
thorny tiger
Is 40 ping close to 60?
drifting willow
What did they do to katana?
the right click followup after focus attack comes out a bit faster
deft pollen
I mean what did they change to it
keen vessel
thats the definition of less smooth
umbral acorn
drifting willow
Is 40 ping close to 60?
we take it
thorny tiger
If yeah, then I haven’t noticed anything yet
keen vessel
the right click followup after focus attack comes out a bit faster
a lot faster
deft pollen
the right click followup after focus attack comes out a bit faster
Hmmm
thorny tiger
Maybe a bit, but in game doesn’t change much
keen vessel
to the point where high ping cant dodge it anymore
drifting willow
a lot faster
a lot faster would be 2x; this is not even a 0.5x improve by feel 🤔
keen vessel
enough to make it true against 50% of global players which is so bs
drifting willow
dont assume 50% of global players are high ping pls; most players are not on high ping
deft pollen
whatchu thinkin about<:tarka_sideeye_what:844832526475722802>
Ambushing you 
umbral acorn
Ambushing you <:tarka_sideeye_what:844832526475722802>
real
umbral acorn
fogg murder on my mind
umbral acorn
We gonna team up on him?
of course
drifting willow
there are a lot of high ping players for sure, but definitely not the majority
keen vessel
NA and SEA are mostly high ping
drifting willow
if it were so, we would have some huge changes to the game
versed pond
<@462567409027383298> you're cooked bro
naah
drifting willow
(ill be back in a bit, need to finish writing my report 😅 )
versed pond
you're cooked
drifting willow
<@462567409027383298> you're cooked bro
ahhhhhhhh i had nightmares this night 😆
that diluc haunted me
drifting willow
ahahah
drifting willow
ye, lost 50/50 on genshin
versed pond
drifting willow
😆
versed pond
ye, lost 50/50 on genshin
ohhhh
keen vessel
ahhhhhhhh i had nightmares this night 😆
btw when i 1v1'd Numi a long time ago, he said he found it very difficult to dodge my katana rmb follow up
versed pond
at least its not qiqi
deft pollen
at least its not qiqi
I got c4 recently instead
cedar cloud
umbral acorn
speaking of 1v1s, i shit on fogg, heh
drifting willow
and he is low ping
high-low ping interactions
u would need to test on 2 people with same ping
versed pond
I got c4 recently instead
might as well blow yourself up with it
drifting willow
or at least close
versed pond
drifting willow
high ping on low ping still can rubberband them
deft pollen
might as well blow yourself up with it
versed pond
speaking of 1v1s, i shit on fogg, heh
on na ping
twin aurora
versed pond
<:tarka_sideeye_what:844832526475722802>
did you get the joke?
thorny tiger
Isn’t the rmb follow up, the blue?
deft pollen
speaking of 1v1s, i shit on fogg, heh
Go beat him up rn
steady swan
keen vessel
high-low ping interactions
yes and its crazy they made those interactions worse with the katana change, why are they acting like they dont know these interactions are awful and are making them worse??
deft pollen
did you get the joke?
No and i dont want to
thorny tiger
When you wake up tech, you are usually out of reach, no?
versed pond
No and i dont want to
C4 brother
drifting willow
usually
versed pond
the explosive
deft pollen
C4 brother
Ye ik
thorny tiger
Katana follow up is 1 roll away
versed pond
sounds like alot of excuses
come eu then
keen vessel
When you wake up tech, you are usually out of reach, no?
wake up tech doesnt work if ur ping is high thats another funny thing
thorny tiger
wake up tech doesnt work if ur ping is high thats another funny thing
Ooooooo
umbral acorn
Go beat him up rn
last time i did that he pulled the racist card on me
deft pollen
last time i did that he pulled the racist card on me
LMAO
versed pond
last time i did that he pulled the racist card on me
huh?
thorny tiger
wake up tech doesnt work if ur ping is high thats another funny thing
My max stable ping was 80-90 so I wouldn’t know
versed pond
me?
deft pollen
What
umbral acorn
come eu then
womp womp
versed pond
when?
keen vessel
My max stable ping was 80-90 so I wouldn’t know
thats my ping
thorny tiger
It does kinda work
thorny tiger
Unless you fight 10 ping opponent
thorny tiger
The roll into dodge has enough I frames
versed pond
LMAO
what he did was pulling up strange's whip on me and saying something about the fields
keen vessel
The roll into dodge has enough I frames
the roll has
the wake up and standing still and letting them hit u
wont allow u to dodge after
deft pollen
what he did was pulling up strange's whip on me and saying something about the f...
LMAO
deft pollen
Thats wild
versed pond
you see what im dealing with
keen vessel
in a normal scenario, if the game worked properly and didnt eat sht during ping interactions, if u get hit by anything thats not a skill u should be able to dodge after u stand still after wake up rolling
umbral acorn
LMAO
not true, he was whipping me with strange, so i went black panther. and he started doing it more aggressively
versed pond
had to pull up the i had a dream
deft pollen
not true, he was whipping me with strange, so i went black panther. and he start...
Now which one do i trust 
versed pond
luther king wudda been proud
cedar cloud
amber basalt
what he did was pulling up strange's whip on me and saying something about the f...
what is it with stranges and whips
thorny tiger
in a normal scenario, if the game worked properly and didnt eat sht during ping ...
Cant you pre input it?
umbral acorn
had to pull up the i had a dream
nahhh 😭
versed pond
Now which one do i trust <:awkwardstare:1176897815725752362>
follow your guts
deft pollen
what is it with stranges and whips
He has a whip and aint afraid to use it 
versed pond
what is it with stranges and whips
deft pollen
follow your guts
The odds are against you then
versed pond
i'd whip that
keen vessel
Cant you pre input it?
pre input what
versed pond
The odds are against you then<:Matari_Laugh:844832526668136448>
i know
thorny tiger
@keen vessel @drifting willow can we move this somewhere
amber basalt
He has a whip and aint afraid to use it <:VeraShrug:841654706728468481>
he does that too jaan had to square up with him bc he kept doing it to me 
drifting willow
<@217565624933548032> <@649700720584425482> can we move this somewhere
what specifically?
amber basalt
10/10 emote
versed pond
he does that too jaan had to square up with him bc he kept doing it to me <:Pink...
adam warlock was thinking about life
thorny tiger
what specifically?
Your katana disc
versed pond
amber basalt
adam warlock was thinking about life
thinking of something for sure
versed pond
twin aurora
thinking of something for sure
drifting willow
it was more a rant about high ping 😆
umbral acorn
did your alt account krisshna get banned yet @versed pond
versed pond
10/10 emote
100%
versed pond
did your alt account krisshna get banned yet <@462567409027383298>
yea
for abput 2 weeks
thorny tiger
High ping is hard yeah
deft pollen
How did bro get banned 😭
leaden coral
Question: Would you take 1 million dollars up front, or would you take 1 penny p...
2nd option for sure
umbral acorn
How did bro get banned 😭
versed pond
2nd option for sure
@glass night would be proud
leaden coral
<@730592077548748821> would be proud
not difficult
leaden coral
I've done statistics
deft pollen
My disappointment of fog grows bigger and bigger every day
leaden coral
This is light work
versed pond
My disappointment of fog grows bigger and bigger every day
i got too drunk on power
amber basalt
crazy
versed pond
<:tarka_sideeye_what:844832526475722802>
i'll cheat quieter next time
umbral acorn
he’s cheating in game AND on me
deft pollen
i'll cheat quieter next time
umbral acorn
that’s crazy work
deft pollen
Failure
deft pollen
he’s cheating in game AND on me
He gonna become like sam
versed pond
bruh
dark coral
Cant you pre input it?
u can't buffer it
umbral acorn
he was slurring to sam behind his back
dark coral
afaik
umbral acorn
what a terrible human being
dark coral
that's why ping matters
drifting willow
he’s cheating in game AND on me
ayahh
deft pollen
He said he didn’t like me
After what i just saw i could say the same
versed pond
After what i just saw i could say the same <:tarka_sideeye_what:8448325264757228...
But
dark coral
Question: Would you take 1 million dollars up front, or would you take 1 penny p...
the latter is over 1 billion im taking that ty
thorny tiger
that's why ping matters
Gg then
thorny tiger
Don’t stand up fr
versed pond
is all you do lie
versed pond
But what <:tarka_sideeye_what:844832526475722802>
I rest my case
umbral acorn
https://tenor.com/view/jinx-jinx-arcane-arcane-arcane-season-2-arcane-s2-gif-153...
did you and isha finish it
leaden coral
https://medal.tv/games/marvel-rivals/clips/jYY6fcOYvE9BL2nSq?invite=cr-MSxrRzYsO...
Who is that
umbral acorn
Who is that
@versed pond cheating
versed pond
did you and isha finish it
Imma finish you
dark coral
u can still do a lot on high ping dont get me wrong
u can 100% win highest elo lobbies in ranked
just bc players will make mistakes
but having low ping and higher fps makes such a difference
umbral acorn
Imma finish you
you getting charged with SA
leaden coral
<@462567409027383298> cheating
Isn't he the strange
thorny tiger
u can 100% win highest elo lobbies in ranked
Really?
versed pond
you getting charged with SA
thorny tiger
120 ping can’t do grapple combos
dark coral
it can
glass night
2nd option for sure
deft pollen
I told you i was trying it out
@leaden coral he just admitted to it
dark coral
whoever told you that lied to you
indigo sky
which game is more gain EXP more between casual or shadow ?
versed pond
Isn't he the strange
Best modddd
thorny tiger
whoever told you that lied to you
I think I even posted videos
umbral acorn
Isn't he the strange
he controlling both accounts these cheats be getting crazy nowadays
dark coral
which game is more gain EXP more between casual or shadow ?
what
glass night
versed pond
<@331528683422744588> he just admitted to it <:tarka_sideeye_what:84483252647572...
Even you didn’t believe me
dark coral
I think I even posted videos
i have friend with 115ms
leaden coral
he controlling both accounts these cheats be getting crazy nowadays
Is this ranked
dark coral
he grapple combos consistently
thorny tiger
The bots gets out of ls tootpicking
versed pond
Is this ranked
Yea
thorny tiger
he grapple combos consistently
119 ms os the threshold
indigo sky
need farm my acc lvl
dark coral
bots get out of some true stuff
thorny tiger
120 and over is gg
dark coral
@keen vessel can u grapple combo
thorny tiger
he's like 111-115
Yeah under 120 I can still grapple
thorny tiger
<@217565624933548032> can u grapple combo
He is on 80-90 tho
umbral acorn
https://tenor.com/view/cyberdiver-gif-26447218
thorny tiger
Yeah I think so
dark coral
its not like it feels harder for him
versed pond
you lost my respect <:Yoto_fine:1248113296121532517>
Its not meeeee
keen vessel
it can
120 cant do normal true combo, they have to directly uppercut which isnt gonna happen.
versed pond
Noooo binnm
thorny tiger
120 cant do normal true combo, they have to directly uppercut which isnt gonna h...
Yeah yeah
dark coral
that's crazy
keen vessel
112 ms or less can true combo
dark coral
is that since the rollback change
keen vessel
is that since the rollback change
yeah
indigo sky
mine lvl is 88
thorny tiger
Magic netcode
dark coral
then my friend was on the limit of the limit i guess
keen vessel
still not fixed
thorny tiger
then my friend was on the limit of the limit i guess
Bro is on the line
dark coral
need farm my acc lvl
oh u mean showdown not shadow
keen vessel
2 ms away
thorny tiger
Maybe he has higher fps also
keen vessel
from losing true combos in eu
dark coral
im not sure tbh just play the mode you enjoy the most
indigo sky
yaaa
dark coral
whether it's ranked or showdown
glass night
https://tenor.com/view/chiikawa-hachiware-cartoon-anime-cute-gif-869731378567959...
i’m so proud that it made my morning
thorny tiger
Cuz on 120 I can’t
keen vessel
any minor ping spike makes enemies able to dodge
indigo sky
i see
keen vessel
like yesterday
dark coral
but if u get bored or it feels like a chore it beats the purpose
keen vessel
when i said ping spike
dark coral
i just play ranked and my acc level goes up fast
some ppl just play showdown and their acc level goes up too
keen vessel
i meant my ping for 0.5 secs went from 110 to 113
thorny tiger
when i said ping spike
5 ping up and we are done
dark coral
just make sure u use xp boosters
indigo sky
i do
dark coral
i meant my ping for 0.5 secs went from 110 to 113
damn that should be like nothing
they really gotta fix that
u say the uppercut part of ur combo is fucked?
the uppercut is not true?
versed pond
https://tenor.com/view/chiikawa-hachiware-cartoon-anime-cute-gif-869731378567959...
Binnnn
It wasn’t me
Everyone can hate me but not you
leaden coral
It wasn’t me
Idk what to believe anymore
thorny tiger
the uppercut is not true?
If you hit vert on ls and then upper on 120 or smth, they can dodge out
dark coral
what about other weapons
deft pollen
It wasn’t me
Thats what they all say
dark coral
duals, katanas, fisties...?
keen vessel
u say the uppercut part of ur combo is fucked?
basically the attacks before the uppercut have negative stagger, so ur enemy is able to dodge out before ur attack animation even finishes
dark coral
longsword feels harder for me to do than others, timing might be tighter
versed pond
Thats what they all say <:tarka_sideeye_what:844832526475722802>
Arent you supposed to he watching vinland
thorny tiger
Dh and db def not
keen vessel
so u cant do lmb into uppercut with staff for example
thorny tiger
Uppercut is slow
deft pollen
Arent you supposed to he watching vinland
Oh i wish
keen vessel
u lmb they dodge
deft pollen
When i get home maybe
thorny tiger
but do u do one attack or two?
1
thorny tiger
2 is soft true on all pings
dark coral
that sucks
deft pollen
Get to watching then
Cant
dark coral
they should rly fix that
deft pollen
leaden coral
i’m so proud that it made my morning
Glad I can make your morning 
hope you have a good day isha
final anvil
dark coral
on one hand i dont think anyone should have 100+ ms
dark coral
they should add more servers
but
if they're not gonna
the basic mechanics should work for everyone
but that's kinda hard to do i imagine
leaden coral
I just saw ep 3 of arcane
dark coral
when someone is 100+ms, SOMEONE has to get robbed
keen vessel
longsword feels harder for me to do than others, timing might be tighter
toothpick weapons aka weapons that can do lmb shift lmb (or rmb) can do 1 lmb or rmb and it will be SOFT true aka soft breakers break out still
deft pollen
Even better
I hope you stab your toe
umbral acorn
they should add more servers
que times would make me end it all
dark coral
what are toothpick weaponssss
dark coral
que times would make me end it all
if u want to reduce q timers
keen vessel
i explained it
keen vessel
attack dodge attack
keen vessel
aka longsword
dark coral
q timers would go 2x faster
keen vessel
or katana
dark coral
oh ok
leaden coral
if u want to reduce q timers
Also i think they should lower amount of players in a br lobby
dark coral
Also i think they should lower amount of players in a br lobby
ye
clearly there aren't enough to fill it out
so just remove the bots
leaden coral
Yep
dark coral
play with what we have it's fine
thorny tiger
Also i think they should lower amount of players in a br lobby
Yes and remove IW
Just let it be Asura lobbies
umbral acorn
q timers would go 2x faster
you won’t notice it if the server populations are more split bc of more servers
leaden coral
Yes and remove IW
Iw is fine, it's only open for a couple hrs
keen vessel
the basic mechanics should work for everyone
yeah imagine opening up marvel rivals and u cant shoot ur weapons because ur ping is above 112 xdddd
umbral acorn
I hope you stab your toe <:tarka_sideeye_what:844832526475722802>
that’s it?
thorny tiger
Iw is fine, it's only open for a couple hrs
Just make all ranked 20 players and Asura+ 12 or 16
dark coral
yeah imagine opening up marvel rivals and u cant shoot ur weapons because ur pin...
in MR no one has 100ms thats the thing
keen vessel
some do, if u wanna play with friends
thorny tiger
Remove IW or make it the main event
deft pollen
that’s it?
While wearing wet socks
leaden coral
Just make all ranked 20 players and Asura+ 12 or 16
Well iw has a few more differences than just amount of players
dark coral
true
thorny tiger
Well iw has a few more differences than just amount of players
Yeah yeah soulvlooms and money
dark coral
but MR has other issues
thorny tiger
And spirit wells
dark coral
MR's issues are worse
leaden coral
But yeah too many modes overall, i agree
keen vessel
like high ping needs to always be playable regardless of how many servers u have. So many ppl enjoy playing with their global friends
dark coral
to the point where I stopped playing that game
the game is all manipulation and addiction farming
engagement farming
there is no competition within the matches
leaden coral
the game is all manipulation and addiction farming
You're right. The ranked distribution is inflated af
thorny tiger
Add the cool spirit wells to ranked and make everything IW
dark coral
most matches are predetermined
umbral acorn
While wearing wet socks <:ZipingYin_GiftFlowers:1044500372548493363>
while spilling wet baking soda/vinegar on the wound
dark coral
and most modern games in comp use some type of EOMM, but not this much
keen vessel
most matches are predetermined
yeah i agree
thorny tiger
You're right. The ranked distribution is inflated af
Make it so that noobs like me can’t get to high ranks and don’t get qd with high ranks
versed pond
I hope you stab your toe <:tarka_sideeye_what:844832526475722802>
Stub? Or stab?
dark coral
and the only players who don't see it are the noobs benefitting from it
deft pollen
while spilling wet baking soda/vinegar on the wound
And while getting his sleeves wet while trying to get it out of the wound 
leaden coral
Make it so that noobs like me can’t get to high ranks and don’t get qd with high...
I was talking about rivals there xD
keen vessel
they say u can carry, well yes maybe in 15% of matches i can carry my already good team
steady swan
dark coral
u can carry maybe 20%
leaden coral
But yeah, this can be solved by smaller lobbies
thorny tiger
I was talking about rivals there xD
dark coral
the other 80% are predetermined
keen vessel
but 85% of the time my skill wont matter
dark coral
in other games
keen vessel
unless u team up with 6 ppl
dark coral
thats more like 60-40 split
keen vessel
5*
dark coral
u can impact 60%
40% are predetermined
by a team diff
but in MR it genuinely feels like 20-80
dark coral
unless u team up with 6 ppl
ye
if u team up with 6 u get SBMM
and you know what's more disgusting?
if you're a partnered streamer
you're whistelisted, you don't get affected by EOMM
you get SBMM solo queueing
keen vessel
you get SBMM solo queueing
lmao what
dark coral
so when ppl watch you they think it's good and fair
they released papers on this
on how their EOMM works
keen vessel
no way
keen vessel
hype died for me
keen vessel
im doing dailies
dark coral
giving u a high and then abusing u to make u chase it
keen vessel
once this bp finishes
dark coral
until it detects youve hit a low point where you're gonna quit
keen vessel
i may quit
dark coral
then it gives u another high
keen vessel
until game is fun again
dark coral
and u can actually abuse this system
to give urself better matches
if you have the patience to play on 2-3 accounts
go on win streak, after first loss change account, repeat
u will climb on 3 accounts faster than you would climb on just one account
cedar cloud
dark coral
that fact makes me not wanna play
tells u just how bad it is
and it sucks cause the core gameplay is sick
but when it's not a competition of skill I want nothing to do with it
keen vessel
i mean thats what mobas/OW style games are
dark coral
league has it too
just not to that extreme degree
in league u can impact probably 60% or more of your matches
dark coral
i dont think naraka uses it at all
in any mode
which means if u are him
u can carry every game
in games that don't use EOMM, only SBMM, if u are truly him, u can have 80%+ winrate
but in games where even the best players have near 50% wr, and the worst players have above 30% WR, that's a sign it uses heavy EOMM
keen vessel
btw what does EO stand for, I know what SBMM is not EO tho
dark coral
and it's a shame, it's going to be the death of SBMM but it makes way more money and retains players
keen vessel
elo something?
keen vessel
oh wtf the name is sketchy
dark coral
it optimizes how many players stay, how long they play, how much they spend, how much they get addicted and care
by all means it is optimal for business
but kills the competitive integrity
keen vessel
there is no way the game has it tho
dark coral
the only way to avoid it is to fully premake party, but then u get other penalties like -30% mmr gained, going vs higher elo enemies yada yada
keen vessel
i think its SBMM
dark coral
which game
keen vessel
mr
dark coral
most comp games use a mix of sbmm and eomm
marvel rivals has sbmm within it
it's just that it uses eomm very aggressively too
dark coral
it does
leaden coral
go on win streak, after first loss change account, repeat
A lot of times i will play until I lose... didn't realize i was gaming the system
dark coral
bc noobies make it to high ranks in MR
because you can't have EOMM unless there is a MASSIVE amount of players in each rank
keen vessel
bc noobies make it to high ranks in MR
they dont tho
dark coral
and if only good players make it to high ranks, then they can't use their system
so they let the noobies climb
they do trust me
there are ppl who should be silver and gold
in GM lobbies
keen vessel
they are carried