Ender 5 Plus - Mercury 1 (Classic) with Stealth Burner and New Enclosure Project

[twilit edge]

Which would help square it, yes?

[naive swan]

also i think the build area will be reduced to high 200s

[twilit edge]

I can see that, yeah

[naive swan]

correct

[twilit edge]

I think any answers are going to come with time and testing, tbh

But I like the concept a lot still

Definitely won't replace CoreXY, but it's not for every application

Right, I'm checking my brain out for the day. 🙂

[naive swan]

honestly once i understood the accordion i was seeing a benefit

[mild hinge]

I like the corexy

[naive swan]

same here, need to intall these parts on the V0

[mild hinge]

I got some goodies in today. More on Tuesday/Wednesday

[mild hinge]

voron

[shell wolf]

Yeah that won’t be a problem, works fine 👍

[mild hinge]

ok cool

[shell wolf]

Where’s your t0 man?!

[naive swan]

Pt 1000

[shell wolf]

is that the best hotend ever manufactured you’re holding ?!

[naive swan]

No

[shell wolf]

yea it is

it’s the red lizard

[naive swan]

It’s a red lizard

Just does the job

[shell wolf]

yeah that’s the best hotend ever built 😎

price vs performance wise 😂

[naive swan]

At least it has standoffs

Love how they don’t mention it

[shell wolf]

?

[twilit edge]

Standoffs? Oh my, what are those?!?

These are spacers

[twilit edge]

(I'm being silly about it)

[naive swan]

It stiffens the block

[twilit edge]

There's a patent on some form or fashion of the standoffs, i believe

[naive swan]

They don’t mention it so they can avoid patent issues….

[shell wolf]

What am I looking at

Those are bolts aren’t they

[naive swan]

They include the screws just don’t ship pre installed

[shell wolf]

wait that’s what those holes are for??

lol

[twilit edge]

Lol, right

[naive swan]

The install flat ones above the block

Best kept secret

[twilit edge]

So...best hot end for the money ever, then? 😄

[shell wolf]

Do you know the spec on those bolts?

[naive swan]

I had to go to the dark web to find this out

[shell wolf]

Wait how did you get the v6 adapter bolts out

[naive swan]

They include them in the box

[twilit edge]

Unscrew from underneath

two screws

[shell wolf]

u think I kept the box? 😂

[shell wolf]

I took the v6 adapter off

But the bolts hit the heartbreak

[twilit edge]

Oh. I left them in after.

[shell wolf]

so did I

[twilit edge]

lol

[naive swan]

They are m2.5 bhcs

[shell wolf]

length by any chance?

[naive swan]

One sec

[shell wolf]

I have like every size in front of me rn

[twilit edge]

Of 2.5? That's kinda impressive

I had to order some when I needed M2.5

[naive swan]

Sorry m2

Just checked

Also it’s shcs

[twilit edge]

Is that a standing desk?

If so, high five.

[naive swan]

That’s my other desk

Sorry side tracked

[twilit edge]

my b

[naive swan]

It’s m2x12 shcs

I’m not that organized

[shell wolf]

Nice

[naive swan]

That should be it

[shell wolf]

Don’t worry guys I’m not this organized either when I’m building my printers

This is at work

[naive swan]

I clean after I finish a project

[shell wolf]

And sometimes I tell people to go grab me a specific bolt so they need to be able to find it

Or else I’ll have to go get it

[naive swan]

So thinks are clean for like 3 days a year

[twilit edge]

I clean a square foot at a time.

Generally around my coffee mug.

[naive swan]

Lol

[shell wolf]

That’s possible?

Hoe do you finish a project

[naive swan]

Makes sense

[shell wolf]

Not sure I understand the phrase

[naive swan]

Using the agile approach

Make iterations

Lol

Avoid scope creep

[shell wolf]

Agile approach? You mean add more block chain?

[naive swan]

No

[shell wolf]

I can not avoid feature creep because I keep seeing cool mods

[naive swan]

I have a set feature set for my M1

After it’s done, I start loading into GitHub, then do printer 2

Then publish

[twilit edge]

This is how I finished my M1. I didn't look at the other stuff until I was almost done.

[shell wolf]

I’d have to finish the wiring to call my merc finished

[naive swan]

I almost got scoped creeped by can bus

[twilit edge]

Ditto

[naive swan]

But I am already wired up

[shell wolf]

can bus is goated

[naive swan]

agree, but everything is wired already

great future upgrade though and will do if i go tri-stepper

plus tap

that will be r1

[shell wolf]

I got 3 stepper z on my v0

If that tells you anything about my feature creep

[naive swan]

wth

[shell wolf]

yes 🙂

[naive swan]

ok time for https://github.com/christophmuellerorg/voron_0_kirigami_bed

damn i dont have the cable chain mount

[mild hinge]

Just finished putting in Dragon HF heatbreak and putting back together in merc 1.1

Now I need to print adxl mount for SB

[ruby lion]

@shell wolf that patent is just Cartesian ready for an awd like upgrade, don’t let the everything outside the chamber distract you.

[shell wolf]

Everything distracts me

Going off on build tangents is my speciality

[naive swan]

Very nice build!

That was a pain in the ass to install

[shell wolf]

It’s hello kitty themed but I haven’t figured out how to do a cutout of HK yet

Since it has continuous lines that would cut some parts of the logo from others

[naive swan]

What do you mean?

Like adding hello Kitty accents?

Do you have a sample?

[shell wolf]

Insane CAD skills at work

[naive swan]

Ok

Too much detail maybe, have you considered standalone printed or laser etched logos?

[shell wolf]

U think I got a laser ??

On the print head I have the logo just “engraved” but I wanted to be able to see what’s behind this part

[twilit edge]

Hey vengeful, so building your enclosure is a 10 pack of 500mm extrusions, printed ABS, and the plexiglass and coroplast panels?

[naive swan]

Pretty much, but also the 2 meters of din rails

[mild hinge]

just got some 10x15 drag cables in waiting to install them this week for the ender 5 plus ....slowly building merc kit

Just need a enclose/ skirt and ill be good

[naive swan]

Emergency board swap…..

[vocal terrace]

lick it

I've got pretty shocking idea

[naive swan]

I need this MCU

[mild hinge]

Working on the ender 5 plus

[naive swan]

Printing has started back up

[weak elbow]

Hi, is there an E5+ step file without enclosure but with Stealthburner available somewhere?

[shell wolf]

You can use the default merc 1.1 files with stealthburner 👍

[mental patio]

Hello there. One Question about hiwin rails.

[weak elbow]

thanks for the info, but what I'm talking about is the technical dimensions using the MO version

[mental patio]

Is this so correct because at the Backside there arent a rail

[shell wolf]

No, move it closer to the stepper tower

You need space for the tensioner to move

[mental patio]

Can you Show me your space? Thanks

[mental patio]

Is This better??

[twilit edge]

You probably want to drop by #1006498377938255922 for this. But those rails can pretty much be touching the stepper towers. For examples check some of the other build logs.

[naive swan]

Ok after a full 2 days of rewiring a v0 and printing parts to replace temporary pla parts I hit a big milestone. The top hat design works!

[shell wolf]

love that positive latching action

[twilit edge]

That is absolutely sick in all the ooey gooey good kind of ways.

[mild hinge]

Looks awesome. Rebuild my printer. Hopefully soon I can build the printer like that
Awesome build.

[vocal terrace]

@naive swan what rate of shrinking gotta account for abs?

I'mma model stuff and ur good with cad

[naive swan]

it depends on the object and dimension

[vocal terrace]

ok

once I have it finished possible for u to check over?

[naive swan]

assuming you are tuning your filament to a specific em(mine is 93%), you start setting certain thresholds. i.e.
3mm hole is 3.4mm
5mm hole is 5.2mm
two objects that need to be sandwiched together(1 inserts to other like a slot) i reduce the dimensions by .25mm

i dont have a specific rule, and all my designs are abs, no idea what they would do in pla

[twilit edge]

Some of that hole fun is the STL conversion and then reconversion to arcs.

I have similar rules and design for both PLA and ABS.

[naive swan]

holes also have different tricks like filets of .5 on the build plate and recessed holes have a chamfer of 45degress

also i use filets of 2mm as a minimum

[twilit edge]

Really? I don't go below 0.8, otherwise it's a chamfer

[naive swan]

on all non joining surfaces

[naive swan]

its a design choice

[twilit edge]

Ahhh, I see what you mean

[naive swan]

more for standardization

voron uses chamfers of 2mm alot but it causes problems on certain models

when i design things

so filets tend to just work

i tried 4mm chamfers on long vertical lines but it caused so many issues with holes being intersected that i gave up on that

[twilit edge]

Yeah, that's a pretty wide chamfer

I usually avoid larger than 3mm chamfers

big stuff = fillet

[naive swan]

sorry i meant 4mm filets

[twilit edge]

Ahhh

[naive swan]

Almost ready for install

[raven widget]

hmm nice

I am w8 this week have come.

[naive swan]

it was supposed to go in this weekend but my other printer decided to die on me

[raven widget]

how will you seal the space between hinges?

[naive swan]

Well my z couldn’t hold the weight,lol

[naive swan]

thin foam strip

[naive swan]

https://www.amazon.com/Weather-Stripping-Sliding-Speaker-Dashboard/dp/B07WGTHBSC/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=M26ID5V2AXZF&keywords=thin+foam+insulation+5mm&qid=1675797851&sprefix=thin+foam+insulation+5mm%2Caps%2C107&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzMUZUUkM5Q0QwU1dPJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODYxMzkyMUxOVFdUUURRSTQ2JmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA1MDc2NjdJT0gyNDlFSURSSlMmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl

something like this

[raven widget]

https://www.first4magnets.com/tape-strip-c85/magflex-19mm-wide-x-2-5mm-thick-magnetic-tape-foam-self-adhesive-p3832#ab_1_16|ps_2_2397

i try to make better seal with this tape 🙂 on doors

[naive swan]

Magnets don’t stick to aluminum

[raven widget]

they have to oposit slim steal tape to other side

[raven widget]

I have this one to side panels.

[naive swan]

probably to much work, since single sided foam does the same job (also the foam mounts to the frame not the panel)

[naive swan]

oh this is just for the doors

its already pretty close, you dont really need a seal

and if it is a concern then negative pressure can solve it

[naive swan]

sorry i missed this, sure

[vocal terrace]

lol ur goo

[weak elbow]

Hi, I can get an answer...Thanks

[vocal terrace]

It's not supported anymore.

[weak elbow]

functional thing and not supported

[vocal terrace]

yes. thats how stuff works that discontinued

[weak elbow]

just a guess, nothing more and a bad belief

[shell wolf]

new merc parts are smaller and stronger and also optimized for the belt path of the EVA toolhead

[vocal terrace]

yea and the cad isn't gonna be released for a while

[weak elbow]

golden old version

[naive swan]

not an e5+ but here you go

you will need to combine the 2

[weak elbow]

I don't understand why you are posting the old version here!

[raven widget]

?? M1Clasic is old version ,M1.1 doesnt support SB ,SB work but its not supported.

[weak elbow]

Don't use the new version, it didn't work for me. Thanks for the responses, no result

[naive swan]

@weak elbow, not sure what you want. I am building an M1 Classic.

[weak elbow]

You know very well where I'm going, hence the reaction. I was only interested in the exact dimensions of the holes for the gantry so that I could make a light version of the AL profile and possibly verify the belt guide in the SB version. I can find everything else.

[naive swan]

@weak elbow I don't owe you anything... read the thread

[shell wolf]

I think he’s just using the stock m1 x joints though ?

For gantry holes you just find the cad for whatever length rail you’re using ..

[vocal terrace]

dude is tryna get from a build log details ....

[naive swan]

I think he believes i have the step for the 1.1, which i dont have access to....

[vocal terrace]

no one does

unless ur cool

[raven widget]

Dont hide it from us , We know you redraw it from .stl over night 😄

[naive swan]

i could do it by taking the profiles and extruding, but that goes against the owners wishes

[mild hinge]

@naive swan Looks like the MIC 6

[naive swan]

It is, at least that’s what the Fabreeko site says

[mild hinge]

@naive swan Yes I have one too

[naive swan]

I am hoping to install it tomorrow

Since I have printed all the red parts I need for now

[mild hinge]

@naive swan yea im waiting on some part..Possiable to this week to print some of your STL's for you design this weekend

[shell wolf]

IF HE EVER RELEASES THEM

[mild hinge]

yep

[naive swan]

Weekend may be too soon

Remember every part has to be printed and fitted

[mild hinge]

@naive swan yep .. I'm waiting on nema 14 motor

[naive swan]

14?

[mild hinge]

@naive swan hopefully it will be here by thursday or friday

[naive swan]

I thought we used 17

[mild hinge]

@naive swan stealthburner

[naive swan]

Oh ok

[mild hinge]

@naive swan installed 3do nozzle cam today on the stealth very tight fit

[naive swan]

Nice, mine just shipped

[mild hinge]

@naive swan I tapped cable down as mounting it ...very thin cable

[naive swan]

Did you cave and buy the usb cable?

[mild hinge]

@naive swan yes

@naive swan also printed this https://www.printables.com/model/377843-grille-mod-of-3do-nozzle-camera-mount-for-voron-st#preview

[naive swan]

I talked to turtle and he said the connector looks like the bl touch connector

Can you confirm?

[mild hinge]

@naive swan yes

[naive swan]

Thank you!

[mild hinge]

@naive swan Welcome

[naive swan]

Awesome model, I am using it

With a slight design change

Oh yes they included the step!

[mild hinge]

@naive swan Left hand turn right off the cam a very very tight fit. I put tape on it so I wouldn't tear the ribbon cable right of the cam. I have seen a few ppl rip it right off

@naive swan this one is the one I printed . Sorry https://www.printables.com/model/381456-hex-remix-mod-of-3do-nozzle-camera-mount-for-voron/files Step file included also

@naive swan Didnt print the hex though

[naive swan]

I like the grill version

[mild hinge]

ok

[mild hinge]

@naive swan get your mic6 Installed?

[naive swan]

doing now, lol

[naive swan]

i had to get new 4mm flatheads....

[naive swan]

Test fit is good

[naive swan]

installing the Pom anti backlash nuts while i am it, hopefully they can handle the weight

[naive swan]

wow polishi3d really dropped the ball on the pom anti-backlash, they really should have threaded holes. installing the nut to the fastener was almost impossible since the spring is in the way

[naive swan]

time to wire to the ssr

[naive swan]

Ground connector solved

[vocal terrace]

https://beacon3d.com/

[shell wolf]

i have dat

[vocal terrace]

yee

[vocal terrace]

I have it now

stole it

[shell wolf]

that's where it went

let me know how it works being bent in half lol

[vocal terrace]

I shoved it up my but

kik

[shell wolf]

wait in that case I want it back

[vocal terrace]

lol

[twilit edge]

I appreciate that you are practicing good oral hygiene during assembly. 😉

[naive swan]

lol, yeah i just noticed that

[twilit edge]

Hey, good teeth are a blessing

I've had a root canal and it sucks.

[naive swan]

i need a trash can on this side of my lab

[twilit edge]

Hehe

It's a nice lab, tho

I have "the office with printers" and "the other office with printers". One is chaos and the other has a couch. 🤷‍♂️

[naive swan]

im looking to remove the carpet so i can get a desk top cnc in here and pull my laser back from the garage

the carpet is gym type/slash outdoor carpet

very stiff no padding

but i do have an external exhaust in here

also i can pipe compressed air in here

without the noise drawbacks

[twilit edge]

Wow, that's a nice setup

Sound dampening besides the carpet, though?

[naive swan]

Just need to throw the build plate on and crimp the bed therm on. Prints start today after another nap

[naive swan]

Not yet but the room does not share any walls with the rest of the house

[naive swan]

It’s alive and ready for tuning

damn i really need to learn how to edit videos😅

add it to the to do list

[shell wolf]

CAN YOU HOME SLOWER ?

[naive swan]

playing it safe since i am using sensorless......

lol

[shell wolf]

ahh true

[naive swan]

well the bed is working.....shit scares the crap out of me

1100w draw exactly

2 mins to warm up to 110c

[shell wolf]

Is that fluidd or skinned mainsail

[naive swan]

fluidd

its what i learned first

i had mainsail on in the beginning but gave up

damn this bed is way too heavy for my z steppers

it flys down as soon as power is removed from the motors

[raven widget]

new screws with TR8x2 ?

[naive swan]

i have integrated lead screw steppers TR8x8

[raven widget]

i just messure orginal TR from E+ ,its TR8x4

[naive swan]

yeah

i switched to 500mm leadscrew steppers for the distance i was missing once i mounted the steppers outside of the heated chamber. I was hoping the pom anti backlash nuts would help, they did not....

[raven widget]

rly ,good point , I have to check my order 😄

[naive swan]

Damn the connector is even smaller than I anticipated…..

It’s definitely not the same connector as the bl touch

[raven widget]

is there AI in camera to check line width ?

[naive swan]

That would be software

I hear someone is working on using it for first layer tuning

[raven widget]

I see it on bamboo, when something like that come to nozzle came I will definetlly install it.

[vocal terrace]

So buy the cable. Or if u have micro sold3rjng iron and are confident just solder the housing to another housing lol

[naive swan]

no its simpler than that

[naive swan]

it is JST SH https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2255800936167732.html?pdp_npi=2%40dis!USD!US %240.60!%240.60!!!!!%40210312cc16759762554607690ec548!10000014552165781!btf&_t=pvid%3A5c18d1f2-0a8b-460e-afaf-cd722e95983d&afTraceInfo=4001122482484__pc__pcBridgePPC__xxxxxx__1675976255&spm=a2g0o.ppclist.product.mainProduct&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US

it is exactly the same connector

5 pin is 7.35 on this datasheet i came back with the same number

just need to find it state side

https://www.amazon.com/Keszoox-Connector-Pre-Crimped-Kit，Total-Connectors/dp/B09F3TMG52/ref=sxin_15_pa_sp_search_thematic_sspa?content-id=amzn1.sym.f0c5ad8f-c1b9-48f0-8868-482b84b2d5eb%3Aamzn1.sym.f0c5ad8f-c1b9-48f0-8868-482b84b2d5eb&cv_ct_cx=5+pin+jst&keywords=5+pin+jst&pd_rd_i=B09F3TMG52&pd_rd_r=e3ff8746-69b4-482b-a0ad-58e62427d659&pd_rd_w=ebvzQ&pd_rd_wg=j2XVn&pf_rd_p=f0c5ad8f-c1b9-48f0-8868-482b84b2d5eb&pf_rd_r=H0QDE508DGM5HBG39N07&qid=1675976579&sr=1-5-a73d1c8c-2fd2-4f19-aa41-2df022bcb241-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExQlVSQ0VZUFZZSzFaJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODg0MDMwSU5ZSzI4V0ZXTktLJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAwMDQ2MDIzQjdTVTE2ODhWVE5QJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3Bfc2VhcmNoX3RoZW1hdGljJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

could be worse

looks like it is used in drones

awesome

[shell wolf]

Yeah I think I have some JST-SH around from a past project. At least it’s not JST-ZH

[twilit edge]

Is that harder to crimp or just harder to find?

Asking because ZH is 1.5mm

[naive swan]

i have zh

sh apperantly is too hard to crimp

it seems like a jst alternative to micro usb

either way i get them on saturday

so i will test then

by the way...screw level took over 20 attempts....

[naive swan]

both pid tunes are done

levels are good

z-offset is done

bed mesh is done

time to do filament tuning

[twilit edge]

You're zooming along

[naive swan]

i did have to rewire the extruder

but i am tuning pa right now

unfortunately i will have to stop after this test to go to an appointment

[naive swan]

Looks like my offset needs some work

[shell wolf]

live tune it!

[mild hinge]

yea my cam is dead

not sure why ..was working

I refuse to buy another

[naive swan]

nozzle cam?

[mild hinge]

yep

[naive swan]

that sucks, what happened?

[mild hinge]

dont know

[naive swan]

too hot?

and visible damage

?

[mild hinge]

cant see the connector too small

[naive swan]

ok

post pictures when you can

im calling it for the day

[mild hinge]

cant phone camera cant focus thatr small

[naive swan]

i spent too long on a script at work today.... im wiped(sorry I have only slept 3 hrs in the last 2 days)

[mild hinge]

not sure if its the cam of the usb cable

or*

[mild hinge]

that cam went to the garbage

[naive swan]

You should have let fabreeko know

[mild hinge]

I found with a microscope there was a bent wire i nthe connector

board is getting warm but no cam is detected

So im sure it has a short

i might order another one if they come out with a better connection that isn't so fragile

[vocal terrace]

contact who u ought with

[mild hinge]

Appears the usb cable is bad ..

Looking at it really close

[naive swan]

looks like i have a break inside my cable chain...

but i am up and printing

[shell wolf]

cable chain breaks wires

need to make an umbilical and then put that in the cable chain lol

[naive swan]

nah going for a can

i messed up because i put it in a sleave first

it only fails from x 0-100

rest of the plate is fine

[shell wolf]

lol

[naive swan]

I’ll just use the right side for now

[naive swan]

It’s chugging along

[naive swan]

looks like i am settling for a .89 EM

rewire the whole cable chain tomorrow...

[naive swan]

Looks like I am going umbilical while I resolve The wire break issues, my klicky wire has failed twice. Tried silicone then ptfe. I will use umbilical while I wait for revision 1

Right now my goal is to get this running so I can I finish the initial design testing

[ruby lion]

My brother has had 2 wires with internal breakage with his voron 2.4, from something I saw a few weeks ago this seems to be a bit more common than expected.

[naive swan]

turns out i used the wrong gauge on my fans and endstop 26 vs 24 and my dragchains are closed vs open which also meant that my id was 10x10 vs 10x11. So i have the new parts on the way and will be up and running by wednesday

[mental patio]

Hello there

One Question

How do you solve this?

Or how do you Set the endstop?

And which carriadge i need? Stls? I use the stealthburner

[naive swan]

On the stealth burner you have 3 options.

Install the x end stop on the stealth burner.

Use the stl for the x mount for m1 build

Use sensorless homing

[naive swan]

You can get that from here #1060069252637413386 message

That is the Merc 1 step file

[raven widget]

you will use voron skirt ?

[naive swan]

Yes but only after modifications

[raven widget]

I already start modife

[naive swan]

Up and running again

Time for the home stretch

It passed the test for loading the plate

[naive swan]

Started getting some warping, so panels are going on first

[naive swan]

2 more

Hopefully I can reprint these quickly

[naive swan]

I was able to sleep through the night and no warping….

[twilit edge]

Noice. That enclosure is amazing.

[naive swan]

it will be better once i finish printing everything

[twilit edge]

Soon(TM)

I empathize. Just finished printing six 0.25lb struts for my print desk. 8" long on a 235x235 bed... I'm very relieved I don't have to wake up and check for warping anymore.

(Now I have to install them, though...)

[naive swan]

i would say my only problem with this printer is going to be the bed drops like a brick once the motors turn off

[twilit edge]

What lead screws are you using?

[naive swan]

tr8x8

r1 is going to be fun

its basically a drop in solution(slight modification needed on the front steppers)

[twilit edge]

Is that a stock bed, then?

[naive swan]

i have a mic6 bed with mains

its too heavy

[twilit edge]

I see what you mean. 😦

Four starts on each lead screw is a lot of outlet for potential energy.

[shell wolf]

Just put some red loctite on your Pom nuts

[naive swan]

the good news is because the e5+ uses a 2040 up front i can upgrade the trident motion system to mgn12h without changing the extrusions or compromising the enclosure(due to clearance issues)

uses mgn9

[shell wolf]

I didn’t know the trident used mgn12s until after I had printed most of my parts lol

I should check the BOM better when doing parts bin builds

[naive swan]

do you mean mgn9?

[shell wolf]

Yes

[naive swan]

oh ok

[shell wolf]

I have extra 12s and just assumed it used those

[naive swan]

since they enclose it out the gate it would not clear the panels

with an mgn12

[shell wolf]

Yeah

[naive swan]

put a 2040 on the front corners and you solve that issue

[shell wolf]

I’m planning on getting some steel sheet laser cut to space the panels and make the frame ultra rigid

[naive swan]

ok, i had to deal with it on my gantry and just did some build out

[shell wolf]

thick foam tape would work too probably too

[shell wolf]

Might go belted z with my trident tho

[naive swan]

foam wont work

you need almost 6mm of clearance

its like 4.75 or something

[shell wolf]

does it really stick that far off? Maybe my calipers are off lol

[naive swan]

but 1 mm and change to be safe

it does on the m1 layout

[shell wolf]

How wide is an Mgn12 carriage?

[naive swan]

and m1.1 for that matter

[shell wolf]

Not at a pc rn or is just check my cad

[twilit edge]

It's over 20mm for sure. Like 26?

Since the mount pattern is 20x20, it has to be

[naive swan]

27mm

[shell wolf]

Ah so 3.5 either side

Interesting

Might have to weld my own steel spacer panels, SCS might fry my wallet trying to get 1/4 panel

[naive swan]

i checked one i had laying around.....27.5

mileage will vary apperantly

[shell wolf]

Guess I’m gonna have to fire up fusion

[naive swan]

maybe i went overboard with the 6mm build out but i guess i was trying to be safe when i test fit and designed my spacers

[shell wolf]

that’s probably the easiest part of the whole build to make parametric tho

any idea on release ??!!

[naive swan]

soon

parts are in the oven for the final test print

printing as we speak

[shell wolf]

assume you’re gonna release the cad right?

[naive swan]

yes

some clean up is needed

[shell wolf]

good man

[twilit edge]

I'm excited about that latch.

[naive swan]

and one section is not done

[shell wolf]

do I look like someone who uses finished products

[naive swan]

that is about to be fully tested 🤞

[shell wolf]

If it’s not a WIP experimental design I don’t want it

[naive swan]

yes

[twilit edge]

I mean, we're all using cartoon avatars, lol

[naive swan]

true

lol

[twilit edge]

Okay, anime minus me, the oddball.

👋

[naive swan]

isn't Doug Japanese?

[shell wolf]

ngl I thought that was that bald kids dad

[twilit edge]

lol

[shell wolf]

Calliou

[naive swan]

lol

[shell wolf]

who is it 😂😂

[twilit edge]

Doug Funnie, lol. 90s cartoon character on Nickelodeon.

I had to look up Calliou, though

[shell wolf]

before my time 😔

[naive swan]

wow

i feel old now

[twilit edge]

Yeah, I'm a dino. Not even a late stage one, like a T-Rex.

Grandpa Jon

[shell wolf]

Wasn’t alive in the 90s

[twilit edge]

faints

[naive swan]

ngl i am still laughing about Calliou's Dad

[twilit edge]

You missed an entire era of half-baked and "it'll do" clothing. Right up your engineering style alley! 😛

The whole clothing era was "ripped? GOOD."

Oh no, he gone.

[naive swan]

alright this was a good break, i need to finish this SQL for work

[shell wolf]

sql sucks use a real database

txt file

[naive swan]

sql is life

the language

database doesnt matter

teradata, oracle, mysql, etc

[naive swan]

The latch works

Time to continue the print

[shell wolf]

is that a stock ender 5 to the right

[naive swan]

stock ender 5+

[twilit edge]

I'm so fascinated by those latches. Although the tensioner design is a very close second.

My enclosure latches are just basic swing latches with a block to stop them from swinging too far.

[raven widget]

i wasnt thinking about this solution but maybe it was much better choise as hydra, just becouse part supply.

[mild hinge]

@naive swan Looking awesome

[naive swan]

yeah hydra has its parts complications

[naive swan]

after some thought on this i may change it at a later revision

[twilit edge]

Latch or tensioner?

[naive swan]

the top lid

im thinking the lid should just be the 2020 extrusions and the acrylic panel

have it hinge independently

im having to make a ton of compromises to attach the top hat side panels

I’m getting severe under extrusion

Cht nozzle time

Quick install

Also going to try some non Capricorn

I’m worried that may be part of my problem

[naive swan]

since i was already under the hood i retightned the belts

very nice sensorless homing now

found the reason for the under extrusion was the flathead screw on the cw2 was pushed out. so my rotation distance is good now

now for klippy z offset tuning, check my EM and pressure advance

[naive swan]

Over tightened the belts

[vocal terrace]

not gates belts?

[naive swan]

meh, thats not that big of a deal

[twilit edge]

Did this last week. Wondered why I kept getting worse and worse layer shifting...

[naive swan]

unfortunately its a fine line to find a good medium. it prints just fine when the belts feel loose. i think its because the belts are huge.

[twilit edge]

That would make a great deal of sense

[naive swan]

one thing i am really regretting is sensorless homing. i did some sensitivity tuning on it again. so i hope that helps

[vocal terrace]

I hut the pins off my steppers sadly

[vocal terrace]

Gates belts are pog

[naive swan]

based on the belts being this big i am not seeing them being a must have. I have gates on everything else.

[twilit edge]

Really? That's unfortunate. Both axes?

I was considering going to sensorless. I have a friend who loves it.

[naive swan]

Just the y. after some testing i find that you need a flat surface to hit when zeroing.

[twilit edge]

Re-use the X bumper design?

Oh, the bracket

[naive swan]

and you also needed to slow down, enough that its unbearable

[twilit edge]

Ohhhh no

Across a big bed that's a problem

[naive swan]

im just putting in the switches

on the V0 its fine but on 370x360 its rough

especially since my print start macro homes 3 times

[naive swan]

Ready to start the rear panel and reprint the rear stepper mounts

They have to be reprinted since I added a lot of heat insert holes and some dimensions needed to be tweaked

Also the top hat front panel clips will be reprinted since my last accent color run was on my V0 before it blew up

great 16hrs on the rear steppers

282grams

[naive swan]

No warping! Hopefully I’m not jinxing myself….

i set my em to 95

looks like its going to be 93

i will do a quick calibration later

[mild hinge]

look awesome

[naive swan]

little tweeks today, so far i am impressed with the performance. My next goal is to get the endstops installed and get the chamber thermistor installed. also only one gap at the back of the top hat

[mild hinge]

happy printing ...looks good

[naive swan]

Very close to done enclosing

Had to make a change to the hinge

All good though

[naive swan]

rear top hat panel mounts are done and printing now!

i will be fully enclosed as of tomorrow

Z Drag chain and custom sexbolt mounts and bed Wagu mounts next

[twilit edge]

Yow. Looking good.

[naive swan]

Fully enclosed!

[raven widget]

I dont expect this solution. how to solve gap between hings. 👍

[naive swan]

the gap is small, but foam strip will do the trick

[naive swan]

come on chamber temp solution work

[naive swan]

holding at 47c Chamber Temp

[mild hinge]

@naive swan how did you get the arrows on klipper to turn red ..like it mine are orange

[naive swan]

you should be able to change it here

[mild hinge]

I have the Zero G theme installed but don't have the same settings to change it

Aww found it

[naive swan]

Any idea why I am getting under extrusion after I have been running for more than 4 hrs?

Only happens on long flat prints

Short prints are fine

My em and first layer are perfect

Just having flow issues

I guess it could be worse

Just very annoying with all the tuning that went into this

[naive swan]

time to properly mount the wagus

for the bed

[naive plaza]

Hey @naive swan. Your work is beautiful man! Any plans to release your files to the wild?

[naive swan]

So the cable chain is shredding my wire

2 can bus solutions on the way

Let’s hope my work around works

[twilit edge]

Eek. Yeah, I wondered about the PET in the cable chain. I'd never seen it before.

(Thought it looked cool, too. Womp womp. 😦 )

[naive swan]

hopefully this works

[mild hinge]

I just got the sb2040 can bus mounted in the sb

found a modified door for the 3do nozzle cam control for sb

https://www.printables.com/model/402744-stealthburner-toolhead-board-cover-with-integrated

[naive swan]

yep i ordered the sb 2040 and the ebb36 just in case

[mild hinge]

cool

[naive swan]

I almost ordered this one but i saw it had some design issues
https://biqu.equipment/en-de/products/bigtreetech-ebb-sb2209-can-v1-0?_pos=1&_psq=can&_ss=e&_v=1.0&variant=40214282731618

i went with the fly sb2040

[shell wolf]

I have the mellow version and the btt version

Haven’t installed the btt since I don’t feel like crimping those wires lol

[naive swan]

what connector is it?

i shied away once i saw they were tiny, dont want another nozzle cam situation

[mild hinge]

I have the mellow version

[mild hinge]

@naive swan I was looking closure at you ender 5 plus ....Do you have the STl's for the feet only. I just got some LDO motors for the dual z's and I need to raise the printer ?

[raven widget]

Hi Mike, on this photohttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1060069252637413386/1077716600347697172/IMG_4023.jpg you can see standart Trident feets

[shell wolf]

Yep, those are stock trident feet. The stock ZeroG feet would work exactly the same 👍

The 38mm version that is

[mild hinge]

Thanks

[raven widget]

I use rubber feets with suction cap 🙂

[mild hinge]

Very cool ...zero g trident feet stl would be cool

I'll look it up

Thanks

[deep vine]

What make is this?

[naive swan]

that is a fabreeko bed

[deep vine]

Awsome cheers, your build looks absolutely fantastic by the way. Well done! You have really inspired me to do such a build, I’ll looking into it all right now, did you say you had listed the files of your parts anywhere?

[naive swan]

i am working on the bom right now, but i have been bogged down by issues on the extruder

the files are almost ready for release

right now all i can say is plan for canbus from the outset

[deep vine]

Okay that cool, looking forward to seeing the BOM, but I hope you fix your extruder issues. What are the issues? And is that why your trying to use can bus?

[naive swan]

The cable chain is too tight with this many wires. You eventually get wire failures. In my case I am getting a partial wire failure

[deep vine]

Ahh I see, so the can bus will decrease amount of wires.
I have thought about doing this, but I’m using the Eva 3 with a 4028 fan and need 12 volts, also I have a EZ mini probe.
I read you got the Btt can bus, have you installed it yet?

[naive swan]

Well the mechanical limit switch is done

[naive swan]

no install yet, i have a ebb36+btt utoc and the flysb2040+mellow utoc on the way from china

i also have an ebb36 and the fystec utoc coming from amazon coming in tomorrow

no idea if the fystec utoc will be fine but we will see

[deep vine]

Wow so your going to be doing some testing then. You’ve really got you work cut out 🙂 good job with all you work so far, I’m going to use your z endstop bracket to 😄

[naive swan]

it lines up perfectly, but i have no idea why its not being recognized by my skr2....must be all these klicky configs

[deep vine]

Can’t wait to start building your enclosure also, printing abs on the big plate is my dream 😉

Have you got the pull up resistor set?

[naive swan]

i wanted to finish printing all the parts and get some hours in, but the cable chain is a huge design flaw for the cad and stl drop

[naive swan]

no its on an endstop pin though

[deep vine]

My endstop pin in config has a pull up resistor

Also i I won’t be using a cable chain like yours, i have the Eva 3 mod with the linear rail on top of the gantry

[naive swan]

its klicky, i just migrated my x and y to the same pins and they work fine

[naive swan]

yeah i am making some tweeks for the pc6 glands on the enclosure and toolhead

[deep vine]

Okay, so it must not need a pull up. In that case do you know if you have a diag pin related to that endstop pin?

[naive swan]

So they can mount to the rear center plate along with reverse Bowden and the chamber thermistor

[naive swan]

i do not, especially on the z

i was using sensorless on x and y for some time

[deep vine]

Test the z endstop In your y endstop and run the m119 command to check operation

[naive swan]

i forgot this

[deep vine]

😅

[naive swan]

[homing_override]
axes: z
set_position_z: 0
gcode:
G90
G0 Z5 F600
G28 X Y

XY Location of the Z Endstop Switch

Update X and Y to your values (such as X157, Y305) after going through

Z Endstop Pin Location Definition step.

G0 X-10 Y-10 F3600

G28 Z
G0 Z10 F1800

damn klicky does it for you but you need this as well i guess?

[deep vine]

Ohh it wasn’t the hardware then

[naive swan]

not sure why it affects the endstop recognition

[deep vine]

I see your running the old mounts x, y stepper mounts.. do you still have the files?
I’m using the new style and have broke two already, they are built with too little material

[naive swan]

well they are all custom

x is from the m1, m1.1 xmounts will not work with the top mount rail(maybe)

the rear steppers experimental(to say the least)

and built into the enclosure

[naive swan]

i found out what the problem is, the stepper driver jumpers disable the endstop pins on the board

[twilit edge]

[dawning look]

[naive swan]

lol, also i think i found my underextrusion issue... im overcooking the abs+ and clogging the nozzle

[twilit edge]

Ouch. 😦 What brand ABS+?

[naive swan]

esun.... ijust realized it happens everytime i switch to fire engine red

[twilit edge]

Do you use cleaning filament ever?

[naive swan]

lol no

i have never needed it......

[twilit edge]

It's worth a try. Particularly when switching filament types.

[naive swan]

I blame esun for this

im transitioning to polylite already

[twilit edge]

I'm still printing through the 7kg I got for $100 from Atomic. Short roll sales!

But after that, yeah, everyone but PolyMaker that's quality is just too expensive.

[naive swan]

esun has too many deals to walk away but im done with them

[raven widget]

I use DevilDesign ,I already try some eSun it wasnt best choice what have done

[twilit edge]

I've never been too impressed with the stuff I've used from them.

I mean, the prices also hooked me a few times, too.

[naive swan]

i never had wrapping problems until i started using it outside of my V0, that was all i needed to drop them

[raven widget]

Last time safe my ,installed Tap I was running 0.6 lower on first layer

[naive swan]

yeah i installed mech so i have double protection

i have a beacon on the way so there is also a reason to just go ahead and change now

also my hotend block was backwards....

[naive swan]

I am screwed

i am still getting random under extrusion

[raven widget]

meybe some issue with skiping steps ?

[tmc2209 extruder]
uart_pin: PE1
interpolate: False
run_current: 0.35
sense_resistor: 0.110
stealthchop_threshold: 0

I have moon pancake

[naive swan]

i have a moon as well

[tmc2208 extruder]
uart_pin: PC6
interpolate: true
run_current: 0.7
hold_current: 0.4
sense_resistor: 0.110
stealthchop_threshold: 0

switching to false makes it worse

is it possible that i killed my extruder?

[raven widget]

holdcurrent make it warmer ,its recomanded dont use if I am right

[naive swan]

to much current

[naive swan]

i agree

the problem gets worse the longer i run it

so heat could be it

[raven widget]

reasembly CW2

its solved my issue

[naive swan]

cw2 was good, i took it apart to check

twice

new hardware as well

i have another set as well and a asa cw2 ready as well

[raven widget]

how i go lower with run current it was able to run longer but i have reasembly it

[naive swan]

how so?

i have a band new ldo and off brand that i am tempted to install right now just to eliminate that possibility

[raven widget]

you can check wiring if you think you over heat it.

[naive swan]

wiring is my go to but now i dont know

[raven widget]

i was checking it realy simple 🙂 i just take A loop on stepper ,then B loop = if R same i try same on connector on driver side with connected motor.

[naive swan]

you mean continuity check, yes i did that

its fine but my issue is intermittent

[naive swan]

I think I figured it out

It goes away if I go slow

The carriage block is melted

The mount

I have some backups

It melted because the block and heater were at the back

[naive swan]

This was the problem

[twilit edge]

ASA time?

[ruby lion]

What hotend are you using? Seems like the heat break isn’t working?

[deep vine]

Is asa really better than abs+?
Would you say it is any easier to print?

[shell wolf]

I find it easier to print, and yes it’s better for 3d printer parts

[twilit edge]

BBL is correct. ASA has a higher heat deflection temperature, so it might not have deformed as Vengeful's part did. It's also easier to print, as I'm discovering.

[deep vine]

Okay, well that’s interesting, what brand do you guys find to be good quality?

[twilit edge]

I'm printing some off-brand US distributor. It's not that great. PolyMaker has ASA and their quality is generally good all around. It's also more affordable than some of the other equally good brands that sell ASA.

[shell wolf]

I like Polymaker atm, missing a few colors

[twilit edge]

Yeah, wish they had some more variety in the ABS/ASA department. Atomic has me covered there for ABS.

[shell wolf]

ASA is more grease / oil resistant too, which I think included the various off gasses that are a byproduct of printing ASA/ABS

I like inland for my ABS atm

[twilit edge]

Best ABS I have ever printed is 3D-Fuel. It's an ABS+, but man was that fun to print. Soooo expensive, though.

[mild hinge]

I use asa for all printer parts

@naive swan printer looking awesome

[naive swan]

thanks

Recap time:
The melted SB + klicky mount was caused by my material selection and the fact that i mounted the heater block and heater towards the back --- should have been towards the front.

The overtightened belts exacerbated the issue causing the mount to warp during usage and eventually giving out when one of the belts overstretched.

Next problem i caused was; i only replaced one belt since the other seemed fine. Even though, i measured both belts for length; there was no guarantee they would stretch evenly.

This explains why i am only getting this issue on some diagonals and at high speeds

Morale of the story: experience matters.....

I spent this entire time chasing a new cable break which was previously caused by not installing the chains in the unlocked position. i changed that after the rewire.

still going can bus, dont get me wrong. However they will run through the chain along with the usb cables for the nozzle cam and the beacon

[mild hinge]

@naive swan I'll be installing sb2040 with 3do nozzle cam usb in a sleeve via chains hopefully this weekend. Found a 3do nozzle cam sb door on printables to hold the external 3do nozzle cam.

[naive swan]

yeah i was hoping to use my sb2040 as well but it uses an pcb where the 3do pcb mounts so for this printer i will just go with the ebb36

[mild hinge]

@naive swan https://www.printables.com/model/402744-stealthburner-toolhead-board-cover-with-integrated#:~:text=Integrated 3DO Nozzle-,Camera,-PCB Mount

Might work with the sb2040

[naive swan]

ah

i remember this

[naive swan]

i think that is BTT version of of the sb2040

the one that uses the same connectors as the 3do cam

[naive swan]

New belt time

[naive swan]

I am ready, utoc gets here in the morning

Going with option 2 since I want to keep my chains

Option one is backup if everything goes to shit

[mild hinge]

Option 2

[deep vine]

What thickness coroplast and clear sheet did you use?

[naive swan]

coroplast was 4mm and acrylic is ~2.5mm

[deep vine]

Cheers, i couldn’t find any 4 mm coroplast here, I’ll get 2mm and glue 2 pieces together

[naive swan]

i got mine from Michaels(arts and crafts store)

[naive swan]

Feels like this is going to be a chore

[deep vine]

No you’ll be fine, it will be worth it when it’s done

[mild hinge]

acm panels or abs panels ? which better ?

[naive swan]

honestly neither, coroplast provides more insulation at 1/10th of the price

for looks, black acrylic, hands down

acm is just more rigid

[mild hinge]

@naive swan ok I was looking at options

[naive swan]

understand, i just realized how much better coroplast was when i started this build

[mild hinge]

yea ...need a set for ender 5 plus and voron 2.4r2

[naive swan]

also very easy to work

its my go to material for flat surfaces now

[mild hinge]

yea

[naive swan]

back panel corplast, or acm. Sides arcylic if see through, other wise coroplast then acm in that order

basically acm is thinner and about as capable or less when it comes to heat

also its basically a heatsink

[mild hinge]

yea

i mosly print in asa

[naive swan]

if exterior temps are cold then you will see worse performace from acm

[mild hinge]

just tired of the large creality tent

its a bit drafty in the printer room

[naive swan]

yeah the change in temp is what is the problem with warping

[mild hinge]

yep

[naive swan]

card board works as well

[mild hinge]

I dont have that problem right now but only printing small parts

[naive swan]

yep, its when your z goes over 5mm that you start noticing problem

[mild hinge]

yea I watc hthe z all the time

watch*

running z tilt on klipper also

[naive swan]

best way to tell if you have a problem with warping is when you start getting loose bits of filament all over your build plate

[mild hinge]

yea

dont have that yet

[naive swan]

before i fully enclosed i would see it after 15-20mm

sometimes the part looks fine the you check the dimensions and you notice the height is off

sometimes by a little bit other by a lot depends on the amount of stuff on the build plate

[mild hinge]

true

only print 1 small part at a time

[naive swan]

yep

i went a long time with the V0 and it was perfect for that

[mild hinge]

v0 are nice

[naive swan]

i get my v0.2 upgrade parts soon

[mild hinge]

nice

yea your ender 5 plus looks really sharp

I need to find the legs that you are using

I need to raise the ender 5 plus

i like to raise it since i have the ldo 48mm motors

[naive swan]

oh thats easy

one sec

[mild hinge]

k

[naive swan]

https://github.com/VoronDesign/Voron-Trident/tree/VTr1/STLs/Skirt

corner a x2

corner b x2

[mild hinge]

correct

I see i was in the wrong github looking

[naive swan]

plus the corner base plates a+b

@raven widget did the resize on the skirts as well

[mild hinge]

nice

I see the 350 bed skirt

[naive swan]

its bigger

he did a great job

i just need to do the relogo

[mild hinge]

zero g logo ?

[naive swan]

yes

[mild hinge]

I see the center logo

voron

[naive swan]

Dahulix version on the left original 350mm on the right

[mild hinge]

yea big space o nthe right

[naive swan]

yep he did a great job on the splice

[mild hinge]

yea

i take it thats the skirt he redid in the 350 folder

or al lthe folders

[naive swan]

he redid the 350mm skirts

[mild hinge]

awesome

[naive swan]

i just havent loaded them into the model

[mild hinge]

gotcha

I did see the skirt you have on yours looks good

3.5 hours for the feet not bad atr all for all 4

Well work comes early..be back on tomorrow Im sure

[naive swan]

ok enough messing around

[naive swan]

ucan is is connected and configured
ebb36 has firmware loaded

just need to wire the toolhead and run my 4 wires

[twilit edge]

Used CANBUS before?

[mild hinge]

I have a sb2040 But might get the BTT version

New Zero G design. Nice

Make it a Dual color design

[mild hinge]

@naive swan stl ? I'll print it ounce I get the trident legs printed

@naive swan of course if you don't care to share it !!!!

[naive swan]

no

[twilit edge]

good luck, but it's worth it

[naive swan]

it has been a lot of info to go through but it has been somewhat easy... just redoing the tool head sucks

[twilit edge]

Ick, yeah

[naive swan]

lol i am working on it

[twilit edge]

Hey, qq to those around...do microswitches use M2 or M2.5? I think it's M2 self tapping, right?

Dunno why I just asked this in a build log, but here I am.

[raven widget]

ju can over drill them with 3mm drill or make M3 thread

[twilit edge]

@raven widget normally I'd go for that. I'm actually trying to go for small screws so save space here, though.

Just don't know which, heh

[raven widget]

you want go with D2F-01F ?

[twilit edge]

nope, just regular limit switch microswitch

it looks M2 here

[raven widget]

bigger snap on have 3mm hole

[naive swan]

@twilit edge its M2, i bought a bag of hex socket M2x10 self tapping and they are very useful

hands down a good surplus item to have

[twilit edge]

Might be stealing them off of some extra limit switches I have. bought a couple different styles in bulk.

[naive swan]

they are good for joining printed pieces together

[twilit edge]

Ohhhh...and small so not visible

[naive swan]

i put them on my dogs airtag holder

also used alot for din rail mounts

since those wear or are easy to break. that way you only reprint the clip and not the hole mount

make sure you get them in allen not phillips or something else

i havent seen any torx but the use cases for that are minimal

[raven widget]

https://www.tme.eu/sk/details/b1.8x5_bn13265/vruty/bossard/3205122/

I use this for some PCBs they was great in plastic 🙂

[naive swan]

yeah but SHCS style

thats BHCS style

[shell wolf]

buttons heads are for chumps

brought to you by the socket head gang

[naive swan]

lol button head have there uses

and cost less

[raven widget]

that is valve head

button head

😄

[naive swan]

BHCS = less depth SHCS = Less width

[shell wolf]

if I need less depth I’m countersinking that bitch and it’s gonna be nice and flush

nothing is more satisfying than a perfectly counter sunk flat head fastener

[shell wolf]

I call this fastener a flanged button head

[naive swan]

if your part is thick enough, i guess there is always FHCS. But i only ever find SS not black steel

[raven widget]

this one isnt flanged but i know what you mean.

[naive swan]

These are nice but rare

added a regular FHCS for comparison

[twilit edge]

I'll confess...I don't like those super low profile screws.

I got some and they don't conceal well.

[raven widget]

Today I found out that the supplier sent my heated bed Mic6 2 days ago, he played me for 2 months that it is on the way.

[deep vine]

@naive swan how is the can bus? did you get the btt installed?

and are you intending on using a PT temp sensor instead of the normal NTC

[naive swan]

i have a pt but for now i am leaving the ntc100k on

almost done just need to solder extensions

[deep vine]

i was reading the PT is more accurate, im thinking of ordering can bus since you twisted my arm 😉

[naive swan]

lol

they cost about $20 on amazon

[deep vine]

ill have to see if i have any of my student loan left over this month lol

but do i need the U2C board aswell? how does it actually all connect, i presume the usb c and then a 24v supply

[naive swan]

i got the fysech one in the meantime, it was preloaded, so that was good

its like $20 on amazon

cheaper from ali

[vocal terrace]

u dont need the utoc too

[naive swan]

just in case @vocal terrace with the amount of s#$% that has gone wrong

im running an skr2 so i think i do need it

[vocal terrace]

?

oh dont

that can't really do proper canbus

I have usb - canbus adapter which is better

[naive swan]

thats a utoc is it not?

[vocal terrace]

dont not needed

PT1000 is ok without max31865 too. it just makes its temp have correct degree start

[vocal terrace]

its not

its proper canbus

[naive swan]

U2C=UTOC=UCan?

[vocal terrace]

u should get a octopus or spdier for canbus

[naive swan]

sure

[vocal terrace]

The board doesn't have the proper setup conpared to those noards for canbus

it will work but like the other boards were designed with it as a principe

[naive swan]

agree, but that is fine

[vocal terrace]

don't use the usb most boaerds u can get will havethe can wire

[naive swan]

i have can support on 1 board only and im not buying 3 more boards

[vocal terrace]

lol

[naive swan]

it also means that 5 stepper boards can then support 6 steppers

[vocal terrace]

I'm gonna be setting up my UTC on my V2.4 when it finally comes in. BTT didn't put me on preorder. but now its a preorder

so stupid

[vocal terrace]

Yea I thought that initially but didn;'t mind the etra board

Hold up did u modify the turtle files for PG7 wire strain?

[naive swan]

for me it just made sense since it allows me to keep these older 5 stepper boards in service

[vocal terrace]

fyi hartk has CW2 mount

[vocal terrace]

yea. I just convert mine to E3

[naive swan]

i have 2 mount options

[vocal terrace]

welp hartk has a M12 is the connector its cool

[naive swan]

pg7 or cable chain

[vocal terrace]

I'm just using zipies for my eva

don't allow cable chain thats stupid

like really stupid

pg7 < cable chain weight

@shell wolf I think u would like

I regret getting siler.

they did a shit machining job looks like theres some spots

my SB2240 I'mma try opr make a canbus mount for pg7

[deep vine]

is an all metal orbiter?

[vocal terrace]

I didn't realize how choncy after

[vocal terrace]

bruh. its a vzz-hextrudort

[deep vine]

ohh

[vocal terrace]

mine ways less

L