stark sluice
I have changed my E5Pro from a generic corexy setup to Mercury, I finished my build yesterday and the only difference from my previous setup is that I now use Orbiter 2 and bigger steppers on X-Y. (old setup had Microswiss DD)
I Cant seem to figure out why my prints starts like this. I have set the Rotation_distance in klipper.
pale goblet
Maybe because the Z offset is too high?
stark sluice
I have set and checked the offset, should be correct
crimson fulcrum
I would double check it doesn't seem right
also make sure that z moves how much you ask it to
confirm rotation distance for z
stark sluice
I have dobble checked and set the offset again, i also ran some cleaning filament through the hotend.
I have not changed anything from my previous setup, except bigger x y steppers and extruder. Same config on everything else from my generic core xy setup. rotation distance on z is unchanged and should be correct.
Just noticed the priming line, ???? First time I have seen this..
stark sluice
yes
crimson fulcrum
did you set zero_reference_position
stark sluice
no, I have not.
stark sluice
I have never set this before. I'm searching klipper for info now.
devout niche
I have set and checked the offset, should be correct
how exactly do you check it? paper test?
stark sluice
yes i have always used the paper test
Trying to set zero_ref but confused how I find what coordinates I should use and I get this error "Option 'zero_reference_position' is not valid in section 'bed_mesh'"
stark sluice
I have tried to set Z offset multiple times now and I still get wavy lines on the prime line. The print is sticking really good to the plate, but still looks the same as before.
crimson fulcrum
Trying to set zero_ref but confused how I find what coordinates I should use and...
it used to be zero_reference_index or something like that, update klipper, in my setup that position matches the center of the bed, pretty much where I also have my z_calibrate being done
I'll assume you don't have z calibration but center should work fine as well
stark sluice
I'm using a CR touch if this is what you mean with "z calibration". The klipper documentation sais to use "zero_reference_position" but this is ignored by my machine for some reason and I cant continue before I comment the out the line "zero_reference_position: 113.0, 125.0"
I'm having trouble accepting that this is a Z offset issue, should I try to change back to my old steppers or something ? As I have said: I have been running a generic CoreXY with no problem for a long time, and the config for this setup and Merc should be the same. The only changes is the Steppers on XY and extruder.
Also when I extrude filament with klipper everything sounds normal, but when i start printing the Orbiter makes a loud buzzing sound when extruding and retracting.
crimson fulcrum
by z calibration I mean this https://github.com/protoloft/klipper_z_calibration it's something else
Other than a z offset issue I can't really see any other possibility
you might want to try relative_reference_index if you're not on the latest klipper version that was the old (now deprecated) setting
can you also share a screenshot of your mesh?
stark sluice
Using OctoKlipper 0.3.9.5, Updated Feb 27
stark sluice
by z calibration I mean this https://github.com/protoloft/klipper_z_calibration ...
I cant find this plugin in Octoprint plugin search, maybe its time to change to fluiid or mainsail ?
crimson fulcrum
that is a klipper plugin not octoprint
cr touch is not very friendly with it
as you need an endstop where the nozzle and probe can reach
don't mess with it until you feel comfortable
stark sluice
Question: The Stepperonline steppers needed to be rewired for them to work on the SKR mini E3V3, can it be that my problem is the LDO extruder motor and I need to rewire it also ??
Even if my z offset has been to large before I never experienced jagged lines like this.
No, wiring is correct acording to BTT and LDO. 😄
devout niche
I still believe that the problem is you are printing too high, whatever the cause is. I would lower the z offset during a test print until the first layer looks correct 🤷♂️
stark sluice
I have no idea why the prime line is still jagged. But I have noticed that prime line is printed with close to correct Z offset but when it moves to the center to start the print it changes the offset and is printing to high.
I have set the offset "with paper test" so many times now but it will not stick and I set it so close that the paper is close to locked under the nozzle, it still prints to high.?
Can my CR Touch be the problem? or can it be a config/software issue.
devout niche
the probing looks good imho, i just think you'll need to print and adjust the offset some more 🤷♂️
stark sluice
https://www.klipper3d.org/Probe_Calibrate.html#calibrating-probe-z-offset
I think I figured it out, In my config my Z max was set to 300 and min -3. I changed my min to -5 and it seems to be working now.
But my Orbiter still makes a lot of noise when printing, but not when extruding only (with G-Code) is this normal ?
devout niche
can you post the sound?
stark sluice
I can try taking a video, but it sounds like a low ambulance siren 😄
https://youtu.be/O7UGWrKDrJI skip to 25sec
devout niche
no that's not normal ^^"
is it the extruder though? I think the scratching noise is only when printing the back and the right side
but no clue, never heard that before
stark sluice
ok, just made me wounder because there is no sound when just extruding.
Sending a second video, it sounds like something i loose inside the extruder.
https://youtu.be/kwoy8pyVj8g
