dry ridge
hello, i am having issues for a couple of weeks now and i taught it was the bl touch that broke so i installed a IDM scanner. but i get the same results. it worked before i updated klipper. but i cant seem to find out what is wrong now. can someone with a ender 5 pro based mercury one and double Z share me his printer config so i can compare?
spark apex
Did you unplug any steppers when you did this?
increasing range often is a sign the z steppers are swapped
if thats not it, might just be a IDM issue
edgy linden
When I was having the same issue, it was because I had ztilt probing stepper Z1 first instead of stepper Z. After switching the steppers it went away. And ztilt functioned properly. Every so often I still get probe point increasing usually just restarting Z tilt again will fix it.
dry ridge
if thats not it, might just be a IDM issue
had the same issue with the bl touch
dry ridge
Did you unplug any steppers when you did this?
nope
dry ridge
When I was having the same issue, it was because I had ztilt probing stepper Z1 ...
tried a lot its not going away, i tried switching but same result
edgy linden
tried a lot its not going away, i tried switching but same result
Double check that the motors are moving the same way maybe?
This is my z tilt config
On 5+
https://www.klipper3d.org/Config_checks.html#verify-stepper-motors
You can use stepper buzz to verify both motors are moving the same direction
runic cove
@dry ridge Can you share your stepper_z and stepper_z1 config? Also, what mainboard are you using?
dry ridge
https://www.klipper3d.org/Config_checks.html#verify-stepper-motors
You can use ...
they are, i can mowe my bed completely down and completely up
dry ridge
<@782729244207087649> Can you share your stepper_z and stepper_z1 config? Also, ...
yeah sure. i am using a btt skr1.4
edgy linden
Have you tried running probe accuracy test? To verify the probe is reading correctly. But that wouldn’t explain why it wasn’t working with a different probe as well.
What version of klipper did you update to?
runic cove
This is my z tilt config
I believe your Z_Tilt config is wrong.
the z_position should never be 0 for the Plus.
runic cove
Yeah, since the front left of the bed should be 0,0
spark apex
Position is the point that it pivots
runic cove
Exactly, the leadscrew position.
edgy linden
I have been meaning to fix that. When I first switched to klipper, I wasn’t exactly sure how to set that up right but it’s always worked with the way it is so I haven’t worried about it.
dry ridge
What version of klipper did you update to?
i did a fresh instal of mainsail os and then updated klipper to the latest
dry ridge
Have you tried running probe accuracy test? To verify the probe is reading corre...
yes, probe accuracy is good, cant remember the exact number
dry ridge
the z_position should never be 0 for the Plus.
what do you mean?
dry ridge
This is my z tilt config
i tried to switch the positions and points but gave me other errors
runic cove
what do you mean?
It goes by the position of the pivot points of Z which are the leadscrews.
Since the front left corner of the bed should be defined as the origin (0,0), with the leadscrew being to the left, it would be in the negative range.
edgy linden
i tried to switch the positions and points but gave me other errors
Don’t follow my config example I posted above. I need to update it.
edgy linden
i did a fresh instal of mainsail os and then updated klipper to the latest
It only started giving you this error after you updated, right?
spark apex
also try sending the command STEPPER_BUZZ STEPPER=stepper_z and STEPPER_BUZZ STEPPER=stepper_z1
make sure the first one moves your left motor, and the second moves the right motor
dry ridge
Since the front left corner of the bed should be defined as the origin (0,0), wi...
same result with these
spark apex
Did you try the Stepper buzz commands
dry ridge
make sure the first one moves your left motor, and the second moves the right mo...
correct z is left and z1 is right. i checked that in the beginign before i swapped the bl touch and now checked again to be sure
dry ridge
Did you try the Stepper buzz commands
yes
spark apex
With the command?
dry ridge
With the command?
yes
spark apex
You also did the buzz on z1?
dry ridge
You also did the buzz on z1?
yes
spark apex
Only asking because it's possible to plug both into z
The first z driver has split z, which I am not a fan of
And you have 4 start lead screws?
When you command it to move 10mm, does it move 10mm?
dry ridge
And you have 4 start lead screws?
yes
spark apex
Or is it moving 5 or 20mm
dry ridge
yes the moving distances are correct
spark apex
Hmm not sure what else it could be
You could run a probe accuracy test
Also verify the z motor couplers are tight on the steppers and lead screws
I have forgotten to tighten those before
And that will cause z tilt to fail
dry ridge
what i notice now when i use the command to buzz stepper Z1 is that it doesnt move it each time i buzz. i will try with a new wire and if that doesnt work i will try new motor
dry ridge
Also verify the z motor couplers are tight on the steppers and lead screws
ok will check on that to
spark apex
That could be from a loose coupler
dry ridge
That could be from a loose coupler
its a broken wire in the Z1 apparently. or bad contact. cause sometimes it works sometimes it doesnt. changed wire and now its seems to be fixed.
doing a z tilt now
spark apex
That would do it
dry ridge
That would do it
yes seems to be fixed now. corrected after 1 try.
thank you very much for the help
mighty violet
It goes by the position of the pivot points of Z which are the leadscrews.
Yes, I agree that it goes by the position of the pivot points of Z. However, that is not the lead screw location! That is the pivot point on top of the tank. The arm is rigid from the lead screw to the tank so the vertical lift is the same there as at the screw. But to calculate the geometry, you have to use the pivot point at the tank. Position your nozzle directly over the screw and that is the pivot point. Though it will sneak up on it using the screw locations and the error tolerance, the is not correct.
spark apex
Yes, I agree that it goes by the position of the pivot points of Z. However, th...
This is a dual z setup on a 5 pro, similar to the 5 plus. So it is the lead screw in this setup.
and the issue was fixed
